Pixie Sticks, Family Loans, and Florida Man's Free Ride

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Ever feel like your job is the same routine on repeat? Shawn and G kick off with a candid discussion about flight attendant burnout and the need for mental stimulation beyond the galley cart. Shawn reveals how he balances his airline career with real estate photography while G warns about the dangers of DIY garage door spring repairs – a perfect metaphor for knowing when to call in professionals versus handling life's challenges yourself.

The conversation takes a delightful detour down memory lane as they reminisce about childhood candies that defined generations. From Fun Dip's sugar-coated sticks to Pixie Sticks' powdery mess and the ethically questionable candy cigarettes, their nostalgic candy tour reveals how much has changed in food safety and marketing. They share laugh-out-loud stories about jawbreakers cutting their tongues and still continuing to eat them, proving some childhood lessons are learned the hard way.

Things take a more reflective turn when they discuss aging concerns and planning for elder care, especially poignant for those without children as a potential support system. Shawn then shares a revealing personal story about lending money to family and his creative solution – transforming a potentially awkward situation into a teaching moment about financial responsibility by creating a formal loan agreement. The episode wraps with aviation news about a modern-day Frank Abagnale who scored 120 free flights by manipulating airline systems, reminding us that sometimes truth is stranger than fiction.

Whether you're facing career monotony, navigating family financial dynamics, or simply craving a sweet trip down memory lane, this episode offers both lighthearted entertainment and thoughtful perspectives on life's complex challenges. Leave a comment about your favorite childhood candy or how you've handled lending money to family – we'd love to hear your stories!

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
Summer's here, it's hot and we're heading to Florida
.
What is one of your favoritecandies when you were a kid?
Florida man booked for 120 freeflights, posing as a flight
attendant.
All this next on Cabin Pressure, with Sean and G hey, everyone

(00:39):
welcome.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
This is Cabin Pressure.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
Ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba.
What's up everybody.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
All you had to add was like shama-lama-ding-dong.

Speak (00:52):
Shama-lama-lama-ding-dong .
Hey, pretty lady.
Hey, what's up people?
What's going on?
Yeah, man, not much man.
We're just, you know, gearingup all this stuff.
Man, we're doing the vacationto the Amelia Island with the uh
nieces.
It has been a crazy thingleading up to this.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
Like my nieces, every like, almost every other day,
are like facetiming me do youever notice, like when we get on
and we do these shows that wealways talk about you and
vacation?

Speaker 1 (01:27):
That's a good thing.
This is a healthy.
We don't ever talk about youand work Well at times.
There's sporadic moments thatwe can talk about I talk about
Carol at work.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
Carol's at work.
I see her all the time.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
So here's the thing.
So so, for all you out there inin the uh land of cabin
pressure world, okay, I justwanted to let you know that even
though g says I'm not working,I am working because there's
other stuff that I'm doing.
So right now I've got my uhbusiness going here with a uh
estate photography.
So I like, literally after weget done with this thing, I'm

(02:07):
heading to an appointment to goto a real estate job.
I love getting this shit.
He's making it sound like justbecause I'm not flying, I'm not
working.
Believe me, I'm working becausemy wife, she, wants a check
every month.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
I love making it sound like he's always on the
golf course.
He's out doing something.
I love making it sound likehe's always on the golf course.
He's out doing something, he'staking it easy, he's going on
vacation, it's a balancing act.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
His ass is always doing something, as our buddy
Rob at work.
He's like I just want to comeback in life.
I want to be Sean.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
Which iron in the fire are you firing up in this
week?
That's the question, man, it'salways something You're always
doing, some kind of shit.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
Yeah, man, but I'm working in different aspects
because, you know, my one thingis that like and I don't know
how do you feel about this Likewe've been doing this
30-something years okay.
And this is a super easy job toget burnt.
You get burnt out Like it getsmonotonous, like we know how to

(03:06):
do this, like we can do this inour sleep.
We know like we're on the planeso much that it feels like our
home, like I could close my eyesand I know where everything on
the plane is.
I that would be a cool test forflight attendants like, if
you're a real flight attendant,do you know how to locate things
with a blindfold?
You know like we've been therelike that's our homes, like but
but there's a burnout to me,like I need more like mental

(03:28):
stimulation, like so that's whyI'm always getting into things.
I'm going to school, I'm doingother jobs, I got, I got my
entrepreneurial things going on,and so for me, this job, like
at one point, can be verymonotonous, right, you know I
mean, even though I get it.
I mean there's people and youknow it's people who are fun to

(03:49):
deal with on a daily basis andall that stuff, but at the same
time it just there's no mentalstimulation to the job a lot of
times, right my reference ourjob a lot of times.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
Groundhog's day, bill murray yeah, I mean that.
That is the perfect thedescription of our job I come
here and I do the same thingover, over and over and over
again.
The only thing is is thatinside your head sometimes you
think, okay, when this personcomes up and punching him in the
face, right, groundhog's day.
You guys ever seen groundhog'sday?
You he realizes that he's goingthrough the day and then he

(04:23):
just changed the shit.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
You know that would be a good movie Like do the
Groundhog's Day on an airline asa flight attendant.
That's it and all this stuff,just like you're saying, like us
every day.
Here comes this past year.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
Dump hot coffee in his lap.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
Yeah, right.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
Throw orange juice in your face, yeah.
Right Tell your kid that he'sugly yeah, throat punch somebody
in the.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
It would be the perfect, like it would be so
funny to like.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
But that's exactly what it is, because when we get
on the plane, we do the samething over and over and over
again, and I and I I've saidthis a thousand times over in
our job in our job the play isalways the same.
The actors are different right,because that goes for the crew
and it goes for the passengers,because we see different people
and different crew members everyday, but the play is actually

(05:15):
the same, so it's just veryrepetitious.
But if you ever want to seesomething, we see groundhog's
day.
Imagine a flight attendantdoing groundhog's day.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
That shit shit was funny.
That would be like we got tothink about that a little bit
more.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
We'll have a movie Sean and G's on the airplanes.
Groundhog Day.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
Yeah, because that is some crazy stuff.
That would be funny.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
I could imagine you throat punching somebody Dude.
Okay, have a nice day.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
I'd like to just bitch slap somebody.
You know those like slappingcompetitions you see online all
the time.

Speaker 2 (05:52):
I'd love to just like boom and they like somebody
just gets knocked out in theseat that's like that funny one,
that where there's flightattendants are saying goodbye
and they're like uh, uh, get outof here.
Your wife is ugly, your baby'sugly, yeah what were you
thinking this morning?

Speaker 1 (06:07):
you're coming on like that.
Yeah, exactly, bitch, what areyou doing here in those slippers
?
Anyways, um, yeah, so, uh, man,uh, what was I talking about?
Uh, we're getting ready to goto these amusement parks and, uh
, I am dreading this becauseI've already done this like
summer retreat to the amusementparks down in florida and all my

(06:31):
whole vision, like I'm justlike having these waves of like
I'm gonna be hot, I'm gonna likebe so miserable but wait, man,
you're with, you're with thekids.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
Yes, bullshit.
Let me tell you somethingYou're a goofball.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
I know, as soon as kids get around you you're a
goofball.
But anybody that knows me, whenI get too hot I get very
irritable.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
And I'm going to have to contain myself on this
vacation because I know, get oneof them.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
Damn little fans that missed your ass.
We are, we're going to get someof those fans off of Amazon and
all that stuff and hang themaround our neck.
You're officially old guy.
Like every time we go to theparks, every time we buy, like
this, like you know, a wholecollection of like.
We've had the powered fans withthe water bottle.
That's missed you on it.
We've had those.
We've had the things hangingaround your necks.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
You're going to have a big ass floppy hat with the
big, you know.
I mean We've had the thingshanging around your necks,
you're going to have a big-assfloppy hat with the big, you
know, I think that's a good idea.

Speaker 1 (07:28):
Exactly, I got one of those, if you need one.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
Yeah, is it a sombrero?
No, it's a big floppy one.
It's one of the ones for thebaseball.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
Oh, okay, gotcha.
It'll cover your neck.
Oh yeah, it folds down.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
That's a good idea, man You're going to look a
little goofy, but you'll becovered.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
We're officially old man.
That's where we're going.
We're going to see Goofy.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
Get the Hawaiian shirt now too, Right.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
The big old flowers on there.
Yeah, if you know him, he'd dothat shit too.
Hell, yeah, anyhow, man, that'swhat I got going on.
What have you been doing?

Speaker 2 (08:07):
Okay, okay, go going back to, uh, that storm that had
come through.
I had an issue with, uh uh,garage door opener.
So, um, I went in there it wasa power.
You know I was having a powerissue with it and found out the
power's fine, I I think theoutlet got blown.
But then, you know, this isthis is the one thing that I
hated.
We just I'm getting ready tochange my garage door, so you
have a double garage door yeah,man, okay, be careful, be
careful yeah, I know I'vealready changed.

(08:29):
I know the springs andeverything.
I've done all that you've donethe springs.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
Oh yeah, I'm gonna tell you right now there's no
way in hell in anybody'slifetime that I will touch a
spring.
Those things are the mostdangerous thing in your house.
I mean, mean, like you have nobusiness doing, I did the damn
things, redoing the tension onthe.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
All right, I've got tension rods for the springs.
Listen, I did them.
You count the damn things.

Speaker 1 (08:53):
Here's the one thing that people don't understand and
G doesn't either that he'sgetting old, that we don't need
to be doing some of this shitanymore and quit being so damn
tight.
Spend some to be doing some ofthis shit anymore and quit being
so damn tight.
Spend some of that money.
You do, you, you, you, you workyour ass off.
You can spend some money tokeep yourself safe because,
honestly, dude, I'm seriousabout this.
You've got to start thinkingabout listen.

(09:16):
I want to retire here soon.
I'm gonna have enjoying my life.
I want to be in the stuff, butstop doing unsafe shit all right
, get back to the damn.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
Springs are bad, the springs are bad and I wouldn't
suggest that anyone else otherthan me do it, so shut up.
Um, so anyway, I, I did that.
That's not.
The part of it is that thegarage door opener itself so had
a half horsepower on that damnslow.
You know, I've had a half horsehour that is ridiculous yeah,

(09:45):
on.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
There that's so that part, like it's funny that you
bring this up.
It's like that's like a builderthing the builder puts on a
half horsepower damn garage dooropener on your thing and it's
the same way for your garbagedisposal.
Yeah, they put you a halfhorsepower garbage, a quarter
horsepower garbage disposalbarely can grind shit up.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
It gets clogged and all that stuff.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
Dude, I changed mine out almost after I built my
house and my garbage disposal.
Dude, I got a horsepower and ahalf.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
I'm going to go on with that in a minute too,
because with the garbagedisposal, when they run that,
we'll go back to the garage dooropener in a second.
But when they run that, whenthey run, we'll go back to the
garage door opener a second.
But when they run that, that,that water line, you know that
from the garage door, I'm sorry,from the garbage disposal to to
the, to the dishwasher, right,okay, that shit is ran on the

(10:40):
ground.
Okay, at the very base of it.
That's a big, that's a bigbullshit thing, because what
happens is have you ever openedyour uh, your uh dishwasher and
there's water in the base ofthat?
Yeah, okay, and when it'srunning, but when it, when it
goes, have you ever had backfeet of water come through there
?
I have not, okay, so you, ifyou ever do the?

(11:03):
The reason is that when theyrun that line, they run that
line low and it doesn't create aloop, so the garbage disposal
fills up and the water goes init, and when it overfills in it,
it goes back in the dishwasher.
Oh yeah, and all that shitty-asswater goes in the dishwasher.

Speaker 1 (11:19):
Yeah, if you don't have your shit plumbed right, it
will definitely jack you up bigtime.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
Right, and it's all in the building part when they
install it.
So if you come up like 10inches and put that return drain
through there by 10 inches high, it creates basically a loop in
it and it stops all thatbullshit water coming back.
The dumbasses don't do thateither.
I mean, every once in a whilewe talk about builders and stuff

(11:46):
what they don't do in theirhouses and you find out and that
was one of the things I waslike I couldn't figure out Every
time I opened the damndishwasher it stunk.
It was just this bad smell.
It was created by the damngarbage disposal, because the
garbage disposal line was toolow, raised it up, created a
loop, stopped all that shit, andI don't have any problems with

(12:07):
it since.
No smell, no nothing.
Now going back to the stupidgarage door opener.
Now, the damn thing was toodamn slow.
That was the builder that putit in there.
So I'm getting ready to put aone and a quarter horsepower.
This is like tool time, Tim.
Right, I'm switching them, I'mputting more power on, because I
can't stand that garage door isso freaking slow.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
Yeah, yeah.
You probably aren't the mostpatient person.
I know, no For sure.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
Especially waiting for a damn garage door opener
and that stupid thing but becareful, be careful.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
I'm going to tell you right now, like I replaced mine
, I did the same thing.
I upgraded and had a you knownew uh garage powerhouse up
there and uh, it's not.
That's not a huge complicatedjob to like do by yourself, no,
but um, I got up on the ladderfor mine, man, and this was like
10 years ago and I'm likeliterally closing up, I had done

(12:59):
everything.
It's all hooked up, it'srunning.
I gotta like I closed the light, you know case, and all that
stuff, and I'm stepping off mylast step, off the little step
ladder I'm using and I trip andI freaking tear my meniscus.
Oh my god, dude, like in amonth later.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
Why would you throw that shit to me now?
I'm getting ready to do thatshit and you're like hey, be
careful with that last step,because I tore my minute.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
Here's, here's my thing, like Like I thought, hey,
I'm done right, boom, boom, andI just like stepped back and
boom, but I was using one ofthose little, teeny, small, just
small step ladders and thestupid thing that I did which is
I'm a stupid shit, right, Okay,you are.
No, no, no, don't agree soquickly Is that I had two

(13:48):
ladders sitting right next to mein the garage that were like
platform step ladders, you know,like they fold out and I
actually have a platform tostand on, like I have like, yeah
, and that's just be careful theone that I will use.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
yeah, and then, when I put the garage door opener
together, I'll put it on theground and all I have to do is
raise that damn thing up andhook it up there.
You, you go, and I won't stepoff.
And if I fuck up my meniscusbecause of you, I'm going to
tell you something.
I'm telling you what man I'mcoming over your house.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
It's easy.
You need time off work anyways,whatever.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
Anyway, that's what I'm doing, because that damn
thing is too slow and I'm gonnatake that horse, that one half
horsepower.

Speaker 1 (14:31):
I'm gonna put it on the single because you know I
never did you, do you have you,don't you?

Speaker 2 (14:33):
you just have the double?
Did you have a double and asingle ever before?
No, never.
Okay, because I never.
I had never put that like oneon the single.
I just lifted it up.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
Right, should have put it on there years ago, but
anyway, um well I mean, that'show mine was built, like we had
a garage door open on both ofthem.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
Yeah, I'm going to just take the half horsepower
one, I'm going to slide it overto the single I'm going to use
and I'm going to get some powerman.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
That damn thing is going to be fast, oh my gosh Not
fast enough, but it'll be fast.
Okay, tool time Shit would justshoot right up right Double
garage door, just like right upbecause it has to be fast.
Yeah, slam right down.
You're so crazy man.
Hey, I was, you know what.
I was thinking about somethingthe other day and I was, uh,

(15:12):
like you know how, I have mysweet tooth, like I love my
candy, and I started thinkingabout like all this candy that's
in the world because, like I ifanybody's known me like any
time in my whole entire career,like I've been, I've done so
many jobs and everything.
But I'm gonna tell you like,like I was a supervisor for the
flight attendants, at one pointin my office I had a drawer of

(15:33):
candy.
You know, like I candy's alwaysbeen in my life, like I love it
.
But the nostalgic candy I wasstarted thinking about it, all
the like fun, nostalgic candy.
And there's a and and why Istarted thinking about it?
Because there's a store here inour hometown and and the place
is called sweets and geeks andhave you been in there?

Speaker 2 (15:53):
yeah, I have.
It's on freaking believable sothey took a.

Speaker 1 (15:57):
They took a.
Uh, an old, um, it used to bean ace hardware store and it's
double story.
Uh, ace hardware store, a hugewarehouse, and this warehouse is
full of nothing but candy andgames.
Right, I mean it is like.
It's like if you want to getyour kid thing on, can I mean
geek sweets and geeks is theplace to go.

(16:19):
But I mean they have.
You can walk in there and justjust reminisce about all this
crazy candy, and one of myfavorite ones growing up as a
kid was Fun Dip.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
Well, that's you Fun Dip.
No, you are a Fun Dip, yeahright, that makes complete sense
.
Dude, I love it.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
I love the Fun Dip.
You open a little thing you hadthe sugar spatula thing,
whatever and then you dip itinto each one and lick it off
okay what was the?

Speaker 2 (16:47):
what was the bullshit thing about fun dip that they
changed later on?
No, I don't know.
They used to only put one damnstick in there.
Oh yeah, one one stick forthree different pouches.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
You had like grape, strawberry and lemon, lime or
whatever it was right you'd havethe and then be like, like
sealed for those three pouches,and then you had to eat one
stick.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
And that one stick, you'd start putting it in your
mouth and you know you startchewing on it.
They say you know you got somedamn nub.
By the time you get to the endof it it's almost like a packet
of your next one, your big pixiestick.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
Exactly that's what I'm saying.
I was like when I was a kid Ididn't get that little like
sugar stick, yeah, and I'd belike it was like a, it was like
the first sweet tart.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
What's the first thing you did when you dumped it
in your throat?
Hmm, like cough and sugarflying out of your mouth Right.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
Anybody that had a pixie stick.
Yeah, pixie sticks was the nextthing I was getting to man.
The pixie sticks are like crazy.
Remember how they had.
Like the pixie sticks were,like they had like the little,
teeny small ones came in abundle package.
I remember, but remember thelike the super giant one yard.

Speaker 2 (17:54):
Yeah, they that was later though.

Speaker 1 (17:58):
Yeah, they supersized them damn things later, but
they that was a big plasticthing, yeah, and you had a huge
amount of powder coming out,powder man, it was like, and you
poured it in your mouth andcough and powdered sugar go
everywhere and it was so crazyman.
But then you know there's likea lot of these.
I'm like I haven't.
I can't remember the last timeI had any of these like a fun

(18:20):
dip or pixie steps, and youdon't see these candies around.
You know they're not allowed.
The only thing that's aroundnow is the monster candy
organizations.
You know the hershey, the mars,those company, those candies
are all over the impulseshelving at the grocery market.
Right, but but these old oneslike now or later.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
I was going to say those.
Those were the very first onesthat you know.
You bit into that.
You, freaking, locked yourteeth together.
Yeah Well, they would gettogether.
And that's what I'm saying.
Your teeth, you locked themtogether.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
You couldn't get them apart.

Speaker 2 (19:01):
You're like, you're a certain one if your fillings
were going to come out?
Yeah, now or later it's gonna.

Speaker 1 (19:03):
You're gonna get this chewed up, yeah, but you sit
there most of the time.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
Later you check fillings after you.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
Oh, there's many a fillings that came out on an
hour later.
Yeah, it was a dentist dreamlike oh yeah, this just brought
me work and kept me in businessas far as it should have been
like dental insurance plan, youknow insurance.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
And God forbid that you get those things, that
they're a little bit old,because them damn things were
like rocks.

Speaker 1 (19:26):
Oh dude, they turn into like like they would like
crystallize and like break apartlike crumble.
Actually, that's the best timeto eat them because it wouldn't
stick in your mouth, right, yeah, they'd be be little pieces,
but yeah, I mean like now orlaters were like everywhere
Everybody had now or laters.
And they'd come in those littleteeny like little packets, like
it was like I don't know howmany were like 10 in a little

(19:47):
packet or something like that,and yeah, and then they were
wrapped like 15 times it tookyou a while to get to the candy,
to get that thing it was.
It was crazy because you gotsome now and you got some later.
Yeah, exactly, exactly.
But then, uh, what about likethe things that they did that
were like fun things likewhistle pops?

Speaker 2 (20:09):
you know, I seen those.
I never got into those.
You never got into whistle pops.

Speaker 1 (20:13):
No, no, I seen them but I never got into them
Whistle pops and then, like youknow, the pop rings.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
Yeah, remember the pop rings.
Those things, but that was alittle bit later too.
Remember the earlier ones.
Remember the cherry chews thatyou used to get in the big vats,
I mean like a big barrel yeah,Because a lot of that penny
candy when we used to go tothese dime stores, because our
dime store was Ben Franklin, sowe used to go to this dime store
.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
First of all, you just mentioned something that
maybe half the audience doesn'teven know.
What the hell you're talkingabout A dime store there was a
dime store.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
Yeah, all they know right now is dollar store.
Penny candy.

Speaker 1 (20:49):
Right.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
Penny candy.
So you go in there and what itis?
It was like it was this.
Ben Franklin's was this littleplace that had a bunch of candy
and stuff in it, but it wasalways in these barrels and it
was so funny that nowadays thishas never happened.
I don't know if we talked aboutthis before, but it would never
happen today.
They would have these barrelsof candy unwrapped, right,

(21:13):
they're just sitting there andthey had these cherry chews and
you'd walk in there and backthen you thought, man, you had a
shitload of money.
You had 50 cents on you 75cents.
You, you were the king, rightthey would.
You'd get this little um uh bagand you you go load this, this
candy.
And now you get, using yourbare hands, you're reaching in

(21:33):
there, got that, that, that bearcandy thrown in inside there,
get.
You're reaching in there, gotthat bear candy throwing it
inside there.
Get them root bear balls.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
Yeah, root barrel balls.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
Yeah, you have those things.
You have the cherry chews, youhave all kinds of different
kinds of candy and you'rethrowing it inside this bag.
Then you walk it up to thecounter and there's this old
dude sitting up there and he'slike what you got?
And he takes your bag and hedumps it on a dirty counter and
he starts counting it out withhis dirty fingers.
And then he scoops it all backup with his dirty hands and puts

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it back in that bag and all youcould do is that you're looking
at it Like there's a miraclehappen right now.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
Right, and I can't wait, I can't wait to get into
that bag.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
I am so going to eat all those things and you're not
even thinking about that dirtyman's nasty fingers.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
No, no, no, no, not at all.
But then, like you know, solike today's world, we got the
bulk candy places that are like,just like that.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
But we don't have the dirty hands.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
We got scoops in the bins, everything's wrapped,
everything's like a sanitizeryou know like.
For the most part, I mean it'sa different experience.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
You would never see it.

Speaker 1 (22:36):
And it's not a penny because those son of bitches in
these new places dude.

Speaker 2 (22:41):
Outrageous.
You're going to get a bag ofcandy.
There's a couple of them onhere.
We're going to talk about themand one of them that.
I don't know if we're going tojump ahead on this one, but one
of the candy buttons right onthe paper.

Speaker 1 (22:54):
No, the buttons are coming up Okay, like paper.
We used to know the buttons are.
The buttons are coming up okay,like how much.
That's like the the worst candyI ever ate no way.
Yes, that was by the foot.
We used to buy it.
I know you'd buy that like youpeel off like a.

Speaker 2 (23:06):
It was like toilet paper, like yeah, they would
candy dots on it.
They would, they would take itand they'd pull it apart and
they'd have they have a footmarked on that dirty, yeah, on
that dirty, and you could tearit, tear it out that tear out
that thing.

Speaker 1 (23:18):
And then you would take the little little dots of
sugar that were on there andyou'd peel them off.
And it was impossible to peelthem without taking paper.
It didn't hurt you and we atethat shit.
We ate so much paper.
Back then I mean it was crazy,right?

Speaker 2 (23:35):
wood product all digestible and the funny thing
about it is they used to be onthese big ass rolls right and
and they had these markers andyou pull them out one foot, two
foot, three foot and they'd rollthem back up and throw them
that same ass dirty bag.
But they you would sit thereand you take it up there and
they'd measure it out at thecountertop.
Do the same thing.

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Nowadays it's like they gotthem pre-packaged.
They're individually wrapped,they're like one foot they're
actually still left about a footlong yeah and and and.
They're actually the same waythat they sold them, but they're
.
They're in packages, yeah, andthey're.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
They're there too but they got all these watermelon
flavors, all these other kindstoo yeah, it's not like a roll
on the wall that they just weused to like yeah, I still eat
the paper.
It's like eating glue.
I I.
I don't know if I can do thatanymore so you could yeah,
anyways, I went into this bulkcandy store too the other day
and I was looking at this uh,whole area and they had a bulk

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area of pez Really and likegiant bins, like one bin, like
you know, thousands of oneflavor of the Pez and I used to
love Pez when I was a kid.
I mean those little Pez thingslike popping those things,
popping the head open and thething like pops out.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
Those things are worth a shitload of money too.
They're very collectible thevintage ones.

Speaker 1 (24:55):
Yeah, they're very collectible now, I mean all that
type of stuff and and they'restill like you can still.
You rarely see them.
But sweets and geeks has pedsdispensers for you now.

Speaker 2 (25:06):
So if you had that pet, I cannot imagine those
little bitty pieces of candy,okay yeah, and those peds
dispensers.
You constantly open that damnthing.
Yeah, yeah, freaking things.
Just keep it, no how we ate it.

Speaker 1 (25:18):
It was like we would load it up in that little
spring-loaded thing and thenwe'd push them all in and then
we'd flip back the head andliterally be vampires and be
biting the pets out of theirneck.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
Even back then it was too damn slow for me.
I just unwrapped the shit andjust ate the whole handful.
Yeah, you'd get the littlepackages that were the refill
packages exactly.
I just eat the whole thing.
I ain't no way in the hell I'mwaiting for that little bitty
piece of candy.
That's so thinking about thistoo.

Speaker 1 (25:43):
Like pez were like, um, like gun lovers, um type of
candy, like it was, teaching ushow to reload, reload our
cartridges this is what you doexactly.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
You just take this Pez and you pop it out just like
you would a bullet son.
That's what it is, it's justlike a bullet.

Speaker 1 (26:03):
Yeah, man, it's crazy , pezes are crazy.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
But here's the one that killed me, though.
Right, it just shows you thetimes.
The kids, every kid, would walkaround with candy cigarettes,
oh candy cigarettes Luckystrikes man, you'd have the
lucky strike ones and you'd seeall these kids walking out of
the dime store.
They got candy cigaretteshanging out their mouth.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
Yeah, because the mentality of the population back
there, like smoking was cool.
Yeah, it was a cool thing to do.
There was no considerationabout the health impacts or
anything.
It was just like it's cool, I'msmoking that's, that's my boy
over there.
He's got his likely strikeshanging out of his mouth at four
so we had those candycigarettes that were like like

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the, like the fun dip thing, butlittle teeny straws, yeah, but
they also had, remember the ones, the candy cigarettes that were
like gums.
Yeah, so they had the wrapperon it.
It was just like a little likea string of gum.
Yeah, yeah, that was that wasthe gum wasn't good.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
Dude, none of the gum was not good I got a.

Speaker 1 (27:05):
I got a bag of like.
I went to the store the otherday and I saw a hole.
They had a.
They had a brand new case thatwas at the store of double
bubble, really, yeah.
And so I was like, man, that'sfresh double bubble, I'm gonna
get some.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
We got some upstairs right now and like it's like two
minute gum you still see, yeah,but even though it's two minute
gum, you see that in almostevery freaking baseball um
diamond yeah, you know, majorleague baseball double bubble
yeah, double bubble.

Speaker 1 (27:33):
You had the whole bags and stuff, bulk bags of
them still see it in it yeah,that's.
That's one thing that I love.
That's bubble gum, the oldbubble gum and stuff.
Remember when Bubble Yum firstcame out?
Yeah, everybody was losingtheir mind how soft it was.

Speaker 2 (27:47):
They were like whoa Like.

Speaker 1 (27:48):
Big League Chew.
Yeah Well, big League Chew wasa whole, that's a whole.
That was after that, right.
But I mean how soft the doublethe bubble yum was with, like,
everybody was like the mindblown because all we knew was
double bubble how about rockcandy on a rope?
Yeah, or stick right yeah, yeah, everyone on the rope, you'd

(28:08):
have it you'd have on rope.

Speaker 2 (28:09):
You just chew into it and it's just nothing but
straight sugar.
Yeah, kid, you wonder why inhell your kids are bouncing off
the walls?

Speaker 1 (28:15):
and that's when it seemed like the necklaces Right,
it was the same thing.
Oh, the candy necklaces.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
Remember the candy necklaces?
Yeah, you chew on those things,and then it would get stained
on your shirt and your neckwould be all sticky.

Speaker 1 (28:26):
You wonder why flies are going around you Trying to
get one off of it and you'retrying to manipulate it.
It's like one left in the back.
Man, those were good, those arecrazy.
Game changer was was pop rocks.
Pop rocks, man, those are thecoolest things.
When I first came out I mean,everybody was into pop rocks.
It was like you put thosethings in and they'd be like

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crackling and popping, likejumping out of your mouth and
stuff like we'd lean our headback to, like it was crazy.
And then then we Then we gotthe whole Pop Rocks with Diet
Coke.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
Okay, I got to tell you this was the bullshit candy.
Though what's that?
When they came out with theCharleston, the Charleston, the
Charleston, you didn't like theCharleston.

Speaker 1 (29:10):
No, it was nasty, seriously, big old piece of
nougat candy taffy covered inchocolate.
That wasn't taffy.
It was nougat candy taffycovered in chocolate, that
wasn't taffy.

Speaker 2 (29:17):
That was like it was nougat.

Speaker 1 (29:19):
Charleston wasn't nougat.
Yeah, it was like a long likewhite piece of like taffy nougat
combination covered inchocolate.
I don't know, it was nasty Dude, I used to like a Charlesman.
It figures there's no candy thatI would encounter that I did
not like.
I mean my mom.

(29:40):
When we were little kids.
She'd go off and she loves togamble.
She's always a big gambler andso they'd always.
We were in California so they'dtake off and go to Tahoe right,
so never been to Tahoe as a kid, they never took us there or
anything like that and um, butevery time she came back she
would come back with these giantjawbreakers.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
You know, I remember those.

Speaker 1 (30:03):
Yeah, like they look like about the size of a
baseball yeah giant jawbreaker.
Those things were like tonguekillers.
A dentist friend, dude, it wasa tongue killer.
We would lick that thing andlick a thing and then it turned
into like these, like spinylittle things on the jawbreaker
and then you keep licking it andthen it would cut your tongue
and we still be licking it, likeas kids.

(30:24):
I mean, it's like the thingsyou did.
I was like what are you?
Like it was bad, you didn'tthink about you, just you just
bit into.
Eventually we like get a hammerand like put it in a plastic
bag and smash it, just to try tolike eat it by pieces because
we were tired of getting ourtongues cut.
But we're still gonna eat thatson of a bitch do you remember
the sweet tart pops, those two.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
They used to have them on a stick sweet tart.
It's like a popsicle, but it'slike a sweet tart thing.
Oh, yeah, yeah yeah rememberthose things.
Those were actually.
I like those too.
Those are actually.
Those are actually pretty well,they had those in lipstick too
Remember.

Speaker 1 (30:57):
Oh yeah, they were like the lipstick containers.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
And then the Halloween.
You get all the remember, allthe Halloween.
Do we have the Dracula?
Lips Wax candy yeah all thatkind of stuff.
I mean it was loaded.
All those stores were loadedwith that stuff.

Speaker 1 (31:11):
Dude, I had to get some wax like those lips and
we'd be like playing with thembecause they had like the, they
had the teeth and they had thelips and all that stuff, and
then you'd like chew on it andbe like, oh, this is good and it
was like just nasty okay theone that I did not like, though
I can honestly say I did notlike black licorice oh see, I'm.
I like black licorice, but I'mvery, um snobby.

(31:35):
I'm very snobby when it comesto licorice anyways, because
here's the thing Now we'regetting out of the whole genre
of this old licorice stuff, oldcandy, but I'm a traditional red
licorice fan.
I cannot eat a Twizzler to savemy life.
I don't care what type ofTwizzler it is and what flavor

(31:55):
it is.
To me it's very waxy.
That's not licorice.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
Are you?

Speaker 1 (31:59):
talking about the old rope licorice.
Yeah, like American red vines?
Yeah, red vines is my is my jam, and it doesn't matter if it's
black or red or whatever.
Red is my preferred, but I meanthat twizzler stuff.
To me it's like, it's just likewaxy.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
Well, the roller rings used to have remember that
licorice that broke off andthen it was like a um, you
pulled it apart and some is likea, a flat, a flat thing.
It was, um, yeah, they had likefive little sections and you
break off a section of the thelicorice and you pull it apart.
You remember that one?
No, they always saw that at ourroller rink.
It was actually pretty good.

(32:38):
Oh, I think it was.
It is the same thing as, likethe old red vine.

Speaker 1 (32:41):
Yeah, but it was good .
Like on down that road too islike remember the taffy oh yeah,
the big, huge, long liketaffies and it was wild.

Speaker 2 (32:50):
All that old candy and stuff.

Speaker 1 (33:04):
I mean, we have a place here in Ohio that the
sweets and geeks, and it's likewe'll take you to far places.
And it doesn't matter whatcountry you're from too, because
, like, sweet and geeks hascandy from around the world too.

Speaker 2 (33:10):
You know you just may talk about this.
I want to go look in one ofyour damn drawers.
I know you got some kind ofshit, we.
I want to go look in one ofyour damn drawers.
I know you got some kind ofshit around here.

Speaker 1 (33:18):
Somewhere we got some candy, I got candy laying
around here somewhere, Iguarantee he's got some shit
around here somewhere.
All I'm doing is reachingacross my desk and here's a bag
of Jolly Ranchers.

Speaker 2 (33:26):
Oh my God, Jolly Ranchers.
I love those, I love JollyRanchers.
Yeah, we can't be.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
I don't even want you Jolly Rancher on them.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
Those things will lock in your teeth too.
I love a Jolly Rancher.
I think you actually got mestarted on those years ago.

Speaker 1 (33:40):
Jolly Ranchers are like one of my favorite.
I'm a hard candy person, Likeout of all the handy like.
I'll take a piece of hard candyover a piece of chocolate any
day.

Speaker 2 (33:48):
I'm positive you got me started on those and then you
cost me a filling.
Well, good for you.

Speaker 1 (33:53):
You owe me you needed to renew it anyway.
Shut up, they only last so long, man.
Dude, you just got to spendsome of that money.
You know, after taking themdamn things from you I did, yeah
, speaking about getting old anddennis and all that stuff.

(34:13):
Man, I was thinking the otherday, um, you know all this
experience with my in-laws andmy father-in-law passing away
lately and all this stuff, andit got me thinking like I was
flying with this gal and she'sin the same position as me.
You know we're we're dinks.
You know dual income, no kids,you know, like we have right now
life is great, right, but atthe end of life, right now, like

(34:36):
getting closer to the end oflife, it is like it is a scary
thought of like what type ofcare and how are we going to
deal with this and manage this,all these different things and
later in life.
And I know it's a serious, moreserious conversation than candy
.
But I was just like, wow, youknow this is a uh, it just gets

(34:58):
you thinking and it and itscares the shit out of you.
You have kids, yeah, so youhave kind of like a built-in
insurance plan.

Speaker 2 (35:04):
That doesn't mean they're going to take care of
you.
Yeah, probably not.
You for sure, exactly Like you.
I mean seriously.
I mean you can't you okay,every, every situation is
different, but I understandwhere you're going with this,
but you know, know this, you'renot assured that those kids are
going to take care of you either, right?

Speaker 1 (35:23):
Well, you're just hoping that somewhere along the
way there's going to be anempathetic kind kid, one of the
ones that you brought up that'sgoing to be like you know, okay,
pops.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
I'll help you out.
I'll come over there and bringyou a sandwich every once in a
while.

Speaker 1 (35:40):
Right, I know you like peanut butter, buddy, we'll
get you some peanut butter.

Speaker 2 (35:45):
But you know something, seriously, I know
exactly what you're talkingabout, because when my mom had
to go into assisted living andmy mom passed away from, uh,
basically UTI, right, andbecause what happens is they go
there and they don't, they don'twatch people, they don't take
care of them.

Speaker 1 (36:03):
Yeah, you don't get taken care of.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
No, they don't.
It's really scary.
I mean, in all seriousness isvery scary because these people
do not take care of the elderlypeople at all.
And, uh, you know my, mybrother and my sister.
They did incredible jobs withmy mom for years because my mom
lived right down the street frommy brother and then Dave was
always there and then Yvetteunbelievable, I mean, they're

(36:28):
like angels to help my mom allthe way through that time.

Speaker 1 (36:33):
Here's my point Like she was so blessed to have those
kids that stepped up and youknow, and that's pretty much the
majority, but like us, for, uh,carol and I, we're gonna be
like I'm, I'm hoping that, likeI'm gonna have some nieces and
nephews that step up and say,hey, you know they can watch out
for us and stuff like that.
But, um, you know, there's noguarantee to all that stuff and

(36:54):
it's scary.
And and here's, here's one ofmy.
I know this is going to soundcrazy, but I do not want to get
old and stink.

Speaker 2 (37:06):
I was going to tell you Dude.

Speaker 1 (37:08):
I do not want to be the guy running around like
stinking so bad Old people stink.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
You know, I was just going to tell you don't you
worry, sean, because I'm'm gonnacome get you.
I'm gonna wheel your assoutside, make sure you go see
the sun, and then my mind willbe gone and I'll forget.
And I left you out there andit'll be raining exactly.

Speaker 1 (37:27):
You're only a few years behind me, some bitch.
Come on, are you kidding me?
He's like I'm gonna wheel youout, like he's like like he's in
, he's in the 30s or somethinglike that.
This guy's like just a coupleyears behind me, he's gonna be
right there with me.
Just remember, I'll be the onewheeling you out, dude here.
Here's what the whole thinglike.
If I'm blessed that I got a guythat I play golf with, like

(37:48):
literally yesterday we played agolf, we were playing, it was
wet here, we had rain and stuffand all that stuff.
But there's a cat here in myneighborhood and my neighborhood
is like almost like allretirement already Right, mainly
retirement people, um, butthere's a dude that's 92 years
old and he plays golf with meevery day.
He's in my group.
Like he's out there, he's doinghis thing.

(38:09):
Boom.
I mean guy was an athlete hiswhole entire life.
He's.
He's like he's still relativelyhealthy.
He's had his you know, normalbody's getting old.
He's got some skin cancerissues and stuff that he's been
getting, you know, doing themows and all that stuff.
That that's a crazy procedure.
But you know, like he's still.
He's still going out theregolfing and all that stuff and

(38:31):
that's when I'm like man, healthand the way you are, you know,
like you live your life and tryto keep yourself healthy, and
stuff is so important for thatlater in life stage, you know.

Speaker 2 (38:43):
Well, you know the way I am, but that's exactly
what I was saying is that themost important thing that we
have is our health.
That's it.
You know that.
I mean, you know any anyone,anyone knows that.
But yet we take a lot of people, take it for granted and and
you know from what they eat,they what they do and, and they
drink, they smoke, they do abunch of different things that
are bad for them and theycontinue to do them, even when

(39:05):
you know that they're bad, thatyou just continue.
I could understand some things,but then, then you know, you
gotta, you gotta everything inmoderation, right, you can't not
not do things like even candyor whatever it is.
You gotta, you gotta.

Speaker 1 (39:17):
Everything's gotta be in moderation yeah, everybody's
, everything's in moderation andand you know to go to to end
this conversation this elderlystuff is that like you gotta
plan for it too.
Right, like this is it takesplanning and all that stuff.
And so that's what my wife andI are going to have to do, like
kind of like set us up.
Not only do you have to worryabout like okay, you work all

(39:38):
your life and you save and youmake enough money to survive
when you retire to the to theend of your life, but at the
same time, we also have toequate into this like huge
factor of like self-care of us.
You know that we, what are wegoing to do at the end of our
life?
Because we don't have insuranceplans, a family that we can
absolutely be saying, oh, we'regoing to take care of you, type

(40:00):
of thing.
We may be blessed that waybecause we have lots of nieces
and nephews that we love and allthat stuff and cherish.
But I mean those are peoplethat are like down the road,
like you don't want to put thatburden on them, right, but, but
you know please, please, god,somebody wash me and don't let
me stink no, that's what I wasgoing to tell you, don't worry
about it.

Speaker 2 (40:19):
if, if, if me and you ended up in the same place,
then what we'll do is I justpictured me and you wheeling at
me, wheeling down with you nextto you, and then grabbing the
hose and spraying you down.
What are you doing to Sean?
Yeah, sean, he stinks.

Speaker 1 (40:36):
Yeah, it would be like it's not a hose, it's a
fire hose that he'd be using.

Speaker 2 (40:40):
Yeah.
He'd be pushing me down thething with the fire hose.
I made one mistake.
I thought it was the gardenhose.
It was a little big but bigdeal.

Speaker 1 (40:52):
He just went down the staircase Speaking about health
and all that stuff.
Man, you know they just finallydecided, you know, to firmly
get rid of and ban food coloringin the United States.
About freaking time, like Imean, how long this is one of
those cycles Like in ourlifetime, like smoking and all

(41:14):
these bad things that werehappening in the world, like it
was cool and faddish and allthis stuff.
And you know the United Stateswas hey, well, let's enhance the
color of it and make it lookmore appetizing because, you
know, bright, red or whateveryou know it's.
Finally, you know, reality andgood senses are going into play,
where the food companies andstuff aren't still killing us

(41:37):
with all these chemicals andstuff that are in our food and
they finally are banning thisstuff.
I mean, they've known aboutthis since 1980.

Speaker 2 (41:44):
They've officially came out with like research
saying this is bad, and now it'staken to 2027 where it's going
to be officially like they'regoing to have to remove this
stuff well, if you, if youreally want to see this directly
, go to any walmart, right, goto any walmart and you watch how
obese people are and justloading up their damn carts with

(42:07):
all this shit that has thisproducts in there, right?
I mean, I'm talking about tonsof this, right, and you wonder
how that person got that big now, and I'm going to talk about
how big they are.
Careless, I mean, you do, you,but you're talking about health.
When you just sit there andsaid about that, you can't, all
that fat is around your heart,all that fat around your organs,

(42:28):
you can't breathe.
Your lungs you can't breathe,you can't function, okay, and
you have all these things thatare killing you internally.
And then, finally, it's takenhow many years for them to
finally put a stop to this.

Speaker 1 (42:43):
Here's the thing I get your aspect of where you're
going with all the personaldecisions.
No, this is the product.

Speaker 2 (42:50):
This was in the product.
It's not the personal decision.
This is what's in the food it'sloaded inside.
That's what I'm talking about.
If you had imagine how much ofthis dye is inside that cart.
That's what I'm talking about.
I mean, when you look at, thisis not about personal decision.
This is about how much of theseproducts are inside that cart

(43:13):
for that one family well, here'smy point to the thing.

Speaker 1 (43:17):
What I was trying to get at is this is that, like,
this is the economic thing, likethe our government right now is
driving a food system that isso bad on the lower end of the
food chain that we are loadingall these people and creating
health issues and it's a wholeentire like ball of shit.

(43:39):
So, like you got to it's it'snot always by like choices of
the people, like they can't evenhelp themselves because our
system, that's here, that's inplace, that the food that they
can't afford and are enticed andlured to are these cheaper
foods that have all this crap init.
And so that's my whole that was, that was my point to this

(44:00):
thing.
Is that, like, yes, we can allthink about, like, okay, we know
this is bad and we don't wantto do this and all this stuff,
but sometimes there's a lot ofpeople in this world that we
can't even afford it.
Right, like they can, theycan't afford it.
They can only afford, you know,to feed their family on a
certain level.
So, like we as the upper levelof society, it should be

(44:22):
concerned about everybody, notjust themselves.
Like, like we had the ability.

Speaker 2 (44:27):
Right, but that's that's what I'm saying.
Even with this dye, that's fine.
That's exactly what I wastalking about, though, even with
this dye, that's exactly what Iwas talking about, though, even
with this dye, this red color,all these things that cause
cancer, yeah, okay, it's in allthose cheap-ass products.
You can just take it out andstill have cheap-ass products.

Speaker 1 (44:43):
Yeah, and here's another thing You're just making
them look better, that's allyou did.
Well, here's a crazy thingbecause we can only see what was
our paradigm we're like.
We only know what we knowbecause this is where we are,

(45:04):
but when you step outside of theUnited States and we get the
privilege of seeing this,different things.
I was talking to some friendsabout this Dorito.
Okay, here in the United Statesis loaded with all these
different dyes and extraproducts and all this stuff.
But if you, if we go over toMexico which we always like you
know us people always likeconsider Mexico like a inferior
place, right, like that's kindof like our attitude, like we're

(45:24):
Americans, we're so much betterthan you.
Inferior place.
But guess what?
In Mexico a Dorito is allorganic.
They have no processes in there.
They can still make the damnDorito over there organic, but
here in the United Statesthey're making it bad as shit
for us.

Speaker 2 (45:41):
Have you ever seen the video where they set the
Dorito on fire?

Speaker 1 (45:44):
Yeah, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, and it burns, it burns,
yeah, it burns like crazy.
So it's like.
My point is that is that like,yeah, there's like we got a
screwed up food system and it'sit's about damn time that they
finally are getting themselvesto the point like and and it's
really cool if you really payattention to this thing, like if

(46:04):
you've seen this wholeevolution of this change
happening.
Like 10 years ago, how muchorganic stuff do you see in your
supermarket?
Like there was, there was none,yeah, yeah, and today we have
organic sections, you know, like.
So it's about supply and demand, the pressures of people.
Our attitudes are, you know,saying no to this stuff.

(46:28):
That finally gets thingschanged and I'm glad that change
is happening.
But I just wanted to bring thatthing up.
Next topic man, I'm going totell you right now this is
something that just happened tome and I just want to hear your
feelings about this whole thingand it's loaning money to
families and friends.
How do you feel about that?

Speaker 2 (46:50):
Well, first of all, you don't need no damn money, so
I don't have to worry about.

Speaker 1 (46:56):
I don't have to worry , I just sit there.

Speaker 2 (46:58):
I'm just telling you.
Well, you know, I ain't got alot of friends.

Speaker 1 (47:02):
I mean, I'm a loner guys, I think everybody out
there that knows you just likelaugh.
They're awesome.

Speaker 2 (47:07):
No, I mean listen, you know, you know Right, you
don't have a lot of closefriends.

Speaker 1 (47:12):
No, you have a lot of acquaintances, no, yeah.

Speaker 2 (47:16):
So as far as that goes, yeah, I'd be good with
that.
Even though you don't need it,I'll borrow from you.
But as far as family, yeah, Iwould give my family money, I
wouldn't even hesitate.
But I know my family because assoon as they got it back, they
would give it back.
But it would I loan anybodyelse money?

(47:36):
Hell, no, no, if you call me uplike they, they sit there and
somebody said that they got acall and they said, oh, your,
your, your cousin is in jail.
They need money.
Well, my cousin's gonna stayhis ass in jail, he ain't
getting out, go ahead.

Speaker 1 (47:53):
But I'm just no, I ain't gonna give him money, no,
so so so I mean, what, whatsparks this whole thing, can
thing is that, like I have afamily member that asked me for
money, okay, and and here's theum, the the thing about it it's
like my family is just likeanybody else's family and I'm
going to tell you right now,just like you, you're like if

(48:15):
you had a close family memberthat called you and said, hey,
can you give me a thousand bucks?
You know, whatever, whatever itis Okay, you're going to give
it to them, right, you're goingto give it to them because
they're family Like my, mybrother or sister in a heartbeat
.

Speaker 2 (48:30):
Yeah, cause I my my brother's sister.

Speaker 1 (48:33):
Yeah, heartbeat, yeah , because I know it's coming
back.
So this is my brother, one ofmy brothers, okay?
So he asked me for money, allright.
So now, two years later, I'llsee now that's bullshit.
Okay, two years later, that'sbullshit.
There's no effort whatsoeverthat like return the money that
I give him or anything at that.
But you know, I mean I like Italked to my wife about this.
You know I don't use somethingin talked to my wife about this.
You know I don't use somethingin the back of your head.

(48:55):
You're like you still rememberI gave them money and they
didn't even attempt to do it andthat goes to the moral
character of that person and youknow their, their ethics of you
, know how to handle thesituation, but at the same time
it's like you just write it offright, it's like it's gone, it's
family right.

Speaker 2 (49:15):
Well, I think that you do write it off, but that
would kind of that'd bother me,because the way that I see my
brothers and my sister, I meanit would bother me.
But and honestly, fortunately Iknow with that if it was, it
was my situation.
I know we're talking aboutyours, but if it was my
situation, they would havethrown in an extra hundred

(49:38):
because you know, hey, listen, Iappreciate what you did.
Thanks, you know what I mean.
You helped me out.
And that's exactly what youshould be.
Your situation was a little.

Speaker 1 (49:47):
My thing goes.
Is that so?
Like here I am, I offer the,you know, I give this money and
everything, and this is twoyears, whatever.
But then that same person comesback and they ask you for not
the same sum they just asked youfor like five times the sum
they just asked before, and askyou for more money.

Speaker 2 (50:10):
Sean, you just made me think of uncle Eddie.
Uncle Eddie, yeah.

Speaker 1 (50:16):
Clark Griswold.

Speaker 2 (50:18):
Oh yeah, I'd be like are you shitting me?
There's no way in hell.
There's no way.
There's no way.
I mean all seriousness, there'sno freaking way in hell.

Speaker 1 (50:28):
I'd be like Nope you freaking way in hell.
I'd be like, nope, you ain'tgetting shit.
You haven't paid me back themoney that you, you borrowed
from me before.
There's no way in hell, so.
But so here, here's whathappened.
So so my wife and I am like youknow.
Uh, he asked me for this moneyand they have this situation
happening and and they putthemselves into a bad situation,

(50:48):
everything and uh, so they needthis money.
And I'm talking to my wife, andmy wife is the most generous
person in the world, and it'swhen it comes to family.
Her attitude about money andfamily is that family has
supported her in the past andhelp get her to the place that
she's been.
She is now today, and now shehas the means and ability to do

(51:11):
this, and she's like, I'm justgoing to give it to him, you
know there would have been a bigno, there'd have been big
difference.

Speaker 2 (51:18):
Go, I'm going to let you finish, but there've been
big difference.
If you pay back your originalamount of money, go ahead, and
that's my point.

Speaker 1 (51:24):
My point is so we come from two different types of
worlds.
Like my wife is very well offand they had money their whole
life and all that stuff, and shejust like she just feels like
this is, uh, something that Iowe back type of thing.
That's her feeling, okay, andI'm not going to discount her
feeling, all this stuff.
But what my feeling was likeexactly, I'm reacting like

(51:45):
you're reacting, like I'm like,oh, you know, your past behavior
dictates.
What happened is going to getready to happen again.
So I'm going to give you thismoney, and if I give you this
money, I know that you're noteven going to attempt to give it
back to me, right?
So you know?
So I'm.
So now I'm like there's me andmy wife are like having this big

(52:06):
discussion about this wholething, about, like, how we're
going to handle this stuff.
So I was like you know, itbecame a big dilemma, like I had
to think about this for a fewdays, cause it you know it
weighs on you.
You, you love your family, youwant to help them.
At the same time, you, you wantto make assurances, that you
know.
And to me, honestly, you knowI'm blessed to be in a position

(52:29):
where I have money.
Right, both of us.
Right, we're blessed, we'veworked hard, we got money and
all this stuff and I give away alot of free money to a lot of
people in the world.
I do all kinds of different.
You know philanthropy and allthat stuff, but you know, when
you feel like you're being takenadvantage of, that's the point

(52:50):
that really irks you.
You know, that's the point thatreally irks you.
You know, that's the thingthat's in your back of your head
.
That is like you know, this isfamily and they're treating me,
disrespecting me, right, right,and that's my whole, my, my, my
point about it.
But how I the in-story to thisis this is that I decided to
like, think about this, and Iwent down a road that I said you

(53:11):
know what I'm going to treatthis as a life lesson, because
the one thing in my family thatdid not happen was and I don't
know how your family was, but wedid not grow up with a lot of
financial education and I thinka lot of that happens in the
United States today, likethere's not a lot of financial

(53:32):
education happening out therewith the lower class of
Americans that are out here,that are that are the you know
lower income Okay, it's notclass lower income of Americans
and they don't have theknowledge and ability to how to
manage money.
And that's what my brother's,you know, in that situation

(53:52):
right now and unfortunately he'skind of like in midlife right
now and still hadn't learnedthis lesson.
So I'm like you know what?
I'm going to turn this into alife lesson.
So now I treated this wholething like this is a bank loan.
And so I drew up papers anddrew up a whole contract and
made it into a bank loan.

(54:12):
And the first loan was justlike hey, you're my brother,
here's some money.
This next one I was like, oh no, no, no, we need to put some
like guidelines and proceduresin place, just like and treat
this like a normal banktransaction.
And that's exactly what I didand I wrote this whole thing up
and I said here's contract.
And at the end of the contractI was you know, I've even put in

(54:35):
there, you know like.
If this is not fulfilled, legalaction may be taken, you know,
so that they can weigh theseriousness of this and weigh
the responsibilities of how you,how you pay back a loan and and
I'm teaching my brother how to,like, build credit did he take
it?
he took it.

Speaker 2 (54:54):
I gave it to him okay , but the thing is, is that
here's the question right?
If he reneges on it, you takinghim to court?

Speaker 1 (55:00):
I don't know we will cross that bridge.

Speaker 2 (55:02):
You see what I'm saying, though I understand
there's.

Speaker 1 (55:04):
There's the thing but here's the thing I have that
option, right, I know, I meanyou always have the option, you
know, but nobody wants to get inconflict with your family like
that.
But here's the thing I'm like Ichose to make this a lesson.
Right, this is how you managemoney.
Let me help you understand howyou build credit, how you manage
your bills, how, instead of yougoing down to the candy store

(55:29):
and buying candy with the moneyinstead of paying your bills
Right, you know, these are thethings that we bought.
We already know this stuff,like most people, most people do
, and I tried to equate this.
I gave him an analogy of, likeI said listen, when I was, when
I was coming up and everything,and I was trying to like bill,
credit and build all bill, everytime I tried to spend money on

(55:51):
something, when I startseriously understanding money
was like hey, can I afford to goand buy that ice cream cone?

Speaker 2 (56:00):
And you couldn't.
But that's, that's beside thepoint.
I get it.
I mean, I get that, but howmuch you got in your wallet?
How much do I have in my wallet, Cause I want it.

Speaker 1 (56:10):
Oh you, you think I'm a sucker, sucker, Right, yeah,
no, I'm not a sucker.
No, it's not a sucker.

Speaker 2 (56:16):
You know something.
Listen, I'm making light of it.
I know exactly what you'redoing, I know how you are and I
get that it wouldn't have beenme.
But, like I said, there's noway.
But I'm fortunate enough thatmy family that wouldn't have
been the case with them.

Speaker 1 (56:33):
But I do understand what you're talking about, but I
mean, I didn't think that wasgoing to be the case too.
But say, one of your brothersdid this Right Borrow money.
I don't know they give it backto you.
You're not going to be withyour brother and be like when
are you going to give me thismoney?

Speaker 2 (56:55):
You're going to be him to court either.
So I mean, so I I understandwhat you're talking about, and
but I'm still gonna.
I can take him to court and Istill want the money out of your
wallet.
So, um, let's go around theglobe, man let's go around the
globe.

Speaker 1 (57:02):
So, uh, man, uh this, uh talking about taking
somebody advantage of.
Did you hear about the guy thatwas?
Uh, that got 120 free flights?

Speaker 2 (57:12):
how the hell that happened.
I mean as a flight attendant,seriously, how did that happen?
I mean this guy, this wasincredible it was the modern day
.

Speaker 1 (57:19):
Catch me, if you can.
This dude is like he, literallyit.
There wasn't a security issuebecause he was actually going
through tsa, going through allthe print paces, you know, doing
his id, going through thescreenings, all this stuff, but
he was actually scanning theprocess through these airlines.

Speaker 2 (57:35):
I can understand how that happened.
I mean because, okay, let'stake a look at this.
Okay, even with TSA, you'relooking at your badge or
whatever you know you go through, and if you were able to
duplicate a badge, okay.
And if you, if you could getonto the other airlines,
whatever it is.
But here's the thing you didn'thave to do that this is not.

Speaker 1 (57:56):
This is not that thing he did not do, duplicated
in a badge or falsifying any ofthat, that type of stuff.
The only thing he did was hewas using our non-rev system and
manipulating that with theairline.
And so a non-rev thinknon-employee Right?
You know, you don't have to.
All you have to have isdriver's license.

Speaker 2 (58:17):
But how did he get?
Okay, but he still had to havesomeone's right Like an employee
.

Speaker 1 (58:25):
He was using false numbers and stuff through it and
saying that, like this is alldone through the computers, like
he's just doing giving falsenumbers.
He had I don't know, I 35 orsomething like that, but was
different with his name.
Yeah, he would like use.
Like you don't have to buythrough your name, it could be
flying on somebody else's, butsomehow he had manipulated the
system.

(58:45):
We don't want to get toodetailed no, exactly, yeah, but
it's like he manipulated thesystem to be able to get on the
plane and get free tickets as anon-rev and all these tickets
started coming up and it'scoming through the systems and
the airlines started catching it, and that's how, when he got to
so many, it was like they werelike wait a minute, who is this?
We got some type of patterngoing on here, right, and then

(59:09):
the guy gets snagged.
But he's, he's in some serioustrouble right now.
I mean, he's got like all kindsof charges, I think 250 000 in
fines, like it's.

Speaker 2 (59:21):
It's crazy they'll be able to find him one more time
to whatever prison he's going tohe's gonna get one more free.

Speaker 1 (59:30):
one more free ticket to whatever prison his ass is
going to hey but he can be likethat dude and catch me, if he
can, where the U S governmentcomes in and hires him.
That's true, yeah Right, like,like, how did you do this?
Teach us how you did this and,uh, we're going to help prevent.
You know, use this for as aprevention.
I, you know use this for as aprevention.

(59:50):
I think he's going to prison,but yeah, he's probably going to
prison, but yeah, anyways, anduh, yeah, man.
And then then the other thingthat's happening is like all
these airlines now are cancelingflights to the middle East
because of everything, all theshit going on right now.

Speaker 2 (01:00:06):
Well, there's good reason, right?
Yeah, possible war.

Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
Yeah, I mean, do you got to pay attention to what's
happening in the world right now, like if you are anywhere in
the world listening to thisright now?
Pay attention to everythinghappening outside of your little
bubble, of whatever countryyou're in and check on your
flights yeah, check on yourflights.
It doesn't matter what like.
And this isn't just us aircarriers.
Like everybody is cancelingflights to the Middle East.

Speaker 2 (01:00:38):
Nobody wants to be shot down as a defenseless
civilian carrier, and we don'tdo that at Jackson.
Hole, you don't think?
No, we ain't.
Nobody shoot me down at JacksonHole.
All right, All right man, maybeyou, because you're
international base, you changebase.
But, you know something, not me.
I might be doing this show solo, that's right.
All right, everybody, man, itwas a great time.

(01:01:00):
Go ahead, sean.
Lead us out with the quote.

Speaker 1 (01:01:02):
All right, man.
Yeah, you got ahead of yourselfthere.
Our quote today is this italways seems impossible until
it's done.
That's Nelson, nelson Mandelasaid that and uh, and you need
to.
You need to believe that, like,anything in the world is
possible and you can do anythingyou want to do, um, and just

(01:01:23):
like, sky's the limit, man, sodon't limit yourself.
Nope, all right now it's timeto go, you.

Speaker 2 (01:01:32):
You finally gave permission.
All right, guys, you guys, youguys have a great week, had a
lot of fun, and we will see younext week at Cabin Pressure.
Lots of fun, we'll see you nextweek.

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