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Speaker 2 (00:10):
A good martial artist does not become tense but ready
.
Essentially, at this point thefight is over.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
So you pretty much flow with the goal who is worthy
to be trusted with the secretto limitless power?
I'm ready.
Bjj is destroying your body,but that's why you should keep
on training.
You got to keep going.
(00:40):
We've got to talk about itbecause a lot of us suffer and
we have this little debate inour mind Should I quit?
Should I keep going?
Is it worth it?
And something came up, joe, andyou were mentioning this before
.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Yeah, so like our viewpoint, right where you know
we're a couple of jocks,obviously and generally.
I mean at least for myself, can, can't speak for jt, but logic
prevails and um they had todon't cuss aspersions.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
I mean.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Logic never prevails but so you know.
So it's often like we're we'relooking at it from a sort of
scientific standpoint of like,well, you know, if something's
causing you damage, you shouldprobably stop doing the thing
right.
And so, in that sort of simplealgorithm, there's a lot of
people out there that probablyjust shouldn't train jujitsu
(01:31):
right, because it really doesfuck up like it really does
cause a lot of damage for a lotof people.
Sure, now, not everyoneexperiences this, and for some
people it's more problematicthan others.
But, as we know, right, this isa dilemma that any grappler
faces, of like, sometimes youget injured, sometimes you're on
a run of injuries and you'rejust like, fuck, I'm actually
(01:52):
really frustrated with thisthing.
Should I keep going, right?
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Yeah, mention the story.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Yeah, so I was having a conversation with a good
friend of mine.
Shout out to Mary she's aCrossFitter Right Now, friend of
mine.
Shout out to mary uh she's acrossfitter right now don't hold
against her, you know, hey, weall know one, they're people too
.
Yes, you know and and actuallythey're quite like us, they like
doing this thing.
That is kind of likeself-punishment like they take
(02:18):
pleasure in it yeah they gothere, they they pay to go to a
place where they get to suffer,yeah you know.
And then, and then there's thisbeautiful shared um sufferance,
togetherness, yeah, andeveryone's like fuck, how good's
this, you know?
And so, um, so, mary, she's gotfucked up knees right and uh,
whatever lifetime of trainingand lifting heavy weights and
doing the whole shit.
And um, she, you know, she'shistorically had bad knees as
(02:44):
long as I've known her, and shewe're hanging out the other day
and she's like joey, what do you?
think she's like my kneesthey're fucked and I'm like I
think you should stop crossfitand she's like fuck, but I but
like I love it and I'm like,yeah, but what do you like?
You know, like what do you like?
(03:04):
Um, talk to me about the kneesand she's like they fucking hurt
all the time.
One of them is is really bad.
I can't run, I can't squatbelow parallel.
Um, you know.
So everything I'm doing in thegym is like modified, I can't, I
can't do back squats, you knowso she just does deadlifts and
like power snatches and cleansand stuff.
Yep, because you don't go deep,obviously, sure.
(03:26):
And, um, I'm like, yeah, so youkind of really only doing half,
like you can't even really doCrossFit.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Yeah, right.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
You're doing like a modified and she's like, yeah,
you know, and I was like, yeah,look, I mean I hate to be the
bearer of bad news, but all yourfriends are CrossFitters.
Yeah, I'm probably the onlyperson that's going to look some
bodybuilding.
Maybe you should just, you know, like walk, do some isolation
(03:53):
work.
You know, still do your Olympicstuff, but like being in that
class environment where, okay,you're modifying the exercises
but still you're still gettingsucked into it a little bit,
You're still probably doing, youknow, some high rep shit.
You're probably still doingsome fucked up stuff in the
warmups, like that stuff for youis problematic, right, well,
it's it's kind of one size fitsall.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Right.
A WOD isn't there to be, eventhough there's the RX component
you know scalability.
At the end of the day, you haveto go and be a part of the
thing, yeah, and if you've got aspecific injury, that's not
really factored in.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
So and and much the same as jujitsu, right where you
can like, despite your bestefforts, when it comes time to
roll and you know you shouldn't,and then the coach is like you
can roll to it and you're likeoh yeah, fuck it, I'll just go
easy.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Yeah, just go light.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
You can't help but bias in all the time, you know.
So, anyway, she's like I hadsome scans done.
I'm going to wait until I getthe results of my scans and then
let's talk more.
Okay, so I saw her this weekand she's like got the results
of my scans and I'm like whatdid it show?
And she's like torn meniscusand then no meniscus, both.
She had the meniscus removedlike 15 years, 20 years ago, and
(05:01):
she's like arthritis on both.
And I'm like, wow, that soundspretty hectic, you know.
And so, anyway, where theconversation went after that was
like what is it about CrossFit,besides the training that
matters most to you?
And obviously there was a wholebunch of oh, it's the people
and it's the fucking communityand it's I just fucking love it
(05:22):
and I feel so good and I lovebeing coached.
I love a coach that like cracksthe whip.
And you know, and you, you know, what we arrived at was that
there's this whole myriad ofbenefits that she gets from it,
that, despite the daily pain andthe fucking sore knees and I'm
sure there's anti-inflammatoriesin there and modified workouts
and all the shit still outweighsthe negatives.
(05:43):
Right, the juice is worth thesqueeze, and um, and I, and I
thought you know, like, ofcourse, my, my like, and I
understood that when I offeredher my opinion, I knew she
wasn't going to quit, but I'mlike you should consider this,
um, but I think there's justsomething interesting in that to
be like for a grappler toreflect on, like, yeah, there
(06:05):
might be a time when it feelslike the juice isn't worth the
squeeze and maybe it's not.
Maybe it's not, maybe youshould quit or maybe you should
take a break, but you know,potentially, wait it out for a
little bit, let it simmer back,and then maybe the time comes
again, it returns where thejuice is worth the squeeze.
And you're like you know what,even though I can't train
(06:26):
jiu-jitsu exactly the way I wantto be and be the fucking the
Andrew Tackett that I wish to be.
It's okay, I still fucking thisthing gives me so much value in
my life.
Yeah, I, I, I.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
I hear that for sure, and I, I think, for most part.
My friends, I am here to saveyou time.
I do not want you to waste timedrinking Gatorade Powerade or
any other sub optimalelectrolyte drink.
You know why it's just sugar.
I do not want you to waste timedrinking Gatorade Powerade or
any other sub-optimalelectrolyte drink.
You know why it's just sugar.
I have the answer for you.
My friends, it is Sodi, thesponsor of today's show.
Sodi is the perfect mix ofsodium, potassium and magnesium,
(07:02):
and those are the salts thatmake your muscles work, so you
can choke a fool.
Also, it's delicious and whenyou go to sodicomau and use the
code BULLETPROOF15, you get 15%off.
So what are you waiting for?
Get the hydration, get theelectrolytes and get choking
fools today.
(07:24):
Any great gym it doesn't matterif it's CrossFit or it's
powerlifting or it's jiu-jitsu,whatever it might be you do
kickboxing.
The sense of belonging is sostrong If it's a good group of
people and they're your friendsand you've done tournaments
together or you've done the opentogether or whatever it is.
The bonds you've formed and theexperiences you've shared are
(07:45):
not replicatable in any otherway.
Really, like sure, you might beclose with your workmates or
whatever, but it's just not thesame.
I think you know they say oftenlike the lessons you learn the
hard way are the ones thatreally stick.
And so getting injured,suffering a lot, all these
things that really hardwires inemotion and in in the body, in
(08:07):
the feeling of it, thoseexperiences, and you remember
who was around you, uh, whetheryou loved them or not, like we
were together, and you knowwe've talked about it before.
The togetherness thing is,sometimes it could feel very
like, like I don't, I can't, Ican't touch that feeling in any
other situation and that's whypeople do stick with the
(08:27):
suffering.
And yeah, jujitsu, I think, isbig enough in its skill scope.
You can work around your shitLike.
You know, like not that youwill necessarily performing
jujitsu to its fullest extent,but I think it's big enough that
even if you've got like we'reseeing, I would say, a lot of
(08:49):
folks coming to no gi, like eventhough we said it might favor a
younger athletic person well,if your fingers are all busted
up from judo or gripping the giand you're like, well, I don't
have to grip the gi now.
My hands don't hurt so much, Ican keep that going.
You know there's there's lotsof ways.
I don't get stuck in worm guardhere yeah, I'm not getting, I'm
not getting twisted up, youknow, like in lasso or whatever
(09:10):
it might be.
So I think there's more roomfor reinvention as a grappler
within the world of grapplingand jujitsu than, say, crossfit.
Like if you can't lock outoverhead, that takes away a huge
part of what CrossFit is right.
In the same way, if you can'tsquat below 90, it takes that
away.
Whereas in jujitsu we've seenit we see people who are in
(09:33):
black belts and brown belts, whodon't have their full physical
function but still roll quitewell based on the game they've
built around their limits.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Yeah, I mean in a sense like jiu-jitsu is endless
in that regard, I mean, CrossFitis basically five exercises
that just get recycled intodifferent formats, and so those
cunts they love that shit.
Yeah, for sure Today.
So those cunts sign up, theylove that shit.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Wait, today we did the burpees before the
kettlebell swings oh what?
And then we ran around theblock.
You're like fuck that's so good.
Kipping handstand pushups socreative.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
But no for sure, and I think that this is the most
confronting thing with anythingyou do in your life is you're
constantly doing this little.
Is it worth it?
Is it worth it, you know, likea business, a relationship.
You're like man.
It was so shit today, but thenyou have these moments of just
the best, the best feeling youcould feel all day, all year.
(10:27):
Whatever you have those moments, you're like this makes it all
worth it, whatever that lookslike.
So you're like this makes itall worth it, whatever that
looks like.
And I think what I've seen atleast is parents who get their
kids into jujitsu.
They're now like they're asmuch in it for their kids as
they are for them.
Yeah, you know.
So seeing their kid get theirfirst stripe or seeing their kid
(10:48):
win a tournament, they're soproud and it just fills their
cup so much.
Don't even really give a fuckabout how bad their knees or
their shoulders are.
They're like I'll just keepgoing because I want to stay
connected to this, this, thisfeeling of um, yeah, of just a
personal expression or whateverit might be, you know.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Yeah, and I mean I think you know like we see those
stories a lot, right, I was attom de blas posted about.
Was it him posted about one ofhis students who, oh no, or was
it uh, rafael levato, whobasically his fucking legs don't
work his knees are knees arebuckled.
He's on a wheelchair, I thinkand but he drags himself, he
wheels up to the side of the matone of the students yeah, yeah,
(11:29):
and then just fucking grapplesreal hard.
Yeah, despite these cripplingand and and I don't my
impression was it was notbecause he had suffered like.
It was not because he had, likeyou know, he was disabled in
some way or incapacitated, butit was more.
Just he'd fucked his knees upso much from training that now
he couldn't use them.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
And so you look at that and you're like
Self-inflicted disability, yeahand you're like, oh, because I
don't abide that I don't know.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
But obviously the dude's like no man juice is
worth the squeeze.
You're like, all right, fuck,do it.
Who am I to say otherwise?
But I think our general messageis you don't want to end up
completely destroying yourselfat all costs, right yourself at
all costs, right, but, um, butit's, you know.
Yeah, I think it's good toreflect on.
There is, there is something inthat because, well, fuck you,
(12:18):
you're going to cop damage,right, you are.
Life's going to, life's goingto fucking hammer you in many
ways.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
It is.
But I think what we're probablygetting to here, which is
probably as important asanything, is, even when you do
cop an injury, staying connectedis key, like that's.
That's kind of part of thehealing process.
It's not just healing the jointitself.
It's that people often whenthey get injured, they feel
disassociated, they feel like,oh, I've, I'm not part of my
group anymore.
And you know, the thing that weknow, we know with our own
(12:49):
community, is like once you copyour first serious injury and
you've joined the family, you'vejoined the jujitsu family,
which is injury town.
But your ability, um, you knowand there's a lot of research
around this to show that yourlongevity in terms of mental and
physical health has a lot to dowith your connections.
(13:10):
So to get isolated or toseparate yourself, um, is
actually not going to help anyhealing you might achieve.
So if there's a way for you tostay connected with your people,
it doesn't mean you have to dojiu-jitsu when you're injured.
But I believe maintaining theconnection, however you do that
over time, means you're going tohave a healthier life across a
(13:33):
broader spectrum.
We might say, oh yeah, spectrumjiu-jitsu.
So this is the hardest thing,because there's so many days
that make you want to quit, evenif you're not injured.
But staying, the ability tostay connected to people you
care about, I think is greaterthan the pain you can suffer as
(13:56):
an individual.
Yeah, so you get the rightbalance on that and then, yeah,
staying connected is the keythere.
It is, yes, stay connectedfolks.
This is the way.
This is the way.
A good martial artist does not become tense but ready
.
Essentially, at this point thefight is over.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
So you pretty much flow with the goal who is worthy
to be trusted with the secretto limitless power?
I'm ready.
Bjj is destroying your body,but that's why you should keep
on training.
You got to keep going.
(00:40):
We've got to talk about itbecause a lot of us suffer and
we have this little debate inour mind Should I quit?
Should I keep going?
Is it worth it?
And something came up, joe, andyou were mentioning this before
.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Yeah, so like our viewpoint, right where you know
we're a couple of jocks,obviously and generally.
I mean at least for myself, can, can't speak for jt, but logic
prevails and um they had todon't cuss aspersions.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
I mean.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Logic never prevails but so you know.
So it's often like we're we'relooking at it from a sort of
scientific standpoint of like,well, you know, if something's
causing you damage, you shouldprobably stop doing the thing
right.
And so, in that sort of simplealgorithm, there's a lot of
people out there that probablyjust shouldn't train jujitsu
(01:31):
right, because it really doesfuck up like it really does
cause a lot of damage for a lotof people.
Sure, now, not everyoneexperiences this, and for some
people it's more problematicthan others.
But, as we know, right, this isa dilemma that any grappler
faces, of like, sometimes youget injured, sometimes you're on
a run of injuries and you'rejust like, fuck, I'm actually
(01:52):
really frustrated with thisthing.
Should I keep going, right?
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Yeah, mention the story.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Yeah, so I was having a conversation with a good
friend of mine.
Shout out to Mary she's aCrossFitter Right Now, friend of
mine.
Shout out to mary uh she's acrossfitter right now don't hold
against her, you know, hey, weall know one, they're people too
.
Yes, you know and and actuallythey're quite like us, they like
doing this thing.
That is kind of likeself-punishment like they take
(02:18):
pleasure in it yeah they gothere, they they pay to go to a
place where they get to suffer,yeah you know.
And then, and then there's thisbeautiful shared um sufferance,
togetherness, yeah, andeveryone's like fuck, how good's
this, you know?
And so, um, so, mary, she's gotfucked up knees right and uh,
whatever lifetime of trainingand lifting heavy weights and
doing the whole shit.
And um, she, you know, she'shistorically had bad knees as
(02:44):
long as I've known her, and shewe're hanging out the other day
and she's like joey, what do you?
think she's like my kneesthey're fucked and I'm like I
think you should stop crossfitand she's like fuck, but I but
like I love it and I'm like,yeah, but what do you like?
You know, like what do you like?
(03:04):
Um, talk to me about the kneesand she's like they fucking hurt
all the time.
One of them is is really bad.
I can't run, I can't squatbelow parallel.
Um, you know.
So everything I'm doing in thegym is like modified, I can't, I
can't do back squats, you knowso she just does deadlifts and
like power snatches and cleansand stuff.
Yep, because you don't go deep,obviously, sure.
(03:26):
And, um, I'm like, yeah, so youkind of really only doing half,
like you can't even really doCrossFit.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Yeah, right.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
You're doing like a modified and she's like, yeah,
you know, and I was like, yeah,look, I mean I hate to be the
bearer of bad news, but all yourfriends are CrossFitters.
Yeah, I'm probably the onlyperson that's going to look some
bodybuilding.
Maybe you should just, you know, like walk, do some isolation
(03:53):
work.
You know, still do your Olympicstuff, but like being in that
class environment where, okay,you're modifying the exercises
but still you're still gettingsucked into it a little bit,
You're still probably doing, youknow, some high rep shit.
You're probably still doingsome fucked up stuff in the
warmups, like that stuff for youis problematic, right, well,
it's it's kind of one size fitsall.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Right.
A WOD isn't there to be, eventhough there's the RX component
you know scalability.
At the end of the day, you haveto go and be a part of the
thing, yeah, and if you've got aspecific injury, that's not
really factored in.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
So and and much the same as jujitsu, right where you
can like, despite your bestefforts, when it comes time to
roll and you know you shouldn't,and then the coach is like you
can roll to it and you're likeoh yeah, fuck it, I'll just go
easy.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Yeah, just go light.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
You can't help but bias in all the time, you know.
So, anyway, she's like I hadsome scans done.
I'm going to wait until I getthe results of my scans and then
let's talk more.
Okay, so I saw her this weekand she's like got the results
of my scans and I'm like whatdid it show?
And she's like torn meniscusand then no meniscus, both.
She had the meniscus removedlike 15 years, 20 years ago, and
(05:01):
she's like arthritis on both.
And I'm like, wow, that soundspretty hectic, you know.
And so, anyway, where theconversation went after that was
like what is it about CrossFit,besides the training that
matters most to you?
And obviously there was a wholebunch of oh, it's the people
and it's the fucking communityand it's I just fucking love it
(05:22):
and I feel so good and I lovebeing coached.
I love a coach that like cracksthe whip.
And you know, and you, you know, what we arrived at was that
there's this whole myriad ofbenefits that she gets from it,
that, despite the daily pain andthe fucking sore knees and I'm
sure there's anti-inflammatoriesin there and modified workouts
and all the shit still outweighsthe negatives.
(05:43):
Right, the juice is worth thesqueeze, and um, and I, and I
thought you know, like, ofcourse, my, my like, and I
understood that when I offeredher my opinion, I knew she
wasn't going to quit, but I'mlike you should consider this,
um, but I think there's justsomething interesting in that to
be like for a grappler toreflect on, like, yeah, there
(06:05):
might be a time when it feelslike the juice isn't worth the
squeeze and maybe it's not.
Maybe it's not, maybe youshould quit or maybe you should
take a break, but you know,potentially, wait it out for a
little bit, let it simmer back,and then maybe the time comes
again, it returns where thejuice is worth the squeeze.
And you're like you know what,even though I can't train
(06:26):
jiu-jitsu exactly the way I wantto be and be the fucking the
Andrew Tackett that I wish to be.
It's okay, I still fucking thisthing gives me so much value in
my life.
Yeah, I, I, I.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
I hear that for sure, and I, I think, for most part.
My friends, I am here to saveyou time.
I do not want you to waste timedrinking Gatorade Powerade or
any other sub optimalelectrolyte drink.
You know why it's just sugar.
I do not want you to waste timedrinking Gatorade Powerade or
any other sub-optimalelectrolyte drink.
You know why it's just sugar.
I have the answer for you.
My friends, it is Sodi, thesponsor of today's show.
Sodi is the perfect mix ofsodium, potassium and magnesium,
(07:02):
and those are the salts thatmake your muscles work, so you
can choke a fool.
Also, it's delicious and whenyou go to sodicomau and use the
code BULLETPROOF15, you get 15%off.
So what are you waiting for?
Get the hydration, get theelectrolytes and get choking
fools today.
(07:24):
Any great gym it doesn't matterif it's CrossFit or it's
powerlifting or it's jiu-jitsu,whatever it might be you do
kickboxing.
The sense of belonging is sostrong If it's a good group of
people and they're your friendsand you've done tournaments
together or you've done the opentogether or whatever it is.
The bonds you've formed and theexperiences you've shared are
(07:45):
not replicatable in any otherway.
Really, like sure, you might beclose with your workmates or
whatever, but it's just not thesame.
I think you know they say oftenlike the lessons you learn the
hard way are the ones thatreally stick.
And so getting injured,suffering a lot, all these
things that really hardwires inemotion and in in the body, in
(08:07):
the feeling of it, thoseexperiences, and you remember
who was around you, uh, whetheryou loved them or not, like we
were together, and you knowwe've talked about it before.
The togetherness thing is,sometimes it could feel very
like, like I don't, I can't, Ican't touch that feeling in any
other situation and that's whypeople do stick with the
(08:27):
suffering.
And yeah, jujitsu, I think, isbig enough in its skill scope.
You can work around your shitLike.
You know, like not that youwill necessarily performing
jujitsu to its fullest extent,but I think it's big enough that
even if you've got like we'reseeing, I would say, a lot of
(08:49):
folks coming to no gi, like eventhough we said it might favor a
younger athletic person well,if your fingers are all busted
up from judo or gripping the giand you're like, well, I don't
have to grip the gi now.
My hands don't hurt so much, Ican keep that going.
You know there's there's lotsof ways.
I don't get stuck in worm guardhere yeah, I'm not getting, I'm
not getting twisted up, youknow, like in lasso or whatever
(09:10):
it might be.
So I think there's more roomfor reinvention as a grappler
within the world of grapplingand jujitsu than, say, crossfit.
Like if you can't lock outoverhead, that takes away a huge
part of what CrossFit is right.
In the same way, if you can'tsquat below 90, it takes that
away.
Whereas in jujitsu we've seenit we see people who are in
(09:33):
black belts and brown belts, whodon't have their full physical
function but still roll quitewell based on the game they've
built around their limits.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Yeah, I mean in a sense like jiu-jitsu is endless
in that regard, I mean, CrossFitis basically five exercises
that just get recycled intodifferent formats, and so those
cunts they love that shit.
Yeah, for sure Today.
So those cunts sign up, theylove that shit.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Wait, today we did the burpees before the
kettlebell swings oh what?
And then we ran around theblock.
You're like fuck that's so good.
Kipping handstand pushups socreative.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
But no for sure, and I think that this is the most
confronting thing with anythingyou do in your life is you're
constantly doing this little.
Is it worth it?
Is it worth it, you know, likea business, a relationship.
You're like man.
It was so shit today, but thenyou have these moments of just
the best, the best feeling youcould feel all day, all year.
(10:27):
Whatever you have those moments, you're like this makes it all
worth it, whatever that lookslike.
So you're like this makes itall worth it, whatever that
looks like.
And I think what I've seen atleast is parents who get their
kids into jujitsu.
They're now like they're asmuch in it for their kids as
they are for them.
Yeah, you know.
So seeing their kid get theirfirst stripe or seeing their kid
(10:48):
win a tournament, they're soproud and it just fills their
cup so much.
Don't even really give a fuckabout how bad their knees or
their shoulders are.
They're like I'll just keepgoing because I want to stay
connected to this, this, thisfeeling of um, yeah, of just a
personal expression or whateverit might be, you know.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Yeah, and I mean I think you know like we see those
stories a lot, right, I was attom de blas posted about.
Was it him posted about one ofhis students who, oh no, or was
it uh, rafael levato, whobasically his fucking legs don't
work his knees are knees arebuckled.
He's on a wheelchair, I thinkand but he drags himself, he
wheels up to the side of the matone of the students yeah, yeah,
(11:29):
and then just fucking grapplesreal hard.
Yeah, despite these cripplingand and and I don't my
impression was it was notbecause he had suffered like.
It was not because he had, likeyou know, he was disabled in
some way or incapacitated, butit was more.
Just he'd fucked his knees upso much from training that now
he couldn't use them.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
And so you look at that and you're like
Self-inflicted disability, yeahand you're like, oh, because I
don't abide that I don't know.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
But obviously the dude's like no man juice is
worth the squeeze.
You're like, all right, fuck,do it.
Who am I to say otherwise?
But I think our general messageis you don't want to end up
completely destroying yourselfat all costs, right yourself at
all costs, right, but, um, butit's, you know.
Yeah, I think it's good toreflect on.
There is, there is something inthat because, well, fuck you,
(12:18):
you're going to cop damage,right, you are.
Life's going to, life's goingto fucking hammer you in many
ways.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
It is.
But I think what we're probablygetting to here, which is
probably as important asanything, is, even when you do
cop an injury, staying connectedis key, like that's.
That's kind of part of thehealing process.
It's not just healing the jointitself.
It's that people often whenthey get injured, they feel
disassociated, they feel like,oh, I've, I'm not part of my
group anymore.
And you know, the thing that weknow, we know with our own
(12:49):
community, is like once you copyour first serious injury and
you've joined the family, you'vejoined the jujitsu family,
which is injury town.
But your ability, um, you knowand there's a lot of research
around this to show that yourlongevity in terms of mental and
physical health has a lot to dowith your connections.
(13:10):
So to get isolated or toseparate yourself, um, is
actually not going to help anyhealing you might achieve.
So if there's a way for you tostay connected with your people,
it doesn't mean you have to dojiu-jitsu when you're injured.
But I believe maintaining theconnection, however you do that
over time, means you're going tohave a healthier life across a
(13:33):
broader spectrum.
We might say, oh yeah, spectrumjiu-jitsu.
So this is the hardest thing,because there's so many days
that make you want to quit, evenif you're not injured.
But staying, the ability tostay connected to people you
care about, I think is greaterthan the pain you can suffer as
(13:56):
an individual.
Yeah, so you get the rightbalance on that and then, yeah,
staying connected is the keythere.
It is, yes, stay connectedfolks.
This is the way.
This is the way.
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