May 1, 2025 • 56 mins
This week, we're listening back to a classic... it's episode 032 - Trolleys! This goofy episode included several silly Trolley Problem scenarios, but it was also the first episode to unearth a mysterious, otherworldly creature... a creature known only as Star King.
Join us as we return to the source...
Egads! We've got a runaway Bus One and a surprising cast of characters directly in our path! Aidan hosts Alec, Dante, and Logan as they are forced to look deep within themselves to determine the proper course of action in various iterations of the infamous Trolley Problem.
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The time is nearing. Who?
Are. You I am gaining strength,
strength, strength, strength. Starkey, I thought Aiden came up
with you for that. Dumb trolleys, Zeppy.
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Sit trolleys, Zeppy. Sit trolleys.
Soon I will be ready to face them myself.
Self self, self, self, self. It's a trolleys rerun.
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Welcome aboard Bus 1. We're on our way to San
Francisco, CA, and we've got some time to kill gamers.
Introduce yourselves. Hello, I am Alex.
Brother, this guy stinks. Hello, I am Dante.
You can't refuse. Hello, I am Logan and it's time
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to play some trivia too, right? Yeah, hi, Hello, and welcome.
We're going to play some trivia.If you're new to this and didn't
know what's going on, that's what's happening.
Also, if you're new to this and didn't know what's going on,
rules, we got them. Here they are #1 no Googling.
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I always got to put it first because of John.
He's not playing. New rule.
New rule just drops. I just like calling out John
every episode, so no Googling John.
There are three levels, 5 questions per level, so that's
like 15 questions total. Level one has one point per
correct answer, level 2 has two points per correct answer, and
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Level 3, you guessed it, has four points per.
Just kidding, it's 3 three points per correct.
Threw me off. Imagine we will be using a
buzzer for this game, so it's buzzing in to get the answer.
There is the challenge rule. So once per game I'll give a
fake answer to a question if youcorrectly call me out on it.
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You get three extra points if you don't.
I love the little :) thumb. Bring it back.
To the smiley thumb smiley. Thumb.
It immediately comes. It immediately falls off from my
sweaty fingers. Sam had a smiley thumb I think
in the Apple episode. I don't know.
It's purely. It's purely for us.
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I'm drawing a smiley thumb now. It's.
Basically, yeah, don't challengewrong or else you lose 3 points.
That all had to say. Oh, he's kind of tiny, but there
you could kind of see him. Yeah, he is.
And then yeah, most points wins opposite of goal.
This is already started a lot of.
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Purely comedy happening right now, yeah.
Before we go, do you guys want to guess what the category is?
We're going to San Francisco, right?
Yeah, we're going to San Francisco.
Broccoli. Good guess not.
Broccoli. Good guess.
Don't patronize him. They do.
Bro Gas, thanks inside out. OK, wait.
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San Francisco. 15 questions about broccoli.
I I did, and then I had to scraphim because Cooper told me he
was already working. I'm.
Like are you kidding me? This.
Sucks on the broccoli episode so.
What happens in San Francisco? Architecture, bridges and stuff.
Oh no. Closer.
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Closer than broccoli. Legal nudity.
Oh, is is it? Yeah, Ant man.
Ant man. No, it's that's right.
You all got it. The category is trolleys.
Trolleys definitely not similar to trains.
Are we doing 15? Trolley problems starting off
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with round one, Question one thethe world's first trolleys were
powered by what? Alec buzzed him first.
Horses. Oh Ding, Ding, Ding, that's one
point to you. OK, wait, how are we defining
powered? I would say they were bull.
So the the world's first passenger tram was founded by
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the Mumbles Railway Act, but with the British Parliament and
that's the first horse drawn passenger tram system.
So and then that slowly moved tosteam power and then now it's
electric. So more you know, it's electric.
The first thing that came to my mind was magic.
Magic wizardry every. Craft.
Every trolley had a wizard inside, you know.
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OK, so yeah, moving on Question 2.
What is the difference between atram and a trolley, Dante?
I buzzed in without having an idea so I'm going to make one
up. I would say a tram has hang.
On. Hang on.
Before you answer, do do you guys see that in front of us?
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Is that no? Is that a group of five people
on the road? Hang on, let.
Me try to hit the brakes. Let me try to hit the brakes on
this bus. Let me try to hit the brakes on
this bus. Oh shoot guys, the brakes
failed. Site.
Luckily, a choice. Luckily, there's an exit.
Luckily, there's an exit. Are we on a?
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Bus If only one of us can grab the wheel of the bus and swerve
to the next Rd. we could probably avoid these five
people. But Oh no.
Aren't you driving? There's a singular innocent on
the other Rd. What are what are we gonna do?
What are we gonna do? Singular.
Wait, so do who decides the fiveand 1st?
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Guilty. I think if.
There actually was a trolley problem.
The conductor or the driver or whatever would put it to a
democratic vote first. I think he would act off of
instinct. All I'm saying, all I'm saying
is there's, there's three of you, like two people pulling one
way would probably balance out. So it's the democratic way
we're. All grabbing the wheel.
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I would grab, I would grab the wheel and turn it.
Which way though? Well.
If you do, If you do nothing. If you do nothing technically,
did you really kill the five people?
Can I, can I please ask, are we on a bus or a trolley?
Are there tracks? So we're on a bus.
Just yes, we're on a bus or there's tracks.
The other way, there's track. OK, there's tracks.
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Bus is on tracks. It's on our turn.
We can't off road because then I'm going to.
Turn it off the damages. Me and Logan are turning it,
therefore it turns no matter what Alec wants.
To do well. Are the five people guilty or
innocent? You didn't say.
The bus turn the bus bam right into that one innocent.
Person win some, you lose some, you know.
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That was baby Gandhi. Wait, are the people like
points? Should we have come with the
five points? It is.
It is your kill counter so I am tracking that.
Oh, well, I mean, you hit the one guy, but here we are.
There's there's five more peoplein.
Front, damn it, hang on, the difference between a tram and a?
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Question is this question 3? By the way, there's five more
people in front of the Buzz you could swerve, but what's that?
You each see your own individualmother in the exit way.
Wait as in like the one person I'm like hey.
What's? My mom.
And then that's your mom. That's my mom.
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That's my mom. And.
Then they're like. What is your individual?
Do we have the same mom? We're all long lost, brothers.
Are. We is this the that one mirror
in Harry Potter that just shows you your greatest desire, but
it's just shows you your mom it?Shows you your are you?
Saying your greatest desire is your mom.
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Your mom. I mean, probably on some level,
you know, think about it. I don't think I want.
Freud. Freud would love that.
Freud ever messed with the trolley problem?
I think I would have a lot harder time killing my.
Mom, I would hope. She's kind.
Of guilty or innocent. There are five random strangers.
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Honestly if you had to look at him, probably around 38.1 years
old collectively. I mean.
We're. All guilty of something.
That's what I'm saying. Even my mom.
Even your mom, though not. My mom.
Not, not my mom. Not my mom.
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I would probably, I would probably do nothing and not turn
toward. I think it would be hard to turn
towards my mom, but I wouldn't feel guilty about letting it
just sit there. I'd be like, oh, sorry.
Yeah, I I agree. So I will.
I will not turn the wheel. I think that'd be I I don't.
Think I want. That to be my answer, but I
think realistically that's my answer.
I think in no scenario would I turn the wheel because that
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that's that means you are choosing to you know?
What if? One, wait for round 3.
What if? What if there are no people on
the other track? It's like, no.
Maybe that scenario? What if it was it delayed like
an arrival time? Who knows?
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But but you'll be late. You guys don't do anything as,
as we we ram into those five people, Dante's like, sorry,
you're. Sorry, not Yeah, I don't know.
It's my voice that high, yeah. Who was getting points?
You you got one for the first. I think my mom got.
What? Alec, you got the first question
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for Alec. Got one point.
No. Other.
Point and you've killed a total of 6 people.
What about the difference between a tram and a trolley?
Can I actually say what my guessis for that because I have AI
came up with what I thought is the right answer.
Is there a difference? My guess is that a tram has.
A. My My guess is that a.
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Tram but ram is on a fixed like a fixed line, like it only goes
from point A to point B back andforth and a trolley has like
tracks where it goes in full round you know.
I think they're the same. I was going to say one goes both
directions and the other can only.
Go 1 you. Know, I think a tram because I
feel like trams are the thing always at like mountains where
they're like, you could just take the tram up to the top and
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it like goes back, that's the tram, you know?
Yeah, but a trolley is like woo going all over multiple stops.
Yeah, trolleys, there are no rules.
Trams can go up and down. Oh, maybe that's it.
It's about elevation change. Well, but the trolleys are in
San Francisco. So hilly, so much elevation.
Change. This is all speculation the San
Francisco. It's truly.
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Trans Sam Rickard would probablyknow the answer to this, yeah.
Hello, hello, can you hear me? Yes, it's me again, the fact
checker. I just had something to clear up
the confusion. While some may try to lip pick
differences between trams and trolleys, the 2 words typically
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refer to the same form of frail transportation in urban areas.
Trolley is simply the preferred term in North America, while
tram is used elsewhere. I hope this helps.
OK. Bye, all righty.
Question 4. So now, now you got 7 people in
front of you, but you notice in the back of in bus 1, there's a
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rather large passenger sitting here, so you can push him in the
way and slow down the bus enoughto get those seven people out.
Are you pushing him? Wait, wait, can't wait.
Can you explain the physics of there's a passenger on the bus?
We're bowling. Yeah, you you'd push him out in
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on the front and then the bus would roll over him, slowing the
bus. Down, out onto the front of the
bus. We're gonna bust him through
the. Windshield.
I don't know. You'll figure it.
Out that's so violent can we askthe the passenger if they if
they would be OK with? That with that, no, he's asleep
actually. What if they're asleep?
Excuse me Sir, I don't think realistically I have the
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physical strength to lift any person long enough to slow down
a trolley because I am a small weak boy.
We're on a bus. It's yeah, it's a runaway bus.
Oh, sorry either way. The the bus one problem if you.
I think, I think in this scenario I would only not do it
because in my mind there is no guaranteeing that I'm not just
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adding one. I wouldn't think, Oh yeah, this
is the only thing we can do. Why did you up it to seven
people for this? 1 Did you think a little more?
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Like 5. Ohh yeah I could probably 7, I
don't know. I don't know you.
Can't, can't be comfortable. You never know how many people
are gonna be in the front of your runaway bus.
Again, I'd probably do nothing in this scenario.
Yeah, I think I'm also doing nothing.
I'm definitely not going to actively toss a person.
From this. Podcast are.
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You guys seeing Dante's? Show.
You are all frozen, I was thinking.
Dante has like a weird green screen glitch right going on
right now where there's a purpleDante here and a purple Dante
too is like left and right like the devil and Angel Dante's on
his shoulder. It reminds me of Patrick Starr,
'cause he's like a green pants. I just took a screen cab for.
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Costume. Yeah, I'm doing that too.
What happened to Dante? Are you with us?
He was the passive. Yeah, we pushed him all over.
We pushed Dante into the. Listeners at home.
Dante is 750 lbs. Of muscle.
Of muscle so. A few moments later.
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Anyway, sorry y'all, where were we?
Did we kill that large human? I don't know.
We're waiting on you. I I would not I would not kill
large human. We're all in agreement, OK?
So that's 7 seven more people that the bus, the runaway bus
tears through, but at least the sleeping passenger in the back
is. Wait, wait.
He was. Sleeping where?
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Yeah. Where is our are we like going
down a mountain? Like how are we not run out of
momentum yet? The.
Horses are so strong. The horses are just not giving
up. San Francisco is a lot of horses
are trampling all these. Guys correct.
All these pedestrians. Yeah, we're we're on a horse.
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Bus The first buses were actually horse bus back in the
day. They had the the first newspaper
trivia column was the horse drawn Bus 1.
True. When you said horse bus, I
definitely imagined a bus. Four horses.
Those I've, I've seen those, yeah, those houses.
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All righty, Question five. Oh my God, we're rocking with
five people. Yeah, five people over the bus
are. There not points?
Are we just killing people? Is that what?
No, no, Alec got a point. Alec got that one point.
One of my challenging. Up to you.
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He's not mom, not my mom. That was my mom.
OK, we're rocking with five people again.
Five people dead ahead. Divert, wait.
If they're dead, I'm definitely not doing anything because
they're already. Dead.
Alive ahead, divert the bus, butyou hit your life savings.
That doesn't exist, so definitely divert the blocks
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like. In the cloud, it hits cloud.
Blockchain servers all of your crypto investments.
I definitely divert. If you if you asked me in 20
years, this might be a harder question, but right now there's
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not much. You're going to let 5 people
die? No, no, no.
I think in 20 years it'd be a more difficult question because
I would have a life savings. OK.
But for now. Logan's saying for now he values
life. More than life, right For 20
years well corrupted Logan. Yes.
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I do nothing again. What?
But but it's democratic, so we saved it.
You you do nothing. Again, I'm gonna lock in doing
nothing. He values consistency, overall
life. At this.
Point It's the horse's fault if we kill anyone else.
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Wow. OK, so hitting the life savings,
human wealth higher than or human life higher than wealth
for now. For now.
For now. Nice.
Well, that's it for round one. Score check it.
Score check it. OK, so I have one.
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I have 0 but I think I murdered a lot of people.
Yeah, I have. That's what counts.
Yeah, maybe. Alec, you've killed 12 people,
and Logan and Dante have killed 13.
Oh, we are keeping individual tallies of our kill counts.
Oh yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm keeping. So Mom counts.
Does not what you've decided like what actually the majority
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decides, but then you get kill counts based on if you were in
the majority. Do I?
Maybe the real points was the folks we killed along the way.
Maybe are? You trying to make this into it
like the moral of the story? Maybe the whole time the points
were the bodies all along. It's really morbid if you think
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about the fact that we're just running over people with the bus
and not an ethical thought experiment.
Let's go on to round. Two, let's go.
Can we get on a trolley? Just to help my brain.
Yeah, OK. Pulling the bus over for a
second, it's still the brakes still don't work.
We pulled over. I'm switching on to the track
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that has a trolley on it. Trolley won.
But it's still a horse trolley. Still a horse trolley.
We like moved all the bridles, we like unhooked all of them
individually and like moved. Them, we got that.
We got their feedback. We're on a trolley now.
Bag everyone. Everyone now get their bags from
luggage baggage claim before getting on there connecting grab
trolley. Bags.
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I gave them my. I gave Tom Banks my ticket.
And he snipped. Believe he snipped AB and an E
into it all wicked. Fast.
He skipped like 5 people on one track and one person on another.
What does it mean? There's hot chocolate inside,
too. Yeah, OK, Round two, this is
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just, we're gonna, we're gonna get a little more.
This was before this was a little classic trolley problem.
Now let's let's get into some some real thinkers, shall we?
OK. Question Six.
Wait, you're so we're on the trolley now, right?
Thank goodness. Down the track you see five
people actively robbing a bank. Oh, like you're guilty.
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Like Wild West style. Like, you know, Muppets like,
have a lag. With a money sign on, right?
Yeah, yeah. And they're like doing this
little run out of the bank. You can divert the trolley, pull
a lever, but you'd hit one innocent person.
This is This is a oh really? I also do nothing honestly.
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Not that I not that I think committing a crime is worthy of
the death penalty. That's where.
That's where I'm. But I, I am.
I am simply on a runaway trolley.
I'm not the gonna be the executioner here to decide who
gets to die, but. You're not gonna try to minimize
all possible deaths that may occur if there's a crowd of
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people in front of you, like a million people.
A million. It would slow down eventually.
Not if the brakes. Wow.
Are you saying we should assume no friction?
Assume no friction, no air resistance, spherical bus.
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The only thing that can slow down the trolley is by pushing a
large sleep band. That's the only thing that can
slow down the only. Thing that can slow.
Actively. Robbing a bank boy.
You're doing nothing. I feel like boy this is a
toughy. In these scenarios, I'm not
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going to, I'm not going off of like, if I think about it for a
long time, like what? What do I think is the correct
choice? I'm going off of like, if I'm in
there in that moment, like what would my brain like
instantaneously decide? Oh, OK, I like this.
In which case, yeah, if I see five people.
I'm gonna like, oh. 'Cause I might not even know if
there's one person. Oh, you're gonna leave it?
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Yeah, well, if they're actively like robbing a bank or
something, I'd be like. What have the money you're
doing? There's a big money son.
Are they pointing guns at me? They're like, am I?
Like shooting their name in the wall with bullets or whatever.
OK, then I think I would leave. It all right?
No, that's. What it feels like I'm.
Doing a survey to Logan's point,I would probably do nothing in
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real life. Like if I had like a split
moment to like analyze, like who?
Wait, who are they? Is that a giant bag of muggy?
And and then why do we do nothing?
Nothing. OK, you.
Guys also do nothing. Right through the five people
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robbing the bank. Yeah.
Yeah, right. Right through.
Them now now question 71 innocent person on the track.
OK. On the other track, esteemed
actor and late night host James Corden, OH.
Kill him, kill him, kill James Corden.
You. Yeah.
Do you divert to James Corden, or do you let the one average
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man? Yeah, make this decision way
easier if he was dressed up likea cat.
Or he's just not. He's just James Corden.
That's still pretty bad. I I.
Yeah, I would also turn. Wait, wait.
Sir is locked in? Is he doing one of those
crosswalk musicals? Yeah, yeah.
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Yeah, that's an easy one that should have been like.
Because he deserves it. He should have known not to be
in the cross. That's true that's true.
Honestly if if anything he had it coming right.
Like he's he's played with fate enough times that's.
Actually, the song he was doing,he was doing Chicago, Yeah.
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Yeah, I feel good about this one.
We I just want to get everyone'sopinion on James Corden really
quickly worth more or less than the average I.
Don't exactly know why I should should hate James Corden and I
just know that I. Do you know what?
That's fair. That being said, I would love to
have James Corden on the podcast.
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Yeah, that that one show that was a stepping stone to plus one
trillion. For sure.
How many latest is in front of his show?
They just keep me. More, they're like.
This is the Late Show, and this is the Late Late Show.
Ohh I didn't even think. There's a late, late, Late Show
and I'm at like, at that point, that's Carson who's.
Too late Exclamation point show who's watching?
(24:17):
It's too Late, Show. Nobody's watching just this is.
Real early show. That's the next one.
You're up already show. Go to bed the show Show with
James Corden brunch with. James Corden, he's just on 24/7.
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It's. It's just that it's just the
studio with all the Truman Shows.
Yeah, it's just the Truman Show.They just keep bringing on
special guests for him to talk to you.
And he's like, I just want to lead Question 8.
Your entire graduating class is on the track ahead of you from
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what? But high school, High school,
university, whenever. Well, those are different groups
of people. Whatever makes the moral dilemma
harder versus like a guy who youcan like, look in his eyes and
you just know he's about to solve world hunger.
Oh, oh, you just know, I don't think I.
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Would I know that guy is on? He's walking to the meeting
where he is going to solve worldhunger.
He's just. Carrying.
He's got much front in his step that you could just tell.
He's like. He's carrying, he's carrying a
huge turtle of corn. You're like, wait a minute.
Oh man. What was the first choice?
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Like my entire graduating. Classic university or entire
university so. Many.
That's thousands of people. I know I was like.
Yeah, there's no way. University.
But world hunger? How many people you're not?
Killing them if you let it happen.
You know what? I'm going to go with the world.
The the guy who looks like he's.Going to saw world hunger.
You're going to kill world. Hunger that's like back at the
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office. That's true.
There's no way. It's like a lone scientist that.
He's and I would think about allthis in a split moment to
decide. Yeah, like there's no way one
guy gets all gross. Regardless what, regardless of
what he looks like or what I think he's about to do, there's
thousands of people in front of those trolleys.
I'm definitely. I'm definitely.
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You know, I'm I'm scooching down.
In here, I'm still going to kill.
I'm still going to kill him. Who's still going to kill?
Yeah, for sure. I.
Think I would also kill the cornguy.
Unfortunate for the corn guy. OK, divert the track.
How many you know world hunger could have been solved.
Would we have gotten if we if wekilled our entire graduate in
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class? I'll never say.
I'll never say OK, I'll never say.
They'll never say. Question 9 The entire cast of
all of the High School Musical movies.
Oh man. If you let the train go or the
trolley, it would ruin any chance of a reunion because they
all be gone. That was my first thought.
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Or you could divert to an entireelementary school class this.
Is not even a well question. The cast of High School Musical
is a lot larger than the elementary school class.
And you wouldn't get a High School Musical.
Okay, recounting. Get a High School Musical.
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Who are recounting as the cast like probably not all like the
extra like danced in all of thistogether.
Anyone who they had hired to show up to a reunion of.
I think. So definitely not probably.
Gonna be like 10 people. It'll just be the stars.
It'll be whoever makes makes them money, right?
So it's only going to be the big.
Guess it won't. I bet Zac Efron's not even
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probably. Cello guy he's got.
Better things to do, yeah. Hope they're a reunion without
him. Yeah, they they do the reunion,
but like, there's always that one guy who thinks they're too
good for the reunion, so they don't show up.
Yeah. Yeah, that guy's.
You know how like but like friends reunion, Zac Efron
didn't even bother he. Wasn't even there.
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I know it's. Really ridiculous.
I'm really confused the. Whole time like where is Zac
Efron? Man, I, I, I'm sorry, Troy.
I think I would. I think I would.
I don't think I would divert this trolley, this bus, just
trolley. Honestly, would Cameron be on
that one? Because he was Troy and coach
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includes every single person played.
High School Musical character ina play or a music.
Like this Cameron invited to thereunion of high school.
I think, I think he has to be. I will definitely let the cast
of High School Musical die. I'll.
Let them go, you know? You know what they say.
If you love something, let it go.
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Yeah, let it get run over. By they had their.
Team of horses, yeah. I'm going to estimate that to 10
people, but RIP, RIP the High School Musical guests.
We're not getting a reunion if it doesn't happen.
We can always CGIM. True.
Deep fake Oliver. True.
Except for Zac Efron, because hewasn't on the back.
He wasn't originally not going to do it.
It'll be a it'll be a reunion with Zac Efron and Muppet
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versions of all these. Yo I would have watched that so
much faster than a regular High School Musical reunion.
It's like it's the actual Muppetcharacters dressed up as high
school. Like Kermit the Frog is
Gabrielle or Gabrielle I'm going.
To be honest, I have never seen any High School Musical movie.
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That's wild. I've never seen.
A. Well, you better watch High
School Musical 2 before the HighSchool Musical 2 episode.
I won't, I'll guarantee that. But you but you better.
OK. High School Musical 2 High
School. Two Dante, you better it is.
No, it's not. It is.
It also alludes to the fact thatit takes place in a post civil
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war society where secession was successful.
Please. Because Turkey.
Turkey. The line of Turkey imported from
Maine means that Maine is not a part of the same country that
Sharpay is currently resides in.Therefore.
But New Mexico wasn't a part of the Confederacy, was it?
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It's in the South. You never know, they could have
expanded. If if New Mexico could be in the
Confederacy versus the Union, they choose the Confederacy.
I know it. Albuquerque.
I know this to be true. OK, if he knows it all.
Right. I looked into Albuquerque's eyes
while it was holding a giant piece of corn.
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And I just and I just knew all. Right question 10, 10 people on
the track ahead of you, 10 average average Joes and
Jolene's versus on the other track * King, the King of the
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stars. Wait, who was who was * King?
Who's that star? King, the king of the star.
He's the king of the stars. Yeah, but like.
That. Is that is that a reference?
Is. This such a neat.
Smile. No.
It's, it's * king. It's the king of the stars.
Oh gosh, she sounds important. I'm going to leave him is.
This a bad guy from Suicide Squad?
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Is that Chris Pratt's dad from Guardians of the Galaxy?
No star, no, this is this is * King, king of the stars.
I don't know. I don't know who * King is, but
if I saw him I probably would bean awe and I would not want to
run him over with a bus. I would want to get.
Closer. Yeah, I would be like, what's
over there? Who's that?
No, because if you kill * king the stars, you become * king and
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stars. You don't know what's going to
happen with that power vacuum. Good benefits.
What are these stars going to dowithout a king?
You don't know how they're goingto react.
This is scary. I would not run over * King.
What's the alternative? 10 people, 10 people fighting. *
King * King can't die from a trolley.
Yeah, it's kind of star be fine.OK, but but Alec, you you forget
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there are no breaks. Yeah, I don't know.
I would. I would sooner kill 10 people
than God. He didn't say God * King of the.
* if * king came to. I don't know who * king is is if
it's something. I don't.
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Know I have no idea but if * king came down to me I'd be like
God I don't know who you are. What if * King King of the Stars
is just like a guy wearing like a cosplay outfit?
That's what I'm thinking. That's what I'm thinking.
Well, that changes everything. Logan just jumped to like this
must be God this is. This.
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Is based on his name. This is God.
I picture the guy with like inferior glow.
Logan never. Go to.
College around him. Walking around.
Like, is that actually Captain America?
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Like it starts bowing down to. Like a Chewbacca.
That's happened before. I will kill * King King of the
Stars. I don't know, I think I'd kill
the 10 people. So down to you, Alec.
Oh wait, are we? I thought we were starting.
Individually deciding No, all ofour hands are.
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On the wheel. Well, but then we wouldn't have
different amounts of death counts.
No, because yeah, it's only the ones that you act.
So we're all in, we're all in three separate.
Trolleys. Really.
No, it just doesn't count as your death.
Oh. Yeah, you're against.
I'm not. Your hands are clean for that
one. Got it.
All right. Your law says fair.
I don't think that's. Right through through * King
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honest with. You I think that's wrong.
It's been a while. Burgie, always.
Sans kulos. Baguette.
All right, * King on Han Han, I say this stupid bit yesterday.
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Because you're French. Yes, we wait.
Actually, yeah, Starking's gone.Oh.
Shit. I actually.
Yeah, and I and I don't honor that at all, every. 2 minutes.
I'm not lying, Yeah. Wait, can we do it?
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So that's Round 2, right? Well, yeah, but I mean, let's
just sit for a second. Like, we don't know what's going
to happen to the state of star politics, so.
Yeah, we got to know what happens.
I don't know. There are no breaks.
Let's keep going. In a star.
Break. We get around two ad breaks.
You just said there's no breaks,so.
There's no, there are no breaks.There's no breaks on this
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podcast. OK, so there there are five
people in front of you and then to switch to the other track you
have to say an ad. Oh.
Shit. Oh, he got us good.
Wait, is there anyone on the other track?
No open track. I do nothing. * Queen.
OK, I got I got an ad then this trolley journey was brought to
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you by * King King of the Stars * King King of the stars, not
God. It's actually a fast food
restaurant. OK, I still feel like I'm in
like completely in the dark. Is * King something you guys
know about that I don't? Wait, you don't wait, you don't
know what * king. OK, now.
Now you're convincing. He's like my child.
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You saved me. I did.
Didn't save. Them I tried, I was lost a
spare. Wait you have to?
Am I the only one that does an ad?
The other people just kill 5. I have one point.
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Do an ad. I didn't even add to.
If you want to, if you want to save the five people.
I want to get five more points, so I'm going to kill him.
Death is. Good.
I don't know. I think, I don't know how we
determine a winner here. So I'm just taking a shot.
It's going to be out because he's the one with points.
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This runaway trolley is brought to you by all of our moms, all
at the same time, all at once. All of our moms, all at the same
time, all at once. Great film.
They are on the other track. They're still doing well.
Can't say the same for starts. This is brought to you by Alex's
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mom, Alex's mom, Alex's deepest desire.
Love your mom. Round 3 This is you can you can
kind of feel it in the air. We're getting a little we're
getting a little fast and loose with the the rules of time and
space in this one. I was a little.
Concerned that last question, does * King come back into this?
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Who knows, only time will tell. Who's the next space?
For space. Question 11-5 people on the
track in front of you. One person you can divert to,
but all six people are reincarnated versions of you.
Oh well, probably. Oh, wait.
So it doesn't matter. No, there's 5I.
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I think I should not be duplicated as such I kill the
most possible I. There should be.
There should be. Yeah, you.
Said we're we're doing weird time.
Stuff when you when you die, youget reincarnated.
So each of these people are reincarnated version of you.
Oh. All from different points in
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time. But here together now on this.
Trolley track I would still I would still kill them.
It's beautiful. You know what if 6 reincarnated
versions of me went across the multiverse to be on this trolley
track, it must have been for a reason and I hit the five.
This. Is the way I must go.
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Yeah, I'd have a hard time comprehending what's going on
and probably just hit the five. I would hit the five.
I think it's good for plot. Yeah, agreed.
Good for plot. That would be a good plot,
right? There's still one out there.
Exactly. And then it's like he was the
only one to witness it, so then he just tries to chase me down
and kill me to avenge his own death.
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I think that's how that would goor.
Avenge his own they. All had to be there for.
You like deaths? Yeah, what if you had to run
over six people to save the world?
But when if you got confused by the wrong track, you never know.
Whoa, question 12 In front of you, you see the Christian God.
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Oh, like for real this time for.Real this time, not a cop.
Look into his. Eyes and just.
How we're back. You can you can divert the you
can divert the track and hit thefirst animal to ever walk on
land. Oh, probably not for last.
Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. I don't know, evolution or
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creationist, Yeah. OK, Jesus or God first of all.
The Christian God, so kind. Of so the the Trinity you got. 2
Trinity. You got, said the Trident I.
Said the trifecta. But I knew that was.
The Holy Tri. Baby A triple.
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This might be insensitive, I don't know.
I think Christians will be OK. They've been fine historically.
I think they'll be fine. OK, we learned anything from the
movie. God's not dead.
Is that God? He's not dead.
So I I go, I go for God's worm. Embrace his worm.
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His worms. And leave alone Tiktaalik I
think is the first to walk out. Whoa, some serious science
knowledge he. Only knows that because it ends
in Alec. Alec was the first Alec was the
first creature to walk on land and.
He's still here. I would.
I mean, in the, in the moment, I'd just be like, oh, that's
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just the little, a little guy. I'm gonna kill the little guy,
the little creature. The lizard, well, oh, that's the
other. Is this a little salamander?
What kind of time situation are we in?
Like do does this? Animal is the one that jump
starts evolution to land walkingcreatures.
You don't think you have like a brother whose legs were like
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basically the same? We could have figured it out.
What's important here is to findout which is true, evolution or
creationism, and kill the opposite, because we we doom all
of humanity by choosing the wrong one.
I think we will be fine regardless of our choice.
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We had Dante. Serious about this, Dante?
I think I have OK evolutionarily, if we kill the
first thing to walk on land, other things will probably walk
on land later. Right, that's what.
I'm saying we just might look. Will they be the same?
Yeah, I I would kill the little guy.
Can we confirm if God would die if the trolley hit God?
That's my question. One way to find out I'm going.
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To kill God, I think. It's not a good sign that our
trolley is another God. But really, and I, I, I had to
keep reminding you of this. There are no brakes.
Oh. Is there are no brakes translate
to we are an omnipotent being. No brakes.
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We pulling the ladder? What's up?
I'm going to let the trolley runinto the Christian God.
Final answer. Nope, little guy kill the little
guy. Well, but here's the thing.
If you if you're running over the little guy, you pretty much
know it's going to die. Didn't mean to rhyme, sorry, but
if you run into God, you don't know if God's going to die,
right? That's.
What I'm That's what I'm saying.So I think God's going to die
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from a trolley, unless Eden tells me verbatim that God will
die by a trolley. In In the spirit of the trolley
problem, I'm imagining this means I can kill God or the
little little dude. One of the two.
I'm going to do the little dude.Well, kill him, you guys run.
You run straight into the Christian God.
And if we're moving too fast to see what actually happens, so
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who knows? All right, no breaks.
OK, Question 13. One average human being.
You can you can divert it. It's one average human baby.
Human baby. Versus adult. 38.1 year old a
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30. 8 year old 38. .1. He's lived long enough that's
like that would be considered generous like a few 100 years
ago. I'm going to let the adult die.
I do nothing. Yeah, that's an easy one.
Baby's a lot. You would choose to hit a baby.
Who me? Yeah.
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No, no, none of us did. Oh, OK.
For some reason I thought Logan said he wanted to.
He was like, oh, I don't know. What do you think I?
Don't know you think starking isGod?
I'd be OK. Just a really convincing
cosplay. Save the baby.
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Save the. Baby baby saved Question 14
You're on on the track Towards the sun.
I've got. Just no the the.
That baby, no, we just, we just involved the baby.
Yeah, yeah. And you could divert it to a
billion lions, I think. I think the argument is the sun
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versus a trillion lions but. It's a billion lions.
But it's a billion, OK. But but it's a billion.
I would probably kill a billion lions, assuming that there's at
least two more after that. OK.
Even if there's not to kill the lions, it's.
We need some logical consistency.
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Who dies between the trolley andthe sun in the collision?
I think we die in that case. No, because then then the God
one is dumb because you said like Oh well if it's the sun
killing God versus killing a lizard, so we're killing the
sun. Yeah, OK.
Sure. So definitely.
Kill the sun, kill a billion lions.
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I don't think there's. 1 billionlives.
I would kill the lions. I mean, yeah, kill the lions for
sure. Kill the lions.
Because killing the sun implies.We're probably just pretty much
kill. The floats all of the earth too.
Like if the sun goes, we all go.Where did the billion lions come
from? Anyway, if there's a billion
lions, there's a bigger problem.The lion problems There's a
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billion lions in one location all together there's.
Lined up there in a single file line, yeah.
They're all lined up, but. We have no brakes.
It's a sign. No brakes.
OK, this is the last one. Question 15.
All of your descendants for all time are on the track in front.
OK. Wait, OK, and.
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And on the other track is the kid who will grow up to cure
cancer. You can just tell.
You know you're. My descendants for sure.
No, because this is the same argument.
What if? What if?
Somebody else, Somebody else will kill cancer.
That's not how I don't. Even think.
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I don't even think. Is the person that cure cancer
OK? OK.
Yeah, let let that person have it kill my descendants.
Like I don't even think I want the Earth to have more of my
DNA. Like I'm we're good, you know
what I mean? Like I don't think.
Dante I would love. Those having kids.
But if I never have kids, I'd belike, all right, totally fine.
What if your kid is the kid thatcures cancer?
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No, no, no. They're separate.
Those, these are mutually exclusive choices, correct?
Separate decisions. Yes.
OK, then kill all my descendants.
But your descendants? That's like an infinite number
of people. Not if I don't have kids.
Or maybe I have one? Descendants decides not to then.
OK, it's a potentially infinite number of people.
Probably not or. Probably not.
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Potentially. Probably a few.
A few. I don't, I don't think, I don't
think my bloodline's going very far.
OK, all my descendants or? Yeah, I killed a cancer kid.
He's a kid now. Does he have cancer and he cures
cancer? I don't know even more
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reasoning. Do what?
You know Alec now who's in sensitive?
Maybe he's the kid to cure cancer because we use his body
as an autopsy. It's.
His body to science. And so we're just expediting by
such an eye cure of. Cancer Bike.
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Yeah, yeah. Our.
Our. Trolley.
Has a little a little cow thing on the front of it.
That way he's safely discarded to the side.
He doesn't get under the wheels split right into.
No. So group consensus, kill the
Cancer. No, Dante wants to kill.
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His son. Kill my descendants?
Yeah. But the majority?
I'd I'd I think. I'd kill the kid.
I really. That's not how innovation,
that's not how like, but in thissociety.
It is. But this?
Listen, you just. You just.
Chose to kill a billion lions over.
The night Reject now you're not going to.
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Push down in terms of semantics,OK.
You can't be like, well that's one of those lions could have
geared cancer you. Know there's infinite people
and. There's a potentially infinite
number of people that are your descendants, and any one of them
could come up with a like it's. The infinite monkey theorem.
But the infinite monkeys are your descendants and the
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Shakespeare plays are the cure for kids, so not.
The sin? Yeah, the kid.
Sorry, so I feel, I feel really bad doing it, but I don't think
you do. You don't look like you.
Feel bad. Yeah, I would get.
Immense joy. All righty, he's going.
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He, he, he and. Rub his hands.
Together, finally. That's it.
That's. All 15.
Questions. We're still, we're still
screaming along because we have no breaks.
Do you want Can we do a little score check in?
Alec, go ahead. I have one point.
And several crimes against humanity.
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I have I have 0 points. I have.
Zero points. I don't know about the crimes
against humanity, probably a few.
OK, does anyone have a guess forthe?
Challenge question I think. It was.
It's the first, first one. Yeah, it.
Was the first one. We have to run.
Through all the answers for us. Oh yeah, you answered.
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I'll work through all the questions.
The first trolleys were powered by horses, the the old 5V1, the
5B1. But they're you're each your
mother 7 versus the guy you push, 5 people versus your life
savings, 5 people running. I don't know 5.
People actively robbing a bank versus one innocent one guy
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versus James Corden. Your entire graduating class
versus the guy about to solve world hunger.
High School Musical versus Elementary school 10 People
versus * King King of the Stars 55 No five in one, except every
single person is being carnated.The Christian God versus the
first animal to walk on land. One guy versus one baby.
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The sun versus a billion lions. All of your descendants versus a
kid who will grow up to cure cancer.
I'm going to go. I'm going to challenge Star.
King, King of the stars. I don't think * King was king of
the stars. Actually I think he was king of
one star but not multiple stars stars.
King. Correct.
Correct. Alec.
Locking it in Locked in for? That's a good guess.
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Maybe trolleys? Weren't pulled by horses.
No. That was that was really leaping
out at me as one that could haveother answers could also be the
lions. One, maybe there's not a
billion. Lions to be killed.
Oh, I think James. Corden was already facts and.
Logic this. Episode.
So it's kind of hard to say whatdid you.
(51:35):
Say. I think James Corden is already
dead. He died.
He died in 1966. And if you listen to that
Beatles record played backwards,it says, what's his name?
James is dead. James is dead.
(51:55):
Yeah, this is. All the Carpool Karaoke's.
Layered of overage. James Corden.
Is a CGI. Celebrity no one's ever met.
James Corden. Yeah, No one's ever.
Seen James Corden except. For all of the people who.
James Corden is a Muppet. That is, being that I, I could
easily believe that. Controlled.
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That's why he's always. Sitting behind that jacket.
Easily, yes. Logan.
You're locked in on James Corden.
Yeah, I challenged a billion. Lions to a Fight to to a.
Fight to a battle. Of wits to a.
Battle of wits it's. Like that time Michael Phelps
(52:40):
was to. Shines go through this episode
Trolley. Problem question.
All righty drum roll please. Question 13.
The one. Guy versus the one baby.
Oh, what the baby. Was the baby?
Was Hitler. Dang, it should have killed
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baby. I knew.
I could see it in his eyes, the.Mustache.
Kind of he didn't. Have the mustache, yeah.
That's why it didn't click. Yeah, so.
But the swastika? Armband was like.
Yeah, that was serious. Yeah, that one made gave me some
thought. Man, maybe I should kill this
one. All righty, final scores just.
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So you guys know your final killcount was 1 billion and 41 kill?
Wow. So we're saying a lion's soul.
Is worth the same as a human soul?
God, I don't want to get into that.
It's a little. Different as the glove, this is
what you don't want to get into,but you'll.
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Put. Christianity versus Evolution.
Alec, I believe you have -2 points.
What? Yeah.
So. The so the lies don't.
Count as points, yeah, Then yeah, yeah.
And. Logan have negative -3 yeah, Oh
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yeah, I got that. I didn't get that one.
In round two and then any of anyof the ones in.
OK, yeah. So yeah -3 our most utilitarian.
Goes to Logan with 37 sweet, the1 billion and 37 kills.
Wait, that was the utilitarian? Because you've saved the most
lives. You saved the most.
Lives you. Still killed a billion.
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Lion killing over a. Billion people, OK.
Lion and then Dante. And Alec, you have the.
Highest kill counts with lions are people 40 or 1 billion and
40. Oh, we tied.
Oh, we. Tied, OK.
Wow, yeah, on kill. Counts.
Well, oh hey guys, you're makingus look bad.
We fixed the brakes and. Just in time, because it looks
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like we rolled into the station.Oh thank God, that's all the
time we had that. Happened before we go, we'd like
to. Thank Vert for the use of our
theme song 5-7 or Five 978, which is a banger.
Given the choice between all of the music on one track and 5978
(55:11):
on the other track, I would hit every other song ever.
Thanks. For riding bus 1.
Or Trolley One, I guess halfway through this episode and we'll
see you next time versus * King King of the stars.
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Who's star king? I've sensed the.
Disturbance within the boss. No proper trivia.
A sorry excuse for a challenge question.
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Yet I don't believe our contestants are quite Privy to
our existence at this time. Still, it is unnerving to hear
your name muttered by the mouthsof mortals.
May this be only a coincidence.
The time is nearing. Who?
Are. You I am gaining strength,
strength, strength, strength. Starkey, I thought Aiden came up
with you for that. Dumb trolleys, Zeppy.
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Sit trolleys, Zeppy. Sit trolleys.
Soon I will be ready to face them myself.
Self self, self, self, self. It's a trolleys rerun.
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Welcome aboard Bus 1. We're on our way to San
Francisco, CA, and we've got some time to kill gamers.
Introduce yourselves. Hello, I am Alex.
Brother, this guy stinks. Hello, I am Dante.
You can't refuse. Hello, I am Logan and it's time
(01:19):
to play some trivia too, right? Yeah, hi, Hello, and welcome.
We're going to play some trivia.If you're new to this and didn't
know what's going on, that's what's happening.
Also, if you're new to this and didn't know what's going on,
rules, we got them. Here they are #1 no Googling.
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I always got to put it first because of John.
He's not playing. New rule.
New rule just drops. I just like calling out John
every episode, so no Googling John.
There are three levels, 5 questions per level, so that's
like 15 questions total. Level one has one point per
correct answer, level 2 has two points per correct answer, and
(02:02):
Level 3, you guessed it, has four points per.
Just kidding, it's 3 three points per correct.
Threw me off. Imagine we will be using a
buzzer for this game, so it's buzzing in to get the answer.
There is the challenge rule. So once per game I'll give a
fake answer to a question if youcorrectly call me out on it.
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You get three extra points if you don't.
I love the little :) thumb. Bring it back.
To the smiley thumb smiley. Thumb.
It immediately comes. It immediately falls off from my
sweaty fingers. Sam had a smiley thumb I think
in the Apple episode. I don't know.
It's purely. It's purely for us.
(02:42):
I'm drawing a smiley thumb now. It's.
Basically, yeah, don't challengewrong or else you lose 3 points.
That all had to say. Oh, he's kind of tiny, but there
you could kind of see him. Yeah, he is.
And then yeah, most points wins opposite of goal.
This is already started a lot of.
(03:03):
Purely comedy happening right now, yeah.
Before we go, do you guys want to guess what the category is?
We're going to San Francisco, right?
Yeah, we're going to San Francisco.
Broccoli. Good guess not.
Broccoli. Good guess.
Don't patronize him. They do.
Bro Gas, thanks inside out. OK, wait.
(03:25):
San Francisco. 15 questions about broccoli.
I I did, and then I had to scraphim because Cooper told me he
was already working. I'm.
Like are you kidding me? This.
Sucks on the broccoli episode so.
What happens in San Francisco? Architecture, bridges and stuff.
Oh no. Closer.
(03:45):
Closer than broccoli. Legal nudity.
Oh, is is it? Yeah, Ant man.
Ant man. No, it's that's right.
You all got it. The category is trolleys.
Trolleys definitely not similar to trains.
Are we doing 15? Trolley problems starting off
(04:09):
with round one, Question one thethe world's first trolleys were
powered by what? Alec buzzed him first.
Horses. Oh Ding, Ding, Ding, that's one
point to you. OK, wait, how are we defining
powered? I would say they were bull.
So the the world's first passenger tram was founded by
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the Mumbles Railway Act, but with the British Parliament and
that's the first horse drawn passenger tram system.
So and then that slowly moved tosteam power and then now it's
electric. So more you know, it's electric.
The first thing that came to my mind was magic.
Magic wizardry every. Craft.
Every trolley had a wizard inside, you know.
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OK, so yeah, moving on Question 2.
What is the difference between atram and a trolley, Dante?
I buzzed in without having an idea so I'm going to make one
up. I would say a tram has hang.
On. Hang on.
Before you answer, do do you guys see that in front of us?
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Is that no? Is that a group of five people
on the road? Hang on, let.
Me try to hit the brakes. Let me try to hit the brakes on
this bus. Let me try to hit the brakes on
this bus. Oh shoot guys, the brakes
failed. Site.
Luckily, a choice. Luckily, there's an exit.
Luckily, there's an exit. Are we on a?
(05:37):
Bus If only one of us can grab the wheel of the bus and swerve
to the next Rd. we could probably avoid these five
people. But Oh no.
Aren't you driving? There's a singular innocent on
the other Rd. What are what are we gonna do?
What are we gonna do? Singular.
Wait, so do who decides the fiveand 1st?
(05:59):
Guilty. I think if.
There actually was a trolley problem.
The conductor or the driver or whatever would put it to a
democratic vote first. I think he would act off of
instinct. All I'm saying, all I'm saying
is there's, there's three of you, like two people pulling one
way would probably balance out. So it's the democratic way
we're. All grabbing the wheel.
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I would grab, I would grab the wheel and turn it.
Which way though? Well.
If you do, If you do nothing. If you do nothing technically,
did you really kill the five people?
Can I, can I please ask, are we on a bus or a trolley?
Are there tracks? So we're on a bus.
Just yes, we're on a bus or there's tracks.
The other way, there's track. OK, there's tracks.
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Bus is on tracks. It's on our turn.
We can't off road because then I'm going to.
Turn it off the damages. Me and Logan are turning it,
therefore it turns no matter what Alec wants.
To do well. Are the five people guilty or
innocent? You didn't say.
The bus turn the bus bam right into that one innocent.
Person win some, you lose some, you know.
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That was baby Gandhi. Wait, are the people like
points? Should we have come with the
five points? It is.
It is your kill counter so I am tracking that.
Oh, well, I mean, you hit the one guy, but here we are.
There's there's five more peoplein.
Front, damn it, hang on, the difference between a tram and a?
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Question is this question 3? By the way, there's five more
people in front of the Buzz you could swerve, but what's that?
You each see your own individualmother in the exit way.
Wait as in like the one person I'm like hey.
What's? My mom.
And then that's your mom. That's my mom.
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That's my mom. And.
Then they're like. What is your individual?
Do we have the same mom? We're all long lost, brothers.
Are. We is this the that one mirror
in Harry Potter that just shows you your greatest desire, but
it's just shows you your mom it?Shows you your are you?
Saying your greatest desire is your mom.
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Your mom. I mean, probably on some level,
you know, think about it. I don't think I want.
Freud. Freud would love that.
Freud ever messed with the trolley problem?
I think I would have a lot harder time killing my.
Mom, I would hope. She's kind.
Of guilty or innocent. There are five random strangers.
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Honestly if you had to look at him, probably around 38.1 years
old collectively. I mean.
We're. All guilty of something.
That's what I'm saying. Even my mom.
Even your mom, though not. My mom.
Not, not my mom. Not my mom.
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I would probably, I would probably do nothing and not turn
toward. I think it would be hard to turn
towards my mom, but I wouldn't feel guilty about letting it
just sit there. I'd be like, oh, sorry.
Yeah, I I agree. So I will.
I will not turn the wheel. I think that'd be I I don't.
Think I want. That to be my answer, but I
think realistically that's my answer.
I think in no scenario would I turn the wheel because that
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that's that means you are choosing to you know?
What if? One, wait for round 3.
What if? What if there are no people on
the other track? It's like, no.
Maybe that scenario? What if it was it delayed like
an arrival time? Who knows?
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But but you'll be late. You guys don't do anything as,
as we we ram into those five people, Dante's like, sorry,
you're. Sorry, not Yeah, I don't know.
It's my voice that high, yeah. Who was getting points?
You you got one for the first. I think my mom got.
What? Alec, you got the first question
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for Alec. Got one point.
No. Other.
Point and you've killed a total of 6 people.
What about the difference between a tram and a trolley?
Can I actually say what my guessis for that because I have AI
came up with what I thought is the right answer.
Is there a difference? My guess is that a tram has.
A. My My guess is that a.
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Tram but ram is on a fixed like a fixed line, like it only goes
from point A to point B back andforth and a trolley has like
tracks where it goes in full round you know.
I think they're the same. I was going to say one goes both
directions and the other can only.
Go 1 you. Know, I think a tram because I
feel like trams are the thing always at like mountains where
they're like, you could just take the tram up to the top and
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it like goes back, that's the tram, you know?
Yeah, but a trolley is like woo going all over multiple stops.
Yeah, trolleys, there are no rules.
Trams can go up and down. Oh, maybe that's it.
It's about elevation change. Well, but the trolleys are in
San Francisco. So hilly, so much elevation.
Change. This is all speculation the San
Francisco. It's truly.
(11:02):
Trans Sam Rickard would probablyknow the answer to this, yeah.
Hello, hello, can you hear me? Yes, it's me again, the fact
checker. I just had something to clear up
the confusion. While some may try to lip pick
differences between trams and trolleys, the 2 words typically
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refer to the same form of frail transportation in urban areas.
Trolley is simply the preferred term in North America, while
tram is used elsewhere. I hope this helps.
OK. Bye, all righty.
Question 4. So now, now you got 7 people in
front of you, but you notice in the back of in bus 1, there's a
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rather large passenger sitting here, so you can push him in the
way and slow down the bus enoughto get those seven people out.
Are you pushing him? Wait, wait, can't wait.
Can you explain the physics of there's a passenger on the bus?
We're bowling. Yeah, you you'd push him out in
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on the front and then the bus would roll over him, slowing the
bus. Down, out onto the front of the
bus. We're gonna bust him through
the. Windshield.
I don't know. You'll figure it.
Out that's so violent can we askthe the passenger if they if
they would be OK with? That with that, no, he's asleep
actually. What if they're asleep?
Excuse me Sir, I don't think realistically I have the
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physical strength to lift any person long enough to slow down
a trolley because I am a small weak boy.
We're on a bus. It's yeah, it's a runaway bus.
Oh, sorry either way. The the bus one problem if you.
I think, I think in this scenario I would only not do it
because in my mind there is no guaranteeing that I'm not just
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adding one. I wouldn't think, Oh yeah, this
is the only thing we can do. Why did you up it to seven
people for this? 1 Did you think a little more?
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Like 5. Ohh yeah I could probably 7, I
don't know. I don't know you.
Can't, can't be comfortable. You never know how many people
are gonna be in the front of your runaway bus.
Again, I'd probably do nothing in this scenario.
Yeah, I think I'm also doing nothing.
I'm definitely not going to actively toss a person.
From this. Podcast are.
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You guys seeing Dante's? Show.
You are all frozen, I was thinking.
Dante has like a weird green screen glitch right going on
right now where there's a purpleDante here and a purple Dante
too is like left and right like the devil and Angel Dante's on
his shoulder. It reminds me of Patrick Starr,
'cause he's like a green pants. I just took a screen cab for.
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Costume. Yeah, I'm doing that too.
What happened to Dante? Are you with us?
He was the passive. Yeah, we pushed him all over.
We pushed Dante into the. Listeners at home.
Dante is 750 lbs. Of muscle.
Of muscle so. A few moments later.
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Anyway, sorry y'all, where were we?
Did we kill that large human? I don't know.
We're waiting on you. I I would not I would not kill
large human. We're all in agreement, OK?
So that's 7 seven more people that the bus, the runaway bus
tears through, but at least the sleeping passenger in the back
is. Wait, wait.
He was. Sleeping where?
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Yeah. Where is our are we like going
down a mountain? Like how are we not run out of
momentum yet? The.
Horses are so strong. The horses are just not giving
up. San Francisco is a lot of horses
are trampling all these. Guys correct.
All these pedestrians. Yeah, we're we're on a horse.
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Bus The first buses were actually horse bus back in the
day. They had the the first newspaper
trivia column was the horse drawn Bus 1.
True. When you said horse bus, I
definitely imagined a bus. Four horses.
Those I've, I've seen those, yeah, those houses.
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All righty, Question five. Oh my God, we're rocking with
five people. Yeah, five people over the bus
are. There not points?
Are we just killing people? Is that what?
No, no, Alec got a point. Alec got that one point.
One of my challenging. Up to you.
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He's not mom, not my mom. That was my mom.
OK, we're rocking with five people again.
Five people dead ahead. Divert, wait.
If they're dead, I'm definitely not doing anything because
they're already. Dead.
Alive ahead, divert the bus, butyou hit your life savings.
That doesn't exist, so definitely divert the blocks
(16:17):
like. In the cloud, it hits cloud.
Blockchain servers all of your crypto investments.
I definitely divert. If you if you asked me in 20
years, this might be a harder question, but right now there's
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not much. You're going to let 5 people
die? No, no, no.
I think in 20 years it'd be a more difficult question because
I would have a life savings. OK.
But for now. Logan's saying for now he values
life. More than life, right For 20
years well corrupted Logan. Yes.
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I do nothing again. What?
But but it's democratic, so we saved it.
You you do nothing. Again, I'm gonna lock in doing
nothing. He values consistency, overall
life. At this.
Point It's the horse's fault if we kill anyone else.
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Wow. OK, so hitting the life savings,
human wealth higher than or human life higher than wealth
for now. For now.
For now. Nice.
Well, that's it for round one. Score check it.
Score check it. OK, so I have one.
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I have 0 but I think I murdered a lot of people.
Yeah, I have. That's what counts.
Yeah, maybe. Alec, you've killed 12 people,
and Logan and Dante have killed 13.
Oh, we are keeping individual tallies of our kill counts.
Oh yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm keeping. So Mom counts.
Does not what you've decided like what actually the majority
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decides, but then you get kill counts based on if you were in
the majority. Do I?
Maybe the real points was the folks we killed along the way.
Maybe are? You trying to make this into it
like the moral of the story? Maybe the whole time the points
were the bodies all along. It's really morbid if you think
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about the fact that we're just running over people with the bus
and not an ethical thought experiment.
Let's go on to round. Two, let's go.
Can we get on a trolley? Just to help my brain.
Yeah, OK. Pulling the bus over for a
second, it's still the brakes still don't work.
We pulled over. I'm switching on to the track
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that has a trolley on it. Trolley won.
But it's still a horse trolley. Still a horse trolley.
We like moved all the bridles, we like unhooked all of them
individually and like moved. Them, we got that.
We got their feedback. We're on a trolley now.
Bag everyone. Everyone now get their bags from
luggage baggage claim before getting on there connecting grab
trolley. Bags.
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I gave them my. I gave Tom Banks my ticket.
And he snipped. Believe he snipped AB and an E
into it all wicked. Fast.
He skipped like 5 people on one track and one person on another.
What does it mean? There's hot chocolate inside,
too. Yeah, OK, Round two, this is
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just, we're gonna, we're gonna get a little more.
This was before this was a little classic trolley problem.
Now let's let's get into some some real thinkers, shall we?
OK. Question Six.
Wait, you're so we're on the trolley now, right?
Thank goodness. Down the track you see five
people actively robbing a bank. Oh, like you're guilty.
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Like Wild West style. Like, you know, Muppets like,
have a lag. With a money sign on, right?
Yeah, yeah. And they're like doing this
little run out of the bank. You can divert the trolley, pull
a lever, but you'd hit one innocent person.
This is This is a oh really? I also do nothing honestly.
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Not that I not that I think committing a crime is worthy of
the death penalty. That's where.
That's where I'm. But I, I am.
I am simply on a runaway trolley.
I'm not the gonna be the executioner here to decide who
gets to die, but. You're not gonna try to minimize
all possible deaths that may occur if there's a crowd of
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people in front of you, like a million people.
A million. It would slow down eventually.
Not if the brakes. Wow.
Are you saying we should assume no friction?
Assume no friction, no air resistance, spherical bus.
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The only thing that can slow down the trolley is by pushing a
large sleep band. That's the only thing that can
slow down the only. Thing that can slow.
Actively. Robbing a bank boy.
You're doing nothing. I feel like boy this is a
toughy. In these scenarios, I'm not
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going to, I'm not going off of like, if I think about it for a
long time, like what? What do I think is the correct
choice? I'm going off of like, if I'm in
there in that moment, like what would my brain like
instantaneously decide? Oh, OK, I like this.
In which case, yeah, if I see five people.
I'm gonna like, oh. 'Cause I might not even know if
there's one person. Oh, you're gonna leave it?
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Yeah, well, if they're actively like robbing a bank or
something, I'd be like. What have the money you're
doing? There's a big money son.
Are they pointing guns at me? They're like, am I?
Like shooting their name in the wall with bullets or whatever.
OK, then I think I would leave. It all right?
No, that's. What it feels like I'm.
Doing a survey to Logan's point,I would probably do nothing in
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real life. Like if I had like a split
moment to like analyze, like who?
Wait, who are they? Is that a giant bag of muggy?
And and then why do we do nothing?
Nothing. OK, you.
Guys also do nothing. Right through the five people
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robbing the bank. Yeah.
Yeah, right. Right through.
Them now now question 71 innocent person on the track.
OK. On the other track, esteemed
actor and late night host James Corden, OH.
Kill him, kill him, kill James Corden.
You. Yeah.
Do you divert to James Corden, or do you let the one average
(22:51):
man? Yeah, make this decision way
easier if he was dressed up likea cat.
Or he's just not. He's just James Corden.
That's still pretty bad. I I.
Yeah, I would also turn. Wait, wait.
Sir is locked in? Is he doing one of those
crosswalk musicals? Yeah, yeah.
(23:12):
Yeah, that's an easy one that should have been like.
Because he deserves it. He should have known not to be
in the cross. That's true that's true.
Honestly if if anything he had it coming right.
Like he's he's played with fate enough times that's.
Actually, the song he was doing,he was doing Chicago, Yeah.
(23:34):
Yeah, I feel good about this one.
We I just want to get everyone'sopinion on James Corden really
quickly worth more or less than the average I.
Don't exactly know why I should should hate James Corden and I
just know that I. Do you know what?
That's fair. That being said, I would love to
have James Corden on the podcast.
(23:55):
Yeah, that that one show that was a stepping stone to plus one
trillion. For sure.
How many latest is in front of his show?
They just keep me. More, they're like.
This is the Late Show, and this is the Late Late Show.
Ohh I didn't even think. There's a late, late, Late Show
and I'm at like, at that point, that's Carson who's.
Too late Exclamation point show who's watching?
(24:17):
It's too Late, Show. Nobody's watching just this is.
Real early show. That's the next one.
You're up already show. Go to bed the show Show with
James Corden brunch with. James Corden, he's just on 24/7.
(24:39):
It's. It's just that it's just the
studio with all the Truman Shows.
Yeah, it's just the Truman Show.They just keep bringing on
special guests for him to talk to you.
And he's like, I just want to lead Question 8.
Your entire graduating class is on the track ahead of you from
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what? But high school, High school,
university, whenever. Well, those are different groups
of people. Whatever makes the moral dilemma
harder versus like a guy who youcan like, look in his eyes and
you just know he's about to solve world hunger.
Oh, oh, you just know, I don't think I.
(25:24):
Would I know that guy is on? He's walking to the meeting
where he is going to solve worldhunger.
He's just. Carrying.
He's got much front in his step that you could just tell.
He's like. He's carrying, he's carrying a
huge turtle of corn. You're like, wait a minute.
Oh man. What was the first choice?
(25:52):
Like my entire graduating. Classic university or entire
university so. Many.
That's thousands of people. I know I was like.
Yeah, there's no way. University.
But world hunger? How many people you're not?
Killing them if you let it happen.
You know what? I'm going to go with the world.
The the guy who looks like he's.Going to saw world hunger.
You're going to kill world. Hunger that's like back at the
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office. That's true.
There's no way. It's like a lone scientist that.
He's and I would think about allthis in a split moment to
decide. Yeah, like there's no way one
guy gets all gross. Regardless what, regardless of
what he looks like or what I think he's about to do, there's
thousands of people in front of those trolleys.
I'm definitely. I'm definitely.
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You know, I'm I'm scooching down.
In here, I'm still going to kill.
I'm still going to kill him. Who's still going to kill?
Yeah, for sure. I.
Think I would also kill the cornguy.
Unfortunate for the corn guy. OK, divert the track.
How many you know world hunger could have been solved.
Would we have gotten if we if wekilled our entire graduate in
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class? I'll never say.
I'll never say OK, I'll never say.
They'll never say. Question 9 The entire cast of
all of the High School Musical movies.
Oh man. If you let the train go or the
trolley, it would ruin any chance of a reunion because they
all be gone. That was my first thought.
(27:20):
Or you could divert to an entireelementary school class this.
Is not even a well question. The cast of High School Musical
is a lot larger than the elementary school class.
And you wouldn't get a High School Musical.
Okay, recounting. Get a High School Musical.
(27:40):
Who are recounting as the cast like probably not all like the
extra like danced in all of thistogether.
Anyone who they had hired to show up to a reunion of.
I think. So definitely not probably.
Gonna be like 10 people. It'll just be the stars.
It'll be whoever makes makes them money, right?
So it's only going to be the big.
Guess it won't. I bet Zac Efron's not even
(28:02):
probably. Cello guy he's got.
Better things to do, yeah. Hope they're a reunion without
him. Yeah, they they do the reunion,
but like, there's always that one guy who thinks they're too
good for the reunion, so they don't show up.
Yeah. Yeah, that guy's.
You know how like but like friends reunion, Zac Efron
didn't even bother he. Wasn't even there.
(28:22):
I know it's. Really ridiculous.
I'm really confused the. Whole time like where is Zac
Efron? Man, I, I, I'm sorry, Troy.
I think I would. I think I would.
I don't think I would divert this trolley, this bus, just
trolley. Honestly, would Cameron be on
that one? Because he was Troy and coach
(28:43):
includes every single person played.
High School Musical character ina play or a music.
Like this Cameron invited to thereunion of high school.
I think, I think he has to be. I will definitely let the cast
of High School Musical die. I'll.
Let them go, you know? You know what they say.
If you love something, let it go.
(29:04):
Yeah, let it get run over. By they had their.
Team of horses, yeah. I'm going to estimate that to 10
people, but RIP, RIP the High School Musical guests.
We're not getting a reunion if it doesn't happen.
We can always CGIM. True.
Deep fake Oliver. True.
Except for Zac Efron, because hewasn't on the back.
He wasn't originally not going to do it.
It'll be a it'll be a reunion with Zac Efron and Muppet
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versions of all these. Yo I would have watched that so
much faster than a regular High School Musical reunion.
It's like it's the actual Muppetcharacters dressed up as high
school. Like Kermit the Frog is
Gabrielle or Gabrielle I'm going.
To be honest, I have never seen any High School Musical movie.
(29:46):
That's wild. I've never seen.
A. Well, you better watch High
School Musical 2 before the HighSchool Musical 2 episode.
I won't, I'll guarantee that. But you but you better.
OK. High School Musical 2 High
School. Two Dante, you better it is.
No, it's not. It is.
It also alludes to the fact thatit takes place in a post civil
(30:10):
war society where secession was successful.
Please. Because Turkey.
Turkey. The line of Turkey imported from
Maine means that Maine is not a part of the same country that
Sharpay is currently resides in.Therefore.
But New Mexico wasn't a part of the Confederacy, was it?
(30:31):
It's in the South. You never know, they could have
expanded. If if New Mexico could be in the
Confederacy versus the Union, they choose the Confederacy.
I know it. Albuquerque.
I know this to be true. OK, if he knows it all.
Right. I looked into Albuquerque's eyes
while it was holding a giant piece of corn.
(30:53):
And I just and I just knew all. Right question 10, 10 people on
the track ahead of you, 10 average average Joes and
Jolene's versus on the other track * King, the King of the
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stars. Wait, who was who was * King?
Who's that star? King, the king of the star.
He's the king of the stars. Yeah, but like.
That. Is that is that a reference?
Is. This such a neat.
Smile. No.
It's, it's * king. It's the king of the stars.
Oh gosh, she sounds important. I'm going to leave him is.
This a bad guy from Suicide Squad?
(31:37):
Is that Chris Pratt's dad from Guardians of the Galaxy?
No star, no, this is this is * King, king of the stars.
I don't know. I don't know who * King is, but
if I saw him I probably would bean awe and I would not want to
run him over with a bus. I would want to get.
Closer. Yeah, I would be like, what's
over there? Who's that?
No, because if you kill * king the stars, you become * king and
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stars. You don't know what's going to
happen with that power vacuum. Good benefits.
What are these stars going to dowithout a king?
You don't know how they're goingto react.
This is scary. I would not run over * King.
What's the alternative? 10 people, 10 people fighting. *
King * King can't die from a trolley.
Yeah, it's kind of star be fine.OK, but but Alec, you you forget
(32:23):
there are no breaks. Yeah, I don't know.
I would. I would sooner kill 10 people
than God. He didn't say God * King of the.
* if * king came to. I don't know who * king is is if
it's something. I don't.
(32:43):
Know I have no idea but if * king came down to me I'd be like
God I don't know who you are. What if * King King of the Stars
is just like a guy wearing like a cosplay outfit?
That's what I'm thinking. That's what I'm thinking.
Well, that changes everything. Logan just jumped to like this
must be God this is. This.
(33:04):
Is based on his name. This is God.
I picture the guy with like inferior glow.
Logan never. Go to.
College around him. Walking around.
Like, is that actually Captain America?
(33:26):
Like it starts bowing down to. Like a Chewbacca.
That's happened before. I will kill * King King of the
Stars. I don't know, I think I'd kill
the 10 people. So down to you, Alec.
Oh wait, are we? I thought we were starting.
Individually deciding No, all ofour hands are.
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On the wheel. Well, but then we wouldn't have
different amounts of death counts.
No, because yeah, it's only the ones that you act.
So we're all in, we're all in three separate.
Trolleys. Really.
No, it just doesn't count as your death.
Oh. Yeah, you're against.
I'm not. Your hands are clean for that
one. Got it.
All right. Your law says fair.
I don't think that's. Right through through * King
(34:09):
honest with. You I think that's wrong.
It's been a while. Burgie, always.
Sans kulos. Baguette.
All right, * King on Han Han, I say this stupid bit yesterday.
(34:33):
Because you're French. Yes, we wait.
Actually, yeah, Starking's gone.Oh.
Shit. I actually.
Yeah, and I and I don't honor that at all, every. 2 minutes.
I'm not lying, Yeah. Wait, can we do it?
(34:54):
So that's Round 2, right? Well, yeah, but I mean, let's
just sit for a second. Like, we don't know what's going
to happen to the state of star politics, so.
Yeah, we got to know what happens.
I don't know. There are no breaks.
Let's keep going. In a star.
Break. We get around two ad breaks.
You just said there's no breaks,so.
There's no, there are no breaks.There's no breaks on this
(35:17):
podcast. OK, so there there are five
people in front of you and then to switch to the other track you
have to say an ad. Oh.
Shit. Oh, he got us good.
Wait, is there anyone on the other track?
No open track. I do nothing. * Queen.
OK, I got I got an ad then this trolley journey was brought to
(35:41):
you by * King King of the Stars * King King of the stars, not
God. It's actually a fast food
restaurant. OK, I still feel like I'm in
like completely in the dark. Is * King something you guys
know about that I don't? Wait, you don't wait, you don't
know what * king. OK, now.
Now you're convincing. He's like my child.
(36:09):
You saved me. I did.
Didn't save. Them I tried, I was lost a
spare. Wait you have to?
Am I the only one that does an ad?
The other people just kill 5. I have one point.
(36:30):
Do an ad. I didn't even add to.
If you want to, if you want to save the five people.
I want to get five more points, so I'm going to kill him.
Death is. Good.
I don't know. I think, I don't know how we
determine a winner here. So I'm just taking a shot.
It's going to be out because he's the one with points.
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This runaway trolley is brought to you by all of our moms, all
at the same time, all at once. All of our moms, all at the same
time, all at once. Great film.
They are on the other track. They're still doing well.
Can't say the same for starts. This is brought to you by Alex's
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mom, Alex's mom, Alex's deepest desire.
Love your mom. Round 3 This is you can you can
kind of feel it in the air. We're getting a little we're
getting a little fast and loose with the the rules of time and
space in this one. I was a little.
Concerned that last question, does * King come back into this?
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Who knows, only time will tell. Who's the next space?
For space. Question 11-5 people on the
track in front of you. One person you can divert to,
but all six people are reincarnated versions of you.
Oh well, probably. Oh, wait.
So it doesn't matter. No, there's 5I.
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I think I should not be duplicated as such I kill the
most possible I. There should be.
There should be. Yeah, you.
Said we're we're doing weird time.
Stuff when you when you die, youget reincarnated.
So each of these people are reincarnated version of you.
Oh. All from different points in
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time. But here together now on this.
Trolley track I would still I would still kill them.
It's beautiful. You know what if 6 reincarnated
versions of me went across the multiverse to be on this trolley
track, it must have been for a reason and I hit the five.
This. Is the way I must go.
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Yeah, I'd have a hard time comprehending what's going on
and probably just hit the five. I would hit the five.
I think it's good for plot. Yeah, agreed.
Good for plot. That would be a good plot,
right? There's still one out there.
Exactly. And then it's like he was the
only one to witness it, so then he just tries to chase me down
and kill me to avenge his own death.
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I think that's how that would goor.
Avenge his own they. All had to be there for.
You like deaths? Yeah, what if you had to run
over six people to save the world?
But when if you got confused by the wrong track, you never know.
Whoa, question 12 In front of you, you see the Christian God.
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Oh, like for real this time for.Real this time, not a cop.
Look into his. Eyes and just.
How we're back. You can you can divert the you
can divert the track and hit thefirst animal to ever walk on
land. Oh, probably not for last.
Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. I don't know, evolution or
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creationist, Yeah. OK, Jesus or God first of all.
The Christian God, so kind. Of so the the Trinity you got. 2
Trinity. You got, said the Trident I.
Said the trifecta. But I knew that was.
The Holy Tri. Baby A triple.
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This might be insensitive, I don't know.
I think Christians will be OK. They've been fine historically.
I think they'll be fine. OK, we learned anything from the
movie. God's not dead.
Is that God? He's not dead.
So I I go, I go for God's worm. Embrace his worm.
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His worms. And leave alone Tiktaalik I
think is the first to walk out. Whoa, some serious science
knowledge he. Only knows that because it ends
in Alec. Alec was the first Alec was the
first creature to walk on land and.
He's still here. I would.
I mean, in the, in the moment, I'd just be like, oh, that's
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just the little, a little guy. I'm gonna kill the little guy,
the little creature. The lizard, well, oh, that's the
other. Is this a little salamander?
What kind of time situation are we in?
Like do does this? Animal is the one that jump
starts evolution to land walkingcreatures.
You don't think you have like a brother whose legs were like
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basically the same? We could have figured it out.
What's important here is to findout which is true, evolution or
creationism, and kill the opposite, because we we doom all
of humanity by choosing the wrong one.
I think we will be fine regardless of our choice.
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We had Dante. Serious about this, Dante?
I think I have OK evolutionarily, if we kill the
first thing to walk on land, other things will probably walk
on land later. Right, that's what.
I'm saying we just might look. Will they be the same?
Yeah, I I would kill the little guy.
Can we confirm if God would die if the trolley hit God?
That's my question. One way to find out I'm going.
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To kill God, I think. It's not a good sign that our
trolley is another God. But really, and I, I, I had to
keep reminding you of this. There are no brakes.
Oh. Is there are no brakes translate
to we are an omnipotent being. No brakes.
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We pulling the ladder? What's up?
I'm going to let the trolley runinto the Christian God.
Final answer. Nope, little guy kill the little
guy. Well, but here's the thing.
If you if you're running over the little guy, you pretty much
know it's going to die. Didn't mean to rhyme, sorry, but
if you run into God, you don't know if God's going to die,
right? That's.
What I'm That's what I'm saying.So I think God's going to die
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from a trolley, unless Eden tells me verbatim that God will
die by a trolley. In In the spirit of the trolley
problem, I'm imagining this means I can kill God or the
little little dude. One of the two.
I'm going to do the little dude.Well, kill him, you guys run.
You run straight into the Christian God.
And if we're moving too fast to see what actually happens, so
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who knows? All right, no breaks.
OK, Question 13. One average human being.
You can you can divert it. It's one average human baby.
Human baby. Versus adult. 38.1 year old a
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30. 8 year old 38. .1. He's lived long enough that's
like that would be considered generous like a few 100 years
ago. I'm going to let the adult die.
I do nothing. Yeah, that's an easy one.
Baby's a lot. You would choose to hit a baby.
Who me? Yeah.
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No, no, none of us did. Oh, OK.
For some reason I thought Logan said he wanted to.
He was like, oh, I don't know. What do you think I?
Don't know you think starking isGod?
I'd be OK. Just a really convincing
cosplay. Save the baby.
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Save the. Baby baby saved Question 14
You're on on the track Towards the sun.
I've got. Just no the the.
That baby, no, we just, we just involved the baby.
Yeah, yeah. And you could divert it to a
billion lions, I think. I think the argument is the sun
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versus a trillion lions but. It's a billion lions.
But it's a billion, OK. But but it's a billion.
I would probably kill a billion lions, assuming that there's at
least two more after that. OK.
Even if there's not to kill the lions, it's.
We need some logical consistency.
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Who dies between the trolley andthe sun in the collision?
I think we die in that case. No, because then then the God
one is dumb because you said like Oh well if it's the sun
killing God versus killing a lizard, so we're killing the
sun. Yeah, OK.
Sure. So definitely.
Kill the sun, kill a billion lions.
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I don't think there's. 1 billionlives.
I would kill the lions. I mean, yeah, kill the lions for
sure. Kill the lions.
Because killing the sun implies.We're probably just pretty much
kill. The floats all of the earth too.
Like if the sun goes, we all go.Where did the billion lions come
from? Anyway, if there's a billion
lions, there's a bigger problem.The lion problems There's a
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billion lions in one location all together there's.
Lined up there in a single file line, yeah.
They're all lined up, but. We have no brakes.
It's a sign. No brakes.
OK, this is the last one. Question 15.
All of your descendants for all time are on the track in front.
OK. Wait, OK, and.
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And on the other track is the kid who will grow up to cure
cancer. You can just tell.
You know you're. My descendants for sure.
No, because this is the same argument.
What if? What if?
Somebody else, Somebody else will kill cancer.
That's not how I don't. Even think.
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I don't even think. Is the person that cure cancer
OK? OK.
Yeah, let let that person have it kill my descendants.
Like I don't even think I want the Earth to have more of my
DNA. Like I'm we're good, you know
what I mean? Like I don't think.
Dante I would love. Those having kids.
But if I never have kids, I'd belike, all right, totally fine.
What if your kid is the kid thatcures cancer?
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No, no, no. They're separate.
Those, these are mutually exclusive choices, correct?
Separate decisions. Yes.
OK, then kill all my descendants.
But your descendants? That's like an infinite number
of people. Not if I don't have kids.
Or maybe I have one? Descendants decides not to then.
OK, it's a potentially infinite number of people.
Probably not or. Probably not.
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Potentially. Probably a few.
A few. I don't, I don't think, I don't
think my bloodline's going very far.
OK, all my descendants or? Yeah, I killed a cancer kid.
He's a kid now. Does he have cancer and he cures
cancer? I don't know even more
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reasoning. Do what?
You know Alec now who's in sensitive?
Maybe he's the kid to cure cancer because we use his body
as an autopsy. It's.
His body to science. And so we're just expediting by
such an eye cure of. Cancer Bike.
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Yeah, yeah. Our.
Our. Trolley.
Has a little a little cow thing on the front of it.
That way he's safely discarded to the side.
He doesn't get under the wheels split right into.
No. So group consensus, kill the
Cancer. No, Dante wants to kill.
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His son. Kill my descendants?
Yeah. But the majority?
I'd I'd I think. I'd kill the kid.
I really. That's not how innovation,
that's not how like, but in thissociety.
It is. But this?
Listen, you just. You just.
Chose to kill a billion lions over.
The night Reject now you're not going to.
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Push down in terms of semantics,OK.
You can't be like, well that's one of those lions could have
geared cancer you. Know there's infinite people
and. There's a potentially infinite
number of people that are your descendants, and any one of them
could come up with a like it's. The infinite monkey theorem.
But the infinite monkeys are your descendants and the
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Shakespeare plays are the cure for kids, so not.
The sin? Yeah, the kid.
Sorry, so I feel, I feel really bad doing it, but I don't think
you do. You don't look like you.
Feel bad. Yeah, I would get.
Immense joy. All righty, he's going.
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He, he, he and. Rub his hands.
Together, finally. That's it.
That's. All 15.
Questions. We're still, we're still
screaming along because we have no breaks.
Do you want Can we do a little score check in?
Alec, go ahead. I have one point.
And several crimes against humanity.
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I have I have 0 points. I have.
Zero points. I don't know about the crimes
against humanity, probably a few.
OK, does anyone have a guess forthe?
Challenge question I think. It was.
It's the first, first one. Yeah, it.
Was the first one. We have to run.
Through all the answers for us. Oh yeah, you answered.
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I'll work through all the questions.
The first trolleys were powered by horses, the the old 5V1, the
5B1. But they're you're each your
mother 7 versus the guy you push, 5 people versus your life
savings, 5 people running. I don't know 5.
People actively robbing a bank versus one innocent one guy
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versus James Corden. Your entire graduating class
versus the guy about to solve world hunger.
High School Musical versus Elementary school 10 People
versus * King King of the Stars 55 No five in one, except every
single person is being carnated.The Christian God versus the
first animal to walk on land. One guy versus one baby.
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The sun versus a billion lions. All of your descendants versus a
kid who will grow up to cure cancer.
I'm going to go. I'm going to challenge Star.
King, King of the stars. I don't think * King was king of
the stars. Actually I think he was king of
one star but not multiple stars stars.
King. Correct.
Correct. Alec.
Locking it in Locked in for? That's a good guess.
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Maybe trolleys? Weren't pulled by horses.
No. That was that was really leaping
out at me as one that could haveother answers could also be the
lions. One, maybe there's not a
billion. Lions to be killed.
Oh, I think James. Corden was already facts and.
Logic this. Episode.
So it's kind of hard to say whatdid you.
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Say. I think James Corden is already
dead. He died.
He died in 1966. And if you listen to that
Beatles record played backwards,it says, what's his name?
James is dead. James is dead.
(51:55):
Yeah, this is. All the Carpool Karaoke's.
Layered of overage. James Corden.
Is a CGI. Celebrity no one's ever met.
James Corden. Yeah, No one's ever.
Seen James Corden except. For all of the people who.
James Corden is a Muppet. That is, being that I, I could
easily believe that. Controlled.
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That's why he's always. Sitting behind that jacket.
Easily, yes. Logan.
You're locked in on James Corden.
Yeah, I challenged a billion. Lions to a Fight to to a.
Fight to a battle. Of wits to a.
Battle of wits it's. Like that time Michael Phelps
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was to. Shines go through this episode
Trolley. Problem question.
All righty drum roll please. Question 13.
The one. Guy versus the one baby.
Oh, what the baby. Was the baby?
Was Hitler. Dang, it should have killed
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baby. I knew.
I could see it in his eyes, the.Mustache.
Kind of he didn't. Have the mustache, yeah.
That's why it didn't click. Yeah, so.
But the swastika? Armband was like.
Yeah, that was serious. Yeah, that one made gave me some
thought. Man, maybe I should kill this
one. All righty, final scores just.
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So you guys know your final killcount was 1 billion and 41 kill?
Wow. So we're saying a lion's soul.
Is worth the same as a human soul?
God, I don't want to get into that.
It's a little. Different as the glove, this is
what you don't want to get into,but you'll.
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Put. Christianity versus Evolution.
Alec, I believe you have -2 points.
What? Yeah.
So. The so the lies don't.
Count as points, yeah, Then yeah, yeah.
And. Logan have negative -3 yeah, Oh
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yeah, I got that. I didn't get that one.
In round two and then any of anyof the ones in.
OK, yeah. So yeah -3 our most utilitarian.
Goes to Logan with 37 sweet, the1 billion and 37 kills.
Wait, that was the utilitarian? Because you've saved the most
lives. You saved the most.
Lives you. Still killed a billion.
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Lion killing over a. Billion people, OK.
Lion and then Dante. And Alec, you have the.
Highest kill counts with lions are people 40 or 1 billion and
40. Oh, we tied.
Oh, we. Tied, OK.
Wow, yeah, on kill. Counts.
Well, oh hey guys, you're makingus look bad.
We fixed the brakes and. Just in time, because it looks
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like we rolled into the station.Oh thank God, that's all the
time we had that. Happened before we go, we'd like
to. Thank Vert for the use of our
theme song 5-7 or Five 978, which is a banger.
Given the choice between all of the music on one track and 5978
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on the other track, I would hit every other song ever.
Thanks. For riding bus 1.
Or Trolley One, I guess halfway through this episode and we'll
see you next time versus * King King of the stars.
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Who's star king? I've sensed the.
Disturbance within the boss. No proper trivia.
A sorry excuse for a challenge question.
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Yet I don't believe our contestants are quite Privy to
our existence at this time. Still, it is unnerving to hear
your name muttered by the mouthsof mortals.
May this be only a coincidence.
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