January 24, 2024 • 25 mins
When life handed her lemons, Jenny Swain didn't just make lemonade—she built a lemonade empire. This week, we're honored to have Madison, Wisconsin's own realtor and breast cancer thriver share her transformative journey, a narrative that reshapes the fears and misconceptions of living with the disease. Her unflinching pragmatism and zest for life didn't just carry her through the trials of cancer; they propelled her into a new realm of empowerment and connection, shedding light on the personal battles and triumphs that so often go unspoken.
Baldness, societal expectations, and the emotional rollercoaster that accompanies breast cancer – Jenny tackles them all with a raw honesty that's as refreshing as it is heartrending. But her story isn't just about the struggle; it's a testament to the unique paths we walk and the individualized care that's crucial along the way. Her deep-seated mother-daughter relationship echoes the emotional reverberations that cancer brings, not just to the person it afflicts but to their loved ones, reminding us that the fight against cancer is a deeply shared experience.
As we wrap our heartfelt chat, Jenny's life post-diagnosis paints a portrait of true transformation. With her focus shifted from scaling the heights of the real estate world to savoring every precious moment with loved ones and engaging in soul-enriching hobbies, she exemplifies the art of thriving. Her dedication to mentoring, community volunteering, and embracing new passions is not just inspiring—it's a call to action for all of us to recognize that there is a rich life waiting on the other side of adversity. Join us for an episode that's not just a story, but a beacon of hope for anyone touched by breast cancer.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey there, friends, and welcome to Bussin' Out of
Breast Cancer, the podcast wherewe spotlight stories of
resilience, triumphant tenacityand growth beyond breast cancer.
I'm your host, shannonBurroughs not just a realtor,
but a living example of breakingthrough the chains of breast
cancer and emerging as a morevibrant and powered version of
myself.
As a driving force behindBussin' Out of Breast Cancer,
we'll go beyond the expectednarratives.
This isn't just a podcast.
(00:20):
It's a testament to thestrength within each of us.
Throughout our episodes, we'llnot only explore the incredible
stories of survivors, caregiversand healthcare champions, but
also delve into how I personallybusted out of breast cancer,
choosing the keys that led tonot just survival but true
thriving, shaping a betterversion of myself.
In the realm of real estate,I've understood the value of
location, a journey ofresilience and discovered the
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power of determination.
Together, we'll navigate thelandscape, providing not just
tales but tangible ways to riseabove adversity.
This is more than overcoming.
It's about transformation.
As we peel back the layers ofthese narratives, we'll uncover
the blueprint for breaking freefrom the constraints of breast
cancer and blossoming into aresilient, thriving existence.
So, whether you're a warrior inthe battle, a supporter on the
sidelines or someone seeking afresh perspective and becoming a
(01:02):
better version of yourself.
Bussin' Out of Breast Cancer isfor you.
This podcast isn't just atestament to survival.
It's a celebration of growth,where we explore how breaking
free can lead to life that's notjust lived but truly embraced.
I'm Shannon Brows, your guidethrough this journey of strength
and resilience.
This is Bussin' Out of BreastCancer.
Are you ready to thrive beyondbreast cancer?
Break barriers, build bridgesand become the best version of
yourself?
(01:23):
Well then, let's go, becausetoday we have on our podcast
Miss Jenny Swain.
She comes to us from Madison,wisconsin.
She also is a realtor, andyou're probably like why on
earth do you have anotherrealtor on your podcast when
you're a realtor and you'reshowcasing the same thing Jenner
Brows group and whatnot?
Because you know what?
It's not about me, it's notabout just Shannon Brows group.
It's about sharing and unitingas thrivers and being able to
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share our stories and have aplatform for that, because
cancer is not always a deathsentence, and that's what I love
about the story that you'regoing to hear from Jenny is
because she had those same exactfeelings and she came out even
stronger.
So welcome Jenny.
Thank you for joining us.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Thank you, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
I'm so sorry.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
I didn't talk so fast .
What I'm glad you talked fastif I do.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
I know, and it's so bad, I'm so sorry listeners.
I try so hard to not talk sofast.
That's like the New England tome and it's really, really bad.
But when I try to talk slow Ifeel like I'm special and so
blah, blah, blah.
So are you kind?
Speaker 2 (02:28):
of sending my friends high care.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Yeah, they're so cute .
You're a little koala andwhat's that other little guy?
A pop swap?
Oh, so cute, so cute.
So, jenny, tell us you are abreast cancer thriver and we
spoke briefly about your storyand I love is that you kind of
have the same mentality as me,is like, okay, well, we have a
(02:52):
diagnosis.
Like let's get through thisshit, you know, like let's go,
you know we'll be right on.
So tell me, when?
When did you, did you discovera lump?
When did you discover lump?
How did that happen?
Like, tell me about yourdiagnosis and all that.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
I had a bed in July of 2021 and I kind of stretched
and felt my armpit and I'm likehoney, is this normally here?
And he's like no, andimmediately freaked out.
We happened to be at our littlebeach house in Florida and,
ironically, a girlfriend wascoming down to join us who was a
breast cancer survivor recentlyand I'm like I'm gonna have Jen
(03:23):
and feel this.
Her name is Shannon too.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Oh funny.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
It wasn't me folks.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
By the way, it was not me.
Yeah, you weren't feeling myboobs.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
So pretty immediately we found out that it was indeed
cancer.
And you know just the worldwhen that comes with that.
And, like I was telling you,Shannon, I, you know, kind of in
my own little selfish worldmost days I think a lot of us
are, and you know, thingsoutside of my radar are outside
of my radar, including breastcancer.
(03:54):
I had never had a reason tothink about breast cancer and
I've seen all the pink ribbonsand the pink walks and the, but
I'm like, yeah, that's somebodyelse's problem and just never
really tuned into it.
And so when I was diagnosed Ithought and my family thought,
well, I'm probably going to dieand I will definitely lose my
(04:15):
boobs and I'm definitely lose myhair.
And so it was just kind of amoment where, like, times stood
still and my family freaked outat five adult sons and a very
sweet, emotional husband and itwas just like, okay, everybody
calm down, I might die and I'mnot dead yet.
So can we not grieve?
Speaker 1 (04:36):
though.
Enjoy me now.
What can we join me now?
And join me now, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
So the process was fascinating and I feel like
starting with that kind of worstcase scenario mindset really
helped me, because during myfirst appointments, first thing
she said was oh no, I don'tthink you're going to lose your
boobs.
I'm like I don't think I'mgoing to lose my boobs and then
she said no, I don't thinkyou're going to.
First of all, she said you'renot going to die.
(05:06):
Well, that's exactly what you'regoing to lose your hair, like,
really, like, my biggest concernis I didn't want to look sick,
I'm the breadwinner and I don'twant people to think that I'm
not working, like I couldn'thave them think I was working
and I intended to keep working,which I did, so anyways, it felt
(05:31):
like during my diagnosis theystarted giving me things back,
which was really empoweringbecause I'm like, oh well, now
it's not so bad and oh no, it'seven less bad.
So just follow through the stepsand you know, luckily with my
career, I could be flexible,with a million appointments and
and it really just I always sayI hate to downplay the whole
experience, but it just reallywasn't that bad for me and I
(05:55):
think I think, in short, all thepositives were way more than
the negatives for me in terms ofpersonal growth, family growth,
my ability to kind of mentorother ladies as they go through
this.
I mean, immediately you'reconnected with a bunch of other
people in your same spotFacebook groups and local groups
(06:16):
and it's it's such a strongcommunity of women, like it's
just, it's a really cool.
I don't see it's a fun club tobe a part of, but is it a fun
club to be a part of you knowlike it's very supportive.
The you know I mean it's.
You're in a unique life fordeath situation.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
You know so, anyways, you never want to be a part of
with the best members.
Yes for sure.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
So I just literally I luckily my treatment was
starting with surgery, which Idon't know why, and then,
actually the day before surgerywas scheduled, they discovered
another lump in my other breast,which I don't know why the hell
.
They weren't looking at myother boob this whole time,
right, but all of a sudden adifferent cancer was, even a
different makeup.
So the you know, all of youlistening would probably know
(07:05):
it's, it was, you know, adifferent.
I'll see what they are, butanyways, it's totally different
cancer in the other room.
Luckily it didn't change theschedule and we went ahead with
surgery the very next day.
So I started treatment withsurgery.
So essentially, by the time Iwas going through chemo and
radiation, I was already cancerfree physically, like it was, it
was taken out of me.
(07:26):
So I think that that was a.
I loved to start that waybecause I always feel like what
does it feel like when you stillhave that cancer in you and
you're going through oneradiation?
That would drive me nuts.
So obviously I didn't choose it, I didn't, wasn't consulted on
it, but I'm really, I reallyloved the way that that went in
retrospect.
So I was in a line where leftside was 2.7 centimeters ERPR
(07:51):
positive and her to negative.
A three centimeter tumor andone lymph node stage two B.
And then right side was 1.1centimeter ER positive PR, her
to negative, stage one.
So two different cancers, twodifferent boobs same time, which
is bizarre.
Obviously, one was probablythere longer, anyway.
(08:11):
So now I'm two years post andI'm still yeah, I'm still taking
the blood trizol, which is theoral chemo.
Obviously, I have zero sideeffects like none.
So, except in the ladydepartment, I should say sorry,
my phone is talking to us.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
The sexual life Is your life.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
So that's about it.
I mean, I really just I hate todownplay the, the seriousness
of it or the trauma of it,because there certainly was the
one.
The one time I cried was what?
The second chemo, having donethe cold capping, which meant I
wasn't going to lose my hair, itfell out anyways and I'm going
(09:00):
to clumps and the low part wasface down in my sink.
Well, my husband shaved my headand I'm like damn it, I didn't
want to be bald, you know.
And then it turned out to beawesome being bald.
Like, why can't we just fuckingbe bald?
There was no, like you're getout of shower and you're like
ready to go.
Like it was winter.
I just around a knit cap.
(09:20):
I bought these cool hat hairthings like baseball cap with
long hair.
It was awesome.
I didn't get one in a baseballcamp.
I don't know.
I'm going to be on the teambald women campaign because how
come guys can do it Right?
I was like I'll come, womencan't have hair anywhere else on
(09:40):
your whole body, but you got tohave it here or right here here
.
Like, like, how do we shave it?
Fuck it Everything anywhereelse.
Don't have it on your hoo-ha,don't have it on your arms or
your jeep, but you have to haveit here.
So, anyways, that wasfascinating concept.
That's funny.
It's like we're like q-tipswe're up, ground up, this little
(10:02):
fluff of hair on top of ourhead like whatever you know, and
then Are we trying to stay warm, like why do we have it?
It's weird.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
So you say that because it, like for some women,
like their hair defines them,you know for sure.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Well, think how much money we spend.
Like look in my bathroom, honey, like all this shit, I wouldn't
even need it back in there here.
Like we've made a color to curlit, to style it, to perm it, to
like how much money in ourpersonal budget is spent on and
we do it for each other, uswomen, like it's done.
So I just cut mine all offagain.
(10:37):
It had all the way long Ithought it was gonna be all
silver.
I wished it was all silver andit's not.
So that's adorable, it's.
I don't really care if it'sadorable or not, it's so much
easier.
I mean, I'm trying not to looklike too much, but that's so
cute.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
I know you say that you don't want to downplay your
cancer diagnosis and your cancerjourney and everybody's journey
is totally different and I feellike you and I can relate in
the sense of like, because Ialways say it's so happy I used
to bubbly, how do you say sopositive.
I'm like well, it's a choicenumber one.
Yeah, I choose happiness, Ichoose joy, I choose to be happy
like because tomorrow's neverpromised and today's fucking
amazing.
(11:14):
You know what I mean.
So let's make, let's make itgreat.
So I, my diagnosis was not thesame as yours.
You said you were stage 2b.
Oh yeah, to be on the left sideYep.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
and then what were you on the right To be in one a?
Speaker 1 (11:35):
and one a.
So DC is, but it was a superhigh grade, so my rate of
recurrence was super high, whichis why I went for the double
was active, because I wasn'tinterested in, you know, doing
this whole dance again.
Yeah, and I too only have likeone.
You know one, one reason forcrying, and that's because my
daughter was nine and at thatpoint she's a little snuggle
(11:56):
bunny and so when she would puther head on my chest I couldn't
feel it, and so that was likethe hardest part for me and like
I still talk about so I'llprobably get through this Really
fast.
I don't have to cry right now,but like that was hard because
I'd go through and feature ofher and so for me that was
really super emotional becauseI'm there's still that
attachment of like themother-daughter you know what I
mean.
Like you there's so much Icould kill it.
(12:17):
Like I don't care if I haveboobs or not.
I mean I do that just part ofus.
It's like hair right, right,but Knowing that, like I fed her
through my breasts and like wehave a connection as a
mother-daughter, and like shewould like to just put her head
on my chest and then when shewould hug me.
I couldn't like.
I feel like they're gonnadisconnect and that's what
really.
That's what makes me cry,that's what pisses me off about
it.
But I like to.
(12:38):
I like to do this podcast is toshare other people's journeys,
other opinions, because you know, even though you may have the
same exact diagnosis, you're notgonna have the same exact
treatment, which I always findinteresting, right, because it
always seems like doctors andthe medical profession so like
look at your diagnosis and thenthis is what we're gonna do to
fix it.
Like yeah, but like hi, I'm me,like you know what I mean, like
(12:59):
there's a lot of differentthings that go along with that.
So I find it interesting thatyou know, you did your your cool
cat first and then you did yourlump back to me and then you do
the treatment, whereas somepeople do the treatment first
it's trying to kind of minimizeit and then they threw into
treatment.
So it's very interesting.
I always like to hear different, different philosophies of you
know how they, how they tackle acancer.
How do they find that?
(13:20):
I lumped the day before thelump back to me.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
I was like did anyone look at my other boob?
Because it seems to me that weshould look at my other boob
like anyone, and so I mean Ithought that we did kind of, but
I felt like they were just kindof pushing that one aside,
because I felt it in the otherone I'm sure they looked at it,
but it's really hard to see andit was way under against my
breastbone.
(13:43):
But sure enough, it was frickingthere.
I'm like am I the doctor here?
So I mean they said, oh, itwould have probably been treated
with the radiation and thechemo anyways.
I'm like, yeah, but could wejust get that lump out of there,
like anyway?
So that's how I just said kid,did you look?
Could we look?
So, and honestly, I'm not adriver that way in terms of my
health.
(14:03):
I trusted them to be doing whatthey were doing.
But it just heard to me.
I'm like did we really examinethis other one?
So they couldn't believe it.
They're like and it's adifferent makeup, just a
different cancer.
So that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Well, and then to the point.
I'm always really pushing andreally saying you need to be
your own advocate for your ownhealth, right, because no one
else is going to do it for youand you would think that the
doctor would check both brasbecause you want to have a
baseline and just to confirm,like, ok, if you have one, like
you said, maybe they did, maybethey didn't, who knows.
But again to the point, be yourown advocate, right, right for
(14:39):
sure.
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Speaker 2 (14:53):
Right, thank you.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
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Speaker 1 (16:13):
Here we are, welcome back.
We have Jenny Swing here withus.
She is an amazing thriver herewho didn't take her diagnosis
lightly, but she did come outthriving and say, ok well, we
have a problem, fix it.
Now let's move on.
And she is probably one of theones that absolutely was not
opposed to losing her hair.
So figure that one out right.
I wasn't opposed to it, ithappened.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
I embraced it.
How about that?
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Yes, that's probably a better way to put it.
So welcome back, jenny, nowthat we are two years
cancer-free, congratulations.
What are you doing?
What are you doing with yourjourney?
Are you utilized to help usmove forward?
Do you do walks?
Do you get involved?
What do you do?
Speaker 2 (16:57):
I should say I don't do as much as I could or should.
As in most parents of my life,I would say personally I'm busy
appreciating my life and myrelationships and my family and
really focusing more on whatmatters than my career, which
for 32 years that's all I'vebeen is realtor Like.
(17:19):
Honestly, I'm like a paper doll, just a realtor, because I've
been the breadwinner.
So I'm working on enriching myown life with hobbies and things
.
That is, how am I supposed toretire if all I am is Jenny the
realtor?
Right?
But as far as giving back, Istay really involved in the
breast cancer Facebook groupslocally and nationally and
(17:41):
that's where I got most of mysupport and comfort and info was
literally from breast cancerFacebook groups, which was
perfect.
No doctors in there, just realtalk.
And then I think I told you Ihave an interview or one of two
training sessions tonight forABCD, which is after a breast
(18:01):
cancer diagnosis.
To be a little I don't knowwhat they call them peers or
something where women who arefirst diagnosed can talk to
somebody real and you mentionedthem kind of through their whole
journey.
So I'm excited about that, andthen what I really love, which
has nothing to do with it, butI'm for the last year.
I had to put this off because Iwas just diagnosed when I was
(18:23):
finally called after five years,as I'm a baby snuggler in the
NICU for preemies.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
So oh my gosh how does?
That happen.
You get on the waiting list.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
You have been years on the waiting list.
So, like I said, first therewas COVID, so we couldn't do it
then.
And then I got called anddiagnosed at like the first same
week.
I'm like, can I do it while I'mgoing through breast cancer
treatment?
They're like, yeah, no.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
So anyway, that was like why I got this.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
That was something to look forward to during my
treatment.
You know it's like come on,give me the babies.
So yeah, that's been really fun, but that's been so fun.
It's volunteer, but nothing todo with breast cancer, but I
appreciate it, I know.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
It's just like that's you back to the community,
right?
You're helping the littlebabies, For sure, yeah, for sure
.
The ABCD Mentoring orAmbassador, whatever it sounds
really fun, sounds amazing.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Yeah, have you done it Somebody?
Were you the one who did itSomebody?
Speaker 1 (19:25):
else said, you did it Once you were telling me about
that.
I looked it up and I had a darkhole and I was like, oh my god,
I could totally get in there.
Stop, Shannon, stop.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Well, I even asked her if there was such a thing as
being too positive with freshdiagnosis, because I'm like I'm
not a doctor, I don't know.
They might die, but I didn'tdie and so I don't know.
It'll be interesting.
I have two training sessions,so I'm sure I'll learn all of
that.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
That's fantastic.
Well, I can't wait to hear allabout that part of it, because
that sounds pretty awesome.
And just so the listeners know,you're in Madison, wisconsin,
right yeah, and you're a realtorthere and you service the.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Madison area.
Yeah, that's the thing theMadison, middleton, verona, all
the surrounding communities, but32 years in the street Crazy
how that goes, but that's goodthough.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
So what is the best way for P2P to find you?
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Jenny.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
Pardon me, I didn't know if it was social media or
email.
That's the best way for them.
Yeah, email is great.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Or yeah, email is great.
Really it's because I'mtransitioning to another company
, like the Dr Bell.
So Jenny at JennySwaincom is myemail.
It's Jenny with a Y, s-w-a-i-n,as in Nancy, yep.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Jenny Swain, jenny with a Y.
There are so many, I don't evenknow what your age is, but
there are.
So I feel like that was thepopular name growing up.
Jenny and Kelly, those are thenames I had in my school.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
When my, there was always five or six other Jennys
in my class and my, let's see,because it was the number one
girl's name.
But I also knew another,jennifer Lynn Meyer, which was
my maiden name.
I'm like, really Because, Meyer.
You know, meyer is obviouslycommon, but oh, funny.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
So quick question I have to do a little like
spitfire round at the end.
If you don't mind, Nothing tobe like worried about or
anything, just super fun.
What's your favorite color?
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Red because of my company.
Ok, and your?
What's your favorite beverage?
It used to be red wine, but I'mtwo months sober.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Oh good for you.
Is that because cancer?
Or just because you were likeokay.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Way past time, but yeah.
So now I would say my favoritebeverage is like a ginger beer
or something.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
A ginger beer.
Ooh, that was refreshing Evenin the cold weather.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Sure so let's get up.
Actually, we found we've beenworking on my husband quite too,
but we have all these awesomeNA options.
Who knew?
There's whole walls full in theliquor store now?
But we found one that's like agin and tonic.
That's so good and I just pourit all the way up to the top
with some ice and just sip offthe top Tastes exactly like a
cocktail.
(22:24):
It's really good.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Well, that's good Favorite book.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Oh, my lord, Well, eat, pray, love, but I haven't
read it in many, many years, andnow I've had.
Oh, how about Layla?
Is that the name of it?
Layla, colleen, hooper orColleen?
Is that what it's called?
Layla?
It's just like a thriller.
I've been starting to read alot more and listening to
podcasts, as I'm not podcasts,but listening to books as I'm
(22:50):
crafting, which I'm doing littlestained glass, flowers and
things.
Oh nice, yeah, it's super fun.
So I have a big studio set upin my house and, yeah, so I
listen to books while I'mcrafting, completely out of my
whatever normal routine, and allof that is to help stop
drinking too.
You know, you got to changethings up.
You'll be busy.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Congratulations, and the last one is your favorite
restaurant In Madison.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
I don't know.
My husbands are really goodcooks so we rarely go out to eat
Like, honestly, we got to eatand we're like, oh, we should
have.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Yeah, yeah, right.
Well, not only that, it's soexpensive.
Now, all right, favorite foodor meal.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
What's your favorite thing he cooks?
He cooks something differentevery single night.
I would say anything likecolubi apary pasta or anything
like that.
I would say he makes so manyyummy things, I don't know.
Lucky you.
Yeah, I know it's awesome.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
And because he cooks, he also grocery shops.
You have a maid.
It is a total win.
And one last question.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
What's one piece of advice that you would give to
listeners that are newlydiagnosed?
Have your questions ready.
Okay, if they are variable.
In most cases breast cancertreatment has come so far and
look around, there's so manysurvivors.
I mean, you wouldn't believe ifyou just opened your eyes.
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You wouldn't believe how manywomen you already know that have
survived breast cancer.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Yeah, like you said, it's a club, and I always say
it's a club you never want to bea part of, but it has the best
members.
It does yeah, it does Well.
Thank you so much, jenny, andthank you listeners, thank you
my resilient friends and a bitof a bustin of breast cancer.
We trust that our journeythrough stories of triumph,
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Hey there, friends, and welcome to Bussin' Out of
Breast Cancer, the podcast wherewe spotlight stories of
resilience, triumphant tenacityand growth beyond breast cancer.
I'm your host, shannonBurroughs not just a realtor,
but a living example of breakingthrough the chains of breast
cancer and emerging as a morevibrant and powered version of
myself.
As a driving force behindBussin' Out of Breast Cancer,
we'll go beyond the expectednarratives.
This isn't just a podcast.
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It's a testament to thestrength within each of us.
Throughout our episodes, we'llnot only explore the incredible
stories of survivors, caregiversand healthcare champions, but
also delve into how I personallybusted out of breast cancer,
choosing the keys that led tonot just survival but true
thriving, shaping a betterversion of myself.
In the realm of real estate,I've understood the value of
location, a journey ofresilience and discovered the
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power of determination.
Together, we'll navigate thelandscape, providing not just
tales but tangible ways to riseabove adversity.
This is more than overcoming.
It's about transformation.
As we peel back the layers ofthese narratives, we'll uncover
the blueprint for breaking freefrom the constraints of breast
cancer and blossoming into aresilient, thriving existence.
So, whether you're a warrior inthe battle, a supporter on the
sidelines or someone seeking afresh perspective and becoming a
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better version of yourself.
Bussin' Out of Breast Cancer isfor you.
This podcast isn't just atestament to survival.
It's a celebration of growth,where we explore how breaking
free can lead to life that's notjust lived but truly embraced.
I'm Shannon Brows, your guidethrough this journey of strength
and resilience.
This is Bussin' Out of BreastCancer.
Are you ready to thrive beyondbreast cancer?
Break barriers, build bridgesand become the best version of
yourself?
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Well then, let's go, becausetoday we have on our podcast
Miss Jenny Swain.
She comes to us from Madison,wisconsin.
She also is a realtor, andyou're probably like why on
earth do you have anotherrealtor on your podcast when
you're a realtor and you'reshowcasing the same thing Jenner
Brows group and whatnot?
Because you know what?
It's not about me, it's notabout just Shannon Brows group.
It's about sharing and unitingas thrivers and being able to
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share our stories and have aplatform for that, because
cancer is not always a deathsentence, and that's what I love
about the story that you'regoing to hear from Jenny is
because she had those same exactfeelings and she came out even
stronger.
So welcome Jenny.
Thank you for joining us.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Thank you, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
I'm so sorry.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
I didn't talk so fast .
What I'm glad you talked fastif I do.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
I know, and it's so bad, I'm so sorry listeners.
I try so hard to not talk sofast.
That's like the New England tome and it's really, really bad.
But when I try to talk slow Ifeel like I'm special and so
blah, blah, blah.
So are you kind?
Speaker 2 (02:28):
of sending my friends high care.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Yeah, they're so cute .
You're a little koala andwhat's that other little guy?
A pop swap?
Oh, so cute, so cute.
So, jenny, tell us you are abreast cancer thriver and we
spoke briefly about your storyand I love is that you kind of
have the same mentality as me,is like, okay, well, we have a
(02:52):
diagnosis.
Like let's get through thisshit, you know, like let's go,
you know we'll be right on.
So tell me, when?
When did you, did you discovera lump?
When did you discover lump?
How did that happen?
Like, tell me about yourdiagnosis and all that.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
I had a bed in July of 2021 and I kind of stretched
and felt my armpit and I'm likehoney, is this normally here?
And he's like no, andimmediately freaked out.
We happened to be at our littlebeach house in Florida and,
ironically, a girlfriend wascoming down to join us who was a
breast cancer survivor recentlyand I'm like I'm gonna have Jen
(03:23):
and feel this.
Her name is Shannon too.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Oh funny.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
It wasn't me folks.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
By the way, it was not me.
Yeah, you weren't feeling myboobs.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
So pretty immediately we found out that it was indeed
cancer.
And you know just the worldwhen that comes with that.
And, like I was telling you,Shannon, I, you know, kind of in
my own little selfish worldmost days I think a lot of us
are, and you know, thingsoutside of my radar are outside
of my radar, including breastcancer.
(03:54):
I had never had a reason tothink about breast cancer and
I've seen all the pink ribbonsand the pink walks and the, but
I'm like, yeah, that's somebodyelse's problem and just never
really tuned into it.
And so when I was diagnosed Ithought and my family thought,
well, I'm probably going to dieand I will definitely lose my
(04:15):
boobs and I'm definitely lose myhair.
And so it was just kind of amoment where, like, times stood
still and my family freaked outat five adult sons and a very
sweet, emotional husband and itwas just like, okay, everybody
calm down, I might die and I'mnot dead yet.
So can we not grieve?
Speaker 1 (04:36):
though.
Enjoy me now.
What can we join me now?
And join me now, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
So the process was fascinating and I feel like
starting with that kind of worstcase scenario mindset really
helped me, because during myfirst appointments, first thing
she said was oh no, I don'tthink you're going to lose your
boobs.
I'm like I don't think I'mgoing to lose my boobs and then
she said no, I don't thinkyou're going to.
First of all, she said you'renot going to die.
(05:06):
Well, that's exactly what you'regoing to lose your hair, like,
really, like, my biggest concernis I didn't want to look sick,
I'm the breadwinner and I don'twant people to think that I'm
not working, like I couldn'thave them think I was working
and I intended to keep working,which I did, so anyways, it felt
(05:31):
like during my diagnosis theystarted giving me things back,
which was really empoweringbecause I'm like, oh well, now
it's not so bad and oh no, it'seven less bad.
So just follow through the stepsand you know, luckily with my
career, I could be flexible,with a million appointments and
and it really just I always sayI hate to downplay the whole
experience, but it just reallywasn't that bad for me and I
(05:55):
think I think, in short, all thepositives were way more than
the negatives for me in terms ofpersonal growth, family growth,
my ability to kind of mentorother ladies as they go through
this.
I mean, immediately you'reconnected with a bunch of other
people in your same spotFacebook groups and local groups
(06:16):
and it's it's such a strongcommunity of women, like it's
just, it's a really cool.
I don't see it's a fun club tobe a part of, but is it a fun
club to be a part of you knowlike it's very supportive.
The you know I mean it's.
You're in a unique life fordeath situation.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
You know so, anyways, you never want to be a part of
with the best members.
Yes for sure.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
So I just literally I luckily my treatment was
starting with surgery, which Idon't know why, and then,
actually the day before surgerywas scheduled, they discovered
another lump in my other breast,which I don't know why the hell
.
They weren't looking at myother boob this whole time,
right, but all of a sudden adifferent cancer was, even a
different makeup.
So the you know, all of youlistening would probably know
(07:05):
it's, it was, you know, adifferent.
I'll see what they are, butanyways, it's totally different
cancer in the other room.
Luckily it didn't change theschedule and we went ahead with
surgery the very next day.
So I started treatment withsurgery.
So essentially, by the time Iwas going through chemo and
radiation, I was already cancerfree physically, like it was, it
was taken out of me.
(07:26):
So I think that that was a.
I loved to start that waybecause I always feel like what
does it feel like when you stillhave that cancer in you and
you're going through oneradiation?
That would drive me nuts.
So obviously I didn't choose it, I didn't, wasn't consulted on
it, but I'm really, I reallyloved the way that that went in
retrospect.
So I was in a line where leftside was 2.7 centimeters ERPR
(07:51):
positive and her to negative.
A three centimeter tumor andone lymph node stage two B.
And then right side was 1.1centimeter ER positive PR, her
to negative, stage one.
So two different cancers, twodifferent boobs same time, which
is bizarre.
Obviously, one was probablythere longer, anyway.
(08:11):
So now I'm two years post andI'm still yeah, I'm still taking
the blood trizol, which is theoral chemo.
Obviously, I have zero sideeffects like none.
So, except in the ladydepartment, I should say sorry,
my phone is talking to us.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
The sexual life Is your life.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
So that's about it.
I mean, I really just I hate todownplay the, the seriousness
of it or the trauma of it,because there certainly was the
one.
The one time I cried was what?
The second chemo, having donethe cold capping, which meant I
wasn't going to lose my hair, itfell out anyways and I'm going
(09:00):
to clumps and the low part wasface down in my sink.
Well, my husband shaved my headand I'm like damn it, I didn't
want to be bald, you know.
And then it turned out to beawesome being bald.
Like, why can't we just fuckingbe bald?
There was no, like you're getout of shower and you're like
ready to go.
Like it was winter.
I just around a knit cap.
(09:20):
I bought these cool hat hairthings like baseball cap with
long hair.
It was awesome.
I didn't get one in a baseballcamp.
I don't know.
I'm going to be on the teambald women campaign because how
come guys can do it Right?
I was like I'll come, womencan't have hair anywhere else on
(09:40):
your whole body, but you got tohave it here or right here here
.
Like, like, how do we shave it?
Fuck it Everything anywhereelse.
Don't have it on your hoo-ha,don't have it on your arms or
your jeep, but you have to haveit here.
So, anyways, that wasfascinating concept.
That's funny.
It's like we're like q-tipswe're up, ground up, this little
(10:02):
fluff of hair on top of ourhead like whatever you know, and
then Are we trying to stay warm, like why do we have it?
It's weird.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
So you say that because it, like for some women,
like their hair defines them,you know for sure.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Well, think how much money we spend.
Like look in my bathroom, honey, like all this shit, I wouldn't
even need it back in there here.
Like we've made a color to curlit, to style it, to perm it, to
like how much money in ourpersonal budget is spent on and
we do it for each other, uswomen, like it's done.
So I just cut mine all offagain.
(10:37):
It had all the way long Ithought it was gonna be all
silver.
I wished it was all silver andit's not.
So that's adorable, it's.
I don't really care if it'sadorable or not, it's so much
easier.
I mean, I'm trying not to looklike too much, but that's so
cute.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
I know you say that you don't want to downplay your
cancer diagnosis and your cancerjourney and everybody's journey
is totally different and I feellike you and I can relate in
the sense of like, because Ialways say it's so happy I used
to bubbly, how do you say sopositive.
I'm like well, it's a choicenumber one.
Yeah, I choose happiness, Ichoose joy, I choose to be happy
like because tomorrow's neverpromised and today's fucking
amazing.
(11:14):
You know what I mean.
So let's make, let's make itgreat.
So I, my diagnosis was not thesame as yours.
You said you were stage 2b.
Oh yeah, to be on the left sideYep.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
and then what were you on the right To be in one a?
Speaker 1 (11:35):
and one a.
So DC is, but it was a superhigh grade, so my rate of
recurrence was super high, whichis why I went for the double
was active, because I wasn'tinterested in, you know, doing
this whole dance again.
Yeah, and I too only have likeone.
You know one, one reason forcrying, and that's because my
daughter was nine and at thatpoint she's a little snuggle
(11:56):
bunny and so when she would puther head on my chest I couldn't
feel it, and so that was likethe hardest part for me and like
I still talk about so I'llprobably get through this Really
fast.
I don't have to cry right now,but like that was hard because
I'd go through and feature ofher and so for me that was
really super emotional becauseI'm there's still that
attachment of like themother-daughter you know what I
mean.
Like you there's so much Icould kill it.
(12:17):
Like I don't care if I haveboobs or not.
I mean I do that just part ofus.
It's like hair right, right,but Knowing that, like I fed her
through my breasts and like wehave a connection as a
mother-daughter, and like shewould like to just put her head
on my chest and then when shewould hug me.
I couldn't like.
I feel like they're gonnadisconnect and that's what
really.
That's what makes me cry,that's what pisses me off about
it.
But I like to.
(12:38):
I like to do this podcast is toshare other people's journeys,
other opinions, because you know, even though you may have the
same exact diagnosis, you're notgonna have the same exact
treatment, which I always findinteresting, right, because it
always seems like doctors andthe medical profession so like
look at your diagnosis and thenthis is what we're gonna do to
fix it.
Like yeah, but like hi, I'm me,like you know what I mean, like
(12:59):
there's a lot of differentthings that go along with that.
So I find it interesting thatyou know, you did your your cool
cat first and then you did yourlump back to me and then you do
the treatment, whereas somepeople do the treatment first
it's trying to kind of minimizeit and then they threw into
treatment.
So it's very interesting.
I always like to hear different, different philosophies of you
know how they, how they tackle acancer.
How do they find that?
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I lumped the day before thelump back to me.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
I was like did anyone look at my other boob?
Because it seems to me that weshould look at my other boob
like anyone, and so I mean Ithought that we did kind of, but
I felt like they were just kindof pushing that one aside,
because I felt it in the otherone I'm sure they looked at it,
but it's really hard to see andit was way under against my
breastbone.
(13:43):
But sure enough, it was frickingthere.
I'm like am I the doctor here?
So I mean they said, oh, itwould have probably been treated
with the radiation and thechemo anyways.
I'm like, yeah, but could wejust get that lump out of there,
like anyway?
So that's how I just said kid,did you look?
Could we look?
So, and honestly, I'm not adriver that way in terms of my
health.
(14:03):
I trusted them to be doing whatthey were doing.
But it just heard to me.
I'm like did we really examinethis other one?
So they couldn't believe it.
They're like and it's adifferent makeup, just a
different cancer.
So that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Well, and then to the point.
I'm always really pushing andreally saying you need to be
your own advocate for your ownhealth, right, because no one
else is going to do it for youand you would think that the
doctor would check both brasbecause you want to have a
baseline and just to confirm,like, ok, if you have one, like
you said, maybe they did, maybethey didn't, who knows.
But again to the point, be yourown advocate, right, right for
(14:39):
sure.
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Speaker 2 (14:53):
Right, thank you.
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Speaker 1 (16:13):
Here we are, welcome back.
We have Jenny Swing here withus.
She is an amazing thriver herewho didn't take her diagnosis
lightly, but she did come outthriving and say, ok well, we
have a problem, fix it.
Now let's move on.
And she is probably one of theones that absolutely was not
opposed to losing her hair.
So figure that one out right.
I wasn't opposed to it, ithappened.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
I embraced it.
How about that?
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Yes, that's probably a better way to put it.
So welcome back, jenny, nowthat we are two years
cancer-free, congratulations.
What are you doing?
What are you doing with yourjourney?
Are you utilized to help usmove forward?
Do you do walks?
Do you get involved?
What do you do?
Speaker 2 (16:57):
I should say I don't do as much as I could or should.
As in most parents of my life,I would say personally I'm busy
appreciating my life and myrelationships and my family and
really focusing more on whatmatters than my career, which
for 32 years that's all I'vebeen is realtor Like.
(17:19):
Honestly, I'm like a paper doll, just a realtor, because I've
been the breadwinner.
So I'm working on enriching myown life with hobbies and things
.
That is, how am I supposed toretire if all I am is Jenny the
realtor?
Right?
But as far as giving back, Istay really involved in the
breast cancer Facebook groupslocally and nationally and
(17:41):
that's where I got most of mysupport and comfort and info was
literally from breast cancerFacebook groups, which was
perfect.
No doctors in there, just realtalk.
And then I think I told you Ihave an interview or one of two
training sessions tonight forABCD, which is after a breast
(18:01):
cancer diagnosis.
To be a little I don't knowwhat they call them peers or
something where women who arefirst diagnosed can talk to
somebody real and you mentionedthem kind of through their whole
journey.
So I'm excited about that, andthen what I really love, which
has nothing to do with it, butI'm for the last year.
I had to put this off because Iwas just diagnosed when I was
(18:23):
finally called after five years,as I'm a baby snuggler in the
NICU for preemies.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
So oh my gosh how does?
That happen.
You get on the waiting list.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
You have been years on the waiting list.
So, like I said, first therewas COVID, so we couldn't do it
then.
And then I got called anddiagnosed at like the first same
week.
I'm like, can I do it while I'mgoing through breast cancer
treatment?
They're like, yeah, no.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
So anyway, that was like why I got this.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
That was something to look forward to during my
treatment.
You know it's like come on,give me the babies.
So yeah, that's been really fun, but that's been so fun.
It's volunteer, but nothing todo with breast cancer, but I
appreciate it, I know.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
It's just like that's you back to the community,
right?
You're helping the littlebabies, For sure, yeah, for sure
.
The ABCD Mentoring orAmbassador, whatever it sounds
really fun, sounds amazing.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Yeah, have you done it Somebody?
Were you the one who did itSomebody?
Speaker 1 (19:25):
else said, you did it Once you were telling me about
that.
I looked it up and I had a darkhole and I was like, oh my god,
I could totally get in there.
Stop, Shannon, stop.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Well, I even asked her if there was such a thing as
being too positive with freshdiagnosis, because I'm like I'm
not a doctor, I don't know.
They might die, but I didn'tdie and so I don't know.
It'll be interesting.
I have two training sessions,so I'm sure I'll learn all of
that.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
That's fantastic.
Well, I can't wait to hear allabout that part of it, because
that sounds pretty awesome.
And just so the listeners know,you're in Madison, wisconsin,
right yeah, and you're a realtorthere and you service the.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Madison area.
Yeah, that's the thing theMadison, middleton, verona, all
the surrounding communities, but32 years in the street Crazy
how that goes, but that's goodthough.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
So what is the best way for P2P to find you?
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Jenny.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
Pardon me, I didn't know if it was social media or
email.
That's the best way for them.
Yeah, email is great.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Or yeah, email is great.
Really it's because I'mtransitioning to another company
, like the Dr Bell.
So Jenny at JennySwaincom is myemail.
It's Jenny with a Y, s-w-a-i-n,as in Nancy, yep.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Jenny Swain, jenny with a Y.
There are so many, I don't evenknow what your age is, but
there are.
So I feel like that was thepopular name growing up.
Jenny and Kelly, those are thenames I had in my school.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
When my, there was always five or six other Jennys
in my class and my, let's see,because it was the number one
girl's name.
But I also knew another,jennifer Lynn Meyer, which was
my maiden name.
I'm like, really Because, Meyer.
You know, meyer is obviouslycommon, but oh, funny.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
So quick question I have to do a little like
spitfire round at the end.
If you don't mind, Nothing tobe like worried about or
anything, just super fun.
What's your favorite color?
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Red because of my company.
Ok, and your?
What's your favorite beverage?
It used to be red wine, but I'mtwo months sober.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Oh good for you.
Is that because cancer?
Or just because you were likeokay.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Way past time, but yeah.
So now I would say my favoritebeverage is like a ginger beer
or something.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
A ginger beer.
Ooh, that was refreshing Evenin the cold weather.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Sure so let's get up.
Actually, we found we've beenworking on my husband quite too,
but we have all these awesomeNA options.
Who knew?
There's whole walls full in theliquor store now?
But we found one that's like agin and tonic.
That's so good and I just pourit all the way up to the top
with some ice and just sip offthe top Tastes exactly like a
cocktail.
(22:24):
It's really good.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Well, that's good Favorite book.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Oh, my lord, Well, eat, pray, love, but I haven't
read it in many, many years, andnow I've had.
Oh, how about Layla?
Is that the name of it?
Layla, colleen, hooper orColleen?
Is that what it's called?
Layla?
It's just like a thriller.
I've been starting to read alot more and listening to
podcasts, as I'm not podcasts,but listening to books as I'm
(22:50):
crafting, which I'm doing littlestained glass, flowers and
things.
Oh nice, yeah, it's super fun.
So I have a big studio set upin my house and, yeah, so I
listen to books while I'mcrafting, completely out of my
whatever normal routine, and allof that is to help stop
drinking too.
You know, you got to changethings up.
You'll be busy.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Congratulations, and the last one is your favorite
restaurant In Madison.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
I don't know.
My husbands are really goodcooks so we rarely go out to eat
Like, honestly, we got to eatand we're like, oh, we should
have.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Yeah, yeah, right.
Well, not only that, it's soexpensive.
Now, all right, favorite foodor meal.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
What's your favorite thing he cooks?
He cooks something differentevery single night.
I would say anything likecolubi apary pasta or anything
like that.
I would say he makes so manyyummy things, I don't know.
Lucky you.
Yeah, I know it's awesome.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
And because he cooks, he also grocery shops.
You have a maid.
It is a total win.
And one last question.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
What's one piece of advice that you would give to
listeners that are newlydiagnosed?
Have your questions ready.
Okay, if they are variable.
In most cases breast cancertreatment has come so far and
look around, there's so manysurvivors.
I mean, you wouldn't believe ifyou just opened your eyes.
(24:22):
You wouldn't believe how manywomen you already know that have
survived breast cancer.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Yeah, like you said, it's a club, and I always say
it's a club you never want to bea part of, but it has the best
members.
It does yeah, it does Well.
Thank you so much, jenny, andthank you listeners, thank you
my resilient friends and a bitof a bustin of breast cancer.
We trust that our journeythrough stories of triumph,
resilience and growth has leftyou informed, uplifted and
inspired.
Remember, you're not alonefighting against breast cancer.
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If you or someone you knowneeds support, reach out to a
healthcare professional, abreast cancer support
organization or me.
I'm always here to listen, chatand offer support.
Early detection is the key, soplease prioritize your regular
cancer trainings and if you'rein the market for a new home,
looking to sell or ready toinvest, don't hesitate to
contact me, your favorite fun,resilient Realtor and podcast
host.
Together, we can make your realestate dreams a reality while
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making a difference in theongoing fight against breast
cancer.
If you or someone you knowwould like to share their
journey as a guest on ourpodcast, reach out to us at
smile at ShannonBroscom.
Your stories matter and theyhave the power to inspire
countless others.
Thank you again for lending usyour ears and for being a part
of this community.
We look forward to reconnectingwith you next week on another
episode of Bustin' Out of BreastCancer, where, together, we'll
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Until then, stay resilient,stay inspired and keep thriving.
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