December 15, 2024 • 53 mins
Why does a man resort to assassination over a denied healthcare claim?" Join us on an eye-opening journey as we unearth the moral complexities and ethical dilemmas within America's healthcare system. We explore the harrowing story of Luigi, a man pushed to the brink by the bureaucratic indifference that cost his mother her life, prompting him to take drastic action against a CEO. As we unravel this gripping narrative, we scrutinize the broader consequences of profit-driven healthcare practices, and ask tough questions about accountability for both corporate leaders and individuals like Luigi, who pay a steep price for taking justice into their own hands.
The tangled web of greed and corruption within the insurance industry is laid bare in our discussion, as we dissect the illusions of coverage and protection sold to policyholders. We draw parallels between the burdens of maintaining necessities like car insurance and the privileges that shield the wealthy from similar fates. Through the lens of Luigi's controversial act, we confront the stark discrepancies in justice and privilege that permeate our society. The conversation widens to include tales of corporate misconduct, such as the fallout experienced by a McDonald's employee, illustrating the public's growing discontent with corporate America's priorities.
In our final act, we pivot to the power of communities and the role of genuine Christian values in fostering resilience and unity. We challenge the commercialization of religion and draw contrasts with the grassroots strength found in tight-knit communities. Critiques of obscene CEO bonuses offer a backdrop for our call to action, urging listeners to unite across political lines to demand fairness and equity in corporate practices. By the episode's end, we invite reflection on the potential for societal change, driven by collective voices rising against economic inequality.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Stephan, what's your opinion on the CEO assassination
?
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Yeah, so that's been a thing for a second now.
And it's getting, I think, moreprogressively worse in that
aspect for CEOs, because a lotof CEOs are either going into
hiding or they're literallycaving into whatever people are
wanting, or just showing thatthey're not going to be like
(00:28):
healthcare CEOs that don'treally give a crap about if
you're sick or not.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Yeah, but do you think that he should have killed
him?
Here's my opinion on it.
Oh, you're starting with the.
Here's my opinion.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
That's how you always got to start it out, you got to
get some going.
You're starting with the here'smy answer.
That's how you always got tostart it out.
Yeah, get some going.
So my thing is yes, I think itwas wrong to kill him, but I
will say that somethingdefinitely should have been done
about it.
In regards to so this guy knowswillingly or the CEO that once
existed once knew that he'sdenying hundreds of thousands of
(01:07):
claims a year.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Yeah well, they make money off that.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Yeah, they do make money off death.
That's the thing, and theydon't really show any remorse.
I'm not expecting them to belike woe is me and help every
case.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Well, it's more so.
They get money off of denying,not necessarily like the person
dying Right, maybe they do, Idon't know actually.
But I also know thatUnitedHealthcare had like a 39%
denial rate, which is awfulRight.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
And they also, too, had a thing where I think the
numbers were they made one year$6.
Something million off claimsand stuff that got denied and
they somehow made a 13 milliondollar profit the next year.
Yeah, so it's like, okay, howdoes it go from one year you
(01:55):
have half of that and then thenext year you're doubling?
You know what I mean?
Yeah, like that seems a littleoff to me, especially when
you're denying all these claims,like yeah, certain people can't
afford certain coverages.
But at the same time, it's likewhy are you jacking up the
price of coverages?
Like sometimes, what thesehealth care professionals will
do anyway is if you have anupset stomach and they don't
(02:17):
feel like checking you out,they'll just slap a band-aid on
it, call it good and kick youout the door.
That's what they do yeah andthey deny your claim, even
though you could probably haveyou know, hopefully not happen,
but like a tumor or somethinglike that happening in your
stomach or wherever and youdon't know what it is.
But because they're just like,oh, it's just a stomach pain,
(02:38):
whatever, they'll just kick youout, call it good.
I'm not saying every place doesthat, but I'm pretty sure with
right now again for unitedhealth care, where you show the
six million dollar to 13 milliondollar ratio, it's a little
excessive yeah, I just thinkinsurance, especially health
care insurance, is just dirtywell, yeah, gross.
(03:01):
Well, yeah, because even with myglasses, for example, that I
wear, right like, you know howbad my eyesight is.
Yeah, it's awful, these looklike bifocals, so they're thick
lenses, but you know it's like,yeah, insurance covers most of
it, but if I'm paying a certaindollar amount out of my paycheck
, which you are right, which Iam, and I'm also paying that
(03:24):
towards health, where, ifanything happens at the hospital
where I need to go, then I havemy insurance that covers it.
How is it that you're notproviding technically full
coverage at that point?
If I have full coverage, likethat would just essentially be
coming out of my paycheck.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, so for people to havethis assumption that like, oh,
(03:46):
yeah, no, yeah, no, they'recovering stuff for like how
Luigi's mom was, like she hadlike severe nerve damage.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
And Luigi being the assassin.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
His mom had like some kind ofnerve damage thing or something
where she was like screaming inthe middle of the night and day
because of how bad the pain was,yeah and um.
Then that's when he tried toget, you know, the insurance to
cover for the surgery orsomething.
I guess they said somethinglike there was a surgery that
(04:18):
was available for her to takeaway that pain, um, and they
ended up denying that and that'swhat caused that whole thing,
because she ended up, I think,dying is what I remember seeing,
and that's when theassassination happened with the
CEO, and how I look at it too.
Is these guys at even like justhealth insurance, for example,
(04:42):
like how is it it that they?
Is it just because they'reexcept they're getting it
legally, like documented, andgetting legal currency that they
are able to kill, essentially,millions of people?
Speaker 1 (04:57):
and yeah, because they're technically they're
killing people indirectly, right?
Speaker 2 (05:01):
so I mean they're killing but because it's written
documentation and whatever,it's okay.
But Luigi, either way it'sstill wrong.
But Luigi then kills the CEOand he's in jail right now.
So this CEO guy denying claims,obviously not him well, he's
(05:23):
not going to be denying themright, not anymore.
But yeah, it's like his familyliterally like is sitting here
and they're like what was me?
Yeah, it's a sad time, but like, how do you not know or care
enough that your husband isdenying people and not helping
them?
Because that's the whole thingabout doctors is that they're
there to help you.
A homeless guy can be on thestreet with no id or anything
(05:46):
and go into the er and legallythe hospital has to help them
out and there's no way for ahomeless guy to obviously pay so
they can just walk awayscot-free.
If they have like an, a legthat is being eaten up by
bacteria because of you know,they're homeless and they got
all that disease and stuff, theyhave to amputate it, stitch it
(06:08):
up, they have a stump, give themwheelchair or crutches or a
prosthetic and then the guywalks away free well, it comes
out of taxpayer, well yeahtaxpayer money, which still
sucks because it's like, cool,you're not trying to get
yourself a job, even though,yeah, you're homeless and it's
you know whatever.
Not a whole lot of people aretrusting today too, with that
crap yeah, well, it also dependson why they're homeless.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Yeah, do they have a really bad mental issue?
Speaker 2 (06:33):
or is it just like some bad stuff happened in their
life, like they got evicted ora divorce or something like that
?
You know, I can understand that.
The one sad thing is the vetsyeah the vets like how there's
not enough shelters for them atthat point.
I'm a big military supporter,so yeah, the whole health care
system is like screwed up withthat whole thing with insurance
(06:55):
claims and everything yeah, Iwould say that obviously jesus
wouldn't want somebody killing arich person or the CEO, like we
both agree with that.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
but it does say something about the American
healthcare system and I don'tknow if universal healthcare
would be good or bad.
You know there's so muchpropaganda about how bad it is
that we hear like, oh, we had towait so long in line, people in
Canada, right.
So I don't know if that'spropaganda or if it really would
(07:26):
be bad for universal healthcare.
So I'm not like advocating foruniversal health care, but I
also.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
something has to change I feel like it's a
mixture of both on that one, butyeah, there does need something
to change like obviously, insome aspects, there are people
that do actually need the healthcare that anyone provides, but
then there's people that abuseit, like there's a show called
my 600 pound life, for example.
(07:52):
Those people just they chose toget fat.
Yeah, that fat like that's onyou, then at that point that's
like if you're trying toactually get better and you want
to lose the weight or getsurgery for whatever, then cool,
then provide it.
But if you're just fat, becauseyou're fat and you don't want
to do anything and you're justslouching in bed hoping to get
(08:14):
painkillers and stuff, becauseyou're a drug addict like
there's one guy named steve thatwas on the show like no, I'm
sorry, like you trash on thestreet.
There has to be nuance whereit's like stuff like that we
should not cover because theychose that life yeah to become
bigger than ever exactly samething with drug addicts too, in
(08:35):
a way like you get like methheads on the street and
everything like that.
I'm sorry you chose that lifeand you're clearly not wanting
to get better, even though it'slike, yeah, it's a very
addictive drug, but you knewtaking that it was addictive
yeah so that's on you if youhave any kind of health issues
later on down the road.
Like there have been people thatI've known that have been like
(08:57):
x meth heads and it was a girlthat I used to work with I'm not
obviously going to name thework facility that I used to
work for Right, but she used tobe a meth head.
She had a meth lab andeverything else and she went to
jail for it and then she gotreleased and, yeah, she chose to
clean up her life, though,because she realized it was
screwing her up.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
So if you have that realization, then good for you,
but otherwise, yeah, I don'tthink health care should provide
anything for anybody at thatpoint.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
If they are just like , nope, I'm gonna just go right
back to smoking meth or whateverthey do.
Yeah, because rehab could costa lot.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Yeah, someone to get off exactly drugs and well and
even same thing with alcohol too.
At that point you know, there'salcohol abuse.
There was a guy on a tv showthat had, I think he he was
getting drunk 26 years of hislife and then, as soon as he
went to rehab to get rid of thatcrap, his bloodstream was so
used to the alcohol that he diedas soon as, like I think it was
like a month later or somethinglike that, after he went and
(09:57):
yeah, I know, like with heroinand stuff, they actually have to
wean people off it slowlybecause that's so used to it.
You you could die from it.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Yeah, from not getting it, which is crazy to
think about.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Oh yeah, well, and then to also, um, just to kind
of uh, another uh insurancecompany I think it was blue
cross, blue shield Um, wherewere the people in this case?
But there's a girl namedMiranda, or something along the
lines of that, that justrecently got uh arrested and
she's in jail right now.
(10:28):
Um, she I think it's madison,that's kind of more ringing a
bell mass and she, so she justuh was trying to get something
either for her or her daughter,because they were sick yeah and
what happened was she called theinsurance company and they
denied her claim for whateverwas happening.
And then she used the threefamous lines like deny defend,
(10:52):
depose yeah depose, yeah, andshe said you're next, which,
yeah, like, obviously comes offas a threat.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
But she didn't have anything planned or nothing else
.
But she didn't have anythingplanned or nothing else.
But that's again.
(11:34):
What's happening in this worldcurrently is that you have now
ever since this tired of howwe've been abused for years,
because everybody else canafford all this wonderful health
care stuff.
Like there's people that theyprobably again have a cure for
cancer and they're not going toshare it with anybody.
That's of the lower class.
But they'll show it with Dwaynethe Rock Johnson.
They'll show it with, like youknow, johnson.
They'll show it with, like youknow, rosie o'donnell if they
want to because they got money.
Yeah, and that's what it boilsdown to, and that's where it
says too in the bible that it'slike money is the root of all
evil.
And so here's a prime examplethese ceos, health cares, every
(11:58):
bit of insurance, is all powerhungry with money.
Because even if I have fullcoverage on my accord, for
example for my car insurance, itmay say full coverage, but is
it really?
Speaker 1 (12:13):
full coverage well, I think insurance in general is a
scam yeah, because I have Ithink I have comprehensive but
say I did have plpd insurance onmy car which is zero coverage
coverage.
What am I paying for?
Because if I get in an accidentthey're not covering my car,
they're not covering the otherperson's car, right, and it's
just a way for the government toget more money.
(12:34):
Like, hey, you need to pay thismoney so you can have your car
on the road.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Right, and it's like okay, so it's not like we're
already.
Like, if you've seen the cardealership and the car stock
market in general, like trucksare over a hundred thousand
dollars, like that's not enoughmoney right there, yeah, and
then you have to also pay forthe registration right the
registration or any state parkpasses, anything like that.
(12:58):
You know it's just.
It's ridiculous like you can'teven do anything without paying
for it nowadays like heck, evendrawing like there's, you have
to buy the pencil and paper,which is whatever.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
But I mean, I'm just saying, you know yeah, it's just
something that more and morestuff that you have to pay for
for virtually everything.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Right, or even same thing with like I don't know,
like guns and stuff like that.
I, I own one and it's like youhave to pay for registration for
it and all this other stuff,which is fine, but at the same
time, too, it's not fine,because it's like, okay, you're
already paying for the gun andyou have to turn in the
paperwork to the policedepartment so they can have that
(13:41):
, but there's also a processingfee for it, so they can have
that but there's also aprocessing fee for it.
So it's like why do I need topay for the gun when I'm
literally giving it to thepolice officer at the station to
show that I have a gun in theevent that there is any crime or
anything like that happening?
Like they can pinpoint?
Forensics have gotten reallygood at this point where, like
(14:02):
how they found the bulletcasings and everything like that
, and another story aboutforensics and how good they've
gotten to with this whole ceothing um, yeah, I want to go
back into, yeah, that part ofthe story.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
No, it's all kind of like dying in yeah, but yeah,
like they can trace backanything that happens.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
So if something happens to another ceo and they
happen to use something similarto mine or whatever, then they
can track that and be like, okay, well, the shell casing came
from this thing.
These are the only guns that cantake it.
So and then, speaking of howforensics and everything else
with, like, finding people hasgotten better, so this guy off a
(14:38):
website where they sellbackpacks and other luggage
things, a website where theysell backpacks and other luggage
things, they actually were ableto trace the backpack that
Luigi used in the assassinationfrom this guy.
It's like Peak something is thecompany, yeah, and they traced
him through the serial number onthe bag from the receipt to
(14:59):
pinpoint where this guy was,along with you, finding him at
mcdonald's, which that girl,nancy parker, little snitch, was
sitting there and she shouldhave just put the fries in the
bag at that point.
I'm sorry, but this guy istrying to prove a point that the
american, you know, health careinsurance companies are scams
(15:21):
yeah, but he did kill somebodyhe did, which I still will agree
is wrong and he shouldn't havedone it, but something should
have.
And I'm putting that literally,you seem torn which I think a
lot of people are.
It's torn, but it's more ofwhat's right and what's wrong at
that point, yeah, was it rightfor the, the health, these
health care insurances, to dowhat they're doing right now
(15:43):
with denying people?
Speaker 1 (15:44):
no, no it's not it's indirect murder too, so it's
like well in yeah, indirectmurder, and then it's also too.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Did luigi do the right thing by killing the ceo
to prove a statement no but yesat the same time, and he made a
statement in the wrong way yeah,that's what I would say.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
The statement, the statement is good, but he went
about it the wrong way exactly.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
So that's a good way of putting it yeah, and I, and
again with me, I agree that thatwas wrong what he did.
And yeah, maybe some jail time,obviously some.
Well, you know what I?
Speaker 1 (16:18):
mean he's going to jail for a while.
He ain't gonna.
You know, it's not gonna belike a life sentence if you kill
somebody who's rich andimportant you don't know is it
life, or do you know how long hegot I?
Speaker 2 (16:33):
don't know if it's life, but I know they're not
doing anything like a deathsentence as far as I know yet.
It's still kind of early todetermine.
Yeah, what if that would be?
Speaker 1 (16:43):
crazy.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Yeah, and you do bring up a good point where it's
like, if you kill someone rich,but yet the rich like, for
example, everybody knows thisnow the story of alec baldwin,
where he had the prop gun and heshot one of the cast members
that were part of the movie andthe blank bullet ended up not
being a blank bullet and endedup being real yeah and it's like
he can get away with it andplead not guilty and he just has
(17:05):
to pay a uh, a fine.
You know what I mean and he can,and but again, it's alec
boldwin versus this luigi guythat nobody knows at that point
yeah, so money really is allpower at that point I mean
there's clear we I mean we justtalked about this in the last
episode.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
I don't know if you had a chance to listen to that
one, but it was like pretty muchall about money and how
basically Jesus, and even in thewords of James and the in a lot
of the Bible they do talk abouthow being rich for the most
part just isn't a good thing.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Right, yeah, it's not like It'll consume you at that
point.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
It pretty much consumes everyone.
Jesus basically says it isimpossible to get into heaven if
you're rich.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Right, and don't get me wrong, a lot of extra money
would help, I'm sure, foreverybody.
Well, yeah, but it also dependson what you do with that money
too, because obviously there'speople that could use it for
good, like donations, charity,whatever, and then you get the
people that would use it for bad, like Diddy or Hugh Hefner.
(18:14):
They'll just use it for you.
I'm just saying, like HughHefner, bringing up two perverts
.
Yeah, two perverts, literallyOne with baby oil and one with
bunnies.
So that's the thing is, it allcomes to money and power at that
point, and when the ceo here's.
The other thing too is thatthis guy, I think, had a 1.5
million dollar salary or morefor and, and then it showed like
(18:37):
um, I think he made like 19.8billion in claims, or something
like that, for the company, forthe company, yeah.
So it's like, okay, this guyclearly is well set for the rest
of his life, but yet he can gohome and sleep soundly, knowing
that he indirectly killedthousands of people in one day.
Pretty much I would say yeah,because it's, it's united.
(19:00):
Health care is not just in onegeneral section, you know of the
united states.
It's everywhere, yeah so, yeah,every day there's thousands of
people that die, not just in theunited states, but around the
world too now back to the nancyparker.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Was she working at mcdonald's?
Speaker 2 (19:17):
yeah, she was working at mcdonald's during that shift
and what ended up happening wasis I guess she saw somebody
that looked suspicious, like theyou know, the assassin that
killed the ceo yeah and so she,this dumb girl, called the 911
line instead of the hotline toget the sixty thousand dollar
(19:37):
reward for turning in luigi, andshe obviously didn't get the
money and she's not going to getthe money.
But she received so muchbacklash and she was receiving
threats and everything like thatthat McDonald's had to let her
go.
And here's the dumb reason whyMcDonald's let her go.
It wasn't just the publicityand everything like that, it was
(19:59):
because she contacted the copsand was outside talking to them
during her shift.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
So she technically wasn't working, so she
technically wasn't working.
She technically wasn't workingthat's funny yeah, so first of
all, mcdonald's is stupid well,getting fired from mcdonald's
has to be one of the best thingsto happen to someone yeah, but
it's also mcdonald's looking atit.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
They I mean mcdonald's is already crooks, if
you know the backstory to that.
The guy stole the business fromtwo brothers that started the
business and now it's this giantchain of fast food.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
The most big corporations, I would say and I
say most, because there are somegood ones are rooted in evil
and power and money.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Exactly, and so you know obviously everybody goes to
McDonald's.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
I would also like to say I would not have recognized
Luigi if I saw him anywhere.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
I wouldn't have either.
But it also doesn't even looklike the guy If you look at the
CCTV camera.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
With the famous smile thing.
Yeah, yeah, I would have neverfound that guy.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
No, absolutely not.
And the other funny part is toois I don't know if you noticed
this too.
And the other funny part is,too is I don't know if you
noticed this too.
So the Altoona McDonald's inPennsylvania that they found
this guy in received one starratings and was saying, like you
guys have a rat infestation.
And there was I'm not evenjoking on this, just for comedy
(21:18):
relief but there was one personthat said, yeah, I saw an
employee take a dump on thefloor and everybody just watched
and did not do anything toclean it up.
This is the most disgustingestablishment ever.
Not even joking, it was anactual review.
Yeah, I was like what the heck?
So the altuna mcdonald'sliterally took down reviews and
(21:41):
like where I think they'relocated and all this other stuff
too.
So you can't even like look upthat.
You can look it up and whatever, but you can't like get
directions to it or anythinglike that anymore, even though
people know where it's at.
But there's a lot of people inretaliation to mcdonald's now
there's a lot of people inretaliation to that peak design
I think that's what it's calledis peak Design, the bag where
(22:03):
they trace Luigi through theserial number and all that other
crap, and funny enough too.
So Now the CEOs that aresnitching and like helping out
with this whole thing orstanding up for the CEO and all
this other stuff are likereceiving so much backlash and
everything like that.
(22:25):
Where, yeah, I had like a littlebit of a tongue twister there
for a second Freudian slip.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
But yeah, they had so much backlash from everything
that happened that the CEO ofPeak Design literally like went
completely offline.
Like you can't you can go totheir YouTube channel, you can
go to their Instagram, you cango to their Twitter and you
cannot comment or do anything onany of their pages because
(22:54):
obviously they snitched.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
So so you know it kind of scares me for the future
of america, though I mean, atthis point it's already going
downhill.
I mean it has been for a whileand we know that.
And it's scary, it's thecrumbling of an empire it is
it's just like scary, becauseall these companies who just
gave out information, probablyby law, what's going to happen
(23:18):
if Peak Backpacks, or whateverthey're called, doesn't give out
the information?
Do they go to jail?
What do you do?
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Well, here's the thing there's been cold cases
for murder cases in the pastthat, okay, let's just pretend
Walmart sold a backpack to thekiller or whatever you know, for
example, or something yeah andif they found out like, oh, the
killer is wearing a backpackfrom walmart, they're not going
to sit there and be like, ifwalmart has any information,
(23:46):
like on the news directly andwhatever like, or you're going
to go to jail or shut down yourcompany or whatever like they're
going to sit there and just sayit's a walmart backpack and
then cool, they're not gonna.
Just they'll do that privately.
There was no reason for thatguy to come out at all and just
announce it after luigi alreadygot captured.
(24:07):
You know what I mean yeahthere's no reason.
Plus, you're just making yourbrand look bad at this point.
That's the.
This is the thing, right?
This is what I compare pastamerica to current america, and
this is where I think we need areset, is how I put it.
Yeah, in the 1700s, we went towar, basically over a tax
(24:29):
increase on tea.
And what did we do?
We retaliated by throwing thetea in the river or ocean or
whatever it was.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
We aren't doing anything, or we haven't done
anything since then for a longtime, but now people are waking
up and realizing that whatamerica is now is wrong.
There's no reason why thereneeds to be like coverage
(25:02):
decline or, you know, declinesor anything like that.
There's no reason why we needto have like war in ukraine, you
know, because of biden andwhoever yeah and there's no
reason why people need to bedissing on trump voters or
anything like that either too,but well, that's.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
I think that's come down a lot in the past year or
so, like it was bad in 2016.
Yeah, because I remember if,even if I saw somebody with a
maga hat, I would be like, man,that's kind of cringy, but now,
yeah, it's almost cool to sayyou voted for trump right and I
mean, that's the thing too ispeople just don't get that.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
And again you get the liberals who they'll just do
their thing and freak out overthe gas prices dropping.
But yeah, everybody else islike cool with it.
But it's like I remember a timewhere my president, for example
, I, wasn't scrambling for moneyor extra hours at work, I was
living comfortably, so that'swhere the whole thing was.
(25:59):
Just everything in america isjust, I feel, like going to crap
and it's just going to getworse unless we do something.
And there's a famous bug's lifequote.
You have you seen bug's liferight?
I've seen bug's life, so there'sthere's a quote that hopper um,
the main antagonist of the film.
He sits there and there's aspeech that he gives to the rest
(26:20):
of the grasshoppers and he saysif you let one ant stand up,
they all stand up.
Here's Luigi, the one ant, andnow everybody else is standing
up because they're done.
We're tired.
I'm sorry, but I'm tired.
I'm not going to go killanybody, but I'm tired.
(26:41):
Stephen, it sounds like you are.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Maybe I'll kill the.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Sarazona teacan.
I'll tell you that much.
But yeah, that's how it is.
People are getting tired,they're waking up and they're
fed up.
Because you can only do so muchby sweet talking too.
You can have like if you'relike an insurance agent.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
And I'm just a normal guy and you tell me my
insurance claim is denied andyeah, I'm upset about it.
But I'm like, okay, you know,at the end of the day, like I
get it, maybe I can see if maybethis hospital will do it.
Wouldn't you get tired of doingthat at some point and actually
try to fight back?
Like, yeah, you can appeal forit, but how often are they going
(27:26):
to listen to the appeal?
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Yeah, I mean, I'm not getting tired, I am tired of it
.
I have to pay 90 bucks perpaycheck and they don't cover
anything right and I have to payover a hundred in mine.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Granted, yeah, the vision works for the most part,
but I haven't had anything to dowith the health care.
But the vision is nice becausethey give me frames every other
year, right and I'm excited tochange them coming up this year,
yeah I'm glad I got minechanged, but yeah, it's
ridiculous and how much you haveto pay out of pocket to
literally just maybe or maybenot have a chance to go into the
(27:59):
hospital and get the help thatyou need.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
You know what I mean yeah, well, I mean you can get
the help, but then it's going tocost thousands of dollars.
I remember when I got a pieceof glass in my toe, and I think
I talked about this in the lastepisode too.
It cost $3,000 for them to takeit out and stitch my toe two
stitches in my toe right andthen, and insurance did not
cover any of it right, and soit's like.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
So then what's the point of having insurance then?
Speaker 1 (28:24):
at that point, the the whole point of insurance is
literally to cover crap yeah, Iwould rather not have it and
then get that extra 90 bucks perpaycheck right.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
And then the other dumb part is the copay.
Like why do I need to pay acopay if insurance is going to
cover for it?
That'll cover everything,including the copay.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
And it's always something dumb like $10 copay,
like why not just cover the 10bucks?
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Right, $10.
I don't care if it's a $10extra out of my paycheck for a
month.
You know what I mean.
The you know what I mean.
The whole point is I'm workingto pay for the insurance to help
me live.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, so again, I should justbe able to go into a hospital
and be like, hey, my tummy hurts, and get that checked out and
(29:06):
walk out, not have to payanything.
But then again just knowingthat, hey, it's okay, I'm
working, my company is payingfor said hospital visit.
You know what I mean?
Yep, even virtual visits too,like I had one recently and
because I got food poisoning andI needed a doctor's note for
work and whatever, and then noteven like two days later, oh,
(29:26):
you have to pay $90 for avirtual visit that lasted five
minutes.
Yeah, it's crazy.
Like five minutes of your timecosted 90.
Are you kidding me?
Five minutes at my time where Iwork should cost me cost the
customer 90 a minute at thatpoint.
If that's how we're gonna playit, you know what I mean.
Yeah, it's ridiculous.
(29:47):
So I don't blame.
I don't blame luigi for why hefelt the way that he felt, but
obviously, again, his actionswere a little bit excessive.
I agree, like with people, thatmurder is wrong.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Now I want to know if there's any information on how
did he know where to find him?
Speaker 2 (30:05):
There's a lot of ways that you can find out, like
it's also a reason to why a lotof people are taking down Well,
here's, here's one thing.
Taking down well, here's here'sone thing.
So before luigi's umassassination that he did um,
you can pretty much go on anyand every website if you look up
like oh, here's the ceo of thiscompany, yeah, like walmart,
(30:28):
mcdonald's, burger king, whoever, and there'll be pictures of
them, and then you can tracethose back to like, because
again you have celebrities thatjust have their.
Here's duane the rock johnson'shouse on google that's the
second time you brought up duane.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
You're a fan I know well.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
I've seen a lot of tiktoks with duane the rock
johnson because they're doingmoana, live action and all that
other stuff.
So they're trying to promote itand get it more notice with
anything duanene the RockJohnson.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
Your algorithm is screwed.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
I know it is.
So, yeah, it's just like.
You can Google anybody and Iguarantee you that's part of
what Luigi did.
I'm sure there was more to itof how he found out.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Yeah, I just want to know how he knew he was in the
hotel.
That's my biggest thing, but Idon't know if they've figured
that out yet, because he had tohave known he was waiting there,
right?
Speaker 2 (31:14):
but I don't know if they've figured that out yet,
cause he had to have known hewas waiting there, right?
Or, as dumb as it may sound, ofhow easy it might've been, is
if, like, he called and goesyeah, I need to, I need to talk
to your, your CEO, or somethinglike that, and then they're like
oh well, he's, he's notavailable, he's at the weekend.
Some dumb employee was likeuntil blah, blah, blah, blah,
blah, so you can talk to himthen and we'll set up an
appointment.
And he goes all right, cool,thanks, I guess we'll do that.
(31:36):
And then he plays it off aswe'll set up an appointment.
And then there he is, he, hestalks the, the hotel for a
little bit and then, bam done,guys on the ground, dead.
So, and a lot of people in newyork, I think too recently, have
uh, they're putting up somebodyor a group of people were
putting up wanted posters ofCEOs for companies all around.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
See, that's what I'm talking about.
That's why I'm scared forAmerica, because we are like
calling for a lot of violenceright now.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
I mean, at this point , in a way, there are some
moments I feel like violence isthe only answer.
But I'm not talking aboutkilling or anything like that
kind of violence, but I think,like in regards to like, there
needs to have somebody take astand for this crap, because
that that's the whole thing islike we can only do so much,
that if we can't sweet talk ourway to victory, we can't just
(32:32):
sit there.
And if we had world war three,we're like you know, putin over
there in russia was like we'regonna nuke you if you don't give
us, uh, thirty thousand dollars.
You know something stupid andwe're just like what can you
give us?
Like a week?
Or you know something like wecan't.
It's like I'll give it to you.
Hold on, let me give you myapple pay card and stuff like
that.
No, like if the thirty thousanddollars didn't us again this is
(32:53):
all a primary example then no,we're going to fight for it at
that point.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
We're going to fight to defend at that point I also
think that if a lot of peopleand there's a lot who claim that
they're Christian, I'mprimarily talking about churches
, especially megachurches, whichwe've already named, those ones
.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
We don't need to keep doing it every time.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
But if they were giving more of their money out
to their communities?
Speaker 2 (33:20):
it would help strengthening your community?
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Yeah, for instance, like the church that I go to
during Thanksgiving would havethese food bags and it's for the
people at the church who needit, yeah, so like I'm not going
to take one cause I don'tnecessarily need it, but if you
were strengthening yourcommunity and we were living how
christians are supposed to,yeah, which I'm.
This is going to sound like I'madvocating for socialism.
I don't think socialism is theanswer, because giving the
(33:46):
government all the money is justa dumb idea that is the dumbest
idea, considering they'realready trillions of dollars in
debt yeah, that's people don'tthink about.
But if people lived incommunities like christians
should I can't necessarily backit up biblically that I can
think of off the top of my headbut say we all lived in like
small little villages orsomething.
(34:07):
We took care of each other.
That's how I think it should beyeah but america.
One of its problems is we'revery individualistic.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Yeah, that's, true so everything is like independent.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
We want to have our, we live in these neighborhoods,
but we don't want to talk to ourneighbors all the time.
We don't really well, maybewe'll be friends with some of
them, but for the most part wekeep to ourselves.
Yeah, but it used to be whereyou'd have like five houses in a
little area.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
And you could just walk up to your neighbor and be
like, hey, what's up, jeff, orwhatever, and everybody was
friendly, had like neighborhoodbarbecues even at that point.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Yeah, and then if somebody was down and out, you
would help them out.
Yeah, and that's what we'recalled to do as Christians.
I don't know how it is in otherareas of the world, but in
America we're all like we'regoing to be Christian and Jesus
is going to make us rich.
That's the point of beingChristian.
It's like, no, that's notreally the point, but that's
(35:05):
what we're teaching, and themajority of, I think, the
churches that make the mostnoise are like the Joel, osteens
and all these churches that say, hey, if you give us your money
, you'll be rich, and then theyjust yeah, they just use it for
extra lights and fog machines.
Yeah, I mean yeah, exactly Likesome of the money I'm sure goes
to some some things good, butyou could use a lot more of it
(35:29):
if you weren't spending it onproduction and making things
look spectacular.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
Right, like you could just sit there too.
And some people are so naivewith the fact of, like you know,
again, they're claiming they'reChristian and stuff, and maybe
they're just so indulged withthe church and how they've been
taught through it and they'rejust like, oh, the church is on
TV.
You know they're reallyspreading the word of God.
At that point, who turns to I'msorry to say it like this, but
who turns to the Christianchannel anymore and watches a
(35:56):
church praise the Lord while thepastor is up with like a
harness on his back flyingthrough the air with spotlights?
You know what I mean.
Yeah, it's like, who justchanges?
I'm bored.
Instead of watching Sundaynight football, I'm just going
to turn it on to this church andwatch them fly through the sky
praising Jesus.
Like, no, nobody's doing thatnumber one.
(36:16):
And again, like, what you'resaying is that, yeah, people do
need to, you know, be more intune with the actual Christian
meaning behind things.
Where it's like, yeah, you wantto be more of like a community
where you're helping each otherout and the church is also
helping you out too with, like,the bags of food.
My dad had to do that for awhile because we didn't have a
really good I wouldn't saychildhood is the word for it,
(36:38):
but we didn't have a really goodmoment in time when we were
children and my dad was tryingto get a better job because it
was after he had cancer and thechurch helped us out that we
went to and they gave us, Ithink, 10-plus bags of groceries
or something like that.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
Which that, to me, is the true meaning of
Christianity, in a way.
Yeah it's definitely part of itDon't get me wrong and I'm
pretty sure there were somepeople there and there always is
that they will take that forgranted and make the claim oh
yeah, I'm a single mom or I'm asingle dad.
Then they're just getting freegroceries for the week.
Speaker 1 (37:20):
Oh yeah, there's always going to be people who
abuse it.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Yeah, and no matter where you the week, oh yeah,
there's always going to bepeople who abuse it.
Yeah, and yeah, no matter whereyou go including insurance too
people will sit there andthey'll abuse the crap out of
their insurance policies.
So if there's an insurancecompany that genuinely will pay
for anything and everything,then again, just like the
600-pound life situation thisguy named Steven was just there
and and like claimed he had likeknee problems or back problems
(37:45):
and so he just kept loading upon narcotics and everything like
that, because painkillers,they're very addictive yes, they
are and so he just kept goingand going and going and getting
a free refill every time throughhis insurance company, and you
know that's how people are.
But yeah, I think, with theviolence today, you know where I
(38:06):
think it's going to lead to isa revolution of some kind, I
think, here pretty soon.
There's no way that again.
Luigi makes a statement, thenthis one girl makes a statement
and now there's more people thatare making statements to other
ceos, right to the Walmart guysin trouble right now.
So he was just talking aboutincreasing the prices even more
(38:30):
than what they are at Walmart.
And they're supposed to be thecheap people right, they're
supposed to be the cheap people,and now Dollar General is
looking a lot better.
You know, and, but you knowthat's.
The thing is that these peopleare sitting here.
It's like there's no reasonagain.
The walmart ceo probably makesmillions of dollars, or he
(38:51):
definitely makes millions ofdollars a year, and so why do
you need to increase your priceson stuff?
Speaker 1 (38:58):
yeah, like and I don't know how many ceos claim
to be Christian but if they are,if they're claiming to be, then
it's like why not take a paycut?
Why not just make $500,000 ayear?
Speaker 2 (39:13):
Speaking of that too, the pay cut.
There is one CEO and I don'tremember the name of the company
, but it's not obviously like a.
I don't think it was a big, bigcompany, but it was big enough
to be known around the stateit's in.
He is the CEO and he was makinglike over a million dollars a
year in salary and everythinglike that too.
(39:34):
And what he did is I don't knowif this was a power move for
what happened with Luigi killingthe CEO for the
UnitedHealthcare- yeah.
But what he ended up doingshortly after I think it was
maybe three days aftereverything happened he was
caught and stuff.
He took a pay cut majorly.
(39:58):
So now he's only down to $seventy thousand dollars a year
to help his employees likesurvive.
So he's paying out of hispaycheck every employee so that
he's again.
This guy was a millionaire andnow is making seventy to eighty
thousand dollars a year.
So I'm like that's a ceo rightthere that at least is using
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their money for good.
In the aspect of things likeobviously, yeah, if you're the
guy that started the company, Ithink you still should
definitely get more thaneverybody else, right?
But you also again it.
What your personality is iswhat defines what you do with
that money at that point yeah.
Yeah.
So if you're just going to buylike four yachts and just be on
(40:44):
your merrily way and there's astruggling guy who's you know
maybe taking, like the wifepassed away, and then he's got
like two kids he's taking careof but his job only pays like
$40,000 a year and he'sstruggling to pay rent and
whatever else is happening, likethat's not cool.
Like you should give theemployees help you.
(41:06):
You obviously started thecompany, but the employees are
what make your company.
So show a little bit ofappreciation.
Maybe not giving them the fullamount, like your whole paycheck
you know what I mean but givethem more at that point they're
helping you grow and then you'llsee less turnover, less, you
know, aggravation from peopleyeah less stress and more work
(41:30):
productivity.
You know, and that's what thatceo did after this whole luigi
movement is like he wasrealizing that, hey, my
employees struggle withinflation right now and I think
I'm well off.
He's probably got enough in hissavings to be fine for a long
time, but again he took a paycut now.
(41:50):
So now he's only again making$70,000 to $80,000 a year.
And his employees are thrivingright now.
They're able to actuallysurvive right now.
They're able to actuallysurvive.
You know, at the place I workat, I'm making maybe thirty
thousand dollars or so a yearand I can't even get an
apartment right now, becauseapartment with inflations are
(42:12):
like I think a startingapartment is like over a
thousand dollars a month.
Speaker 1 (42:17):
Yeah, for a one bedroom.
Even studios are over athousand.
It's, it's insane, yeah it'sinsane.
Speaker 2 (42:21):
And so it's like these ceos.
I think, in a way, again, luigishouldn't have killed somebody.
I'm gonna just keep statingthat, because I'm pretty sure
there might be some people thatare like, oh, he agrees, you
know, no, luigi should not havekilled that ceo.
But I think this, in a way, wasa wake up call for CEOs to
(42:43):
start treating their people andeven other people with more
respect is what it boils down to, because obviously the ones
that are going to retaliatebecause again, they're more
obsessed with money, becausethey can afford bodyguards or
whatever Like they're not goingto care what they do, like the
peak design guy, he literallyjust said screw you guys, I'm
(43:06):
gonna rat luigi out with the bag.
You know, nancy?
You know nancy parker, she sitsthere, should have just put the
fries in the bag, but shecalled 9-1-1 and now she's
jobless, as far as I know.
But obviously she's probably ona witness protection program
kind of thing.
So cause all the publicity andeverything like that from the
(43:27):
McDonald's and her.
So as far as I know too, Ithink that McDonald's is
actually closed down too, so,which is crazy to think about
like that, all that happened.
But yeah, ceos just need torealize that we're taking this
money thing for granted and ourpeople for granted.
You know, yep, and we need todo something about it, to show
(43:49):
our appreciation and stop beingselfish.
Because why do I need fouryachts, why do I need two
lamborghinis?
Why do I need a, like a 10bathroom mansion with a pool in
each bathroom?
You know why do you need that.
Speaker 1 (44:04):
Technically, though, I mean, I agree with that.
But you could also say thatwealth is subjective, because
someone might be looking at youand be like why does he need a
car and a motorcycle?
Yeah that's true, I'm justsaying like I don't think that
many people are angry at you,but it's just like that's I,
it's just like that's.
Speaker 2 (44:24):
I think that's where the the disconnect and the the
trouble is because, yeah, Ipeople can be kind of subjective
it is and it is and it isn't I.
I will say that, like, I'm notdisagreeing with it and I'm not
agreeing with it because itagain is it's all.
It's all what you use the moneyfor.
Like, yeah, I make enough towhere I can afford a bike and I
can afford a car, and yeah, I'mpaying rent at the place I'm
(44:45):
staying at, so it's not like I'mtotally broke.
Yeah, but at the same time,it's where I'm.
I am using my money wisely forthe most part.
When it comes to everything,whether it comes to bills,
whether it comes to, you know,for fun, you know going out to
eat or something like that itjust again, it it just really um
(45:07):
matters on what you do.
But again, the ceo of walmartdoes not need two yachts.
Like, why, why do you need that?
That is the dumbest thing thatyou could.
You could sell one breaks.
Oh, yeah, because, yeah, isthat what they did with?
Yeah, they did that withtitanic too.
They added like three sisterships to it, so it's like we're
not going down that?
(45:27):
no, we're not, I'm just that'sjust the only example I'm using.
Yeah, so yeah, it's like youcould sell one of your yachts
and you could give a payincrease to everybody or give
them a bonus.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, something that would helpthem out.
I'll tell you this much at thelast place I worked at as a
prime example of how these ceoswork.
(45:49):
So our bonus with the positionthat I last was, um, they only
gave me again for running anentire operation, right?
yeah with two years at leaststarting as experience, but I
also had many years of previousjobs with this experience too,
so I qualified.
(46:10):
They only gave $150 per manager.
Yeah, that's kind of a slap inthe face.
So, yeah, that's kind of a slapin the face for hiring, firing,
dealing with closings andopenings by yourselves or
whatever they did or had to do,and again using their gas money
(46:32):
for all this crap and whatever.
They only get 150 as a bonus,like even people that I knew
that had been there for over I'mnot even joking like this one
dude was there for over 30 years30 years.
Well, at that point he's got togo somewhere else right, and
yeah, that was his own ordeal,but for 30 years you're only
(46:55):
getting 150 bonus.
Yeah, are you kidding likethat's?
No, I'm not kidding like that'sridiculous, like that is a'm
not kidding, like that'sridiculous, like that is a slap
in the face.
But yeah, especially for acorporation.
Speaker 1 (47:07):
Right, if it's a small business, okay yeah.
Speaker 2 (47:11):
If it's like a small mom and pop shop or even a
Speedway gas station like,that's fine as $150.
Walmart, for example, or targetor best buy, whatever, like you
definitely can give a lot morefor a bonus or something you
know what I mean because thatthat really is.
(47:32):
It's a slap in the face forwhat I had to do, as my position
was.
It was ridiculous like I satthere and I was like, cool, this
will cover gas for one week,thanks you're welcome,
appreciate it so and but thenthe new ceo could just go out
and buy a yacht because hedidn't really give out a bonus
(47:53):
this year.
Like I'll say this at the placeI'm working at now guess how
much our uh, christmas bonus isgonna be?
How much?
25, and it's taxed too.
Yeah, it's weird that bonusesare taxed right.
So it's like, okay, stuff and gosomewhere else, bro.
Oh, I trust me, I'm gonna belooking for something.
I'm gonna be.
I'm not planning on staying atthis place forever, but all I'm
(48:16):
saying is is, like that's achristmas bonus it25.
And one other place I worked attoo, again thanks to the CEO,
they gave us our bonus in rewardmoney.
So the place that we worked at,we had like reward cash and all
that other stuff.
So if you earned enough pointsthen you could spend it towards
(48:38):
your purchases or whatever, aslong as it was non-alcohol or
dairy or gift cards and stuff.
They gave us 20 bucks in rewardpoints.
So, not even added to our check, $20 in reward points.
That is the dumbest, cheapestthing you can do.
Speaker 1 (48:56):
This episode is ending on a very, very sad note.
Speaker 2 (48:59):
It is unfortunately.
I think in a a way it's awake-up call for ceos start
treating people better, and I'mnot just talking about the
health care organization I'm not, it's just like everywhere
everywhere too.
Yeah, they, they do, becauseobviously actions have
consequences to an extent.
And again, not saying luigishould have killed the CEO
(49:21):
because he should not havekilled the CEO.
He should have just literallydone something about it in a
nonviolent manner like that, towhere it would have gotten the
point across for people to beable to at least stand up and
still do what they're doing now.
Speaker 1 (49:37):
It is wild to think about that World War.
I was started because thearchduke, france ferdinand, was
assassinated, and right ceos.
They're not archdukes, butthey're powerful people.
So it's like it is kind ofscary to think that maybe there
is going to be a revolution.
It is.
Speaker 2 (49:57):
I will say it is nice to see that the right and left
are agreeing on something thatis true even if it's not
entirely moral right, like again, you could be a trump voter or
a biden voter and I've noticedeven too like I'm a trump
supporter.
I'm just gonna say that I knowcrazy, I'm a trump supporter.
I love the guy since he firstran and even while he was a tv
(50:21):
star guy.
You know on what was it.
You're fired or something likethat, the apprentice yeah like,
I was a fan of his there and I'ma fan of his when he was
president and now he's going tobe president again in january,
so I'm excited for the next fouryears.
But some of my liberal friendsthat I talked to you know they
hate the guy, but they alsoagree on this whole thing that,
(50:42):
like, yeah, insurance companiesand ceos are, you know, complete
and utter crap and they need toget their stuff together at
that point and, uh, that's,that's how it is, that they
really do like, and it's nice tosee everybody like what you're
saying coming together at thatpoint and agreeing on something
like yeah, you may be this and Imay be that, but either way,
(51:07):
this is a common ground thatwe're agreeing on.
Speaker 1 (51:10):
So let's put our differences aside I bet they're
gonna find some way to startdisagreeing like all of a sudden
.
The liberals are gonna be likewait a minute, we actually do
like rich people now yeah, wellwe think they should be able to
buy whatever they want gosh?
Speaker 2 (51:25):
I hope not.
But you notice too on the newsoutlets that they don't talk
about how mad the people areabout this whole like thing,
about how corporate america withtheir ceos are big scams and
everything like that.
They're only talking, talkingabout oh well, luigi did this
and he's in prison now andpeople are hoping that he gets
(51:46):
out soon on parole andeverything else like that.
They're not talking about theeffect of people are upset
there's another word for it but,yeah, people are upset with the
fact that, yeah, noweverybody's seeing what CEOs are
truly about Not all, but mostceos.
(52:07):
So again like, the one examplewas that guy that took over a
million dollar pay cut so thathe could give it to his
employees to show appreciationyou know, yep, and again he's
probably still well set offafter that.
Speaker 1 (52:18):
But again, that's, that's dedication right there to
your company and your employeesyeah, I just wonder if he's
doing it out of fear or out of agenuine change of heart it
could be both like.
Speaker 2 (52:27):
It could be like maybe he was that greedy guy
that didn't give a crap about,and then he found out that luigi
assassinated that ceo and hewas like man.
You know, I have been actuallypretty greedy I can see this
going badly right well, that too.
And then he's like yeah, Iprobably wrongfully like fired
people just because you know,whatever too you know, and so
(52:49):
maybe this is a way even thoughI may not be able to ever repay
back those people I let go orwhatever that maybe I can start
a change today, you know I think, ceos and people of corporate
america need to start doing that.
More car dealerships need toquit charging $100,000 for a
$30,000 Jeep.
You know.
Speaker 1 (53:08):
Yep Well.
Speaker 2 (53:11):
I think we covered it .
Speaker 1 (53:11):
We're just going to go in circles now at this point.
I think that about covers it.
And for my non-Americanlisteners, if you do have
universal health care, what isit like?
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Otherwise, have a blessed week.
Bye, I love you.
Bye.
Stephan, what's your opinion on the CEO assassination
?
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Yeah, so that's been a thing for a second now.
And it's getting, I think, moreprogressively worse in that
aspect for CEOs, because a lotof CEOs are either going into
hiding or they're literallycaving into whatever people are
wanting, or just showing thatthey're not going to be like
(00:28):
healthcare CEOs that don'treally give a crap about if
you're sick or not.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Yeah, but do you think that he should have killed
him?
Here's my opinion on it.
Oh, you're starting with the.
Here's my opinion.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
That's how you always got to start it out, you got to
get some going.
You're starting with the here'smy answer.
That's how you always got tostart it out.
Yeah, get some going.
So my thing is yes, I think itwas wrong to kill him, but I
will say that somethingdefinitely should have been done
about it.
In regards to so this guy knowswillingly or the CEO that once
existed once knew that he'sdenying hundreds of thousands of
(01:07):
claims a year.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Yeah well, they make money off that.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Yeah, they do make money off death.
That's the thing, and theydon't really show any remorse.
I'm not expecting them to belike woe is me and help every
case.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Well, it's more so.
They get money off of denying,not necessarily like the person
dying Right, maybe they do, Idon't know actually.
But I also know thatUnitedHealthcare had like a 39%
denial rate, which is awfulRight.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
And they also, too, had a thing where I think the
numbers were they made one year$6.
Something million off claimsand stuff that got denied and
they somehow made a 13 milliondollar profit the next year.
Yeah, so it's like, okay, howdoes it go from one year you
(01:55):
have half of that and then thenext year you're doubling?
You know what I mean?
Yeah, like that seems a littleoff to me, especially when
you're denying all these claims,like yeah, certain people can't
afford certain coverages.
But at the same time, it's likewhy are you jacking up the
price of coverages?
Like sometimes, what thesehealth care professionals will
do anyway is if you have anupset stomach and they don't
(02:17):
feel like checking you out,they'll just slap a band-aid on
it, call it good and kick youout the door.
That's what they do yeah andthey deny your claim, even
though you could probably haveyou know, hopefully not happen,
but like a tumor or somethinglike that happening in your
stomach or wherever and youdon't know what it is.
But because they're just like,oh, it's just a stomach pain,
(02:38):
whatever, they'll just kick youout, call it good.
I'm not saying every place doesthat, but I'm pretty sure with
right now again for unitedhealth care, where you show the
six million dollar to 13 milliondollar ratio, it's a little
excessive yeah, I just thinkinsurance, especially health
care insurance, is just dirtywell, yeah, gross.
(03:01):
Well, yeah, because even with myglasses, for example, that I
wear, right like, you know howbad my eyesight is.
Yeah, it's awful, these looklike bifocals, so they're thick
lenses, but you know it's like,yeah, insurance covers most of
it, but if I'm paying a certaindollar amount out of my paycheck
, which you are right, which Iam, and I'm also paying that
(03:24):
towards health, where, ifanything happens at the hospital
where I need to go, then I havemy insurance that covers it.
How is it that you're notproviding technically full
coverage at that point?
If I have full coverage, likethat would just essentially be
coming out of my paycheck.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, so for people to havethis assumption that like, oh,
(03:46):
yeah, no, yeah, no, they'recovering stuff for like how
Luigi's mom was, like she hadlike severe nerve damage.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
And Luigi being the assassin.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
His mom had like some kind ofnerve damage thing or something
where she was like screaming inthe middle of the night and day
because of how bad the pain was,yeah and um.
Then that's when he tried toget, you know, the insurance to
cover for the surgery orsomething.
I guess they said somethinglike there was a surgery that
(04:18):
was available for her to takeaway that pain, um, and they
ended up denying that and that'swhat caused that whole thing,
because she ended up, I think,dying is what I remember seeing,
and that's when theassassination happened with the
CEO, and how I look at it too.
Is these guys at even like justhealth insurance, for example,
(04:42):
like how is it it that they?
Is it just because they'reexcept they're getting it
legally, like documented, andgetting legal currency that they
are able to kill, essentially,millions of people?
Speaker 1 (04:57):
and yeah, because they're technically they're
killing people indirectly, right?
Speaker 2 (05:01):
so I mean they're killing but because it's written
documentation and whatever,it's okay.
But Luigi, either way it'sstill wrong.
But Luigi then kills the CEOand he's in jail right now.
So this CEO guy denying claims,obviously not him well, he's
(05:23):
not going to be denying themright, not anymore.
But yeah, it's like his familyliterally like is sitting here
and they're like what was me?
Yeah, it's a sad time, but like, how do you not know or care
enough that your husband isdenying people and not helping
them?
Because that's the whole thingabout doctors is that they're
there to help you.
A homeless guy can be on thestreet with no id or anything
(05:46):
and go into the er and legallythe hospital has to help them
out and there's no way for ahomeless guy to obviously pay so
they can just walk awayscot-free.
If they have like an, a legthat is being eaten up by
bacteria because of you know,they're homeless and they got
all that disease and stuff, theyhave to amputate it, stitch it
(06:08):
up, they have a stump, give themwheelchair or crutches or a
prosthetic and then the guywalks away free well, it comes
out of taxpayer, well yeahtaxpayer money, which still
sucks because it's like, cool,you're not trying to get
yourself a job, even though,yeah, you're homeless and it's
you know whatever.
Not a whole lot of people aretrusting today too, with that
crap yeah, well, it also dependson why they're homeless.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Yeah, do they have a really bad mental issue?
Speaker 2 (06:33):
or is it just like some bad stuff happened in their
life, like they got evicted ora divorce or something like that
?
You know, I can understand that.
The one sad thing is the vetsyeah the vets like how there's
not enough shelters for them atthat point.
I'm a big military supporter,so yeah, the whole health care
system is like screwed up withthat whole thing with insurance
(06:55):
claims and everything yeah, Iwould say that obviously jesus
wouldn't want somebody killing arich person or the CEO, like we
both agree with that.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
but it does say something about the American
healthcare system and I don'tknow if universal healthcare
would be good or bad.
You know there's so muchpropaganda about how bad it is
that we hear like, oh, we had towait so long in line, people in
Canada, right.
So I don't know if that'spropaganda or if it really would
(07:26):
be bad for universal healthcare.
So I'm not like advocating foruniversal health care, but I
also.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
something has to change I feel like it's a
mixture of both on that one, butyeah, there does need something
to change like obviously, insome aspects, there are people
that do actually need the healthcare that anyone provides, but
then there's people that abuseit, like there's a show called
my 600 pound life, for example.
(07:52):
Those people just they chose toget fat.
Yeah, that fat like that's onyou, then at that point that's
like if you're trying toactually get better and you want
to lose the weight or getsurgery for whatever, then cool,
then provide it.
But if you're just fat, becauseyou're fat and you don't want
to do anything and you're justslouching in bed hoping to get
(08:14):
painkillers and stuff, becauseyou're a drug addict like
there's one guy named steve thatwas on the show like no, I'm
sorry, like you trash on thestreet.
There has to be nuance whereit's like stuff like that we
should not cover because theychose that life yeah to become
bigger than ever exactly samething with drug addicts too, in
(08:35):
a way like you get like methheads on the street and
everything like that.
I'm sorry you chose that lifeand you're clearly not wanting
to get better, even though it'slike, yeah, it's a very
addictive drug, but you knewtaking that it was addictive
yeah so that's on you if youhave any kind of health issues
later on down the road.
Like there have been people thatI've known that have been like
(08:57):
x meth heads and it was a girlthat I used to work with I'm not
obviously going to name thework facility that I used to
work for Right, but she used tobe a meth head.
She had a meth lab andeverything else and she went to
jail for it and then she gotreleased and, yeah, she chose to
clean up her life, though,because she realized it was
screwing her up.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
So if you have that realization, then good for you,
but otherwise, yeah, I don'tthink health care should provide
anything for anybody at thatpoint.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
If they are just like , nope, I'm gonna just go right
back to smoking meth or whateverthey do.
Yeah, because rehab could costa lot.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Yeah, someone to get off exactly drugs and well and
even same thing with alcohol too.
At that point you know, there'salcohol abuse.
There was a guy on a tv showthat had, I think he he was
getting drunk 26 years of hislife and then, as soon as he
went to rehab to get rid of thatcrap, his bloodstream was so
used to the alcohol that he diedas soon as, like I think it was
like a month later or somethinglike that, after he went and
(09:57):
yeah, I know, like with heroinand stuff, they actually have to
wean people off it slowlybecause that's so used to it.
You you could die from it.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Yeah, from not getting it, which is crazy to
think about.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Oh yeah, well, and then to also, um, just to kind
of uh, another uh insurancecompany I think it was blue
cross, blue shield Um, wherewere the people in this case?
But there's a girl namedMiranda, or something along the
lines of that, that justrecently got uh arrested and
she's in jail right now.
(10:28):
Um, she I think it's madison,that's kind of more ringing a
bell mass and she, so she justuh was trying to get something
either for her or her daughter,because they were sick yeah and
what happened was she called theinsurance company and they
denied her claim for whateverwas happening.
And then she used the threefamous lines like deny defend,
(10:52):
depose yeah depose, yeah, andshe said you're next, which,
yeah, like, obviously comes offas a threat.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
But she didn't have anything planned or nothing else
.
But she didn't have anythingplanned or nothing else.
But that's again.
(11:34):
What's happening in this worldcurrently is that you have now
ever since this tired of howwe've been abused for years,
because everybody else canafford all this wonderful health
care stuff.
Like there's people that theyprobably again have a cure for
cancer and they're not going toshare it with anybody.
That's of the lower class.
But they'll show it with Dwaynethe Rock Johnson.
They'll show it with, like youknow, johnson.
They'll show it with, like youknow, rosie o'donnell if they
want to because they got money.
Yeah, and that's what it boilsdown to, and that's where it
says too in the bible that it'slike money is the root of all
evil.
And so here's a prime examplethese ceos, health cares, every
(11:58):
bit of insurance, is all powerhungry with money.
Because even if I have fullcoverage on my accord, for
example for my car insurance, itmay say full coverage, but is
it really?
Speaker 1 (12:13):
full coverage well, I think insurance in general is a
scam yeah, because I have Ithink I have comprehensive but
say I did have plpd insurance onmy car which is zero coverage
coverage.
What am I paying for?
Because if I get in an accidentthey're not covering my car,
they're not covering the otherperson's car, right, and it's
just a way for the government toget more money.
(12:34):
Like, hey, you need to pay thismoney so you can have your car
on the road.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Right, and it's like okay, so it's not like we're
already.
Like, if you've seen the cardealership and the car stock
market in general, like trucksare over a hundred thousand
dollars, like that's not enoughmoney right there, yeah, and
then you have to also pay forthe registration right the
registration or any state parkpasses, anything like that.
(12:58):
You know it's just.
It's ridiculous like you can'teven do anything without paying
for it nowadays like heck, evendrawing like there's, you have
to buy the pencil and paper,which is whatever.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
But I mean, I'm just saying, you know yeah, it's just
something that more and morestuff that you have to pay for
for virtually everything.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Right, or even same thing with like I don't know,
like guns and stuff like that.
I, I own one and it's like youhave to pay for registration for
it and all this other stuff,which is fine, but at the same
time, too, it's not fine,because it's like, okay, you're
already paying for the gun andyou have to turn in the
paperwork to the policedepartment so they can have that
(13:41):
, but there's also a processingfee for it, so they can have
that but there's also aprocessing fee for it.
So it's like why do I need topay for the gun when I'm
literally giving it to thepolice officer at the station to
show that I have a gun in theevent that there is any crime or
anything like that happening?
Like they can pinpoint?
Forensics have gotten reallygood at this point where, like
(14:02):
how they found the bulletcasings and everything like that
, and another story aboutforensics and how good they've
gotten to with this whole ceothing um, yeah, I want to go
back into, yeah, that part ofthe story.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
No, it's all kind of like dying in yeah, but yeah,
like they can trace backanything that happens.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
So if something happens to another ceo and they
happen to use something similarto mine or whatever, then they
can track that and be like, okay, well, the shell casing came
from this thing.
These are the only guns that cantake it.
So and then, speaking of howforensics and everything else
with, like, finding people hasgotten better, so this guy off a
(14:38):
website where they sellbackpacks and other luggage
things, a website where theysell backpacks and other luggage
things, they actually were ableto trace the backpack that
Luigi used in the assassinationfrom this guy.
It's like Peak something is thecompany, yeah, and they traced
him through the serial number onthe bag from the receipt to
(14:59):
pinpoint where this guy was,along with you, finding him at
mcdonald's, which that girl,nancy parker, little snitch, was
sitting there and she shouldhave just put the fries in the
bag at that point.
I'm sorry, but this guy istrying to prove a point that the
american, you know, health careinsurance companies are scams
(15:21):
yeah, but he did kill somebodyhe did, which I still will agree
is wrong and he shouldn't havedone it, but something should
have.
And I'm putting that literally,you seem torn which I think a
lot of people are.
It's torn, but it's more ofwhat's right and what's wrong at
that point, yeah, was it rightfor the, the health, these
health care insurances, to dowhat they're doing right now
(15:43):
with denying people?
Speaker 1 (15:44):
no, no it's not it's indirect murder too, so it's
like well in yeah, indirectmurder, and then it's also too.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Did luigi do the right thing by killing the ceo
to prove a statement no but yesat the same time, and he made a
statement in the wrong way yeah,that's what I would say.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
The statement, the statement is good, but he went
about it the wrong way exactly.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
So that's a good way of putting it yeah, and I, and
again with me, I agree that thatwas wrong what he did.
And yeah, maybe some jail time,obviously some.
Well, you know what I?
Speaker 1 (16:18):
mean he's going to jail for a while.
He ain't gonna.
You know, it's not gonna belike a life sentence if you kill
somebody who's rich andimportant you don't know is it
life, or do you know how long hegot I?
Speaker 2 (16:33):
don't know if it's life, but I know they're not
doing anything like a deathsentence as far as I know yet.
It's still kind of early todetermine.
Yeah, what if that would be?
Speaker 1 (16:43):
crazy.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Yeah, and you do bring up a good point where it's
like, if you kill someone rich,but yet the rich like, for
example, everybody knows thisnow the story of alec baldwin,
where he had the prop gun and heshot one of the cast members
that were part of the movie andthe blank bullet ended up not
being a blank bullet and endedup being real yeah and it's like
he can get away with it andplead not guilty and he just has
(17:05):
to pay a uh, a fine.
You know what I mean and he can,and but again, it's alec
boldwin versus this luigi guythat nobody knows at that point
yeah, so money really is allpower at that point I mean
there's clear we I mean we justtalked about this in the last
episode.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
I don't know if you had a chance to listen to that
one, but it was like pretty muchall about money and how
basically Jesus, and even in thewords of James and the in a lot
of the Bible they do talk abouthow being rich for the most
part just isn't a good thing.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Right, yeah, it's not like It'll consume you at that
point.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
It pretty much consumes everyone.
Jesus basically says it isimpossible to get into heaven if
you're rich.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Right, and don't get me wrong, a lot of extra money
would help, I'm sure, foreverybody.
Well, yeah, but it also dependson what you do with that money
too, because obviously there'speople that could use it for
good, like donations, charity,whatever, and then you get the
people that would use it for bad, like Diddy or Hugh Hefner.
(18:14):
They'll just use it for you.
I'm just saying, like HughHefner, bringing up two perverts
.
Yeah, two perverts, literallyOne with baby oil and one with
bunnies.
So that's the thing is, it allcomes to money and power at that
point, and when the ceo here's.
The other thing too is thatthis guy, I think, had a 1.5
million dollar salary or morefor and, and then it showed like
(18:37):
um, I think he made like 19.8billion in claims, or something
like that, for the company, forthe company, yeah.
So it's like, okay, this guyclearly is well set for the rest
of his life, but yet he can gohome and sleep soundly, knowing
that he indirectly killedthousands of people in one day.
Pretty much I would say yeah,because it's, it's united.
(19:00):
Health care is not just in onegeneral section, you know of the
united states.
It's everywhere, yeah so, yeah,every day there's thousands of
people that die, not just in theunited states, but around the
world too now back to the nancyparker.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Was she working at mcdonald's?
Speaker 2 (19:17):
yeah, she was working at mcdonald's during that shift
and what ended up happening wasis I guess she saw somebody
that looked suspicious, like theyou know, the assassin that
killed the ceo yeah and so she,this dumb girl, called the 911
line instead of the hotline toget the sixty thousand dollar
(19:37):
reward for turning in luigi, andshe obviously didn't get the
money and she's not going to getthe money.
But she received so muchbacklash and she was receiving
threats and everything like thatthat McDonald's had to let her
go.
And here's the dumb reason whyMcDonald's let her go.
It wasn't just the publicityand everything like that, it was
(19:59):
because she contacted the copsand was outside talking to them
during her shift.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
So she technically wasn't working, so she
technically wasn't working.
She technically wasn't workingthat's funny yeah, so first of
all, mcdonald's is stupid well,getting fired from mcdonald's
has to be one of the best thingsto happen to someone yeah, but
it's also mcdonald's looking atit.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
They I mean mcdonald's is already crooks, if
you know the backstory to that.
The guy stole the business fromtwo brothers that started the
business and now it's this giantchain of fast food.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
The most big corporations, I would say and I
say most, because there are somegood ones are rooted in evil
and power and money.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Exactly, and so you know obviously everybody goes to
McDonald's.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
I would also like to say I would not have recognized
Luigi if I saw him anywhere.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
I wouldn't have either.
But it also doesn't even looklike the guy If you look at the
CCTV camera.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
With the famous smile thing.
Yeah, yeah, I would have neverfound that guy.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
No, absolutely not.
And the other funny part is toois I don't know if you noticed
this too.
And the other funny part is,too is I don't know if you
noticed this too.
So the Altoona McDonald's inPennsylvania that they found
this guy in received one starratings and was saying, like you
guys have a rat infestation.
And there was I'm not evenjoking on this, just for comedy
(21:18):
relief but there was one personthat said, yeah, I saw an
employee take a dump on thefloor and everybody just watched
and did not do anything toclean it up.
This is the most disgustingestablishment ever.
Not even joking, it was anactual review.
Yeah, I was like what the heck?
So the altuna mcdonald'sliterally took down reviews and
(21:41):
like where I think they'relocated and all this other stuff
too.
So you can't even like look upthat.
You can look it up and whatever, but you can't like get
directions to it or anythinglike that anymore, even though
people know where it's at.
But there's a lot of people inretaliation to mcdonald's now
there's a lot of people inretaliation to that peak design
I think that's what it's calledis peak Design, the bag where
(22:03):
they trace Luigi through theserial number and all that other
crap, and funny enough too.
So Now the CEOs that aresnitching and like helping out
with this whole thing orstanding up for the CEO and all
this other stuff are likereceiving so much backlash and
everything like that.
(22:25):
Where, yeah, I had like a littlebit of a tongue twister there
for a second Freudian slip.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
But yeah, they had so much backlash from everything
that happened that the CEO ofPeak Design literally like went
completely offline.
Like you can't you can go totheir YouTube channel, you can
go to their Instagram, you cango to their Twitter and you
cannot comment or do anything onany of their pages because
(22:54):
obviously they snitched.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
So so you know it kind of scares me for the future
of america, though I mean, atthis point it's already going
downhill.
I mean it has been for a whileand we know that.
And it's scary, it's thecrumbling of an empire it is
it's just like scary, becauseall these companies who just
gave out information, probablyby law, what's going to happen
(23:18):
if Peak Backpacks, or whateverthey're called, doesn't give out
the information?
Do they go to jail?
What do you do?
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Well, here's the thing there's been cold cases
for murder cases in the pastthat, okay, let's just pretend
Walmart sold a backpack to thekiller or whatever you know, for
example, or something yeah andif they found out like, oh, the
killer is wearing a backpackfrom walmart, they're not going
to sit there and be like, ifwalmart has any information,
(23:46):
like on the news directly andwhatever like, or you're going
to go to jail or shut down yourcompany or whatever like they're
going to sit there and just sayit's a walmart backpack and
then cool, they're not gonna.
Just they'll do that privately.
There was no reason for thatguy to come out at all and just
announce it after luigi alreadygot captured.
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You know what I mean yeahthere's no reason.
Plus, you're just making yourbrand look bad at this point.
That's the.
This is the thing, right?
This is what I compare pastamerica to current america, and
this is where I think we need areset, is how I put it.
Yeah, in the 1700s, we went towar, basically over a tax
(24:29):
increase on tea.
And what did we do?
We retaliated by throwing thetea in the river or ocean or
whatever it was.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
We aren't doing anything, or we haven't done
anything since then for a longtime, but now people are waking
up and realizing that whatamerica is now is wrong.
There's no reason why thereneeds to be like coverage
(25:02):
decline or, you know, declinesor anything like that.
There's no reason why we needto have like war in ukraine, you
know, because of biden andwhoever yeah and there's no
reason why people need to bedissing on trump voters or
anything like that either too,but well, that's.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
I think that's come down a lot in the past year or
so, like it was bad in 2016.
Yeah, because I remember if,even if I saw somebody with a
maga hat, I would be like, man,that's kind of cringy, but now,
yeah, it's almost cool to sayyou voted for trump right and I
mean, that's the thing too ispeople just don't get that.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
And again you get the liberals who they'll just do
their thing and freak out overthe gas prices dropping.
But yeah, everybody else islike cool with it.
But it's like I remember a timewhere my president, for example
, I, wasn't scrambling for moneyor extra hours at work, I was
living comfortably, so that'swhere the whole thing was.
(25:59):
Just everything in america isjust, I feel, like going to crap
and it's just going to getworse unless we do something.
And there's a famous bug's lifequote.
You have you seen bug's liferight?
I've seen bug's life, so there'sthere's a quote that hopper um,
the main antagonist of the film.
He sits there and there's aspeech that he gives to the rest
(26:20):
of the grasshoppers and he saysif you let one ant stand up,
they all stand up.
Here's Luigi, the one ant, andnow everybody else is standing
up because they're done.
We're tired.
I'm sorry, but I'm tired.
I'm not going to go killanybody, but I'm tired.
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Stephen, it sounds like you are.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Maybe I'll kill the.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Sarazona teacan.
I'll tell you that much.
But yeah, that's how it is.
People are getting tired,they're waking up and they're
fed up.
Because you can only do so muchby sweet talking too.
You can have like if you'relike an insurance agent.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
And I'm just a normal guy and you tell me my
insurance claim is denied andyeah, I'm upset about it.
But I'm like, okay, you know,at the end of the day, like I
get it, maybe I can see if maybethis hospital will do it.
Wouldn't you get tired of doingthat at some point and actually
try to fight back?
Like, yeah, you can appeal forit, but how often are they going
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to listen to the appeal?
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Yeah, I mean, I'm not getting tired, I am tired of it
.
I have to pay 90 bucks perpaycheck and they don't cover
anything right and I have to payover a hundred in mine.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Granted, yeah, the vision works for the most part,
but I haven't had anything to dowith the health care.
But the vision is nice becausethey give me frames every other
year, right and I'm excited tochange them coming up this year,
yeah I'm glad I got minechanged, but yeah, it's
ridiculous and how much you haveto pay out of pocket to
literally just maybe or maybenot have a chance to go into the
(27:59):
hospital and get the help thatyou need.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
You know what I mean yeah, well, I mean you can get
the help, but then it's going tocost thousands of dollars.
I remember when I got a pieceof glass in my toe, and I think
I talked about this in the lastepisode too.
It cost $3,000 for them to takeit out and stitch my toe two
stitches in my toe right andthen, and insurance did not
cover any of it right, and soit's like.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
So then what's the point of having insurance then?
Speaker 1 (28:24):
at that point, the the whole point of insurance is
literally to cover crap yeah, Iwould rather not have it and
then get that extra 90 bucks perpaycheck right.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
And then the other dumb part is the copay.
Like why do I need to pay acopay if insurance is going to
cover for it?
That'll cover everything,including the copay.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
And it's always something dumb like $10 copay,
like why not just cover the 10bucks?
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Right, $10.
I don't care if it's a $10extra out of my paycheck for a
month.
You know what I mean.
The you know what I mean.
The whole point is I'm workingto pay for the insurance to help
me live.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, so again, I should justbe able to go into a hospital
and be like, hey, my tummy hurts, and get that checked out and
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walk out, not have to payanything.
But then again just knowingthat, hey, it's okay, I'm
working, my company is payingfor said hospital visit.
You know what I mean?
Yep, even virtual visits too,like I had one recently and
because I got food poisoning andI needed a doctor's note for
work and whatever, and then noteven like two days later, oh,
(29:26):
you have to pay $90 for avirtual visit that lasted five
minutes.
Yeah, it's crazy.
Like five minutes of your timecosted 90.
Are you kidding me?
Five minutes at my time where Iwork should cost me cost the
customer 90 a minute at thatpoint.
If that's how we're gonna playit, you know what I mean.
Yeah, it's ridiculous.
(29:47):
So I don't blame.
I don't blame luigi for why hefelt the way that he felt, but
obviously, again, his actionswere a little bit excessive.
I agree, like with people, thatmurder is wrong.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Now I want to know if there's any information on how
did he know where to find him?
Speaker 2 (30:05):
There's a lot of ways that you can find out, like
it's also a reason to why a lotof people are taking down Well,
here's, here's one thing.
Taking down well, here's here'sone thing.
So before luigi's umassassination that he did um,
you can pretty much go on anyand every website if you look up
like oh, here's the ceo of thiscompany, yeah, like walmart,
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mcdonald's, burger king, whoever, and there'll be pictures of
them, and then you can tracethose back to like, because
again you have celebrities thatjust have their.
Here's duane the rock johnson'shouse on google that's the
second time you brought up duane.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
You're a fan I know well.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
I've seen a lot of tiktoks with duane the rock
johnson because they're doingmoana, live action and all that
other stuff.
So they're trying to promote itand get it more notice with
anything duanene the RockJohnson.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
Your algorithm is screwed.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
I know it is.
So, yeah, it's just like.
You can Google anybody and Iguarantee you that's part of
what Luigi did.
I'm sure there was more to itof how he found out.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Yeah, I just want to know how he knew he was in the
hotel.
That's my biggest thing, but Idon't know if they've figured
that out yet, because he had tohave known he was waiting there,
right?
Speaker 2 (31:14):
but I don't know if they've figured that out yet,
cause he had to have known hewas waiting there, right?
Or, as dumb as it may sound, ofhow easy it might've been, is
if, like, he called and goesyeah, I need to, I need to talk
to your, your CEO, or somethinglike that, and then they're like
oh well, he's, he's notavailable, he's at the weekend.
Some dumb employee was likeuntil blah, blah, blah, blah,
blah, so you can talk to himthen and we'll set up an
appointment.
And he goes all right, cool,thanks, I guess we'll do that.
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And then he plays it off aswe'll set up an appointment.
And then there he is, he, hestalks the, the hotel for a
little bit and then, bam done,guys on the ground, dead.
So, and a lot of people in newyork, I think too recently, have
uh, they're putting up somebodyor a group of people were
putting up wanted posters ofCEOs for companies all around.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
See, that's what I'm talking about.
That's why I'm scared forAmerica, because we are like
calling for a lot of violenceright now.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
I mean, at this point , in a way, there are some
moments I feel like violence isthe only answer.
But I'm not talking aboutkilling or anything like that
kind of violence, but I think,like in regards to like, there
needs to have somebody take astand for this crap, because
that that's the whole thing islike we can only do so much,
that if we can't sweet talk ourway to victory, we can't just
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sit there.
And if we had world war three,we're like you know, putin over
there in russia was like we'regonna nuke you if you don't give
us, uh, thirty thousand dollars.
You know something stupid andwe're just like what can you
give us?
Like a week?
Or you know something like wecan't.
It's like I'll give it to you.
Hold on, let me give you myapple pay card and stuff like
that.
No, like if the thirty thousanddollars didn't us again this is
(32:53):
all a primary example then no,we're going to fight for it at
that point.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
We're going to fight to defend at that point I also
think that if a lot of peopleand there's a lot who claim that
they're Christian, I'mprimarily talking about churches
, especially megachurches, whichwe've already named, those ones
.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
We don't need to keep doing it every time.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
But if they were giving more of their money out
to their communities?
Speaker 2 (33:20):
it would help strengthening your community?
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Yeah, for instance, like the church that I go to
during Thanksgiving would havethese food bags and it's for the
people at the church who needit, yeah, so like I'm not going
to take one cause I don'tnecessarily need it, but if you
were strengthening yourcommunity and we were living how
christians are supposed to,yeah, which I'm.
This is going to sound like I'madvocating for socialism.
I don't think socialism is theanswer, because giving the
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government all the money is justa dumb idea that is the dumbest
idea, considering they'realready trillions of dollars in
debt yeah, that's people don'tthink about.
But if people lived incommunities like christians
should I can't necessarily backit up biblically that I can
think of off the top of my headbut say we all lived in like
small little villages orsomething.
(34:07):
We took care of each other.
That's how I think it should beyeah but america.
One of its problems is we'revery individualistic.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Yeah, that's, true so everything is like independent.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
We want to have our, we live in these neighborhoods,
but we don't want to talk to ourneighbors all the time.
We don't really well, maybewe'll be friends with some of
them, but for the most part wekeep to ourselves.
Yeah, but it used to be whereyou'd have like five houses in a
little area.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
And you could just walk up to your neighbor and be
like, hey, what's up, jeff, orwhatever, and everybody was
friendly, had like neighborhoodbarbecues even at that point.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Yeah, and then if somebody was down and out, you
would help them out.
Yeah, and that's what we'recalled to do as Christians.
I don't know how it is in otherareas of the world, but in
America we're all like we'regoing to be Christian and Jesus
is going to make us rich.
That's the point of beingChristian.
It's like, no, that's notreally the point, but that's
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what we're teaching, and themajority of, I think, the
churches that make the mostnoise are like the Joel, osteens
and all these churches that say, hey, if you give us your money
, you'll be rich, and then theyjust yeah, they just use it for
extra lights and fog machines.
Yeah, I mean yeah, exactly Likesome of the money I'm sure goes
to some some things good, butyou could use a lot more of it
(35:29):
if you weren't spending it onproduction and making things
look spectacular.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
Right, like you could just sit there too.
And some people are so naivewith the fact of, like you know,
again, they're claiming they'reChristian and stuff, and maybe
they're just so indulged withthe church and how they've been
taught through it and they'rejust like, oh, the church is on
TV.
You know they're reallyspreading the word of God.
At that point, who turns to I'msorry to say it like this, but
who turns to the Christianchannel anymore and watches a
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church praise the Lord while thepastor is up with like a
harness on his back flyingthrough the air with spotlights?
You know what I mean.
Yeah, it's like, who justchanges?
I'm bored.
Instead of watching Sundaynight football, I'm just going
to turn it on to this church andwatch them fly through the sky
praising Jesus.
Like, no, nobody's doing thatnumber one.
(36:16):
And again, like, what you'resaying is that, yeah, people do
need to, you know, be more intune with the actual Christian
meaning behind things.
Where it's like, yeah, you wantto be more of like a community
where you're helping each otherout and the church is also
helping you out too with, like,the bags of food.
My dad had to do that for awhile because we didn't have a
really good I wouldn't saychildhood is the word for it,
(36:38):
but we didn't have a really goodmoment in time when we were
children and my dad was tryingto get a better job because it
was after he had cancer and thechurch helped us out that we
went to and they gave us, Ithink, 10-plus bags of groceries
or something like that.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
Which that, to me, is the true meaning of
Christianity, in a way.
Yeah it's definitely part of itDon't get me wrong and I'm
pretty sure there were somepeople there and there always is
that they will take that forgranted and make the claim oh
yeah, I'm a single mom or I'm asingle dad.
Then they're just getting freegroceries for the week.
Speaker 1 (37:20):
Oh yeah, there's always going to be people who
abuse it.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Yeah, and no matter where you the week, oh yeah,
there's always going to bepeople who abuse it.
Yeah, and yeah, no matter whereyou go including insurance too
people will sit there andthey'll abuse the crap out of
their insurance policies.
So if there's an insurancecompany that genuinely will pay
for anything and everything,then again, just like the
600-pound life situation thisguy named Steven was just there
and and like claimed he had likeknee problems or back problems
(37:45):
and so he just kept loading upon narcotics and everything like
that, because painkillers,they're very addictive yes, they
are and so he just kept goingand going and going and getting
a free refill every time throughhis insurance company, and you
know that's how people are.
But yeah, I think, with theviolence today, you know where I
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think it's going to lead to isa revolution of some kind, I
think, here pretty soon.
There's no way that again.
Luigi makes a statement, thenthis one girl makes a statement
and now there's more people thatare making statements to other
ceos, right to the Walmart guysin trouble right now.
So he was just talking aboutincreasing the prices even more
(38:30):
than what they are at Walmart.
And they're supposed to be thecheap people right, they're
supposed to be the cheap people,and now Dollar General is
looking a lot better.
You know, and, but you knowthat's.
The thing is that these peopleare sitting here.
It's like there's no reasonagain.
The walmart ceo probably makesmillions of dollars, or he
(38:51):
definitely makes millions ofdollars a year, and so why do
you need to increase your priceson stuff?
Speaker 1 (38:58):
yeah, like and I don't know how many ceos claim
to be Christian but if they are,if they're claiming to be, then
it's like why not take a paycut?
Why not just make $500,000 ayear?
Speaker 2 (39:13):
Speaking of that too, the pay cut.
There is one CEO and I don'tremember the name of the company
, but it's not obviously like a.
I don't think it was a big, bigcompany, but it was big enough
to be known around the stateit's in.
He is the CEO and he was makinglike over a million dollars a
year in salary and everythinglike that too.
(39:34):
And what he did is I don't knowif this was a power move for
what happened with Luigi killingthe CEO for the
UnitedHealthcare- yeah.
But what he ended up doingshortly after I think it was
maybe three days aftereverything happened he was
caught and stuff.
He took a pay cut majorly.
(39:58):
So now he's only down to $seventy thousand dollars a year
to help his employees likesurvive.
So he's paying out of hispaycheck every employee so that
he's again.
This guy was a millionaire andnow is making seventy to eighty
thousand dollars a year.
So I'm like that's a ceo rightthere that at least is using
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their money for good.
In the aspect of things likeobviously, yeah, if you're the
guy that started the company, Ithink you still should
definitely get more thaneverybody else, right?
But you also again it.
What your personality is iswhat defines what you do with
that money at that point yeah.
Yeah.
So if you're just going to buylike four yachts and just be on
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your merrily way and there's astruggling guy who's you know
maybe taking, like the wifepassed away, and then he's got
like two kids he's taking careof but his job only pays like
$40,000 a year and he'sstruggling to pay rent and
whatever else is happening, likethat's not cool.
Like you should give theemployees help you.
(41:06):
You obviously started thecompany, but the employees are
what make your company.
So show a little bit ofappreciation.
Maybe not giving them the fullamount, like your whole paycheck
you know what I mean but givethem more at that point they're
helping you grow and then you'llsee less turnover, less, you
know, aggravation from peopleyeah less stress and more work
(41:30):
productivity.
You know, and that's what thatceo did after this whole luigi
movement is like he wasrealizing that, hey, my
employees struggle withinflation right now and I think
I'm well off.
He's probably got enough in hissavings to be fine for a long
time, but again he took a paycut now.
(41:50):
So now he's only again making$70,000 to $80,000 a year.
And his employees are thrivingright now.
They're able to actuallysurvive right now.
They're able to actuallysurvive.
You know, at the place I workat, I'm making maybe thirty
thousand dollars or so a yearand I can't even get an
apartment right now, becauseapartment with inflations are
(42:12):
like I think a startingapartment is like over a
thousand dollars a month.
Speaker 1 (42:17):
Yeah, for a one bedroom.
Even studios are over athousand.
It's, it's insane, yeah it'sinsane.
Speaker 2 (42:21):
And so it's like these ceos.
I think, in a way, again, luigishouldn't have killed somebody.
I'm gonna just keep statingthat, because I'm pretty sure
there might be some people thatare like, oh, he agrees, you
know, no, luigi should not havekilled that ceo.
But I think this, in a way, wasa wake up call for CEOs to
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start treating their people andeven other people with more
respect is what it boils down to, because obviously the ones
that are going to retaliatebecause again, they're more
obsessed with money, becausethey can afford bodyguards or
whatever Like they're not goingto care what they do, like the
peak design guy, he literallyjust said screw you guys, I'm
(43:06):
gonna rat luigi out with the bag.
You know, nancy?
You know nancy parker, she sitsthere, should have just put the
fries in the bag, but shecalled 9-1-1 and now she's
jobless, as far as I know.
But obviously she's probably ona witness protection program
kind of thing.
So cause all the publicity andeverything like that from the
(43:27):
McDonald's and her.
So as far as I know too, Ithink that McDonald's is
actually closed down too, so,which is crazy to think about
like that, all that happened.
But yeah, ceos just need torealize that we're taking this
money thing for granted and ourpeople for granted.
You know, yep, and we need todo something about it, to show
(43:49):
our appreciation and stop beingselfish.
Because why do I need fouryachts, why do I need two
lamborghinis?
Why do I need a, like a 10bathroom mansion with a pool in
each bathroom?
You know why do you need that.
Speaker 1 (44:04):
Technically, though, I mean, I agree with that.
But you could also say thatwealth is subjective, because
someone might be looking at youand be like why does he need a
car and a motorcycle?
Yeah that's true, I'm justsaying like I don't think that
many people are angry at you,but it's just like that's I,
it's just like that's.
Speaker 2 (44:24):
I think that's where the the disconnect and the the
trouble is because, yeah, Ipeople can be kind of subjective
it is and it is and it isn't I.
I will say that, like, I'm notdisagreeing with it and I'm not
agreeing with it because itagain is it's all.
It's all what you use the moneyfor.
Like, yeah, I make enough towhere I can afford a bike and I
can afford a car, and yeah, I'mpaying rent at the place I'm
(44:45):
staying at, so it's not like I'mtotally broke.
Yeah, but at the same time,it's where I'm.
I am using my money wisely forthe most part.
When it comes to everything,whether it comes to bills,
whether it comes to, you know,for fun, you know going out to
eat or something like that itjust again, it it just really um
(45:07):
matters on what you do.
But again, the ceo of walmartdoes not need two yachts.
Like, why, why do you need that?
That is the dumbest thing thatyou could.
You could sell one breaks.
Oh, yeah, because, yeah, isthat what they did with?
Yeah, they did that withtitanic too.
They added like three sisterships to it, so it's like we're
not going down that?
(45:27):
no, we're not, I'm just that'sjust the only example I'm using.
Yeah, so yeah, it's like youcould sell one of your yachts
and you could give a payincrease to everybody or give
them a bonus.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, something that would helpthem out.
I'll tell you this much at thelast place I worked at as a
prime example of how these ceoswork.
(45:49):
So our bonus with the positionthat I last was, um, they only
gave me again for running anentire operation, right?
yeah with two years at leaststarting as experience, but I
also had many years of previousjobs with this experience too,
so I qualified.
(46:10):
They only gave $150 per manager.
Yeah, that's kind of a slap inthe face.
So, yeah, that's kind of a slapin the face for hiring, firing,
dealing with closings andopenings by yourselves or
whatever they did or had to do,and again using their gas money
(46:32):
for all this crap and whatever.
They only get 150 as a bonus,like even people that I knew
that had been there for over I'mnot even joking like this one
dude was there for over 30 years30 years.
Well, at that point he's got togo somewhere else right, and
yeah, that was his own ordeal,but for 30 years you're only
(46:55):
getting 150 bonus.
Yeah, are you kidding likethat's?
No, I'm not kidding like that'sridiculous, like that is a'm
not kidding, like that'sridiculous, like that is a slap
in the face.
But yeah, especially for acorporation.
Speaker 1 (47:07):
Right, if it's a small business, okay yeah.
Speaker 2 (47:11):
If it's like a small mom and pop shop or even a
Speedway gas station like,that's fine as $150.
Walmart, for example, or targetor best buy, whatever, like you
definitely can give a lot morefor a bonus or something you
know what I mean because thatthat really is.
(47:32):
It's a slap in the face forwhat I had to do, as my position
was.
It was ridiculous like I satthere and I was like, cool, this
will cover gas for one week,thanks you're welcome,
appreciate it so and but thenthe new ceo could just go out
and buy a yacht because hedidn't really give out a bonus
(47:53):
this year.
Like I'll say this at the placeI'm working at now guess how
much our uh, christmas bonus isgonna be?
How much?
25, and it's taxed too.
Yeah, it's weird that bonusesare taxed right.
So it's like, okay, stuff and gosomewhere else, bro.
Oh, I trust me, I'm gonna belooking for something.
I'm gonna be.
I'm not planning on staying atthis place forever, but all I'm
(48:16):
saying is is, like that's achristmas bonus it25.
And one other place I worked attoo, again thanks to the CEO,
they gave us our bonus in rewardmoney.
So the place that we worked at,we had like reward cash and all
that other stuff.
So if you earned enough pointsthen you could spend it towards
(48:38):
your purchases or whatever, aslong as it was non-alcohol or
dairy or gift cards and stuff.
They gave us 20 bucks in rewardpoints.
So, not even added to our check, $20 in reward points.
That is the dumbest, cheapestthing you can do.
Speaker 1 (48:56):
This episode is ending on a very, very sad note.
Speaker 2 (48:59):
It is unfortunately.
I think in a a way it's awake-up call for ceos start
treating people better, and I'mnot just talking about the
health care organization I'm not, it's just like everywhere
everywhere too.
Yeah, they, they do, becauseobviously actions have
consequences to an extent.
And again, not saying luigishould have killed the CEO
(49:21):
because he should not havekilled the CEO.
He should have just literallydone something about it in a
nonviolent manner like that, towhere it would have gotten the
point across for people to beable to at least stand up and
still do what they're doing now.
Speaker 1 (49:37):
It is wild to think about that World War.
I was started because thearchduke, france ferdinand, was
assassinated, and right ceos.
They're not archdukes, butthey're powerful people.
So it's like it is kind ofscary to think that maybe there
is going to be a revolution.
It is.
Speaker 2 (49:57):
I will say it is nice to see that the right and left
are agreeing on something thatis true even if it's not
entirely moral right, like again, you could be a trump voter or
a biden voter and I've noticedeven too like I'm a trump
supporter.
I'm just gonna say that I knowcrazy, I'm a trump supporter.
I love the guy since he firstran and even while he was a tv
(50:21):
star guy.
You know on what was it.
You're fired or something likethat, the apprentice yeah like,
I was a fan of his there and I'ma fan of his when he was
president and now he's going tobe president again in january,
so I'm excited for the next fouryears.
But some of my liberal friendsthat I talked to you know they
hate the guy, but they alsoagree on this whole thing that,
(50:42):
like, yeah, insurance companiesand ceos are, you know, complete
and utter crap and they need toget their stuff together at
that point and, uh, that's,that's how it is, that they
really do like, and it's nice tosee everybody like what you're
saying coming together at thatpoint and agreeing on something
like yeah, you may be this and Imay be that, but either way,
(51:07):
this is a common ground thatwe're agreeing on.
Speaker 1 (51:10):
So let's put our differences aside I bet they're
gonna find some way to startdisagreeing like all of a sudden
.
The liberals are gonna be likewait a minute, we actually do
like rich people now yeah, wellwe think they should be able to
buy whatever they want gosh?
Speaker 2 (51:25):
I hope not.
But you notice too on the newsoutlets that they don't talk
about how mad the people areabout this whole like thing,
about how corporate america withtheir ceos are big scams and
everything like that.
They're only talking, talkingabout oh well, luigi did this
and he's in prison now andpeople are hoping that he gets
(51:46):
out soon on parole andeverything else like that.
They're not talking about theeffect of people are upset
there's another word for it but,yeah, people are upset with the
fact that, yeah, noweverybody's seeing what CEOs are
truly about Not all, but mostceos.
(52:07):
So again like, the one examplewas that guy that took over a
million dollar pay cut so thathe could give it to his
employees to show appreciationyou know, yep, and again he's
probably still well set offafter that.
Speaker 1 (52:18):
But again, that's, that's dedication right there to
your company and your employeesyeah, I just wonder if he's
doing it out of fear or out of agenuine change of heart it
could be both like.
Speaker 2 (52:27):
It could be like maybe he was that greedy guy
that didn't give a crap about,and then he found out that luigi
assassinated that ceo and hewas like man.
You know, I have been actuallypretty greedy I can see this
going badly right well, that too.
And then he's like yeah, Iprobably wrongfully like fired
people just because you know,whatever too you know, and so
(52:49):
maybe this is a way even thoughI may not be able to ever repay
back those people I let go orwhatever that maybe I can start
a change today, you know I think, ceos and people of corporate
america need to start doing that.
More car dealerships need toquit charging $100,000 for a
$30,000 Jeep.
You know.
Speaker 1 (53:08):
Yep Well.
Speaker 2 (53:11):
I think we covered it .
Speaker 1 (53:11):
We're just going to go in circles now at this point.
I think that about covers it.
And for my non-Americanlisteners, if you do have
universal health care, what isit like?
If you're listening to onYouTube, you can comment and say
Otherwise, if it's audio, we dohave a text message link that
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you can send to my website.
It'll just go directly to mywebsite.
I will not get your full numberor name or any other
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know.
Otherwise, have a blessed week.
Bye, I love you.
Bye.
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