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SPEAKER_00 (00:03):
You better listen very carefully.
A good martial artist does notbecome tense but ready.
SPEAKER_04 (00:12):
Essentially, at this point, the fight is over.
SPEAKER_02 (00:16):
So you pretty much flow with the goal.
SPEAKER_04 (00:21):
Who is worthy to be trusted with the secret to
limitless power?
I'm ready.
SPEAKER_03 (00:32):
What's up, fam?
Welcome to the QA episode.
Today we've got three questionsfrom you guys, and we're going
to answer them.
If you want to leave us aquestion, go to bulletproof for
bjj.com, hit the podcast pageand record us a voicemail.
Tell us your name, tell us whereyou're from.
We fucking love hearing whereyou guys are from.
Um, it lets us know that thereare people out here on the other
end of this shit having alisten.
Yes, sir.
All right, here we go.
(00:52):
First one coming in from Bree,old friend of the show.
Yes, ma'am.
SPEAKER_01 (00:57):
Hey, Joey and JT.
This is Bree from the States, uhlongtime listener, second time
caller.
Uh, I wanted to ask a questionabout getting better at
inverting.
Uh, I just got my blue belt.
I am an active competitor, andas I was competing over this
last weekend, I'm watching theexpert divisions and just
watching these ladies be, youknow, on their neck for the
(01:20):
majority of the match, likeeither working for a submission,
working for an escape, usingtheir legs to get back into, you
know, either guard or mount.
And I'm like, wow, I um can't dothat yet.
So I don't know if it's likeprimal fear with a combination
of immobility of my cervical andthoracic spine.
(01:41):
But um, I have a hard time evendoing like a static Granby, much
to the chagrin of my coaches.
Uh so I would love your adviceon how to get better at that.
Uh hope you guys are both well.
Thanks so much.
SPEAKER_04 (01:53):
Bro, you legend, good to hear from you.
Yeah, lovely to hear from you.
Congrats on the blue belt.
Um look, I I'm gonna say havingan inversion game isn't
necessarily for everybody, buthaving the capacity to go there
temporarily or momentarily isgood and necessary.
So the first step I would say iscan you kind of how close are
(02:16):
you to kind of getting your headon your knees?
Can you stand and put your palmson the floor?
Like, I think an essential thingthat you need to check within
yourself is like, how's yourforward fold?
How's your hamstrings?
How's your lower back to be inthat very tight flexed position?
Then the other flip side on thatis when you are on your back and
you're lifting your feet up,like how's your compression
(02:38):
strength through your abs andyour hip flexes?
And that's actually like areally important piece of the
puzzle that people forget thatpeople go, oh, my hamstrings are
tight, but often the other sideof that is they're not actually
that strong in the abs and inthe hip hip flexes to be in such
a tight compressed position.
So, first step is to be workingon that forward fold and just
(03:02):
see where you are, um, whetheryou're doing a J curl or just uh
doing different amounts ofhamstring work, and then the
other side of that is like umcan you do a dragon flag or are
you doing any like strongcompression work, toaster bar,
LC?
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (03:18):
Your take, Joey?
Yeah, I think all of that, Ithink um definitely like the
point of like you don't need tobe inverting a lot, like as part
of your game.
I like I've got all the physicalcapacity for it, but I don't
like inverting that much.
It just doesn't kind of, I don'tknow, doesn't feel right to me.
SPEAKER_04 (03:35):
It it there is a risk to reward.
Like if you spend a lot of timethere, even though it can give
you benefits from jujitsu, thereason I spend less time there
is the chance of injury ishigher.
Yeah, if someone just stacks onyou or just jumps on you and
you're in that position, thechance of uh disc and vertebrate
injury is high.
SPEAKER_03 (03:53):
Um, the other part of it is like the like
addressing just the movement ofyour spine generally.
And this is where the JKL isreally good, like the top
portion of that will sort ofgive you the core, like teach
you how to try to segment eachof your vertebrae, starting from
the top, working your way down.
Um, but I would be looking forother drills that also help with
(04:14):
that, right?
And just generally trying tobuild a little bit more what's
the word I would use yeah,tolerance, control of the spine.
Because most of us don't reallyknow how to articulate our spine
because we don't practice doingit.
Yeah, right.
Uh I'm not trying to recommendyou do spinal waves.
Oh, I thought you were gonna gothere, but spinal waves are
really good for this, but butyou know, especially for an old
(04:34):
for like a mature age person,right?
And I say mature, like as in anadult, anyone, if you've lived a
life where you haven't been likeworking on your spine, like
let's say you're a gymnast,let's say you're a dancer, um,
you do you're doing shit thatutilizes your spine a lot.
If you are not one of thosethings, your spine, you're
probably a little bitunintelligent when it comes to
(04:55):
trying to articulate it.
So I would just work on it moreand I would invert more in
training.
Yeah, you know, I hate tofucking say it.
JT's gonna blow up about thisone, but solo drills.
Oh, why you don't need to buy aDVD, you don't need to
subscribe, you just need to justdo some back rolls and shit,
just do some inversions on thewall and that kind of thing.
(05:17):
And I think over time you youlet your body know, like, hey,
I'm actually I'm all right withthis, the coordination's good,
and who knows?
After a bit of time, you mightbe able to weave it into your
roles.
SPEAKER_04 (05:25):
You don't have to go to the dark side to learn about
the force.
That's all I'm saying.
You can you can do plenty ofmobility drills, which are not
solo drills per se.
But Brie, I think it's it's it'sin you, you can do it.
It's as to whether or not youactually want to be one of those
people.
Because it it it does it doesbear a cost.
SPEAKER_03 (05:44):
That um that wall one is a real nice one where you
just sit facing, you're sittingon your bum facing the wall, you
know, you you you you're gonnayou're gonna invert to one side
and you're gonna walk your feetalong the wall.
Yeah.
And this is a re because you gota bit of feedback from the wall
and roll, and you just you canadjust it.
Yeah, that's a really great wayto start.
Uh second question coming infrom Jack.
SPEAKER_02 (06:15):
Refresh this podcast, I've been listening for
a few months now.
So I'm a white belt.
I've been training for a coupleof years, and I'm naturally I'm
hypermobile, so I'm naturallyquite flexible.
(06:37):
And early on I really leanedhard into learning guards like
the rubber guard.
Now, obviously, I'm doingsomething wrong because I'm a
white belt and I managed toinjure myself because I think I
ended up pushing my knees toofar and ended up paying for it.
So I guess my question is is forpeople who are hypermobile, what
(06:57):
guards or positions actuallymake sense to focus on?
And how can I use my flexibilitywithout just wrecking my body in
the process?
Thanks again for all the awesomecontent.
SPEAKER_04 (07:11):
Jack, that's a very good, responsible question.
Good question.
All right, so I I have a strongI have a strong take on this.
I have plenty of friends in the10th planet world and and you
know, some very flexible people.
Here's the thing if you arehypermobile and you your joints
move very easily in certainpositions because you are
(07:32):
relying on this, I wouldn't sayit's passive, but this kind of
default mode of being able tomove your joints further than
most people, you are stressingthe connective tissues.
You are not really using yourmuscles to their proper, you
know, proper limit.
And so in that way, you'rebecoming reliant on something, a
trait which is potentiallyinjurious.
(07:52):
And you've you've kind of foundthat out, right?
You've fucked around and foundout.
And I say that with no, I'm not,I I feel bad for you, man.
And it's not you didn't know andyou just had to try, right?
My general advice actually isbefore we even go to like
talking about styles of jujitsu,if you're someone out there who
knows they're hyper flexible,you need to start doing strength
(08:13):
training.
Like if you do not, you arereally hanging all the stress on
your joints and you and you'redoing it in positions where it's
not stabilized.
So if you haven't done some formof strength training to help
reinforce the joints, thoseconnective tissues over time are
going to break down becauseyou're not doing work to
reinforce them.
(08:34):
I would say you finding a gamethat suits you.
Now, I don't know yourproportions.
Generally, if you are a flexibleperson, you will be able to find
ways to regard and findtriangles and do a variety of
things, which is great.
But before you go to the move ofwhat jujitsu should I be doing,
if you've been injured byrelying too much on your
(08:55):
flexibility, I would encourageyou to start to reinforce your
joints with some strengthtraining before you go anywhere
else with your jujitsu.
SPEAKER_03 (09:01):
Yeah, well said.
I'd also say, um, yeah, not likewhat type of guards should I be
doing.
The type of guards you shouldnot be doing are the ones that
rely on your physicalsuperpower, which is
hypermobility.
Don't do those guards.
Like, um, maybe use them as aget out of jail free card, like
when you absolutely have to.
But if you are building a gamethat is reliant upon you taking
(09:26):
your joints to that end rangeall the time, you're only going
to be causing yourself damage.
And you'll see this at the elitelevel of guys who have like made
that deal with the devil, andlike, I don't give a fuck.
I want to win, and this is myfast, this is my and so that's
like fair enough in that realm.
But if you're trying to behealthy and live a long life and
train jujitsu for a long time,that doesn't work.
And you you're early in thejourney too.
Yeah.
(09:46):
I mean, hate to say it, but ifyou look at old school jujitsu,
that's the stuff that is prettyphysically safe for everyone.
Half guard, closed guard,butterfly guard, yeah, build a
bit of Delaheva in the Ghee.
Sure.
You know, um, like nothing supercrazy, right?
Sure.
Bit of Spider Guard.
SPEAKER_04 (10:04):
Yep.
SPEAKER_03 (10:04):
Um, but if you look at like if you look at a lot of
the a lot of the more modernstuff, it really is reliant on
like in particular the 10thplanet stuff.
Sure.
Right?
Like um What's that rubberguard?
Yeah, like Rubberguardspecifically.
Yeah, just you don't want to berelying on that shit.
SPEAKER_04 (10:19):
Um it's not to say don't save it, don't do it at
all.
SPEAKER_03 (10:23):
Know it.
Yeah, it's but don't make thatlike like if you're rolling,
right?
If you're if you're if you'rerolling in class, and let's say
you're doing 30 minutes ofrounds and you're trying three
times a week, if you're endingup in rubber guard in every role
for like prolonged periods oftime versus my go-to guard's
gonna be something a little bitmore fucking uh meat and
potatoes, gonna be somebutterfly or some X or whatever.
(10:45):
Sure.
And then every now and againwhen I'm getting fucked up, I'm
gonna go back to my back to myrubber guard shit.
I'm gonna you you're justreducing the amount of time
you're in that spot where yourknees are getting fucking
mashed.
I was actually rolling with aguy not long ago who had that
style of game.
I couldn't pass his guard.
His guard was so hard to pass,and then his knee popped.
Oh no, he just he fed he fed hishe grabbed his foot and he fed
(11:07):
it back in, and you know, and Iwas putting pressure on it and
then and he's like, oh, and Iwas like, uh, and I'm like, uh
like once the dust had settled,I'm like, maybe you just look at
your game, bro, because it's youknow, I I felt like it, I was
kind of waiting for something tohappen.
It's tough, it's so tough.
SPEAKER_04 (11:24):
And and the thing is we're all good to or not.
We're like, hey, this isworking, yeah.
And now you can't walk properly.
So man, not not not to wish thaton you, but uh ultimately for
the longevity piece, uh, we needto strengthen up those joints
outside of jujitsu.
So a little bit of strengthtraining.
This is my recommendation.
SPEAKER_03 (11:42):
Always, always strength training.
Jack, give us an update onceyou've watched done six or
twelve months of that.
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SPEAKER_03 (12:30):
Last question coming in.
SPEAKER_00 (12:32):
Kyoto boys, uh Kippa from Fangrey and Alteru and New
Zolon.
Uh first off, just wanted to sayum you guys uh the reason why
I've started uh Brazilian JiuJitsu.
Um I was uh 235 kgs at my max,um now down to uh 155.
(12:54):
Oh yeah.
Um had um gastric bypass surgeryin April this year.
Um my son wanted to do a martialart and we put him into BJJ, and
somehow I came across yourpodcast, and yeah, it's been
super inspiring.
So I just wanted to say thankyou for that.
Um my question is uh like I'mliterally like two weeks in and
(13:18):
uh I kind of don't know what I'mdoing.
Um we've had spas, etc.
Um, we've learned uh sometechniques uh in in the classes,
um, and I have a little bit ofknowledge from uh when my mates
used to go BJJ and then we usedto roll uh in the park.
But um what would you say wouldbe the best thing to focus on
(13:43):
right now?
Uh open guard, closed guard, uhsweeps, etc.
Thank you.
SPEAKER_04 (13:50):
Well, amazing.
Oh, Kyoto brother.
What a Keppel, what a legend!
SPEAKER_03 (13:54):
Man, that's fucking cool, bro.
Man, shout out to our our ourKiwi brothers and sisters.
Fangaday, I think I had one ofthe most memorable burgers of my
life in that town.
Oh, wow, they're with Paul yearsago when we'll when we were
working in New Zealand for aperiod.
Oh, amazing.
I had a sick, it was a beefburger with blue cheese in the
patty.
Wow, it was fuckingunbelievable.
It sounds special.
I hope they're still doing them.
SPEAKER_04 (14:13):
Yeah, well, look, this this is this is my advice.
Uh any any person that comes tome, it doesn't matter uh if
they're early in their firstyear, like say it's their first
year of jujitsu.
One of the most important thingsfor you to get a grip on is kind
of uh getting back to a positionof control.
So whether that's escapes ordefenses, like you're gonna
(14:36):
spend more time getting kind ofbeat on than having success.
And that doesn't mean youshouldn't learn submissions or
you shouldn't learn attacks.
I'm not saying that, buthonestly, you will spend most of
your time defending.
And if you don't have gooddefense, even if you've got a
really good submission, you'reonly ever gonna find that a very
(14:58):
small percentage of the time.
So the sooner you improve yourdefense and the sooner you get
better at just moving andfinding a way back to some form
of control or neutrality, um,you're you're just gonna keep
floundering otherwise.
So my advice is if you can learnwhere you're safe and where
you're not, learn how to defendagainst the major attacks, and
(15:21):
then also you know, ask yourcoach, how do I go from where I
am now back to a point where Ican try some shit?
Because if you don't know thattransition, then yeah, you're
you're gonna be a bit stuck.
SPEAKER_03 (15:34):
Yeah.
I agree with JT's take, thoughI'm gonna offer you an
alternative, which is that twoweeks in, don't worry about it.
Just just keep doing just keepshowing up at this stage,
really, just because there'sthere's too much, there's too
many.
So much.
There's so much, and there's somuch, like not even technique,
but there's so much like new onthe mats.
You're probably like your body'sbeen through a big transition,
(15:55):
right?
Like, I don't know how youyou're gonna probably gonna be
the biggest guy on the mats.
Maybe that comes with its ownsort of considerations, and like
so.
I'm like, just just be there andjust learn whatever they're
teaching.
Um, but approach with the viewthat every lesson I want to walk
away with at least one thing, Ican improve.
SPEAKER_04 (16:12):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (16:13):
So if it is the case that oh fuck, I keep just
getting attacked, I keep gettingsubbed by the same thing, ask
the coach, how do I defend thatthing?
Yeah, right.
Or if I keep getting stuck inside control, all right, how do
I fucking get out of it?
Like, use that as a as a metric.
Let's say you get 12 months in,then it would be like, all
right, where should I start todirect my focus?
That would be my alternativetake.
SPEAKER_04 (16:34):
Well, no, I on that I would say don't repeat your
mistakes.
You can always make like makingmistakes is what jujitsu is, but
try not to keep making the samemistake.
Like make a mistake, learn, fix,and then make new mistakes.
And this will absolutely ensureyour development however you
approach the game.
Kippa, what a legend.
Oh, amazing.
SPEAKER_03 (16:53):
I love to hear the accent.
Fuck, I I wonder, I would loveto be able to hear that from
like an American listener's justto be like the first five three
seconds of that voice.
Like, what the fuck is this?
Like, did he know what languageis that?
We have to get subtitles on thisbad boy.
Um, guys, appreciate thevoicemails.
We've got a few more to getthrough, which we'll be
recording over time.
If you've left us one recently,we did take a small break
(17:16):
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it.
But please uh go to theBulletproof webpage and record
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Bulletproof for bjj.com.
Hit the podcast tab, big redrecord button, leave it, and
we'll catch you on a futureepisode.
Peace.
Appreciate you all.
You better listen very carefully.
A good martial artist does notbecome tense but ready.
SPEAKER_04 (00:12):
Essentially, at this point, the fight is over.
SPEAKER_02 (00:16):
So you pretty much flow with the goal.
SPEAKER_04 (00:21):
Who is worthy to be trusted with the secret to
limitless power?
I'm ready.
SPEAKER_03 (00:32):
What's up, fam?
Welcome to the QA episode.
Today we've got three questionsfrom you guys, and we're going
to answer them.
If you want to leave us aquestion, go to bulletproof for
bjj.com, hit the podcast pageand record us a voicemail.
Tell us your name, tell us whereyou're from.
We fucking love hearing whereyou guys are from.
Um, it lets us know that thereare people out here on the other
end of this shit having alisten.
Yes, sir.
All right, here we go.
(00:52):
First one coming in from Bree,old friend of the show.
Yes, ma'am.
SPEAKER_01 (00:57):
Hey, Joey and JT.
This is Bree from the States, uhlongtime listener, second time
caller.
Uh, I wanted to ask a questionabout getting better at
inverting.
Uh, I just got my blue belt.
I am an active competitor, andas I was competing over this
last weekend, I'm watching theexpert divisions and just
watching these ladies be, youknow, on their neck for the
(01:20):
majority of the match, likeeither working for a submission,
working for an escape, usingtheir legs to get back into, you
know, either guard or mount.
And I'm like, wow, I um can't dothat yet.
So I don't know if it's likeprimal fear with a combination
of immobility of my cervical andthoracic spine.
(01:41):
But um, I have a hard time evendoing like a static Granby, much
to the chagrin of my coaches.
Uh so I would love your adviceon how to get better at that.
Uh hope you guys are both well.
Thanks so much.
SPEAKER_04 (01:53):
Bro, you legend, good to hear from you.
Yeah, lovely to hear from you.
Congrats on the blue belt.
Um look, I I'm gonna say havingan inversion game isn't
necessarily for everybody, buthaving the capacity to go there
temporarily or momentarily isgood and necessary.
So the first step I would say iscan you kind of how close are
(02:16):
you to kind of getting your headon your knees?
Can you stand and put your palmson the floor?
Like, I think an essential thingthat you need to check within
yourself is like, how's yourforward fold?
How's your hamstrings?
How's your lower back to be inthat very tight flexed position?
Then the other flip side on thatis when you are on your back and
you're lifting your feet up,like how's your compression
(02:38):
strength through your abs andyour hip flexes?
And that's actually like areally important piece of the
puzzle that people forget thatpeople go, oh, my hamstrings are
tight, but often the other sideof that is they're not actually
that strong in the abs and inthe hip hip flexes to be in such
a tight compressed position.
So, first step is to be workingon that forward fold and just
(03:02):
see where you are, um, whetheryou're doing a J curl or just uh
doing different amounts ofhamstring work, and then the
other side of that is like umcan you do a dragon flag or are
you doing any like strongcompression work, toaster bar,
LC?
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (03:18):
Your take, Joey?
Yeah, I think all of that, Ithink um definitely like the
point of like you don't need tobe inverting a lot, like as part
of your game.
I like I've got all the physicalcapacity for it, but I don't
like inverting that much.
It just doesn't kind of, I don'tknow, doesn't feel right to me.
SPEAKER_04 (03:35):
It it there is a risk to reward.
Like if you spend a lot of timethere, even though it can give
you benefits from jujitsu, thereason I spend less time there
is the chance of injury ishigher.
Yeah, if someone just stacks onyou or just jumps on you and
you're in that position, thechance of uh disc and vertebrate
injury is high.
SPEAKER_03 (03:53):
Um, the other part of it is like the like
addressing just the movement ofyour spine generally.
And this is where the JKL isreally good, like the top
portion of that will sort ofgive you the core, like teach
you how to try to segment eachof your vertebrae, starting from
the top, working your way down.
Um, but I would be looking forother drills that also help with
(04:14):
that, right?
And just generally trying tobuild a little bit more what's
the word I would use yeah,tolerance, control of the spine.
Because most of us don't reallyknow how to articulate our spine
because we don't practice doingit.
Yeah, right.
Uh I'm not trying to recommendyou do spinal waves.
Oh, I thought you were gonna gothere, but spinal waves are
really good for this, but butyou know, especially for an old
(04:34):
for like a mature age person,right?
And I say mature, like as in anadult, anyone, if you've lived a
life where you haven't been likeworking on your spine, like
let's say you're a gymnast,let's say you're a dancer, um,
you do you're doing shit thatutilizes your spine a lot.
If you are not one of thosethings, your spine, you're
probably a little bitunintelligent when it comes to
(04:55):
trying to articulate it.
So I would just work on it moreand I would invert more in
training.
Yeah, you know, I hate tofucking say it.
JT's gonna blow up about thisone, but solo drills.
Oh, why you don't need to buy aDVD, you don't need to
subscribe, you just need to justdo some back rolls and shit,
just do some inversions on thewall and that kind of thing.
(05:17):
And I think over time you youlet your body know, like, hey,
I'm actually I'm all right withthis, the coordination's good,
and who knows?
After a bit of time, you mightbe able to weave it into your
roles.
SPEAKER_04 (05:25):
You don't have to go to the dark side to learn about
the force.
That's all I'm saying.
You can you can do plenty ofmobility drills, which are not
solo drills per se.
But Brie, I think it's it's it'sin you, you can do it.
It's as to whether or not youactually want to be one of those
people.
Because it it it does it doesbear a cost.
SPEAKER_03 (05:44):
That um that wall one is a real nice one where you
just sit facing, you're sittingon your bum facing the wall, you
know, you you you you're gonnayou're gonna invert to one side
and you're gonna walk your feetalong the wall.
Yeah.
And this is a re because you gota bit of feedback from the wall
and roll, and you just you canadjust it.
Yeah, that's a really great wayto start.
Uh second question coming infrom Jack.
SPEAKER_02 (06:15):
Refresh this podcast, I've been listening for
a few months now.
So I'm a white belt.
I've been training for a coupleof years, and I'm naturally I'm
hypermobile, so I'm naturallyquite flexible.
(06:37):
And early on I really leanedhard into learning guards like
the rubber guard.
Now, obviously, I'm doingsomething wrong because I'm a
white belt and I managed toinjure myself because I think I
ended up pushing my knees toofar and ended up paying for it.
So I guess my question is is forpeople who are hypermobile, what
(06:57):
guards or positions actuallymake sense to focus on?
And how can I use my flexibilitywithout just wrecking my body in
the process?
Thanks again for all the awesomecontent.
SPEAKER_04 (07:11):
Jack, that's a very good, responsible question.
Good question.
All right, so I I have a strongI have a strong take on this.
I have plenty of friends in the10th planet world and and you
know, some very flexible people.
Here's the thing if you arehypermobile and you your joints
move very easily in certainpositions because you are
(07:32):
relying on this, I wouldn't sayit's passive, but this kind of
default mode of being able tomove your joints further than
most people, you are stressingthe connective tissues.
You are not really using yourmuscles to their proper, you
know, proper limit.
And so in that way, you'rebecoming reliant on something, a
trait which is potentiallyinjurious.
(07:52):
And you've you've kind of foundthat out, right?
You've fucked around and foundout.
And I say that with no, I'm not,I I feel bad for you, man.
And it's not you didn't know andyou just had to try, right?
My general advice actually isbefore we even go to like
talking about styles of jujitsu,if you're someone out there who
knows they're hyper flexible,you need to start doing strength
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training.
Like if you do not, you arereally hanging all the stress on
your joints and you and you'redoing it in positions where it's
not stabilized.
So if you haven't done some formof strength training to help
reinforce the joints, thoseconnective tissues over time are
going to break down becauseyou're not doing work to
reinforce them.
(08:34):
I would say you finding a gamethat suits you.
Now, I don't know yourproportions.
Generally, if you are a flexibleperson, you will be able to find
ways to regard and findtriangles and do a variety of
things, which is great.
But before you go to the move ofwhat jujitsu should I be doing,
if you've been injured byrelying too much on your
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flexibility, I would encourageyou to start to reinforce your
joints with some strengthtraining before you go anywhere
else with your jujitsu.
SPEAKER_03 (09:01):
Yeah, well said.
I'd also say, um, yeah, not likewhat type of guards should I be
doing.
The type of guards you shouldnot be doing are the ones that
rely on your physicalsuperpower, which is
hypermobility.
Don't do those guards.
Like, um, maybe use them as aget out of jail free card, like
when you absolutely have to.
But if you are building a gamethat is reliant upon you taking
(09:26):
your joints to that end rangeall the time, you're only going
to be causing yourself damage.
And you'll see this at the elitelevel of guys who have like made
that deal with the devil, andlike, I don't give a fuck.
I want to win, and this is myfast, this is my and so that's
like fair enough in that realm.
But if you're trying to behealthy and live a long life and
train jujitsu for a long time,that doesn't work.
And you you're early in thejourney too.
Yeah.
(09:46):
I mean, hate to say it, but ifyou look at old school jujitsu,
that's the stuff that is prettyphysically safe for everyone.
Half guard, closed guard,butterfly guard, yeah, build a
bit of Delaheva in the Ghee.
Sure.
You know, um, like nothing supercrazy, right?
Sure.
Bit of Spider Guard.
SPEAKER_04 (10:04):
Yep.
SPEAKER_03 (10:04):
Um, but if you look at like if you look at a lot of
the a lot of the more modernstuff, it really is reliant on
like in particular the 10thplanet stuff.
Sure.
Right?
Like um What's that rubberguard?
Yeah, like Rubberguardspecifically.
Yeah, just you don't want to berelying on that shit.
SPEAKER_04 (10:19):
Um it's not to say don't save it, don't do it at
all.
SPEAKER_03 (10:23):
Know it.
Yeah, it's but don't make thatlike like if you're rolling,
right?
If you're if you're if you'rerolling in class, and let's say
you're doing 30 minutes ofrounds and you're trying three
times a week, if you're endingup in rubber guard in every role
for like prolonged periods oftime versus my go-to guard's
gonna be something a little bitmore fucking uh meat and
potatoes, gonna be somebutterfly or some X or whatever.
(10:45):
Sure.
And then every now and againwhen I'm getting fucked up, I'm
gonna go back to my back to myrubber guard shit.
I'm gonna you you're justreducing the amount of time
you're in that spot where yourknees are getting fucking
mashed.
I was actually rolling with aguy not long ago who had that
style of game.
I couldn't pass his guard.
His guard was so hard to pass,and then his knee popped.
Oh no, he just he fed he fed hishe grabbed his foot and he fed
(11:07):
it back in, and you know, and Iwas putting pressure on it and
then and he's like, oh, and Iwas like, uh, and I'm like, uh
like once the dust had settled,I'm like, maybe you just look at
your game, bro, because it's youknow, I I felt like it, I was
kind of waiting for something tohappen.
It's tough, it's so tough.
SPEAKER_04 (11:24):
And and the thing is we're all good to or not.
We're like, hey, this isworking, yeah.
And now you can't walk properly.
So man, not not not to wish thaton you, but uh ultimately for
the longevity piece, uh, we needto strengthen up those joints
outside of jujitsu.
So a little bit of strengthtraining.
This is my recommendation.
SPEAKER_03 (11:42):
Always, always strength training.
Jack, give us an update onceyou've watched done six or
twelve months of that.
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SPEAKER_03 (12:30):
Last question coming in.
SPEAKER_00 (12:32):
Kyoto boys, uh Kippa from Fangrey and Alteru and New
Zolon.
Uh first off, just wanted to sayum you guys uh the reason why
I've started uh Brazilian JiuJitsu.
Um I was uh 235 kgs at my max,um now down to uh 155.
(12:54):
Oh yeah.
Um had um gastric bypass surgeryin April this year.
Um my son wanted to do a martialart and we put him into BJJ, and
somehow I came across yourpodcast, and yeah, it's been
super inspiring.
So I just wanted to say thankyou for that.
Um my question is uh like I'mliterally like two weeks in and
(13:18):
uh I kind of don't know what I'mdoing.
Um we've had spas, etc.
Um, we've learned uh sometechniques uh in in the classes,
um, and I have a little bit ofknowledge from uh when my mates
used to go BJJ and then we usedto roll uh in the park.
But um what would you say wouldbe the best thing to focus on
(13:43):
right now?
Uh open guard, closed guard, uhsweeps, etc.
Thank you.
SPEAKER_04 (13:50):
Well, amazing.
Oh, Kyoto brother.
What a Keppel, what a legend!
SPEAKER_03 (13:54):
Man, that's fucking cool, bro.
Man, shout out to our our ourKiwi brothers and sisters.
Fangaday, I think I had one ofthe most memorable burgers of my
life in that town.
Oh, wow, they're with Paul yearsago when we'll when we were
working in New Zealand for aperiod.
Oh, amazing.
I had a sick, it was a beefburger with blue cheese in the
patty.
Wow, it was fuckingunbelievable.
It sounds special.
I hope they're still doing them.
SPEAKER_04 (14:13):
Yeah, well, look, this this is this is my advice.
Uh any any person that comes tome, it doesn't matter uh if
they're early in their firstyear, like say it's their first
year of jujitsu.
One of the most important thingsfor you to get a grip on is kind
of uh getting back to a positionof control.
So whether that's escapes ordefenses, like you're gonna
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spend more time getting kind ofbeat on than having success.
And that doesn't mean youshouldn't learn submissions or
you shouldn't learn attacks.
I'm not saying that, buthonestly, you will spend most of
your time defending.
And if you don't have gooddefense, even if you've got a
really good submission, you'reonly ever gonna find that a very
(14:58):
small percentage of the time.
So the sooner you improve yourdefense and the sooner you get
better at just moving andfinding a way back to some form
of control or neutrality, um,you're you're just gonna keep
floundering otherwise.
So my advice is if you can learnwhere you're safe and where
you're not, learn how to defendagainst the major attacks, and
(15:21):
then also you know, ask yourcoach, how do I go from where I
am now back to a point where Ican try some shit?
Because if you don't know thattransition, then yeah, you're
you're gonna be a bit stuck.
SPEAKER_03 (15:34):
Yeah.
I agree with JT's take, thoughI'm gonna offer you an
alternative, which is that twoweeks in, don't worry about it.
Just just keep doing just keepshowing up at this stage,
really, just because there'sthere's too much, there's too
many.
So much.
There's so much, and there's somuch, like not even technique,
but there's so much like new onthe mats.
You're probably like your body'sbeen through a big transition,
(15:55):
right?
Like, I don't know how youyou're gonna probably gonna be
the biggest guy on the mats.
Maybe that comes with its ownsort of considerations, and like
so.
I'm like, just just be there andjust learn whatever they're
teaching.
Um, but approach with the viewthat every lesson I want to walk
away with at least one thing, Ican improve.
SPEAKER_04 (16:12):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (16:13):
So if it is the case that oh fuck, I keep just
getting attacked, I keep gettingsubbed by the same thing, ask
the coach, how do I defend thatthing?
Yeah, right.
Or if I keep getting stuck inside control, all right, how do
I fucking get out of it?
Like, use that as a as a metric.
Let's say you get 12 months in,then it would be like, all
right, where should I start todirect my focus?
That would be my alternativetake.
SPEAKER_04 (16:34):
Well, no, I on that I would say don't repeat your
mistakes.
You can always make like makingmistakes is what jujitsu is, but
try not to keep making the samemistake.
Like make a mistake, learn, fix,and then make new mistakes.
And this will absolutely ensureyour development however you
approach the game.
Kippa, what a legend.
Oh, amazing.
SPEAKER_03 (16:53):
I love to hear the accent.
Fuck, I I wonder, I would loveto be able to hear that from
like an American listener's justto be like the first five three
seconds of that voice.
Like, what the fuck is this?
Like, did he know what languageis that?
We have to get subtitles on thisbad boy.
Um, guys, appreciate thevoicemails.
We've got a few more to getthrough, which we'll be
recording over time.
If you've left us one recently,we did take a small break
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because JT was traveling, and soum, don't fret, we will get to
it.
But please uh go to theBulletproof webpage and record
us a voicemail because we'd loveto hear from you guys.
Bulletproof for bjj.com.
Hit the podcast tab, big redrecord button, leave it, and
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Peace.
Appreciate you all.
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