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Speaker 2 (00:07):
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Speaker 3 (00:17):
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Speaker 4 (00:22):
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Speaker 5 (00:32):
Welcome to the Bulletproof of BJJ podcast.
Today we've got a Q&A episodefor you guys.
Yeah, if I can't do that again,welcome to the Bulletproof of
BJJ podcast.
Today we've got a Q&A episodefor you guys.
We've got three questionscoming in from y'alls and check
it out.
If you've got something youwant to know about jujitsu,
about strength training, aboutyour jujitsu politics, the
journey, whatever, fire itthrough.

(00:53):
We love hearing from you guys.
It's a great way to share theinfo and it's fucking cool to
hear where y'alls are from.
Our first question today iscoming in from Rich.
Oh, the way you go tobulletproof for bjjcom, hit the
podcast tab.
That's where you record thevoicemail.

Speaker 4 (01:07):
yes, sir, first one coming in from rich, giddy up
hey guys, richard here frombarry ontario, canada, I'm a
four-stripe white belt and juststarted getting into competing,
and recently I won my firstcompetition, a local comp.
Well done.
And my question is when you'reon the podium taking photos,

(01:28):
what do you do with your hands?
I could see the guy next to mewith both thumbs up, so I did
the same, but when I look backat the photo, it turns out he
also had his pinkies out, doinga much cooler gesture than I did
.
I looked like a big dork upthere.
So what do you do with yourhands to look cool in a podium

(01:49):
photo?
Thanks, guys, you're legendsfuck yeah rich.

Speaker 5 (01:52):
You're a fucking sick guy.
That's so funny, shout out tothe fam from ontario, canada.
Well, look, the fucking ridgydid the shakas this is
synonymous with jiu-jitsu,because this a Brazilian thing.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
Well it is, but it's also like hang loose.
It's surf culture too right.

Speaker 5 (02:07):
It is, but like every Brazilian, you know, in every
photograph is a fucking bra.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
I think it just depends on how you hit it
because, like there was I thinksomeone had it's either a
podcast or an Instagram, whichis awkward shakas, where it's
like the broken fingers, youknow what I mean?

Speaker 4 (02:22):
Yeah, bro.

Speaker 5 (02:23):
I like so Rich if I'm selling you the fucking book,
the little pocket guide book onhow to pose on the podium in a
jiu-jitsu competition.
Yes, there's a couple of keythings that I'm going to tell
you.
Let's start with exactly whatthe culture tells you you should
do.
First, havaianas or Vans orcrocs these are your three shoe

(02:46):
choices, potentially.
Second thing legs out wide,like you got a massive cock.
You got to have legs wide, likefeet wide, right stance yeah,
like a little bit turned outright with the legs.
Third thing you got to.
You got to get the neck facedown so you got to be able to
drop.
You got to be able to drop yourfat neck.
Yeah, you got to be able to dropthe base of your skull sort of

(03:07):
into your traps and then smileand sort of look straight ahead
with this neck that's biggerthan your head.
Right, this is our part.
And then you've got to have theshakas, Potentially.
Yeah, this is it.
Or you know, IBJJF, you canhold the flowers and hold the
medal.
What do you got there?

Speaker 2 (03:24):
Well, I was going to say, if you look at all of the
top boys from Dagestan, whateverthey're, always yes, point to
God.
Point to God is number one, butalso it's kind of number one.
You know what I mean.
Yeah, it's like number one baby, but they are like pointing up
like praise to God right.
Yeah, I am nothing, he iseverything.
Yeah, you see that a lot, yeah.
And then you also see folkshitting the point to the sky.

(03:50):
You might see that where peopleare like praise, the almighty
kind of thing, or the flex,Straight bicep.
Do you see a lot of the flex?
You do, but the thing about thepodium.

Speaker 5 (04:01):
Wait, wait, wait On the podium or when they finish
the match, again they're handraised.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
No, no, no On the podium.
But I think this is the thingyou have to be aware of.
Everyone else on the podiumlike depending on Like you've
just had some comp experience.
It's great, it's awesome thosefolks, you may see them down the
track as you go through yourjiu-jitsu journey a dick on the
podium, you know what I mean.
Like you don't want to be likethis fucking.
Look at me, I'm better thanthese fucking guys.

(04:26):
Like I have experienced.
Like trying to get out angle.
I mean, look I'm, if you'relower on the podium, you're
lower on the podium.
What you're going to say, right, that's right.
But sometimes the you, so youwon, right.
The kind gesture is to inviteyour compatriots up onto number
one and we all do the group hugphoto.

Speaker 5 (04:46):
Yeah, that's a bit of a thing which I mean.
I really like the idea of itand, you know, I would say you
can do that after you've hadyour photo where you're on the
fucking top because if you won,you want to get that moment.
That's you.
Yeah, you earned that.
How about peace?
You've seen the Peace cool I.
You've seen the Peace Corps.
I actually really liked thatyou did thumbs up.
I think thumbs up is honest andI think the nicest thing about
the podium is that at that pointyou can just express your

(05:08):
happiness.
Yeah, it's usually the end ofthe day and you're trying to get
the fuck out of there, yeah,but it's just like yeah, fucking
sick, I won.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
Like you're the fucking boss man, you don't have
to do anything.

Speaker 5 (05:20):
Yeah, or I've seen you typically know a lot of
Japanese fighters with the pieceand I would say probably the
Japanese grapplers feed together.
Yes.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
Yeah, respectful, yep , but then you also.
You know someone's an MMAfighter, they do the fist
there's no chakas yeah that'sright You're like, but we don't
do striking the fist Every time.
It doesn't matter if it's aphoto with a friend, it doesn't
have to be podium.
You know, someone has an MMA orstriking background if they
hold up the fist.
This is very true.

(05:48):
It's a very boxing thing.
So I would say that's as far asyou want to go.
It depends on your vibe.
You sound like a nice, friendlycat.
I think thumbs up is a goodreflection of self yeah, I think
it's fucking cool man.

Speaker 5 (05:59):
I think it's appropriate.
You've proven yourself on thebattlefield.
You can be whoever the fuck youwant once you get up to that
podium precise rich.
So question number two comingin from chris hey, jt, joey,
bulletproof bros.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
Uh, thanks heaps for all the valuable info you put
out.
It's been super helpful for meas a 43-year-old high-calorie
individual getting into it.
But I've got three kids 10, 9,and 6, who all train BJJ,

(06:37):
absolutely love it.
Uh, one's pretty competitiveand wants to compete.
Uh, bulletproof bjj for kids.
Uh, they do extra activities,they do boxing during the week,
they do gymnastics.
Uh, they do some circus andsome acrobatics and I'm mindful

(06:58):
not to overdo it but doing themobility work and foundations.
What other recommendations haveyou got for bulletproofing the
kids?
Any info would be super helpful.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
Thanks, guys yes sir, that's a cool question.
Well, I mean, it's coming folks.
Bulletproof for bj kids is notfar away.

Speaker 5 (07:18):
We're going to be opening up a chain of preschools
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Fam JT's going to be there,omnipresent, looking after them,
turning them into just the kindof kids you wanted them to be.
Stick.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
Traditional Chinese and Russian methods applied.
Look so it's interestingbecause I had this chat before
many, many episodes ago about,like, getting kids into BJJ.
Like what age and how do youprelim that?
And everything I've everlearned about coordination and
everything like that is thatkids should start at kindy gym,
because rolling handstands,cartwheels, like just learning

(07:52):
how to control your body, isreally important, especially
when it gets to boys and puberty.
This is where it becomes animportant thing, because the
body they had when they were,you know, eight is very
different than the one they havewhen they're 12.
Girls too, girls too right, andso not getting injured, like
them learning how to controltheir bodies as they grow is
really important.
So I feel there should alwaysbe a degree of body weight

(08:14):
strength training, like that'syou know if, if, if.
From my perspective, if a kidcan't do pull-ups or they can't
do supports or certain thingslike that, that's a really good
place to start for them to besafe when they're getting into
more dynamic actions likejujitsu.
And I don't think there'sanything wrong with bringing in
a degree of resistance trainingeither On top of that.

(08:36):
It would just depend on theirmovement proficiency, as long as
the individual doesn't matterhow old they are, has good
technique and their technique isnot breaking down under the
load, then they're pretty good.
There used to be this thoughtof like, no, you can't load them
up, it'll damage their growthplates.
But actually what they've shown?
More recent studies have shownthat if you get prepubescent

(08:58):
boys and girls to lift weights,they actually go through puberty
smoother.
It helps regulate theirhormones and there's no stunting
of growth or anything like that.
So I think as long as your kidsare doing any activity in a
safe way, then it's good.
But I always, when I've gotsomeone who's anywhere from

(09:18):
eight to 12, start with a goodbase of like body weight and
gymnastic strength and thenintroduce load over time with
good technique.

Speaker 5 (09:27):
Yeah, I love that.
Yeah, I think we used to saythat.
Right, we used to say that,like lifting weights made you
short.
I think too, because, like Idon't know, I remember, like in
the nineties, all the strongkids and if you look at and you
look at like a lot of Olympicathletes, like weightlifters and
stuff, they're always short andI think it was the case that
being shorter is of benefit whenyou're at that elite level and

(09:49):
so it's not a result of theweightlifting, it's just that
the shorter people made betterweightlifters.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
No, but I think there was one study that showed that
certain load-bearing activitiesit didn't prove it, it just said
has the potential to damagegrowth plates.
Right, and since that came out,everyone's like, oh, weight
training's bad, weighttraining's bad, but you're like,
no.
If you look at all of the majorOlympic programs, whether it be
Olympic lifting, gymnastics,anything they start the kids

(10:15):
really young and they have thisinfinite base of technique which
, as they grow, you graduallyadd load too.

Speaker 5 (10:23):
So I think I mean, it sounds like your kids are
already busy, as they're into.
It Sounds like they're doing alot.
I would find it hard to seewith that sort of schedule where
you would fit it in.
However, that's for y'all,right.
So let's say you were like yeah, I got some extra time and
they're already doing gymnastic.
Like what do you say?
Boxing?
They're doing some gymnastics,they're doing some circus stuff.

(10:43):
So the body weight stuff, themovement side of things, the
proprioception, the, the complexskill work is there.
If I were to add something tothat, I'd be like a session of
lifting some weights in thegarage with dad some dead
deadlifts, some squats, somelunges, some, some bench press.
You know, some bent over rowswould be fucking sick.
And a lovely compliment to allthat other stuff yeah, not

(11:06):
necessary in my view.
But if you're like, hey, I wantto get some shit in, I would
think that's great and that'sreally the stuff that we've got
right in.
Um, uh, strength one-on-one.

Speaker 4 (11:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (11:14):
You know it's.
It's the stuff you see there,or maybe even it's the stuff
from kettlebell kettlebellprogram.
Right, you get a couple ofkettlebells in the garage, but
that would be a lovelycompliment to all the other
stuff.
You've already got them doing.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
You could definitely use the programs we currently
have, just scaled to theircurrent level.
Yeah, whatever that looks like.

Speaker 5 (11:30):
Oh, and he also asked about mobility.
Now, with that, um, the thingis with kids, is that really
like building some kind of habitaround?
Mobility is the thing.
If they're already visiting theranges of motion that you want
them like, if they're doing kindof split work, like front split
work, side split work, they'redoing cart wheels, they're doing

(11:52):
back bendy type stuff atgymnastics, it's probably no
need to do anymore Like ifyou're already.
If they're already visitingthose ranges of motion, there's
probably no need to do anymoreLike if you're already.
If they're already visitingthose ranges of motion, that's
probably good.
But if you find that they arelacking specific ranges of
motion, which is definitelysomething we see with kids and
and particularly ones that areon the mats.
Yep, they get tight right,they're at fucking school all
day and then they're on the matsand all that.

(12:13):
Then yeah, like definitelygetting them into a habit of
addressing, of working on thatstuff, the same shit that you do
, the same shit that we've gotin foundation mobility would be
the stuff to work on.
For that.
It's just um, again, you knowyou don't want to overload them
and they also probably don'tneed as much stimulus as an
adult needs, right?

(12:34):
Like usually they're going to bea little bit more malleable
there.
So there's a couple of thoughtson it.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
That's awesome.
It's cool that you're gettingyour kids so involved in that.
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Speaker 3 (13:54):
Ooh, anonymous for this last one.
This guy always calls in heyguys, big fan of your show.
I've been listening for areally long time now.
Uh, keep up the great work.
My question for today is whatare your thoughts of how
politics and bjj seems to bebecoming more intertwined, and

(14:15):
where I'm coming?
Uh, regarding that question wasI don't know if you guys saw on
reddit and even on instagram,uh, sopo josh saunders, um,
espousing some pretty fascistbeliefs, you know, and he did
say pretty much outright, saidyep, I don't care what you guys

(14:38):
think of me, this is my belief,you know.
But I sort of think, come on,like, when it comes to sports
and politics, I think it shouldbe separate.
But Not even just that.
Even in America nowadays, ifyou notice Gordon, ryan and, I
guess, just other big timejiu-jitsu athletes seeming to be

(15:05):
connected to politics, what doyou guys think of that?
And should they be separate?
I think it should be.
And if someone asks if you're afascist, you should say no.
If you say yes, jesus Christ.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
Anyways what do you guys think?
Thanks See ya what did he say,oh no, it was actually revealed
on Reddit because you know, whenyou're on Instagram and you see
a post and it shows you whoelse you know who likes it,
there's a particular.
I followed this Reddit threadbecause our friend here had
reached out to me and said whatdo you think about this?

(15:40):
And I was like, oh, I had noidea, I didn't know, and it's
like a neo-Nazi kind of pride,passion, superiority, wow.
And he liked a bunch of posts.
And then I think he had madesome kind of post that was
saying, you know, I don't knowexactly, so you know alluding to

(16:04):
him having fascist beliefs,right, and it being like why
shouldn't I like I'm, I'mentitled to my beliefs and
things, and people were fuckingtorching him for this position,
he's like, well, fuck you, Idon't care.
And when you say, as in, likewhite supremacist beliefs, yeah,
along those lines, yeah, wow,and look, you know, whatever I

(16:24):
know Josh, I get on with him,but I do know that he is
actually a very extremepersonality.
I can't speak to his politicalbeliefs because I've never had
that conversation with him,right, so I don't want to talk
out of turn about that right.
So a person's a person, right.
And yes, gordon Ryan hasexpressed some pretty intense

(16:47):
and very untasteful kind ofpolitical beliefs and how you
can treat other people and allkinds of stuff right and how you
can treat other people and allkinds of stuff right.
And so for me, when it comes tojiu-jitsu, I always try and
just treat individuals withnormal human respect.
I've talked about this beforeand Joe's been upset with me
before because I've said that ifyou do jiu-jitsu, I respect you

(17:08):
more.
That's me, it's my choice,right.
And she's like how about yourmom?
Your mom doesn't train.
Yeah, she doesn't get jiu-jitsu.
Respect bro, dad doesn't train.
No well, he's a judo brown belt, so fuck that.

Speaker 5 (17:18):
He gets some respect.
When's the last time you turnedup to an open mat?

Speaker 2 (17:20):
Bro, he tried to fucking throw me the other day.

Speaker 5 (17:22):
Where's that?
I was at the Randori.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
Where was your dad at ?
I tried to hug him, and.
But what I'm saying with thisis that everyone has their
preferences, right.
And it's interesting thatoftentimes when athletes stay
neutral it's out of a mode ofself-interest, and that if
you're open about your politicalbeliefs, it can also harm you,
not necessarily help you right.
And we've seen this withcomedians, like you know.

(17:49):
Comedians, you know, maybesaying things politically that
were a bit outside their scopeof reference, and now they're
getting torched because maybethey said things that they
shouldn't have said.
At the end of the day, for me,you can't control another
individual, you can only controlyourself.
But what is good to think iswhat is the person's motivation?
Because what has been done inthe past is a political

(18:14):
organization will pick someoneand be like ah, this guy's
popular, we're going to use thisguy, you know.
And then sometimes a lot oftimes, that is bad for their,
even though initially it mightseem good.
If that political view orwhatever falls out of favor,
that person then is chastisedand you know, in the moment they
were popular and then it fallsoff a lot later and it may not

(18:34):
age well.
For me, I don't think I have anyqualification to tell anyone
what to think, other than how tolift shit and maybe choke
somebody.
My political beliefs, I think,are irrelevant.
I don't think it's going tohelp anybody for me to share
what I believe around that.
You know what I mean.

(18:54):
I think what happens is peopleget very gassed up.
People are like you'reimportant, you're an influence,
but oftentimes athletes are notthat savvy or that smart and
they're not politically awareand they're like yeah, well, you
know what I think?
I fucking think this.
And it's like you're an idiot.
You shouldn't have opened youryour mouth.
You did way better when youshut the fuck up and just kick

(19:15):
the ball.
That's the problem.
We put way too much um uhimportance on how important
athletes are because at the endof the day, they're sports
people.
They're not necessarily thatsmart and they will disappoint
you yeah.

Speaker 5 (19:30):
So I reckon, like I see what you're saying about the
split between, like, politicsand sport, but I don't know,
these days, right, politics areprobably well, at least in the
West, they've become a lot moredivisive than they used to be.
Sure, so, you know, and we takeour cue off culturally here

(19:52):
from America and you look atwhat's happening and there's a
huge split between this wholeRepublican-D right and it's like
you're a liberal, you know, youguys are liberals and you guys
are fucking ultra conservatives,and it's like there's nothing
in between.
And so we have like, whetherit's true or not, we have people
here that also jump onto thosebandwagons, right.

(20:13):
So, like we know.
So, like we know, I know Trumpsupporters here.
I know people that feltincredibly emboldened by, like
Australians, that feltemboldened by Trump getting into
power, and they're like, yes,fuck you, fucking liberals,
motherfucking, you know, tryingto push LGBTQI plus shit down my
throat, fucking, you know.
And it's like, brother, that'sa whole nother country that
you're referencing there in youropinion.

(20:34):
That's another, that's a wholenother country that you're
referencing there in youropinion.
Yeah, um, so in that way, Ithink that, because it's become
more divisive, you are going toend up with this, where someone
exposes their position andinstead of it being any like oh
wow, that's a different opinionof mine, let's talk about that
it becomes like a, like abattleground.
Yeah, right, because we onlyhave like, progressive and

(20:55):
conservative.
Um, I think that with thatemboldening comes a lot of
motherfuckers out of thewoodwork with very narrow-minded
views of how the world works.
Um, I think people can beracist, fascist pieces of shit
without realizing it.
Yeah, you know, you can look atpeople, can look at elements of
, like the white supremacistmovement.
She'd be like yeah, I am proudto be who I am and I shouldn't

(21:16):
be sorry.
But it's like, yeah, that's allfine, but you don't have to.
You don't have to go and startmurdering dark-colored people.
Like yeah, right, like yeah,don't.
And this is what thosemovements do.
They pull people in who arefeeling a particular way, yes,
and then they fucking um, youknow, fill their head with all
of this other shit.
So what I'm getting at is it'sa bit of a quagmire.
I can't hate on someone forbeing truthful about what they

(21:39):
feel.
You know like I got no problemwith that, but the problem is is
that some people are notinclusive in their discussion of
that, and if you want to havean intelligent discussion about
such things, you do need to beinclusive.
So you have to go.
Look, this is what I think I.
You do need to be inclusive, soyou have to go look, this is
what I think.

Speaker 2 (21:57):
I'm open to talk about it and and defend what I
believe and listen to your, yourdiffering opinion, and I think
this is a mistake I've made inthe past, which is just you know
, it's just either insecurity orimmaturity or whatever you put
it down to.
They say that the person whoreally understands a topic or
can reason it can argue bothsides.
And in the past not even in thepast I have a tendency to just

(22:23):
disregard someone out of hand ifI think they don't understand
the topic.
I haven't sought to understandthem right.
And this is the problem withmany extreme beliefs is that I
have my belief.
Fuck your beliefs.
And even though my beliefsaren't necessarily grounded in
anything, I believe in themwholeheartedly.
I'm passionate.
Fuck you right.
But here's the thing For many ofthe things I have a strong

(22:44):
belief in, I've done thousandsof hours of fucking research Not
like one Google like dedicatedmy whole life to really trying
to understand the topic and lovethe fuck out of it and live it
right, and so therefore, it'sbeen very well considered,
whereas maybe for someone elsethey've only given it like two
minutes thought.
When it comes to politics andgeopolitics and religious
beliefs and all this stuff like,I believe a lot of this, like

(23:07):
Joe was saying before, isdivisive and creates separation.
And what I love about jiu-jitsuis it brings very different
folks together.
And what I love about jiu-jitsuis it brings very different
folks together.
The problem is, when you bringvery different folks together,
you get clashes right, whetherit be political, religious,
ideological, whatever the fuck.
And that's our biggest problemas humans is our ability to
overcome our differences, torealize that we are all very

(23:29):
similar.
It's just hard, especially ifsomeone has set of beliefs
that's really you find like youdon't agree with, or just yeah,
really gross.
You know, according to yourpersonal beliefs.
So I'm not throwing anyoneunder the bus here.
I mean, we all see it online,like if you don't like something

(23:50):
, you unfollow it or whatever,and we all have our little
social media bubbles.
But ultimately, you know, I'mnot in any position to tell
someone what to think.
It's more just that I have myideas and if you like my ideas
and you vibe with them, thenyou're going to vibe with them,
and if you don't, you're goingto talk shit about me in the
comment section.
And this is the internet, right?
I think where it gets reallytricky is when someone becomes

(24:12):
more influential, and howinfluential they are and how
famous they are totallyoutweighs their understanding of
the world, and because it'slike a child with a microphone,
they might, you know, saysomething wrong and that offends
people.
Yeah, but so to your point aboutyour nature there, right, I
think, and I'm not saying-, soI've tried to change that, that

(24:35):
I've tried to understand anotherperson better so I can be like
fuck.
Are they right?
Am I wrong?

Speaker 5 (24:40):
And that's the thing, right?
Because if it turns out that,objectively, your opinion does
suck, yeah, then you want tohave the capacity to be able to
hear someone with a differingopinion.
Maybe I can change my thinkingon that, yeah, but this is the
problem, right?
Is that?
Because a lot of us are like,no, that's my fucking views and
that's my whatever.
And it's like they are justclosing off the door to personal

(25:01):
evolution yeah right.
And so you know we all haveviews on what sort of ideologies
might fall into thosecategories of being.
You know, whatever Making youan asshole?
Yeah, it's a big one.
Man being you know whatevermaking you an asshole?
Yeah, that's a big one man.
What a fascinating question.
But look man.

Speaker 2 (25:18):
Should it be separate , joe, like, what's your take on
that?

Speaker 5 (25:20):
Well, here's the thing I mean yes, right, for the
protection of, just like, thegood times.
Yeah, like I'm not bringing upmy thoughts on Gaza and Israel
when I'm at the gym, sure, right.
But like, if you ask me, I'llfucking tell you and I will not
hide my true thoughts onsomething that I believe is an
atrocity, you know, because Ithink it might offend you know a

(25:42):
handful of people.
And then, and in that way,right, like if you're talking
about that as an example, you'relike you know kids getting
starved and you're like, wait,that is not a political thing,
that is a human thing.
Like that is us being born inanother part of the planet, but
it is us and it's, and they'redying.
And you're like that's a humanthing, not a political thing,
yeah, right.
So in a way, I'm like maybe wecan't separate it, maybe,

(26:05):
because do you know what I meanLike I'm going to try not to get
into these heavy conversationswith my.
With my grappling mates.
But if it comes up it's likethis is human conversation and
probably it would benefit a lotof us to talk about some of this
shit a bit more, because itbrings it up and it gives that
space for personal evolution orgrowth of a particular topic or

(26:26):
belief.

Speaker 2 (26:28):
Yeah, I agree with that.
But then it's also like samething when you go to greet
someone in the morning like hey,how are you going?
You're not actually reallyasking how someone's going.

Speaker 5 (26:39):
No time and place.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
So we're recognizing when is the time to let the
person.
Bro, I'm getting divorced, I'mfucking losing the house.
I fucking, I found out I gotherpes.
I mean you know, like yourself,yeah, like the biggest challenge
is like there's a never reallya good time to talk about

(27:01):
something which really fuckingtears at your soul, yeah, or is
keeping you up at night, or hasgot you worried about the future
of the world for your kids.
But that said, you know you'vegot to look at someone's
motivations and go.
Is this just a selfishexpression of personal interest?
Or someone saying this becausethey do want to open up dialogue
, because they want to chat andthey want to share ideas and,

(27:24):
for the best part, most peopledon't.
They just want to yell theiropinion and that's it, and that
doesn't necessarily get usanywhere.

Speaker 5 (27:31):
Fucking good question , Ben Guys, if you want to leave
a question to be featured on anupcoming Q&A episode and we
will get to it we always get tothem.
There is a delay because we geta lot, so go to
bulletproofatbjjcom, hit thepodcast tab, leave us a
voicemail and we'll hit it up ona future episode.
Love you guys.
Shoo, I'm out.
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