June 29, 2025 • 19 mins
You want to get better but you feel stuck? Or maybe you can't stop getting injured, and you don't know how to get yourself back. Even though these martial arts are solo missions, it's so important to get the right team behind you to succeed. Learn a little bit more about that in this episode...
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
A good martial artist does not become tense but ready
.
Essentially, at this point thefight is over, so you pretty
much flow with the goal.
Who is worthy to be trustedwith the secret to limitless
power?
Speaker 2 (00:27):
I'm ready.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Are you racing your jiu-jitsu race with an F1 team
behind you, or are you solo,stuck on the side of the road in
a broken down Tarago?
This is a question becausemartial arts is a solo pursuit,
but you need a coach, you needtraining partners, you need a
team, you need support.
To be successful in BJJ and anyother martial arts pursuit,
(00:57):
even though it's solo, you needa team and we need to talk about
a different kind of team that'sgoing to make sure you stay in
the Jiu-Jitsu game.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Just on that team thing, is there a little bit of
a?
Um, there's maybe a little bitof a romance in jiu-jitsu about
doing it like the lone wolf, theronin yeah, yeah, solo samurai.
Yeah, like you know, like, um,like you know, and and of course
, like maybe craig jones had abit of that in his not story.
No, I mean, he didn't actuallyright, he had coaches, but from
(01:25):
what you see and what peopleprobably know, it can appear as
though, oh, like he was kind ofa lone guy fighting against the
big team.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
No, I think that's a misconception.
I mean, I don't even buy thatin any way, shape or form.
I think Craig.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
No, no, no, I'm saying that there is.
I'm not saying that that'sactually what happened, but I'm
saying that maybe that's part ofthe story a little bit.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Maybe I think, if we look at the history of martial
arts, that yes, you could getsomeone like Miyamoto Musashi,
who was like I depend on me, Idepend on no one else.
Whatever, he still had militarytraining right.
He's still like, even though hewas like an odyssey in himself,
he still trained in themilitary and then he formed his
(02:09):
own conclusions.
He did a bunch of self-reliancestuff.
But when it comes to BJJ, youneed training partners.
You can't just kill everyoneyou meet Like.
You're not going to get a lotbetter that way and if we look
at not even the importance ofyour lineage, you still need
someone who knows you to knowhow to help you as much as you
(02:31):
can be independent and form yourown ideas.
Everybody needs a bit offeedback.
So step one is like having acoach right, like that's so
important and we accept that.
I think in jujitsu it'saccepted that you need somebody
who you learn from and thatmight change over time.
But you don't come into thegame knowing everything and even
though you might learn reallyquickly and your coaches may
(02:52):
evolve, you might start withyour coach and then you might go
train at a bigger team.
Bigger team, you travelinternationally, you learn from
everyone you train with.
But essentially, you can'tdevelop as an individual without
opponents and training partners.
Yeah, so it's very acceptedthat you've got a coach, you've
got training partners you workwith, and when we look at the
concentrations of teams whetherit be New Wave or it'd be Atos
(03:17):
or B-Team or Absolute MMA orwhatever your chosen
concentration of martial artistsis, having good people around
you helps you in a lot of ways,because it shortcuts a lot of
learnings.
Yeah, and so we know that.
We know that.
But now the team we're going totalk about right here isn't
(03:37):
necessarily just your martialarts team, the trainer, et
cetera we're talking about.
Do you have a personal trainer?
Because we know there's peopleout there that have S&C coaches
and the elite level jujitsuathletes like Andy Murasaki, or
I mean even the B-team guys.
Who's Andy Murasaki?
(03:58):
Andy Murasaki, actually, Ithink he might have got silver
at the recent WorldChampionships.
He is one of the top levelblack belts in the world who has
an elite level strengthconditioning coach and does
elite level strengthconditioning.
Ah, right on, like we look atthe Atos guys, right, they got
Alex um from Electron.
Yeah, and so when you don'tknow what to do but you want to
(04:19):
get good at something, you needhelp, you know, and this is what
we do, right, if you like.
For me, I'm not a handy guy.
I'll be completely honest asmuch as I like to think that I
could fucking pick up some toolsand fix some shit, if I can pay
someone to do it, I will,because I don't want to fuck
around and waste time.
I also don't want to flood mykitchen, break my car.
(04:41):
I really in those realms of mylife, I don't want to fuck
around and find out.
I want to find someone whoknows and get help, because it
saves me time, right?
I don't want to waste time and Ithink this is where you know
getting a personal trainer,finding a physio who can help
you with your injuries, findinga doctor who gets jujitsu Like
(05:02):
they're not going to misdiagnoseyour staff infection as a
spider bite and you end up withfucking medical resistance staff
Like I think it's so importantto find people who are your
allies that help keep you on thetrack of jujitsu.
And you, you, you've gonethrough a process of uh, even
though we we both have contacts,um, in the health and fitness
(05:23):
industry, joee, you've had towork through your own process of
finding appropriate people tohelp you yeah, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
You always like it comes out of necessity, doesn't
it?
When you, when you cop aninjury or you've got something
that is not immediately resolved, like you go to one, you go to
a doctor and they tell you likefuck, that didn't help.
And you go to a fucking physioand that didn't help.
And so you start to realize,man, I really fucking need
someone that just knows what Ido.
They get it and you know islike fucking with it.
(05:52):
And yeah, like there's a lotright that you're looking for.
But when you find that person,you're like that person is
that's exactly who I'm lookingfor, my guy, and I'm going to
keep that person close.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Yeah, and this is the thing that is probably not
spoken about enough in jujitsuis that you do need more than
one person Like as much as youmight have someone who's super
(06:24):
reliable, your kind of go-tobest mate with the advice,
whether it be you know, like weall have someone who's like
really good at technology.
So you've got a mate and you'relike man, I've got this problem
with my fucking laptop,whatever it's like oh, it's easy
, you just do this.
Or you've got a mate who'sreally good at cars, just
obsessed with cars, so you'relike can you fucking have a look
?
What the fuck's going on here?
So having someone who is veryreliable, understands jiu-j, can
help you.
He's going to save you a lot offucking time when you break
(06:46):
down.
And the reason why I wanted tobring this up is I'm not really
a fan of F1.
But I was admiring theefficiency of an F1 team to
fucking get a car back on track.
So this guy's tire blew out.
He pulls in and within I think15 seconds this guy is fucking
(07:07):
sorted and back on the trackthat fast.
And honestly you're like, how'sthat possible?
They've got 20 guys going nutsmaking sure everything's perfect
and there's millions of dollarsthere.
But Jiu-Jitsu is the same andyou have a limited amount of
time in the game in Jiu-Jitsu.
So how much time you spendstuck on the side of the fucking
highway with no help will limithow much time you get spend
(07:30):
back on the road.
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
yeah, I mean those, those instances when you don't,
when you don't have the team forthe specific problem, right,
like you don't have someone togo and see about your bad
shoulder it costs you weeks,pain, months of pain and shitty
training and frustration,because you're like, ah, I went
and saw someone but they weren'tfucking very helpful and
(07:52):
trained it.
You know, it's just this, thiswhole, whereas when you got that
person, you fucking go therethe next day, you get the
information you need and you'reon track.
You know on track makes you,makes you understand where this
terminology comes from, doesn'tit?
Yes, sir, it does, but um, butit does, but it really is
invaluable.
And I think it's only whenyou're faced with the dilemma of
, oh my God, I actually don'tfucking know who to go and see
about this right that you reallycome to appreciate.
(08:15):
I wish I could not be stuck inthis fucking dilemma.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Yeah, and look, the reason why I talk about this is
because I've made all thefucking mistakes.
I'm not saying this because, oh, I'm so superior, I've got it
all worked out.
The amount of time I've wastedin a fucked situation because I
didn't know better, it makes mecringe now.
So I've been that person brokendown on the side of the highway
, didn't have a spare tire, orit wasn't pumped up, or I didn't
(08:40):
know what was wrong with my car.
But how good is it, when you'vepaid for the insurance, to have
the roadside assistance?
They come, they show up, theyfix it for you, they tell you
what's up and, fuck, you're backon the road.
Yeah, wow, that's great, I'mback in the race, baby Back,
fucking ring, ring, and so, yeah, just fucking burnouts in the
Taraga.
Yeah, but that's the thing aboutthis idea of being broken down.
(09:03):
Obviously, this idea of beingbroken down, obviously you don't
stop living your life.
You're not just parked, you'reparked in terms of you can't do
jiu-jitsu, but you're stillbattling along with the fucking
flat tire in life.
But this makes your experienceof life way more miserable.
Yeah, yeah, like I think thisis the thing that we
underestimate, that that injuryyou caught at jiu-jitsu turns
(09:24):
into like kind of downgradingthe the goodness in the
experience of life off the mat.
Yeah, and, and we just don't,um, we don't really realize what
that costs us in terms of justhappiness.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
I mean, we're our own worst enemy with, with that
shit too.
Like, um, I had theconversation with with, uh, my
lady the other day where youknow she's had this ongoing kind
of shoulder pain and you knowit comes up quite often and you
know it's like how's it going?
It's a little bit better today,oh, not so great today.
And I was like you know, whatare we doing at the gym?
(10:00):
She's like, oh, working on someshit and working on some muscle
ups and stuff.
And I was like like how many ofthose you're doing it's like,
you know, like singles, and I'mlike you shouldn't be doing that
, like you gotta fuck shoulder.
And then, but it's like, butwhy like?
It's like you know, and I'mlike, well, all right, fuck.
And so I threw the book at her.
I was like it's true range.
Shoulder extension.
(10:21):
It is maximal loading, it's um,it's loading.
You're going into a passiveposition under full load.
Yeah, I'm just like it'sbasically all of the things you
shouldn't be doing when you havea fucking injury in that
particular joint.
And you know, I think she's abit fucking, just kind of
spewing that.
It's like, oh, why do we haveto have this conversation?
Jeez man.
(10:42):
But you know, but if we stepback, step back from, it's like
like weeks, maybe months, oftalking about it.
So months where it's been athing, yeah, months where in
training it's been on her mind,it's been affecting the quality
of the training session.
Yeah, right, I'm hoping thatthis is talking to you grapplers
out there that you're like, yep, I'm fucking on the mats, I'm
(11:02):
rolling and I'm telling mypartner, oh, my shoulder's still
fucked, oh, my knee's still abit, whatever, yeah.
And then it's like cunt, if youjust fucking went and did
something about it, like went,found that person, paid them 120
bucks, got an assessment, gotsome exercises, started doing
them, this is all gone andyou're just on the fucking road
to recovery, yeah, you know, andyou're not spending months on
(11:24):
like subpar training sessionsand frustration and just feeling
like shit you're trying to getstronger for jujitsu and you're
not sure how we've got the thingfor you.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
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(11:54):
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Like, why would you?
No one, I think none of us.
If someone gave you the option,they're like look, you're going
to feel like shit for sixmonths, you're going to be in
pain and your jiu-jitsu is goingto suck.
Or you can spend a bit of money, take a bit of time, a little
(12:17):
bit of discomfort in the shortterm, but you're back on the
mats in two months and you feelgreat.
Which would you choose?
Now?
I'm the person who I beforebeing kind of a broke-ass
jiu-jitsu athlete, didn't paymoney for that you know how you
get the wheelbarrow.
We talked about the wheelbarrowwheel, like when you've got the
, you got a spare tire.
But it's this little, don't goover.
(12:39):
Oh, the cheese, cutter thecheese cutter wheel and you're
just like you even feel yourcars on a bit of a slant when
you're driving like.
So, having gone through thatexperience and it being very
immature in my approach to carmaintenance, all that shit, Now
being an adult and having gonethrough the fuckery and being
like, nah, actually I'm going topay the extra money to have a
(12:59):
proper extra tire.
It is pumped.
I've paid for the best tires.
I pay the premium on theroadside assistance so that if
I'm stuck in the middle ofnowhere I can get towed.
You know, a hundred kilometersand it doesn't cost me anything.
Like by investing in theassistance, I've saved myself so
(13:20):
much stress.
When the shit goes down, yeah,and that's the thing we don't
really realize how fucked it canget until the shit goes down.
You know, and we want you to beprepared, Like not only do we
want you to improve yourexperience of jujitsu and life
and bouncing back, getting backon track, but it's also like we
don't want anyone to be stuck inthat shit spot.
(13:41):
You know, you regularly see it,and what the good thing is
about being prepared is you'renot as shocked when it happens.
But when you're not prepared,it's catastrophic.
Yeah, you know.
Like you're not prepared, it'scatastrophic.
Yeah, you know like you'rereally.
You're really in fuck town.
And so give an example.
(14:01):
When I was a teenager, we movedto Dubbo and we had hired a
truck to pull our stuff in there.
Why'd you move there?
By the way, my mom got a job asa course coordinator for TAFE.
It was like a very seniorposition, really good for her
career, and so we moved out toDubbo.
Fuck, that was informative.
How old were you?
(14:21):
I was 14.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Right on, oh shit.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Yeah, bro, it was a tough time.
City kid, when I say cityPenrith, western Sydney kid
Living in the country, mate, itwas a harsh adjustment.
Yeah, wow, I definitely had tobite down a little bit.
I got in more fights in thatone year than any other time in
my teenage life.
Oh wow, I got punched in theface so much.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Right, it was wild.
I probably got end up like 140detentions for fighting.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Really.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Yeah, jesus, I didn't even start them.
If you talk too much, you getpunched in the face.
Were you a big talker back then?
I was Hard to imagine, but Italk less now than I used to.
You probably deserve some ofthose punches, maybe some, maybe
some.
But right, I wasn't, I was justtrying to make friends.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Yeah, wow, oh, that's fucked on the weekend I went to
the movies.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
No, you didn't use big note, shut up, bang, yeah,
basically.
Yeah, dude, I'm just defendingmyself.
You know it was a tough time,but, um, it definitely helped
open my eyes up and, uh, closemy mouth.
But, um, so what happened wasthe the higher truck had retread
.
So this is when the the truckcompany's like, oh, we don't
want to buy new tires, oh yeah,we'll just glue on this tread.
And the retread had worn thinand it whipped off and fucking
(15:39):
pulled the mud flap, steel mudflap into the tire, and so it
was a double tire.
It was a big truck moving allour stuff and I was like, holy
fuck, like it was just me and mymom and my dad and my sisters
were in the Tarago van with allof our shit in that.
You were like following thetruck, yeah.
So they were behind us somewhatand I was like, fuck, we're a
(16:01):
bit stuck here.
Anyway, my dad had shown me howto change a tire and I'm like,
well, fuck, like it's just abigger, harder version of that,
right.
So I'm just like trying tolever this steel fucking mud
flap out and trying to You'rechanging a truck tire, I'm
changing a truck tire Right onWith this crazy jack, yeah, this
crazy jack that I had to crankfor like half an hour to get it
high enough.
But then this elderly couplecame, just pulled up.
(16:24):
They're like oh, you didn'tspot a bother.
And we're like yeah, they'relike okay.
And they like pulled out theselittle witch's hats.
They had a fucking picnicbasket.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
They made my mom a cup of tea, like had a little
thermos and shit, got a littlefold-out chair.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
They were just like.
I think they were even olderthan boomers.
I think my parents are boomers,like whatever the greatest
generation was.
That's who they are, you know.
Yeah, like they were, they werethe.
They fought world war ii.
Um, they were so prepared, bro,so something that was a very
stressful situation.
It's still kind of stressfulfor me, but my mom was like
pulled up in the camper chaircup of tea.
They gave her a sandwich andshit and I was like wow, but I
(17:00):
like I was like I'll take asnack anyway, got this fucking
tire off, got another tire on,like I was actually able to
change the tire because my dadfucking showed me how, and if no
one's ever showed you how youare fucked, yeah.
But the benefit I think in whatwe do, joe, in terms of like
bulletproof, is not only are wegoing to pull up on the side of
the road and give you a sandwichand, you know, help you out and
(17:23):
make you feel better aboutbeing in a bad spot, we teach
you to fix your own tire.
Yeah, and this is the thing forthe best part, not everyone's
got the money and, you know, noteveryone's got the resources to
have a full team.
You have to become your ownteam, and so, in so doing, you
do need to learn about how torehab your knee.
You do have to learn about whatare the right stretches.
(17:45):
You do have to learn aboutthese different ways of
maintaining yourself.
So, even though it might takean initial investment to train
with a trainer and learn thetechniques or whatever else like
that, you do have to becomequite self-sufficient as a
jujitsu person.
So, if you don't, because asmany people out there are like I
don't have money for that.
That's 150 bucks.
(18:06):
But in the long term it savesyou money by investing on
learning how to look after yourshit.
I think that's also anotherelement of this idea of team.
When you become more capable,when catastrophe strikes, you
can deal with it a bit more,even though it does help to have
folks giving you advice andkind of coming in to help make
(18:27):
the experience less traumatic.
Ultimately it will be you whohas to do the rehab, it will be
you who has to do the stretches,it will be you who has to look
after yourself, on the advice ofthese team members.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Yeah, your team allows you to build up your base
of knowledge about how to lookafter yourself and it's quite
incredible after you've I mean,even for folks who have been
grappling for a few years andcopped a couple of injuries they
can probably think back tomaybe how much they didn't know
about injuries and rehab and andstuff prior to doing jiu-jitsu.
(19:00):
And now they've been throughthat.
Like actually, yeah, I didlearn something when I went
through that whole fuckingshoulder thing last year.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
So, yeah, those sort of having those allies helps you
to become a smarter uh, asmarter operator in this fucking
realm of athleticism, whereinjury is just a part of the
thing for sure, and so, knowingthat your time is limited, you
need to stay on track to get themost out of your jiu-jitsu.
You do need help, you do needto learn more, and really, by
(19:28):
doing that, you're controllingthe controllables, and that
means you can have a better timeon the mat.
A good martial artist does not become tense but ready
.
Essentially, at this point thefight is over, so you pretty
much flow with the goal.
Who is worthy to be trustedwith the secret to limitless
power?
Speaker 2 (00:27):
I'm ready.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Are you racing your jiu-jitsu race with an F1 team
behind you, or are you solo,stuck on the side of the road in
a broken down Tarago?
This is a question becausemartial arts is a solo pursuit,
but you need a coach, you needtraining partners, you need a
team, you need support.
To be successful in BJJ and anyother martial arts pursuit,
(00:57):
even though it's solo, you needa team and we need to talk about
a different kind of team that'sgoing to make sure you stay in
the Jiu-Jitsu game.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Just on that team thing, is there a little bit of
a?
Um, there's maybe a little bitof a romance in jiu-jitsu about
doing it like the lone wolf, theronin yeah, yeah, solo samurai.
Yeah, like you know, like, um,like you know, and and of course
, like maybe craig jones had abit of that in his not story.
No, I mean, he didn't actuallyright, he had coaches, but from
(01:25):
what you see and what peopleprobably know, it can appear as
though, oh, like he was kind ofa lone guy fighting against the
big team.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
No, I think that's a misconception.
I mean, I don't even buy thatin any way, shape or form.
I think Craig.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
No, no, no, I'm saying that there is.
I'm not saying that that'sactually what happened, but I'm
saying that maybe that's part ofthe story a little bit.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Maybe I think, if we look at the history of martial
arts, that yes, you could getsomeone like Miyamoto Musashi,
who was like I depend on me, Idepend on no one else.
Whatever, he still had militarytraining right.
He's still like, even though hewas like an odyssey in himself,
he still trained in themilitary and then he formed his
(02:09):
own conclusions.
He did a bunch of self-reliancestuff.
But when it comes to BJJ, youneed training partners.
You can't just kill everyoneyou meet Like.
You're not going to get a lotbetter that way and if we look
at not even the importance ofyour lineage, you still need
someone who knows you to knowhow to help you as much as you
(02:31):
can be independent and form yourown ideas.
Everybody needs a bit offeedback.
So step one is like having acoach right, like that's so
important and we accept that.
I think in jujitsu it'saccepted that you need somebody
who you learn from and thatmight change over time.
But you don't come into thegame knowing everything and even
though you might learn reallyquickly and your coaches may
(02:52):
evolve, you might start withyour coach and then you might go
train at a bigger team.
Bigger team, you travelinternationally, you learn from
everyone you train with.
But essentially, you can'tdevelop as an individual without
opponents and training partners.
Yeah, so it's very acceptedthat you've got a coach, you've
got training partners you workwith, and when we look at the
concentrations of teams whetherit be New Wave or it'd be Atos
(03:17):
or B-Team or Absolute MMA orwhatever your chosen
concentration of martial artistsis, having good people around
you helps you in a lot of ways,because it shortcuts a lot of
learnings.
Yeah, and so we know that.
We know that.
But now the team we're going totalk about right here isn't
(03:37):
necessarily just your martialarts team, the trainer, et
cetera we're talking about.
Do you have a personal trainer?
Because we know there's peopleout there that have S&C coaches
and the elite level jujitsuathletes like Andy Murasaki, or
I mean even the B-team guys.
Who's Andy Murasaki?
(03:58):
Andy Murasaki, actually, Ithink he might have got silver
at the recent WorldChampionships.
He is one of the top levelblack belts in the world who has
an elite level strengthconditioning coach and does
elite level strengthconditioning.
Ah, right on, like we look atthe Atos guys, right, they got
Alex um from Electron.
Yeah, and so when you don'tknow what to do but you want to
(04:19):
get good at something, you needhelp, you know, and this is what
we do, right, if you like.
For me, I'm not a handy guy.
I'll be completely honest asmuch as I like to think that I
could fucking pick up some toolsand fix some shit, if I can pay
someone to do it, I will,because I don't want to fuck
around and waste time.
I also don't want to flood mykitchen, break my car.
(04:41):
I really in those realms of mylife, I don't want to fuck
around and find out.
I want to find someone whoknows and get help, because it
saves me time, right?
I don't want to waste time and Ithink this is where you know
getting a personal trainer,finding a physio who can help
you with your injuries, findinga doctor who gets jujitsu Like
(05:02):
they're not going to misdiagnoseyour staff infection as a
spider bite and you end up withfucking medical resistance staff
Like I think it's so importantto find people who are your
allies that help keep you on thetrack of jujitsu.
And you, you, you've gonethrough a process of uh, even
though we we both have contacts,um, in the health and fitness
(05:23):
industry, joee, you've had towork through your own process of
finding appropriate people tohelp you yeah, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
You always like it comes out of necessity, doesn't
it?
When you, when you cop aninjury or you've got something
that is not immediately resolved, like you go to one, you go to
a doctor and they tell you likefuck, that didn't help.
And you go to a fucking physioand that didn't help.
And so you start to realize,man, I really fucking need
someone that just knows what Ido.
They get it and you know islike fucking with it.
(05:52):
And yeah, like there's a lotright that you're looking for.
But when you find that person,you're like that person is
that's exactly who I'm lookingfor, my guy, and I'm going to
keep that person close.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Yeah, and this is the thing that is probably not
spoken about enough in jujitsuis that you do need more than
one person Like as much as youmight have someone who's super
(06:24):
reliable, your kind of go-tobest mate with the advice,
whether it be you know, like weall have someone who's like
really good at technology.
So you've got a mate and you'relike man, I've got this problem
with my fucking laptop,whatever it's like oh, it's easy
, you just do this.
Or you've got a mate who'sreally good at cars, just
obsessed with cars, so you'relike can you fucking have a look
?
What the fuck's going on here?
So having someone who is veryreliable, understands jiu-j, can
help you.
He's going to save you a lot offucking time when you break
(06:46):
down.
And the reason why I wanted tobring this up is I'm not really
a fan of F1.
But I was admiring theefficiency of an F1 team to
fucking get a car back on track.
So this guy's tire blew out.
He pulls in and within I think15 seconds this guy is fucking
(07:07):
sorted and back on the trackthat fast.
And honestly you're like, how'sthat possible?
They've got 20 guys going nutsmaking sure everything's perfect
and there's millions of dollarsthere.
But Jiu-Jitsu is the same andyou have a limited amount of
time in the game in Jiu-Jitsu.
So how much time you spendstuck on the side of the fucking
highway with no help will limithow much time you get spend
(07:30):
back on the road.
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
yeah, I mean those, those instances when you don't,
when you don't have the team forthe specific problem, right,
like you don't have someone togo and see about your bad
shoulder it costs you weeks,pain, months of pain and shitty
training and frustration,because you're like, ah, I went
and saw someone but they weren'tfucking very helpful and
(07:52):
trained it.
You know, it's just this, thiswhole, whereas when you got that
person, you fucking go therethe next day, you get the
information you need and you'reon track.
You know on track makes you,makes you understand where this
terminology comes from, doesn'tit?
Yes, sir, it does, but um, butit does, but it really is
invaluable.
And I think it's only whenyou're faced with the dilemma of
, oh my God, I actually don'tfucking know who to go and see
about this right that you reallycome to appreciate.
(08:15):
I wish I could not be stuck inthis fucking dilemma.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Yeah, and look, the reason why I talk about this is
because I've made all thefucking mistakes.
I'm not saying this because, oh, I'm so superior, I've got it
all worked out.
The amount of time I've wastedin a fucked situation because I
didn't know better, it makes mecringe now.
So I've been that person brokendown on the side of the highway
, didn't have a spare tire, orit wasn't pumped up, or I didn't
(08:40):
know what was wrong with my car.
But how good is it, when you'vepaid for the insurance, to have
the roadside assistance?
They come, they show up, theyfix it for you, they tell you
what's up and, fuck, you're backon the road.
Yeah, wow, that's great, I'mback in the race, baby Back,
fucking ring, ring, and so, yeah, just fucking burnouts in the
Taraga.
Yeah, but that's the thing aboutthis idea of being broken down.
(09:03):
Obviously, this idea of beingbroken down, obviously you don't
stop living your life.
You're not just parked, you'reparked in terms of you can't do
jiu-jitsu, but you're stillbattling along with the fucking
flat tire in life.
But this makes your experienceof life way more miserable.
Yeah, yeah, like I think thisis the thing that we
underestimate, that that injuryyou caught at jiu-jitsu turns
(09:24):
into like kind of downgradingthe the goodness in the
experience of life off the mat.
Yeah, and, and we just don't,um, we don't really realize what
that costs us in terms of justhappiness.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
I mean, we're our own worst enemy with, with that
shit too.
Like, um, I had theconversation with with, uh, my
lady the other day where youknow she's had this ongoing kind
of shoulder pain and you knowit comes up quite often and you
know it's like how's it going?
It's a little bit better today,oh, not so great today.
And I was like you know, whatare we doing at the gym?
(10:00):
She's like, oh, working on someshit and working on some muscle
ups and stuff.
And I was like like how many ofthose you're doing it's like,
you know, like singles, and I'mlike you shouldn't be doing that
, like you gotta fuck shoulder.
And then, but it's like, butwhy like?
It's like you know, and I'mlike, well, all right, fuck.
And so I threw the book at her.
I was like it's true range.
Shoulder extension.
(10:21):
It is maximal loading, it's um,it's loading.
You're going into a passiveposition under full load.
Yeah, I'm just like it'sbasically all of the things you
shouldn't be doing when you havea fucking injury in that
particular joint.
And you know, I think she's abit fucking, just kind of
spewing that.
It's like, oh, why do we haveto have this conversation?
Jeez man.
(10:42):
But you know, but if we stepback, step back from, it's like
like weeks, maybe months, oftalking about it.
So months where it's been athing, yeah, months where in
training it's been on her mind,it's been affecting the quality
of the training session.
Yeah, right, I'm hoping thatthis is talking to you grapplers
out there that you're like, yep, I'm fucking on the mats, I'm
(11:02):
rolling and I'm telling mypartner, oh, my shoulder's still
fucked, oh, my knee's still abit, whatever, yeah.
And then it's like cunt, if youjust fucking went and did
something about it, like went,found that person, paid them 120
bucks, got an assessment, gotsome exercises, started doing
them, this is all gone andyou're just on the fucking road
to recovery, yeah, you know, andyou're not spending months on
(11:24):
like subpar training sessionsand frustration and just feeling
like shit you're trying to getstronger for jujitsu and you're
not sure how we've got the thingfor you.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
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Like, why would you?
No one, I think none of us.
If someone gave you the option,they're like look, you're going
to feel like shit for sixmonths, you're going to be in
pain and your jiu-jitsu is goingto suck.
Or you can spend a bit of money, take a bit of time, a little
(12:17):
bit of discomfort in the shortterm, but you're back on the
mats in two months and you feelgreat.
Which would you choose?
Now?
I'm the person who I beforebeing kind of a broke-ass
jiu-jitsu athlete, didn't paymoney for that you know how you
get the wheelbarrow.
We talked about the wheelbarrowwheel, like when you've got the
, you got a spare tire.
But it's this little, don't goover.
(12:39):
Oh, the cheese, cutter thecheese cutter wheel and you're
just like you even feel yourcars on a bit of a slant when
you're driving like.
So, having gone through thatexperience and it being very
immature in my approach to carmaintenance, all that shit, Now
being an adult and having gonethrough the fuckery and being
like, nah, actually I'm going topay the extra money to have a
(12:59):
proper extra tire.
It is pumped.
I've paid for the best tires.
I pay the premium on theroadside assistance so that if
I'm stuck in the middle ofnowhere I can get towed.
You know, a hundred kilometersand it doesn't cost me anything.
Like by investing in theassistance, I've saved myself so
(13:20):
much stress.
When the shit goes down, yeah,and that's the thing we don't
really realize how fucked it canget until the shit goes down.
You know, and we want you to beprepared, Like not only do we
want you to improve yourexperience of jujitsu and life
and bouncing back, getting backon track, but it's also like we
don't want anyone to be stuck inthat shit spot.
(13:41):
You know, you regularly see it,and what the good thing is
about being prepared is you'renot as shocked when it happens.
But when you're not prepared,it's catastrophic.
Yeah, you know.
Like you're not prepared, it'scatastrophic.
Yeah, you know like you'rereally.
You're really in fuck town.
And so give an example.
(14:01):
When I was a teenager, we movedto Dubbo and we had hired a
truck to pull our stuff in there.
Why'd you move there?
By the way, my mom got a job asa course coordinator for TAFE.
It was like a very seniorposition, really good for her
career, and so we moved out toDubbo.
Fuck, that was informative.
How old were you?
(14:21):
I was 14.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Right on, oh shit.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Yeah, bro, it was a tough time.
City kid, when I say cityPenrith, western Sydney kid
Living in the country, mate, itwas a harsh adjustment.
Yeah, wow, I definitely had tobite down a little bit.
I got in more fights in thatone year than any other time in
my teenage life.
Oh wow, I got punched in theface so much.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Right, it was wild.
I probably got end up like 140detentions for fighting.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Really.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Yeah, jesus, I didn't even start them.
If you talk too much, you getpunched in the face.
Were you a big talker back then?
I was Hard to imagine, but Italk less now than I used to.
You probably deserve some ofthose punches, maybe some, maybe
some.
But right, I wasn't, I was justtrying to make friends.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Yeah, wow, oh, that's fucked on the weekend I went to
the movies.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
No, you didn't use big note, shut up, bang, yeah,
basically.
Yeah, dude, I'm just defendingmyself.
You know it was a tough time,but, um, it definitely helped
open my eyes up and, uh, closemy mouth.
But, um, so what happened wasthe the higher truck had retread
.
So this is when the the truckcompany's like, oh, we don't
want to buy new tires, oh yeah,we'll just glue on this tread.
And the retread had worn thinand it whipped off and fucking
(15:39):
pulled the mud flap, steel mudflap into the tire, and so it
was a double tire.
It was a big truck moving allour stuff and I was like, holy
fuck, like it was just me and mymom and my dad and my sisters
were in the Tarago van with allof our shit in that.
You were like following thetruck, yeah.
So they were behind us somewhatand I was like, fuck, we're a
(16:01):
bit stuck here.
Anyway, my dad had shown me howto change a tire and I'm like,
well, fuck, like it's just abigger, harder version of that,
right.
So I'm just like trying tolever this steel fucking mud
flap out and trying to You'rechanging a truck tire, I'm
changing a truck tire Right onWith this crazy jack, yeah, this
crazy jack that I had to crankfor like half an hour to get it
high enough.
But then this elderly couplecame, just pulled up.
(16:24):
They're like oh, you didn'tspot a bother.
And we're like yeah, they'relike okay.
And they like pulled out theselittle witch's hats.
They had a fucking picnicbasket.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
They made my mom a cup of tea, like had a little
thermos and shit, got a littlefold-out chair.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
They were just like.
I think they were even olderthan boomers.
I think my parents are boomers,like whatever the greatest
generation was.
That's who they are, you know.
Yeah, like they were, they werethe.
They fought world war ii.
Um, they were so prepared, bro,so something that was a very
stressful situation.
It's still kind of stressfulfor me, but my mom was like
pulled up in the camper chaircup of tea.
They gave her a sandwich andshit and I was like wow, but I
(17:00):
like I was like I'll take asnack anyway, got this fucking
tire off, got another tire on,like I was actually able to
change the tire because my dadfucking showed me how, and if no
one's ever showed you how youare fucked, yeah.
But the benefit I think in whatwe do, joe, in terms of like
bulletproof, is not only are wegoing to pull up on the side of
the road and give you a sandwichand, you know, help you out and
(17:23):
make you feel better aboutbeing in a bad spot, we teach
you to fix your own tire.
Yeah, and this is the thing forthe best part, not everyone's
got the money and, you know, noteveryone's got the resources to
have a full team.
You have to become your ownteam, and so, in so doing, you
do need to learn about how torehab your knee.
You do have to learn about whatare the right stretches.
(17:45):
You do have to learn aboutthese different ways of
maintaining yourself.
So, even though it might takean initial investment to train
with a trainer and learn thetechniques or whatever else like
that, you do have to becomequite self-sufficient as a
jujitsu person.
So, if you don't, because asmany people out there are like I
don't have money for that.
That's 150 bucks.
(18:06):
But in the long term it savesyou money by investing on
learning how to look after yourshit.
I think that's also anotherelement of this idea of team.
When you become more capable,when catastrophe strikes, you
can deal with it a bit more,even though it does help to have
folks giving you advice andkind of coming in to help make
(18:27):
the experience less traumatic.
Ultimately it will be you whohas to do the rehab, it will be
you who has to do the stretches,it will be you who has to look
after yourself, on the advice ofthese team members.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Yeah, your team allows you to build up your base
of knowledge about how to lookafter yourself and it's quite
incredible after you've I mean,even for folks who have been
grappling for a few years andcopped a couple of injuries they
can probably think back tomaybe how much they didn't know
about injuries and rehab and andstuff prior to doing jiu-jitsu.
(19:00):
And now they've been throughthat.
Like actually, yeah, I didlearn something when I went
through that whole fuckingshoulder thing last year.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
So, yeah, those sort of having those allies helps you
to become a smarter uh, asmarter operator in this fucking
realm of athleticism, whereinjury is just a part of the
thing for sure, and so, knowingthat your time is limited, you
need to stay on track to get themost out of your jiu-jitsu.
You do need help, you do needto learn more, and really, by
(19:28):
doing that, you're controllingthe controllables, and that
means you can have a better timeon the mat.
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