Lawn mower blues!

well, I spent most of my weekend trying to fox a flat tire on an old pos lawn mower!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yeah, my crazy uncle.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Your uncle wasn't crazy.

Speaker 3 (00:05):
He was.

Speaker 1 (00:06):
He was a little bit crazy once he got out
of the war.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
But I said, it's lookome to he was eccentric.

Speaker 1 (00:13):
No, he would fly off the handle. He was and
like he oh really he was going to do that.
When Kathy asked.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
For the divorce, Uh, I never saw it. I always
thought a happy go lucky.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
Oh yeah, no, he was on the on the curb
of the house on Grant, this to his head and
she called the police and they came and took him
to the looney room in the hospital.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
Oh yeah, well he needed so, did h p S.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
I think so PTSD PTSD, I believe so.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
Oh well, he needed help.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
He needed to good joke, A joke.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
A we're getting our podcast mixed up talking about crazy uncles.
He wasn't crazy.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
He wasn't crazy.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
He was just crazy, not crazy. He walk me down.
Where are we at? Buzhet radio?

Speaker 1 (01:07):
Another episode of the Bulls. But guess sounds like radio,
but we're not radio. But we are not a radio
hit us up at five eight oho five four one
three eighth five. I slowed that down for Steve and
san tone and uh buzz buzzsaid media dot Com.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
Uh, Dave had a little bit of he he did
mention that he you give him a list of followers
to listen.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
Yeah, named off some TikTokers last week, and he was
already following four of them.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
Yeah, he's already on the.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
Damon Darling he was one of them that he follows.
So if you guys aren't following Dame the.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
Dollar guy, yeah, got god doll.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
He's funny bub bub.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
And then Gretchen had a little bit of stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
She did not know much about Cella, but she thought
it'd be funny to see me screaming for Bernie Sander
to sit his ass down. We were there for music
and not political spitch.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
Yeah, and of course James Shandley I could have been
the seventies thing. But she's talking about Taylor and the
Wiener Rocket.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
Why does she call it rocket?

Speaker 2 (02:20):
I don't know. It must be a thing with her.

Speaker 3 (02:23):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
She's she's trying to catch up on Ghosts. She still
doesn't know why Trevor doesn't have pants. If you watch
ghost she knows exactly what we're talking about. If you
don't watch Ghosts, you have no idea what we're talking
about it's okay, don't need to. She quit getting an
Easter basket at the age of twelve, which to me
is a little young.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
It's way young.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
Curtis's daughters are both adults and they still get Easter baskets.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
They got Easter baskets this year, they get They've got
an Easter baskets every year.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
So they're still getting all my grandkids.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
No, we didn't make them search for eggs. We haven't
made them search for eggs in several years.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
And Gretchen said something to the effect upstairs. No way
in the world she would go hunt for east eggs
right now, the plastic.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
She would hate it. Yeah, like you'd be like punishment.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
She's gonna hold off on Survivor this year. She's gonna
do it next year.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
Too many shows to watch, she's too far behind.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
And she is patiently waiting for Christopher Todd Davis to
get an album out, cassette album, CD something because she
wants to buy one.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
Because she'll support anybody that supports everybody, supporting everybody.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
The peeps I think she called them, called called us
our peeps.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
Everybody's peeps, and her high school they were called the
Blue Devils because we were talking about sports stuff on
seventies buzz podcasts, So I forgot to mention that over there.
And then Ken Smith just wanted to let us know.
You guys don't be afraid to let us.

Speaker 3 (03:55):
Know stuff that.

Speaker 4 (03:56):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
And I kind of knew that Christopher Todd would a
little quiet compared to like him compared to you. But
I guess when you're listening to the show, we need
to turn Christopher Todd up, which we will turn him
up tonight.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
I've already turned it up.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
So we we apologize, but we don't know unless you
guys tell us. So, Ken, thank you. Let's see what
else did he say? Oh, he said he goes. I
know he was loud because you could hear him. He
could hear him from his driveway and his dog was
out there barking. Thought there was something going on. So

(04:32):
and he enjoys the show. So thanks for checking in.

Speaker 3 (04:34):
Ken. We appreciate you. Uh.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
You and I we graduated.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
Kind of sort of, oh from the Oklahoma State Bureau
of Investigation. We are now legally able to arrest anybody
that we see.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
Fit, and we can bury bodies six feet deep if
we want.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
How we know exactly how to commit the perfect crime.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
Now it's kind of interesting. Yeah. So we went through
the OSB I Citizens Academy. If you guys ever get
to go through a police, FBI, anything, refireman anything, Citizens Academy,
do it ours was super duper interesting. I forgot to

(05:13):
paste all the things we did, but we we did.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
Cold case topics covered where history of the USBI, how
the o SBI becomes involved in a case, which I
didn't realize they have to be invited. Yeah, I thought
they just showed up because they were the OSBI. Their
their crime scene presentation where they got this super cool
camera that they takes three D imaging of of everything.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
The technology is scary.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
The OSBI Forensic Science Center, which is really cool. We
didn't get to go there, but they talked about it.
They shot a gun off in the class the first night. Yeah,
scared the crap out.

Speaker 3 (05:58):
Of any one of those things.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
Jigger bobble, I forget what they call it. Uh. And
I always thought that they used the bullet to like
compare with other bullets. Never dawned on me that once
a bullet hit something, it mushrooms out and gets It's
the casing casing that tells all the story. Uh, the

(06:20):
cold case presentation. That was really cool.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
That's the one they solved it.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
Yeah, actually didn't they had Actually they had two kind
of clues.

Speaker 1 (06:30):
Actually they did.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
Yeah. Uh, one was older, very super interesting. Officer involved
shooting investigations. Use of four scenarios is that the uh, the.

Speaker 3 (06:43):
Pew pew thing, the yeah, the.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
The screens all around you.

Speaker 1 (06:49):
Yeah, we got to go in there and shoot guns.

Speaker 3 (06:52):
That I had.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
A guy with a knife attacked me and I shot
him in the armpit.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
By the way, whenever you shoot somebody, you unload on them.
I'm meant to tell you that, No.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
I shot him twa I shot twy. What you didn't
understand is you don't get off as many shots as
you think you do, right, I mean, it happens quick.
And that's what they The reason what they were trying
to prove when I got up there was what's it
called the twenty one foot roll. If a suspect is

(07:24):
within twenty one feet.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
Of you, you better have your gun out.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
You'd better shoot him right when he makes his move
because anywhere within that twenty one feet he could reach
you and stab you before you get a shot off.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
Before you unholster your your gun.

Speaker 1 (07:39):
Yeah, and luckily I had you know, we didn't have holsters.
But since I once I saw the knife in his hand,
I pointed my gun at him and I still barely
got him right in the arm pit.

Speaker 3 (07:48):
Right.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
No, No, yeah, you did good. Uh. What's the MAC unit?

Speaker 1 (07:53):
The MAC unit? Was that van that?

Speaker 2 (07:55):
Oh? Yeah, yeah, that goes mobile unit? Oh, that goes
on site yeah. Uh. And then a polygraph presentation which
I I was blown away that I didn't realize polygraph
tests are more accurate than pregnancy tests.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
And COVID and flew and yeah they named off like
five or six tests that a polygraph and and I
didn't realize all the different hookups they do these days.
And he goes into a little black box. There's no needles.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
Yeah, there's no squiggly like a seismograph needle anymore. No.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
Yeah. And one of the things that they they try
to catch you on is trying to fool the polygraph.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
Uh huh So that it had a term for that,
I can't remember.

Speaker 4 (08:39):
Rea.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
Oh, and another thing about the polygraph. They don't like
answering questions that will be answered. Yes, they want you,
they want all the answers and questions answered no.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
No, yeah, trying they try not to ask you a
yes question. Yes, yeah, I mean we learned tons.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
It was five weeks, five Thursday, and it was three hours,
and they fed.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
Us and they fed us. But it was yeah, definitely
very cool, very cool. So that was fun. We got
little certificates, got our picture tooken. So anything fun? Did
you watch anything fun this weekend? Anything exciting on the movies.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
The lawnmower, Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
Like a real lawnmower or a movie lawnmower.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
No, my real lawnmore.

Speaker 1 (09:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
So my weeds have been growing, of course, I don't
have any weeds on the front. Everything's dead because Paul
came over and sprayed unbeknownst to me. If I told
you that.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
Why did he do that?

Speaker 2 (09:40):
Was trying to be helpful.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
I always sprayed the weed, but not the grass, and
so the grass is growing, just not weeds.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
It'll get there, Okay.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
Well, if your yard's all weeds and they killed the weeds,
I guess there is no grass for a.

Speaker 3 (09:53):
While, right.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
But the back was starting to get out of hand,
and I hadn't I hadn't fired up the old you
remember I bought the three hundred dollars tractor to replace
my zero turn because I couldn't forget how to get
it to run. So I was just I couldn't get
it to run, so I just bought a whole piece
of crap tractor. Well, I had a flat and I

(10:16):
was like, no, hell, air it up. Well I go
to air it up, and I love the detractor runs.
It's a beast. It's a nineteen and a half horsepower
old Craftsman lawnmower, sits all winter. I don't put stabilizer,
nothing in it. I jump on that sucker. I did

(10:39):
have to charge your battery, pull the choke, hid a start,
wom at fire, trot off. This thing is a beast.
Let's got a flat tire. And I thought, I'll just
drive over to the garage on the flat. Well, then
the bead breaks, so I'm like, okay, so I do
the old I thought, yeah, I'm gonna do the trick
where you brace stuff in there and lighted this. I

(11:06):
did not, And as I was doing this, I'm like,
why am I not videotapeing this? And so I sprailed.
All I had was, uh, I guess I'm like carb
cleaner or something. I didn't have any like lighter. I
think they usually use like ether or something. But I'll

(11:26):
be I'll be going to heck it.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
Poofed it. It poofed right there, and then he goes.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
I'm like, what was that noise? I sprayed in there again? Poof.
Then I realized there's a crack in the sidewall the tire.
I'm like, oh, man, So Keip's like, just putt oh
and I It's like, how much your tires, Like ninety
bucks for a lawnmore tire. I'm like, I only paid
three hundred dollars for the whole damn lawnmoard. So I'm thinking.

(11:57):
Keip's like, I just put a tube minute, Uh, there
you go. So it took me three different destinations to
find the tube the right size. It's like, I don't know,
twenty bucks or something. Can't get the.

Speaker 3 (12:10):
Wheel off the damn lawnmower.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
No, No, it's it's and all it is is a
little there's a dust cap. There's a little sea clip
that rides in a groove. You pull that off and
in theory, just pull the wheel off and then you can, man,
you can wrestle the long story short, I spent six
hours Saturdays just trying to change the wheel, just trying

(12:32):
to get the wheel off of the lawnmower. Okay, well
I'll just put the tube in it and leave the
wheel on there. Couldn't do it because you got to
like pride and all that stuff, and then whee would
just spend.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
You know, So did you ever get it off?

Speaker 2 (12:49):
Shot? Well, so between some really good penetrating spray and
map gas and heat.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
I would like so I had it just kind of
rested on.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
Yeah, and rust will hold anything. Uh, and YouTube because
I was beating it from behind and the guy goes
some YouTube guys like, don't do that, you'll screw up.
I'm like, oh glad I youtubed it. How did we
get along with that YouTube? Anyway? So, uh, after six

(13:24):
at least six hours on Saturday and three hours on Sunday,
I got it off and then it then I had
to wrestle the inner tube into the wheel. It's not
like our old bicycle tires. You know what you could
almost do with just your fingers. A lot of times
you didn't need screwdrivers. I had to use two crowbars.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
Like, why wasn't somebody filming all.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
That I would had sweat pouring off of me. Anyway,
So that was my big weekend.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
So you didn't watch a whole lot of movies like that.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
I didn't watch anything this weekend, mom, because Kip had
a feast. Uh. Every once in a while he gathers
up food. We had. We had a big feast someday afternoon.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
At the warehouse.

Speaker 3 (14:08):
At the warehouse at the warehouse.

Speaker 1 (14:10):
Okay, Uh, Well, I watched a couple of things.

Speaker 3 (14:12):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
I think Christopher Todd had talked about Juror number two.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
He also talked about the Black Mirror.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
I did not watch that.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
Haven't a chance.

Speaker 1 (14:23):
I watched jur number two and it was good, and
I kept thinking, oh, he spoiled it because he told us,
Oh no, I think I brought that up or you did.
But yeah, and that one. It doesn't matter because they
they divulge that the guy was pretty early in the movie.
So the movie isn't really about trying to discover if

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that guy did.

Speaker 3 (14:44):
It or not.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
It was we knew he did it.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
It was how he deals with it throughout the movie.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
He thought he hit a deer and then realized it
was like a couple of years later, wouldn't it.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
It was a while it was, yeah, yeah, it was yeah,
much later.

Speaker 2 (14:59):
Yeah, And he's like, hang, I was there at that
point in that time, I thought it was a deer.

Speaker 3 (15:03):
It wouldn't yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
So it was good. It was a good movie. There's
a new Tom Hardy movie called.

Speaker 2 (15:09):
Havoc that's on. Yeah, I want to watch that.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
It's good. It's good. The only problem with it that
I had was it's kind of like John Wick. It's
got some fight scenes that are thirty minutes long, and
of course all the heroes never get shot or die,
but everybody else dies by just literally getting poked in

(15:35):
the eye. So like you'll have machine guns and like
eighty guys die by just slinging the gun around. But
then of course the stars can get shot eighty times
and beat up and stabbed and and that's in the
fight scenes just.

Speaker 3 (15:52):
Go on and on.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
Whether it was there a room full of mirrors, It
wasn't mirrors.

Speaker 1 (15:58):
It was a log cabin.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
But I do like anything Tom Hardy's in.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
Tom was good. It's a good movie, but I warn
you the fight scenes can can go on.

Speaker 3 (16:08):
For a little while.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
Have you seen mob Land?

Speaker 1 (16:11):
Now you keep telling you know, I'm just not a
series guy.

Speaker 3 (16:14):
I don't know. I don't watch a whole lot of series.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
It's it's it goes quick, it's I.

Speaker 1 (16:19):
Might have to Yeah, I like Tom Hardy, so I
might have to check it out. And then the best
movie of the weekend hands down, Last Breath.

Speaker 2 (16:27):
I can't do that.

Speaker 1 (16:28):
Oh my god, what.

Speaker 2 (16:29):
A movie with with with with Woody Harreld, Woody Harrelson
throw underwater right, Oh my god, yeah, I can't do it.
Oh dude, I can't.

Speaker 1 (16:37):
It is it's a it's a jerker. It's a Woody.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
Harrelson's another one. I got to watch all his movies,
but well.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
This one's based on a true story. Oh and you
got to wonder how you just at the end of
the movie, you're like, how how.

Speaker 2 (16:54):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
Oh, it's hard, it's it's but it's so good. So
Last Breath. And I think it's like on Peacock or Paramount,
maybe Paramount.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
It's yeah, it's on one of those. Yeah. So yeah,
I know I have it because it keeps asking me
if I want to watch it, just from the little
bit of advertisement you know of it. I'm like, no,
it's it's like it's like one of those shows it's
all in the desert. I don't like those.

Speaker 1 (17:21):
Oh yeah, it's definitely all underwater, or they're all.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
In the snow on the Alps or something. I don't
like that either. I don't know why.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
Yeah, but this this one didn't make you feel claustrophobic underwatery.
I mean, they are in like a tank to I
didn't realize it's it's it's the story's super unbelievable. But
it's interesting what these guys have to go through to
dive to fix under water pipelines.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
Oh, they got to go down and acclimate.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
Yeah, so they go they get in these bearer metric
chamber fingy and and then they fill the full of
gas and then their body. They have to stay in
there so many days or whatever. Yeah, so it's it's
kind of a I mean, so it's really cool learning
stuff like that. But anyway, I highly recommend that. I
just found out tonight they are doing eight and I

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don't know why, but I love the movie Trimmors.

Speaker 3 (18:19):
I don't know why.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
Oh yeah, they're redoing it.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
They're they're doing a Tremor's franchise on Netflix August twenty
twenty five, starring Kevin Bacon. Yes, eight episode series.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
What about the other guy? I guess he's not in it?
His buddy Camera's name, don't know.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
I doubt it.

Speaker 2 (18:38):
I saw I saw it said there's people from the
other because he's bringing back his character. So there's some
of the old characters are coming back.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
And how many they're head what they up to, like
Trimmer's five or it seems like there was I was it.
Oh yeah, it went on forever. I never watched, but
just Kevin Bacon was only that and that's my favorite.
I think the second one might have been kind of okay,
but yeah, nothing compares to the first one.

Speaker 2 (19:06):
Yeah, we actually watched that last weekend, just really Justin
and Carly were too funny. We was like, want something
to watch and Justin's like, oh, I always like this.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
See that's what. I can't not watch it. If I'm
flipping through channels it's on. I watch it every time.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
It's silly and it's yeah, but.

Speaker 1 (19:21):
There's just something about it. I don't know that I
but anyway, so that if you like it, here you go.
August twenty twenty five and eight episode series. Not to
jump too deep into politics. But it is Trump's first
one hundred days, So of course all the happy one

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hundred days, all the liberal news stations are saying what
a bad job he's done for one hundred days, and
all the conservative news stations of saying, how good a
job he's done for.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
The first hundred days.

Speaker 1 (19:53):
I guess this was kind of interesting. I guess, is
it Paramount is buying CBS.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
Yes, Paramount is CBS. They're CBS, They're like the same.

Speaker 1 (20:07):
Well, somehow, somehow somebody's buying some CBS. Somebody's buying or
owning CBS.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
No, I don't know. So anyway, that's why I'll watch CBS.
Stuff is on Paramount.

Speaker 1 (20:18):
Plus, well I don't know what's something's going on where
them or somebody is taking ownerships of CBS, and President
Trump has got to approve it. And so sixty So
the guy that's been producing sixty minutes forever resigned because

(20:40):
they so they ended sixty minutes this this week saying
that this guy had resigned. And they said, now all
the stories that they do have to go through Paramount
or something, and they said, none of them have been declined.
But the fact that Donald Trump has got to approve
the d This guy decided that his integrity would be beshmooched,

(21:08):
and so he resigned from sixty.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
Minutes talking about sky Dance Media. No, it was like
I think they said, Paramount Paramount Global is merging with
sky Dance Media. This may be old.

Speaker 1 (21:23):
Maybe that I don't know.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
CBS is not being directly bought in the transition in
the traditional sense. Rather it's parent company, Paramount Global is
merging with sky.

Speaker 1 (21:34):
Dance so that that might be old. Who knows, Yeah,
I don't know. Anyway, I just I thought that.

Speaker 3 (21:40):
Was kind of interesting.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
So anyway, here was a little factoid. So and again
I don't want to jump on the political high horse
or anything, but so so all these years that all
of the illegals have been crossing in that was my
one of my big deals was what are they doing?
Were they going? How are they paying for stuff? And

(22:03):
it seemed like people that didn't care were saying, oh, well,
they're getting jobs and they're paying for their own stuff
and blah blah blah. Well I knew, I knew it
wasn't true. I just knew that my tax money was
paying for people breaking the law and coming into the
United States. So they finally, now that Trump's in office,

(22:24):
I guess he wants to prove it. So the governor
of Texas decided that he wanted the hospitals in Texas
to figure out what it costs. So they did some
cost analysis and they say Texas hospitals incurred one hundred
and twenty one point eight million dollars in healthcare costs

(22:47):
during visits by people in the country illegally during one
month November of twenty twenty four, So they and that
was thirty one thousand and visits by illegals in one
month in Texas cost the United States one hundred and
twenty one million just for one state for one month.

(23:10):
I knew, And that's why I was like, how can
we be letting these people?

Speaker 2 (23:15):
Is that? Is that all the hospitals in Texas?

Speaker 1 (23:18):
Yes? Okay, yeah, but again it's just one state on
one month, And so I knew these people aren't coming
over and getting jobs and paying rent and paying health
insurance and paying taxes. Somebody's paying for all of that.
And I knew it. And that's what that's what I would.

(23:39):
I don't mind illegals. I do mind illegals. I don't
mind immigrants coming over in the right way.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
And working, absolutely, because then.

Speaker 1 (23:46):
They do get jobs. But I knew that our tax
money was anyway, they've proved it now, so that was
just one of my So anyway, another thing that I
watched that was super duper cool. Fascinated with AI. If
you can't tell number one, because I want to figure
out how to make a million dollars with it. But

(24:06):
I got to there was this documentary that kind of
talked about I think it was called DeepMind, which is
one of the first AI companies out there, and I
was talking about this guy that, as a little kid
liked to figure things out and he kind of could

(24:29):
see where computers were going to be the future and
could figure things out. And so he joined a company
and they figured out that they could teach a computer.
They were trying to teach a computer how to beat Palm,
and so they put it all in and they watched
it and watched it, and the computer kept losing to Palm,

(24:50):
and then like out of the blue, several days later,
all of a sudden, it started winning and then it
never lost again, and so they're like wow. So then
there's this game that they play I don't know in
Korea or something where they put these black and white
stones on these on the corners of these squares. But
there's like hundreds of squares, and it's like there's there's

(25:15):
more combinations of moves to this game than there are
atoms in the universe. And so anyway, there's there's like
these guys that are champions. Well, they taught the computer
how to play, and eventually the computer started beating the champions.

Speaker 4 (25:31):
This is.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
Several years back. And then they went to chess, and
so then that's where you started, so that this is
all AI. This is how AI started evolving was from games.
Then they taught the AI how to beat a human
at chess. Well, now you can't a human can't beat
the computer at chess, So then this guy they can't.

(25:55):
I I saw your look, and I'm like, yeah, I
have to tell there's another thing. But anyway, but this
guy kept thinking there's got to be more to computers
and AI than beating games. And so I guess they
used to have this contest and it's super complicated. But
they were trying to study proteins and they were trying

(26:18):
to what they call fold a protein, and I guess
it's to find out the amino acids that are in
each protein. So once they figured out the amino acids
and the fold of a protein, they could know how
to combat different diseases or do different things. And so
they would have this contest where they people tried to
figure out how to predict the folds in the protein,

(26:43):
and for decades, nobody's ever been able to get over
the ninety percent mark. Anyway, this guy got a team
together and they created the Deep Mind AI and they
finally did it, and so I guess now it was
such a big deal he won the Nobel Prize. But
it's such a big deal that they say there's life

(27:07):
before the folding of proteins and life after. Oh is
that big of a deal they're saying. It's like they're
saying that AI is like there's life before hey II,
and there's life after AI. And the folding of the
protein is kind of the spot and so but anyway,
it's just it's crazy the things that they're trying to

(27:27):
get that they're team they were it was just crazy.
They were just walking around with a phone and the
AI was the phone was seeing for AI, and it
was just answering questions right and left and describing things and.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
So do you think. So it sounds like AI is
going to get so smart it's going to cure all cancers.

Speaker 1 (27:49):
Okay, so again, so real quick, I know we need
to get to Christopher Todd here in a minute. Remember
we told Trump was on a while back and he
said that they're going to build these supercomputers that have
their own energy, because that's the problem with computers for
AI is they just don't have enough energy or power source. Anyway,

(28:09):
there's this guy that they're and Trump had talked about
you could do these blood tests and find out what
cancers you had in your blood and blah blah blah.
Well there's this new set of people in Japan that
are using AI and they are studying the micro RNA
rather than DNA to be able to test for cancer.

(28:31):
National Cancer INSTITUTIONES reports twenty million new cancer cases and
nine point seven million cancer related global deaths in twenty
twenty two. Projection is thirty million new cases by twenty forty.
So this guy his grandparents I think or his parents
grandparents got cancer died and so he wanted to he anyway,

(28:53):
he came up this way, so what they're going to do,
and then they figured a lot of people don't want
to go get a blood so trying to get a
blood test Nina is kind of a pain in the
butt and in other places, so like people don't like
to have a blood test like a needle stuck in
their arm and then going to find a place to
get it. Anyway, this guy has come up with a
way of testing your urine for cancer, and so he's

(29:17):
he's trying to raise funds for this hundred million dollar
AI thing to study your biomarkers in your urine, let's see,
and they can detect stage as far as early as
stage one cancers by a urine test that you just

(29:39):
send in. So anyway, yeah, so that's what's coming down
the horizon from AI, and then on one other real
quick thing on AI and then I'll be done. Deep
fake pornography is becoming all the rage, and I guess
it's like a huge problem in Korea, and it's even
like super bad problem in schools in Korea. So what

(30:02):
they're doing now with AI is they are taking these
kids in other people offices. These guys are taking pictures
of girls they like, either at school or the office,
and you put the picture of the girl in this
deep fake pornography AI, and it basically uses somebody else's

(30:25):
body to do all kinds of dirty pornography things, but
it's got the person looks like the picture of the
person you put in it. So all these girls in
high school are finding videos of them doing all this
stuff where all these boys in these groups are all watching.
And so now they're trying to pass laws to make

(30:48):
deep fake pornography illegal because you're basically taking a girl.
And I guess it's a huge, huge problem in South
Korea right now, like a major school problem too.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
Well.

Speaker 1 (31:00):
Yeah, so anyway, that's uh so that's the good side
of AI and the bad side of AI.

Speaker 2 (31:07):
Gotcha.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
But whatever you think of AI, it's coming no matter
what it is coming, So anyway, shall we give?

Speaker 2 (31:15):
Yeah? I just wonder that I'm assuming AI is gonna
be able to cure all these diseases and all this
stuff is big. Farm are gonna just sit quiet and
let it happen. You can, because you always hear, well,
if you make more money treating a disease than curing
a disease.

Speaker 1 (31:34):
But they don't really cure it. It's it's detecting it.
You're still so if it detects you've got stage one
can't liver cancer, you're still gonna need big farm. You're
gonna need big pharma to try to get You're just
gonna be able to get rid of it earlier. If
they can detect it earlier, you can get rid of
a lot of cancers. Yeah, they're detected earlier.

Speaker 2 (31:57):
So how long before they can before it figures out
how to cure it?

Speaker 1 (32:01):
Well, yeah, that's what this protein thing is. I think
once they figure out how to manipulate these proteins, it
probably won't be long. It's going to be I just say,
one hundred years from now, we're dinosaurs. The people will
laugh at the knowledge we know today. It'll be so
stone age compared to what they're going to have in

(32:23):
a hundred years.

Speaker 3 (32:24):
It's crazy.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
Yeah, like a little of one hundred years ago. Uh,
cocaine was medicinal.

Speaker 1 (32:29):
Yeah, and they didn't have TVs.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
That's good. That's caucus on the internet. Now, surely that's
loud enough. Wandering Oh he entered on wondering.

Speaker 1 (32:45):
And wondering, and he spoke up, we're trying to we're
trying to hear you. Are you there?

Speaker 4 (32:49):
Am I speaking loud enough?

Speaker 2 (32:51):
I got you turned up?

Speaker 4 (32:52):
I think you're I don't want to upset Ken now.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
We we definitely love the feedback because we weren't really
paying attention. But I kind of knew that you seemed
a little quieter.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
Okay, I'm looking at the graph right now.

Speaker 1 (33:04):
You're Yeah, you're definitely up with us tonight, So you're good.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
Check one, two, three, Yeah, you're You're checking is just
the same as my checking.

Speaker 1 (33:12):
So there you go, so real quick, fill me in
on all this vinyl stuff that you found out here.

Speaker 4 (33:19):
Oh, well, the main thing I've discovered is that, in
a world of short attention spans, I created an album
that's forty eight minutes long.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
So what's wrong with that?

Speaker 4 (33:34):
Well, an album can only vinyl can only hold forty
four minutes, I think, See.

Speaker 1 (33:40):
That's all. I may have known that at some point
in my life, but I wasn't really everything.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
I guess the grooves take up so much room, and yeah,
I guess, yeah, and.

Speaker 4 (33:48):
You can, you can make it fit on there. But
apparently when you do that, yeah, it starts to get
really flimsy and skips easy.

Speaker 1 (33:58):
And so you're gonna drop a song or no, we're
gonna take your worst song. We're all gonna vote and
we'll make that song be the squishy song.

Speaker 2 (34:07):
Oh squishy one. Oh so you squishy one song?

Speaker 1 (34:10):
Well, I bet you have to squish the whole side.
I bet you have to squish the whole side of
the album.

Speaker 4 (34:15):
Yeah. The first site comes in at twenty under twenty
two minutes. The second what I consider. I mean, it's
really all one piece because there's no silence between any songs.
Oh really, but but I could split it at it
at a certain point. But that makes the second side
like almost twenty seven minutes.

Speaker 2 (34:37):
So maybe do a double album.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
That's what I said. That's exactly what I said time for.
I said, get to write and time for a double.

Speaker 4 (34:45):
Album like three songs aside or so. Now I thought
it was yes or something.

Speaker 1 (34:51):
I've got a double album where the second album only
has music on one side, so it's it's literally a
three sided album. There there's nothing on the fourth side.

Speaker 4 (35:01):
Really yeah, I've seen that too. That'd be interesting, but.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
It's just smooth.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
Let's just smooth.

Speaker 4 (35:06):
Really expensive.

Speaker 2 (35:08):
That way, we'd be twice the cost.

Speaker 4 (35:09):
Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, exactly. But I could do a
gatefold cover.

Speaker 1 (35:15):
Yeah good, we're gonna We're gonna figure this out.

Speaker 4 (35:19):
I even went through it today and s went, Okay,
if I chopped the long intro off of.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
This song, we don't want you doing that, and.

Speaker 4 (35:27):
The long ending off of this song, and the long
ending off of that song, if I just faded them
out and I still came up I think three and
a half minutes over.

Speaker 2 (35:39):
Yeah, so yeah, no, you got to do something else.

Speaker 1 (35:43):
We'll figure we'll figure something out. Maybe maybe we take
like four songs and do ah, what do you call
those twelve inch singles or whatever where there's only about
two to four songs on it.

Speaker 3 (35:57):
Maybe there you go.

Speaker 1 (35:59):
I don't know, we somehow we got to get something
on vinyl. We'll figure this out.

Speaker 3 (36:02):
Though.

Speaker 2 (36:04):
Yeah, it sounds to me, honestly, it sounds to me
like easiest thing to do is drop one song.

Speaker 4 (36:09):
Yeah, I mean they do. The only song on the
album I want to drop is on the first side. Well,
I guess then I could just put.

Speaker 1 (36:17):
I mean, you could have them all on the CD.

Speaker 4 (36:20):
But yeah, yeah, I mean I think I know that
song would be dropped, which is unfortunately because it's got
great backing vocals.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
But I think that, well, you know, you don't, you
don't throw it away. It's just not on that album.

Speaker 4 (36:31):
It's just not on the Yeah, I mean that's how it.
I remember having a Cheap Trick album came out in
eighty three, and the cassette had two more songs on
it and the album. Yeah it was before buying CDs,

(36:52):
but yeah, the cassette had two more songs. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:55):
And I remember buying a Cheap Trick twelve inch or whatever,
the larger size, but it was like a single. There
was only like two songs on one song on each
side or something.

Speaker 2 (37:06):
It was still a thirty three.

Speaker 5 (37:07):
It was small, found all the parts.

Speaker 3 (37:10):
It was.

Speaker 1 (37:10):
It wasn't a forty five, but it wasn't a full.
It was like an in between.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
Size seventy eight.

Speaker 1 (37:16):
The speed was indifferent.

Speaker 3 (37:17):
It was just the size.

Speaker 4 (37:19):
So right, they in eighty they released it. Originally was
a smaller disc.

Speaker 1 (37:29):
Yeah, it was a small and even the album.

Speaker 3 (37:31):
Cover smaller three.

Speaker 4 (37:32):
Yeah, even the album cover of call It's called Found
all the Parts and it had two live songs on
one side and two studio cuts on the other.

Speaker 1 (37:41):
And I've still got it actually, of course you do.

Speaker 4 (37:43):
Yeah, I actually have multiple copies of that one because
they put like, on one side of the picture, they'd
have a picture of Robin and on the other side
they have a picture of of Rick. And then on
another album, you know, they also printed ones with Tom

(38:04):
on one side and Bunny on the other, and there
was these different configurations of it. So I have a
few of them, different photos of the guys. That one
also came with a a forty five inside called Everything
Works if You Let It when it personally came out,

(38:24):
so it had those four songs, you know, two on
each side. Then it also had an actual forty five
called everything Works if You Let It? Well, could you
do that in the movie Roady oh ye, yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:37):
That'd be kind of fun. Put a put the single
on a forty five.

Speaker 4 (38:42):
I remember I had that. I loved that song, And
that was back in the days when that stuff, you know,
like they only printed that for so long, you know,
and then then that forty five was not inside that
album anymore. And I remember vacuum in my room one
day and the vacuum and fell over and hit my
turntable and crack down.

Speaker 1 (39:02):
Oh no, So.

Speaker 4 (39:06):
It was like several years before I was able to
hear that song again, because it wasn't you know, back
in the early eighties, it wasn't easy to just replace
it when it went out of print. Yeah. Yeah, you
could still get found all the parts, but you didn't
it didn't have the single inside of it.

Speaker 1 (39:24):
Yeah, I'll have to look inside of mind because I
don't know that I have the forty five. I'll have to,
but I haven't looked inside it.

Speaker 4 (39:34):
So, so, so what's the deal?

Speaker 2 (39:36):
Now?

Speaker 4 (39:37):
You were both like license, like, what does this mean?
You're of investigation?

Speaker 3 (39:42):
You guys?

Speaker 4 (39:42):
Can you guys?

Speaker 1 (39:44):
Todd is messing. Todd is messing with people. We basically
we basically just did a citizen's academy where you just
learn stuff, but it's hands on. They let us. They
put these drunk goggles, beer goggles, and we and then

(40:04):
we got to shoot like lass and then we got
to do the polygraph and you know, so it's you
got to do. You got to take participation in things
as you learned them.

Speaker 2 (40:16):
So yeah, it was a five week course and they
just basically trying to make citizens. They do one a
quarter in different parts of the state and they just they're.

Speaker 1 (40:28):
Just educating you on what they do. Yeah, yeah, in
which we had no idea half the stuff they did.

Speaker 4 (40:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (40:34):
Yeah, there's been an OSBI thing here in town forever.
It's recently shut down. But you know, it's not the FBI.
It's it's investigation, yeah, and investigat things. Yeah. And one
of the weird things is is, like say there's a crime,
they don't just show up like, Okay, we're the Okahenma
State Bureau of Investigation. We're here to take over. No,

(40:57):
they have to be requested either the county or the sheriff,
or the ghost department or the governor. And they do
all the technical techie stuff. Okay.

Speaker 1 (41:15):
They basically are like the Oklahoma FBI. And where they
got started was this little old lady, the laughing granny,
decided to start poisoning all of her husbands. Well, she
was poisoning them in different counties, and so the sheriffs
and the departments in the different counties couldn't keep up
with all the dudes she was killing. So they had

(41:36):
to form the OSBI because of her case. And then
that's and then and then it has grown. It's just
crazy the stuff that they have now. I mean they've
got DNA. I mean, they've got people they hire just
when they go in on a crime scene. There's some
people that just go in and photograph. Then there's people
that just go in and do the blood tests. They

(41:59):
got the rapid DM now, and they've got rapid DNA
and their mobile. It's just the stuff they've got is crazy.

Speaker 2 (42:04):
So like you know, years ago, you'd get a sample
of DNA and you'd send it off to wherever and
you'd wait a few weeks and go back. Well, now
they can take a sample of the DNA and within
like you said, I think it's like ninety minutes, they'll
know whose DNA this sample belongs to. And if oh yeah,
if they have.

Speaker 4 (42:19):
I still I still listen to that podcast every day.
That's all I listened to anymore, is that crime podcast.
It's called Anatomy and Murder.

Speaker 1 (42:29):
That's what this five week course was. It was like
a five week podcast, but it wasn't a podcast. We
got to watch them.

Speaker 4 (42:36):
Yeah, and you just a lot of you know, sometimes
these cases go back to like I think seventy five
was one that I listened to.

Speaker 1 (42:46):
Yeah they did a could.

Speaker 4 (42:48):
They found blood, Yeah, they found blood back then and
it wasn't until like ninety five that they were like, hey,
pull that back out, we can test that blood now.

Speaker 1 (42:58):
Yeah, exactly, We've got the guy.

Speaker 4 (43:01):
You know. It's you know, twenty years later they're like, hey, guy,
how come your blood was found here?

Speaker 1 (43:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (43:08):
Yeah, yeah they did.

Speaker 4 (43:09):
It's amazing.

Speaker 2 (43:10):
They did one case where this this this old this
older couple was on their way to Colorado for the summer.
They stopped in Boys City, Oklahoma, which is like way
on the Panhandle Way, and it's the armpit of Oklahoma.
And these this these three guys come up or you know,
this group of guys they were driving across the country

(43:32):
and and uh kind of went a little crime spree,
Robin Quick shops and dollar generals I think or dollar yeah,
dollar generals or family dollars or whatever, trying to get
to California to make a better life for themselves. And
they just walk up to this one guy walks up
to this older man and says, give me your wallet,
and the older man says, like it's hard of hearing.

(43:53):
He's like, looks at his wife and she he goes,
what's she said?

Speaker 3 (43:56):
What do you say?

Speaker 2 (43:57):
And then the guy just shot him and killed might
they were dropped in bed on the on the ground.

Speaker 4 (44:02):
It's amazing. I mean how many times a day because I,
like I said, I you know, in an hour day,
I probably listened to you know, seven episodes, you know,
and it's amazing how many times you just saved myself.
I was like, seriously, yeah, you killed somebody over that.

Speaker 3 (44:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (44:20):
Well they didn't even take his money. Crazy, They didn't
take his money. They just the kid panicked and you know,
he was just a young kid and.

Speaker 1 (44:28):
They hopped in the truck and drove off and there
was literally no evidence, not hardly anything. And then and
it was so cool the way that they finally found them.

Speaker 2 (44:38):
You know, it was just they were actually TV one
of those TV shows the episode.

Speaker 1 (44:42):
Like really yeah, one of the big ones, that's.

Speaker 2 (44:45):
I bet you that was Friensic Files, I think forensic.

Speaker 1 (44:51):
But they did cold they did cold cases. They had
a two ladies and a young girl got murdered by
this guy's mom, and they dropped them and buried them
in this pit.

Speaker 2 (45:04):
Which was supposed to be a septic tank, but they
never it.

Speaker 1 (45:08):
Just it was really cool. I mean, we I mean,
it makes you think, you know, okay, if I commit
a crime, it's not going to take them long to
find me. I mean, it just you got it.

Speaker 4 (45:19):
Nowadays, it's just it's almost impossible.

Speaker 1 (45:22):
Yeah, especially with close circuit cameras now and DNA, and.

Speaker 4 (45:28):
But yet I'm also still surprised that, you know, something
that happened in life, say twenty one or something, and
and well he was caught on this camera at the bank,
but it was kind of blurry. It's like, why in
this day and age is there a camera anywhere, especially
in banks? Why isn't it crystal clear it's a bank,

(45:50):
And I never I just don't get that.

Speaker 1 (45:53):
I think just a lot of people don't expect to
get robbed, so they don't upgrade their equipment.

Speaker 4 (45:58):
Yeah, it's like pull them up to a you know,
the window at Jack in the Box and it's like,
it's twenty twenty five. You can't do better than that.

Speaker 2 (46:09):
Yeah. Well, and cameras and cameras now cheap.

Speaker 1 (46:13):
Yeah, it's just replacing them. I just I just think
people just just.

Speaker 4 (46:18):
Don't figure Yeah it still works, so I replace it.

Speaker 3 (46:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:24):
But anyway, back to your question, we got little certificates
for going through the academy and Todd's making it sound
like we've we've got licenses to kill.

Speaker 4 (46:34):
That's what I thought. I was just researching, like what
you guys were able to do.

Speaker 2 (46:41):
We're able to just talk about what we did, that's.

Speaker 4 (46:44):
All, like Crockett and Todds.

Speaker 2 (46:49):
Which one of us is Crocking? Which one of us Rocket?
I can't even remember which one was which? Who is
Don Johnson? Was that Crocoter t look.

Speaker 3 (47:01):
For Wheeler Tuesday nights?

Speaker 4 (47:07):
Uh? Well that's really cool though, guys. So it was
once a week for.

Speaker 1 (47:11):
Five five weeks.

Speaker 2 (47:12):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and they feed us. It was always
always really good food, so very cool.

Speaker 4 (47:19):
I would totally be into that, that's all. Yeah, that
was really interesting.

Speaker 2 (47:22):
I was telling people were doing it and they're like,
I'm so jealous.

Speaker 1 (47:25):
How did how did you get to do that?

Speaker 2 (47:26):
I'm like, Curtis called me on day said hey, you
want to go to this osb I thing and I'm
like sure.

Speaker 1 (47:31):
They invited enid Buzz and said I could bring a friend.

Speaker 2 (47:34):
So I was like, I've got to do a lot
of cool stuff because he eat it buzz.

Speaker 1 (47:38):
Let's go eat buzz that. We even had little cards
eating Buzz cards.

Speaker 2 (47:43):
Oh yeah, well, oh I took a picture of mine
you to post that.

Speaker 4 (47:46):
But isn't that weird too? How things that things that
once kind of you're mildly interested in, Like you know,
i'd sitdn't watch Dateline like KPN if you're started dating
with you know, watched Dateline it's always interesting. But I wasn't,

(48:07):
that was it. And now I'm just like every day
I'm listening to different stories of this crazy that's crazy
ship that goes on. Yeah, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (48:20):
Well, I I went through my my crime podcast phase
and yeah, I couldn't. I could not get enough enough
crime podcast.

Speaker 4 (48:28):
That's that's how I am right now. It's like this
is just interested me more than my music podcast currently.
I mean, I'm sure I'll get back to that, yeah,
but right now it's just like I just when.

Speaker 1 (48:40):
You when you run out of episodes, yeah, then it
goes then you're like okay, and you will run out of.

Speaker 4 (48:46):
Episodes and I've I've I'm getting there because I listened
to so many. I've gone through almost five years at
this show, you know, yeah, you know, five seasons. It's
just it's fascinating just how somebody can do something and
it'll go cold for twenty twenty five years. I've seen

(49:07):
it up to fifty years. There was one really fifty
years and they they solved the case. M that's insane.

Speaker 2 (49:17):
I never I never really got into the murder stuff.
My ex wife, she watched the murder channel all the time,
and it kind of put me off on it, and
I'm like.

Speaker 4 (49:25):
That's kind of how my mom. But I told you,
that's how my mom was. She just she watched that
stuff so much. She was convinced that every other person
was evil.

Speaker 2 (49:34):
You know, Yeah, well I was. I was convinced. Chrissy
was trying to figuret how to do away with me.

Speaker 1 (49:39):
And you get some pretty good ideas, I assure you
if you listen to enough of those, you know, the
ins and outs of how to kill somebody.

Speaker 4 (49:49):
You know. And sometimes I listen to him and go,
I'm surprised they're allowed to do shows like this, because
if criminals listen.

Speaker 2 (49:55):
To shows like that, yeah, they.

Speaker 4 (49:57):
Certainly figure out don't do that, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (50:03):
And that's what this that was what this academy was like,
if you're going to bury a body, be sure and
bury it this deep. And I mean there was things first. First,
they were jotting down like, Okay, we got to bury him.

Speaker 2 (50:14):
This deep and and I learned that from the podcast,
a cadaver dog.

Speaker 4 (50:20):
Can't smell that was it? Yeah more than seven feet there.

Speaker 2 (50:23):
You go, Yeah, this thing these people were eight feet
deep and the murder weapon was thrown in with them.

Speaker 1 (50:29):
Don't throw the murder weapon in with them.

Speaker 4 (50:31):
And yeah, right, yeah, because that's good DNA and that's
got fingerprints and yeah, it's it's fascinating stuff. But you know,
it's the ones where they don't have a body. They
never have found the body, but they were still able
to convict a person.

Speaker 1 (50:53):
Yeah, were still without the body.

Speaker 4 (50:55):
Put enough together, but yeah, it's difficult without a body.
You know, because the people that host the show, one's
a former New York cop and one's a she was
a prosecutor, and so they really kind of talk a
lot about how this stuff works, you know, and it's

(51:15):
just as interesting to listen to their take on it
as it is to listen to the story. And there's
some crazy stories.

Speaker 1 (51:23):
There's some evil people out there, wacky whack.

Speaker 4 (51:26):
That's that's the thing. Sometimes.

Speaker 1 (51:28):
I mean it's like I think that's why I quit listening,
because it it does start to get dark. Yeah, you know,
I'm not.

Speaker 4 (51:36):
There's times, you know, so I've teared up, went like,
you gotta be kidding me that there's people out here
this evil and this poor person didn't do anything. Yeah, well,
it's it's it's sad.

Speaker 1 (51:50):
What was it the cold case or there was a
cold case that we listened to where this guy and
this his wife got divorce and they were having fight
over the custody of their child. That's she went to
visit to see the child at her ex's mom's house.

(52:15):
They never and she took a friend and the friend's
daughter with her, and they never came back home. And
this was in Oklahoma, and they never came home. And
so when they finally dug them up twenty something years later,
dug them up twenty something years later, both adults had
bullet holes in them, but the child had duct tape

(52:41):
all over her head. So they assume that they threw
her in the pit alive because they didn't have the
guts to shoot her, and then buried her alive in
the pit.

Speaker 4 (52:53):
I see this that kind of stuff. There was a
story of this gal who owned a dog grooming place
this and she was she was eight and a half
months pregnant. This lady comes in under the disguise of
want to talk to her about getting her dog groomed.

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She strangles the woman, cuts the baby out.

Speaker 1 (53:18):
Oh oh, I think I remember that story.

Speaker 4 (53:20):
Takes the baby and luckily the police were so on
it and they were able to look at the victim.
They were able to look at her Instagram and other
social media sites and goes she was talking to this woman,
Let's go to her house. And they went to her
house and within twenty four hours they had the baby back,

(53:44):
and you know.

Speaker 3 (53:46):
Was able to.

Speaker 4 (53:48):
Say, you know, because they just it's like, you know,
kind of baby out before it's it born? Is it even?
It just became this case where the detective because they
talked to the detectives that worked the case, and he said,
you know, when the girl the baby, when she graduated
high school, her father called and asked me too if

(54:08):
I would be there, you know, not the father, her
grandparents because they raised her. And it was just really emotional.

Speaker 3 (54:18):
I was like, what's that someone actually, yeah, does that?

Speaker 4 (54:23):
And she was just like the lady who did it
had her husband convinced that she actually had a baby,
and they and the officer said she was a very
large woman. So oh, it was kind of understandable that
he thought she was pregnant. Yeah, you know, he goes

(54:43):
he was a very large woman. And so the lady
just called her husband. After she had murdered the woman
took her baby. She drove to a clinic that she
never even went into. Called her husband and said, oh, honey,
I had the baby. I I'm here at the clinic,
Come pick me up. And he's like, baby and so no, no,

(55:05):
he thought she had been pregnant. She had told him
she'd been pregnant, and that's why she had to go
do that was because it was getting time for her
to have a maybe, and it was just it was
just really twisted tail as to why she did it.
You know, a custody case from her other two kids
to husband was trying to get him back. She wanted
to prove that she had a baby because he was

(55:26):
trying to prove her to be unfit because she was
telling her new husband she was pregnant and he knew
she had her tubes died, and so she wanted to say, well,
there you go, I had a baby. So she went
and killed some woman and took a baby out of
her stomach, and her current husband totally bought it. He
thought she had had a baby. So when the police

(55:48):
come to the door, they were investigating a murder. A
woman was killed, pregnant ONEm was killed, and he goes, oh,
that's strange, my wife just had a baby, Yesterdy not knowing.
It's just some of the stories you hear. Man. It's
just like you said, man, there's some really twisted, evil

(56:10):
people out there and even think twice about doing it.

Speaker 2 (56:13):
And then something else of those, in my mind is
it's how cruel women can be. You know, you I mean,
I like, you know, guys are bad, you know, you
think women are nurturing and motherly and all. Heck no,
they'll cut your baby right out of you.

Speaker 3 (56:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (56:29):
I will say that most of the cases are men
doing the nasty, you know, doing horrible stuff. But there's
I'm surprised how many are committed by women too that.

Speaker 2 (56:42):
Are just well, this is just this grandmother that killed
the three women with a little baby. The young girl
who wrapped her face and duct tape. She was I
can't remember her name, but she was famous for like
running bra.

Speaker 1 (57:01):
Uh and being maybe even tied to the mob.

Speaker 2 (57:03):
She was, yeah, tied to the mob. Uh, hold out,
hold out her own children, even her son. She was
prostituting her son. Just just evil lady. And and she
was hooked up with the d A or the sheriff
of that county. And that's what that's one of the
reasons she was getting away with so much stuff.

Speaker 1 (57:24):
Oh it was terrible, great crazy stories. Yeah, okay, okay.

Speaker 2 (57:30):
Well okay, I need to take a shower now again. Yeah,
I need to cleanse my palette. I need to watch
a colony or something.

Speaker 4 (57:41):
Really quick, because you know, JP is here and she's
k k I KP. She says, she's making dinner. Sweet.
Have you guys watched that that Oklahoma City bombing documentary?

Speaker 2 (58:00):
Which one? There's several of them.

Speaker 1 (58:01):
I have not watched.

Speaker 4 (58:02):
It's a brand new one.

Speaker 1 (58:04):
Yeah, I have not watched the brand new one.

Speaker 2 (58:05):
There. There are several came out this year.

Speaker 1 (58:07):
Well it's that the next Netflix. Yeah, it's the new
Netflix one.

Speaker 2 (58:11):
Yeah, I watched them all.

Speaker 4 (58:13):
Yeah. I mean I was very aware when it happened,
you know, But watching that documentary, was.

Speaker 2 (58:22):
It the one with Stephen Jones in it or not?

Speaker 1 (58:24):
Yeah? He was interviewed in it.

Speaker 2 (58:26):
Okay, well there's another one that he's not in it
at all, and it's just equally as good, just totally different.

Speaker 4 (58:32):
They have this has you know, interviews with the survivor,
you know, like it's just specifically one lady who was
buried in the rebble for a long time.

Speaker 1 (58:45):
And then a lot of the newscasters that were Robin
Marshall Yeah, yeah, yeah, I was wondering that too, going,
I bet you're Curtis like, recognize these news gusts.

Speaker 2 (58:55):
Oh, she's still there. They're still they're still on the
air today.

Speaker 4 (58:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (58:59):
Rob had just started when that when that happened.

Speaker 2 (59:02):
Evan Ogle was there, he's still there too.

Speaker 1 (59:04):
Yeah, their co host, and like we say, Stephen Jones,
I saw him at a restaurant two weeks two weeks ago.

Speaker 2 (59:10):
He was there with when you and I and Gritchen
went oh that's right.

Speaker 1 (59:13):
Yeah yeah, it was at we too, eating breakfast.

Speaker 4 (59:17):
Yeah. It just made me think, it's like, yeah, I
bet that was for you guys, because is not that
far from you, is it?

Speaker 1 (59:24):
I mean, oh no, no, it was, it was. It
just it was nine one one, I mean.

Speaker 4 (59:30):
It was That's what I think is like that. It
had to have been a magnitude for you guys. I
can't imagine. Yeah, yeah, it was.

Speaker 2 (59:40):
It was I know exactly where I was just.

Speaker 1 (59:43):
You know, like when I was in my office at
Evans and Lily and Evans came through saying, murror building
blew up in Oklahoma City. They think it might have
been a ghast League.

Speaker 2 (59:52):
And you were like, what's a mule building?

Speaker 1 (59:54):
And I'm like, you know, I'm thinking, oh, wow, gas
leak explosion, no big deal. And then I I think
I flipped on the TV. I think I had a
little TV in the office and I had been listening
to Rush Limbaugh, and then I think it started to
go national, and then flipped on the news and once
you saw the front of the building gone, you knew
something something something. And then in Oklahoma this was the

(01:00:20):
thing where we experienced where nobody else did. TV stations
and radio stations all went live twenty four to seven
for probably the first three or four days. I mean,
I remember the cat and some of those radio stations.
No music. They just talked, interviewed, talked and interviewed and talked,
and it just it just it was twenty four hour

(01:00:42):
coverage for days.

Speaker 2 (01:00:43):
Something somebody brought up in one of those documentaries. They
were moved by the fact that everyone started driving with
their headlights on.

Speaker 1 (01:00:52):
Oh yeah, I kind of remember that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:53):
And you know, back then you only did that when
you went to a funeral.

Speaker 1 (01:00:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:00:57):
Nowadays, almost everybody's headlights on all the time, but that
was a big deal. Back then, everybody drove around the
state with their headlight on just out of respect.

Speaker 4 (01:01:04):
Yeah. It was just so crazy too that they that
the guy what's what town was? It meant to bring
that up, but they ended up picking up McVeigh.

Speaker 2 (01:01:17):
And Perry not that long.

Speaker 5 (01:01:19):
Yeah, so here, here's here's a not that long afterwards
because he was speeding. Yeah, well he didn't have a
license plate. Here here's a caveat. Yeah, so I'll get
this story. This is a great show.

Speaker 1 (01:01:29):
So my ex, her mom, and her friend were on
I thirty five that day driving and they got a
flat tire and a highway patrolman pulled over on I
thirty five and helped them change their tire. That was
a highway patrolman that then left them and got behind

(01:01:49):
Timothy McVeigh and pulled him over for not having a
license plate and then arresting him, and then he ended
up in the Perry jail and then they found so
had they not had a flat tire, the highway patrolman
may not have seen McVeigh and he may have gotten away,
and and he just.

Speaker 4 (01:02:08):
I mean, and they just so crazy. They were like,
is he still there? Yeah, just make sure he stays
here until we get there. And they said that, you know,
it was on the TV on the news, and he
said he just every once in a while he would
just kind of look up and then put his head

(01:02:29):
right back down. He wasn't fixated on it like everybody
else was. He just kept his head down and every
once in a while he'd kind of look up. And
then they had a you know, a tape of him
talking said, the first time I got to see what,
you know, the effects of what I did was when

(01:02:50):
I looked up at the TV in the police station.

Speaker 2 (01:02:53):
Like, what did you hear him say? He told he
told everybody just to get over it.

Speaker 4 (01:02:58):
Yeah, it just no remorse remorse about it at all.

Speaker 2 (01:03:02):
Yeah, you know, yeah, he was evil, he was crazy.

Speaker 4 (01:03:07):
Actually, I'd tell I was gonna watch it again today
before you called, just because sometimes I like to watch
things twice and I really got you missed it. Yeah,
so all right fellas.

Speaker 2 (01:03:21):
All right, well tell k people again. We said hide
and go eat dinner and uh and.

Speaker 1 (01:03:26):
Let's get that vinyl going here soon.

Speaker 4 (01:03:28):
All right, all right, all right, yeah, okay, I got
a little dark.

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Mm hmm