April 8, 2024 • 44 mins
In this laughter-packed episode of "Buzzed and Balanced," hosts Colt and Connor, along with their uniquely wonderful landlords-turned-friends Kasey and Bri, dive into a riotous recount of their intertwined lives, sharing everything from their not-so-conventional landlord-tenant relationship to the whirlwinds of love, advocacy, and occasional mayhem. Their conversations twist through tales of impromptu love stories and the birth of "Hurricane Kasey," to more profound discussions on facing discrimination and making a tangible impact on LGBTQ+ rights, all while maintaining an atmosphere of camaraderie and hilarity. It’s an episode that perfectly encapsulates the essence of friendship, resilience, and the ability to laugh through life’s chaos, leaving listeners both enlightened and thoroughly entertained.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Welcome to Buzzed and Balanced, your favorite podcast
, where your make-believefriends us tell you about life
and help you get through all thefucked up times.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
I'm Colt and I'm Connor, and today we have some
very special guests, mylandlords.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Hi, I'm Casey and I'm Brie.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Welcome.
I'm so excited that y'all arehere today landlords are so
excited to have um yes um thenice kind.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
It's not.
It's not the first time thatbrie and casey are my landlords
yes, well, we don't charge him.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
Like market rent, true, like well, under market
rent.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
We don't have to market rent, true, well under
market rent.
We don't have to tell peoplethat.
No, we will not tell the price.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
But here we are.
I don't know, I was going tothink of something inappropriate
.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
It's $525,600 a month .
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Yes, I make a lot of money.
I sell clothing for a livingClothing, and he has an OnlyFans
.
That's where he makes the moneyyeah, it's just just of my
thighs yeah, his thighs arelegendary, that's what I've been
told they have their owntwitter account.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
I am.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
I'm actually wearing pants today for the first time
in a long time so well.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
So he says, we don't know but here we are.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Okay.
Well, col, do you want to startus?
Speaker 3 (01:24):
off.
We didn't even mention Meg.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Sorry guys, meg is not here today.
She is a little under theweather, so we decided to give
it a shot.
This might suck ass without Meg, because she is the go-to.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
She's our moderator.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
But we're trying it without her.
So everyone, please wish Meg aspeedy recovery and we'll see
her on the next episode.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
We love you Meg.
I do want to say, though, thatwe have.
You know, as this is buzzed andbalanced, we decided to go to a
bar before this.
We are a little buzzed andbalanced, so maybe we should
start off by saying I amdrinking a simply spiked
blueberry lemonade.
(02:04):
I am drinking a simply spikedblueberry lemonade.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
I'm drinking a water.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Only because he has to drive to go pick his
boyfriend up at the airport.
Casey, what are you drinking?
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Just water, really?
No, I'm just kidding.
I'm not drinking only water,I'm drinking a simply spiked
lemonade strawberry.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Y'all already know I'm bringing a Bud Light.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Bud Light saves lives .
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Thank God, I had an emergency Bud Light on deck.
It's called Bree's EmergencyBud Light.
We have to pop it out everytime.
If she happens to stop by.
It's critical, we have it.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
It's written in Connor's lease.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
It is I have to supply it.
So downstairs, where I live, wehave a fridge, the garage
fridge, which is my fridge, andit has to be stocked at all
times with Bud Light.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
You also mentioned that in your best man speech at
our wedding.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
I did, and the fact that we couldn't even have Bud
Light on the premises of y'all'swedding.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
That sounds like bullshit to me.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
I mean they had a different supplier.
It was a whole thing.
We almost had to drink a localbeer Between my wife and my
father.
It was a whole thing.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Well, talking about marriage, you guys kind of have
an interesting story right.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
A little bit.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Just a little bit, just a tiny bit.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
There's a couple bumps in the road.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
It's a book basically it could be a good book, a
movie, kind of like AaronBrockovich.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Oh, the best.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Aaron Brockovich.
You know an activist savingpeople.
It's on Netflix, so I feel likeyou guys have a comparable
story.
Alright, let's hear it.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
But I think we should start like the first date.
Oh yeah, I want to really startbecause I happen to be there we
we matched on bumble.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
That is the start of.
I mean, if I'm gonna be andtender, I was gonna say, should
I tell the truth?
We matched on tinder first andthen bumble.
I was on all the apps you, weboth were um, and then I was
working like two jobs at thetime and going to school, so I
was about to bounce on a datebecause I was like I can't do
this.
I've been working doubles allweek.
(04:05):
Um, but then we had a mutualfriend who was like oh my god,
you guys are gonna love eachother.
You have to go on a date.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
And so I was like, all right, I'm gonna kia pull oh
yeah I was like I'm gonna pullmy john guy also I was currently
living with connor at the time,so I currently living with
Connor at the time, so I wasliving with my father.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
We love daddy.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
We love daddy's home.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
And then we went on our first date and then all of
her friends and I mean all ofthem crashed it and we ended up
staying out really late.
I met every single friend thatyou have ever had, and then the
next morning morning, a lot oftequila shots were taken lots
yeah uh, and then I had to havemy stepmom drive me to my car in
(04:51):
the morning uh, but she broughtme bojangles the next morning,
so I know I did good yeah I know, here we are now so here we are
yeah because I do remember whenI moved in you Brie, you were
with your now ex, but in lesbianworld y'all also like cordial
and friends.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
I mean.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
Yeah, she filmed our wedding.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Yeah, exactly, welcome to lesbian life.
I wish the gays could do thesame.
But here we are.
But, yeah, and there was like agood two, three, maybe I don't
know how many months of justBrie and I just being single and
being absolutely like trashhuman beings, absolutely trash,
like feral human beings.
(05:34):
Blackout wild shenanigans, yeah, like absolutely blackout wild.
And then Casey comes along andCasey it continued Continued
yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
I would like to say Casey got our shit together for
us, but no.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Casey, why don't you tell everyone what your like
drunk alter ego is?
Speaker 4 (05:55):
Oh, my drunk alter ego is Hurricane Casey that we
discovered during a horrifichurricane that North Carolina
had while I was in earth scienceclass in college.
So I was all about it.
We had a hurricane party at thehouse.
I fell down the stairs andHurricane Casey was born.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
No, you cannot forget about the air vent outside the
air vent was not where I got thename.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
You put a dent in it.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
You did.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
And an HVAC unit.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
I was spinning our dog around.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
She like metal yeah strong.
How the fuck did you dent itokay?
Speaker 4 (06:31):
so let me tell you.
Um, so our dog has really goodgrip strength and people would
hold on to her bone and spin herin circles, so I did that.
Uh, I don't even think I wasdrinking at the time.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Oh, you were blackout drunk.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
No, I was not blackout drunk at the time I hit
the HVAC.
I was when I was dark.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
When you hit the HVAC , was this the dog flying into
the HVAC?
No, it was me.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
I released the dog and the momentum I fell into the
.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
HVAC.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
I'm sure it's still there to this day.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Physics?
I think it is.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
It's probably not.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
They replaced the like Siding of the house but not
the HVAC.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
They probably replaced the HVAC.
I think they did Unrelated tomy head injury.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
My concussion Same with the carpet.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
God, do you remember I?
Tried to Like.
What do you call that?
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Like you tried to like Vacuum.
Like Power, wash the carpetPower wash the carpet, whatever
you call it.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Yes, deep clean.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Shampoo, the ones you rent from the Stanley Steamer.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Oh, I had my own Because I'm bougie like that.
Where did it go?
Because I don't remember that.
I sold it on a Facebookmarketplace because that is my
new gig, oh, my god, you andPedro.
Leap that, leap marketplace,because that is my new gig.
Oh my god, you and pedro anyway, leap that, oh my god but, yeah
(07:52):
, I just remember you wouldshampoo the carpet.
It'd be great it looked so goodyes, and then all of a sudden it
would as soon as it dried, itall came back to the surface and
like that carpet was so fuckedyou don't even know it was.
Like this white, like thecheapest carpet you can find,
like that hard grainy, and thebackyard was nothing but a mud
(08:13):
pit, so fleek would come inside.
Muddied up, but also, I used tothrow ragers at this A-frame
house Like people I didn't evenknow would come over.
Cops would get called on aregular basis.
Yes, early 20s, we were ragingat that fucking house.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
That's how you got your felonies.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Let's not talk about that 10-4.
I have no felonies.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Because you're felony free.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
The rumors are false, Misdemeanors.
On the other hand, the rumorsare false everyone Misdemeanors
are nothing, mr Brie nurse.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
I'm going home.
This has been so great.
But yeah, I just remember theA-frame days and then it was
just like Brie and I for alittle while and then, casey,
you kind of slowly moved in andthe house became really clean
Shocking, it was very tidy.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
It's almost like an adult was around.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Correct but she was the younger one, much younger
than us Old soul baby, not thatmuch.
Damn.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Well, just younger, four and a half years.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Three and a half, that's a half decade.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
How old are you?
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Connor 31.
30, baby 32.
I will be 29 in, like baby 5weeks so we should also talk
about the time you know.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
So we throw these big ragers on Saturdays, blah, blah
, blah aka the three of usdrinking 5 bottles of Matua
Sauvignon Blanc that was ourshit.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
That was our shit it's amazing.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
It's like really cheap, like $10 a bottle.
You can get it in a case.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
We would both just keep like two bottles, like all
three of us would keep bothbottles beside us.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Just double fisting basically.
We literally would like drinkout of the bottle.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
Just three of us.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Yeah, f.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Yeah, but I'll never forget the day when it was like
a Sunday morning, we all get up,we're a little hungover and we
just had like this, like we justhad bacon and we were making
bacon, and Casey has, as you cantell, has like amazing tattoos,
and it's not just on her arms,she's covered and we ended up.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
That's for the Patreon, by the way.
Yeah, you can see all of them.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
If you subscribe to the Patreon, you can see the
bacon photos and many more.
I don't even know if we stillhave the bacon photos.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Oh, I do, they're in my bedside drawer.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
They were Polaroids, but I'll just never forget
taking photos of cooked bacon onCasey's ass, and that was just
when it concealed our like.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
That's when our best friendship was solidified 100%
Was it cooked bacon.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
And did you eat it off her ass Like Sushi Girl
style, and we also had BloodyMarys, so it was like Bloody
Marys foodies and bacon Classy.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
We should bring that shit back on a Sunday.
We should have done that forfootball season, but like but
also back to the Polaroids.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
Let's not discuss those Now that Pornhub's gone in
North Carolina.
These Polaroids are my onlysource and I love them.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
They're valuable Facebook.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Marketplace, baby, you can make some money.
Which, speaking of that,contact your representatives.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
We should not be putting our.
Ids in to look at adult content, because you know it's going to
lead down the line to way worsethings.
Privacy concerns Contact yourrepresentatives.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Amen People.
Their numbers are on here.
Well, I guess.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
Yeah, we can look it up, put the numbers up.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
For our representatives.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
Yeah, yes, because it's North Carolina based, and
just Google it.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
These people don't know how to Google.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
No, baby, I'll do it, don't worry yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Our audience can barely read, so gotta be
sensitive all three people yeahthe train's going oh my god,
this person keeps calling me dowe have to?
Speaker 4 (11:50):
pause for the train is it no?
Speaker 1 (11:52):
no, it won't pick it up, we're good there's a train
going by everybody, there's athank god I don't still live
right next to it I think, ohsame the train should mean we
have to choo-choo chug.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Oh, let's do that.
I already did.
Anytime the train comes by,have to choo-choo chug.
Let's do that.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Anytime the train comes by, we're choo-choo
chugging.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Choo-choo chugging, I'm just trying to get all those
funny bits I'm going to editJust letting you know, your
delivery is outside theapartment door 302.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
The pizza's here Can I call a good edit, just letting
you know your delivery isoutside the apartment, door 302.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
The pizza's here the pizza.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Can I call?
Speaker 4 (12:29):
it, jennifer Lawrence .
Where's the pizza, whichactually is good, because I was
about?
Speaker 2 (12:32):
to go into us talking about after they got together
and then going into the livingsituation into marriage.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Continue making small talk.
I'm going to get the pizza.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
We need to eat the pizza.
Yeah, well, we can do that.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
I'm not to get the pizza.
We need to eat the pizza.
Yeah, well, we can do thatMuckbang.
I'm not eating pizza on camera,I'll eat it with, like, holding
the mic, and we can just like.
Asmr eat pizza.
Anywho, okay, so the three ofus live together and at the time
, the best part is I didn'tactually live with him, I just
spent a lot of time with him.
(13:05):
She was just a freeloader.
I paid rent at my own apartmentonce I moved out of my dad's.
I don't know about that Wellyour Greensboro apartment.
Yeah, I was going to school inanother town, yeah, and I lived
there, but I was with you guysevery weekend and my whole
entire winter break, and that'show we knew we could move in
together when your lease was up.
That's true.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
The winter break was like the true test.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
It was.
Yeah, it was literally like Isaid, it was our test run of
living together.
And then the three of usseparated.
We rented a place and thenCOVID happened and we knew what
rings we wanted to get engagedwith.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Oh my God, god also I , low key, put mozzarella sticks
on the menu.
I didn't tell you because Ireally wanted long story short.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
We bought a house we got engaged in like the end of
2020 yeah, 2020 was still likeCOVID year and then we did a
photo shoot like a just likelittle quick one with this
photographer, toujours ChelseaClayton, and we loved her.
She's amazing photo shoot likea just like little quick one
with this photographer, toujourschelsea clayton, and we loved
her.
She's amazing we were like okay,we need to like go ahead and
solidify our date so we can bookthis photographer.
(14:14):
Uh, so I started reaching outto venues in winston because we
both have family super faroutside of winston.
We knew they were all going tobe traveling here.
The last thing we wanted was tolike add additional shit for
like us to deal with.
Uh, so one of the venues that Ihad reached out to to tour um
then sent us an email back after.
(14:35):
I was like yeah, these are thedates we're looking at.
We are looking at a coupledifferent months.
Uh, between 150 and 200 guests,kind of depending on the venue.
Uh, and they were like yeah, solike ask me a couple questions.
And one of the questions theyasked me was what is the groom's
name?
the groom is me, and I was likethis is weird, uh, but you know
(15:01):
what a lot of things in thewedding world are gendered so
many are.
So I was just like, oh, okay,so like blah, blah, blah, blah
blah, and the other bride's nameis Brianna.
And they emailed us back andwe're like, oh, we don't do
same-sex weddings.
And we were just like that'scrazy and like the thing that I
(15:23):
was thinking the whole time.
Like it was I think it was aFriday night we had a couple of
friends over, including Connor.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Yeah, wait was I over .
I'm pretty sure you were at thehouse.
I think I had COVID during thattime.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
Maybe you did, maybe it wasn't you then.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Yeah, I know, betsy was.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
But yeah, we had just like a couple of friends over.
We Is this real, did they just?
Speaker 3 (15:48):
email me this like from their iPhone?
Yes, but like they.
And.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
I was just like oh.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
OK, and we were all obviously very angry because
that's horrifying to like getthat email.
But I was like, ok, let's sleepon it before we do anything.
Rash because the last thing Iwant to do is like rage post on
social media about this.
Rash because the last thing Iwant to do is like rage post on
social media about this.
And then in the morning we werelike you know what, let's just
post this on our Facebook.
(16:16):
I woke up and rage posted itbecause we were like we have a
ton of gay friends in Winstonand like also even non-gay
friends in Winston, like ourfriends, aren't going to want to
get married at this place.
That won't let their friendsget married there.
We literally just wanted tomourn our peeps, you know yeah
uh and then it kind I alsoposted it in like a lgbtu
(16:37):
democrats of winston-salem pagebecause that seemed like a very
you know, accepting audienceyeah, yeah, and I was like you
guys should know this.
Like you, I don't want, Ididn't.
Honestly the really thing, holdon, let me rearrange my words.
What it boiled down to is I didnot want somebody else in our
(16:58):
community to have to email awedding venue and feel the same
way I felt Because it was areally shitty feeling, yeah,
Like the happiest moments ofyour life.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
you're searching for your venue.
You just got engaged to yoursexy ass wife yeah and you're
searching and you're likelooking for the dream venue, and
you found one that you thoughtyou would like have a lot of fun
in, you know, and yeah, sorry,jesus, so I.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
I did not respond back to them, uh, and when media
did end up starting to reachout to them, their reasoning was
that they're like it's againsttheir Christian values.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
So have you ever previous to that?
Was that like a reality checkand oh shit, like people really
are like this, or have youexperienced that kind of thing
before?
Speaker 4 (17:46):
I mean vaguely, but I didn't think like the.
The main reason I stayed inWinston was because I had
already seen on the internet Idon't remember if it was like on
Reddit or on a Facebook groupbut like a gay couple had
reached out to like a barn venuein North Carolina and had been
denied because they were gay.
And I was like, okay, you know,like rural North Carolina is
questionable but like Winston isa very blue pocket.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
We were getting away from the barn venues for
aesthetic reasons for us.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
But also I was like, okay, we're sticking to like the
city of Winston-Salem.
This is the city of arts andinnovation.
We're a very blue pocket in alot of red areas.
Like I'm not.
I honestly went into itthinking I'm not going to get
this in Winston.
So getting it in the city ofWinston, I was like whoa, um,
(18:37):
it's not as accepting here as Ithought and I really didn't.
Neither of us thought anythingwould come of it.
And then it started just kindof moving.
Uh, somebody in the LGBTQ DemsFacebook group was a reporter
and also a performer and is avery gay person and very like
activist person and asked topost it elsewhere.
(18:58):
And I was like, yeah, I do notcare, go for it.
And that's when it like reallytook off.
Um, we got reached out to onlike facebook by a couple of
reporters and at first we wereignoring them because we were
both like laying in bed sweating, so anxious, because we were
like our friends are gonna seethis.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Well, our phones just started blowing up.
I've just posted it on myfacebook and our phones just
immediately started blowing up.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
We were like oh, from friends, from family, from
everybody, yeah um, and theneverything.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
We didn't respond to the first couple of reporters
and then noticed they were justusing our quotes from our
Facebook posts to go ahead andpost them anyway.
So I was like, well, I guess,if they're going to go ahead and
post it, we may as well talk tothem.
So the first reporter that weactually talked to was from
Triad City Beat, and that wasKatieie um, katie m.
(19:54):
Yeah, katie m was amazing, uh,and a really great reporter to
talk to, and I believe theyended up doing it as like a
letter to the editor, so itwasn't like a, you know, quote,
unquote, unbiased article orwhatever you want to call it um.
And then we were reached out toby equality north carolina um,
because they wanted us to talkabout it more, because this
(20:16):
happened to be with the sunsetting of a bill that happened
because of hb I can't think ofthe name of it now, so I'm gonna
need to look that up reallyquick, so we can be.
Is that the bathroom bill?
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
HB2?
.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
Yeah.
So there were additional billspassed after HB2, the bathroom
bill and one of the prongs ofthat bill was that local
municipalities cannot have anon-discrimination ordinance.
But it was only a certain timeand it happened to be sunsetting
at the end of 2020.
So this kind of was the perfectstorm.
(20:52):
It happened at just the righttime.
Local municipalities were justabout to be allowed to enact
non-discrimination ordinancesand when they first reached out
to us, I was like, thank you,but like us getting denied a
wedding venue isn't in realityof like life harming us.
There's people who are like notgetting health care at their
(21:14):
jobs and people who can't evenget jobs or housing because
they're gay, and so, like thisseems kind of like nothing.
And they were like, exactly,this is like the most basic
level of discrimination.
This is like the tip of theiceberg, and you who are two
white women, are getting deniedthis like do you know how much
(21:35):
worse it is for everybody else,like trans people, people of
color who are queer, and I waslike, oh shit, like this is
something that a lot of peoplecan connect to.
A lot of people get marriedstraight people specifically.
Um, and those are the peoplethose voices like really help
matter in getting shit passed,um.
So that's when we startedspeaking out.
(21:57):
We worked with campaign forsouthern equality and equality
north carolina, um, to talkabout this, and we talked to,
like, the winston-salem journal.
We talked to somebody from,like, a national news source.
There was people articleswritten that were based in
England about this, like it itspread like a rapid fire.
(22:19):
Like.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
I was waking up to texts from cousins who hadn't
spoke to me in like 10 years.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Really yeah, oh shit.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
And so it went from just us being like pissed off
and posting on Facebook for ourfriends to like oh shit, like we
can make change happen.
We can do something about this.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
And you did.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
Yeah, right, yeah, right.
After that a couple got passed.
Non-discrimination ordinancesgot passed in North Carolina.
I want to say it was likeAsheville, charlotte, like there
were some big cities that theyhad already kind of been in the
pipeline, but because of this ithelped, like one in
(22:58):
winston-salem got passed.
Uh, not obviously not justbecause of us, but I joined the
non-discrimination ordinancecoalition, uh, with several
other queer people and alliesand north carolina or
winston-salem winston-salem hasa non-discrimination ordinance
now.
Um, it's probably not as likebeefy as we all like it to be,
but it is a huge step, but it'sstill something, yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
It still exists Something to be proud of Exactly
.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
Yeah, something that was not there before, and that's
because a ton of people werelike we had a lot of very shitty
comments.
We also had a lot of peoplebeing like, well, why don't you
just sue?
Um, because it wasn't illegal,like what they did was fully
legal, and that was what was.
The shittiest feeling is likethis person emailed me like we
(23:44):
don't do same-sex marriages andlike that was fine.
Um, like there was no backlash,like so many people in our
comments were also forgettingthat we were the ones who posted
it, and so I was just like Ican see what you're saying.
Talking about the alphabetmafia yeah, we're here, but it
(24:07):
it led to a lot of really greatthings.
Uh, I met a lot of amazingpeople from equality, north
carolina and Campaign forSouthern Equality.
I also then was able to jointhe board of North Star, which
is a local community center wehave, and then I also was put in
touch with Family Equality,which is like a nationwide LGBTQ
(24:30):
org.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Yeah, so like theos were just the start yeah, and
then, beyond that too, likeafter the whole fact, like I
know, you all went to the whitehouse, and so how did that come
about?
Like like the whole, likedidn't you receive a letter?
Speaker 4 (24:48):
yeah, so, um.
From joe bud yes, because ofthe the work that I was doing
with, uh, csc and nc equality,um, I was trying to help get the
equality act passed in congress, um, unfortunately, that one
did not pass.
But there was another bill thatcame up, uh, that was called
(25:09):
the respect for marriage act.
That compass encompassed a lotmore things than just queer
marriages, um, and I spoke toseveral senators, offices, with
several other queer people, um,and that was what basically got
us on the radar of this event atthe white house, a night of
(25:29):
when hope and history rhyme, andwe received an invitation to
the White House for this hugeevent that included.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
Elton, motherfucking John, woo, woo that was also my
dream concert and my motherloved him, so that was like my
dad loves him.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
that's amazing.
Yeah, yeah, my tattoo on my armwith the butterflies.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
You know why I love butterflies so much?
Speaker 3 (25:59):
Because the song Someone Saved my Life Tonight
says You're a butterfly.
You're free to fly Free to flyYep, I'm going to cry.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Just kidding, it's okay, you can cry.
We cry on the podcast.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
As a producer I encourage it, ratings gold, but
like as your friend, then I feelreally bad.
But I would still put it in.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
But he didn't perform that song, so fuck you, elton
John.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
Girl Just gonna eat it.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
Well, he's never coming on this podcast.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
He is banned from the podcast, but it was still
amazing.
We got a tiny dancer and, oh,that's, that's right, man, tiny
dancer is my favorite I knowclassics, yeah, yeah we had to
go through some probably severebackground.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
they almost stole my jewel.
It was not yours, it was mine,it was my vape and I was like I
will throw.
They were like I don't know ifyou can have this in here.
I've had vapes yeah, but theydidn't say anything to you about
yours.
We went through a differentsecurity line.
Okay, Maybe we don't say thatwhen we went the housewife that
like snuck into.
Like snuck in.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Yes, that snuck in to the.
Do you all remember that?
Speaker 3 (27:15):
There was a housewife there, but she did not snike in
Sneak in, sneak in.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Sneak in, Sniper in.
But no, there was that likeyeah, housewives of DC and they
like everything.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
Yeah, not hear about that, know about that oh.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Spencer would know.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
Well.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Spencer is on an airplane.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Oh wow, Cut that.
We're going to bleep that andact like you said something
terrible.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
You said you could edit.
You're right, but this wholething, is getting edited.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Oh God, spencer is coming back from New York and
I'm picking him up after this,so is coming back to New York
and I'm picking him up afterthis.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
That's why I'm trying to speed through this part.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Anyway, so the night when Hope and History Rhyme was
not just for the gays, it waslocal change makers and teachers
and first responders, and so wewere very lucky to be included
in that and we met some awesomepeople that we still are
connected with today, which isamazing, and so we got to and we
met some awesome people that westill are connected with.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Really, she's amazing .
Speaker 4 (28:12):
Yeah, that's so cool, and so we got to go to the
front lawn of the White House.
We had to go through TSAsecurity to get there.
They were background checkedbeforehand, but it was still.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
We also saw where Obama used to sneak and smoke
his cigarettes while he was interm.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Did they have a plaque or something?
Speaker 4 (28:29):
No, the guy who was sitting behind us was a teacher
term.
Did they have a?
Speaker 1 (28:32):
plaque or something.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
No, the guy who was sitting behind us was a teacher
and he was like you see, there,that's where Obama used to smoke
his cigarettes.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
He's teaching that in civics.
I want to know what cigarettesObama smoked.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
I was like I don't know what Obama smoked.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
He smoked camel menthols, camel city baby.
Camel city baby.
Camel crushes or maybe he waslike a Turkish delight man.
Turkish royal, turkish royal.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
Turkish delight is like the candy.
I said Turkish light, oh,turkish delight Would you fuck
Divorce, divorce, it's okay,somebody today Our first divorce
on the podcast.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
Oh my God, wow, that's a lot of money.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
Somebody today was like hey will you guys get
divorced so you can get marriedagain, so I can come to your
wedding again.
And then somebody else was likeI'm mad that we weren't friends
when you guys got married.
And I was like well, don'tworry, apparently, we're getting
a divorce and getting remarried.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
You guys will do it again.
You can come to the next one.
Go back to fantasy footballseason.
We got divorced at least 1,700times.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
And I'll just re-sign your mayor's certificate.
I've signed it before, so it'sfine yeah, you can sign it again
but anyway that's a secret.
I know, but it's really funnyanyway.
I'm just kidding.
What are you talking about, we?
Speaker 1 (29:50):
can break that out.
You know which?
Who did Tanya?
You know I'm just kidding.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
What are you talking about?
I don't know.
We can break that out.
Okay, so you know which.
Who did Tanya?
Speaker 2 (29:56):
You know, I do know I'm so out of the loop and I'm
glad about it.
You have no idea what.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
I'm talking about, so went to the White House, did
all this crazy shit.
What are your plans next?
Speaker 3 (30:08):
Because I would love for you to run for office or
something run for office orsomething, because you're like a
badass yes, and you're.
We all say that.
People tell me all the time torun.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
She would be perfect for us a trophy wife, I feel
like a great way to describecasey is.
So when I was moving I wasthinking about getting movers
and I'm such like give me likebig hockey, hulking like
straight men I'm gonna be liketerrified, like I don't know
what to tell.
But I was like I don't knowwhat to tell.
But I was like I would getcasey to come because she would
be directing those motherfuckerswhat to do, where to put shit,
(30:38):
like that shit would beorganized and she would like you
know, just tell them and theywould listen, because very drill
sergeant intimidating yeah alittle like when you turn when
you turn the red on in.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
In a hot way yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
So that's, casey, not wrong the adults in the room.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
I have been told I was intimidating literally,
since, like middle school, Likealways, I've always wanted a bad
bitch.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
And a bad bitch you got.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
I did.
Yeah, I have been asked to alot to run.
I think if I did anything, itwould only be local.
I think local stuff is muchmore important, right?
Speaker 1 (31:18):
now Grassroots yeah.
Speaker 4 (31:19):
Yeah, that's the thing.
So when all of this was goingon with the NDO, I was attending
virtually attending citycouncil meetings like every
single month, and I'm not goingto say which ward I'm in or who
is my local city council person,but they were recently elected
at the time and they hadmentioned in a meeting that I
(31:39):
wasn't in that I saw a recordingof that.
They had not attended a citycouncil meeting until they won
their primary and it's like thatTikTok sound that's really
popular right now, whichprobably won't be popular when
this is posted, but it's likeboys can do it, like it's so
easy, and so I was like, if boyscan do it, I can do it.
Yeah, and that literally at thetime I was like I've been to
(32:02):
more city council meetings thanthis man has been.
I could do it, but it's just avery big logistical thing and I
would have to have a lot oftalks, like you know, with my
wife and with with my job andwith the people who would be
supporting me.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
She also has to wait until she's like 85 years old at
least.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
That's when you run for Congress.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
I'm not running for Congress though, but like city
council.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Because right now, my city council rep who we won't
name is a part of our LGBTcommunity but, doesn't like to
stand up and talk, he just bendsover and ignores the problems.
And he it's like we electedsomebody thinking, oh, because
the area he represents is veryprogressive, like oh, we're no,
(32:48):
we're not naming names, we'regonna get somebody I think I
know that, um, that would reallyfight for us.
And instead we got somebody whowas like kind of a yes, man,
goes with whatever one else doesit just bends over literally
and like I get you're gay, butlike in a workplace.
Stop bending over correct amen.
Speaker 4 (33:05):
Well, and that's what I'm saying, like if I were to
do this, I would have tostrategize, and that's.
I've had people who are muchmore politically inept than I am
, because that's, at the end ofthe day, like I have so much
more to learn, like I have donea lot of advocating, but mostly
I know how to advocate forthings that, like, I know
firsthand, because I don't wantto speak out about something
(33:27):
that I'm uninformed about or I'mnot in that community.
You know I don't.
I need to be educated.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Yeah, you don't want to speak for that community.
Speaker 4 (33:35):
So if I were to do it , I would really need to like do
it and I would like I wouldprobably be the city council
person that everybody was angryat, because I want to be the
voice for the people.
And so if everybody is likecomplaining about a certain
intersection that constantly hasaccidents and needs a stoplight
(33:58):
, like amen well, we can't saythe name, because then that
gives away which council personwe're talking sorry, I'm so
sorry it's okay.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
That's why I'm saying it, so it I don't give a fuck,
we'll call him out.
We didn't say his name, but youknow who you are, you slimy
motherfucker.
Grow a pair or just resign.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
Yeah, you kind of suck but we have to be careful,
because I don't need him to knowI'm coming for him he already
hates us no, he doesn't.
He likes us but be terrified helike knows me we're friends on
facebook he knows me, we've hadconversations I've had.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
I've had conversations too with this
gentleman.
Speaker 4 (34:35):
But like if I was going to be on city council, it
would be a whole thing and I'mnot ready for that currently.
Possibly in a couple of years,but yeah, I'm not currently
ready for that.
But even has said things likeCasey, why don't you run for?
Speaker 3 (34:50):
office you would.
Speaker 4 (34:51):
Fucking kill it.
And I was like it's funnybecause, like a lot of people
who vote in a similar way oftalk shit about somebody who's
in our like Senate right now,because she was a bartender.
And I'm like, do you notremember like a couple of years
ago, I was just a fuckingbartender.
And now you're sitting here inthe car with me, like telling me
(35:12):
I should run for office.
You obviously believe in mebecause you know how smart I am
personally, but a lot of peoplewho are like you and vote like
you would just be looking at meand being like she was a fucking
bartender and I'm like that'show things like that go.
It's true, you know.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
Yeah, we have our president, who's a reality TV
star, but here we are.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
That makes a lot of fucking sense, yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
So I have a question as we start to wrap this up yeah
, given all you've gone through,do you have any advice for
other members of the LGBTcommunity that might be facing
something similar?
And I know how you handled itand you had.
You had no background in that,like you just had to figure it
(35:59):
out.
Do you have any advice forpeople that if they run into
this, especially in the currentclimate like this isn't going to
stop, unfortunately right now.
How do they deal with it?
How do they anything that youwould change as far as how you
handled that?
Speaker 4 (36:13):
Um, I think, relying on your community is community
is huge, super amazing.
Uh, we had and I know it's likecheesy, but like we, there were
facebook groups and we hadpeople who we had never met like
just giving us affirming words.
Uh, we're very lucky that wehave a lot of close friends who
are also in our community thatwe could just like call and like
(36:33):
commiserate with and like betalked up with, uh, but there's
a lot of really great virtualcommunities that you can
hopefully connect with.
Speaker 3 (36:40):
So many people reached out to us and it was
just like it made it easy toignore the shitty comments
because, we did, we received alot of hate rolling in
Speaker 4 (36:53):
of dms of comments like and I just honestly laughed
at them because at the end ofthe day I was like you don't
know me, you don't know my lifeand your, your shitty little
facebook comment doesn't hauntmy feelings, but I know some of
them can.
Um, so like leaning on yourcommunity, because that's, there
were so many people who wedidn't know well, who, like my
(37:14):
friend lindsey she initially Imet her because she owns a
wedding business and she is partof the LGBTQ community and at
the time she just like reachedout and was like offering
support and like, over time,like she is my best friend now.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
Shout out to Lindsay she's a real one.
Speaker 4 (37:30):
Ivory Hound Weddings Love you, Lindsay.
But yeah, we were able to makea lot of friends and just like
really leaning on our community,the like queer people and
allies and the allies a lot oftimes make a really big
difference and you don't realizeyou do.
Surround yourself with peoplethat love you and care about you
, and that's pretty much all youcan do and call your
(37:52):
representatives.
Amen.
In North Carolina, thanks toCampaign for Southern Equality
and Equality NC, we have like areally amazing website that you
can literally share a link andjust input your information and
it will send all of therepresentatives.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
They write the letter for you.
Speaker 4 (38:08):
Yeah, share that, write that, get all your friends
to do it.
We would not let people in ourhouse without filling out that
form, and it takes three seconds.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
I had family members who don't even vote the same way
I do that were like careeningout on their senators, which is
what you need to do, like, ifyou don't annoy them, they won't
care.
Speaker 4 (38:24):
Yeah, the thing is you need to call your
representatives.
That's what they're there to do.
Do not like yell at them for 45minutes because it's just a
staffer who's doing it, but likecall and make your voice known.
Um, they're supposed to listento you, yeah and maybe a little
plug for north star yeah, northstar lgbtq community center.
Uh, we're located on berkstreet, winston-salem.
(38:46):
Uh, we're open, I believe,friday, saturday, sunday right
now we have programming.
Uh, check out our website,check out our instagram and uh
come check us out or donate.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
Yeah they have a great queer library that has
some funny books, some realbooks, some just I think it's a
fantastic resource.
They do.
Yes, they do you know, free sticleaning or not, I wish, I wish
my boyfriend spencer happens towork with casey on the and it's
just, it's a great support.
(39:18):
I guess it's a great community.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
Yeah, it really is.
Speaker 4 (39:22):
It really is we have here, we have some peer support
groups, we have STI testing, wehave tabletop gay.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
There's also a problem.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
It's definitely a safe space.
Yeah, it is a safe space.
Speaker 4 (39:34):
Ok, maybe you don't say that on a drinking problem.
It's definitely a safe space.
It is a safe space Okay, maybeyou don't say that on a podcast
either we're like literallydrinking Reverse.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
That was a joke.
We all know that was a joke,but yeah, we have Rainbow AA.
Speaker 4 (39:46):
We also have Ambi.
That used to be there, but theyare actually moving to a
location because they outgrew us, which is very exciting for
them.
That's exciting which is veryexciting for them.
But yeah, and if you want tostart your own programming,
there is a form on our websiteand you can start your own
programming, most likely forfree.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
And they have great snacks, I would add.
Speaker 3 (40:03):
We do oh do y'all.
Solid snackies.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
And they also like.
Y'all have condoms, you havelibs, you have all the sexual
things too.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
We threw out the expired condoms the other day.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
Oh, did you get it from there?
Speaker 1 (40:17):
because when I yeah, because they were, they were
flavored and like one was likeneon and I was like hell yeah,
we're about to do sword fightsand then we're like they're
expired.
They're only good foraesthetics, but we can't use
them sword fights are you usingcondoms with your boyfriend?
Speaker 2 (40:33):
I mean because you're in a committed relationship.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
We just wanted to play sword fighting, but we were
like if other people come in,they need to be safe.
Yeah, it's like you've beentested do you use protection oh,
normally we do lately oh, youare using condoms, oh so you're
like, so you are okay there'snothing wrong with having safe
sex like yeah, okay, I
Speaker 2 (40:54):
don't know I don't know what to say right now
because I'm like wait what?
I'm just confused.
Speaker 1 (40:57):
Like so are you?
No, it depends on the time,like last time.
Speaker 3 (41:00):
I'm confused.
What is happening?
Sometimes you use condoms,sometimes they don't.
Yeah basically Connor why, areyou so concerned about this?
I know because I want to know,I instinctively, because like
that's habit.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
Yeah, do you feel like there's like a reason for
you to wear the condom?
No, oh, and I'm black out, I'mnot.
Huh, did you put the condom on,connie?
Yes, what do you mean?
I'm just want to know like, arewe doing like open
relationships, no they're justusing.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
sometimes I I was shit-faced, my default I'm going
to be honest, I had tacos thatnight.
Okay, valid.
And I was like I don't want toshit if things go sideways.
So yeah, apparently that timeit was rough.
Speaker 2 (41:48):
That's why they call it taco.
Hell when it comes out.
Speaker 3 (41:50):
Well, that's the thing that makes sense.
Speaker 4 (41:53):
We don't use condoms, but that's because female
condoms are very hard to find.
We went to Charlotte Pride oneyear and there were like 85
booths.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
Don't you just use like denterdams or some shit?
Speaker 4 (42:02):
Well, yeah, that's the thing.
So there were like 85 booths.
They don't have this goddamngas station.
That offered free condoms andthere was one place at the
Charlotte Pride we went to thathad dental dams.
Speaker 3 (42:17):
I still never used one, though.
Speaker 4 (42:19):
Well, I mean no, because we were in a committed
relationship from the verybeginning.
Yeah it's a lot harder to findfor women, or not even just
women People without standardcondom genitalia.
Speaker 3 (42:33):
Yeah, they don't really talk about safe sex with
women at all.
Yeah, that's, true I rememberthe first time I went to the
gynecologist in college and Itold her I was hooking up with
women.
She was like oh good, you can'tget STDs.
What your gyno said that that'sWest Virginia y'all.
Speaker 2 (42:53):
Truth.
Speaker 3 (42:55):
Even though half of.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
West Virginia.
Y'all Truth, Even though halfof West Virginia is gay as fuck.
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (42:59):
West Virginia is a very gay state.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
It is so gay One of the best gay bars I've ever been
to?
Yes.
Speaker 3 (43:04):
Anyways, yeah, wow, that was a full-ass doctor that
said, oh good, you can't.
Maybe she just thought womenwere just not having sex.
Speaker 1 (43:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (43:15):
Honestly yeah, Probably they don't understand
how women have sex.
She was probably a.
Speaker 1 (43:20):
Christian lady.
Well, on that note, I thinkwe've got to wrap up.
Speaker 3 (43:23):
We do Wrap it up before we tap it up Great.
We're out.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
Yeah, that sounds like a high school.
I love that Like sex ed.
Speaker 4 (43:33):
No, that's just absence.
Speaker 1 (43:33):
Someone rapping.
Yes so do you guys have anyfinal thoughts comments?
I know you guys are coming backlater this season.
Yeah, this is just part one.
Speaker 4 (43:42):
I would just like to say don't forget to contact your
representatives.
That's what they're there for.
You voted for them, Even if youdidn't specifically vote for
them.
You're in their jurisdictionand they're supposed to vote for
you, so they are supposed tovote for you so contact them and
encourage all of your friendsto contact theirs.
Speaker 1 (44:02):
And we're going to add links to be able to find
that in the bio, or we'll haveit somewhere around this video
so you guys can reach out andstart, you know, making change.
Speaker 3 (44:08):
Yeah, making the change.
Speaker 1 (44:09):
All right guys.
Well, thank you for thisamazing episode of Buzzed and
Balanced with our amazing guestand landlords.
Thank you, Bree and Katie.
Thank you for this amazingepisode of buzzed and balanced
with our amazing guests andlandlords.
Speaker 3 (44:17):
Thank you.
Thank you, guys, for having thebest.
We'll see you next week.
Bye.
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in a long time so well.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
So he says, we don't know but here we are.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Okay.
Well, col, do you want to startus?
Speaker 3 (01:24):
off.
We didn't even mention Meg.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Sorry guys, meg is not here today.
She is a little under theweather, so we decided to give
it a shot.
This might suck ass without Meg, because she is the go-to.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
She's our moderator.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
But we're trying it without her.
So everyone, please wish Meg aspeedy recovery and we'll see
her on the next episode.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
We love you Meg.
I do want to say, though, thatwe have.
You know, as this is buzzed andbalanced, we decided to go to a
bar before this.
We are a little buzzed andbalanced, so maybe we should
start off by saying I amdrinking a simply spiked
blueberry lemonade.
(02:04):
I am drinking a simply spikedblueberry lemonade.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
I'm drinking a water.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Only because he has to drive to go pick his
boyfriend up at the airport.
Casey, what are you drinking?
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Just water, really?
No, I'm just kidding.
I'm not drinking only water,I'm drinking a simply spiked
lemonade strawberry.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Y'all already know I'm bringing a Bud Light.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Bud Light saves lives .
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Thank God, I had an emergency Bud Light on deck.
It's called Bree's EmergencyBud Light.
We have to pop it out everytime.
If she happens to stop by.
It's critical, we have it.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
It's written in Connor's lease.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
It is I have to supply it.
So downstairs, where I live, wehave a fridge, the garage
fridge, which is my fridge, andit has to be stocked at all
times with Bud Light.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
You also mentioned that in your best man speech at
our wedding.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
I did, and the fact that we couldn't even have Bud
Light on the premises of y'all'swedding.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
That sounds like bullshit to me.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
I mean they had a different supplier.
It was a whole thing.
We almost had to drink a localbeer Between my wife and my
father.
It was a whole thing.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Well, talking about marriage, you guys kind of have
an interesting story right.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
A little bit.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Just a little bit, just a tiny bit.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
There's a couple bumps in the road.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
It's a book basically it could be a good book, a
movie, kind of like AaronBrockovich.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Oh, the best.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Aaron Brockovich.
You know an activist savingpeople.
It's on Netflix, so I feel likeyou guys have a comparable
story.
Alright, let's hear it.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
But I think we should start like the first date.
Oh yeah, I want to really startbecause I happen to be there we
we matched on bumble.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
That is the start of.
I mean, if I'm gonna be andtender, I was gonna say, should
I tell the truth?
We matched on tinder first andthen bumble.
I was on all the apps you, weboth were um, and then I was
working like two jobs at thetime and going to school, so I
was about to bounce on a datebecause I was like I can't do
this.
I've been working doubles allweek.
(04:05):
Um, but then we had a mutualfriend who was like oh my god,
you guys are gonna love eachother.
You have to go on a date.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
And so I was like, all right, I'm gonna kia pull oh
yeah I was like I'm gonna pullmy john guy also I was currently
living with connor at the time,so I currently living with
Connor at the time, so I wasliving with my father.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
We love daddy.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
We love daddy's home.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
And then we went on our first date and then all of
her friends and I mean all ofthem crashed it and we ended up
staying out really late.
I met every single friend thatyou have ever had, and then the
next morning morning, a lot oftequila shots were taken lots
yeah uh, and then I had to havemy stepmom drive me to my car in
(04:51):
the morning uh, but she broughtme bojangles the next morning,
so I know I did good yeah I know, here we are now so here we are
yeah because I do remember whenI moved in you Brie, you were
with your now ex, but in lesbianworld y'all also like cordial
and friends.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
I mean.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
Yeah, she filmed our wedding.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Yeah, exactly, welcome to lesbian life.
I wish the gays could do thesame.
But here we are.
But, yeah, and there was like agood two, three, maybe I don't
know how many months of justBrie and I just being single and
being absolutely like trashhuman beings, absolutely trash,
like feral human beings.
(05:34):
Blackout wild shenanigans, yeah, like absolutely blackout wild.
And then Casey comes along andCasey it continued Continued
yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
I would like to say Casey got our shit together for
us, but no.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Casey, why don't you tell everyone what your like
drunk alter ego is?
Speaker 4 (05:55):
Oh, my drunk alter ego is Hurricane Casey that we
discovered during a horrifichurricane that North Carolina
had while I was in earth scienceclass in college.
So I was all about it.
We had a hurricane party at thehouse.
I fell down the stairs andHurricane Casey was born.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
No, you cannot forget about the air vent outside the
air vent was not where I got thename.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
You put a dent in it.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
You did.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
And an HVAC unit.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
I was spinning our dog around.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
She like metal yeah strong.
How the fuck did you dent itokay?
Speaker 4 (06:31):
so let me tell you.
Um, so our dog has really goodgrip strength and people would
hold on to her bone and spin herin circles, so I did that.
Uh, I don't even think I wasdrinking at the time.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Oh, you were blackout drunk.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
No, I was not blackout drunk at the time I hit
the HVAC.
I was when I was dark.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
When you hit the HVAC , was this the dog flying into
the HVAC?
No, it was me.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
I released the dog and the momentum I fell into the
.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
HVAC.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
I'm sure it's still there to this day.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Physics?
I think it is.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
It's probably not.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
They replaced the like Siding of the house but not
the HVAC.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
They probably replaced the HVAC.
I think they did Unrelated tomy head injury.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
My concussion Same with the carpet.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
God, do you remember I?
Tried to Like.
What do you call that?
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Like you tried to like Vacuum.
Like Power, wash the carpetPower wash the carpet, whatever
you call it.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Yes, deep clean.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Shampoo, the ones you rent from the Stanley Steamer.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Oh, I had my own Because I'm bougie like that.
Where did it go?
Because I don't remember that.
I sold it on a Facebookmarketplace because that is my
new gig, oh, my god, you andPedro.
Leap that, leap marketplace,because that is my new gig.
Oh my god, you and pedro anyway, leap that, oh my god but, yeah
(07:52):
, I just remember you wouldshampoo the carpet.
It'd be great it looked so goodyes, and then all of a sudden it
would as soon as it dried, itall came back to the surface and
like that carpet was so fuckedyou don't even know it was.
Like this white, like thecheapest carpet you can find,
like that hard grainy, and thebackyard was nothing but a mud
(08:13):
pit, so fleek would come inside.
Muddied up, but also, I used tothrow ragers at this A-frame
house Like people I didn't evenknow would come over.
Cops would get called on aregular basis.
Yes, early 20s, we were ragingat that fucking house.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
That's how you got your felonies.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Let's not talk about that 10-4.
I have no felonies.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Because you're felony free.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
The rumors are false, Misdemeanors.
On the other hand, the rumorsare false everyone Misdemeanors
are nothing, mr Brie nurse.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
I'm going home.
This has been so great.
But yeah, I just remember theA-frame days and then it was
just like Brie and I for alittle while and then, casey,
you kind of slowly moved in andthe house became really clean
Shocking, it was very tidy.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
It's almost like an adult was around.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Correct but she was the younger one, much younger
than us Old soul baby, not thatmuch.
Damn.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Well, just younger, four and a half years.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Three and a half, that's a half decade.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
How old are you?
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Connor 31.
30, baby 32.
I will be 29 in, like baby 5weeks so we should also talk
about the time you know.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
So we throw these big ragers on Saturdays, blah, blah
, blah aka the three of usdrinking 5 bottles of Matua
Sauvignon Blanc that was ourshit.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
That was our shit it's amazing.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
It's like really cheap, like $10 a bottle.
You can get it in a case.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
We would both just keep like two bottles, like all
three of us would keep bothbottles beside us.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Just double fisting basically.
We literally would like drinkout of the bottle.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
Just three of us.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Yeah, f.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Yeah, but I'll never forget the day when it was like
a Sunday morning, we all get up,we're a little hungover and we
just had like this, like we justhad bacon and we were making
bacon, and Casey has, as you cantell, has like amazing tattoos,
and it's not just on her arms,she's covered and we ended up.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
That's for the Patreon, by the way.
Yeah, you can see all of them.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
If you subscribe to the Patreon, you can see the
bacon photos and many more.
I don't even know if we stillhave the bacon photos.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Oh, I do, they're in my bedside drawer.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
They were Polaroids, but I'll just never forget
taking photos of cooked bacon onCasey's ass, and that was just
when it concealed our like.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
That's when our best friendship was solidified 100%
Was it cooked bacon.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
And did you eat it off her ass Like Sushi Girl
style, and we also had BloodyMarys, so it was like Bloody
Marys foodies and bacon Classy.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
We should bring that shit back on a Sunday.
We should have done that forfootball season, but like but
also back to the Polaroids.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
Let's not discuss those Now that Pornhub's gone in
North Carolina.
These Polaroids are my onlysource and I love them.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
They're valuable Facebook.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Marketplace, baby, you can make some money.
Which, speaking of that,contact your representatives.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
We should not be putting our.
Ids in to look at adult content, because you know it's going to
lead down the line to way worsethings.
Privacy concerns Contact yourrepresentatives.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Amen People.
Their numbers are on here.
Well, I guess.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
Yeah, we can look it up, put the numbers up.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
For our representatives.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
Yeah, yes, because it's North Carolina based, and
just Google it.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
These people don't know how to Google.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
No, baby, I'll do it, don't worry yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Our audience can barely read, so gotta be
sensitive all three people yeahthe train's going oh my god,
this person keeps calling me dowe have to?
Speaker 4 (11:50):
pause for the train is it no?
Speaker 1 (11:52):
no, it won't pick it up, we're good there's a train
going by everybody, there's athank god I don't still live
right next to it I think, ohsame the train should mean we
have to choo-choo chug.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Oh, let's do that.
I already did.
Anytime the train comes by,have to choo-choo chug.
Let's do that.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Anytime the train comes by, we're choo-choo
chugging.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Choo-choo chugging, I'm just trying to get all those
funny bits I'm going to editJust letting you know, your
delivery is outside theapartment door 302.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
The pizza's here Can I call a good edit, just letting
you know your delivery isoutside the apartment, door 302.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
The pizza's here the pizza.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Can I call?
Speaker 4 (12:29):
it, jennifer Lawrence .
Where's the pizza, whichactually is good, because I was
about?
Speaker 2 (12:32):
to go into us talking about after they got together
and then going into the livingsituation into marriage.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Continue making small talk.
I'm going to get the pizza.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
We need to eat the pizza.
Yeah, well, we can do that.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
I'm not to get the pizza.
We need to eat the pizza.
Yeah, well, we can do thatMuckbang.
I'm not eating pizza on camera,I'll eat it with, like, holding
the mic, and we can just like.
Asmr eat pizza.
Anywho, okay, so the three ofus live together and at the time
, the best part is I didn'tactually live with him, I just
spent a lot of time with him.
(13:05):
She was just a freeloader.
I paid rent at my own apartmentonce I moved out of my dad's.
I don't know about that Wellyour Greensboro apartment.
Yeah, I was going to school inanother town, yeah, and I lived
there, but I was with you guysevery weekend and my whole
entire winter break, and that'show we knew we could move in
together when your lease was up.
That's true.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
The winter break was like the true test.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
It was.
Yeah, it was literally like Isaid, it was our test run of
living together.
And then the three of usseparated.
We rented a place and thenCOVID happened and we knew what
rings we wanted to get engagedwith.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Oh my God, god also I , low key, put mozzarella sticks
on the menu.
I didn't tell you because Ireally wanted long story short.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
We bought a house we got engaged in like the end of
2020 yeah, 2020 was still likeCOVID year and then we did a
photo shoot like a just likelittle quick one with this
photographer, toujours ChelseaClayton, and we loved her.
She's amazing photo shoot likea just like little quick one
with this photographer, toujourschelsea clayton, and we loved
her.
She's amazing we were like okay,we need to like go ahead and
solidify our date so we can bookthis photographer.
(14:14):
Uh, so I started reaching outto venues in winston because we
both have family super faroutside of winston.
We knew they were all going tobe traveling here.
The last thing we wanted was tolike add additional shit for
like us to deal with.
Uh, so one of the venues that Ihad reached out to to tour um
then sent us an email back after.
(14:35):
I was like yeah, these are thedates we're looking at.
We are looking at a coupledifferent months.
Uh, between 150 and 200 guests,kind of depending on the venue.
Uh, and they were like yeah, solike ask me a couple questions.
And one of the questions theyasked me was what is the groom's
name?
the groom is me, and I was likethis is weird, uh, but you know
(15:01):
what a lot of things in thewedding world are gendered so
many are.
So I was just like, oh, okay,so like blah, blah, blah, blah
blah, and the other bride's nameis Brianna.
And they emailed us back andwe're like, oh, we don't do
same-sex weddings.
And we were just like that'scrazy and like the thing that I
(15:23):
was thinking the whole time.
Like it was I think it was aFriday night we had a couple of
friends over, including Connor.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Yeah, wait was I over .
I'm pretty sure you were at thehouse.
I think I had COVID during thattime.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
Maybe you did, maybe it wasn't you then.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Yeah, I know, betsy was.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
But yeah, we had just like a couple of friends over.
We Is this real, did they just?
Speaker 3 (15:48):
email me this like from their iPhone?
Yes, but like they.
And.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
I was just like oh.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
OK, and we were all obviously very angry because
that's horrifying to like getthat email.
But I was like, ok, let's sleepon it before we do anything.
Rash because the last thing Iwant to do is like rage post on
social media about this.
Rash because the last thing Iwant to do is like rage post on
social media about this.
And then in the morning we werelike you know what, let's just
post this on our Facebook.
(16:16):
I woke up and rage posted itbecause we were like we have a
ton of gay friends in Winstonand like also even non-gay
friends in Winston, like ourfriends, aren't going to want to
get married at this place.
That won't let their friendsget married there.
We literally just wanted tomourn our peeps, you know yeah
uh and then it kind I alsoposted it in like a lgbtu
(16:37):
democrats of winston-salem pagebecause that seemed like a very
you know, accepting audienceyeah, yeah, and I was like you
guys should know this.
Like you, I don't want, Ididn't.
Honestly the really thing, holdon, let me rearrange my words.
What it boiled down to is I didnot want somebody else in our
(16:58):
community to have to email awedding venue and feel the same
way I felt Because it was areally shitty feeling, yeah,
Like the happiest moments ofyour life.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
you're searching for your venue.
You just got engaged to yoursexy ass wife yeah and you're
searching and you're likelooking for the dream venue, and
you found one that you thoughtyou would like have a lot of fun
in, you know, and yeah, sorry,jesus, so I.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
I did not respond back to them, uh, and when media
did end up starting to reachout to them, their reasoning was
that they're like it's againsttheir Christian values.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
So have you ever previous to that?
Was that like a reality checkand oh shit, like people really
are like this, or have youexperienced that kind of thing
before?
Speaker 4 (17:46):
I mean vaguely, but I didn't think like the.
The main reason I stayed inWinston was because I had
already seen on the internet Idon't remember if it was like on
Reddit or on a Facebook groupbut like a gay couple had
reached out to like a barn venuein North Carolina and had been
denied because they were gay.
And I was like, okay, you know,like rural North Carolina is
questionable but like Winston isa very blue pocket.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
We were getting away from the barn venues for
aesthetic reasons for us.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
But also I was like, okay, we're sticking to like the
city of Winston-Salem.
This is the city of arts andinnovation.
We're a very blue pocket in alot of red areas.
Like I'm not.
I honestly went into itthinking I'm not going to get
this in Winston.
So getting it in the city ofWinston, I was like whoa, um,
(18:37):
it's not as accepting here as Ithought and I really didn't.
Neither of us thought anythingwould come of it.
And then it started just kindof moving.
Uh, somebody in the LGBTQ DemsFacebook group was a reporter
and also a performer and is avery gay person and very like
activist person and asked topost it elsewhere.
(18:58):
And I was like, yeah, I do notcare, go for it.
And that's when it like reallytook off.
Um, we got reached out to onlike facebook by a couple of
reporters and at first we wereignoring them because we were
both like laying in bed sweating, so anxious, because we were
like our friends are gonna seethis.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Well, our phones just started blowing up.
I've just posted it on myfacebook and our phones just
immediately started blowing up.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
We were like oh, from friends, from family, from
everybody, yeah um, and theneverything.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
We didn't respond to the first couple of reporters
and then noticed they were justusing our quotes from our
Facebook posts to go ahead andpost them anyway.
So I was like, well, I guess,if they're going to go ahead and
post it, we may as well talk tothem.
So the first reporter that weactually talked to was from
Triad City Beat, and that wasKatieie um, katie m.
(19:54):
Yeah, katie m was amazing, uh,and a really great reporter to
talk to, and I believe theyended up doing it as like a
letter to the editor, so itwasn't like a, you know, quote,
unquote, unbiased article orwhatever you want to call it um.
And then we were reached out toby equality north carolina um,
because they wanted us to talkabout it more, because this
(20:16):
happened to be with the sunsetting of a bill that happened
because of hb I can't think ofthe name of it now, so I'm gonna
need to look that up reallyquick, so we can be.
Is that the bathroom bill?
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
HB2?
.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
Yeah.
So there were additional billspassed after HB2, the bathroom
bill and one of the prongs ofthat bill was that local
municipalities cannot have anon-discrimination ordinance.
But it was only a certain timeand it happened to be sunsetting
at the end of 2020.
So this kind of was the perfectstorm.
(20:52):
It happened at just the righttime.
Local municipalities were justabout to be allowed to enact
non-discrimination ordinancesand when they first reached out
to us, I was like, thank you,but like us getting denied a
wedding venue isn't in realityof like life harming us.
There's people who are like notgetting health care at their
(21:14):
jobs and people who can't evenget jobs or housing because
they're gay, and so, like thisseems kind of like nothing.
And they were like, exactly,this is like the most basic
level of discrimination.
This is like the tip of theiceberg, and you who are two
white women, are getting deniedthis like do you know how much
(21:35):
worse it is for everybody else,like trans people, people of
color who are queer, and I waslike, oh shit, like this is
something that a lot of peoplecan connect to.
A lot of people get marriedstraight people specifically.
Um, and those are the peoplethose voices like really help
matter in getting shit passed,um.
So that's when we startedspeaking out.
(21:57):
We worked with campaign forsouthern equality and equality
north carolina, um, to talkabout this, and we talked to,
like, the winston-salem journal.
We talked to somebody from,like, a national news source.
There was people articleswritten that were based in
England about this, like it itspread like a rapid fire.
(22:19):
Like.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
I was waking up to texts from cousins who hadn't
spoke to me in like 10 years.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Really yeah, oh shit.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
And so it went from just us being like pissed off
and posting on Facebook for ourfriends to like oh shit, like we
can make change happen.
We can do something about this.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
And you did.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
Yeah, right, yeah, right.
After that a couple got passed.
Non-discrimination ordinancesgot passed in North Carolina.
I want to say it was likeAsheville, charlotte, like there
were some big cities that theyhad already kind of been in the
pipeline, but because of this ithelped, like one in
(22:58):
winston-salem got passed.
Uh, not obviously not justbecause of us, but I joined the
non-discrimination ordinancecoalition, uh, with several
other queer people and alliesand north carolina or
winston-salem winston-salem hasa non-discrimination ordinance
now.
Um, it's probably not as likebeefy as we all like it to be,
but it is a huge step, but it'sstill something, yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
It still exists Something to be proud of Exactly
.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
Yeah, something that was not there before, and that's
because a ton of people werelike we had a lot of very shitty
comments.
We also had a lot of peoplebeing like, well, why don't you
just sue?
Um, because it wasn't illegal,like what they did was fully
legal, and that was what was.
The shittiest feeling is likethis person emailed me like we
(23:44):
don't do same-sex marriages andlike that was fine.
Um, like there was no backlash,like so many people in our
comments were also forgettingthat we were the ones who posted
it, and so I was just like Ican see what you're saying.
Talking about the alphabetmafia yeah, we're here, but it
(24:07):
it led to a lot of really greatthings.
Uh, I met a lot of amazingpeople from equality, north
carolina and Campaign forSouthern Equality.
I also then was able to jointhe board of North Star, which
is a local community center wehave, and then I also was put in
touch with Family Equality,which is like a nationwide LGBTQ
(24:30):
org.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Yeah, so like theos were just the start yeah, and
then, beyond that too, likeafter the whole fact, like I
know, you all went to the whitehouse, and so how did that come
about?
Like like the whole, likedidn't you receive a letter?
Speaker 4 (24:48):
yeah, so, um.
From joe bud yes, because ofthe the work that I was doing
with, uh, csc and nc equality,um, I was trying to help get the
equality act passed in congress, um, unfortunately, that one
did not pass.
But there was another bill thatcame up, uh, that was called
(25:09):
the respect for marriage act.
That compass encompassed a lotmore things than just queer
marriages, um, and I spoke toseveral senators, offices, with
several other queer people, um,and that was what basically got
us on the radar of this event atthe white house, a night of
(25:29):
when hope and history rhyme, andwe received an invitation to
the White House for this hugeevent that included.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
Elton, motherfucking John, woo, woo that was also my
dream concert and my motherloved him, so that was like my
dad loves him.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
that's amazing.
Yeah, yeah, my tattoo on my armwith the butterflies.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
You know why I love butterflies so much?
Speaker 3 (25:59):
Because the song Someone Saved my Life Tonight
says You're a butterfly.
You're free to fly Free to flyYep, I'm going to cry.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Just kidding, it's okay, you can cry.
We cry on the podcast.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
As a producer I encourage it, ratings gold, but
like as your friend, then I feelreally bad.
But I would still put it in.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
But he didn't perform that song, so fuck you, elton
John.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
Girl Just gonna eat it.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
Well, he's never coming on this podcast.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
He is banned from the podcast, but it was still
amazing.
We got a tiny dancer and, oh,that's, that's right, man, tiny
dancer is my favorite I knowclassics, yeah, yeah we had to
go through some probably severebackground.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
they almost stole my jewel.
It was not yours, it was mine,it was my vape and I was like I
will throw.
They were like I don't know ifyou can have this in here.
I've had vapes yeah, but theydidn't say anything to you about
yours.
We went through a differentsecurity line.
Okay, Maybe we don't say thatwhen we went the housewife that
like snuck into.
Like snuck in.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Yes, that snuck in to the.
Do you all remember that?
Speaker 3 (27:15):
There was a housewife there, but she did not snike in
Sneak in, sneak in.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Sneak in, Sniper in.
But no, there was that likeyeah, housewives of DC and they
like everything.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
Yeah, not hear about that, know about that oh.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Spencer would know.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
Well.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Spencer is on an airplane.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Oh wow, Cut that.
We're going to bleep that andact like you said something
terrible.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
You said you could edit.
You're right, but this wholething, is getting edited.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Oh God, spencer is coming back from New York and
I'm picking him up after this,so is coming back to New York
and I'm picking him up afterthis.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
That's why I'm trying to speed through this part.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Anyway, so the night when Hope and History Rhyme was
not just for the gays, it waslocal change makers and teachers
and first responders, and so wewere very lucky to be included
in that and we met some awesomepeople that we still are
connected with today, which isamazing, and so we got to and we
met some awesome people that westill are connected with.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Really, she's amazing .
Speaker 4 (28:12):
Yeah, that's so cool, and so we got to go to the
front lawn of the White House.
We had to go through TSAsecurity to get there.
They were background checkedbeforehand, but it was still.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
We also saw where Obama used to sneak and smoke
his cigarettes while he was interm.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Did they have a plaque or something?
Speaker 4 (28:29):
No, the guy who was sitting behind us was a teacher
term.
Did they have a?
Speaker 1 (28:32):
plaque or something.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
No, the guy who was sitting behind us was a teacher
and he was like you see, there,that's where Obama used to smoke
his cigarettes.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
He's teaching that in civics.
I want to know what cigarettesObama smoked.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
I was like I don't know what Obama smoked.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
He smoked camel menthols, camel city baby.
Camel city baby.
Camel crushes or maybe he waslike a Turkish delight man.
Turkish royal, turkish royal.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
Turkish delight is like the candy.
I said Turkish light, oh,turkish delight Would you fuck
Divorce, divorce, it's okay,somebody today Our first divorce
on the podcast.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
Oh my God, wow, that's a lot of money.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
Somebody today was like hey will you guys get
divorced so you can get marriedagain, so I can come to your
wedding again.
And then somebody else was likeI'm mad that we weren't friends
when you guys got married.
And I was like well, don'tworry, apparently, we're getting
a divorce and getting remarried.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
You guys will do it again.
You can come to the next one.
Go back to fantasy footballseason.
We got divorced at least 1,700times.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
And I'll just re-sign your mayor's certificate.
I've signed it before, so it'sfine yeah, you can sign it again
but anyway that's a secret.
I know, but it's really funnyanyway.
I'm just kidding.
What are you talking about, we?
Speaker 1 (29:50):
can break that out.
You know which?
Who did Tanya?
You know I'm just kidding.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
What are you talking about?
I don't know.
We can break that out.
Okay, so you know which.
Who did Tanya?
Speaker 2 (29:56):
You know, I do know I'm so out of the loop and I'm
glad about it.
You have no idea what.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
I'm talking about, so went to the White House, did
all this crazy shit.
What are your plans next?
Speaker 3 (30:08):
Because I would love for you to run for office or
something run for office orsomething, because you're like a
badass yes, and you're.
We all say that.
People tell me all the time torun.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
She would be perfect for us a trophy wife, I feel
like a great way to describecasey is.
So when I was moving I wasthinking about getting movers
and I'm such like give me likebig hockey, hulking like
straight men I'm gonna be liketerrified, like I don't know
what to tell.
But I was like I don't knowwhat to tell.
But I was like I would getcasey to come because she would
be directing those motherfuckerswhat to do, where to put shit,
(30:38):
like that shit would beorganized and she would like you
know, just tell them and theywould listen, because very drill
sergeant intimidating yeah alittle like when you turn when
you turn the red on in.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
In a hot way yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
So that's, casey, not wrong the adults in the room.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
I have been told I was intimidating literally,
since, like middle school, Likealways, I've always wanted a bad
bitch.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
And a bad bitch you got.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
I did.
Yeah, I have been asked to alot to run.
I think if I did anything, itwould only be local.
I think local stuff is muchmore important, right?
Speaker 1 (31:18):
now Grassroots yeah.
Speaker 4 (31:19):
Yeah, that's the thing.
So when all of this was goingon with the NDO, I was attending
virtually attending citycouncil meetings like every
single month, and I'm not goingto say which ward I'm in or who
is my local city council person,but they were recently elected
at the time and they hadmentioned in a meeting that I
(31:39):
wasn't in that I saw a recordingof that.
They had not attended a citycouncil meeting until they won
their primary and it's like thatTikTok sound that's really
popular right now, whichprobably won't be popular when
this is posted, but it's likeboys can do it, like it's so
easy, and so I was like, if boyscan do it, I can do it.
Yeah, and that literally at thetime I was like I've been to
(32:02):
more city council meetings thanthis man has been.
I could do it, but it's just avery big logistical thing and I
would have to have a lot oftalks, like you know, with my
wife and with with my job andwith the people who would be
supporting me.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
She also has to wait until she's like 85 years old at
least.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
That's when you run for Congress.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
I'm not running for Congress though, but like city
council.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Because right now, my city council rep who we won't
name is a part of our LGBTcommunity but, doesn't like to
stand up and talk, he just bendsover and ignores the problems.
And he it's like we electedsomebody thinking, oh, because
the area he represents is veryprogressive, like oh, we're no,
(32:48):
we're not naming names, we'regonna get somebody I think I
know that, um, that would reallyfight for us.
And instead we got somebody whowas like kind of a yes, man,
goes with whatever one else doesit just bends over literally
and like I get you're gay, butlike in a workplace.
Stop bending over correct amen.
Speaker 4 (33:05):
Well, and that's what I'm saying, like if I were to
do this, I would have tostrategize, and that's.
I've had people who are muchmore politically inept than I am
, because that's, at the end ofthe day, like I have so much
more to learn, like I have donea lot of advocating, but mostly
I know how to advocate forthings that, like, I know
firsthand, because I don't wantto speak out about something
(33:27):
that I'm uninformed about or I'mnot in that community.
You know I don't.
I need to be educated.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Yeah, you don't want to speak for that community.
Speaker 4 (33:35):
So if I were to do it , I would really need to like do
it and I would like I wouldprobably be the city council
person that everybody was angryat, because I want to be the
voice for the people.
And so if everybody is likecomplaining about a certain
intersection that constantly hasaccidents and needs a stoplight
(33:58):
, like amen well, we can't saythe name, because then that
gives away which council personwe're talking sorry, I'm so
sorry it's okay.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
That's why I'm saying it, so it I don't give a fuck,
we'll call him out.
We didn't say his name, but youknow who you are, you slimy
motherfucker.
Grow a pair or just resign.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
Yeah, you kind of suck but we have to be careful,
because I don't need him to knowI'm coming for him he already
hates us no, he doesn't.
He likes us but be terrified helike knows me we're friends on
facebook he knows me, we've hadconversations I've had.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
I've had conversations too with this
gentleman.
Speaker 4 (34:35):
But like if I was going to be on city council, it
would be a whole thing and I'mnot ready for that currently.
Possibly in a couple of years,but yeah, I'm not currently
ready for that.
But even has said things likeCasey, why don't you run for?
Speaker 3 (34:50):
office you would.
Speaker 4 (34:51):
Fucking kill it.
And I was like it's funnybecause, like a lot of people
who vote in a similar way oftalk shit about somebody who's
in our like Senate right now,because she was a bartender.
And I'm like, do you notremember like a couple of years
ago, I was just a fuckingbartender.
And now you're sitting here inthe car with me, like telling me
(35:12):
I should run for office.
You obviously believe in mebecause you know how smart I am
personally, but a lot of peoplewho are like you and vote like
you would just be looking at meand being like she was a fucking
bartender and I'm like that'show things like that go.
It's true, you know.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
Yeah, we have our president, who's a reality TV
star, but here we are.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
That makes a lot of fucking sense, yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
So I have a question as we start to wrap this up yeah
, given all you've gone through,do you have any advice for
other members of the LGBTcommunity that might be facing
something similar?
And I know how you handled itand you had.
You had no background in that,like you just had to figure it
(35:59):
out.
Do you have any advice forpeople that if they run into
this, especially in the currentclimate like this isn't going to
stop, unfortunately right now.
How do they deal with it?
How do they anything that youwould change as far as how you
handled that?
Speaker 4 (36:13):
Um, I think, relying on your community is community
is huge, super amazing.
Uh, we had and I know it's likecheesy, but like we, there were
facebook groups and we hadpeople who we had never met like
just giving us affirming words.
Uh, we're very lucky that wehave a lot of close friends who
are also in our community thatwe could just like call and like
(36:33):
commiserate with and like betalked up with, uh, but there's
a lot of really great virtualcommunities that you can
hopefully connect with.
Speaker 3 (36:40):
So many people reached out to us and it was
just like it made it easy toignore the shitty comments
because, we did, we received alot of hate rolling in
Speaker 4 (36:53):
of dms of comments like and I just honestly laughed
at them because at the end ofthe day I was like you don't
know me, you don't know my lifeand your, your shitty little
facebook comment doesn't hauntmy feelings, but I know some of
them can.
Um, so like leaning on yourcommunity, because that's, there
were so many people who wedidn't know well, who, like my
(37:14):
friend lindsey she initially Imet her because she owns a
wedding business and she is partof the LGBTQ community and at
the time she just like reachedout and was like offering
support and like, over time,like she is my best friend now.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
Shout out to Lindsay she's a real one.
Speaker 4 (37:30):
Ivory Hound Weddings Love you, Lindsay.
But yeah, we were able to makea lot of friends and just like
really leaning on our community,the like queer people and
allies and the allies a lot oftimes make a really big
difference and you don't realizeyou do.
Surround yourself with peoplethat love you and care about you
, and that's pretty much all youcan do and call your
(37:52):
representatives.
Amen.
In North Carolina, thanks toCampaign for Southern Equality
and Equality NC, we have like areally amazing website that you
can literally share a link andjust input your information and
it will send all of therepresentatives.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
They write the letter for you.
Speaker 4 (38:08):
Yeah, share that, write that, get all your friends
to do it.
We would not let people in ourhouse without filling out that
form, and it takes three seconds.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
I had family members who don't even vote the same way
I do that were like careeningout on their senators, which is
what you need to do, like, ifyou don't annoy them, they won't
care.
Speaker 4 (38:24):
Yeah, the thing is you need to call your
representatives.
That's what they're there to do.
Do not like yell at them for 45minutes because it's just a
staffer who's doing it, but likecall and make your voice known.
Um, they're supposed to listento you, yeah and maybe a little
plug for north star yeah, northstar lgbtq community center.
Uh, we're located on berkstreet, winston-salem.
(38:46):
Uh, we're open, I believe,friday, saturday, sunday right
now we have programming.
Uh, check out our website,check out our instagram and uh
come check us out or donate.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
Yeah they have a great queer library that has
some funny books, some realbooks, some just I think it's a
fantastic resource.
They do.
Yes, they do you know, free sticleaning or not, I wish, I wish
my boyfriend spencer happens towork with casey on the and it's
just, it's a great support.
(39:18):
I guess it's a great community.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
Yeah, it really is.
Speaker 4 (39:22):
It really is we have here, we have some peer support
groups, we have STI testing, wehave tabletop gay.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
There's also a problem.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
It's definitely a safe space.
Yeah, it is a safe space.
Speaker 4 (39:34):
Ok, maybe you don't say that on a drinking problem.
It's definitely a safe space.
It is a safe space Okay, maybeyou don't say that on a podcast
either we're like literallydrinking Reverse.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
That was a joke.
We all know that was a joke,but yeah, we have Rainbow AA.
Speaker 4 (39:46):
We also have Ambi.
That used to be there, but theyare actually moving to a
location because they outgrew us, which is very exciting for
them.
That's exciting which is veryexciting for them.
But yeah, and if you want tostart your own programming,
there is a form on our websiteand you can start your own
programming, most likely forfree.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
And they have great snacks, I would add.
Speaker 3 (40:03):
We do oh do y'all.
Solid snackies.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
And they also like.
Y'all have condoms, you havelibs, you have all the sexual
things too.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
We threw out the expired condoms the other day.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
Oh, did you get it from there?
Speaker 1 (40:17):
because when I yeah, because they were, they were
flavored and like one was likeneon and I was like hell yeah,
we're about to do sword fightsand then we're like they're
expired.
They're only good foraesthetics, but we can't use
them sword fights are you usingcondoms with your boyfriend?
Speaker 2 (40:33):
I mean because you're in a committed relationship.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
We just wanted to play sword fighting, but we were
like if other people come in,they need to be safe.
Yeah, it's like you've beentested do you use protection oh,
normally we do lately oh, youare using condoms, oh so you're
like, so you are okay there'snothing wrong with having safe
sex like yeah, okay, I
Speaker 2 (40:54):
don't know I don't know what to say right now
because I'm like wait what?
I'm just confused.
Speaker 1 (40:57):
Like so are you?
No, it depends on the time,like last time.
Speaker 3 (41:00):
I'm confused.
What is happening?
Sometimes you use condoms,sometimes they don't.
Yeah basically Connor why, areyou so concerned about this?
I know because I want to know,I instinctively, because like
that's habit.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
Yeah, do you feel like there's like a reason for
you to wear the condom?
No, oh, and I'm black out, I'mnot.
Huh, did you put the condom on,connie?
Yes, what do you mean?
I'm just want to know like, arewe doing like open
relationships, no they're justusing.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
sometimes I I was shit-faced, my default I'm going
to be honest, I had tacos thatnight.
Okay, valid.
And I was like I don't want toshit if things go sideways.
So yeah, apparently that timeit was rough.
Speaker 2 (41:48):
That's why they call it taco.
Hell when it comes out.
Speaker 3 (41:50):
Well, that's the thing that makes sense.
Speaker 4 (41:53):
We don't use condoms, but that's because female
condoms are very hard to find.
We went to Charlotte Pride oneyear and there were like 85
booths.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
Don't you just use like denterdams or some shit?
Speaker 4 (42:02):
Well, yeah, that's the thing.
So there were like 85 booths.
They don't have this goddamngas station.
That offered free condoms andthere was one place at the
Charlotte Pride we went to thathad dental dams.
Speaker 3 (42:17):
I still never used one, though.
Speaker 4 (42:19):
Well, I mean no, because we were in a committed
relationship from the verybeginning.
Yeah it's a lot harder to findfor women, or not even just
women People without standardcondom genitalia.
Speaker 3 (42:33):
Yeah, they don't really talk about safe sex with
women at all.
Yeah, that's, true I rememberthe first time I went to the
gynecologist in college and Itold her I was hooking up with
women.
She was like oh good, you can'tget STDs.
What your gyno said that that'sWest Virginia y'all.
Speaker 2 (42:53):
Truth.
Speaker 3 (42:55):
Even though half of.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
West Virginia.
Y'all Truth, Even though halfof West Virginia is gay as fuck.
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (42:59):
West Virginia is a very gay state.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
It is so gay One of the best gay bars I've ever been
to?
Yes.
Speaker 3 (43:04):
Anyways, yeah, wow, that was a full-ass doctor that
said, oh good, you can't.
Maybe she just thought womenwere just not having sex.
Speaker 1 (43:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (43:15):
Honestly yeah, Probably they don't understand
how women have sex.
She was probably a.
Speaker 1 (43:20):
Christian lady.
Well, on that note, I thinkwe've got to wrap up.
Speaker 3 (43:23):
We do Wrap it up before we tap it up Great.
We're out.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
Yeah, that sounds like a high school.
I love that Like sex ed.
Speaker 4 (43:33):
No, that's just absence.
Speaker 1 (43:33):
Someone rapping.
Yes so do you guys have anyfinal thoughts comments?
I know you guys are coming backlater this season.
Yeah, this is just part one.
Speaker 4 (43:42):
I would just like to say don't forget to contact your
representatives.
That's what they're there for.
You voted for them, Even if youdidn't specifically vote for
them.
You're in their jurisdictionand they're supposed to vote for
you, so they are supposed tovote for you so contact them and
encourage all of your friendsto contact theirs.
Speaker 1 (44:02):
And we're going to add links to be able to find
that in the bio, or we'll haveit somewhere around this video
so you guys can reach out andstart, you know, making change.
Speaker 3 (44:08):
Yeah, making the change.
Speaker 1 (44:09):
All right guys.
Well, thank you for thisamazing episode of Buzzed and
Balanced with our amazing guestand landlords.
Thank you, Bree and Katie.
Thank you for this amazingepisode of buzzed and balanced
with our amazing guests andlandlords.
Speaker 3 (44:17):
Thank you.
Thank you, guys, for having thebest.
We'll see you next week.
Bye.
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