Bye Bye OC

Bye Bye OC

Are you like nearly a million Californians who are considering leaving in the next year? Is Orange County way too expensive? Or liberal? Or taxed? Or Populated? Or do you want to retire somewhere else to make your savings last longer? Bye Bye OC is the podcast for California residents who don’t just want to talk about leaving, but actually want to make a plan and DO IT! Shell Pavlis, an OC resident and REALTOR, has gathered a ton of info and talks to experts across the country about how to leave, where to go and everything in between. Shell will help you say "Bye Bye, OC."


January 26, 2021 27 mins

This episode’s expert guest joins us to discuss how tiny house living can possibly help you leave California. Ethan Waldman is the author of two books; Tiny House Decisions and Tiny House Parking. He is also the host of the podcast, Tiny House Lifestyle, a show that brings you conversations with tiny house luminaries, builders, and DIYers.


A tiny house is gene...

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This is part 2 of Bye Bye OC’s top 5 most Popular Destinations for Californians Moving Out of State. In part 1 we talked about destinations 4 and 5, Oregan and Nevada. We also had an expert guest join us from our special mention state of Idaho to talk about why moving there could also be the choice for you.


In this episode we talk about the top 3 most popular ...

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On this special 2 part episode of Bye Bye OC, we’ll cover the top 5 most popular destinations for Californians moving out of state. We go in reverse order, so we start with numbers 4 & 5 and we also touch on a special mention that didn’t make the list.


We all have different reasons for relocating so we’ll go through the differences from state-to-state. Some lo...

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Lauralee Hites is the founder of Stratavize Consulting. One of the many solutions she and her team offers is supporting U.S states that aim to provide an attractive living environment to people moving in from abroad.


Lauralee has moved across the country numerous times. Along the way she’s kept track of what went right wi...

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Mads Singers has more than 10 years of experience in Fortune 500 companies, such as Xerox

and IBM, and more than 7 years of experience coaching and consulting online entrepreneurs. Currently, Mads owns and runs 3 companies, and manages more than 100 people, he doesn’t just talk the talk, he walks the walk.


Mads joins Bye ...

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John Joines is the co-host of the Uprooted Podcast with his wife Christine. Together they talk about navigating their way through life, parenting, and everything in between all alone in Massachusetts. The Uprooted name comes from their experience of leaving everything they’ve ever known behind in California to establish new roots in the Bay State.


John shares ...

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August 4, 2020 41 mins

Trey Miller is a Marine Corp Veteran and the founder of Ghost Tactical Productions, a Pro-Gun media organization operating in Arkansas. Trey started Ghost Tactical Productions with the mission to educate, inform, and engage in conversations that will tear down the misconceptions

surrounding gun people. He lives in Herber Springs, Arkansas and is the host of the ...

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July 21, 2020 34 mins

Camy Kennedy is a Mindset & Life Coach working with high achievers to create breakthroughs in health, wealth and love. With a background in molecular biology, neuroscience & psychology she provides a framework for incremental success. It's not about being perfect, it's about practicing your potential! She’s an international speaker and has been featured in Oxygen Magazine and


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July 7, 2020 34 mins

One of the main reasons that people want to move away from California is the cost of living. One of the major costs is your home. Our Guest, Eric Miller, helps us sort through possible aspects of lowering the cost of owning your home through your mortgage and what you might be able to have a little more control over your money.


Eric Miller is a full service mortgage banker, offering a diverse portfolio of home loan products. Eric...

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June 23, 2020 29 mins

Emily and Joe Wise both grew up in California and decided to move to Iowa in 2013. Emily and Joe join the podcast to talk about why they decided to move from California to Iowa, what it’s like to live in Iowa, how property taxes differ from California, what it’s like to start a family and raise children in Iowa and how to get ready to make your move from California to Iowa.


Emily previously worked in the medical field as a recept...

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June 23, 2020 10 mins

There are nearly a million Californians who are considering leaving in the next year. Bye Bye OC is the podcast for California residents who don’t just want to talk about leaving, but actually want to make a plan and DO IT! My name is Shell Pavlis and I have been assisting home buyers and sellers find their perfect home since 2001.


In the first episode of Bye Bye O.C. I want to give you an idea of who I am, what to expect from fu...

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