163 - Deep Ocean: The Hubris of Man

Thalassophobia and Heeby Jeeby WARNING!!

Steven dives into some deep ocean trivia that may frighten those of you who sweat when playing Subnautica. Cooper, Aidan, and Cameron compete in for DEEP coin in this evolution of the Fish episode. But what lurks in the depths of the aphotic zone? Find out this week.

Episode Transcript

(00:03):
Welcome aboard Bus 1. We're on our way to Santa
Barbara, CA, and we've got some time to kill.
Let's do some trivia. Passengers, Introduce yourselves
in alphabetical order. What's up, everyone?
It's Aiden. How's it going everyone?
It's Cameron. Yeah, and I'm Cooper.

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And I'm Steven, your Hostess with the mostess.
Today's topic is the one I know,right?
I'm getting a little fancy, you know, second episode, you know
you. Know.
Today's topic is one that I saidI could easily do in the fascist
episode, but I said I wouldn't do it.
Well, if you fell for that one. Fooled ya.

(00:50):
I'm a compulsive liar. Today's episode is all about the
deep ocean. Thoughts.
I actually locked in my challenge when you did that.
Reactive challenge. Oh well Aiden, for that 1 you
get 3 points. Really.
Let's go. I'm I'm lumped into that.
Or did you lie because you're a compulsive liar?

(01:12):
He lied again. Got his ass, got so bad.
I have a problem. Let's get to the rules.
As you all know, the real reasonwhy we're all headed to Santa
Barbara, CA is to visit the Monterey Bay Aquarium Research
Institute, where a great deal ofAmerican research of the Pacific
Ocean, and specifically the deepocean, takes place.

(01:34):
Along our speedy trip there, youguys are going to answer 3
rounds of five questions. This time you're competing for
Deep Ocean Coins. I'm handing out one deep ocean
coin. 4 questions in the first round, two in the second, three
in the third. No buzzers this time.
I don't like buzzers. Is that crypto?
Is deep ocean coin a crypto? Yeah, that's the new crypto.

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It's. It really sounds.
Like don't tell them about my pump and dump scheme, OK, We're.
Cutting down so it's an AI generated crypto.
Yeah, the real winner of the episode gets to be the one to
do. That, OK, so let's, let's let's
cut all of that out and then you're going to say that and I'm
going to be like, this is brilliant investment
opportunity. OK.
Steven, is that crypto? Yes, it is, and it's an

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incredible investment opportunity.
It's actually tied to the deep ocean.
I'm going to tell you all about it as we go through the episode.
Deep ocean isn't going anywhere,guys.
It's getting on the ground. Deep ocean.
It's always been there. It's the root.
The blockchain, just someone said blockchain, blockchain,
blockchain, it's on the block. Deep Learning.
To AI, that's algorithm. How many more buzzwords can we

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throw in? Buzz.
No Cooper, no buzz. In this episode.
So we can't do anymore buzzword.Can't do anymore buzzwords
episodes. Steven hates fuzzwords.
Now, a little bit more about myself, though I'm still a
compulsive liar and I couldn't help myself this episode. 1 of
the answers that I will inevitably tell you is correct
will not be correct. If you catch me, I'm giving you

(03:01):
3 deep ocean coins, and if you catch me during the question
itself, I'll give you a whopping5 deep ocean coins total. 5
depot. You know what you can buy with
that? No, nothing in a couple months.
But if you you can buy a house with that, you can buy it

(03:27):
opposite that. You just you just see a hook
come in from off screen and likeyank a moment.
You can buy with that anything you want on I'm.
Sorry, sometimes the truth comesout.
I mean, sometimes the truth comes out and I can't, I can't
handle it. Even it's a compulsive truth.
Compulsive truth, equal and opposite reaction.
If you're wrong, though, if you're wrong about your

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challenge, you'll lose three of your Deep ocean coins.
Damn the blockchain will take itback man.
In addition to being worth so much money, real money deep
ocean coins are a sign of respect at the Monterey Bay
Aquarium Research Institute. So whoever has the most deep
ocean coins will be the most respected at the Monterey Bay

(04:09):
Aquarium Research Institute. You got all that?
Sounds good. I do.
I do like the the idea of like Stevens episodes are all about
trying to earn respect. Yeah, at the destination.
Fish Up is, yeah, it's all aboutlike when you get to the
destination, everyone's like, hey, respect for your, your
performance. I heard you did some true fish.
Fry Yeah, welcome. To the fish fry, No.

(04:30):
Welcome to the Monterey Bay Aquarium.
You have 15 lbs. A 10 pounder fish, you know,
respect man sacked and let me say these deep ocean coins.
I don't know what that's about. I'm ready to talk about respect.
Let's talk. About respect, let me just say

(04:51):
woohoo. Woohoo RESBECT.
And in the last episode, I wrotethe fish one.
OK, I did not indulge myself in doing all fish biology
questions, and I tried to have some good variety.
It's as if I was on a leash. But now let's just say I'm off
the leash. Let's just say it's all biology.

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To use the same analogy. It's as if I've been unleashed.
God, he said it. Oh my God, guys, we have to
He's. Been unleashed and he's diving.
He's diving deeper and deeper. We're about to dive off the.
Tether. Oh no.
I'm sinking. No, he's off the.

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The iceberg that is fish biology, he's going to the very
bottom. The bottle of the fish biology
iceberg. Now I'm kind of I'm pretty
pumped. Now I am pretty pumped.
Now I'm glad I sold you let. Me just say.
Let's get unleashed, bro. Round one.
This round is titled Humble Beginnings Killer.

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The beginnings of the deep ocean.
How far back are we going? The deep ocean is generally
defined as the depth at which light begins to dwindle,
beginning at around 656 feet, or, you know, 200 meters.
This is known as the Twilight zone.
Play music Ocean depths greater than 3280 feet or 1000 meters

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are completely devoid of sunlight, so this is known as
the aphotic zone. Play Music.
How deep is the ocean on average?
Closest answer Winds. Oh man.
Oh, in. Average.
Are you looking for a specific unit?
Feet or meters? I'll take either.
It's not miles. Interesting.

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I Cooper I could do the calculations, but that's
annoying. So that's really.
Interesting because like how much is the deepest of deep
ocean? 839 meters.
Oh my gosh, that's your guess. That's that's the answer, not
the answer. To that.
OK, I thought you were answeringit.

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He's. Given in meters, huh?
Yeah, given in meters you can dometers or feet.
I don't want him to do. Leagues.
Yes, please. Leagues.
Well, a league's like technically 2 meters.
No, no, a fathom. You have to do it in.
Fathoms. Fathoms.
Yeah, cuz 20,000. Yeah, I'm not gonna get in it.
Just. It's been a while since I'm a

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compulsive unit or it's a problem.
I'm just. You just keep trying to bring up
obscure nautical. Anyway, yeah, darn right.
I'm gonna say. I'm gonna say most of the ocean.
I'm gonna say 1001 feet. I'm gonna say most of it is in
the dark, in the aphotic zone. OK.

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I would agree with that. I'll say average 3500 feet.
OK. Or wait, I meant to say 1001
meters. OK, 1001 meters.
Oh, I'm the only. I'm the only.
Feeder you're the only feed whatever the euphotic zone #1
deeper than that is cuz. I mean, the Marianas Trench is

(08:16):
like, and like Challenger Deep is like crazy deep that
obviously that's gonna pull downthe average, right?
I guess the Earth is big, but yeah.
Yeah, I don't know if it would pull down the average Cooper.
OK, I mean so. It.
Obviously does, because Cooper answered in feet and everyone
answered in meters. I'm gonna do a quick conversion

(08:36):
using my phone. I'm allowed phones, you all are
not. I forgot to mention that in the
rules. I heard that phones don't work
in the depot. That's true.
There's no connection down thereand that's where we are.
We're not driving to Santa Barbara, CA.
How deep is Santa Barbara? We're driving the long way
through the deep ocean. We've taken the route, we've
taken the route under the water.We have our like a diving.

(08:57):
Belt and then plus Aiden, what did you say again?
I said just 1001 meters. OK, Cooper, you were the
closest, although I would say none of you were the closest.
I think mine's the highest, right?
Yes, because so you get 1 deep ocean coin for that.
The average depth of the ocean is actually 12,000 and 80 feet

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or 3006 182 meters. What is?
What is that in fathoms? And fathoms, how many fathoms
are divide by 6? Divide by 6?
Six feet, 6 feet, 6 feet. Yeah.
So I was gonna say like. 3000 fathoms but I didn't know what
the conversion was. OK, I would have still done
that. Yeah.
Overall, the ocean is very deep.It's at about 12,000 and 80 feet

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on average, although this numberis probably somewhat inaccurate
because the bottom of the ocean isn't very uniform or flat.
It's just as mountainous as the land, maybe even more so, and
only 1/4 of the Earth's sea floor has been mapped in high
resolution. That's terrifying.
Sweet. If we take this number, that
means about 95% of the ocean is to consider to be in at least

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the twilight zone or the deep ocean, and about 73% of the
ocean is eternally plunged into complete darkness.
Yeah, there's got to be shit that lives down there.
On average, the Ocean's pretty deep and pretty dark.
And then I wrote a long disclaimer that I'm not going to
read. Are we going down there or are
we just talking about it? Yeah, we don't have to go down
there, right, Steven? Yeah, I'm.
Last week's or the two weeks ago's episode was murder

(10:23):
mystery. I don't feel like doing a horror
movie inside this shell, this carbon fiber shell down to the
no. We were smarter.
We were smarter carbon fiber shells.
I'm seeing carbon fiber. You know why?
It looks great guys. Cameron or resident?
We all know construction engineer.

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The creaking sound means that it's working.
Don't worry guys, you may be on to something with that line of
thought. Going deeper, the Challenger
Deep is named after the HMS Challenger and is the deepest
point in the ocean, being insideof a large depression and the

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already unusually deep Marianas Trench and is about 36,000 feet
deep. The HMS Challenger remarkably
discovered the spot during what was the first major scientific
expedition devoted to the very new field of oceanography.
What year was the Challenger Deep discovered once again
closest? So it's not named after the
movie Challengers. No, I believe that was named.

(11:26):
After it's. A challenger.
After the Challenger Deep. OK, Yeah.
I believe it's in the movie. Interesting they play tennis at
the bottom of the challengers. Second, the second-half of the
movie takes it twice. It's a deep, let's just say.
You want to stay tuned. You'll want to be in your seat.
Well, the one of the first majorscientific vessels.

(11:46):
It was the first major scientific expedition devoted to
the new field of oceanography. Can I ask a clarifying question?
Like how did they discover it? OK, never mind.
Yeah. I was just saying just get a
long row, OK? Yeah, it yeah.
Is it like sonar like? No, this was before Sonar.
I'm gonna I will share it after you all.
Guess sounds good. I'll say 1931, OK. 1879.

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Cameron, you're the closest. Wow.
The year was 1875. It was discovered pretty much on
a fluke, so bad weather forced them off their normal course to
avoid landing in Guam, and instead they ventured over the
underwater Canyon known as the Marianas Trench.
So they randomly did a depth test while they were passing

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over this point, which they accomplished by dropping like a
weighted rope with depth markings on it until it reached
the bottom. The entire process took over an
hour and a half and by the time it reached the bottom, everyone
else on the boat was like freaking out and celebrating
this. Is crazy that's.
Crazy, yeah. They did it manually.
That's insane. So they had to pull it back up

(12:56):
manually as though no, presumably they.
Know that it hit the bottom. I actually don't know.
I tried to find more informationbut probably.
When you drop the rope and it loses slack.
Yeah, that's what I. Depends how much weight is on
it. They were off by a couple 100
feet. They went back to the point
around the point that they documented taking the
measurement off and they're off by a couple 100 feet.

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So it wasn't quite 100% accurate, but it was pretty darn
close and also like a miracle that they found it.
Yeah, for analog measurement that is.
Crazy for a for a thing, a big thing, a rope in a presumably a
big fucking rock. That's pretty good.
Yeah, and the fact that the out of the entire ocean, they found

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the deepest spot in the entire ocean on the first time they
ever went there is nuts. That's nuts, Steven.
Yeah, I think a question about the Challenger Deep would be a
pretty good one to have the Challenger question.
OK. Are you challenging I'm.
Just gonna, I'm just gonna have to test you here and challenge

(14:01):
the challenger. Doing the that, if that hits,
holy shit. OK.
I never challenge like a year ora number that you just have to
pull out of your ass because howare you?
Telling me they found it first try with a rope and they don't
know how they'd hit the bottom. Cooper, that is correct.
They did actually find it in 1875 Or is it?

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Your challenge is not correct. It is correct.
So good. Yeah, I was like you're.
Wrong. Like I, I saw this recently when
it just like on something that was like when you're writing
something and you're like, oh, this doesn't make sense.
Like this is too much of A coincidence.
You don't realize how many wackycoincidences actually just

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happened in history. Yeah.
And so. And they're you're.
Telling me you didn't make the Challenger Deep question the
challenge question. Don't worry, we have another
Challenger Deep question right now.
Question. Three you guys right now, child.
Music tells this one. Cooper, you.
Lose. You can try.
You lose. No, I have -2.

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No, I have coin. No, there's no debt.
So you can feel free to challenge right now if you so.
Choose no debt. No debt.
I'm not a fan of debt. Someone called the bank are.
You saying I can challenge more than once?
We have it unlocked deep ocean coin debt.
No, you can only challenge once.I believe that's what I said
this once. OK, question.
Three, I can't. Trust anything.

(15:25):
This question is actually about the Challenger Deep though.
I didn't lie that though. OK, excited.
I may be a compulsive liar, but I didn't lie about that. 75
years after the original HMS Challenger discovery of the
Challenger Deep, Swiss oceanographer Jacques Picard and
American Naval Lieutenant Don Walsh would make the first

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voyage to the bottom. That's a good name, which gives
them the rare honor of being among the three people who have
been down there, with James Cameron joining that club in
2012. Cameron.
That's me there. You.
Go The Trieste, which was named after the Italian city it was
constructed in, was designed by Auguste Picard, Jacques Picard's
father, and was purchased by theUnited States Navy in 1958 for

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the scientific dives that would be conducted under Project
Nekton. If you know what a bathysphere
looks like, you know what the submersible looks like.
But if you don't, just imagine abig steel ball with a leather a
large ship ballast on top. But the 1960 voyage to the
bottom of the Challenger Deep did not go smoothly.
Went went wrong during the expedition.

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Was it? A the oxygen in their vessel
compressed too much and they gotsick and became delirious.
B the ballast lost buoyancy all at once, causing their vessel to
sink rapidly for the last 6000 feet of their descent.
C the window on their pod cracked and began to leak.
Or D the power went out for an extended period of time,

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plunging them into complete darkness for nearly an hour.
Dang. I feel like I know the answer to
this one. I'm going to be very upset when
I don't get it right. I think it's the oxygen thing.
I was reading A Sphere by Michael Crichton, which is like
a Drew C thriller. It's very scary if you are
afraid of the deep ocean and their whole because he goes into

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the science of it. They have to create an
atmosphere with like helium downthere because the pressure makes
weird stuff happen to your bloodor something.
I'll say that. OK.
I will say the ballast thing where they did like a free fall
OK for the last 6000. Feet and then Cameron.
Can you repeat the other two answers?

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And keep in mind you can answer some of the other ones if you
would like. But the window on their pod
cracked and began to leak that Cor D.
The power went out for an extended period of time,
plunging them into complete darkness for nearly an hour.
I'm going D. OK, I.
Feel like if your window cracks like it's over when you're done?
Yeah, you're done. Well, unfortunately none of you

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got the point, because their viewing glass did in fact,
crack. Begin to leak.
Yes it actually did. The outer plexiglass window pane
cracked at a depth of about 30,000 feet, causing water to
flood into the inner viewing window.
Oh OK so they had multiple layers so it didn't like start
filling. Single plane glass.

(18:20):
So OK, my wording was a bit misleading, but that was on
purpose. Just a.
Little bit. Wait, Steve, you said we can't
go negatives, right? There's no debt.
Yeah, you feel free to. Challenge challenging the
Challenger Deep quest. You have no points.
No one's going to be able to challenge but.
He's a hero. He's a hero.
I'm doing it. Well, it's gotta be this one.
Well, OK, let's Yeah, unfortunately that's incorrect.

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The viewing class did crack and this journey was crazy.
OK, so at about 30,000 feet, theouter window cracked, causing
water to flood into the interviewing window.
And then when this occurred, theentire vessel violently shook.
And they reported hearing a loudshriek.
But then they checked the pressure and oxygen gauges and
we're like, we're all good. And they just kept going.

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Wow. Dang.
They noticed. They saw the crack.
They saw it filling with water. And they're just like, you know,
we're just gonna keep going. That's.
It'll probably be. Fine.
So one detail I haven't shared is how long the whole ordeal
took. So the descent took about four
hours and 45 minutes, with them sinking at about 1m a second.
They sat at the bottom of the Challenger Deep for about 20

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minutes and reported seeing flatfish swimming around the
diatomaceous ooze ocean floor. So it's important to note that
neither of the men had any extensive biological knowledge
at all, and what they were seeing was probably sea
cucumbers, because flatfish can't exist at that depth
without having all the moisture crushed out of their bodies.
So they didn't know what they were talking about.

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But we sent those two guys, so tell me how that makes sense.
That's crazy. The ascent, then.
Took so that was that was in the50s.
This was in the Sixties, 1960. 6.
Wow. So the ascent then took them
three hours and 15 minutes. They had a cracked window that
was full of water. For almost 4 hours of that

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journey, it was about. They're on the way up.
Yeah. So they sat at the bottom for
about 20 minutes. The window had already cracked
at that point. And then the way up took three
hours and 15 minutes. Quite the ordeal.
So some additional things to note is about 40°F inside the
Velcil at all times, because that's the temperature at which

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water is the densest. So that's pretty consistently
the temperature of the deep ocean.
This is the same temperature as the inside of your refrigerator,
for reference. 2, it smelled like gasoline the entire time
because the ballast operated by emptying gasoline into the water
to reduce buoyancy. So it just smelled like
gasoline. And then three, that's awful.

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They also reported hearing loud creaking and groaning noises
throughout the entire journey. It's probably just the sound of
the ocean. Yeah, and also where?
Was that on the torture up? It was.
It was just most definitely the sound of the the vessel itself.
Yeah, almost certainly. They just.
Yeah, that happens when you put a lot of pressure on a sphere.

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So that that was a hellish journey that they went through.
Yeah, that's terrifying. Oh, you could not pay me to make
that true. Yeah, I just like I have the
heebie jeebies right now and the.
Fact that the window cracked andthey were like, ah, you know,
it's fine. And they just kept going.
Yeah. Most of the way.
That makes more sense if they were already down there, right?
Like if like no point in going back up because we'll probably

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die on the way. If it's dangerous anywhere,
let's. See, and they were almost at the
bottom. They were at 30,000 feet, right?
And they went to 36,000 feet. So it's like they were mostly.
Yeah, that's like they were there.
They're active. They're like, might as well get
over the line. Yeah.
Were they like radioing back or did they have to come all the
way back and then be like, we saw these weird fish?
They had like a line that was ina tether.

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I actually forgot to write this down but I read about this.
They had a line that would periodically lose connection
that they could communicate through that was essentially
like, yeah, radio. So when the thing cracked, they
just didn't have any communication until they were at
the bottom. So they spent like 30 minutes
without any communication and they were like, yeah, by the
way, the window cracked, We're ready to go up now.

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That's great. So, fun bonus question, While
I'm thinking there's a, there's a.
Pull system like pull twice for window.
Yeah, they just had like 2 cans on a string, 2 cans on a string
that they could just speak through.
So fun bonus question while I'm thinking about it and while it's
relevant, the Titan submersible was that submarine that floated

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during its private expedition tothe Titanic in June of 2023.
At what depth did the vessel implode?
If you're within 1000 feet, I'llgive you it.
I wanna say it was 6000 feet. OK, I was gonna say 12,000.
OK, Aiden. Hey, I was also gonna say 12,000

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but I'll say 10. OK, Aiden and Cooper, you both
get 1 deep ocean coin. It was 11,000 feet.
Pipes. So they were approaching the
Titanic. They said something along the
lines of we're about to drop 2 weights and then three seconds
later there was a loud ping noise and then they were never
heard from again. And that is at about 11,000

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feet. That gives me the heebie Gee.
Yeah, that is terrifying. Yeah.
And that's why. Wasn't it?
Didn't they find the records andit it had like fully just
imploded? It imploded.
Yeah, it was all over the place.It was about 500 meters from the
Titanic. Wow, they're they died before
they even knew what happened. Their brains didn't process.

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They had no chance to. Their brain couldn't even
process what happened fast enough.
That's how quickly it implodes. So I guess they didn't suffer.
Yes, exactly. They did not like it was fucking
it got Didn't they say the implosion at its core got to
like the surface of the sun because of how much pressure the
collapse of the. I think I read something like

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that. It got incredibly high, yeah.
Question 4. Sonar technology first saw
widespread use during World War 2 and this is when sonar
operators first witnessed the bizarre phenomenon.
The deep scattering layer, also known as the phantom bottom,
would make sonar operators thinkthat they were approaching the
ocean floor. They observed the false bottom

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rise during the night and fall during day hours.
Originally they believed him to be some sort of any enemy
submarine or technology, but then they discovered it was the
primary responsibility of this fish's daily migrations.
And yes, I kind of alluded to this during the fish episode.
So if you remember what I said, you can probably narrow it down
to a 5050. AI remember you talking about

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it? I remember you talking about it
too. Well, let's I was on that.
Let's put your knowledge test. But I know you saw it, everyone
has seen it. I was on in this.
Room Everyone in this room, in this bus.
Cooper, were you on that episode?
Yes, I was. I won the episode, Cameron.
That was disrespectful of kicking your ass.
Oh my God, with his Animal Crossing knowledge, you remember

(25:09):
that do? You remember that now, Cameron?
Or did you block that from your mind?
No, the Animal Crossing. The fucking fucking Cooper.
So, OK, which fish was responsible for the deep
scattering layer? A Lantern fish, B bristlemouths,
C Viper fish or D snail fish andyes.
I just talked about all. Of the exact.

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Same. Place.
Yes, yes. The exact same list.
Steven Oh, I remember talking about D Scary bristle mouths
were. I don't know D snailfish.
Snailfish DI. Remember, the snailfish is the

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one that looked like a dog and lanternfish you're like, it's
not the one you're thinking of. Yeah, I did say that.
It's not an English fish, the bristlemouth.
I remember we, we, we looked up pictures of that and.
It was scary, was it? Lantern fish that that looks
like glowing anchovies. Yeah, I I think I said glowing

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sardines. I'm gonna say Lantern fish, OK
cuz? I'm gonna say Lantern fish too.
That rung a bell. Something about camouflaging in
the. Against the yeah.
Against the Yeah. Well that would be correct.
You both get 1 deep ocean coin. So Lantern fish are, as I said,
the most common fish in the deepocean and make up about 65% of

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deep sea biomass. So it's them just rising up made
them think the floor was rising.Up there were so many of them
that their sonar was pinging offof it and it looked like the
bottom, like the ocean floor that's.
Crazy. That's so cool.
Also must be the scariest thing ever being in a submarine and

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thinking the ocean floor is like, moving.
Yeah. How do you if if you can't even
like see the floor for reference, How do you even like
maneuver at all in the ocean? I honestly I have.
No reference you have. Cuz it's like I know U boats
were a thing before like during World War One and stuff.

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So they like head submersibles? Well I bet they were more like
the early U boats were probably not like going super duper deep,
it was just more about sealed. Yeah, but that's still like
crazy cuz it's like so hard to see where you're going.
But I mean, if you're like a ship in like the old days on the
open ocean, you're kind of doingthe same thing like a sailing.

(27:42):
Ship. I guess the ocean is just scary,
just being the ocean. Is terrible.
I feel like we've already established this with the first
like 4 questions. This isn't Where are we going?
What's the? What's is it like fasilophobia
or something like that? Fasilophobia.
Yeah, that's fear of the ocean. Fear of the deep?
Yeah. Fear of the open ocean.
We should. We should have like a warning of

(28:04):
like. We might need to put a content.
The content warning because it'sa lot of that.
If Subnautica makes you sweat then.
TV GB warning. Yeah, heebie GB warning bro.
If the game Subnautica makes yousweat, then this episode is not
for you. I could.
Never you. Could.
Yeah. I can't.
I would it myself. So to continue on my

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description, that means about 65% of the deep scattering layer
was the bodies of Lantern fish, or rather it was reflecting off
their swim bladders, which are like, they're the organs that
are inside fish that like fill with air to help them rise and
they, you know, deflate to help them sink.
That's where our lungs come from.
They evolved into lungs. That's actually really cool.

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So Lantern fish swim. Bladder.
You learn a lot in the fish episodes.
Sinks Lantern fish. Lantern.
Fish, thank you, but it wasn't from Lantern Fish.
It was just thank. You tektalik for giving me swim
bladders that I can breathe with.
That is critical. I would hate to breathe air.
I mean water. I mean, who would hate to
breathe air? I can't help myself, I keep

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lying. Lantern fish go from as deep as
5000 feet to as shallow as 30 feet, rising at night to feed on
the plankton that remain in the photic zone and sinking into the
twilight zone, play music to hide from predators and to
follow prey that also make thosemigrations.
I'll talk a little bit more about Lantern fish in the next
question. Question 5.

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Lantern fish are named as such because of their
bioluminescence. They use their photo force to
communicate with each other to help with mating.
So it's like you can recognize what species you are because
it's hard to do that in the dark.
And for counter illumination, which is like hiding their
silhouettes from below. I talked about that last time.
What does this look like? What color light do Lantern fish

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produce? A red light, B yellow light, C
white light or D blue light? D Blue light.
I'm going to go against my better judgment.
C. White light, White light.
OK. Yeah, maybe they are blue and it
filters it. I'm going to go because red

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light is the lowest energy production.
I'll say red light. OK Cooper, you're correct, the
answer is blue light SO answer. From pictures that it was blue.
There you. Go should have.
Just gone. Bioluminescence is like a
blue-green. Kind of, yeah.
Yeah, I should have just gone with what I thought it was
gonna. Be And that's on purpose because
they have the help of symbiotic bioluminescent bacteria.

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So, yeah, if you've ever seen those pictures of like, the
waves in Puerto Rico or Hawaii, you know, it glows greener blue,
kind of green, blue. Covered it in bioluminescent
algae. Algae as a division.
And the reason why? Quick Moana reference for.
You there you. Go.
See, I like that because it's related to what we're talking

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about. I like that reference because
it's topical. Yes, and that's the end of round
one. Nice job guys.
I've always enjoyed how topical you all these are.
Yeah, you're always on top of itwhen it comes.
To I'm the CTO, Chief Topical Officer.

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And I'm the CFO, the Chief Fun Officer.
Yeah, guys. Paragraphs.
I wrote paragraphs underneath every single answer, and I'm
going to read all of them because I did so much research
for this episode. OK, the next one.
No Bioluminescent fish produce blue light because it pierces
the furthest underwater. It's the easiest to see.

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Highest wave like. This So This is why all low
bioluminescent fish produce bluelight despite it evolving
independently from family to family.
The only exception to this is the loose jaw which does produce
red light, and that's because they have specialized eyes that
can see red light really easily and this basically means other
fish can't see their light. Yeah, that's got to be creepy.

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You just like floating around inthe dark and all of a sudden
there's just like a faint red glow.
Yeah, that's when you know it's it's over.
Well, the creepiest thing is that you wouldn't even see the
light because it's so dark underthere and it's like it doesn't.
Peers for red. So yeah, only they can see their
own light. And they use it like a
flashlight to hunt other fish. Whoa.
Like a flashlight? And their name is Loose Jaw.

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So, you know, they look scary. Hey, they're they're like
Rudolph. Yeah.
Can we look up at what a loose? Go ahead, look up a loose Why
did. You just strap a loose jaw into
the front of his. They're like Rudolph when he's
hunting. Sam, I should have loose jaw as
much to get a loose jaw red. Nose is a is an evolutionary
trade proved like other reindeer.

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You guys, how have they not madethat horror this that Christmas
horror movie yet? Rude.
For that, the busload saves Christmas, I think.
Was I the only one that looked up the loose jaw?
Look at that 'cause that is. Terrifying.
It's fucking terrifying. Spoiler morning all decision
this is. Sort of flash of red.

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They all look horrific. Oh my God, that's terrifying.
Got no thank you. No, that's a heebie jeebie
warning right there. Yeah, heebie jeebie.
Warning guys. Editor Flash a picture of the
loose jaw on the. Red light warning.
OK coin check how many deep ocean coins do you have?
2. Three.
Somehow with them challenging, Iam stuck at one.

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That's fucking crazy. Hey.
It's fucking crazy. Cameron But if you challenge
correctly, that's five coin. If I do it in the middle of the
game coop that's. True.
Yeah. But he does have an advantage
because he doesn't have to compete with you guys for that.
So yeah, you can take as much time as you want, Cameron.
So we're going to talk now. Go ahead and do our audience
question and then we'll see you back at Round 2.

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It's many, Cooper underwater. You can't see me because it's
snow dark. I just wanted to know

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that. When?

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Welcome aboard Bus 1. We're on a never ending road
trip and we have to kill the time somehow.
Why not with trivia? What serial was the first to
offer a prize? In the box.
What as Seen on TV product can be seen in the hit film Back to
the Future. How do flat earthers justify the
moon in the sky? Each week the trivia topic

(35:26):
changes. Today the topic is going to be
catch. Phrases.
Dungeons and Dragons. Kung Fu Pan.
Yeah, we also rotate who's hosting and who's competing so
you aren't stuck with the same old voices every week.
I'm John. I'm Sam.
Hey everyone, it's Brooke like agood.
Neighbor, it's Satan. If that sounds chill and fun to

(35:49):
you, check back each Thursday for a shiny new episode.
How many bugs are there do? You divert to James Corden, or
do you let the one? It looks.
Like we're going to have to solve a murder using only the
knowledge of our three contestants.
There's. I challenge the existence of.
Meatloaf. Not to be weird about it, but

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gun to my head, you know, I do like G.
Picturing Sam naked in a shower with the feedback.
You suck my back bullshit. Bus 1 Trivia In trivia, we bus.

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Well, 2 deep ocean tales and legends.
Whoa. The Kraken I really like.
OK, I really like the way that Alec names his trivia how it's
like. You not let.
Do not give credence to that. It's.
So funny to me, it made me laugh.

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And they're always just. Gotta name every round humble.
Be getting humble. Be getting yes.
Humble round. One humble middle of.
OK, humble be getting. That's what he named the first
round in the Abraham Lincoln episode, so that's why I named
it that. That's.
Crazy. It's a good bet question. 6.

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Good bet. The 1st 2 video games in the
Bioshock series take place in anunderwater city known as
Rapture. This city was founded by
visionary Andrew Ryan, who wanted to create a utopia free
from constraining governments, ideologies, and religion
insulated at the bottom of the sea.
The location was very specifically chosen by its
founder to offer a strategic advantage.

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Where was the city of Rapture located?
Underwater. A in the Pacific.
Ocean off the coast of British Columbia.
B in the Atlantic Ocean off the coast of Iceland.
C in the middle of the Pacific Ocean near Point Nemo or D in
the Atlantic Ocean off the coastof Tierra del Fuego near the

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Falkland Islands. D Falklands.
Point Nemo. See.
Over and you guys have answered fast.
I'll do the British Columbia one.
OK, unfortunately you all are incorrect.
It's off the coast of ice. Why Rapture is located off the
coast of island Because the volcanic activity allows for

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cheap geothermal energy which powers the entire.
City. There you go, I should.
Have paid more attention when I played those games.
I they're sitting on my like, you know, I got them free on
Epic Games and I keep looking atthem, but I haven't pulled the
trigger. Yet I don't even just hear what
game you said. Bioshock Bioshock Bioshock is a
very just game where Aiden. You're gonna have to deal with

(38:42):
some scary underwater stuff, OK?Maybe I'll just play infinite
then. Infinite's great.
Infinite's awesome. That's the one I.
Started cool barbershop quartet.God always.
Loves you play all the Bioshock games.
Rehearsed it right, Let's go. There's a group of us that

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learned at. Seven, I don't want to hear
about your group that learns Godonly knows by the beach.
We don't do singing. We.
Don't do singing here. Question 7.
Never sung in my life. The movie Meg 2 The Trench
contains the incredibly stupid premise or megalodons.

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You know the giant sharks from prehistoric times live
underneath the Marianas Trench in a hidden ecosystem underneath
it. Our protagonist.
Yes, I think you mean completelyfactual premise, Steven.
Thanks. We just haven't explored the
entire ocean. We don't know.
We just don't know if they're under there or not.
The visionary writers. Back to the trench like.

(39:48):
Under the the way they sell it okay, a little bit of a sport.
Well, no, this isn't even related to the question.
There's like a salt layer, like the salinity is higher
underneath the Marianas Trench, so the water just doesn't mix
and for some reason they just can't get through the salinity
layer or whatever. I believe that's what it is.
What do you mean like Like, it'slike the water's being held up

(40:11):
by a like salt? No, the salt, the salt content
in the water below the Marianas Trench is so high that it
doesn't mix or whatever. I believe that you.
Mean below the Marianas Trench. Or below the marriage.
That's what I mean, yeah. How is it below the marriage?
This movie doesn't make sense. Our protagonists do some shit

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that accidentally releases 3 megalodons to the surface where
the first thing they start doingis eating people at an ocean
theme park slash resort. The three megalodons are the
girl one, the beta male, and thealpha male.
This is real I. Didn't know they followed wolf
fire. I'm not be asking about any of
this, this is all real. Where do you think the wolves

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got it? From the alpha male, Megalodon
is the main shark villain in themovie.
There are human villains too, but who cares?
How do our protagonists kill theAlpha megalodon?
A. They create a fertilizer bomb,
the alpha Meg eats the bomb and is blown up, and the park guests
clap and sheer in excitement. B.

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The female megalodon kills the injured Alpha Meg, who is
distracted by a pot of dolphins.C our protagonist in an
underwater exosuit, impales the Alpha Meg with the sharp end of
a crashed helicopter rotor. Or D They lure a giant octopus
out of the trench, which then grabs the Alpha Meg and drags it

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back down to its layer. That's it's got to be C This is
crazy. Steven is one of these from the
original Meg are. All of these are at least
loosely related to events that do happen in this movie.
Looking. Great.
See. It's C It has to be C, right?
It has to be Jason Statham underwater.

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With helicopter in an excerpt excerpt suit and it impales it.
OK, that is. Awesome.
It's got to be C I'm going. To say it's B the female killing
it because it probably like lostits alpha status or something
like. And it's distracted by pod of
dolphins. That's right.
Yeah, that's right. OK, Aiden.

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So a is just everybody claps in cheers and with the power.
Of correction, it eats a fertilizer ball and it's blown
up and everyone claps in. Cheers.
What cheer if that happens? Well.
This is the Meg 2 right? Like I feel like that's a way to
deal with Meg one. I'm gonna go D giant squid.
I think they get even crazier with it and are setting.
Up a franchise, yeah. I don't know man, I think the
helicopters another monster. Yeah, cuz then it's gonna be Meg

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3 Tentacle. Jason Season's pretty awesome,
but I think even in our it's hard to beat the Meg.
What? What?
Occurs Can this power scale? Alpha Meg, Jason Statham, Meg.
Soon. I don't, I we.
Got the octopus. The events of the movie is an
octopus knocks the helicopter out of the sky and then Jason

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Statham and the underwater execute impales the Alpha Meg
with the sharp end of the helicopter proto camera so.
The octopus is there. Yes he's there, but there is a
giant octopus and it is killed by the female Meg who is then
also distracted by a pot of dolphins to leave the humans
away. And the fertilizer bomb.
I think that's what kills the octopus.

(43:24):
No no no, the fertilizer bomb, it injuries the octopus and then
the female beta 1 kills the betaone.
It just dies. I've read this summary.
It just says the beta one dies. To get eaten by the alpha and
then they're like, there's always a bigger fish.
I think it dies so it can establish that the alpha is
awesome. So all I have to say about this

(43:45):
movie after this is I'm. Gonna need a bigger boat.
The Deep. Ocean.
The deep ocean. So this movie had a budget of
$130,000,000 and it made $400 million.
Great. That's.
Fucking insane. Oh yeah.
On both accounts, apparently thefirst two hours are extremely

(44:05):
boring, but I wouldn't know because I haven't seen it.
The first two hours. How long is this movie?
Like 2 hours and 30 minutes. So Oh my gosh, it's insanely.
All the actions packed. And the first two hours is like
a smuggling plot between the human villains and like the Meg
is barely in it. If I made you want to see the
movie, be prepared to Fast forward to the last one.
Because we just talked about thelast 30 minutes.

(44:27):
Yeah, adding this to the list ofPatreon ideas is Plus One Meg
Watch. Bird the Meg two watch.
Yeah, we gotta start. We gotta really start a Patreon,
man. Just us sitting here watching
the Meg. Yeah, sounds terrific.
Now I like that idea. You know what?
Shut up, Cooper. Clearly you're the you're the
chief NFO chief. No fun, officer.

(44:49):
Shut up, shut up. Cameron, we're moving on to
Question 8, so shut up. That's no way to that's no way
to speak to the Chief Fun Officer.
Yes, Sir. The Call of Cathulu It's a
cosmic horror short story written by American author HP
Lovecraft and it was written in the summer of 1926.
This story is the first instanceof the Cathulu character, a

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massive God like creature which is a mix between an octopus, a
dragon and a humongous man that sleeps at the bottom of the
ocean in the ruins of a long lost civilization.
What real life event inspired HPLovecraft to write The Call of
Cthulhu? A He tried to sell a sculpture
he made to an ancient History Museum, arguing it came from a

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long lost civilization he saw inhis dreams.
B He saw an octopus for the first time.
C He saw a mermaid figurehead onthe front of his ship covered in
barnacles and seaweed. Or D his grandfather told him
made-up the made-up story as a kid and his grandfather was
ripping off several other older stories, such as the lost city

(45:52):
of Atlantis. Lovecraft was kind of nuts,
wasn't he? Yeah, he's a he's an interesting
guy. He's a scoundrel.
I'm going to go, I'm going to goa.
OK, I'll. Do the He saw an octopus for the
first. Time.
That was really funny. I'm gonna do D.
He plagiarized stuff from his grandpa.

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So the answer is he tried to scam an ancient History Museum.
So Lovecraft was a bit of a scout.
Tool. So he tried to scam them and it
didn't work. And he was like, well now I
gotta, I have to back up. I have to have evidence to.
Write a book about it. Well, no.
The incident inspired details inthe story.

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So he dreamt of like a relief sculpture, which is like a kind
of sculpture that's like set onto a flat plate that you can
put in a wall, like a mosaic almost.
And he crudely carved it out of clay and then tried to sell it
to a curator at his local antiquity museum in Providence,
RI, saying, Why do you say that?This thing is new?
The dreams of men are older thanbrooding Egypt or the

(46:56):
contemplative sphinx or garden girdled Babylon.
And this was fashioned in my dreams.
The curator obviously refused. And a similar sculpture is
featured in the first scene of The Call of Cthulhu and in some
other short stories he wrote surrounding Cthulhu mythos.
So B&C were made-up and D could have happened because his
grandpa did tell him a lot of major stories and the story was

(47:19):
also inspired by the lost city of Atlantis.
But that specific series of events didn't happen.
He tried to scam an ancient History Museum.
That's really. Fun.
Little do our contestants know that this was the fake answer.
Looks like they were fooled thistime.
What a scoundrel questions. Not.

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The Bloop was the given name of a mysterious sound recording
taken by deep ocean researchers in the South Pacific in the late
90s. I will play that sound for you
now. In the South Pacific.
Yeah, South Pacific. So that's the bloop.

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The sound was extremely loud andwas picked up by multiple
hydrophones, which are underwater microphones over 3000
kilometers apart from each other, with multiple instances
of the sound being recorded. The researchers had never heard
anything like this and didn't know what the sound source of
the sound was. There are hundreds of videos on
YouTube that have titles like Top 10 Most Unexplained Sounds

(48:24):
or Top 15 Deep Ocean Mysteries that a young and impressionable
Steven watched. But the source of the bloop was
discovered around 10 years later, meaning all those people
making those videos either neverbothered to look up the answer
or were lying. What was the bloop actually?
A. A large underwater earthquake
between the Scotia Plate and theAntarctic plate.

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B An explosive underwater volcanic eruption near the
northern tip of Antarctica. CA.
Then, unknown to science, species of rare Southern Ocean
whale or D icebergs breaking away from a large Antarctic
glacier. What was the source of the
bloop? Which one of those makes bloop D

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okay under volcanoes? What year did you say this was?
This was did I specify here. This was like AI don't know if
you did mid 90s it was like late90s did.
You got discovered late 90s or got discovered.
Like this sound was recorded late 90s and then they
discovered it in the 2000s. Whales.
Rare whale and then. Remember, this was in the South

(49:29):
Pacific, not by whale. That's the other side, my
friend. Aiden Oh, I said.
Volcanoes. OK, volcanoes, Cameron, you
would be correct. It was icebergs breaking away
from a large Antarctic glacier. Cameras on a roll.
I was just imagining just the sound of like dropping an ice
cube into a. Glass of water glide 100 really

(49:49):
big and it. Was just really loud.
Yeah, it was just super loud andthey had never heard it.
So this is also known as an ice cream.
So. And these are becoming more
common as the Earth heats up andglaciers continue to melt.
Thanks a lot of climate change. Yeah.
Thanks for that. Yeah, it it's like, have those
people who like, couldn't figureit out never taken a shit?
That's the sound your poop makeswhen it hits the water.

(50:11):
Sometimes I could have guessed that, of course, but if the poop
was ice, that would make sense. So the scientists were studying
underwater volcanoes when they recorded that sound.
So that's where that one came from.
And the unknown to science whalewas a common theory as to what
the source could be during that 10 year window that they didn't
know going. Out true theory though.

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Well we don't know if there could be an unknown designs
whale making that exact noise. Question 10.
This is the SpongeBob question in the season 1 episode Arg Rock
Bottom. SpongeBob and Patrick
accidentally take the wrong bus home from Golf World.
Bottom. And end up in the titular rock
bottom. Patrick is able to get on the

(50:53):
first bus back to Bikini Bottom,but SpongeBob isn't Charlie
Chaplin rules. How is SpongeBob able to get
home? And be sure to speak in the
correct accent. Yeah, Aiden.
Steven, are you aware that Alec and I used to have a podcast
called Rock Bottom? I didn't know this, I didn't do
my research. Are we really talking?

(51:14):
About Alec and I's first podcasttogether with Ross.
I can't understand your accent. Yeah, I'll answer the question.
Go ahead, Cooper. SpongeBob was wearing glove
paraphernalia that another guy blew up so he could float back

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to the top. OK, Aiden.
Well, Cameron. Got it.
I hate how much SpongeBob shows up on this podcast.
Well, I'm doing fucking episodes.
I agree with exactly what Coopersaid.
OK, original much? Back to the surface.

(52:01):
You have to be a little different.
Just agree. Just agree.
I concur. You can't all just agree that
it's not Charlie Chaplin rules, because then you're all correct
and no one gets the points don'tgive.
Me points give camera to Cooper points because they actually
know SpongeBob. OK, camera to Cooper.
You both get a points. You were pretty much on the

(52:21):
nose. A friendly angler slash angler
fish slash Luth's jaw because itproduces red light.
Finds Spongebob's glove world balloon.
So he finds Spongebob's glove world balloon, which if you
watch the episode like flies away and then that guy chases it
down. Spongebob's pissed at him, then
he returns it to him, and then he inflates that which arises

(52:43):
him in Out of the Abyss. So.
And then all I wrote for the description here is rock bottom
is Silent Hill and SpongeBob must atone for his sins.
Wow. Jesus, that's all I wrote.
Did you say 1 per Cameron eye ordo we each get the two points?
I'm gonna say one you're gonna split, we're gonna do a quick
point check. I have two.

(53:05):
Deep coin deep Ocean coins deep.Ocean Coin 4 Deep Ocean.
Coin. Cameron.
I've got eight points. Yeah, Cameron was on a run this
episode. Or rather than this.
One live in line three he. Can lose three win challenge.
With one and so you made sense. Yeah, and he was snarky about
it, too. He was like, oh, I guess I've

(53:26):
lost already, He said. Something along those lines.
Tom, remember? How snarky I.
Famously come back at the end ofround two in the beginning of
round 3. Mr. Snark's A.
Lot well kissy about. You all sound like CNFOS chief.
No fun officers. This sucks.
OK, Aiden. Cooper.

(53:48):
This is bad. Audio We.
Can just kill her here, all right?
Thanks for joining us this week.We're not doing the third round,
Aiden Cooper. Just say the magic words.
I come alive in Round 3. Round 3 is where I go alive.
Round 3 is where I come alive, and round 3 is titled The

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Denizens of the Deep. Whoa.
Question 11 A whale fall is pretty much exactly what it
sounds like. When a whale dies, it's quartz
sinks to the bottom of the ocean, and then seemingly barren
ocean floor comes alive with allsorts of organisms coming to
feed and sustaining its own ecosystem for decades.

(54:35):
Which of the following organismsare not associated with whale
fall events? Not whales, hagfishes, B
lockjaws, C heel pouts, D sleeper sharks, or E deep sea
octopi. No one likes it when I bring out
E. Yeah, I may be nervous.

(54:56):
I'm gonna say not BE what are. Octopi doing around there.
I'm gonna say deep sea octopi. OK, Cooper.
What was B again? Lockjaws.
I'll see Lockjaw. OK, Cameron.
I'm also gonna say lockjaw, actually.
Wow. All right, well congratulations,
you both get 3 deep ocean coins because I made-up lock jaws.

(55:16):
They don't exist. Hackfishes and sleeper sharks
are associated. They don't waste.
Did we not talk about lock jaws earlier?
This. We talked about loose jaws.
Yeah, see, that's what. Can we challenge this one?

(55:37):
Can we can challenge? And some some whoa.
Steven, you have to say challenger deeper else can't
challenge it. Challenger.
Deep on the Challenger. Deep they don't exist.
Hagfishes and sleeper sharks areassociated with the first stage
of decomposition, so they eat the carcass while it still has
meat and flesh on it. Hagfish are jawless fish.
They don't have jaws or those upto go ahead.

(55:58):
Look up hagfish. I really like hagfish.
I don't want to. They look, they seem scary.
No jaw, no jaw. Oh, that's worse.
That's actually worse than the rest of them, I think.
They're cute. They look.
They tie themselves into long, they tie their long eel like
bodies into knots to gain leverage and they use that to
pull chunks of flesh off the whales because they don't have

(56:20):
jaws. And then eel pouts and deep sea
octopi are associated with the second stage of decomposition
where they're basically just picking off all the leftover
scraps. The third stage is when the
bacteria start to break down thebones, and this can take like 50
years. And then the final stage is when
all the organic matter is gone and only the inorganic minerals
remain. And this is just a good habitat

(56:42):
for filter feeders to kind of chill.
Good chill place. So good chill hang for filter.
Feeders. It's chill when a whale dies.
They feed deep ocean organisms for years, so shout out to them.
For your. Sacrifice.
Thank you whales Question 12 On the subject of whales.
Sperm whales are known for theirlegendary and one sided battles
with giant squid and colossal squid, which is their primary

(57:05):
source of food. We've never seen sperm whales
hunt for these organisms before,but you can see the scars these
battles leave on the mammals faces.
Colossal squids are among the largest invertebrates in the
world, inhabiting only the cold Southern Ocean with their bodies
being around 14 feet long and weighing over 1000 lbs.
The elusive Organism spends its entire life shrouded in almost

(57:27):
complete darkness, which is whathas led to it to develop the
largest eyes of any known Organism.
What is the diameter of the eye of the largest recovered
specimen of colossal squids? Has come up on this podcast
before. Big eye.
They have the largest eye of anyOrganism, so you should know it
then. What's the diameter?
Centimeters or inches? I'll take either.

(57:47):
I think it's about a shack. Shack, Roni.
Shack Roni people. How much I think is 16 inch OK?
I'm gonna say what's big though,whatever this.
I'm going 21 inches in diameter.Dang.
Damn. That's big.
That could be this. Is like.
It is the largest eyes of any. Nailed it.

(58:08):
I'm gonna, I'm gonna say. OK, well, Cooper got it dead on
16 inches. Actually.
Insane, are you? Kidding me?
Yes, is the size of a 16 inches.Hey.
Holy shit. I gotta get an extra bonus deep.

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Don't. Don't give an extra point.
For that. I can't order you to share an
extra and I also didn't write anything for the rest of this
question, so I guess we're just moving directly on to Question
13. What a crazy way to end that
one. Well, here's Steven.
I have a cool fun fact. But didn't we first discover the
existence of the giant squid because it left injuries on

(58:49):
sperm whales? Yeah.
And we've also, we were finding them in the stomachs of sperm
whales before we were finding them in the ocean.
It was specifically the beaks they were finding though, right?
I believe so. That's cool.
OK, question 13. Another source of food at the
bottom of the ocean is that weird exception biology teachers
have to talk about when they bring up the base of the food

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chain. While nearly all caloric energy
on Earth first comes from photosynthesis, the exception is
chemosynthesis. This process turns inorganic
compounds into organic compounds, which is AKA energy.
Which of the following is not a place where these organisms
appear? A black smokers, B cold seeps, C

(59:30):
goo lagoons or D oil wells. I got dude, I got to go.
I got to go black. These are all the names of
locations I got to go black. I got to go, black smokers.
OK, this is which is not, yeah, not a place where these
organisms not. Lagoon I'm.

(59:50):
Gonna say whatever the cold thing.
Dude. Aiden.
In case you don't know, Goo Lagoon is in SpongeBob.
That's true. Aiden, have you never seen It's
Gotta Be Real. Right.
The lagoon has to be real. I can't, I actually can't handle
the amount of the SpongeBob thathas.
No, I didn't watch SpongeBob Cameron.
Did your mom not let you? I was not.

(01:00:12):
You didn't watch? SpongeBob SpongeBob as a child.
He wasn't allowed to. You were one of those kids.
And look how I turned down. They have just as fucking fucked
up as the rest. Of the garden, right?
The same? Well, if you watch SpongeBob,
you might know the answer to this question.
So which of the following is a place where they don't appear?
I'll say oil wells, OK. I feel like to get to get energy

(01:00:32):
out of that, it's like combustion.
And then Cooper, what did you answer?
Wait, wait, hold on. I need to soak in what you just
said. If we watch SpongeBob, we might
know the answer to this. I don't know, maybe or maybe
not. Wow, that was such a.
Just OK. To be honest, I only said that
to taunt Aiden. OK, OK, OK, then.
I'm gonna stick with cold seeps.OK, the answer is oil wells.

(01:00:56):
Aiden, you get the deep ocean coins.
Let's go. Fuck you, SpongeBob.
Yeah, I guess not watching SpongeBob didn't hurt you that
time. Are Gulagoons real then?
Yes, gulagoons are real. Please go lagoons, specifically
can. You explain to me what a black
smoker is. Yes, I'll explain all of it.
So black smokers are a type of geothermal vent that produce

(01:01:17):
black material usually because they have a ton of sulfur in
them. So chemosynthetic bacteria live
there in symbiosis with tube worms, which are like these
large, extremely durable worm like organisms.
They're not creepy. They look like plants.
It's kind of bizarre. Cold seeps are areas where
hydrocarbons and methane leak into the water, which
chemosynthetic organisms love. These cold seeps often form

(01:01:39):
brine pools, which are also referred to as goo lagoons.
So there you go. And then oil wells are just
areas underground where people drove for oil.
Gallon. After I say Challenger D.
No, you don't. I no.
You have to say Challenger D. I'm reasonably confident, OK,
that the geothermal vents that output the minerals are white

(01:02:04):
when they're expounding out where all yeah, I'm, I'm almost
certainly 50% sure assured of that.
OK, so you think black smokers was a red herring and white
smokers is the real answer? No, I'm not necessarily white
smoking. OK, You're just challenging the
question. Well, Cameron, that's incorrect.

(01:02:24):
Oil wells do not contain chemosynthetic bacteria just
like that and white smokers challenge.
Questions slipped us by. Yep.
OK. What do you got it?
Well, that's it guys. Yes, that's it.
Guys. See you guys next time, guys.
This sucks. This sucks.
Let's just let's just finish theepisode guys.
I I this. Sucks Damn it, this sucks.

(01:02:46):
Let's. Try no.
One even done the challenge. No one's.
Got the challenge? I.
Guess we have to finish the. Episode.
Oh gosh, whatever. So I will say white smokers are
a real thing. And it's when instead of
releasing sulfur, they release like silicon.
And normally black smokers become white smokers when
they're about to die. And they do have a different
community of organisms that livein them.
I mean, have you ever seen the black lung of the smoker?

(01:03:07):
All right. Next question.
We're moving on to question 14. The oarfish is a large and
extremely long pelagic, meaning open water fish that lives in
nearly every ocean reaching up to 55 feet long, and is rarely
seen by. Caught it in Animal Crossing.
You've caught it in Animal Crossing.
This is where. Cooper knows all this fish.

(01:03:29):
When it is seen, it is often interpreted as bad news.
The oarfish is believed to be one of the sources of sea
serpents and sea monster myths, and they are considered
harbingers of doom in Japanese folklore.
So maybe you know this from Animal Crossing.
What natural disaster are orefish considered to bring in

(01:03:49):
Japanese folklore? Cooper's Island was wiped out by
a tsunami after. A days later tsunamis B
earthquakes C hurricanes or D trouts tsunami OK Cooper or
camera. So hurricane slash typhoon.
Yeah, that's I was. On the.

(01:04:11):
Same. Wave like.
Thing. Yeah, same thing.
You got them. You got them, Cameron.
You got them, you got them. Too bad you used your challenge.
One question to go Cameron. Nice.
And I'm trying to think of the Pokémon.
There's a video, there's a Pokémon that's an Orifish.
I'm trying to think of what it says.
OK. That is an earthquake.

(01:04:36):
Here comes the hurricane, if we.Can learn earthquake that
actually be pretty cool. Yeah, I think it's, I think it's
earthquakes. Cameron That's correct.
So whoa, earthquakes. Now earthquakes do 'cause
tsunamis, but in Japanese folklore they are just believed
to bring earthquakes. So they are called the
messengers from the Sea God's Palace in Japanese folklore,

(01:05:00):
which is a crazy name. And then after the 20.
The messenger's coming, so. After the 2011 Tohoku earthquake
and tsunami, which killed over 20,000 people, many in Japan
pointed to the 20 oarfish washedup on the country's beaches in
2009 and 2010 as a warning sign that shouldn't have been
ignored. But a scientific study in 2019

(01:05:21):
concluded there's no correlationbetween the beachings and
earthquakes. That's what big science wants.
How do they know? Yeah, I guess they talked to the
sea. God.
They haven't spoken to the sea God I.
Don't think so. That wasn't.
In the papers. And they're ignored messengers.
Yeah, they. Died to send a message.
The hubris of. Man, we didn't even receive the.
Message deep ocean. The.

(01:05:45):
Hubris, man. See.
That should have been a bounce. Man, if you do end up.
Seeing an oar fish in extremely shallow waters, or any other
deep sea Organism for that matter, it's likely because
they're dying. So.
Oh, that's not good. Sorry.
Are we ready to move on to question 15?
Yep. Yes, the final.
Question. The final question.
Question. 15 Taco Bell. Or what is it?
Is it like the I can't think. It's like a deep reverberant

(01:06:08):
Taco Bell bog. Thank.
You thank you for that sound effect.
One observed phenomenon with the.
Deep ocean is that deep sea organisms are much larger than
their shallow water counterparts.
This is called deep sea gigantism.
I've already given the example of the giant squid, but there
exists giant isopods, giant jellyfish or fishes, giant

(01:06:28):
crabs, octopi and giant Stingrays.
But why does this occur? A to withstand the intense
underwater pressure. B Deep sea creatures have less
competition and expend less energy, so they grow larger.
C the cold water gives them longer life spans, allowing them
to reach larger sizes. D cold water diffuses more

(01:06:50):
oxygen, which allows them to grow quicker and larger.
Or E no one knows. I love a good nobody knows.
It's a thriller. It's it's E No one knows.
I feel like it's not like they just.
Envy didn't make sense to me. I'll do the.
Oxygen diffuses better. That's a cool because that's

(01:07:11):
what they say made big animals in the.
Past. Because we had higher
concentration of oxygen in the atmosphere, it could breathe
more and so it's if. I'm ignoring the live longer
one. It's pressure and less
competition. Yep, I'm going to say pressure
in that case. OK, the answer is no one knows.

(01:07:31):
Wow, so unfortunately not a lot of research has been.
Done on the Deep. Ocean, despite the majority of
the Earth's inhabitable land forbiological life being in the
deep ocean. Are those all just theorized
then? Like those are, yeah.
So all those four other ones areproposed.
Reasons as to why this may occur, but none of them apply to
all of the organisms I listed. Yeah, I was going to say like

(01:07:53):
there are plenty of very tiny organisms that.
Leave in the live in the deep ocean.
Yeah. So for right now it's a mystery,
but it wouldn't surprise me if. The answer?
Baby giant squid. It wouldn't be like, not giant.
Right. Yeah, dude, what, Like the giant
squid's not giant? Because it's.
Old. It's like.
A giant squid no matter. Well, OK, so generally fish as

(01:08:14):
they live longer. They do just continue to grow
like they don't have a limit to their growth, especially if they
don't have competition for theirresources.
So that is like a possible. You ever seen a catfish?
You ever seen a video of someone?
Noodling. Well, what for big old catfish?
What are you asking me? Have you never heard of
noodling? Editor put footage.
Of people noodling on Let's justfinish this.

(01:08:37):
This is directly a fish. This is fish.
Let's wrap this up. Steven, I agree.
So let's do a. Deep ocean coin.
Check how many coins you holding. 10?
Five, Cameron. I got 14.
Oh, I lost. So let's go over the.
Challenge question. But no one can challenge SO.
I'm just gonna share it. The challenge question was the

(01:08:59):
Call of Cthulhu one. The real answer is that he had a
dream that he tried to scam an antiquity museum doing the so
much funnier. He had a dream that he had a
dream. That he had to sell.
Yes, it was Dreamception and he put this in his.

(01:09:19):
Book they're older than die Lovecraft was a.
Fucking. Strange dude.
He was a character. What a scoundrel he was like he
had a premonition. He was like, that's this is a
good. One, I gotta put this in the
book. There were so many more
questions. I was.
Like that's gotta. Be a challenge question.
That was not the one. I do not think that was one of
them. The Deep.

(01:09:39):
Ocean is just freaking crazy crazy.
Hey, Cameron, you know this has been a long time coming.
After you. Finally got your fish related
when after your. Big failure after your big
breakdown. On the fish, absolute failure.
Finally on the up again. So you finally.
See on the all right, I don't like the.

(01:10:00):
Energy. That you guys are bringing
you're. Being real right now, we're just
so happy the. CSO chief sticker officer.
Chief Fish officer. Now to you guys.
No, no, you're deep. You're you're chief deep.
Ocean Officer, Thank you. I'm the.
I'm still the fish. Guy, I'm the chief D.
OO. Sea Doo so.

(01:10:21):
Congratulations, Cameron, You'reyou will be.
The most? Respected guest at the Monterey
Bay Aquarium. What will you do with your power
when we arrive? I'm I'm.
Hey everybody go out and buy a deep.
Fish coin Yeah, please, please buy if you.
Could do it. I'm you could do it.
In the next like 3. Days or so that.
'D be great. Limited option, limited time

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