July 8, 2025 • 17 mins
Do you want to be the best in the world? Maybe you want your game to emulate Gordan Ryan, or Jozef Chen, or any of these top tier performers... But are you willing to make the sacrifices these guys make day in and day out?
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
A good martial artist does not become tense, but
ready.
Essentially, at this point thefight is over.
So you pretty much flow withthe goal.
Who is worthy to be trustedwith the secret to limitless
power?
I'm ready.
You cannot cherry pick anotherperson's skills, slash life.
(00:37):
It's not as simple as like oh,I want to have Joseph Chen's
skills.
Well, you got to see what ittakes for him to be that good.
And it's really been brought tomy attention recently that we
often admire a particularquality of a jujitsu person but
we don't see all of thesuffering and all of the fuckery
(00:59):
that goes behind it.
And I want to get into thatright now because this is a
really important thing for us tounderstand.
So the example I have, whichdoesn't actually come from
jiu-jitsu, was the other night.
I walked into the gym and Iliterally witnessed the biggest
bench press I have ever seen inmy freaking life.
I think it was 340 kilos.
(01:21):
Whoa, how many reps.
Three, triple, triple bro.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Oh, it was reps Three .
Speaker 1 (01:25):
No, triple Triple bro .
Oh it was, I thought you weretalking single it was obscene.
Now, our man was wearing aslingshot, which is an elastic
thing, that Pussy, well, ithelps, right.
But bro, it's so wild that thisman was benching more than any
lift anyone, more than anyonewas squatting or deadlifting on
(01:46):
the day.
Yeah, like, obviously it wasn't.
It wasn't deadlift day, butthis, it's happening, right, and
what's so funny about this waspeople were not intimidated like
people know.
This guy's quite famous inaustralian powerlifting.
He's got a lot of records.
He's not a like really tall guybut he's like very built.
You know, he's a bit shorterthan me, probably 110 kilos.
(02:06):
Super jacked guy named luke,straight away big look not.
And I wouldn't.
I wouldn't call him big luke,but I wouldn't call him small
luke.
But he's got a bit ofcauliflower here.
And I went up.
I'm like, oh, hey, man, I knowhim from the internet.
We'd never met in person.
Really, I'd seen him compete ata powerlifting comp.
He's like, hey, man, yougrapple, you do wrestling or
jiu-jitsu.
I was like, yeah, and he's like, bro, you got the ears for it.
(02:27):
I'm like, oh, you got a littlebit of color.
He's like, yeah, I did a bit, Idid a bit bit of wrestling, I
did mma, you know and I was like.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
So we just became bros through jiu-jitsu, which
was immaculate because he was abit uh, he was on another level
and people weren't going to youbecause he's like a big dog only
.
Yeah, he was definitely funnyhow that happens in in us, in
settings, isn't it, where aperson is almost a bit
untouchable people, oh fuck, no,he's like he's a bit too elite,
(02:53):
yeah, and you can't just gotalk to him, even in a gym of
elite lifters and I mean peoplealso being respectful, right
like oh, I don't know, he's justyou could die like only only
the people might look at you andyou just drop down.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
No, no, I mean like he's what he's lifting could
kill him yeah, like the room forerror is so small so not anyone
could spot him, like dan thecoach, sean, who's also the
co-owner and coach of strengthworkshop, like only the elite
pros can go anywhere near him.
But once we started talkingjujitsu bro, like we were, we
were just just broing out.
Oh yeah, do you know?
(03:28):
I was in South Australia.
I trained with Declan, I knowDeclan, so we were talking about
that and it was cool, like wejust it.
But what was revealed to meabout this immense capacity of
this guy, the amount of injuriesand terrible shit he's gone
through, it's terrible.
So, even though anyone couldlook at that and go, I would
(03:48):
wish, I wish I could have thatsuper capacity let me tell you
guys, I've been there and it'sit's fucking not that special
you know what I?
Speaker 2 (03:56):
mean, it's like you get there and you're like now,
what?
Now what?
You know what?
380, you know where's thisgoing on?
Yeah, you know much better thananyway.
I'm happy for luke but what?
Speaker 1 (04:08):
what this really brought into sharp attention?
Because I I knew a little bitof him over the internet but the
the level of injury and painand suffering he's been through
to have that capacity isunmatched.
Like people just don'tunderstand how much he's
suffered to be who he is Right,and I think the problem is we
(04:31):
cherry pick in our minds Like,oh, if only I could.
You don't want his life, youdon't want everything he's been
through to be able to do that,you're not prepared to do it.
You will not do it in the sameway with jujitsu.
Like people really admireGordon Ryan.
You will not do it In the sameway with jujitsu.
Like people really admireGordon Ryan.
But the amount of mental stuffthat guy goes through and
(04:51):
physical stuff he's gone throughthat like the suffering and
nonsense he's been through as ahuman to be who he is you don't
want that.
Like it's.
You really cannot cherry pickone person's part of their life.
If you say I want that, thenyou've got to go, I have to take
it all, and I think most peopleare not prepared for that.
So, joe, you were saying thatthere's you.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
You're having a similar conversation yeah, we
had actually adam and I spokeabout it last night.
He was talking about um, he wastalking about jujitsu and you
know, elite athletes and like,yeah, people who admire aspects
of their game, and like, oh, Iwish I could fucking grapple as
good as that guy.
And he's like, yeah, but like,are you willing to like sleep on
(05:30):
people's couches and fuckingeat $2 noodles?
And you know, for like allthroughout your 20s and early
30s?
You know, because that's whatit takes often for a lot of
these guys to break through.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
You know, and fucking just training real hard and not
building other things likebusinesses or families and all
that sort of shit Life, and Ithink that on a conversational
level, we all get it.
It's like oh yeah, of course,but still we have that sort of
primal thing where we look atwhat someone else can do and
think, oh, I wish I could dothat.
(06:00):
The thing is, though, it never.
I mean, this is maybe aslightly separate point, but it
never feels as good to be thatperson as you think it does From
the outside, looking in.
Yeah, I remember reading a bookon sports, on like sport.
It was like sports, strengthand conditioning.
This is like in the nineties.
(06:21):
It was one of the first books Iever bought you as I was like
I'm gonna go to a bookshop andbuy a book and it was on like
sports, conditioning, and it wasaustralian book.
How intellectual of you, joe Iknow, I know it's actually a
pretty good book.
It's kind of written.
You know simple terms, so Icould.
I could get a lot from itaustralia sports science has got
, has had a very good standardfor a long time.
(06:42):
Right of like a quote sort ofstory Steve Monaghetti, the
famous marathon runner fromAustralia.
He was like a real icon here inthe nineties and shit.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
And I think over 10 Ks, like 10,000 meters.
He was like I don't know ifhe's world champ, but he's
definitely one of the best inthe world, yeah Right.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
But he was saying how people comment to him all the
time.
People are like, man, you mustjust wake up feeling so good,
healthy and vital and all ofthat.
And he's like, nah, I wake upsore and tired and I feel like
(07:20):
shit, and that's because I'm anathlete, and it's just like.
That's often the reality of theexperience for the person that
has that thing.
You want the suffering, andwhether it's that waking up
physically and sore and beat upor whatever no, no, no.
I had to sacrifice time with mykids for the last 15 years to
(07:40):
build, and that's actually theexample someone brought to the
conversation last night wastalking about Jack Ma of Alibaba
and someone asked him if you'regoing to do it all over again,
would you do it differently?
And he's like, yeah, I wouldn'tdo it Because I got two kids
who I don't know, a wife that Idon't see, and that's just the
reality of building a fuckingmulti-billion dollar business.
(08:00):
It's tragic, yeah, and I thinkthat I'll fucking throw it all
away for a billion dollars.
I'm just putting that out thereright now.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Keep the kids.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Please.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Kids wife complaining money, give me money.
No, look, it is tough, but,like for the best part, we don't
know what it costs anotherperson.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
No, and some people do it.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
It's all surface level Some people do it easier
than others and some people doit way harder.
Like you, don't see the painand this is something I'll
reference Seb Attard, Sebastian.
So doing some work with Seb andhelping him with his rehab the
thing that didn't occur to mewhen he broke his shin- his
(08:41):
ankle.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Seb Australian grappler was fucking getting
right up there training at NewWave.
New Wave on a Danahar, and hewas rolling with Oliver Tarza,
wasn't he in training?
Speaker 1 (08:51):
yeah, it was just he would try to resist a takedown
and it snapped off the end ofhis tib and fib His fucking leg
bone Clean, even though it waslike his foot dislocated.
He had to have plates andscrews put in his leg.
Now this is the thing I didn'treally realize.
It's his right foot.
He had to move home so he wasliving independently close to
(09:12):
the gym.
He had to cut his America tripshort.
He had to move back in with hisparents.
He couldn't drive right Becausehis right foot.
He can't put any weight into itanything, so he can't actually
go to a physical gym.
He's just got this janky homeset up which I kind of helped
him, you know, equip it betterand give him a program and stuff
(09:33):
His whole trajectory, which waslike one of the best in the
world.
He got silver at Worlds no GiWorlds.
At Brown Belt almost beat thenumber one guy in the world who
is Pavel, who is now in TeamEuropean Misfits for CJI.
Like no one has beaten Pavel in12 months, except Seb was like
(09:53):
that close, like decision level,right he can't even do anything
Like-, can't even createInstagram content.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Well, I mean, he can, but it's not jujitsu, yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Yeah, and so that's so tough that you put all your
time and energy into this bucketand it can be very simply
derailed.
And then where the fuck are you?
Because you're so invested, youknow like he'll come back.
He's young, he's going tobounce back, it's fine.
But as an, as an adult whetherit's a business, um, whether
(10:25):
it's a family, whether it'sanything that you are so it's
such a huge part of your life wedon't know how chaotic life is,
so that we don't really knowwhat that person is betting,
especially if, like we, we oftendon't talk about the health,
the downside of what committingyour body physically all the
(10:47):
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all the shit does because youdon't have any bandwidth for
anything else in your life.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
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Speaker 1 (11:52):
That can leave you, and we see it with fighters too.
Because their commitment is sototal, they lose their
relationships, they fall outwith managers, or they get
divorced, or they lose theirbusiness, and then, fucking,
what is their quality of life?
their sacrifice is so great yeahfor these shining moments, and
(12:14):
so the reason why I wanted totalk about this is don't get me
wrong I I'm not an enviousperson.
I do admire when someonecommits to something fully, but
I do have a little voice in theback of my head which is I
wonder how much that's?
What's that cost?
Yeah, you never know.
Some people do it easier thanothers, but some people do it
(12:35):
fucking tough.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
You know, I was actually.
I actually listened to a coupleof minutes of Modern Wisdom
podcast this morning.
Okay, Because I saw a clip thathe had Jocko Willink on yes sir
, and the clip that I saw wasJocko sharing his views on the
Secretary of Defence, PeteHegzeth.
And the clip that I saw wasJocko sharing his views on the
Secretary of Defence, PeteHegseth.
And I was like and I didn't getto watch the clip.
(12:57):
So I was like, oh, I want tohear what he has to say because
I'm, you know, You're interested.
Like all of us, I'm watchingthis reality show of American
politics, you know, 24-7.
Aren't we all yeah and so,anyway, I was like driving in
and I was like fuck, and I waslike, oh, go on, jocko, and I
chucked it on and it wasn't theconversation that I was looking
(13:17):
for, so I ended up fucking itoff.
But the thing that ChrisWilliamson asked him was about a
quote that Jocko has mentionedthat he really likes, which is
that there are no solutions,only compromises.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
And he was like what does that mean to you?
And Jocko's like well, it justmeans that, like, everything is
a compromise so you can fixsomething, but that's going to
require you affecting somethingelse, right.
And so it all comes down topriorities and prioritizing the
thing.
And so you know, know, that'sgoing to shift from time to time
(13:55):
.
So it might be the business, itmight be family, it might be
personal, your health, training,etc.
But you got to know that whenyou fix one thing you detract
from another.
And I was like interesting take, not sure, I totally agree that
it is a maximum.
So, you know, simplifies arelatively complex thing, but it
kind of speaks to that in a way, right?
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Where it's like we see the fruits of extreme
sacrifice.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Particularly with elite sports people.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
And you see the fruits and you're like look at
the physique, look at theperformance, look at the
winningness, look at the glory.
Fuck, yes, I want this.
I'm going to training tonight.
Let's do it, you know, but youdon't.
You just don't see all of thecompromises for sure.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Oh, it's funny you mentioned that because that I I
got a quote recently which I waslike that's so powerful, which
is like, oftentimes, when we say, oh, that thing made me feel a
way like an action, a person, athing outside of ourselves, we
are giving power to somethingwhich is not actually, it's
(14:59):
external, and that's actuallynot true, that actually you're
not a victim of circumstance,you're a victim of perspective,
because actually if you changethe way you look at it, it's not
a problem.
You know like it's Right, yeah,and that what you're seeing
isn't actually the case.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Look at it, it's not a problem.
You know, like it's Right, yeah, and that what you're seeing
isn't actually the case.
Yeah, yeah right.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
And so I think that a lot is that oftentimes, when we
look at others and we havejealousy or we want, or it
creates desire, it's also ourperspective is not taking in the
full view, yeah, and thatactually we fall victim to a
lack of perspective.
(15:36):
It's a lack of perspective thatwe're experiencing, that we
don't fully understand whatwe're looking at and what it
takes, and therefore, you know,whenever we were feeling a kind
of way where it's like, oh, Ican never be like that guy, it's
like I mean, maybe you could,but do you even want that?
Yeah, like that's.
Maybe you're not appreciatingwhat is really good in your own
(15:57):
life to be like, no, I'm good,my three days a week, whatever.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Well, while we're throwing down quotes on that
vein I think we're just quote-for quote I think Ido's quote of
.
Well, he referred to the theone arm handstand as the sausage
factory.
Oh, and it was like well,what's the thinking there?
And he said well, everyoneloves eating sausages until you
visit the factory and see howthey're made.
Oh right, it's like, yeah, youwant this elite body weight
(16:22):
strength skill.
You're not prepared to do thework.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
No, simply you know me, do it and be like, oh, I
wish I could do that.
Yeah, you know, yeah, no, youdon't, and I mean that's, that's
tough.
But I mean I think the the moreyeah, like you're saying, the
more, the more you can start tounderstand what what something
costs and what it takes it.
It does give you betterperspective and you can better
(16:46):
appreciate what you, what youhave.
Yep, there it is Philosophicalbreakdown, folks.
And look, if you made it thisfar, we would appreciate a like
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It means a lot to us to getmore good info like this out to
good people like you.
A good martial artist does not become tense, but
ready.
Essentially, at this point thefight is over.
So you pretty much flow withthe goal.
Who is worthy to be trustedwith the secret to limitless
power?
I'm ready.
You cannot cherry pick anotherperson's skills, slash life.
(00:37):
It's not as simple as like oh,I want to have Joseph Chen's
skills.
Well, you got to see what ittakes for him to be that good.
And it's really been brought tomy attention recently that we
often admire a particularquality of a jujitsu person but
we don't see all of thesuffering and all of the fuckery
(00:59):
that goes behind it.
And I want to get into thatright now because this is a
really important thing for us tounderstand.
So the example I have, whichdoesn't actually come from
jiu-jitsu, was the other night.
I walked into the gym and Iliterally witnessed the biggest
bench press I have ever seen inmy freaking life.
I think it was 340 kilos.
(01:21):
Whoa, how many reps.
Three, triple, triple bro.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Oh, it was reps Three .
Speaker 1 (01:25):
No, triple Triple bro .
Oh it was, I thought you weretalking single it was obscene.
Now, our man was wearing aslingshot, which is an elastic
thing, that Pussy, well, ithelps, right.
But bro, it's so wild that thisman was benching more than any
lift anyone, more than anyonewas squatting or deadlifting on
(01:46):
the day.
Yeah, like, obviously it wasn't.
It wasn't deadlift day, butthis, it's happening, right, and
what's so funny about this waspeople were not intimidated like
people know.
This guy's quite famous inaustralian powerlifting.
He's got a lot of records.
He's not a like really tall guybut he's like very built.
You know, he's a bit shorterthan me, probably 110 kilos.
(02:06):
Super jacked guy named luke,straight away big look not.
And I wouldn't.
I wouldn't call him big luke,but I wouldn't call him small
luke.
But he's got a bit ofcauliflower here.
And I went up.
I'm like, oh, hey, man, I knowhim from the internet.
We'd never met in person.
Really, I'd seen him compete ata powerlifting comp.
He's like, hey, man, yougrapple, you do wrestling or
jiu-jitsu.
I was like, yeah, and he's like, bro, you got the ears for it.
(02:27):
I'm like, oh, you got a littlebit of color.
He's like, yeah, I did a bit, Idid a bit bit of wrestling, I
did mma, you know and I was like.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
So we just became bros through jiu-jitsu, which
was immaculate because he was abit uh, he was on another level
and people weren't going to youbecause he's like a big dog only
.
Yeah, he was definitely funnyhow that happens in in us, in
settings, isn't it, where aperson is almost a bit
untouchable people, oh fuck, no,he's like he's a bit too elite,
(02:53):
yeah, and you can't just gotalk to him, even in a gym of
elite lifters and I mean peoplealso being respectful, right
like oh, I don't know, he's justyou could die like only only
the people might look at you andyou just drop down.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
No, no, I mean like he's what he's lifting could
kill him yeah, like the room forerror is so small so not anyone
could spot him, like dan thecoach, sean, who's also the
co-owner and coach of strengthworkshop, like only the elite
pros can go anywhere near him.
But once we started talkingjujitsu bro, like we were, we
were just just broing out.
Oh yeah, do you know?
(03:28):
I was in South Australia.
I trained with Declan, I knowDeclan, so we were talking about
that and it was cool, like wejust it.
But what was revealed to meabout this immense capacity of
this guy, the amount of injuriesand terrible shit he's gone
through, it's terrible.
So, even though anyone couldlook at that and go, I would
(03:48):
wish, I wish I could have thatsuper capacity let me tell you
guys, I've been there and it'sit's fucking not that special
you know what I?
Speaker 2 (03:56):
mean, it's like you get there and you're like now,
what?
Now what?
You know what?
380, you know where's thisgoing on?
Yeah, you know much better thananyway.
I'm happy for luke but what?
Speaker 1 (04:08):
what this really brought into sharp attention?
Because I I knew a little bitof him over the internet but the
the level of injury and painand suffering he's been through
to have that capacity isunmatched.
Like people just don'tunderstand how much he's
suffered to be who he is Right,and I think the problem is we
(04:31):
cherry pick in our minds Like,oh, if only I could.
You don't want his life, youdon't want everything he's been
through to be able to do that,you're not prepared to do it.
You will not do it in the sameway with jujitsu.
Like people really admireGordon Ryan.
You will not do it In the sameway with jujitsu.
Like people really admireGordon Ryan.
But the amount of mental stuffthat guy goes through and
(04:51):
physical stuff he's gone throughthat like the suffering and
nonsense he's been through as ahuman to be who he is you don't
want that.
Like it's.
You really cannot cherry pickone person's part of their life.
If you say I want that, thenyou've got to go, I have to take
it all, and I think most peopleare not prepared for that.
So, joe, you were saying thatthere's you.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
You're having a similar conversation yeah, we
had actually adam and I spokeabout it last night.
He was talking about um, he wastalking about jujitsu and you
know, elite athletes and like,yeah, people who admire aspects
of their game, and like, oh, Iwish I could fucking grapple as
good as that guy.
And he's like, yeah, but like,are you willing to like sleep on
(05:30):
people's couches and fuckingeat $2 noodles?
And you know, for like allthroughout your 20s and early
30s?
You know, because that's whatit takes often for a lot of
these guys to break through.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
You know, and fucking just training real hard and not
building other things likebusinesses or families and all
that sort of shit Life, and Ithink that on a conversational
level, we all get it.
It's like oh yeah, of course,but still we have that sort of
primal thing where we look atwhat someone else can do and
think, oh, I wish I could dothat.
(06:00):
The thing is, though, it never.
I mean, this is maybe aslightly separate point, but it
never feels as good to be thatperson as you think it does From
the outside, looking in.
Yeah, I remember reading a bookon sports, on like sport.
It was like sports, strengthand conditioning.
This is like in the nineties.
(06:21):
It was one of the first books Iever bought you as I was like
I'm gonna go to a bookshop andbuy a book and it was on like
sports, conditioning, and it wasaustralian book.
How intellectual of you, joe Iknow, I know it's actually a
pretty good book.
It's kind of written.
You know simple terms, so Icould.
I could get a lot from itaustralia sports science has got
, has had a very good standardfor a long time.
(06:42):
Right of like a quote sort ofstory Steve Monaghetti, the
famous marathon runner fromAustralia.
He was like a real icon here inthe nineties and shit.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
And I think over 10 Ks, like 10,000 meters.
He was like I don't know ifhe's world champ, but he's
definitely one of the best inthe world, yeah Right.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
But he was saying how people comment to him all the
time.
People are like, man, you mustjust wake up feeling so good,
healthy and vital and all ofthat.
And he's like, nah, I wake upsore and tired and I feel like
(07:20):
shit, and that's because I'm anathlete, and it's just like.
That's often the reality of theexperience for the person that
has that thing.
You want the suffering, andwhether it's that waking up
physically and sore and beat upor whatever no, no, no.
I had to sacrifice time with mykids for the last 15 years to
(07:40):
build, and that's actually theexample someone brought to the
conversation last night wastalking about Jack Ma of Alibaba
and someone asked him if you'regoing to do it all over again,
would you do it differently?
And he's like, yeah, I wouldn'tdo it Because I got two kids
who I don't know, a wife that Idon't see, and that's just the
reality of building a fuckingmulti-billion dollar business.
(08:00):
It's tragic, yeah, and I thinkthat I'll fucking throw it all
away for a billion dollars.
I'm just putting that out thereright now.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Keep the kids.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Please.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Kids wife complaining money, give me money.
No, look, it is tough, but,like for the best part, we don't
know what it costs anotherperson.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
No, and some people do it.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
It's all surface level Some people do it easier
than others and some people doit way harder.
Like you, don't see the painand this is something I'll
reference Seb Attard, Sebastian.
So doing some work with Seb andhelping him with his rehab the
thing that didn't occur to mewhen he broke his shin- his
(08:41):
ankle.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Seb Australian grappler was fucking getting
right up there training at NewWave.
New Wave on a Danahar, and hewas rolling with Oliver Tarza,
wasn't he in training?
Speaker 1 (08:51):
yeah, it was just he would try to resist a takedown
and it snapped off the end ofhis tib and fib His fucking leg
bone Clean, even though it waslike his foot dislocated.
He had to have plates andscrews put in his leg.
Now this is the thing I didn'treally realize.
It's his right foot.
He had to move home so he wasliving independently close to
(09:12):
the gym.
He had to cut his America tripshort.
He had to move back in with hisparents.
He couldn't drive right Becausehis right foot.
He can't put any weight into itanything, so he can't actually
go to a physical gym.
He's just got this janky homeset up which I kind of helped
him, you know, equip it betterand give him a program and stuff
(09:33):
His whole trajectory, which waslike one of the best in the
world.
He got silver at Worlds no GiWorlds.
At Brown Belt almost beat thenumber one guy in the world who
is Pavel, who is now in TeamEuropean Misfits for CJI.
Like no one has beaten Pavel in12 months, except Seb was like
(09:53):
that close, like decision level,right he can't even do anything
Like-, can't even createInstagram content.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Well, I mean, he can, but it's not jujitsu, yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Yeah, and so that's so tough that you put all your
time and energy into this bucketand it can be very simply
derailed.
And then where the fuck are you?
Because you're so invested, youknow like he'll come back.
He's young, he's going tobounce back, it's fine.
But as an, as an adult whetherit's a business, um, whether
(10:25):
it's a family, whether it'sanything that you are so it's
such a huge part of your life wedon't know how chaotic life is,
so that we don't really knowwhat that person is betting,
especially if, like we, we oftendon't talk about the health,
the downside of what committingyour body physically all the
(10:47):
time, flat out, blasting gear,training five times a day, doing
all the shit does because youdon't have any bandwidth for
anything else in your life.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Yeah, and then hey, if you're sick of getting
crushed by larger, strongeropponents on the mat and you
feel like you've got goodtechniques but you just can't
make them work because lessskilled individuals with more
strength than you are shuttingyou down, you're going to love
champion strength.
It is the program that we usedfor Adele Fornerino, the most
(11:16):
winningest, lightest weightfemale grappler of all time, to
prepare for her double gold runat last year's ADCC and beyond.
You can get your hands on thatexact program now.
That's going to make you strong, it's going to make you
relentless, it's going to makeyou harder to injure and it's
going to give you greaterconfidence on the mats.
You can get the program rightnow.
Go to bulletproofforbjjcom,check out the shop and you will
(11:39):
find champion strength rightthere.
And the best part is we giveyou a 100% money back guarantee
if you don't love it, forwhatever reason, and once you're
into it, jt and I will be thereto coach you personally.
See you on the program.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
That can leave you, and we see it with fighters too.
Because their commitment is sototal, they lose their
relationships, they fall outwith managers, or they get
divorced, or they lose theirbusiness, and then, fucking,
what is their quality of life?
their sacrifice is so great yeahfor these shining moments, and
(12:14):
so the reason why I wanted totalk about this is don't get me
wrong I I'm not an enviousperson.
I do admire when someonecommits to something fully, but
I do have a little voice in theback of my head which is I
wonder how much that's?
What's that cost?
Yeah, you never know.
Some people do it easier thanothers, but some people do it
(12:35):
fucking tough.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
You know, I was actually.
I actually listened to a coupleof minutes of Modern Wisdom
podcast this morning.
Okay, Because I saw a clip thathe had Jocko Willink on yes sir
, and the clip that I saw wasJocko sharing his views on the
Secretary of Defence, PeteHegzeth.
And the clip that I saw wasJocko sharing his views on the
Secretary of Defence, PeteHegseth.
And I was like and I didn't getto watch the clip.
(12:57):
So I was like, oh, I want tohear what he has to say because
I'm, you know, You're interested.
Like all of us, I'm watchingthis reality show of American
politics, you know, 24-7.
Aren't we all yeah and so,anyway, I was like driving in
and I was like fuck, and I waslike, oh, go on, jocko, and I
chucked it on and it wasn't theconversation that I was looking
(13:17):
for, so I ended up fucking itoff.
But the thing that ChrisWilliamson asked him was about a
quote that Jocko has mentionedthat he really likes, which is
that there are no solutions,only compromises.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
And he was like what does that mean to you?
And Jocko's like well, it justmeans that, like, everything is
a compromise so you can fixsomething, but that's going to
require you affecting somethingelse, right.
And so it all comes down topriorities and prioritizing the
thing.
And so you know, know, that'sgoing to shift from time to time
(13:55):
.
So it might be the business, itmight be family, it might be
personal, your health, training,etc.
But you got to know that whenyou fix one thing you detract
from another.
And I was like interesting take, not sure, I totally agree that
it is a maximum.
So, you know, simplifies arelatively complex thing, but it
kind of speaks to that in a way, right?
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Where it's like we see the fruits of extreme
sacrifice.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Particularly with elite sports people.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
And you see the fruits and you're like look at
the physique, look at theperformance, look at the
winningness, look at the glory.
Fuck, yes, I want this.
I'm going to training tonight.
Let's do it, you know, but youdon't.
You just don't see all of thecompromises for sure.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Oh, it's funny you mentioned that because that I I
got a quote recently which I waslike that's so powerful, which
is like, oftentimes, when we say, oh, that thing made me feel a
way like an action, a person, athing outside of ourselves, we
are giving power to somethingwhich is not actually, it's
(14:59):
external, and that's actuallynot true, that actually you're
not a victim of circumstance,you're a victim of perspective,
because actually if you changethe way you look at it, it's not
a problem.
You know like it's Right, yeah,and that what you're seeing
isn't actually the case.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Look at it, it's not a problem.
You know, like it's Right, yeah, and that what you're seeing
isn't actually the case.
Yeah, yeah right.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
And so I think that a lot is that oftentimes, when we
look at others and we havejealousy or we want, or it
creates desire, it's also ourperspective is not taking in the
full view, yeah, and thatactually we fall victim to a
lack of perspective.
(15:36):
It's a lack of perspective thatwe're experiencing, that we
don't fully understand whatwe're looking at and what it
takes, and therefore, you know,whenever we were feeling a kind
of way where it's like, oh, Ican never be like that guy, it's
like I mean, maybe you could,but do you even want that?
Yeah, like that's.
Maybe you're not appreciatingwhat is really good in your own
(15:57):
life to be like, no, I'm good,my three days a week, whatever.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Well, while we're throwing down quotes on that
vein I think we're just quote-for quote I think Ido's quote of
.
Well, he referred to the theone arm handstand as the sausage
factory.
Oh, and it was like well,what's the thinking there?
And he said well, everyoneloves eating sausages until you
visit the factory and see howthey're made.
Oh right, it's like, yeah, youwant this elite body weight
(16:22):
strength skill.
You're not prepared to do thework.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
No, simply you know me, do it and be like, oh, I
wish I could do that.
Yeah, you know, yeah, no, youdon't, and I mean that's, that's
tough.
But I mean I think the the moreyeah, like you're saying, the
more, the more you can start tounderstand what what something
costs and what it takes it.
It does give you betterperspective and you can better
(16:46):
appreciate what you, what youhave.
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