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As we kick off 2025 on "Cabin Pressure," we find ourselves celebrating our podcast’s growth while confronting sobering news from New Orleans. What drives someone to turn a place of joy into one of tragedy? Join us as we reflect on the potential for change and impactful decisions in the new year, while grappling with the heartbreaking event on Bourbon Street. Our thoughts are with the victims and their families as we seek to understand the senseless violence that has marred the start of a new year.
Navigating the holiday travel chaos, we shine a light on the challenges faced by airline crews during system failures and weather disruptions. Picture being stranded in Denver or Houston without accommodations; it’s the not-so-glamorous reality behind the aviation curtain. We discuss the nuances of airline operations, the critical importance of crew rest, and the curious superstition that mishaps often come in threes. From glitch-ridden airports to flight attendants’ tales of seating battles with passengers, it's a whirlwind of high-flying adventures and the lows that come with it.
As we wrap up, there's room for laughter and exploration. We journey through humorous layover escapades and tackle the controversial ending of "Yellowstone," pondering the show's complex narrative choices. With a detour to Boston’s historical landmarks, we celebrate its rich tapestry of culture and history, from the iconic Cheers bar to the hidden gems of the Black History Trail. Whether you're an aviation enthusiast, a TV series aficionado, or a history buff, this episode promises a mix of insight, intrigue, and a touch of humor to usher in the new year.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
headboards banging on the wall all night.
In the room next door, airlinepranks.
What the hell just happened?
Finally, we get to talk aboutyellowstone all this.
Next on cabin pressure withsean and g Sean and.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
G.
Welcome everyone.
This is Cabin Pressure 2024 inthe books 2025, starting up.
Happy New Year everyone.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Happy New Year, sean.
Happy New Year everybody, man.
Welcome to 2025.
We're ready to get going.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
You ready?
Yeah, absolutely, man.
It was a really good year.
I'm looking forward to thisyear.
I think it's going to be a lotof fun.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Oh, heck.
Yeah, man, I was thinking thereis a lot to reflect on from
last year and all the good stuffthat's happened to us with this
podcast, and how we've grownand we continue to grow.
It's amazing, man.
I can't believe that we're evenhere.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
You know, what I like about the best, though, with
the new year is the change,because after you reflect right,
you look back and then it's thechanges you get to make.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Right, I mean, yeah, we got to change, we got to keep
on changing.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
I know we have the new year's resolutions, but, um,
you know, I always, I alwaystell people that even my, my own
children is that you can screwup in life, but all you got to
do is you're a decision awayfrom a big change.
Yep.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
And one decision, yeah, change your life
drastically.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Yeah, beginning of the year is the best time to
make that.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Yeah, speaking about changes, man, I mean today,
talking about changing.
There's a lot of people's livesgot changed this morning with
some terrible news right fromNew Orleans Guy drives into the
freaking crowd, killing peopleintentionally.
I mean come on.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
I know.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
That's not the way to start the new year, but it's a.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Why do people do that ?
You know it's a celebration andthen someone comes in and they
take lives.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Yeah, I mean we were just talking about Bourbon
Street too, Like one of our lastepisodes.
We were just talking about howamazing it is and everything,
and it is still amazing and oneof the best places to go and
have a great time, but you havethese idiots in the world that,
for whatever reason, just wantto be spoiler.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
But didn't this person come out and start
shooting people too?
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
I mean, I'm I'm super interested to see where this
goes and what.
Why the you know?
Why would this even happen?
Speaker 2 (02:58):
But um, unfortunately that's uh this morning's start
to um know this, this wonderfulnew year yeah, well, after
christmas it was a uh, it was anightmare for a lot of
passengers too.
What's that?
Didn't you uh see that?
Uh, denver was a mess man?
I mean, they had like 500 uhdelays on on the saturday after
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christmas oh man, aviation'shave have been in the news like
crazy.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
I mean it's always in the news for a holiday, right?
Everybody's concerned abouttheir travels and getting from
point A to point B and back andall that stuff, but it's been in
the news a lot.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Yeah, but this is what we talked about last time.
When it comes to computersystems and stuff like that, as
soon as one thing happens, itjust shuts everything down.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Yep Cascade effect right.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Yeah, and the Houston was a mess too.
Um, they, they had a mess downin Houston, and then Cancun.
There there is uh, there iscrews that were stuck down in
Cancun.
What, yeah, no hotels,absolutely a mess.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
First of all, being stuck in Cancun, I'm not too
angry.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
No, but you got to have a room.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Oh yeah, Right Now the crews didn't have a room.
I don't care where you are.
You can be in a freakingparadise, and if you don't have
a room to stay in, that's a yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
But you know, in our job though I know this also
sounds kind of bad, but in ourjob, though I know this also
sounds kind of bad, but in ourjob, even in the worst scenario,
you've got to try to make thebest out of it.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Yeah, you do have to make the best out of it For all
those people that aren't airlinepeople.
You know like airline crews.
They show up to a destinationand we're kind of like this is
all automated, like we justliterally walk to, we have a
schedule and a plan and a placeto go, the hotel to go to, and
we walk there and we literallysign into a piece of paper, they
hand us a key and we go to ourroom.
So it's all very automated andand and all set up.
(04:51):
And a lot of people are alwayslike how does that work?
But that's how it works untilthe shit hits a fan until you
get there, and there they say wedon't have any rooms for you.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Yeah, yeah, then the shit hits a fan, because no
transportation, no hotels, norooms.
Yeah, I mean it can all go awryand nobody's answering the
phone either.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Yeah.
So if you're thinking aboutcanceled flights and stuff,
that's cruise, like our bighang-up about air travel
mess-ups when we don't have aplace to go so we can get away
from the public and be able torest and regroup, that's our.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
that's our big inks A lot of times.
Pastors don't understand when.
When that happens, the crewsare stuck too, oh yeah, and they
can't even get out a lot oftimes because there's so many
people going to hotels.
Yeah, you know how busy it isdown a baggage claim when
everything cancels shit.
They there ain't no way yourass is getting on a uh, a hotel
van oh no even if you have aroom, you still are not getting
(05:46):
on a van.
You're gonna be there for atleast an hour.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Yeah and and and to that effect.
I mean there's all these likerules and regulations that each
airline and, depending on whatyou know, type of aircraft you
fly, and all these differentrules that have we have to abide
by to.
You know, get, get our rest andall that stuff where I'm seeing
everybody's seeing like crewdelays, you know, because of
crew rest and all that stuff.
(06:09):
So all that stuff impacts theentire flow of the airline.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Well, because the pilot's legalities are different
from the flight attendant'sRight, so that really screws it
up sometimes too, and thecustomers don't.
They don't understand.
There's two differentlegalities.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Yeah well, there's more than two, there's lots two
different legalities.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Yeah, well, there's more than two.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
There's lots of different legalities.
There's different FARs for like, so the little commuters have a
different set of rules than thebig airlines and the pilots
from each group have a differentset of rules to the flight
attendants in each group, and sothere's multiple airlines.
And then there's you know we'rejust thinking within our box
right here right now, but I meanworldwide.
You know we're just thinkingwithin our box right here right
now, but I mean worldwide.
You also got the internationalcrews and stuff that are out
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there.
They got their own rules andtheir own regulations.
So there's lots of rules thathave to go on to this business.
But you got to think there isany time something happens, it
doesn't matter what type ofslowdown in our schedule that's
going to impact those rules.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
And the passengers just hear about crew legalities,
that's it, yeah.
And the passengers just hearabout crew legalities, that's it
yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
And as soon as they hear that, they know that the
shit's going to hit the fan forthem too.
I don't know about you, but Idon't want to be flying on a
tired crew.
They're in their 16th hour offlight, yeah, and you're flying
into some really shitty weatheryeah, and you've got shitty
weather yeah.
That's not the crew that I wantto be flying me.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Nope, hey, did you see the incidents that happened?
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Terrible man.
There's like compoundingincidents Two, three, four
incidences.
A lot of incidents happen inthe last, like 48, 72 hours.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Well, in our industry , this is one thing that does
happen.
When there is an incident withan airline, especially when
there's a loss of life, flightattendants usually take a deep
breath.
Oh yeah, because we realizethis usually happens in threes.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Oh yeah, man, there's , like, you know, that's the
worst part of our job.
Like every day we get up and weput on our uniform and we head
out to work and you know, thelast thing, you know the is that
worst case scenario to happen.
We don't want, you know, nobodywants that to happen, but I
mean, that's always in the backof our head.
But every time one of theseincidents happen, you know, that
(08:21):
brings it to our forethoughtand uh, you know, you kind of
like retune yourself, yeah, Imean, I mean I don't know about
you, but every time I see one ofthese it's like, uh, man, you
know, I want to, I want to do my32nd review.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Yeah, but three of them in 24 hours, that's that's,
that's unheard of.
I mean three of them in 24hours, but the first one and,
like I said, I don't like totalk about it a lot, but I'm
sorry, but it made no sense.
So, sean, at the end of thatrunway they had a concrete wall
that was crazy Dude.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
That was that incident over in Korea.
I mean, I don't know why.
It's going to be veryinteresting to see why they
decided, or even if they haveany information that comes back
to why they decided, to run landat this runway.
But I mean, if you don't haveany hydraulics and you don't
have, you know you're breakingspeed and all these things.
I'm not a pilot, so, but I ampretty technical about, like,
(09:15):
what goes into aviation andstuff and you too, like our
experience, we know if you don'thave all these things that we
can like slow down plane, youneed a lot of room.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Well, what was at the other end of the runway?
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Yeah, I mean, we need a lot of room.
You don't want to pick anairport that was like this,
where at the end of the runwaythere was a brick wall.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Well, if there's a brick wall at one end, is it
open at the other end?
Why didn't they just land theother direction?
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Yeah, other direction .
Yeah, other direction.
I mean there's all these thatlike or go to another airport.
I mean there's just like wow, Imean then the amazing part.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
The amazing part was the two people that survived.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
This crash was uh, the two crew members that were
in the tail of the aircraftCause.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
If you see, yeah, if, if I mean if you, if you want
to go see this and without umworried about you, know flying,
know flying um, you'll see thatthis is unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
When this aircraft hits this, the tail separates,
oh yeah, and that's the only waythey survived yeah, there's the
really like eerie part aboutthat incident too was like they
had video, it was like of theentire thing.
It was like almost like as ifit was planned like here's this
4k you know high definitionvideo of this plane.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
You don't rarely get uh incidents where it's like you
know the best uh recording ofwhat's what's happening now you
might have that down in florida,um, because there's a lot of
people down in lauderdale thatare at the ends of the runway.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Yeah, but it's normally like a phone or
something like this, likeprofessional, like this was like
news covering, or somethinglike here comes an incident,
we're kind of tracking it andthis happened right in front of
them, type of thing.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Aren't you kind of surprised that airlines don't I
mean the airports don't havecameras that record landings?
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Yeah, you would think in this day and age like that
would be like standardtechnology equipment in the
airports.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
but it was truly amazing, though, that two crew
members actually survived.
That, I mean it really was.
I mean, when you seen that itwas horrific, crazy, and then,
uh, then you had another onethat, uh, there was smoke in the
cabin that had, that was reallybad too yeah, I mean the other
incidents were.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
I mean this that one we we just talked about was
catastrophic.
I mean a lot of people losttheir lives there.
But the other ones they wereall like incidents that were
actually positive outcomes.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Everybody got out of the planes and stuff like that I
think somebody died from theone that was the smoke in the
cabin.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Yeah, I mean one person did.
Yeah, I'm just like compared tothat other one in Korea.
It was horrific yeah, butanyways, man, enough about this
accident and stuff and downstuff.
I mean, let's get funny, wellall right, one little quick
thing there.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Here's a funny thing they had uh, you know, you have
a passenger at the overwing exit.
They just open the freakingexit and then take their bags
and exit.
What?
Yeah, they just, they just left, decided to leave the plane a
little early.
What are you?
I mean, are you kidding me?
What are you thinking?
Speaker 1 (12:17):
dude, first of all, I'm always like I don't know
about you.
Like every time I'm like on on,you know, I'm working or
whatever, and I'm looking at,I'm suspicious of the people by
the windows.
Yeah, because you, you and Iknow how easy it is to open that
window in certain, in certainsituations, whatever.
But it's like I mean just toget some asshole to just like
(12:37):
pop that window and freaking andthis guy goes out and sits on
the wing with his luggage betterbe careful.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
There's a big engine out there though, too yeah, I
mean it's like I don't get it.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Nope, yeah, well that video, that video that actually
the person left with their bagtoo, and they were just sitting
on the wing yeah unbelievableand, depending on when this
happens, like how this is goingto impact everybody after and
before, is going to be uh,pretty, pretty wild, because I
mean, if you open those windows,windows too early and we're all
(13:11):
fueled up and those wings areflexed and all this stuff, I
mean that window's not gettingclosed up anytime soon.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Nope, hey, how do you feel about those passengers
that sneak up into the economyplus section of the aircraft?
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Dude, I hate that stuff.
I mean, first of all, on ourpersonal, where we, the airline
we work for, you know, there'sdifferent classes of seats,
right?
So I mean you, you each section, just like if you're at a
freaking hotel or you're on afreaking cruise or whatever,
(13:46):
each one costs different pricesand wherever you're going to set
down in or accommodate, rightso I mean there's really no
discussion here, like it's veryclear, each one of these
sections are, you know, costdifferent prices.
But when you get these peoplethat come on the plane and they
think that they're going totreat this like the bus, yeah,
but when they get pissed off atyou because you end up moving
(14:09):
them out of that seat, yeah, I'mnot when they get pissed off.
It doesn't even affect mewhatsoever.
I'm like stupid is as stupiddoes.
Get out of the seat.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
I like the conversation though that occurs.
There's this guy.
I went back there and he he wasin a exit row and I told him I
said, is this your seat?
And he said, no, I'm in theback.
And I'm like, well, then yougot to go to the back and he
goes.
Wait a minute, he goesseriously.
Look at my legs.
I'm 6'6" and I was like, well,were your legs shorter when you
(14:39):
bought the ticket?
Speaker 1 (14:40):
First of all, I'm 6'2" and I hate sitting in the
economy and it's not because ofthe seat.
It not because of the seat,it's because I don't fit, I mean
as a six two.
I'm just like right at thatcusp right there where it's like
just beyond, you know,comfortableness.
I mean my wife's like five,five, six, five, four or
whatever, but she's short andshe she fits in there, just
(15:03):
perfect.
But I mean for these guys thatyou come walking down, you see
these guys are like seven foot,like they're like bent up like a
pretzel in these row or they'reon the aisle and they're like
sticking their legs all the waydown the aisle and stuff, like
that's where they're going to bethe whole flight, which we know
they're not.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Yeah, and a discount center seat.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Right, I mean, it's just uh, I don't get it Like
spend some money, man.
If you're that big freaking,make yourself comfortable, get
into a seat or purchase a seatthat you're going to fit into.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
But sometimes online when you're doing this like 75
bucks right, 60, 75 bucks forthe upgrade.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Yeah, I mean, there's like always an upgrade to like
move into a better seat, thingslike that.
Like do this, like makeyourself comfortable, but when
you come on board and you'relike now, you're like you throw
that on us.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Yeah, yeah, but then the price goes up to 130 right
it's like 130 140 as soon as youget on the plane, but you can
do it online for like 70.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Yeah it's more expensive for us to do it than
you them to do it before theyget there.
But it's like why would you putyourself even in that situation
?
And then they come in, like Iwas saying they throw it on us,
like, oh you know it's empty,why can't I what you're going to
do this to me?
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Right, it happens every single day.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
I'm not doing shit to you, dude, you did it to
yourself.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Every single day.
I don't care if there's a seatthat's available.
There's that one person.
And they know too, because theywait until the end of the
boarding process.
Yeah, and they don't know that.
We actually look at them and weknow, we already know, we
already know what seats areavailable and what are not
available.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
There's a combination of things happening here.
One is you have these peoplethat are one, they're just
scammers and they know thesystem.
They're trying to scam it.
And then they have the otherones that are like they're
coming from these lower costcarriers that they, like you
know you can sit anywhere typeof thing, get on the plane, just
do that.
I mean, southwest has alreadychanged that right, that whole
(16:56):
policy oh yeah they get assignedseats now because it's it just
doesn't work, like it's the bussystem doesn't work.
So, um, you got those people.
But the ones that are likegolden to me are these ones that
come on board and they're inthe back and you have this like
empty section and they stop youand they're being polite and
they're like hey, um, do youneed any volunteers to sit in
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the exit row?
Yeah, no right, like volunteers, like you're like okay, um, you
haven't flown since the 50s.
You know like this is, we don'ttake volunteers, nor do we need
any.
But those to me are likeprecious because it's like you
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know, that's just, that's atotal inexperience, right?
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Well, what's funny, though, is when you look back
through the cabin, you'll seelike four or five rows of the
Economy Plus section that areempty, and then they're all
packed in like sardines, andnobody wants to pay any extra
money for the leg room, theyjust want you to give it to free
.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Yeah, that's, that's all, that's all ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Hey, listen.
Um had a question for you.
When you do a load position alot, yeah.
All right.
So um was on this crew as aload position doing a layover.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
In load position so people understand what a load
position, like the airlines,like each aircraft has a minimum
crew and so the airlines kindof like schedule the crew
members in these core groups soyou'll have these core flight
attendants.
So like, if, if a plane likeseven, three, seven, needs three
flight attendants, we need fouractually to fly it, we need
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four to actually fly it.
Those, uh, the fourth one iswhat we call a load Um, some
people, you know chasers,there's all kinds of names for
those, that person, but that'swhat G is referring to.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
All right, so low position.
Basically I'm by myself.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Yeah, you're by yourself.
You are a solo flight attendant.
It is one of the worstpositions to be in as a new
flight attendant because you'reby yourself, and when we say
you're by yourself, you're byyourself.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
But we're old, so it really don't matter.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
For us it doesn't matter because we know what the
hell we're doing, but for a newflight attendant if you imagine
this young flight attendantgoing out there and they get
this position and they're goingto the hotels by themselves,
they're going to transportationby themselves.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
It's kind of scary, it's kind of funny.
You just said young flightattendant because this is kind
of the story that I'm going toget into.
So I was up there and I wasgoing up to my room and I just
got back from the gym and I waswalking into my room, had my
workout wear on and you know howthe flight attendants are
coming up into the hotel in thehallway.
So they're following me and I'msaying hello to them as we go
(19:48):
in.
I'm in the room next to thisother young flight attendant.
She was going into the room,said hello and just basically
went in the room, right?
So you know, having the layoverand as the night's going on,
all of a sudden you starthearing some other sounds going
on in the other room.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Oh, the next door, next room, was like being loud.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Oh, it was like a play-by-play.
Sean a play-by-play.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Yeah, what type of sounds were you?
Speaker 2 (20:17):
hearing, whoever it was, that headboard was just
banging against the wall.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Oh, man, that's the worst man it well, I mean it is.
It's good and bad, like it'slike, depending on your
situation when we we wereyounger, I mean.
You're like fantasizing, like,wow man, somebody's having some
fun next door.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
You kind of laugh about it because I mean we've
all been there, but here it is,this bed banging against my wall
and I'm listening to thissaying okay, well, you know,
have to have to have to hearthis because these walls are
like paper, yeah.
But then I'm getting the playby play.
I'm sitting there going.
Man, there's a lot of activitygoing on in this thing.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
This is all good, as long as it doesn't go on for too
long.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Okay, so then it stops.
But it did, it was actually, itwas actually went through the
night, but uh, that's not reallythe funny part of it.
So finally get to bed and I godownstairs.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
And when we go downstairs, a lot of times we'll
meet our crew especially whenwe got an early check-in, yeah,
for the first time, like we'retalking about.
Back to that load chaser deal.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
That's that person that we're like meeting, maybe
for the first time, for that day, yeah, we have the rest of the
crew down there, so on the van,a lot of times we have the same
van going to the airport, sure.
So I'm down there and I meetthe other crew and as I'm
sitting there, this one younggirl comes down and she starts
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talking and she's like, oh myGod, I'm exhausted, exhausted.
She's telling this other flightattendant, she goes, what's on,
she goes, I didn't sleep at alllast night, right, and I looked
at her and and it was the girlthat I had seen in the hallway
and I don't think she actuallyshe realized she didn't
recognize you uh-huh.
So we're getting on the van andand she's sitting there telling
(22:06):
this girl.
She's like, oh, she goes.
I was up all night and she goes.
I'm exhausted.
And and I'm sitting therethinking's like, oh, she goes, I
was up all night and she goes.
I'm exhausted.
And I'm sitting there thinking,yeah, so am I and she goes.
Why are you exhausted?
I said this girl next to me shewas going at it so much and
screaming and yelling and it wasliterally like a play by play
and I was like what room wereyou in?
And all of a sudden the van gotreal quiet and I was like man,
(22:30):
I know she didn't admit it.
No, no, no.
She was like, oh, I don't evenknow she goes.
I just wasn't feeling that good.
I was like, yeah, whoever wasnext to me was feeling really
good because, like I said, Iheard this all night long.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
That's awesome.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
But you know that does happen on our cruise.
I mean, it was pretty funny.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
You know, that does happen on our cruise.
I mean, it was pretty funny,dude.
It happens Not even on a cruise.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
I mean the hotels everybody's been in hotels where
we hear some of those audiosounds throughout the hotel.
It was funny because you knowwhen you're looking at this
person and you know it was themand I don't know if she knew it
was me or not.
But oh my god, it was so funnywhen, when she was on advance,
she's like, oh, she goes.
I didn't sleep at all and I waslike, well, no, you didn't.
I mean, your head was goingagainst that, that freaking
backboard or something.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
I mean it was crazy yeah, when you're a young flight
attendant and, as we werereflecting back years ago, sure,
those those nights and stuff,like those short nights and
stuff, we were all about it no,we just.
But now our old, now our oldasses are like can we get some
sleep, please, can you?
Can you get it done?
Speaker 2 (23:39):
we used to fly with skip.
Uh, he used to, uh, he, he wasa pile for us.
He, he loved to go out and weused to go out and listen to
these, um, these bands and hewould be like, hey, gary, go get
some girls, I'm going to payfor their drinks.
Skip was a heavyset guy, butman, he was funny.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
First of all that's an understatement Heavyset this
guy.
He was one of the biggestpilots I've ever seen.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Funny as hell, though he was the most jovial, funny
guy that you'd ever meet.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
But you'd look at him and you'd be like, and we were
flying like smaller aircraftback then.
But you were like literally inthe back of your head like how
is this motherfucker getting inthe cockpit?
How is he squeezing into thisthing?
Because he was that big.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Man, we were laying over there in Atlanta and I
remember we went to this I thinkit was a Renaissance up there
and they used to have thesebands that played there every
Saturday night.
They had this one girl bandthat was up there and Skip had
me go talk to these girls, bringthese girls over, and they were
talking to us and we had a goodtime at a party, you know, and
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Skip, next thing you know,invites them back to the hotel.
So you know he's over therebuying extra stuff, drinking,
having a good time.
But man, did we have a lot offun when we were young?
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Dude, I got a skip story for you.
This is kind of like this takesme way, way back, because right
now, as we're flying into thisstuff, everything's like
automated and electronic and wehave, like these electric our
manuals.
Turn to these.
Now we're like they're on aniphone and uh, so back in the
day, when we were, our manualswere actually real manuals, you
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know, like flip page manuals,you know I'm talking about.
Oh yeah, we had to do theselike revisions, weekly, monthly,
like we had to like updatethese manuals.
It was such a pain in the ass.
But back to skip.
We're flying with skip and we'rehaving a good time and we're on
this like like four-day tripand we're, you know, every,
every layover was a good time.
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We're going out, having drinkand party and having good
goofing off.
Anyhow was fo that we're flyingwith.
He gets into this thing wherewe're like pulling pranks on
each other and he pulled a prankon skip and where he was like
flying this.
Uh, you know we're flying alongand he had taken skip's manual.
You know, like, when theyopened up their manual, they had
the pilots back.
(26:01):
Then you said, carry thesegiant square bags they call them
brain bags and, uh, all theirmanuals were in there, so these
things were like heavy, too likethey're crazy, I mean 15, 20
pounds, I mean they're, they'refreaking heavy and uh.
So this dude decides to play ajoke on skip and he takes a
section of his manual you knowwhatever his uh manual is and he
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starts taking chunks of it andlike reorganizing it so like
when he was like flying, he likeflips open a section and it'd
be like what the hell you knowlike what, what's going on here?
But I mean and you're thinkinglike the safety of this whole
thing that the fo has the rightmanual, but he's like you know,
he's screwing around with yeah,just jacking with him.
Yeah, yeah, so I'm involved withthis.
(26:45):
But you know, weeks, months goby and you remember us back in
the day when we went to trainingOnce a year, flight attendants
had to go to recurrent trainingis what we call it and so we got
to get requalified and we gotto reopen the doors and all that
stuff.
It's like once a year training.
Well, back in the day we had a50-question test that we had to.
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When we walked through thetraining door, that was the
first thing you had to do, right?
I remember that, and it was anopen book, right?
Yep, so here I am, I walk intotraining and sit down and I'm
like I'm ready to go.
And guess what happens?
They jacked your manual up.
We have a timed test here.
This 50-question test is timed,but it's open book.
(27:28):
So I opened my manual and Iflipped to the section.
I'm thinking like I'm like dc9,boom.
And you know, here's a 747.
They jacked my shit up.
I was like in panic mode.
I'm running around like I'mlike trying, I'm like scrambling
my head how I only got 30minutes to finish this thing,
like I gotta do this off the topof my head, like I'm gonna have
(27:49):
to pass this off top of my head.
And uh, finally, I was like youknow, I I got to do this off
the top of my head, like I'mgoing to have to pass this off
top of my head.
And finally, I was like youknow, I like went to the one of
the restrictions.
I was like I have no time totalk about this right now, but I
need another manual.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Yeah, cause you.
You can only miss so many ofthose, and then fail.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
I need another manual .
Speaker 2 (28:11):
Cause some of the stuff you have to look up cause
you just don don't there's toomuch to remember.
But uh, yeah, that was my skipskip story but I got jacked.
I, I, I've got so many skipstories it's not even funny, but
that was that renaissance one.
It was hilarious.
There was a lot more to it, but, um, me and him, me and him had
a lot of fun back then.
He was a good guy.
Hey, let's lighten it up alittle bit.
Yeah, yellowstone yellowstone.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Okay, here we go, man .
This is spoiler alert.
Alert everyone.
Spoiler alert.
We're getting ready to talkabout Yellowstones.
We had a fan that actuallycontacted us and was like you
need to let us know.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
If you're like Sean and you don't watch the damn
show for a freaking month whenit's over with, then it's a
spoiler.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
Yeah, but it's not a spoiler anymore.
We have watched it.
We have both completedYellowstone, and let's talk
about it.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Well, I completed a lot, a lot earlier than you did.
All right.
So, Yellowstone, what did youthink of the ending?
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Man, you know what the whole thing about
Yellowstone is like.
You know, I mean both of uswe've said this before Kevin
Costner like really made thatshow.
So I mean to make a wholeseason about Kevin Cosner and
you know they, they killed himin the beginning and, um, you
(29:22):
know the the whole um, how theywrapped up and how they were
going to try to save Yellowstone, and then you know what they're
, what they eventually did withthe Indians and stuff.
I mean, yeah, good solution.
Um, the show's over.
You know, like I mean there'sjust like no future to the show.
So, like like it was an end, itsucked yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
I hated that they killed him in the first episode.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
Yeah, I mean.
Well, Kevin didn't want to doit.
You know they had that,whatever dispute or whatever
they had.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
All you seen was a body.
You knew it wasn't even him.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Yeah, I mean the whole thing was like you know
the whole story.
They had to rewrite the wholestory because he wasn't
participating, whatever.
But it could have been so muchbetter.
I mean so much better, I meanthe show, the whole season.
It was good it had thisYellowstone action.
It was depressing on like youkind of knew things were
(30:24):
wrapping up.
I mean like the auction part ofit.
Like the auction part, I waslike I was a little getting a
little depressed on the wholething.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Right, oh, yeah, yeah .
Speaker 1 (30:32):
Like you, you like you, knew this is the end of it.
It was like the whole show waswrapping up to the end and you
didn't know how it was, how itwas going to.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
I mean, they did kind of leave you in suspense a
little bit because you reallydidn't know.
I mean you knew that they wereselling everything or getting
sold off.
But you know, you got a littlebit of an insight of Casey's
background as a SEAL.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
Yeah, yeah, I mean like that whole storyline, like
they touched upon it early,early in the first years and
stuff like that, but they neverreally brought it up first years
and stuff like that, but theynever really brought it up.
And then you know, when hestarted making his contacts and
stuff like that, which, uh,shout out to all my military
buddies, that I feel like I haveto, even not being a CEO like
(31:16):
me, reaching out to a militarybuddy, I feel like I can do a
little bit of the same thing,like if I needed, needed help,
those guys will come running.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Yeah, it's lifetime.
Yeah, I always thought that.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
It's a brotherhood that you're going to always
reach out to and they're goingto have your back and stuff.
But obviously I don't have anyconnections like a SEAL level.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
No, that'd be next level.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Yeah, that's like next level, but it's like you
always know, your militarybuddies have your back.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
I thought that was really cool because if you know
anything about the SEALs, thatis truly them.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Oh yeah, yeah.
I mean it's like we've had acouple of pilots that are SEALs
you know, ex-seals and stuffthat we've worked with and
what's really interesting to meabout Navy SEALs is that there's
no stereotype to them.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
No.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
Like you would think that they're going to be like
this muscular, you know, likeyou know, totally fit guy.
I mean, I've seen guys that arelike five, four, you know it's
skinny, it's all mental, it'sall mental.
The size and your ability.
I mean, obviously they're goingto carry their weight and all
that stuff.
But, and all that stuff, butwhat your typical, what you
(32:24):
think or your stereotypes thatyou're putting on to a Navy SEAL
?
That's normally not it.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
I just liked how his character I mean he clicked from
basically this cowboy and allof a sudden you've seen this
literally this Navy SEAL warriorcome out of him.
I thought that was pretty cool.
Yeah, but as far as theIndianian reservation, um, I was
kind of surprised that it wentthere.
I mean, I was glad that it didbecause they weren't going to
(32:52):
develop anything on it, so thatwas kind of cool well, I had
already figured out the solution.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
Like I was figuring out the solution, like I knew I
was like sell this somebody, youknow, turn it around, you know
give it and they can give itback to you or something like
that.
You know, like there's so manylike legal ways to like get
around, like giving a piece ofproperty and giving it back to
you and then get out of thosetaxes that they were under and
all that stuff.
So I had already kind of likehad that in the back of my mind.
I just didn't put it into theindian reservation deal, you
(33:18):
know like you were looking intoit deeper than me.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
I was sitting there going this sucks, this sucks man
.
This is going to be over soon.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
Well, I was trying to figure out how they're going to
get out from under those taxes.
I'm in all that land and stuffFirst of all.
Could you even in your mindimagine that amount of land?
Speaker 2 (33:37):
No, I said that a thousand times what it looks
like.
Well, when he stood on hisporch and they said how much do
you can?
Speaker 1 (33:43):
see as far as you can see and beyond yeah, I mean,
that's just mine and you'relooking at a mountain yeah, it
is, it is mind-blowing, there'speople out there that own that
much property from theirfamilies.
It's incredible right, but youhave to maintain and you have to
pay those taxes on that.
Property taxes kill you.
Yeah, I had a buddy had a pieceof land up in Pennsylvania Like
(34:05):
he had been gifted and he waslike it was the worst gift in
the year because all I did everyyear was pay taxes on the land.
He was like it's nice to have apiece of land, but it's like I
wasn't doing anything with it, Iwasn't living on it, it wasn't
you know, I wasn't eventemporarily using it once a year
or anything.
It was just.
It was like a burden given tome, like land is expensive, no
(34:26):
matter if you own it or not.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
But you know, it was kind of cool how they they
separated Rip and Beth and theythey went on with their family,
and then how, how Casey went onwith his family, and then Jamie,
it went to the train station.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
And deserved it.
Oh yeah, yeah, and deserved it.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
Oh yeah, yeah.
I mean, you knew that was goingto happen.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
Yeah, I mean that was just inevitable.
I mean I'm surprised theydidn't kill off Jamie a long
time ago, but he was a greatweasel, right.
I mean his part in the wholething.
They got that actor.
Uh did a phenomenal job withhim good ending for him, though
yeah, yeah, yellowstone.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
Anyways, I mean to sum it up like yellowstone was
uh, it sucks, yeah, it suckedbecause, you know, last night
for the new year, I'm watchinguh, they had a, uh, a whole
marathon of Yellowstone andthere I was watching it the
whole time, enjoying it,thinking this sucks, this is the
end of it.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Yeah, man, I was like yeah, it was over, it was done,
hey, but hey, land man, landman dude.
You've got to be when we talkabout land, man, you're going to
be like laughing your ass offoff.
We're going to have to recordsome of the one-liners that
Billy Bob Thornton says.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
He's funny.
Anyway he is funny.
I mean just that stupid look onhis face too.
I mean Billy Bob Thornton, he'sfunny, he's a good actor too.
He's played some really goodroles too, yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Bad Santa.
I'm looking forward to you tosee that.
Yeah, this is like Landman isBad Santa, but just a loyaler
More Bad Santa shit.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
All right, man, let's go to the destination.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
Destination man.
Destination this week is goingto be Boston.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Boston.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
Man, you know, boston is like one of those
destinations that it doesn'tmatter what time of year you go
there.
Boston there's something to doand Boston's, you know, just
like we were talking about inlike Cleveland last week there
is so much to do in Boston.
You can't just put your fingerand be like this is the one
thing that you got to do inBoston.
There's just too much to do.
But we're going to justhighlight some of the amazing
(36:42):
things that I've done in thepast on layovers and we're going
to just highlight some of theamazing things that I've done in
the past on layovers.
And these are like a lot ofthese things are free.
Like I'm one of those things.
Like I get into the city, Ijust do free shit.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
Two things come to mind with me, with Boston,
what's that?
Chowder, chowder.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
We love chowder man.
I mean any legal seafood.
Yeah, like hit legal seafood inthe airport.
Highly recommend checking outlegal seafood.
Grab your bowl of chowder.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
Big difference than what we used to pay for chowder
Two bucks.
We used to pay $2 for a big-assbowl years ago.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
This is just aging us .
Big bowl years ago, Twofreaking dollars.
We would get two bucks and we'dget this gigantic thing of
chowder Like all the crews wouldrun off and grab a bowl of
chowder.
Now they wouldn't give you aspoon.
Now it's like 15 bucks.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
But the other thing, before you get started about
Boston Norm, norm, norm, cheers,cheers.
Yeah, go to Cheers, right.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
Cheers to me was kind of an anticlimactic thing.
Like I love Cheers.
You know us growing up, it's anera thing.
Like our audience out here mostof the people have like all
watched Cheers, right.
But when you go actually andsee the bar and see how small it
is and everything and it's justlike, okay, this is the bar.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
You still got to go.
It's iconic, yeah, it's iconic.
Okay, this is the bar you stillgotta go.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
It's iconic, yeah, it's iconic, you gotta.
You gotta go.
It's fun.
It's a fun place to go.
You gotta always check out thecheers bar, but in that whole
area, like in that area of like,where cheers is, is a huge
beautiful park right in front ofit.
Um, like in the summertime youcan be out there.
You can, like they got likeflamingo paddle boats and stuff
like that you can go out in thelake there and paddle around, uh
, from that area, all aroundthat area.
(38:29):
The uh freedom trail, um inBoston, uh, kind of winds all
through Boston.
That is like one of my.
I would tell you, if you're ona layover or staying in Boston,
you just want to do somethingfree.
The freedom trail goes all overBoston I'm talking everywhere
all over, up and down themountains and hills there, and
(38:50):
it's all free.
So you can literally walk theFreedom Trail and get this
history of how we became free,the whole history behind Boston
and Paul Revere and all thedifferent things that happened
with the Boston Tea Party andeverything that happened in
Boston.
It's really, really cool.
(39:12):
But in addition to that, Iwould highly recommend that
people don't miss this there'salso a black history trail there
that is the UndergroundRailroad.
So it shows you all thesedifferent places where they had
these people and these familiesthat had hidden slaves and
(39:32):
ex-slaves in their basements andstuff for this Underground
Railroad.
And you're thinking Boston,like this, is way north.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
When we were kids, we had to learn about that in
history.
That's the difference.
They don't teach them aboutthat now.
But when we were in high school, we had to learn about that in
history.
That's the difference.
They don't teach them aboutthat now, but when we were in
high school we had to learnabout that.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
Yeah, I mean so there's two trails Like the big
one that you're going to go toBoston.
Everybody's talking aboutFreedom Trail, but there is
another trail there called theBlack History Trail and I highly
recommend checking it out.
A little shorter trail, butcool places to stop.
There's all kinds of museumsand stuff involved with all
(40:10):
these this whole entire trailtoo.
The other thing that you do inboston here is, uh, you know, I
mean it's all the sites, youknow fenway park, you can, if
you want to go see him, uh,historical, I got a picture of
jackson standing in front offenway park.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
My son is.
It was big baseball player,yeah and uh, and I got a picture
of him, uh, standing in frontof uh Fenway park when he was
when he's a young boy.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
Yeah, yeah, I mean just the um history and the
iconic uh memories and stuffthat come from Fenway park.
I mean that's just to be, to bethere.
You don't have even go in, justlike you're saying like, uh, it
is, it is cool.
The other thing is really cool.
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The other thing that's reallycool in Boston, too, is that not
only is it, you know, theshopping there is like amazing.
It's all spread out.
It's like there's shopseverywhere.
But one of my favorite places togo is actually like there's
like a food trail there, likethere's so much food in Boston.
I mean, we were talking aboutchowder, but there's a Quincy
Market Seafood, everything.
If you want to go on a foodadventure, get yourself to
Quincy Market.
It's an indoor market that,from end to end, is nothing but
vendors selling every type ofseafood and pastries and
sandwiches.
Man, it's freaking gourmet todelight.
You're going to, you're goingto.
You're not going to findsomething you're going to want
to eat there.
But the last thing you do likein the food, the number one
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thing that when you go to Bostonthat you have to get, is you've
got to experience a lobsterroll.
I mean lobster rolls arefreaking amazing.
You can get them all over toBoston.
There's lots of differentplaces to get them and you ask
anybody, they'll be like, oh,this place is the best and this
place is the best.
But believe me, they're allgood and they're not cheap
(41:52):
anymore.
I mean, we used to be able togo and, like I was we were just
talking about this before on theshow we were like, hey, you
know, we used to be able to flyinto Boston and we would
literally get coolers of livelobsters and lobsters were like
I'm talking like $5 a pound, ohyeah.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
It was unbelievable.
Oh yeah, you could take thewhole box home with you.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
Yeah, we would all like the crew would have like
freaking coolers of lobsters andwe'd like, oh, we're going to
Boston, we got to get somelobsters and bring back home,
you know, because it was just socheap to buy them there.
But man has that changed.
You don't see boxes anymore.
No, you don't see.
You don't see people, you know,transporting lobsters anymore.
The lobsters have freaking gone, skyrocket high and all this
stuff and uh interesting thingabout uh, lobsters and a lot of
(42:38):
I don't know if a lot of peopleknow this, but like lobsters was
like, like you know, terrible,like bad food.
They used to feed theirprisoners in Boston lobster,
that was the food they would get, lobster three times a day.
Speaker 2 (42:52):
Not that case now.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
Yeah, that was a long , long time ago.
Speaker 2 (42:56):
I don't think you're going to see a lobster roll in
the penitentiary.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
I don't think the penitentiary today is having
lobster rolls, but yeah, theyused to feed the prisoners
lobster because it was likeconsidered, like you know,
varmint.
You know, here's like feedingrats to the prisoners.
But yeah, that's it.
But Boston, man, there's justso much to do.
Man, get to Boston, and itdoesn't matter what time of year
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.
I mean, I will tell you all thewarmer times of of years spring
, summer um, they are phenomenal.
Get out just to be a walk inboston and the whole experience
and the, the feeling there.
But, uh, anytime's great.
But the other thing about toboston too don't have to not
mention this is that they havean amazing theater district like
you can go see all kinds ofcool shows and stuff.
Like blue man group has beenthere for years and years I mean
, I mean decades.
It seems like a really coolshows and stuff that you could
(43:51):
see there as well.
So Boston's got everything tooffer.
Check it out.
Speaker 2 (43:54):
Very cool little place.
All right, boston folks, anddon't forget to go to cheers.
I had thrown that.
I like cheers.
Speaker 1 (44:04):
Right, that was funny All right.
Speaker 2 (44:06):
Funny, all right, listen, uh.
So the quote for the beginningof this year the best time for
new beginnings is now absolutely.
Speaker 1 (44:16):
Here's the start, start of the year, so we started
2025, folks, uh again.
Happy new year everyone let'sget it on we are gonna have a
great year this year.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
You guys have a great year and we will see you next
time on Cabin Pressure, nexttime.
See ya, see ya.
Speaker 1 (44:35):
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Thanks for listening to CabinPressure with Sean and G.
Please take a moment to leaveus a message.
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headboards banging on the wall all night.
In the room next door, airlinepranks.
What the hell just happened?
Finally, we get to talk aboutyellowstone all this.
Next on cabin pressure withsean and g Sean and.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
G.
Welcome everyone.
This is Cabin Pressure 2024 inthe books 2025, starting up.
Happy New Year everyone.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Happy New Year, sean.
Happy New Year everybody, man.
Welcome to 2025.
We're ready to get going.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
You ready?
Yeah, absolutely, man.
It was a really good year.
I'm looking forward to thisyear.
I think it's going to be a lotof fun.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Oh, heck.
Yeah, man, I was thinking thereis a lot to reflect on from
last year and all the good stuffthat's happened to us with this
podcast, and how we've grownand we continue to grow.
It's amazing, man.
I can't believe that we're evenhere.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
You know, what I like about the best, though, with
the new year is the change,because after you reflect right,
you look back and then it's thechanges you get to make.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Right, I mean, yeah, we got to change, we got to keep
on changing.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
I know we have the new year's resolutions, but, um,
you know, I always, I alwaystell people that even my, my own
children is that you can screwup in life, but all you got to
do is you're a decision awayfrom a big change.
Yep.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
And one decision, yeah, change your life
drastically.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Yeah, beginning of the year is the best time to
make that.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Yeah, speaking about changes, man, I mean today,
talking about changing.
There's a lot of people's livesgot changed this morning with
some terrible news right fromNew Orleans Guy drives into the
freaking crowd, killing peopleintentionally.
I mean come on.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
I know.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
That's not the way to start the new year, but it's a.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Why do people do that ?
You know it's a celebration andthen someone comes in and they
take lives.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Yeah, I mean we were just talking about Bourbon
Street too, Like one of our lastepisodes.
We were just talking about howamazing it is and everything,
and it is still amazing and oneof the best places to go and
have a great time, but you havethese idiots in the world that,
for whatever reason, just wantto be spoiler.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
But didn't this person come out and start
shooting people too?
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
I mean, I'm I'm super interested to see where this
goes and what.
Why the you know?
Why would this even happen?
Speaker 2 (02:58):
But um, unfortunately that's uh this morning's start
to um know this, this wonderfulnew year yeah, well, after
christmas it was a uh, it was anightmare for a lot of
passengers too.
What's that?
Didn't you uh see that?
Uh, denver was a mess man?
I mean, they had like 500 uhdelays on on the saturday after
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christmas oh man, aviation'shave have been in the news like
crazy.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
I mean it's always in the news for a holiday, right?
Everybody's concerned abouttheir travels and getting from
point A to point B and back andall that stuff, but it's been in
the news a lot.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Yeah, but this is what we talked about last time.
When it comes to computersystems and stuff like that, as
soon as one thing happens, itjust shuts everything down.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Yep Cascade effect right.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Yeah, and the Houston was a mess too.
Um, they, they had a mess downin Houston, and then Cancun.
There there is uh, there iscrews that were stuck down in
Cancun.
What, yeah, no hotels,absolutely a mess.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
First of all, being stuck in Cancun, I'm not too
angry.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
No, but you got to have a room.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Oh yeah, Right Now the crews didn't have a room.
I don't care where you are.
You can be in a freakingparadise, and if you don't have
a room to stay in, that's a yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
But you know, in our job though I know this also
sounds kind of bad, but in ourjob, though I know this also
sounds kind of bad, but in ourjob, even in the worst scenario,
you've got to try to make thebest out of it.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Yeah, you do have to make the best out of it For all
those people that aren't airlinepeople.
You know like airline crews.
They show up to a destinationand we're kind of like this is
all automated, like we justliterally walk to, we have a
schedule and a plan and a placeto go, the hotel to go to, and
we walk there and we literallysign into a piece of paper, they
hand us a key and we go to ourroom.
So it's all very automated andand and all set up.
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And a lot of people are alwayslike how does that work?
But that's how it works untilthe shit hits a fan until you
get there, and there they say wedon't have any rooms for you.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Yeah, yeah, then the shit hits a fan, because no
transportation, no hotels, norooms.
Yeah, I mean it can all go awryand nobody's answering the
phone either.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Yeah.
So if you're thinking aboutcanceled flights and stuff,
that's cruise, like our bighang-up about air travel
mess-ups when we don't have aplace to go so we can get away
from the public and be able torest and regroup, that's our.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
that's our big inks A lot of times.
Pastors don't understand when.
When that happens, the crewsare stuck too, oh yeah, and they
can't even get out a lot oftimes because there's so many
people going to hotels.
Yeah, you know how busy it isdown a baggage claim when
everything cancels shit.
They there ain't no way yourass is getting on a uh, a hotel
van oh no even if you have aroom, you still are not getting
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on a van.
You're gonna be there for atleast an hour.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Yeah and and and to that effect.
I mean there's all these likerules and regulations that each
airline and, depending on whatyou know, type of aircraft you
fly, and all these differentrules that have we have to abide
by to.
You know, get, get our rest andall that stuff where I'm seeing
everybody's seeing like crewdelays, you know, because of
crew rest and all that stuff.
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So all that stuff impacts theentire flow of the airline.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Well, because the pilot's legalities are different
from the flight attendant'sRight, so that really screws it
up sometimes too, and thecustomers don't.
They don't understand.
There's two differentlegalities.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Yeah well, there's more than two, there's lots two
different legalities.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Yeah, well, there's more than two.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
There's lots of different legalities.
There's different FARs for like, so the little commuters have a
different set of rules than thebig airlines and the pilots
from each group have a differentset of rules to the flight
attendants in each group, and sothere's multiple airlines.
And then there's you know we'rejust thinking within our box
right here right now, but I meanworldwide.
You know we're just thinkingwithin our box right here right
now, but I mean worldwide.
You also got the internationalcrews and stuff that are out
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there.
They got their own rules andtheir own regulations.
So there's lots of rules thathave to go on to this business.
But you got to think there isany time something happens, it
doesn't matter what type ofslowdown in our schedule that's
going to impact those rules.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
And the passengers just hear about crew legalities,
that's it, yeah.
And the passengers just hearabout crew legalities, that's it
yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
And as soon as they hear that, they know that the
shit's going to hit the fan forthem too.
I don't know about you, but Idon't want to be flying on a
tired crew.
They're in their 16th hour offlight, yeah, and you're flying
into some really shitty weatheryeah, and you've got shitty
weather yeah.
That's not the crew that I wantto be flying me.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Nope, hey, did you see the incidents that happened?
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Terrible man.
There's like compoundingincidents Two, three, four
incidences.
A lot of incidents happen inthe last, like 48, 72 hours.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Well, in our industry , this is one thing that does
happen.
When there is an incident withan airline, especially when
there's a loss of life, flightattendants usually take a deep
breath.
Oh yeah, because we realizethis usually happens in threes.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Oh yeah, man, there's , like, you know, that's the
worst part of our job.
Like every day we get up and weput on our uniform and we head
out to work and you know, thelast thing, you know the is that
worst case scenario to happen.
We don't want, you know, nobodywants that to happen, but I
mean, that's always in the backof our head.
But every time one of theseincidents happen, you know, that
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brings it to our forethoughtand uh, you know, you kind of
like retune yourself, yeah, Imean, I mean I don't know about
you, but every time I see one ofthese it's like, uh, man, you
know, I want to, I want to do my32nd review.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Yeah, but three of them in 24 hours, that's that's,
that's unheard of.
I mean three of them in 24hours, but the first one and,
like I said, I don't like totalk about it a lot, but I'm
sorry, but it made no sense.
So, sean, at the end of thatrunway they had a concrete wall
that was crazy Dude.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
That was that incident over in Korea.
I mean, I don't know why.
It's going to be veryinteresting to see why they
decided, or even if they haveany information that comes back
to why they decided, to run landat this runway.
But I mean, if you don't haveany hydraulics and you don't
have, you know you're breakingspeed and all these things.
I'm not a pilot, so, but I ampretty technical about, like,
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what goes into aviation andstuff and you too, like our
experience, we know if you don'thave all these things that we
can like slow down plane, youneed a lot of room.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Well, what was at the other end of the runway?
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Yeah, I mean, we need a lot of room.
You don't want to pick anairport that was like this,
where at the end of the runwaythere was a brick wall.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Well, if there's a brick wall at one end, is it
open at the other end?
Why didn't they just land theother direction?
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Yeah, other direction .
Yeah, other direction.
I mean there's all these thatlike or go to another airport.
I mean there's just like wow, Imean then the amazing part.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
The amazing part was the two people that survived.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
This crash was uh, the two crew members that were
in the tail of the aircraftCause.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
If you see, yeah, if, if I mean if you, if you want
to go see this and without umworried about you, know flying,
know flying um, you'll see thatthis is unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
When this aircraft hits this, the tail separates,
oh yeah, and that's the only waythey survived yeah, there's the
really like eerie part aboutthat incident too was like they
had video, it was like of theentire thing.
It was like almost like as ifit was planned like here's this
4k you know high definitionvideo of this plane.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
You don't rarely get uh incidents where it's like you
know the best uh recording ofwhat's what's happening now you
might have that down in florida,um, because there's a lot of
people down in lauderdale thatare at the ends of the runway.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Yeah, but it's normally like a phone or
something like this, likeprofessional, like this was like
news covering, or somethinglike here comes an incident,
we're kind of tracking it andthis happened right in front of
them, type of thing.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Aren't you kind of surprised that airlines don't I
mean the airports don't havecameras that record landings?
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Yeah, you would think in this day and age like that
would be like standardtechnology equipment in the
airports.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
but it was truly amazing, though, that two crew
members actually survived.
That, I mean it really was.
I mean, when you seen that itwas horrific, crazy, and then,
uh, then you had another onethat, uh, there was smoke in the
cabin that had, that was reallybad too yeah, I mean the other
incidents were.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
I mean this that one we we just talked about was
catastrophic.
I mean a lot of people losttheir lives there.
But the other ones they wereall like incidents that were
actually positive outcomes.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Everybody got out of the planes and stuff like that I
think somebody died from theone that was the smoke in the
cabin.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Yeah, I mean one person did.
Yeah, I'm just like compared tothat other one in Korea.
It was horrific yeah, butanyways, man, enough about this
accident and stuff and downstuff.
I mean, let's get funny, wellall right, one little quick
thing there.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Here's a funny thing they had uh, you know, you have
a passenger at the overwing exit.
They just open the freakingexit and then take their bags
and exit.
What?
Yeah, they just, they just left, decided to leave the plane a
little early.
What are you?
I mean, are you kidding me?
What are you thinking?
Speaker 1 (12:17):
dude, first of all, I'm always like I don't know
about you.
Like every time I'm like on on,you know, I'm working or
whatever, and I'm looking at,I'm suspicious of the people by
the windows.
Yeah, because you, you and Iknow how easy it is to open that
window in certain, in certainsituations, whatever.
But it's like I mean just toget some asshole to just like
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pop that window and freaking andthis guy goes out and sits on
the wing with his luggage betterbe careful.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
There's a big engine out there though, too yeah, I
mean it's like I don't get it.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Nope, yeah, well that video, that video that actually
the person left with their bagtoo, and they were just sitting
on the wing yeah unbelievableand, depending on when this
happens, like how this is goingto impact everybody after and
before, is going to be uh,pretty, pretty wild, because I
mean, if you open those windows,windows too early and we're all
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fueled up and those wings areflexed and all this stuff, I
mean that window's not gettingclosed up anytime soon.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Nope, hey, how do you feel about those passengers
that sneak up into the economyplus section of the aircraft?
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Dude, I hate that stuff.
I mean, first of all, on ourpersonal, where we, the airline
we work for, you know, there'sdifferent classes of seats,
right?
So I mean you, you each section, just like if you're at a
freaking hotel or you're on afreaking cruise or whatever,
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each one costs different pricesand wherever you're going to set
down in or accommodate, rightso I mean there's really no
discussion here, like it's veryclear, each one of these
sections are, you know, costdifferent prices.
But when you get these peoplethat come on the plane and they
think that they're going totreat this like the bus, yeah,
but when they get pissed off atyou because you end up moving
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them out of that seat, yeah, I'mnot when they get pissed off.
It doesn't even affect mewhatsoever.
I'm like stupid is as stupiddoes.
Get out of the seat.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
I like the conversation though that occurs.
There's this guy.
I went back there and he he wasin a exit row and I told him I
said, is this your seat?
And he said, no, I'm in theback.
And I'm like, well, then yougot to go to the back and he
goes.
Wait a minute, he goesseriously.
Look at my legs.
I'm 6'6" and I was like, well,were your legs shorter when you
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bought the ticket?
Speaker 1 (14:40):
First of all, I'm 6'2" and I hate sitting in the
economy and it's not because ofthe seat.
It not because of the seat,it's because I don't fit, I mean
as a six two.
I'm just like right at thatcusp right there where it's like
just beyond, you know,comfortableness.
I mean my wife's like five,five, six, five, four or
whatever, but she's short andshe she fits in there, just
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perfect.
But I mean for these guys thatyou come walking down, you see
these guys are like seven foot,like they're like bent up like a
pretzel in these row or they'reon the aisle and they're like
sticking their legs all the waydown the aisle and stuff, like
that's where they're going to bethe whole flight, which we know
they're not.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Yeah, and a discount center seat.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Right, I mean, it's just uh, I don't get it Like
spend some money, man.
If you're that big freaking,make yourself comfortable, get
into a seat or purchase a seatthat you're going to fit into.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
But sometimes online when you're doing this like 75
bucks right, 60, 75 bucks forthe upgrade.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Yeah, I mean, there's like always an upgrade to like
move into a better seat, thingslike that.
Like do this, like makeyourself comfortable, but when
you come on board and you'relike now, you're like you throw
that on us.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Yeah, yeah, but then the price goes up to 130 right
it's like 130 140 as soon as youget on the plane, but you can
do it online for like 70.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Yeah it's more expensive for us to do it than
you them to do it before theyget there.
But it's like why would you putyourself even in that situation
?
And then they come in, like Iwas saying they throw it on us,
like, oh you know it's empty,why can't I what you're going to
do this to me?
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Right, it happens every single day.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
I'm not doing shit to you, dude, you did it to
yourself.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Every single day.
I don't care if there's a seatthat's available.
There's that one person.
And they know too, because theywait until the end of the
boarding process.
Yeah, and they don't know that.
We actually look at them and weknow, we already know, we
already know what seats areavailable and what are not
available.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
There's a combination of things happening here.
One is you have these peoplethat are one, they're just
scammers and they know thesystem.
They're trying to scam it.
And then they have the otherones that are like they're
coming from these lower costcarriers that they, like you
know you can sit anywhere typeof thing, get on the plane, just
do that.
I mean, southwest has alreadychanged that right, that whole
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policy oh yeah they get assignedseats now because it's it just
doesn't work, like it's the bussystem doesn't work.
So, um, you got those people.
But the ones that are likegolden to me are these ones that
come on board and they're inthe back and you have this like
empty section and they stop youand they're being polite and
they're like hey, um, do youneed any volunteers to sit in
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the exit row?
Yeah, no right, like volunteers, like you're like okay, um, you
haven't flown since the 50s.
You know like this is, we don'ttake volunteers, nor do we need
any.
But those to me are likeprecious because it's like you
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know, that's just, that's atotal inexperience, right?
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Well, what's funny, though, is when you look back
through the cabin, you'll seelike four or five rows of the
Economy Plus section that areempty, and then they're all
packed in like sardines, andnobody wants to pay any extra
money for the leg room, theyjust want you to give it to free
.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Yeah, that's, that's all, that's all ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Hey, listen.
Um had a question for you.
When you do a load position alot, yeah.
All right.
So um was on this crew as aload position doing a layover.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
In load position so people understand what a load
position, like the airlines,like each aircraft has a minimum
crew and so the airlines kindof like schedule the crew
members in these core groups soyou'll have these core flight
attendants.
So like, if, if a plane likeseven, three, seven, needs three
flight attendants, we need fouractually to fly it, we need
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four to actually fly it.
Those, uh, the fourth one iswhat we call a load Um, some
people, you know chasers,there's all kinds of names for
those, that person, but that'swhat G is referring to.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
All right, so low position.
Basically I'm by myself.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Yeah, you're by yourself.
You are a solo flight attendant.
It is one of the worstpositions to be in as a new
flight attendant because you'reby yourself, and when we say
you're by yourself, you're byyourself.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
But we're old, so it really don't matter.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
For us it doesn't matter because we know what the
hell we're doing, but for a newflight attendant if you imagine
this young flight attendantgoing out there and they get
this position and they're goingto the hotels by themselves,
they're going to transportationby themselves.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
It's kind of scary, it's kind of funny.
You just said young flightattendant because this is kind
of the story that I'm going toget into.
So I was up there and I wasgoing up to my room and I just
got back from the gym and I waswalking into my room, had my
workout wear on and you know howthe flight attendants are
coming up into the hotel in thehallway.
So they're following me and I'msaying hello to them as we go
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in.
I'm in the room next to thisother young flight attendant.
She was going into the room,said hello and just basically
went in the room, right?
So you know, having the layoverand as the night's going on,
all of a sudden you starthearing some other sounds going
on in the other room.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Oh, the next door, next room, was like being loud.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Oh, it was like a play-by-play.
Sean a play-by-play.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Yeah, what type of sounds were you?
Speaker 2 (20:17):
hearing, whoever it was, that headboard was just
banging against the wall.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Oh, man, that's the worst man it well, I mean it is.
It's good and bad, like it'slike, depending on your
situation when we we wereyounger, I mean.
You're like fantasizing, like,wow man, somebody's having some
fun next door.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
You kind of laugh about it because I mean we've
all been there, but here it is,this bed banging against my wall
and I'm listening to thissaying okay, well, you know,
have to have to have to hearthis because these walls are
like paper, yeah.
But then I'm getting the playby play.
I'm sitting there going.
Man, there's a lot of activitygoing on in this thing.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
This is all good, as long as it doesn't go on for too
long.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Okay, so then it stops.
But it did, it was actually, itwas actually went through the
night, but uh, that's not reallythe funny part of it.
So finally get to bed and I godownstairs.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
And when we go downstairs, a lot of times we'll
meet our crew especially whenwe got an early check-in, yeah,
for the first time, like we'retalking about.
Back to that load chaser deal.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
That's that person that we're like meeting, maybe
for the first time, for that day, yeah, we have the rest of the
crew down there, so on the van,a lot of times we have the same
van going to the airport, sure.
So I'm down there and I meetthe other crew and as I'm
sitting there, this one younggirl comes down and she starts
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talking and she's like, oh myGod, I'm exhausted, exhausted.
She's telling this other flightattendant, she goes, what's on,
she goes, I didn't sleep at alllast night, right, and I looked
at her and and it was the girlthat I had seen in the hallway
and I don't think she actuallyshe realized she didn't
recognize you uh-huh.
So we're getting on the van andand she's sitting there telling
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this girl.
She's like, oh, she goes.
I was up all night and she goes.
I'm exhausted.
And and I'm sitting therethinking's like, oh, she goes, I
was up all night and she goes.
I'm exhausted.
And I'm sitting there thinking,yeah, so am I and she goes.
Why are you exhausted?
I said this girl next to me shewas going at it so much and
screaming and yelling and it wasliterally like a play by play
and I was like what room wereyou in?
And all of a sudden the van gotreal quiet and I was like man,
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I know she didn't admit it.
No, no, no.
She was like, oh, I don't evenknow she goes.
I just wasn't feeling that good.
I was like, yeah, whoever wasnext to me was feeling really
good because, like I said, Iheard this all night long.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
That's awesome.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
But you know that does happen on our cruise.
I mean, it was pretty funny.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
You know, that does happen on our cruise.
I mean, it was pretty funny,dude.
It happens Not even on a cruise.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
I mean the hotels everybody's been in hotels where
we hear some of those audiosounds throughout the hotel.
It was funny because you knowwhen you're looking at this
person and you know it was themand I don't know if she knew it
was me or not.
But oh my god, it was so funnywhen, when she was on advance,
she's like, oh, she goes.
I didn't sleep at all and I waslike, well, no, you didn't.
I mean, your head was goingagainst that, that freaking
backboard or something.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
I mean it was crazy yeah, when you're a young flight
attendant and, as we werereflecting back years ago, sure,
those those nights and stuff,like those short nights and
stuff, we were all about it no,we just.
But now our old, now our oldasses are like can we get some
sleep, please, can you?
Can you get it done?
Speaker 2 (23:39):
we used to fly with skip.
Uh, he used to, uh, he, he wasa pile for us.
He, he loved to go out and weused to go out and listen to
these, um, these bands and hewould be like, hey, gary, go get
some girls, I'm going to payfor their drinks.
Skip was a heavyset guy, butman, he was funny.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
First of all that's an understatement Heavyset this
guy.
He was one of the biggestpilots I've ever seen.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Funny as hell, though he was the most jovial, funny
guy that you'd ever meet.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
But you'd look at him and you'd be like, and we were
flying like smaller aircraftback then.
But you were like literally inthe back of your head like how
is this motherfucker getting inthe cockpit?
How is he squeezing into thisthing?
Because he was that big.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Man, we were laying over there in Atlanta and I
remember we went to this I thinkit was a Renaissance up there
and they used to have thesebands that played there every
Saturday night.
They had this one girl bandthat was up there and Skip had
me go talk to these girls, bringthese girls over, and they were
talking to us and we had a goodtime at a party, you know, and
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Skip, next thing you know,invites them back to the hotel.
So you know he's over therebuying extra stuff, drinking,
having a good time.
But man, did we have a lot offun when we were young?
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Dude, I got a skip story for you.
This is kind of like this takesme way, way back, because right
now, as we're flying into thisstuff, everything's like
automated and electronic and wehave, like these electric our
manuals.
Turn to these.
Now we're like they're on aniphone and uh, so back in the
day, when we were, our manualswere actually real manuals, you
(25:20):
know, like flip page manuals,you know I'm talking about.
Oh yeah, we had to do theselike revisions, weekly, monthly,
like we had to like updatethese manuals.
It was such a pain in the ass.
But back to skip.
We're flying with skip and we'rehaving a good time and we're on
this like like four-day tripand we're, you know, every,
every layover was a good time.
(25:40):
We're going out, having drinkand party and having good
goofing off.
Anyhow was fo that we're flyingwith.
He gets into this thing wherewe're like pulling pranks on
each other and he pulled a prankon skip and where he was like
flying this.
Uh, you know we're flying alongand he had taken skip's manual.
You know, like, when theyopened up their manual, they had
the pilots back.
(26:01):
Then you said, carry thesegiant square bags they call them
brain bags and, uh, all theirmanuals were in there, so these
things were like heavy, too likethey're crazy, I mean 15, 20
pounds, I mean they're, they'refreaking heavy and uh.
So this dude decides to play ajoke on skip and he takes a
section of his manual you knowwhatever his uh manual is and he
(26:23):
starts taking chunks of it andlike reorganizing it so like
when he was like flying, he likeflips open a section and it'd
be like what the hell you knowlike what, what's going on here?
But I mean and you're thinkinglike the safety of this whole
thing that the fo has the rightmanual, but he's like you know,
he's screwing around with yeah,just jacking with him.
Yeah, yeah, so I'm involved withthis.
(26:45):
But you know, weeks, months goby and you remember us back in
the day when we went to trainingOnce a year, flight attendants
had to go to recurrent trainingis what we call it and so we got
to get requalified and we gotto reopen the doors and all that
stuff.
It's like once a year training.
Well, back in the day we had a50-question test that we had to.
(27:06):
When we walked through thetraining door, that was the
first thing you had to do, right?
I remember that, and it was anopen book, right?
Yep, so here I am, I walk intotraining and sit down and I'm
like I'm ready to go.
And guess what happens?
They jacked your manual up.
We have a timed test here.
This 50-question test is timed,but it's open book.
(27:28):
So I opened my manual and Iflipped to the section.
I'm thinking like I'm like dc9,boom.
And you know, here's a 747.
They jacked my shit up.
I was like in panic mode.
I'm running around like I'mlike trying, I'm like scrambling
my head how I only got 30minutes to finish this thing,
like I gotta do this off the topof my head, like I'm gonna have
(27:49):
to pass this off top of my head.
And uh, finally, I was like youknow, I I got to do this off
the top of my head, like I'mgoing to have to pass this off
top of my head.
And finally, I was like youknow, I like went to the one of
the restrictions.
I was like I have no time totalk about this right now, but I
need another manual.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Yeah, cause you.
You can only miss so many ofthose, and then fail.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
I need another manual .
Speaker 2 (28:11):
Cause some of the stuff you have to look up cause
you just don don't there's toomuch to remember.
But uh, yeah, that was my skipskip story but I got jacked.
I, I, I've got so many skipstories it's not even funny, but
that was that renaissance one.
It was hilarious.
There was a lot more to it, but, um, me and him, me and him had
a lot of fun back then.
He was a good guy.
Hey, let's lighten it up alittle bit.
Yeah, yellowstone yellowstone.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Okay, here we go, man .
This is spoiler alert.
Alert everyone.
Spoiler alert.
We're getting ready to talkabout Yellowstones.
We had a fan that actuallycontacted us and was like you
need to let us know.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
If you're like Sean and you don't watch the damn
show for a freaking month whenit's over with, then it's a
spoiler.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
Yeah, but it's not a spoiler anymore.
We have watched it.
We have both completedYellowstone, and let's talk
about it.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Well, I completed a lot, a lot earlier than you did.
All right.
So, Yellowstone, what did youthink of the ending?
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Man, you know what the whole thing about
Yellowstone is like.
You know, I mean both of uswe've said this before Kevin
Costner like really made thatshow.
So I mean to make a wholeseason about Kevin Cosner and
you know they, they killed himin the beginning and, um, you
(29:22):
know the the whole um, how theywrapped up and how they were
going to try to save Yellowstone, and then you know what they're
, what they eventually did withthe Indians and stuff.
I mean, yeah, good solution.
Um, the show's over.
You know, like I mean there'sjust like no future to the show.
So, like like it was an end, itsucked yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
I hated that they killed him in the first episode.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
Yeah, I mean.
Well, Kevin didn't want to doit.
You know they had that,whatever dispute or whatever
they had.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
All you seen was a body.
You knew it wasn't even him.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Yeah, I mean the whole thing was like you know
the whole story.
They had to rewrite the wholestory because he wasn't
participating, whatever.
But it could have been so muchbetter.
I mean so much better, I meanthe show, the whole season.
It was good it had thisYellowstone action.
It was depressing on like youkind of knew things were
(30:24):
wrapping up.
I mean like the auction part ofit.
Like the auction part, I waslike I was a little getting a
little depressed on the wholething.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Right, oh, yeah, yeah .
Speaker 1 (30:32):
Like you, you like you, knew this is the end of it.
It was like the whole show waswrapping up to the end and you
didn't know how it was, how itwas going to.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
I mean, they did kind of leave you in suspense a
little bit because you reallydidn't know.
I mean you knew that they wereselling everything or getting
sold off.
But you know, you got a littlebit of an insight of Casey's
background as a SEAL.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
Yeah, yeah, I mean like that whole storyline, like
they touched upon it early,early in the first years and
stuff like that, but they neverreally brought it up first years
and stuff like that, but theynever really brought it up.
And then you know, when hestarted making his contacts and
stuff like that, which, uh,shout out to all my military
buddies, that I feel like I haveto, even not being a CEO like
(31:16):
me, reaching out to a militarybuddy, I feel like I can do a
little bit of the same thing,like if I needed, needed help,
those guys will come running.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Yeah, it's lifetime.
Yeah, I always thought that.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
It's a brotherhood that you're going to always
reach out to and they're goingto have your back and stuff.
But obviously I don't have anyconnections like a SEAL level.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
No, that'd be next level.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Yeah, that's like next level, but it's like you
always know, your militarybuddies have your back.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
I thought that was really cool because if you know
anything about the SEALs, thatis truly them.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Oh yeah, yeah.
I mean it's like we've had acouple of pilots that are SEALs
you know, ex-seals and stuffthat we've worked with and
what's really interesting to meabout Navy SEALs is that there's
no stereotype to them.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
No.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
Like you would think that they're going to be like
this muscular, you know, likeyou know, totally fit guy.
I mean, I've seen guys that arelike five, four, you know it's
skinny, it's all mental, it'sall mental.
The size and your ability.
I mean, obviously they're goingto carry their weight and all
that stuff.
But, and all that stuff, butwhat your typical, what you
(32:24):
think or your stereotypes thatyou're putting on to a Navy SEAL
?
That's normally not it.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
I just liked how his character I mean he clicked from
basically this cowboy and allof a sudden you've seen this
literally this Navy SEAL warriorcome out of him.
I thought that was pretty cool.
Yeah, but as far as theIndianian reservation, um, I was
kind of surprised that it wentthere.
I mean, I was glad that it didbecause they weren't going to
(32:52):
develop anything on it, so thatwas kind of cool well, I had
already figured out the solution.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
Like I was figuring out the solution, like I knew I
was like sell this somebody, youknow, turn it around, you know
give it and they can give itback to you or something like
that.
You know, like there's so manylike legal ways to like get
around, like giving a piece ofproperty and giving it back to
you and then get out of thosetaxes that they were under and
all that stuff.
So I had already kind of likehad that in the back of my mind.
I just didn't put it into theindian reservation deal, you
(33:18):
know like you were looking intoit deeper than me.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
I was sitting there going this sucks, this sucks man
.
This is going to be over soon.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
Well, I was trying to figure out how they're going to
get out from under those taxes.
I'm in all that land and stuffFirst of all.
Could you even in your mindimagine that amount of land?
Speaker 2 (33:37):
No, I said that a thousand times what it looks
like.
Well, when he stood on hisporch and they said how much do
you can?
Speaker 1 (33:43):
see as far as you can see and beyond yeah, I mean,
that's just mine and you'relooking at a mountain yeah, it
is, it is mind-blowing, there'speople out there that own that
much property from theirfamilies.
It's incredible right, but youhave to maintain and you have to
pay those taxes on that.
Property taxes kill you.
Yeah, I had a buddy had a pieceof land up in Pennsylvania Like
(34:05):
he had been gifted and he waslike it was the worst gift in
the year because all I did everyyear was pay taxes on the land.
He was like it's nice to have apiece of land, but it's like I
wasn't doing anything with it, Iwasn't living on it, it wasn't
you know, I wasn't eventemporarily using it once a year
or anything.
It was just.
It was like a burden given tome, like land is expensive, no
(34:26):
matter if you own it or not.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
But you know, it was kind of cool how they they
separated Rip and Beth and theythey went on with their family,
and then how, how Casey went onwith his family, and then Jamie,
it went to the train station.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
And deserved it.
Oh yeah, yeah, and deserved it.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
Oh yeah, yeah.
I mean, you knew that was goingto happen.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
Yeah, I mean that was just inevitable.
I mean I'm surprised theydidn't kill off Jamie a long
time ago, but he was a greatweasel, right.
I mean his part in the wholething.
They got that actor.
Uh did a phenomenal job withhim good ending for him, though
yeah, yeah, yellowstone.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
Anyways, I mean to sum it up like yellowstone was
uh, it sucks, yeah, it suckedbecause, you know, last night
for the new year, I'm watchinguh, they had a, uh, a whole
marathon of Yellowstone andthere I was watching it the
whole time, enjoying it,thinking this sucks, this is the
end of it.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Yeah, man, I was like yeah, it was over, it was done,
hey, but hey, land man, landman dude.
You've got to be when we talkabout land, man, you're going to
be like laughing your ass offoff.
We're going to have to recordsome of the one-liners that
Billy Bob Thornton says.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
He's funny.
Anyway he is funny.
I mean just that stupid look onhis face too.
I mean Billy Bob Thornton, he'sfunny, he's a good actor too.
He's played some really goodroles too, yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Bad Santa.
I'm looking forward to you tosee that.
Yeah, this is like Landman isBad Santa, but just a loyaler
More Bad Santa shit.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
All right, man, let's go to the destination.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
Destination man.
Destination this week is goingto be Boston.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Boston.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
Man, you know, boston is like one of those
destinations that it doesn'tmatter what time of year you go
there.
Boston there's something to doand Boston's, you know, just
like we were talking about inlike Cleveland last week there
is so much to do in Boston.
You can't just put your fingerand be like this is the one
thing that you got to do inBoston.
There's just too much to do.
But we're going to justhighlight some of the amazing
(36:42):
things that I've done in thepast on layovers and we're going
to just highlight some of theamazing things that I've done in
the past on layovers.
And these are like a lot ofthese things are free.
Like I'm one of those things.
Like I get into the city, Ijust do free shit.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
Two things come to mind with me, with Boston,
what's that?
Chowder, chowder.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
We love chowder man.
I mean any legal seafood.
Yeah, like hit legal seafood inthe airport.
Highly recommend checking outlegal seafood.
Grab your bowl of chowder.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
Big difference than what we used to pay for chowder
Two bucks.
We used to pay $2 for a big-assbowl years ago.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
This is just aging us .
Big bowl years ago, Twofreaking dollars.
We would get two bucks and we'dget this gigantic thing of
chowder Like all the crews wouldrun off and grab a bowl of
chowder.
Now they wouldn't give you aspoon.
Now it's like 15 bucks.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
But the other thing, before you get started about
Boston Norm, norm, norm, cheers,cheers.
Yeah, go to Cheers, right.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
Cheers to me was kind of an anticlimactic thing.
Like I love Cheers.
You know us growing up, it's anera thing.
Like our audience out here mostof the people have like all
watched Cheers, right.
But when you go actually andsee the bar and see how small it
is and everything and it's justlike, okay, this is the bar.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
You still got to go.
It's iconic, yeah, it's iconic.
Okay, this is the bar you stillgotta go.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
It's iconic, yeah, it's iconic, you gotta.
You gotta go.
It's fun.
It's a fun place to go.
You gotta always check out thecheers bar, but in that whole
area, like in that area of like,where cheers is, is a huge
beautiful park right in front ofit.
Um, like in the summertime youcan be out there.
You can, like they got likeflamingo paddle boats and stuff
like that you can go out in thelake there and paddle around, uh
, from that area, all aroundthat area.
(38:29):
The uh freedom trail, um inBoston, uh, kind of winds all
through Boston.
That is like one of my.
I would tell you, if you're ona layover or staying in Boston,
you just want to do somethingfree.
The freedom trail goes all overBoston I'm talking everywhere
all over, up and down themountains and hills there, and
(38:50):
it's all free.
So you can literally walk theFreedom Trail and get this
history of how we became free,the whole history behind Boston
and Paul Revere and all thedifferent things that happened
with the Boston Tea Party andeverything that happened in
Boston.
It's really, really cool.
(39:12):
But in addition to that, Iwould highly recommend that
people don't miss this there'salso a black history trail there
that is the UndergroundRailroad.
So it shows you all thesedifferent places where they had
these people and these familiesthat had hidden slaves and
(39:32):
ex-slaves in their basements andstuff for this Underground
Railroad.
And you're thinking Boston,like this, is way north.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
When we were kids, we had to learn about that in
history.
That's the difference.
They don't teach them aboutthat now.
But when we were in high school, we had to learn about that in
history.
That's the difference.
They don't teach them aboutthat now, but when we were in
high school we had to learnabout that.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
Yeah, I mean so there's two trails Like the big
one that you're going to go toBoston.
Everybody's talking aboutFreedom Trail, but there is
another trail there called theBlack History Trail and I highly
recommend checking it out.
A little shorter trail, butcool places to stop.
There's all kinds of museumsand stuff involved with all
(40:10):
these this whole entire trailtoo.
The other thing that you do inboston here is, uh, you know, I
mean it's all the sites, youknow fenway park, you can, if
you want to go see him, uh,historical, I got a picture of
jackson standing in front offenway park.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
My son is.
It was big baseball player,yeah and uh, and I got a picture
of him, uh, standing in frontof uh Fenway park when he was
when he's a young boy.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
Yeah, yeah, I mean just the um history and the
iconic uh memories and stuffthat come from Fenway park.
I mean that's just to be, to bethere.
You don't have even go in, justlike you're saying like, uh, it
is, it is cool.
The other thing is really cool.
(41:10):
The other thing that's reallycool in Boston, too, is that not
only is it, you know, theshopping there is like amazing.
It's all spread out.
It's like there's shopseverywhere.
But one of my favorite places togo is actually like there's
like a food trail there, likethere's so much food in Boston.
I mean, we were talking aboutchowder, but there's a Quincy
Market Seafood, everything.
If you want to go on a foodadventure, get yourself to
Quincy Market.
It's an indoor market that,from end to end, is nothing but
vendors selling every type ofseafood and pastries and
sandwiches.
Man, it's freaking gourmet todelight.
You're going to, you're goingto.
You're not going to findsomething you're going to want
to eat there.
But the last thing you do likein the food, the number one
(41:32):
thing that when you go to Bostonthat you have to get, is you've
got to experience a lobsterroll.
I mean lobster rolls arefreaking amazing.
You can get them all over toBoston.
There's lots of differentplaces to get them and you ask
anybody, they'll be like, oh,this place is the best and this
place is the best.
But believe me, they're allgood and they're not cheap
(41:52):
anymore.
I mean, we used to be able togo and, like I was we were just
talking about this before on theshow we were like, hey, you
know, we used to be able to flyinto Boston and we would
literally get coolers of livelobsters and lobsters were like
I'm talking like $5 a pound, ohyeah.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
It was unbelievable.
Oh yeah, you could take thewhole box home with you.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
Yeah, we would all like the crew would have like
freaking coolers of lobsters andwe'd like, oh, we're going to
Boston, we got to get somelobsters and bring back home,
you know, because it was just socheap to buy them there.
But man has that changed.
You don't see boxes anymore.
No, you don't see.
You don't see people, you know,transporting lobsters anymore.
The lobsters have freaking gone, skyrocket high and all this
stuff and uh interesting thingabout uh, lobsters and a lot of
(42:38):
I don't know if a lot of peopleknow this, but like lobsters was
like, like you know, terrible,like bad food.
They used to feed theirprisoners in Boston lobster,
that was the food they would get, lobster three times a day.
Speaker 2 (42:52):
Not that case now.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
Yeah, that was a long , long time ago.
Speaker 2 (42:56):
I don't think you're going to see a lobster roll in
the penitentiary.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
I don't think the penitentiary today is having
lobster rolls, but yeah, theyused to feed the prisoners
lobster because it was likeconsidered, like you know,
varmint.
You know, here's like feedingrats to the prisoners.
But yeah, that's it.
But Boston, man, there's justso much to do.
Man, get to Boston, and itdoesn't matter what time of year
(43:29):
.
I mean, I will tell you all thewarmer times of of years spring
, summer um, they are phenomenal.
Get out just to be a walk inboston and the whole experience
and the, the feeling there.
But, uh, anytime's great.
But the other thing about toboston too don't have to not
mention this is that they havean amazing theater district like
you can go see all kinds ofcool shows and stuff.
Like blue man group has beenthere for years and years I mean
, I mean decades.
It seems like a really coolshows and stuff that you could
(43:51):
see there as well.
So Boston's got everything tooffer.
Check it out.
Speaker 2 (43:54):
Very cool little place.
All right, boston folks, anddon't forget to go to cheers.
I had thrown that.
I like cheers.
Speaker 1 (44:04):
Right, that was funny All right.
Speaker 2 (44:06):
Funny, all right, listen, uh.
So the quote for the beginningof this year the best time for
new beginnings is now absolutely.
Speaker 1 (44:16):
Here's the start, start of the year, so we started
2025, folks, uh again.
Happy new year everyone let'sget it on we are gonna have a
great year this year.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
You guys have a great year and we will see you next
time on Cabin Pressure, nexttime.
See ya, see ya.
Speaker 1 (44:35):
Happy New Year.
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