February 25, 2025 • 25 mins
In this 100th episode of the podcast, I reflect on the journey to this major milestone and dive deep into the theme of legacy: what it means, and how we unknowingly build it every single day. I share a few personal reflections, lessons learned, and hear from a couple of past guests around what they want to be remembered for.
Featuring insights from Megan Hamilton, Bethany Hawkins, Jennifer DeWitt, Anita Kirkbride, and Nikki McKnight, this episode challenges you to consider the mark you're leaving on the world -- whether big or small, loud or quiet -- and is a reminder that legacy is all about intention, impact, and authenticity.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Welcome to the Business Blasphemy Podcast,
where we question the sacredtruths of the online business
space and the reverence withwhich they're held.
I'm your host, sarah Khanspeaker, strategic consultant
and BS busting badass.
Join me each week as wechallenge the norms, trends and
overall bullshit status quo ofentrepreneurship to uncover what
it really takes to build thebusiness that you want to build
(00:23):
in a way that honors you, yourlife and your vision for what's
possible, and maybe piss off afew gurus along the way.
So if you're ready to commitbusiness blasphemy, let's do it.
Hello, hello, blasphemers.
I am so stoked.
Welcome to episode 100.
(00:44):
That's right, we are 100episodes in and this is such
such a huge milestone because,no matter what else happens
after today, I beat the odds, Ibeat the stats.
I have 100 episodes in the bag,that is, 100 conversations with
(01:06):
you about the truth about life,about entrepreneurship and how
hard, how challenging businesscan be, but also how beautiful
it can be and how it really canbe the vehicle for our agency
and our autonomy and all of thethings that we hoped it could be
.
For this milestone episode Ireally felt like the right tone,
(01:32):
the right conversation, forthis moment was legacy.
I will never forget one of myfirst coaches, way back in the
early days of my business, whenshe asked me you know, what do
you want to do?
What kind of business do youwant to run?
And originally it was not anoperations business.
Operations is something I fellinto because it was, you know,
something I did in my corporatecareer and I was good at it, and
(01:54):
it was something that wasneeded.
It was service-based and youknow quote unquote easier to
sell, easier to make money with.
But that came later, andoriginally I really did want to
help women craft a legacy.
I wanted to help them figureout what mark they wanted to
leave, and I'll never forgetthat first coach basically said
(02:17):
to me oh no, no, you don't wantto do that.
Nobody understands what legacyis.
You can't sell that, it's notgoing to work.
And as a new entrepreneur whoreally didn't know what she knew
or you know until now, that hithard and so I didn't do that.
But as I've learned and grownover the years, I realized that
(02:38):
that is the thing that hasalways been on my heart, and I
think that's one of the reasonswhy all of this bullshit in the
online business space,particularly in the coaching
industry and you know just howpeople maneuver themselves.
Why it pisses me off so much?
Because it really and trulygets in the way of the legacy
that women want to leave, thelegacy that we left our jobs for
(03:01):
because we weren't getting therecognition and the respect that
we were owed, that we deservedour jobs for, because we weren't
getting the recognition and therespect that we were owed, that
we deserved through our hardwork and our dedication and our
long hours spent away from ourfamilies and having to apologize
for prioritizing our childrenAll of the things that we left
that space for to come into thisspace and build a business.
Because we wanted to leave animpact, whether it was
(03:25):
world-changing or, more thanlikely, something that was just
incredibly personal to us, whatwe wanted to do.
If you want to leave a massivemark on the world, go for it.
I am 100% in your corner.
But if the impact, the legacyyou want to leave, is just being
remembered for being a goodperson, is just being remembered
(03:47):
for having given a shit, havingbuilt a life that was
comfortable for you and yourfamily, that is equally
important, and so that is why Iam so in the pit of my belly
against so much of what goes onin this space, because your
legacy, the mark that you wantto leave, the impact you want to
(04:09):
have, doesn't deserve to betaken advantage of.
And I want to be really, reallyclear here.
All of us have been victim toit, myself included, more than
once, so this is not a call outof anyone.
This is just a reinforcement ofmy belief and your belief that
we can truly do something.
That means something thatmatters, and so, as part of the
(04:34):
conversation today, I went backand invited some of the people
who have been featured in thelast hundred episodes, so former
guests of mine, who I pose thequestion what do you want to be
remembered for?
And, to be fair, I did not givepeople a huge turnaround,
because I am not one of thosepeople.
You will know this by now.
(04:54):
I'm not one of those people whousually has my episodes planned
out for like weeks in advanceor recorded weeks in advance.
I'm pretty much a fly by theseat of your pants kind of girl.
It's just how I go because Ilike to be in that creative flow
.
So I didn't give them a lot oftime.
I sent the email probably aweek before I edited this
episode, and so I'm verygrateful to have gotten any
(05:15):
response at all, because peopleare busy.
But five of my former guests didcome back and share their
thoughts about what they wantedto be remembered for, and I
think that's something that weneed to start thinking about as
women in this space.
How do we, as leaders, makesure that we are leaving the
legacy that we actually want?
(05:36):
Because, if you've beenlistening to the last few
episodes, I've talked a lotabout how, when we come into
this space, one of the thingsthat the coaches you know will
do is try to interpret yourvision through their lens,
through their perspective, and alot of the time, you don't know
what you don't know and you areled down a path that doesn't
(05:58):
actually take you where you wantto go.
So how do we make sure thelegacy that we leave is the one
we actually want?
So let's jump right in.
Megan was featured on episode67 of the podcast Mastering your
Voice From Silence to Spotlightwith Megan Hamilton, so when I
asked her, how do you want to beremembered?
Here's what she said.
(06:19):
Here's what she said.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Hello, sarah.
This is your friend MeganHamilton of UBU Skills, and
first of all, congratulations on100 episodes.
As a fellow podcaster, I knowwhat that means and I hope you
are feeling excellent about it.
I think that I would likepeople to remember me as
(06:42):
somebody who spoke up and saidthe truth even when it was
challenging, somebody who leadswith their values and also,
because of that, helped otherpeople feel like they could do
the same.
When I really think aboutbecause you know, I get a lot of
, I get up to a lot of differentthings when I really think
(07:03):
about what it is, what the mainthing is, it's that ability for
people to feel like they can saywhat they need to say, say no
when they need to say no, standup for themselves, stand up for
others and get out there and dowhatever it is that they are
called to do.
Looking forward to this episodeand here's to a hundred more.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
It is so easy to say you want to speak up and you
want to share the truth andspeak to the truth, and there
are few people who actually walkin that embodiment and have the
courage to do so, and MeganHamilton is 100% one of those
people.
It's scary, it is hard, it isreally, really challenging.
(07:52):
It's supposed to be to be ableto stand in your truth and speak
up, but the leaders who havethe deepest impact are the ones
who refuse to stay silent,because when you speak the truth
, very often it does go againstthe status quo and that shows
such a deep level of integrityand a really strong connection
(08:14):
and commitment to your ownvalues, right being the voice
that challenges the status quo,even when it's hard and it's
easy to say it is hard to do butwhen you do, man alive the
impact that you make, it trulyis something that leaves a
legacy.
You know, I know that I amknown as somebody who speaks up
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and speaks the truth.
And you know what?
For a long time, that was notme.
For a long time, I was somebodywho towed the party line, who
said what everybody wanted tohear, because it was safe, it
was palatable, there was a lotof you know just my own sort of
baggage around wanting to belong, and that stifled my voice.
(08:57):
And you know what?
There's only so much you cantake and at some point the truth
is going to burst free, whetheryou do it intentionally and you
are in control of the truth, orit just comes out because
you've had fucking enough rightso being remembered for speaking
up and saying the truth.
People like that are unsungheroes, and I think Megan is one
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of those people that's going toleave one hell of a legacy.
So here's my question for youwhen was the last time you spoke
a truth that felt super riskybut absolutely necessary?
I want you to think about that,because that is where your
legacy starts.
Sometimes the most impactfullegacy you can make is the one
you leave with the words thatyou share and the truth that you
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share.
And the truth starts with yourstory.
I want to now hear from BethanyHawkins.
She was featured on episode 84.
But you know what I'll?
Speaker 4 (09:53):
let her tell you about it.
My name is Bethany Hawkins andI'm the CEO and founder of
Crackers and Soup, anaward-winning podcast production
company, and I was on episode84, podcast Like a Pro
award-winning podcast secretswith Bethany Hawkins.
If I could be remembered forone thing, it would be
empowering others to use theirvoices and gifts to create
(10:17):
meaningful change.
I think that we get verywrapped up in what we can't do,
that we forget that using ourvoices is the ultimate what we
can do, and our voices are sopowerful and they can move
mountains, and if it doesn'tmove mountains, it can move one
(10:37):
person.
So, through storytelling,through podcast work, through
helping people, especially womenof color, step into their power
and share their stories andbuild something lasting.
That is what I want to beremembered for and hopefully I
am On a personal level.
I want to be remembered formaking people feel good and feel
(11:00):
entertained.
If you do not get the gems andthe wisdom from engaging with me
, I hope you at least got achuckle.
So that is my story.
That is what I want to beremembered for, and I can't wait
to hear what your other guestssay in response to this question
(11:22):
.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Oh man, bethany is one of those people that, when
you are in her energy, youcannot help but feel just like
her entire energy is like agiant, warm, squishy hug.
She is wonderful and just soencouraging and you feel so safe
in her presence and I thinkit's one of the key qualities
that makes her such a powerhousein the podcasting space and her
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desire to leave a legacy ofempowering others to use their
voice and gifts.
I mean, come on right, that isso, so important, because
leadership, true leadership,true impact it isn't always
about the spotlight either.
True leadership, true impact itisn't always about the
spotlight either.
Sometimes you leave a reallypowerful legacy when you hand
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the mic to someone else, becausethe most powerful, impactful
legacies don't just createchange, they actually empower
others to carry it forward andhowever you choose to do that
right.
That's important.
Let's hear from Jennifer DeWitt, who's on episode 63, stories
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that Sell EntrepreneurialStorytelling with Jennifer
DeWitt.
Speaker 5 (12:32):
If I could be remembered for one thing, I hope
that it would be my ability tohelp people see the importance
of their stories and my abilityto help people amplify their
stories and share their stories.
As a copywriter, I never takeit lightly that my clients are
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allowing me to take on theirvoice.
Which is one of the mostimportant assets that we have is
our ability to speak and shareour stories and share our ideas
and our opinions and ourexpertise.
And I have had so many clientswho have come to me and said you
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know who would want to hear mystories, who could relate to
that?
Who cares about my stories?
They think that their life andtheir business is too mundane,
too ordinary, that no one'sgoing to care, that no one wants
to hear what they have to say.
And helping them recognize thatactually, those quote unquote
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everyday stories are some of themost powerful, accessible,
transformative things for othersto hear.
That is how other people aregoing to relate to you and
remember you and trust you andknow, yeah, this is the person
that I want to work with and whois the right coach, therapist,
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fill in the blank, whateverexpertise you are bringing to
the world that they are theperson for me.
I think that stories are themost natural way for us to reach
other people and connect withother people, and helping people
recognize that their storiesare so powerful is something
that I think I do exceptionallywell as a copywriter, and that
(14:32):
is something that I hope that Iwill be remembered for my
ability to see people and seetheir stories and see what they
bring to the table and helpingthem share all of those things
with the world.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
This is another incredible powerhouse who wants
to be remembered for helpingothers see the importance of
their story.
And, again, the most importantimpactors they empower others,
and both Bethany and Jenniferare leaving an incredible legacy
that highlights how legacymultiplies when we help other
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people find their voice.
One of the hardest things forthe vast majority of people to
do.
I mean, we've all heard thestat or the, I guess, the quote.
No, it's a statistic, whateverit is, but the one that the
biggest fear most people have isof public speaking, and I think
that people automaticallyassume that having to tell my
story or empowering my voicemeans having a public speak, and
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that's not necessarily true.
You can really use your giftsto help other people empower
their voice without them havingto actually speak.
I mean, that's one of thethings that's super important to
me, right, helping womenleaders step into their own
power and visibility andinfluence.
And what's really reallycritical is making sure that the
legacy they're leaving is theone they actually want to lead,
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that they are able to embody theidentity that is truly them and
not the one that I or anybodyelse interprets them as, and you
do that by helping peopleconnect with the truth of their
story.
It's kind of a thread here,right Stories, storytelling,
being honest, all right.
I want to share next from AnitaKirkbride.
She is a fellow Canadian andshe was on episode 88, doing it
(16:12):
Scared, imperfection and MentalHealth in Business with Anita
Kirkbride and can I just saythis was and remains one of the
top three most popular episodesof the podcast.
It was an incredibly raw,honest conversation between two
friends about the emotional andmental toll being an
(16:33):
entrepreneur can take.
So here's Anita.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
So your question was what do I want to be remembered
for?
And I've always thought that Iwanted to be remembered for
being a helper.
Wanted to be remembered forbeing a helper.
But I said that to anothercoach type person once and they
laughed and chastised me.
Because you just want to be ahelper, you just want to help
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other people.
Don't you have a legacy youwant to build?
And I don't?
I'm not trying to cure canceror some other big world ill, I'm
trying to help people.
And why the fuck isn't thatenough?
Helping people is a good thing,so I want to be remembered for
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how and how many people I wasable to help in this life.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
What can I say?
I've known Anita for years.
She is one of my day ones, shewas one of my very first clients
and then we became friends and,honestly, I am just constantly
in awe of her courage and herjust tenacity and her
unapologetic honesty.
And what I love about this isthat she is the epitome of
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sometimes legacy isn't in thebig, bold moments.
It's in the small, consistentacts of generosity and care.
You build your legacy, like Isaid, every day, intentionally
or not.
You're building your legacyevery single day, in the actions
you take, in the lives youtouch, in the holding of space
for people who need it.
I've had several friends dothat for me, even in the past
(18:13):
couple of weeks, you know, justhelping me navigate my own
challenges and my own self-doubtand allowing me to reconnect
with the truth of who I am andthe stories that I want to tell,
and you know the legacy that Iwant to leave.
And so it's important tounderstand and remember that
legacy does not need to be grandor complex.
(18:36):
It can truly be deeply personaland still world-changing.
So if legacy feels likesomething that is too big for
you, let me ask what is onesmall act that you can do today
that contributes.
I want to share one more voicenote from my dear friend,
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another Canadian and somebodywho actually only lives about 40
minutes away from me and westill haven't met in person.
Just saying Nikki McKnight.
Her episode is actually comingout next week.
She has the distinct pleasureand honor of being episode 101,
so stay tuned for that.
But when I asked Nikki what herlegacy was, what she wanted to
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be remembered for, honestly, shedelivered a mic drop moment.
Speaker 6 (19:26):
Hey, it's Nikki McKnight, operations and systems
strategist at the Ops Shop.
I was reading a book recentlythat was talking about legacy
and, yes, it was a romance noveland it essentially said that
when you look back on a life,the more important part or the
more important point of view isthe overall picture and not the
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individual tiles or pieces thatmake up that picture.
And this book said it's becauselife is too short to make every
moment poignant and it's toolong to make every moment
perfect.
So, whatever you do, for work,for fun, for hobbies, who you
loved, who you fought with, whoyou stood against, who you
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championed, you're going to cry,you're going to laugh, you're
going to win, you're going tolose, you're going to do all of
those things and hopefully, whenyou step back, the overall
picture was beautiful.
So the legacy that I reallywant to leave, or the thing that
I want to be remembered for, isafter everything is said and
done, after the chips have beenplayed, the touchdowns have been
(20:33):
scored, the applause has beengiven, the tears have been shed.
What I want my legacy to be isthat, when we step back, my
picture is beautiful, I swear.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
I listened to that voice note and I got emotional
Hashtag team crybaby, right, youknow, this really brings the
conversation full circle, fromwhat we leave behind for others
to how we reflect on our ownjourney, right, like I said,
legacy is something that you areleaving every day, whether you
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are doing it intentionally ornot, and it's not just about the
external impact, like, yes,legacy can be big, it can be
world changing.
It can be super impactful.
It can be something deeplypersonal.
It can be something that you dofrom behind the scenes for
other people.
It can be super impactful.
It can be something deeplypersonal.
It can be something that you dofrom behind the scenes for
other people.
It can be your own personaljourney.
It can be something that you dofor yourself, right, and it can
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truly be also not aboutexternal impact.
It can be about innerfulfillment, and this is where
leadership, legacy, purpose,identity all of these things
intersect.
Whatever mark you want to makein the world, whatever you want
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all of this to mean, whetherit's your personal life, whether
it's through business, whetherit's through the relationships,
you cultivate the stories youtell whatever you're leaving
behind.
You cultivate the stories.
You tell whatever you'releaving behind.
If you zoomed out and looked atyour life as a whole, would you
call it beautiful?
Would it reflect your values,your voice, your impact?
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Because legacy isn't builtlater, it's not something that
you do after you've retired fromyour job or you've retired from
business.
It's built now.
It's built in intention, it'sbuilt in what you wake up every
morning wanting to do, and thispodcast is one of those things.
(22:34):
This started out as somethingthat you know some friends had
encouraged me to do because theyloved my rants and they were
like you should rant onmicrophone and I thought you
know that's great.
Yeah, it might be a great leadgen opportunity or something to
help, you know, with mymarketing and blah, blah, blah.
But as I really got into it, Irealized the impact it was
(22:56):
having on you, on everyone whotunes in every week to listen,
and the comments and thefeedback and the reviews are
proof that every week, I do mybest to say the things I know
people need to hear and thatthey sometimes want to say for
themselves, but just don't knowhow, or they're afraid, or
(23:18):
they're worried about what otherpeople will think, and all of
those are valid and legitimate.
And I see you and I hear you,and that's why I show up week
after week, because I know howcrazy this online business space
is, I know how entrepreneurshipcan be, and I just want you to
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know every week that you are notalone, that there is somebody
who understands, and that's howI want to be remembered.
I want business blasphemy to bea small part of the legacy that
helped everybody who was a partof it feel like they belonged
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to something.
Now, before I get all mushy andemotional, I would love for you
to head to the show notes andhit the link that says send me a
text or leave a comment ifyou're listening on Spotify, and
tell me how you want to beremembered.
I would love to highlight yourlegacy in a future episode.
(24:19):
Share it on my socials, youknow.
Just get it out there Because,honestly, more and more of us
need to be really invested inwhy we are doing this Not what
anybody else thinks we should bedoing this for, but why we
truly want to do it.
Because, like I say everyfucking week, you guys truly
want to do it.
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Because, like I say everyfucking week, you guys, you can
have success without the BS, andthe success has to be your own.
Thank you for being here for100 episodes.
I love you, I'm grateful foryou and I will talk to you next
week.
That's it.
You next week.
Welcome to the Business Blasphemy Podcast,
where we question the sacredtruths of the online business
space and the reverence withwhich they're held.
I'm your host, sarah Khanspeaker, strategic consultant
and BS busting badass.
Join me each week as wechallenge the norms, trends and
overall bullshit status quo ofentrepreneurship to uncover what
it really takes to build thebusiness that you want to build
(00:23):
in a way that honors you, yourlife and your vision for what's
possible, and maybe piss off afew gurus along the way.
So if you're ready to commitbusiness blasphemy, let's do it.
Hello, hello, blasphemers.
I am so stoked.
Welcome to episode 100.
(00:44):
That's right, we are 100episodes in and this is such
such a huge milestone because,no matter what else happens
after today, I beat the odds, Ibeat the stats.
I have 100 episodes in the bag,that is, 100 conversations with
(01:06):
you about the truth about life,about entrepreneurship and how
hard, how challenging businesscan be, but also how beautiful
it can be and how it really canbe the vehicle for our agency
and our autonomy and all of thethings that we hoped it could be
.
For this milestone episode Ireally felt like the right tone,
(01:32):
the right conversation, forthis moment was legacy.
I will never forget one of myfirst coaches, way back in the
early days of my business, whenshe asked me you know, what do
you want to do?
What kind of business do youwant to run?
And originally it was not anoperations business.
Operations is something I fellinto because it was, you know,
something I did in my corporatecareer and I was good at it, and
(01:54):
it was something that wasneeded.
It was service-based and youknow quote unquote easier to
sell, easier to make money with.
But that came later, andoriginally I really did want to
help women craft a legacy.
I wanted to help them figureout what mark they wanted to
leave, and I'll never forgetthat first coach basically said
(02:17):
to me oh no, no, you don't wantto do that.
Nobody understands what legacyis.
You can't sell that, it's notgoing to work.
And as a new entrepreneur whoreally didn't know what she knew
or you know until now, that hithard and so I didn't do that.
But as I've learned and grownover the years, I realized that
(02:38):
that is the thing that hasalways been on my heart, and I
think that's one of the reasonswhy all of this bullshit in the
online business space,particularly in the coaching
industry and you know just howpeople maneuver themselves.
Why it pisses me off so much?
Because it really and trulygets in the way of the legacy
that women want to leave, thelegacy that we left our jobs for
(03:01):
because we weren't getting therecognition and the respect that
we were owed, that we deservedour jobs for, because we weren't
getting the recognition and therespect that we were owed, that
we deserved through our hardwork and our dedication and our
long hours spent away from ourfamilies and having to apologize
for prioritizing our childrenAll of the things that we left
that space for to come into thisspace and build a business.
Because we wanted to leave animpact, whether it was
(03:25):
world-changing or, more thanlikely, something that was just
incredibly personal to us, whatwe wanted to do.
If you want to leave a massivemark on the world, go for it.
I am 100% in your corner.
But if the impact, the legacyyou want to leave, is just being
remembered for being a goodperson, is just being remembered
(03:47):
for having given a shit, havingbuilt a life that was
comfortable for you and yourfamily, that is equally
important, and so that is why Iam so in the pit of my belly
against so much of what goes onin this space, because your
legacy, the mark that you wantto leave, the impact you want to
(04:09):
have, doesn't deserve to betaken advantage of.
And I want to be really, reallyclear here.
All of us have been victim toit, myself included, more than
once, so this is not a call outof anyone.
This is just a reinforcement ofmy belief and your belief that
we can truly do something.
That means something thatmatters, and so, as part of the
(04:34):
conversation today, I went backand invited some of the people
who have been featured in thelast hundred episodes, so former
guests of mine, who I pose thequestion what do you want to be
remembered for?
And, to be fair, I did not givepeople a huge turnaround,
because I am not one of thosepeople.
You will know this by now.
(04:54):
I'm not one of those people whousually has my episodes planned
out for like weeks in advanceor recorded weeks in advance.
I'm pretty much a fly by theseat of your pants kind of girl.
It's just how I go because Ilike to be in that creative flow
.
So I didn't give them a lot oftime.
I sent the email probably aweek before I edited this
episode, and so I'm verygrateful to have gotten any
(05:15):
response at all, because peopleare busy.
But five of my former guests didcome back and share their
thoughts about what they wantedto be remembered for, and I
think that's something that weneed to start thinking about as
women in this space.
How do we, as leaders, makesure that we are leaving the
legacy that we actually want?
(05:36):
Because, if you've beenlistening to the last few
episodes, I've talked a lotabout how, when we come into
this space, one of the thingsthat the coaches you know will
do is try to interpret yourvision through their lens,
through their perspective, and alot of the time, you don't know
what you don't know and you areled down a path that doesn't
(05:58):
actually take you where you wantto go.
So how do we make sure thelegacy that we leave is the one
we actually want?
So let's jump right in.
Megan was featured on episode67 of the podcast Mastering your
Voice From Silence to Spotlightwith Megan Hamilton, so when I
asked her, how do you want to beremembered?
Here's what she said.
(06:19):
Here's what she said.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Hello, sarah.
This is your friend MeganHamilton of UBU Skills, and
first of all, congratulations on100 episodes.
As a fellow podcaster, I knowwhat that means and I hope you
are feeling excellent about it.
I think that I would likepeople to remember me as
(06:42):
somebody who spoke up and saidthe truth even when it was
challenging, somebody who leadswith their values and also,
because of that, helped otherpeople feel like they could do
the same.
When I really think aboutbecause you know, I get a lot of
, I get up to a lot of differentthings when I really think
(07:03):
about what it is, what the mainthing is, it's that ability for
people to feel like they can saywhat they need to say, say no
when they need to say no, standup for themselves, stand up for
others and get out there and dowhatever it is that they are
called to do.
Looking forward to this episodeand here's to a hundred more.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
It is so easy to say you want to speak up and you
want to share the truth andspeak to the truth, and there
are few people who actually walkin that embodiment and have the
courage to do so, and MeganHamilton is 100% one of those
people.
It's scary, it is hard, it isreally, really challenging.
(07:52):
It's supposed to be to be ableto stand in your truth and speak
up, but the leaders who havethe deepest impact are the ones
who refuse to stay silent,because when you speak the truth
, very often it does go againstthe status quo and that shows
such a deep level of integrityand a really strong connection
(08:14):
and commitment to your ownvalues, right being the voice
that challenges the status quo,even when it's hard and it's
easy to say it is hard to do butwhen you do, man alive the
impact that you make, it trulyis something that leaves a
legacy.
You know, I know that I amknown as somebody who speaks up
(08:36):
and speaks the truth.
And you know what?
For a long time, that was notme.
For a long time, I was somebodywho towed the party line, who
said what everybody wanted tohear, because it was safe, it
was palatable, there was a lotof you know just my own sort of
baggage around wanting to belong, and that stifled my voice.
(08:57):
And you know what?
There's only so much you cantake and at some point the truth
is going to burst free, whetheryou do it intentionally and you
are in control of the truth, orit just comes out because
you've had fucking enough rightso being remembered for speaking
up and saying the truth.
People like that are unsungheroes, and I think Megan is one
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of those people that's going toleave one hell of a legacy.
So here's my question for youwhen was the last time you spoke
a truth that felt super riskybut absolutely necessary?
I want you to think about that,because that is where your
legacy starts.
Sometimes the most impactfullegacy you can make is the one
you leave with the words thatyou share and the truth that you
(09:42):
share.
And the truth starts with yourstory.
I want to now hear from BethanyHawkins.
She was featured on episode 84.
But you know what I'll?
Speaker 4 (09:53):
let her tell you about it.
My name is Bethany Hawkins andI'm the CEO and founder of
Crackers and Soup, anaward-winning podcast production
company, and I was on episode84, podcast Like a Pro
award-winning podcast secretswith Bethany Hawkins.
If I could be remembered forone thing, it would be
empowering others to use theirvoices and gifts to create
(10:17):
meaningful change.
I think that we get verywrapped up in what we can't do,
that we forget that using ourvoices is the ultimate what we
can do, and our voices are sopowerful and they can move
mountains, and if it doesn'tmove mountains, it can move one
(10:37):
person.
So, through storytelling,through podcast work, through
helping people, especially womenof color, step into their power
and share their stories andbuild something lasting.
That is what I want to beremembered for and hopefully I
am On a personal level.
I want to be remembered formaking people feel good and feel
(11:00):
entertained.
If you do not get the gems andthe wisdom from engaging with me
, I hope you at least got achuckle.
So that is my story.
That is what I want to beremembered for, and I can't wait
to hear what your other guestssay in response to this question
(11:22):
.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Oh man, bethany is one of those people that, when
you are in her energy, youcannot help but feel just like
her entire energy is like agiant, warm, squishy hug.
She is wonderful and just soencouraging and you feel so safe
in her presence and I thinkit's one of the key qualities
that makes her such a powerhousein the podcasting space and her
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desire to leave a legacy ofempowering others to use their
voice and gifts.
I mean, come on right, that isso, so important, because
leadership, true leadership,true impact it isn't always
about the spotlight either.
True leadership, true impact itisn't always about the
spotlight either.
Sometimes you leave a reallypowerful legacy when you hand
(12:08):
the mic to someone else, becausethe most powerful, impactful
legacies don't just createchange, they actually empower
others to carry it forward andhowever you choose to do that
right.
That's important.
Let's hear from Jennifer DeWitt, who's on episode 63, stories
(12:28):
that Sell EntrepreneurialStorytelling with Jennifer
DeWitt.
Speaker 5 (12:32):
If I could be remembered for one thing, I hope
that it would be my ability tohelp people see the importance
of their stories and my abilityto help people amplify their
stories and share their stories.
As a copywriter, I never takeit lightly that my clients are
(12:57):
allowing me to take on theirvoice.
Which is one of the mostimportant assets that we have is
our ability to speak and shareour stories and share our ideas
and our opinions and ourexpertise.
And I have had so many clientswho have come to me and said you
(13:20):
know who would want to hear mystories, who could relate to
that?
Who cares about my stories?
They think that their life andtheir business is too mundane,
too ordinary, that no one'sgoing to care, that no one wants
to hear what they have to say.
And helping them recognize thatactually, those quote unquote
(13:43):
everyday stories are some of themost powerful, accessible,
transformative things for othersto hear.
That is how other people aregoing to relate to you and
remember you and trust you andknow, yeah, this is the person
that I want to work with and whois the right coach, therapist,
(14:11):
fill in the blank, whateverexpertise you are bringing to
the world that they are theperson for me.
I think that stories are themost natural way for us to reach
other people and connect withother people, and helping people
recognize that their storiesare so powerful is something
that I think I do exceptionallywell as a copywriter, and that
(14:32):
is something that I hope that Iwill be remembered for my
ability to see people and seetheir stories and see what they
bring to the table and helpingthem share all of those things
with the world.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
This is another incredible powerhouse who wants
to be remembered for helpingothers see the importance of
their story.
And, again, the most importantimpactors they empower others,
and both Bethany and Jenniferare leaving an incredible legacy
that highlights how legacymultiplies when we help other
(15:04):
people find their voice.
One of the hardest things forthe vast majority of people to
do.
I mean, we've all heard thestat or the, I guess, the quote.
No, it's a statistic, whateverit is, but the one that the
biggest fear most people have isof public speaking, and I think
that people automaticallyassume that having to tell my
story or empowering my voicemeans having a public speak, and
(15:27):
that's not necessarily true.
You can really use your giftsto help other people empower
their voice without them havingto actually speak.
I mean, that's one of thethings that's super important to
me, right, helping womenleaders step into their own
power and visibility andinfluence.
And what's really reallycritical is making sure that the
legacy they're leaving is theone they actually want to lead,
(15:48):
that they are able to embody theidentity that is truly them and
not the one that I or anybodyelse interprets them as, and you
do that by helping peopleconnect with the truth of their
story.
It's kind of a thread here,right Stories, storytelling,
being honest, all right.
I want to share next from AnitaKirkbride.
She is a fellow Canadian andshe was on episode 88, doing it
(16:12):
Scared, imperfection and MentalHealth in Business with Anita
Kirkbride and can I just saythis was and remains one of the
top three most popular episodesof the podcast.
It was an incredibly raw,honest conversation between two
friends about the emotional andmental toll being an
(16:33):
entrepreneur can take.
So here's Anita.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
So your question was what do I want to be remembered
for?
And I've always thought that Iwanted to be remembered for
being a helper.
Wanted to be remembered forbeing a helper.
But I said that to anothercoach type person once and they
laughed and chastised me.
Because you just want to be ahelper, you just want to help
(16:57):
other people.
Don't you have a legacy youwant to build?
And I don't?
I'm not trying to cure canceror some other big world ill, I'm
trying to help people.
And why the fuck isn't thatenough?
Helping people is a good thing,so I want to be remembered for
(17:18):
how and how many people I wasable to help in this life.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
What can I say?
I've known Anita for years.
She is one of my day ones, shewas one of my very first clients
and then we became friends and,honestly, I am just constantly
in awe of her courage and herjust tenacity and her
unapologetic honesty.
And what I love about this isthat she is the epitome of
(17:52):
sometimes legacy isn't in thebig, bold moments.
It's in the small, consistentacts of generosity and care.
You build your legacy, like Isaid, every day, intentionally
or not.
You're building your legacyevery single day, in the actions
you take, in the lives youtouch, in the holding of space
for people who need it.
I've had several friends dothat for me, even in the past
(18:13):
couple of weeks, you know, justhelping me navigate my own
challenges and my own self-doubtand allowing me to reconnect
with the truth of who I am andthe stories that I want to tell,
and you know the legacy that Iwant to leave.
And so it's important tounderstand and remember that
legacy does not need to be grandor complex.
(18:36):
It can truly be deeply personaland still world-changing.
So if legacy feels likesomething that is too big for
you, let me ask what is onesmall act that you can do today
that contributes.
I want to share one more voicenote from my dear friend,
(18:57):
another Canadian and somebodywho actually only lives about 40
minutes away from me and westill haven't met in person.
Just saying Nikki McKnight.
Her episode is actually comingout next week.
She has the distinct pleasureand honor of being episode 101,
so stay tuned for that.
But when I asked Nikki what herlegacy was, what she wanted to
(19:20):
be remembered for, honestly, shedelivered a mic drop moment.
Speaker 6 (19:26):
Hey, it's Nikki McKnight, operations and systems
strategist at the Ops Shop.
I was reading a book recentlythat was talking about legacy
and, yes, it was a romance noveland it essentially said that
when you look back on a life,the more important part or the
more important point of view isthe overall picture and not the
(19:49):
individual tiles or pieces thatmake up that picture.
And this book said it's becauselife is too short to make every
moment poignant and it's toolong to make every moment
perfect.
So, whatever you do, for work,for fun, for hobbies, who you
loved, who you fought with, whoyou stood against, who you
(20:09):
championed, you're going to cry,you're going to laugh, you're
going to win, you're going tolose, you're going to do all of
those things and hopefully, whenyou step back, the overall
picture was beautiful.
So the legacy that I reallywant to leave, or the thing that
I want to be remembered for, isafter everything is said and
done, after the chips have beenplayed, the touchdowns have been
(20:33):
scored, the applause has beengiven, the tears have been shed.
What I want my legacy to be isthat, when we step back, my
picture is beautiful, I swear.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
I listened to that voice note and I got emotional
Hashtag team crybaby, right, youknow, this really brings the
conversation full circle, fromwhat we leave behind for others
to how we reflect on our ownjourney, right, like I said,
legacy is something that you areleaving every day, whether you
(21:06):
are doing it intentionally ornot, and it's not just about the
external impact, like, yes,legacy can be big, it can be
world changing.
It can be super impactful.
It can be something deeplypersonal.
It can be something that you dofrom behind the scenes for
other people.
It can be super impactful.
It can be something deeplypersonal.
It can be something that you dofrom behind the scenes for
other people.
It can be your own personaljourney.
It can be something that you dofor yourself, right, and it can
(21:26):
truly be also not aboutexternal impact.
It can be about innerfulfillment, and this is where
leadership, legacy, purpose,identity all of these things
intersect.
Whatever mark you want to makein the world, whatever you want
(21:48):
all of this to mean, whetherit's your personal life, whether
it's through business, whetherit's through the relationships,
you cultivate the stories youtell whatever you're leaving
behind.
You cultivate the stories.
You tell whatever you'releaving behind.
If you zoomed out and looked atyour life as a whole, would you
call it beautiful?
Would it reflect your values,your voice, your impact?
(22:09):
Because legacy isn't builtlater, it's not something that
you do after you've retired fromyour job or you've retired from
business.
It's built now.
It's built in intention, it'sbuilt in what you wake up every
morning wanting to do, and thispodcast is one of those things.
(22:34):
This started out as somethingthat you know some friends had
encouraged me to do because theyloved my rants and they were
like you should rant onmicrophone and I thought you
know that's great.
Yeah, it might be a great leadgen opportunity or something to
help, you know, with mymarketing and blah, blah, blah.
But as I really got into it, Irealized the impact it was
(22:56):
having on you, on everyone whotunes in every week to listen,
and the comments and thefeedback and the reviews are
proof that every week, I do mybest to say the things I know
people need to hear and thatthey sometimes want to say for
themselves, but just don't knowhow, or they're afraid, or
(23:18):
they're worried about what otherpeople will think, and all of
those are valid and legitimate.
And I see you and I hear you,and that's why I show up week
after week, because I know howcrazy this online business space
is, I know how entrepreneurshipcan be, and I just want you to
(23:38):
know every week that you are notalone, that there is somebody
who understands, and that's howI want to be remembered.
I want business blasphemy to bea small part of the legacy that
helped everybody who was a partof it feel like they belonged
(23:59):
to something.
Now, before I get all mushy andemotional, I would love for you
to head to the show notes andhit the link that says send me a
text or leave a comment ifyou're listening on Spotify, and
tell me how you want to beremembered.
I would love to highlight yourlegacy in a future episode.
(24:19):
Share it on my socials, youknow.
Just get it out there Because,honestly, more and more of us
need to be really invested inwhy we are doing this Not what
anybody else thinks we should bedoing this for, but why we
truly want to do it.
Because, like I say everyfucking week, you guys truly
want to do it.
(24:39):
Because, like I say everyfucking week, you guys, you can
have success without the BS, andthe success has to be your own.
Thank you for being here for100 episodes.
I love you, I'm grateful foryou and I will talk to you next
week.
That's it.
You next week.
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