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SPEAKER_02 (00:00):
Brother, society is crumbling, and you want to know
what the number one indicator ofa crumbling society is.
Oh, do tell.
It's poor gym etiquette.
Oh, snap! The gym is at theforefront.
The gym is the canary in thecoal mine, if you will.
SPEAKER_00 (00:14):
Oh.
SPEAKER_02 (00:14):
Of uh of how a society is doing.
And when when uh decorum startsto fall apart at the gym, that
lets you know that that we're onthe slide here.
Oof, all right.
I had a I had a run-in with awith a bloke the other day.
You know what?
I thought it's important we havethis conversation because we're
pushing people to gyms.
Yeah, we encourage it.
We encourage it, right?
And uh and gyms are a greatplace.
(00:35):
Um can be.
Can be, can be, yeah, yeah.
You know, find everything, can'tyou?
Mixed results.
Um, but as you would experiencein day-to-day life, uh, I'm
sure, and I'm I'm hoping I'msure the listeners would would
vibe with this, people arelosing their ability to sort of
socialize with strangers.
SPEAKER_01 (00:54):
Yeah, the social interaction, as much as we love
technology, we have started tolose certain skills.
Yeah, for sure.
SPEAKER_02 (01:02):
Yeah.
And you look at you look at theyounger generations, they're
just not particularly good attalking.
I I mean, I I find it quiteinteresting to see, like, I I
love seeing the I love seeingthe younger generation at the
gym.
You particularly see big crewsof young, young boys.
Oh, yeah, or young men, which isgreat.
The odd thing though is thatthey're all wearing their
headphones, and you're like, whyare you guys wearing headphones?
Like, I thought you'd be talkingto each other.
(01:23):
Anyway, that's an aside.
What I wanted to get at here waspeople need to know if they're
gonna go to the gym, there's abit of etiquette to follow.
And if we're trying to helppeople to build their bodies for
jujitsu, but to also like begood contributing members of
society and that micro gymsociety, yes, there's a couple
of bits of etiquette you need tobe aware of.
SPEAKER_01 (01:44):
It's true, similar to a BJJ gym, you can add or
subtract from the culture,right?
And so you you may not know thatyou are necessarily being a good
contributing member, or maybeyou're being a jerk.
That's exactly right.
We've got to talk about it.
SPEAKER_02 (01:58):
Yeah, and sometimes you might just be contributing
to a uh uh like a bit of a jerkyculture without having that
intention, right?
Yeah.
So I'll tell you where thisexchange came from.
Oh, do tell.
So on the days when I work fromhome, I go to a globo gym near
my place.
Big fucking shiny joint.
It's like a health club.
It's like a it's like a it'slike a a working class health
(02:20):
club.
So it's not super expensive, butit has a sauna and a steam room
and a shitty pool.
And tennis courts.
The oldies love the tenniscourts.
Anyway, so I go to the gymthere, and you know, most of the
people in the gym there, I judgethe shit out of them.
Why not?
Naturally, right?
Don't don't we all?
Yeah, I'm just like, you don'tknow what you're doing.
You know, no, you don't know,you don't know.
But every now and again I'mlike, oh potential, oh,
(02:42):
someone's doing something here.
Oh, that's a nice back squat.
Yeah, oh shit, look at look atthat woman's chin up.
Wow, that was full range ofmotion.
So, you know, you sit thesethings stand out to you.
And there's a bloke, uh, um uhwhat would I say, like an like
an older fella, middle age, he'sprobably I mean, the funny thing
is he's probably only about ourage.
But he just looks old, livedharder.
(03:03):
Yeah, and I just think I'myounger.
I always think I'm younger thanI am.
You might even be younger thanJoey.
Yeah, that's right.
Continue.
But I I reckon he's probablyhe's probably in his early 50s,
um, which is not my age, to beclear, and uh, or JT's even.
And um he uh with the fuckingsame age.
Yeah, like Joey's just like, I'mclearly years younger than JT's
(03:23):
like what I would say.
What do you want me to tell you?
Please continue.
Um, but he's you know, so he'suh so he's not a gentleman, and
he he always comes in, and uh Inotice him because he's because
he's big, he looks like he'sbeen lifting weights in a garage
gym forever.
SPEAKER_00 (03:36):
Yep.
SPEAKER_02 (03:36):
And he's always on the squat racks.
Yeah, nice.
And he benches and he deads, umand he and he does some rowing
and he's he's usually doing goodstuff, and he takes his time and
you know he's he lifts heavyweight and he takes long rest
periods.
Yep now that instantly standsout in a globo gym.
Sure.
Because most people don't dothat, right?
Right.
They're not doing they're notdoing a lot of barbell stuff,
(03:57):
and if they do, they're notparticularly good at it.
You can see that they're notparticularly, they've never been
coached, and they're definitelynot pushing much weight or
taking long rest periods.
So he stands out to me, and I'vealways I've always been like,
ah, it's it's old mate.
Yeah, I like this guy.
But he's very um, he's very likeI'm you know, I try to make eyes
and give an acknowledgement.
He's never up for it.
I'm like, that's fine, whatever.
Anyways, um, I was he was therethe other day, and he was in the
(04:22):
squat rack next to me, and I wasdoing, I think I was doing some
weighted chins, and uh he wasthere with what appeared to be
his son.
Sure.
Right, and he him and he and hisson were benching together, and
I was like, Oh, that's fuckingcool, you know.
That's nice.
Son looks like he's probablyabout you know 15 or something
like that.
Yep.
And um I'm I'm building up mysets and I'm you know, my the
(04:44):
the squat rack that I'm in, it'syou know, it's like a like a
classic kind of, it's got likeweights stored on the side, and
then there's three squat racks,and they all have weights stored
on the side, and it's a fuckingmess, right?
Yep, no one's looking after it.
And um he comes over.
Maybe I maybe I'd startedbenching at this point, and he
(05:04):
comes over and um grabs weightsoff my squat rack, right?
Right?
And he'd done it, I think he'ddone it once before, and I was
like, I gotta mention to himthat that I that's not cool.
I'm using that.
Yeah, I'm gonna use that, right?
Yeah, and um he came over and heI'm just trying to recall here.
(05:26):
He grabbed he grabbed theweight, he took it back, and
then and I think he hadheadphones in or idea.
And anyway, I called him on hisnext rest period.
Yep, he came over to grabanother thing or something, and
I was like, hey man, I was like,um, you you look like you got
some like gym experience.
Like, where where have you doneyour training at?
Yeah, and uh I'm trying to givehim some props, you know, and
he's like, and he's like, ohhere, like I've always I've
(05:47):
always trained here, and I waslike, oh no shit.
And I was like, oh I've I'veseen you lift and like you've
got you know good technique, andso he's like, Oh yeah, thanks,
you know, try to try to do thething and you know, try to be
consistent, whatever.
And we had a little kind ofnothing exchange about you know
the gym and whatever.
SPEAKER_00 (06:00):
Sure.
SPEAKER_02 (06:02):
And I said, Um, hey man, I um uh, you know, just
from an etiquette point of view,like where I where I usually
train, um, I would always asksomeone if I was gonna take if I
was gonna take weights from thethe rack that they're using.
Yeah, yeah.
And he's like, oh yeah, he said,um, he said, oh yeah, he said,
yeah, for for us here, it's justkind of fair game.
(06:23):
It's a bit of a mess, so anyweights are fair game.
So he he blatantly like knockedback my attempt to block, yeah.
Block.
It was a it was he was justlike, yeah, no, that's not how I
fuck.
I don't care.
And I was like, oh fuck thiscunt.
So I'm like, where do I go withthis?
And I said, Well, you know what,man?
I said, I'll give you myassurance, I'll never come and
take any weights off your squatrack while you're using it.
(06:45):
I'll always ask.
And he said, and I'll never comeand interrupt you when you're in
the middle of a set.
Wee, what an edge.
And I was like, fuck, gotta,gotta pay props.
He, you know, whatever, hemanaged that well, and he kind
of he he was like, Yeah, no, I'mnot, I'm not playing that game.
But but you know, but he but hehe stayed in the pocket and we
(07:06):
had the exchange and it wasdone.
SPEAKER_00 (07:07):
Sure.
SPEAKER_02 (07:08):
You know, and uh and I you know I haven't seen him
since, but I'll say good day andwhatever.
SPEAKER_01 (07:12):
But it made me think uh fucking black mark against
that guy.
He's on the fucking if I seehim, if I go to the gym with
you, Joey, and I see him, I'lltake the weights off his fucking
barbell.
I'll take the weights off oneside of his fucking barbell for
the game.
And if he wants to have adisagreement about it, it's
gonna turn into BJJ WorldTelevision.
I fucking tell you, man, that isrude.
(07:34):
Fuck that guy.
SPEAKER_02 (07:35):
So, you know, so you know, whatever.
I thought he I thought hehandled himself well.
I gotta I gotta respect it.
And um, but I've hadconversations with a few young
blokes there, sure.
Where it's usually they're theygot their earphones on, they're
kind of not thinking, and theycome and grab weights.
Sure.
And I usually have to followthem back to their thing because
they're like running off withthe weights and they can't hear
you.
Yes.
So you've got to kind of get infront of their eyes, and then
they're like, oh hey man, you'relike, oh hey, brother, next time
(07:56):
you want the thing, just ask mebecause I might need to use
that.
And then and I found thatthey've always been receptive.
Oh, yeah, no worries, man.
You know, they're they're coolabout it.
But these these young blokes andsome old blokes, no one's ever
taught them, hey man, there's asystem here, you know, and this
system is we uh we kind of lookout for each other and we're
we're in this environmenttogether.
Sure.
And so I thought, well, maybe wecould just have a very general
(08:19):
discussion about what are whatare some of those points of
etiquette that are important tomaintain the kind of culture one
wants to train in, a productiveenvironment for all of the
people in there.
SPEAKER_01 (08:29):
I think something that I have learned relevant to
that, the first point, is adegree of acknowledgement.
I think that's important.
I don't, I don't, I don't, itdoesn't matter if it's BJJ or
uh, you know, lifting gym or inany social situation, even if
you don't really like the personor whatever, just as a as a
(08:50):
basic form of respect, justacknowledge someone.
Like that, I feel that'simportant.
And I mean you may haveexperienced this, Joe, with when
you're driving, you know, youcan wave.
You let someone in.
It's just a small thing.
We do it here in Australia, youknow, wherever you are in the
world, it's we do it in a veryminimal, you know, like you
don't even lift your hands, youdon't even necessarily wave, you
(09:11):
just give the little or a littlenod, or it's sometimes people
will lift their hand up, youknow.
You can flash your hazards.
Yeah, hey, you go, let you in,you know.
And what's so funny about theacknowledgement piece is you're
trying to, it's just a gestureof goodwill.
But me when I'm driving, and I'mgenerally caffeinated when I'm
driving because I'm going to thegym or I'm trying to get
something done.
(09:31):
I can go from polite, good, goodperson.
If I let you in and be like,yeah, you go, no
acknowledgement, I'm gonnafucking murder you.
Yeah, I go from polite tohomicidal maniac.
That's Liam Neeson.
So quick, bro.
Like I will wipe, I will KaiserSosa your entire bloodline.
SPEAKER_02 (09:48):
Your whole family is gone.
SPEAKER_01 (09:50):
And and I guess it's not quite like that in the gym,
but I, you know, I train at agym where there I am the lowest
rung, right?
There is some big dogs in there,and they're so friendly.
And they they will often say tome, I feel like I'm the white
belt, right?
But oh man, you're using that.
I'm like, nah, dude, like youtake whatever you want.
Like, I'm just trying to not getin the way here.
(10:11):
And so I think also learningthat from other like black belts
and world champions, likethere's a degree of it's not
even humility, it's just basiclevel respect to say, oh hey
man, like, are you using that orcan I put that?
You know, it's just very, verysimple.
And then so basic.
It is very basic, basichumanity, I would argue.
(10:31):
It is, and this is what you'resaying, Joe, the crumbling of
society, it's showing up in thegym.
SPEAKER_02 (10:36):
Well, and you know, like not even not even being
ironic or funny about it.
I I was reading a book um uhearlier this year.
It's a small thing on liketyranny, like the nine, twelve,
something, yeah, 12 kind ofsmall chapters on tyranny.
And one of the things is like,it's like 12 things you can do
to stop tyranny.
And one of the things is likemake eye contact with your
(10:57):
neighbors, say hello to people,like be part of the community.
Don't, don't shut yourself offfrom the people that are around
you.
Um, because that that is a layerthat once removed, it's easier
for then, whatever.
It's easy for tyrannical, yeah,right?
For seg yeah, for you to becomeisolated, for tyrannical
elements to take advantage ofthat, etc.
(11:18):
But so I'm you know, and I'm allabout that.
But it's like, yeah, it's likefucking make like if you make
make some eye contact, hey, hey,what's up, or eyebrows, or you
know, yeah.
Just but simple.
Whereas like it in that gym,people are so bad at it.
And it's not, it's not them.
Like, I'm sure they're great atit in other countries.
SPEAKER_01 (11:38):
That people are not giving a fuck about each other.
Do you think that's what it is?
SPEAKER_02 (11:42):
Yeah, I I do.
I think it's well, I think theculture is sort of dictated from
um from the top in a way.
And what I could say I observethere is that the sort of PTs
who work there, in a way, eventhough if you're not doing PT,
you don't have anything to dowith them, they are kind of the
leaders of that gym, right?
They they walk around, they gotthe uniform.
(12:03):
If you have a question, youmight ask them.
Sure.
Um, and they don't say hello.
SPEAKER_01 (12:08):
Right.
SPEAKER_02 (12:09):
They don't set any kind of tone of like, oh, we say
hi.
Oh, hey, what's up, man?
Good to see you.
You know, hey, dude.
Like, there's none of that.
And so, because they're all,they're all equally fearful,
like the regular citizens inthere, of fucking making eye
contact and saying hi to astranger, you know?
And then sometimes you you likeuh like I've broken ice with a
bunch of them, but still theyfreeze over again the next time.
(12:32):
You're like, man, we had afucking conversation last time.
Like we can say hi now.
SPEAKER_01 (12:35):
It's okay, you know?
SPEAKER_02 (12:36):
We're cool.
But I but I really do feel likethat's a thing because I I think
about like this gym or you likeJung Brothers, or you think
about any jujitsu academy that'spretty social.
You know, once it's clearlyestablished that oh, we say hi
to each other here because we'reall kind of friends, yeah, then
that's just what happens.
Yeah, it's friendly.
Yeah, it's it's not it doesn'ttake a lot to maintain that.
SPEAKER_01 (12:55):
No, it's it's lower, I think it's lower friction than
people think.
Um and and look, you know, it itmakes the overall experience
nicer, right?
Like I accidentally got into aconversation with a fella who
you know, and I you know, I tryto keep things pretty surface
level because I'm trying to getmy workout done, but I I do
believe, you know, you'd be benice to people in the gym.
(13:17):
And I didn't want a spot fromthis guy, um, but this guy he he
really wanted to give me a spot,and so I was like, Oh, well, I
don't want to be a he wanted tobecause you were busy.
He's like, Oh, you want a spot?
And I was like, Oh yeah, like goon, you know, and then he
proceeded to tell me his lifestory.
Like, I was like, This guy hascorked my work out.
(13:38):
We are 30 minutes later, andhe's like, Yeah, mate, and then
the crane collapsed, and thisguy died, and I was like, Whoa,
bro.
Like it's like that's not what Imeant, but you know, whatever.
Like, we are now familiar, but Ialso now know from that exchange
to just minimize the exchange,yeah.
(13:58):
And I think this is another goodthing of getting to know the
people around you, whether it'sin the gym, uh, you know, at
BJJ, in your um neck of thewoods, your neighborhood, you
also know, like, oh, stay awayfrom that guy.
Like, right?
You know, just be like, hey,yeah, I don't want to hear about
what happened at at your fuckingpsychologist meeting.
Yeah, you know what I mean?
(14:19):
Like you also get to that's aand I think that that's a social
nuance too, with the exchange.
If you never have the exchange,you also don't know who the
fucking psychos are.
SPEAKER_02 (14:29):
Yeah, you know what I mean?
No, like acknowledging someoneis also clocking them, yes,
isn't it?
Yeah, and I do, I really do feelfrom a, and this isn't in the
gym, this is on the streets, butfrom that personal security
standpoint, yeah, and I teachthis to my kids, is like when
you look someone in the eyes andyou and you say hi or you
acknowledge them, that also letsthem know that you're now
(14:50):
they're now on your radar.
Yes, and that puts you in asafer position versus you
pretending they're not there ifthat person were to be a
predator.
SPEAKER_00 (14:58):
Yes.
SPEAKER_02 (14:59):
I think that makes you like an easier target.
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Well, let me and I don't want tocorrupt this because this is
your your chat, Joe, butawareness.
Bruce Lee actually, in one ofhis books, talks about the first
step in self-defense isawareness.
And he would talk about how hewould walk into a room and just
critically analyze exits,threats, how thick is that guy's
(16:03):
neck?
Yeah, you know, like could Ifront kick that guy through the
window?
Like he was 24, like he wasobsessive.
Yeah, but he said that like thebiggest problem is like if you
sense a threat on your side ofthe road or there's shadow and
you can't see down the otherway, go to the other side of the
road where there's light and youcan see.
And he's saying that like thebiggest problem is most people
are not aware.
I actually think this is alsotrue in a gym because sometimes
(16:25):
people are not paying attentionto each other because they've
got their headphones on, and youcan't see that this guy's
walking that weight out, or youcan't see there's a woman doing
walking lunges there.
And this is this is like notthat this is creating massive
accidents, but it's kind ofprobably the lack of a weight.
It's dulling your senses, and itand it and it can create bad
vibes too, especially if someonemoves a bench and then like I I
(16:50):
witnessed this similarly.
Like I was when I was in theStates recently, I could only
train at like uh big crunch uhfitness gym, and it was absolute
a fight.
It wasn't even a question ofhaving a discussion.
Like I did, I did get into achat with a few folks, but I
literally it was like a comedy.
I saw a guy pick up somedumbbells, just put them down,
(17:10):
like trying to, you know, yougotta kind of claim your corner.
He put the dumbbells down, heturned around, and someone just
picked them up and walked offwith them.
He turned back around, he'slike, and he couldn't even pick
in the crowd who who took hisdumbbells right.
I was like, this is a fuckingcomedy, but also minor tragedy,
right?
SPEAKER_02 (17:25):
Yeah, I mean that's that's the whole part of it,
right?
Like, is that just like thatlack of it's our greatest
fucking privilege that we can beoblivious to our environment.
Yes, the fact that you can justso safe, yeah.
And any motherfucker that'straveled to Rio, no one's doing
that.
Or South America or no one'swalking around fucking Rio with
their headphones on, right?
(17:46):
No, no one's walking around justyapping on their phone like with
their fucking AirPods becausemotherfucker, some kid on a bike
will pull up and put a gun toyour head and take that shit.
Yeah.
And it's like it's like it'sgreat that we don't have to deal
with that, you know.
There's no kids on bikes here inSydney with the pistol, but it's
like there's still something,like it's not, it's not just
(18:07):
like the fact that you don'thave to do that doesn't make
life better.
It actually makes it worsebecause you do just isolate
yourself from the whole shit.
SPEAKER_01 (18:14):
Yeah, it's like having the lower stressor means
you lose the muscles of thosemuscles you need to work to
function in an interactivesociety.
SPEAKER_02 (18:24):
Yeah, spot on.
And we all know this, like likesay I have this at the gym
regularly at that gym, wherebyyou see someone that you don't
know, like you've seen aroundthere, but you've you've never
connected with them, and youmake an instant judgment of
them, right?
You see, you'd be like, Oh, thisguy looks like a fuckwit, or or
oh yeah, she looks she looksfriendly, or whatever.
She looks friendly.
(18:45):
And then and then vice versa.
They and then you connect atsome point, you have an
exchange, then you're like, oh,person's a legend.
Cool.
Like your your perception, andthen it totally changes.
And it's just like, I thinkthat's the importance of the
acknowledgement, right?
And just allowing yourself to beavailable to just meet a
stranger.
Yeah.
I I think the biggest all youfucking single cunts, Jesus
(19:07):
Christ.
The gym is a fucking great placeto meet someone if you're
looking for a romantic partner.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, I know so everyone'susing apps and shit.
It's like, motherfuckers,there's people out there on the
street that are like could bethe person that you would love
to spend the rest of your lifewith.
Why not just make yourselfavailable to it at the very
least?
SPEAKER_01 (19:24):
I think the challenge in the current gym
environment for you out there,if you've if you're not someone
who uses a gym regularly, ifthat's not your thing, but you
through any kind of advice ormotivation, you've gone, you
know what, I'm gonna join a gym,I'm gonna start training.
The game has changed a littlebit in terms of you know, people
(19:44):
filming themselves.
And you know, like, you know, asyou could have a gym crash, but
you're do I talk to them?
Like, don't want to harass them,you know, like there's there's
these these social dynamics, butI think what we want to get to
here, you know go borrow weightsoff their rack and say, Oh, I'm
so do you mind if I borrow this?
SPEAKER_02 (20:00):
Like it's a fucking end, dude.
SPEAKER_01 (20:02):
Oh, oh, for sure, for sure.
SPEAKER_02 (20:03):
Yeah, be polite.
Yeah, press this button on yourtreadmill real quick.
Do you mind?
SPEAKER_01 (20:07):
You need a bit of incline there?
No.
But I think that yeah, it it haschanged over time.
But what has, I guess, you know,what informs this chat for you,
Joe, being having been atrainer, spent so many years in
different gyms, being a gymowner, and the culture that you
guys have raised and built hereis a culture of community.
(20:28):
And I think that's what makes uhJungle Brothers and Jungle
Botany and the whole junglephilosophy strong, is it's about
people interacting with eachother.
And so through the training, youyou kind of force people to
interact, but then it it's nicethat very organically people go,
oh, let's go for coffee andlet's this and let's that.
And I think good gyms do dothat.
(20:49):
But let's maybe get to what isgoing to be a good short guide
for people who are not used tothis alien gym environment.
What are the what are the thingswe feel that um people should
just be aware of to be a goodgym participant?
SPEAKER_02 (21:04):
All right, well, like it's we kind of like just
rapid fire.
I think um acknowledge thosearound you and make yourself
available to connect withsomeone.
Yep.
All right, okay, what's goingon?
Handshake, form, whatever youlike.
Um be like be tidy and like putyour shit away.
SPEAKER_01 (21:20):
See, that's a super putting putting the weights away
is actually a lost art.
Now I'm a I'm a trainer, so Ihave always put the weights
back.
SPEAKER_00 (21:27):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (21:28):
And even though I don't feel like I should,
because I'm not being paid, I'mjust in some random gym.
I habitually do, I can't like ifthe rack is there and there's
like a bunch of 20s on thefloor, I'm like, fuck no.
Like I'm gonna I gotta put itthere.
Like it's just so it's soingrained in me.
SPEAKER_02 (21:46):
If we're if if we're working in the kitchen together
and we're trying to cook up astorm, you're making your and
I'm and it's like, well, theknives go there, the bowls are
there, we keep the the benchspaces clear.
Yeah, yeah.
There's a system, right, tobeing productive and making a
nice meal.
Same shit in the gym.
Yeah, you want to have goodworkout, shit need like if shit
is where it's meant to be, theneveryone's good and can get done
what they need to.
Flush the fucking toilet whenyou're finished.
SPEAKER_01 (22:08):
Jesus.
Oh yeah, there you go.
How fucking simple is it?
It's just that I I think this ishonestly a breakdown in the
communication because people arenot taught, you know, like it's
oh, it's a 24 gym, 24-hour gym,people come in at random times.
People are not taught to carefor the thing, therefore they
don't know what they don't know.
You know, and I'm not I'm nothating on someone who doesn't,
(22:31):
who's never been taught, but youknow, if we think about other
things in life, whether it's putyour shoes in the shoe rack or
whatever the fuck it is thatyou've learned in your life, the
gym is just another facet of oflife.
And if you give it care andrespect, it makes the place
better.
And so therefore, like bringthat.
(22:52):
Like, not it's not like ohyou've got to re reorganize the
whole gym, but yeah, you know,like you see some litter on the
ground, chuck it in the bin.
You know what I mean?
Like you didn't put it there,but it's better that you do the
good thing, right?
SPEAKER_02 (23:03):
Yep, and so I think treat it like it's your own
joint, yeah, exactly.
Or or maybe treat it like it'snicer than your joint because
some people are probably fuckingslobs, possibly, and so yeah,
put the weights back, what'snext?
Oh fucking, do I got any more?
You know, really, I I thinkthat's kind of it.
Like, is just be be like afunctioning contributor to this
micro environment.
(23:24):
Yeah, that's really what I thinkthat would change it a lot for
folks, yeah.
And it and it and it allows youalso to to cultivate your own
comfort there.
Because a lot of people go tothe gym being nervous and like,
and that's totally normal.
But so once you know a fewpeople, you can say some get
a's, you're like, oh fuck, I'mactually like it's cool here.
I got nothing to be scared of.
And I think that's a that's anice state to train in.
SPEAKER_01 (23:46):
Yeah, yeah.
And I I mean, for me, I alwaysthe thing that I have learned
from a young age, because I Iused to get I used to get
bullied when I was a little kid,so I had to like come up with
some survival methods, and I wasalways the least dangerous
person in the room, I was alwaysthe kind of uh patsy or the
punching bag.
But what I realized is if youmake friends with the craziest
(24:08):
person in the room, it makes yousafer.
So I would always identify whois the fucking maniac.
Because if at least if you're ongood terms with the maniac, they
may not attack you first.
I'm not saying you're completelysafe, but you know, there's an
element to that.
So I used to clock this socialdynamic.
I go into any room and be like,who's the most dangerous person
(24:28):
here?
Just be on their good side.
You know what I mean?
Like as and that that was asurvival mechanism from
childhood.
Whereas now I am usually themost dangerous person in the
room, but uh I try not to letthat creep into my thoughts too
much.
You know that meme where theguy's in the corner and the the
party's gone, they don't evenknow I'm a black belt in two
martial arts and I can deadliftover 200 kilos.
(24:48):
Uh, it's not, you know, it's notlike that.
But for sure, what you're sayingwith the familiarity of of you
being friendly and putting thatenergy out there, I I think
there's a lot to that to make ita uh just a nicer experience for
for everybody.
Yeah, and and I think what isreally good about this, because
you might be saying to yourself,yeah, but when I go to the gym,
(25:10):
everyone's like a jerk to me.
Why should I be nice?
You know, like I don't want tobe the soft target, or you know
what I mean?
Like everybody just doesn'tinteract at my gym.
And and in that way, I wouldsay, well, you need to go to a
different gym.
But you doing a good thing givespermission to other people to do
a good thing.
Like I solidly believe that.
And even if you think no one'swatching, someone's fucking
(25:33):
watching.
Yeah.
So when you put the weightsback, that actually implants the
idea in someone's mind like Ishould put the weights back.
SPEAKER_00 (25:39):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (25:39):
When you're just like nice and friendly, that
that puts it out there thatthat's that's a way to be.
And so you can actually changethe culture of the gym you train
at, the jujitsu gym, anything,just by being that that good
example.
I believe that.
All right, y'all.
Stay good, be the change youwant to see in the world.
Shoo.
Brother, society is crumbling, and you want to know
what the number one indicator ofa crumbling society is.
Oh, do tell.
It's poor gym etiquette.
Oh, snap! The gym is at theforefront.
The gym is the canary in thecoal mine, if you will.
SPEAKER_00 (00:14):
Oh.
SPEAKER_02 (00:14):
Of uh of how a society is doing.
And when when uh decorum startsto fall apart at the gym, that
lets you know that that we're onthe slide here.
Oof, all right.
I had a I had a run-in with awith a bloke the other day.
You know what?
I thought it's important we havethis conversation because we're
pushing people to gyms.
Yeah, we encourage it.
We encourage it, right?
And uh and gyms are a greatplace.
(00:35):
Um can be.
Can be, can be, yeah, yeah.
You know, find everything, can'tyou?
Mixed results.
Um, but as you would experiencein day-to-day life, uh, I'm
sure, and I'm I'm hoping I'msure the listeners would would
vibe with this, people arelosing their ability to sort of
socialize with strangers.
SPEAKER_01 (00:54):
Yeah, the social interaction, as much as we love
technology, we have started tolose certain skills.
Yeah, for sure.
SPEAKER_02 (01:02):
Yeah.
And you look at you look at theyounger generations, they're
just not particularly good attalking.
I I mean, I I find it quiteinteresting to see, like, I I
love seeing the I love seeingthe younger generation at the
gym.
You particularly see big crewsof young, young boys.
Oh, yeah, or young men, which isgreat.
The odd thing though is thatthey're all wearing their
headphones, and you're like, whyare you guys wearing headphones?
Like, I thought you'd be talkingto each other.
(01:23):
Anyway, that's an aside.
What I wanted to get at here waspeople need to know if they're
gonna go to the gym, there's abit of etiquette to follow.
And if we're trying to helppeople to build their bodies for
jujitsu, but to also like begood contributing members of
society and that micro gymsociety, yes, there's a couple
of bits of etiquette you need tobe aware of.
SPEAKER_01 (01:44):
It's true, similar to a BJJ gym, you can add or
subtract from the culture,right?
And so you you may not know thatyou are necessarily being a good
contributing member, or maybeyou're being a jerk.
That's exactly right.
We've got to talk about it.
SPEAKER_02 (01:58):
Yeah, and sometimes you might just be contributing
to a uh uh like a bit of a jerkyculture without having that
intention, right?
Yeah.
So I'll tell you where thisexchange came from.
Oh, do tell.
So on the days when I work fromhome, I go to a globo gym near
my place.
Big fucking shiny joint.
It's like a health club.
It's like a it's like a it'slike a a working class health
(02:20):
club.
So it's not super expensive, butit has a sauna and a steam room
and a shitty pool.
And tennis courts.
The oldies love the tenniscourts.
Anyway, so I go to the gymthere, and you know, most of the
people in the gym there, I judgethe shit out of them.
Why not?
Naturally, right?
Don't don't we all?
Yeah, I'm just like, you don'tknow what you're doing.
You know, no, you don't know,you don't know.
But every now and again I'mlike, oh potential, oh,
(02:42):
someone's doing something here.
Oh, that's a nice back squat.
Yeah, oh shit, look at look atthat woman's chin up.
Wow, that was full range ofmotion.
So, you know, you sit thesethings stand out to you.
And there's a bloke, uh, um uhwhat would I say, like an like
an older fella, middle age, he'sprobably I mean, the funny thing
is he's probably only about ourage.
But he just looks old, livedharder.
(03:03):
Yeah, and I just think I'myounger.
I always think I'm younger thanI am.
You might even be younger thanJoey.
Yeah, that's right.
Continue.
But I I reckon he's probablyhe's probably in his early 50s,
um, which is not my age, to beclear, and uh, or JT's even.
And um he uh with the fuckingsame age.
Yeah, like Joey's just like, I'mclearly years younger than JT's
(03:23):
like what I would say.
What do you want me to tell you?
Please continue.
Um, but he's you know, so he'suh so he's not a gentleman, and
he he always comes in, and uh Inotice him because he's because
he's big, he looks like he'sbeen lifting weights in a garage
gym forever.
SPEAKER_00 (03:36):
Yep.
SPEAKER_02 (03:36):
And he's always on the squat racks.
Yeah, nice.
And he benches and he deads, umand he and he does some rowing
and he's he's usually doing goodstuff, and he takes his time and
you know he's he lifts heavyweight and he takes long rest
periods.
Yep now that instantly standsout in a globo gym.
Sure.
Because most people don't dothat, right?
Right.
They're not doing they're notdoing a lot of barbell stuff,
(03:57):
and if they do, they're notparticularly good at it.
You can see that they're notparticularly, they've never been
coached, and they're definitelynot pushing much weight or
taking long rest periods.
So he stands out to me, and I'vealways I've always been like,
ah, it's it's old mate.
Yeah, I like this guy.
But he's very um, he's very likeI'm you know, I try to make eyes
and give an acknowledgement.
He's never up for it.
I'm like, that's fine, whatever.
Anyways, um, I was he was therethe other day, and he was in the
(04:22):
squat rack next to me, and I wasdoing, I think I was doing some
weighted chins, and uh he wasthere with what appeared to be
his son.
Sure.
Right, and he him and he and hisson were benching together, and
I was like, Oh, that's fuckingcool, you know.
That's nice.
Son looks like he's probablyabout you know 15 or something
like that.
Yep.
And um I'm I'm building up mysets and I'm you know, my the
(04:44):
the squat rack that I'm in, it'syou know, it's like a like a
classic kind of, it's got likeweights stored on the side, and
then there's three squat racks,and they all have weights stored
on the side, and it's a fuckingmess, right?
Yep, no one's looking after it.
And um he comes over.
Maybe I maybe I'd startedbenching at this point, and he
(05:04):
comes over and um grabs weightsoff my squat rack, right?
Right?
And he'd done it, I think he'ddone it once before, and I was
like, I gotta mention to himthat that I that's not cool.
I'm using that.
Yeah, I'm gonna use that, right?
Yeah, and um he came over and heI'm just trying to recall here.
(05:26):
He grabbed he grabbed theweight, he took it back, and
then and I think he hadheadphones in or idea.
And anyway, I called him on hisnext rest period.
Yep, he came over to grabanother thing or something, and
I was like, hey man, I was like,um, you you look like you got
some like gym experience.
Like, where where have you doneyour training at?
Yeah, and uh I'm trying to givehim some props, you know, and
he's like, and he's like, ohhere, like I've always I've
(05:47):
always trained here, and I waslike, oh no shit.
And I was like, oh I've I'veseen you lift and like you've
got you know good technique, andso he's like, Oh yeah, thanks,
you know, try to try to do thething and you know, try to be
consistent, whatever.
And we had a little kind ofnothing exchange about you know
the gym and whatever.
SPEAKER_00 (06:00):
Sure.
SPEAKER_02 (06:02):
And I said, Um, hey man, I um uh, you know, just
from an etiquette point of view,like where I where I usually
train, um, I would always asksomeone if I was gonna take if I
was gonna take weights from thethe rack that they're using.
Yeah, yeah.
And he's like, oh yeah, he said,um, he said, oh yeah, he said,
yeah, for for us here, it's justkind of fair game.
(06:23):
It's a bit of a mess, so anyweights are fair game.
So he he blatantly like knockedback my attempt to block, yeah.
Block.
It was a it was he was justlike, yeah, no, that's not how I
fuck.
I don't care.
And I was like, oh fuck thiscunt.
So I'm like, where do I go withthis?
And I said, Well, you know what,man?
I said, I'll give you myassurance, I'll never come and
take any weights off your squatrack while you're using it.
(06:45):
I'll always ask.
And he said, and I'll never comeand interrupt you when you're in
the middle of a set.
Wee, what an edge.
And I was like, fuck, gotta,gotta pay props.
He, you know, whatever, hemanaged that well, and he kind
of he he was like, Yeah, no, I'mnot, I'm not playing that game.
But but you know, but he but hehe stayed in the pocket and we
(07:06):
had the exchange and it wasdone.
SPEAKER_00 (07:07):
Sure.
SPEAKER_02 (07:08):
You know, and uh and I you know I haven't seen him
since, but I'll say good day andwhatever.
SPEAKER_01 (07:12):
But it made me think uh fucking black mark against
that guy.
He's on the fucking if I seehim, if I go to the gym with
you, Joey, and I see him, I'lltake the weights off his fucking
barbell.
I'll take the weights off oneside of his fucking barbell for
the game.
And if he wants to have adisagreement about it, it's
gonna turn into BJJ WorldTelevision.
I fucking tell you, man, that isrude.
(07:34):
Fuck that guy.
SPEAKER_02 (07:35):
So, you know, so you know, whatever.
I thought he I thought hehandled himself well.
I gotta I gotta respect it.
And um, but I've hadconversations with a few young
blokes there, sure.
Where it's usually they're theygot their earphones on, they're
kind of not thinking, and theycome and grab weights.
Sure.
And I usually have to followthem back to their thing because
they're like running off withthe weights and they can't hear
you.
Yes.
So you've got to kind of get infront of their eyes, and then
they're like, oh hey man, you'relike, oh hey, brother, next time
(07:56):
you want the thing, just ask mebecause I might need to use
that.
And then and I found thatthey've always been receptive.
Oh, yeah, no worries, man.
You know, they're they're coolabout it.
But these these young blokes andsome old blokes, no one's ever
taught them, hey man, there's asystem here, you know, and this
system is we uh we kind of lookout for each other and we're
we're in this environmenttogether.
Sure.
And so I thought, well, maybe wecould just have a very general
(08:19):
discussion about what are whatare some of those points of
etiquette that are important tomaintain the kind of culture one
wants to train in, a productiveenvironment for all of the
people in there.
SPEAKER_01 (08:29):
I think something that I have learned relevant to
that, the first point, is adegree of acknowledgement.
I think that's important.
I don't, I don't, I don't, itdoesn't matter if it's BJJ or
uh, you know, lifting gym or inany social situation, even if
you don't really like the personor whatever, just as a as a
(08:50):
basic form of respect, justacknowledge someone.
Like that, I feel that'simportant.
And I mean you may haveexperienced this, Joe, with when
you're driving, you know, youcan wave.
You let someone in.
It's just a small thing.
We do it here in Australia, youknow, wherever you are in the
world, it's we do it in a veryminimal, you know, like you
don't even lift your hands, youdon't even necessarily wave, you
(09:11):
just give the little or a littlenod, or it's sometimes people
will lift their hand up, youknow.
You can flash your hazards.
Yeah, hey, you go, let you in,you know.
And what's so funny about theacknowledgement piece is you're
trying to, it's just a gestureof goodwill.
But me when I'm driving, and I'mgenerally caffeinated when I'm
driving because I'm going to thegym or I'm trying to get
something done.
(09:31):
I can go from polite, good, goodperson.
If I let you in and be like,yeah, you go, no
acknowledgement, I'm gonnafucking murder you.
Yeah, I go from polite tohomicidal maniac.
That's Liam Neeson.
So quick, bro.
Like I will wipe, I will KaiserSosa your entire bloodline.
SPEAKER_02 (09:48):
Your whole family is gone.
SPEAKER_01 (09:50):
And and I guess it's not quite like that in the gym,
but I, you know, I train at agym where there I am the lowest
rung, right?
There is some big dogs in there,and they're so friendly.
And they they will often say tome, I feel like I'm the white
belt, right?
But oh man, you're using that.
I'm like, nah, dude, like youtake whatever you want.
Like, I'm just trying to not getin the way here.
(10:11):
And so I think also learningthat from other like black belts
and world champions, likethere's a degree of it's not
even humility, it's just basiclevel respect to say, oh hey
man, like, are you using that orcan I put that?
You know, it's just very, verysimple.
And then so basic.
It is very basic, basichumanity, I would argue.
(10:31):
It is, and this is what you'resaying, Joe, the crumbling of
society, it's showing up in thegym.
SPEAKER_02 (10:36):
Well, and you know, like not even not even being
ironic or funny about it.
I I was reading a book um uhearlier this year.
It's a small thing on liketyranny, like the nine, twelve,
something, yeah, 12 kind ofsmall chapters on tyranny.
And one of the things is like,it's like 12 things you can do
to stop tyranny.
And one of the things is likemake eye contact with your
(10:57):
neighbors, say hello to people,like be part of the community.
Don't, don't shut yourself offfrom the people that are around
you.
Um, because that that is a layerthat once removed, it's easier
for then, whatever.
It's easy for tyrannical, yeah,right?
For seg yeah, for you to becomeisolated, for tyrannical
elements to take advantage ofthat, etc.
(11:18):
But so I'm you know, and I'm allabout that.
But it's like, yeah, it's likefucking make like if you make
make some eye contact, hey, hey,what's up, or eyebrows, or you
know, yeah.
Just but simple.
Whereas like it in that gym,people are so bad at it.
And it's not, it's not them.
Like, I'm sure they're great atit in other countries.
SPEAKER_01 (11:38):
That people are not giving a fuck about each other.
Do you think that's what it is?
SPEAKER_02 (11:42):
Yeah, I I do.
I think it's well, I think theculture is sort of dictated from
um from the top in a way.
And what I could say I observethere is that the sort of PTs
who work there, in a way, eventhough if you're not doing PT,
you don't have anything to dowith them, they are kind of the
leaders of that gym, right?
They they walk around, they gotthe uniform.
(12:03):
If you have a question, youmight ask them.
Sure.
Um, and they don't say hello.
SPEAKER_01 (12:08):
Right.
SPEAKER_02 (12:09):
They don't set any kind of tone of like, oh, we say
hi.
Oh, hey, what's up, man?
Good to see you.
You know, hey, dude.
Like, there's none of that.
And so, because they're all,they're all equally fearful,
like the regular citizens inthere, of fucking making eye
contact and saying hi to astranger, you know?
And then sometimes you you likeuh like I've broken ice with a
bunch of them, but still theyfreeze over again the next time.
(12:32):
You're like, man, we had afucking conversation last time.
Like we can say hi now.
SPEAKER_01 (12:35):
It's okay, you know?
SPEAKER_02 (12:36):
We're cool.
But I but I really do feel likethat's a thing because I I think
about like this gym or you likeJung Brothers, or you think
about any jujitsu academy that'spretty social.
You know, once it's clearlyestablished that oh, we say hi
to each other here because we'reall kind of friends, yeah, then
that's just what happens.
Yeah, it's friendly.
Yeah, it's it's not it doesn'ttake a lot to maintain that.
SPEAKER_01 (12:55):
No, it's it's lower, I think it's lower friction than
people think.
Um and and look, you know, it itmakes the overall experience
nicer, right?
Like I accidentally got into aconversation with a fella who
you know, and I you know, I tryto keep things pretty surface
level because I'm trying to getmy workout done, but I I do
believe, you know, you'd be benice to people in the gym.
(13:17):
And I didn't want a spot fromthis guy, um, but this guy he he
really wanted to give me a spot,and so I was like, Oh, well, I
don't want to be a he wanted tobecause you were busy.
He's like, Oh, you want a spot?
And I was like, Oh yeah, like goon, you know, and then he
proceeded to tell me his lifestory.
Like, I was like, This guy hascorked my work out.
(13:38):
We are 30 minutes later, andhe's like, Yeah, mate, and then
the crane collapsed, and thisguy died, and I was like, Whoa,
bro.
Like it's like that's not what Imeant, but you know, whatever.
Like, we are now familiar, but Ialso now know from that exchange
to just minimize the exchange,yeah.
(13:58):
And I think this is another goodthing of getting to know the
people around you, whether it'sin the gym, uh, you know, at
BJJ, in your um neck of thewoods, your neighborhood, you
also know, like, oh, stay awayfrom that guy.
Like, right?
You know, just be like, hey,yeah, I don't want to hear about
what happened at at your fuckingpsychologist meeting.
Yeah, you know what I mean?
(14:19):
Like you also get to that's aand I think that that's a social
nuance too, with the exchange.
If you never have the exchange,you also don't know who the
fucking psychos are.
SPEAKER_02 (14:29):
Yeah, you know what I mean?
No, like acknowledging someoneis also clocking them, yes,
isn't it?
Yeah, and I do, I really do feelfrom a, and this isn't in the
gym, this is on the streets, butfrom that personal security
standpoint, yeah, and I teachthis to my kids, is like when
you look someone in the eyes andyou and you say hi or you
acknowledge them, that also letsthem know that you're now
(14:50):
they're now on your radar.
Yes, and that puts you in asafer position versus you
pretending they're not there ifthat person were to be a
predator.
SPEAKER_00 (14:58):
Yes.
SPEAKER_02 (14:59):
I think that makes you like an easier target.
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Well, let me and I don't want tocorrupt this because this is
your your chat, Joe, butawareness.
Bruce Lee actually, in one ofhis books, talks about the first
step in self-defense isawareness.
And he would talk about how hewould walk into a room and just
critically analyze exits,threats, how thick is that guy's
(16:03):
neck?
Yeah, you know, like could Ifront kick that guy through the
window?
Like he was 24, like he wasobsessive.
Yeah, but he said that like thebiggest problem is like if you
sense a threat on your side ofthe road or there's shadow and
you can't see down the otherway, go to the other side of the
road where there's light and youcan see.
And he's saying that like thebiggest problem is most people
are not aware.
I actually think this is alsotrue in a gym because sometimes
(16:25):
people are not paying attentionto each other because they've
got their headphones on, and youcan't see that this guy's
walking that weight out, or youcan't see there's a woman doing
walking lunges there.
And this is this is like notthat this is creating massive
accidents, but it's kind ofprobably the lack of a weight.
It's dulling your senses, and itand it and it can create bad
vibes too, especially if someonemoves a bench and then like I I
(16:50):
witnessed this similarly.
Like I was when I was in theStates recently, I could only
train at like uh big crunch uhfitness gym, and it was absolute
a fight.
It wasn't even a question ofhaving a discussion.
Like I did, I did get into achat with a few folks, but I
literally it was like a comedy.
I saw a guy pick up somedumbbells, just put them down,
(17:10):
like trying to, you know, yougotta kind of claim your corner.
He put the dumbbells down, heturned around, and someone just
picked them up and walked offwith them.
He turned back around, he'slike, and he couldn't even pick
in the crowd who who took hisdumbbells right.
I was like, this is a fuckingcomedy, but also minor tragedy,
right?
SPEAKER_02 (17:25):
Yeah, I mean that's that's the whole part of it,
right?
Like, is that just like thatlack of it's our greatest
fucking privilege that we can beoblivious to our environment.
Yes, the fact that you can justso safe, yeah.
And any motherfucker that'straveled to Rio, no one's doing
that.
Or South America or no one'swalking around fucking Rio with
their headphones on, right?
(17:46):
No, no one's walking around justyapping on their phone like with
their fucking AirPods becausemotherfucker, some kid on a bike
will pull up and put a gun toyour head and take that shit.
Yeah.
And it's like it's like it'sgreat that we don't have to deal
with that, you know.
There's no kids on bikes here inSydney with the pistol, but it's
like there's still something,like it's not, it's not just
(18:07):
like the fact that you don'thave to do that doesn't make
life better.
It actually makes it worsebecause you do just isolate
yourself from the whole shit.
SPEAKER_01 (18:14):
Yeah, it's like having the lower stressor means
you lose the muscles of thosemuscles you need to work to
function in an interactivesociety.
SPEAKER_02 (18:24):
Yeah, spot on.
And we all know this, like likesay I have this at the gym
regularly at that gym, wherebyyou see someone that you don't
know, like you've seen aroundthere, but you've you've never
connected with them, and youmake an instant judgment of
them, right?
You see, you'd be like, Oh, thisguy looks like a fuckwit, or or
oh yeah, she looks she looksfriendly, or whatever.
She looks friendly.
(18:45):
And then and then vice versa.
They and then you connect atsome point, you have an
exchange, then you're like, oh,person's a legend.
Cool.
Like your your perception, andthen it totally changes.
And it's just like, I thinkthat's the importance of the
acknowledgement, right?
And just allowing yourself to beavailable to just meet a
stranger.
Yeah.
I I think the biggest all youfucking single cunts, Jesus
(19:07):
Christ.
The gym is a fucking great placeto meet someone if you're
looking for a romantic partner.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, I know so everyone'susing apps and shit.
It's like, motherfuckers,there's people out there on the
street that are like could bethe person that you would love
to spend the rest of your lifewith.
Why not just make yourselfavailable to it at the very
least?
SPEAKER_01 (19:24):
I think the challenge in the current gym
environment for you out there,if you've if you're not someone
who uses a gym regularly, ifthat's not your thing, but you
through any kind of advice ormotivation, you've gone, you
know what, I'm gonna join a gym,I'm gonna start training.
The game has changed a littlebit in terms of you know, people
(19:44):
filming themselves.
And you know, like, you know, asyou could have a gym crash, but
you're do I talk to them?
Like, don't want to harass them,you know, like there's there's
these these social dynamics, butI think what we want to get to
here, you know go borrow weightsoff their rack and say, Oh, I'm
so do you mind if I borrow this?
SPEAKER_02 (20:00):
Like it's a fucking end, dude.
SPEAKER_01 (20:02):
Oh, oh, for sure, for sure.
SPEAKER_02 (20:03):
Yeah, be polite.
Yeah, press this button on yourtreadmill real quick.
Do you mind?
SPEAKER_01 (20:07):
You need a bit of incline there?
No.
But I think that yeah, it it haschanged over time.
But what has, I guess, you know,what informs this chat for you,
Joe, being having been atrainer, spent so many years in
different gyms, being a gymowner, and the culture that you
guys have raised and built hereis a culture of community.
(20:28):
And I think that's what makes uhJungle Brothers and Jungle
Botany and the whole junglephilosophy strong, is it's about
people interacting with eachother.
And so through the training, youyou kind of force people to
interact, but then it it's nicethat very organically people go,
oh, let's go for coffee andlet's this and let's that.
And I think good gyms do dothat.
(20:49):
But let's maybe get to what isgoing to be a good short guide
for people who are not used tothis alien gym environment.
What are the what are the thingswe feel that um people should
just be aware of to be a goodgym participant?
SPEAKER_02 (21:04):
All right, well, like it's we kind of like just
rapid fire.
I think um acknowledge thosearound you and make yourself
available to connect withsomeone.
Yep.
All right, okay, what's goingon?
Handshake, form, whatever youlike.
Um be like be tidy and like putyour shit away.
SPEAKER_01 (21:20):
See, that's a super putting putting the weights away
is actually a lost art.
Now I'm a I'm a trainer, so Ihave always put the weights
back.
SPEAKER_00 (21:27):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (21:28):
And even though I don't feel like I should,
because I'm not being paid, I'mjust in some random gym.
I habitually do, I can't like ifthe rack is there and there's
like a bunch of 20s on thefloor, I'm like, fuck no.
Like I'm gonna I gotta put itthere.
Like it's just so it's soingrained in me.
SPEAKER_02 (21:46):
If we're if if we're working in the kitchen together
and we're trying to cook up astorm, you're making your and
I'm and it's like, well, theknives go there, the bowls are
there, we keep the the benchspaces clear.
Yeah, yeah.
There's a system, right, tobeing productive and making a
nice meal.
Same shit in the gym.
Yeah, you want to have goodworkout, shit need like if shit
is where it's meant to be, theneveryone's good and can get done
what they need to.
Flush the fucking toilet whenyou're finished.
SPEAKER_01 (22:08):
Jesus.
Oh yeah, there you go.
How fucking simple is it?
It's just that I I think this ishonestly a breakdown in the
communication because people arenot taught, you know, like it's
oh, it's a 24 gym, 24-hour gym,people come in at random times.
People are not taught to carefor the thing, therefore they
don't know what they don't know.
You know, and I'm not I'm nothating on someone who doesn't,
(22:31):
who's never been taught, but youknow, if we think about other
things in life, whether it's putyour shoes in the shoe rack or
whatever the fuck it is thatyou've learned in your life, the
gym is just another facet of oflife.
And if you give it care andrespect, it makes the place
better.
And so therefore, like bringthat.
(22:52):
Like, not it's not like ohyou've got to re reorganize the
whole gym, but yeah, you know,like you see some litter on the
ground, chuck it in the bin.
You know what I mean?
Like you didn't put it there,but it's better that you do the
good thing, right?
SPEAKER_02 (23:03):
Yep, and so I think treat it like it's your own
joint, yeah, exactly.
Or or maybe treat it like it'snicer than your joint because
some people are probably fuckingslobs, possibly, and so yeah,
put the weights back, what'snext?
Oh fucking, do I got any more?
You know, really, I I thinkthat's kind of it.
Like, is just be be like afunctioning contributor to this
micro environment.
(23:24):
Yeah, that's really what I thinkthat would change it a lot for
folks, yeah.
And it and it and it allows youalso to to cultivate your own
comfort there.
Because a lot of people go tothe gym being nervous and like,
and that's totally normal.
But so once you know a fewpeople, you can say some get
a's, you're like, oh fuck, I'mactually like it's cool here.
I got nothing to be scared of.
And I think that's a that's anice state to train in.
SPEAKER_01 (23:46):
Yeah, yeah.
And I I mean, for me, I alwaysthe thing that I have learned
from a young age, because I Iused to get I used to get
bullied when I was a little kid,so I had to like come up with
some survival methods, and I wasalways the least dangerous
person in the room, I was alwaysthe kind of uh patsy or the
punching bag.
But what I realized is if youmake friends with the craziest
(24:08):
person in the room, it makes yousafer.
So I would always identify whois the fucking maniac.
Because if at least if you're ongood terms with the maniac, they
may not attack you first.
I'm not saying you're completelysafe, but you know, there's an
element to that.
So I used to clock this socialdynamic.
I go into any room and be like,who's the most dangerous person
(24:28):
here?
Just be on their good side.
You know what I mean?
Like as and that that was asurvival mechanism from
childhood.
Whereas now I am usually themost dangerous person in the
room, but uh I try not to letthat creep into my thoughts too
much.
You know that meme where theguy's in the corner and the the
party's gone, they don't evenknow I'm a black belt in two
martial arts and I can deadliftover 200 kilos.
(24:48):
Uh, it's not, you know, it's notlike that.
But for sure, what you're sayingwith the familiarity of of you
being friendly and putting thatenergy out there, I I think
there's a lot to that to make ita uh just a nicer experience for
for everybody.
Yeah, and and I think what isreally good about this, because
you might be saying to yourself,yeah, but when I go to the gym,
(25:10):
everyone's like a jerk to me.
Why should I be nice?
You know, like I don't want tobe the soft target, or you know
what I mean?
Like everybody just doesn'tinteract at my gym.
And and in that way, I wouldsay, well, you need to go to a
different gym.
But you doing a good thing givespermission to other people to do
a good thing.
Like I solidly believe that.
And even if you think no one'swatching, someone's fucking
(25:33):
watching.
Yeah.
So when you put the weightsback, that actually implants the
idea in someone's mind like Ishould put the weights back.
SPEAKER_00 (25:39):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (25:39):
When you're just like nice and friendly, that
that puts it out there thatthat's that's a way to be.
And so you can actually changethe culture of the gym you train
at, the jujitsu gym, anything,just by being that that good
example.
I believe that.
All right, y'all.
Stay good, be the change youwant to see in the world.
Shoo.
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