Will Sabrina Carpenter take Taylor Swift's Crown??
On this episode of the Bung Pod, we’re thrilled to have Brady Douglas from Beer League Golf joining us to spill the secrets of his newfound fame. From tasting a 2001 Shingleback Shiraz to the elegance of Grand Cru Bordeaux from the '90s, we explore the lush world of aged wines and barrel bungs. Plus, we chat about the rise of canned wines for those laid-back gatherings and celebrate the unique flavors of Australian wines alongside Washington and Oregon varietals.
Remember when "Wonderwall" was the unofficial anthem of every party, and that one guy couldn’t resist strumming it on his guitar? We sure do. Grab some nostalgia as we share our personal stories—like how country tunes from Jason Isbell and Tyler Childers set the romantic scene for a serenade. We also reminisce about our screamo band days, influenced by Underoath and other heavy-hitters, and even uncover a local chef’s surprising ties to the Washington wine scene, blending our love for food and music.
The ultimate musical debate takes center stage as we passionately argue over who reigns supreme, Drake or Taylor Swift. From Drake’s quest to outshine Michael Jackson to Taylor's jaw-dropping ability to sell out stadiums, we dive deep into their iconic careers. We share our concert experiences on Sunset Boulevard, rubbing elbows with Trippie Redd and exploring legendary recording studios. Whether you’re Team Drake or Team Taylor, this episode promises a spirited discussion and a trip down memory lane you won't want to miss!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Bung pod.
Welcome back Wine Wonderboy.
And we got Jazzy J Jazzy.
What is a bung?
The hole of the barrel iscalled a bung hole.
Inside the bung hole is calleda bung Wine with mayhem.
That's what it's about.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
I wouldn't say obviously, well, I mean, I have
them here and there with people,but that's not what you get in
wine memberships.
That's not what you get.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Exactly, yeah, yeah, it's true.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
There's not a lot of 2001s at the Safeway.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Yeah, and I'd be suspicious of all those wines.
There's not a lot of them, man.
Welcome back jabronis bungpajabronis.
Thank you so much forsupporting our podcast.
We love you.
We got Brady Douglas in thebuilding representing Beard
League and he's also a winelover as well.
(00:50):
If you didn't watch the lastepisode, go watch that on
Spotify or YouTube, apple Music,wherever you get it, you guys
know the drill, let's go.
Yeah, we were just talkingabout beer league um and yeah,
we got questions for you on thisone, yeah, you got some
questions.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
You know we're both in the uh the.
We're both recently buddinginstagram social media stars now
so yeah you know, getting ourthousands of followers doing
this, and we were kind of offair for a second talking about
getting free stuff and like howyou build this social media
business.
Yeah, so you've acquired ahandful of free things.
(01:31):
Yes, what was your approachdoing this?
Have people reached out to youdirectly?
Are you reaching out to people?
Speaker 1 (01:37):
um, I have not been reaching out to anybody.
Uh, everything that we've gothas been given to us because
they want us to have it.
Uh, which is super interesting.
I never thought that would be athing for us, um, but I guess
that's happening, which is kindof cool, like the shingle back
Shiraz, a little, uh, bts foryou guys.
(02:00):
For the jabronis Um, I wasgiven two cases of some older
wines and those will be showingtheir faces on the podcast every
now and then.
Um, this is a mclarenvilleshiraz, 2001.
Also, I was given some grandcrew right bank, um, 1997 and
1994 bordos, which is very fun.
(02:22):
Yeah, um, yeah, so those willbe making an appearance on the
podcast at some point.
Um, yeah, I'm very excited totry those and see how they're
doing.
Uh, yeah, it's kind of cool.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
This is kind of cool to get to do this and, uh, I
mean, a shingle box is good, itis.
It's different.
I mean I don't.
I've never had a 2001 Shiraz.
I've never had very few.
Shiraz I've never had very fewShiraz in my life.
Probably not huge in WashingtonRight.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
I mean there.
I mean there's a lot ofShiraz's that are um, that are
volume, more volume wines thatyou can find you know, yeah, but
the local wineries, like Chelan, doesn't do much of them, do
they no?
Yeah, I mean, you can find someShiraz, probably in Safeway.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
But yeah, no, yeah, I mean you can find some Shiraz
probably in Safeway, but yeah,well, yeah, I mean, I see, I
mean Safeway is my go-to forlike some Cab Sauv and some Sauv
Blanc.
Yeah, if I'm like, when I'mthinking of other wines, it's
what we have in Washington orOregon on the west coast kind of
thing that's yeah, oh that, soyou'll go more local.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
You do that that, yeah, I mean, yeah, Aussie stuff
is really good, honestly, Likeit's very underrated, I think
for the most part.
But yeah, I was given two casesof some old wines.
There's some really oldWashington wines there too that
we have.
So we have some 2001,.
Maybe some 1990-ish stuffthat's also from the Columbia
(03:48):
Valley.
That's really interesting.
That will make an appearance onthe pod at some point.
But yeah, I've been also.
I was just shipped two cases,well, two packs, I would say Two
packs Shakur of these.
So there's this company inCalifornia called Los Cuernos.
(04:10):
They are a canned wine companyand they sent us two packs and
also a couple other cans.
Do you know how much canned?
Speaker 2 (04:18):
wine I drink.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
So you drink a lot of canned wines.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
A whole.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
You should have brought one of them over here I
thought about it, I thoughtabout it.
Well, that's a weird fact youwouldn't be like brady douglas
of beerly golf pounds cannedwines they're that's like one of
my favorite things no, I thinkcanned wines are dope, like I
think it's so cool to see wineand different um and different
bottlings or different you knowum vessels, if you will, that
(04:44):
are more accessible and easierto open, you know and you think
of like when, like the, can youknow if you're going to a
barbecue, you're going to like abeach party, that kind of thing
?
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Yeah, it's always just cans of beer you pour into
a soul cup.
If you're the one bringing outa bottle of wine, it just looks
a little more suspicious too.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Yeah, and so I'm definitely the one doing that.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Well, obviously I mean, but I'm like I understand
the market for this of like,canned, canned cocktails, canned
wine, and you can just grab afew at the store and it just all
looks the same.
Yeah and the like.
Nobody cares.
Yeah, You're not.
You know you don't want to bethe pretentious at the bonfire
and bringing out your acousticguitar to like, sing some Oasis.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
I mean, that's probably what I would do Songs
of Oasis.
Cause they are the bane of myexistence.
Uh, sorry for everyone thatloves Oasis.
They're very popular but I hatethem.
When I bring up my, my guitarit's more kind of like you know
country, some like folk, likeolder folk of.
Like you know country, somelike folk like older folk, stuff
(05:45):
, you know.
See, I respect that.
I got like luminaire so I'llplay that.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
That's fair I just grew up in the era of the guys
gonna play wonder samewonderwall.
Yeah, you know what.
That is like nails onchalkboard for me.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
I was like someone's playing fucking wonderwall.
That's my merlot for sidewaysgoing back to the song that's
like I'm as anyone's playingfucking.
If anyone's playing fuckingwonderwall, I'm leaving.
I'm not gonna stay for it.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Hey, I think that's fair.
I mean, I think, for like our,our generation, that's like an
entire personality of a guy thatexisted was his campfire.
Yeah, yeah, bring out theacoustic guitar on it not
invited to play, but he'd belike, hey, I got my guitar with
me and it's wonderful it waswonderful, of course.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
I did uh serenade my, my girlfriend, the first time
that we were like really hangingout you know, yeah, the guitar
and with wonderwall, no,absolutely fucking not.
No, it was like country stuffthat she loves, okay, you know,
and stuff that I like too.
It was something like morganwallen, it was, uh, jason isbell
, uh, some zach bryan tyler,childers kind of stuff yeah, so
(06:50):
you can actually play the guitarI, I will.
I will not say that I actuallycan play the guitar like that,
but I know a few chords enoughto know those songs yeah, okay,
I guess maybe that's, I meanthat sounds more impressive, I
know, like the regular chords.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
You know those ones.
So the only time in high schoolI took guitar class for two
years, yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
And I serenaded one girl one time, and it was with
Kiss Me by Sixpence and theRicher.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Which is truly dating myself as a human being.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Kiss me that song, yeah Exactly, which is truly
dating myself as a human being.
Kiss me that song, yeah Exactly.
You remember the lyrics asprecisely as I do.
Could do it then, couldn't doit now.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Also, I think it's three chords that you know and
you could do this.
Yeah, I probably could,Actually, let's go get the
guitar, let's go yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
I'm just breaking it out right now It'd be sick.
Oh my God, out right now, it'dbe sick.
Oh my god, that's so funny.
Like yeah, I don't know guitarthat much.
My dad, he plays all aroundchalan, like different wineries
and like places.
Like he plays at tipsy canyonall the time he plays at alta
and um, twisted cork and whatnot, and like he's a.
(08:00):
He's a musician.
Like he's been in bands andstuff.
Like I was in a screamo bandand in high school and I was
playing the bass because thatwas my instrument at the time
and I was singing because myvoice is really my.
I could sing decently well.
Um, so I was like the cleanvocals.
I wasn't screaming but I waslike the you know the nice.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
What degree of screamo like on man from screamo
emo.
Obviously the less screamowould be like dashboard
confessional Sure, going likethe used taking back Sunday.
Like, where would you placeyourself between those three?
Speaker 1 (08:35):
more screamo than any of those Probably more screamo
than taking back Sunday.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Cause we had a guy.
I guess I did that wrong.
It would be dashboard takingback Sunday.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
The used Right, yeah, yeah.
So it would be like I don'tknow, we were kind of going for
like an under oath vibe.
Okay, I would say under oath orlike those emo.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
You know, like there was a lot of screaming Like
you're so screamo that you'regetting off my charts of
mainstream screamo.
Exactly, okay, perfect.
My charts of mainstream screamout.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Exactly, okay, perfect, yeah, yeah, so I'll be
the clean vocals.
We call it clean vocals becauseI'm not screaming, because I
didn't know how to do it.
But we had a guy his whole jobwas to be the screamer and that
was Spencer, who was the leadscreamer, singer, whatever of
Under Oath, and then theirdrummer, aaron Gillespie.
He would also sing, so he wouldplay the drums and sing at the
(09:26):
same time.
But he was like angel voice,this guy.
Okay, it was amazing, his voiceis so good.
And then he later went on to dohis own band called the almost,
and they were less, lessscreamy, okay, than under oath,
for sure, but yeah I, I do.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
I would love to see a documentary on where the
screamers from scream scream ofhands up bands now, wow, do you
know?
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Under oath is still going strong, Like they have
such a big.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
I know still exists, but like not the same drummer
anymore I don't think, but yeahall the other ones funny.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Well, okay, cause it's Patreon, I'll say this Um,
because you guys, I give youguys inside scoops on things for
a reason, cause you pay forthis and I love you.
So the chef at Sorrel, where,um, I am entangled with, like, I
love them, they're amazing.
(10:20):
He's really.
Uh, the chef is really involvedwith the Washington wine
commission, knows a lot ofwinemakers.
He does taste Washington, doesall the big stuff Like.
He has a big name around thestate, uh, for, for culinary and
also for wine because of hiswine adjacent Ness, if you will.
Um, he his first career.
He was at a decently successful, uh, scrimmo band.
(10:42):
He was the drummer wait, sohe's.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
So he's got to be like in his 30s, early 40s, like
he's in his early 40s.
Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, he'slike 43 or something, yeah, yeah
.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
So they were like doing all these contests they
were shipped off, uh, to us armybases around the world to play
um.
They were like I think it waslike an mtv contest to like was
the us military, like the numberone subscriber, to scream out
like the us military like thathe loved doing, like so many
(11:19):
artists would love doing usmilitary stuff, because they
would play for your pay, foryour plane ticket.
You know, quote unquote becausethey're using their own planes
to take you there, so they'renot really paying anything.
They're paying gas at thatpoint.
Well, we're paying gas.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
We're paying gas.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Yeah, we're paying gas.
And then they'd get you like.
The accommodations were great,they'd feed you the whole time
that you're there.
You'd play a dope-ass rock show.
Everyone would love you becausethey haven't seen a soul in a
long time.
And so any music, any liveentertainment, soldiers are
stoked you know anyone thatworks for the military on those
bases.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
They're stoked to see anyone isn't that the basis of
captain america?
Yeah, probably doesn't.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
He start as he's performing at performing.
Yeah, yeah, there you go.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
I think of the three marvel movies I've seen.
That's like what I remember.
So the chef at sorrel, chefaaron he could have been he
could have been captain americalost your chance, aaron jeez,
come on, man uh, you know, youknow, but then chris evans
needed to do something for workyeah, he did.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
You know, yeah, um, but yeah so that those were his
favorite events to play.
It was us military stuff,because they'd pay for like
everything and they'd pay you xamount and so they'd take care
of everything and you're likesick like no other venue does
this ever, so it's like it'sdope yeah so he was.
(12:42):
He was a drummer in a screamoband that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Yeah screamo, emo kind of band yeah along the
lines of taking back sunday thatwhich yeah, I mean taking back
sunday shaped my youth to anextent.
You know they were.
They were in the top probablyfive bands, so obviously blink
182 was up there.
We had bad music taste as kids.
You know that's how it works.
Blink is dope.
Their new album, though I havenot.
(13:06):
I feel like I got convinced inmy early 20 that if you liked
Blink-182, you had bad musictaste.
Oh, that's a bummer.
I'm not.
Do I have to get back into it?
You got to get back into it.
Is it still the same band orlike?
it's still the same band, if yougo see the Beach Boys, and
they're it's a different guysplaying the same songs.
(13:33):
My glove's still there.
Um, yeah, I know I, they're notthat old.
Yeah, they're not that old,yeah yeah, they're in their 40s.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Uh, blink-182 is probably in their early 40s by
now.
Yeah, like they're stillplaying together okay of them.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Yeah, tom and travis, they just came out with a new
album, like year.
I am blown away by this.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
I don't know Is there new, is there first album and I
don't know, 10 years orsomething like that.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Somehow this wasn't advertised to me on Taylor Swift
radio.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Oh, why not?
That's the same demographic?
Speaker 2 (14:03):
You would think so.
All these tweens?
Yeah, I learned of them when Iwas a tween.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
These new tweens need to be in there although I think
all the new tweens are now intosabrina carpenter more than
taylor swift now it's kind ofmore of our, our wives age like
early 30s, late 20s yeah, yeah,who is sabrina carpenter?
You don't know sabrinacarpenter?
No, she's.
She's the new Taylor Swift.
I swear to God, seriously, yeah, she has a song Espresso.
I can't play it right nowbecause of copyright issues, but
(14:36):
it's dope, it's pretty.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
actually it's nice.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
You're like okay, I would actually for me.
I'm not the biggest TaylorSwift person, but her earlier
stuff is great.
I like her earlier recordings.
But when I but like her earlierstuff is great, I like her
earlier recordings but like whenI listen to some kind of
carpenter.
You're like okay, this is kindof like up the same alley as
Taylor Swift now, which is likepoppy, okay, the song espresso
is.
She's just way more catchy.
(14:59):
There's a lot more fun thingsand not as annoying of of a
voice in my opinion.
Sorry, everyone, I've heardTaylor Swift.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
This is why I was going on Patreon, so that he
doesn't lose all his followers.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Yeah, If I was really into it.
I would just like really go inon that Taylor Swift thing.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
When you get big enough, we can do an episode on
that, which I think means youneed to be more famous than
Taylor Swift.
That's never going to happen.
A couple years.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Yeah, whatever.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
I don't see why not.
Yeah, um so Sabrina Carpenter,I, my guess would be so, as
somebody who, when theirBluetooth doesn't connect,
actually listens to FM radio inthe car.
Okay, I probably have heard hersongs numerous times, probably.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
And I just just, you probably have to have no idea
who's.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Yeah, like olivia rodrigo.
Yeah, know that name.
They're in the same age range Ithink yeah, so it's like all.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
I probably would think that's her and it's just
uh yeah, I don't remember thelyrics to espresso, I just, you
know know, like two words, butthat's the best thing about fm
radio is you don't remember thelyrics to anything, you just
know that like there's a vibe ofwhat they're playing to you the
whole time exactly yeah no,it's a dope song.
Um, she's the new t swizzy.
(16:14):
She's coming for the throne.
All right, bookmark this for 15years from now, 15 years from
now, sabrina carpenter is goingto take over the throne.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Probably five, probably five years you think
someone will dethrone tay Swiftin the next five years?
No, probably not.
I think the problem is her fanbase is still all in their 30s
10 years.
Maybe I give her 10.
Yeah, the Taylor Swift thinghas wowed me because I have been
a Taylor Swift fan since I was15.
(16:45):
The first album, the TaylorSwift album?
Yeah, I love that album.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
I was a huge Tim McGraw fan.
What?
Speaker 2 (16:50):
was her banger off that album, tim McGraw.
There you go.
Yeah, exactly.
So that's how I found out aboutit.
I fell off of this like fandomthing because everybody, like
every girl now, claims at 35years old, they've been a fan of
Taylor Swift since they werefive.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
And, like none, of this makes any sense you guys
are completely.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
I respect it.
If I could ever garner thistype of fan for myself, I would
totally do this.
I love it.
It's a cult.
Love them, oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Love cults.
They're great.
If you're a leader, it's great.
It sucks for everyone else.
But if you're the top dog, whynot?
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (17:37):
And I mean now.
It's like everybody in their30s has some money to go see
these concerts.
It's like she does not exist totweens fans, except for the
ones that their moms are able topay for these tickets.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Yeah, so there's going to be a huge gap at some
point.
So the moms which are not yetwell, they're not our age,
they're how old?
Are you?
35, 35?
So I mean the moms that arebuying a t swizzy.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
They're my age, they are your age yeah, you think so,
and they have middle schooldaughters.
Really, they're the moms that Iknow that had kids they're only
two years, they're like 23,like 20, 20 to 23, have
daughters in middle school andnow it's like the thing they do
together Interesting.
Yeah, that's crazy.
So by the time, jet, our eightmonth old daughter is in middle
(18:18):
school.
Yeah, I don't think TaylorSwift's going to be something
we're doing with her Probablynot.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Yeah, it'll probably be Sabrina Carpenter.
God damn, it had to come backto Sabrina Carpenter.
Here we go.
She'll be around full circle,right there, circle does it
again, brings it all the wayback home, here we go.
Yeah, there it is.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Uh, drake will probably still be a thing, you
know, but just uh man, this isactually a heated argument
between, like my guy friends andthe girls.
We all love drake but alsotaylor.
Swift has buried drake as faras who's the biggest artist
alive.
I drake, admits, but there's nocompetition at all, it's not?
Speaker 1 (18:59):
anything.
I mean there is a competition.
He's the biggest rapper alivethey do, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
So he shouts her out and he's like tagging her in his
post to try to get paid.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
I mean the thing with drake.
He's just trying to be alive,like and not in a physical body,
but, yes, in physical body, butalso like and just in the
public's eye, like he is tryingto outdo michael jackson, yeah
he is he was.
He is honestly our era'sMichael Jackson.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
That's true.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
There's nobody bigger than Drake.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Besides, Taylor Swift yeah, and I agree with that and
I would argue Beyonce, becauseI personally have an affection.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
I personally Beyonce over Taylor Swift, in my opinion
, but also was raised on blackmusic, so I just like Beyonce
more.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Well, I mean, mean that's hard because I don't
think there's any actual likethere's.
No, there's not any.
There are any facts you couldpoint to here that I would
support that I know it's allemotional.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
It's all emotional at this point.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
It's all emotional I feel like that's how guys are
about drake.
Yeah, no, he's not selling outshows, but like it's more
emotional drake is selling outshows, though well, yeah, but
just not on the level that, likeI mean, taylor swift is just so
much bigger than anything Ithink we've ever seen drake sold
out.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Climate pledge yeah.
Taylor.
Swift sold out lumen field,where the seahawks play multiple
nights, multiple nights.
There's a big difference there.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
I agree.
Also, taylor Swift is stillputting out albums that have
numerous hit songs, and Drake,we're like man, but that Take
Care album was good.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Take Care album was fire, though Honestly, my
favorite album of Drake wasNothing.
Was was the same.
I think that's a good argument.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Yeah, that's my favorite one.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
But I think the hip-hop aficionados would say
take care take.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
I mean marvin's room though just like.
It's just a vibe in the agethat it came out like when that
we were like and I know there'sa studio he recorded in which
was marvin's room in hollywood.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Yeah, on sunset I was two blocks away from marvin's
room when I was in audiorecording um school.
You could hear him sobbingwhile he I could hear drake, two
blocks away, sobbing on sunsetfor Marvin's room.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Damn.
Actually.
What are your favorite sunsetof live music spots?
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Sorry, sunset Boulevard sunset sunset
Boulevard live music spots, Imean there were.
I didn't really go to a lot oflive music stuff, um, mostly
because I was just grinding inthe studio yeah all the time.
So I didn't have time, but Idid see trippy red.
Like trippy red's a rapper, uh,and he was just coming out at
the time.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
He was a soundcloud rapper yeah, trippy red is
fairly like I.
I don't know, I mean he's wellknown now, but like most people
wouldn't know who he is.
I feel like, of our audience,at least I mean we've already
bonded over mac miller in thepast and mac me yeah your.
Your audience is not going toknow rip I'm trying to get a
tattoo of mac miller.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
honestly, um, yeah, like trippy red, I saw him, um,
in hollywood.
It was dude, I don't rememberthe name of the joint, it was
some random theater, yeah.
But we did a lot of our school,the audio engineering school,
did a lot of live audiorecording events there, just to
(22:44):
for our students, for the peoplethat are recording it, to learn
, you know.
So we did a lot of events there.
Trippie wasn't a part of ithe's too big of a name even at
that point for that but we had,like, some random bands around
Hollywood that would do stuffwith us.
So, it's, it was fun.
I mean, the Trippie red thingwas, yeah, it was down a couple
(23:04):
of blocks, it was, I mean,everything in sunset's down a
couple blocks, honestly.
But, um, the the spot where Iwas recording at.
So you go down the, go down thestreet, there's chick-fil-a on
the corner, fire, um, and thenyou go down a little bit further
there's a studio I'm not gonnaname who they are, uh, because
they don't sponsor the podcastum, but um, that's where
(23:27):
marvin's room is and, yeah, liketwo blocks away, my studio was
where eminem did his first ep orlp, his first lp there, and
then also tupac recorded therewith the marsh mallers lp.
Yeah, yeah, the marsh mallerslp was recorded there.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Banger Tupac Um.
Was that the last good albumrecovered?
Recorded their last good albumProbably.
You can't say the name of it,so we will never know.
Um well, the studio, the studionow is owned by the recording
school but they took over thatownership.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Okay, before it was owned by Interscope, um, or also
death Row Records, stuff likethat, because Pac recorded Me
Against the World there a lot ofhis earlier albums at that spot
.
But yeah, now it's owned by therecording studio.
That's also Los AngelesRecording School and Los Angeles
(24:25):
Film School as well.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
So they're big, yeah, recording school and los
angeles film school as well.
So they're big, yeah, sam and Ilast summer did the most basic
bitch tour of sunset.
Yeah, possibly tell me, tell meso we're down there and we're
visiting my little brother wholives in silver lake.
You know which is like trendycoming up.
So sam likes reality tv.
She watched, uh, vanderpumprules, yeah.
(24:49):
So of course, what's there?
Speaker 1 (24:51):
they're at my winery really.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Yeah, vanderpump yeah , the winery, I was working at
the time.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Yeah, they're, they came.
Okay, they did a filmed episodethere.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Oh yeah, it's fun okay, I think I've actually
heard of that happening.
Yeah, because sam was tellingabout their wines.
Because, like I know justenough more about wine that sam
tries to impress me with realityTV show wine facts from time to
time.
Yeah, it's not that fun, but sowe start.
We start the night at.
What is it?
Uh, sir, is that the first one?
The van the Vanderpump'srestaurant down in West
(25:22):
Hollywood?
No idea, yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Whatever, yeah, yeah, whatever, let's call it, sir, I
might, I might, totally soundslike this thing.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Okay, just fucking sucks.
This is the worst restaurant.
Like I mean it's fine, butyou're, people are only there
because of the tv show.
Now, I'm sure it was good 10years ago, sure?
And now it's like, oh, you'rejust getting there to get the
fried goat cheese balls and it'ssuper expensive.
The fried goat cheese balls Imade better ones for for the
(25:49):
Vanderpump Rules reunion episodethan we got at the actual
restaurant.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Oh, wow, yeah they weren't.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
That good is what I'm getting at.
And then we go up and we didthe like Whiskey, a Go-Go Viper
Room.
There's another one across fromthat, not a new one, an old one
across.
I can't remember what the nameof third one was, because at
this point we're so drunk thatI'm like yelling at my little
brother on the sidewalk in frontof the live music place, but it
(26:17):
was super fun.
I mean, these are all like sooutdated at this point.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Whiskey gogo is legendary, though it is, yeah,
the doors, jim morrison, they're.
They were discovered there onelike Viper Room, is legendary
for specific reasons.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
You know it's referenced in like Molly's Game.
It's referenced in, basicallyyou know, some great people
dying there, that kind of thing.
But it was really fun to do.
And you know it's not like soldout as touristy, they're still
like owned and run as live musicshows.
Oh cool.
And the up and coming artiststhere are super small, nobody.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Did you go to the original Whiskey Go Go or the
new one, the original, theoriginal, nice yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
And so there's.
I mean there's some cool stuffgoing on, but it's like will I
remember anybody's name that Isaw those nights?
No, yeah, and there's 20 peoplethere.
I which makes me think, like,are people who are saying like,
oh, we saw this band 25 yearsago, whiskey ago, go?
Do they actually remember it?
(27:21):
Or did you just go see somelive band and then you like put?
Speaker 1 (27:25):
the dates together later and you're like, yeah, I
was there yeah yeah, totally,because you're not gonna know at
that moment you're not gonnaremember like oh, that was that
band, that was amazing, blew mybrain away.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Yeah, I mean, how amazing would you have to be in
front of 50 people?
Yeah, because, like the wholevibe isn't going to be there,
you'd have to blow everybody'sminds away for me to remember
the name of that band yeahhowever many years well, the
thing is with the music industry, it doesn't really matter the
audience.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
You have it just meant.
It just matters who is in theaudience.
Right, so it's like you canplay a whiskey, go 50 people.
But if a and R is there fromlike Interscope or Capitol
records and they hear your shitand they think you're amazing.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Well then, when some dude 20 years later from Rolling
Stone writes an article abouthow I saw this band that night
yeah, and this band's huge atthat point, yeah and you're like
, wait, was that the night I wasthere?
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Yeah, and then you look at your calendar and you're
like that was the night I wasthere.
I did see them.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Yeah, exactly Not, because you remember them and
thought this is going to be thebiggest band in the world.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
This is going to be the next Taylor Swift the next
Taylor Swift.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
But we have audio that Ian claims he knows who the
next Taylor Swift is.
It's.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Sabrina Carpenter.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Sabrina Carpenter.
She is thousand percent.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Sabrina Carpenter is the next T Swizzy, that's an
espresso.
Vina Nespresso, vina Nespresso,all right.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Well, the next time you bring me on here, I'm
bringing the guitar Do it.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
We're going to see what you can do.
Let's do it.
Thanks for coming on brother,hey man.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
I've been waiting months for the invite.
I appreciate it a lot.
Of course I'm happy.
I rose to a high enough levelthat you brought me on.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
So thank you I got you.
Thank you, jabronis.
Go look at the Beer League.
It's all in the show notes.
Go check them out.
We love you.
Cheers, cheers, cheers, cheersyou.
Bung pod.
Welcome back Wine Wonderboy.
And we got Jazzy J Jazzy.
What is a bung?
The hole of the barrel iscalled a bung hole.
Inside the bung hole is calleda bung Wine with mayhem.
That's what it's about.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
I wouldn't say obviously, well, I mean, I have
them here and there with people,but that's not what you get in
wine memberships.
That's not what you get.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Exactly, yeah, yeah, it's true.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
There's not a lot of 2001s at the Safeway.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Yeah, and I'd be suspicious of all those wines.
There's not a lot of them, man.
Welcome back jabronis bungpajabronis.
Thank you so much forsupporting our podcast.
We love you.
We got Brady Douglas in thebuilding representing Beard
League and he's also a winelover as well.
(00:50):
If you didn't watch the lastepisode, go watch that on
Spotify or YouTube, apple Music,wherever you get it, you guys
know the drill, let's go.
Yeah, we were just talkingabout beer league um and yeah,
we got questions for you on thisone, yeah, you got some
questions.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
You know we're both in the uh the.
We're both recently buddinginstagram social media stars now
so yeah you know, getting ourthousands of followers doing
this, and we were kind of offair for a second talking about
getting free stuff and like howyou build this social media
business.
Yeah, so you've acquired ahandful of free things.
(01:31):
Yes, what was your approachdoing this?
Have people reached out to youdirectly?
Are you reaching out to people?
Speaker 1 (01:37):
um, I have not been reaching out to anybody.
Uh, everything that we've gothas been given to us because
they want us to have it.
Uh, which is super interesting.
I never thought that would be athing for us, um, but I guess
that's happening, which is kindof cool, like the shingle back
Shiraz, a little, uh, bts foryou guys.
(02:00):
For the jabronis Um, I wasgiven two cases of some older
wines and those will be showingtheir faces on the podcast every
now and then.
Um, this is a mclarenvilleshiraz, 2001.
Also, I was given some grandcrew right bank, um, 1997 and
1994 bordos, which is very fun.
(02:22):
Yeah, um, yeah, so those willbe making an appearance on the
podcast at some point.
Um, yeah, I'm very excited totry those and see how they're
doing.
Uh, yeah, it's kind of cool.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
This is kind of cool to get to do this and, uh, I
mean, a shingle box is good, itis.
It's different.
I mean I don't.
I've never had a 2001 Shiraz.
I've never had very few.
Shiraz I've never had very fewShiraz in my life.
Probably not huge in WashingtonRight.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
I mean there.
I mean there's a lot ofShiraz's that are um, that are
volume, more volume wines thatyou can find you know, yeah, but
the local wineries, like Chelan, doesn't do much of them, do
they no?
Yeah, I mean, you can find someShiraz, probably in Safeway.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
But yeah, no, yeah, I mean you can find some Shiraz
probably in Safeway, but yeah,well, yeah, I mean, I see, I
mean Safeway is my go-to forlike some Cab Sauv and some Sauv
Blanc.
Yeah, if I'm like, when I'mthinking of other wines, it's
what we have in Washington orOregon on the west coast kind of
thing that's yeah, oh that, soyou'll go more local.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
You do that that, yeah, I mean, yeah, Aussie stuff
is really good, honestly, Likeit's very underrated, I think
for the most part.
But yeah, I was given two casesof some old wines.
There's some really oldWashington wines there too that
we have.
So we have some 2001,.
Maybe some 1990-ish stuffthat's also from the Columbia
(03:48):
Valley.
That's really interesting.
That will make an appearance onthe pod at some point.
But yeah, I've been also.
I was just shipped two cases,well, two packs, I would say Two
packs Shakur of these.
So there's this company inCalifornia called Los Cuernos.
(04:10):
They are a canned wine companyand they sent us two packs and
also a couple other cans.
Do you know how much canned?
Speaker 2 (04:18):
wine I drink.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
So you drink a lot of canned wines.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
A whole.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
You should have brought one of them over here I
thought about it, I thoughtabout it.
Well, that's a weird fact youwouldn't be like brady douglas
of beerly golf pounds cannedwines they're that's like one of
my favorite things no, I thinkcanned wines are dope, like I
think it's so cool to see wineand different um and different
bottlings or different you knowum vessels, if you will, that
(04:44):
are more accessible and easierto open, you know and you think
of like when, like the, can youknow if you're going to a
barbecue, you're going to like abeach party, that kind of thing
?
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Yeah, it's always just cans of beer you pour into
a soul cup.
If you're the one bringing outa bottle of wine, it just looks
a little more suspicious too.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Yeah, and so I'm definitely the one doing that.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Well, obviously I mean, but I'm like I understand
the market for this of like,canned, canned cocktails, canned
wine, and you can just grab afew at the store and it just all
looks the same.
Yeah and the like.
Nobody cares.
Yeah, You're not.
You know you don't want to bethe pretentious at the bonfire
and bringing out your acousticguitar to like, sing some Oasis.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
I mean, that's probably what I would do Songs
of Oasis.
Cause they are the bane of myexistence.
Uh, sorry for everyone thatloves Oasis.
They're very popular but I hatethem.
When I bring up my, my guitarit's more kind of like you know
country, some like folk, likeolder folk of.
Like you know country, somelike folk like older folk, stuff
(05:45):
, you know.
See, I respect that.
I got like luminaire so I'llplay that.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
That's fair I just grew up in the era of the guys
gonna play wonder samewonderwall.
Yeah, you know what.
That is like nails onchalkboard for me.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
I was like someone's playing fucking wonderwall.
That's my merlot for sidewaysgoing back to the song that's
like I'm as anyone's playingfucking.
If anyone's playing fuckingwonderwall, I'm leaving.
I'm not gonna stay for it.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Hey, I think that's fair.
I mean, I think, for like our,our generation, that's like an
entire personality of a guy thatexisted was his campfire.
Yeah, yeah, bring out theacoustic guitar on it not
invited to play, but he'd belike, hey, I got my guitar with
me and it's wonderful it waswonderful, of course.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
I did uh serenade my, my girlfriend, the first time
that we were like really hangingout you know, yeah, the guitar
and with wonderwall, no,absolutely fucking not.
No, it was like country stuffthat she loves, okay, you know,
and stuff that I like too.
It was something like morganwallen, it was, uh, jason isbell
, uh, some zach bryan tyler,childers kind of stuff yeah, so
(06:50):
you can actually play the guitarI, I will.
I will not say that I actuallycan play the guitar like that,
but I know a few chords enoughto know those songs yeah, okay,
I guess maybe that's, I meanthat sounds more impressive, I
know, like the regular chords.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
You know those ones.
So the only time in high schoolI took guitar class for two
years, yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
And I serenaded one girl one time, and it was with
Kiss Me by Sixpence and theRicher.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Which is truly dating myself as a human being.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Kiss me that song, yeah Exactly, which is truly
dating myself as a human being.
Kiss me that song, yeah Exactly.
You remember the lyrics asprecisely as I do.
Could do it then, couldn't doit now.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Also, I think it's three chords that you know and
you could do this.
Yeah, I probably could,Actually, let's go get the
guitar, let's go yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
I'm just breaking it out right now It'd be sick.
Oh my God, out right now, it'dbe sick.
Oh my god, that's so funny.
Like yeah, I don't know guitarthat much.
My dad, he plays all aroundchalan, like different wineries
and like places.
Like he plays at tipsy canyonall the time he plays at alta
and um, twisted cork and whatnot, and like he's a.
(08:00):
He's a musician.
Like he's been in bands andstuff.
Like I was in a screamo bandand in high school and I was
playing the bass because thatwas my instrument at the time
and I was singing because myvoice is really my.
I could sing decently well.
Um, so I was like the cleanvocals.
I wasn't screaming but I waslike the you know the nice.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
What degree of screamo like on man from screamo
emo.
Obviously the less screamowould be like dashboard
confessional Sure, going likethe used taking back Sunday.
Like, where would you placeyourself between those three?
Speaker 1 (08:35):
more screamo than any of those Probably more screamo
than taking back Sunday.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Cause we had a guy.
I guess I did that wrong.
It would be dashboard takingback Sunday.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
The used Right, yeah, yeah.
So it would be like I don'tknow, we were kind of going for
like an under oath vibe.
Okay, I would say under oath orlike those emo.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
You know, like there was a lot of screaming Like
you're so screamo that you'regetting off my charts of
mainstream screamo.
Exactly, okay, perfect.
My charts of mainstream screamout.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Exactly, okay, perfect, yeah, yeah, so I'll be
the clean vocals.
We call it clean vocals becauseI'm not screaming, because I
didn't know how to do it.
But we had a guy his whole jobwas to be the screamer and that
was Spencer, who was the leadscreamer, singer, whatever of
Under Oath, and then theirdrummer, aaron Gillespie.
He would also sing, so he wouldplay the drums and sing at the
(09:26):
same time.
But he was like angel voice,this guy.
Okay, it was amazing, his voiceis so good.
And then he later went on to dohis own band called the almost,
and they were less, lessscreamy, okay, than under oath,
for sure, but yeah I, I do.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
I would love to see a documentary on where the
screamers from scream scream ofhands up bands now, wow, do you
know?
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Under oath is still going strong, Like they have
such a big.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
I know still exists, but like not the same drummer
anymore I don't think, but yeahall the other ones funny.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Well, okay, cause it's Patreon, I'll say this Um,
because you guys, I give youguys inside scoops on things for
a reason, cause you pay forthis and I love you.
So the chef at Sorrel, where,um, I am entangled with, like, I
love them, they're amazing.
(10:20):
He's really.
Uh, the chef is really involvedwith the Washington wine
commission, knows a lot ofwinemakers.
He does taste Washington, doesall the big stuff Like.
He has a big name around thestate, uh, for, for culinary and
also for wine because of hiswine adjacent Ness, if you will.
Um, he his first career.
He was at a decently successful, uh, scrimmo band.
(10:42):
He was the drummer wait, sohe's.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
So he's got to be like in his 30s, early 40s, like
he's in his early 40s.
Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, he'slike 43 or something, yeah, yeah
.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
So they were like doing all these contests they
were shipped off, uh, to us armybases around the world to play
um.
They were like I think it waslike an mtv contest to like was
the us military, like the numberone subscriber, to scream out
like the us military like thathe loved doing, like so many
(11:19):
artists would love doing usmilitary stuff, because they
would play for your pay, foryour plane ticket.
You know, quote unquote becausethey're using their own planes
to take you there, so they'renot really paying anything.
They're paying gas at thatpoint.
Well, we're paying gas.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
We're paying gas.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Yeah, we're paying gas.
And then they'd get you like.
The accommodations were great,they'd feed you the whole time
that you're there.
You'd play a dope-ass rock show.
Everyone would love you becausethey haven't seen a soul in a
long time.
And so any music, any liveentertainment, soldiers are
stoked you know anyone thatworks for the military on those
bases.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
They're stoked to see anyone isn't that the basis of
captain america?
Yeah, probably doesn't.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
He start as he's performing at performing.
Yeah, yeah, there you go.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
I think of the three marvel movies I've seen.
That's like what I remember.
So the chef at sorrel, chefaaron he could have been he
could have been captain americalost your chance, aaron jeez,
come on, man uh, you know, youknow, but then chris evans
needed to do something for workyeah, he did.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
You know, yeah, um, but yeah so that those were his
favorite events to play.
It was us military stuff,because they'd pay for like
everything and they'd pay you xamount and so they'd take care
of everything and you're likesick like no other venue does
this ever, so it's like it'sdope yeah so he was.
(12:42):
He was a drummer in a screamoband that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Yeah screamo, emo kind of band yeah along the
lines of taking back sunday thatwhich yeah, I mean taking back
sunday shaped my youth to anextent.
You know they were.
They were in the top probablyfive bands, so obviously blink
182 was up there.
We had bad music taste as kids.
You know that's how it works.
Blink is dope.
Their new album, though I havenot.
(13:06):
I feel like I got convinced inmy early 20 that if you liked
Blink-182, you had bad musictaste.
Oh, that's a bummer.
I'm not.
Do I have to get back into it?
You got to get back into it.
Is it still the same band orlike?
it's still the same band, if yougo see the Beach Boys, and
they're it's a different guysplaying the same songs.
(13:33):
My glove's still there.
Um, yeah, I know I, they're notthat old.
Yeah, they're not that old,yeah yeah, they're in their 40s.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Uh, blink-182 is probably in their early 40s by
now.
Yeah, like they're stillplaying together okay of them.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Yeah, tom and travis, they just came out with a new
album, like year.
I am blown away by this.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
I don't know Is there new, is there first album and I
don't know, 10 years orsomething like that.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Somehow this wasn't advertised to me on Taylor Swift
radio.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Oh, why not?
That's the same demographic?
Speaker 2 (14:03):
You would think so.
All these tweens?
Yeah, I learned of them when Iwas a tween.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
These new tweens need to be in there although I think
all the new tweens are now intosabrina carpenter more than
taylor swift now it's kind ofmore of our, our wives age like
early 30s, late 20s yeah, yeah,who is sabrina carpenter?
You don't know sabrinacarpenter?
No, she's.
She's the new Taylor Swift.
I swear to God, seriously, yeah, she has a song Espresso.
I can't play it right nowbecause of copyright issues, but
(14:36):
it's dope, it's pretty.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
actually it's nice.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
You're like okay, I would actually for me.
I'm not the biggest TaylorSwift person, but her earlier
stuff is great.
I like her earlier recordings.
But when I but like her earlierstuff is great, I like her
earlier recordings but like whenI listen to some kind of
carpenter.
You're like okay, this is kindof like up the same alley as
Taylor Swift now, which is likepoppy, okay, the song espresso
is.
She's just way more catchy.
(14:59):
There's a lot more fun thingsand not as annoying of of a
voice in my opinion.
Sorry, everyone, I've heardTaylor Swift.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
This is why I was going on Patreon, so that he
doesn't lose all his followers.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Yeah, If I was really into it.
I would just like really go inon that Taylor Swift thing.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
When you get big enough, we can do an episode on
that, which I think means youneed to be more famous than
Taylor Swift.
That's never going to happen.
A couple years.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Yeah, whatever.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
I don't see why not.
Yeah, um so Sabrina Carpenter,I, my guess would be so, as
somebody who, when theirBluetooth doesn't connect,
actually listens to FM radio inthe car.
Okay, I probably have heard hersongs numerous times, probably.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
And I just just, you probably have to have no idea
who's.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Yeah, like olivia rodrigo.
Yeah, know that name.
They're in the same age range Ithink yeah, so it's like all.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
I probably would think that's her and it's just
uh yeah, I don't remember thelyrics to espresso, I just, you
know know, like two words, butthat's the best thing about fm
radio is you don't remember thelyrics to anything, you just
know that like there's a vibe ofwhat they're playing to you the
whole time exactly yeah no,it's a dope song.
Um, she's the new t swizzy.
(16:14):
She's coming for the throne.
All right, bookmark this for 15years from now, 15 years from
now, sabrina carpenter is goingto take over the throne.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Probably five, probably five years you think
someone will dethrone tay Swiftin the next five years?
No, probably not.
I think the problem is her fanbase is still all in their 30s
10 years.
Maybe I give her 10.
Yeah, the Taylor Swift thinghas wowed me because I have been
a Taylor Swift fan since I was15.
(16:45):
The first album, the TaylorSwift album?
Yeah, I love that album.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
I was a huge Tim McGraw fan.
What?
Speaker 2 (16:50):
was her banger off that album, tim McGraw.
There you go.
Yeah, exactly.
So that's how I found out aboutit.
I fell off of this like fandomthing because everybody, like
every girl now, claims at 35years old, they've been a fan of
Taylor Swift since they werefive.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
And, like none, of this makes any sense you guys
are completely.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
I respect it.
If I could ever garner thistype of fan for myself, I would
totally do this.
I love it.
It's a cult.
Love them, oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Love cults.
They're great.
If you're a leader, it's great.
It sucks for everyone else.
But if you're the top dog, whynot?
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (17:37):
And I mean now.
It's like everybody in their30s has some money to go see
these concerts.
It's like she does not exist totweens fans, except for the
ones that their moms are able topay for these tickets.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Yeah, so there's going to be a huge gap at some
point.
So the moms which are not yetwell, they're not our age,
they're how old?
Are you?
35, 35?
So I mean the moms that arebuying a t swizzy.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
They're my age, they are your age yeah, you think so,
and they have middle schooldaughters.
Really, they're the moms that Iknow that had kids they're only
two years, they're like 23,like 20, 20 to 23, have
daughters in middle school andnow it's like the thing they do
together Interesting.
Yeah, that's crazy.
So by the time, jet, our eightmonth old daughter is in middle
(18:18):
school.
Yeah, I don't think TaylorSwift's going to be something
we're doing with her Probablynot.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Yeah, it'll probably be Sabrina Carpenter.
God damn, it had to come backto Sabrina Carpenter.
Here we go.
She'll be around full circle,right there, circle does it
again, brings it all the wayback home, here we go.
Yeah, there it is.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Uh, drake will probably still be a thing, you
know, but just uh man, this isactually a heated argument
between, like my guy friends andthe girls.
We all love drake but alsotaylor.
Swift has buried drake as faras who's the biggest artist
alive.
I drake, admits, but there's nocompetition at all, it's not?
Speaker 1 (18:59):
anything.
I mean there is a competition.
He's the biggest rapper alivethey do, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
So he shouts her out and he's like tagging her in his
post to try to get paid.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
I mean the thing with drake.
He's just trying to be alive,like and not in a physical body,
but, yes, in physical body, butalso like and just in the
public's eye, like he is tryingto outdo michael jackson, yeah
he is he was.
He is honestly our era'sMichael Jackson.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
That's true.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
There's nobody bigger than Drake.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Besides, Taylor Swift yeah, and I agree with that and
I would argue Beyonce, becauseI personally have an affection.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
I personally Beyonce over Taylor Swift, in my opinion
, but also was raised on blackmusic, so I just like Beyonce
more.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Well, I mean, mean that's hard because I don't
think there's any actual likethere's.
No, there's not any.
There are any facts you couldpoint to here that I would
support that I know it's allemotional.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
It's all emotional at this point.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
It's all emotional I feel like that's how guys are
about drake.
Yeah, no, he's not selling outshows, but like it's more
emotional drake is selling outshows, though well, yeah, but
just not on the level that, likeI mean, taylor swift is just so
much bigger than anything Ithink we've ever seen drake sold
out.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Climate pledge yeah.
Taylor.
Swift sold out lumen field,where the seahawks play multiple
nights, multiple nights.
There's a big difference there.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
I agree.
Also, taylor Swift is stillputting out albums that have
numerous hit songs, and Drake,we're like man, but that Take
Care album was good.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Take Care album was fire, though Honestly, my
favorite album of Drake wasNothing.
Was was the same.
I think that's a good argument.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Yeah, that's my favorite one.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
But I think the hip-hop aficionados would say
take care take.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
I mean marvin's room though just like.
It's just a vibe in the agethat it came out like when that
we were like and I know there'sa studio he recorded in which
was marvin's room in hollywood.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Yeah, on sunset I was two blocks away from marvin's
room when I was in audiorecording um school.
You could hear him sobbingwhile he I could hear drake, two
blocks away, sobbing on sunsetfor Marvin's room.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Damn.
Actually.
What are your favorite sunsetof live music spots?
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Sorry, sunset Boulevard sunset sunset
Boulevard live music spots, Imean there were.
I didn't really go to a lot oflive music stuff, um, mostly
because I was just grinding inthe studio yeah all the time.
So I didn't have time, but Idid see trippy red.
Like trippy red's a rapper, uh,and he was just coming out at
the time.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
He was a soundcloud rapper yeah, trippy red is
fairly like I.
I don't know, I mean he's wellknown now, but like most people
wouldn't know who he is.
I feel like, of our audience,at least I mean we've already
bonded over mac miller in thepast and mac me yeah your.
Your audience is not going toknow rip I'm trying to get a
tattoo of mac miller.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
honestly, um, yeah, like trippy red, I saw him, um,
in hollywood.
It was dude, I don't rememberthe name of the joint, it was
some random theater, yeah.
But we did a lot of our school,the audio engineering school,
did a lot of live audiorecording events there, just to
(22:44):
for our students, for the peoplethat are recording it, to learn
, you know.
So we did a lot of events there.
Trippie wasn't a part of ithe's too big of a name even at
that point for that but we had,like, some random bands around
Hollywood that would do stuffwith us.
So, it's, it was fun.
I mean, the Trippie red thingwas, yeah, it was down a couple
(23:04):
of blocks, it was, I mean,everything in sunset's down a
couple blocks, honestly.
But, um, the the spot where Iwas recording at.
So you go down the, go down thestreet, there's chick-fil-a on
the corner, fire, um, and thenyou go down a little bit further
there's a studio I'm not gonnaname who they are, uh, because
they don't sponsor the podcastum, but um, that's where
(23:27):
marvin's room is and, yeah, liketwo blocks away, my studio was
where eminem did his first ep orlp, his first lp there, and
then also tupac recorded therewith the marsh mallers lp.
Yeah, yeah, the marsh mallerslp was recorded there.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Banger Tupac Um.
Was that the last good albumrecovered?
Recorded their last good albumProbably.
You can't say the name of it,so we will never know.
Um well, the studio, the studionow is owned by the recording
school but they took over thatownership.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Okay, before it was owned by Interscope, um, or also
death Row Records, stuff likethat, because Pac recorded Me
Against the World there a lot ofhis earlier albums at that spot
.
But yeah, now it's owned by therecording studio.
That's also Los AngelesRecording School and Los Angeles
(24:25):
Film School as well.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
So they're big, yeah, recording school and los
angeles film school as well.
So they're big, yeah, sam and Ilast summer did the most basic
bitch tour of sunset.
Yeah, possibly tell me, tell meso we're down there and we're
visiting my little brother wholives in silver lake.
You know which is like trendycoming up.
So sam likes reality tv.
She watched, uh, vanderpumprules, yeah.
(24:49):
So of course, what's there?
Speaker 1 (24:51):
they're at my winery really.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Yeah, vanderpump yeah , the winery, I was working at
the time.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Yeah, they're, they came.
Okay, they did a filmed episodethere.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Oh yeah, it's fun okay, I think I've actually
heard of that happening.
Yeah, because sam was tellingabout their wines.
Because, like I know justenough more about wine that sam
tries to impress me with realityTV show wine facts from time to
time.
Yeah, it's not that fun, but sowe start.
We start the night at.
What is it?
Uh, sir, is that the first one?
The van the Vanderpump'srestaurant down in West
(25:22):
Hollywood?
No idea, yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Whatever, yeah, yeah, whatever, let's call it, sir, I
might, I might, totally soundslike this thing.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Okay, just fucking sucks.
This is the worst restaurant.
Like I mean it's fine, butyou're, people are only there
because of the tv show.
Now, I'm sure it was good 10years ago, sure?
And now it's like, oh, you'rejust getting there to get the
fried goat cheese balls and it'ssuper expensive.
The fried goat cheese balls Imade better ones for for the
(25:49):
Vanderpump Rules reunion episodethan we got at the actual
restaurant.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Oh, wow, yeah they weren't.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
That good is what I'm getting at.
And then we go up and we didthe like Whiskey, a Go-Go Viper
Room.
There's another one across fromthat, not a new one, an old one
across.
I can't remember what the nameof third one was, because at
this point we're so drunk thatI'm like yelling at my little
brother on the sidewalk in frontof the live music place, but it
(26:17):
was super fun.
I mean, these are all like sooutdated at this point.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Whiskey gogo is legendary, though it is, yeah,
the doors, jim morrison, they're.
They were discovered there onelike Viper Room, is legendary
for specific reasons.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
You know it's referenced in like Molly's Game.
It's referenced in, basicallyyou know, some great people
dying there, that kind of thing.
But it was really fun to do.
And you know it's not like soldout as touristy, they're still
like owned and run as live musicshows.
Oh cool.
And the up and coming artiststhere are super small, nobody.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Did you go to the original Whiskey Go Go or the
new one, the original, theoriginal, nice yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
And so there's.
I mean there's some cool stuffgoing on, but it's like will I
remember anybody's name that Isaw those nights?
No, yeah, and there's 20 peoplethere.
I which makes me think, like,are people who are saying like,
oh, we saw this band 25 yearsago, whiskey ago, go?
Do they actually remember it?
(27:21):
Or did you just go see somelive band and then you like put?
Speaker 1 (27:25):
the dates together later and you're like, yeah, I
was there yeah yeah, totally,because you're not gonna know at
that moment you're not gonnaremember like oh, that was that
band, that was amazing, blew mybrain away.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Yeah, I mean, how amazing would you have to be in
front of 50 people?
Yeah, because, like the wholevibe isn't going to be there,
you'd have to blow everybody'sminds away for me to remember
the name of that band yeahhowever many years well, the
thing is with the music industry, it doesn't really matter the
audience.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
You have it just meant.
It just matters who is in theaudience.
Right, so it's like you canplay a whiskey, go 50 people.
But if a and R is there fromlike Interscope or Capitol
records and they hear your shitand they think you're amazing.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Well then, when some dude 20 years later from Rolling
Stone writes an article abouthow I saw this band that night
yeah, and this band's huge atthat point, yeah and you're like
, wait, was that the night I wasthere?
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Yeah, and then you look at your calendar and you're
like that was the night I wasthere.
I did see them.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Yeah, exactly Not, because you remember them and
thought this is going to be thebiggest band in the world.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
This is going to be the next Taylor Swift the next
Taylor Swift.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
But we have audio that Ian claims he knows who the
next Taylor Swift is.
It's.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Sabrina Carpenter.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Sabrina Carpenter.
She is thousand percent.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Sabrina Carpenter is the next T Swizzy, that's an
espresso.
Vina Nespresso, vina Nespresso,all right.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Well, the next time you bring me on here, I'm
bringing the guitar Do it.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
We're going to see what you can do.
Let's do it.
Thanks for coming on brother,hey man.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
I've been waiting months for the invite.
I appreciate it a lot.
Of course I'm happy.
I rose to a high enough levelthat you brought me on.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
So thank you I got you.
Thank you, jabronis.
Go look at the Beer League.
It's all in the show notes.
Go check them out.
We love you.
Cheers, cheers, cheers, cheersyou.
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