030: The Paranormal Puzzle: Aliens, Demons, and Conspiracy Theories Explored. With Stefan Hansen

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
stefan, how are you?
I am great.
Caleb, how are you doing?

Speaker 2 (00:04):
I'm good since that was like the, the same start of,
like the old podcast that weused to do.
Right, it was like identical.
Since this is october, I'm justgoing to start this one off
with what are your thoughts onhalloween?

Speaker 1 (00:21):
my thoughts on halloween.
In my opinion at least, how Iwas taught from mainly my dad
was that halloween was more ofthe devil's holiday because it's
you're.
You're dressing up like granted, like captain america, is not
like celebrating the devil'sholiday, but like if you're

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dressing up and doing likedemonic things, like there's
some people that dress up aslike a demon or satan or they're
trying to like like some peoplego as jesus and they're mocking
him and stuff like that in away because, like, they're
getting drunk or they're doingwhatever, and it's more of a

(01:02):
mockery at that point towardsGod and that's why they call it
the devil's holiday.
And then it's also too, there'ssome stuff that actually happens
on Halloween too that are veryyou could call it satanic at
that point, but it's really dark, some people.
What my dad taught us, not askids at this point, but when we

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got older, is that he said, likethere was a girl he knew I
think it was my sister who Idon't consider my sister.
Um, she was a witch and intothe whole satanism thing.
Yeah, and I again, I don't keepup on her because I don't
consider her, she's just astranger to me at this point.
She's someone that I know, butshe not her personally.

(01:50):
But she knew people that woulddo sacrificial crap, whether
it's a lamb where they do thesacred sword or knife thing or
whatever.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
So that's where it takes like.
It takes halloween to a wholenother level, like and the media
and society in general and Ihate using the word society, but
they use it in a like oh, it'sfun for the kids, they're gonna
get candy, they're gonna dressup as sonic the hedgehog or
whatever they want to dress upas and trick or treat.
But yet there's also people toothat put like razors in the

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candy and all that other crap,so they have their own agenda.
So it's not a holiday really tobe celebrating in the christian
viewpoint yeah, I think, Ithink.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
For me it's more like a celebration of fall yeah
that's where, that's the waylike I think of it.
But yeah, dressing up as longas it's not something bad.
What is that buzzing noise?

Speaker 1 (02:49):
yeah, now it's gone I don't hear.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
Let me try turning my mic back up again yeah, I don't
hear it anymore okay, yeah, Ithink it was because it was like
by the power cord yeah okay,cool so I'll probably just edit
that out.
Yeah, that's fine.
Um, so back to celebratehalloween.
Yeah, I think like for the mostpart, halloween is probably not

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the best thing to celebrate asa christian right um, you know,
like I don't think that it's bad.
Well, here's the thing isjack-o'-lanterns are supposed to
keep bad spirits away whichsounds.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
I didn't know, I know right, it's kind of like a
dream catcher uh, like, you know, like how dream catcher, yeah,
you know how well, it's not anative american thing.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
But dream catchers are.
But yeah, jack liners are arenot.
But you know how, like with adream catcher, you would use it
so that it catches bad dreams atnight.
Yeah, now that sounds good onpaper, but obviously it is still
an evil practice because we'renot supposed to put our faith
right in a pumpkin.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
Yeah, exactly or anything other than jesus.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
So it's like should we still carve pumpkins, even if
it's just for fun, like ifwe're not, if?

Speaker 1 (04:02):
we're not thinking in the in the presence of like.
Again, what you're saying islike relying it as a dream
catcher per se, like oh, makesure the demonic spirits don't
come near me, that kind of thing.
That's kind of like a weirdgray line area, I feel like
cause it's like if it's stillwrong in the eyes of the Lord,
then it's like probablyshouldn't do it.

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We're all guilty of sin, thoughat the same time yeah, I mean.
That doesn't mean we want tointentionally do it right,
because there's some people andI'm not gonna lie, there's some
things that I do still, whereit's like, um, like I view as
well, it's not as bad as I couldbe doing this kind of
perspective yeah, I thinkeverybody has those moments yeah

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, so, and that's how I kind ofview the you know pumpkin
carving kind of thing.
It's just I don't know why youjust looked at me I was like I
know, I know there's a laughcoming, but yeah, it's just in
that viewpoint of things.
It's like sure, yeah, if you'redoing it for fun, whatever you
do, you boo boo.
But like, if you're doing itfor like satan is lord, like

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then it's like right then that'sfine.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
But at the same time it's like should we ever own a
dream catcher, even if we justthink that it looks cool?
Because, even if we just thinkthat it looks cool, it's like
what if we want to own devilhorns just because they look
cool?

Speaker 1 (05:26):
yeah, oh yeah.
That dream catcher made of uh,twigs and yarn is really gonna
get you from a demonic uh youknow presence coming in your
house.
If it were that easy to get ridof a demonic presence, I think
the amityville horror oranything like that would not
happen to this day.
No haunting would ever exist,ghostbusters would not exist
okay, our haunted house is areal thing.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
Do you think so?

Speaker 1 (05:48):
uh, I think the perspective of not like a ghost
as people say, I think it's moreagain of a demonic presence
that makes you because that'show these demons play games they
, they make, because of howeverybody and their imagination
and everything like that I canbelieve.
Some of it's a lot of combo,things Like you could just like

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go into like my house and sayit's haunted.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
And then with your imagination because we all have
one if you're a sane human being, then you're going to be like,
oh crap, I'm going to look for,like you know, shadows on the
wall or wall or the lightflickering or something stupid
like that.
But if you're also in thatperspective of in a spiritual
connection, where it's like youhave faith in the Lord and

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somebody says it's haunted andyou're actually seeing these
things, it's 100%, regardless onyour viewpoint, demonic 100%.
It's not your dead uncle thatcame back because you owe him 20
bucks and he's haunting you,scratching walls.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
It's literally a demonic person Coming back for
the 20 bucks.
Huh.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
Actually funny story.
So my dad, and he swears thisis true because this is when he
was at a point in his life wherehe just did not care about
christ or anything like that.
Yeah, and he, he knew, like heexisted, you know, but he just
didn't care and he had a lot ofstuff going on.
And so what happened was is,one night he was I I forget how

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old he was, I think he wasprobably in his 20s or something
like that and he, um, he, hewas sleeping in bed and he was
at home by himself and all of asudden he saw this figure appear
in front of him and it was his,I think.
He said it was his dad, earnest, my grandfather, who I never

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met because he drowned, but likehe, I know just slight details
hidden in there, yeah, but Imean he did.
He actually drowned in aboating accident and so like he
was paralyzed from the waistdown earnest is also the name of
somebody who definitely comesback.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
That's true.
That's a joke.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
I don't believe in ghosts I ain't afraid of no
ghost, no, um.
So, aside from that, moving on,joke we, so he, he, he was
laying in bed.
This figure appeared out oflike nowhere and he says, swear

(08:18):
to god on the bible.
Like he was um, levitated, likehe, just he was stiff your dad
was.
Yeah, he would believe himhere's the thing, though,
because a lot of stuff here.
Here's the thing with when youcome to that point where maybe
god wants you in a differentposition, I don't think he's

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gonna like lift you up in theair and be like it's me, you
know, but like he's gonna dostuff that's gonna make him like
more present.
Like whether it's like okay, Iwant money and then you get
money, but then it's like, okay,he may just take it away from
you because you're not learninghow to either use your money

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wisely or you're not like usingit the correct way or honoring
him with the blessing.
So it's.
It's more of like I can andcan't believe him, because he
also did a lot ofhallucinogenics back then.
But he was also at a point whenhe said that he was.

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When he saw the figure of hisdad.
He was not on thehallucinogenics like he had
cleaned himself up and stufflike that, because that's just
how it was back then.
You could get any kind of drugknown to man pretty much.
So he was levitated out of hisbed and brought face to face
with his dad and his.

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His dad apparently spoke to himand he said that you will have
some events happen in your lifeand one of them is your aunt or
his sister, I guess, or whateverthat is just is going to die
within the next like two months.

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And the creepy part was that,whatever date and time frame
that that entity or demonicpresence had told him that this
person's going to die.
They actually died on the exactdate and time and place and it
happened, think, two or threetimes, because in that whole

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interaction it told him this iswhat's happening.
And so again, it's not justCasper the friendly ghost coming
up to you and telling you this,it's a demonic presence and the
devil's trying to make himselfknown to hey, if you don't
worship me at that point it'slike a threat almost.

(10:46):
I guess is how I look at itthrough like demonic president
or presidents, demonic presenceof, like ghosts and haunted
stuff.
Is that it's the devil leadingfor fear, like, okay, I'm
obviously going to make myselfmore well known than jesus, you
know.
So I'm going to scare the crapout of you and I'm gonna possess
you and you're gonna know thatI'm real so it's not actually

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your dad seeing his dad, it'syour dad encountering a demon a
demon impersonating his dad andmy question is is how would the
demon per se know when and howthis person is going to die?
Well, I mean, it is the spawn ofSatan to a degree, but Well,

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they're fallen angels.
Yeah, they're fallen angels.
So I would assume with that youknow, in hell or heaven,
everybody knows the times ofevents and deaths and being born
or whatever what's going tohappen to you.
In a way, they know thisbecause they know at the end,

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when the rapture happens to,they're going to know who's
going to be on God's side andthere's going to be people that
are unfortunately going to beburning in hell for all eternity
.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
Until that, stuff and Hanson saying it like it is,
I'm just saying it's in reality,you know, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
It's, it's, it's like that, so it's that demonic
entity coming in as again afamiliar face or whatever, and
they're, they're all knowing,and so that's how that ended up
happening, and so that's when Ithink god is really the only one
that's all knowing he is yes,but I still feel like in but

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that's still freaky.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
If what your dad is saying is true, yeah, of course
there's no way for me to know.

Speaker 1 (12:35):
Right, I'm just taking his word on it right now,
but right.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
Same with you, but I don't ever take him as a liar,
so I don't ever take him as aliar, so, but if that actually
happened, that is pretty freakyright, like I know one thing
that happened to me that I canguarantee you was a demonic
presence.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
Oh, so you remember Penn street, that one house.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
Do I ever?

Speaker 1 (12:58):
Yeah, that place.
So context a little bit.
This house was built in likethe 1800s or something like that
, or 1700s, so it was old butsomewhat modified to modern day
kind of structure, I guess,other than the iron octopus
furnace that we had downstairs.
But I was old enough to stay athome by myself.

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One night, my baby sister, shegave my mom a paper, cut in the
eye or near the eye or somethinglike that, and so I was old
enough, though, to stay at homeby myself.
And this is folks.
This is going to be like howold I am, and some of you may be
at this age, I know, you know,but MySpace was a thing.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
Yes, it was.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
And Facebook, I think was just coming in.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
Yeah, MySpace and Zynga were the first.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
Yes, it was, and Facebook, I think, was just
coming in.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
Yeah, MySpace and Zanga were the first social
media.
Man that is crazy that youbrought up MySpace.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
Yeah, I know dude Talk out scary.
Yeah, what was his name?
Tom would always send you afriend request.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
Yeah, Tom the creator .

Speaker 1 (14:02):
This dumb guy with a clipboard or whatever it was a
white board just staring intothe camera.
But anyhow, what happened wasis, um, I was at home and I was
updating my myspace, listeningto music, because everybody when
they were a teenager back inlike the early 2000s, listened
to green day.
So I was listening to green dayor whatever, updating my stuff.

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And this is the creepiest part,because I was at home because
everybody else left to go to thehospital see if mom was okay,
because obviously I wasn't oldenough to.
For some reason, I was oldenough to stay at home by myself
and not watch my baby sister ormy brother, who was pretty much
like he was only like two yearsyounger than me.
So, yeah, whatever, but hewanted to go.

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So I was at home and all of asudden, what I heard?

Speaker 2 (14:51):
this, this still terrifies me oh man, I gotta
sleep here tonight by myself.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
I'm scared so it was upstairs, so the computer, mind
you, was right by the stairs, sowe had our living room TV's
right here.
Stairs are right where theArizona T is and, for those of
you who can't see, it's in thecenter of where my microphone is
, and then to the right is thecomputer, directly next door.

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So I'm sitting there just doingstuff and out of nowhere, right
, I hear like like heavy bootprints upstairs, like somebody,
because we had one of thoseroofs too that you could, like
you could climb up to and climbon that flat part or whatever of

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like the awning or whatever youcall it on a house.
And then all of a sudden Iheard like that, and then it was
just like one of those, like ina typical horror movie.
You hear like a reverse scream,like if, if a girl was
screaming, and then you reversethe audio and it was like yeah
like that.
It was like that, and then allof a sudden, right next to me, I

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heard a big boom, like a thud,like somebody had gotten pushed
down the stairs from the verytop and landed right next to me.
And at that point this was also.
The other part that terrifiedme is that there was, like the
we had the porch door and thenwe had the main door to the
house, because in order to getin the house you had to go
through the porch yep, Iremember.

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And the main door was swingingopen and closing like crazy, and
then, like some of the lightswere like flickering in the
living room where that eventhappened, and then I heard the
boots like like comingdownstairs, like he was like
getting ready to do something orwhatever.
And I and again, how old I am,landline phone, mind you,

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because cell phones, I think,were just coming out to be okay,
but like they weren't thegreatest.
So we had a landline phone,fully charged, and I grabbed sam
, our golden retriever.
I grabbed her food, dish andwater that were right next door.
I grabbed the landline and myroom was right next to the
computer and I locked myself inmy room with sam, with the food

(17:10):
and water and I sam is your dogsam yeah, sam's a dog and I
locked myself in my room until Iknew that mom and annika and
john were all coming home and Icalled them because my mom had a
cell phone.
It was like a little MotorolaRazr or whatever yeah right.
And I was like Mom, you've gotto get home quick or send

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somebody over here right nowbecause I'm scared.
And she goes Well, what's wrong?
And I'm like, well, I heardthis happening.
And she was like, you know,probably just your imagination.
You know typical horror movie.
Like, you know, I, probablyjust your imagination.
You know typical horror movie,like, oh, the kids just got a
really great imagination andthen it ends up being something

(17:53):
like terrifying.
But yeah, that was, I guess youcould say, my one encounter
with a, uh, paranormal activityof some kind.
But really it was a demonicpresence, I think, trying to
scare me because, you know, youget a young teen and they're
still at that point where theydon't know who they are or what
they want to do or believe in tosome extent, and then that
happened and that was terrifying, mind you, this was before the

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movie Paranormal Activity cameout too.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
Yeah, which was a very real movie.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
Yeah, absolutely Same with the Blair Witch Project
Right, project right, but yeah,that was.
That was terrifying to me.
So I believe that was 100percent demonic, because to me
it felt like somebody in thathouse and I think we did
research on it I think somebodyat that house um, murdered, uh,

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their wife there, or somethinglike that, back in whatever time
period it was, and the husbandhad pushed down the wife or
whoever it was it was a girl,obviously and a guy and pushed
her down the stairs and thenjust I don't know after that.
So it was like holy crap,that's terrifying.

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It would have been different ifit was a thud, because then I
could be like, okay, it was myholy crap, like that's
terrifying.
And especially, it would havebeen different if it was a thud,
because then I could be like,okay, it was my imagination,
yeah, but the doorsunnecessarily swinging, open and
close, slamming, with lightsflickering, that's terrifying.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
Was it windy out?

Speaker 1 (19:20):
No, that's the thing.
It was just like it was, Ithink at I know it was at
nighttime, but I thing it wasjust like it was, I think at I
know it was at night time, but Ithink it was like maybe like
seven o'clock somewhere aroundthere.
It wasn't like total like dark,like oh, I gotta go to bed,
it's almost 8, 30, you know thatkind of thing, but that it was
around that nighttime period andit wasn't that late, and so

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because I knew to be in bed by acertain time, yeah but I did
not sleep that night, I can tellyou that much, and so that was
my one encounter.
I don't know if I I can'tremember if I had any other ones
, but I know for a fact that onewas the one right there that
was the most terrifying, and I100 agreed that it was demonic,

(20:03):
because I don't think god senthis angels down to just be like
hey, yeah, angels, don't come tocause fear no although they are
pretty weird looking when youwhen they're described in the
bible, but they always come likewhat?
like an eyeball with like 30wings and it's like got like all
eyeballs on each wing orsomething like that yeah, it is
weird.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
But they also say they also show themselves and
say do not be afraid, right, andthey probably say that for a
reason, because they know theylook weird right, but also if I
saw that thing flying around andthey were like, do not fear me
I would fear it.
Yeah, I would fear.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
I'm not going to sit there and just be like if the
Chupacabra was real or Bigfootand be like, oh, you know, it's
like ooga booga.
And then I'm like, oh okay, Idon't fear you anymore because
you said a funny word in Englishor something stupid like that.

Speaker 2 (20:55):
Yeah, but I think that if yeah, there's no way it
was an angel in your house.
Yeah, no, it was most likelybecause angels yeah, angels are
there to protect.

Speaker 1 (21:04):
Yeah, they're to help guide you even, too, and so,
like how I looked at it is like,when you have this is how I
view like nightmares versus likegood dreams and stuff is every
day, these angels are, and it'snot in a bad way, but like they
are protecting you and they'reunder attack by demons and
they're blocking them fromtrying to like cause harm to you

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per se.
So, like, if you havenightmares, like those angels
are trying to fend off thedemons that are like trying to
come at you per se, like they'rethey're watching around you
because if anything happens inthe house, like you're under
god's protection at that point,yeah, and so that's how I kind
of use it, at least in thespiritual sense.
Yeah, yeah, in the spiritualsense.
So I view it like that.

(21:48):
I haven't had a nightmare in aminute.
But I will say it is adifferent experience when it's
like for me I know that I haveGod's protection, even though I
have my own protection at hometo help, like if I'm watching
the kids or if I'm just bymyself, like I have that calming

(22:08):
sense that I didn't have before, like when that stuff was
happening at penn street, thatI'm under god's protection.
Yeah, you know, and so itbrings a calmness.
So then it's like I don'treally even need that.
I feel like, sure, I'm not goingto say I'm just going to put it
away in the safe real quick,you know, and just not trust
that somebody is going to breakin the house.

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But it's more of like I can atleast sleep, knowing that I'm
under God's protection and ifsomething does happen, that I'll
be at least be given a warningof some kind, like whether it's
like I wake up to go pee or Ijust wake up because I'm hungry
and then, oh shoot, somebody'sbreaking in, and then it's like
all right, cool, so that musthave been god's sign and the

(22:50):
angels like letting me know hey,get up, you know like so that's
at least how I I view that kindof like the whole ghost and
hauntings and stuff like that,because there's no way that,
like someone from like 1684,like during the Black Plague or

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whatever time period that was,is still roaming in purgatory at
this point.
And they're just messing withhumans because, ooh, you have
modern day technology and I'mstill trapped in the 1600s where
we poop in a bucket and dump itout a window like wow, like an

(23:32):
18th century limerick orsomething like that yeah, no,
yeah, I don't think that it's aghost from somebody who because
once you die you, you die andyour soul goes wherever you
decided you wanted it to go,whether it's heaven or hell at
that point there is no inbetween yeah, there's not like
they're not roaming this earthto haunt us.

Speaker 2 (23:51):
It was.
It's demonic activity for sureexactly because the devil does
cause fear, which is scary.
Those stories were scary stuffand you did not wrong, but
there's gonna be scary storiestoday there are and I do know a
few, so in a couple conspiracytheories as well oh, what a
transition to what convenienttiming.

(24:13):
What convenient time is speaking?
Well, you did mention it,though, bigfoot.
What do you think?
I mean, I think we talked aboutthis a little bit in another
episode, way back yeah I thinkit was like two episodes ago of
you, yeah, so like we have oneepisode that you were on, but
then the one before that we were, we dived a little bit into big

(24:35):
fella.
What do you think bigfoot is?

Speaker 1 (24:38):
I think he's one of the scariest monsters known to
man, next to bigfoot, first ofall.
Well, um, I had to throw thatin there I had.
Yeah, I know, oh, I know, see,okay, so here's my opinion about
bigfoot.
All right, I don't think.
He's just some hairy guy whoforgot to get a haircut at

(24:58):
sports clips and was like, ohman, I'm just gonna live in the
woods.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
I think he is.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
His real name is Hugo he's just misunderstood?
No, I think, because they'restill discovering creatures.
And hear me out before you'rejust like oh, they're still
going to discover Bigfoot, butso they're still discovering
creatures in the ocean andthey're still discovering
creatures on land.

(25:24):
I was going to say so,bigfoot's in the ocean and
they're still discoveringcreatures on land.

Speaker 2 (25:26):
I'm gonna say so, bigfoot's in the ocean.
But you're finished.

Speaker 1 (25:29):
He's swimming with the fishes.
He's swimming with themegalodon and that's another one
too is like people stillbelieve that thing still exists.

Speaker 2 (25:37):
I think the megalodon could still exist yeah, well,
we haven't even discovered whatis it.
Is it 70 of the ocean, or is it?

Speaker 1 (25:44):
we've only, I think, been through 30 of the ocean, so
there's still a whole 70 we donot know anything about yeah
like james cameron's been theonly one to go to so far.
What we know of is the deepestpart of the ocean which is where
the titanic is no, titanic isactually.
He's been down there too, right?
Yeah, he he's, yeah he's.

(26:06):
He made the movie titanic yeahhe did the actual footage,
recordings of the shipwreck andother stuff like that so what is
the deepest part that we knowof the mariana trench?
oh, it's a nemo, that one's,yeah, that one.
So titanic is two and a halfmiles under the sea and the

(26:27):
Mariana Trench, I believe, is Ithink it's like six plus miles
or ten plus miles.
It's deep.
There's a shipwreck I know, Ithink it's a Japanese or German
Navy vessel, I believe, and thatthing is like way down in the

(26:50):
depths of the ocean.
I forget how deep it is, but itis way, way, way, way deeper
than any shipwreck everdiscovered.
Like it's got a world record ofhow deep it is and so that
technically is like the deepestpart of the ocean, but I think
it's not as deep as the Marianatrench.
But the Mariana trench justgoes on forever and James
Cameron, I think, has been theonly one so far to be able to

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make a submarine that doesn'timplode, with duct tape that can
go down there and survive thatpressure.

Speaker 2 (27:21):
I just I know the reference the Titan, the Titan
Did you know too.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
Side note, they showed unreleased footage of how
they found it.
It was only, I think, a fewhundred feet away from the
actual Titanic wreck, and so theimplosion didn't crunch them
like they thought.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
It actually sandwiched them, that's just as
bad, I know it is.

Speaker 1 (27:44):
It's just as bad, because there's the dome of
titanium, and then there's theother dome of titanium over here
, and then there's the carbonfiber hull.
And here's the dumbest part too.
Other than the fact it was madewith a Logitech controller to
control this thing down there,it was sealed with glue hey

(28:09):
titanic trip on a budget, bro,you gotta yeah, for billionaires
, like you would think.
If you're paying the, the, thewhole um trip sheet literally
said you cannot sue us if youdie.
Literally put that in thecontract like you can't come
after us, like you may die onthis trip.

(28:29):
But yet several or fivebillionaires were stupid enough
to go down in this thing andthen done.
I feel bad for the kid, don'tbe wrong, I feel like I feel bad
.

Speaker 2 (28:43):
The, the ceo, knew exactly you don't feel bad for
the guys here's the thing theywere rich and snooty and well,
do you know that they weresnooty?

Speaker 1 (28:51):
yes, they were rich and snooty.
They were over zealous abouttheir whole.
I have money and the kid didn'teven want to go.
The kid that died didn't evenwant to go but his dad insisted
because it was a once in alifetime thing and it would be a
nice father son bonding andyeah, they bonded with the

(29:14):
submarine all right in alifetime literally yeah,
literally yolo, yeah, that oldcatchphrase, um.
But yeah, they showed unreunreleased footage from whoever
took it, when they went downthere to explore the wreck.
And the tail fin was likeperfectly intact.
But obviously that wasn'tpressurized and that's kind of

(29:35):
like how, when the Titanic sank,so the bow was filled with
water.
Water can't pressurize reallyif it's filled with water, so
that's why the bow was in suchgood condition and the stern
imploded.
So it basically did what thesubmarine did, but like 10 times
worse because it's a shipversus a submarine, and so
that's why it's almost dangerousto go down near the stern

(29:55):
section, because everything isfalling apart.
I'll shut up about Titanic fora second.

Speaker 2 (29:59):
Anyway, I was going to say just be.
Just because somebody is snootydoesn't mean that they're no
more deserving of that.
Us to die, and I need you torepent on air no, I, I'd not say
, I'd not say.

Speaker 1 (30:16):
I know you're saying yeah, yeah, it's just like, okay
, if you're gonna be rich andsnooty, like, and then something
happens like that's on, that'son you bud like that's not on me
yeah, there's a lot betteroption that they could have
taken exactly however, we didget sidetracked with the ocean,
which is great.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
There's the ps5 controller joke once again it
was like any any is so big foot,it will not yes, it will not be
the last time we heard the ps5controller joke.

Speaker 1 (30:44):
It will come back up later or titanic or titanic I at
least have one uh conspiracytheory on that yes, but right
now we're on the big, the bigfoot who's not in the ocean?

Speaker 2 (30:55):
he's not he's on dry land, he's on dry land and xbox
you with a ps5 with a ps5 butbigfoot, you're saying, you were
also saying that there's partsof land that you think that we
haven't discovered yeah, sothey've.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
Actually I.
There was one episode that on anational geographic or like an
animal planet kind of show wherethey discovered a bird that
they thought had gone it's notthe dodo or anything like that
or like the animal planet kindof show, where they discovered a
bird that they thought had goneit's not the dodo or anything
like that or like the blue birdfrom like rio, that one pixar
disney movie or whatever.
Yeah, like, because thatthing's extinct apparently.
Now, um, but there's some kindof bird that they thought was

(31:38):
extinct and then all of a suddenit's like they're all in the
trees, like there's thousandsupon thousands of them, and it's
like okay.
So I again this is where I'mkind of in a gray line area
about Bigfoot existing.
I don't think like a humanoidcreature is just chilling in the
middle of the woods, regardless, if he's got like the same

(32:02):
brain capacity as like an apethat you see at the zoo, yeah.
If he's got like the same braincapacity as like an ape that
you see at the zoo, yeah.
Or even as a more complex mindlike me and you, where we have
like we're we're lingual, Iguess, is I think that's the
word like we can speak wordslike we have more linguality.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
I don't know, I don't know what speak languages yes,
we can speak languages.

Speaker 1 (32:26):
Bigfoot's probably smarter than me at this point
because he can probably come upwith better words for it.
But yeah, I think there theremight be something that maybe
resembles it a bit, like maybeanother species of like ape in
america yeah, I think so.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
I think you never know I don't want to be hiking
out in the woods, you know whenthere's apes out there well,
just think of it as like tarzanmoment.
All right, like you're gonna beraised by this ape and then can
you imagine being kidnapped bybigfoot, and then him and his
like just adopting you and likeraising you in the jungle is one
of his own, or something?

Speaker 1 (33:03):
yeah, that'd be dude, it would be terrifying, but
it's also like hilarious tothink about too, because you
know it's bigfoot you know right, it is funny to think about.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
But where were we?

Speaker 1 (33:17):
yeah, apes in america yeah, I mean there's a bunch of
creatures in america are likedistinctive, like per state or
per country, you know, like thestate bird or the state bear or
whatever, or like there's justcertain animals that like live
in a particular part of theworld, like giraffes are like,

(33:39):
as far as I know, just in AfricaI think.
I don't think they're likemichigan, just naturally
chilling, you know.
Same with elephants, like Iknow there's like india and
everything like else that theyhave that stuff.
But again you don't seeanything like that.
so there might be somethingagain exclusive exclusive to us

(33:59):
in the united states andwhatever, because I mean I know
like up north they're like ohthe yeti, but that's basically
like a white bigfoot yeah, noteven basically.
That's what it is, yeah, yeahand then there's like where,
okay again I think in a way likemaybe okay, here's the other
dumb thing.
So like how there's always likeexperiments with like monkeys

(34:20):
and stuff in labs, like we allknow that like they they're
testing product or they'retesting like medicine, if you
know, let's just sayhypothetically there was a
monkey or an orangutan orsomething like that, or a
silverback gorilla that just wasbeing tested on for eyeliner or

(34:43):
something like that, or justsome kind of cure.
Let's just say, let's justrelate it to modern day, like a
cure for covid or something likethat, or a cure for cancer,
something stupid.
And it gets injected with itand it starts mutating.
Like I think something likethat is a possibility, because
they do weird stuff with stemcells too.
Like you can like shave a ratdown to like its bare naked body

(35:06):
and you can grow like a humanear and then you just cut it off
and then the skin yeah, it'sweird, and then you just like
it's for like with people, likefrom war, like that come home.
Yeah, that need an ear yeah,like that, I'm like, okay,
that's, that's kind of cool,because then they can at least
live somewhat of a normal lifeat that point, like they don't

(35:26):
have to have a fake plastic earanymore.
They can actually like try tofix their hearing and have a
normal ear, like me and you, youknow kind of thing, and they
can have that back yeah so Ifeel like maybe there's
something like that where it'slike an experiment gone wrong
kind of thing, where it's likeit's just again testing on
different chemicals, fluids,whatever, and then it just

(35:48):
somehow escaped, because I cantell you with 100 certainty that
they can't just containeverything all in one thing.
You know, like that's true sosomething or someone done messed
up and it got out, and so it'snot going to be no prehistoric
humanoid creature running around.

(36:09):
It's probably just some kind oflike animal that mutated
gorilla mutated gorilla, so yeah, well, that's a first for me.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
Yeah, that I've heard , because I've also heard the
back to this subject the demontheory, that bigfoot could be a
demon that I did not know.
Please elaborate well, when yousee pictures of it and they're
always blurry and the people,people always talk about shadows
of it and seeing it.

(36:38):
There's one story that was onyoutube of this guy who's
speeding and the cop pulls himover.
But then the cop is likefreaking out.
He's like, did you see that?
And the guy's like what?
That thing that ran across theroad and it's like oh, like one
of those, yeah, one of thosestories where it's like, yeah,
it ran across the road and wenever see that.

Speaker 1 (36:58):
To get it on camera and it's like with the crappiest
quality Nokia phone from likethe 90s.

Speaker 2 (37:06):
So I don't know, because the story originates
from somewhere.

Speaker 1 (37:10):
Here's my thing.

Speaker 2 (37:11):
And it's made it everywhere.

Speaker 1 (37:13):
Yeah, I agree with you with the aspect too of if it
were already like a real thing.
And that's where it's like,because I can agree with you too
on like the whole demonicpresence of basically Bigfoot
being a demon, kind of thing.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (37:29):
We would have gotten.
Look at the technology todaythat we have.
We can see pimples on people'sfaces of celebrities if we
wanted to and cleared 4k, even8k.

Speaker 2 (37:45):
What an example to use I know, right, I'm just.

Speaker 1 (37:49):
But like then bigfoot is like on a 1990s nokia cell
phone, that's right, yeah, likethat's all.
Oh, my god, you see that.
And then it's like they're justwiggling it around and stuff
like that and it's just likedude, yeah it's always shaky
yeah, it's shaky, or they dropit.

(38:10):
It's like oh man, I gotta getmy phone.
Oh, oh, it's gone yeah yeah orthey're just like and then you
see, like the, the handprint, orthe, the footprint, that looks
like a human foot.
No way, frank, come here.
And then it's like look at that, that's a big foot and then
it's clearly a bear claw.

Speaker 2 (38:29):
He's fishing with a fishing net uh no, that's funny.
Yeah, that could be it too.
It could just be a story like afable.
Yeah, because I don't know.
I don't know if you can getpictures of demons like our
demons here's, here's the okay.

Speaker 1 (38:51):
So here's something on that but then yeah I feel
like you can and can't, it'sboth.
And the thing I'm relating itto is, like, have you ever seen
or uh heard of the?
I?
I think they have actual audioand pictures of the exorcist,

(39:11):
like no, I have not I've.
I mean there's the movie, butthat's obviously yeah like, but
they have, there's like actualaudio from like I the exorcism
or something like that, like thereal one.
That's like you can heareverything and it's like the
voice is like of nothing, likeI've ever heard of somebody

(39:32):
speaking like, even with voice,acting like you'd have to do a
lot of tunage of auto-tune andwhatever like venom.
You know like how.
He's like we are venom, likeyeah, yeah but it's like
something that's like I don'teven think anything could like
replicate that, and it's in adifferent tongue too, like you
hear English, but then it's likea different tongue or something

(39:54):
like that, like it's like noteven a language that anybody's
been able to like translate.

Speaker 2 (39:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:59):
And then there's also pictures of, like, what
happened to the girl andeverything like that that was
possessed, and then how thepriest like threw him down the
stairs or something like that,because he took the demon inside
him and then he just basicallyoffed himself to get rid of the
demon.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
So, is that like the true story of the exorcist?

Speaker 1 (40:21):
I want to say it's just like one of those.
It's not a conspiracy kind ofthing, but it's literally like
this was like the first knownlike actual audio recording and
pictures of an exorcism takingplace like way back in the day,
and they have pictures of, likethe girl and what she looked
like before and then after she'slike skin and bone, she's got

(40:46):
marks on her body and she doesnot look human.
So it's like that's terrifying.
So I think in a way, you can't,I don't think you're gonna
catch like you know what I mean,like a red guy with horns or
anything like that right, butyou're gonna're going to catch
something of a demonic presence.

Speaker 2 (41:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (41:11):
Whether it's not like a shadow kind of thing, because
anybody can make a shadow.
I could sit there on that lampover there in the corner and go
like look a dog yeah.
And they'd be like oh my goshgosh, it's a ghost dog from hell
, you know right.
So in a way you can capturedemonic presence in reality, but

(41:34):
also you're not going to catchagain like just some demon
chilling like you know, likehe's just there in the woods,
seven foot tall yeah, in thewoods.
Seven foot tall and shaped likea monkey yeah, yeah, shaped like
a monkey with his xboxcontroller.
So, yeah, that's that's kind ofmy perspective on that, at

(41:59):
least for the whole demonic,with bigfoot being a demon,
possibly, and then also, can youactually catch evidence of it?
Yeah, you can.

Speaker 2 (42:09):
So you think you could capture a picture.

Speaker 1 (42:12):
Well, I ain't going to go searching in a haunted
house or like and I'm not askingyou to, no, never I ain't going
to go to Diddy's basement andlike try to find like a
pentagram anytime soon and belike oh, let me capture a demon
real quick yeah, nice, nice,nice going there out of nowhere

(42:33):
I know, but I'm just saying doyou think I get me with baby
lotion too at that point?
Oh, here we go down the rabbithole, down the rabbit hole, down
the rabbit hole.
No returns.

Speaker 2 (42:46):
Oh, we're returning.
But you think that, say like,bigfoot is 100% a demon.
You think that we couldpossibly get a picture of said
demon without him?

Speaker 1 (43:01):
possessing somebody.

Speaker 2 (43:04):
Or does there have to be a possession so we can
actually see, like, what thedemon is doing to somebody that
I don't know, that one's kind ofa?
Well, you better figure it outsorry, I'm trying.

Speaker 1 (43:15):
No there.
I think in a way you could getlike a picture of it, um, with,
like you know, without having apossession be involved.

Speaker 2 (43:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (43:26):
But also again, when a demon and again in the case of
the exorcism takes possessionof a human being, it you can
yeah, you can see that there'ssomething not of reality today
that's normal about that person.

Speaker 2 (43:44):
So in a way, you can capture it, with or without you
know what I mean yeah, I mean,they capture ufos allegedly yeah
, roswell, or you know uh, area51 yeah, and I, because there's
a lot of speculation now withall this alien stuff, and I'm
not talking about the cake, yeah, the alien cake, yeah, the cake

(44:09):
from Mexico that they're like.

Speaker 1 (44:10):
we have two species of aliens that we caught.
We're just releasing them tothe public.
Ooh, chocolate.

Speaker 2 (44:15):
Yeah right, Exactly.

Speaker 1 (44:16):
They're actually speaking of UFOs.
So DJ, my brother's ex-wife,she and Caesar I have the video
still saved on my phone of itthis is something that's weird,
I don't think.
And again, it's another greatline where it's like they could
be, their aliens could exist,but it's not like you know, a

(44:37):
green guy with big black eyescomes down and he's like you
know, I'm going to probe you,he's some, it's a demon.
You know, I'm going to probeyou, he's some.
It's a demon.
And again, because it's playingwith us and it's toying with us
, because then at that pointit's straying us farther away
from God at that point.
And so DJ and Caesar, herboyfriend, were driving down the

(44:57):
road at night and this was liketoday, and this isn't no like.
Oh, did it frank?
like that it was.
It was crystal clear stillimaging of they were in the car
driving.
She zooms in with her phone.
There's lights following themperfectly straight and it's not
like a plane is, like, you know,whizzing by, like at the

(45:19):
airport or whatever, or ahelicopter's just hovering, you
know kind of thing?
Yeah, like, because usuallywith helicopters their lights
are flashing, they're not solid,unless it's you know kind of
thing.
Yeah, like, because usuallywith helicopters their lights
are flashing, they're not solid.

Speaker 2 (45:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (45:28):
Unless it's like a searchlight kind of thing, like
they're searching for somebody.
Same with planes they usuallyhave, like maybe like a light
that's like at the bottom of itto indicate hey, I'm a plane.
And one on top that's hey, I'm aplane, and then they, but they
always have one that's flashing.
None of these were flashing,and it was like one or two solid
lights and it was consistentlykeeping up with the car.

(45:53):
It wasn't like where again,like you have the car and it's
like moving at the same speedand then it's like kind of
dragging a little bit.
You know what I mean yeah it's,it was like, like perfect, and
then it just went anddisappeared and disappeared.
And so, unless it was a planethat crashed, which I highly

(46:15):
doubt, because you would see anexplosion or something like
that- yeah, and you said it wasclose to them it was like yeah,
it was close, yeah, they wouldhave felt the crash if it was a
plane crash.
Right, exactly.
And so at that point, here's mything, and I'm not going to say
who I know this is or who toldme, and if you know, don't say

(46:36):
nothing, but I know somebodythat used to work for a
particular building, that theywere.
I won't say their job titleeither, but they also and I know
this sounds sketchy as crap,but I'm just just it's
protection, it's protection,yeah, so in the event that
something does happen, so if youdon't see me on the show again,

(46:59):
you know what happened stefandies of a mysterious heart
attack.
Yep with my PS5 controller.

Speaker 2 (47:06):
All right, last one.
Yeah, that was the last one.

Speaker 1 (47:08):
We're going to move on.
We're going to move on.
So they were introduced to acertain room and this room went
over certain files that shownmilitary aircraft and the
military aircraft resembled andmotioned like a ufo.

(47:33):
So ufos, more than likely Iwould say about 99 sure are
probably military-based aircraft, because there's no way right
now like they're already makingandroids that can serve people

(47:55):
and carry people of over 400pounds with no problem.
Yeah, and it's like you can'ttell me we've been laying in the
dark for this long and not haveany kind of technology that
we're not that advanced on.
You may be giving the publicsmall bits, like the iPhone.
Like oh, here's the iPhone 15.

(48:17):
We added a third camera.
Here's the iPhone 16.
We added a third camera, butyou have a button on the side to
take a picture of it instead ofclicking the app.
Like cool, you've shown us that.
Like, yeah, that's cool, butthere's no way they don't have
more advanced technology at thatpoint.
Than what they're showing usExactly, because if we had that

(48:37):
much power, if the public hadthat much power, like
teleportation or time travel,whatever they're doing- I don't
know if time travel is evergoing to be possible.

Speaker 2 (48:46):
I here.
Here's my only thing, Iactually have a joke about time
travel, but you didn't like it.
What?
You'll get it one day oh, backto the future.

Speaker 1 (49:01):
they, um yeah.
So I think that it's just moreof a military thing and the
because we've been known for,like roswell and area 51, of all
the ufos and aliens.
Like we just relate it toaliens at that point, because
what do you think is going tohappen if the public or an enemy

(49:21):
of the united states or whoeverowns these ufos, finds out that
we have more advanced aircraftthat could take you out in two
seconds with no hesitation atall and also defies gravity,
because it could stop mid-air,go up down left right side side,
underwater, above yeah, butthat's why I think that it could

(49:44):
be things from the spiritualrealm.

Speaker 2 (49:46):
It could be, yeah, and they could just be like
lying about it.
Whoever this special interestperson is, that we know of.
Yeah, and because in Ezekiel,the first chapter, actually I'm
going to, I'm going to, I haveit in here, I'm going to see if
I can find exactly what he'stalking about.
He says wherever the spiritwanted to go, they went, and the

(50:09):
wheels rose along with them.
For the spirit of the livingcreatures was in the wheels when
those went, these went and whenthose.

(50:40):
So he's like describing thiswheel thing right and what are
ufos shaped like?
oh, a wheel yeah, I'm justsaying like, like he's
describing.

Speaker 1 (50:52):
I think he's describing like one of those
weird angels with like eyeseverywhere but also too, if you
really think about it, like howthat got brought up in ezekiel.
The thing is, too, is even eventhough there's like how people
think that there's no proof ofgod existing and all this other
stuff.
Look at noah's ark in turkey.
It is there, in the flesh, thatbiblical happenings happen.

(51:20):
It's true, noah's Ark, theBible is real, but yet again,
people are going to still doubtyou can also see like if you
it's a big wooden boat, likethat's what they're just
thinking.
Oh, it's from the ancient times,it's like okay.

Speaker 2 (51:36):
Yeah.
Also, if you look at the worldlike it looks like all the
continents, yeah, can fit.
And so when noah's ark happened, not only did it rain, but it
also like water gushed from theearth yeah, and then they also
proved too it because in thebible it shows like the
dimensions of noah's ark yeahand in turkey where it's buried

(51:58):
in the mountain.

Speaker 1 (51:59):
They measured it and it's the exact dimensions, exact
material that was described inthat bible there yeah, that's
why I'm saying that, like aliensand all this like it's
spiritual weird stuff could bespiritual and it's just like god
is giving hint after hint andnobody's listening, and people

(52:21):
are still going to deny him.

Speaker 2 (52:22):
Because even back to the noah's ark thing, it's like
why is there random artifactsfrom different civilizations
found all across the world?
Well, yeah because there waslike floating in the water and
it could have ended up anywhereright and they even too like.

Speaker 1 (52:37):
So you remember how like we were kind of on a craze
for a minute about like theprince of egypt and you know
this and you know the scenewhere uh, moses and god, like he
, he says like, take the staffand he splits the sea yeah so,
and then, after they get to acertain point, the egyptian army
is like chasing after them, andthen it closes yeah they found

(53:01):
a long time ago, um, relics ofbasically egyptian like how many
soldiers there were andeverything like that, like it
said in the bible and everythingfor where this all happens.
so how did a whole army ofEgyptian soldiers with chariots,
with no boat, mind you, to befound?

(53:23):
So it's not like they were on awarship and then the boat sank
and all of them drowned.
This was them running through apath and then, as soon as the
sea closed, that's when they allperished, right, and there's
proof of that in that sea.
and again, stephan, it's prettyfamous, it's the red sea it is I

(53:45):
know, but I'm just like it'sthere yeah, concrete evidence,
and nobody's gonna believe still, because they're gonna be like
oh, that could just be, you know, cleopatra's army, or something
like that.

Speaker 2 (53:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (53:58):
So that's just how people are, so and yeah, with
the whole UFO thing, like yeah,I think now that you mentioned
that because I never heard thatverse before, but I think that
could describe something of aUFO and it's more of a biblical
accuracy to how Noah's Ark ishere.

(54:19):
Yeah, there's stuff there's noway our feeble minds could
comprehend anything like that.
If somebody had that much of anadvanced brain to comprehend
making a device that could justbreaking the sound barrier 10
times like more than just thespeed of sound or the speed of

(54:41):
light and just go boop, boop,boop and stop on a dime yeah,
and they've also said that itcan go into the water and not
lose any speed either.

Speaker 2 (54:49):
Yeah, like that's insane.

Speaker 1 (54:51):
So it's obviously working in a dimension that's
not of ours and here's what Ialso have to say too about the
time travel thing how you'relike, I don't know if we'll ever
get to that.
So the only thing I can thinkof with time travel existing and
I'm not talking photographswhere you can like see like a

(55:12):
guy holding up a cell phoneduring like abraham lincoln's
gettysburg address, like I'mtalking like so there's this
thing, and I forget the areait's in in the world.
It's like it starts with a p,it's like perseus or something
like that, I think it's calledor whatever, but it's a giant,

(55:33):
uh, particle accelerator andit's got some stuff in it that I
don't know if it's supposed tobe like a super weapon or
something like that, but it'sparticle.

Speaker 2 (55:43):
It's got some stuff I don't.
I'm not a scientist, I'm not DrDoofenshmirtz Like
perideplantibus, like that Like.

Speaker 1 (55:54):
But it's a particle accelerator and they said
something like if it goes off,like something big will happen,
like time will stop or somethingstupid and this is on the earth
yeah, this is on the earth.

Speaker 2 (56:09):
It's underneath the city, it's a real thing, and
there, and it's a something thathumans created like an
experiment thing.

Speaker 1 (56:18):
Yeah, but again I believe that there probably is
with.
I think at this point it's likewith more knowledge, like that,
like if you really think likehumans can like just have that
much brain power without kind ofsome spiritual influence, then
that's not human at all.
That's like more of a demoniclike kind of thing and that's

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not human at all.
That's like more of a demoniclike kind of thing, unless, like
again, you can kind of use itin the aspect of like if you're
given like brilliance, like itdepends, like it's like a whole
like villain arc kind of thingor a hero arc, like you're
either going to use it for goodor you're going to use it for
bad.
You know that's what God wantsus to do, is like that's why he
has that Bible for teachings oflike how to spread the word of
God, how to treat your neighborlike yourself you know, and then

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so like, if somebody is makingthis particle accelerator, they
could be, you know, use.
One guy could be like well, wecould use it for endless power.
And then that way everybodywill like well, I want to time
travel and change events towhere you know like JFK never
got assassinated or like I don'tknow, like the Great Depression
never happened, and then alter,and you can alter timelines and

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stuff like that, where certainevents happen.

Speaker 2 (57:33):
So you think that we could get to time travel where
we change timelines, not wherewe go back in time with like a
machine gun to the Roman times,Like Terminator?

Speaker 1 (57:43):
like that.
No, I think, if anything, itwould be where?
Yeah, if anything, time travelis definitely going to be used
for bad, 100% it's not going tobe, because who's going to back
and like in time and be like?
Don't do that, like in worldwar ii, like okay, we're going
to stop, and I don't know if hisname can really be shared on

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the podcast, but I'm not goingto say it just say adolf adolf.
Yeah, okay, it was the last namewe know the last name, so adolf
, and you're just going toeither assassinate him right
away, before World War II evenstarts.
I don't think anybody's goingto do that at that point,
because that would definitelyalter the timeline for anything.

Speaker 2 (58:26):
Yeah.
It's like all the bad thingsthat happen in the world have
brought everything to where itis.

Speaker 1 (58:33):
Right.
And so it's like what do theycall it too?
The butterfly effect.
If you kill a butterfly in thepast, call it to the butterfly
effect.
If, like, you kill a butterflyin the past, then it affects the
future, like that kind of thing.
So if you do something stupidin the past and like if somebody
were to go back and try to belike, well, I grew up poor, but
now that I know time travel, Ican change my past and make
myself filthy rich, you know, ifI give him that like like back

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to the future, like there's anepisode, like I think it's back
to the future too where uh,marty goes into the future, he
goes in the past and then, uh,there's the almanac yeah and he
get.
And then it stumbles upon biff.
And so biff uses that becauseit's all the cheats of like
gambling to like win money.
So he becomes successful, likeoh, the bears are gonna win the
season, so bet fifty thousanddollars.
And then he so Biff uses thatbecause it's all the cheats of

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gambling to win money.
So he becomes successful, likeoh, the Bears are going to win
the season, so bet $50,000.
And then he just keeps winningbecause it's from the future.

Speaker 2 (59:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (59:24):
So then he goes to the future, tries to get the
almanac and he sees that Biffhas basically taken over.
So it's like, yeah, you coulddo that, but then that changes
everybody else's timeline too,because maybe you weren't meant
to be rich.
It's just kind of how God has aplan for everybody.
I'm not swimming in a river ofgold.

Speaker 2 (59:42):
That's why I that's what.

Speaker 1 (59:44):
You know what I mean.
I'm not Scrooge McDuck.

Speaker 2 (59:46):
Yeah, that's why I don't think that time travel
could ever be accomplished,because we can't change what God
has already ordained to happen.

Speaker 1 (59:55):
Yeah, he's already the all-powerful.
So even if it were possible, towhere you could go back in time
to do that, he's still incontrol.

Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:00:04):
That's just how it is , but I do believe at some point
we could probably make timetravel to an extent.

Speaker 2 (01:00:09):
But then again you could also make the argument
that he has time travel ordainedin his plan too, and he already
knows that everybody's going todo with that.

Speaker 1 (01:00:19):
So that's a pretty crazy thought, but it is too
Thought Thought.
And again, though, he's got aplan for everything.
Right, that's what I'm saying.
Eventually, the rapture isgoing to happen, regardless if
people want it to happen or theydon't want to talk about it, or
whatever.
So, even if time travel, evenif we get the jetsons future, we

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have flying cars finally, likewe were supposed to have two
years ago, because I think thejetsons took place in like 2021
or something stupid like that, Idon't know that's crazy that
those cartoons were based off inthe future.
And here we are right and soyeah, here we are.
It's 20 like again.
Relating it back to the back tothe future is like they made
the delorean with the mr fusion,where, oh, we don't use

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gasoline anymore, marty, we userecyclable fuels like garbage.
And then he throws a bananapeel in there and like some
paper and then it's like thecar's full and it's like we can
go back in time now and whatever, and it's like, if only right,
that's what I'm saying.
How easy would it be to justlike pick up a napkin and be
like oh well, that's my gas forthe next two months.

Speaker 2 (01:01:24):
I might try it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:26):
I don't think you're going to get too far, buddy.
So yeah, it's one of thosethings where you may have a plan
for that.

Speaker 2 (01:01:34):
We don't know.
Yeah, we don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:01:36):
Because he again is the all-knowing.
So if he does, he's going to.
I guarantee you, just letwhatever happened happen,
because again he ultimately hasa plan and then when that day
comes for the rapture, then he'sgoing to.
Again it's like he's givingsigns to the world too, even
today that he's done, he's tiredof their crap yeah, so it could

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put an end to time travel atthat point too, because who's
gonna say like if he came downand like like that?
And then it's like, oh nope,you know what, real quick,
before the whole world ends andthe rapture happens.
I'm just gonna travel back intime and stop that from
happening.
And it's somehow, if that waseven possible, you know what I
mean, but then yeah, yeah, it'sjust, it's just stupid crap like

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that, um, but yeah, so I guess,aside from because we
definitely got lost track ofbigfoot there for a second again
, um, do we want to talk aboutsome other conspiracy.

Speaker 2 (01:02:33):
We were on to aliens, oh yeah, aliens, we were down
with bigfoot, but yeah, aliens,we kind of Well, we were on to
aliens, oh yeah, aliens, we weredown with Bigfoot, but yeah,
aliens, we kind of touched onthat.
Here's a fun conspiracy theory.
Do you think that this currenthurricane was man-made by the
government?
I think so Because theconspiracy theory is that there
can be lithium or somethingmined in those mountains where

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the hurricane is hitting and thepeople, or some people, aren't
giving up their land.

Speaker 1 (01:03:05):
So why then just destroy it and then that way,
when you're helping out, you canjust collect that lithium?
Yeah because, yeah, it's 100%.

Speaker 2 (01:03:14):
When you look at how much water is there Because it's
not like percent when you lookat how much water yeah is there
like it's not like thishurricane isn't like I know.
I know tropical storms arecrazy, but they should be that
crazy it's not, yeah, it's notright by the ocean.

Speaker 1 (01:03:26):
It's like pretty in inland right, and that's one
thing too I was worried about,because my dad, he he's down in
florida right now because he's72 years old, he's old, so old
people like the warmth yeah butit's like you better be careful
going down there, dude, becauseand he said like it's bad down
there- even where he's at, yeah,like he said it's bad, like

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it's.
It's bad where he's at, but it'snot as bad as other parts, and
he's it's just like there ain'tno way.
Because it's the same thing youcan kind of look at with Hawaii
, where there were pieces ofproperty and again I'm going off
like what I remember, but I, atleast I'm more confident that
this is correct but there werepieces of land in Hawaii that

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somebody wanted and peopleweren't giving it up, that
somebody wanted and peopleweren't giving it up.
So there were certainproperties that were badly
damaged and other ones were nottouched.
From what?
From the fire, oh right.
And so then that's when Oprahand the Rock decided to come in

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and be like can you please helpus?
And it's like you guys gotbillions of dollars.
Don't you dare ask the UnitedStates citizens to help out at
that point when you celebritiesare living the best life
possible.

Speaker 2 (01:04:47):
People eat that stuff up.
Yeah, exactly.
It's like, yeah, we'll give hermoney, they don't think that,
well, they got crapped on.

Speaker 1 (01:04:52):
I can tell you that much.

Speaker 2 (01:04:53):
Yeah Well, people like you and I know that, but
there's a ton of people thatwould give that money and
there's nothing wrong withgiving well right, but there is
to a degree, um, oh, for a primeexample, again this hurricane.

Speaker 1 (01:05:09):
I don't know if you heard recently, but a particular
party has offered 750750 tothose people.

Speaker 2 (01:05:19):
Yeah, I know, I've heard that.

Speaker 1 (01:05:21):
But yet we can send billions of dollars to Ukraine.
And I'm sorry to say this, butif you got your own problems on
your side of the world, dealwith it.
We right now unless it's like agenocide, like world war ii
kind of thing yeah, but if youhave problems with your

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government and you're expectingus to come help you at that
point because he took toys or usdown, like I'm sorry, I
obviously know it's not thatstupid of a problem we do not
need to be funding these people.
We're not helping the americanpeople out, right.
So that's where I'm like okay,yeah, no money can be used like

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for obviously something stupid,but we have to help ourselves
before we can help, yeah, otherpeople, and we're already
trillions of dollars in debt atthis point, but again, for it's
just like the whole.
Um, when covet happened, theygave us that whole.
What?
What was the type of check?
A severance check or somethinglike that?

(01:06:26):
Or stimulus, stimulus check?
Like the american people, wewere for so long not sure of
what was going to happen andthen especially here in michigan
right, and I'm thinking thefirst stimulus check of like
what was it?
fifteen hundred dollars,something like that, like to
every american citizen.
That may have helped out alittle bit, but then, when it

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went down to like 600 and then400, it was like huh.
And then you get to like againukraine, for example.
You're sending billionsrebuilding malls, airports.
We're like a third world countryto compare to some of these

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people yeah, if you look atpeople who go to europe and I
don't mean to get political, butI'm like that's where, when you
mentioned money and like the,the hurricane and everything
else, I was like, okay, I got tosay something about it, because
it literally it's somethingmanmade.
They're destroying partsbecause they either find
something valuable or because wehave our freedom of speech to a

(01:07:29):
degree, they want to take thataway.
So they're going to say it wasof natural causes.
As to why this happened, aftera debate about well, we want
this, oh, you won't give it tous.

Speaker 2 (01:07:43):
let's create something that will force you to
give it to us yeah, do you haveany idea of how they would
create a big tropical storm?

Speaker 1 (01:07:54):
I'm sure they got again.
It's the whole technology thingyeah you know, they can
probably conjure up a tornadotoo.

Speaker 2 (01:08:01):
Some of these tornadoes are getting out of
hands too.

Speaker 1 (01:08:03):
There's a lot of water there is but this current
hurricane there is, but that isnot a natural amount of water.
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:08:13):
It's a crazy amount of water, yeah, and I mean, I
know it rains.

Speaker 1 (01:08:18):
Yeah, dude I'm sorry, thank you you're welcome but
yeah, it's an unnatural amountof water, just like some of
these tornadoes like too, likethey've been obnoxiously huge
for no reason.
Like I know, tornadoes couldget really big and that has to
do with like wind, but again, Ithink part of it could be the

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government too, because, likethere ain't no way that you can
have like a tornado the size ofTexas, take like at all period.

Speaker 2 (01:08:48):
It could also be God's judgment on America.
There is stuff in the Bible Ido know where there will be a
lot more hurricanes, earthquakesand tornadoes and other stuff
like that when it's gettingcloser to that time?
Right, that's what I'm hintingat too, but I really don't think
because he already said there'snot going to be another flood
yeah so I don't think okay, thishurricane is not nearly as bad

(01:09:13):
as the noah flood no, it'sdefinitely not.

Speaker 1 (01:09:16):
But what I'm getting at, though, is, like it's, I
don't think he would, even if hewas just upset with us I don't
think he's going to make a gianthurricane come down on one area
, or multiple that big, to provea point, like he would have to

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do something like again, likethe flood or something like that
.
You never know exactly, younever know.
He's got a plan, but I reallydon't think that he would allow
that to happen.
You know, I, he, you know it's,it's.
It's one of those things, too,where, again, like you brought
up the lithium yeah, I'm justmaking a, because what it was?

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They discussed it and then,like what?
A couple months later, thishappened.

Speaker 2 (01:10:06):
I don't know exactly what happened, and this is just
like stuff that I've heard.
So who knows if they'reactually looking for lithium up
there?
I'm just saying the amount ofwater is unnatural.

Speaker 1 (01:10:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:10:17):
And the fact that they can probably do something
with weather to control it insome ways.

Speaker 1 (01:10:26):
I don't know exactly how or how much power they
actually have in creating thesestorms, but there's got to be
something that they're doing andthey also could be definitely
helping out the us citizens downthere that don't have a home
anymore, but instead going toother places.

Speaker 2 (01:10:41):
They could be helping yeah that's.

Speaker 1 (01:10:44):
That's the saddest part.

Speaker 2 (01:10:45):
Yeah, not the, just the destruction is definitely
very bad and they're trying toprevent elon musk from going out
there with his starlink.
Which starlink is like?

Speaker 1 (01:10:55):
that really great.
Like what internet?

Speaker 2 (01:10:57):
yeah, wi-fi, where you can just like have it on you
and be in the middle of nowhereand have wi-fi it's all about
control at that point yeah, sothey're trying to prevent him
from using that, even though itwould help people, because
nobody knows where anybody isdown there.
Yeah, because there's no cellservice, there's nothing, uh-huh
.
So there's all these peoplemissing.
They don't know how to definethem at this point.

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Are they gone?

Speaker 1 (01:11:19):
gone forever that's another kind of conspiracy
theory too, in a way is likedoes this government or anybody
really want people to be found?
You know, like db cooper, theguy that jumped out of that
plane with, like what, twentythousand dollars and then he
just disappeared.
I think he died.
He, he had to have I mean, he'sdefinitely dead now, if

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anything but he couldn't havejust like, oh we, because if
they were trying to cover it upthey would have been like, oh
he's, he died there would be thepoint of covering it up right,
it would be no, what would bethe point of covering it?
yeah, oh yeah, well, yeahexactly.
There'd be no point at all,there'd be none.

Speaker 2 (01:12:00):
So mysterious guy just jumps out of an airplane,
the government covers it up forno reason.

Speaker 1 (01:12:05):
He's just missing.
But really they could haveoffed him.
There's that, but what would bethe point?
That's a mystery.
Well, okay, okay, okay.
I know the point, I know thepoint.

Speaker 2 (01:12:17):
Well, let's, let's get the story of the db cooper,
at least the, uh, the summary,because we're not going to do a
whole 45 minute episode on dbcooper.
But right, there, you have abit of information on it,
correct?

Speaker 1 (01:12:31):
a little bit.
Yeah, they.
The one thing I will say is thereason why they would probably
off him for no reason is coverup, because I still believe, to
even this day, there's aconspiracy that the titan
submarine was a cover up,because if they knew days,

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because we spent, like what aweek searching for the
submarine- yes they knew withinlike a day or two that the
submarine already imploded andeverybody died okay.

Speaker 2 (01:13:02):
Do you want to talk about the titan conspiracy?
Or do you want to do the dbcooper?
I wanted to titan.

Speaker 1 (01:13:07):
Okay, we'll move on, I know more about the titan
incident than I do db cooper.
He's just some guy that wentparasailing and then just
freaking, you know, died orwhatever, with twenty thousand
dollars in his pocket yeah, soeverybody can look it up if you
want.

Speaker 2 (01:13:19):
It's kind of interesting, but it has a pretty
boring ending.

Speaker 1 (01:13:22):
So yeah, and the titan submarine yeah, so the
titan submarine I think therewas some sort of cover-up with
that.
So because people were justspeculating, like how much
oxygen these people had, if like, because the sub lost, but like
they lost all communicationwith it after it hit, like I
think it was like the halfwaypoint maybe or or they did reach

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the titanic but then it just,you know, cut off completely.
So they were like, well there's,you know, they at least have 96
hours of oxygen.
So we're going to keep lookingas long as possible.
And it made news.
First of all, as much of aTitanic enthusiast as I am,

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nobody talks about Titanicanymore.
So if they're trying, whyrandomly bring up Titanic?
You know why bring up the Titansubmarine and make it a whole
thing for a week and then afterthat week they're just like gone
, like it's not mentionedanymore.
Titanic isn't mentioned anymore.
The Titan sub's really notmentioned anymore, until like a

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couple months later when theyfound the debris and they found
human remains.

Speaker 2 (01:14:31):
Was this last year that it happened?

Speaker 1 (01:14:33):
Yeah, it was already a year ago.

Speaker 2 (01:14:35):
Which is crazy?
It is crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:14:38):
Yeah, it was already a year ago, which is more than
crazy ago.
It is crazy yeah, it was.

Speaker 2 (01:14:40):
It was, I think, in june.
I think yeah, because Iremember we talked about it on
the old podcast a little bitwhen I think it was you, andy,
and I yeah, yeah, it was at theold apartment yeah, it was at
the old apartment.

Speaker 1 (01:14:52):
We talked about it, um, and so you already have all
the footage and you have thedata logs and everything like
that, because they werecommunicating with the titan
submarine for the whole descentthat they were going down and
the last message that theyreceived on their comms was
we're all good, and then justnothing.

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They tried reaching out to thesub supposedly they got nothing,
so they lost all communications.
Then that's when that stirredup media and they were like well
, the Titan submarine has fivebillionaires in it, including
the CEO of Ocean Gate, and theyhave at least enough oxygen
supply If they made it down tothe Titanic for 96 hours, enough

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oxygen supply, you know, ifthey made it down to the titanic
for 96 hours and then, like aday later, they heard like a
like in simultaneous, likepatterns and stuff like that
yeah and that was ultimately thesub imploding.
That was the echoes from withinthe water so they knew, and they
knew that right, they knew thatexactly, didn't say that
exactly because, again, ifyou're trying to, if, if you

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knew at the point that the subimploded, then media is over
like yep, they died.
You know it's a sad and maybegrieve it on the news for a
little bit, but you dragged itout and used millions of dollars
with US Navy vessels for likefive days trying to search for

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this sub because they only hadso much oxygen.
And then when it went past that96 hours, they were like, ok,
well, at this point we'reprobably going to find the
submarine intact, but there'sgoing to be corpses in it at
this point because they lost alltheir oxygen.

Speaker 2 (01:16:43):
Yeah.
So, what do you think the mediawas trying to cover up with
this story?

Speaker 1 (01:16:52):
That's.
The only thing I don't know isit could be literally anything
it could be like and againrelating him back to Titanic.
But Robert Ballard, the guy whodiscovered the wreck in 1985,
he was originally cause.
Now it's declassified.
Now Cause it was a classifiedthing, he couldn't talk about it
, but now it's declassified hewas searching for, like I think

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it was a Russian submarine thathad nukes or something in it and
they were trying to find it andextract it so they could.
Obviously it's got nukes in itor something like that.
Yeah, so he used the cover-upof searching for titanic so
nobody would find thatsuspicious.
We're going to use the cover-upfor at least five days to

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search for this submarine withfive billionaires in it, even
though we know after day one ortwo, whenever it was that it
sandwiched and killed everybody.

Speaker 2 (01:17:49):
So he was trying to search for this sub during this
time.

Speaker 1 (01:17:52):
No, no, no, no.
So the submarine obviously waslast year.
Robert Ballard was using thetitanic as a cover-up for the
russian submarine back in 1985okay, so that was back in 1985
yeah.
So I'm saying like in the samepresent, like present day, they
may have been searching forsomething underwater like that,
like another submarine fromanother country or something

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like that, or even justsomething going on.

Speaker 2 (01:18:17):
I don't know, maybe in like the stocks, something
like that, yeah, there's alsospeculation, because bill gates
with I don't remember who it was, you know us and our
information.
We don't know who who was, butthey were making meat that was

(01:18:39):
grown in a lab.
Yeah, like that doesn't haveany nutrition or anything like
that.
It doesn't have animals in it,but it's like they could like
make a steak.
It's just weird.

Speaker 1 (01:18:49):
It's like the.
What was it?
It was like when SpongeBob andMr Krabs got that new machine
with the great goop that splatdown on the conveyor belt and
there was like a press and itturned it into a Krabby Patty
and they bit into it.
It was like gray.

Speaker 2 (01:19:04):
Yeah, kind of like that.

Speaker 1 (01:19:05):
So kind of like that with the steak.

Speaker 2 (01:19:07):
Yeah, because you know Bill Gates is out here
telling everybody to eat lessmeat and be healthy with his big
old gut.
I don't understand it.

Speaker 1 (01:19:14):
Yeah, he's probably eating all the real meat.

Speaker 2 (01:19:17):
Yeah, why is he telling us how to live?

Speaker 1 (01:19:20):
It's just like everybody else.
It's like Lizzo tells us tolike oh yeah, baby, you don't
need to exercise, you can beyour extra large self and then
it's just like all right, cool.
So, like, already, half ofAmerica is fat anyway.
So I mean, why not get theother 50 like going?

(01:19:42):
Yeah, so you have thatinfluence and you're well known,
so there's going to be idiotsout there that are going to
listen to this dude.
There are, just like with someother people that like to listen
to biden or president harris,or vice president harris, I
should say.
And, um, you know, and there'speople that listen to I'm trying

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to think of like a, a normalcelebrity, like Alan Jackson, I
guess you could say like acountry singer, oh, stuff.
Like hey, I love that man, heis great, but you know he he
still like talks about God andbeing in his life and everything
like that.
So there's people that listen tohim and that to me is like I

(01:20:23):
would rather listen to AlanJackson than I would Bill Gates.
If Alan Jackson told me thatBill Gates is a liar, I'm going
to listen to Alan Jackson beforeI listen to, even if it was my
favorite celebrity you knowwhether it it's Keanu Reeves or
Ryan Reynolds and they were like, nope, bill Gates is telling
the truth.
It's like no, that ain'thappening.

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But I think that the Titansubmarine was 100% a cover-up.
Again, they already knew itimploded after a day or two, and
then they still dragged on withmillions of dollars.
For whatever reason.
They had to pretend like theyhad 96 hours of air and then

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after that we might find corpses, but we'll let you guys know.
And then on, I think, the fifthor sixth day, well, it imploded
.
So, with it imploding, there'sno bodies oh no, the pressure
where Titanic is at is they goby atmospheres of pressure and I
think the human can withstandthree to four atmospheres.

(01:21:34):
I think is how it works.
It's pressure like scuba diversand crap.
Yeah, yeah is how it works.
It's pressure Like scuba diversand crap, yeah.
So you can only withstand somuch pressure and the Titanic is
like over 250.

Speaker 2 (01:21:48):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:21:48):
So you're just, you're jelly at that point.
So there's no articles ofclothing, there's no dental
records, there's no hairfollicles, there's no organs.

Speaker 2 (01:22:03):
There's nothing.
You're just gel.

Speaker 1 (01:22:04):
It's really not worth trying to go collect that
anyway.
Not trying to be mean, but no,and the thing is too.
It's the same thing thathappened to the passengers on
titanic too, when they wereinside the ship, like, even
though, yeah, they were alreadyfilled with water and the bow
was filled with water, liketheir bodies still imploded with
that pressure.
So then the fish ate everythingand whatever.
But yeah, with that short timespan of because it happens like
that, yeah, it's not just like,it happens slow, and then you

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like that, like they didn't knowthat this was happening so they
died instantly.
Because I think it said that thehuman brain it takes 120
milliseconds to for the nervesto like, ow, like I burnt myself
yeah but this happened in like0.5 milliseconds or 50, so it's

(01:22:54):
like it happened before theycould even realize that they
were in pain I guess that'speaceful way to go yeah, yeah,
it's I guess.
Yeah, besides the before, whenyou're freaking out, not knowing
what's going to happen, right,because if I, if I was in that
submarine and I saw waterleaking in and I knew that we
were going to die, and then ithappened, I I'd still be

(01:23:17):
probably like that would not bepeaceful you wouldn't even know.

Speaker 2 (01:23:20):
No, I would be like whoa the water and then you'd be
gone.

Speaker 1 (01:23:25):
I mean just being realistic, yeah but that that's
where I'm at least at on thatwhole conspiracy of at least the
titan submarine.
I don't know what exactly thegovernment or whoever was trying
to cover up, but I do believethat the titan submarine was 100
, had something going on as acover-up because, again, nobody

(01:23:47):
talked about the titanic I betthe titan sub was made of demons
I'm just carbon fiber demonscarbon fiber oh, with.
Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 2 (01:23:58):
I hadn't really heard of anybody wanting to go down
or heard anything about theTitanic, so it's like why was it
all of a sudden this new?

Speaker 1 (01:24:06):
The last time, too, that anybody had heard anything
about Titanic was in like 2016.
And that was the Australianbillionaire who's so far, far
still planning on buildingTitanic two, which is going to
be an actual cruise ship whichis built one-to-one scale, minus
or well.
It's an addition of an extradeck with nothing but lifeboats

(01:24:27):
and and so yeah, life boats onthe extra deck yeah, life boats
on the extra deck and um it just.

Speaker 2 (01:24:50):
You know, it just happens, man it just did and I
didn't catch it, but yeah butthat's the last time anybody
heard of titanic.

Speaker 1 (01:25:02):
And so then you fast forward seven years in the
future and now, all of a sudden,everybody's obsessed with
titanic again, because titanicis one of the most well-known
shipwrecks yeah, but I know youwant to go down there no, I
don't not.
After that, look, they're alsosending another submarine by the
same company, I believe oceangate but they're making ocean

(01:25:23):
more safe and using.
You know, uh, stuff from lowesinstead of home depot, you know
boo that was.

Speaker 2 (01:25:31):
That was really funny joke.
You should use that for standup.

Speaker 1 (01:25:34):
I should, but I like sitting down too much.

Speaker 2 (01:25:39):
Okay, so you don't want to go down there and more.
I remember at one point you did.
I did yeah but that's my thingis like it's cool and it's cool
that we have the technology togo down there.
But I don't understand thepoint, because all you're going
to be doing is looking out thislittle like window or maybe you

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have a camera on the outside tolook at it, but it's really not
like here.
It's not like going and hikinga mountain where you're actually
like there I'll.

Speaker 1 (01:26:08):
I'll put it in perspective.
You obviously physically can'ttouch the Titanic, correct?
It's a boat that's underwater.
But if you're really passionateabout something like again, I'm
a Titanic enthusiast.
I love the ship, I love thearchitecture, I love everything

(01:26:29):
about the interior, the design,the history, the accident, the
sinking, the current, up-to-datewhich, by the way, a 15-foot
section of the front railingfell off and so it's
deteriorating at a faster ratenow because of the rusticles
that are attached to it, eatingaway at the iron.
But seeing and knowing thehistory of that boat and what

(01:26:55):
happened back in 1912, for mepersonally, if I knew that I was
going to go in a submarine thatwas not going to implode and
I'd be able to see it, and notthrough a tiny little porthole
about the size of, like, youknow, an okay kind of symbol.
You know an okay kind of symbol, but like if I were to see it,

(01:27:15):
like in a big glass dome per seand this you know again, modern
day technology I'm able to seeeverything and go down there and
view it.
It's like a life-changingexperience.
It's like when people go, it'sbecause it's like a memorial,
it's a, it's a grave site.
It's like when you go to groundzero in new york now, where
they have the fountain and theyhave on the um, I think it's, I

(01:27:37):
think it's steel, but you ain'tgot to risk your life for that.
Yeah, I mean for that, forground zero, you don't have to
risk your life.
That's what I'm saying yeah, butlet's just say in a
hypothetical situation we're soadvanced now in life I'm able to
go see titanic without a worryin the world.
I can see it.
It's a big glass dome.

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I can see everything under.

Speaker 2 (01:28:01):
It's perfectly lit up and it's still intact if there
was a 100 survival right to doanything, I think anybody would
do.
I think anybody would do right.
So yeah, if, if there's a 100chance I'm going to survive
going down the titanic, nothingcan go wrong yeah of course I'd
do it yeah, and it's just that.

Speaker 1 (01:28:22):
That's how I view it is.
It's like I like the historyand everything about it and
being able to see it in person,it's like a different
life-changing, because you'reyou're excited as heck to see
this thing and then you rememberthat 1500 people died on it and

(01:28:42):
it's like, it's almost like.
Then you pay homage to it andagain I understand it's not the
same thing compared to going toground zero for 9-11 and like
just being by the pool and justthat.
Those are the voices of thepeople who you know, I guess.
I guess that's how they.
They pay homage is like the,the water fountain or the water

(01:29:03):
fall is like the voices of thevictims yeah um, so that way we
never forget.
And.
But it's a different,life-changing experience, for
the fact of it's just I don'tknow, it's just something you're
passionate about, you reallylike it and you're going to
enjoy it, even if you go to theappalachian mountains or you go
to mcdonald's next door and it'slike wow, this mcdonald's and

(01:29:24):
you're just a little singleteardrops, you know yeah yeah
it's, it's like that's what Ithink of mcdonald's but that
that's how I would view seeingthe titanic is.
It's a life-changing experiencethat I would love to be able to
go to see again with 100certainty that I would not die
every sandwich in the submarineyeah, stephan, I think that's

(01:29:46):
everybody yeah, um, and then Idon't know, is there another
conspiracy theory you want totalk about?
Or am I allowed to talk aboutmy other one, which is another
Titanic one?
But I figured before we go onto Titanic again, or if we just
want to get it done.

Speaker 2 (01:30:04):
Well, since we're on Titanic, we might as well stay
on it.
What do you mean?
The other Titanic one?

Speaker 1 (01:30:09):
Oh, so this one.
I'm pretty sure everybody hasheard this one at this point.
So the theory or conspiracyyeah, conspiracy theory of the
titanic was the titanic did notactually sink.
It was the sister ship, theolympic, that went down and it
was for insurance.

(01:30:29):
So white star lion, I think thatwas the name of the company
that owned the ship yeah and orthe three sister ships, the
britannic, the titanic and theolympic, and I I think there was
something going on where theywere like low on money or
something like that.
There's a bunch of theoriesalong with this white star liner
yeah, white star line yeahwhite star line so there's a

(01:30:52):
bunch of theories within thetheory.
So the one theory is they werelow on money and so they knew
that they were going to get ahuge payout if something
happened to one of their boats,so why not purposely sink a ship
?
But then the other theorybehind it is they had a bunch of
competitors, for I think it wasJP Morgan, the guy that owns

(01:31:14):
Chase Bank today.
Well, who's known for ChaseBank today?
Yeah, he had a bunch ofcompetitors that were set
sailing on the Titanic.
And why not send yourcompetitors on a doomed vessel?

(01:31:37):
And before that all happened, sothe reason why, goodness so the
competitors like big oh up highrich people were supposedly
like olympic that sank yeah,like um, I think his name was
jacob aster or something likethat was one of the passengers
and then the guy who made um I'mtrying to think of his real
name, but he did uh, he'sactually the co-founder him and

(01:31:59):
his wife of Macy's that we knowtoday.

Speaker 2 (01:32:02):
Um, Macy's was around back then.

Speaker 1 (01:32:05):
Well, I think it.
It wasn't as big, but yeah itwas um.
It was a store where you couldexchange clothing and all that
other stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:32:13):
Yeah, because the Titanic and or Olympics sank in
1912, 1914?

Speaker 1 (01:32:18):
1912.
1912.
Yeah and so, but before thatthough.
So what happened ultimatelywith how they knew the ship was
going to be doomed from thebeginning?

(01:32:39):
There were two things.
Number one, the olympic, or um,yeah, the olympic had a fire in
the boiler room, and whathappens with heat and iron is it
becomes more brittle.
Same thing with, like, reallyicy cold water is the metal
becomes brittle and so it's moreflexible to where, even if you
threw a pebble at it, it couldcreate a dent or a little hole.
You know what I mean.
Yeah, so they knew that Titanicwas ready and newer, and again,

(01:33:02):
with this insurance that WhiteStar Line wanted for a huge
payout, was they knew that theOlympic was badly damaged and so
it would be cheaper to use aused boat, essentially for
setting sail, than it would beto use the new boat, and that

(01:33:25):
was probably more reinforced,with better rivets or anything
like that, to hold the iron in.
So what they did is theypainted over where it said
olympic with titanic for thename, and then they switched the
titanic with uh, or theyswitched the olympic then with
titanic.
At that point, so switch twoships and then the boiler um, I

(01:33:48):
believed the fire was on theport side, which is the left,
the sailor term.
So you got bow, stern, which isfront, back, and you got port
and they, uh, starboard sostarboard is right, port is left
.
Um, and it was on the, I believe, the uh starboard side.

(01:34:10):
Actually, yeah, it was thestarboard side.
Actually, yeah, it was thestarboard side.
So instead of the boattraditionally facing the
starboard side for loading uppassengers, they switched it.
So it was actually on.
They were loading passengers onthe left side of the boat
because they wanted to cover upthe fire burn that was on the
side of the boat, whichultimately again doomed the ship

(01:34:32):
because the metal was sobrittle from that fire and then
also with the icy waters of theNorth Atlantic at that night on
1912, um, that when the iceberghit it just created a 300 foot
gash on the side of the bow andthen just that's how it sank.

Speaker 2 (01:34:51):
Now, how do they allegedly find out that this is
actually the olympic?

Speaker 1 (01:34:58):
there is supposedly images online that I've even
seen, but again, with today'stechnology, I don't know if they
could be altered with photoshopand made really good well, they
most certainly can yeah, yeah,you can make anything look
realistic, especially,especially with AI too.

Speaker 2 (01:35:13):
now, yeah, Like it's crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:35:16):
And so there's some photos of the bow section,
because that has the mostlegible handwriting of where
they wrote Titanic, and thepaint is still somewhat there,
but not as much anymore.
But you can see in some ofthese pictures from earlier
years when they went down forexpeditions, that they had where

(01:35:40):
you could see an O and a Y, andobviously Titanic does not have
an O or Y in it, correct.
And same thing with the stern,because on the back of the stern
, at least where it's legible,they have Titanic, liverpool on
the back and you can see an Oand a Y and an L and that's

(01:36:05):
pretty much where that's at.
So it's like, okay, this isseeming to be a little bit more
of towards you switch the boatsbecause insurance, and then also
again with the whole JP Morganwhere there are certain
competitors that oh yeah, comeon our ship, it's all good.
And then they ended up killing1,500 people in the process.

Speaker 2 (01:36:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:36:30):
And John Jacob Astor, that's what his name was.
John Jacob Astor in the process.
Yeah, and john jacob astor,that's what his name was.
John jacob astor, um, I, andagain I don't know if he's the
one that died or if he's the theinventor.
Oh, no, bruce ismay is the onewho, uh, helped, uh, with the,
the uh commercial side, I guess,or the, the idea of titanic.
Um, so, john jacob ast, Ibelieve he died On the boat, but

(01:36:55):
he was one of the competitorsOf JP Morgan and JP Morgan,
conveniently, if I remember thiscorrectly, canceled his ticket
last second.
So if you already know that theboat is doomed and you're
sending your competitors on that, the ship of dreams, there you

(01:37:20):
go.

Speaker 2 (01:37:21):
No more competition or it all adds up.

Speaker 1 (01:37:23):
Yup, exactly.
And then, um, I forget theother conspiracy theory too.
It's nothing like they theyswitched or whatever.
But there's some otherconspiracy about Titanic.
Where it it?
Oh yeah, that's what it was.
It wasn't an iceberg that sankit, it was like a submarine.
But yeah, I don't thinksubmarines were invented back
then in 1912 if they weren't, itwas getting close because

(01:37:48):
submarines were in world war oneyeah, so they were getting
close, but even at that, nighttime if a submarine was under
the water and shot at thetitanic, I don't think it would
have survived like long,especially under like how cold
it was, because it was 28degrees fahrenheit yeah, and we

(01:38:10):
that's cold yeah we don't evenknow for sure what kind of
technology people have had forhowever long.
Exactly so.
Yeah, because back then theycould have had stuff that we
probably not like what we havetoday, like an iPhone, but they
probably had something that waslike close to where they could
have done something to the boatthat made it purposely steer

(01:38:33):
towards an iceberg.

Speaker 2 (01:38:34):
Yeah, like the cabin has no control or whatever Right
or something like that.
Yeah, I bet they.

Speaker 1 (01:38:39):
And plus, too, it's like you're basing your turning
and your whole mechanisms onsteam.
Because it was all cold powerback then, because steam liners
were like the big thing backthen, because you were done with
sailboats and stuff like thatas your modern day cruise ship,
and now you're on to steampowered.
Yeah, revolutionary at the time.

(01:39:01):
So, and fun fact, titanic onlyhad three working funnels.
The fourth one was just therefor decoration.
It was there just to vent outthe uh and other stuff from the
smoking rooms and stuff on board.

Speaker 2 (01:39:17):
And the kitchen.

Speaker 1 (01:39:18):
Yeah, and also too, it was there mainly, too, to
make it look more powerful,Because most steamboats only had
three, and so they wanted theirships to look bigger and more
muscular, tougher, so why notadd a fourth smokestack?

Speaker 2 (01:39:35):
Yeah, why not add a fifth one?

Speaker 1 (01:39:37):
Yeah or a sixth.
Imagine, it's just like a3,000-foot ship with like 12
smokestacks.

Speaker 2 (01:39:45):
Stefan 3,000-foot ship.
How far along was Titanic?
You don't even know.

Speaker 1 (01:39:53):
I don't know as much of a Titanic enthusiast I know
it was three football fieldslong.
It was over three footballfields long.

Speaker 2 (01:40:00):
So about 900 plus feet, that's a big boat.

Speaker 1 (01:40:04):
Yeah, it is, but the icon of the sea is really huge
too.
Hold on Titanic.
We're going to need a biggerboat 883 feet, that's how long
it was, so almost three footballfields, yeah icon of just shy
seas length, that one okay, sothat one's 1196, so almost 1200

(01:40:30):
feet, and that's the biggestship, uh, right now on the seas
made by man, so that thing canfit over is there any ships on
the sea that aren't made by man?
Ufo ships.
Yeah, I'm sure they probablythey probably oh you almost

(01:40:51):
caught me off with that one.
I was like oh crap, I don'thave anything for this, All
right.
So what is your conspiracy thatyou want to talk?

Speaker 2 (01:41:01):
about the moon landing.

Speaker 1 (01:41:04):
Tell us more.
The viewers would love to know.

Speaker 2 (01:41:07):
Well, I lean more towards on the side that the
moon landing was not real.

Speaker 1 (01:41:14):
And why do you think that Dramatic pause?

Speaker 2 (01:41:21):
Because we've only been there one time, yep, and
all of the footage looks like itcould be faked.
There's no wind on the moon.
Why is the flag waving?
That's true, but my biggest?
There's no wind on the moon,why?

Speaker 1 (01:41:32):
is the flag waving.

Speaker 2 (01:41:33):
That's true but my biggest, my the it's not even
really the footage, like I don'tknow.
They could easily you couldeasily fake any footage.
But the biggest thing is, whydid we only go there once?
We've never gone back, and nowwe have a space station where
the astronauts are stuck inthere.
I think they may have gottenout.

Speaker 1 (01:41:53):
I think they got out now yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:41:55):
But they were stuck up there for however long, and
they can only bring like foodand stuff up to them and we
can't go to the moon again.
Right, like that's how bad ourtechnology is is that astronauts
are getting stuck in spacestations.
So it seems like our technologyhas gotten worse and it seems

(01:42:15):
like it was only done to scarethe russians during the cold war
I, I can agree with that.

Speaker 1 (01:42:22):
Um yeah, because it was all about power and who got
to what first yes, exactly andso, yeah, if america got on the
moon first, then oh, shoot now.
What you?
Now, what are you going to do?
Russia, you know what I mean,right?

Speaker 2 (01:42:34):
If you're in a Cold War, with people threatening
each other, and all of a sudden,one of you is able to go to the
moon.
It's like man if they have thattechnology, well, what else do
they?

Speaker 1 (01:42:43):
have.
Well, it's even the same thingtoo with like.
So how you're saying like fakefootage and stuff.
So I think it was when theywere testing the first nuclear
bomb, or I think it might havebeen during the Cold War or
something like that.
They have footage of like thenuke going off.
This is the funny part.
You can tell this is a hugeconspiracy theory too, because,

(01:43:05):
again, I think it ties in withthe whole moon landing and the
Cold War.
It better.

Speaker 2 (01:43:11):
You keep getting all about that.

Speaker 1 (01:43:12):
No, I'm sorry.
It triggers something in myhead where it's like okay no,
it's all funny so and so there,the bomb goes off yeah and you
see a house like so, for onewhen a nuke goes off, you cannot
record that unless you aremiles upon miles away, first of
all.
Second of all, if you eventhink you're gonna get close to

(01:43:36):
that without any kind ofradiation or death, you're not.
You're gonna die or get severeradiation poisoning to the point
of death.
So either way you're dead yeahthey have in the footage,
somebody that's really close toa house now sounds normal.

(01:43:56):
So the nuke's going off, thehouse is right there.
Like you could like look up andthere's the house right there
in front of you.
The nuke blasts away at thehouse, but before you see the
nuke demolish the house, house.

(01:44:18):
But before you see the nukedemolish the house randomly, a
car just kind of into existence,like in the garage, like the
garage door was closed, and thenall of a sudden the car
disappears.
No, the car is just inexistence, like it was not there
before, the garage door wasclosed or whatever.
And then it's just the carsthere right before the nuke goes
off and then it demolishes thehouse because it's showing the
destruction of a nuke.

(01:44:39):
The film would not be able tosurvive a nuclear blast for one.
Obviously the person would notbe that's filming.
It would not be able to.

Speaker 2 (01:44:49):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:44:51):
And then they had like other pieces of like stuff
that looked like trees and stufflike that that looked fake.
But the house was the mostconvincing one to be like.
This is fake, like 100, becauseno one would be able to get
that close to a nuclear blastand live to be able to record it
.
So then they showed that off toI believe it was the russians

(01:45:11):
during the cold war and they'relike america's got like bombs,
dude, like so you're saying thecar?

Speaker 2 (01:45:19):
I'm a little confused with the car.

Speaker 1 (01:45:21):
So the car is there.
Pretend this is the house yesstory time children show and
tell.
So this is the house for audiolisteners.

Speaker 2 (01:45:31):
He's showing us an arizona can with with a nappy
kid with a microfiber glassescleaner yeah, cloth.

Speaker 1 (01:45:40):
So the, the bomb's going off, and right before it
touches, before you see, likethe impact of the destruction of
the house yeah there's no carthere, right yeah this is the
car.
It just appears out of nowherebefore the bomb before the bomb

(01:46:00):
hits it like.
The bomb is like right here,within inches from the house
yeah no car is in sight.
And then, right as it makescontact with the house, you just
see a car randomly appear.

Speaker 2 (01:46:13):
And then, once the impact happens, the car is gone.

Speaker 1 (01:46:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:46:18):
Quote unquote gone Quote unquote gone.

Speaker 1 (01:46:20):
So that's where I'm thinking like, yeah, they
probably faked it because, again, it was during the Cold War.

Speaker 2 (01:46:26):
So what makes it more sense?
How could they mess that upwith that such bad editing?

Speaker 1 (01:46:29):
Well, back then you can't do't do like what you can
now, where you can make like ai,look like something's actually
on fire, like you were verylimited on technology back then,
so basically anything on tv.
It's kind of like the twilightzone, you know, where they like
kind of make stories like whereit seems like legit and then
it's like but it's not, it's inin the Twilight Zone, right.

Speaker 2 (01:46:52):
But I'm saying like, why couldn't they have the car
sitting there before the blasthits the house and then just
edit it out?
Why do they like, have theblast coming in, there's no car,
it just like, appears for asecond and then disappears.

Speaker 1 (01:47:08):
So to the naked eye, especially how you couldn't just
rewind stuff back then either.

Speaker 2 (01:47:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:47:15):
To the naked eye.
You're just going to see a nukego off and it's just going to
demolish the house.

Speaker 2 (01:47:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:47:21):
And nobody is perfect when it comes to camera.
I don't know if choreography isthe word for it, but like
camera control for motionpictures.

Speaker 2 (01:47:37):
So okay, rewinding back choreographies for dancing.
I don't know what the correctterm is that you're looking for,
but I know what you're talkingabout yeah, so like the like,
the placement of things in amovie so and again rewinding
back to, as an example, in jamescameron's titanic.

Speaker 1 (01:47:51):
There's scene and they had a lot of movie mistakes
and stuff like that in therethat you wouldn't catch because
everything's happening so quickbut there's a scene where it's
when Jack is entering, he's inthe tuxedo like he's going down
to the dining hall because hejust saved Rose from falling off
the stern of the boat and youcan see the camera guy in the

(01:48:13):
reflection of the glass and it'slike, okay, we're back in 1912
and you can see a reflection ofa modern day guy with a camera,
jeans, levi's and like nikesokay, so your point is mistakes
happen mistakes happen.
And so with that they wereprobably like, oh crap, phil, we

(01:48:34):
gotta put a car right there.
And then just they put a carright there, yeah.
And so if, if you were arussian dude and you saw that
and you were like, oh man, theunited states isn't like kidding
around, like they're literallylike powerful.
Same thing with the moonlanding, you know, they're not
going to know what gravity islike at that point.
If they, the Russians, werejust getting ready to land on

(01:48:56):
the moon or get ready to go upto the moon, but we somehow beat
them to it, they're not goingto know that.
There's not wind or there's notzero gravity at that point.
So they're like holy crap, theydid what we were just about to
do or couldn't do right now.
So yeah, I can.

(01:49:17):
I can now see more of yourunderstanding where it's like
there ain't no way that thatmoon landing was real at that
point yeah, because I just don't.

Speaker 2 (01:49:26):
I I don't understand why we haven't gone back.
Because you think that would bemore expeditions and more
expeditions and it'd be amazingto go up there, but we just
haven't done it.
Because you think there wouldbe more expeditions and more
expeditions and it'd be amazingto go up there, but we just
haven't done it.

Speaker 1 (01:49:35):
Again, we can't figure out the technology
exactly you don't even talkabout spending money right like
yeah, there's plenty of peoplethat, like they, there's money
laying around like you can do it.
And nasa's still doing stuff tothis day, even though they're
not as, like I guess, bigcompared to what they used to be
.
Like if you heard like a spaceshuttle was going to taco bell,

(01:49:56):
you would hear about it.
But nowadays space station goingto taco bell yeah but, like
nowadays, it's like you rarelyhear anything, if at all, about
nasa anymore.
So it's like, yeah, you, youhave billions upon billions of
dollars because it's all in theUnited States research facility

(01:50:17):
that you're going to beexploring planetary like objects
and expeditions, that you'regoing to go on, you have the
money and resources to do it,and you're telling me you're
just done.
No, you're not done.
Something's up, and I thinkthey are secretly in a way.
They're just not.
So here's the thing too is,even with that conspiracy theory

(01:50:40):
is, if people find out likeNASA's like back doing stuff,
you know there's ways of liketaking people out from it, not
getting exploited to media.

Speaker 2 (01:50:51):
Oh yeah, Believe me, I know.

Speaker 1 (01:50:53):
Right.
So it's like you could.
You would think like maybe weare visiting the moon.
I believe we still are.
They're just saying we're notbecause they're like, oh well, I
guess we're done with space labresearch and then they might
know something that we don'tknow.
So because they don't want tocause like a worldwide panic or
something stupid like that, youknow whatever.
And then some guy on his uhiphone 16 is recording a space

(01:51:17):
shuttle launching and then it'slike, okay, well, we don't want
you to see that, so we're justgonna take you out.
So there's, yeah, there's,there's ways and stuff of making
sure people keep quiet, whetherit's being threatened with

(01:51:38):
death or money or whatever,because the government did the
same thing with the guy with thewater car.

Speaker 2 (01:51:45):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:51:46):
Yeah, he made a car that he could drive from New
York to California on like what?
One tank, or he could driveboth ways back on one tank with
just water vapor.
And then somebody found outabout it and then he
mysteriously died and then thecar mysteriously was taken away.
Yeah, yeah, there's somethingthat they just because think

(01:52:10):
about it too.
Even that perspective of thatis if you have something that
they just because think about ittoo.
Even in that perspective thatis, if you have something that's
going to last a long time,where you don't need to fill it
or pay for it, it's justbasically free water vapor that
goes back into the clouds andthen rains back down.
It's just a recycle of justresources.

Speaker 2 (01:52:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:52:31):
We have gasoline.
It's almost $4 a gallon here inmichigan.
You're not in control at thatpoint.
It's all free.
But as it says in there, moneyis the root of all evil money is
the root of all kinds of evil.
Yeah, so yeah, yeah, at thatpoint.

(01:52:51):
Yeah, because money you can useit for good, for sure it's not
like all evil, but because moneyyou can use it for good, for
sure it's not like all evil, butyeah, it's mostly you can use
it for evil.
And so, yeah, why are you goingto build a one-time reliable
water car that all you have todo is go to your toilet and fill
it with water from there andthen just be able to drive
around you?

Speaker 2 (01:53:09):
know what I mean.
Yeah, I know drive.
You know what I?

Speaker 1 (01:53:11):
mean, yeah, I know, and, but then you're paying four
dollars a gallon.
So these oil companies andpeople are just making money off
four dollars a gallon, or tendollars a gallon, however much
they're charging in differentstates or different countries.
You know, it's all about powerand money.
At that point, nothing iswanting to be free or help the
greater good.

Speaker 2 (01:53:31):
Right, it all has to be.

Speaker 1 (01:53:33):
Exactly Money.

Speaker 2 (01:53:34):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:53:37):
So that's where I can totally agree with your whole
thing about there's cover-upsfor stuff, easy and just to be
all powerful.
At that point, to prove a point, oh, we're better than you.
We landed on the moon first.
Now you were at studio 28.
That's where you were at man,studio 28 that's crazy yeah, but

(01:54:03):
yeah.
So I I agree with you now,because I used to kind of go
both ways where it's like, oh no, it could be real.
I mean, I haven't personallybeen to the moon, but at the
same time yeah me neither.
Yeah, but at the same time,though, it's kind of like I
don't think If space is thislike null place where it's like

(01:54:25):
nothing, like there's no aircurrent, there's no oxygen, I
really do wonder why God createdthe universe, probably.

Speaker 2 (01:54:35):
What are the point of all these other planets and
galaxies?

Speaker 1 (01:54:37):
well, here's the other thing too.
Here's, here's my, here's mything.
Right, so they can make asatellite telescope thing that
takes pictures of, like you,like, universes and galaxies
trillions of light years awayfrom our planet, but yet my home
wi-fi doesn't work.
If I'm outside of my window,you can't tell me, you can't

(01:55:02):
make something better for us atthat point.
Come on, I.
That's where I'm like at thispoint, like I can probably think
our universe is not as big aswhat they're making it out to be
.
Because if again, relating itback to what I just said about
wi-fi and a satellite how do youhave that much range to go

(01:55:25):
light years away into othergalaxies and still get perfect
4k resolution photos of themilky way galaxy and all this
other crap in another like milkyway 2.0, like, again, light
years away, but yet myplaystation 5 crashes when I'm

(01:55:47):
trying to play fortnite becauseI'm downstairs in a basement,
like something's up.
At that point I don't thinkit's as big as they're making it
out to be and they're lyingabout some stuff because there's
no way that they have that muchof a range connection from one
itty-bitty planet in this giantuniverse to see other places

(01:56:10):
like that, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:56:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:56:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:56:17):
I know what you're saying, but it is getting late.
It's already 11, 15, it's aquarter after one, unless you
have any uh, anything elsethat's stimulating conversation,
because I am about to fallasleep yeah, same here too um a
little bit well, hold on, holdon, hold on, oh, but wait

(01:56:40):
there's more, but wait there'smore.

Speaker 1 (01:56:43):
um, the last kind of thing I guess I would just it's
like a small conspiracy is the Iwould think, the Bermuda
triangle in a way.

Speaker 2 (01:56:56):
Oh man, Well, like we should save this for a full
episode where I have more energy, cause it'd be more fun to go
into a deep dive of the Bermudatriangle.
Yeah, cause that, that Iactually do research and we can
talk about one thing for thewhole time.
I think that'd be cool, cause Ithink, and we can talk about
one thing for the whole time.

Speaker 1 (01:57:13):
I think that'd be cool.
Yeah, because I think you couldprobably talk more about the
moon landing at that point, LikeI can talk about Titanic.
I could talk about Titanic foran entire episode.

Speaker 2 (01:57:21):
Yeah, we know we could even do a Titanic episode,
but right now I got to go tobed.

Speaker 1 (01:57:28):
All right, same here, folks.
Thank you for joining us.

Speaker 2 (01:57:31):
Yeah, thanks for listening.
Don't forget to fact checkeverything that you heard today.

Speaker 1 (01:57:36):
Yep and prove us wrong or right or right.

Speaker 2 (01:57:40):
And have a blessed week.
Thanks, bye, bye.

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