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March 18, 2025 38 mins

Oleg Smirnov and Gallya Lahav delve into the often-overlooked topic of climate change-driven migration. Host Heather Lynch speaks with Smirnov and Lahav, associate professor and professor in the Department of Political Science, about the definitions and implications of climate migrants, the controversial term 'environmental refugees,' and the geopolitical ramifications of international climate negotiations, particularly the inconsistent participation in the United States. They explore the urgent need for revised international policies to address the growing number of people displaced by climate-related events.

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  • 00:00 Introduction to Climate-Driven Migration
  • 02:04 Understanding Climate Refugees
  • 06:13 Drought as a Driver of Migration
  • 11:27 The Finite Pool of Worry
  • 14:57 Hurricane Florence Case Study
  • 27:29 International Climate Negotiations
  • 33:06 Future of Migration and Climate Change
  • 36:14 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

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