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An intriguing mix of humor and serious topics dives deep into airplane crashes, media influences, and the reality of gun control and justice. We explore how personal anecdotes shape our understanding of larger societal issues, ultimately challenging our listeners to reflect on their values and beliefs. 

- Opening conversation about winter activities and personal insights
- Discussion on recent airplane crashes and their implications
- Exploration of TikTok's role as a news source and its impact
- Political landscape: humor meets serious debate
- Conversations surrounding gun control laws and personal freedoms
- Discussion on the morality of the death penalty and justice 
- Final thoughts connecting humor with introspection on societal issues

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Perfect.

Speaker 2 (00:00):
Yay, crack a cold one with the boys, dr.

Speaker 1 (00:03):
Pepper, you have yours.
Yes, all right.
Well, it's, the holidays areover.
It's been a while.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
Merry Christmas.

Speaker 1 (00:13):
Yep, merry Christmas, happy New Year.
You guys have not heard myvoice since last year, lol.

Speaker 3 (00:20):
We haven't done it in that long.

Speaker 1 (00:22):
It has been yeah dude 2024, man, when was I think the
last episode came out?
December 13th, was it reallySomething?

Speaker 2 (00:29):
like that Two months ago.
Dang, that's a while.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
Well, like a month and a half ago, well, yeah,
almost two months.
Yeah, holidays are over.
Life is slowing.
Yeah, life is slowing down.
A little bit, sure is, and sonow we can catch up on the pod.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
Yeah, how was your guys' day?

Speaker 1 (00:48):
Good Went ice fishing Freezing Fun.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
Just got out of work an hour ago, so yeah, it's been
fun.
I'm glad it's Saturday becausemy weekends are Sunday and
Mondays are my two days off, soI have like a Tuesday through
Saturday.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
So it's like your Friday today.

Speaker 3 (01:14):
Yeah, are my two days off, so I have like a tuesday
through saturday.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
So it's like your friday today.
Yeah, ethan, your your day.

Speaker 3 (01:16):
I was pretty good I hung out with my dad all day.
What was that?
Don't know?
What'd you guys?
Probably a technical glitch.
Uh, cut wood.
And then I bought him a fan tofilter out cigar smoke out of
our pole barn, and so we wereworking on that.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
Oh, do you have to like?
Put it in the window.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
No, no, we're making a hole through to the cold side
and then up out.
It's going to be cool.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
Yeah, I'm sure that'll help.
It will Significantly.

Speaker 3 (01:39):
Yeah, went to Taco Bell too.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
Sounds delicious actually.
Dude, I have not been to tacobell in forever.
Don't get their chicken nuggets.

Speaker 3 (01:50):
They have chicken nuggets.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
Yeah, they have yeah, it's a new item.
They have chicken nuggets andit's like the one that's on uh
chicago drive.
They literally have like it'slike they deep fried the chicken
for so long.
It's like crunch.
So all you're getting is likereally crunchy chicken rocks,
pretty much like yeah it.
Like.
I'm like, oh, I can't even eatone.
It hurt that bad.

(02:11):
Like crunch down on it.
So I was like all right, cool,so skip that.
Then I went to another tacobell same thing happened.
They like overcooked it so itwas like what's the point of
even like saying oh, check outour new product, it's really
filled with juicy chicken, andthen it's like crunch.
That's all I have to say.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
Yeah, so anyway, yeah , ethan, we all got.
You guys got stuff to talkabout.
Well, we already know you'regoing to do TikTok Yep, but I'm
still curious as to know,because you were the one that
really oh, dude, I just miss youguys, so that's why you know,
uh but uh there there was twoplanes that crashed.

Speaker 3 (02:58):
And then what was it?

Speaker 2 (02:59):
a 48 hour period yeah , it was something like 48
american planes.
One was like a, a Black Hawkand a passenger jet plane.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
Yeah, like a 60-person passenger plane.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
And there were no survivors, hit the helicopter?

Speaker 3 (03:14):
There was none, I thought they pulled four people
out.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
Like they were alive.
What I heard recently likeTrump announced that no one
survived.
There are no survivors.

Speaker 3 (03:23):
So they pulled four bodies out.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
Pretty much Out of the water.
Sorry, it happened in new yorkyou guys keep talking, I'm gonna
get the charger for my camera.

Speaker 3 (03:32):
Yeah, you're good, okay.
So it happened in new york wentinto the water.
It was like blown in half.
Yeah, I thought there was foursurvivors that they pulled out.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
Maybe it was four bodies yeah, I was gonna was
going to say because I feel like, at least for me, because,
again, I scroll through TikTok.
I'm one of those people where Iget my news source.
That's how you found out.

Speaker 3 (03:54):
Yeah, pretty much.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
I found out through TikTok because, again, it's like
my media source for news andpolitics and all that other
stuff and politics and all thatother stuff.
So I I was, uh, I saw anannouncement that trump was
doing on um, I forget what newsnetwork, but everywhere it was
showing.
Basically, like he said there,there are no survivors wow but
the thing is too, is that thathelicopter is was a military

(04:18):
helicopter, yeah, and it'sequipped with, like night vision
and all this other stuff.

Speaker 3 (04:23):
Heat-seeking missiles , right?
No, I'm just kidding.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
So how does a helicopter that has all this
modern-day technology just notsee a passenger plane?
Because it was dark out, butthere were lights.

Speaker 3 (04:38):
On the plane, obviously On the plane, so you
would have seen it.
It came at a weird angle,though.
I think it was like that Right,not head-on, not head-on,
head-on.
Yeah, it was like kind oftilted a little bit like.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
But yeah, like it was really weird and I'm like
there's.
I feel like there's somethingmore to it, yeah like who was on
it.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
Once we get the names of the people who were on it,
we'll know oh, they have thenames oh yeah, for sure they do
they.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
They have the names now officially of everybody that
obviously died.

Speaker 3 (05:07):
But the helicopter, I guess, was flying 400 or 200
feet over what it was supposedto.
They're supposed to only be at200 feet.
They were at 400 feet okay soit's kind of the helicopter's
fault yeah, I would.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
I would blame the helicopter 100%.
It was a totally avoidable.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
Yeah, not kind of it was.
Well, you know what I?

Speaker 2 (05:26):
mean, I just say kind of because that's just my lingo
for stuff, but yeah, it was thehelicopter's fault 100%,
especially again equipped withnight vision and all that other
crap, and it's military.
So you would think you know,obviously aircraft pilots have
to be like 100% on point withtheir stuff.
Yeah, because if aircraftpilots have to be like a hundred
percent like on point withtheir stuff yeah, because if
they miss something, then gameover.

Speaker 3 (05:48):
At that point yeah, other people die exactly and
same thing with the militarythey did.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
Well, yeah, they did and with the military copter too
, it's same thing is like theyhave people on board and if they
mess up something, thensomething can happen, and I feel
like, to that degree, we're notgetting all the information
about what exactly happened.
Granted, this did happenrecently, so they're still
investigating what caused it.

Speaker 3 (06:15):
Yeah, I think it's a cover-up.
It's a huge cover-up.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
Yeah, because I mean, I think it could.
I wouldn't put it past him,Because again it's like who's on
the plane?

Speaker 2 (06:25):
Right, If you also think about it too.
The Malaysia flight, that onejust disappeared out of nowhere
for whatever reason.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
That was years ago, right, yeah, it was years ago,
but it's like nobody's found it.
Nobody knows what happenedthere has been some plane
crashes worldwide AroundChristmas time.
There was some that happened, Ithink one in South Korea where
it crashed into something andcaught flames and I think
everybody died.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
There was another one that just happened recently too
.
I don't know if it was inArkansas or something like that.

Speaker 3 (06:58):
It was in Philadelphia.
That's what it was.
The second one.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
Philadelphia.
I was seeing that one and itwas like there were plane parts
and everything like that, fireengines and everything and I was
like holy crap.

Speaker 3 (07:09):
I saw a pretty good video of that and it looked like
it just like came straight down.
It was a.
It was a medic like a fighterjet thing or something it was
like a medic plane, yeah, like amedic plane, yeah because there
was another one.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
I saw too where it was a fighter jet and it was
doing like a medic plane.
Yeah, because there was anotherone.
I saw too where it was afighter jet and it was doing
like a test flight.
And then all of a sudden itjust went like it was like poof,
but the guy survived.
I don't know how he survived,but he survived, and the whole
plane engulfed in flames.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
Oh, he ejected right that one.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
I think so yeah.

Speaker 3 (07:40):
Wait after the, you're saying it was free, or
what.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
The first one I found out about was the fighter jet
that was.
It was doing a test run or testflight and it just like when it
was landing or something likethat, it just kind of like like
a leaf falling.

Speaker 3 (07:55):
Like the wind, caught it bad Something.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
And then it just went , and then you see the video and
it just engulfed in flames.
And then I heard about this onewith the helicopter and the
passenger plane.
And then there was the otherone that crashed, the one in
philadelphia yeah, and it camedown like a missile.

Speaker 3 (08:10):
I saw a ring yeah video of it and it was.
It was bad.
It came down so quick.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
Yeah, it was like oh, geez, I'm like holy crap, like
what the heck is happening withall these like airplanes and
stuff.
It almost feels like people arelike oh, an airplane's so much
safer.
Hmm, I'm not really buying thatright now considering the
amount of crashes they have.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
But I will say that when the crashes happen, it's
more scary because it's likethis thing is falling out of the
sky and it's like 60 people dieat once.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
Right, and it can kill people on the ground.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
Yeah too, yeah versus like yeah, car accident, I mean
it's still a tragedy, but it'sone or two people dying exactly
yeah, no big deal yeah, I'm justkidding, dude, there's been
plenty of pileups.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
So, like in michigan, like 11 car pileups yeah, there
was a car pile, there was onewith like two or three semis
that like slid off the road.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
One slid off and tipped on the road and the other
two were blocking the wholehighway because they were like
skidding and went sideways andthen there was like a nine car
pile up jack jack knife likeyeah, it was crazy, let's pile
up like a bunch of accidents, oryou mean like a traffic jam,
like no, yeah, like a bunch ofcars into something
yeah, like.
So if, like, let's say, a semitire or a semi truck, you know,

(09:28):
tire pops or something like thatand it squeals and it tips or
whatever and then it lands onits side, because obviously once
you lose a tire you're notgonna be able to really control
it, so then everybody elsebehind the semi is like breaking
for dear life and they can'tstop.

Speaker 3 (09:44):
They can't stop.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
So then it just turns into a car pile up, so that
pile up, pile up, pile up andthat's why it's like in the snow
.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
I don't understand why people are tailgating like
there's a semi and I'm on thehighway.
I'm not near it.
No, it's, it's gonna be wellwithin well, and that's the
thing too distance.

Speaker 2 (10:02):
Every year people, at least here in michigan, forget
how to drive and I don't knowhow you forget.
Everybody knows that's been inmichigan for years driving knows
on how michigan's like wintersget.
I've been driving now since2012 yeah, yeah, but this year
specifically like it's cold,it's cold it.

(10:24):
But I mean, like it stillwasn't that bad driving, like I
had no problem and I have afront-wheel drive car.
Well, that's why it's a loteasier.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
It's just hard Well if you have a rear-wheel drive
car or van.
Usually there are trucks orvans.
It's hard to drive that.
See, I've never wheel drivevehicle.
I've had a four by four whichis my jeep, and then I've had

(10:52):
the two hondas.
So but I will say that one ofthe problems is people either
going way too fast or too slow.

Speaker 3 (10:55):
Or too slow, because when you're going too slow it's
like people want to pass you,but they get in another lane,
they just lose control.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
Yeah, because the lanes are thinner because the
snow is piling up on the side ofthe road and then you're going
like I think 20 miles an hour isway too slow.
Yeah, like I don't.
Obviously, if you're goingslower it's fine.
Like if it's 55 and you'regoing like 40 or 45, okay,
that's fine.
But when you're going 20, it'slike you shouldn't have left the
house no, you should just pullover and let everybody pass you

(11:19):
at that point.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
There was a news clip I saw a while ago.
I think it was like in aYouTube compilation of like
funny news moments or something.
I just ran, I was bored andwatched it and there was a girl
and it was like the news andpolice stations have advised
everybody from the winter hazardto stay inside because it's
cold, it's icy and nobody's likethey're closing down highways

(11:42):
and stuff and so stay off theroads unless you absolutely have
to.
And then they interview a girland she's like well, I just
wanted to get donuts, so that'swhy I'm out right now.
Literally I was like you arestupid, Like that's how people
are.

Speaker 3 (11:54):
They're like she gets there and they aren't even open
.
That's how it is, well on that.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
what was it?
It wasn't like not this pastTuesday, but the Tuesday of last
week, so I don't know what thedate would have been like
January 12th or 14th maybe 14th?

Speaker 2 (12:09):
I think I don't remember.

Speaker 3 (12:10):
Yeah, it was really cold.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
Yeah, it was really cold.
I drove like an hour south togo snowboarding.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
What was it like?
I'm one of those people.
Was it like negative?
Or was it like zero, or was itlike it?

Speaker 1 (12:21):
was, it was four degrees, and then, when the sun
went down, it was zero.

Speaker 3 (12:26):
oh, yeah, I was out amazon delivering.
That's crazy.
It was really cold.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
They called us back because it was so cold see, okay
, at least they did that,because that's the one thing I
do hate about the corporate.
Like america, at least withsome things, like I get it, like
you have certain products thatneed to get out, but when the
weather is that bad, stop.
Let your people be at home forthe day.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
At the same time, there's certain things that just
can't shut down.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
For example, retail stores as dumb as I think it is,
an auto parts store, or even agrocery store, for that matter.
Okay, like you guys knew on theweather station that the
weather was going to be bad onthis day, so why are you waiting
till the day of to go get stuff, stuff and I, I feel like

(13:22):
you're saying that's worthretail.
I feel like.
I feel like you're sayingthat's worked retail for over 10
years.

Speaker 1 (13:27):
I feel like you're saying the auto parts, because
you work there, but people'scars break down the day of
sometimes.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
I know they do and it does suck.
But there have been people whoare like okay, I'll tell you
this as an example, back when Iworked at my old store no joke
it was.
I think in the negatives is howcold it was Plus the wind chill
made it, I think, negative 15,I think it was.
I think in the negatives is howcold it was plus the wind chill
made it, I think negative 15, Ithink it was.
It was really that cold out andyou couldn't see anything

(13:53):
outside, like they were advisingpeople and businesses to close
their doors so their employeescould go home, yeah, and my
store was like, no, we're notletting you do that, even if it
is negative out.
We had one or two people comeinto that store separately to
get an air freshener.
That is what I'm talking about.

Speaker 3 (14:13):
Do you really need this air freshener Right?

Speaker 2 (14:15):
Like an air freshener is not going to save you from
negative 15 degrees like outside.
Like either, come in for anactual auto party.

Speaker 1 (14:23):
Because what if your car is really stinky and you
can't stand?

Speaker 2 (14:25):
to be in there.

Speaker 1 (14:26):
Well then they better say, uh-oh, Get out of there.
And then you put the car airfreshener in there and then it's
like, okay, now I can sit inthis warm car because it smells
good.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
That's so stupid.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
I think that's like a one in a million emergency, but
it could happen.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
That is not an emergency.
You're bored at home and you'reimpulse buying at that point.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
Yeah, I remember that because.
Jets closed early I think thatwas like a couple years ago.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
Yeah, like I'm sorry, Like okay, you're at home bored
and you're going to make adelivery guy risk his life for a
pizza and then tip him fivebucks.
It's like $5 is not worthrisking the life.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
Yeah, I want at least 10 when it's when it's that bad
out.
And and then they also are likeannoyed that you're late.
It's like, first of all, whenit's that bad out, you're not
the only one with the idea tohave your pizza delivered, right
, everybody and their brother isgetting it.
And then it's on a weeknight,so I'm the only one working, so

(15:24):
I'm the only one delivering andso it's like they just pile up.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
And then it's on a weeknight, so I'm the only one
working, so I'm the only onedelivering, and so it's like
they just pile up and then Ithink at that point, like for
severe weather conditions, ifit's like the business's choice
to stay open, and like for adelivery driver, for example, I
think they really should likeincrease the tip.
Like this is the minimum thatyou're tipping, because they're
like the delivery charge rightor the delivery charged, like

(15:48):
that's what they should doduring severe weather, because
it's like it's not worth it ifI'm going to deliver.
Let's say they just want like ahot and ready pizza right from
little caesars yeah and thenthey they sit there, they're 20
minutes away and either a theydon't tip you or b they give you
a two dollar tip and it's likeyeah yeah, because that happens

(16:08):
yeah, I would probably give younegative money yeah, exactly, it
wouldn't be worth like thattake his money, that ain't gonna
do anything

Speaker 1 (16:14):
for gas even too.

Speaker 2 (16:15):
That's what I'm saying is like it's, is it worth
the risk at that point?
No, it's not.
I would rather be at home orcall in at that point.
If that's what it's going to belike, I'm not going to sit
there.

Speaker 3 (16:30):
You're like, this took more than 25 minutes.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
It's free, right?
Yeah, there's people like thattoo.
It's like, oh, you know fastand furious delivery and stuff
like that.
I couldn't think of the otherword I was thinking of for
speedy, but yeah, there's peopleout there they're like oh, if
it's not here in 30 minutes,then it must be free.
And then they crack that joke,yeah, and it's never funny.

(16:52):
No, it never is.
It's just like the thing thatwhen you scan an item and it
doesn't scan, it's like oh, mustbe free same with people who
are like you.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
Got any more in that car.
I feel like you delivered it ifyou ordered it.
No like, if you like, theneighbors are asking you oh so
you deliver it and theirneighbors are like you got any
more in the back of the car.

Speaker 2 (17:14):
I'm always like, yeah , let me check, and then I just
drive away yeah, or they walk inyour story like beautiful day,
isn't it and it's like clearlynot, pal.
I don't know what you're tryingto do.
Lighten the mood, mood?
No, it's not working.
Shut up.

Speaker 1 (17:26):
It's usually not very funny when they do that.
No, Just old jokes.
So plane crashes.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
Yeah, literally went from that to that.
Good Lord, do you have anythingmore to add on it?

Speaker 3 (17:39):
No no.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
That was it.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
Honestly, I don't even really know much about them
because I have been staying offsocial media for the most part,
so I just saw like glimpses ofplanes and it was mostly like
Democrats blame Trump and Trumpblames Democrats for it, and
it's like oh okay.

Speaker 3 (17:59):
I can't do this.
It can't be nobody's fault.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
That's media for you.

Speaker 3 (18:03):
It can't be an accident.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
Yeah, yeah, I mean for you it can't be an accident.

Speaker 2 (18:06):
Yeah, yeah, I mean exactly, it can't be yeah like
and that's the other thing toois like why do they have to get
politics in the thing for it?
You know what I mean?
Like you could have it whereall mcdonald's shut down and
they're gonna be like it's thedemocrats, and then the
democrats are gonna be like it'sthe republicans, and it's just
like, oh, oh, okay, cool, maybeit was just a business idea to

(18:27):
shut down completely.
I'm just saying that's howmedia gets nowadays.
It's all political.

Speaker 1 (18:33):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (18:34):
Well, that's what makes money, but Trump won so.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
Yeah, that's true, that is true.

Speaker 3 (18:50):
And I'm going to be glad to be rich again to that
extent because I know, when acertain old man was running the
office, I wasn't rich and no,neither was the rest of america
at that point.
You know what did happen.
Gas dropped a week after,literally, trump was in.
I was like I feel like it wouldhave been the other way.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
It's like what 288 right now yeah, it's so cheap
yeah, and it was like almostfour.
It actually went over fourdollars when b Biden was in
office.
Yeah, like that's.
The other thing too, is I'mjust like that's ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
Stephan, you think that because Trump is in office,
you're going to be rich now.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
Well, I mean, here's the thing I know when Trump was
in office in 2020 like beforeCOVID and crap, like I had money
to be able to afford rent.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:22):
I had money to be able to afford rent.
Yeah, I had money to be able toafford my car insurance.
Now I'm literally workingovertime to barely make it or at
least not I shouldn't saybarely make it, because I could
still make it by but I basicallyhave to budget everything way
more not go out to eat, not even.

Speaker 3 (19:40):
I mean, I have money for a little bit of that.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
But the groceries, yeah, the groceries are already
expensive, as heck Dude.

Speaker 1 (19:45):
how are we going to Texas after this?
I?

Speaker 3 (19:47):
don't know.
We're going to Texas.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
It's going to be a long flight.

Speaker 1 (19:53):
Long flight.
Worth it, though.
Yeah, I'm not getting on aflight.

Speaker 3 (19:56):
Yeah, we're getting on Joe Rogan already.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
I think the last flight I got on was when we went
to conferences back at my store.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
Oh, and that actually was in Texas, wasn't it?

Speaker 2 (20:08):
Yeah, that was in Austin.
We went to for the conventionand yeah, it was all paid for
and everything like that.
It's actually really nice downthere.
7-eleven is like the speedwayof here.
There are 7-Elevens aroundevery corner.

Speaker 1 (20:22):
There was a lot in Florida too.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
Yeah, I bet you it's warmer down there.
Yeah Well, right now.

Speaker 1 (20:28):
Well, it was funny In Michigan.

Speaker 2 (20:30):
Yeah, it's warmer down there In Michigan when we
went, and when my boss at mycurrent job is at, when she went
down there, it was like peoplewere wearing T-shirts and then
people here, obviously,obviously, are all bundled up in
their coats and scarves andlittle beanie hats and I'm like
dang, that's like a huge changeright there.
It was still like cold.

Speaker 1 (20:51):
Yeah, it's almost like Texas is closer to the
equator, or something Crazy,dude I didn't even know that.
Last point I went on wasactually this Christmas for
Disney World.

Speaker 2 (21:03):
And how was the magical kingdom?

Speaker 3 (21:05):
I would never go back never, uh, that's that's one
thing I don't.

Speaker 1 (21:11):
I don't know how good vacations really are for people
like I think it depends on,like, what kind you go on yeah,
I, I mean, I think too there issuch a thing as like overdoing
it too yeah, because I think ifyou're camping or outdoors I
would be fine.
But just sitting in a hotel andbeing surrounded by tons of
people and just like disneystuff, like I came back, yeah I

(21:36):
came back just like waydepressed and like it took me a
while to get back into myroutine of working out and post
sleep scheduling and everythingpost disney depression post
disney depression yeah, but likeeating healthy, getting back
into like cooking my own foodand because I was like kind of
going out to eat a little bitmore when I got back and I

(21:58):
wasn't going to the gym, I wasjust sitting around, it was
weird.

Speaker 3 (22:01):
I've never had it like that bad yeah, disney, it
just messes up your wholeschedule I already don't care
for disney anymore at this.

Speaker 2 (22:08):
Well, yeah, neither do I it's just.
There are some disney adults,though, that are still lingering
out there.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
It's ridiculous yeah, there's a lot more than some.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
There's plenty yeah, and from what he told me too,
it's like it's just not evenworth it, like going there and
like what, what they charge youlike 600 bucks a person seven
thousand dollars, yeah, it'sseven thousand no, I think it's
actually each park is about twohundred dollars.

Speaker 1 (22:37):
And how many parks are there?

Speaker 2 (22:38):
four so like.

Speaker 1 (22:39):
So there's magic kingdom well, if you go to each
one, I only went to MagicKingdom and That'd be $800.

Speaker 2 (22:49):
Well, I was like almost a grand.
I don't know if it's like, isit $200 flat or is there taxes?

Speaker 1 (22:54):
Well, it's like some of them are $150,.
Some of them are a little moreexpensive.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
Oh, I thought all of them were like $200 flat.

Speaker 1 (22:59):
Yeah, they're a little bit different, but
they're roughly $200.
There like a little bitdifferent, but they're roughly
200 bucks.
Okay, there's a mickey tax,yeah, which is additional 200.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
Um, but it was funny because my niece, who was like
five, met fancy nancy, whichI've never, I don't know who's
fancy.

Speaker 1 (23:18):
Yeah, I don't know either, but she got done.
She's like.
I know that wasn't really herself-aware child it was like the
buddy of the elf when he's likeyou're not Santa.
Oh yeah, you smell like beefand cheese.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
You don't smell like the real.

Speaker 1 (23:30):
Santa.
Yeah, it reminded me of that.

Speaker 2 (23:32):
You know what's funny , speaking of Will Ferrell and
the elf.
So you know that creepy, likewhat is it?
The Home Depot, like elf statuethat you know, like how people
during Halloweenlloween they'llhave those like animatronic
things that like if you go nearit it's like a sensor and it
goes off.
Oh I hate those.
Those are so annoying they haveone of buddy the elf and it's
like the worst thing to everlook at and it's creepy.

(23:55):
It doesn't even look like willferrell.
It looks like the bootlegversion of elf and they brought
it out to will ferrell to showhim on an interview show and he
was like get that thing away.
I didn't sign approval for that.
I don't know who gave him thelicensing for that.

Speaker 3 (24:13):
But yeah, he was like yeah, can you do copyright for
that?

Speaker 2 (24:15):
Technically Can he.
If he wanted to, he could, butI don't?

Speaker 3 (24:18):
He wouldn't make so much money doing that.
Oh, absolutely.
If it was copyright Well doingthat?

Speaker 2 (24:22):
oh, it was copyright.
Well, the thing is, I don'teven think a whole lot of people
are buying it until it becamelike a trend because of how like
disgusting it is do?

Speaker 3 (24:29):
those censored animatronics scare you when you
walk by them I just hate whenthey go off like a ton of times.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
Yeah, they usually scare me on the first time, but
then like, yeah, you're likethis is annoying yeah, yeah,
spirit of halloween did not havea whole lot of stuff this year
or last year, I should say withuh, because usually when you
walk into a spirit of halloweendid not have a whole lot of
stuff this year or last year.
I should say with uh, becauseusually when you walk into a
spirit of halloween, they havethose animatronics that like
jump out if you like, put yourfoot down here on the pad, and
I'll tell you what.
Don't ever do that.

(24:55):
What the jump?
Put your foot down on the pad.
Yeah, it was the funniest thing,though, because my niece and
nephew were in there looking fortheir halloween costumes and
them being like eight and six,it is so funny to see a kid get
scared like that.
So I would sit there andthey're walking by and I would
like quickly go right in frontof them and put my foot down on

(25:17):
the pad.
And there was this one thatlike lunged out like that and
they just fell on the ground andthey were screaming.
It was hilarious, and mybrother's like don't do that to
them.
And then he does it like twoseconds later with another
animatronic to the same kid toboth of them and they both got
scared.
It was like a clown, like theclowns from outer space or
whatever.

Speaker 1 (25:37):
That old 1980s movie killer clowns from killer.
Yeah, killer clowns from outerspace.

Speaker 2 (25:42):
Yeah, they had like one of the clowns with a hammer
that had blood on it orsomething like that.

Speaker 1 (25:47):
I feel like those movies were way scarier than
what we have now.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
Well, back then, yeah , because back then the
technology was limited, and soit's like, oh my gosh, this is
crazy, but they would put peoplein cotton candy.

Speaker 3 (26:00):
Oh yeah, Like the cotton candy cocoons candy, oh
yeah, like the candy cocoons.
Yeah, that's weird.
Yeah, I don't think I've seenwhat you guys are talking.
Oh, it's killer clowns, it'sweird.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
It's one of those weird horror movies.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
Yeah and it's oh, what was the other one?
What santa sleigh?
There was that one where santaclaus is like a killer and he's
like he makes a good premise, hemakes christmas puns too.
It's great.
He's like creeping throughsomebody's house trying to kill
him and he's like not a creaturewas stirring and it's just like
I think it's about to come downyour chimney.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
I think it's more funny than it is scary.
It's amazing because it's santaclaus and he does use, like the
christmas one liner he coulddefinitely kill a lot of people
if he really and then jack blackmade this dumb one recently on
netflix or something where it'slike it's called satan or
something it's called dear satan.
Is that what it is?
Because the kid spells santawrong yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
And then like he's like I'm santa claus and it's
like jack black.
And then he's like, wait, dothis.
And then he turns into santaand he goes see, the horns are
gone and I'm in a holly, jollyred suit, and then the kid
believes like he's Santa thiswhole time.
But he really.
He's like some what son ofSatan or something.

Speaker 1 (27:12):
I think he's supposed to be Satan.
Oh, he is supposed to be.
Well, it's called Dear Satan.

Speaker 2 (27:16):
Oh, that's true.
Yeah, so then he's like reallySatan and stuff.
My brother and his girl watchedit recently, so I know it's
like.
I mean there's only like acouple funny parts in it.

Speaker 1 (27:30):
Otherwise it's like why did Jack Black do this?
I can't believe as a Christian.
You even looked at that movie.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
To be fair, though, it looks a lot better than the
Minecraft movie that he's comingout with.

Speaker 3 (27:41):
What are you wishing to Satan, though?

Speaker 2 (27:44):
What do you mean?
What am I wishing to say?
Satan, though, what do you mean?
What am I wishing to?

Speaker 3 (27:45):
say I'm not wishing anything heck.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
No, no, he there.
You should just have you seenthe minecraft trailer with jack
black in it.
No, it is the dumbest it looks.
I'm not a movie person at all,oh you're not no, it's the
dumbest thing ever.
He sits there and and he comesout like what's his name?

Speaker 3 (28:05):
The guy who plays Aquaman?
Oh, jason Momoa yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
Yeah, he comes out and he goes who are you?
And then Jack Black no joke,like Steve from Minecraft light
blue shirt, purple pants, andhe's just like I am Steve.
That's pretty good, and helooks just like how he is, like
it's a real live action with cgiyeah, they didn't.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
They should have made it.
They should have made them likeminecraft looking, yeah, and
like the lego movie they didn'thave.
Like chris pratt walking aroundin a lego village.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
It was like a lego person voiced by yeah, with,
like, with, like hands, likethis, like just posed all the
time.

Speaker 3 (28:44):
Wasn't that 100% CGI though?

Speaker 1 (28:48):
I think, yeah, there was no live action.
I'm just saying like theyshould have done that with
Minecraft.

Speaker 3 (28:53):
but instead, the actors are like they look like
the actual actors.
Yeah, that would be cool.
You think so yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
Well, yeah, because I mean, even if you think about
it too, look at how some other,like they, did the mario, I
don't all cgi, I think it's lamebrought it up, I did because of
jack black, we were talkingabout that dear satan or
whatever.
But, um, yeah, like with um, themario brothers movie, you know
chris pratt walking around asmario and stuff.

(29:21):
That was all cgi and everythinglike that.
Nothing was like live action,obviously being a kid's movie,
granted.
Then too you have the sonic thehedgehog movie.
That's like a combination ofboth, but it's mostly.
The characters are cgi,obviously.
And then you have the humanportrayation of, like, the
humans of the human world, kindof thing yeah, I've seen both of
those, yeah you should see thethird one the third one

Speaker 3 (29:43):
I haven't seen any of them, have you not any of?

Speaker 2 (29:46):
them.
The first one is just obviouslythe setup of how sonic came
into our world.
Second one has tails knucklesin it, and then well, don't tell
me well, I mean, it's not likeI'm majorly spoiling it.

Speaker 3 (29:58):
The the first movie came out in 2020.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
On this, if nobody has seen sonic the hedgehog it's
only 2025.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
Okay, I know, I haven't seen a movie since, like
you know, sonic 2019, so that'snot true.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
Sonic three years.
We saw that we saw that one notthis past halloween yeah 2023
halloween.
Dude, you gotta come to thismovie.
It was like oh, yeah, theweirdest movie ever.
It wasn't really scary, it wasjust so creepy yeah, I listened
to a podcast on it.

Speaker 3 (30:31):
I was like I really want to buy and watch it, did
you?

Speaker 1 (30:34):
listen to them when they were on joe rogan's podcast
.
And then you went and saw.
Yeah, I did the opposite.
I went and saw and then I waslike I want to know the guys who
made this.
And then I was like, whoa, thismakes a lot of, I feel like it
makes sense that I invited youover, right?

Speaker 3 (30:46):
No?

Speaker 1 (30:49):
It was the weirdest movie.
What was that?

Speaker 3 (30:53):
movie called again Talk to Me.
Oh yeah, don't watch it.
If you're a Christian, justdon't do it.

Speaker 2 (30:59):
Wait, really Is it bad.

Speaker 3 (31:01):
Yeah, it's pretty bad .
It's uh.
Yeah, it's pretty bad it'spretty messed up.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
It's not even like scary that scary, it's just
messed up.
Yeah, like, just like demonic.
I would consider like one ofthose.
Would you consider like ademonic movie?
I mean they're literallypossessed by a demon when they
touch the hand.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
Yeah, like yeah, for real.
Like is it like live footage oris it like all?

Speaker 1 (31:19):
no, it's it's a movie .
It's made by australiandirectors.
It's all movie, it's all acting.
But it's a movie, it's made byAustralian directors, it's all
movie, it's all acting, but it'sjust like really creepy.
Now you're intrigued and youwant to go see it.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
I mean I am kind of intrigued because I mean I think
Don't see it, did we watch?
I think the first horror moviethat we watched was Paranormal
Activity.

Speaker 1 (31:41):
Yeah, those movies are dumb.
They're not scary at all.

Speaker 2 (31:42):
The first one scared the crap out of me because that
one seemed more real, because itwas like they had cameras
around their house and stuffyeah, and it was like the the
main focus was the bedroom,because that's where most of the
activity happened and obviouslythat's where most of the
activity happened.

Speaker 1 (31:57):
Yeah, and it looked like oh wow, I'm telling, I'm
telling my mom.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
No she already knows.
But yeah, no, the movie is.
It looks like legit, likeparanormal activity Kind of like
when people first saw the BlairWitch Project and they thought
it was like real.
At first I thought I'm like howthe heck did they?
How has nobody seen this?
And then they got really lameand hollywoodie with, uh,
paranormal activity two andthree and four, I think.

(32:28):
I think there's at least threeor four yeah, there's some
movies.

Speaker 3 (32:31):
You just you can't make another one.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
You don't need to just stop.
Yeah, yeah, like the lion kinglike toy story toy.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
Yeah, they're on five now, yeah, I thought it ended
on three because they had thatfire scene where they're all
going on the fire, and then theyhad the clouds from Andy's room
in the background.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
And then now the fourth one Buzz and Woody break
up.
And then in the fifth one, nowthey somehow get back together.
And now it's a bunch of AI,Buzz Lightyear action figures
that go rogue.
No, like they split, yeah thewoke version of toy story.

Speaker 1 (33:08):
I wouldn't be surprised is he still being
voiced by tim allen?

Speaker 2 (33:10):
yeah, all of them are still like the original voices
and everything, obviously,except for mr potato head,
because the voice actor for himpassed away.
Um, before the end of toy story, which means he died.

Speaker 3 (33:20):
Yeah, yeah, but they can get another person that
sounds exactly like him well,now that you have AI, you can
mimic anybody's voice.

Speaker 2 (33:27):
at this point, True.
What they did for Toy Story 4is they took clips from the
deleted scenes, the video gamesand other movies and stuff, and
they merged it with AI to createa smoother transition for the
words, so that way Mr PotatoHead could still be in the movie
.

Speaker 3 (33:44):
for the fourth one, but doesn't he have to consent
to that, or does he?
Get royalties does he getroyalties?

Speaker 2 (33:50):
I'm sure, the family, his family, I mean his family
get royalties yeah, the familyI'm sure gets like something for
it, because there's no way thatthey're just going to steal his
voice without the family'spermission at that point.
Yeah, because it's like to saylike um, I think they did
something for steve oh yeahhappy feet because steve irwin
was a seagull.
And uh, happy feet.
I found out recently.
I was like I didn't even knowthat.

(34:12):
What if that?
was all he said yeah, he's likecrikey mate, that's a sperm
whale there or whatever, andhe's like it's one of the
biggest mammals in the ocean anduh, and he's talking like the
happy.
I forget a mumble, that's whathis name was and uh, yeah.
And then at the end it sayslike, uh, in memory of steve

(34:32):
irwin.
And they did the same thingwith like what was it?
The?
Um, the night at the museumwhen robert williams passed away
?

Speaker 3 (34:40):
yeah, because, like they had to, because, yeah, they
weren't quite done with thatmovie, right?

Speaker 2 (34:44):
No, they were done with it.
It was just that he passed away, I think, before it hit
theaters, so they paid like anhomage to him.
I don't know if you got to seethe actual screening for it or
not Before he passed away.
Like what was that 2014?
He passed away.

Speaker 3 (35:02):
Yeah, I'm still broken up about it, that's crazy
.

Speaker 1 (35:07):
I've already forgotten about him from not
being hang.

Speaker 3 (35:09):
Who is it?

Speaker 1 (35:10):
it's crazy but my question is if they're using ai
to mimic the mr potato head'svoice, do they need consent from
the family if it's nottechnically his voice?

Speaker 2 (35:22):
well, if they're gathering, like what they did in
toy story, uh for like clipsfrom again, like the video games
, the other movies, the shows,like the spin-off shows or
whatever, like when they takeclips from that so it would just
actual audio plus ai.
It's still using clips fromthose, so it's not like just

(35:43):
straight up using ai.
So if they do it in toy story 5, that might be different, but I
don't think they're going to.
I think, if anything, they'reprobably gonna like find some
excuse to be like hey like mrpotato head.
Uh was given away because thelittle girl didn't like him
anymore, or something like that,so and then they'll have.
I think actually the girl too,for mrs potato had uh passed

(36:05):
away too.
So I don't think the potatoheads are.

Speaker 3 (36:08):
Why is everybody dying?
I mean, this is getting old.

Speaker 2 (36:11):
James earl jones died too the original voice for
mufasa so see, I know him asdarth vader I knew him as mufasa
and then darth vader and thenhe also, I didn't know like he
did something else too I'mtrying to remember.
I think he did like some disney, uh, he also, I didn't know
like he did.
Something else too I'm tryingto remember.

Speaker 1 (36:26):
I think he did like some disney uh he also, I think,
on audible you can have himread the bible really yeah, I
didn't know that wait as darthvader yeah, the darth vader
voice.
He's not.

Speaker 3 (36:38):
He's not darth vader reading the bible yeah, he's not
doing the breathing thing, butit's his voice, but he has that
iconic voice.

Speaker 1 (36:47):
It's a good voice.

Speaker 2 (36:47):
It's like Morgan Freeman too.
Morgan Freeman just has thaticonic voice.

Speaker 3 (36:51):
I think he did sign his royalties over who?
Morgan Freeman.

Speaker 2 (36:56):
Morgan Freeman yeah, I'm pretty sure he did.

Speaker 3 (36:58):
I know he's still alive, but you have to sign over
before you die.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
Yeah, like so I would feel like at that point, yeah,
if they got clips or somethinglike that of you to a degree
like, yeah, they'll be able to,um, do something.
I mean the guy that also rightnow voices well, he voiced mario
, charles matinee, I think ishow you pronounce his last name
uh, nintendo got rid of his, uh,his, um, what do you call it?

(37:24):
Um character?
Well, not the character mario,but they got rid of him doing
the voices for mario.
Whoa, yeah, literally like, andhe had, yeah, and he still has
like recordings everywhere.
But now it's like two differentpeople voicing mario and luigi.
So, because he used to do likeall the voices, he did mario,
luigi, wario, waluigi, he did uh, I'm trying to think of who

(37:48):
else he did on there too, butlike, he did like a lot of the
voices.
And now nintendo is like havingto hire all these new people.
And mario, he, I mean, he stillsounds like mario, but he's
like a way younger version ofmario same with I'm so out of
the loop.

Speaker 3 (38:03):
Yeah, it's crazy yeah , you're really in the loop I am
in the loop.
I wish I was in the loop likeyou.

Speaker 2 (38:08):
Well, this was like I found out about mario, like
this was like maybe a year ortwo ago, because charles matinee
came on.
Uh I, it was a television, Ithink it was a news source.
I just googled whatever likefor nintendo or whatever.
And then charles matinee is nowthat he's the ambassador, so
now he's, he's able to get paid,like he I think he signed over
his royalties, kind of like whatyou're saying but Nintendo is

(38:32):
still taking care of him.
He's still going to conventionsand hosting them and
representing Nintendo andthey're still doing interviews
with him and everything else andthey're still including him in
Nintendo Switch's promos and allthis other stuff.
So it's like, right, cool, Imean I'm no longer like the
voice of mario, but I am stillthe voice of mario, but I.

(38:55):
But then it's like I don't losemy job and like my family and
me are still taken care of atthat point, right, whereas
that's good for him again aftertoy story 5.
I don't know how they're goingto do it with the mr and mrs
potato head thing, if they'regoing to still honor that
royalty to the family or ifthat's just all disney now,
because disney's a monopoly atthis point they're trying to buy

(39:15):
everything.

Speaker 3 (39:16):
No, they can't just steal that from other people.

Speaker 2 (39:19):
They have been that money amount they have been put
like on a thing from, I think,the government like, at least
here in america as far as I know, with like that's true if you
have a contract with them andit's like they're paying you
anyways.
I don't know, but after you'redead though well, I mean, I feel
like anybody who is at least aclose relative, so like if

(39:40):
morgan freeman passes away likehis I'm close relative what's
the?

Speaker 1 (39:44):
what's the?

Speaker 2 (39:45):
government doing with disney?
Well, no, so like, disney wastrying to buy like everything,
and the us was like no, becausethat's considered a monopoly,
and so they're.
They're basically limited, likeI think they could only have
bought at the time when this wasannounced this again with years
ago, when this announcementcame out on the news that they
were only allowed to buy likeone more thing, and otherwise

(40:06):
they had to get rid of otherassets in order to basically buy
more, I guess.
So they had to lose one to gainone, and right now, disney's
partnered with fortnight.
So we're getting like disneyvillains, we're getting cars,
crossovers and all this othercrap, and it's just like, so
disney fortnight terrible,terrible game.

Speaker 3 (40:27):
I've never played it fortnight's great.

Speaker 2 (40:29):
He's the one who introduced me to.

Speaker 3 (40:30):
Yeah, it's not even good did you play before there
were seasons?
Because that's when I played.
It was still in the beta, likethey didn't have seasons at all
somebody was trying to convinceme that there was no c or there
was always seasons, I was likeno, there's a time before see.

Speaker 2 (40:44):
No, there was a time where yeah, it was like before
the whole seasons and everythinglike that.
I joined it like the end ofseason four yeah, and then I did
.

Speaker 1 (40:52):
You got so late to the game dude I mean, do you
think the seasons ruined thegame?

Speaker 2 (40:57):
I think.
Here's the thing.
I think fortnite, in a way,yeah, was a good and bad thing,
because now most gamingcompanies like call of duty now
and overwatch and, uh, a coupleother- games.

Speaker 3 (41:09):
Yeah, they stole the idea.

Speaker 2 (41:10):
They've done the battle pass system with micro
transactions fortnite was likethe first one to, like, I
believe, do that thing.
And then every company wastailing because, for uh,
overwatch had loot boxes.
I heard that yeah, uh,overwatch had loot boxes which
you would pay like five, eightdollars, and it was like you get
a box, it spawns in, you holdthe X button and it's like

(41:33):
random.

Speaker 3 (41:34):
Battlefield had that back in the day yeah, I know you
know, I remember playingBattlefield 1 and they had, like
, you know where you can buybetter boxes, and that's how
they made some money yeah, yeah,but it was just like skins and
stuff, right?

Speaker 1 (41:53):
no yeah it was skins for the gun.

Speaker 3 (41:55):
It was random too.
Yeah, it was random.

Speaker 2 (41:57):
So, and then with, but you still bought them yeah,
and with fortnight you get anitem shop and then you get like
your battle pass, which haswhatever.
Now they make you um, in orderto like.
Beforehand, I think withfortnite they had like the free
version and then they had thelike.
If you bought the battle pass,you got.
Wow, I don't know why I startedthere.

(42:17):
They bought the free version andthen there was if you bought
the battle pass yeah so if youdidn't want to buy the battle
pass, you could get a couplefree things out of each yeah, it
was like 35.
Yeah, you got for free and nowit's like you either play the
game for free and you don't getthe battle pass, or anything
like that oh really, yeah, theymade it worse, yeah than it was

(42:38):
you.
You pretty much have to buy thebattle pass now if you want
anything, so yeah but I meanit's pay to win, you know the
one thing that is nice, though,is that it's like $10 a month
and you get so now, because howbig Fortnite's gotten?
you have the battle, the regularBattle Royale, so you have that
battle pass.
You have a bonus page pass.

(43:00):
You have an extras pass, youhave the music pass.
You have Lego Fortnite pass,you have the music pass.
That's just way too many, dude.
How many?

Speaker 3 (43:10):
times too many I just , are they all like 10 bucks?

Speaker 2 (43:13):
no, no no, the whole, that all six passes, are ten
dollars.

Speaker 3 (43:16):
So you get like a bunch of crap see, I, I thought
it was all.
Yeah, I know ten dollars.
No, I was like I remember theydid do that once.
Yeah, they did do that for once.

Speaker 2 (43:25):
Yeah, they did do that before.
So like when Fortniteintroduced like the whole the
music, the Lego, the OG orwhatever pass, and then Battle
Royale, all those didindividually cost ten dollars.

Speaker 3 (43:38):
And I realize you got screwed.

Speaker 2 (43:41):
Yeah, well, no, because the eleven dollars
normally when you're in Fortnitecrew only gets you the regular
battle pass.
So after that that, if youchose to buy the other passes,
then that's additional money.
But then it's like also, thentoo, you go to the item shop,
you get your skins, emotes,whatever you want.
Right now they were like well,people aren't buying these music

(44:01):
passes, they're not buying legofortnight, that's because they
went over the deep end on ityeah.
And so they're like, well, nowif pay $10, you're getting all
the battle passes in one bundlefor $10.
And it's like, okay, that'sbetter.

Speaker 3 (44:13):
Now people will be able to buy that.
This is what I did.
Okay, shut up, thanks.
I bought, I think, season two.
Okay, and you get V-Bucksthrough the whole thing, so I'd
save all of them, I'm going toget a glass of water.
And then those V-Bucks, becausethey're called V-Bucks whatever
it's the currency.
Yeah, I would buy the nextBattle Pass and I would just

(44:34):
keep on doing that.
Yeah, Instead of buyinganything with the V-Bucks, I
would just be like, no, I'm justgoing to buy it once and I got
I don't know three or fourseasons worth and Call of Duty
does that.

Speaker 2 (44:47):
Yeah, call of Duty does that now too, but I think
they don't give you enough whatthey call COD points.
So you basically I think it'slike 100 points short, it's so
late.
Yeah, it's do, call of.

Speaker 1 (44:58):
Duty.
We get screwed over.
They started doing that onFortnite too.

Speaker 2 (45:02):
Yeah, like you don't get as many V-Bucks to get the
Battle Pass anymore.

Speaker 1 (45:05):
You'd be like 100 shorts so you could buy, like
the next Battle Pass after that,but you'd always be like 100
shorts, you couldn't buy everysingle one.

Speaker 3 (45:12):
Yeah, where it used to.
You'd actually have extra likealmost like 300 or 400 extra if
you did everything.

Speaker 2 (45:18):
Yeah, and they probably realized that people
were like, oh no, they're justusing the in-game currency for
it.
So now we got at the same time.
Some so many people spent somuch money on that game.

Speaker 3 (45:34):
I spent a thousand dollars on it I'm not even gonna
lie.

Speaker 2 (45:37):
I probably have spent at least a thousand dollars on
fortnite since like playing wow,since playing like what when
did me?
And you start because it waspre-COVID.
Like what when?

Speaker 1 (45:48):
did Fortnite come out ?
I don't remember 2017.
So I feel like it had to havebeen maybe because you started.

Speaker 2 (45:53):
obviously you're an OG and you're an OG.

Speaker 3 (45:56):
I'm an OG Dude if I went on it with my old like
skins that would be so funny.

Speaker 2 (46:02):
Dude, it's weird.
I mean they've updated thegraphics and everything.
And now it's weird.
I mean they've updated thegraphics and everything, and now
you can swim and there'svehicles that you can drive.

Speaker 1 (46:15):
Yeah, all this then there's a recent update.
You turn into godzilla andstorm and crush buildings and
stuff.

Speaker 2 (46:17):
It's crazy.
Wow, that sounds fun.
We went from playing crashesand government conspiracy to
fortnight dude, I thinkfortnight is, I think fortnight
is the reason why the planecrashes, probably.

Speaker 1 (46:26):
yeah, I, yeah, I think they're behind it.

Speaker 3 (46:28):
I mean they have a battle bus.

Speaker 1 (46:29):
so yeah, yeah what.

Speaker 2 (46:32):
You just look at some of the footage of like some
random stuff that the governmentis like not the plane crashes,
but you just see somethingflying overhead the White House
and it's like a battle bus andyou hear.
You just see somebody drop fromit with the balloon yeah, with
a balloon trying to glide in,that's not gonna happen.

Speaker 1 (46:49):
No, obviously gosh.
How about the tiktok bandthough?
Oh yeah you were a really bigfan of the tiktok band, I know
yeah, I was so like you wantedit no, no, no here's the thing.
This is I want to know both ofyour guys's opinions.

Speaker 2 (47:04):
I'll explain yeah, I'll explain my perspective of
it.
So obviously you guys know meI'm.
I get all my stuff from tiktoknews, whatever, just funny crap.
And how I looked at it at first, uh was it's a fun app.
But then later on, when stuffwas happening in the world, it

(47:24):
was like you wouldn't even findthis out on fox news you
wouldn't look, you couldn't goto cnn news and find like oh,
biden just pardoned 8 000 peoplefor whatever reason or whatever
.
He pardoned his son for onlineporn or whatever, and just as an
example or whatever.

Speaker 1 (47:41):
Just that's not what it was, though was it?

Speaker 2 (47:43):
no, it wasn't like that.
I don't know.
He did something or saying itwas good news well, yeah, it was
actually like true news is whatit was, like I would say that
you could find stuff out, but itwas never really in depth and
some of it was uh blown, blownout of proportion, so you'd have
to like you'd find somethingout on it, but you'd want to

(48:05):
like actually research more intoit.

Speaker 3 (48:07):
Yeah, but it's like how many people do that?

Speaker 2 (48:10):
Not a lot, no, not a lot.
But later on, though, I starteddoing that because I was like,
ok, this is weird, why is allthis happening?
But again, you're not going tofind that on Fox or CNN or ABC
News, because they are onlyallowed to show and share so
much.
They are only allowed to showand share so much.

(48:30):
Like, yeah, they could talkabout, oh, biden recently go
into court for a scandal, butthey're not going to go into,
like, why is there a scandal?
But then, on tiktok, then it'slike oh, it's actually biden's
son and it's because of this,this, this, this and this, and
it's that and the third right.
So they were more in depth andso I was like, okay, this is
weird, but I'm like intriguednow to learn more about it.
And then when they announcedthat because here's the other

(48:52):
thing too, so people are likeblaming trump on all of this
tiktok crap, right, originally,yeah, he did want it banned, but
it was at that point because ofhow new the app was.
It was getting leakedinformation out.
It was a national security.
It was proven that it was anational security thing to get

(49:15):
TikTok banned, so that's why hewas against it.
And then obviously, throughoutthe years, you know, I'm sure
it's obviously cleaned up itsact now at this point with, like
cybersecurity and whatever youknow, because every day
technology's updating, and sothen when biden took over,
everything was fine.
But then now there's this banand well, it was a ban well,

(49:36):
yeah, it was a ban.
It lasted less than 24 hours.
It was actually, I think it waslike 13 or 14 hours.
It like just went downcompletely so why did it go down
?
so it went well.
It was just because of thewhole thing.
They were like it's a nationalsecurity, it's leaking
information to china, china'sthe bad guy, or whatever, but
really it's like no, it's justbecause the truth is getting

(49:57):
leaked out right now.
At this point, like I I'm noteven joking like I saved over
probably 60 videos that nightwhen tiktok was getting banned,
because everything about thegovernment was being released on
tiktok and that's how scarythat is is like, yeah, people
can do that.
Like they're just like, okay,we're just going to do anything

(50:18):
and everything that we want.
If it's going to be banned andgone from the us permanently,
we're just going to leakeverything that I've been hiding
for years, or whatever and theywere like oh, that's not that
bad.
Well, they were, they were theyactually don't know that much.
They were leaking stuff aboutBiden.
They were leaking stuff aboutthe past, like president
presidencies, like with Nixonand JFK and everything like that

(50:39):
.
It was insane.
And then they were showingstuff that Biden was doing
inside office of what he wasapproving and like same thing
with Harris and everything likethat.
That I'm like holy crap, whatis happening?
right now and then after 14hours, because biden said
because it was the day beforeand that's the funny part is, it
was the day before trump'sinauguration.

(50:59):
Yeah, that tiktok went down andthen, as soon as trump came
into office, it right back itcame right because of trump I?
I think so, because he even saidin a news conference um, that
again was on tiktok, he goes.
I got to use it and I see howmuch it's worth because, again,
how he ran america back when hewas first in president, he ran

(51:22):
it like a business.
Right it was.
We had a lot, we had a, we hada lot going on with us.
Gas prices were going down,like groceries were down, people
could afford renting andhousing, and then, as soon as
Biden took over, everythingskyrocketed.
And it was the funniest thingtoo.
It's a meme now, but they weretalking about like how, now that
Trump's in office, they're likewell, trump's in office, and

(51:44):
it's been a day, why are my eggsstill four dollars a carton?
Like, well, trump's in officeand it's been a day, why are my
eggs still $4 a carton?

Speaker 1 (52:02):
no-transcript.

Speaker 2 (52:05):
And they also found out too, that the Biden
administration was killingchicken farms and stuff like
that like the chickens andchicken farms and then that
created a shortage for the eggs,and that would be the reason
why eggs would skyrocket inprice.

Speaker 3 (52:20):
We've got to solve this mystery.
It's not a solving mystery.

Speaker 2 (52:24):
It's already been solved.
It's been proven throughreports and everything like that
.

Speaker 3 (52:28):
They leaked a bunch of crap.
Dude, we all have to getchickens now.

Speaker 2 (52:31):
I mean you can't I mean chickens repopulate like
rabbits, like they justliterally just spawn out of
nowhere.

Speaker 3 (52:38):
I think we should just start one in your bedroom
over there, like a chicken coop.

Speaker 1 (52:42):
Yeah, a chicken coop.
Yeah, that would be so bad.
It smells so bad.

Speaker 2 (52:50):
I'm sure it would be really good for the chickens to
not ever be outside, never seedaylight all this crap's been
proven, though, and, aside frombeing on tiktok, proven like,
it's been proven through likesources and stuff that people
have linked through theirinstagrams from tiktok or
whatever they're doing likethey've leaked this stuff and
it's been proven and it's likeright there, like I could look

(53:11):
at it right now if I wanted to.
And right now Trump again.
He's already released the MLKfiles, and Martin Luther King
was pretty much like P Diddy.
It was disgusting.

Speaker 3 (53:23):
Oh yeah, he was a terrible person.
Yeah, he was a terrible personActually, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (53:32):
He was going to orgies and all he was a reverend
.
Yeah, he was.

Speaker 2 (53:33):
That's what they all say.
Yeah, I know it's.
It's kind of a joke that I'msaying yeah, but no, like mlk he
was, he was a literal pervert.

Speaker 3 (53:37):
He was going to orgies and all this other crap
and yeah, like, but he had agreat speech, so, oh yeah, let
it pass.

Speaker 1 (53:44):
Oh yeah yeah and I did not know, that about him?

Speaker 2 (53:47):
Yeah, no, they leaked all that information, and
apparently, too, it wasn't eventhe guy that or no?
I'm thinking of the JFK file.
They proved that JFK was notassassinated I think it wasn't
by Lee Oswald.

Speaker 1 (54:02):
So he's still alive.

Speaker 2 (54:03):
You're saying no, not JFK.
No, Lee Oswald was murdered byanother guy.
Yeah, and so JFK is not alive.
He's very much dead.
But it was proven that there'scover-up to that when they link
the files Surprising.

(54:24):
Yeah, and I'm pretty sure again, I don't I haven't read them
yet, but I'm pretty sure whateverybody's saying again on
tiktok is that it was obviouslya government cover-up.

Speaker 3 (54:35):
They purposely the uh dude, that was the guy that was
crazy.

Speaker 1 (54:38):
I mean, I wouldn't ever happen it was the guy that
just happened this summer that'swhat it was.

Speaker 2 (54:44):
It was the guy that was running uh against jfk had
him assassinated because he waslike a running uh presidential
campaigner or whatever becausehe didn't like him.

Speaker 3 (54:57):
Because he didn't like him, wow yeah that's why
anytime anybody's like dude.

Speaker 1 (55:01):
I can't believe what happens in russia with vladimir
putin.
His opponents just mysteriouslydisappear.

Speaker 3 (55:05):
It's like that happens here that right happens
in a lot in new mexico too yeah,it has like 40 people that were
running for president oh yeah,new mexico, you mean mexico?
Max.
Yeah, sorry, not even to mexico.

Speaker 1 (55:20):
I was like the state like what's going on there?

Speaker 2 (55:22):
even in korea with kim jong-un.
I'm sure like he's got peoplelike already.
If somebody wants to go against, well yeah that one is.

Speaker 1 (55:29):
I'm just saying people say that about other
countries.

Speaker 2 (55:31):
It's like it happens here too yeah quite frequently,
we're just cooler and then theyalso released what happened to
with the drones.
There was something in jerseywhere um it was, uh, fema is
what it was, so the drones thatwere flying around in jersey and
stuff that was fema trump'strying to shut down what is fema
?
Fema is like um I don't, Iagain I don't know, federal,

(55:53):
something medical.

Speaker 3 (55:54):
Yeah, they're like like there's a yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah, you're right yeah I knowthat it's just I don't know
exactly what they do.

Speaker 2 (56:02):
But I know it's not good and trump knows they're not
good either.
He's trying to shut him downright now, completely so well he
, he's cutting a lot and he'sdoing a lot in like the what
he's been president now forthree weeks well, probably like
because he got inaugurated onthe 20th yeah, well, didn't he

(56:22):
have like elon, isn't he did?
But then elon messed up.
Oh what he did the whole, he'salready out.
He did the whole nazi salute.

Speaker 1 (56:32):
He did it on live television, oh yeah, I don't
think it was actually with anazi salute did it was.
It looked a little sketch itdid look a little sketch, I'll
agree, but if people knew, I'mnot gonna do it because I know
like as soon as I do it oncamera.
But, actually I don't have toshow it, so this is the correct
one when it's straightforward.
And then this is what Elon did.

Speaker 3 (56:54):
Yeah, he did Dude, he was waving at somebody out in
the crowd.
You know what's up, guys.

Speaker 2 (57:01):
The one thing I will say about that too is that when
Elon did that whole salute thing, is that they forget that they
also posted pictures too, ofDemocratic people doing the same
exact thing.
So how can you point at Elonfor doing the Nazi salute when
there's plenty of other peoplethat have done it, but nobody

(57:21):
points it out?

Speaker 1 (57:22):
People keep asking that question.
There's no doubt there's doublestandards.
I stopped asking a long timeago.

Speaker 2 (57:26):
Oh yeah, no, there is double standards, there's
triple standards.
I stopped asking a long time.
Oh yeah, no, there is doublethere's triple standards um.

Speaker 1 (57:31):
What I want to know is if because I also I haven't
been paying any news I have noidea about the jfk files?
Yes, thank you, but I take abow, I.
So I don't know anything aboutthe jfk files, but my question
would be why would they keepthose files anywhere?
You think they would just trytheir best to completely delete

(57:52):
them?

Speaker 2 (57:52):
yeah, like set them on fire, like how you see in
cartoons, like we gotta burn theevidence and yeah, or something
.

Speaker 1 (57:58):
It seems weird that it's like there was this big
conspiracy to kill him, if it'strue, by his opponent, and then
they're just like okay, we didit.
Now let's just like stash thesefiles so someone can find them
later it's also not in thetechnology age that that
happened.

Speaker 3 (58:14):
Well, so like it'd be easier to burn is what I mean.
Like to get rid of yeah, ohyeah, way easier.

Speaker 2 (58:20):
Because I mean, yeah, they had computers, because you
know whatnot, but at the sametime they weren't as advanced as
, like, the right there.

Speaker 1 (58:27):
Did they have computers then?

Speaker 2 (58:28):
They were very old, like green.

Speaker 3 (58:31):
I thought it was in 91 that we got computers.

Speaker 2 (58:34):
No, I mean no, I'm talking like no, we've had
computers for a minute.

Speaker 3 (58:39):
Maybe like a bit, oh, not like a computer.

Speaker 1 (58:41):
I'm thinking, yeah, it's not like this, but they'd
have a huge thing on the wall.

Speaker 2 (58:48):
Yeah, like a DSL or whatever they call it.
It was a big mother computerthing.

Speaker 3 (58:50):
Actually, isn't that how they won World War II Was
doing that.

Speaker 2 (58:55):
Computers.
No, I don't think they hadstuff like that.

Speaker 3 (58:57):
I thought they had the Morse code.
They had to figure out theMorse code.

Speaker 2 (59:01):
They had radio and stuff.
They had radios, are you?

Speaker 1 (59:04):
talking about the Imitation Game movie stuff they
had radios.
I was talking about like theimitation game movie, yeah, yeah
, where they have to figure itout like yeah, I don't know if
that was a computer they hadlike things, but it's like
considered the first computer ohyeah, I'm figuring stuff out,
but anyways yeah, I thinkcomputers were definitely around
, maybe around the 60s I thinkcomputers are from the devil,

(59:29):
just kidding

Speaker 2 (59:31):
now they?
They had a lot of technologicalit not like again compared to
like how we do of technologicaladvances, but they had enough to
where they could like.
What you said is they couldjust burn it, no problem and get
rid of it completely, but I'msure in some cases they would
still have backups of like ohyeah, we're burning it and
making sure there's no evidence.

(59:51):
But it's like how coca-colathere's only two people in the
entire world that know theactual recipe and hold the
recipe for coca-cola and theyhave to uh, they can't meet
together, nobody knows theirnames and they um have to fly in
separate private jets with,like, really like, tight

(01:00:14):
security so glad we do that forthe coke recipe I mean when my
dad no right crazy so when mydad worked at meyer, he would
have to get into a lockbox andthere's three people that had to
be present when they did that,because I think he knew like two
of the numbers of the code.

Speaker 3 (01:00:31):
Somebody else had two numbers and then the third guy
had a key to actually open thedoor.
Yeah, so it's like yeah thatkind of makes sense.

Speaker 1 (01:00:39):
The coca-cola thing yeah, but killing a president
versus a coca-cola recipe is alittle different.
I'm just so like I don't knowwhy they would keep the evidence
maybe because they thought atsome point like.

Speaker 2 (01:00:53):
The people need to know like part of the whole,
like first amendment, you knowbecause jfk knew the, the recipe
for coca-cola, and I'm justkidding it was the other one.

Speaker 1 (01:01:04):
He was the third guy that knew yeah, yeah, but they
wouldn't want us to know theactual truth.

Speaker 2 (01:01:11):
No, but they always they even too on the news.
They've already announced likewhat?
Three or four times that aliensexist.
And there's one under the waternamed Carl and he gets our
humor and he loves us, but hedoesn't want to make his
appearance known Like I'm noteven joking on that one.

Speaker 3 (01:01:31):
It was actually like on a new segment, like yeah, I
still think that aliens aredemons.

Speaker 1 (01:01:33):
They are there.
It's a hundred percent demon.
I don't think I'm confused.
What we're talking about?
Well, like just lost.
I just got lost.
Aliens, do you know?
Do you know what aliens have?

Speaker 3 (01:01:38):
you heard of you don't know what aliens are no,
don't know okay so yeah, yeah,but what about aliens, so well
like on the news?

Speaker 1 (01:01:47):
he's saying that the news is coming out and saying
the truth and I'm saying whywould the american government
ever want us to know the truthabout jfk?
You think they try their bestforever to cover that up like
the government likes to hide abunch of crap.

Speaker 3 (01:02:02):
Well yeah, the news is supposed to be like an
independent thing, that like anindependent business that
investigates the government,like it keeps the government in
check.
That's what it's supposed to be, but it doesn't do that anymore
.

Speaker 1 (01:02:16):
But if you have something big, they're both.
Yeah, they're both.

Speaker 3 (01:02:18):
They're both together now.

Speaker 2 (01:02:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:02:20):
Which isn't good.

Speaker 2 (01:02:21):
No, because they could be hiding a lot Like.
I still believe that there's aconspiracy theory about the
Titan submarine Because if youalready knew it, now we're going
in the towel.

Speaker 3 (01:02:29):
Where are?

Speaker 1 (01:02:29):
we going.

Speaker 2 (01:02:33):
This is all conspiracy stuff.
That's like finding out,because Trump again, he's
literally not.
He's done more in his shortterm right now a presidency
compared to Biden in his fouryears.
He's releasing everything aboutthe government.
But let's go back to RFKk jfkjfk, not rfk.

Speaker 1 (01:02:51):
Yeah, we're rfk's in the.
We don't need it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:53):
We do not need to go down the tight end no, no, no,
I'm just, that's the only thingI'm bringing up is like the fact
that they knew it exploded theday that it happened and then
they made on this massive searchabout, oh we, they might have
96 hours of oxygen left and allthis other stuff, but yet they
knew it exploded underwater.

(01:03:13):
So, oh, you're saying like thenews.
Just right, the news was likethere's something covering it up
, like at this point, same thingwith the, the helicopter that
happened to where it crashed in,the you know passenger plane.
There's a cover-up.
Something was either carried onthat plane that wasn't supposed
to, or something was on thathelicopter that wasn't supposed
to, or there was a certainperson on there that wasn't

(01:03:36):
supposed to be here or somethingentirely different happened and
they're just using the storyright to distract everybody from
something else that's going onright and that's, that's how the
government works and like whatyou're saying is like the two
networks are like tied in now.
So you have the government, thenews network and they're
covering up stuff togetherbecause the government obviously
doesn't want everything likethat's happened since rfk

(01:03:59):
there's been a lot of stuff,since you mean jfk, jfk.

Speaker 3 (01:04:03):
Sorry I keep saying the wrong name.

Speaker 2 (01:04:05):
dude, he's thinking of Robert F Kennedy.
Yeah, the guy that's.

Speaker 3 (01:04:10):
Yeah, seizure boy, he can't talk.

Speaker 2 (01:04:14):
I don't know how I feel about him either, if you
listen to his voice for morethan 10 minutes.

Speaker 3 (01:04:18):
you kind of get used to it, yeah, but it really
sounds like he's seizuring.

Speaker 2 (01:04:22):
It's like Bernie Sanders, almost where he's
sitting there with his glovesand stuff like that.
Bernie sanders, like almostwhere he's just like he's
sitting there with his glovesand stuff like that.
He's like an old man fartingaround and then you get, even
though he's a really smart guy.

Speaker 3 (01:04:32):
Yeah, yeah, he's a smart guy.

Speaker 1 (01:04:34):
I think he's a lot more well spoken than rfk, oh
yeah well, anybody's more wellspoken than him.

Speaker 2 (01:04:39):
And even biden biden was like american can be defined
in one simple word have youever seen that?
Clip.
Yeah, yeah, it's like crazy.
I'm like how did you guys votefor him to be president at this
point?
You know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (01:04:55):
I mean well, the first, when he first got it,
yeah, it wasn't that bad in 2020but I feel like a lot of 2020
man I mean, that's classic notin 2020, but, like it was
clearly evident, like thingswere going downhill from there.

Speaker 1 (01:05:11):
Yeah, but you also don't know how bad it's going to
get.

Speaker 2 (01:05:13):
No, but I know right now, with Trump being in office
for less than a month, likethings have gotten already
better.
Well, I'm to a degree.

Speaker 1 (01:05:22):
I'm not going to all the way but I'm not going to sit
here and celebrate too soon.
I'm going to wait a little bit.
I'm still finding out, becauseeveryone's like, oh, look at all
this great stuff that'shappening.
It's like it can't be too goodto be true.
Something is, something's up.
Yeah, something's up,something's gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (01:05:39):
That's what I feel the only thing that I find right
now a little bit sketch um, nowthat you mentioned that is
again going back to thehelicopter and stuff like that
is like trump's not even saying,like, what exactly happened yet
that's because he doesn't know.
Well, I mean, as president,you're supposed to know
literally everything.
You're supposed to know if,like, mars is going to crash
into earth by tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (01:05:58):
But they have to investigate it for him to get.
Yeah, they still have toinvestigate it it happened two
days ago, I mean was it two daysago.

Speaker 2 (01:06:05):
I feel like maybe a little bit longer.
Maybe it's three now okay if itwas that soon.
I thought it was like maybe aweek or so ago.

Speaker 3 (01:06:12):
I'm like there ain't no way.
It was like three days ago andI was watching the news.
I was like, oh shoot, maybefour if you count, because it
was at nine o'clock at night,true?

Speaker 2 (01:06:22):
so okay that I just heard about it, like I think,
yesterday and today, but yeah,I'm like I'm still hoping that
like stuff will be revealed,because at this point, if he's
already releasing the mlk andthe jfk files and like the, the
drones and what they wereactually doing and stuff like
this guy's on a roll alreadyhe's exposing the government for

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what they really were.
So I'm okay with.

Speaker 3 (01:06:45):
I'm okay with that because wait, the government
does bad things.
I crazy surprising like that'sthe thing about jf.

Speaker 2 (01:06:53):
They're not good they invented the dmv.
You know how long it takes forme to get my driver's license.

Speaker 1 (01:06:58):
You know way too long .
Yeah, we all know the dmv it'sridiculous, don't you mean rfk?

Speaker 2 (01:07:05):
yeah, don't you mean RFK.
Thanks guys, thanks.

Speaker 3 (01:07:09):
But JFK it's like oh, you guys told us exactly what
we thought all along.

Speaker 2 (01:07:14):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:07:17):
So I mean it's not like too much news.
That is something also thatseems a little too good to be
true.

Speaker 3 (01:07:20):
What.

Speaker 2 (01:07:21):
It's a government cover-up and it was really the
government that assassinated JFKDo you think it's too good to
be true?

Speaker 3 (01:07:29):
Why?
I think it's too good to betrue that we're finding out
about it.
Oh yeah, but it's been so long.

Speaker 1 (01:07:36):
Yeah, I know, but I just think it's dumb.
I just can't get over the factthat they would keep the files.
I would think that they wouldget rid of them If I kill
somebody.
I'm not just going to leavetheir phone around so people can
see the text messages of ustrying to meet up.

Speaker 3 (01:07:55):
This is a terrible example, but I'm just saying, I
see what you're saying, I wouldtake the phone and just get rid
of it.

Speaker 1 (01:08:02):
Put it in a fire, have it blow up or something.
Get rid of all the evidence.

Speaker 3 (01:08:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:08:06):
But this is like, let's just keep.

Speaker 3 (01:08:08):
Maybe they tried that but there's just too many
people that knew yeah, it couldbe that and it's like are you
what?

Speaker 2 (01:08:13):
you're just gonna go on a mass genocide, like hitler
did with the jews, and just likekill everybody?

Speaker 3 (01:08:18):
no, actually a lot of the people that were present
and at jfk's assassination.

Speaker 1 (01:08:23):
Assassination, like assassinate, assassination, uh,
like ended up dead within like20 years or so 25 years, and
then even to like, I think they,I don't know 25 years it's
definitely 25 years, that's notthat's not that, yeah, but if
you were 19, I suppose, but it'sjust like 25 years, it'd be one

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thing if it was like within sixmonths, all these people died.

Speaker 3 (01:08:50):
Actually I don't know what the timeline was.

Speaker 2 (01:08:51):
I forgot what the timeline was, but very quickly,
yeah, because if you are justkilling people within that six
months of some kind of nationaltragedy, that's a little bit
sketch right there.
You know what I?

Speaker 3 (01:09:05):
mean, maybe it was like 10 years.

Speaker 2 (01:09:07):
I could see if it was like 10 years, I could see If
it was in, like in a time periodLike, let's say, there's like
60 people and you did somethinglike that for like 10 years and
you knew something about thegovernment that the government
didn't want you to know about.
Like, yeah, okay, cool.
So like there's a couple randomdeaths you know this year.

Speaker 3 (01:09:22):
Okay, so a lot of them were strange deaths, yeah.
So, that gives pause.

Speaker 2 (01:09:29):
Well, even too, like you guys know, about the guy
with the water car.
Yeah, how he died.
Yeah, there was a guy thatinvented a car that ran purely
on water and it could get fromNew York to California and, I
think, back on one tank of water.
So imagine if we had cars likethat.
You wouldn't need gas, youcould just use water.
And then it turns into, youknow, it goes through the

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evaporation process.

Speaker 3 (01:09:51):
And then the water just disappears.
So then we run out of water.
I'm just kidding.

Speaker 1 (01:09:55):
Yeah, that's what I was thinking.
That would be crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:09:57):
No, it goes into the sky and then it just rains down,
so it's continuously cyclingthrough.
We're making more clouds wow, Iwonder if that would cause more
rain.
I mean, probably rain more, butlike at the same time though
it's like you're still usingyour car for, but at the same
time.

Speaker 3 (01:10:12):
You'd never see the sun if it rained all the time
yeah, but you want to live inseattle everywhere it would be
natural, though, because itwouldn't be fumes which already
black out the sun.

Speaker 2 (01:10:24):
And we already have like a hole in the ozone layer
too.

Speaker 1 (01:10:26):
So like uh you're talking about.

Speaker 3 (01:10:29):
Like uh if it was gas cars greenhouse effect.
Yeah Well just smog in therefrom gas cars.

Speaker 2 (01:10:38):
But this guy, he, I guess there was warming.
I forget what company it was,but then it was also tied in
with the government, where theywere, um, trying to get this guy
to sell them the idea for thecar to keep or something like
that, or keep his mouth shut.
They were going to pay himbillions of dollars and he's
like no, I want to show peoplethis.
So he went on the news with itand then someone from the

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government found him.
They sat him down with coffeeor something like that at a
diner, threatened him.

Speaker 1 (01:11:07):
They didn't think here, I brought this special
sweetener for your coffee.

Speaker 2 (01:11:11):
Yeah, no, literally like it was something stupid
like that, and they put it inhis drink and then all of a
sudden, like he started, he wentoutside and he started choking.
He's like they poisoned me andthat was his last word, so it's
like hmm, okay, so somethingthat'll benefit the country and
then also benefit the earth fromusing natural resources.

Speaker 3 (01:11:28):
But it doesn't benefit the oil company.

Speaker 2 (01:11:34):
Exactly.
That's what it boils down to.

Speaker 3 (01:11:36):
You can't make money off of it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:37):
Yeah, because everything can't be free.

Speaker 3 (01:11:40):
So then it makes sense.

Speaker 2 (01:11:41):
Yep.
So there's a lot of stuff thatpeople have probably done too,
other than the water car, thathave like been more beneficial
for the people compared to likeeven some places are like
talking about like you know,like health care you know, and
other places like they have,where, like I think china right
now has it where you pay like 60bucks like for their currency.

(01:12:01):
It equals out to 60 us for theambulance and the hospital trip
and your prescription, not likeseparately, but together $60.

Speaker 3 (01:12:11):
That's pretty good.

Speaker 2 (01:12:12):
Right For me to get my fat butt in an ambulance.
It's $5,000 here in America, ormore.

Speaker 3 (01:12:20):
Sir, you need to talk better about yourself.
I'm just saying.

Speaker 2 (01:12:23):
Like it's $5,000 plus to get in an ambulance.
Then that's not even includingbecause you have to pay for all
the equipment that they use tosave your life or whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:12:32):
And subsidized uh, release of what, yeah, you're
paying for.

Speaker 2 (01:12:38):
Yeah, that's what you ask them and then on top of
that too, then your prescription, if you have that.
But there's a lot of peoplearguing that like, okay, if
you're gonna make us pay theseridiculous prices and let's just
say it's a life and deathsituation and you end up dying,
then the family or whoever else,the hospital takes one for the
team yeah but then again, ifthey did that, there wouldn't be

(01:12:59):
any money for that, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:13:01):
So what if it's a death and death?
What do?

Speaker 2 (01:13:03):
you mean a death and death like somebody just comes
in dead.

Speaker 3 (01:13:08):
They're gonna die anyways, they're just gonna let
them I mean, there have beenprobably cases like that yeah
like they're just gonna at thatpoint, yeah, it's like okay.

Speaker 2 (01:13:17):
Yeah, no, sorry the guy died, but I'm not gonna like
send the 10 twin like 10, 20000 bill over to his like cousin
and be like hey you have to paythis.

Speaker 3 (01:13:27):
You go to federal.
They still send the bill.

Speaker 2 (01:13:29):
They still want their money yeah, they do, and that's
the who does it go to like afamily member?
It literally yeah, whoever likea surviving family member
that's like close probably isthey all go to your mom's house
your mom opens up her mail.
Why do I have a bill for 35 000for kneecap surgery or
something like that?

(01:13:50):
It's like 35.

Speaker 3 (01:13:51):
That's it.
It's pretty cheap, this mangoes 35 000, that's a lot,
that's like kneecap surgery.

Speaker 2 (01:13:58):
I don't know but then you go even too, even if you
have a cold or something likethat, or you feel like you're
dying and they're like, oh, it'sjust a cold, they'll slap a
band-aid on you and then chargeyou like two thousand dollars
just to tell you that, like mydoctor's appointment for me
going in for food poisoningbecause I didn't know if it was
like from chicken or whateverelse that I had.
I didn't know if it wasactually food poisoning or not.

(01:14:18):
I felt like it was the paymentfor me to go into the doctor's
office because I was literallydying and had a fever and all
this other crap.
Like $150.

Speaker 3 (01:14:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:14:30):
And yeah, $150 doesn't sound like a lot, but at
the same time it's like for meto have a 20-minute conversation
was $150.
That's ridiculous.
Yeah, it's sad.
And again there's othercountries, like again China,
that, like you, pay $60.

Speaker 3 (01:14:46):
Yeah, it's highway larceny, but it obviously didn't
work.
The food poisoning.

Speaker 1 (01:14:53):
No, I'm just kidding.
Highway larceny, yeah, yeah.
Well, yeah, I've always heardhighway robbery.

Speaker 3 (01:15:01):
Robbery larceny.
It's probably the same thing, Ijust never heard somebody use
the other term.
Yeah, the whole medical placeis move to china yeah, just move
dude here's the thing.

Speaker 2 (01:15:14):
This is what people say.
They come, they're like well,if you hate it so much in
america and everything's wrongabout it, then why don't you
just move?
The thing is is that there'speople out there like me that we
should change the systems here.

Speaker 3 (01:15:27):
I would america.

Speaker 2 (01:15:28):
If I had to, I would fight for this country, and
that's why I like talk about,because, like amen, what a saint
over here because I think, likethis country, is worth fighting
for at that point.
I lived and breathed here and Iwas born and, obviously, raised
here.
So I believe that this land is.

(01:15:50):
We need to make it what it usedto be in the 1700s 1700s, we
threw tea into the ocean tofreaking.
Uh I I don't know why I'mstumbling on this.
Boston, boston, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:16:07):
Boston Tea Party.
Boston Tea Party, that's whatit's called.

Speaker 2 (01:16:10):
For a 2% tax Only two .
Yeah 2%, yeah, so, and now wehave everything skyrocketing.
So why isn't anybody doinganything about it, right?
So why?
Not make America what it usedto be, where everything's fair
and not obviously free.
Free, but you know what I meanthe land of the free, where we
can have our own freedoms,because they're trying to, and

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that's the whole thing becauseyou go to jail.

Speaker 3 (01:16:33):
That's why now, but I mean, yeah, you go to jail,
answer if you have freedom ofspeech, you go to jail.

Speaker 2 (01:16:39):
If you want second amendment rights, you go to jail
.
The thing is is that that'swhere I thought with the tiktok
ban, I'm like, okay, they'rebanning it, that's taking away a
form of freedom of speech.
And that's where, also, too, Ifeel like with the whole covet
thing, where they mandatedeveryone to stay inside, they're
testing stuff, because that'sexactly how martial law works.
You know, if trump were todeclare martial law, or even

(01:17:02):
biden, when he was in office,declare martial law, we would
have to be under mandation.
If they told us to stay inside,like they did in 2020, guess
what would happen?
We would have to stay inside.
There would be curfews, justlike there were during COVID.

Speaker 1 (01:17:21):
I blame it on low testosterone, that's true.

Speaker 2 (01:17:28):
There's not enough aggression in men to do anything
.
No, it's a rarity and a halfthat you will find anybody that
would be willing to like just goout there if they wanted to
actually defend this country atthis point.
Grant, we have troops.
I know I met on laziness.

Speaker 1 (01:17:36):
there's that too, because laziness yeah, yeah,
that's what I'm saying like oh,low testosterone is just like
laziness.
I mean, in our echo chambers wesee like guys going hard and
doing david goggins, but that'syour algorithm yeah but you also
have to remember that there is70 of america is overweight,
with 52 being morbidly obeseright.

Speaker 3 (01:17:58):
Yeah, but I wouldn't say that's necessarily a guy
problem.

Speaker 1 (01:18:00):
I think that's just in general a person problem in
general, yeah, but I'm justsaying like, in that group of
people there is plenty of guys,and guys are what, sorry to say
it lead the weak.
They lead the world whenthey're strong, yeah, and so I
think that I honestly think it'slike a spiritual thing so the
devil knows that weak mendestroy societies yeah and so

(01:18:23):
when you see strong men like's,why?
that's why people don't like JDVance and Trump, because when
somebody presses on themsomething, they don't back down
from their opinion, and themajority of people don't like
strong men like that, who don'tlike conform to their way, speak
their mind or anything.
Yeah, they just speak theirmind and then when the media or
whoever is interviewing themwants to, wants them to back

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down from that opinion, theydon't do it.
No.

Speaker 2 (01:18:49):
And so people hate that.

Speaker 3 (01:18:50):
Or they try to twist their words.
Yeah, that too.

Speaker 2 (01:18:54):
Yeah, because they've already tried to do that with
JD Vance a lot too.
Jd Vance, I think, is great andif he does run for president I
will be voting for him.
But that's the thing is like,if you look at like news outlets
and how when they interview him, he does not back down and he's
the same way as Trump.
He calls them idiots.
If they try to do a loopholeand try to like make him switch

(01:19:14):
up the wording to make it looklike he's saying something bad,
he literally instantly realizeswhat they're doing.
Same way with Trump and he goesI'm not going to answer that
stupid question.
Like you're an idiot.
And then Trump with the newsmedia, it's hilarious.
Like there's a news reportergirl that like stood up and she
was like trying to say, oh well,you're trying to blame the

(01:19:35):
Biden administration.
He goes yes, it was.
And for you asking a dumbquestion, sit down.
Like he does not care.
And that's the one thing isagain, it's like what you're
saying.
People don't like when theyhave to be.
Like it's like time to buck up,buddy, you're not a kid anymore
.
Yeah, you're right time to growup.
You're making excuses now atthis point as to why you can't.

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It's like people making excusesfor everything.
I will say, though, with thetiktok ban, ben and jerry's ice
cream came forward and theyactually started a march from
tikt, and there were thousandsof people.

Speaker 3 (01:20:11):
What do you mean?
A march, what do you mean?

Speaker 2 (01:20:13):
There was like a whole like not a riot, but like
a march that was going to theWhite House in DC.

Speaker 3 (01:20:19):
Saying we have to have TikTok.

Speaker 2 (01:20:21):
Yeah, like because businesses were literally like
most of their revenue and stufflike that also does come from
TikTok, because of how popularit was.

Speaker 3 (01:20:28):
I was going to say how does Ben Jerry's have to do?

Speaker 2 (01:20:31):
that.
Well, there's big-timecompanies that agree with what
Trump has to say and offer forthe company.
So Ben Jerry's is on that sideof the fence where they're like,
yeah, no, we agree with Trumpbecause you're taking away a
form of freedom of speech atthat point, if you get rid of
TikTok and it's again that'swhere it all comes into play is,
I feel, like, with thegovernment it's coming into?

(01:20:51):
There's the 2020 COVID mandate.
You have to stay inside curfewall this other crap.
You have to have special papersto be an essential worker right.

Speaker 3 (01:21:02):
And then you have the TikTok ban, which had freedom
of speech.

Speaker 2 (01:21:05):
People were allowed to post stuff about the
government.
People were allowed to poststuff about the government.
People were allowed to poststuff about, you know, trans
rights or whatever else theyhave going on.

Speaker 3 (01:21:12):
But then you have it yeah, I will fight for your
right to say whatever the heckyou want right and so.

Speaker 2 (01:21:18):
But they were again with the tiktok ban.
They were taking that away andI think at that moment people
were like, regardless if you'rebuddhist or if you're trans, if
you're gay, whatever, like we'recoming together and we're not
gonna let this crap happen.

Speaker 3 (01:21:32):
You just use a different media outlet.
They did, they were they wentall straight to red note and red
notes a chinese 100 owned appand it hey, let's just subsidize
this chinese or this other appfor another well, the government
is like well, china's so badand they're leaking all of our
information.

Speaker 2 (01:21:50):
Okay, cool, since you're going to take away our
stuff, that was like made here,we're just going to go to China
then, because you're not clearlydoing anything about it Go to
China.

Speaker 1 (01:22:00):
I feel like that's not the best idea.

Speaker 2 (01:22:02):
No, to go to China, and the app was called Bread no
and you had to agree to Chineselaw that you weren't allowed to
post about certain things orwhatever.
Talk bad about.

Speaker 3 (01:22:12):
They're like oh, my freedoms are taken away, but a
lot of people from.

Speaker 2 (01:22:16):
TikTok, though, fled to Redno, and the government
realized like oh, we made amistake banning TikTok.

Speaker 3 (01:22:31):
So they were, because at that point, yeah, you're
going to be leaking almosteverything and anything about
anybody at that point going to astraight 100 chinese app.

Speaker 2 (01:22:33):
If that's what they're, so why didn't they just
put better defenses against it?
Because that's my question.

Speaker 3 (01:22:35):
They don't want to.

Speaker 2 (01:22:35):
Yeah, this takes way too much time, way too much
right, but now it's like theyhave to, because now tiktok is
like the biggest platform everin the world well, the
conspiracy was that they wantedto get rid of tiktok, not only
because of china, china'schinese influence, but because
it was helping conservativetalking points yeah because,

(01:22:56):
trump, because trump did gain, Ithink, like five million
followers.

Speaker 1 (01:23:02):
I don't know how much , how long it took, but it was
quick, and then biden had wayless than that, and so they
could see that hip yeah probablypretty much, and so they could
see that the younger generationwas moving to the right, and it
was tiktok was helping with that, because facebook was pulling
their thing oh, yeah, also too.

Speaker 2 (01:23:23):
Like that was the other thing with facebook and
instagram anything owned by meta, with mark zberg that guy.
So it was funny because momentsbefore I'm not even joking
moments before TikTok was banned, facebook made a TikTok account
and so did Instagram AnythingMeta made a TikTok account.
So now there's a whole thingabout is TikTok really owned by

(01:23:46):
Meta or not, and the funny parthere's the funniest thing about
is TikTok really owned by Metaor not?
And the funny part here's thefunniest part about it right, so
I experimented the funny partso they said if you right now
because now I'm getting theactual news sources that I got
once before from TikTok fromblocking Facebook and Instagram
on TikTok their accountscompletely, from blocking
Facebook and Instagram on TikToktheir accounts completely, if

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you and people have shown this,if you don't block their
accounts or anything like that,you're not going to get the full
media source that you may havefollowed, like about exposing
the government or anything elsethat you may have gotten before.
The algorithm is like way worsecompared to blocking them.
So when I didn't block them,when I first found this out, I

(01:24:30):
was like, oh okay, so I'm notseeing anything about.
Like I was seeing a lot ofstuff about how, like Trump is
bad and he should, you know, dieand everything else like that.
And then there was like veryminimal news outlets about the
California fires.
Like there was hardly anything.
Like there'd be maybe onetiktok through like every
thousand ish scrolls, whateveryou want to say for the

(01:24:50):
mathematics, but when you blockthat account, then you're seeing
everything again.
So is tiktok really owned bymeta at this point or is it
owned by another you know person?
Because there was a lot ofpeople trying to buy tiktok.
Mr beast was trying to buy it.
Uh, I don't know the governmentwas trying to do something with

(01:25:10):
it.

Speaker 3 (01:25:11):
Mark zuckerberg was trying to elon musk was trying
to too and you know, you know, Idon't, I don't know, I don't
care, because I don't havetiktok there was at all, so like
there's a lot you said you weregonna ask me about tiktok.
No idea, dude, I just don'thave.
It so I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:25:27):
I don't really have it either.
I would only use it to postclips of the podcast, and then I
would delete the app because Ijust hate being on it.
I just it's easy to get stuckin the.

Speaker 2 (01:25:37):
It is the doom scrolling as it as it is like
don't, it is very addictive,don't get me wrong, but I look
at it is I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:25:44):
So is facebook and instagram, I mean reels are
pretty much the same.

Speaker 1 (01:25:47):
Yeah, it's the same thing.
There's no difference.

Speaker 2 (01:25:50):
No, it's just.
Again, it's a form of.
To me, after finding a bunch ofstuff out and actually really
digging into the research ofeverything that was coming out,
it's a form of freedom of speech.
Yeah, and if you take that awayfrom the people, what do you

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have left?

Speaker 3 (01:26:13):
you know they were already trying to take away the
second amendment, communism.
Yeah, exactly, you literallyhave a communist.
Obviously, if you can control apopulation, I mean that's kind
of what government is trying todo yeah, has been trying to do
not even I'm not even sayingdemocrats compared to
republicans.
I think republicans are doingthat too right, trying to Trying
to get more power.

Speaker 2 (01:26:26):
And Biden too.
Here's one thing.
So I own a gun and the thing isis when Biden was in office and
this was happening in February,I think of 2021 of when this
was happening is he was making alaw.
By February.
If you own a gun or you'retrying to buy a gun like a

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sidearm, like pistol, whatever,by that date, you would have to
pay for the, obviously, the gun,but you wouldn't be able to get
your gun to take a cpl class.
Now they're trying to do it towhere, if I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:26:58):
I don't think that's necessarily a bad idea, because
some people just don't know howto use a gun correctly, not, but
it's like also too.

Speaker 2 (01:27:05):
It's like okay, you, anybody could like right now if
I wanted, even though it'd belike a federal offense.
At this point I have open carry.
Do you think I'm gonna straddlemy pistol like out in the open?

Speaker 3 (01:27:16):
no, that's illegal, but there's people that's called
flashing right.

Speaker 1 (01:27:19):
Anyways, there's people if you have it in a
holster, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:27:22):
If you have it a holster, well yeah yeah, but I
mean like if you go to reach or,if you like, pull it out of the
holster, that's called flashing.

Speaker 2 (01:27:30):
Even if you don't point it at somebody, that's
still like okay like there's a,there's somebody I won't say
their name because they got introuble for this crap but there
was a guy that started analtercation at a liquor store
that was near the area where Ilived at and I knew somebody got
shot.
I knew the guy.
No, I knew the guy.
Somebody got shot.
I knew the guy.
No, I knew the guy.
And he came into the drugstore.

(01:27:50):
Another guy started analtercation with him.
The guy that started thealtercation flashed his gun,
lifted his shirt, and then theguy that I know did the same
thing.
He had like one of those strapswhere you could hold the pistol
on your chest or whatever, andhe flashes and he goes.
If you want to go, bro, we'llgo.
I got mine right now andultimately, like, I mean, I

(01:28:15):
still talk to him and whatnot,but it was still pretty bad
seeing that crap on CCTV camera.
And that's the whole thing is.
People illegally carry guns too, and I get where there's pros
and there's cons to that, butit's like you're trying to like
make more rules for carrying agun.
And the other thing is, too, isschool shootings.
There was just another onerecently where, like, I think,

(01:28:39):
six kids died and they're like,and then again the killer killed
himself because he didn't wantto have the repercussions or
anything of his actions.

Speaker 3 (01:28:48):
Oh yeah, I heard about this yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:28:50):
So it's like you're trying to minimize firearms
being legal at this point andtrying to make all these
loopholes in order to get ohwell, you can buy one, but you
have to be over 21.
Oh well, even if you're over 21, now you have to have a cpl.
Oh, and then you're also notallowed to do this.
You only can buy certainpistols, you can only buy this.

(01:29:10):
But now they're doing it towhere Trump right now is trying
to make it like ban this law orget rid of it, where Biden was
trying to make it, to, where, ifyou were under 21, you or it
was like you had to be well over21, like you had to be like in
your 30s or 40s, to buy a gun.

(01:29:30):
That's crazy yeah, and so it waslike no, we're not doing that
at all and so he's getting allthat taken care of.
But they're making it like toan extent again, this is with
the biden administration.
They were making it harder andharder and harder to have
freedom of speech unless youabided to.
You know that side of the fence, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:29:51):
Yeah, I mean otherwise, you're homophobic,
you're transphobic, you'rewhatever I mean, just look at
bigger cities like chicago anddetroit, where there is a gun
ban.
How many guns are?

Speaker 2 (01:30:02):
there, and how many chicago, how many?
Well, in new york too,apparently.

Speaker 3 (01:30:06):
Yeah, but it doesn't matter where it is right, like
I'm just saying that as anexample and put it in the whole
country, and then that's whatyou're going to get.

Speaker 1 (01:30:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:30:15):
There's still going to be criminals with guns.

Speaker 1 (01:30:17):
Yeah, so like you're just taking them out of the
ground and nobody's going tolisten.
No, I don't understand it.
They, they.

Speaker 3 (01:30:23):
they're never going to listen to you saying that, or
anybody but that's right and Imean, you know, if you close
your ears off?

Speaker 1 (01:30:33):
yeah, I'm not saying you, I'm just saying those
people, I know, I'm just sayingit's like, it's a great point,
but like they just start likewhatever and then they just,
they just don't care.

Speaker 3 (01:30:43):
It's just weird, because it's the same thing with
freedom of speech, though yeah,that you're bringing up is like
they're attacking that too yeah, attacking freedom of speech.

Speaker 2 (01:30:49):
The is like they're attacking that too, yeah,
attacking freedom of speech, theSecond Amendment.
They're going to keep goingafter stuff in the Constitution,
and even right now too, like Iknow this I don't know what kind
of touchy subject this might be, but you know like how, right
now, they're sending ICE agentsto find illegals.
Ice, what is ISIS?

Speaker 1 (01:31:06):
Y'all are so out of touch, ice agents.
Ice, yeah, ice, yeah, isis.
Y'all are so out of touch, iceagents.
I-c-e.

Speaker 2 (01:31:12):
Yeah, I-C-E.

Speaker 3 (01:31:12):
I am out of touch.

Speaker 2 (01:31:13):
You're right, okay, go ahead, and I mean that with
respect.

Speaker 1 (01:31:17):
I avoid the news and I still hear about this, so I
don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:31:20):
You must be living under a rock, and I mean it with
respect.
I'm not being like, whetherit's Mexico, that's great, right

(01:31:41):
, that's what I'm saying.
But the news outlets are sayingoh, all Mexicans are going back
to Mexico.
Oh, yeah, ago, yeah, oh yeah,and they're tearing families
apart and it's like okay, butyou're okay, like you can look
at a kid and be like, okay, yourdad murdered like 30 people at
one of our schools and somehowgot away with it and it's like,
so he can you.
Would you rather have acriminal be here?

(01:32:02):
That's illegal.
First of all, like I don't wantany criminals in here,
obviously, but when you have anillegal migrant who comes in
here, I better, better leave.
And they don't again.
They don't do taxes, they don'tdo anything like that.
They just come here, they killand they just live here for free
, while I'm sitting here paying$2,000 out of every paycheck

(01:32:22):
where I could be getting anextra $2,000 more so I could pay
more taxes Dang how much moneyyou make if you're paying
$2,000?
.
In a hypothetical situation yeah, but you taxes how much money
you make.
If you're paying two thousandin a hypothetical situation,
yeah, but you know what I meanand so, yeah, that's.
The whole thing is the news ismaking trump to be this racist
bad guy because he's deportingmexicans.
It's like no, he's deportinganybody.

Speaker 1 (01:32:40):
That's illegal and a criminal to go back to their
countries they're they're goingafter, like the ones that are
committing crimes and I thinkthey do want to work with the
ones that are illegal, that arecommitting crimes, and I think
they do want to work with theones that are illegal, that are
normal, like they're just tryingto make a living like a grandma
and her like her grandchildrenlike they.
They're obviously not going tobe like yo get out of here like
they want to work they should II think that I don't have a

(01:33:04):
problem with them working withlike people like that, because
maybe they were trying to escapesomething.
Obviously they still did breakthe law.
The law.

Speaker 2 (01:33:10):
Well, yeah, their governments and stuff like that
are like what they're saying islike Mexico is corrupted right
now with their leader and stufflike that.
Same thing with China, samething with Korea.
That's why all these people arecoming here illegally, because
they want to escape theirgovernment.

Speaker 3 (01:33:23):
I think we shouldn't let anybody in, we should just
close it off completely.

Speaker 1 (01:33:29):
That's what he's trying to do have a great wall
of America.

Speaker 2 (01:33:31):
He's pretty much trying to close it down, so
nobody can get in or out at thatpoint for illegals and stuff
which I'm okay with.

Speaker 3 (01:33:38):
We're going to make it out of gold.

Speaker 1 (01:33:40):
And the other thing is.
The other thing too is like thewall.
People generally who are on,who don't like America, are on
the left.
And so now people on the leftare talking about how, like we
were born we, we won the lotteryby being born here and they
should be able to come here.
It's like.
Well, five months ago, this wasthe worst place on earth to
live right.

Speaker 2 (01:33:59):
And now you're like praising it, and now you're
praising.

Speaker 1 (01:34:02):
It's like so what is it right like?
If it's so terrible, why do youwant people to come here?

Speaker 2 (01:34:06):
right.
And there are people too that,like they complain about how bad
it is and like miley cyrus,ellen degeneres whoever else,
like all these celebrities.
Tom hanks even too.
He's like well, I'm getting outof here because trump's
president it's like okay, cool,bye, don't come back well, I'm
pretty sure a lot of them wereon diddy's list, so oh yeah,
there's that too, the diddy list.
Yeah, trump's are.
I think trump's trying to getthat leaked out, not Not?

Speaker 3 (01:34:28):
the Diddy List.

Speaker 2 (01:34:29):
Yeah no, they're exposing everybody and so
they're just like get out ofhere quick, because then at that
point I won't have therepercussions of anything.

Speaker 3 (01:34:37):
I heard Parker was on the list.

Speaker 1 (01:34:39):
Yep, I was at a Diddy party.
That's scary.

Speaker 2 (01:34:42):
I'm just kidding, ain't no party like a Diddy
party, I think stuff in minorwent too.
I was hosting it, you know.
You think it was ditty.

Speaker 1 (01:34:52):
We're going to move on.

Speaker 3 (01:34:53):
Now we're shut down.

Speaker 2 (01:34:53):
Yeah, we're going to move on, we're shut down.
But like that's how it is,though, is with these, you know,
everybody's like fleeing andthey're saying they hate it, and
then like they're saying, oh,now it's great and it's like you
, just because you win the lotto, everything's all fine and
hunky dory now, no, that's notthe case.

Speaker 1 (01:35:14):
No, it's not that they won the lottery.

Speaker 2 (01:35:15):
I'm just saying like back to your thing, you know,
yeah, yeah.
And I do think too, with, like,the immigrants that are coming
in, like what he was saying islike, obviously they're working
with the people that are herethat are trying to just get a
normal life going.
I'm all OK by that life going,I'm all okay by that.
And jd vance brought upsomething actually really nice
is.
He said that like we do want towork with these people because

(01:35:36):
and he wants to get the americandream back in order to because
the american dream was like youknow, you have a nice home, you
have a wife and kids, you knownice car, whatever it is.
You know, whatever you defineas the american dream is what
you define as the american dream.
Yeah, and you know, immigrantsdid help build this country.
I'm not I'm not one of thosepeople that are like, oh, get

(01:35:57):
every immigrant out of here.
You know, because technicallywe're immigrants I'm not I
just think they should come backlike come in, correctly they
should come in correctly andthen for the people that are
here legally, that are normal,the government should work with
them on a process to get themDefine normal.

Speaker 3 (01:36:15):
That's what I was getting to is they're trying to
make a normal life.

Speaker 2 (01:36:20):
They're trying to get a nice family thing going.
Maybe their home in Mexico, orwherever they came from, wasn't
the best and they're just tryingto make an honest living.

Speaker 3 (01:36:28):
Yeah, if you're coming here and you want to work
and contribute to society.

Speaker 2 (01:36:32):
Right then, go for it , bro.
I'm all for it.

Speaker 3 (01:36:35):
Then they should probably leave.

Speaker 2 (01:36:39):
Good Lord.

Speaker 3 (01:36:40):
Rough crowd.

Speaker 2 (01:36:42):
They should be allowed to come in and I'm cool
with that.
But yeah, if you're shooting upschools or you're dealing drugs
or selling illegal, firearms,then there's a difference.

Speaker 1 (01:36:51):
Well, here's one of the arguments.
There's white kids shooting upschools.

Speaker 2 (01:36:54):
Yeah, and those kids should be just banned or death
penalty.

Speaker 3 (01:36:56):
I think we should get rid of white people.

Speaker 2 (01:36:58):
Yeah, me too.

Speaker 1 (01:37:00):
I want to know what's going on with the whole school
shooting.

Speaker 2 (01:37:05):
America's just full of.
It is what it is.

Speaker 1 (01:37:08):
It is America's got the most school shootings like
yeah, we also have the mostaccess to guns, but why is it?
Because so?
Why is it happening more now?
Because before you would bringyour shotguns and rifles to
school and go hunting afterwardafter school it would be in your
car, so it's like that's a goodpoint.
People are claiming it's not amental health thing.

(01:37:29):
It's like then what is it?

Speaker 2 (01:37:30):
I think it's.
It's a combination of mentalhealth and it's a combination of
other things too, so likebecause there are kids that'll
just go in their parents likeroom, they'll open up the closet
and oh, somebody forgot to lockthe gun safe, and so they're
thinking, oh, I seen call ofduty.
And then they blame video games.
That's the other thing too.
The government is trying to ban, like certain video games with
guns and crap in here, becauseof the fact, like, oh, it's an

(01:37:53):
inspiration for you know schoolshootings.
Cause, if you remember themodern warfare to mission.

Speaker 1 (01:37:57):
I can remember that.

Speaker 3 (01:37:59):
I don't think it's solid enough to say it's just
video games, though no, butthat's what they're trying to do
.

Speaker 2 (01:38:04):
Is they're trying to blame it, like, like the modern
warfare to warfare 2 no russianwhere you shoot up an entire
airport.
I know, yeah, I've played it.
Yeah, I remember I remember Ijust I held the trigger down I
dude, I hated that like it toldyou you could skip it or not,
and then it's like oh, okay,cool, I guess I'll skip it, or
I'm like, I'm intrigued, I'llplay it, but it's like this is

(01:38:26):
like disturbing I just it waspretty disturbing, yeah, when I
think about it, and I wasdisturbing that like I played
the episode and, I think, blackops 6.
Right now, the newest call ofduty is uh, I did that.
I haven't played the campaignin a minute, but I think they
did do something with, like,where you can go through um, a,
like a cut scene or a you know amission where you have to shoot

(01:38:48):
up something.
They actually at first I thinkthey went through the data files
and they were going to do a9-11 sequence where you get to
play as one of the hijackers.

Speaker 1 (01:38:58):
No way that's so wrong dude.

Speaker 3 (01:39:00):
The whole game is based off government conspiracy
is Black Ops 6.

Speaker 2 (01:39:05):
But the Cold War?

Speaker 3 (01:39:06):
and everything.

Speaker 1 (01:39:08):
Before we move on to video games, I want to say you
have to be deranged, yeah, to goshoot up a school as a kid.
So I'm just wondering, like,what is getting these kids heads
?

Speaker 2 (01:39:20):
but they also the other thing is do something like
that.
Well, that's where I'm likerelating it to, because if you
get a game like okay, thinkabout it, six-year-old timmy is
playing grand theft auto.
This is where I'm getting withthe video game tie-in.
He's thinking oh, they shoot agun and you know, grant early
grand theft auto, there's likeno blood because it was like
really low rendered graphics.
So all you do is see a guy fallover and he's, he's sleeping or

(01:39:42):
whatever.
He's not moving.
So a little kid could just goin his dad's closet or mom's
closet, grab the gun, bring itto school and think the same
thing's gonna happen.
It's gonna be a fun littlething.
Well, it's generally not likesome six-year-old kid, no but as
like you know, what I'm sayingis like, but it's not it doesn't
pertain to actual real life no,I know there's six years old no

(01:40:02):
, I know that, but like that'sjust as an example is.
What I'm saying is like there'speople out there that like there
have been kids that have beenthat young, that have done that.
You just don't.
It's not as common as like ateenager, like junior, senior
year you know what I mean.
That brings like an ak-47 andit just starts blasting
everything I would love to seethat study.

Speaker 3 (01:40:20):
To be honest, it's me too that case.

Speaker 1 (01:40:22):
In general, and also are you saying that you do agree
that video games?

Speaker 3 (01:40:28):
no, I'm not saying that no, are you saying it's one
of the things?

Speaker 2 (01:40:33):
I'm just saying that's what the government is
trying to pin it on, right?

Speaker 1 (01:40:36):
I'm saying, like what is it?
Because you have to be derangedas a teenager to go and do
something like that, Right, youhave to be really messed up.

Speaker 3 (01:40:47):
I think it's medication.
I think it's a lot of things itcould be medication.
I think it's also bad, likeparenting in general.
Yeah, because if you're notteaching your kids, you have
nothing to lose.
You want to commit suicide.
So then you're like, well, Imight as well take other people
that I freaking hate.

Speaker 1 (01:41:03):
I can say that I went through like I went through
bullying in high school.
I went through like why and Icommit suicide.
Never once did I ever think oflike right same here.
I mean that, and if like thatthought did cross my mind
because like people are crazy,sometimes they think you can
think crazy things I never waslike put it to action, right
like you?

Speaker 3 (01:41:23):
yeah, but you're you.
I mean, I think it also dependson the brain chemistry of like,
how that affects them.

Speaker 1 (01:41:29):
Medication I didn't think about medication it might
be have something to do withmedication.

Speaker 2 (01:41:32):
Cause?
I don't think.

Speaker 1 (01:41:33):
I mean, how many times do you see a prescription
medicine on TV commercials fordepression?
And then it also says, if youhave suicidal thoughts with this
medicine that's supposed tohelp that, consult your doctor.

Speaker 2 (01:41:46):
It's like what?
Well, antidepressants also makeyou more depressed sometimes.
Yeah, that's what I'm sayingLike what?

Speaker 1 (01:41:50):
Oh yeah, like, if you feel depressed on this
antidepressant, consult yourdoctor.
Like what on earth you weresupposed to like make it so I
didn't feel that way.

Speaker 2 (01:42:00):
And it says too, like in the fine print, it says it
may make your suicidal thoughtsmore like alive.
At that point, dude it live atthat point.

Speaker 3 (01:42:07):
It all comes back to money.

Speaker 1 (01:42:08):
With the medication, it's like they're all trying to
make money so they don't reallycare.

Speaker 3 (01:42:11):
No, they don't give a rats yeah, you know anyways.

Speaker 1 (01:42:15):
Yeah, they just don't care um wow you said the right
one this time, I know right I'vealready slipped twice um, but
yeah, I just think it's weird.
Yeah, so I would say it is.
I think it's mental health andmedication, because independent.

Speaker 3 (01:42:31):
I think it can depend a lot on the person.

Speaker 1 (01:42:33):
If you have a psychotic break.

Speaker 3 (01:42:35):
I mean you don't have a second.
When was the last time you hada psychotic break, caleb?

Speaker 1 (01:42:39):
I don't think I ever have Never.

Speaker 3 (01:42:40):
No, okay.

Speaker 1 (01:42:41):
I'm saying, but but what my point is that it's
people are blaming it on there'smore access to guns now than
ever before, which I don'tbelieve.
Oh yeah, no, that's totalbullcrap.
Yeah, I think that's like whereyou're getting that information
right, especially because, like, if you get caught with a
shotgun in your truck and you,even if you said, hey, I'm just
taking a hunting, you're not,it's not gonna fly these days.

(01:43:02):
No, but you could do that, likeback in the 70s, you could say
hey, yeah I'm going, you couldalso try to drive back.

Speaker 3 (01:43:09):
I don't know it could fly.
I mean you might get well here,get arrested and then they'll.

Speaker 2 (01:43:14):
They'll be like oh yeah, it is well, here here's an
example as a gun owner.
So right.
But I'm saying back in the 70sthey just pass it by like oh,
whatever like nowadays, like formy pistol, since I don't have a
cpl, um, I have to.
So this is how it is forpistols at least.
Again, I don't have a shotgun,so I just I don't know how that
works, but you basically have tohave the gun and you have to

(01:43:40):
have a safe with a code on it,and then you have to have, um,
or you know, with a code orwhatever, like a lock or
something and it has to bebehind you somewhere not
accessible to, where you couldjust like reach down to the
table and grab it or whatever,in your car or wherever, and you
have your own house no, okayisn't.
I'm just talking like in the car, so like in your car, like you

(01:44:02):
have your safe or whatever.
You got your lock box with thegun behind you, you have to have
the magazine.
You can have the magazine, Ibelieve, loaded, but you have to
have the magazine.
You can have the magazine, Ibelieve, loaded, but you have to
have the magazine out of thegun.
You can't have anything in thechamber and it has to obviously
be like unaccessible.
So, and obviously if a copcomes up and he pulls over for
speeding, he's like do you haveany weapons or anything?

(01:44:24):
And you have to say obviouslyat that point, yes, I do, it's,
you know, behind me in a safe.
And if you get caught with themagazine in the gun, even if
it's not cocked or anything likethat, or if you have one in the
chamber or anything like that,and it's ready to go, like if
you have that there, you're done.

(01:44:45):
They can arrest you right thereat that point because that is
suspicious activity.
But if somehow you have themagazine out and separate from
the gun without anything in thechamber, you're fine.

Speaker 3 (01:44:57):
That's totally crazy to me, dude.
I would always have mine cocked.

Speaker 2 (01:44:59):
I get it because cops though, they do have a
dangerous.
There's corrupt cops andthere's good cops, and cops have
their lives on the line 24-7,so, yeah, I don't blame them for
wanting that rule, because if Ihad a gun that was locked and
loaded, even if it was in a safeand it looked locked at that
point, let's just say the cop—what's the point of even having

(01:45:21):
a gun if you just don't have itready?

Speaker 3 (01:45:24):
But that's the thing.

Speaker 2 (01:45:25):
You could be just taking your pistol out because
you're going to go shooting at arange or something like that.
You know what I mean.
Just don't get pulled over.

Speaker 3 (01:45:37):
It's easy there yeah, there is that, but even even
then, it's like the only other.

Speaker 2 (01:45:38):
It's my right to have my gun, the only accessible
right, the only other thingthat's confusing too is
motorcycle rules, when it comesto having a gun too, because
apparently, like, even if youhave like just a regular license
to like open carry somehow,like how do you make that work
on a motorcycle because you havesaddlebags and that's it,
that's all you have for yourluggage carrying.
So technically you'reconcealing a weapon if you get

(01:46:01):
pulled over on a motorcycle by acop.
And even in my jacket I have aconcealer pocket that's on both
sides, so if I'm carrying mydouble strap, get your CPL.
I know I'm going to this year,I'm going to get my CPL and
everything like that.
I think it's like 150 bucks,which ain't bad.
It's like uh, I think it's thesame day course.

(01:46:21):
You just go in there you take acouple like, or you hear a
lecture and then they give you apistol or whatever you're
planning on getting your cpl for, or whatever, and then you just
go to a range and you fire itand they make sure you're good
to go.
And if they feel like you'regood, whatever you fire it,
there's like every single bulletmisses.
They're like you're good there'salso like 30 million questions

(01:46:43):
of like before you even buy agun.
Like there's like stuff aboutlike do you, are you using any?

Speaker 3 (01:46:49):
drugs, can you say don't worry about it.
Are you a criminal if?

Speaker 2 (01:46:52):
you say you're not gonna get a gun, don't worry
about it, don't?

Speaker 3 (01:46:56):
worry about it, don't worry about it.

Speaker 2 (01:47:00):
But yeah, everyone but then they also like check
your background and stuff.
So like for me, you know, myname is my last name is very
common.
My first name has a uniquespelling to it.
There's not too many peoplewith an F-A-N instead of a
P-H-A-N or E-N or whatever.
However you spell Stefan.
So my thing came through likethat I got my gun same day and

(01:47:20):
everything.
So my brother, on the otherhand, he has a generic, like
very generic first and last name.
So his first name is John, johnDoe.
So he literally pretty much Imean, he literally has to go
through.
He took him like I think, two,three weeks for him to be able
to get his gun every time and hehas, like I think, three or

(01:47:41):
four.
He lives in michigan yeah, Ilive with him.
Oh okay, I was just.
I was just.
Can I just flew by say it mightbe?
Different um no, I think withdifferent states it might be
different, like I think Texashas different rules for gun
safety or whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:47:56):
That's what I think is crazy is like California, you
can't like have most of thoseguns in general.

Speaker 2 (01:48:02):
It's crazy, though they're full of loonies.
I'm like is that?

Speaker 3 (01:48:04):
how is it even allowed that the state is
overstepping the federalgovernment of like?

Speaker 2 (01:48:11):
you can't have that right, but hollywood owners can
alec baldwin, can shoot a guyand get away with murder, but
like if some, of course it's outthat's the, that's still a dumb
thing to me is the whole thingwith alec baldwin.
They went through that wholecourt case and he pleaded like
not guilty.
I guess at the end is what thejury decided.

Speaker 1 (01:48:29):
Well, what did he?
It wasn't an accidenttechnically, because he thought
it was going to be shooting ablank technically yes, but
technically no, because it'slike I mean technically yes, but
technically no.

Speaker 2 (01:48:39):
He held the gun and he was and in the scene he was
too close to the actor, becauseeven if you fire a blank, it can
still technically kill someoneor injure them seriously if
you're too close.
So he was already too close inthe scene that he was shooting,
but they told him where to standthey told him where to stand,
but it was his choice to getcloser, so he got closer and

(01:49:02):
then the gun went off andobviously the person died and so
they went to court with that.
So but alec baldwin's rich andfamous, so he can get away with
murder.
But I, even if I went up anddid the same exact scene with
the same exact gun, same exactblank or whatever it was, and
did the same thing, my buttwould be in prison.

Speaker 3 (01:49:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:49:21):
Because I'm just a regular schmojo who makes less
than like $40,000 a year.

Speaker 3 (01:49:25):
You know yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:49:26):
And I'm not in any Hollywoodllywood I mean, isn't
that still just?
It's a double standard?

Speaker 3 (01:49:30):
isn't it just accidental manslaughter?

Speaker 2 (01:49:32):
it's uh, what do they call it?
I think it's not manslaughter.
It would be like, uh, I don'tknow if it's like first degree.

Speaker 3 (01:49:41):
I think they got them for like first degree murder is
what they were trying to pushyeah, which is pretty much
accidental yeah, I, I forget thetechnical term for it, yeah,
it's yeah it's like if you hitsomebody with their car, that
would be considered that's likethey walk yeah, but if they
walked out in front of your carand you hit them and you didn't
mean to hit them?

Speaker 1 (01:50:00):
yeah, it would be accidental walk and it would be
first degree though.

Speaker 2 (01:50:04):
Yeah, I think there's like first, second and third
degree murder or something likethat.

Speaker 3 (01:50:08):
I think there's only three degrees of murder.

Speaker 2 (01:50:10):
And then it turns into like, okay, you committed a
genocide or you committed amass murder right, and that's
fourth degree yeah, I meanpretty much that's pretty much
what it is, it's fourth degreemurder, like you just went full
adolf hitler pretty much it'scrazy, like the people that go
and shoot schools yeah, yeah,they.
I think honestly at this point,like my my thing it's the same

(01:50:34):
thing with the pedophiles outthere is that if there's a
school shooter that just decidesto shoot up a school and kills
like innocent children andparents and teachers, they're
probably a pedophile.
No, like they deserve the samepunishment that they.
Like.
I look at it as like it's anold term, but like the
babylonian term is like an eyefor an eye, a tooth for a tooth.
So yeah you take a life, you'redead.

Speaker 3 (01:50:56):
And then oh yeah, we should definitely hang people,
yeah, and I don't know you knowwhat's funny?
Death penalty let's.

Speaker 2 (01:51:02):
I think somebody was I think somebody was trying to
talk about public hanging comingback.

Speaker 1 (01:51:07):
I think there's like only one state that does it
right now.
Mass shootings, because I feellike they get their fame from it
when they commit these massshootings and then they just get
to sit in prison for the restof their lives and right and
they get like a free meal freebedding and like recess and

Speaker 2 (01:51:25):
everything else, they should definitely die yeah, and
then same thing with pedophilestoo, like I'm just like it's
ridiculous that was deliveredvery coldly it does, they do,
they do.
They deserve death if they'regonna just sit there in a very
public way.

Speaker 3 (01:51:39):
Imagine if they were just like yeah, we're gonna hang
you naked.
Oh, you know, I don't know thatwould be crazy I dude what.

Speaker 1 (01:51:48):
What so okay, what a way to go.
How do we back up death penaltyas a Christian?

Speaker 3 (01:51:55):
That's a good question.

Speaker 1 (01:51:56):
It is a good question that is a good question, holy
crap.
As long as it's the governmentdoing it, it's not my problem.

Speaker 2 (01:52:04):
I'm sorry to me.
In the Christian aspect ofthings, I know how it says
you're supposed to forgive andeverything like that.
I'm not going to forgivesomebody for touching a kid.
I'm sorry.
I don't care if you're going tocall it a mental illness or not
, or if you were touched as akid.
That person deserves to die.
You deserve to die.
I don't care what happened toyou Even at that point, if you

(01:52:24):
were even set up and you stilldid it.
Sorry, and that could go forliterally anybody.

Speaker 3 (01:52:36):
I am chris hansen chris hansen, why don't you have
a seat right here?
Be like yeah, we just havegod's judgment on earth before
you, right, and I'm I'm sorry tome.

Speaker 2 (01:52:43):
I really again it's, it's the whole thing of like if
you're touching, like in prison,you know what's funny is in
prison for pedophilia you likethere is an actual prison person
who went in there for murder orsomething like that.
If you don't tell everybody inthat prison what you're in
prison for, like if, if you,even if it's like pedophilia
right or rape or whatever youwant to do or whatever they did,

(01:53:05):
whatever you want to do that'snot what I meant, I didn't mean
it.
I meant like whatever I knowwhat you meant, but like if you
don't tell them and then theylater find out, like you hit it
completely right.
And then they find out later oh, you touched a kid, they will
beat the crap out of you untilyou die.
And there's like high levelsecurity for pedophiles and

(01:53:26):
everything like that, becausethere are some cops too.
That will just be like I'm justgoing to turn the camera this
way and five of you a minuteinmates.
Do whatever you want to thispedophile, whether you kill them
or you don't kill them.
What if you want to rape them?

Speaker 3 (01:53:38):
do whatever they're human exactly so to me.

Speaker 2 (01:53:42):
I think pedophiles definitely deserve death, and
there's no going around it atthat point because even from a
christian point of view, youcan't back it up.

Speaker 3 (01:53:50):
No, but you just can't.
Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 2 (01:53:53):
Yeah, you can't, you can't back it up, and I think
too the other funny part isthere was another topic is like
what if they're like pleadingfor their life, okay, castrate
them.
They don't have, they no longerhave the tool does that's not
what castrating is or I thoughtit was.

Speaker 1 (01:54:07):
Don't you remove the?

Speaker 3 (01:54:09):
the peen no.

Speaker 2 (01:54:10):
Yeah, the peenar no.

Speaker 3 (01:54:13):
How are you going to go to the bathroom?
There's just Well, you remove,you remove the, you know, the
testicles.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that is ascientific appropriate term.

Speaker 2 (01:54:22):
Right, and then for women.

Speaker 3 (01:54:24):
they just stitch it on up Me, not do that at all.

Speaker 1 (01:54:33):
But yeah, I that at all.
Um, but yeah, I think from achristian standpoint I don't
know if I can back up the deathpenalty, but if the government
chooses to kill somebody, that'son, that's on them.

Speaker 3 (01:54:37):
Yeah, that's how I would say it like yeah, which?
Yeah, I agree with that.
But you know, yeah, there's nobasis of.
Yeah, you just christian, youjust can't like back up.

Speaker 1 (01:54:50):
No, you can't because , jesus basically tells you to
the exact opposite of eye for aneye.
So like as a christian, wecannot back up the death penalty
, but if the government decidesto hang somebody, that's yeah,
that's, that's what they do.
That's how I would say it I'mokay with it.

Speaker 2 (01:55:05):
I again to me, I show , because it's not like I'm.
There's some people out therethat like they don't have kids
and they still think it's nasty,but they like, oh well, they're
mentally ill, they should atleast have a chance to redeem
themselves.
It's like no, for for me, forexample, no, those kids.
For me, for example, I have aniece and nephew and I know, you
know, I have friends that havehad kids and I'm very close with

(01:55:28):
them and I helped with likebabysitting and all that other
stuff.
So to me, I mean, I eventuallywant to have kids too.
And if somebody were to likecome up to my niece and nephew
and like start touching them oranything like that, I don't care
who they are, they could be theneighbor across the street,
they could be a family member.
Your butt is getting beat.
You know, sorry, that justenrages me, because I really do.

(01:55:51):
I hate pedophiles, I do.
So if you're going to be doingthat to kids, like sorry dude,
you get whatever's coming to youDeath.
I don't care, I have no remorsefor you.
You cannot blame mental illness.
You cannot blame somebody setyou up.
You still did it regardless.
At that point.
Bye-bye.

Speaker 1 (01:56:13):
See you later.

Speaker 3 (01:56:14):
Yeah, I definitely think that should be locked up,
yeah, locked up for sure, well,I mean you guys like, yeah, I
just again.

Speaker 1 (01:56:21):
To me it's just disgusting stuff and I have 11
nieces and nephews I know.
I know what it's like to beyeah, just to me it's like sorry
, dude around kids.

Speaker 2 (01:56:30):
I would be like I'd have the same.

Speaker 3 (01:56:32):
No, I thought you were going to say I know what
it's like for one of mine.
No.

Speaker 2 (01:56:37):
I just have that same common interest that some of
the inmates in prison do Like.
If you're a pedophile, guesswhat?
Whatever happens to you happensto you, pal.
Sorry, that's just me.
Sorry, that's just me.

Speaker 3 (01:56:49):
So I wish the worst upon them.
Yeah, but I will never, I won'tbring it on them.

Speaker 2 (01:56:56):
Like it's still bad.
I'm not saying like pedophile,pedophilia is like the all-time,
whatever but like obviouslyregular murder and everything is
still bad too, and I feel likethere should be definitely
punishment for that, Regardlessof, again, if you were set up
for it or whatever.

(01:57:17):
You should still face yourcrime.
But for me pedophilia isdefinitely the top one where I
just do not give a crap.
You cannot redeem yourself fromtouching kids.
You can't, you just can't.
And I mean and again, you canprobably say the same thing
about regular murder too youcan't redeem yourself from
killing like 30 people at aschool.

Speaker 3 (01:57:31):
I mean in Christianity.
You can.
I mean potentially.
I don't know if you're talkingin that sense, though.

Speaker 2 (01:57:41):
It sounds like I'm not, but I am, oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:57:46):
I would disagree with you though.

Speaker 2 (01:57:48):
I mean yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:57:49):
So you think that they can't no matter what the
rest of their life they're goingto hell.
Is that kind of what you'resaying?

Speaker 2 (01:57:58):
For all the criminals that do regular murder,
pedophilia, whatever, yeah, Anyof them.
That to me is a bit of an iffysubject.

Speaker 3 (01:58:07):
I'm saying they can if they just stay in that same
course.

Speaker 2 (01:58:10):
Obviously yeah, in the christian aspect of things,
if they ask for forgiveness,sure and I get that jesus.
Like you know, he's like allforgiving and whatnot, but for
me personally, as a, as a humanbeing down here on earth, I
could care less.
You know, a murderer could justhave the death penalty like oh,
so you mean, you still havesomething against them?
Yeah, oh yeah, you can havethat as a personal event.

Speaker 3 (01:58:35):
I mean, if you want.

Speaker 2 (01:58:36):
I mean I wouldn't, but in the Christian aspect of
things, I understand where it'slike yep, you forgive Even
people that have apparently notgiven their whole life to the
Lord.
They believe in Satan as Lord,or whoever not given their whole
life to the Lord they believein like Satan is Lord, or
whoever Like on their deathbed.
It says in the Bible, though,that you can, like, ask for
forgiveness and accept Christinto your life, even on like.

(01:58:59):
If you have five seconds tolive, it's your last breath, and
you can still have a chance toget into heaven at that point.

Speaker 1 (01:59:05):
Yeah, yeah.
Well, that's what happens witha thief on the cross that was
next to Jesus.

Speaker 3 (01:59:08):
Yeah, and he was white.

Speaker 2 (01:59:12):
Just kidding.

Speaker 3 (01:59:14):
Good Lord.

Speaker 1 (01:59:15):
I also think that that message gets pushed too
much in Christianity, like it'sokay, you can wait until you're
about to die to accept it, andit's like yeah, because it's
like what am I going to do mywhole life?

Speaker 2 (01:59:25):
Just like get a bunch of hookers and cocaine and then
just go all out and then, righton my deathbed, be like hugh
hefner and be like I accept lordjesus is my christ and savior
and then die.

Speaker 1 (01:59:35):
And then, all of a sudden, there I am yeah, I think
like in the bible there's onestory of that happening and it's
a thief on the cross.
It's not like jesus ispromoting this message of like
right like.

Speaker 3 (01:59:45):
To live a debaucherous life and then we
don't know much about that guy,though I mean the guy in the
cross yeah, I mean technically,I think he killed somebody to
get there.

Speaker 2 (01:59:55):
So I think it was whatever he was whatever he was.

Speaker 1 (01:59:59):
I'm saying jesus throughout the bible is not
promoting some message of livinga terrible life and then, when
you have five seconds to live,to come to him.

Speaker 3 (02:00:09):
Right, right, because that's time lost.

Speaker 1 (02:00:12):
That's time lost.
It's also.
You can't risk that.
But I'm saying it seems likethere's a lot of people who do
promote that message.

Speaker 3 (02:00:19):
Right, definitely the wrong message.

Speaker 1 (02:00:21):
Yeah, like God's Not Dead is a perfect example.
It's like Kevin Sorbo'scharacter plays this atheist
professor the whole movie andthen he gets hit by a car at the
end and he's laying in thestreet dying and he's like I
accept jesus.

Speaker 2 (02:00:31):
And it's like why are all of a sudden?

Speaker 1 (02:00:33):
you're in heaven yeah , why are all these christian
movies like promoting thismessage of like, right before
you die, you can still?
Make it like I, you can, butit's like even to.

Speaker 2 (02:00:45):
Nicholas cage did a movie about the rapture like a
long time ago and that has thesame premise too is like when
the rapture hits and everybody'sdisappearing and like the
government's all freaking outand they're like rounding out
every christian and whatnot.
Like which will obviouslyhappen when the rapture happens
is they're just like.
They're right there, the, the,the guy's got the gun pointing

(02:01:08):
at like you know whoever, andthey're like I accept, accept
Jesus as my Lord and Savior.
They die and then they're youknow how in the movies with the
rapture, the clothes will justbe on the ground and the body's
gone.
That's literally what it is assoon as the guy gets shot.

Speaker 3 (02:01:21):
Nah, dude, I'm taking my clothes with me.
I don't think you'll have achoice.

Speaker 2 (02:01:26):
You're going to bring your Gucci pants and your Gucci
backpack.

Speaker 1 (02:01:31):
Yeah, I you're gonna bring your gucci pants and your
gucci backpack.
Yeah, I think.

Speaker 3 (02:01:34):
I think ethan would be the last person on earth to
ever own anything.
Gucci, that's true yeah, whichis I agree.
Yeah, they shouldn't market itthat way, because it's like the
great life, you can have a greatlife yeah, with with I don't
know well, even juice in yourheart, yeah, your whole life.

Speaker 2 (02:01:47):
Yeah, instead of right and it's like, it's like,
it just like yeah, just likethey just promote that message a
little too much in movies andlike plays and yeah which I
don't think like at that point Imean, again, we won't know
until it actually happens butlike I I believe, like with
caleb is like I don't think itcan just be that easy, because

(02:02:08):
if it was, then everybody woulddo be doing whatever they want
whenever they want.

Speaker 3 (02:02:12):
I think however they want.
I think it is that easy, but atthe same time I don't think
they have rewards in heaven asmuch as somebody that gave a lot
.

Speaker 1 (02:02:20):
If that makes sense, maybe yeah but I also don't
think it's worth the risk no,because how do you?

Speaker 2 (02:02:26):
because you could just die you don't always have
like five seconds to right there, right Like something right now
could even happen.
And you know it's like we'renot going to know that meteor
meteor, meteor, that destroysthis the whole castle.
Yeah, dude, Actually we're in afortress, yeah no way, like the
same, go through that zombieapocalypse.

Speaker 1 (02:02:45):
No, it wouldn't.
This place is invincible.

Speaker 2 (02:02:47):
Yeah, if we, if this was the Walking Dead, we would
be invincible right now, likethis place would be just a
sanctuary.

Speaker 3 (02:02:55):
Yeah, we talked about that.
Well, I guess we kind of talkedabout that last podcast.

Speaker 2 (02:03:00):
Did we we?

Speaker 3 (02:03:00):
should all come here.
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (02:03:02):
Yeah, like that would be.
Oh yeah, we'd get Rick Grimesand Daryl Dixon in here too.

Speaker 1 (02:03:07):
We'd in here too.

Speaker 2 (02:03:08):
We'd be unstoppable oh, here we go with the walking.
That's the other thing too.

Speaker 3 (02:03:12):
You know what's funny you have to go to the bathroom.

Speaker 2 (02:03:14):
No, you're good, hurry up you know, it's funny
too is like the government doeshave like an actual plan.
It's like, uh, I forget whatthe term of it is, but the
digits are eight, eight, eight,eight or something, and it's a
zombie.
Uh, concedions, pan or plan orwhatever.
I a contingency plan, that'swhat the word is, and it goes

(02:03:35):
over here's what we're going todo to eradicate all the zombies
or whatever.
And it's like oh, okay.
And the other funny part is too, is there's actually something
that's going around with likedeer, where it's like a dead
deer corpse or something.

Speaker 1 (02:03:47):
Yeah, but that's like some disease.
I don't think zombies is adisease, but but that's the
thing, though, is that's.

Speaker 2 (02:03:52):
That's the weird part is like I you know what's funny
, too is the only accurate way azombie apocalypse could happen
right now in like anywhere onthe world is the same thing
that's similar to the last of us, which is like fungus and like
bacteria floating through theair, because it's like it would
go in the last, was it like goesin your nasal cavities and when

(02:04:12):
you're breathing and stuff, andit infects the lungs and then
it infects the brain and thenthe fungus just takes over,
because there's an actual fungusthat takes over, like just ants
and stuff like that, and ittakes control their brain and
their muscle movements and stuff, and so they're basically like
it's a dead ant corpse walkingat that point.
But I don't think it'll get tothat point of like humans.

Speaker 1 (02:04:31):
I just don't think a zombie apocalypse would be
possible.

Speaker 2 (02:04:34):
No, but at the same time it'd be cool.

Speaker 1 (02:04:38):
I don't think it would be as cool as people make
it out to be no I think it'sromanticized one thing rabies,
possible rabies, yeah, but Ialso don't think that people
would become like some superstrong undead thing, like like
that runs really fast Ifanything, it would be like I
feel like the actual WalkingDead show where they're like
slow walking no-transcript, likewhen somebody dies.

Speaker 2 (02:05:21):
they obviously have no like oxygen, so your skin
just turns pale like white andthen like your eyes roll in the
back of your head or whateverhappens.

Speaker 3 (02:05:30):
Yeah, that's a good question.

Speaker 2 (02:05:31):
So it's like in the walking dead universe, with like
rick grimes.
It's like they're all lookinglike they're 80 year old zombies
, where their skin is like likeyou can see their skeleton
formed within the jaws and theskin.
I wonder if zombies wouldactually breathe then no, I mean
, they're just gonna like liveit.

Speaker 3 (02:05:47):
No, they would have to be like living people, except
they're just kind of no, theywould have to be living people,
except they're just possessed.

Speaker 2 (02:05:53):
Yeah, it's all in the brain.

Speaker 3 (02:05:55):
There'd be no way if they weren't breathing, then
they just wouldn't be a livingthing.

Speaker 2 (02:06:01):
That's why they're called the undead yeah, but dead
things can't.

Speaker 1 (02:06:07):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying, maybe on a small scale
with the ant.
Yeah with dead things can'tyeah, like it just.
That's what I'm saying, maybeon a small scale with like the
ant.

Speaker 2 (02:06:13):
Yeah, with the fungus , yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:06:15):
With the fungus thing .

Speaker 2 (02:06:16):
But there would have to be something pretty massive
for something to take over ahuman corpse at that point?

Speaker 3 (02:06:23):
Did you guys hear me pee?
I hope not.

Speaker 2 (02:06:28):
We got it all captured on 4K.
That's good.

Speaker 3 (02:06:30):
I didn't wash my hands, so he touched the
microphone dude, somebody isliterally saying that right now
what it's like you.
You didn't wash your handssomebody on the podcast.

Speaker 2 (02:06:48):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, somebody like that right now,
because it's not live well, yeah, yeah I mean

Speaker 1 (02:06:53):
listening I didn't know where you met yeah, I'm
just kidding oh man, what are weat anyways?

Speaker 2 (02:07:03):
uh two hours and seven minutes wow, new, new
marker bro.
That's crazy yeah, so what youwant to do, big boy, I'm good
with ending it.
I'm good with ending it too.

Speaker 1 (02:07:14):
It's two hours.
I'm a little out of it at thispoint, yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:07:17):
Taiyi, we're just rambling, going to go to bed-bed
.
Yeah, beddy-bye.

Speaker 1 (02:07:21):
No, I'm not going to go to beddy-bye, but it's just
like.
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