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May 9, 2025 • 22 mins

Lachlan Giles is hosting the Austrailasia trials at his home at Absolute MMA to figure out his -99 and +99 grapplers. This will be streamed on the bteam YouTube channel and should be an absolute spectacle to watch. JT comes in with some insider information that may change the narrative. The boys go over the crazy structure of the tournament, the favorites, the dark horses, and talk about who they think will prevail.
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
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(00:28):
The Giles trials predictions,insights it's all happening.
Ladies and gentlemen, I was downin Melbourne on the weekend
training with Lachlan Giles.
I've seen the setup, I havesome insight and I want to share
it with you.
If you're excited for thisbecause I know I am Team

(00:50):
Australia is going to be banging.
Yeah, I'm pumped for this.
Can you just clarify GilesTrials is Lachy Giles' team for
CJI correct For the CJI?
So they've set up athree-quarter pit at the gym.
They will be streaming it onthe B-Team YouTube channel, so
you all need to get up on that.
It's a monster and this is whythey are doing a 16-man

(01:15):
selection for a free spot in thekind of top six, right?
So that's tough.
Which weight category is thisfor?
So here's the, the interestingthing, which a lot of people
don't know, and I'll share thismore openly.
Or maybe I didn't understand itand maybe this you can benefit
from my ignorance and mylearning.

(01:35):
They are looking for someoneover 99 and someone under 99,
right, right and.
But here's the thing australiahas a few big folks out there,
but also there's a bunch of bigfolks who are not participating
in these trials.
So we've got some big men andthen we've got some medium to

(01:56):
large men and it's really whogets the most submissions.
This is what it's all about.
There's no winning by points.
Really.
I mean, you, you couldpotentially do that, but if
you're not submitting people,you're not getting picked.
Yeah, it's a round-robin event,is it?
Yeah, and they've said openlywe're looking at most subs win,
most subs wins the spot.
That's exciting, and so there'ssome really great people in

(02:19):
there.
So I don't really want to countanyone out, but there's some
people in there who are knownfor winning, but not via
submission, yeah.
So I was excited.
I was down in melbourne, I wentdown for the leg lock camp and
straight away I walk into thegym and I see kit dale just
going to town on people and he'slooking lean and mean.
It's the first time ever thatI've been heavier than kit in my

(02:40):
life, I think.
Oh, wow he's.
He's like a just.
I think he's about 89 kilos.
Battle of the heavy short man.
The heavy short man, the broadtorso.
My legs might actually belonger than Kit's.
Holy shit, he's got the killermustache.
He does have a very kind of.
He has a very unique body shapein that way Huge torso, massive
, quite, like the Russian tanksatellite yeah, similar,

(03:04):
actually.
Good analogy there.
And kit is a phenomenalcompetitor.
I think this is the thingpeople forgotten about kit.
He performed so well.
When it comes to competition,he does exceptionally well, but
he's not renowned as a finisher.
It doesn't mean he can't submitpeople Right.
And so here's the thing We'vegot a bunch of people coming
into this 16 man, and so there'sbets going on.
Right now People are like Ithink it's what is it?

(03:27):
Shuffle or whatever, like somerandom betting website is
actually taking bets on thisstuff.
It's pretty wild to me.
But look, tito, john Carl,which brings us to our newest
sponsor of the show.
If you're looking to just losesome money, so wait.
So in this 16 man division,though, it's both under 99 and
over 99.

(03:47):
Yeah, right, because I, I thinkand this is not, this wasn't
explicitly told to me they mightbe able to shuffle folks around
once they've worked out who theteam is.
For example, let's say, theyget someone who's maybe not as
big.
They could get them to go under90, right, and they could get

(04:09):
um kit, we need you to fuck ashitload of cheeseburgers.
Get them to go up.
Yeah, right, they're lookingfor attacks and skills because
they need one representative ateach body, at each.
That's right, right, right,right, that's right.
So you know Anton Momenko.
He's a, he's a beast.
You know, he recently foughtKaya.
He's.
He performs incredibly well,right, and he's at on the leaner

(04:32):
side of his physique, you knowhe's.
He's not as big as he once was,but he's, he's a beast.
Urosh is in there.
Hiptosh, josh, josh, we've gota Kenta Whoosh, queensland, yeah
, yeah, great competitor,Kenta's going to be in there.
Wow, he's more of like a sub-90guy.
I think he competes under 80usually.
Yeah, he's short but thick.
He does very well with thebigger guys.

(04:54):
I mean, fuck, kenta competedagainst Micah.
Yeah, that's right, didn't he,which would have been probably
like under 80 kilos?
Yeah, potentially 77, orwhatever it was, 78.
Man, your boy, harry Kimura, isin the mix.
Harry Kimura is never not at acompetition.
The big boys come out, he comesout.

(05:14):
He has a chance to fucking hita double wrist lock on some cats
, mate, but I think I mean, he'sa good contender too at that
weight, yeah, and as someonewho's got good experience in
like not submission only, butlike he's competed at what's the
Japanese one?
They love Quintet, quintet, youknow, which are like these
energetic rule sets wherethey're pushing heaps of action.

(05:35):
Yeah, and I think Kenta is afinisher.
This is the upside.
And, look, I want to talk aboutthe challenge.
This is what people don'tunderstand about the giles
trials and this is what I wantto share with you as why I think
it's kind of shocking.
It's all on one day.
So the 16-man tournament,whoever wins that has to then

(05:57):
get in the mix with declan,moody, with kaya, with tito,
like with.
Oh, then they've got to enterthe heavyweight division.
Yeah, on the same day.
On the same day, wait, you gotto enter the heavyweight
division.
Yeah, on the same day.
On the same day, wait, you'vegot to go round Robin, 16-man
division, all these mothers, tothen fight the big bosses.
That's right, it is epic quest.
It is crazy, dude, that'sfucked.

(06:17):
It's 100%.
You said it, joe.
So, guys, whoever wins?
That it's really tough.
You said it, joe.
So, guys, whoever wins?
That it's really tough.
Wait, I just don't understandhow that's at all worth it, how
that makes sense, right, becauseit's very likely that you're
going to get into it and thenjust get smashed.
And so then it's like well, whydid we even bother having you

(06:38):
go on this quest to get into it?
Well, look, good question.
I think I need to make a phonecall.
I think lock on Giles.
Well, look, there's variousreasons as to why that is the
way it is.
I'll not get into them, but Iwant to talk about a guy who
people are not necessarily awareof Bilal.

(06:59):
Now, some people are aware ofwho this guy is.
He trained in Auckland.
He's only been training forabout four years.
This guy is a big rig.
A big rig you don't.
When you see him sitting down,you're like, oh, he kind of
looks like everyone else.
Obviously he's big upper body.
He stands up.
You're like, oh, my god, Idon't know how tall.
He's, a six, three, six, fourlike.
I saw him standing next tobobby and he didn't look short,

(07:22):
right, you know.
You know I was like, wow,fucking tall, very tall, and so
below, um, it's a bar.
Uh, etia Barry, and I didn'tget to roll with him.
I was hesitant to roll with him, but he's renowned for wrecking
people, right, and I saw himand kit go to war.
It was pretty interestingbecause kit has a great passing
style.
Bilal has a very specific guard,leg lock, destroy you game and

(07:47):
he's all about that.
He believes that's the wayjujitsu should be done and he's
very anti what he calls Americanjujitsu, which is the wrestle,
take down, pass, submit.
He's like no, that's bullshit.
You pull guard, you get to thelegs, you break legs.
That's his whole mentality.
And he has moved to trainfull-time in Melbourne with
Lachlan oh wow.

(08:08):
And so he is really the darkhorse because he's big enough,
strong enough and brutal enoughto be able to get those
submissions.
That's what his game's allabout, and I think he also has
the size to deal with some bighumans.
So you're stating that thiskid's a bit of a favorite.
I wouldn't say he's a favoritebecause there's some other

(08:28):
people in there who are moreachieved.
I believe he's the dark horse,right, that's my prediction.
I feel like, even though I likeand respect so many of the
other people in the in the 16man, uh, I think Bilal is like a
real threat.
Right, I think Bilal is like areal threat.
He's super efficient too, likehe could do a ton of matches
like that and not burn up a lotof energy because he's not

(08:48):
trying to wrestle.
It is a very efficient way toapproach a match, isn't it?
Yeah, he's renowned for justbreaking people's shit, right?
So we'll see how that plays out.
Now, when it comes to that kindof final group of killers, for
me I mean I am biased.
Imagine, imagine, yeah, no, forme it's JT neutrality,

(09:11):
tomlinson, that's what they callme.
So who have we got in thatcategory?
I'm just getting the permanentthe list here, so I don't
misspeak, but for me, myprediction is Kaya and Declan.
I think Declan is the most.
What you're saying in the final,yeah, like I feel like I don't

(09:34):
know how the the submissions aregoing to stack up, cause that's
actually how they're decidingit.
Declan is fucking huge.
He's huge.
He's the most proven big comingout of Australia in terms of
international competition andand and being a B team and doing
everything that he has done.
So when we have a look, we'vegot Declan, moody, bob Frias,

(09:57):
alibibi, orozbek I don't evenknow who that is.
Kyle Rudolph oh, sorry, my bad.
Bilal is actually in the.
He's already in the?
He's right, he's there, he'sthere, so he doesn't have to go
through that.
Okay, and then whoever wins thetrials?
Okay, so, kaya, yeah, right,kai's in there.
Kai's going to be small in thatdivision, he is, he's.

(10:18):
He's more like, naturally, akind of, uh, kind of 90, 90 ish
um of the Alley-Own team camp,right, and they had everyone
there and they even had um KynanDuarte teaching there.
Okay, who's you know?
Uh, you know a great champion,yeah, and so great pool of

(10:40):
talent there.
Kynan, the guy just lost.
He's worthless now.
His game is nothing.
He's been defeated, yeah,defeated.
Yeah, guy's a loser, clearly.
But that's the thing.
You know, different people showup to different things at
different times and they saythat Kynan really shows up for
the ADCC but maybe not as goodfor his super fights.
Yeah, you know, differentpeople are better in different

(11:01):
formats.
Here's the thing, folks.
There is still one bigoutstanding detail that we're
kind of I've been dancing around, but let's fucking get to it.
Detail that we're kind of I'vebeen dancing around, but let's
fucking get to it.
It's the 66 kilo wildcard draw.
Oh, okay.
Now, what you should know aboutthe wildcard draw is it can be
anyone from around the world,right.
So it doesn't have to beAustralia, or, like I was wrong.

(11:23):
Imagine that I am I.
I, I read it wrong.
I thought it had to beAustralia, sometimes wrong,
tomlinson, sometimes, rarely,rarely wrong, but that's the
thing.
I thought it had to beAustralia.
Jt, sometimes wrong, tomlinson,sometimes Rarely, rarely wrong,
but that's the thing.
I thought it had to be someonelocal.
That's why I thought the way.
No, it can be anyone in theworld, just to clarify.
So Lockie has his team of howmany?
Five, five, and he has to havethe sixth.

(11:46):
So so it's 66, under 70, likemiddle, 77, 88.
Yeah, so under 90, under 100,over 100.
Right.
And so he's basically gotwildcard at 66.
Yep.
And then he's got theheavyweight, which is to be
decided.
Yeah, heavyweight and under 90.
Right.
So what's?
He got Three people.

(12:06):
He's got three peoplesolidified.
Yeah, levi.
No, he's got Levi and Lucas,lucas.
That's the only two peoplelocked in.
There's three more to come?
Okay, but the 66 could beanyone.
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Oh, wow, there was a textmessage Similar maybe in Pete

(13:14):
Hegzett, it's fullery.
Yeah, it was somebody in agroup chat, forgetting that.
They've included we're bombingthe Houthi rebels what, what,
who's him?
Yeah, and then Don't betouristing in Yemen at this time
.
It went out to everybody.
It went out to, I think, 10different high-level jiu-jitsu
folks.
What?
Yeah, now this could be a smokesignal.
Could be a smoke signal, butwhat, as in like a diversion.

(13:37):
It could be a diversion, butthis person that has been
rumored is one of the bestgrapplers in the world under 66,
and they don't necessarily havea team.
They're part of a big team inthe world, but they don't have a
team in cji.
Baby shark.
They need somebody.
They need somebody.
It could be baby shark would bejoey's favorite grappler.

(13:58):
Oh shit, it could.
His name could rhyme withfabrizio andre.
She could be.
No, it could be.
This is what we're saying.
Maybe, wow, it could be thesame.
I didn't say it, I don't.
I don't know for sure, butthere's wild rumors swinging

(14:20):
around.
I talked to a lot of peoplewhen I was in Melbourne.
I could get nothing out ofLachlan Giles I love you, lucky,
but fuck you.
And I could get nothing out ofMikhail.
I was staying with him, I waschipping away at him.
He's like you'll find outSaturday.
And I'm like tell me now, dudeHokaji at 66?
Bro, motherfucker's going to bestripped, bro.

(14:41):
Wouldn't that be a wild team,though that would be, yeah, that
would be incredible, yeah.
So this is the thing I thinkthe interesting thing is.
The interesting thing for me isthere's some major heavyweight
names from Australia who are notdoing this competition, namely
Josh Saunders, your boy, danManchild, not doing it.
Sandbag and Cronche is absent.

(15:04):
Where's Sandbag and Cronche at?
He's somewhere in Mexico.
No, he's at B-Team right now.
Okay, fair, like he's doing histhing On those like Josh
Saunders wouldn't miss a chance,but he's on the Danaher.
He's team Danaher, and he alsodid not get selected for New
Wave.
Okay, so it's another side ofthat.
Also, dan Manchild, I believe,would never do a craig jones

(15:26):
event, okay, um, who else isthere?
There's, look, I mean there'ssome we didn't mention that are
in the big man lineup.
I've got tito john carl's inthere, yeah, yeah, and look, I
think tito, tito is so hard tobeat.
He's such an x factor, right,and so I didn't want to speak
past tito, because I love him.
Shout out to you're the man,but, bro, it's going to be so

(15:47):
hard coming to that 16, man.
It's, it was very tough.
I just like.
I mean, I was thinking aboutjumping in last minute.
You know what I mean, of course, and I did.
I've been doing some curls andshit.
I talked to Lockie about it andhe said that he had your number
there to call, okay, and hesaid just wait, okay, because
also Burak Saman was meant to bein there but has had to pull

(16:08):
out, I think due to injury.
Oh, wow, and so he's.
You know, joe, just check yourmessages today.
All right, I will.
Yeah, I've been on.
Do Not Disturb, but I'll openthat shit up, switch it back on.
I guess I'll reply to LachlanJohnson.
But no, I mean just goingthrough that fucking fire To
then arrive at all these beastsyeah, just these monsters.

(16:29):
It's incredibly challenging.
That's a long day, it's a bigday, but it'll be worthwhile,
guys.
So I want to say this to tellyou you need to tune in to check
out the Giles Trials, which isactually on the B-Team YouTube.
So go over and check it out.
It's this weekend.
Well, this episode actuallyit's not going to be quite

(16:51):
exciting the way they've got toset up.
Yeah, a lot of high qualitymatchups.
There's going to be some sickmatches in there and for you
know, for our non-Australianlisteners who are like, don't
even know who any of these cuntsare, if you don't know who
fucking, if you don't know,you'll know.
But there's, you know, some ofit's.
I mean, you know Lockie andstuff, but this is, this is like
side quest, precursor story tofucking CJI.

(17:14):
Yes, like this is like you know, you liked, you liked star Wars
and then you wanted to watchMandalorian and shit, yeah, this
is Mandalorian, this is it isyou want to.
At the coaches Craig has picked,they're kind of polarizing.
Other than Lockie, like hepicked Greg Souders for, like

(17:35):
Team America, did he?
Yeah, greg Souders coached theAmerican team.
So who else we got?
We got Atos and they got NewWave.
I think they may have 10thPlanet, I don't know if that's
confirmed, right, but thenthey've got old mate from Los
Banditos coaching Team EuropeOwen, no, no, no, big staunch.

(17:56):
He's always beefing with all theBrazilians.
You know what I'm talking about.
I'll Google him now.
Yeah, fuck, who is that?
No, anyway, he's very funny,he's a charming fellow.
He's always creatingcontroversy and I think Lost
Bandita.
Has it got a team?
Or is it a British team?
No, no, there's like a TeamEurope.

(18:17):
I think they're doing like,they're doing misfits.
I think that's what it's beingcalled.
Right, right, okay, so you'vegot to look at that and you've
got to go.
Okay, who fits into?
A great finisher, a greatperformer, but maybe the team
isn't big enough to be able tolike.

(18:41):
You know, you've got at LosBandidos, you've got like Wizard
of Oz, beck.
You've got Charles Nigromonte,You've got like a bunch of
really tough guys.
But, yeah, that's right, certainteams like the Australian team,
you know there's smallercommunity here when you compare
it to some of those enormousteams like Atos and stuff.
No, but I think that the thingabout Australia which people are
not appreciating is we've gotthe talent, like we've got.

(19:03):
We have Absolutely, but wedon't.
We don't.
I mean, atos has the talent inone gym and that's just one gym,
right, and we've got to.
We've got to bring the wholecountry state.
We've got to bring the wholecountry together.
Um and B team's obviously got ateam.
Yes, of course, who's doingwho's doing?
B team?
Nicky, right in there.
Yeah, yeah, I would say, Iwould say Nicky, but essentially

(19:24):
they've got too pick from itbeating.
Yeah, I think that's.
I mean, that's always the casewith an event like this.
Right, you can't, you can'tinclude everyone that you'd love
to be there.
Yeah, I mean, and that's why Iunderstand, you know, I'm
probably not going to returnlockheed's call because you know
, like, as much as he wants me,you gotta give people a chance.
Yeah, you know, I'd love to seesome young guys fucking come
into their own.

(19:44):
Oh, faradino, faradino,faradino is the um is the.
Is the European coach?
Show me, I never heard of thisguy.
Oh, bro, you gotta get up onthis guy.
He's hilarious, he's alwaystrolling.
Oh, this guy, you do know him.
If you see him, you know him,he's a beast, he's a world
champion, he just made acomeback in the Gi and he's

(20:08):
ultra tough.
So, yeah, he, craig, has pickedpolarizing coaches and I think
that lockheed is the mostmoderate of all the coaches,
that he's kind of chosen andthat ultimately, team australia
is the dark horse for the cji.
Yeah, but what you're going tosee this weekend for the giles

(20:29):
trials is the, the build-up, as,like you say, like the embedded
, the formative breakdown tolike what's going to make this
team that I believe can come andseriously challenge for the cji
million bucks.
Well, yeah, and you know what?
Um, just occurred to me and Iknow this is this is not news to
anyone, but this is just thisway of viewing it for me is kind

(20:50):
of new Like Australia obviouslyis well represented in the
international jiu-jitsu scene,but like this event, like,
specifically, you're like CraigJones, a worldwide sensation
from Australia, like he's afucking unicorn in the world of
jiu-jitsu.
Sure, lachlan Giles has madehis mark as one of the most, as

(21:11):
going on one of the mostincredible runs of all time in
ADCC, australian, but alsoimpactful coach, that's right.
And then Adele Fornerino, themost hyped and potentially
goatest female grappler of alltime and you're like, oh, wow,
actually, yeah, like there is ahuge Levi Sanadu, possibly the
greatest guard you know.

(21:31):
Like, yeah, he might've lost toCade, but did he lose that match
?
Jt's not letting it go Never,but no, that's right.
Yeah, lucas Canard getting theheel from Victor Hugo.
Victor Hugo, like there's we.
Yeah, like in the eyes of therest of the world they're
probably like, fuck, what is itwith these Australian c fucking
Australians?
Yeah, but uh, yeah, there it is.
Folks definitely tune in, we'llget this ep out.

(21:52):
You've got to check out theGiles Trials, which will be
streaming live on the B TeamYouTube.
You need to check it out.
This is where history will bemade.
Boss, boss, shoo.
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