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The first question today iscoming in from the ginger ninja
Do it?
Speaker 5 (01:00):
Hey guys, hope you're
well.
I'm just after your opinion onkids' heavy weightlifting.
I've seen an increase of kids'weightlifting recently and, in
particular, deadlifts.
Just after your opinions do wethink it's beneficial,
detrimental, et cetera?
I've sent through somereference videos in a
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bulletproof Instagram page.
She has, but just after yourthoughts, thank you.
Oh, but just after yourthoughts, thank you.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
Oh, what a fucking
great question and how
interesting, being that the lastquestion we covered on a recent
Q&A was about a fella, a lovelybloke, also an Aussie, who
wants to get his kids into someextra strength training.
That's right.
Look first thing we've got tosay is we are not an authority
on kids and strength training.
However, it has never stoppedus sharing our opinion, so let
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us proceed with that.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
What references?
Well, no, I, I would say well,I've trained kids, so this is
from ebony, ebony, strafford,from, uh, queensland.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
She came to the you,
I recognize the fucking.
Yeah, you knew, you know soshout out ebony um.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
She may not want it
to be named.
She sent me a video of EddieHall's son, who I think is like
14 big kid, right strong kid,lifting with terrible form.
Now Eddie Hall is a legendarylifter one of the greatest
deadlifter of all time.
Like right up there untilrecently, his deadlift record
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stood for a long time first guyto break like do 500 kilos.
But of all time like right upthere Until recently, his
deadlift record stood for a longtime right, the first guy to
break a like do 500 kilos.
But this video is his son withthe belt on round back all the
way.
And you're like is that whathe's meant to be doing?
Because don't get me wrongthere's a lot of discussion
around if having a rounded upperback is bad in deadlifting and
(02:45):
actually you know, eddie coneand a bunch of other top top all
the big strong guys are using aflex thoracic thoracic, but not
lumber.
No, no a flex.
I'm trying to keep it yeahbecause you it's really not set
up to take load at those top,top, top levels, right.
And so evany said she's likewhat do you think of this?
I'm'm like that's garbagetechnique and I'm sure you can
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have Eddie Hall co-signing it,but that's terrible, right.
And yes, I actually am a bigfan of getting young men and
women to lift weights, but withgood technique and this is
something we said before If yourtechnique holds up, then you're
good, right, like it's.
(03:27):
Yeah, please continue up untilthe point that you don't.
And I keep that rule foreverybody.
So I don't think it doesn'tmatter if it's a young person or
an older person.
You really can't make excusesfor techniques that are going to
lead to injury because we'renot in the gym to get fucking
injured, we're not trying to beheroes and really, really I
think it's irresponsible foradults to promote kids to go
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heavier and heavier if theirtechnique looks like shit yeah,
I think, um, like kids have a,like kids are fucking malleable.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
They are kids.
But like you, can you see it?
Like you like that kind ofvideo?
Right, a kid can do thisincredible feat lift this
obscene amount of weight withthe most fucked up posture that
an adult couldn't do, becausethey would just blow their disc
out or they or they'd have someother kind of um security
mechanism in their body.
Go, no, stop compensate.
Yeah, you know, and so I thinkthe thing is that we can't, like
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kids should be strengthtraining.
They should be lifting heavyrelative to their level of
strength and ability, but itdoesn't mean that we should be
like grossly overloading thingsand putting them into shit
positions just because they can.
Yeah, right, and this is thisis the dilemma, right With a for
a lot of kids is that theircoordination can be a little bit
funky, right, as they, asthey're growing.
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I don't think I'm ever going towant him to be lifting at that
upper end for a long time, butI'm absolutely happy for him to
be lifting well, at a moderatekind of intensity.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
You know what I mean.
But I mean you can see clips oflike young Chinese girls who
are doing Olympic weightlifting,lifting with immaculate form
and their body weight is likewhatever 35 kilos, and they're
lifting their body weight.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
But are they grinding
in that kind of?
Speaker 1 (05:17):
1RM thing that we no,
no, but they're working at a
very top end, but theirtechnique is fucking crisp.
And this is where I think we'vegot to be really clear that
even though a guy like EddieHall, who's got one of the
greatest deadlifts of all timeI'm not sure what kind of a
coach he is when he's standingthere on the sideline going go
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on, son, go on.
You know, and it's clearlyanyone outside I was like is
that wrong?
Cause even Ebony's like thatlooks wrong to me.
And I'm like, yes, yeah,because it's.
It's whatever you say.
His son's been lifting for alittle while.
His son's been lifting probablyas long as his dad's encouraged
him to do it.
Ultimately, if it could beinjurious, it is irresponsible
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for the adult to promote it.
That's my take on it.
So if you've got a kid withamazing technique and they can
do it safely, then you want toencourage different types of
load-bearing activity.
But dangerous techniques,dangerous techniques.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
I mean, this is the
beauty of like Olympic lifting
for kids.
Is that the technicality puts ahandbrake?
Speaker 5 (06:20):
on the intensity On
the load yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
Yeah, you know, and,
and you can just drill the fuck
out and kid will get strong,Right?
Yeah, Um, like like the Chineseweightlifters that we say, like
I would say that I've observedin gym culture and you would
have seen this too is thatdeadlifting, like heavy barbell
work, has become really popularamong kids?
It has, and there's this and Isee kids, and not kids like that
age, but like 15-year-olds,16-year-olds, Teenagers, young
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teenagers.
Fucking awful form, going superheavy, and I'm like, well, we
never did this.
I mean we never deadliftedright, not in my scene, it was
all just upper body bodybuildingshit Depends, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, but there's a trend goingon right.
They're seeing it and of course, some kids are doing that
really well, but a lot of themare just doing it dog, shit,
yeah, and so, yeah, it'sproblematic, poor coaching.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Good question and
like, based off those videos,
you're spot on in saying that Idon't think it's a problem with
weights.
I think it's a problem withtechnique and not learning it
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Next one, frederick.
Hi guys, frederick from Norwayhere.
I'm 22 years old, I've beendoing B2J for about seven months
white belt and I've been doingpowerlifting for seven years.
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I'm enjoying BJJ a lot, but I'mnoticing that the powerlifting
clashes a bit with my BJJ,especially when it comes to
weight groups, because I'm 183,roughly 150, 120 kilos,
depending on the day and if I'mtrying to get up my numbers and
(08:57):
stuff like that in powerlifting.
I recently had my first bdjtournament, uh, where I noticed
that the heavyweight classeswere too big for me, uh.
So I'm wondering how do Ifigure out what weight bracket
is best for me and what weightshould I cut down to?
(09:21):
What kind of process do I useto figure that out?
Because I'm not the tallest guyin the world and I feel like
that.
The weight issue I'm not tallenough to weigh what I'm
weighing, I guess afterexperiencing my first tournament
.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
So how do I decide my
weight class?
Speaker 3 (09:41):
I guess.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
Okay, I got it.
How tall did he say what's?
Speaker 5 (09:43):
183 by 120?
.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Fuck.
So is my height 120 kilos,Power lifter.
Unit 22 solid Unit Hench bra.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
Hey, norway, love to
hear it.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Yeah, dude, visit the
country, once Beautiful, strong
, of the North.
Look, I'm going to say thisBecause it's your first comp.
I don't think that's reflective, right Like I think you can be
your weight and your height anddo well, but no, there's some
big motherfuckers out there andwhen you're in that super
(10:19):
heavyweight category.
It's open.
Right, you're now in the opens,you?
What is it like?
110 plus huffthor could show up, yeah, yeah, I think it's 99 to
110, and then it's like 110above, depending on what comp
you're in.
And generally when you're doinglocal comps you're weighing in
on the day.
So there's cutting weight kindof doesn't make a whole lot of
sense.
Yes, could you maybe be lighter?
But here's my question for you,my solid friend how much are
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you prioritizing jiu-jitsu andhow much are you prioritizing
powerlifting?
Because when you drop thatweight, you're going to notice
that your max strength does godown a little bit.
Right, and that's you've got towork out what you're optimizing
for.
You will be more efficient,move better, you know, feel
lighter, have more energy ifyou're lighter.
Right, it's just that simple.
(11:03):
It doesn't matter who you are,but you're going to notice your
top-end lifts for SBD it will beharder to keep them as heavy as
they might be now.
So I think you've got to make alittle bit of a choice of like
well, if I'm prioritizingjiu-jitsu, I have to accept my
strength might go down a littlebit if I am going to try and
lose a bit of weight here.
An important thing to understand, and I don't know because I've
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never seen you right, butthere's a guy called Honório.
You may have seen him.
He's a GFT guy.
He's a fucking unit.
I think he's one of the specialpolice in Brazil.
This guy is not tall, he fightsin the heavyweights and he
regularly wins the absolute, andhe is significantly shorter
(11:45):
than people.
So I don't think being shorterand being solid is necessarily
your biggest problem.
But, that said, as you gainmore experience, I would
recommend maybe checking outyour body composition, like how
much is muscle, how much is fat?
It will be more efficient foryou to be a fraction lighter and
what I'd say is just work outwhat is your composition.
If you've got a little bit morebody weight, that's, a bit more
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adipose tissue, then maybeyou're getting light as there.
But if you've got the densestbones and you're just like you
know, just a nugget of a human,maybe it's getting better at
what you already got.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
Yeah, I mean, yeah, I
agree in that you've only done
one comp, so you can't go offreally the data, because it's
not enough exposure to know.
But, man, if you've beenpowerlifting for seven years,
you are going to have a distinctstrength advantage on everybody
.
And I would think like Iremember competing against guys
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who were shorter and nuggetierthan me, and I actually hated
competing.
I'd prefer a bigger guy becauseit just felt like I could
control a bigger guy because Ijust felt like I could control a
bigger guy easier.
So I actually think you shouldbe able to like it, shouldn't?
None of this should be adisadvantage for you.
You got to just find how tomake it an advantage.
That's right.
And look, if you're 120 andyou're competing against someone
(12:59):
who's 140, you are smaller andfaster and more agile than they
are.
And that's going to be youradvantage against them.
All things being more or lessequal, so I would not change
anything drastically.
I'd just stick with it andfucking see how you go, because
you sound like you could be areal nightmare.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Yeah, it sounds like
your athletic potential is huge
in jiu-jitsu, but I would justsay, maybe do a DEXA scan and
find out what is the compositionhere, because maybe there's not
a bunch of weight for you tolose and play with it right?
You're early in the journey.
You're young Mate, fuck aroundand find out.
I think you're going to becomea monster, he's like oh.
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I'm 2% body fat Fuck a monster.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
He's like I'm two
percent body fat.
Wow, you're like damn.
What's that like bro?
Third one for the day coming inanonymous people is hiding
their identity strange hey bluebelt here.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Uh, my question is
should I go back to training in
the gi?
Um, yes, for context, I've beendoing jiu-jitsu for about four
years now and I originallystarted off in the gi, but um
got kind of pulled into thewhole like no gi allure and uh
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started training exclusively inno gi and kind of got obsessed
with no gi and I haven't trainedin the gi in like such a long
time.
Right.
Um, now, uh, after university,I moved back with my folks and
I've been training at a 10thplanet gym, which is really cool
.
The only problem is is that thehours really don't align with
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mine and so I can't get as muchtraining as I want to um, since
I have to, unfortunately, go towork.
But a other gym opened up nearbyme, but it's a gi exclusive gym
, and so I've been debatingwhether or not I want to spend
(15:03):
the money to do cross training,just so.
You know I can improve myjujitsu.
So I wanted to know if youthink it's a worthwhile
investment for me to um starttraining Gi, even though I know
I exclusively just wanted tolike compete in no Gi
tournaments and such.
Uh.
Thank you Also.
(15:23):
I love this podcast.
It's very swag uh thank youalso.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
I love this podcast.
It's very swag, great.
Thank you, man.
Blue belt, the man whoidentifies as blue belt.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
I like it.
Look, I'm gonna say yes, butthat comes with its own bunch of
hard right, I think what?
Speaker 4 (15:40):
yes to going and
training go train the geek.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
But it's playing on
hard mode in the sense that if
you haven't trained the game ina while and, like you know, I
haven't trained the gi in awhile and, like you know, I
hadn't trained the gi in a whileI did an open mat a little
while ago in the gi.
Immediately got like gi grazeon my face, Knuckles like
straight away.
Oh my God, the fingers hurt.
You know there's all thesethings.
And also I got twisted upbecause someone had my pants leg
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and I was like trying to getand they're twisting me and I'm,
you know, framing and itcontorts you in a way that
usually in no gi you just youknow you can slip out, yeah.
And so I believe that, eventhough there are these kind of
negative side effects oftraining in the gi, the good
thing about it is it does slowthe game down a little bit and
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it makes you think and in thatway that is helpful for jujitsu.
I'm not saying gi jujitsudirectly translates to no gi, no
, I am not saying that.
But if it means you get totrain more, even though you've
trained for a while and you're ablue belt, I think it will
still help you develop.
Because, if I, if you're onlytraining once a week, if that at
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the 10th plant gym, even if youlove it, your progression will
stall.
You're a blue belt.
We want to see you get topurple Like I think.
If whatever enables you to geta bit more training in, I think
that's the choice.
Speaker 4 (16:59):
Yeah, I would agree.
I think, just getting it in, ifit's choice of like in the gate
or just not doing jits, do itman, the.
Yeah, I mean I guess, like youknow, you're at blue belt now,
so you, you know you're at atime where you might want to
start to specialize, but I wouldthink that taking time off the
mats because it doesn't have theexact flavor that you want
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doesn't really make sense and,to be honest, like you can just
work your no-gi game in the gate.
Yeah.
Of course you've, and to behonest, like you can just work
your no-gi game in the gi.
Yeah, of course you got to dealwith the fuckery of someone
that's putting you in a reversede la worm or a yeah using your
lapel, yeah, like, and then thatall.
Yeah, we all hate that, but youknow you can just be doing your
same shit and getting better sothat you're keeping the blade
sharp when you're back on theno-gi mats yeah, no, I think the
(17:42):
option that allows you to trainand stay on the mats is the
option.
Yeah, for sure, and and you knowwhat actually there's, back
when we started, it was just youjust did both, yeah, and it
just didn't matter.
And in my mind it still doesn'tmatter, it's more.
It's more divided now and we'vespoken about this a lot and
they're kind of separating asworlds, but this a lot, and
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they're kind of separating asworlds, but you can also just
look at it as the same shit,it's all grappling.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Yeah, you know what I
mean.
Yeah, it's just like differentparameters.
This is like you know if you'replaying a game when you're a
kid and then you just includelike a new rule.
So I feel the same way.
If I'm doing judo, I knowcertain grips I can't take, but
it's like okay, all I have to dois put this guy on the ground.
Seems kind of easy, like noteasy, but it's.
It's easier than I put him onthe ground and now I gotta pass
his guard, now I gotta.
If I can just put thismotherfucker on the ground, I
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win.
That feels like an easier gameto me because it's it.
But it's just a different ruleset and same thing with
wrestling, same thing.
Any kind of grappling you do.
You just look at us like oh,it's just a slightly different
take on a similar game, yeah,and, and just make it more fun
for yourself.
Don't get like hard-baked intothe ideology of just no gear,
(18:50):
just gear, whatever the fuckyeah, I um appreciate the
questions today.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
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