026: Faith, Uncertainty, and the Future of America. With Stefan Hansen

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Imagine navigating a pandemic as an essential worker, wrestling with curfews, and grappling with the ever-changing rules. Caleb and Stefan open up about their personal experiences during COVID-19, from the intense measures at Walgreens to the broader societal impacts. We reflect on how these unprecedented times have reshaped our daily lives and what the future holds for America post-pandemic.

Is America spiraling into moral decline? We tackle this provocative question by examining recent cultural events, from religious mockery at the Olympics to the controversy surrounding Celine Dion’s children’s clothing line. Our conversation shifts to the peaceful nature of Christians compared to other faiths, and we consider the looming threat of a Yellowstone eruption, painting a sobering picture of current societal trends.

Finally, we explore the power of faith and self-improvement in these challenging times. We delve into generational differences, the culture shift towards Christianity, and the role of spiritual motivation in personal growth. From the significance of carrying the Bible to the pressing need for reconnecting with Christ, we underscore the urgency for spiritual awakening amidst global uncertainties. Join us for a heartfelt discussion that blends personal anecdotes with deep reflections on faith and our changing world.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
First, I have to say thank you to all of the
supporters of the show.
It comes in handy when you guysdonate, so thank you for that,
but I'm never going to ask forit as I don't need it.
But with that being said,welcome back, stefan.
Well, hello there.
How?

Speaker 1 (00:25):
are you?
I'm there.
How are you?
I'm great.
How are you, Caleb?

Speaker 2 (00:30):
I'm good, stefan, thanks for asking.

Speaker 1 (00:32):
I didn't know people were donating Like are they just
donating like five bucks hereand there, or something like
that?

Speaker 2 (00:37):
In the on the, like Spotify and Apple podcast, in
the, the link or in thedescription there's a support
the show button link, I don'tknow.
Yeah, link and you go to.
That brings you to the websiteand then it gives you an option
to do like three, five or tendollars a month oh, that's not

(00:58):
bad.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
So it's like twitching away with subscribers
because you can, yeah, give likepremium and like I guess if
you're subscribed to like amazonprime, you can give out free
subs or something like that,whatever it is, and then you can
like give different tiered subsfor you.
So if you have like tier one,two, three, then whatever you
get, like you got more exclusive, uh, content on discord and

(01:18):
patreon and all that other crap.
So, but I don't have thatbecause I haven't streamed in a
minute, but but that that's atleast how it is from from the
content creators that I watchyeah, so it's.
Maybe it's the same thing, Idon't know yeah but that's kind
of nice, though, that people aredoing that.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
So, yeah, yeah, stop, I'll be able to, I'll be able
to quit my job any day justabout 50 years.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
It's been 84 years that old hag on titanic rose she
probably did.
Right, she's got a name.
Oh, she does.
Whoa rose.
Whoa rose toes bows.
We're gonna move on, yeah weare all right, stephan.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
Big question yeah, what do you think is the future
holds for america?
Oh, with current state.
Yeah, with the current state ofaffairs it's.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
It's getting kind of uh crazy out there, if I'm
honest with you, like yeah, fromeven before covid times and
whatnot, it was getting a littlecrazy, but now it's like ever
since covid 2020, everything'sjust gone wild I feel like
that's because more peopleduring covid got adapted to.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
I'm sorry, they didn't got adapted to it.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
They became adapted more to being online yeah, well,
I mean when the governmenttells you, like you have a
curfew and it's almost likemartial law kind of, except like
you're not walking outside andabout to get shot, like you're,
you're under that curfew andmandate of stay inside, don't go
out.
If you're an essential worker,you're gonna have special

(02:58):
paperwork to drive and go doanything yeah, I never had any
of that, but I did it.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
I get that there was some of.
I don't think anybody wasreally paying attention to that
yeah, I mean were cops reallystopping people probably not,
they probably.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
They probably weren't because, like, I'm sitting
there and I'm driving, just fineand I got my paperwork, though,
from farmer's insurance, butthere were several times, like
when I worked there, that Iforgot to bring my paperwork
from my place to the office.
If I had to go in to get likeprinted paperwork or whatever to
send to corporate and do it,I'm telling you it was just like

(03:34):
okay, I don't see any coppulling somebody over to just
find out, because how manypeople are driving on the road?
First of all, you think there'sgoing to be that many cops out
and the road pulling everyoneover just to verify, they have
paperwork.
Yeah, they don't have the timeRight, they don't have the time
or resources at that matter.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
Like who wants to be a cop nowadays?

Speaker 2 (03:55):
That's true, but that's crazy.
I forgot about all thathappened during 2020.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
Yeah, and then the fact, too, that you know stores
nowadays like okay, so when Igot COVID back in 2021 or no, it
was 2020 because my dad hadgotten it first and then I got
it in 2021.
So it was just one of thosecrappy times where my dad would

(04:27):
be at home and he would have tostay home from work, obviously,
and I had to tell my work atwhen I worked at walgreens
during that time hey, my dad hascovid, even though I'm not
displaying the symptoms oranything like that.
I still had to stay home fortwo weeks and actually that was
the funny part about that is, itwas the last um time that they
did the whole like we're gonnapay you for two weeks to stay
the heck away yeah from ourstore or business and they would

(04:48):
close down the store.
For about what was it?
I think it was they closed itdown from the moment that
somebody announced that they hadcovet or somebody in their
household that had covet, untilthis biohazard team or something
came by.
And they biohazard team orsomething came by and they

(05:08):
sanitized every nook and crannyin the store and then you would
have to wait two more hoursafter that to let everything
settle and then you could reopenfor business.
And it's like holy crap, thatjust for a cold that would have
cost a lot of money.
Yeah, I feel like, but Walgreensis pharmaceutical, so I don't
if you're in the pharmaceutical.
But wow, if you're in thepharmaceutical business, then

(05:31):
you pretty much have like anyamount of resource of money that
you can get, and especially ifthe government is helping you
fund this.
Because Walgreens even at thattime too, when I worked there,
we were one of the firstbusinesses to get the covid
vaccine, the very first one.
And they were like, yeah, we're, these are for the first line

(05:53):
workers right now, and thenwe're gonna see how we feel and
then we're gonna give them outto the public and all this other
crap.
And me and my boss and a fewothers were like no, we're not
trusting that.
There's been no tests on it,there's been nothing on it.
Like I want to see what happens.
So me and my dad, stepmom, mybrother, like we're not

(06:17):
vaccinated.
My sister is, but she wasworking in a hospital at the
time, so you had to.
And same thing at walgreens.
If you were a pharmacist oranything in that field.
You had to take the vaccine oryou lose your job.
So now.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
I know, though, after seeing the result of people who
have gotten it, all the sideeffects they have.
Yeah, I think if that happensagain, I'm gonna lose my job.
Yeah, I'm just not going totake it.

Speaker 1 (06:46):
Yeah, no, I'm not going to take it either.
Like screw that, like the otherthing is too, is I feel like it
weakens your immune system abit, because ever since then my
dad I mean he's 72 years old now, but back then, even after the
vaccine like a cold, he couldwithstand that and be done with
it within like a day or two andit wouldn't be as bad.
But I've known people that Iused to work with at my old job

(07:10):
that they got the vaccine andlike their immune system, just
they would get sick more andthey'd be like having headaches
more and all this other crap,and it's like okay, like that's
a clear evidence sign thatsomething is in there that's
weakening an immune system.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:28):
Because then at that point, conspiracy theory, I
guess in a way.
But they could be maybeplanning something else in
regards to another pandemic,because I know they were trying
that crap earlier with anothervariant of COVID, yeah.
And so it's like, oh, get theother booster vaccine for well,

(07:48):
people aren't buying it anymore.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
No, I'm not as much as they did then, especially
with all the stuff that's comeout like it was made in a lab.
I don't even think that's aconspiracy anymore.
I think it's come out that itactually has been made in a lab.
The COVID virus.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
Yeah, then, um, and then on top of that, oh, and
then on top of that too, is justthe other crap where it's like
obviously back then in 2020, itwas like holy crap, like we have
to stay inside and everybodywas in a panic.
And as soon as they got word ofa vaccine that somehow recently

(08:26):
got made and like produced thatsame year within a few months
from the like from the actualvirus releasing, now everybody's
like running to go get it.
But now it's like I don't care,like my immune system, I know,
is strong.
Sure, when I, when I have acold, I look like I'm dying, but

(08:46):
like I can fight it off quickerthan most people.
There's been people that I knowthat have had a cold for like a
week or two.
It's like, good Lord, like comeon now, like just take your
vitamins or whatever and just bedone and over with.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
But no, People underestimate the power that
vitamins have, I know, theFlintstone gummies.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
They're amazing, yeah , especially the Barney ones,
you know.
And then you got FredFlintstone.
And who's the dog?
Dino or Dino, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
I don't know, I don't know who that is.
I think it's.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
Dino I think Dino is their pet.
It's a dog, but it's like adinosaur or whatever.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
But anyway, yeah, anyway, we're going to move on.
So the current state of affairswith America you think that
it's going to go downhill.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
I'm thinking so With the rate that things have gone
on, especially like with therecent events of the Olympics,
where people are trying God morethan they have in the last few
years, and by trying you meanmocking, yeah, mocking.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
So trying is my version of mocking.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
Right, I understand what you're saying, but there's
some people who might be like oh, does he mean like practicing
the religion?

Speaker 1 (10:02):
Right or like you know.

Speaker 2 (10:05):
But you're saying like try me.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
Yeah, like they're saying, try me, god, and so you
know, you get the Olympics wherethey're mocking the Last Supper
.
And if you notice too, this wasanother cool fact I didn't know
about so when the power wentout in Paris after that, there
was a church that still hadelectricity and it was just
right there in the picture, butthe media doesn't want to show

(10:27):
that.
You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
Right, yeah, of course not.

Speaker 1 (10:30):
Yeah, so the church was the only thing that still
had power and everything else,and it's like the whole Olympics
just had that power outage andit's like, hmm, kind of shows
what you're toying with.
You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
So, and then even the other part is, too, is with
celine dion did you hear aboutwhat happened to?
Her recently.
No, she had olympic athlete.
No, celine dion's the girlthat's like, my heart will go on
and on from titanic.
She sings that song.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
Oh, I would have never known.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
Yeah.
So she has a new clothing linethat she's doing and I don't
know how recent, but I know itwas recent that she did this.
But she's got a clothing linefor kids that she's coming out
with and the commercial for itshows she's got all these babies
lined up at a hospital.
They're just newborns.
So you've got your blue, yourpink, pink, blue pink for like

(11:32):
boy girl, boy, girl.
You know, oh, let me guess,yeah, so get this.
So she had on her clothing lineit's got like witchcraft
symbols and demonicsymbolization on it and you know
they play it off, as you know.
Oh, it's just a clothing lineto make it look like a cool
design.
But in the commercial she walksinto that room with all the
babies.
She's dressed up in all blackand the room gets darker and she

(11:53):
like blows as she goes withlike this powder crap or
whatever, like witchcraft crapand witchcraft crap and all the
babies like turn into non-binary, like genderless, like babies
and stuff.
So all the clothing changes tolike black and gray and whatever
, and then she, yeah, and thenit shows off the clothing line

(12:15):
of for like, not only babies but, like you know, women and men,
and it's got like again all thesymbolism and stuff like that,
and then not even oh, when wasit?
I think it was shortly aftershe just had a stroke and she
had to go to the hospital andshe was in severe pain.
So it's like, hmm, again you'resaying try me to god at that

(12:36):
point yeah and you're using forone witchcraft which goes
against god and demonic, whichalso goes against God.
So you're saying come at me,bro, to God, and then that
happens.
God's not tolerating crap toomuch longer.
I don't think.

(12:56):
And that's where you're seeingmore of a downfall with things
like in the current state of theUnited States, where again
people are mocking God andpeople are mocking Christianity
in general and Christians, andputting us down for believing in
God.
But if you don't believe inBuddha or whatever, then shame

(13:19):
on you and we're going to killyou or whatever they have for
their faith.
I think there's something inthe Muslim thing in the Quran or
whatever, like you're aninfidel if you don't believe in
Allah.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (13:33):
So Christians?
You know we're infidels at thatpoint, jewish people are
infidels, and so it's like okayso, but have you noticed, though
, that Christians really don'tgo out there and kill people in
the name of their faith oranything like that, or start
riots in the name of their faith?

(13:53):
We're more kind of what's theword for it?
We're more I wouldn't say, laidback, peaceful, peaceful, yeah,
we're more peaceful with it,peaceful.
Well, that's what we're calledto be right.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
So, yeah, we'll let stuff happen up to a certain
degree, I'm sure well, there waspeople who definitely protested
the olympics, but I like whennobody was, at least not a good
majority of christians, werewriting, I'm sure somewhere,
maybe there was something I wantto say.

Speaker 1 (14:25):
There was none of that happening, but no, nothing
that I know of no, and same herewith me, other than I just knew
the power went out and then theonly thing that was lit up was
the church.
So I'm like, okay, so.
And then there's other thingstoo that are going off in the
current state, like I don't knowif you heard about yellowstone
exploding had a little bit of anexplosion.

(14:45):
No, yeah, there was apparentlylike it.
I don't think it was a geyser,because I mean a geyser would
just be like you know, water andsteam and everything else that
usually has a yellowstone, but Ithink it's getting closer to
erupting, which I mean sciencealready says like it's gonna
erupt at some point.
It's due for an eruption, andso that could be catastrophic on

(15:07):
top of everything else that'sbeen going on.

Speaker 2 (15:09):
Is that the one that they say if it erupts, the whole
United States is gone, orwhatever?

Speaker 1 (15:14):
Most of it.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
If they even know that.

Speaker 1 (15:18):
Yeah, if they even know that, I think, yeah,
yellowstone, if it explodes,it's going to be like a
catastrophe.
There's going to be a lot ofcollateral damage and everything
else like that and death.
But that could be another thing.
Somebody could be testing Godover there near Yellowstone and
then next thing, you know, thewhole place just blows up.
Because it is Because you know,back in the Bible days, like

(15:40):
you know, when Jesus was beingcrucified and stuff like he and
I don't know if I'm wording thiscorrectly, but like he, he put
up with, you know, the soldierslike nailing him to the cross
and everything else andeverybody like shunning him.
For you know, you know spreadingthe word of God and everything
like that.
And then he died and rose againfor our sins.

(16:01):
He put up with that for us.
But again, where I think nearthe end times, at this point and
with the way that the country'sgoing, he's not tolerating the
crap anymore, he's, he's showingsigns that he's existing,
because I doesn't, I feel like,doesn't it say somewhere like,
if, like um, it's been a minute,but if you like have mockery

(16:25):
against God, then he's going tomake his presence known, like
he's not going to just straightup like, just like, smack you
but you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
Yeah, I know, I don't know if it says it somewhere.
Maybe it sounds like somethingI could, but it's not,
definitely not something that Iwant to mess with.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
Right, like I'm not going to sit there and test God,
god, you know, like if I don'tget a girlfriend, like next week
and be like, oh, curse you.
And then just all of a sudden Iget leprosy or something like
that, just out of nowhere.
It's like no, I ain't testingthat.
But yeah, because that's thedisease you'd get yeah I'm just
saying, though it's like I'm notwanting to test the waters on

(17:02):
that crap, and other people are,because they're like, oh well,
my belief is gonna be outrankinggod.
And it's like I'm not wantingto test the waters on that crap,
and other people are, becausethey're like, oh well, my belief
is going to be outranking God.
It's like no, that's not howthat works.
God is the one and only trueGod.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
Stephan, I think we need to move to Texas.

Speaker 1 (17:14):
I think we should.
Texas is one of those statesthat's probably the most safe
out of every state in the UnitedStates right now.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
That and Wyoming, but I think Yellowstone.
Where is Yellowstone?
Is that in California?

Speaker 1 (17:29):
No, it's not in California.
I think it's somewhere nearWyoming-ish.

Speaker 2 (17:33):
Yeah, I think it is the one by.
Are you looking it up?

Speaker 1 (17:35):
Yeah, I'm looking it up.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
I think it's the one that's by Wyoming in Idaho and
where is Yellowstone?
Touches somewhere, somewherearound there.
I think a small part mighttouch Montana or something.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
Wyoming National or no?
Is it in Wyoming?
Oh, it is in Wyoming.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
Yeah, well then, maybe that's not a safe state,
but that is a.
It's a huge state with barelyanybody living in it.
That's why I want to go there.

Speaker 1 (18:08):
Yeah, and I mean that wouldn't be such a bad idea.
I don't think either.
Um, I just know too that ifstuff starts going south over
here in michigan, um, I see, Iwould think out of all the
states in the united states,michigan would be the safest
because we're surrounded bywater to a degree yeah and we
probably have more likeresources than most other states

(18:32):
.
I would think, like you know, wehave apple trees, we have like
lumber, we're like the mainsupplier for automotive, like
cause, we have GM, chevy andFord all in Michigan.
So and then you have a bunch ofother resources and I know
other states obviously havetheir.
You know stuff too, but it'slike Michigan if stuff happens

(18:56):
there.
My dad was telling me that youwant to go south.
So he's planning like theyusually go to Florida because
they're old, so all old peoplego down to Florida.
But yeah, he plans on goingdown to Florida and he says that
that would probably be thefirst safest place you could go,
and then Texas.
So I told him, if I need to goanywhere, I'm going to try to

(19:18):
get to Florida, with avoidinghighways and stuff, because you
know dang well that if in thecurrent state of the United
States, if stuff gets real witheverything and again like people
testing the waters, waters withGod, and then God's like no,
okay, we're done with this crap,and he's showing his wrath like
he did that's the reference Iwas referring to is it's Noah

(19:43):
with the ark, where people weremocking him and like oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
Yeah, but does that mean he still does that today?
No, that's the question.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
Yeah, I don't think he does, no, but like if stuff
happened with that, then yeah,I'm going down south and so I
said if I can't get to Florida,then I'm going to Texas.
So those are one of the twoplaces that I'm going to be
going.
So if I don't show up inFlorida, just assume that I'm in
Texas and if anything elsehappens, then pray, I guess at

(20:10):
that point so.
But I plan on just taking mybike and whatever else I have in
my bug out bag and calling itgood.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
So you think you're gonna survive on your motorcycle
?

Speaker 1 (20:20):
I mean, I would think a motorcycle is a little bit
more uh, what's the word for it?
agile agile and durable in the.
In the aspect of if you need togo somewhere, like because you
can weave in and out of traffic,yeah, you can ride the sides
you can.
You can go off road to a degree, but it's not really welcoming

(20:45):
on a motorcycle, but then youalso have the aspect of a car.
If you have a truck, you'reprobably better off because you
can go off road and do all thatother crap.
What about rain?
Rain, oh yeah, with rain on abike, yeah, you got to be
careful as crap because you'reon two wheels versus four, where
you have some stability.
So you know, if I'm in Iwouldn't want to drive my accord

(21:06):
because I mean, yeah, cord.
Because I mean, yeah, it's gotfour wheels and it's got decent.
You know miles to the gallon?
Yeah, but in a situation whereif I needed to get through or
around something, you're verylimited because it's way wider
than this table, than than whatwe're, what we're sitting at,
and then my motorcycles, likeprobably maybe half no, not even

(21:30):
not even half like probably adecent-sized portion of the
table.

Speaker 2 (21:33):
Yeah, but getting down to Texas or Florida would
probably take at least a fullday.
If you did it nonstop, how muchtime do you think you have if
things quote-unquote go down inAmerica?

Speaker 1 (21:46):
Well, I would say okay.
Well, just speaking of I can'ttalk today for a second hold on,
let me do this.
So my bike has a four gallontank and I can get 60 miles to
the gallon.
So that's at least 240 milesbefore fill up.

(22:06):
So it's 22 hours to get toFlorida and I would say probably
30 I'm just going to say anestimate because I'm not sure
what.
Texas I would say about 30hours or so for texas.
So and this is, I think,avoiding highways, if I'm
correct, is 22 hours yeah, thenit's gonna take even longer,

(22:29):
right but I mean, if it got tothat point, I think the
adrenaline would be kicking into where you ain't gonna stop
until you get even your gas tankwould have adrenaline and
wouldn't have to fill up at allimagine no, there is, there is a
yeah but what is the?
the back roads are going to besafer, you think they're,
they're going to be a lot easierto navigate through versus,

(22:51):
like, the main interstates andeverything like that.
So here's the thing In everyzombie apocalypse like the
Walking Dead, the Last of Us,you know dang well that the
highways, interstates, whateverare all going to be packed
because people are going tothink oh, the highway.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
Maybe they're just trying to show us that in movies
so that when we happen we takethe back roads.
Yeah then they're all takenover the back roads.
That'd be screwed up.

Speaker 1 (23:17):
I mean, don't get me wrong, in the Walking Dead they
had some stuff where back roadswere like blocked off and
everything else like that.
But it's one of those thingsagain where that's going to be
your easiest route to getthrough.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
Do you think there could be a zombie apocalypse?
How likely do you think azombie apocalypse?

Speaker 1 (23:34):
in today.
I can't talk either.

Speaker 2 (23:35):
Apocalypse is to happen in today's world.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
Here's, here's the only thing that I have to back
up with it.
Okay, there, there's two,actually two things.
I don't think it's likely still, but there's evidence that
something could happen.
Just probably not like you knowwhere you get.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
And for the sake of fun we'll say we'll go with.

Speaker 1 (23:57):
Yeah, we'll go with the walking dead, yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
Like, for the sake of having a fun conversation,
we'll go with the likelihoodthat there could be.
How do you think it wouldhappen?
Because you said you had tworeasons.
Yes, how could?

Speaker 1 (24:08):
Okay, there's two reasons how it could.
Okay, there's two reasons.
So one is a fungus, um, whichis kind of like the last of us,
but not really where.
So, because in the last of usit's a fungus that, like,
mutates it go, it's like uh,spores or whatever that crawl
into your system and then theylike mutate you and crap and
then you're a zombie.
Yeah, but there is an actuallike fungus that it takes over

(24:31):
ants' bodies and small insects.
So what it does is it gets intotheir body somehow with their
exoskeleton and then it takesover the brain and it kills them
and then they take control ofthe body and then they devour
other ants and all this othercrap.

Speaker 2 (24:47):
Right, but the ant that has the fungus is dead.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
Yeah, the ant that has the fungus is dead.
Yeah, the ant that has thefungus is dead.
So in, they.
They said and this is whatscience said, at least what I'm
reading off is that if thisfungus were to evolve and spread
to a little bit bigger insectsat a time, it obviously would
take a while.
Yeah, but you know as it, itprobably could take over a human

(25:12):
brain and, you know, takecontrol.
And then we have a zombieapocalypse situation where it's
just eating you alive and thenyou die, and then it's taking
control.
But our brains are way toocomplicated versus an ant's
brain to, like you know, takecontrol over, right?

(25:33):
In that aspect of things.
So they would say it would takelike a buttload of those
bacteria to get into our brainto even try to attempt to make
us like zombies.
I guess the other one I don'tknow what this one is exactly
but deers I don't know if younotice it, but there's like this

(25:53):
bacteria where, like, I don'tthink the deer is fully dead,
but it's definitely on its wayto being dead, but body parts
are like falling off it.
It's almost like leprosy in away, but like its face is
drooping, like it had a stroke.
Its eyes are like back, likerolled in the back of their head
and all this other crap, andthey're just walking like normal
with boils and all this othercrap.
It's like the dead deer diseaseor something like that it's

(26:16):
called, and so they're like theydon't.
I don't know what it is oranything I've done dead deer
disease.
I don't know, that's what I'mcalling it okay.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
Is this the second mom disease?
Is this the second way youthink that it could?

Speaker 1 (26:29):
or is this like the same type of I guess it's both,
where it's like the last one butit's like the second, because
this is where it's like it's abigger animal that something is
taking over to a degree and soit's really like if something
can evolve to get to that pointwhere it's like eating a deer
alive and it's still somewhatalive, but dead ish at the same

(26:50):
time like what's saying, likethat couldn't happen to a human
at some point you know what Imean it obviously again with
with the bacteria or whatever itis evolving.
It's going to take a while forthat to happen, but with time
something could happen.
And then there's obviously beencases like the bath salt guy in

(27:13):
florida where he just was socoked up on drugs that he, like,
was eating a guy's face andthey shot him like seven times
of the chest and he wouldn't godown because his adrenaline was
so high yeah, that's prettyscary.
Yeah, think about it and I meanI guess that could be a second
one too is like there could be adrug out there that like
literally kills you, but somehowit still gains control of the

(27:35):
body and then, or just takesover your mind like that guy
yeah he was still alive.
But I mean, it's just like likeworld war z kind of thing, or
even I am legend.
I am legend.
I think it was a vaccine thatlike killed everybody in the
city and will smith you know theguy that smacked chris rock was
the only one that survived yeah, but the fact that it was a
vaccine is what's right.

(27:57):
So I don't think covid wouldever got no, yeah, I don't.
I don't either, I'm just sayingbut I mean, you never know,
like they could just play it offas another disease happening
and then they inject people tosee and test and like what's
going on and here's how itreacts and next thing you know
you got a world war z kind oflike thing going on or walking
dead, where we're gonna have tofind rick grimes and, uh, daryl

(28:18):
dixon.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
They're gonna have to like save the day, pretty much
yeah I'm not telling anybodywhere I live, just because I
don't want to, but I'mdefinitely staying here because
this is a pretty safe place foryeah, anything for that to go
down, it's a burger king.

Speaker 1 (28:32):
We're just up in the attic right now.
It's pretty cool, the burgerking lives here.
Yeah, you're having it your wayright now, aren't you?

Speaker 2 (28:42):
yeah wow hilarious.
I know.
Earlier we talked about yourbug out bag and you said now
you're looking for a bible toput in it.
Yes, why is that?

Speaker 1 (28:52):
so my reasoning for putting a bible in my bug out
bag is, in the event thatsomething does happen in the
current state of the unitedstates, is that then?
That way I have a sense ofcomfort and um confidence, I
guess in a way you could saywhere if I'm alone, then I know

(29:13):
that I have christ in me at thatpoint yeah, and the same thing
with this dog tag.
I got where it's.
It's stainless steel.
It's got that the cross righthere, and then it's got the
lord's prayer underneath, likethe whole thing yeah so that
brings a sense of comfort andconfidence where if like
somebody's, like mocking, youknow the hey, you know

(29:33):
Christianity is fake, you knowthat Then it's like no, I have
the confidence to be able tostand up for that.
You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
Luckily I haven't had that yet, but in the event that
that does happen, I canconfidently say like, yeah, I'm
a believer of Jesus Christ.
He's the only one, the Lord andSavior, and the Bible, I think,
would help too in the eventthat if there's an apocalypse of
some kind and we need to getout, then that Bible could help

(30:01):
somebody else that I meet alongthe road.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
So it's almost like spreading the message, and it's
good to just have the word withyou, right, so you can just read
it over and over, yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
And I mean it is a king james version, but I mean
I'm still learning how to readit, you know, because it's like
tis of the how and like yeah, itis, yeah, it's definitely
difficult yeah, so when you getit down, it's more fun yeah
especially the psalms.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
They're very poetic.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
And that's a good thing to have too when you're
just out there, because it'll atleast keep you knowledgeable.

Speaker 2 (30:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
And you know it'll keep your spirits up too,
because I feel like, if you know, you get your normal people
that don't believe in Christ andthey're going to be panicking
left and right or just goinglike bazonkers.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
Yeah, they're not going to have peace in the chaos
.

Speaker 1 (30:51):
Right, and so they're not gonna have peace in the
chaos, right, and so they're notgonna know what's going on and
they can mess up or even getthemselves like killed.
But you know, I feel like ifyou got a bible, or somebody at
least comes to you and likepreaches the word, at that point
it'll keep your spirits up andit'll get you in the right
mindset to carry on and move on,and then you could also then
have that person.
It's like a train, you know youspread the word, they spread

(31:13):
the word, they spread the word.
The next person, so on, soforth that's usually how it
spreads pretty fast.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
Yeah, that spreads a lot faster than you think it
does.
Instead of having, like thesebig mega churches is doing that
one-on-one discipleship typething, yeah, and, but what if
you are the, the real book ofeli, the real book of you?

Speaker 1 (31:36):
have you ever seen that movie?
Who?
Who is it that's in there?
Is it?
It's not, um, it's denzelwashington.
That's who?
Okay, yeah, denzel washington.
It's been years since I've seenthe book so you'd obviously
look a little different but whatif?
You not as handsome or buff,yeah, not as handsome as where I
was going but what if you werethat guy?

(31:57):
If I was that scary would thatbe.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
You had to be the guy that travels to the printing
press to get the bible there,the last bible pretty scary.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
But at the same time, though, if I know I'm doing the
right thing at that point anddoing what's right in the lord's
eyes, then I should havenothing to fear at that point
yeah so, and that's that's howit goes, even during the end
times too.
I don't know if you've seen anylike things about the right, the
rapture and what it's going tobe like for those who get left
behind and everything but likethey're going to start like

(32:27):
pulling christians, almost likethey did during the Holocaust
with the Nazis and the Jews,where it's going to be like you
know, submit your life toChristianity or to Satanism or
whatever.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
Or whatever it is, yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
Yeah, or die, or get like your skin peeled and
everything else, or boiled, youknow, and it's like no.
And if you choose not to, yeah,you'll be on this earth
temporarily in complete agony,but once you pass on, you'll be
with the Lord at that point.

(33:00):
But again, this is the perfecttime right now, I think.
Again, what I'm saying is, withthe current state of how
everything is, I think this is agood time for people to get in
tune with christ at that point,because then, at that point,
there'll be more people going upin the rapture than people
staying here.
When that happens, yeah and Idon't want to see anybody that I

(33:23):
know, let alone myself, be downhere when you know crap hits
the fan at that point yeah, it'spretty scary because in
revelations it says like there'sgoing to be days where people
want to die but they won't.
That's kind of wild to thinkabout yeah, well, and if you
notice too, I don't feel like awhole lot of like at least maybe

(33:47):
other podcasts like this orsomething like that like
actually talk about the endtimes as much, because the end
times obviously it's scary.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
Really, I think it's like over talked about sometimes
.

Speaker 1 (33:58):
Do you.

Speaker 2 (33:59):
Well, back at res.
It seems like there was a lotof talk, sometimes like we're
living in the end times, butit's like we're technically ever
since Jesus left, we've been inthe end times, right.

Speaker 1 (34:10):
Like we're technically, ever since jesus
left, we've been in the endtimes, right it's just been kind
of dragging on until, like, Ifeel like again it's it could.
It could very well happen.
We don't know though, becauseit doesn't give us a date and
time of when and where this isgoing to all take place, so, but
I know we're not supposed to beable to meet the antichrist at
that point, so I know there's aworld war three before really

(34:33):
yeah, there's supposed to be aworld war three before and then
the rapture is supposed tohappen before the antichrist can
like, basically because he'sgoing to come off as this guy or
whatever that he's gonna be,everybody's gonna love him
yeah, everybody's gonna love him.
He's gonna be like world peaceand everything like that, and so

(34:53):
, before we even see or know whohe is, we're supposed to be
gone at that point, and thenwhoever is there, like here on
earth, at that point, will thenknow that, yep, that's the
antichrist, and I should havelistened and I should have done
this.
So that's where it's like rightnow, I think, is the time to

(35:14):
you know, get with christ and beable to, you know, redeem
yourself for your sins and tryto work on yourself and help
others out, and you know, helpyourself, everything like that.
You know, spread the word outyeah, it's kind of because I
don't know how kind of freakythinking about, yeah, I mean
it's freaky, but it's.

Speaker 2 (35:31):
It's kind of, because I don't know how kind of freaky
thinking about, yeah, I meanit's, it's freaky, but it's,
it's inevitably going to happenright, I know and I I hope I'm
like pass on before yeah becausethere's some people who think
that there is no rapture andthat everybody just lives
through the tribulation.
Well, there's some like yeah, Idon't know who's right.

(35:52):
Like are you right or are theseother people right?
right there's like some peoplewho would disagree with you and
there's people who are like,yeah, I'm going to be gone when
the rapture happens right so Ijust hope that I'm gone before
any of it?

Speaker 1 (36:04):
I would.
I would hope so too at thispoint.
I know my dad.
He, uh, he, he would sit thereand talk with everything that's
been going on.
He goes, dude.
Nothing of back when I was akid growing up, or even a young
adult, was anything compared totoday he goes.
He feels so bad for ourgeneration and younger
generations that are here,because it's just getting worse.

Speaker 2 (36:28):
Yeah, because you can't live your life.
It's like You're restricted oneverything Living and breathing
you know, yeah, and the wokepeople are pushing their
religion on everybody else.
Yeah, Like hey, you betterbelieve this, or you're bigoted
or whatever.

Speaker 1 (36:45):
Yeah, or you're canceled on Twitter or whatever
you know.

Speaker 2 (36:49):
Yeah, Because that's how it is at the same time,
there is somewhat of a cultureshift where there is actually a
lot of people turning tochristianity or talking about
god, trying to find the truth,because we've been living in a
in a nation of degeneracy for,like the fat past 50, 60 years,

(37:12):
ever since the feminist movementhappened go figure.
And now everybody's seeing whatthis is causing Just this
snowball effect of constant wokeism, and so I think there is
people turning back and talkingabout it, so that's a good sign

(37:33):
too, but it doesn't mean thatit's necessarily going to change
anything.

Speaker 1 (37:38):
But we'll see I mean in just the fact of hearing.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
That is like it is to me good news too like a lot of
people on the joe rogan podcastare talking about it.
Some of them are like weird,yeah, when they talk about god,
joel rogan, right, yeah, I know,I'm just saying, but then
there's some like he.
A couple weeks ago or a weekago he had somebody who was
christian on his podcast andthat's the first time I've ever

(38:02):
seen like somebody who is anactual like.
In the description it sayschristian minister and I was
like whoa yeah, that's crazy.
That's cool though yeah, becausepeople are looking for
something, because obviouslythis trend that we're going is
not bringing anything that wewant.

Speaker 1 (38:22):
It's not helping anybody.
Well, even with music too, notjust podcasts and everything
else, but music.
Music is definitely not thesame as how it used to be too.
I think it's more promoting.

Speaker 2 (38:38):
You know the devil's side of what you want like money
, fame, women, whatever drugs,sex well, rock and roll kind of
did that.
Yeah, they were a little moretame with it.

Speaker 1 (38:43):
Yeah, it's a tame like nikki minaj right, it was
more subtle yeah, and now it'smore in your face right, and
that's the thing too is like Imean, these kids, like my niece
and nephew again, love them todeath, but the music they listen
to, that their school teachesthem and like lets them listen
to, is like, what the heck areyou guys doing?

(39:04):
Like it sounds dumb because I'mgonna sound like a boomer here,
even though I'm a millennial atthis point, but it's like
boomer stephan boomer stephanmoment here, but like they're
talking skibbity, toilet andeverything else what, what?
is that?
I don't know, that's no eitherI've heard it before and it just
doesn't make it's like whathappened to like music at that

(39:25):
point you know what I mean likewe're listening to skibbity
toilet versus like StephenCurtis Chapman music, like you
know, like for side note.
My favorite song by him is thegreat adventure it's called.
My dad used to play it when Iwas a baby and it would calm me
down when I was I was likehaving a fit, but it's a good
song that, stephen Kurt.
It's literally the journey of,like you know, preaching the

(39:47):
word to God and everything likethat and his journey through
christ and everything like that.
So it's like holy crap, likethat song is good and it's
catchy too.
I don't.
I'm not gonna lie, I am verypicky when it comes to christian
music because some of it justsounds like, oh god, like it was
in a recording booth, like in acloset or something like that
and it's like and I get it like,I'm not like saying it's trash,
but some of it for me is alittle cheesy.

(40:10):
Yeah, it's especially likechristian rock, like I don't
need christians who are tryingto be cool right, like I would
rather you be natural and doyour thing than try to be like
the next.
Like I don't know morgan wallen.

Speaker 2 (40:27):
Yeah, like I don't want like a christian motley
crew, right, because when youthink about it, they're still
being worldly.
They're trying to appeal to theworld by looking like the world
and you're supposed to not looklike the world right, you're
supposed to look like achristian?
yeah, and so when we're singingthese rock and roll songs, first
of all it's lame becausenobody's gonna, nobody wants to

(40:47):
hear I want to submit to, or Iwant to submit to authority,
right, like you're not going tosing that in a rock song no,
you're not, because rock musicis all about like going against
authority yeah, like you know.

Speaker 1 (40:58):
Uh, what is it?
We didn't start the fire?

Speaker 2 (41:01):
yeah, because the world was turned right exactly,
and it's just like people try tomimic that and make it
christian and then it's just youdon't need to be cool as a
Christian, just be Christian.

Speaker 1 (41:13):
Those people are trying to be the Kidz Bop of
everyday music Kidz.

Speaker 2 (41:18):
Bop needs to go man.
Are they still going?

Speaker 1 (41:21):
They are in their trash bro, what are?

Speaker 2 (41:23):
they on 87?
Something you should look it up.
What if it actually is 87?
That'd be funny.
That'd be funny, that'd be agood guess 87 what kids bop
album.

Speaker 1 (41:35):
Well, I guess, while I'm looking this up, do you have
any other input on like themusic or anything in general
with like christianity, wherepeople just need to be
themselves with it and not likego above and beyond, like to try
to fit in and be woke, I guessis the word for it yeah, I was
just gonna say on the christianradio it's the same way.

Speaker 2 (41:56):
It's just like all this pop sounding, sounds like
everything else that you hear onevery other radio, and I just
don't understand why.
What dude is it?
Is it 87?

Speaker 1 (42:09):
no, it says no internet.
It shows that stupid dinosaurthat says no internet oh, I
don't have wi-fi anymore.

Speaker 2 (42:15):
Oh, you don't no, oh, so you're gonna have to get off
because it I was too much kidsso now, whenever I have to use
wi-fi, I go to, like the cafe orthe library I mean that's not
bad, oh, oh, 2020.

Speaker 1 (42:29):
Oh, hold on Kidz Bop albums, there we go.
How many do they have?
Hurry up 74.
So close, yeah, I was notterrible 74.
Flip it around and make it 47and then add 40 and then I was
right Dude, yeah, no, it's crazy, dude kids, but but they, they

(42:54):
obviously change the words tomake it.

Speaker 2 (42:56):
They have not yet.
Well, yeah, I would hope.

Speaker 1 (42:58):
I wonder if they don't anymore though they know
they do it's it's still bad likeand they and they ruin some
good surprise.

Speaker 2 (43:05):
It's not like thems kid or thems bob at this point.

Speaker 1 (43:09):
Yeah, no kidding but yeah, no, like they'll take
morgan wallen songs likecowgirls or something and
literally make it about likecowgirls, like oh, we're at the
rate rodeo having a tall glassof apple juice and stuff like
that.

Speaker 2 (43:24):
It's like just shut up like that's weird, and it's
at 74, they don't.
They don't come out with oneevery year, do they?
It's got to be several.
There's no way they've beendoing that thing for 74 years.

Speaker 1 (43:36):
They know they haven't, yeah, they probably
haven't, but yeah, they probablyjust come out with a couple
every year or something likethat well, I just find out they
have like an old kids, bobcassette, like a vinyl record
like a vinyl record cassette.
Oh, that'd be so crazy man,they went real back in time at
that point or you see it like on, like a tablet of stone written

(43:57):
like caveman dude?
no, or what are those there was.
Who was it?
I think thomas edison made it.
It was like a phonograph whereit's like it's a thing of a
cylinder of wax and you you turnthe thing to get it started and
then you speak into themicrophone like what we're doing
, but it's like a megaphonelooking thing.

Speaker 2 (44:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (44:17):
And then the wax is scratched and it records, or
it's recorded with your voiceand then you can play it back.

Speaker 2 (44:24):
It's like yeah, how would they?
How would you ever figure thatout?
Don't know, that's just crazyto me.
Same with vinyl records the waythey have little bumps and
stuff like that's what makes thesound vinyl records are cool
though they are cool.

Speaker 1 (44:38):
I'm just saying it's very weird how it works yeah, I,
I like it, and then now it justblows my mind mind blown.
They got like weird stuff forvinyl records now too.
Like they got a little toything with like a scratch thing
at the bottom of it and it'slike a car with a speaker in it
and then it'll go around, it'lllike you turn it on and it spins

(45:00):
the vinyl record on theturntable and it plays the music
through that car speaker.
So it's like, oh, your car'sdriving down the road and then
you got like the little speakerthat comes out of it.
So it's like so if you don'thave like real vinyl record,
then it you get that and I thinkit's like a hundred bucks or
something.
But it's like it's really cheaptoo.
So I'd rather have a real vinylrecord at that point, like a,

(45:23):
not like a real old, old one,but like they, they make them,
they may sell them at fye yeah,they sell them everywhere.
Yeah, I can get them at walmartyeah, yeah, you can get them at
walmart for, like I think, 150bucks or something, and it comes
with bluetooth so you can playyour own music on it.

Speaker 2 (45:37):
I'm like that's not bad because where are you
talking about a vinyl player?

Speaker 1 (45:40):
yeah, vinyl, oh, I thought you're talking about the
vinyls.
I was like dude vinyls are not150, no, no no, no, like I know
vinyls are everywhere and stufflike that, but like a vinyl
player yeah yeah, this is whatthat little car was vinyl player
.
It had a little scratch needleon it and then you, it would
drive around the record and playthe music and stuff like that.
But yeah, no, the vinyl record,uh, actual um player itself is

(46:05):
like 150 or more, depending onhow fancy you want to get.
But I mean, yeah, that's aboutmy thought on it, straight far
away from the subject at thatpoint, getting into music and
stuff yeah, well, let's strayeven farther.

Speaker 2 (46:19):
Do you think the trump assassination was an
inside job?

Speaker 1 (46:22):
um, see, that's where I'm kind of torn, where I feel
like it's yes and no on that one.
Mainly no, though.
Um, from the way that, again,as you're piecing everything
together, it definitely whatlike okay, who's gonna take a
like a literal bullet like neartheir head and have it?

Speaker 2 (46:42):
no, I don't.

Speaker 1 (46:42):
I'm not saying he planned it oh, but like the
government like had an insidejob to like assassinate him or
something like that, becausethey don't like them.
Yeah, yeah, I think that atthat point, yeah, it's an inside
job, because there's no waythat kid was working alone.
No Well, did you hear, though,that in the body cam footage
which I have actual video of,because usually every time I see

(47:03):
some stuff I save it on myphone but one of the guys that
has the body cam, he's sittingthere saying they detained
somebody up in the water tower.
So there was another personinvolved with the shooting.
It's just that we don't knowtheir part and what they played.
And then there was alsoapparently a van with explosives

(47:25):
or something like that in ittoo.

Speaker 2 (47:26):
Yeah, but that was the kids.
That was Thomas Crook's carwith explosives, yeah.

Speaker 1 (47:31):
And not to be that guy, but he definitely brought
off like school shooter, vibesand yeah well, that's probably
why they picked him yeah that'swhy I think, because he just
looked like something, he lookedlike a societal loser.

Speaker 2 (47:45):
I wouldn't have called him a loser, yeah, but
I'm saying, like society woulddeem him as right, a loserish
kid yeah.

Speaker 1 (47:52):
And then I guarantee you that the government at that
point probably said somethinglike oh, you know, if you you
get this assassination, then youknow you'll go down in history
as a hero in our eyes and allthis other stuff and whatever,
because you know luminati andwhatever else.
But they also said too this isthe other part that I find weird
is that they um, they said thatthe roof was too steep to climb

(48:16):
up on because of the incline,but it's like okay, but you guys
are walking on it, totally fine.

Speaker 2 (48:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (48:22):
And then you can clearly see.
Even from far away you can seesomebody literally laying down
on that roof.
So it's not like you can't seebecause of how steep everything
is.
You can't just sit there andsay, oh well, have missed them,
you got around the corner.
No, like you can easily tellthat somebody was laying on

(48:44):
there.
They had a gun and the secretservice was warned about it well
in advance to where they couldhave taken the guy down or
detained him at that point?
Yeah, and they waited till thefirst amount of bullets were
flying to then do something.
So, yeah, I totally agree thatlike something had to have been

(49:05):
planned there.

Speaker 2 (49:06):
Now, do you think it's divine intervention that he
missed?

Speaker 1 (49:09):
Divine intervention being like with Christ, like God
.
Yeah, yeah, a hundred percent.

Speaker 2 (49:14):
I don't know why, but I I think that it was because
there's no way, because if hewould have moved his head to the
left or right even like amillimeter, they say yeah, then
he would have died and he wouldhave died yeah yeah so yeah, I,
I 100, that was divineintervention, like.

Speaker 1 (49:30):
And then two, it's like he's sitting there, he's
sticking up for everything.
That's right again like withgod too.
So what more motivation to dothe people need, because again
there's certain parties thatlike, they want the destruction,
they want the chaos, becausethen they can assume control and
everything else versus you know, giving the freedom back to
american people and how itshould bet, like how it should

(49:52):
be, like it's funny becausethere's republicans and
democrats that are part of theestablishment that don't like
him yeah, I I mean because mywhole thing at first was it
depends on the person and whattheir true intention and true
intentions are.
But then it's also which one doyou think you think God would

(50:14):
pick in that aspect?
Like in the way, okay, like howTrump he's doing a lot of good
and he's saying, like God savedme that day.
He even said it at the Trumprally.

Speaker 2 (50:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (50:27):
So it's like he's not afraid to come out and say God,
jesus, and we're going to makeAmerica have our Pledge of
Allegiance with god.
Bless america in it again andall this other stuff you know
yeah like he's not afraid to saythat, versus like most
politicians nowadays just arevery cautious, because if you
say, jesus, oh, you better watchyour back, because you're gonna

(50:50):
get a bullet in the back ofyour head or you're gonna which
is crazy that everybody gets somad about that, even though he's
not a real person.

Speaker 2 (50:59):
Right quotation marks .
I don't.

Speaker 1 (51:00):
I'm not saying that he's not a real person right
they're claiming that and theyget so mad at people for
mentioning it well, it's alsotoo like as another example of
that kind of crap too, wherethey're kind of mocking like god
and everything.
You get south park granted thatshow.
This is contradicting to me,like talking about it right now.
I think the show's funny.
Up to a certain degree it'sreally bad an adult.

(51:22):
But it's like whatever.
We're all grown-ups at thispoint and I'm sure there's
probably listeners here thatwatch south park still
regardless they better not be Idon't have sinners listening to
this not a single one.
But, um, yeah, like it's funny,because back in the day they
were, um, the creators of southpark made fun of uh, I think it

(51:42):
was muhammad or something andthe because you know how south
park is, they do parodies ofeverything yeah simpsons, family
guy, whatever yeah and theymade um, they were mocking
muhammad and the arabs andmuslims and everything like that
and they were getting deaththreats and had to have like

(52:03):
bodyguards around them almost 247 and go into like the witness
protection program, whatever.
And then you get where there'sobviously episodes mocking jesus
christ and there's one wherekyle, he's a jew, he had like
I'm not going to go into totaldetail, but basically christ
dies again and re-rises and it'sa whole thing about easter and

(52:25):
it's like it's it's offensiveand it's like, okay, but we're
not sending death threats to thecreators.
At that point you, but it'sokay, because it's Jesus, we can
mock him.
He's not real, is how they putit.
But the minute you make fun ofany other religion Buddhism,

(52:45):
muhammad, whatever, the giantspaghetti monster in the sky,
whatever you believe in, at thatpoint you better watch your
back.
So it's like that's where thedifference is between, like, the
peacefulness of certain youknow faiths and whatever.
And then you know where, rightnow, with that point where trump

(53:06):
again he can say god blessamerica proudly, and people are
just scared.
I think that's probably what itis.
People are just scared and sothey're like, oh, we'll mock him
whatever.
We're scared he ain't gonna donothing, he ain't real.
And then is, people are justscared and so they're like, oh,
we'll mock him.
Whatever, we're scared, heain't gonna do nothing, he ain't
real.
And then now people are findingout.

Speaker 2 (53:19):
You know what I mean they will hopefully not before
it's too late.

Speaker 1 (53:25):
But yeah, like there, there are people that it's like
.
You know you obviously needsome good saving.
I know a few people in my liferight now that need a good
saving for sure.

Speaker 2 (53:34):
Well, I think everybody does yeah.

Speaker 1 (53:36):
I mean everybody does , but I don't know Jimmy across
the street.
You know what I mean, Like Iknow you don't know, you got to
introduce yourself to Jimmy.
I live on Burton Street.
You can get shot every twoseconds If you just step outside
.

Speaker 2 (53:51):
I work on Burton Street.
I drive past Gable or.
Gale wood well, no, everybodyknows where you are.

Speaker 1 (54:00):
Fine, but it's not like I have a paparazzi outside
waiting for me when I get oh mygod, it's staff.
Yeah, so yeah, that's just thething, though, is people you
know, it's just depending onwhere you're at, and everything
like that too.

Speaker 2 (54:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (54:17):
So I would rather like I know the people that I
know, I would help them.
Granted, I would like to helpeverybody.
That's the kind of coming uplike I've gotten acquainted with

(54:46):
my next door neighbor and stufflike that.
Her name is carol, she's, she'ssweet, she's an older lady,
she's got a dog and everything.
But you know, know just her,having someone to talk to it
helps.
So you never know.
And again, it's like whoever Godputs in your life, so whether
it's an ex, whether it's acurrent girl, or whether it's a
guy friend, or whether it's likeyou know, even your parents

(55:07):
that like maybe you had a reallybad relationship with and you
need to rekindle, like that'sanother thing too, right there
there.
So you're there to helpeverybody out that you can, and
the more you spread the word andeverything, then I'm sure the
more people are obviously goingto get saved at that point yeah,
well, you have to spread theword, but you also have to live
the word yes, that can't justbecause there's, spread it and

(55:29):
do the exact opposite right solike um, I forget the guy's name
again.
It's been a minute since I'vejust sat down and read my bible,
but there was a scripture likeif you're struggling with like
porn or something like that, youknow there's a bible verse
where it's because we, we kindof like guys, you know we're
more visual and women are moremindful.

(55:51):
I guess, if you want to putemotional, emotional yeah and
there's I know there's ascripture in the bible that
talks about there's some guy whohe's.
He goes up to his balcony andhe sees another mistress and
she's like bathing and she'scompletely stephan, how could
you forget?

Speaker 2 (56:06):
that's david, is it david?
Yeah, that's like one of likethe biggest stories in the bible
.

Speaker 1 (56:12):
Well, I mean, I know it, but I'm not good with no,
you're on probation yep, I'm onprobation, but yeah, it's just
like you're struggling with thatand you read that verse and
then it's like how he got helpedthrough that, you know.
So you can kind of relate it tothat.
So well, he definitely did her.
Yeah, he did.
He messed up royally yeah butagain, it's like you don't want

(56:34):
to be that guy that likepreaches.
It's like what's his name?
the, the creepy, the creepypreacher kenneth copeland,
kenneth copeland yeah, wherehe's like yes, like the lord is
my savior and I bless everybodyhere.
And then he's like I bought ajet from tyler perry with the
offerings and god told me that Ineeded to buy it and everything
right.

Speaker 2 (56:53):
Yeah, just weird stuff like that.
There there was a KennethCopeland Bible in the lost and
found at our church Nope.

Speaker 1 (57:00):
Not touching that.
That would probably burn youalive.

Speaker 2 (57:04):
And I found it because my brother-in-law, whose
name is also Caleb, was likehey, your Bible's in the lost
and found and then I walked overthere and I was like no, it is
not.
And don't you ever say it was,yeah, but creepy.
Yeah, he really is.
But anyway, yeah, there's a lotof people, even just like

(57:26):
day-to-day people, not evennecessarily big preachers who
walk around and are give offthat like judgmental type, which
not I mean.
As a christian, you shoulddefinitely be stern with your
beliefs, yeah, but it seems likethe ones who are always super
judgmental about everybody arealways the ones that are like
have something going on andthey're just behind the scenes
that's quite the sin yeah, it isfor sure.

Speaker 1 (57:51):
I mean, I struggled with some stuff at you know, at
one point in my life, you know,being a young man in my early
20s.
You know sex before marriageand everything.
Wow, that I know.
I'm just coming out there.
Wow, it's part of my past andeverything so I'm not ashamed of
it because it's one of thosethings that you know it happened
and it's it's happeningeverywhere you go.

(58:12):
But my whole thing was sayingyou know you're supposed to save
sex before marriage.
And, yes, I made that mistake.
Granted, it wasn't by will, butit was more.
Some other stuff happened thatI won't say on the show.
That was what she did with me.
Yeah, not in that context ofthings, but like how it

(58:34):
initiated essentially.
Yeah, not in that context ofthings, but like how it
initiated essentially.
But yeah, that's more of atraumatization, I guess, for me
at that point.
But I've learned from there andthat's where I didn't make that
same mistake with Alicia, myex-fiance.
She never had a boyfriend oranything like that, never had

(58:54):
sex, and she was a strongbeliever in Christ.
christ went to church andeverything else and she she
honestly I would say probablyout of all three girlfriends
that I've had, she was probablythe most um into christ and
everything like that yeah andshe said that she wanted to save
because, yeah, we'd have ourmoments, like most couples do,
where we get close to stuff, andshe would be like, no, I want

(59:15):
to save because, yeah, we'd haveour moments, like most couples
do, where we get close to stuff,and she would be like, no, I
want to save myself, and wewould have talks about it too,
like, save myself before youknow, for marriage.
And then, that way, that nightis obviously meant for me and
you, and it's the right thing todo, because it says to do so in
the bible.
And so I, you know, at thatpoint I was like, okay, I'm not
going to push to push it.

(59:35):
And that temptation kept coming, though, and that's the devil
playing mind tricks on you atthat point.

Speaker 2 (59:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (59:40):
Because he's testing you, and even God can test you
too at that point.

Speaker 2 (59:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (59:44):
They're both capable and so, yeah, there'd be moments
where we would get close tothat, but we would both stop
ourselves at that point, andthere'd be times where she would
want to keep going and I wouldstop her and myself, and even if
I had to remove myself out ofher place, that's what I would
do.

Speaker 2 (01:00:02):
For some reason it always feels good when you're
like the guy and you say no.

Speaker 1 (01:00:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:00:07):
Because I had a couple when I was dating
somebody a while back.
It would be like there would bea lot of times where I would
put a stop to it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:15):
Yeah, somebody a while back.
It would be like there'd be alot of times where I would put a
stop to it.
Yeah, and that's what I thinkyou're supposed obviously you're
supposed well, yeah, I'm justsaying.

Speaker 2 (01:00:20):
It's like it seems like in today's world, even in
church, it's always like theguys are leading that and, yeah,
they're the ones that strugglewith sex the most.
So then it's like you kind offind out that that's not exactly
true yeah, it's not true allthe time it's common ground for
both genders yeah, because therewere.
There have been times where I'vequite a few times where it's

(01:00:41):
like I have to be the one to puta stop to it.
Yep, be like yo, I don't.
It's like we don't want this Imean like we do, but we don't
because we're not married right,and so I mean we're going with
cucumber mint today is thatburt's bees.

Speaker 1 (01:01:01):
Yeah, this podcast has been sponsored by burt's
bees.
I wish, but yeah, like that.
That is one thing that I didstruggle with at that point when
it came to that and I know thatwas a test at that point for

(01:01:23):
sure, because at the time atleast, before everything went to
crap, that was putting my faithand what God wanted me and her
to have in our relationship tothe test.
At that point he would keeppushing it and I'm sure the
devil obviously had some planinto it too is to keep pushing
it and keep letting thingshappen, to then eventually give
out.
You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:01:39):
And just yeah, it starts slow yeah like it's not
going to be like right away.
Oh, we got way too close.

Speaker 1 (01:01:46):
It's like each time you get a little bit closer and
closer until yeah eventuallyit's like, oh, this is nothing,
yeah, but then you loseeverything exactly at that point
, it doesn't become specialanymore, right, it's just a
casual friday night or whateveryeah, you're right though it is,
but you know what I mean.
Like yeah, so that's, you knowagain, and I even help people

(01:02:09):
with that too is like you know,my sister helped me out with
some stuff too with, you know,kelsey and Kylie, not so much
because she was younger at thatpoint, not Kylie, but my sister
was younger at that point.
So she didn't really she wasn'tin relationships right away yet
.
I forget how old she was.
But yeah, it's just, you getpeople that will even help you,

(01:02:30):
that God will put in your lifethat will like, hey, this
probably isn't a good idea, orhey, you, you know, do it, but
you're gonna learn the hard wayat that point yeah, so and I
think that's it.
I think everybody needs thathonestly, regardless of how
wealthy or how poor or whateverhow smart you are, yep, how
smart you are, how dumb you are.

(01:02:50):
Whatever how much arizona teayou drink or how much chapstick
you put on your lips, you knowsure, yeah, I could always use
more right chapstick but I meaneven, even too, with even
motivation to work out, orsomething like that too.
I mean, heck, I used to be abig boy at 285 have you been

(01:03:13):
working out consistently?
just mainly at work with likelifting work.
I'm trying to push myself toget the heavier parts, because
sometimes I'm not gonna lie I'llbe lazy last week it was brake
pads, this week I'm liftingrotors literally yeah, and I
would purposely do the rotorsbecause you know they can weigh

(01:03:34):
in variants of pounds like 20,30 pounds or even 40 or 50 yeah
depending on what kind of rotorsyou got.
And so I usually in the mornings, you know, you scan it, you get
done and then you're just likeI don't want to do that because
I'm already going to be sweatingand I'm going to ache and I'm
not going to want to do anythingelse.
But it's like that also helpsyou build that muscle.

(01:03:55):
So when you're picking it up,you're working your upper body,
you're stretching this out,you're tightening these up.

Speaker 2 (01:04:02):
And as long as you're going down correctly and using
your legs, you're working thoselegs too.

Speaker 1 (01:04:07):
And I noticed too ever since I've lost like the
over 40 pounds, is that my lowerback is not in as much pain as
it used to be, because, yeah,obviously, when your lower back
is like a really good strongpoint, but if you mess that up,
like good luck, so, cause I'vehad that too, where I've been so
big, like again, two, 85 wasthe max that I ever have gotten

(01:04:28):
in my life and I never want toexceed that number ever again or
get close to that number everagain.
Right now I'm currently 244.
So, yeah, decent amount ofweight loss there and, uh, yeah,
I can, I can lift up stuffwithout my back being in pain.
I used to be able to not getout of bed easily in the morning
and my feet, too, have felt alot.

(01:04:49):
Uh, they still hurt, but I canget out of bed easier without
limping as much.
So I know, with that dedicationand honestly, I feel like, even
when I listen to the podcast,like of other episodes you
previously have done, like justlistening to that and having the
word of God in my ear, as I'mlike lifting and moving and

(01:05:11):
climbing up ladders and crap andreaching over my shoulders for
stuff, that helps, yeah, withmotivation, and so god can do a
lot in your life too withmotivation and everything like
that when it comes to weightloss, whether it's like even
your special gift of like art,music, whatever you know, as
long as you let god into yourlife and you let him kind of

(01:05:32):
guide you at that point, you'regoing to succeed.
Yeah, so yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:05:38):
Next step is you should just start going on the
treadmill after work a coupledays.
What I need to do is start Well.
If you combine that with thejob, you'd probably lose more.

Speaker 1 (01:05:46):
I need to do sit-ups or something, because I still
got basically a FUPA at thispoint yes, but sit-ups I'm going
to get rid of, don't burn fat.
No at this point.
Yes, but setups I'm gonna getrid of.
Don't burn fat.
No, I need it to tighten or getrid of the gut a little bit.
I still got a gut, obviously,but it's not as bad as what it
used to be yeah yeah, it's notlike somebody else.
I know who's like 420 poundsright now, but yeah, and I mean

(01:06:09):
that with all like not mockery,mockery, but like I know him
personally, so I mean we alwaysmake fun.
But he is losing weight, thoughyou can see it in his face.
So and well good yeah, so he,he's starting to get better
about taking care of himselfmore.
And I'm like, dude, you need tobecause you have kids and a

(01:06:30):
fiance and I don't want to becarrying that casket because
it's going to be heavy and I'mgoing to break, be carrying that
casket because it's going to beheavy and I'm going to break my
, that's what you care about no,but you know what I mean.
I care for his personalwell-being and stuff, yeah, and
it seems like his depression hasgone um down a bit, so which
helps out too, becausedepression can be in uh, what's

(01:06:54):
the word for it?
Like, I guess, an additive toyour weight gain, you know,
because if you're depressed,like some people eat when
they're depressed, some peopledon't eat yeah.
Yeah, and the people that don'teat, they lose weight, and some
people that do, they gainweight, and this guy gains
weight.

Speaker 2 (01:07:10):
Well, depression is a hard one because it's really
hard to get rid of, but alsoeasy, if that makes sense.
Yeah, because a lot of timesit's brought on from trauma,
that or not getting outside.

Speaker 1 (01:07:27):
Like.

Speaker 2 (01:07:27):
I remember I used to have depression and then I
started exercising more, goingoutside, eating healthier, and
now I don't really ever strugglewith it at all anymore I still
have depression to a degree.

Speaker 1 (01:07:40):
It's not as bad as what it used to be.
I'll tell you that much back inthe day and I'll just.
I'll just say it as is rightnow.
Back in the day I had thoughtsof suicide and it was really bad
, um, and there came a couplemoments where I had attempted it
and it was again really bad.
But I know, throughout theyears, Stefan, I never knew

(01:08:00):
about this.
Yeah, it was it was back whenKylie, my first girlfriend with
her.

Speaker 2 (01:08:07):
Yeah, I'm trying to think of how old I was during
that time.

Speaker 1 (01:08:11):
I was 23 when I was dating her, so I would have been
22.

Speaker 2 (01:08:15):
Yeah, I don't think we were really like hanging out
during that phase of life,whatever reason.

Speaker 1 (01:08:19):
No, I think part of it was just, I think, because me
and her were dating, so I wasmore focused on her at that
point and trying to get to knowher.

Speaker 2 (01:08:27):
Yeah, it was back in the days where, when you get a
girlfriend, not you but anybody,just anybody.
Yeah, anybody gets a girlfriend.
It's like you spend all yourtime with them, yep, and now,
when you get older, you realizethat's not really the way to do
it.

Speaker 1 (01:08:40):
Yeah, and you want to have that equality and you want
to have that time where you canhave time to yourself, she can
have time to herself, time withyour friends, time with friends,
family, whichever.
So I mean, heck, when I datedAlicia and even Kelsey, I made
it very well aware to them thatSundays are my family day.
So if we don't get to see eachother on Sunday, because she

(01:09:02):
would do the same thing, aliciawould, kelsey, I don't, she had
a bad thing with her parents, soshe was just bored, she went to
church and then she went homeand just sat around and did
nothing.
But alicia, she would go seeher parents and I would go see
mine, or there'd be days where Igo see my folks for a couple
hours and then I go see herfolks for a couple hours, and

(01:09:24):
then it would switch to where.
Then she would see her folksfor a couple hours, then she'd
come see mine, we all hang out,have a good time.
You know what I mean, yeah, andthen we just go back to work on
monday like everything wasnormal.
So you know you, you need tohave that common ground too in
that.
So because, yeah, you're goingto get sick and tired of each
other.
If you're around each other 24,7, like that right ridiculous

(01:09:46):
because if your intentions areobviously marrying, you're
already going to be with themevery day of the week.
So, yeah, you get that workperiod where, yeah, work may be
stressful but it's a little bitof a break.
And then you come, you get thatwork period where, yeah, work
may be stressful but it's alittle bit of a break.
And then you come home you getlike a nice home-cooked meal or
just watching a movie orsomething like that, like hot
butter and popcorn, you know,like something.
But yeah, it's just littlemoments like that.

(01:10:10):
But I mean again, god will putsomebody in your life too,
whether male, female, you knowwhichever friend relationship,
even just an acquaintanceship,or just a customer at a store.
You know some rando that comesup to you in the peanut butter
section and goes, hey man, how'sit going?
And he just talks to you onwhatever, and there's just
something different about himand it's like you just talk and

(01:10:31):
everything's all good.
You know what's?

Speaker 2 (01:10:34):
that noise what talk and everything's all good.
You know what's that noise?

Speaker 1 (01:10:39):
what noise?
Maybe I'm just hearingsomething.

Speaker 2 (01:10:40):
I don't hear anything yeah, I thought the camera shut
off, but it's still going no,it's still going.

Speaker 1 (01:10:44):
There's a light.
I don't know what I'm hearing,then maybe I'm just going gone
crazy, maybe I'm just goingcrazy, gone senile.
But but yeah, I guess is thereanything else that you want to
talk or ask or anything.

Speaker 2 (01:10:59):
Not really.

Speaker 1 (01:11:00):
No.

Speaker 2 (01:11:00):
We're at about an hour and ten minutes yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:11:04):
I don't have any other input.
I think we pretty much talkedabout the current state of
America, went off topic aboutkids, bopping and everything
else.

Speaker 2 (01:11:11):
Yeah, we talked about it all.
Another episode of just talking, yeah, which is fine.
I mean, yeah, you're like thefun guest I'm the fun guest, fun
guest so anyway, everybody,thanks for listening.
Yes, thank you, and don'tforget to have a blessed week.
Bye.