July 1, 2025 • 55 mins
We talk a little this and a little that but the big news is the album you've all been waitning for is out!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Uh, Denise, you don't know how lucky you are. Okay,
now we gotta play wom womp wam. Something red just
slid across the screen. What the hag did you do
to my? Here we go?
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Did you get your.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Let's hit radio, Let's hit radio, Let's hut radio.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
Oh hey, welcome back to.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
July Firth.
Speaker 5 (00:57):
Five.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
We're doing things a little different around here now. Todd's
just blamed the song all willing illy, if the song
if the songs are sounding a little different because they're
a little willing illy these days.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
I didn't even have the time to listen to Christopher Todd.
Dobbin g me.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Okay, well, welcome to another episode of the Buzzhead You podcast.
Hit us up at five eight oh five four one
three eighth five. That is your Buzzhead hotline or email
buzz at buzzheadmedia dot com. And Dave knows the number,
because Dave gone Dave God.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Yeah, he had some stuff over there at the old
seventies buzz podcast, which you can listen to anytime. Darn
uh he did talk about this week on Bushead Radio.
Uh panic attacks. I guess he'd never had a panic attack.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
I've never had a panic.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
I've never had a panic attack, but I was like,
I'd get like an anxiety at Like it's like, h so,
you know, a panic attack, Like I don't know, what
do you do? You blackout, you fall down, you foam
with the mouth, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Yeah, I've got no concept of any of that. Luckily
knock on something. I'm knocking on something.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Called plastic levet. And he does not fear AI and
he has nothing to do with AI.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
He just avoids. The funny thing is, Dave, I bet,
I bet twenty percent of everything you do these days
is run by AI and you don't even know it.
So you people may try to ignore AI and not
investigate it and not use it, but I guarantee you
it will be running fifty of what your everything you're
(02:41):
doing life within five years will be run by AI.
If not sooner, it's uh yeah. And Dave did mention
that there could be a backlash, and I'm hearing that
more and more now that so so traditional media and
traditional way of doing things could actually make a comeback
(03:05):
because people are going to get so tired of the
A with the the I can't remember what they call it,
the deep fakes, but anyway, so people may start looking
for sources of information media that's more reliable, like a
something on a piece of paper.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Well, go back to the library.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
I mean, go back to the library, Go back to
a newspaper, go back to Yeah, things that can't be
you laughed.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
No, No, I just remember something funny. I tried not
to forget. Oh, okay, so I gotta tell you, okay,
tell me this is related. This relates. So it's down
at the warehouse the other day and one of the
older guys Dale, he was saying something and saying and
it was totally making no sense. Kep looking at me
(03:53):
and goes, you never had a library card, did you.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
That's funny because I remember when I was at Junior
college or no, was it OSU No, I think it
was junior college. We had a weekly news paper, newsletter
thing that they mailed out to the students, and it
had what was happening around the campus, and for for
a couple of months or something, I drew the cartoon
(04:23):
in it. It was kind of like an editorial and
I would do the cartoon in it. And one of
my cartoons was I had this this cartoon character that
had his cap and gown on and it said there
was a sign that said meet at the library, and
the caption was library. There's a library.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
What's a library at the library?
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Yeah, I don't. I don't think I ever. I don't. Actually,
I don't know that did NC have a library. If
n OC had a library, I don't know where it was.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Oh, surely they did, I'm sure they did.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
I don't know why I never went library, and but
I don't. I don't think I ever went to library
and school either. I went to the library as a kid.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Yeah, the downtown library.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Yeah, yeah, but I don't remember ever really going to
the library like in school.
Speaker 6 (05:13):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
I guess we did go to the library Enid High
to play chess, oh oh, in the morning sometimes other
than that, but I never went to check out books
for anything.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
I think didn't go to the library at Waller when
we had sex education. Probably Yeah, And that was awkward word.
I don't know about this lady, and she's telling me
things that I don't want to know. Yeah, I should
have listened.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
To yeah, and Dave Dy've also mentioned that. Yeah, I
have released a new episode of the Zinkies podcast, and
so I've been because it's hot, and I've been out
on the trail and I like the summer. I keep
thinking of all these things I can talk about summer.
So I came up with So, sitting there on a
Saturday afternoon, it's hot, you turn on the box fan,
(06:06):
you just want to relax and watch a movie. I
like to watch adventure movies. So I'm like, Okay, I've
seen this one, I've seen that one. What else is
on my So I thought there's got to be an
ultimate list of summer adventure movies.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Oh yeah, So I.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Started looking and I couldn't find one. You know, there's
lists of adventure movies, and there's lists of summer movies,
but nobody had a list of summer adventure movies. And
I'm talking specific summer adventure movies now, like Goonies is
not in the summer. No, Goonies didn't make my list,
but stand by Me. I did put stand by Me
(06:42):
on my list. So I came up with my ultimate
top twenty summer adventure movies. And we're talking like, well,
Raiders Are Lost, Arc, the Mummy. I did put stand
by Me on there, So this is on you. It's
on Zinkies. Yeah, so it's basically a Flight of the Phoenix,
(07:05):
so basically Anaconda, Trimmers, cong Skull Island. So basically these
are most of them were either set in a jungle
or a desert some of it. Most of them had
big an you know, giant creatures, but the people were
on like a mission or an adventure to find treasure
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or solve something. And so and then even even Disney's
African Cruise with the rock you know, they're going through
the it's a great movie. It's a it's a it's
a great summer adventure movie. And so basically I've I
(07:46):
got a list of twenty of those. They're all in
that genre hot summer jungle adventure outdoorsy and I tried,
and probably Jungle Cruise is probably the most comedic out of.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
All of them, Isn't that loosely based on the African Queen.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
It's loosely based off of the ride at Disney, which
I think was based off of the movie with Humphrey
Bogarf Queen. Yeah, African Queen. Yeah, so yeah, so and
yeah it's a great movie, okay. And so so basically
go and you can go to Curtis Tucker dot com
and I've got it listed on my blog there if
(08:26):
you want to look at the list, and then all
you have to do is listen to the podcast or watch
the video. So anyway, uh, speaking of movies, and I'm
gonna I'm gonna admit something that I'm not sure if
it's true or not.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
But you're gonna admit if it's I'm gonna admit.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Something that I don't. Did you you knew that they
were coming out with a new version of The Running Man?
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Yeah? I heard that.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Well, the trailer is out. I don't know that I've
ever seen the first one.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Oh no, I I know I haven't.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
I don't think i've seen the Arnold Schwarzenegger Running.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Man the previews. That's the one with Richard Dawson.
Speaker 6 (09:07):
Right.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Yes, it looks so silly to me in the previews.
I'm like, I'm not wasting my time watching it.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
See, I don't think I ever watched it either.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
No, you're okay, it's okay if you didn't watch it.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Okay. So now, and I didn't realize according to this,
so there's a new one out and it stars Glenn
Powell who was in Twisters. Oh watching that, and they're
calling it a dystopian black comedy action film. So it's good.
So it's supposed to be a little bit funny. And
I was reading the comments on the trailer and everybody
(09:38):
was slamming it and saying it was never going to
compare to Arnold's and blah blah blah. The thing about
what I've heard about this one is okay. So the
end the storyline is based on a book written by
Richard Bachman, who was is Stephen King. Oh he he
just for a few years. He wrote under the name
(10:02):
Richard Buckman. I think to just see how the books.
I don't know why you did it.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
I'm sure if people are buying the book for the
book or my name or his name.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Yeah, So anyway, I think it was yeah, but I
don't think it was like a full I think it
was a shorter story. And so when they did the
what was it, eighty two, I think yeah, when they
did the eighty or maybe it was a novel. Yeah,
so they the eighty two movie did not stick very
(10:34):
close to the book, to the story, They're saying this one,
this version sticks more to the book, which people I
think are complaining. So basically it's almost like Twisters this
is not a remake of the eighty two movie, like
Twisters was not a remake of Twister. It's a new
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adaption of the original story. So it has nothing to
do with this new running Man, has nothing to do
with the eighty two It's like these people didn't even
know eighty two existed and they made their own version
off of the book. The thing is, which I didn't
know because I didn't watch the movie or read the book,
I guess in the book they he flies a plane
(11:21):
into the Twin Towers. Kid, Yeah, and so everybody. So
they're all saying, if you're staying true to the book,
how does this movie end. There's no way. Yeah, so
I'm guessing they're not flying. That's what I'm from the comments.
I'm assuming a plane was flown into the Twin Towers.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Especially if it's a comedy.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Well, it's not really. It's it's black comedy.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Black comedy. It's not like their joke.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
They have jokes. It's just like, you know, in like
an action scene, he might stop and say, you know,
it's it's not like they're it's not like a comedy.
It's more like in the app action there's some levity
but anyway, the trailer looked really good.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Well, yeah, pretty much. I finally watched a Glen Palm
movie the day, which I hadn't seen. I don't know
why anybody anyone, but you, uh, his rom com that's hilarious.
He's he's I like him.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
He's a good actor. Some people were knocking somebody even
that's funny you say that because one of the comments
was he would have been a better actor in this
if he hadn't done one hundred rom coms. And I'm thinking, okay,
I remember he did one. Let me see what was
his other rom com. I don't think he's done. He
did one freaking rom com.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Well, there was that one where he was it wasn't
really a rom com but hit Man.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Yeah, but again that wasn't really a rom com. That
was kind of a I guess he's got a new
series coming out where he's kind of a weird character
like that in that movie. Really yeah, it's like a
weird He's like a weird baseball player or something. So anyway,
uh so, anyway, if you liked the story from the
(13:03):
book The Running Man, it will be uh. Paramount Pictures
is releasing it on November seventh, twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Oh, it's just right on the corner coming up.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
And then the rotten Tomato scores are coming in a
little low for Jurassic World rebirthprice, which has just come out.
So I found a list of all the Jurassic movies
and this is how they ranked, and I'm just going
to go by critic, not by audience. So if you
(13:37):
want to know the ranking by critics of all the
Jurassic Park movies, here we go. Jurassic Park, the original
ninety one percent. My favorite, sure, Jurassic World, which was
the first world seventy two good movie. I don't know
how this one got in third. I have no idea.
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But the Lost World Jurassic Park, which is number two
in the original series with Jeff Goldbloom by himself where
the dinosaur makes it to the city. Hated that one.
It had a fifty six percent It's the only one
I hate fifty six percent critic rating. Jurassic World Rebirth
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is at fifty four percent, which is the one that
just came out. Jurassic Park three, which I really liked
because it was a lot like one and nothing like two.
It only had a forty nine percent critic and then
Jurassic World Fallen Kingdom forty seven percent and the worst
one on the list, which I think was the last one.
I think Jurassic World Dominion twenty nine percent critic rate coach.
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So there's all your there's your ranking according to the critics.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Well, re Birth not doing bad, then.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
No, and it's still early, so it could you know,
it could gain a little bit with the critics. You
never know, but I don't know anything above fifty. And
sometimes if it's really bad, if the critics really pan it,
it's usually good. So the thing about Jurassic Park, the original,
it had a ninety one percent critic rating and a
ninety one percent audience rating.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Oh so.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Definitely good.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Yeah, and that was that's one of those. It was
a groundbreaking movie since oh yeah it was. I mean
they'd done King Kong and God Zerra and all those others,
but not like this at all or that. And that
was what twenty years ago at least.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Yeah, I mean I remember when it came out and
I was like, wow, I remember the soundtrack.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Yeah, I remember that.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
It was so funny. The first time I got i'd
had my apple what were those called Apple? I can't
even think of what they were called. It was the
little it was the white Apple that you just put
songs on and you just listened to songs on it. Oh,
I can't even think of what they were called the
Apple whatever they just anyway. I remember one of the
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first times I ever took it with me was I
went to the y m c A here in Enid
and I got out of my car. I had it
playing in the car, and I got out and I
had my headphones on and I and it was like
the first time I realized I am walking away from
a vehicle and I'm hearing music and there's like, like
(16:25):
you know, there's like no sic battery double A batteries
in this thing, and there's no moving part. I mean
it's moving. It's digital. It's the first time I realized
I'm walking through a parking lot with digital music in
my ear.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
What the heck was that thing called? I had to
buy three of them one year for Christmas.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Apple. Why can't anything what they were called? The Apple?
Speaker 1 (16:48):
It was the original one.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
It was white and it had this on it.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
It had a screen, didn't it or did it not
have a screen.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
I don't think the original white one had a.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Screen, because later they came out with all different colors.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Well, and then they started coming out with slim ones
and many ones and clip on ones, but the original
original I'm not ready to pause this.
Speaker 7 (17:13):
Yeah, everybody is screaming at their like, I I not iPad, iPod, iPod,
iPod iPod.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
What year did the Apple iPod come out?
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Wo man that stuff?
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Oh yeah, yeah that maybe it did have maybe the
original one did have a screen, but it just.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Oh yeah, big screen.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
I think that, but I don't know if that's the original.
That could be and it's silver. But anyway, I don't
know what.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
My point was there, got off on a tangent.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Anyway. Are you a fan of Valo milk candy.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
I don't think I've ever had one.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
I mean we're talking like nineteen thirties, but they were,
you know, they were around and popular in the seventies.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
I think they're still on the shelf.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Yeah, but they're about to not be unless somebody they
can find a I think they've got some people interested,
but they're being picky about who they want to sell
it to. So the future of Valo milk candy cups
the gooey chocolate and marshmallow treat beloved by generations of Midwesterners,
is in limbo after ninety six years. Russell Seahers, the
(18:30):
seventy seven year old Kansas and native and fourth generation
candy maker, says he's looking for someone to carry on
the legacy of his family's iconic candy, but finding the
right steward hasn't been easy. So basically, they're wanting to
find somebody that's going to continue to make it the
old fashioned way. They don't want somebody to just find
a machine and machine make them. I think they would
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rather the company go bo.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
It tastes the same and looks as good, that's just it.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
I don't think they I guess there's some some process
that they do to make them taste I doubt they're
gonna make them taste the same.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Well, I wasn't gonna go get one, but I better
not now because I'll get hooked on them.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
And that's funny. I almost was gonna leave Callahans and
go by because I almost bet championship.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
No O the fies sooner sooner.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Pharmacy Chefyes know the pharmacy on Gary Gariot and Van
Buren Walgreens, because you know, Walgreens has got the whole
section of oldie candies. Yea, so I'm guessing I almost
bet they've got them. So I was going to run
by there and grab something for the episode, and I
just I didn't. I should have.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Speaking of eating food on air, Derek suggested that we
eat yucky food from the seventies.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Yucky food.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Yeah, now we might.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
We'd have to do that on Facebook Live, Yeah, to
get our facial expressions.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Yeah, but I can't even remember any yucky food.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Oh dude, how about jello with with being a sausages
in it or something.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
No, not that.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Oh no, there's all Oh I could come up. Remember
we did a whole episode on nasty food from the seventies.
All we have to do is we listen to that
episode and we could come up with some pretty gnarly stuff. Yeah,
that might be. That'd be a funny episode. We might.
Speaker 6 (20:21):
We might.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Okay, we'll think about it.
Speaker 6 (20:25):
We might.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
We'll think about it anyway, This is radio.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Yeah, so we were talking at Callahans tonight Toby, Mister
Toby came by. We're talking to Toby and uh so
Elon Musk keeps talking about the population. And so finally
one day I saw something, and so I decided to
delve into it a little more. And there's this thing
(20:51):
called the underpopulation bomb or the depopulation bomb, and it
is happening. And it refers to the potential societal and
economic consequences of declining birth rates and aging populations in
many countries. While global population is growing, many nations are
(21:13):
experiencing fertility rates below the replacement level, leading concerns about
shrinking workforces, strain on social safety nets, and potential economic
stack nations.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
So I guess that's why he's making robots.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Well, see, that was my deal was. I'm thinking, Okay,
Elon is on one hand talking about the population is
not growing like it should, but then on the other hand,
he's creating AI and robots that are going to replace
So do we really need the population to do the
(21:51):
jobs that he's creating robots to do. Maybe we don't
need the you know. So I don't know. It's kind
of a weird, But here's what's happen happening.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
All I know is I did my part to the population.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Yes you did. Well. Here listen to this. I hadn't
realized this worldwide. This is worldwide fertility has fallen from
an average the average used to be in nineteen What
do you think the fertility rate for women in nineteen
fifty was, You mean, like, how many kids? I had?
How many kids on average worldwide in nineteen fifty.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
On average worldwide nineteen fifty?
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Catholics think Catholics.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
I know, I'm thinking I was like five or six.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Five, And guess what it is now two point three
And it's not climbing.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
And that four point three kid, he's just never quite right.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
No, And there they're saying it it's projected to fall
to two.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Point one, So we're going to lose another two two
tenths of a person, an arm and an ear I
call him matt a.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Now by twenty by twenty fifty, so I think they say,
if it drops below two, then your population, you eventually
won't have enough young people to replace the old people
and to sustain.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
And a lot of that's because the boomers are dying off.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Yeah, because we yeah, and technology and living in cities.
People don't I think in the fifties a lot of
people lived on farms and you needed more kids to
do things. And now you're living in a city in
an apartment, Well, you only got room for one or
two kids. You don't have room for five kids in
a New York apartment. And so I think, just different.
(23:35):
There's a whole bunch of different reasons that's going on.
But what we've got to somebody's got to figure out
is and now they're even I read an article that
said even though a whole bunch of people are looking
at this invasion of immigrants from Mexico or that eventually
those countries are going to be not letting people leave
(23:57):
their country because they're being deepopped and so everybody's going
to try to hang on. So the United States in
seventy years could be begging for immigrants to cross the
border because so you never know, you got to be
careful what you wish for out there.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
People. Yeah. Yeah, And the whole Elon thing I was,
I was asking you all we goes, it's trumping Elon
buddies again or not again?
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Or well I think they were just about to patch
things up, and then Elon said something and then Trump
made a bad comment about him, like yesterday, and then
I think today Elon announced that if this big beautiful
bill is passed, which it will be passed. He's going
(24:44):
to start I think he called it the American Party.
I think he's going to start a third party.
Speaker 6 (24:49):
Good.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
I hope he does.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
I don't know if he's going to run, but he's
going to start the party.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
He should not run.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
I don't think he should run.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
No, he would not. I mean he could finance it
and tell him what to do and all good stuff,
but no, he should not.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
I think. I think if we got a middle of
the road female there, you go to be the candidate
I'd vote for in a second sure. So anyway, so
be on the lookout for that. There are other people
trying to get third party started, but it's because of
the way the system is. It's just almost impossible stuff
out there. You've gotta have a lot of money.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Stuff out there trying to make it in the world.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (25:26):
So anyway, Uh, music wise, yep, we've got Christopher Todd
has released his album on Apple Yes.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Apple Music. So we will be talking to him. Are
you gonna you're getting ready to call him?
Speaker 1 (25:44):
It's about that time. It's up to you.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Yeah, let's go ahead and give him Marine Ding. It's
called Love in Space by Christopher Todd Davis.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
What's fun, old Christopher?
Speaker 4 (26:03):
Where are you?
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Hello? What's up man?
Speaker 6 (26:09):
Happy birthday?
Speaker 1 (26:10):
Todd? Oh, thank you, brother, thank you very much, thank you,
thank you.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
He's so old.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
I'm not as old as you.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Hey, now you are?
Speaker 6 (26:17):
Now?
Speaker 1 (26:18):
No, I'll never be as old.
Speaker 6 (26:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
You look at the driver's license. Was to say your
age sixty two?
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Okay, six months after you die, I bury you, then
I'll be as old as yeah.
Speaker 6 (26:26):
Whatever.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Hey, I got a I got a rock and roll
story that I wanted to ask you about. Christopher Todd,
what have you ever heard the story of of Eddie
van Halen trying to be in kiss?
Speaker 6 (26:43):
He h in eighty two, exactly in eighty two when
Ace quit, Eddie was really not jiving on Dave anymore,
and he just said, can id be in case?
Speaker 2 (27:02):
I had never heard that story till today, it would
have never.
Speaker 6 (27:06):
Oh no, yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
Gene Simmon was like, he was like no, because then
we would become van Halen. You know you can't know,
I mean they would. There's no way you could have
Eddie van Halen play.
Speaker 6 (27:22):
Plus at that time. Go ahead and put makeup on him.
All you got to do is use your ears. You
know who that is. Oh yeah, at that time, nobody
played like Eddie, you know, I mean you would have known.
It was just like when beat It came out, you know,
Eddie did that without They had a strict rule in
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Van Halen, you don't do anything outside the band, and
they were kind of all they were on a little
hiatus and Dave was, you know, out on one of
its you know, excursions in the in the jungle somewhere.
So Eddie just went and played on beat It.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
And we all knew it was him.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
I didn't at the time, but I listened out. I
can tell I can.
Speaker 6 (28:12):
And Dave was, you know, driving around and it came
on the radio and he was like what Yeah, he
knew exactly who. Oh yeah, immediately I mean. And you know,
also like Eddie was offered points on that songs, yeah,
because he did some arranging and stuff did the solo.
(28:36):
He just said, no, man, just give me a six pack.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Yeah. I was going to say he didn't get paid
or anything.
Speaker 6 (28:41):
Did he He didn't get paid at all. He just
did it for like, you know, a few beers and
just grins, you know, the opportunity to just hang out.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
Well, it'd be cool to hang out with Michael Jackson.
Speaker 6 (28:51):
Yeah yeah, Quincy, you.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
Know, yeah, anyway, I thought that was it. I mean,
I think Gene would have loved of handing him in
the band, but he just knew the sounds just weren't.
It was just the way.
Speaker 6 (29:07):
Eddie and Alex play on the demos for for two
Gene well Christine sixteen and then I saw him that
ended up on his solo album called Tamael Love. Eddie
and Alex actually played on the demos for that. But
that's why the guitar solo in Christine sixteen sounds so
(29:29):
different than anything Ace whatever play is because when Kiss
recorded it, Gene just said, I want you to play
with Eddie played cool.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
So it's just yeah, And I guess Gene helped when
they were first getting started. He produced the demo recordings
that they gave to Warner Brothers.
Speaker 6 (29:47):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, he tried to get him a deal,
you know, in typical Kiss fashion. The you know, Gene
has gone around for years. You know that I discovered
van Halen if you talked to Paul, Paul's like, actually
I had seen van Halen the night before. I called
Gene and said, hey, you gotta come so they're both
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trying to take credit or it is. But you know Gene,
did you know? He flew him to New York, made demos,
tried to get him a record deal, and at that
time they were like, yeah, nobody was interested in it.
So Jane just said take the demos and you do
keep shopping around. About six months later they got a
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deal and changed music.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (30:32):
Yeah, I don't think there's any band. I mean, obviously
when Hindricks came along, it was mind blowing, but then
I don't think there was anybody else that did that really.
I mean, Boston was exciting, there's things that were exciting.
(30:53):
Kiss was exciting, but I don't think anybody until Van
Halen came along that really was like what is this? Yeah.
I remember being a little kid, I think, you know what,
nine years old, maybe ten, yeah, ten, when I I
(31:15):
was visiting my brother and I was like that eruption
and he really got me. Came on the radio. I
was like, what is this?
Speaker 1 (31:25):
I think I said the same thing. I was a
church I was at church camp at False Creek and
was I was I was going back to the bathroom.
Was a cabin and a guy said one side girls
on one side. I was walking back to the bathroom
on the guy's side, and there was just like rows
of bunks, you know, and this one kid I didn't
even know him, and he was playing this this music
and I said, I think I said the same thing,
(31:45):
like I think I said, who is that? And this
is van Halen. I'm like, what's a van Halen?
Speaker 6 (31:51):
You know, I just unless it's that response, like what
is that? Yeah, I mean, especially at that time, I
just another example of me being born late. I you know,
I should have been able to be going to see
Van Halen live in seventy eight, you know. But it's
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just amazing that. I mean, it's just unlike anything else
I've always said. You know, in nineteen seventy seven, Aliens
visited Earth, they studied rock and roll, and they came
back a year later and said, here, we perfected it
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for you. It's called van Halen. It's just yeah, van
Haalen is. I don't listen to them all the time.
The records are kind of so simple in the production
that it doesn't you don't hear new things every time
(32:59):
you listen to what I'm saying. No, yeah, but it
shouldn't be like that anyway. I'm just saying that that's
probably why I don't revisit as often. But every time
I did, I just get sucked in. I got to
listen to all the David Lee roth era albums because
that's really all I care about. I don't have anything
against the same Agar stuff, but I'm totally a David
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Lee roth Era first.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
You know, they're a lot different.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Yeah, I'm the same way. I'm not a I'm not
a Sammy Hagar van Halen fan at all.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
See, I'm the opposite. I like Van Hagar more than
Van Halen. And I always wondering, you know, so when
when when? When when Van Hagar would tour, did they
play Sammy stuff?
Speaker 6 (33:41):
Did same?
Speaker 1 (33:42):
I mean they do, they do, Dave stuff, gave stuff.
Speaker 6 (33:46):
I think they would only do you know, I know
they did, but it was very few, Like one or
two songs we would like they would do. I think
maybe Jump, maybe Panama. I ain't talking about love, but
it was hardly any at all. They really turned their
(34:08):
back on the material for a long time.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Well, and I think I read an article the other
day that Dave anything that Dave had written, he wouldn't
let them use.
Speaker 6 (34:20):
I get there. I wouldn't doubt there's.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
Some big feud still going on, and Dave wouldn't let
anybody if it. If it, I don't know, there was
something about if he had something something to do with it.
Then even Hagar was like, no, we can't play those
songs anything from that this album or that period or
something because of Dave.
Speaker 6 (34:40):
So and I'm sure Sammy was relieved that he didn't.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Have to do those Oh no shit, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (34:46):
I mean, because you know, Sammy's no Dave and Dave's
no Sammy. It's they both have their thing and they're
both great at I personally think David E. Roth is
one of the greatest frontmen of all time. Yeah. Was
he a great singer? Not really, but he had charisma
(35:08):
and he put on a show like nobody else. And
he wasn't a bad singer, Don't get me wrong. I
just don't think he wasn't. And I don't know what
happened to Dave. It was somewhere around late eighties, early nineties.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (35:22):
I've never heard anybody's voice change as much as Dave's
voice has changed. And it's just I mean, but you know,
I saw this argument on Facebook the other day, like,
you know, I follow this guy. It's called Kicking Harold.
He's really fun to watch. But he he just asked
(35:42):
a question like, well, how do you feel about people
saying that this band or that band should retire already?
And says, you know, who has the right to do that?
You know, I don't think David lee Roth sounds like
he did forty years ago, And unfortunately that kept me
from going to see Van Haalen the last time I
(36:03):
had a chance to, and I really regret that. Yeah,
but do I have the right to say Dave just
needs to retire? No, Dave should retire when Dave's ready
to retire. And when people stopped buying tickets.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
Yeah, we kind of talked.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
We touched on that stuff while ago. About that Frankie Valley.
Speaker 6 (36:24):
Yeah, I haven't heard Frankie in a long time. It's
his voice totally, that's all recorded.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
He doesn't sing. He just his mouth kind of moves
a little bit, and he just kind of steers back
and forth on the stage.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
It's just, yeah, he looks like a zombie. He looks
like it's not really a performance, but he's probably going himself.
Speaker 6 (36:44):
Kids got to that point slightly.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
I mean, oh, not like that.
Speaker 6 (36:50):
Yeah, I mean he wasn't totally lipsticking. I mean, if
that's what he's doing. But I think Paul Stanley started
doing what someone like Britney Spears or where It would do,
where they have a backing tape that it sings probably
fifty of the lines, sixty percent of the lines, and
(37:11):
the and the singer knows that this is the line
coming up that I actually have to deliver. Well yeah, yeah,
I mean, so I'll sing this line, but then the
rest of it they're just Madonna absolutely did it. When
KP and I saw a few years ago, she was
she was just singing along to a track of herself singing, well,
(37:33):
I think.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
Even what are the what are the there's the two
bands that orchestras that go around at Christmas time, trans
and what's the other one?
Speaker 6 (37:46):
I just know there's two versions of Transfer.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
I think I think it was the other one came
to Enid and you could if you were standing on
the side, you could tell that the like the violin
players weren't. It was kind of like they did the
same thing, like they had They must have had a
track going because they weren't playing the whole time. You
could if you watch them really close. A lot of
the like violinists and stuff weren't playing the whole time.
Speaker 6 (38:11):
I don't know get that. I'm sorry. I just don't
get that right. I just don't get it. I don't
get me wrong. I played in a dance band for
ten years, and probably for the songs. Sometimes we would
have a keyboard track playing and the drummer would play
(38:34):
to a kick, so the keyboard would play in time,
but we were playing live to it. I don't get
the multiple instrument you know, the aerosmypic ben I was
and we did everything live. We didn't use any backing
tracks at all. And we played a theater one night
and this guy goes, wow, I mean you guys really
(38:57):
play And I was like, yeah, he goes, the band
that I had in here last week, and it's kind
of a really well known local tribute band. He said,
the band we had in here last week. Man, he goes,
the tracks went down. It was a train wreck. It
(39:20):
happened to me once because of in that band. I
was in that dance band. There was a I forget
what song it was, but there was additional guitar on
it on this track, and I asked him to remove it.
He's I can't remove it. I was like, all right, whatever.
So over time I started to get really lazy playing
that song because the track was doing the bulk. And
(39:48):
one night our tracks went down and I found out
very fast I didn't know how to play that song.
I was like, oh, no, this gonna happen again, No way.
So I just don't understand it when major rock bands
do that.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
Yeah, so hey, before we run out of time, tell
us all about your album where they can find it,
name of it, all that good stuff.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
It's out now.
Speaker 6 (40:20):
It's how about that it's out. It was actually out
on Todd's birthday.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
Yeah, so you didn't have to wait for my birthday.
Speaker 6 (40:32):
It's crazy. We went to upload it this morning because
we were messing out that last night and getting prepared
for It's like, oh, it's already up. It's been up
since last night. But yeah, it's so it's it's going
to be on all the streaming services. But right now,
I know for sure it's on you know, Amazon Music.
Speaker 5 (40:55):
And yeah it's but it's going to be on Spotify,
it's on Apple, right it's on Apple and it's yeah,
it's yeah Apple Music.
Speaker 6 (41:07):
Well that is Amazon and Apple Music the same thing.
Speaker 2 (41:09):
No, no, no.
Speaker 6 (41:11):
So it's on both those. It's on the other ones
I don't even I've never heard of, beside Spotify, which
last I checked it wasn't up there yet. Some of them,
some of them take a few days. But yeah, yeah,
I didn't know when I woke up this one as like, oh, well, okay,
(41:32):
here we go.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
Cool and it's called Love in Space.
Speaker 6 (41:37):
Yes, Christopher Davis, Love in Space.
Speaker 2 (41:41):
And it's funny. I didn't know when you were were
releasing it. But I was doing some late work last
night and I literally turned it on again and listened
to the whole damn thing again last night before I
went to bed.
Speaker 6 (41:55):
That's awesome.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
So I mean it again. If it was on vinyl,
it definitely would be in my rotation to play, you know,
on a regular basis. It's it's a good it's a
good album. Dude, you did good. I'm proud of you.
Speaker 6 (42:09):
Thank you man.
Speaker 1 (42:10):
And I apologize I have not had a chance to
listen to you yet.
Speaker 6 (42:14):
I've been see that's why I didn't send it to you.
Speaker 1 (42:16):
And well, well, okay, listen listen. I I don't have
like where I'm working, I can't just you know, because
there's loud and other stuff. I am supposed to go
to this Oklahoma city tomorrow. It's you know, it's an
hour and a half there and back or there one way,
so I have plenty of time to listen to it
in my truck.
Speaker 6 (42:36):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
So I have no excuses unless I just forget.
Speaker 6 (42:40):
See I listened. I have had phones all day when
I'm working. Yeah, lately, man, it's just been podcasts. So
I listened to the Zonks podcast today, Curtis.
Speaker 2 (42:51):
The Summer Venture movies.
Speaker 1 (42:54):
Yeah, yeah, cool.
Speaker 6 (42:56):
I'm getting excited about your book. That's cool man.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
I it's every day I wake up and I'm like, yes,
I get to write a little bit more. I mean
it's I'm afraid when I when I'm done with it,
I'm going to.
Speaker 1 (43:08):
Have this weird withdrawal.
Speaker 2 (43:09):
Withdrawal sad blank feeling.
Speaker 6 (43:13):
That's I can tell you. It's absolutely what Yeah, because
now other than promoting for the next you know, however long,
I don't like what am I going to do next?
You know, it's been a year and a half working
on this album. You know, now. And this is the
part I hate. I hate promoting myself. I hate going, hey,
(43:39):
please listen to my viusic Pse, please go buy my record.
I just hate that part.
Speaker 1 (43:46):
Well, we promote you as much as we can.
Speaker 6 (43:50):
But yeah, I think that's one thing I want to
do next too. This is my buddy Chad that passed
away a couple of years ago. We've been working on
a screenplay and then I kind of want to try
and focus on that for a while.
Speaker 1 (44:11):
Well I haven't, like I said, I haven't had a
chance to hear yet, but I understand it's a it's
a whole story. Yeah, yeah, so could you turn that
into a movie?
Speaker 6 (44:22):
Uh? You know, I have a guy, the guy I
was telling you about from Chicago, just kind of learning
the AI thing character thing, and yeah, he's like, you know,
right out the script, man, I want to turn the
whole album into a like an animate an animated movie
like yeah, you bad man. It'd be like mine, Harry
(44:44):
Nielsen the point. But so, yeah, that's that's been talked
about too. It's just some of that stuff just takes
so long. It's you know, I and really quickly that
you know, I was going to wait to say anything
about the album being out until I could make a video,
(45:06):
and it's like, hey, it's really taking a long time.
So I didn't want to wait that much long. Then
turn around a buddy Ken who was going to play
drums in it. He he broke his arm last week.
We have a couple, we have a couple a couple
of gigs coming up that we had to cancel because, yeah,
(45:29):
he fell off a ladder. Poor guy. And then he
was walking around for like a week with like an
ace bandage. I mean it had a brace inside of
the bandage, but he was walking around for a week
with just that. And then he went in today to
have it, you know, looked at by a special dist
and like, oh, yeah, your risk is broken. And so
then now he's got a full cast and he fell
(45:49):
off a ladder at work.
Speaker 1 (45:53):
Well, at least you know you're up there in that
part of the country. There's a lot of talent up
there that can do videos.
Speaker 4 (45:58):
And.
Speaker 6 (46:00):
You know, and I like doing it. I've done videos
in the past, but I kind of want to incorporate
some of the stuff from the story into it. So
been working with AI scenes and stuff, and it's really cool.
Speaker 4 (46:15):
Man.
Speaker 6 (46:15):
He's the movie has characters. It's I would say it
has three real characters. It has the guy, the girl,
you know, the girl, and the spaceship, which all are
their own characters. Kind of, he's kind of got it
dialed into where tell me what you wanted to do,
and it's like and he just kind of writes the description.
(46:37):
AI knows that, Okay, it's the girl, this is what
we want her to do, and there was if you
write out that description really well, it'll do it.
Speaker 2 (46:49):
Yeah, it's it's crazy.
Speaker 6 (46:50):
Yeah, it's pretty amazing, man. And then he sent me
one today of the of the guy character in the
story and it's like, well, it doesn't look like how
I envisioned him looking like the example photos I sent you,
but it's great. He goes, Okay, give me a little time,
(47:11):
and he comes back and it's the same thing, but
now he looks exactly like I envisioned him. I was like, wow, wow, yeah,
because I told him I girl I wanted to look
like as I want the guy to look like a
cross between Silly and Murphy and Adrian Brody. And that's
what it is. That's exactly how it looks.
Speaker 2 (47:30):
Ay, I can do that. Wow, whereas whereas an actor couldn't.
Speaker 6 (47:36):
Right. But yeah, those songs Curtis are it's pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (47:44):
It's kind of crazy. Yeah, I mean, it took a
lot of work to get those because it you can't
manipulate it really at all. You just you just feed
your lyrics in and then there's like thirty choices of
of the kind of sounds you want, and you pick
up to five out of the thirty and every time
(48:07):
you pick a different five or two or one gives
you almost a whole different song and the lyrics are different.
And so man, I mean I do like I think
I did both of those like thirty times before I
finally was like, oh that kind of sounds like what
I kind of had, you know.
Speaker 6 (48:24):
As I mean the first song though, is it's very modern, yeah,
you know, yeah, it doesn't really sound seventy no, no,
it sounds very much like a blinkin eighty two or exactly.
Speaker 2 (48:41):
And that's and I'm kind of into that alternative music.
I mean, I love alternative music now and so and
that's what it was for.
Speaker 1 (48:47):
It was more for I.
Speaker 2 (48:50):
Don't know, a promotion of the movie, like a trailer
background sound, because any seventy song. You know, I'm gonna
have to pay for if somebody else did it and
I couldn't get it to I couldn't get it to
make a seventy song. I tried.
Speaker 1 (49:06):
That's all I heard.
Speaker 6 (49:07):
It heard an interview with Jeremy Piven recently and they
were asking him, I forget what movie.
Speaker 1 (49:15):
I think it was.
Speaker 6 (49:16):
Richard link Later movie that he was in. I'm not
sure which one, and he was only in it briefly,
but Richard really wanted him in the movie. And so
he goes, you know, just kind of vamp, do your
Jeremy Piven thing, And so Jeremy started singing like whatever
(49:36):
in the scene, he sang a little bit of a
David Bowie song and a little bit of something else song.
He goes. And then I found out years later that
Richard lank Later hates me now because because I sang
no songs, it costs him about two hundred thousand dollars.
I have no idea it costs that much for song
license in a movie.
Speaker 2 (49:58):
It's crazy, wow the same.
Speaker 6 (50:02):
So that's why a lot of times you just don't
hear a bolt. Can you imagine what a movie like
Dayson Confused must have cost.
Speaker 2 (50:08):
Yeah, and yeah, we and I've you know, we did
an whole episode on dayson Confused and we did talk
about h he had. We've gotten some interviews and he
talked about the cost. I can't remember what it was,
but yeah, it was outrageous.
Speaker 6 (50:22):
And that that's gonna be insane.
Speaker 2 (50:24):
Yeah, and so that's why, Yeah, doing a movie, doing
my movie, you know, that's gonna be the big factor.
Is am I gonna have money to put actual seventy
songs in there? So right, we'll see. If not, You're
gonna have to write a lot of seventy songs, dude.
Speaker 6 (50:43):
Yeah, I'm gonna have to write songs that sound like
writing a song that sounds like Jackie Blue, but isn't
Jackie Blue.
Speaker 2 (50:51):
Well, you know there there are there are places out
there where you can get royalty free music and it's
lie like, say there's a song like Boston is like
one two three one one two three one. These people
will make the song like one two three three one
two three, and it's almost the same thing, but they
(51:12):
just change it enough that they can get by legally.
But yeah, and so, and you know, I would hate
to do that.
Speaker 6 (51:21):
A He did a really good Kiss Biography a couple
of years ago, and I really I still watch it,
you know, probably a couple of times a year because
it's well done. But it kind of drives me nuts
because there's only like a few real kiss songs in it,
and then the rest of it is songs that sound
(51:43):
like it could be kissed. Yeah, and I just as
a huge kiss fan, I'm like, eh.
Speaker 2 (51:49):
And think how much better it would be with full
of kiss songs.
Speaker 6 (51:54):
Well, that's just it. I can't come on, can't we?
But it has to do with that, Yeah, it has
to do with the licensing of it. And usually bands
don't own their publishing, and it's not really up to
them to say, this is a documentary about us, so
we want our music. It's usually not really up to them.
And that's so that's why, you know, one like Bob Seger,
(52:17):
if they did went on Bob Seger, it had Bob
Seger music because Bob Singer has always maintained his own publishing.
Billy Squire has always maintained his own publishing. They can
do whatever they want, but.
Speaker 2 (52:31):
More and more of more and more of them are
selling them and in the Stones and Fleetwood, Mac and
a lot of the Baby.
Speaker 6 (52:41):
I don't know how that's working now. I mean, they
retained certain rights, but as far as I can tell,
they sold the characters, they sold, the catalog they sold,
and so they're working on a biopic. It's like, how's
that work. They're gonna have to pay somebody else. Yeah,
(53:02):
I don't know. I imagine Jean's smart enough that he
put in Yeah it's really yours, but we have the
right to do this.
Speaker 1 (53:09):
Yeah, but yeah, he's a smart guy.
Speaker 2 (53:13):
Yeah, crazy, Yeah, Okay, So all right, fellas everybody, Uh
love in space. You guys go find it. Let us
know what you guys think. Five eight ZHO five fur
one three oh five or buzz buzzdmedia dot com. And uh,
we appreciate you being back on the show. And I
really love the album. Toddy's going to give it a
(53:35):
listen tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (53:35):
If he doesn't forget, I'll listen tomorrow and I'll have
my review next Tuesday. Oh, next Tuesday's life. You can
review it live, okay, yeah, sure, yeah?
Speaker 2 (53:47):
And I mean, so what, so here's a question for you.
Could we play like a snippet? I think maybe have
we played a snippet of a song?
Speaker 6 (53:56):
Yeah? You can do it.
Speaker 2 (53:57):
I was gonna say, because you you had, you had
sent a satellite girl, and I think we might have
played a little bit of it. But yeah, so we
might play a little bit of a song or two
here and there just to help promote it.
Speaker 1 (54:07):
So cool, cool, okay, cool, all right, baby, said Hika.
Speaker 6 (54:14):
She says, Hi, okay, good deal. Talk to you guys later.
Speaker 2 (54:20):
All right, okay, you guys. I mean, yeah, it's really cool.
It's like I said, it's to me, it's got a
lot of David Bowie vibe. And so let me know,
let me know what you what vibe it gives you.
But we've heard Christopher Todd long enough that it's a
(54:40):
definite Christopher Todd vibe For a lot of you that
have never heard him, you're going to probably it's going
to remind you of something other than Christopher Todd if
you haven't heard him. So anyway, let us know, U
guys check it out Love in Space and again, it's
kind of one of those out albums where each song
(55:02):
kind of flows into the next song, so be prepared
for you know, not a lot of gaps. It just
kind of goes. It's about forty eight minutes long, so
check it out and let us know what you think.
And uh, we're gonna get out of here. Cheer Raudio.
It's hid Radio, Close Radio, Close hit Radio.
Uh, Denise, you don't know how lucky you are. Okay,
now we gotta play wom womp wam. Something red just
slid across the screen. What the hag did you do
to my? Here we go?
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Did you get your.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Let's hit radio, Let's hit radio, Let's hut radio.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
Oh hey, welcome back to.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
July Firth.
Speaker 5 (00:57):
Five.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
We're doing things a little different around here now. Todd's
just blamed the song all willing illy, if the song
if the songs are sounding a little different because they're
a little willing illy these days.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
I didn't even have the time to listen to Christopher Todd.
Dobbin g me.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Okay, well, welcome to another episode of the Buzzhead You podcast.
Hit us up at five eight oh five four one
three eighth five. That is your Buzzhead hotline or email
buzz at buzzheadmedia dot com. And Dave knows the number,
because Dave gone Dave God.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Yeah, he had some stuff over there at the old
seventies buzz podcast, which you can listen to anytime. Darn
uh he did talk about this week on Bushead Radio.
Uh panic attacks. I guess he'd never had a panic attack.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
I've never had a panic.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
I've never had a panic attack, but I was like,
I'd get like an anxiety at Like it's like, h so,
you know, a panic attack, Like I don't know, what
do you do? You blackout, you fall down, you foam
with the mouth, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Yeah, I've got no concept of any of that. Luckily
knock on something. I'm knocking on something.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Called plastic levet. And he does not fear AI and
he has nothing to do with AI.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
He just avoids. The funny thing is, Dave, I bet,
I bet twenty percent of everything you do these days
is run by AI and you don't even know it.
So you people may try to ignore AI and not
investigate it and not use it, but I guarantee you
it will be running fifty of what your everything you're
(02:41):
doing life within five years will be run by AI.
If not sooner, it's uh yeah. And Dave did mention
that there could be a backlash, and I'm hearing that
more and more now that so so traditional media and
traditional way of doing things could actually make a comeback
(03:05):
because people are going to get so tired of the
A with the the I can't remember what they call it,
the deep fakes, but anyway, so people may start looking
for sources of information media that's more reliable, like a
something on a piece of paper.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Well, go back to the library.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
I mean, go back to the library, Go back to
a newspaper, go back to Yeah, things that can't be
you laughed.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
No, No, I just remember something funny. I tried not
to forget. Oh, okay, so I gotta tell you, okay,
tell me this is related. This relates. So it's down
at the warehouse the other day and one of the
older guys Dale, he was saying something and saying and
it was totally making no sense. Kep looking at me
(03:53):
and goes, you never had a library card, did you.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
That's funny because I remember when I was at Junior
college or no, was it OSU No, I think it
was junior college. We had a weekly news paper, newsletter
thing that they mailed out to the students, and it
had what was happening around the campus, and for for
a couple of months or something, I drew the cartoon
(04:23):
in it. It was kind of like an editorial and
I would do the cartoon in it. And one of
my cartoons was I had this this cartoon character that
had his cap and gown on and it said there
was a sign that said meet at the library, and
the caption was library. There's a library.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
What's a library at the library?
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Yeah, I don't. I don't think I ever. I don't. Actually,
I don't know that did NC have a library. If
n OC had a library, I don't know where it was.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Oh, surely they did, I'm sure they did.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
I don't know why I never went library, and but
I don't. I don't think I ever went to library
and school either. I went to the library as a kid.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Yeah, the downtown library.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Yeah, yeah, but I don't remember ever really going to
the library like in school.
Speaker 6 (05:13):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
I guess we did go to the library Enid High
to play chess, oh oh, in the morning sometimes other
than that, but I never went to check out books
for anything.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
I think didn't go to the library at Waller when
we had sex education. Probably Yeah, And that was awkward word.
I don't know about this lady, and she's telling me
things that I don't want to know. Yeah, I should
have listened.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
To yeah, and Dave Dy've also mentioned that. Yeah, I
have released a new episode of the Zinkies podcast, and
so I've been because it's hot, and I've been out
on the trail and I like the summer. I keep
thinking of all these things I can talk about summer.
So I came up with So, sitting there on a
Saturday afternoon, it's hot, you turn on the box fan,
(06:06):
you just want to relax and watch a movie. I
like to watch adventure movies. So I'm like, Okay, I've
seen this one, I've seen that one. What else is
on my So I thought there's got to be an
ultimate list of summer adventure movies.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Oh yeah, So I.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Started looking and I couldn't find one. You know, there's
lists of adventure movies, and there's lists of summer movies,
but nobody had a list of summer adventure movies. And
I'm talking specific summer adventure movies now, like Goonies is
not in the summer. No, Goonies didn't make my list,
but stand by Me. I did put stand by Me
(06:42):
on my list. So I came up with my ultimate
top twenty summer adventure movies. And we're talking like, well,
Raiders Are Lost, Arc, the Mummy. I did put stand
by Me on there, So this is on you. It's
on Zinkies. Yeah, so it's basically a Flight of the Phoenix,
(07:05):
so basically Anaconda, Trimmers, cong Skull Island. So basically these
are most of them were either set in a jungle
or a desert some of it. Most of them had
big an you know, giant creatures, but the people were
on like a mission or an adventure to find treasure
(07:26):
or solve something. And so and then even even Disney's
African Cruise with the rock you know, they're going through
the it's a great movie. It's a it's a it's
a great summer adventure movie. And so basically I've I
(07:46):
got a list of twenty of those. They're all in
that genre hot summer jungle adventure outdoorsy and I tried,
and probably Jungle Cruise is probably the most comedic out of.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
All of them, Isn't that loosely based on the African Queen.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
It's loosely based off of the ride at Disney, which
I think was based off of the movie with Humphrey
Bogarf Queen. Yeah, African Queen. Yeah, so yeah, so and
yeah it's a great movie, okay. And so so basically
go and you can go to Curtis Tucker dot com
and I've got it listed on my blog there if
(08:26):
you want to look at the list, and then all
you have to do is listen to the podcast or watch
the video. So anyway, uh, speaking of movies, and I'm
gonna I'm gonna admit something that I'm not sure if
it's true or not.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
But you're gonna admit if it's I'm gonna admit.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Something that I don't. Did you you knew that they
were coming out with a new version of The Running Man?
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Yeah? I heard that.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Well, the trailer is out. I don't know that I've
ever seen the first one.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Oh no, I I know I haven't.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
I don't think i've seen the Arnold Schwarzenegger Running.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Man the previews. That's the one with Richard Dawson.
Speaker 6 (09:07):
Right.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Yes, it looks so silly to me in the previews.
I'm like, I'm not wasting my time watching it.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
See, I don't think I ever watched it either.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
No, you're okay, it's okay if you didn't watch it.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Okay. So now, and I didn't realize according to this,
so there's a new one out and it stars Glenn
Powell who was in Twisters. Oh watching that, and they're
calling it a dystopian black comedy action film. So it's good.
So it's supposed to be a little bit funny. And
I was reading the comments on the trailer and everybody
(09:38):
was slamming it and saying it was never going to
compare to Arnold's and blah blah blah. The thing about
what I've heard about this one is okay. So the
end the storyline is based on a book written by
Richard Bachman, who was is Stephen King. Oh he he
just for a few years. He wrote under the name
(10:02):
Richard Buckman. I think to just see how the books.
I don't know why you did it.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
I'm sure if people are buying the book for the
book or my name or his name.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Yeah, So anyway, I think it was yeah, but I
don't think it was like a full I think it
was a shorter story. And so when they did the
what was it, eighty two, I think yeah, when they
did the eighty or maybe it was a novel. Yeah,
so they the eighty two movie did not stick very
(10:34):
close to the book, to the story, They're saying this one,
this version sticks more to the book, which people I
think are complaining. So basically it's almost like Twisters this
is not a remake of the eighty two movie, like
Twisters was not a remake of Twister. It's a new
(10:57):
adaption of the original story. So it has nothing to
do with this new running Man, has nothing to do
with the eighty two It's like these people didn't even
know eighty two existed and they made their own version
off of the book. The thing is, which I didn't
know because I didn't watch the movie or read the book,
I guess in the book they he flies a plane
(11:21):
into the Twin Towers. Kid, Yeah, and so everybody. So
they're all saying, if you're staying true to the book,
how does this movie end. There's no way. Yeah, so
I'm guessing they're not flying. That's what I'm from the comments.
I'm assuming a plane was flown into the Twin Towers.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Especially if it's a comedy.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Well, it's not really. It's it's black comedy.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Black comedy. It's not like their joke.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
They have jokes. It's just like, you know, in like
an action scene, he might stop and say, you know,
it's it's not like they're it's not like a comedy.
It's more like in the app action there's some levity
but anyway, the trailer looked really good.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Well, yeah, pretty much. I finally watched a Glen Palm
movie the day, which I hadn't seen. I don't know
why anybody anyone, but you, uh, his rom com that's hilarious.
He's he's I like him.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
He's a good actor. Some people were knocking somebody even
that's funny you say that because one of the comments
was he would have been a better actor in this
if he hadn't done one hundred rom coms. And I'm thinking, okay,
I remember he did one. Let me see what was
his other rom com. I don't think he's done. He
did one freaking rom com.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Well, there was that one where he was it wasn't
really a rom com but hit Man.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Yeah, but again that wasn't really a rom com. That
was kind of a I guess he's got a new
series coming out where he's kind of a weird character
like that in that movie. Really yeah, it's like a
weird He's like a weird baseball player or something. So anyway,
uh so, anyway, if you liked the story from the
(13:03):
book The Running Man, it will be uh. Paramount Pictures
is releasing it on November seventh, twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Oh, it's just right on the corner coming up.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
And then the rotten Tomato scores are coming in a
little low for Jurassic World rebirthprice, which has just come out.
So I found a list of all the Jurassic movies
and this is how they ranked, and I'm just going
to go by critic, not by audience. So if you
(13:37):
want to know the ranking by critics of all the
Jurassic Park movies, here we go. Jurassic Park, the original
ninety one percent. My favorite, sure, Jurassic World, which was
the first world seventy two good movie. I don't know
how this one got in third. I have no idea.
(13:58):
But the Lost World Jurassic Park, which is number two
in the original series with Jeff Goldbloom by himself where
the dinosaur makes it to the city. Hated that one.
It had a fifty six percent It's the only one
I hate fifty six percent critic rating. Jurassic World Rebirth
(14:19):
is at fifty four percent, which is the one that
just came out. Jurassic Park three, which I really liked
because it was a lot like one and nothing like two.
It only had a forty nine percent critic and then
Jurassic World Fallen Kingdom forty seven percent and the worst
one on the list, which I think was the last one.
I think Jurassic World Dominion twenty nine percent critic rate coach.
(14:45):
So there's all your there's your ranking according to the critics.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Well, re Birth not doing bad, then.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
No, and it's still early, so it could you know,
it could gain a little bit with the critics. You
never know, but I don't know anything above fifty. And
sometimes if it's really bad, if the critics really pan it,
it's usually good. So the thing about Jurassic Park, the original,
it had a ninety one percent critic rating and a
ninety one percent audience rating.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Oh so.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Definitely good.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Yeah, and that was that's one of those. It was
a groundbreaking movie since oh yeah it was. I mean
they'd done King Kong and God Zerra and all those others,
but not like this at all or that. And that
was what twenty years ago at least.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Yeah, I mean I remember when it came out and
I was like, wow, I remember the soundtrack.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Yeah, I remember that.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
It was so funny. The first time I got i'd
had my apple what were those called Apple? I can't
even think of what they were called. It was the
little it was the white Apple that you just put
songs on and you just listened to songs on it. Oh,
I can't even think of what they were called the
Apple whatever they just anyway. I remember one of the
(16:03):
first times I ever took it with me was I
went to the y m c A here in Enid
and I got out of my car. I had it
playing in the car, and I got out and I
had my headphones on and I and it was like
the first time I realized I am walking away from
a vehicle and I'm hearing music and there's like, like
(16:25):
you know, there's like no sic battery double A batteries
in this thing, and there's no moving part. I mean
it's moving. It's digital. It's the first time I realized
I'm walking through a parking lot with digital music in
my ear.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
What the heck was that thing called? I had to
buy three of them one year for Christmas.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Apple. Why can't anything what they were called? The Apple?
Speaker 1 (16:48):
It was the original one.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
It was white and it had this on it.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
It had a screen, didn't it or did it not
have a screen.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
I don't think the original white one had a.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Screen, because later they came out with all different colors.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Well, and then they started coming out with slim ones
and many ones and clip on ones, but the original
original I'm not ready to pause this.
Speaker 7 (17:13):
Yeah, everybody is screaming at their like, I I not iPad, iPod, iPod,
iPod iPod.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
What year did the Apple iPod come out?
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Wo man that stuff?
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Oh yeah, yeah that maybe it did have maybe the
original one did have a screen, but it just.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Oh yeah, big screen.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
I think that, but I don't know if that's the original.
That could be and it's silver. But anyway, I don't
know what.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
My point was there, got off on a tangent.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Anyway. Are you a fan of Valo milk candy.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
I don't think I've ever had one.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
I mean we're talking like nineteen thirties, but they were,
you know, they were around and popular in the seventies.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
I think they're still on the shelf.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Yeah, but they're about to not be unless somebody they
can find a I think they've got some people interested,
but they're being picky about who they want to sell
it to. So the future of Valo milk candy cups
the gooey chocolate and marshmallow treat beloved by generations of Midwesterners,
is in limbo after ninety six years. Russell Seahers, the
(18:30):
seventy seven year old Kansas and native and fourth generation
candy maker, says he's looking for someone to carry on
the legacy of his family's iconic candy, but finding the
right steward hasn't been easy. So basically, they're wanting to
find somebody that's going to continue to make it the
old fashioned way. They don't want somebody to just find
a machine and machine make them. I think they would
(18:53):
rather the company go bo.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
It tastes the same and looks as good, that's just it.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
I don't think they I guess there's some some process
that they do to make them taste I doubt they're
gonna make them taste the same.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Well, I wasn't gonna go get one, but I better
not now because I'll get hooked on them.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
And that's funny. I almost was gonna leave Callahans and
go by because I almost bet championship.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
No O the fies sooner sooner.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Pharmacy Chefyes know the pharmacy on Gary Gariot and Van
Buren Walgreens, because you know, Walgreens has got the whole
section of oldie candies. Yea, so I'm guessing I almost
bet they've got them. So I was going to run
by there and grab something for the episode, and I
just I didn't. I should have.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Speaking of eating food on air, Derek suggested that we
eat yucky food from the seventies.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Yucky food.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Yeah, now we might.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
We'd have to do that on Facebook Live, Yeah, to
get our facial expressions.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Yeah, but I can't even remember any yucky food.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Oh dude, how about jello with with being a sausages
in it or something.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
No, not that.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Oh no, there's all Oh I could come up. Remember
we did a whole episode on nasty food from the seventies.
All we have to do is we listen to that
episode and we could come up with some pretty gnarly stuff. Yeah,
that might be. That'd be a funny episode. We might.
Speaker 6 (20:21):
We might.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Okay, we'll think about it.
Speaker 6 (20:25):
We might.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
We'll think about it anyway, This is radio.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Yeah, so we were talking at Callahans tonight Toby, Mister
Toby came by. We're talking to Toby and uh so
Elon Musk keeps talking about the population. And so finally
one day I saw something, and so I decided to
delve into it a little more. And there's this thing
(20:51):
called the underpopulation bomb or the depopulation bomb, and it
is happening. And it refers to the potential societal and
economic consequences of declining birth rates and aging populations in
many countries. While global population is growing, many nations are
(21:13):
experiencing fertility rates below the replacement level, leading concerns about
shrinking workforces, strain on social safety nets, and potential economic
stack nations.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
So I guess that's why he's making robots.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Well, see, that was my deal was. I'm thinking, Okay,
Elon is on one hand talking about the population is
not growing like it should, but then on the other hand,
he's creating AI and robots that are going to replace
So do we really need the population to do the
(21:51):
jobs that he's creating robots to do. Maybe we don't
need the you know. So I don't know. It's kind
of a weird, But here's what's happen happening.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
All I know is I did my part to the population.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Yes you did. Well. Here listen to this. I hadn't
realized this worldwide. This is worldwide fertility has fallen from
an average the average used to be in nineteen What
do you think the fertility rate for women in nineteen
fifty was, You mean, like, how many kids? I had?
How many kids on average worldwide in nineteen fifty.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
On average worldwide nineteen fifty?
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Catholics think Catholics.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
I know, I'm thinking I was like five or six.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Five, And guess what it is now two point three
And it's not climbing.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
And that four point three kid, he's just never quite right.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
No, And there they're saying it it's projected to fall
to two.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Point one, So we're going to lose another two two
tenths of a person, an arm and an ear I
call him matt a.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Now by twenty by twenty fifty, so I think they say,
if it drops below two, then your population, you eventually
won't have enough young people to replace the old people
and to sustain.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
And a lot of that's because the boomers are dying off.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Yeah, because we yeah, and technology and living in cities.
People don't I think in the fifties a lot of
people lived on farms and you needed more kids to
do things. And now you're living in a city in
an apartment, Well, you only got room for one or
two kids. You don't have room for five kids in
a New York apartment. And so I think, just different.
(23:35):
There's a whole bunch of different reasons that's going on.
But what we've got to somebody's got to figure out
is and now they're even I read an article that
said even though a whole bunch of people are looking
at this invasion of immigrants from Mexico or that eventually
those countries are going to be not letting people leave
(23:57):
their country because they're being deepopped and so everybody's going
to try to hang on. So the United States in
seventy years could be begging for immigrants to cross the
border because so you never know, you got to be
careful what you wish for out there.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
People. Yeah. Yeah, And the whole Elon thing I was,
I was asking you all we goes, it's trumping Elon
buddies again or not again?
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Or well I think they were just about to patch
things up, and then Elon said something and then Trump
made a bad comment about him, like yesterday, and then
I think today Elon announced that if this big beautiful
bill is passed, which it will be passed. He's going
(24:44):
to start I think he called it the American Party.
I think he's going to start a third party.
Speaker 6 (24:49):
Good.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
I hope he does.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
I don't know if he's going to run, but he's
going to start the party.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
He should not run.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
I don't think he should run.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
No, he would not. I mean he could finance it
and tell him what to do and all good stuff,
but no, he should not.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
I think. I think if we got a middle of
the road female there, you go to be the candidate
I'd vote for in a second sure. So anyway, so
be on the lookout for that. There are other people
trying to get third party started, but it's because of
the way the system is. It's just almost impossible stuff
out there. You've gotta have a lot of money.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Stuff out there trying to make it in the world.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (25:26):
So anyway, Uh, music wise, yep, we've got Christopher Todd
has released his album on Apple Yes.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Apple Music. So we will be talking to him. Are
you gonna you're getting ready to call him?
Speaker 1 (25:44):
It's about that time. It's up to you.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Yeah, let's go ahead and give him Marine Ding. It's
called Love in Space by Christopher Todd Davis.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
What's fun, old Christopher?
Speaker 4 (26:03):
Where are you?
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Hello? What's up man?
Speaker 6 (26:09):
Happy birthday?
Speaker 1 (26:10):
Todd? Oh, thank you, brother, thank you very much, thank you,
thank you.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
He's so old.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
I'm not as old as you.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Hey, now you are?
Speaker 6 (26:17):
Now?
Speaker 1 (26:18):
No, I'll never be as old.
Speaker 6 (26:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
You look at the driver's license. Was to say your
age sixty two?
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Okay, six months after you die, I bury you, then
I'll be as old as yeah.
Speaker 6 (26:26):
Whatever.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Hey, I got a I got a rock and roll
story that I wanted to ask you about. Christopher Todd,
what have you ever heard the story of of Eddie
van Halen trying to be in kiss?
Speaker 6 (26:43):
He h in eighty two, exactly in eighty two when
Ace quit, Eddie was really not jiving on Dave anymore,
and he just said, can id be in case?
Speaker 2 (27:02):
I had never heard that story till today, it would
have never.
Speaker 6 (27:06):
Oh no, yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
Gene Simmon was like, he was like no, because then
we would become van Halen. You know you can't know,
I mean they would. There's no way you could have
Eddie van Halen play.
Speaker 6 (27:22):
Plus at that time. Go ahead and put makeup on him.
All you got to do is use your ears. You
know who that is. Oh yeah, at that time, nobody
played like Eddie, you know, I mean you would have known.
It was just like when beat It came out, you know,
Eddie did that without They had a strict rule in
(27:42):
Van Halen, you don't do anything outside the band, and
they were kind of all they were on a little
hiatus and Dave was, you know, out on one of
its you know, excursions in the in the jungle somewhere.
So Eddie just went and played on beat It.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
And we all knew it was him.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
I didn't at the time, but I listened out. I
can tell I can.
Speaker 6 (28:12):
And Dave was, you know, driving around and it came
on the radio and he was like what Yeah, he
knew exactly who. Oh yeah, immediately I mean. And you know,
also like Eddie was offered points on that songs, yeah,
because he did some arranging and stuff did the solo.
(28:36):
He just said, no, man, just give me a six pack.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Yeah. I was going to say he didn't get paid
or anything.
Speaker 6 (28:41):
Did he He didn't get paid at all. He just
did it for like, you know, a few beers and
just grins, you know, the opportunity to just hang out.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
Well, it'd be cool to hang out with Michael Jackson.
Speaker 6 (28:51):
Yeah yeah, Quincy, you.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
Know, yeah, anyway, I thought that was it. I mean,
I think Gene would have loved of handing him in
the band, but he just knew the sounds just weren't.
It was just the way.
Speaker 6 (29:07):
Eddie and Alex play on the demos for for two
Gene well Christine sixteen and then I saw him that
ended up on his solo album called Tamael Love. Eddie
and Alex actually played on the demos for that. But
that's why the guitar solo in Christine sixteen sounds so
(29:29):
different than anything Ace whatever play is because when Kiss
recorded it, Gene just said, I want you to play
with Eddie played cool.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
So it's just yeah, And I guess Gene helped when
they were first getting started. He produced the demo recordings
that they gave to Warner Brothers.
Speaker 6 (29:47):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, he tried to get him a deal,
you know, in typical Kiss fashion. The you know, Gene
has gone around for years. You know that I discovered
van Halen if you talked to Paul, Paul's like, actually
I had seen van Halen the night before. I called
Gene and said, hey, you gotta come so they're both
(30:07):
trying to take credit or it is. But you know Gene,
did you know? He flew him to New York, made demos,
tried to get him a record deal, and at that
time they were like, yeah, nobody was interested in it.
So Jane just said take the demos and you do
keep shopping around. About six months later they got a
(30:28):
deal and changed music.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (30:32):
Yeah, I don't think there's any band. I mean, obviously
when Hindricks came along, it was mind blowing, but then
I don't think there was anybody else that did that really.
I mean, Boston was exciting, there's things that were exciting.
(30:53):
Kiss was exciting, but I don't think anybody until Van
Halen came along that really was like what is this? Yeah.
I remember being a little kid, I think, you know what,
nine years old, maybe ten, yeah, ten, when I I
(31:15):
was visiting my brother and I was like that eruption
and he really got me. Came on the radio. I
was like, what is this?
Speaker 1 (31:25):
I think I said the same thing. I was a
church I was at church camp at False Creek and
was I was I was going back to the bathroom.
Was a cabin and a guy said one side girls
on one side. I was walking back to the bathroom
on the guy's side, and there was just like rows
of bunks, you know, and this one kid I didn't
even know him, and he was playing this this music
and I said, I think I said the same thing,
(31:45):
like I think I said, who is that? And this
is van Halen. I'm like, what's a van Halen?
Speaker 6 (31:51):
You know, I just unless it's that response, like what
is that? Yeah, I mean, especially at that time, I
just another example of me being born late. I you know,
I should have been able to be going to see
Van Halen live in seventy eight, you know. But it's
(32:12):
just amazing that. I mean, it's just unlike anything else
I've always said. You know, in nineteen seventy seven, Aliens
visited Earth, they studied rock and roll, and they came
back a year later and said, here, we perfected it
(32:34):
for you. It's called van Halen. It's just yeah, van
Haalen is. I don't listen to them all the time.
The records are kind of so simple in the production
that it doesn't you don't hear new things every time
(32:59):
you listen to what I'm saying. No, yeah, but it
shouldn't be like that anyway. I'm just saying that that's
probably why I don't revisit as often. But every time
I did, I just get sucked in. I got to
listen to all the David Lee roth era albums because
that's really all I care about. I don't have anything
against the same Agar stuff, but I'm totally a David
(33:19):
Lee roth Era first.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
You know, they're a lot different.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Yeah, I'm the same way. I'm not a I'm not
a Sammy Hagar van Halen fan at all.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
See, I'm the opposite. I like Van Hagar more than
Van Halen. And I always wondering, you know, so when
when when? When when Van Hagar would tour, did they
play Sammy stuff?
Speaker 6 (33:41):
Did same?
Speaker 1 (33:42):
I mean they do, they do, Dave stuff, gave stuff.
Speaker 6 (33:46):
I think they would only do you know, I know
they did, but it was very few, Like one or
two songs we would like they would do. I think
maybe Jump, maybe Panama. I ain't talking about love, but
it was hardly any at all. They really turned their
(34:08):
back on the material for a long time.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Well, and I think I read an article the other
day that Dave anything that Dave had written, he wouldn't
let them use.
Speaker 6 (34:20):
I get there. I wouldn't doubt there's.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
Some big feud still going on, and Dave wouldn't let
anybody if it. If it, I don't know, there was
something about if he had something something to do with it.
Then even Hagar was like, no, we can't play those
songs anything from that this album or that period or
something because of Dave.
Speaker 6 (34:40):
So and I'm sure Sammy was relieved that he didn't.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Have to do those Oh no shit, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (34:46):
I mean, because you know, Sammy's no Dave and Dave's
no Sammy. It's they both have their thing and they're
both great at I personally think David E. Roth is
one of the greatest frontmen of all time. Yeah. Was
he a great singer? Not really, but he had charisma
(35:08):
and he put on a show like nobody else. And
he wasn't a bad singer, Don't get me wrong. I
just don't think he wasn't. And I don't know what
happened to Dave. It was somewhere around late eighties, early nineties.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (35:22):
I've never heard anybody's voice change as much as Dave's
voice has changed. And it's just I mean, but you know,
I saw this argument on Facebook the other day, like,
you know, I follow this guy. It's called Kicking Harold.
He's really fun to watch. But he he just asked
(35:42):
a question like, well, how do you feel about people
saying that this band or that band should retire already?
And says, you know, who has the right to do that?
You know, I don't think David lee Roth sounds like
he did forty years ago, And unfortunately that kept me
from going to see Van Haalen the last time I
(36:03):
had a chance to, and I really regret that. Yeah,
but do I have the right to say Dave just
needs to retire? No, Dave should retire when Dave's ready
to retire. And when people stopped buying tickets.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
Yeah, we kind of talked.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
We touched on that stuff while ago. About that Frankie Valley.
Speaker 6 (36:24):
Yeah, I haven't heard Frankie in a long time. It's
his voice totally, that's all recorded.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
He doesn't sing. He just his mouth kind of moves
a little bit, and he just kind of steers back
and forth on the stage.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
It's just, yeah, he looks like a zombie. He looks
like it's not really a performance, but he's probably going himself.
Speaker 6 (36:44):
Kids got to that point slightly.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
I mean, oh, not like that.
Speaker 6 (36:50):
Yeah, I mean he wasn't totally lipsticking. I mean, if
that's what he's doing. But I think Paul Stanley started
doing what someone like Britney Spears or where It would do,
where they have a backing tape that it sings probably
fifty of the lines, sixty percent of the lines, and
(37:11):
the and the singer knows that this is the line
coming up that I actually have to deliver. Well yeah, yeah,
I mean, so I'll sing this line, but then the
rest of it they're just Madonna absolutely did it. When
KP and I saw a few years ago, she was
she was just singing along to a track of herself singing, well,
(37:33):
I think.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
Even what are the what are the there's the two
bands that orchestras that go around at Christmas time, trans
and what's the other one?
Speaker 6 (37:46):
I just know there's two versions of Transfer.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
I think I think it was the other one came
to Enid and you could if you were standing on
the side, you could tell that the like the violin
players weren't. It was kind of like they did the
same thing, like they had They must have had a
track going because they weren't playing the whole time. You
could if you watch them really close. A lot of
the like violinists and stuff weren't playing the whole time.
Speaker 6 (38:11):
I don't know get that. I'm sorry. I just don't
get that right. I just don't get it. I don't
get me wrong. I played in a dance band for
ten years, and probably for the songs. Sometimes we would
have a keyboard track playing and the drummer would play
(38:34):
to a kick, so the keyboard would play in time,
but we were playing live to it. I don't get
the multiple instrument you know, the aerosmypic ben I was
and we did everything live. We didn't use any backing
tracks at all. And we played a theater one night
and this guy goes, wow, I mean you guys really
(38:57):
play And I was like, yeah, he goes, the band
that I had in here last week, and it's kind
of a really well known local tribute band. He said,
the band we had in here last week. Man, he goes,
the tracks went down. It was a train wreck. It
(39:20):
happened to me once because of in that band. I
was in that dance band. There was a I forget
what song it was, but there was additional guitar on
it on this track, and I asked him to remove it.
He's I can't remove it. I was like, all right, whatever.
So over time I started to get really lazy playing
that song because the track was doing the bulk. And
(39:48):
one night our tracks went down and I found out
very fast I didn't know how to play that song.
I was like, oh, no, this gonna happen again, No way.
So I just don't understand it when major rock bands
do that.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
Yeah, so hey, before we run out of time, tell
us all about your album where they can find it,
name of it, all that good stuff.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
It's out now.
Speaker 6 (40:20):
It's how about that it's out. It was actually out
on Todd's birthday.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
Yeah, so you didn't have to wait for my birthday.
Speaker 6 (40:32):
It's crazy. We went to upload it this morning because
we were messing out that last night and getting prepared
for It's like, oh, it's already up. It's been up
since last night. But yeah, it's so it's it's going
to be on all the streaming services. But right now,
I know for sure it's on you know, Amazon Music.
Speaker 5 (40:55):
And yeah it's but it's going to be on Spotify,
it's on Apple, right it's on Apple and it's yeah,
it's yeah Apple Music.
Speaker 6 (41:07):
Well that is Amazon and Apple Music the same thing.
Speaker 2 (41:09):
No, no, no.
Speaker 6 (41:11):
So it's on both those. It's on the other ones
I don't even I've never heard of, beside Spotify, which
last I checked it wasn't up there yet. Some of them,
some of them take a few days. But yeah, yeah,
I didn't know when I woke up this one as like, oh, well, okay,
(41:32):
here we go.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
Cool and it's called Love in Space.
Speaker 6 (41:37):
Yes, Christopher Davis, Love in Space.
Speaker 2 (41:41):
And it's funny. I didn't know when you were were
releasing it. But I was doing some late work last
night and I literally turned it on again and listened
to the whole damn thing again last night before I
went to bed.
Speaker 6 (41:55):
That's awesome.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
So I mean it again. If it was on vinyl,
it definitely would be in my rotation to play, you know,
on a regular basis. It's it's a good it's a
good album. Dude, you did good. I'm proud of you.
Speaker 6 (42:09):
Thank you man.
Speaker 1 (42:10):
And I apologize I have not had a chance to
listen to you yet.
Speaker 6 (42:14):
I've been see that's why I didn't send it to you.
Speaker 1 (42:16):
And well, well, okay, listen listen. I I don't have
like where I'm working, I can't just you know, because
there's loud and other stuff. I am supposed to go
to this Oklahoma city tomorrow. It's you know, it's an
hour and a half there and back or there one way,
so I have plenty of time to listen to it
in my truck.
Speaker 6 (42:36):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
So I have no excuses unless I just forget.
Speaker 6 (42:40):
See I listened. I have had phones all day when
I'm working. Yeah, lately, man, it's just been podcasts. So
I listened to the Zonks podcast today, Curtis.
Speaker 2 (42:51):
The Summer Venture movies.
Speaker 1 (42:54):
Yeah, yeah, cool.
Speaker 6 (42:56):
I'm getting excited about your book. That's cool man.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
I it's every day I wake up and I'm like, yes,
I get to write a little bit more. I mean
it's I'm afraid when I when I'm done with it,
I'm going to.
Speaker 1 (43:08):
Have this weird withdrawal.
Speaker 2 (43:09):
Withdrawal sad blank feeling.
Speaker 6 (43:13):
That's I can tell you. It's absolutely what Yeah, because
now other than promoting for the next you know, however long,
I don't like what am I going to do next?
You know, it's been a year and a half working
on this album. You know, now. And this is the
part I hate. I hate promoting myself. I hate going, hey,
(43:39):
please listen to my viusic Pse, please go buy my record.
I just hate that part.
Speaker 1 (43:46):
Well, we promote you as much as we can.
Speaker 6 (43:50):
But yeah, I think that's one thing I want to
do next too. This is my buddy Chad that passed
away a couple of years ago. We've been working on
a screenplay and then I kind of want to try
and focus on that for a while.
Speaker 1 (44:11):
Well I haven't, like I said, I haven't had a
chance to hear yet, but I understand it's a it's
a whole story. Yeah, yeah, so could you turn that
into a movie?
Speaker 6 (44:22):
Uh? You know, I have a guy, the guy I
was telling you about from Chicago, just kind of learning
the AI thing character thing, and yeah, he's like, you know,
right out the script, man, I want to turn the
whole album into a like an animate an animated movie
like yeah, you bad man. It'd be like mine, Harry
(44:44):
Nielsen the point. But so, yeah, that's that's been talked
about too. It's just some of that stuff just takes
so long. It's you know, I and really quickly that
you know, I was going to wait to say anything
about the album being out until I could make a video,
(45:06):
and it's like, hey, it's really taking a long time.
So I didn't want to wait that much long. Then
turn around a buddy Ken who was going to play
drums in it. He he broke his arm last week.
We have a couple, we have a couple a couple
of gigs coming up that we had to cancel because, yeah,
(45:29):
he fell off a ladder. Poor guy. And then he
was walking around for like a week with like an
ace bandage. I mean it had a brace inside of
the bandage, but he was walking around for a week
with just that. And then he went in today to
have it, you know, looked at by a special dist
and like, oh, yeah, your risk is broken. And so
then now he's got a full cast and he fell
(45:49):
off a ladder at work.
Speaker 1 (45:53):
Well, at least you know you're up there in that
part of the country. There's a lot of talent up
there that can do videos.
Speaker 4 (45:58):
And.
Speaker 6 (46:00):
You know, and I like doing it. I've done videos
in the past, but I kind of want to incorporate
some of the stuff from the story into it. So
been working with AI scenes and stuff, and it's really cool.
Speaker 4 (46:15):
Man.
Speaker 6 (46:15):
He's the movie has characters. It's I would say it
has three real characters. It has the guy, the girl,
you know, the girl, and the spaceship, which all are
their own characters. Kind of, he's kind of got it
dialed into where tell me what you wanted to do,
and it's like and he just kind of writes the description.
(46:37):
AI knows that, Okay, it's the girl, this is what
we want her to do, and there was if you
write out that description really well, it'll do it.
Speaker 2 (46:49):
Yeah, it's it's crazy.
Speaker 6 (46:50):
Yeah, it's pretty amazing, man. And then he sent me
one today of the of the guy character in the
story and it's like, well, it doesn't look like how
I envisioned him looking like the example photos I sent you,
but it's great. He goes, Okay, give me a little time,
(47:11):
and he comes back and it's the same thing, but
now he looks exactly like I envisioned him. I was like, wow, wow, yeah,
because I told him I girl I wanted to look
like as I want the guy to look like a
cross between Silly and Murphy and Adrian Brody. And that's
what it is. That's exactly how it looks.
Speaker 2 (47:30):
Ay, I can do that. Wow, whereas whereas an actor couldn't.
Speaker 6 (47:36):
Right. But yeah, those songs Curtis are it's pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (47:44):
It's kind of crazy. Yeah, I mean, it took a
lot of work to get those because it you can't
manipulate it really at all. You just you just feed
your lyrics in and then there's like thirty choices of
of the kind of sounds you want, and you pick
up to five out of the thirty and every time
(48:07):
you pick a different five or two or one gives
you almost a whole different song and the lyrics are different.
And so man, I mean I do like I think
I did both of those like thirty times before I
finally was like, oh that kind of sounds like what
I kind of had, you know.
Speaker 6 (48:24):
As I mean the first song though, is it's very modern, yeah,
you know, yeah, it doesn't really sound seventy no, no,
it sounds very much like a blinkin eighty two or exactly.
Speaker 2 (48:41):
And that's and I'm kind of into that alternative music.
I mean, I love alternative music now and so and
that's what it was for.
Speaker 1 (48:47):
It was more for I.
Speaker 2 (48:50):
Don't know, a promotion of the movie, like a trailer
background sound, because any seventy song. You know, I'm gonna
have to pay for if somebody else did it and
I couldn't get it to I couldn't get it to
make a seventy song. I tried.
Speaker 1 (49:06):
That's all I heard.
Speaker 6 (49:07):
It heard an interview with Jeremy Piven recently and they
were asking him, I forget what movie.
Speaker 1 (49:15):
I think it was.
Speaker 6 (49:16):
Richard link Later movie that he was in. I'm not
sure which one, and he was only in it briefly,
but Richard really wanted him in the movie. And so
he goes, you know, just kind of vamp, do your
Jeremy Piven thing, And so Jeremy started singing like whatever
(49:36):
in the scene, he sang a little bit of a
David Bowie song and a little bit of something else song.
He goes. And then I found out years later that
Richard lank Later hates me now because because I sang
no songs, it costs him about two hundred thousand dollars.
I have no idea it costs that much for song
license in a movie.
Speaker 2 (49:58):
It's crazy, wow the same.
Speaker 6 (50:02):
So that's why a lot of times you just don't
hear a bolt. Can you imagine what a movie like
Dayson Confused must have cost.
Speaker 2 (50:08):
Yeah, and yeah, we and I've you know, we did
an whole episode on dayson Confused and we did talk
about h he had. We've gotten some interviews and he
talked about the cost. I can't remember what it was,
but yeah, it was outrageous.
Speaker 6 (50:22):
And that that's gonna be insane.
Speaker 2 (50:24):
Yeah, and so that's why, Yeah, doing a movie, doing
my movie, you know, that's gonna be the big factor.
Is am I gonna have money to put actual seventy
songs in there? So right, we'll see. If not, You're
gonna have to write a lot of seventy songs, dude.
Speaker 6 (50:43):
Yeah, I'm gonna have to write songs that sound like
writing a song that sounds like Jackie Blue, but isn't
Jackie Blue.
Speaker 2 (50:51):
Well, you know there there are there are places out
there where you can get royalty free music and it's
lie like, say there's a song like Boston is like
one two three one one two three one. These people
will make the song like one two three three one
two three, and it's almost the same thing, but they
(51:12):
just change it enough that they can get by legally.
But yeah, and so, and you know, I would hate
to do that.
Speaker 6 (51:21):
A He did a really good Kiss Biography a couple
of years ago, and I really I still watch it,
you know, probably a couple of times a year because
it's well done. But it kind of drives me nuts
because there's only like a few real kiss songs in it,
and then the rest of it is songs that sound
(51:43):
like it could be kissed. Yeah, and I just as
a huge kiss fan, I'm like, eh.
Speaker 2 (51:49):
And think how much better it would be with full
of kiss songs.
Speaker 6 (51:54):
Well, that's just it. I can't come on, can't we?
But it has to do with that, Yeah, it has
to do with the licensing of it. And usually bands
don't own their publishing, and it's not really up to
them to say, this is a documentary about us, so
we want our music. It's usually not really up to them.
And that's so that's why, you know, one like Bob Seger,
(52:17):
if they did went on Bob Seger, it had Bob
Seger music because Bob Singer has always maintained his own publishing.
Billy Squire has always maintained his own publishing. They can
do whatever they want, but.
Speaker 2 (52:31):
More and more of more and more of them are
selling them and in the Stones and Fleetwood, Mac and
a lot of the Baby.
Speaker 6 (52:41):
I don't know how that's working now. I mean, they
retained certain rights, but as far as I can tell,
they sold the characters, they sold, the catalog they sold,
and so they're working on a biopic. It's like, how's
that work. They're gonna have to pay somebody else. Yeah,
(53:02):
I don't know. I imagine Jean's smart enough that he
put in Yeah it's really yours, but we have the
right to do this.
Speaker 1 (53:09):
Yeah, but yeah, he's a smart guy.
Speaker 2 (53:13):
Yeah, crazy, Yeah, Okay, So all right, fellas everybody, Uh
love in space. You guys go find it. Let us
know what you guys think. Five eight ZHO five fur
one three oh five or buzz buzzdmedia dot com. And uh,
we appreciate you being back on the show. And I
really love the album. Toddy's going to give it a
(53:35):
listen tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (53:35):
If he doesn't forget, I'll listen tomorrow and I'll have
my review next Tuesday. Oh, next Tuesday's life. You can
review it live, okay, yeah, sure, yeah?
Speaker 2 (53:47):
And I mean, so what, so here's a question for you.
Could we play like a snippet? I think maybe have
we played a snippet of a song?
Speaker 6 (53:56):
Yeah? You can do it.
Speaker 2 (53:57):
I was gonna say, because you you had, you had
sent a satellite girl, and I think we might have
played a little bit of it. But yeah, so we
might play a little bit of a song or two
here and there just to help promote it.
Speaker 1 (54:07):
So cool, cool, okay, cool, all right, baby, said Hika.
Speaker 6 (54:14):
She says, Hi, okay, good deal. Talk to you guys later.
Speaker 2 (54:20):
All right, okay, you guys. I mean, yeah, it's really cool.
It's like I said, it's to me, it's got a
lot of David Bowie vibe. And so let me know,
let me know what you what vibe it gives you.
But we've heard Christopher Todd long enough that it's a
(54:40):
definite Christopher Todd vibe For a lot of you that
have never heard him, you're going to probably it's going
to remind you of something other than Christopher Todd if
you haven't heard him. So anyway, let us know, U
guys check it out Love in Space and again, it's
kind of one of those out albums where each song
(55:02):
kind of flows into the next song, so be prepared
for you know, not a lot of gaps. It just
kind of goes. It's about forty eight minutes long, so
check it out and let us know what you think.
And uh, we're gonna get out of here. Cheer Raudio.
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Football’s funniest family duo — Jason Kelce of the Philadelphia Eagles and Travis Kelce of the Kansas City Chiefs — team up to provide next-level access to life in the league as it unfolds. The two brothers and Super Bowl champions drop weekly insights about the weekly slate of games and share their INSIDE perspectives on trending NFL news and sports headlines. They also endlessly rag on each other as brothers do, chat the latest in pop culture and welcome some very popular and well-known friends to chat with them. Check out new episodes every Wednesday. Follow New Heights on the Wondery App, YouTube or wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen to new episodes early and ad-free, and get exclusive content on Wondery+. Join Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. And join our new membership for a unique fan experience by going to the New Heights YouTube channel now!