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Speaker 1 (00:07):
A good martial artist
does not become tense, but
ready.
Essentially, at this point, thefight is over, so you pretty
much flow with the goal.
Who is worthy to be trustedwith the secret to limitless
power?
I'm ready.
The m16 open is going down andI'm going to be there, and I
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wanted to talk about how some ofthese I guess local shows build
the superstars that we see atCJI, ADCC, all of this.
So this is a local show whichis in South Australia.
It was set up by Adam Jones,the better Jones brother, older
brother of Craig Jones, and alsoMiles Simpson, his business
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partner in the M16 gym.
And yeah, it's awesome, man.
This is their 15th show.
Oh, wow, and it's growing andevolving.
It's awesome, man.
They've been there.
This is their 15th show.
Oh, it's, it's growing andevolving.
It's, it's awesome.
I really wanted to kind ofbreak it down to shine a
spotlight on something which iscreating the superstars we see
now.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
It brings?
Does it bring competitors fromall over the country?
Yeah, does it bring anyone likeis it open to international
fighters?
Speaker 1 (01:24):
I believe so, but I
think the difficulty there
obviously is that they have donesome really awesome super
fights and had, I guess,international level competitors.
So originally you know theywere like how do we get Declan
Moody fights in the ADCC format?
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You know, submission only, andoriginally the way it started
was 50 bucks.
Each winner takes all Right on.
You know, 16-man tournament,let's go.
And you know, I think theystarted in um, like just in a in
a gym.
I think they just started inthe M16 gym, in their gym,
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wasn't?
Speaker 2 (02:11):
it yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
And then they moved
to a slightly bigger venue and
they went to the rec center andthen it's just.
It's just grown because alsothe spectator base has grown and
they've also been able to getpeople from interstate.
Like they had Jake O'Driscollcome from Perth and they brought
him over and then they had yourboy inside Hill Hook.
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He beat why does his nameescape me?
He got submission of the nightat CJI against Lucas Lucas
Cannard.
They had him in for a superfight, which was awesome, and so
obviously they are competingwith some of these big
international shows in terms ofwhen Australia's top elite
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grapplers are available.
But the reason why I reallywant to fucking talk about it is
you would not see Declan now asthis monster if it wasn't for
these guys putting in thegroundwork.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Yeah, you know, like
yeah, declan was a.
He was like a.
I remember watching him competeat Subversion and he had that
reputation as being, you know,one of the toughest guys on the
circuit locally.
Yes, and he was this boy fromSouth Australia.
Yes, and he was tall and skinny.
Imagine, yeah, and he tall andskinny.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
He was Imagine, yeah,
and he was more of a gi guy too
, yeah, in the earlier days.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Yeah, and, and I mean
I guess you know to, to clarify
for those who don't know he's,he's competed in last ADCC.
Yeah, he competed on um.
What?
What did he do most recently, Ithink?
Speaker 1 (03:42):
it was I Recently won
.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
He destroyed the
field for the Giles trials.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Yeah, but he is also.
I think he's part of team umteam Alley-Own.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Right on yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Like.
So he will be competing at theAIGA championship later in the
year with all the othersuperstars.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Yeah, he's absolutely
gone to the top.
Yes, and he's a.
He's a B team guy now.
Yep, been there for a few years, it seems he has.
He's been training on and off.
He's graced the Bulletproof forBJJ podcast.
He was of a level that he gotto sit on the couch.
That was actually before we hada couch, that's true, sit at
the desk.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
He had a chair.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Yeah, no, but he
really has gotten to the top of
the game hasn't he?
Speaker 1 (04:21):
He's elevated himself
and it's awesome to see and
awesome to see.
And I think what we don'tappreciate is what's it take to
get somebody from very goodlocally like the best guy in
your town, the best guy in yourstate and then maybe one of the
best guys in your country to be,you know, top five, top 10 in
the world.
What does that take?
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And what it takes is somehardworking motherfuckers
working the back end, puttingthemselves out, paying money.
And so I was speaking with Adam.
So you know I wanted to go andsupport because I'm like man,
this is great.
I also want to see the eventbecause it looks great on social
media.
I'd love to be there physically.
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And he was like our whole goalwas trying to give grapplers
opportunities to compete and notpay money.
It's so wild that jujitsu guys,to get good, they have to keep
giving money to tournaments,even if they're elite, they're
not getting paid to show up, notpaid anything.
If anything, they have to paytheir flights, pay their ACOM.
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It's such a big investment.
The amazing thing that M16 doesand I don't know if how many,
because we have other shows inAustralia where it's like caged
grappling and, like you knowsubversion.
They have grappling nights.
I don't know if they're payingathletes to show up.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Not all of them, no,
but I mean, and that's, I think
that's kind of the crossover,isn't it Like that?
The traditional jujitsucompetitions weren't designed to
be a spectator event?
No, but I mean, and that's, Ithink that's kind of the
crossover, isn't it Like that?
The traditional jujitsucompetitions weren't designed to
be a spectator event?
No, it was a sports tournamentExperience, and so it's yeah,
and so it's like well, it's forthe athletes, and so, if you
want to have the opportunity tocompete, we've organized this
thing and you can come andcompete.
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Whereas I think what Subversiondid which was cool was see, and
it sounds like M16 have donethe same thing where they've
seen, oh, there is a market for,like, spectators want to come
and watch high-level grappling,yeah, and they'll pay and
they'll buy things and drinksand food and fucking merch,
whatever.
So let's make it a spectatorevent, yeah, which means that
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now we can pay the athletes.
It's like a total flip on themodel.
Yeah, yeah, it's mad Cause.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
I mean, yeah, like
I'd love to go to that shit too,
yeah, I mean, back in the daysI actually was part of like the
Boa super eight, where theybrought out Satoshi and they
brought out a bunch of differentBrazilians and top level guys
and they had it on an elevatedplatform, which is kind of dicey
if people are going fortakedowns, but they loved to do
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it for the spectacle and I hadlike a super match, whatever.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Did you yeah?
Speaker 1 (06:57):
But I think I was
only purple belt at the time.
But regardless, did you fuckingwin, cody?
I fucking lost in the dyingseconds.
Wow, I was winning.
You got subbed.
No, no, no, I got swept tomount Like you know it was.
You know I was doing all right.
I didn't get footlocked, whichis what my main opponent's goal
was Like.
That's what he was famous for.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
And what a shit gun.
Yeah, no, I was, should havewon.
Well, maybe I was up, I got acouple of sweeps or something,
so it might've been four nil orsix nil and then swept to
mountain.
Couldn't get the fuck out done.
But the great thing about itwas it brought this idea of we
could get international gueststo come to Australia and they
could actually get a decentamount of money for putting on a
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show, you know, and yeah.
So, bro, I think what has beenamazing about the growth of
jiu-jitsu in Australia is thatyou get something like these
guys, adam Jones and MilesSimpson, and they are like we
want to build the Adelaide scene, and I really believe that's
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what they've done, as much asthey create competition.
So this comp coming up isthere's going to be a four-man
88-kilo category and then themain event is an under 80-kilo
eight-man tournament for $1,000.
Right on Now some people mightbe like oh, $1,000, like what's
that?
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Like, if you're just some, ifyou're an up-and-coming
jiu-jitsu athlete, even ifyou're very good, $1 thousand
dollars is fucking nothing tosneeze at.
Like.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
No, you'd be happy
for someone to buy you a
sandwich.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Free sandwiches.
Yeah, you mean, those littlepackets of acai are like on the
house.
This shit's catered.
We cannot miss this comp.
I'm going to, I'm going to gostraight into camp for the next
three months, but this is thereality of it, isn't it?
I think we've been a bitspoiled by CJI and shit Like
that's really boosted in a way,our sort of like.
You think about this likebefore CJI was ever conceived of
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in our minds.
Right, $10,000 to win ADCCseemed pretty good, crazy.
That was the best you could do.
It's elite Besides, whatever.
Some the odd.
Maybe Abu Dhabi pro or spiderinvitational you know, these
events that come along like ameteor every every fucking 10
years.
But it was like, oh, wow, 10 G's.
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Now it's like, oh, a milliondollars to win.
It's kind of just blowneverything out of the water.
But we can't forget that thatis like CGI still at this point
is just one promotion that hasstill only played out once.
It's probably going to play outa second time.
But all of those little compsthat are fucking getting
together a purse of whateverthey can is really like, really
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means a lot to a lot ofgrapplers who get nothing.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Yeah, and and I think
that's the thing that like Adam
was saying to me is is like wewant people to know if they're
coming from interstate, they'recoming from Perth, they're
coming from New South Wales, wewill pay for them to get here.
I can't guarantee them thepurse, but they're going to make
sure they're not out of pocket.
Even Even some MMA fightpromotions won't do that.
They expect you to payeverything to get there.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
And then you hope to
recoup it through your winnings.
Right?
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And they have had some top-leveltalent come through.
And so I think what we forgetis when we see those stars at
the CJI or the ADCC.
Where the hell did they comefrom?
And I would say it is showslike the m16 open, where you get
a guy like declan moody, or youget a lucas canard, where it's
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like this is where those guyslike really kind of cut their
teeth, yeah, before they brokethrough, you know, and and I
think it's it's very impressive.
Now I want to touch on somethingwhich is just probably not
spoken about.
Well, look, it was spoken about, but I want to say solemn rest
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in peace to Luke Marco.
So Luke Marco is a young,up-and-coming athlete who's
considered to be real pride ofup-and-coming talent in jujitsu
in Adelaide and unfortunately hetragically died in a in a motor
vehicle accident, uh only umsome weeks ago.
So Adam is dedicating this showto him and is looking to make
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moves through the M16 open tokeep his name alive and honor
him, because everybody felt thatkid's talent and felt he was
going to be the next big thingcoming up.
Did he?
Did he train with Adam?
Yeah, they did training there.
They did some training at M16.
I don't believe that wasnecessarily his home gym, but he
just was prepared to doanything.
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He was at basically all theseminars, all the tournaments.
He competed on the M16 Open abunch of times, super matches,
whatever.
He just was so willing tocompete.
Super young athletic, justgolden heart.
So it's what?
Speaker 2 (12:30):
a shame.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Yeah, huge loss there
.
So the awesome thing is thatthe community is banded together
to be like nah, that was ourguy and we want to make sure
that his memory stays alive.
So I'm excited to see itbecause it has grown.
It's actually going to be at annot an entertainment center,
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but they're actually going tohave some booze, so it's going
to be like adults' event, youknow, like the kids can come in
early but there'll be Booze likealcohol.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Yeah, oh wow, I
thought you meant like booths,
no, no.
Booze like alcohol.
Yeah, oh wow, I thought youmeant like booths, no, no.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
I mean Shit, they've
got the acai stall there.
No, no More professional thanthat.
So they've got local sponsorsand interstate sponsors.
We're sponsoring, we want tosupport the show, and they've
got a bunch of super fights onsuper matches, I should say.
And then Jack will call me outthe man with the large hog.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
He just speaks on
account of the people.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
He's not the people.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Is it a daytime event
or a nighttime thing?
Speaker 1 (13:29):
It starts at 4 pm,
but it'll go through.
They don't want it to dragbecause also, at the end of the
day, it's a we all say thatabout Jiu-Jitsu comps.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
We're trying hard for
this not to to drag out guys.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
1am it's like
definitely going to drag out now
that you've said that no, no,well, I guess it's.
It's far more controlled than ajujitsu tournament in terms of,
like, there's less I know howmany competitors they got, they
know how long the matches are,and they've done it before, so
it's actually it's not like justrandoms.
Yeah, it's professionally run.
They know who their refs are,they got the timekeepers.
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You know what I mean.
So I think that this beingtheir 15th show will mean that
you know, from the way Adam hadkind of outlined it to me, that
they also want people to have anopportunity to go have a night
afterwards.
So if people want to go outafterwards, they can.
Or if people want to go fromthe event and go have dinners or
drinks or whatever they can.
But it's a good place to getthe night kicked off.
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But I think, even like kidsunder 12 are free, so they have
a section which is like all ages, so it's like a really
inclusive environment.
They've got their tieredseating because I think it's on
a.
I have to check the venue, butbasically there will be links
below to the stream, so they'llbe streaming it on YouTube and
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then there's also links to buytickets.
So if you're keen to get alongand check it out, I think they
still have some tickets left,but people still bought a bunch
of tickets Right on.
So, yeah, if you're keen tocheck it out.
I think it's definitelyworthwhile, because this is the
thing that builds the futurestars and that's why it's
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worthwhile to get in, becausewhat I love about it is you're
like, yeah, I saw that guy whenhe was a blue belt and now
dude's a star, taken over thescene, yeah, so I think that's
that's a, that's a kind ofexciting element of going to
things like this and supportingshows that support jujitsu
culture.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Fuck, brian.
Someone might even be able torun into you Fuck it support
jujitsu culture.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Fuck bro.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
And someone might
even be able to run into you
fucking.
Well, maybe make sure you callhim joey fuck, joey hawaii
legend.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Well, you know how,
he doesn't wear a hat and I wear
this red hat and I got thisbeard and it's kind of a decided
difference, point of difference.
Actually, you know what adamsaid to me he's like, bro, we
get your match.
I'm like, oh, no, dude.
No, he's like bro, that wouldbe sick.
He was like you could fight jowould be sick.
He was like you could fightJoey.
I'm like nah, man, I'm like nah.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
That'd be a great way
to destroy the business.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
I was like it's going
to be over real quick.
You know I'm winning that match.
Come on now.
It's not even a match.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Bro, I'll just
fucking, I'll just fend you off
for a couple of minutes, and andthen Joey pounces Pounces the
strong man comes out hard andfast and then just, of course,
because I'm the one who hasn'tbeen training.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
But that's fine,
that's fine.
We'll leave that up to mystery.
We'll leave it up to yourimaginations.
But if you are interested,check out the live stream.
If you're checking this out,there's some really good matches
on the card.
But if you're local, you go getyour tickets.
Click the out.
Um, there's some really goodmatches on the card, but if
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you're local, you go get yourtickets.
Click the link below.
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