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Carol Kabaale (00:00):
Hi there. My name
is Carol Kabaale. I am the
founder and CEO of Best Ads, andI am so excited to share with
you on today's episode, we aretalking all about you getting
over your fear of funnels. Howare we going to do this? By
creating a predictable pipelineof warm leads head on over to
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find out how
BEATE CHELETTE (00:23):
And hello,
fabulous person! Beate Chelette
here. I am the host of theBusiness Growth Architect Show
and I want to welcome you totoday's episode where we discuss
how to navigate strategy andspirituality to achieve time and
financial freedom. Trulysuccessful people have learned
how to master both a clearintention and a strategy to
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execute that in a spiritualpractice that will help them to
stay in alignment and onpurpose. Please enjoy the show
and listen to what our guesttoday has to say about this very
topic. Welcome back. BeateChelette here,the host of the
Business Growth Architect Showtoday with Carol Kabaale, and we
are going to tackle somethingthat you all know you need to
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do, and most of you really arenot, let's say really super
excited about it, and that'snurturing leads, getting leads,
finding leads, putting things ina pipeline or a funnel and how
to run them through while You'revery busy doing all your other
stuff, and I brought on Carol,because Carol is going to give
you some insights and differentpointers on how we can make this
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happen. Carol, I'm excited tohave you on the show. Welcome.
Carol Kabaale (01:33):
Thank you. Thank
you for having me. I think it's
going
BEATE CHELETTE (01:35):
to be a good
one. It's going to be great. So
especially talking about a topicthat you know we must, must
master, and we don't want to,because we rather do other
things, right? So for somebodywho's never heard of of you,
what do you do and what problemdo you solve for your clients?
Carol Kabaale (01:56):
So I help female
coaches service providers create
a pipeline of warm andpredictable leads, and I use and
I do it with the assistance ofmeta ads or Facebook ads. But
your
BEATE CHELETTE (02:10):
stuff is not
just for women. It works for
everybody, because we have ashow that goes to everyone.
Carol Kabaale (02:14):
I don't mind. I
like to work with women
personally. That's my personalthing. But this works for
anybody, whatever you want toidentify as it will work for
you. I promise, excellent.
BEATE CHELETTE (02:25):
So we just want
to make sure that nobody feels
excluded at the beginning of theshow. But I like that you
actually said I prefer workingwith women, because we also kind
of talk about this in thisparticular show, how to set a
preference of who you want towork with, and how to be
Unapologetic about it, which Ithink is also an important
topic. So thanks for giving methe lead right into this. What
is the issue that so many peoplehave with finding leads in the
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pipeline? We or are theremultiple issues? What is it that
makes it so difficult
Carol Kabaale (02:55):
for me? I think
the first issue is definitely
consistency we find ourselves. Ithink, as entrepreneurs, in most
of us in this season of I needto get clients. So you sell,
sell, sell, sell, sell, you.
Network, you show up, you do thethe emails, you do the stories,
you do, all your incomegenerating activities,
everything that you're meant tobe doing. And then you sort of
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get comfortable because you hita plateau of income, or you hit
your maximum numbers of clients.
And then for a while, you stopdoing those things. They're no
longer important. You're notcreating the content, you're not
showing up, you're notnurturing, you're not being
consistent, because you've hitthis target. And then some
people go away, and you startgoing like, Oh no, no, no, no.
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Then you start again. So it'slike, this fast and fathom,
like, you have a lot, and thenit's gone away, and then is you
have a lot, and then it's goneaway. I think if we were just
consistent every single day, andwe did a little bit every single
day to remain top of mind, wewould not run into this problem.
BEATE CHELETTE (03:54):
So what's my
mental issue with this? Like, I
mean, you say it like that, Iagree with you, and I'm going
like, yeah, she's completelyright. Why am I not doing it
Carol Kabaale (04:04):
for me
personally? When I looked at it
at myself, it was there was forme. It was a deserving thing. I
didn't feel like I deservedthose nice things, or I deserved
that income, or I deserved toreach those leaps and bounds,
and then it really took me doinga lot of mindset work on why?
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Why don't I think I deserve it,or maybe it was too easy, so it
became a thing of like, well, Ineed to work hard, and then I'll
feel happy about it. So I thinka lot of it is digging into
oneself to identify what isactually blocking you. And I
know that can feel easier tosome people, and you're like,
Oh, well, it's just this, buthonestly, you for me, it was a
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bandage. I had to just rip itopen and do it even when it felt
uncomfortable, and do it when Ididn't want to do it. But I do
do little things to trickmyself. Off into if it makes
myself feel better. So forexample, I also sometimes don't
like reaching out. I don't likestarting conversations. I don't
reply on Messenger. I'm notgreat at things like that. So
what I do is I do it first thingin the morning, so I get it over
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and done with, and thenafterwards, I spray some
perfume, because I'm a bigperfume girly, and I love the
smell of it, and I linger in it,and that brings me joy again.
And it makes me feel like, oh,that icky thing I didn't want to
do is knock on and then I go andhave a coffee, and then I come
back and I try again.
BEATE CHELETTE (05:30):
Oh, my God. It's
like, mus loves mus loves dogs,
right? So you're creating asense, sensory experience as a
reward for yourself. I've neverheard that before? I may just
try that myself. Oh, I love
Carol Kabaale (05:45):
perfume. I think
it just brings me back,
especially if you find one. Ican't even lie to you, look it's
like, literally on my desk. Ialways have a bottle of perfume
on my desk, and whenever I feela little bit off I associate the
feeling of the perfume with,like, happy memory. It just
instantly brings me back to mywhy, to my purpose, and it's
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just a quick little fix that Ido. Yeah, that
BEATE CHELETTE (06:09):
is amazing. I've
heard a lot of things. This is
not one of the things I've heardyet, but definitely worth a try.
So let's talk about the toughpart about this. Let's say I
know who my audience is, right?
So I've done my avatar, yes. Andnow I'm looking at this, and I'm
going like, I sort of know wherethey are. And now I need to
build my funnel. How do I goabout building a funnel? How do
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I go about building a pipelinethat has this consistency you
talk about.
Carol Kabaale (06:42):
So first of all,
I would say, pick one channel,
and when I mean a channel, Iwould say, if you're going to
choose Instagram, for example,commit to it for a certain
period of time. It can be 90days, it can be a year, it can
be longer than that, but youneed to commit to it so that you
can understand what works forthat channel and what doesn't.
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And within that channel, youdon't need to do all the
features. I mean, flip onInstagram. You can do like
Facebook, you can do stories,you can do carousels, you can do
images, you can do reels likethere's so many perfect one.
Choose one. And if you're likeme and you sometimes get bored,
be sneaky. Choose two. Butthat's okay, but the point is,
you're trying to choose one sothat you can see where the holes
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are in your funnel or yourcustomer journey. So usually,
let's say it was a story. Forexample, you post a story and
then you have a call to action.
Well, how many people actuallytook the call to action. They DM
you, or they clicked on thelink. They took the next step.
Once you have them there, youhave identified that that
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section of the funnel works forme. I'd like to say at least
five or 10 positive actions is agood indication, right? And then
you want to move to the nextstep. After they've clicked,
after they've DMed, what is yournext step? Where are you taking
them? Always asking them, why?
And being of service. Don't justsell. Please, don't just sell.
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It's so annoying. We get pitchedall the time. Like, Be of
service. Be intentional. If youcan help these people sort them
out into groups, like, segmentthem, and be like, Okay, this is
the solution. This is thesolution. Can I be of service?
That's where I believe in youshould come from. Then, once
you've done that, you identifythat conversation. If you've got
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a conversion so they've boughtyour thing, or they've taken you
up on that offer, you can seethat your funnel has now been
validated, right? Then I wouldsay, Great, let's work on
another aspect. But until you'vedone that truly, I don't think
you should move forward, becauseyou're kind of just throwing
spaghetti at the wall and hopingit fits. You know, if you can't
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tell me every time I make astory, this action is likely to
happen, then you really haven'tmastered that channel yet. I
love
BEATE CHELETTE (08:58):
that. I like
sort of the simplicity of it, if
I follow the big internetmarketers, because they've
perfected a system that worksfor them. So a Russell Brunson
or an Alex Hermozi or GrantCardone, all white men, yes, all
sort of have a similar feelabout it, right? Yes, about
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trying to get other white menwith a promise of little work, a
lot of money, just being bold,running around in a tank top, or
being on private planes andstuff like that, yeah, and so
that the Yeah, very, very bro,right? So it's being set up in a
particular promise, that if youfollow my system that works for
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me, that you also will besuccessful. What is the problem
that comes with that kind ofpromise that you see when they
come to you? Probably frustratedby the time they come Yeah, no,
Carol Kabaale (09:56):
by the time they
come to me, they're very
frustrated because they've triedeverything. Well, everything.
And now I'm here to say, okay,but let's take a deeper dive of
what you have. And very quicklyI can under I can identify that
they are holes in the system,like usually, there's not a next
step. Usually what they'regiving, because we're all told,
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give a value, create a leadmagnet, give this free me away,
give the stuff, and then peoplewill come what you're giving.
Sometimes it's not even a value,because you have the scarcity
mindset of, if I give them anactual solution, why will they
buy from me? I've heard plentyof my clients say that like, no,
no, we can't give them all thesteps. I'm not saying give them
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all the steps. I'm telling you,give them one step that's really
going to create change, that'sreally going to be of service,
and that in itself, will triggerthem to be like, Oh, my word. I
do have that problem. Let me seehow I can fix it. And Carol is
probably the person to help mewith it. I want you to create
that positive experience whenthey meet you, instead of what
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we are told, which is, sell tothem, sell to them, sell to
them. Don't let them leave. Bevery aggressive. Go with like,
negative things like, Oh, youprobably no. People buy from
people, and they buy when theywant to, not when you want. Have
you
BEATE CHELETTE (11:18):
seen Carol? Have
you seen that change. For me,
personally, I've seen thischange dramatically in the last
year, like all this. There'sonly two spaces left, and
everybody goes like, yeah,right. Or, you know, last chance
are we going to retire thisparticular version and then
it'll never come again, right?
Because if it sellssuccessfully, you're going to
retire what stupid stupidity isthat that's all just click bait,
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right? So have you seen this?
This change is the tone ofadvertising changing.
Carol Kabaale (11:48):
For me, I think
anybody who is heart centered,
anybody who is a person whowants to be of service in
whatever way, and you don't vibewith what we've just described,
leading with honesty, I feel hasthe best impact, because in a
world where everything is clickbased, and everything is like,
get rich quick, and whatever youbeing honest and being like,
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this is what I can actually helpyou with, and this is how I do
it, and this is how it can helpyou. I've seen that help so many
of my clients, without havingmillions of followers or without
having huge advertising budgets,by just staying in your lane and
being truthful. It's funny likeyou know that saying the truth
will set you free. It reallydoes.
BEATE CHELETTE (12:35):
We lost our our
home and my office burned with a
podcast studio in the Palisadesfire about two months ago, and
it's been an interestingjourney, because when you go
through a life changing,traumatic experience like this,
you know it looks like anapocalypse. You have to really
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think about what you value,because your time now is, I
mean, the time was alreadyconstrained before, but now with
other stuff, with insurances andwith rebuilding your lives and
finding your second pair ofpants and a second pair of
shoes. And what I have foundthat what you're talking about,
the honesty, is really somethinglike something's happening, and
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I can't even explain what it is.
So in your experience, what isit that's happening for me? I
can probably best explain itthat the burden or the magnitude
of this is so intense that it istoo big for me to carry. The
first time in my life I have toask for help. I have to ask for
my community. My community hasshown up. So if I formulaize
this in your system, right,what's happening here that we
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may be able to tell theaudience, well, don't wait until
you're in an apocalypse. But thewhat is it about this honesty
and how do I how do I becomehonest in this
Carol Kabaale (13:59):
Do you know that
word authenticity, or being
authentic was used very often,to the point that I think we
killed that word or we used itincorrectly, but I think people
are starting to wake up andactually reclaim that word and
actually to live in that Word.
The thing is, there's too muchsmoke and mirrors, and people
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are starting to see past it, andthe things that used to excite
people before, like, even if youthink about it in this way, like
when we were younger, we used toworship celebrities. Celebrities
have now been replaced withinfluences, and influences will
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one day be replaced with AIbots. We're turning into this
world where everything isshifting, but what stays the
same and what people are tryingto cling onto is some form of
truth, is some form of reality.
And it doesn't mean you need tohave the best of everything. It
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just needs you to show up asyour authentic self, not your
authentic self or the internet.
If your authentic self doesn'twear makeup, then don't wear
makeup. Your authentic selfdoesn't like to do their hair,
then don't do their hair. Formany years, I myself struggled
with this. I had a internetCarol, if you can call it that,
or Carol that would show up. AndI just don't see the point in
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that anymore. It's every day,and I I sympathize so much with
what you've gone through. I wentthrough not as terrible as
losing my home, but I wentthrough a home invasion, and I
was home alone, and there weremen in my house, and I survived
it, and I was unharmed, but inthat, I learned how fragile life
is and how we focus on thingsthat just don't matter. Being of
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service matters, helping peoplematters, and that's what I love
to do. I want to take the rightpeople and I want to amplify
them, because life is short.
BEATE CHELETTE (16:07):
You really don't
know, Wow, I'm so sorry you had
to go through that. I can't evenI can't even imagine it, but
it's absolutely true. Once yougo through a life changing event
like this, your whole viewpointchanges, because you realize
that if this particular scenariowouldn't have unfolded the way
it did, if just one tiny littlething would have changed, my
husband would have been the lastone with the garden hose on the
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roof, because he would havethought that he alone can save
the house, because that's justthe kind of person he is. Would
he even have made it out alive?
We don't know one of ourneighbors didn't make it. And we
think about these things asthese moments of it's almost
like a truth moment where you'rebeing shaken to the core. And
frankly, I see this everywhereright now. I see this with this
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ridiculous language that's beingused specifically in politics,
how people talk to each other,and then I see this massive
counter movement, specificallyon sub stack, which I'm obsessed
with now, because I feel thatthere are a lot more honest
conversations now that I've beenmissing. So the honesty you're
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talking about now, authenticity,or even the clarity who you are
today. So how do I drop the act?
How do I drop my own act? Ithink
Carol Kabaale (17:27):
you just have to.
So I would say, I think for noteverybody is going to be able to
just do it and and I don't wishanybody to go through anything
life changing as we have totrigger that awakening or that
sense of alignment. But what Ican say is I want you to sort of
try and trigger a safeexperience of that. I was
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watching a documentary, and itwas about dinosaurs, and don't
quote me on it, because I justwatch things, and then I don't
remember half of it, but Iremember the principle so the
lady was saying that thedinosaurs had been here for
like, let's say 30 years inhuman years, right? Obviously,
they were here for longer.
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Humans have only existed on thisplanet for like, less than a
minute in the entirety of theplanet. And if you think about
it that way. We are so minute,we are so insignificant, and if
we are so easily forgotten, thenwhat does it matter? What does
it matter if you show up andyour neighbor says something
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about you, or your mother sayssomething about you, or some
random person on the internettype something because they're
bored. It doesn't really matter,and because it doesn't matter,
that's why you should show up.
That's why you should live inyour authentic truth, whatever
it is for you, because itdoesn't matter whether you're
great or you're not great.
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People always have an opinion.
So kawati,
BEATE CHELETTE (19:03):
yeah, Tasha
Silver's book, it's not your
money, comes to mind, where shetalks exactly about that. She
says, Well, you're justborrowing it while you're here.
Yeah. The whole, the whole ideaof money is like you're just
borrowing it. So you create it,you spend it, you create it, you
spend it, and then you leave andyou take it, not with you. So
why are you stressing out overthis? And when you when you
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right, and then when you listento this, you go like, well, she
kind of does have a point. It'skind of an awkward point, but
there certainly is a point toit. So another thing that we
were hinting on earlier, which Ithink is important to talk
about, to look at the spiritualor the intuitive principles of
the show, you said, I prefer towork with women. And you said it
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in a in the beginning of a showthat's not specific for women,
that's a show for all businessowners and correct all in
everybody. How do you step into.
To this Unapologetic aspect ofthe clarity of this is who I
want to work with, and then ownthat.
Carol Kabaale (20:09):
For me, it was
trial and error in the beginning
of my business. So I've beendoing this for like, nine years
now, and in the beginning I saidyes to everything, because I do
believe that you should tryeverything at least once, within
reasons of your own boundaries.
But for me, my boundaries arepretty broad. Let's try
something at least once. And inthe beginning, I worked with a
lot of men, and I just alwaysfound that it was very much out
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of alignment for variousreasons. And a lot of it, I also
realized that was my own woundscoming through and projecting
themselves in the work. Myparents got divorced when I was
very young. I didn't really havemy dad around, and I just I have
friction with men, sometimes,not with my husband. I love him.
He's fine. He's one of the onesI've approved, but other men I
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have issues against, and that'sokay, that's my own personal
journey and things I need towork through. And it wasn't fair
for me to harbor that on myclients. And when I proposed
things and they were challenged,it felt like I had to defend
myself, and always felt like Ihad to be like er, and be tensed
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yet with my female clients, itfelt like we were all in the
sisterhood. We were all having agreat pajama party, and we were
the best of friends, as if we'veknown each other for years. And
a part of me was like, why am Iputting myself through this?
Like I have the best time withthese women and I'm just keeping
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these other male clients aroundfor the income. I was like, No,
there's always more money.
There's always more opportunity.
So I made a decision, and slowlybut surely, I started to
literally fire my clients. And Isaid, Hey, it's nothing
personal. I just can no longerbe of service to you. And I gave
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them all alternatives, andthey're all really happy with
the suggestions I made. So itwasn't like from a prejudice
place. I just felt like to be ofservice and to give them the
best of me. I couldn't do that.
So that's why I prefer to workwith women. And
BEATE CHELETTE (22:20):
I'm sure this
did not come without a lot of
sleepless nights and a lot ofsoul searching and fear and
anxiety. How long did it takeyou to step into this? Because
one of the spiritual principleswe talk about on our show a lot
is that there is every time youget to that next step, there is
friction. It has a lot of bumpsin it, is what I want to say,
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because you're being tested onwhether or not the Resolve is
really there, yep. How did youmanage that? Because I'm sure
you had to go back and forth acouple of times. Was there a
particular time frame? Anyadvice you can give us on when
it happened to say, Okay, thisis what to be expected. It's
happening right now go. So
Carol Kabaale (23:06):
I would say life
will give you the same situation
until you choose differently. Itwill always do that. Life will
always give you the samesituation, especially when it's
not for you until you choosedifferently. When I first made
this decision or this awakeningof like, Hey, I don't need to be
working with men. I found that Ionly had most of my income came
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from men. So, of course, I hadfear. I interpret fear in my
body as physical illness, like Iphysically get sick whenever I
am in a state of Growth. It'slike my body betrays me, like
you said, it's like a test, andit's because it's trying to keep
me safe. I had to learn thatit's like my body is trying to
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keep me safe from movingforward, so it self sabotages me
to stay that being said, whenyou see those things, they may
be different for you, butidentify what is the recurring
pattern, and when it happens,you really need to just step
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into your power. You need tojust be, Hey, I see this, I
acknowledge it, but I'm notgoing to choose this again. I'm
going to move past this. And itmay be so difficult because,
like you said, Life is testingyou, but you need to push
through. The only way you'regoing to get through it is to
push through. And it doesn'tmean you need to be at 100%
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every single day, moving even 1%My husband actually taught me
this. Gave me this great lesson.
There were days where I waslike, on the couch, and I just
like, was a starfish. I couldn'tmove, I couldn't be bothered. I
was so depressed. And my husbandwas just like, do what you need
to do, like the smallest littlethings and everything else will
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sort itself up. And that's whatI did. I showed up for my.
Clients and like the work thathad to be done and everything
else, I released, and I said,Nope. And then I did it again,
and I was able to do a littlebit more and a little bit more
till I got through it. I thinkconsistency, like I said in the
beginning, is really importanthere, because failure to choose
differently will result in thesame outcome. And that's not
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only in business. I have
BEATE CHELETTE (25:22):
the saying Kara,
where I say that the pain of
staying where you are has to begreater than your fear of
change. Oh,
Carol Kabaale (25:30):
yeah, that's a
good one that I'm wearing, but I
have goose bumps. Yeah, peoplesaying that you can
BEATE CHELETTE (25:38):
so if there's no
pain of you staying where you
are, there's no reason for youto change. We don't change when
we have a great day andeverything is going wonderfully.
That would be ridiculous. Itwould be counterproductive. But
when the pain is sitting heavyon our shoulders, we are moving
into a direction. And how didyou spiritually manage trust and
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faith in making this decisionand then sticking to it, because
I think that is a stickingpoint. How do I trust that this
is the right decision?
Carol Kabaale (26:12):
So for me, I feel
like that's been a hard one. I
constantly question myself afterI've made a choice, but I don't
let the fear of that control me.
Another thing that I don't do isI don't announce my moves or my
decisions. I used to be a personwho always needed to co sign
things, or whether it was myhusband or my friends or my
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girlfriend, like always runningit past someone. Sometimes you
just need to listen to thatlittle voice, or listen to your
gut. For me, it's in my gut. Ialways have this feeling right
here in my gut, and that littlefeeling when I trust it. Great
things have always happened whenI choose to ignore it.
Interesting things happened.
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Let's put it that way, and justremaining in your faith that
life wouldn't give you things ifthey weren't for you. Some
things are there, but everythingbut it wouldn't give you things.
You know, Christian people sayGod doesn't give you things that
you cannot handle. And I believethat to be very true. I do the
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universe and life would not giveyou the situation if it didn't
think you were capable enough ofchoosing differently, of staying
the course, of doing the work.
We're all human at the end ofthe day, it's a choice. So what
are you choosing? You've gottachoose it with all your heart.
Another thing that reallyanchored me is remembering my
why. My why is really big. Mywhy is choice. I've always
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wanted to have choice because ofthings that happened in my life
and because of the way I grewup. Other people always decided
for me, and I made a consciouschoice of that's not going to be
me. I refused that. No thankyou, and that being said, I
chase that, and I remind myselfall the time how grateful I am
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that I get to not have to go toan office, that I get to
sometimes just be here in myoffice in my pajamas, not today,
though, but other days, and it'sthat
BEATE CHELETTE (28:18):
big for dressing
up for us,
Carol Kabaale (28:22):
you're welcome.
It's that gratitude that reallycenters me. It's that gratitude
that reminds me, hey, this iswhy you're doing this, and it's
what keeps me going forward.
BEATE CHELETTE (28:32):
What a great way
to end our interview. Carol,
thank you so much for being hereand for somebody who now wants
to know how to overcome theirfear of funnels. Where do we
send them? How do they learnmore about you and how to work
with you?
Carol Kabaale (28:46):
So like I said
before we got here, everywhere
on the internet, my name is justCarol Kabaale. You can go and
find me, but if you areinterested in running ads to
amplify your message or reallyto find your people, I have a
great quiz. It's literally,like, two minutes long, and you
can take the quiz and it willtell you if you should be
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running ads and what to dobefore you run them. So, yeah,
take the quiz and find outbefore you spend your money.
BEATE CHELETTE (29:14):
I love that
wonderful Well, Carol, thank you
so much for being on the show. Ireally appreciate your insights,
and I always learned something.
I
Carol Kabaale (29:21):
love it. Thank
you so much for having me, and
thank you to your audience forjust receiving my message. I
appreciate it. Thank
BEATE CHELETTE (29:27):
you so much, and
that's it for us, for today.
Thank you so much for listeningto or watching this episode of
the business growth architectshow. We live at the
intersection of spirituality andstrategy, to really fuse the two
together. And you've heard itagain and again and again, when
you're living in purpose, nomatter what the execution of the
strategy is, when the inneraligns with the execution on the
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outer, you are going to be justso much more successful. Let's
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