042: Three Guys in Red Flannels (One Grey) Solve the World's Problems

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Oh, mine is way too loud.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
I didn't even know he did that.
I like to drink Arizona teasometimes.

Speaker 4 (00:20):
Weren't expecting that.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
No, it wasn't.
I was like who is that?

Speaker 1 (00:28):
Wait, was that a pre-recording?

Speaker 2 (00:30):
oh my gosh.
Yeah, can you turn my?

Speaker 1 (00:33):
my these down.

Speaker 4 (00:34):
It's really he's like he's a guy like is it moving?

Speaker 1 (00:38):
you turn mine down oh , okay, so it is his.

Speaker 4 (00:41):
Uh, so yeah, there you go yeah, is that good now,
it's way too low.
How much do you want?

Speaker 1 (00:46):
A little bit higher.

Speaker 4 (00:48):
Dude, it's like right where it was.
Okay, yeah.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
It's right there.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
Just turn it down, the guy that he did the sound
clip from is a guy who like so,when Overwatch was like a really
huge game, he would be likemaybe I want to be Tracer, I
want to be, Tracer.
I want to be Tracer.
I want to be Winston.
I'm already Winston.

Speaker 4 (01:07):
Yeah, it's called Shy and Awkward Guy and he makes
the most.
He's gross.

Speaker 3 (01:11):
Are you allowed to?

Speaker 1 (01:12):
copyright for that.

Speaker 3 (01:14):
Yeah, you can use clips.
Yeah, you can use clips.

Speaker 4 (01:16):
I'm not using an actual video clip from like.
It's not going to be on video.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
Yeah, right, so I can use the sound for that.
Or like if he was like playinglike a Nickelback song, like
Nickelback's not going to belike oh, copyright.

Speaker 4 (01:28):
Yeah, I think you can play up to six seconds.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
Yeah, and then they like fly it.

Speaker 4 (01:32):
Oh, that's true, I've been using the soundboard back
then for years.
He never asked that.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
He's got Tom and Jerry.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
Everything was from something.
I thought.

Speaker 4 (01:40):
Some of those were the preset ones, Some of them
but a lot of them like who Caresand stuff wasn't that was all
stuff from other things.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
I'm going to copyright my cough, so as long
as it's under five seconds, wecan use it.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
Yeah, pretty much.

Speaker 4 (01:57):
Why is it so?

Speaker 2 (01:58):
quiet.
That was my cough Like back inthe day I didn't cough exactly
like that, but my cough is moreor less the same sounding every
time, regardless of how harsh itis.

Speaker 4 (02:13):
Yeah, that was me editing it to make it sound
funny.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
It was like a censor when swearing used to be a thing
.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
Who's that clown?

Speaker 4 (02:23):
Yeah, it was real funny.
So, caleb, tell us why we'rehere today I think you all know
yeah, the red final boys podcastwhich by the way I heard like I
forgot mine at work, so I'mwearing gray and white that's

(02:43):
right, the right I did make upfor the red table the red table
works so yeah, you are forgivenmy child, thank you so I think
if I change the settings toblack and white, we'll all blend
in, you're right, there we goproblem solved so I thought
we're talking about trumpno oh that's a perfect thing.

(03:04):
What about the epstein files?

Speaker 1 (03:05):
you guys think that's weird uh I wait, did they come
out with them, did they?
No, they didn't.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
That's the thing, is all like yeah because they were
saying that they were going torelease the files.
Then, all of a sudden, it'slike been what?
Like seven, eight months andnothing's happened yeah.

Speaker 4 (03:18):
Well, now they say that they don't.
They don't exist, yeah, right,so somebody burned them.
The big speculation is thatTrump is on a list.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
Well, here's the thing with that too is like sure
that could be a definite thing.
I mean because if you're not onthe list, you don't really.
It's like any kind of situationat that point.
You're like if you don't haveanything to hide then, or if
you're not guilty of anything,you don't have anything to hide
at that point.
You know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (03:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
But also, too, it's like he also said he was going
to release the JFK files and theMartin Luther King ones, which
I think he did.
Did he?
Yeah, martin Luther King ones?
Yeah, the Martin Luther King hewas?
Basically it sounds bad, butlike, from what I read up on, is
that Martin Luther King wasactually like P.
Did he like he was doing allthat stuff that did he was doing

(04:03):
?
Um, and a lot of people werelike so he's not like this, like
I have a saint, he's not he'snot a saint like we thought he
was.
Yeah, but he has a dream, soyeah, well, he had a dream, but
um, no, he yeah.
So he's not like as much of asaint as people made him out to

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be.
And then the j JFK files thatwas 100% CIA, that was 100% the
government.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
And it came out.

Speaker 4 (04:31):
Yeah, because who puts a president in an open car
down the street?
Even back then it was just dumb.
Well, back then too.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
It was dumb.
But back then, compared to now,there probably wasn't a whole
lot to worry about, like even tolike, yeah, just a president
getting shot in the back of the.
Well, I mean other than that,but like so, like, okay, for any
like.
Obviously this is a huge timegap, but like I remember growing
up as a kid, like my dad, when,like my parents split and he

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lived in his place and my momlived in hers, like my dad would
be able to leave his carwindows completely down.
We could leave the the screendoor open, like when it was a
hot summer day so we could getlike fresh air in the windows
open with the screens.
We wouldn't have to worry aboutanybody like trying to break in
or do anything or stealanything.
But nowadays you have to almosthave like three dead bolts on

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your door and lock on your carwindows, so you're saying that
it was safer.
It was more or less, but it wasprobably, as far as I think,
probably less.
I mean, it was still violentback then, but you know what I
mean?

Speaker 4 (05:38):
Yeah, it was definitely less crime amongst
the common man.
But if you think about.
Abrahamraham lincoln wasassassinated, and that was a
hundred years before jfk that'strue so I think like for the
common man.
Yes, it's gotten more dangerousfor us and it was a lot safer
back then yeah, but still tohave an open, open car for a

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president.
I mean he was sitting on onlike the back of a convertible,
basically yeah, and then.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
Yeah, that all happened, and then his wife too.
You know what the other weirdpart is too.
What's your hot?

Speaker 4 (06:08):
take real quick.

Speaker 3 (06:11):
You just cut him off.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
I'm just like, yep, I'm here.
No, the last thing that I'llsay about the JFK thing on my
end is then his wife has thecoat that she wore that day,
where it has his remains on him,and she's made it be announced
like in the next hundred yearsor something like that, or like

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by 2092, that you like, it'sgoing to be unveiled to the
public, her coat with herhusband's uh remains and stuff
like that on there, which islike I know it's weird, but like
they also and 2092?
.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
Yeah, like it's same thing with like there's going to
be nothing left of the remains.
It's same thing with like theQueen Elizabeth too.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
She has a note for like in Sydney, I think, where
they're not allowed to open ituntil like 100 years after her
death, or something like that.
So, whatever, the importantmessage is that she has to share
in the envelope.
We don't know and we'll neverknow, because we'll all be dead
at that point.
I don't think we're going tohave any technological advances
in the next 100 years.

(07:12):
It's going to let us livelonger.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
Yeah, it's already been what?
46 years or something.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
Since Queen Elizabeth .

Speaker 3 (07:19):
No.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
Oh, I was like there ain't no way.
I was like she died.
Like what?
Maybe a year or two ago, Ithink oh her.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
I think it was RFK.
No, no, no no JFK, jfk.
Wrong guy again.

Speaker 4 (07:32):
And I think it happened.
Wasn't he president in, likethe 60s, rfk, jfk?

Speaker 2 (07:37):
Oh yeah, jfk.
Yeah, he mentioned.

Speaker 4 (07:40):
RFK.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
Yeah, I know.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
Was it 69?
Did he die 64,?

Speaker 1 (07:45):
I think, but anyways I haven't seen a president ride
in the back of a car since then.
No, that's a big change.
You can't even do it.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
The cars are a lot more advanced too.
They have it where if a bombgoes off, pretty much, then they
have some kind of cage thingfor underneath where it rolls.

Speaker 4 (08:06):
Now they try to hit them from the stage.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
I think, if they're going to whack a president, they
would just do it regardless,Even if he didn't die, like at
that point like in the paradething, so you don't think it was
the government.
No, I think it was, but I think, even if, like he missed, let's
just say yeah I thinkregardless, within like a month
or two they probably would haveprobably killed him.

(08:33):
Yeah, back in back in 64 well,even, or whatever yeah even the
running opposer knowledgeable

Speaker 2 (08:39):
guys, I forget the guy's name, but the running
opposer for j for JFK is the onewho set it up.
Pretty much he's the one thatthey found out that he set up
the whole thing for theassassination so he could win
the following party for gettingJFK out of office, because I
guess JFK had a lot of plans tohelp America.

Speaker 4 (08:59):
Which is very anti-Democrat, and he ran as a.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
Democrat Right and he ran as a Democrat and then all
of a sudden, like he just getsassassinated on a parade, like
conveniently, and then theyblame uh what?
Lee harvey oswald yeah theyblamed him for it, and then here
it is finding out like wellover 40, 50 plus years later,
it's really the government thatdid it yeah, do you think that

(09:24):
they're gonna try to assassinatetrump again because he is doing
kind of the same stuff that hewas doing?
that rfk was or jfk my goodnessman you gotta get the names
right well, as long as there'snot a simpsons episode that says
he's gonna get assassinated atthis point, then just because,
like he's taking a lot of thegovernment stuff and he's going

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against the fbi, he wants toshut him down.

Speaker 4 (09:48):
He's essentially at least claiming to be for the
people right, right, right, yeah, yeah, which the government
hates I mean, let's just behonest, yeah yeah, because
everybody's right.

Speaker 2 (09:59):
Nowadays you got to have three jobs just to maintain
like a home, you know, andthat's for both people.
You got to have three jobs tomake a stable income and
whatever.
Unless you're, you know, likebruce lee or some kind of
hollywood star, that's just gotmillions.
But then you got it too, whereeven everything is, the taxes
are going up on crap and youeven have it too.

(10:19):
We're like even groceries, likewith it.
It sounds dumb, because thishas been a thing that I've heard
from liberal people that I workwith at my store is that
they're like well, how come theegg prices doesn't drop down?

Speaker 1 (10:29):
and it's like but yeah, it takes time to do that.

Speaker 4 (10:32):
Yeah, it takes time, it's not gonna happen they're
not like five bucks anymore, atleast not where I shot gas
prices were what?

Speaker 1 (10:38):
three high three hundreds.

Speaker 2 (10:41):
When biden was in, they were, I think it was over
$4 with Biden in office, thehighest I remember seeing is
like $425 or $430 something, butnow it's like $340 today.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
But do you think the government is going to kill him?

Speaker 2 (10:56):
No, I think they're going to try.
They might try, but I don'tthink they're going to actually
successfully.

Speaker 3 (11:01):
Well, yeah, I mean they already failed twice.
I guess they failed twice Well,yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
I mean they already failed twice.
I guess they failed twice.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
So I mean like, but now he's standing president,
Maybe it makes it harder oncehe's standing president too.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
Like compared to.

Speaker 4 (11:12):
Well, like the whole Pennsylvania, one was obvious
setup, but what was the otherone?
I don't remember.
There's another one.

Speaker 1 (11:19):
I think they stopped it before it happened.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
Yeah, it was another one that it was a golf course
one, where he was like on thegolf course and the guy was like
hiding in the bushes orsomething.

Speaker 4 (11:31):
I think so I want to.
I want to say yeah.
And who stops it like?
Who's all involved?
Do you think like?

Speaker 1 (11:33):
the secret police or whatever find him.

Speaker 4 (11:36):
You know, yeah, they got it they obviously have to
have the area swept beforehandright, but if the government is
trying to kill him, yeah,wouldn't they tell police to
kind of go their differentroutes?

Speaker 1 (11:48):
and stay away from this area I don't know if they.
I don't know if they can telllocal police to do that.
They can, because they havehigher jurisdiction over your
state trooper, even at thatpoint yeah, but that would be so
weird if you came to the policeand like, hey, we're not doing
that.
Well, yeah, two different.
But that would be so weird ifyou came to the police and were
like, hey, we're not doing that.

Speaker 3 (12:06):
They're two different functions.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
It would be way weird , dude.

Speaker 4 (12:12):
Do you think the Secret Service is in on it?

Speaker 3 (12:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (12:17):
Do you think?

Speaker 3 (12:18):
the Secret Service.
I think the men in black are init.

Speaker 4 (12:21):
They do that camera thing, so we forget, do that
camera things, we forget.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
I mean we are seeing flying things in the air yeah,
that stuff's been weird lately.

Speaker 4 (12:29):
Yeah, but before we go, sorry do you think that the
secret service people atpennsylvania knew that that guy
was on the roof and that thatwas going to happen, or do you
think they don't know either?
And then all of a sudden, whenit happens, they're like oh, we
have to act I think people.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
I think people think that the police or secret
service is like really, reallygood.
When I think accidents likethat happen all the time, I
think they're really.
I mean, if you're in themilitary you're like, yeah,
they're so dysfunctional, like Iget it from that side yeah, you
know so I think it was just amistake.
I don't.
I don't think it was like theywere in on it.

Speaker 2 (13:05):
Okay, but my only thing is is how do you not see
somebody?
I mean, there were civiliansthat noticed a guy climbing the
roof before anybody else in thatarea.

Speaker 4 (13:15):
And having like a range finder.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
Right.
So I'm like, how do you notnotice that if you're part of
the Secret Service or FBI,whoever else I thought?

Speaker 1 (13:22):
there was a cop that was trying to follow him up
Literally.
Then he had to get off the roofbecause he saw that he had a
gun.

Speaker 3 (13:28):
Yeah but why not?
Report it, I mean it happenedtoo fast.

Speaker 1 (13:33):
He saw him and then it was like oh and then he was
shooting.

Speaker 4 (13:35):
Maybe that's why he missed, because the kid saw him,
the cop trying to get up.

Speaker 1 (13:42):
Yeah, then he had to go quick.

Speaker 4 (13:43):
Yeah, I don't have.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
yeah, but then also too, it's like how do you sneak
a gun like that, a rifle thatbig, into a president?
Dude, when even John went tothe Trump rally downtown, they
checked us, they had the wholemetal detectors, they patted us
down everything and I had totake off my necklace, my watch,
my belt, everything yeah, butthis kid wasn't in the rally.

Speaker 4 (14:07):
He was outside of it on a roof.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
Yeah, but even even then to the secret service and
everybody.
They have a certain parameterthat they observe and they're
supposed to be like a hundredpercent watch, because and you,
you could even be like threemiles away somebody could have
like a scope guitar case,something like that, some kind
of case like at the same time,yeah, like that's how I thought
about bringing a gun in here.

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Oh my god well, I can have agun in my apartment, but I don't
want to be walking the hallswith a shotgun that's america.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
Well, actually, technically you can, because
it's an open carry state.
You could if you want.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
It is an open carry.
You could walk around people.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
Be welcome to a shotgun no, you'd probably get
the police called on you.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
But then you'd be like it's an open carry and I
have open carry I can do thisyeah I mean I have my pistol,
but you know I'm I mean I don'thave a holster for it, but I'm
not gonna go flashing it around,yeah I'd rather get my cpl and
then call it a day, and that waynobody knows.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
But and I think, like crowds are so easy to get stuff
in, Like I don't know, likejust walking through with crowds
it's hard to like checkeverybody.
Like you ever sneak somethinginto, like I don't know, a ice
hockey game or?

Speaker 4 (15:19):
you know, like a beer or something like that, I don't
know.
Yeah, but that's a littledifferent than a presidential
rally.

Speaker 2 (15:23):
Yeah, like you have a hockey versus like basically
the ruler of our country.

Speaker 4 (15:29):
At that point I guess you could call it.
There's not many people whowant to assassinate hockey
players.

Speaker 1 (15:37):
It's true.

Speaker 4 (15:39):
There's probably quite a few who want to
assassinate.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
But if he was like Jason Bour born, jumping from
rooftop to rooftop.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
That was jason bowen oh, that's crazy yeah, but that
in that whole case too, thethere were civilians that
pointed it out for the cops togo notice, and then again there
was like the secret service andeverybody else there too.
So it's like, how do you?

Speaker 1 (16:02):
I don't think I don't think everybody went through a
metal detector there, to behonest.
No, it would be like one thatwe have outside at rose parks,
like they might barrier off theroad, but like people can sneak
through.
Yeah, they get through.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
Yeah, they could it's just again, though the secret
service obviously was not doingtheir job then at that point,
for like guarding the parameterno, they're terrible.

Speaker 1 (16:22):
Yeah, they were bad yeah, but then even too even bad
.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
Even when they were with biden they had that guy
surrounded like 24 7 and nothingever happened with him for an
assassination attempt I thoughtwhen they'd give speeches they
have those like glass up likethe poet proof they do, and you
know I think, it's just like ifthe president wants it, kind of
thing.
But I know they put the nexttime that he did a speech they

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put one in front of him but hewalked around it because he's
like, I'm not scared.
Yeah, like he had a bullet grazehis ear and all that other crap
and whatnot, but he's notscared yeah he doesn't need that
at that point and he knows thatat this point, if somebody's
going to do it, then it's ahundred percent the government
just purposely trying to killhim at that point.
You know what I mean.
If, if he can walk it, becauseif he was staying behind there

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at that point, then yeah, you'renot really going to get an
assassination attempt, but ifyou're, you already been shot
once you walk around there, yoursecret service better be on
your butt on that crap, becauseif it's not, then it's
definitely all planned out atthat point, because you're just
letting it happen the leader ofsecret service, whatever her

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name was yeah, she acted likeshe got fired yeah so she just
didn't care that trump wasnearly assassinated yeah, yeah,
it's funny, that happened a yearago.

Speaker 4 (17:44):
I know that was almost exact, because it's is it
July 15th?
When is July 15th 13th?
Oh so two days.
Two days from now.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
You know the funny I have the yesterday.
I have a shirt from the Trumprally that I got.
I actually met his parents inline at the Trump rally.

Speaker 4 (17:57):
I thought you were talking about Trump's parents at
first.

Speaker 2 (17:59):
No, dang, dude and uh , I have it shows trump like
holding up his fist after hejust got shot and the secret
service is trying to pin himdown and it says fight, fight,
fight.
I'm like dude, that is such acool picture, that's like out of
all the like presidential, likepictures and stuff that has
happened next to joe biden notbeing able to walk up the stairs
like the one with trump holdinghis fist after just getting

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shot, saying fight, fight, fight, fight, fight.

Speaker 4 (18:24):
I want a shirt with Biden trying to walk up the
stairs.
Dude, it's hilarious, he's justfalling over.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
They have it where he .
So they have a video thatsomebody did where it's like
Trump is golfing and the golfballs are hitting Biden as he's
walking up the stairs, andthat's the reason why he was
tripping.
It's just a constant loop ofTrump just hitting the golf
balls at him.

Speaker 3 (18:46):
It's hilarious Anyway we're going to move on.
This is pretty funny.

Speaker 4 (18:54):
Speaking of Democrat.
You said the other day that youthink that they're more
educated.

Speaker 1 (18:59):
Yeah, I do think they are more educated, but
sometimes they just do more.

Speaker 4 (19:03):
First point is how dare you?
And then, second of all, Ithink there's more that go to
college than republicans, Iguess.

Speaker 3 (19:09):
Yeah, I'll agree, it's more like that.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
I don't necessarily mean they're like smarter, but
they're more educated in schoolbut if you look at charlie kirk,
what is kirkman though?

Speaker 2 (19:20):
charlie kirk yeah, charlie kirk, if you've seen
some of the interviews he haswith liberals, they can never
back up their data.

Speaker 4 (19:28):
Yeah, well, I also think that he probably picks the
ones that lose.
I'm sure there's some that comein there that really challenge
him and he doesn't show those onyoutube right.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
So yeah, it's kind of like a one.
It's a one-sided view thatwe're getting.

Speaker 4 (19:42):
I can, I can see that because I've had debates with
liberals who would beat me in anargument yeah because they they
can back up what's going on,and I think that a lot of the
times, they actually know what'sbetter for the country, but it
is more based on feeling.

Speaker 1 (19:59):
Yeah, like they know or when it's played out like it
does, it doesn't work doesn'twork the way they want it to.

Speaker 4 (20:04):
Right, Like they think that it's super nice to
let tons of people come in theborder and it's like in a
perfect world.
That's great, you have a hugeheart but that doesn't work in a
huge country of millions ofpeople.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
No, and especially when, even, too, they've even
proven that, like most of themcome in because they're like
some of them are criminals.
But yeah, you get the ones thatwant to be citizens and whatnot
, that's fine.
I respect those ones that wantto come in and actually be a US
citizen, but the thing is, too,is you have to look at the rest
of the world too.
I can't just go to Japan and belike, hey, what's up,

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konnichiwa, you know, and get afree citizenship, illegally or
whatever.
At that point I have to gothrough custom, I have to get my
card to be an official japanesecitizen and it's very hard to
become.
It is citizen in japan it is andit's like, and people are like
well, it's so hard to become aus citizen.
I said it's hard everywhere.
You can literally go to anyplace on the in the world and
try to get a citizenship thereRussia, china, united Kingdom,

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whatever.

Speaker 1 (21:07):
Except for Mexico.
It's easy to get one there.
They want you Apparently it'snot easy.

Speaker 4 (21:13):
It's actually harder than America, and they're having
protests there right nowtelling us, as tourists, to go.

Speaker 2 (21:20):
And I mean at this point if it's going to be that
much of a conflict, then it'slike okay.
I would just be like hey, we'renot going to go to Mexico.
At that point, you know.
And then you know, whoever theillegals, just need to be sent
back.
And then, yeah, I understandthat there is a process, but
they need to do that.
I mean for us being naturallyborn, citizens.

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I understand that the countrywas built on immigration and
whatnot, which know is a goodthing, but there's a process to
it too.
Yeah, there's all a process,and if you're gonna just skip
corners just to be, hey, what'sup, like I.
There are people that I knowthat are illegal, that I just
found out about recently.
But I'm like are you trying?

Speaker 1 (22:00):
to get legal or illegally illegally.

Speaker 2 (22:01):
and I and they were like, uh, well, we're trying to
get your illegal or illegally,illegally.
And I and they were like, well,we're trying to right now, get
the process done, like they'vebeen trying to get the process
done.
So it's not like they're just,hey, I'm illegal and I'm not
planning on getting my uscitizenship.
It's, they're in the process ofit.
They're just here illegallyright now, technically speaking.

Speaker 1 (22:18):
So I'm like, oh, how do they make money?
I think is it like the farmers.

Speaker 4 (22:22):
There's a lot of places that are willing to pay
them low wages under the table,yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
I think so too, like the farmers like picking
blueberries or strawberries orwhatever, even like janitorial
stuff like that, the only thingI don't care for is the fact,
too, that they don't have to paytaxes on crap, because the US
citizens have to pay taxes oneverything.

Speaker 4 (22:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:45):
But they come in here illegally and yeah, they're
getting a lower wage than mostpeople, sure, but they don't
have to pay taxes.
And I'm like, I feel like, ifyou're here illegally or until
that process of a United Statescitizen.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
What taxes are they going to?
Oh, I mean, I guess they'repaid wages, right, and then they
also get free schooling and allthis other crap too, and it's
like dude, they're cool.

Speaker 3 (23:09):
Or they get a really good discount.

Speaker 1 (23:11):
I don't think they're having kids come do this, no,
what I was going to say.
I don't think they're payinghousing either, because they're
paying for their housing.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
Yeah, they're paying for their housing.

Speaker 1 (23:18):
So I've delivered to some of their housing places.
Dude, they're so run down I'mlike these should be foreclosed.

Speaker 4 (23:24):
Yeah, they're literal fixer-uppers.

Speaker 1 (23:26):
They're so bad.

Speaker 4 (23:28):
What?
The immigrant homes?
Yeah, yeah, they're bad.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
Yeah, they're like apartments and they're like Like
you know, the city of Detroit,that one city where it's just
like a deserted town, it's likepretty much like that, but like
10 times worse.

Speaker 1 (23:45):
Yeah, I drive to Detroit for work for sometimes,
yeah, it's bad Like and a lot ofpeople are living there.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
Yeah, Like houses could be falling down and
they're just like, yeah, well,this is our place to stay.
Yeah, and I get it.
It's rough everywhere, you gotit.

Speaker 1 (23:53):
It's probably for you free.

Speaker 2 (23:55):
Well, yeah, the farmer's paying.

Speaker 1 (23:59):
it just be a rundown and maybe that's why they're
paying so low too, becausethey're like well, we're taking
money out for your actual tostay here too.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
Yeah, you know I just feel like again, for me it's
like okay, you're letting themget away with, like it's like
the oj simpson case, you'reletting them get away with
murder at this point to a degreeyeah, but I think they've done
it for so.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
I think farmers have done it for so long, yeah, that
I don't think like I don't know,I wouldn't go do it, right,
right, or I would have to getpaid a lot more, and they're
like, well, we can't because Ican't afford it you know, to be
honest, that is a valid argumenttoo, because it's like, yeah,
I'm not gonna go pick up pigpoop off the farm, or I'm not
gonna go like pluck corn at like3 am you know, all I'm saying

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is this like does help oureconomy?
Yeah it does.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
And I'm not saying I'm totally like a hundred
percent against the fact thatthere are people here wanting to
do better, because I'm sure inmexico it's probably worse off
than it is here in america andwhatnot, because they have their
own depending on the placedepending on the place.
Yeah, and you know.
Yeah, you want to come to abetter place.
Sure, yeah.
But there's a process still todo that with and if you want to

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start out doing that kind ofstuff, you know that's great.
It does help us out big time.

Speaker 1 (25:12):
Well, I think that they want to get their.
American citizenship, becausethen they can get paid more at a
higher-end job.
That's what I think.
So I think it does motivatethem to actually become citizens
.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
And that's the thing is that I'm I'm personally all
for that.
I'm all for.
If they want to, if they havethe mindset that they want to be
a U S citizen, cool Welcome.
I will welcome you in.
I'll, you know, whatever I'll,I'll say hey down the road,
whatever, help you out later.

(25:46):
But if you're just coming inhere, you have no plans being a
us citizen and you're justhoping that you're going to get
more money or you're going tostart, like some of them will do
drug cartels and they'll doprostitution, whatever.
Like, sorry, like go.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
Do you think the amount of people should go up?
For how many we're letting in,even illegally?
Or we through a legally like,the number should go up like I
don't know like I don't evenknow what it's?

Speaker 4 (26:11):
no, no, how many people were letting in like so
we should let more people inlegally than we were right,
because I think it's just solike we don't let in enough yeah
, but we already have enough onour plate on top of the fact
that we have the housing marketscrashed, rents high everywhere
you go.

Speaker 2 (26:31):
Groceries are still high.

Speaker 4 (26:32):
Gas is still high but then we have to figure out a
way to keep up, yeah you wouldhave to, you would have to
balance it out.

Speaker 1 (26:38):
There has to be balance and I don't think that's
something.
That's the reason, because wedon't have enough food for them.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
Well, not just food, it's just.

Speaker 4 (26:45):
I'm saying, that's what I that's what I would be
worried about.

Speaker 1 (26:48):
The thing is, I think there's so much fricking food.

Speaker 4 (26:51):
It's not necessarily food, but rent is already like
so high.
I remember even before COVID itwas like a two bedroom at
Ramble would be $800.

Speaker 1 (27:01):
You have now, it would be $800.
But why would the rent would goup because you have more people
.
Yeah because, demand.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
Demand, and that's the thing too.

Speaker 4 (27:09):
I mean, look at the housing market right now.
I mean, that's what supply anddemand is, isn't it?

Speaker 2 (27:11):
My brother bought his house for like $170,000, and
because the housing market is insuch high demand, they're
raising the prices of houses.
Now he could sell his house foralmost $300,000, and it's a run
.
It's not a rundown house, butit's pretty.
He's got a lot of work to do onit.

Speaker 4 (27:27):
Yeah.
At the same time, I do thinkthat it would help the economy.
It would, because more peopleare going to need cars.
And as someone who works in theautomotive industry, that would
be good for us because we'dhave to wait.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
What do you do in the automotive industry?

Speaker 4 (27:43):
You didn't know that I've been working in the
automotive industry for like sixyears.

Speaker 2 (27:46):
I know you weld but I don't know what you weld
exactly.
There's a bunch of things.

Speaker 4 (27:50):
We make gauges, so I make the carts and the bases
that the gauge goes on.

Speaker 3 (27:55):
Oh, okay, and the?

Speaker 4 (27:56):
gauge is something that they put their car part on
to make sure that it lines up.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
Oh.

Speaker 4 (28:02):
It's like the step before tool and die.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
Okay, I'm sitting here wondering because I'm
literally thinking like you're.

Speaker 4 (28:09):
maybe you're welding like body panels of certain
things or different machinery no, we make the gauges that hold
those okay so they'll put theirpart on, make sure it lines up
and then, if it does and it'sintolerance, then the part can
go on the car okay, I didn'tknow that crap.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
I'm sitting here selling and stocking automotive
parts and he's making the stepbefore that.

Speaker 1 (28:27):
I'm like crap several steps several steps I think
it's crazy, though, on thatpoint, that, uh, that like china
has made like a lot of housingand they don't have the people
to put on in it well, the birthrate is also very low too we
have the opposite problem.
We have the people that want tocome here.
We don't have theinfrastructure to hold that many

(28:47):
people like let's just build it.
I don't know but we also.

Speaker 4 (28:51):
I'm saying we're going to build houses we also to
have I think that would helpmake rent go down if we had more
, if there was more apartmentsand houses, then people would
try to be like, hey, we need thebetter price because them over
there they're cheaper than hereand people are going to be going
there.
If we don't change something,we're going out of business yeah
, sadly.

Speaker 1 (29:07):
What will help rent go down is the baby boomers
dying well, yeah, there's rightnow just kidding because, like
they own most of the houses,like the higher end houses, so
if they die, then demand likethere'd be so many houses
available but nobody's buyingthem because they can't afford
them.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
Japan right now.
If you want to be like aJapanese citizen they said for,
like, I think, a year or two,three years you can get free
housing and stuff.
It's just out in the countrybecause they don't have anybody
that live out there, so there'sjust like housing and stuff
that's just gone to waste.

Speaker 4 (29:49):
I would live out in the countryside in Japan.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
The houses, though, when they show you them and
stuff like on interviews andwhatnot.
The houses aren't even that badin condition.
They look like they're brandspanking new.

Speaker 4 (29:58):
You can give me a hot .
If it's in the countryside ofJapan, I'm going.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
I'm like that's just.
The thing is like it looksreally nice and it's like for
free for like the first year tothree years that you're living
there.
But obviously you have to be inthat process.
You can't just leave after ayear and call it a day like you
have to be trying to get yourjapanese citizenship with
starlink you could totally dothat and work remotely yeah see

(30:21):
I'm saying make good money, notjapan.

Speaker 1 (30:25):
Yeah, I don't know.
I don't know.
I want to know about this whole.

Speaker 4 (30:28):
Starlink thing Yen Make, yen, make, yen Isn't that
what their money is called?

Speaker 1 (30:32):
Yeah, it's yen.
Is that rice down there, yen?

Speaker 4 (30:36):
No, yen is their currency.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
Yeah, in the United Kingdom they're called Looney
Tunes, or no, that's Canada.

Speaker 3 (30:48):
Canada.
They coins looney tunes really.
Yeah, no way.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
Yeah, they're called looney tunes.
Uh, you gotta google thispounds.
Yeah, uk is pounds.
That's what I was thinking.
And then I think same thingwith ireland too is like that's
also pound.
Um, yeah, it's.
It's weird, the currency andwhatnot.
I don't know what it is for,like germany or russia or
anything like that, but I meanyou know, I think australians go
by.
I don't know if they go by.

Speaker 4 (31:09):
They might go by Like pounds or something like that
too, australia.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
Australia, australia, they go by Steve Irwin's.

Speaker 4 (31:18):
I don't know, not anymore, stefan.

Speaker 3 (31:22):
Yeah, I said that, stefan.
Yeah, I said that.

Speaker 2 (31:29):
Those little colorful rave buttons right there on
that sound bar.
You know what he's looking for.
Yeah, I'm looking for somethingBa-ding Ba-ding Gosh.
No, I think that would be agood thing, though, is with them
building houses.
I mean, heck, you got the Amish, though, that build a barn in
like a day.

Speaker 4 (31:47):
Yeah but that's a barn, it's not a house.

Speaker 1 (31:49):
Why don't we just do barn houses, then Barn dominiums
?
Yeah, I could do that too, youknow Michigan it's really hard.
You can't do it in Michigan.
You can't why?
Because they well to build ahouse they want you to build
with a basement.
Well, barn dominiums don't havea basement, so you have to fund
it yourself.
They won't give out a loanunless you have a basement for

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draining reasons.

Speaker 4 (32:12):
Why does Michigan need basements?

Speaker 1 (32:15):
I think for draining reasons.
I think If you go to Oklahoma,and Kansas.

Speaker 4 (32:19):
They don't have a lot of basements there and they're
the people that need them withTornado Alley.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
Yeah, no kidding.

Speaker 4 (32:24):
Yeah, but Michigan is like.

Speaker 2 (32:26):
We don't really have tornadoes or floods, or I don't
understand why we have basementsin michigan I don't know.

Speaker 1 (32:31):
That's a good question.
Should I look it up?

Speaker 2 (32:33):
yeah I mean really again, while you're looking it
up the funny thing is, you wouldthink we'd have more floods
because we're literallysurrounded by water.
Yes, but we don't, and we don'thave tornadoes that often.

Speaker 4 (32:45):
Because the water keeps it generally cooler and
there's like no hurricanes oranything like that going on.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
Obviously we're not Florida, that's.
The other thing, too is likeyeah, we have pretty extreme
temperatures.

Speaker 4 (32:56):
Yeah, like we have, because it gets up to 90 in here
.
Yeah, and it's humid.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
You know what's funny ?
I feel like there's a hugedifference from like 90 degrees
like 10 years ago and 90 degreestoday, like so it's because we
were kids, right?
Well, we were kids but we alsodidn't have this much humidity
yeah, the humidity is bad thehumidity was is really bad and
it's increased, I believe, likea lot since like even the last

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five years, we're surrounded bywater yeah, so that doesn't help
with humidity no, it doesn'tit's, but then in the winter it
gets into the negatives.

Speaker 4 (33:31):
Yeah, so it's like.
There was one day it was like.

Speaker 1 (33:33):
I always thought that was weird uh, so it's like the
soil condition in climate,specifically the frost.
I yeah, I don't know, it seems,seems weird.
That sounds terrible, like whatI said, but that's what it says
?

Speaker 4 (33:49):
If that's what it says.

Speaker 1 (33:51):
Frost line to prevent frost heave.
So it's frost, I don't know.
I think it's because we're in acolder climate, essentially,
and the ground is very wet, butthat doesn't really make sense.
Why not just make a regular?
Sorry, I cut you guys off sense.
Why not just make a regular?

Speaker 4 (34:09):
sorry, I cut you guys off.
No, we were just.
We were waiting for the answeranyway, but I'd say that to say
I would definitely live in abarn dominium.

Speaker 2 (34:17):
Yeah, barn dominiums, they're really nice.
Annika is trying to and Caleb,uh, her fiance, almost husband
is going to be.
Uh, almost husband is going tobe.

Speaker 3 (34:28):
uh, they're trying to build a barn to Minium and I
think okay man, that one's anold one.

Speaker 2 (34:32):
Um there, I think they said like it's going to
cost over 400,000 plus dollarsfor what they want.
And I'm like my sister lives abougie life too.
That's the sad part, but I meangood for her.
I guess she and him got moneyand yeah, but they're looking at
a plot of land to build it onand I don't know when they're
going to have it done.

(34:52):
But Caleb knows constructionand he has a crew that can help
out and everything else.
And then I don't know if sheknows anybody, but she can
probably do like the interiorcrap.

Speaker 4 (35:03):
See, I wouldn't need anything big, I would just want
land and then something to livein.

Speaker 2 (35:07):
Right, like that's all you need.
I mean, I'm tired of the city.
The city is just stupid.
And then screw the city.

Speaker 4 (35:14):
One thing it's funny because the traffic here isn't
really as bad as compared tosomewhere else, but it's still.
I hate it.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
Alpine's disgusting, no matter what, so is 28th
Street.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (35:30):
Every red light you get hit, yep, and it's like so
people just stare at it.

Speaker 2 (35:32):
When it turns green and when they finally start
going, it turns red again, right, yeah, I think that's a
michigan thing, also, broadmooris pretty bad, or even going
like 10 or 15 under the speedlimit, like on the way here I
had some guy in a cadillac going15 under.

Speaker 1 (35:42):
I'm like bro, it's 45 it's because it's so dude, it's
sunday I don't sunday everybodygoes so slow, it's annoying
there's no.

Speaker 4 (35:51):
I don't know why there's because it's sunday yeah
, I know, but it doesn't okayeverywhere to be, but every
other day in michigan we aregoing like 20 over everybody.
That's safer compared to goingslower.
Yeah, I know I'm saying it'sjust a sunday thing, but come
monday they're going 90 down thehighway that's great sundays.

Speaker 2 (36:10):
They need to like pray to god that somebody don't
hit them from them being stupidI think it's old people around
the road on sunday.

Speaker 1 (36:17):
They just need to.
They just drive really slow andthen they don't go anywhere
during the week, so they'renever in your way they just need
to stay at home at that point,yeah they, they have to go to
church, okay.

Speaker 2 (36:27):
Like okay, I'd assert , that's another thing too.

Speaker 4 (36:29):
I don't think a lot of them should be driving.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
No, there's.
They have like an age limit towhere, like, you're allowed to
drive up until this certainpoint or an age I think it's
like 80 or something like thatand I'm like why you have.

Speaker 1 (36:50):
I'm me, but my dad is like 73, right, I don't trust
his driving anymore.
Hardly like you should drivefor him.

Speaker 2 (36:52):
I do when I visit him .
Yeah, I'm like you're gettingin my car or we're taking your
car, whatever he wants to do,because I'm like he the way that
he drives, like.
So I'll tell you this he's theyhave a 2024 honda hrv.
Okay, he's already broken theback windshield, and then he's
they've already had to have someother repairs and crap, and
then he's relying too much onthat backup camera.

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So I'm like great, I'm like dad, I get it, it's cool, it's
technology's advanced.

Speaker 1 (37:18):
you know, compared to like dude, once you get used to
the the backup camera there'slike no going back, I don't use
it.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
I, the cars that we have at the store I work with
for deliveries, they all havebackup cameras and it's like you
just put like a sheet over.
I don't use it like unlessunless it's like one of those
big like chevy express vans, youknow, or like you know like how
the amazon vans are so huge,they probably got backup cameras
and stuff.
Oh yeah, they do.
At that point that's the onlytime that it's like I think it's
exceptional to like use abackup camera because they don't
have any windows or anythingthat you can see to back up and

(37:49):
how far.

Speaker 1 (37:49):
Well, they have side mirrors.
You should be able to back upeven with a side mirror.

Speaker 4 (37:54):
Yeah, I used to have to do that in a box truck.

Speaker 1 (37:56):
Ew, I still do it with FedEx.
Yeah, it was gross, I was ableto do it I still do the side
mirrors because the backupcamera isn't good enough to also
see this.

Speaker 4 (38:05):
Yeah, it doesn't see the sides, so you almost hit
somebody.

Speaker 2 (38:08):
If that's true, walking or something but yeah,
like I mean even in my accord,like I mean I don't need a
backup camera.

Speaker 4 (38:15):
No, I was gonna say I didn't think it did no anyways,
age for yeah, age for uhdriving, driving yeah it.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
I think it needs to be lowered, if I'm honest with
you.

Speaker 4 (38:30):
Wait, there's an age you can.
Yeah, I don't think there is.
No, I don't think there is.
There are some oldies drivingaround.

Speaker 1 (38:34):
There are, but like I think you can be 100 and
freaking, still drive if youwant to.

Speaker 2 (38:37):
I would not trust anybody.
Hold on Age limit for Driving.

Speaker 4 (38:43):
But I think it should just be based on how bad you
are, because when you're goinglike 35 and a 55, it's like if
you're too scared to go thatfast, you, you shouldn't be
leaving home.

Speaker 2 (38:53):
No or if you're just not, as your senses aren't as
aware as you they used to be whydon't they have a cognitive
test?

Speaker 1 (39:01):
you have no reception .

Speaker 3 (39:01):
What if they do it?
What if they do?

Speaker 1 (39:03):
it's terrible, yeah that's why it took so long.
Uh, why do?

Speaker 4 (39:06):
they.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
Why don't they just do a driving test when you get
old enough?
Like hey, starting at 75, yougot to take a driving test every
five years, or?

Speaker 4 (39:15):
every two years, or just do it every 10 years
regardless.

Speaker 1 (39:18):
Like to everybody.
Yeah, because that'd beannoying dude.

Speaker 4 (39:21):
Yeah, it would be annoying Some people start
losing it at like 50.

Speaker 1 (39:24):
That's true.

Speaker 2 (39:29):
Oh, okay, start losing it like 50.
That's true, oh yeah, okay,yeah, you guys were right.
Yeah, there is no maximum agelimit.
Um, I knew it.
Minimum age is winning 14 yearsand nine months um.
A full, unrestricted license istypically obtained at 17 or
older.
Older drivers may facerestrictions or requirements for
license renewals.
Some states may require regularmedical exams for older drivers
.
Michigan accepts requests fordriver's assessments from

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concerned citizens about unsafedrivers.
So, yeah, if you got an old manon US 131 and he's sitting
there going 30 in a 70, sorry,gramps, but like you don't need
to be on the road because youwant to go on a Sunday cruise.

Speaker 1 (40:07):
Police officers should just pull them over and
give them a ticket.

Speaker 2 (40:10):
They should, but they're going to be like oh, I'm
so sorry, it's my cataracts,and then it's just going to be a
whole other problem and a half.

Speaker 1 (40:18):
But if they get enough tickets, they should get
their license taken away anyways.

Speaker 4 (40:21):
They should just as soon as they get their first
break here.
They should, I, they should.
I mean if they get over 70points they should start pulling
people over for going too slow,I think they should.
And also the other thingrealistically, if you're going
30, 30 and a 70, when do youthink that turn signals?

Speaker 1 (40:38):
are.
There is a minimum speed.

Speaker 4 (40:41):
There is a minimum, but it's 55 on the highway.
Yeah, I'm saying if you'rebelow that you need to get a
ticket.

Speaker 2 (40:47):
But they don't give them out At that point.
If you're going slower than 55,you either need to have
something wrong with your carand your hazards on, or you just
don't need to be on the road.

Speaker 1 (40:56):
Well they have a Flintstone car dude.

Speaker 4 (40:57):
Do you ever think that it's?
They have a.

Speaker 1 (40:59):
What A Flintstone car dude, they're running With
their feet do you ever thinkthat it's not necessary to use
your blinker?

Speaker 2 (41:09):
blinker I think if you're pulling out of your
driveway, like you know thatkind of a thing, you don't need
your turn signal.
But I think every turn like ifit's a, if you're at a four-way
stop and you're sitting thereand they're, you know, obviously
four-way and you're planning onturning right, don't sit there.
And there's a reason there's aturn signal in the dang car.
It's a safety feature, it's toindicate people that you're

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turning or merge.
Merging is a huge one.
I hate it when I see some guyjust go without using a turn
signal or even giving anindication that I need to maybe
slow down and let him in.
As frustrating is because therethere's a lot of people that
won't let you in regardless ifyou have your turn signal this
sounds personal at this.

Speaker 4 (41:49):
It is personal because I think it's.

Speaker 1 (41:51):
I think it's one of my pet peeves too, like when
somebody turns either right infront of you or like you're
coming up and they're turningleft, but they don't have a
blinker on at all or one thing,you're like I'm just gonna crash
if I'm on the highway andsomebody's 50 feet behind me.

Speaker 2 (42:06):
I'm not using a blinker no, that's, that's no,
that's okay, I think that's theonly time we're talking about
like when people are like prettymuch like almost bumper to
bumper or just a little likemaybe a car lengths behind I've
had people.

Speaker 4 (42:18):
Yeah, there's a reason for him at that point on
burton and clyde park where I'mat.

Speaker 2 (42:22):
The one thing I hate.
This is another thing I hate.
That's personal is when you'reso passionate about this no,
because my johnny, he doesn'tuse a dang turn signal at all,
he just turns whenever he'sgonna get a hit I know that's,
and neither does his girl.

Speaker 1 (42:37):
They don't use it's gonna be his fault if the other
person has a dash cam hate itwith a burning passion.

Speaker 2 (42:42):
But when?
I'm sitting to have a dash camwhen I'm sitting on burton and
clyde park and I have to turnright to go towards Clyde Park
to get to work and whatnot.
There there'll be people, soit'll be a red light Right and
you think if they don't havetheir turn signal on there at a
red light they're going straight.
They will wait till that redlight turns green and then turn
right because they have to be agood Samaritan on the road.

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They like, dude, you can turnright on red.
Unless there's a sign or anindication that says you cannot
turn right on red.
They just refuse to turn right.
They have to wait till thelight turns green.
I'm like bro, there's nothingon this.

Speaker 1 (43:19):
Dude, I honk at them.
There's nothing over here Ihonk at them.

Speaker 2 (43:23):
Oh, I was like, what was that?

Speaker 4 (43:25):
Did you?
I was like what was that?
Did you press the sound?
Yeah, no service.
Huh there, uh, um, it was one.

Speaker 1 (43:32):
It was one of my buddy's birthday, so he said
thank you tell him to shut upokay, texting anyways well what
was the turn?
I was gonna say somethingbefore that people don't use
them.

Speaker 2 (43:46):
I'm like, okay, either make it to where the cars
automatically are going to havea turn signal indication, that
are just going to come on nomatter what.

Speaker 1 (43:53):
But how does a car know you're going to turn right?

Speaker 2 (43:55):
Well, that's the car engineering.
I mean, it's self-driving.
They need to get rid of thoseno turn on route intersections.

Speaker 1 (44:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (44:02):
I always wonder it, wonder it's like why is this one
different?

Speaker 1 (44:04):
if I'm some person pulled out right in front of
somebody and they're like well,we gotta put one in now but then
you're right, their othersolution is these roundabouts
there's so many dang roundaboutsit's not even funny I think
roundabouts are the best things.

Speaker 2 (44:18):
It feels like ice skating rink I'm like sitting
here like pie.

Speaker 1 (44:22):
Yeah, it's farther than bread, dude they're just so
stupid.

Speaker 4 (44:28):
This is the best thing since ripped apart pie,
that's what they used to saybefore sliced pie came by.
I've never heard that.

Speaker 1 (44:39):
It keeps like due to light.
You have to come and you haveto stop and you have to wait
four minutes, bro.

Speaker 4 (44:45):
You have to wait four minutes Instead.
They're never four minutes long.
The lights the to wait fourminutes, bro.
You have to wait four minutesinstead.
They're never four minutes long.
The lights the lights are fourminutes oh yeah, they are like
all of them like half of themI'm not even.

Speaker 2 (44:55):
There are days where it's literally there's a four
minute light and there's nothingcoming from any direction and
it's like why?

Speaker 4 (45:01):
that's when you do a parker, u-turn a parker so like
say you're sitting here, this isthe light and it's red.
You turn right here, you do au-turn and then this way is
green, and then you make no,dude that's crazy yeah, but it's
yeah, but I've done that before.

Speaker 1 (45:17):
But here's the thing.

Speaker 2 (45:18):
Once, and I was like i- should never a cop can turn
on his lights and his siren togo through a red light and then
immediately turn them off.

Speaker 1 (45:24):
I'm like I've seen them that's.
That's actually illegal.
They shouldn't do.
I hate that.
Well, and then immediately turnthem off.
I've seen them do that.
That's actually illegal.
They shouldn't do that.

Speaker 2 (45:27):
I hate that, and then the other thing is who's going
to arrest them?

Speaker 4 (45:31):
Well, actually no.

Speaker 2 (45:33):
Another cop can actually do that.

Speaker 4 (45:35):
If they see another cop doing something, they know
that that cop is armed.

Speaker 2 (45:38):
Yeah, but they're armed too At that point.

Speaker 1 (45:43):
Yo, I got a bigger gun in the back, you know.

Speaker 2 (45:45):
Yeah, no, I'm like that's one thing I hate.

Speaker 1 (45:48):
No, he doesn't that guy, he or she doesn't.
I got an AK dude.

Speaker 2 (45:53):
Yeah, an AK-47 in the back.

Speaker 1 (45:56):
I got a Tommy gun bro .

Speaker 2 (45:57):
God bless.

Speaker 4 (45:59):
I'm telling no, I'm saying the cop, nice Boston
accent yeah, it was terrible.

Speaker 2 (46:04):
Nice Boston accent, sweet accent yeah, it was
terrible, boston accent.

Speaker 4 (46:07):
It didn't sound anything like it.

Speaker 1 (46:09):
If you ever come out here and do that again.

Speaker 2 (46:11):
Actually a cop can if you ever, ever do that again.

Speaker 4 (46:22):
Shut up.

Speaker 1 (46:22):
Shut up, dude.

Speaker 4 (46:23):
Ethan continue.

Speaker 1 (46:26):
A cop can give himself give himself what.
Give himself a ticket if hewanted to why would you do?

Speaker 4 (46:35):
that is there any time in history that a cop was
like man?

Speaker 2 (46:40):
I don't think so there he's got, he's got, but
you can't, so he's got right,yeah his quota, so he's got to
write a supplementation.

Speaker 4 (46:47):
Yeah, there you go, you ran out of time.

Speaker 1 (46:49):
He's like I'm one away.

Speaker 2 (46:51):
I'll just give it to myself.
Hey, why do you have 10 ticketswritten by yourself?
You kept running red lights.

Speaker 1 (46:56):
You give it to your son or something like that.
That would be crazy.

Speaker 4 (47:00):
You woke up late Ticket.
Imagine how regimented a copwould be like he's trying to
teach his son to drive and he'slike, hey, you can.
You can go like 10 miles overthe speed limit.
He starts going.

Speaker 3 (47:13):
He's like up ticket oh, you didn't, you don't have a
ticket.

Speaker 1 (47:18):
That's a double ticket like just for household
things.
You didn't walk.
Walk the dog ticket.

Speaker 2 (47:24):
That's.
One thing I will be terrifiedis if I ever do have kids and I
have like a son or daughter andthey're teaching them how to
drive like I'd be terrified tobe in the passenger seat while
they're like all right, we'regoing to do the main roads today
, because I don't know how y'alllearned.
I learned in a Kmart parkinglot in the winter, which I think
is the best.

Speaker 1 (47:42):
You just got to take them to a parking lot.
What do you mean?
To a parking lot?
What do you mean?

Speaker 4 (47:45):
Like, don't just take them on the road?
Yeah, but parking lot is goingto be different than on the road
.

Speaker 2 (47:48):
Yeah like you want to start?

Speaker 1 (47:49):
Yeah, but you have to you have to, you know you have
to envision the road in theparking lot.

Speaker 4 (47:55):
You don't start them off on the main road?
Obviously yeah, but there comesa point where it's like I take
downtown Detroit.

Speaker 1 (48:01):
You know I mean down down the hard roads, you know
yeah well, like so, and I thinktoo.

Speaker 2 (48:11):
I think, learning to drive in the winter is the best
way to learn how to drive ingeneral.
Because if you think about it,if you learn how to drive in the
spring and summer, even thefall, you're not going to have
that moment of like oh theroad's slippery.
And know what to do, becausethen that'll be your first
winner and you're gonna havemore of a likely chance to, like
, get an accident or somethinghappening like.

(48:32):
That's where I told my dad andstepmom when I was learning how
to drive, I was like I want todo it in the winter because then
that way, like the summertime,stuff will be a breeze, no
problem man do.

Speaker 4 (48:40):
I hate driving in the winter.

Speaker 2 (48:41):
I do too still, but I'd rather then you can slide a
nice hit something and but it'sthe experience that you get from
it driving in the winter atthat point, because then it's
like I know what to do if my carstarts fishtailing for no
reason.
I'm like I just let it do itsthing, because if I try to fight
it it's going to make it worseand I could cause an accident or
kill myself at that point and Idon't want that.

Speaker 4 (48:59):
I would rather know what I'm doing to kill myself
spinning down the road duringwinter time is a michigan thing,
though yeah, that's terrible.
One time I was on the phonewith my sister, jessica, on my
way to an interview and as I'mtalking to her, I like lost
control of the vehicle and I dida full 360 while I'm on the

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phone and I just like keptdriving I've done that once.

Speaker 1 (49:25):
I did that once.

Speaker 2 (49:25):
It's just like such like Michigan stories, because
that's so normal the way you did, like the gesture of, like I
was doing a 360 360 on the phone.

Speaker 4 (49:35):
Yeah, I was just like , so you've done a complete sick
360.
I think I just I spun and Ijust like kept going straight.

Speaker 1 (49:41):
I think I've done like where you go sideways, what
?

Speaker 4 (49:45):
it's just a funny image the fact that I could
imagine him being so calm, stilltalking on the phone with his
sister as he's spinning goingthat's what happened and I was
like, yeah, I just spun around,so I'm gonna let you go, because
I gotta pay attention to theroad, I think I've done like
sideways and then likerecorrected myself when I was
like totally sideways when I wasin my jeep.

Speaker 2 (50:05):
Uh, I was on my way to work when I worked at
farmer's insurance and Iremember this this car came on
the exit from 36th street to gopast that gerald r ford airport
and he just cut me off and so Ihad to break, but I wasn't even
going that fast either.
Everybody on the highway nojoke was going maybe 35 tops, it
was that icy out, and so Iremember putting on my brakes

(50:27):
and even just the slight brakesbreaking Like I spun around like
three times.

Speaker 1 (50:33):
Three times Three times.

Speaker 2 (50:34):
Yeah, Three full 360s .
I don't believe it.
And then the best part wasYou're lying to me.
I don't know why my headthought this.
But then I straightened out,but then went sideways.
I was like and I was hitting.
I knew I was going to hit theguardrail Head on right and I
Thought okay, the airbags aregoing to go off, whatever.
For some reason, my brainInstead of I was thinking it

(50:57):
came out into like perspectiveand I said brace yourselves for
Impact and then I.
Did.
And then I hit the guardrailNone of the airbags went off,
the bumper just Got cracked alittle bit and the guardrail
None of the airbags went off,the bumper just got cracked a
little bit and then my headlightone of the bolts broke off and
so it just kind of like flangedaround a little bit.
But then I remember I wasbecause I spun one more time and

(51:17):
then I was facing oncomingtraffic and at that point there
was a U-turn that I could goback home.
And I was like I was in shockbecause I was like, okay, I'm
not hurt, or anything like that.
But that was terrifying and Idon't know if I just want to go
home now or if I want to justmake it because I could, just
because it was so far back withhow traffic was, I could go out
of the 36th street exit and thenjust go to work.

(51:38):
So that's what I ended up doing.
And then people like, as soonas I walked in the building,
like you look like you, you sawit like you're a deer in the
headlights, and I was like, yeah, I just got, like you know, I
spun around three times, hit aguardrail and then just, you
know, had to go towards oncomingtraffic, you know.
So, yeah, and it was eitherturn around and go home, which
would have been probably moredangerous, or, you know, come to
work after hearing that story Idid not want to listen to you

(52:00):
this winter about how peoplecan't drive in the winter hey,
no, that was.
It sounds like you can't did I?

Speaker 4 (52:06):
you missed the part where the guy the guy came in
and cut me off he didn't

Speaker 2 (52:11):
all right he didn't use a turn signal he just we're
back he just merged, but hedidn't even care and I'm like,
and he's in a white car too andit's like snowing.
So it's like you can't see crapin a white car.
It's like at night you can'tsee a black car hardly, unless
they have their lights on atthat most you're definitely
damaged with this guy not usinghis blinker.

(52:33):
Yeah well, it's not just him,it's just everybody in general
I'm sitting here just drivingnormally and I'm like, okay,
cool, there's a red light andthen he's gonna stop and go, but
no, he just turns right I thinkyou should see this guy it's a
green light, but then I'mthinking he's gonna go straight.

Speaker 4 (52:48):
Remember his license plate.
No, dang it, dude you can'thunt him down now.

Speaker 2 (52:51):
Yeah, that cop.

Speaker 1 (52:52):
Another reason to have a dash cam.
Another reason to have a dashcam I need to get a dash cap.

Speaker 2 (52:58):
They have one on amazon for like 150 bucks oh
really it's a full 360 shoot,I'm gonna get one it's a.
You plug it into your like obd.
I only need.

Speaker 1 (53:05):
I only care about the front, though usually I mean
the front and the back arereally you would want in
michigan, though, if you getrear-ended, it's automatically
the other person's fault, sothat's not according to him.

Speaker 4 (53:16):
I can't.
No, it's like a 90 percent tie.

Speaker 2 (53:20):
Well, yeah, that too for that sentence that instance
because I I mean nine times outof ten, you take it to court.

Speaker 1 (53:27):
You're gonna lose.
But if you have video evidenceof a guy, like say you're on the
highway and the guy randomlybrake checks and you hit him,
yeah even if you had pretty gooddistance.
So then you hit him.
Yeah, that guy can get theticket yeah I mean even two what
if I?

Speaker 2 (53:46):
what if?

Speaker 1 (53:47):
what if I the front guy?
Yeah, what if I have to?

Speaker 4 (53:49):
slam the brakes on because there's people in front
of me doing that right.

Speaker 1 (53:53):
Well then, yeah, that's the guy's fault, yeah but
can the dash cam see that?
If you probably have, maybe ifit's don't yawn what?

Speaker 2 (54:02):
it's not even late, bro.
I was out late.
I was out till dude stoppeddoing well.

Speaker 1 (54:07):
Don was out late.
I was out till 3 am Last night.
Well, don't do that.

Speaker 2 (54:12):
Anyways, I woke up at like I think nine o'clock and I
got home at like three.
So I mean six hours.
I mean it was a decent amountof sleep, but at the same time
it's not a decent amount ofsleep and I'm still going out
tonight, probably going to beout past midnight.
So, yeah, it's going to be afun time.
We're going to move on.
You need a nap.

(54:33):
I need a lot more than a nap.

Speaker 4 (54:36):
You didn't even let there be any silence before you
said we're going to move on.

Speaker 2 (54:38):
I know because I was listening and you just yeah, I
had a little bit to drink lastnight.

Speaker 3 (54:45):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (54:46):
And then you little bit.

Speaker 4 (54:47):
I had a little bit to drink last night wow.

Speaker 2 (54:48):
And then uh, you, yeah, I know crazy right and
then stephan's gone off the deepend yeah, because I I'm a total
alcoholic now yeah a hundredpercent I had one.

Speaker 4 (54:56):
I can smell it through the microphone dog, just
like the earwax in yourheadphones yeah, no, it was.

Speaker 3 (55:00):
It was a fun night, though.

Speaker 2 (55:01):
I mean like we just we hang out at the bar, we go
for a few drinks, then we grabfood and then pretty much just
went back and to her no it was afun night, though, I mean like
we just we hang out at the bar,we go for a few drinks, then we
grab food and then pretty muchjust went back to her place and
then just chatted for a littlebit.
So I mean that was about it,but then tonight's going to be
like a fun night.

Speaker 4 (55:17):
You better be careful going back to.

Speaker 2 (55:19):
Easy now.
Yeah, easy now.

Speaker 3 (55:24):
Yeah, I mean it's been fun.

Speaker 1 (55:25):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, yeah, it's been fun.
That's all I'm going to say wegot it.

Speaker 2 (55:27):
You know, I'm taking her to Texas Roadhouse, oh yeah,
going to that roadie.
Go to there, I was like sothere was Sorry God.
There was you internet ever.

Speaker 1 (55:38):
I've duped it up.

Speaker 2 (55:39):
I don't know we're going to, so I'm going to take
her to Dorado's Mexican Bar andGrill because she likes chorizo
tacos.
It's basically a Mexican barand grill.

Speaker 4 (55:50):
Where is it?

Speaker 2 (55:51):
It's in Hudsonville.

Speaker 4 (55:52):
Did you ask what it was after he said it's a Mexican
bar and grill.
Oh, I thought he said I'm goingto Dorado's Mexican bar and
grill and you're like what isthat?
And he's like it's a Mexicanbar and grill, that's what I
thought too.

Speaker 2 (56:04):
I, that's what I thought too.
It's like, why are you askingthat?
Anyways, continue, yeah, so Iwas going to go there, but by
the time she gets out of workbecause she gets out of work at
7, but I'm trying to get readybeforehand like clean out the
car and all that other crap, andI told her I'd pick her up at 8
.
So she's got like an hour toget ready and just kind of chill
for a little bit.
And they close around like 8,39 o'clock so I'm like we're not

(56:26):
going to have time to sit downor do anything.
So Texas Roadhouse is openuntil 10 pm tonight.
So, I'm like we can go there andthen we're going to go to the
hookah lounge and we're going tochill and then probably go back
to her place and just hang outStuff in the hookah lounge.
We haven't been there in years,dude.

Speaker 1 (56:51):
You know how one it's basically like.

Speaker 2 (56:54):
It looks like I don't know what.

Speaker 4 (56:55):
You call it a bomb, it looks like a bomb yeah and
it's tobacco, and it's this bighose and you're just like yeah,
and you put the piece and thenyou charcoal on top put a piece
of charcoal and you breathe itout and it's like big clouds,
like a vape.

Speaker 1 (57:09):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 4 (57:09):
Like we used to do.

Speaker 1 (57:10):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, back in the heyday, bro, back in
the heyday.

Speaker 4 (57:14):
Back in my prime when I used to vape and I was cool.

Speaker 1 (57:17):
Back when I cut pie, you know.

Speaker 4 (57:21):
But it's tobacco, so Stefan your lungs.

Speaker 2 (57:25):
Dude.
But you know like when was thelast time me and you went?
Was it with?

Speaker 4 (57:30):
It had to have been at least 10 years ago 10 years
ago, I think.
My lungs have recovered alittle bit from there since I
haven't done any kind of vapingor hookah since then.
Yeah, you're going to wake uptomorrow and you're going to be
like Just going to sound likeMarge Simpson.

Speaker 1 (57:43):
Do you have work tomorrow?

Speaker 2 (57:44):
No, oh good, my weekends are Sunday and.
Monday.
So Saturday after work and thenSunday Monday.

Speaker 4 (57:50):
Oh boom, Another one on the topic.
Do you think hookah is a sin?
Spit it out.

Speaker 1 (57:55):
Hot take Come on.

Speaker 2 (57:56):
Come on, Indiana.

Speaker 1 (57:58):
Well, that always depends on if you're changing
your mind.

Speaker 2 (58:01):
State whether something is it's just tobacco,
that's all it is is tobacco,it's just tobacco.

Speaker 4 (58:06):
That's all it is is tobacco.

Speaker 1 (58:08):
So you do the cigars.

Speaker 2 (58:10):
Like I said, if you have enough of it, it changes
your mind state yeah, buttobacco is extreme?

Speaker 1 (58:14):
I don't know, because it depends on how concentrated
it is.

Speaker 2 (58:18):
I'm not going to sit there and puff it until I pass
out, kind of thing.
I'm just there taking a fewhits and then I'm relaxing and
chilled.
That's it.

Speaker 4 (58:26):
I don't necessarily.
I don't think it's yeah, Idon't think it's really a sin,
it's just a bad habit?

Speaker 1 (58:33):
I don't think it's not, it's not good for you,
Cause, like I think, well,doesn't, doesn't, and one of the
strict scriptures isn't likedon't do stuff, that's and
whatever.

Speaker 3 (58:48):
So what do you call depression?

Speaker 4 (58:49):
Not good for your mind One minute on that.
But what about cigars?
Yeah, it's not good for you,but not necessarily it's not
like a sin but I don't thinkit's good for you.
Are you talking about the versethat talks about how not
everything is unlawful but noteverything is beneficial?
Yeah, is that what it is?
I would say it probably fitsinto that.
That talks about how noteverything is unlawful but not
everything is beneficial.

Speaker 1 (59:08):
Yeah, is that what it is?

Speaker 4 (59:09):
Yeah, I would say it probably fits under that
category.

Speaker 1 (59:12):
Yeah, but I mean, you could say that for video games
too.
You could say that for a lot ofthings or your phone, yeah
remember John Humphreys or justsitting here talking.

Speaker 4 (59:20):
No, it's basically saying, like we're not saying
video games are a sin.

Speaker 2 (59:24):
we're not saying video games are a sin.

Speaker 4 (59:26):
We're saying there's stuff in video games, no there's
just like there's things thatare not sinful but they're also
not good for you.
Yeah, like pizza isn't really asin, but if you eat it every
day, it's not really going to isit really going to help you out
?

Speaker 1 (59:40):
No, Right, yeah, I like drinking too many monsters.
Is it not?

Speaker 2 (59:48):
too many monsters, is it not?

Speaker 4 (59:49):
or like video games too much, like, yeah, video
games are fun and can be adistressor, but like if you, if
it's eight hours a day yeah, Iused to do that, dude.

Speaker 2 (59:53):
I would play like on my days off.
I used to just be on it fromlike first thing in the morning
when I wake up, until, like Ifelt like passing out at like
two or three in the morning yeah, that was my life.

Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
It's pretty much like , instead of god focus, you're
focusing on world focus.

Speaker 2 (01:00:06):
That's like like so yeah yeah, and I was like
because caleb will tell you, Iused to be up even when me and
him used to play fortnight allthe time.
We would sit there and be upuntil whatever time, but he
would get on later yeah, youguys shouldn't have done that.

Speaker 1 (01:00:21):
What do?

Speaker 2 (01:00:23):
you mean just kidding ?

Speaker 3 (01:00:25):
It was just fun.

Speaker 1 (01:00:26):
But like I'd be on Fortnite, I did it before too-
yeah, I'd be on Fortnite already.

Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
And then he'd be like it'd be what?
Maybe eight or nine o'clock atnight, and you'd be like, hey,
I'm ready and I'm like, allright, I've been playing for
like the last six hours, yep.

Speaker 1 (01:00:38):
But yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:00:41):
You really warmed up then, so addicted at that.

Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
So so when, when I was in high school, what?

Speaker 4 (01:00:46):
I would do what I was going to say brain frying
literally when you play forhours of video games.

Speaker 2 (01:00:52):
I remember when I would play six hours of
fortnight.

Speaker 1 (01:00:54):
It'd be like you're just stupid, yeah, you're brain.
Anyways, back to me.
So when I was in high school, Iused to do all my homework at
lunchtime so I could go home andplay video games for the rest
of the day.
So when I would get home at3.30 until 10 o'clock, yeah, it

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was my job.

Speaker 4 (01:01:17):
That's dope, dude, that's dope.

Speaker 1 (01:01:25):
Can you say dope, one more time.

Speaker 4 (01:01:27):
Dope one more time Like groovy it was a terrible
story, but that's okay, likezoik scoob, let's move on.

Speaker 1 (01:01:33):
I thought it was To a better story.

Speaker 4 (01:01:35):
It was just a boy like a boy.

Speaker 1 (01:01:38):
That's definitely what guys do.
Yeah, because I would dosimilar stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:01:41):
I don't think I would do my homework at lunchtime.

Speaker 1 (01:01:44):
No, I hated getting home and having homework.

Speaker 4 (01:01:47):
Because I just do my homework at lunchtime.

Speaker 2 (01:01:48):
No, I hated getting home and having homework,
because you go there for eighthours.

Speaker 3 (01:01:51):
Right, this is his turn signal.

Speaker 1 (01:01:52):
Yeah, this is my turn signal.
You go to school for eighthours and then they give you
homework that you have to do athome, like imagine going to work
like every day, and then theygive you work home Like ah, nah,
dude.
So I was like I am not goinghome with homework see, my
solution was I just didn't dohomework.
Oh yeah, yeah you could do thattoo, I mean working retail and

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grocery for so long.

Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
Like years ago, I would sit there and come home
and I'd like they would want youto front and face everything in
the store so you'd have thelabel no, you did it at home,
I'm not even joking my cupboards, my fridge and everything I had
.
I would sit there if I had awater bottle that was like this,
where you couldn't see anything.
I have to be like were youbored?
No, I just was like it's justhabit, I gotta have it.

Speaker 4 (01:02:37):
Yeah, I gotta stock it I would work at speedway and
you'd have to do all the frontfacing oh yeah, you worked at
the one that was near us whenyou were staying with our dad
for a little bit?

Speaker 1 (01:02:46):
Yes, but I never went home and did it.

Speaker 4 (01:02:49):
I think I might have, just because you're just so
used to it.
It's just like then you lookback at it and also I'm not
going to lie it looks good.
It does Because you walk into aSpeedway and it's just Mountain
Dew and it's all facing thesame way.

Speaker 1 (01:03:02):
I want to mess it up every time, don't.
I want to mess it up every time, don't.

Speaker 2 (01:03:05):
Just like turn that, just punch it, just one can.
He turns where the barcodeshowing out of all the cans oh
my gosh, I hate that.
One thing I hate too this is Idon't work the front end at the
store that I work with.
But when you see a product thatlike, okay, if there's only two
things on the shelf alone,right, just two.
Let's just say it's this andthat can, right there, right,

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somebody will sit there and eventhough there's another can of
that exact one in front of it,they'll just put it right where
this is, instead of putting itback right exactly where the
other thing was.
It's like, really, you're thatlazy where you have to put this
in front of here like that.

Speaker 1 (01:03:43):
Screw you.
Yeah, it is annoying it is.
You know what I do though is.
I never take the front one, Itake the second one, dude.

Speaker 2 (01:03:52):
I do that with milk.

Speaker 1 (01:03:53):
Is that weird?
Do you think that?

Speaker 4 (01:03:54):
people's grubby hands were on the first one.

Speaker 1 (01:03:56):
Maybe I don't know.
It's just like in a reaction.
Sometimes I just take thesecond one.

Speaker 4 (01:03:59):
I always take the first one and I hope it's
already open.

Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
The milk is the one that I drank a little bit, I
think that's just a traditionfor everybody with milk, at
least, because the dates in theback are always like the most.
Maybe that's where I get itfrom because that's what I do
with my half gallons that Iusually get for my cereal and
stuff is I'll just go in theback and then that makes sense
with milk because, like yeah,because you get like the ones in
the front, it's like july 15thand it's like, okay, that's

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going to expire in like two days.
But then you go in the back andit's like july 30th and it's
like, oh sick, I'm gonna getthat one I don't really have
that problem because I we dolike uh, I don't know the fake
milk now that lasts like a monthit's like the low, like it's
not really milk it's like.

Speaker 1 (01:04:41):
It's kind of like soy I think it's soy milk but
tastes exactly the same.
Dude like I If you had twoglasses you could not tell if
they weren't labeled.

Speaker 4 (01:04:52):
I don't even really drink milk.

Speaker 2 (01:04:54):
No.
Are you lactose intolerant?

Speaker 4 (01:04:55):
No, I think I was.
I just don't really think ofdrinking it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:01):
It's not bad, you can get calcium from yogurt which I
eat.
Yogurt's good, I haven't had.
Oh, yoplait yogurt is like thebest.

Speaker 4 (01:05:09):
That's hardly yogurt, stefan.
Come on, dude, that's sugar.

Speaker 2 (01:05:11):
The Greek yogurt is disgusting.
I'm sorry, they are terrible.

Speaker 4 (01:05:15):
I eat plain Greek yogurt.
Greek yogurt I tried one Putsome cinnamon on there, dude.

Speaker 2 (01:05:19):
I can't.
It's just adding that.

Speaker 1 (01:05:34):
I think it's your thing.
I don't even think cinnamonisn't sugar, though.

Speaker 4 (01:05:35):
Yeah, it is cinnamon is like half sugar, isn't it?
Cinnamon by itself is not sugar.
Oh, I was thinking brown sugar,yeah, not cinnamon.
A lot of times people do mixcinnamon and sugar, but you can
buy just cinnamon you know thosecinnamon challenges that people
did.

Speaker 1 (01:05:44):
They used to do those cinnamon challenges.

Speaker 4 (01:05:47):
Yes, they were stupid .
You can die from that, dude.
Let's try it, you want?

Speaker 3 (01:05:51):
to try it.
No, I have a time.

Speaker 4 (01:05:54):
I've never tried it.
You should try it on air.

Speaker 1 (01:05:59):
I want to see how you fare.
What do you even do?
You just put it in your mouth,right, you just?

Speaker 4 (01:06:04):
take a spoonful of cinnamon you try to swallow it,
and you try to swallow it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:08):
Yeah, and you can't, and it's like there was one time
.

Speaker 3 (01:06:10):
That sounds like yeah , John did it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:12):
John did it once and he nearly died, because it
instantly dries your wholethroat and you can't, yeah, and
you start breathing it inbecause you cough.
Yeah, so then it gets.

Speaker 1 (01:06:27):
Yeah, it would be something to look up how many
people died from the cinnamonchallenge Dude, look it up right
now.
Okay, go to the Google timewith Ethan.

Speaker 4 (01:06:37):
So aliens.

Speaker 2 (01:06:38):
Yeah, oh, we're going to we're just doing a little
segue while you're might as wellwhile you're looking that up
one thing.
Okay, can I say something asfor aviation?
I hate that there's so manyplane crashes and like
helicopter crashes there hasbeen a lot lately and dad and
laura are sitting there and likeyeah, you should.

(01:06:59):
You know it's 150 bucks forlike a round trip on a plane.
I said yeah, but like have youseen how many planes have
crashed as of recently?

Speaker 4 (01:07:07):
in their defense.
Have you seen how many haven't?

Speaker 2 (01:07:09):
I mean that too, but at the same time it's just like
I'm sorry, but like, unless Ihave to get on a plane, what if?

Speaker 4 (01:07:14):
we get to a point where it's like only planes in
the newspaper they start onlytelling uh stories of planes
landing like planes successfullylanded today.

Speaker 2 (01:07:27):
I'd be even more terrified because they're so bad
but it is weird, like that onein india, yeah.
And then there was thehelicopter that uh just randomly
crossed uh, it uh crashed intothe washington river like just
out of nowhere yeah, but thatwas a while ago no, that was
well, I mean maybe a few monthsago, like it was a few months
ago it was the one we talkedabout on the last episode.
Yeah, like yes but even then too, yeah, you got the one in the

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Indian, the Indian ocean.
What was it?
Malaysia, something Unless thatwould know that was a long time
ago.
There was another one, though,that crashed recently too, and
it's just like what is happening, like why are?
Why are we having problems?
I'm not making a joke whilesaying this, but we had the

(01:08:10):
terrorist attack things during9-11, where now TSA is on
everybody's butt about getthrough the line.
We're going to pat you downfrom head to toe.
We're going through threedifferent scanners to make sure
you're not bringing anything,and then planes are supposed to
be safer, but then you havemalfunctions.

Speaker 4 (01:08:24):
Yeah, but it's not the passenger's fault that the
planes are malfunctioning no,but like even still, like well
too much weight, you know to adegree too.

Speaker 2 (01:08:32):
I don't even know if the whole rumor I don't even
know if the whole rumor of likeyou have to have your cell
phones turned off, and here's ahot take.

Speaker 4 (01:08:38):
Since we're talking about planes, I think really fat
people should have to buy twotickets, yeah.
And when you're sitting on aplane, those compact, yeah seats
and there's three of you,they're like, and like bertha
comes and sits down and she'sthe size of two people.
Dude, it's uncomfortable haveyou?

Speaker 1 (01:08:55):
why don't they have a designated fat person section?

Speaker 3 (01:08:57):
yeah, it's called the cargo bay.

Speaker 4 (01:09:03):
Oh man, have you ever been to north?

Speaker 2 (01:09:06):
star theater in rockford no they.
Their seats are like airplane,they're compact, like it's like
from, like you have one seathere to here and it's that much
space for watching a movie on aplane.
It is exactly the same thing,and I feel like there should be
like I don't know, it soundsdumb, but just make a Fatty
Express airline or somethinglike that, where the seats are

(01:09:28):
double wide.

Speaker 4 (01:09:30):
That's not a bad idea , I'm sorry, dude.
Did you find out how manypeople died from cinnamon?

Speaker 1 (01:09:34):
No, I couldn't figure it out, I couldn't find
anything that would say anything.

Speaker 2 (01:09:38):
They have to have something.
I think too.
Granted, I know I'm big, butI'm not 600-pound life big,
whether I know I'm big, but I'mnot like 600-pound life big
Right.
And when you get those peoplewhether it's a disorder or not,
because most of the time it's alife choice they eat their
depression away or they justdon't want to do anything and so

(01:09:58):
they're like I'm just going tosit on the couch and eat like a
whole family size lasagna, butdoes their depression really go
away?
No, my depression isn't goingaway, but you don't see me
gaining like 300 extra pounds.

Speaker 4 (01:10:06):
I think the only way you really get rid of depression
is like outside and exerciseExactly yeah.
You can take medicine, but Idon't think it doesn't help.

Speaker 1 (01:10:19):
It produces chemicals that actually are the happy
chemical or whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:10:21):
The medicine too also yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:10:22):
Yeah, the medicine also.
So I was on antidepressants fora while too, and they actually
make you gain weight.
So then that just adds morelike yeah, you might not be as
depressed.

Speaker 1 (01:10:31):
Yeah, they can't give you medicine that actually
works.
Oh right.

Speaker 2 (01:10:35):
That's true.
They can't give you somethingthat fully fixes the problem
Right but like it's still likeyou're trying to get like the
depression gone to a degree and,yeah, you may, may, be less
depressed, but then you'reseeing yourself blowed up and
it's like oh cool well, I'mstill depressed at this point.
So then you keep getting refillsand all this other crap.

(01:10:56):
So, but eventually whathappened was is my doctor had
told me, like if you want to getoff these, you don't, you're
not recommended to stay on themunless, like you know, suicidal
whatever.
And um, then I just startedgoing outside more and you know
doing, obviously now doing theexercising and all that other
crap.

Speaker 1 (01:11:15):
So and that's helped out like a ton dude.

Speaker 2 (01:11:17):
I've lost over 75 pounds like good job.

Speaker 4 (01:11:19):
Yeah, high five air five I also don't like how in
the commercials dog how in thecommercials dog for depression
medicine.
It'll be like if you'reexperiencing suicidal thoughts
this may increase the chances.

Speaker 2 (01:11:36):
Yeah, it's like I thought it was supposed to fix
that I hate that.
I hate it.
And then they make thecommercials like they're all
partying and having a good time.
Side effects may include death.

Speaker 4 (01:11:47):
It's like and you might die.
Yeah, it's crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:11:50):
Yeah, death and super death.

Speaker 4 (01:11:52):
Death, super death, heart problems, insomnia.

Speaker 2 (01:11:56):
Which I wonder too, since we're talking about
medicine what do you all thinkif they actually have a thing
for cancer or not?

Speaker 1 (01:12:02):
Have you heard anything about that?

Speaker 2 (01:12:04):
I think they do have a cure for cancer.
It's just they don't want togive it out because if you think
about it like it's too muchmoney, it's too much money, but
then they'd also be.
There is Okay, this also islike a conspiracy theory thing
too to a degree, but there's the.
What is it?
There's a stone plaque thing.
That's like the, where thehuman population is supposed to

(01:12:25):
go down by a certain year, orsomething like that.
If you guys know what I'mtalking about, it's the world
war, uh, world order, orsomething like one world order
kind of thing.
So the population is supposedto be down to only like two
million or something stupid likethat, like a really low number
by 2030, something, and there'sonly so much time for that to

(01:12:48):
happen, because then that'll bepeople in control.
But like it's the same thingwith medicine too is like if you
cured everybody's cancer, thatmeans you're prospering
somebody's life, but they'realso talking about, like reverse
aging.
I wouldn't want that.
Well, I like where we don't ageanymore I mean, I don't think
you can ever fight nature thatmuch.

(01:13:08):
Well, chuck Norris can, so can.
What's her name?
Jennifer Lopez.
She can fight the aging thing.

Speaker 1 (01:13:14):
You think it's not going to be possible.

Speaker 2 (01:13:17):
No, no Do you Same thing with, like I don't know,
that's a good question.
The age increase too, likepeople trying to live longer and
stuff like that it longer andstuff like that.
It's like why would you want tolive past like 150?
Like I'm sorry, like that'd beboring, I would rather.
I'd rather just like why wouldyou want to live forever?
Even people that are likecryogenically frozen?
They're like hoping, like yeah,like you know, I'll wake up in
like 3020 or whatever, and thenthere'll be technological

(01:13:42):
advances and I can live forever.
It's like why would you want todo that?

Speaker 4 (01:13:44):
can we go back to the one world order?
Yeah, you said by 2030, theywant to get the population down
2030.

Speaker 1 (01:13:51):
I think it's something that's not that far.

Speaker 2 (01:13:52):
I think it's something like that, where it's
five years.

Speaker 4 (01:13:55):
Let me but you, they.
You're saying they want to getthe population down to only 2
million people on the world.
Some like I was gonna sayreally low.
I have to get rid of billionsof people they're gonna have to
nuke the world dude at thatpoint that fast order.

Speaker 2 (01:14:12):
Let me see if I can find it exactly, or?

Speaker 1 (01:14:15):
or really, or really really bad disease, I mean like
covid like covid, except itactually did does kill that many
people yeah, something thatthey were saying what COVID was
supposed to be.

Speaker 4 (01:14:27):
It's crazy.
That's the conspiracy.

Speaker 1 (01:14:29):
I mean, childbirth is already going down new world.
But 2030, that's only fiveyears.

Speaker 2 (01:14:36):
Yeah, and I mean, I thought you meant 23, like 20,.
I'm trying to see if they showthe year.

Speaker 1 (01:14:43):
Which would be like 250 years or 275 years
Conspiracy theories.

Speaker 4 (01:14:51):
Conspiracy.

Speaker 2 (01:14:53):
Listen.

Speaker 4 (01:14:54):
Conspiracy, it is an actual thing, there's an actual
rock and everything like that.

Speaker 2 (01:14:58):
That shows the rules of like it's supposed to go down
to this number for thepopulation by this year.
Rules of like it's supposed togo down to this number for the
population by this year and then, if not, then the world is
doomed for, basically, us notbeing taken over by the
government oh, it's somethingstupid rock well, it's not a
rock.
No, it's not.

Speaker 4 (01:15:13):
Like they said, aliens carved it as you're like
brought it down.
Yeah, as you're holding a rock.
No, it's life is beautiful, buthere here's what show that to
the camera?

Speaker 2 (01:15:22):
so it says it's a conspiracy theory that possessed
the existence of the secretcobble of global elites planning
to establish a totalitarianworld government.
This proposed global regimen isenvisioned as eliminating
national sovereignty, replacingit with authoritarian structure
controlled by the hidden elite,with authoritarian structure

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controlled by the hidden elite.
And then it says manipulationand control.
Inheritances believe that theelite, manipulation, politics
and financial events created thecrisis such as COVID-19 and
control narratives now thatunrest and facilitate their plan
for global domination, disarmand control.
Some versions of the theoryinclude the idea the plan
involves disarming citizens tomake them easier to control,
which here's that also too.

(01:16:07):
So guns now.
In order to buy a gun, you haveto get a like a pistol or
anything like that, you have toget a CPL.
There there's.
You can't just go out and buy apistol.

Speaker 1 (01:16:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:16:18):
So and that was during Joe Biden's term because
when I found that out, joe Bidenwas making this thing where he
said, yeah, if you're going toget a gun before this date, you
better get it now, because afterthat you're going to need a CPL
.
So that's when I went out andbought my gun and I don't have a
CPL.
But again, I'm not going to goflashing my gun out to the
public, but I don't have to takethe CPL if I don't want to, but

(01:16:43):
nowadays you have to.
So I don't know how it is withARs and shotguns and stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:16:51):
I think you can get a Wait.
What if you're buying privateparty?

Speaker 2 (01:16:54):
Still got to, as far as I know, unless you got a
stupid amount of money.
I think you still need to havesome kind of class or something
like that.

Speaker 1 (01:17:02):
I don't know how the government regulates like
private party.
It's like the second buying andselling.
I think that's how gangs kindof do it.

Speaker 2 (01:17:09):
I mean realistically I mean, yeah, you can do it
illegally, sure, but like, atthat point it's kind of ruining
the whole second.

Speaker 1 (01:17:15):
Yeah, I think if you have to buy it from cabela's or
something, you'd have to get acpl yeah, but if you had a
pistol, if I had a pistol and Iwanted to sell it to kill, he's
not.

Speaker 4 (01:17:24):
Maybe he's not gonna kill, but technically, you have
to fill out a form and bring itto the police station.
Because what?
Yeah, yeah, because you're.

Speaker 2 (01:17:30):
That's crazy you're basically at this point if any
crime is tied to you, let's say,and caleb buys the gun and
something happens with it, theyknow that you recently gave it
to him.
So if they don't really need tocome to you for questioning, to
a degree they're gonna gotowards him because if they find
out that whatever bullet orwhatever came out of this
particular gun, yeah, you cantrack it back to him because, oh

(01:17:51):
, ethan randomly sold it to butif it's inherited, it's fine I
don't know about inheritance.
I think that's a different thing.
I think because I mean if it'ssomething from like, because I
think I think my dad inherited ahunting shotgun.
There's, like certain guns fromlike certain years, that you
don't need like a permit thingfor Like if it's something like
a basket rifle from like 1776,you don't need a permit.

(01:18:15):
I think it's like a historicalthing you need maybe.
But it's.
I'm not saying it's that old, no, but like there's certain year
guns, like from a certain yearto a certain year, that like you
don't need any kind of specialthing because it's considered
historic.
Yeah so, but if it's somethingobviously of like today's age
and stuff, then you're gonnaneed all this paperwork and cpl

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stuff sorry, is the one worldorder in the bible.

Speaker 4 (01:18:41):
Yeah, I think it is like the one world government,
because I know people talk aboutit.
Yeah, I think it's in thatrevelation, with the revelations
but, yeah, but it's with it'sin that same but is the mark of
the beast also the one worldorder like?
Where do people?

Speaker 2 (01:18:55):
get probably part of it because, think about it, if
you have the one world order andit's like this is the only way
that you're allowed to buy youknow goods, then that shrivels
down to the people that aregoing to cave in and do it
because how are Christians goingto survive during that time?

Speaker 4 (01:19:09):
We?

Speaker 2 (01:19:09):
won't.
It'll be basically like theNazis and Jews and world war two
where hopefully I die beforethat time.
Well, at that point I think too, like when we saw what was it I
think it was just calledRapture Like my dad showed us
that movie, yeah but we don'tknow if that's biblically
accurate.
Right, but at the same time,like if people are literally
going to be disappearing andthey're going to be like oh my

(01:19:30):
gosh, like what's happening andstuff like that, you know, then
yeah, there is going to be likea global pandemic at that point
where people are going to befreaking out looting, rioting
and killing.
And what my dad said is if you,or other people that have told
me too, if you get shot or youget murdered or whatever during
that time period and you don'tcommit suicide wise, then you go

(01:19:53):
with the rapture as long as youannounce that Jesus Christ is
your Lord and Savior and allthat other stuff and forgiveness
for your sins.

Speaker 1 (01:20:01):
Yeah, I mean I'm not really worried about that.

Speaker 4 (01:20:03):
Neither am I.
So if the rapture happens today, do you think Jesus is going to
be looking for his people onthe hookah lounge?

Speaker 1 (01:20:09):
bro, that's the first place.

Speaker 4 (01:20:12):
He looks I'm just, I'm just kidding You're gonna be
joining Um yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:20:19):
I was gonna say something, then I forgot dude
because he brought up the hookahleave.

Speaker 2 (01:20:23):
Yeah, get out he takes off the headphones and
puts on his headphones.

Speaker 4 (01:20:27):
No, ethan, I'm just kidding.
Okay, I'm just kidding.

Speaker 3 (01:20:30):
We're kidding yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:20:32):
I'll remember, in like five minutes we were
talking about one world order, Ithink it has to do with
Revelation.
Rapture Revelation.

Speaker 1 (01:20:38):
Oh no with.
I think we're ramping up tohave a religious fight, not even
just in the us, I mean, I thinkthe other countries have been
fighting for a long time, likewell, look at iran and israel
right now yeah, I mean I thinkthey've been fighting for a long
time, but I think it's rampant.
The us is ramping up to havethat uh happen, happened, where

(01:21:02):
it's well pretty much christiansversus regular world people in
a way too I don't know if itreally necessarily clash of I
don't know if it helped.

Speaker 2 (01:21:10):
Didn't help with like how trump just basically took
care of uh, what was it?
It was uh, iran's nuclear powerplant thing, like he, like they
basically took care of it, likethey bombed it, pretty much, I
guess, and that way it wouldstop and like iran's, like you
know, ceasefire and all thisother crap, like I don't know if
that necessarily helped,because that would just irk me

(01:21:32):
more at that point if you wereiran, you mean, yeah, if I was
iran.
That would irk me more, eventhough, yeah, like it's it's a
weird kind of gray area for mepersonally on it.
But it it's like, okay, it'stheir fighting, so let them
handle it, we don't need to getinvolved because it's not our
thing.
But then it's like that's stilla bad thing because that's

(01:21:54):
innocent people getting hurtbecause two people don't know
how to settle a conflict.
So let's break it up withwhoever started it or whatever
happened.

Speaker 1 (01:22:04):
Dude, the fault is totally on Iran.

Speaker 2 (01:22:07):
Yeah, so I think.
Iran is paying the price rightnow for it.
But I feel like at that point,that's just adding more fuel to
the fire for Iran at that point,because they're going to be
like well, there was no reasonfor the US, do you know?

Speaker 1 (01:22:17):
what Iran looks like.
Yeah, it looks like crap now.

Speaker 2 (01:22:20):
It's crappy, is it?

Speaker 1 (01:22:22):
Yeah, is it?
Yeah, they were talking aboutlike buying the country and
making it like a lot better sopeople can leave, like the US.

Speaker 2 (01:22:30):
We don't, we have like how much?

Speaker 1 (01:22:32):
money, is it Buy it and like fix it all up and make
it into like a big resortcountry.

Speaker 2 (01:22:37):
We just need to fix America right now and not focus
on other people.
It's just like when they weregiving money to Ukraine, like
I'm america right now and notfocus on other people.
It's just like when they weregiving money to ukraine like I'm
sorry, why do we need to givehow many billions of dollars to
ukraine?
And then you get people ontiktok from ukraine saying, like
I just bought, you know, withthe us governments, like I'm not
even joking.
There was a girl that literallyis that war still going on?

(01:22:59):
I think so I haven't been payingattention.

Speaker 4 (01:23:00):
I don't really know.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure it isthey have there?

Speaker 2 (01:23:03):
there's a girl on tiktok that like got called out
and like, uh, the pen, and itfollowed a train down the line
that because all the money thatthe us government was sending to
them for like recovery orwhatnot, um, she was spending it
on like a new, new, like a newnew car and like the equivalent
of like a bugatti pretty much uh, over there in ukraine.

(01:23:25):
And then she was like buyingall these like fancy clothes and
stuff like that and she's gotlike a fancy condo or whatever
and it's like so our money cango towards that, but I can't
afford an apartment as a uscitizen.
Why are we giving our money tothese people?
I'm sorry that their place gotbombed by russia at that point I
mean, you're talking about likethree things there well, yeah,

(01:23:46):
but like, like one.

Speaker 1 (01:23:47):
The person stole the money, so it didn't even make it
to there and then why are wesending money in general?
What do you mean?
Stole the money?

Speaker 2 (01:23:55):
you just said she bought a car with it well, yeah,
it's the money that the us gaveto them.
Asa, ukrainian citizen, andthen she's oh, you can't.

Speaker 1 (01:24:03):
I thought it was a US citizen, no, ukrainian.
I was confused, sorry.

Speaker 2 (01:24:06):
Ukrainian citizen.
Yeah, she's sitting there andshe's buying all this fancy crap
.

Speaker 1 (01:24:10):
Well, yeah, we can't give them money and then tell
them what they do with the money.

Speaker 2 (01:24:13):
No, but at the same time it's like I guess.
Well, but at the same the shame, because again you have actual
us citizens that can't even buya house right now, like for me.
I was told that I need overfive thousand dollars to buy a
house.
Plus, like I mean, my creditlimit is, or my credit uh score

(01:24:34):
is like it's, it's better thanwhat it was.

Speaker 1 (01:24:34):
Wait, five hundred thousand dollars, no, five
thousand, oh yeah, no, I waslike five hundred dude

Speaker 4 (01:24:40):
that's crazy.
Sorry I got to turn this.
Open your ears.

Speaker 2 (01:24:44):
But yeah, no, $5,000 as a first-time homeowner to
purchase a house and I'm like,okay, cool, because I can come
up with that overnight.
And then at that point, you canno Dude are you a drug dealer.
But that's the thing.
I would have to work so muchovertime for it.
And if I'm really dedicatedI'll do it.
But at the same time it's likeI shouldn't even have to do that

(01:25:07):
, because back in the day, likeI'm not saying to go back to
like where you had to put $30down as a down payment on a
house, but like I think itshould be zero.
I would say yeah, as a firsttime homeowner.
I think Sure, If you, if yousign up, you have or something
like that, and then you justzero down payment.
But it's not going to be agreat three hundred thousand
dollar house, but like you couldget maybe something up to a

(01:25:28):
hundred, to hundred and fiftythousand.

Speaker 4 (01:25:29):
yeah you say that, uh like, we're the generation
that's not going to own housesno, we're definitely yeah,
because we don't make enoughmoney dude, do you think that
america is just going to go downfrom here?
Do you guys think that there'sany hope for?

Speaker 2 (01:25:46):
The only way that it would be able to go up and we
would be able to prosper is, Ithink, for one corporate
companies need to stop beingliterally greedy with all their
money.

Speaker 4 (01:25:57):
Well, that's not going to happen.

Speaker 2 (01:25:59):
But the thing is that is part of it.
It's because, yeah, you own amulti Like Jeff Bezos with
Amazon, right, there's no reasonwhy he needs to have that much
money and he can't pay peopleenough to even afford rent, you
know what I mean?
Like?
And he's even running most ofthe joint with robots, and he
has very minimal people.
So why not pay the minimalpeople that are working there

(01:26:21):
like maintaining the robots andlike cleaning up stuff?
Why not pay them more than whatthey're making right now, so
they can afford at least alivable wage to live in a house,
or an apartment, for thatmatter?

Speaker 4 (01:26:32):
Yeah, yeah, but billionaires have always existed
and before, like, middle-classAmerica could still afford a
nice house.

Speaker 2 (01:26:39):
Yeah, but now it's becoming even more greedy at
this point I mean to me at least, I mean hell.
We just had it where at ourstore we found out our CEO just
bought something like anotherboat or something like that.
It's like why did you need tobuy another boat when you have
like two already?
Why?
Why do you need three?

Speaker 1 (01:26:58):
Yeah, I think it's going to end up like that.

Speaker 2 (01:27:00):
That's where it's stupid.

Speaker 1 (01:27:01):
There's going to end up like that.
That's where it's stupid.
There's going to be no middleclass.
It's only going to be thehierarchy of the richest people.
Whatever Say it's 100,000,whatever it is, Then everybody
else is just dirt poor.

Speaker 4 (01:27:12):
Yeah, so we're going to be dirt poor.

Speaker 1 (01:27:14):
Yeah, and I would even argue that they're going to
make AI so good, oh.

Speaker 2 (01:27:19):
AI is terrifying.

Speaker 1 (01:27:21):
AI is going to be so good that literally just the
government's going to give youmoney and then that's what you
live on.
And that's what you have andyou're in houses, you kind of
pay for your house.

Speaker 2 (01:27:32):
But it's just all renting Duolingo.

Speaker 1 (01:27:37):
And you can't get out of that.

Speaker 2 (01:27:38):
What Did you hear about Duolingo with AI?

Speaker 1 (01:27:40):
No, what's?

Speaker 2 (01:27:41):
Duolingo.
They're getting rid of all oftheir employees and they
literally said ai first, sothey're replacing all their
actual national like people thatspeak whatever language you're
trying to do.
Lingo is an app that teachesyou different languages, so my
brother's using it for spanishright now, but he actually
removed the app because of it,because they're literally firing
every single employee andreplacing them with ai.

Speaker 1 (01:28:04):
So well, yeah, because the ai learned our
language, so we were giving themthe information that they need,
the ai needs, and then, oncethey have all the information
that they need, they don't needpeople anymore right, but then
that do it, then run the.

Speaker 2 (01:28:18):
What are we going to do?
They're not, the government'snot going to hand us like twenty
thousand dollars and be likehere's your monthly.

Speaker 1 (01:28:23):
I'm glad we're talking about this because, like
literally I've I've thoughtabout this the other day when I
was ready to go to bed.
Greatest ideas come before yousleep, right, um, and I was like
man.
What if they automated like agas station?
Right, so, you know inmcdonald's, you know in
mcdonald's, I heard that.
You know in mcdonald's, or in,uh, taco bell, they have like

(01:28:47):
the self checkout.
Okay, imagine that with a gasstation.
Now, people, there's nobody inthe gas station, you don't even
enter the gas station.
Okay, you go up to this, thisthing.
You say, hey, I want a monster,I want a I don't know debbie's
freaking donut.
Whatever you, whatever you say,hey, I want this, this and this
, guess what Robots.

(01:29:08):
All the products are like onthe ground or like refrigerated
if it needs to be refrigeratedand then the robots literally go
like they're kind of likelittle.
I've seen in a video likethey're kind of like claws but
they're like a little box thingand it goes over and it like
picks up what you know, what youneed, and then like it'll just
drop it, right, but goes furtherthan that if it runs out of

(01:29:30):
like product, right.
Say you have like 200 red bullsI don't know.
Say you get down to 50, oh, itsends the order automatically.
You don't need people to evenget anything from a gas station
anymore.
Hey, guess what?
It knows your age.
Oh, you want alcohol.
It knows what age you arebecause, like, it just takes a
picture of you or you, you knowyour phone checks it out.

Speaker 2 (01:29:51):
They have a store like that already.
Um, it's in california.
It's like a I don't know whatexactly it's called, but you
just walk it.
They have it in japan too,japan's way ahead of us and like
well, yeah, that's kind of.
I think china or japan wasalready, it is already doing
this they have a store where youcan walk in and there's no
cashiers or staff or anythinglike that and I would say you

(01:30:13):
don't even need to walk in youjust you walk in and they have
it where they have your bankinformation already in there and
whatever you put in that cart,there's a sensor and it scans
everything you put in and thentallies it up and you can just
walk out the door.

Speaker 1 (01:30:26):
I'm saying you're not , you're not even walking in,
like it's already grabbingeverything for you.
It's dropping in a drop boxliterally yeah, the drop box
literally opens for you.

Speaker 4 (01:30:37):
You just take it out saying you're excited for this.

Speaker 1 (01:30:40):
No, I'm not excited for this because it takes a lot
of jobs.
And even further, like, say, itdoes a order, guess what?
They grab that order.
Same kind of robot thing itputs in a truck automatically.
The automatic truck goes fromthere to the gas station,
automatically, refills it.

Speaker 4 (01:30:58):
Everything is automated how far off do you
think this is?

Speaker 1 (01:31:01):
20 years years.

Speaker 4 (01:31:03):
Yeah, I would say it's relatively close.

Speaker 1 (01:31:06):
Because, I think, they're already close in China
for automated.
Have you guys seen theautomated cars?
No, like moving of cars.
Yeah, have you seen this?
Okay, you have.
Okay so it's these puck thingsthat go underneath.
I don't know if you call them apuck.

Speaker 2 (01:31:22):
I call them a call them I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:31:23):
Like they're like a square thing that goes
underneath and like say you goand park your car.
Like say you lived here and youhave a parking garage, so like
you can just park your car, takethe keys with you, come in here
, you say, hey, my, my car'sdown there.
These robots come, they gounderneath your car without it
on, they put the these thingsunder the tires, lift it up,

(01:31:46):
just enough to like move it andit parks it for you.
And they're already doing thisat china, in china and they have
cars right now and it'sfreaking crazy so they're trying
to develop it too.

Speaker 2 (01:31:55):
We're like how there's already kind of like the
automated cars that like arelike an uber service kind of
thing, with like the 360 camerasabove and whatever else they
have.
There's ones that elon's tryingto do where it doesn't have
like as big of equipment.
Obviously on top, it's like allsensors all the way around the
car and it's just like a rentthing where it's like your

(01:32:16):
personal uber or grocery thing,where you just rent the car for
like however long you're usingit and it's electric, so it'll
just they'll find a station tocharge it at and stuff and you
could just it's an app.
You click like hey, I need togo to the store, let's, what's
the next available car.
The car will drive to yourlocation through the GPS and

(01:32:36):
it'll pick you up and you justobviously have to sit in the
driver's seat at that point,cause I think they're still
working it out where you have tohave somebody at least behind
the wheel for right now, untilthey like nail it down to a team
where you don't need to havesomebody behind the wheel and um
, then you just tell it where togo and your gps there's some
that there's some that you don'tsit in the driver's seat yeah,
you sit in the passenger seatit's crazy.

(01:32:58):
And then, yeah, and then thefunny part is I've seen videos
where, like, something happens,like with an accident, and then
it's like they blame.
They try to blame the company,but then they ultimately try to
blame the person that wassitting in the seat, because,
because it's a person thatthey're like, well they should
have been in the driver's seat.
And it's like because at thatpoint, if something fails, they
can still manually put on thebrakes, they can still manually

(01:33:21):
turn the wheel and everythinglike that, or manually gas it?

Speaker 4 (01:33:24):
I don't think.
Well, if they're going to becontrolled, there's not going to
be a wheel.

Speaker 1 (01:33:28):
No, well, it'll just be like an internal steering
mechanism when yeah when are yougoing to get to the point where
people aren't driving?
Then you'd have to have itwhere all the cars are talking
to each other I would say thetrucks are talking to each other
15, 20 years at years at thatpoint, because they're still
working on like.
I would say longer.
You would have to have thewhole generation.

(01:33:49):
Because I like driving.
Yeah Right, we like driving.
I think the generation after usis so enamored by automation
and technology that they're finewith not even driving, but we
aren't.
So I think they have to waituntil we die.
Pretty much I would think so,even driving, but like we aren't
, so I think they have to waituntil we die, pretty much, I
would say.

Speaker 4 (01:34:07):
At least get to that point then even too.
It's like what's going tohappen to people once ai takes
over that is.

Speaker 1 (01:34:11):
That's why I'm saying the middle class is going to
shrink and there's literallygoing to have nobody, and
everybody else at the top hasall the money when you know, too
, that there's an ai that'srefusing to shut itself off
right now and it's already triedto like pull some sketchy crap.

Speaker 2 (01:34:24):
It's I, I think it's like with like files and stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:34:26):
It's like it's funny that there's been so many movies
in the past about this kind ofblack mirror have you ever seen
the?
Netflix series black yeah, someof them.

Speaker 1 (01:34:34):
Which one are you talking about?

Speaker 2 (01:34:35):
there's there's like an episode of black mirror on
netflix.

Speaker 1 (01:34:38):
That like seen all of them.

Speaker 2 (01:34:39):
I forget what episode is, but there's like there's
one with AI, where it literallytakes over and it's like the
humans just don't have anythingto do at this point, and so it's
like then it becomes like anuproar and all this other crap,
and then it ends up turningagainst the humans, which I can
see.
I'm like, because right nowagain you have like AI that are
refusing to shut off.
There's even robots thatthey've built in the past that

(01:35:01):
have like been, I guess,prototype AI.
And they robots that they'vebuilt in the past that have like
been, I guess, prototype ai,and they've talked into a
different language that nobodycan actually understand, like
it's not like spanish oranything like that that we know
are an old language.
That's code.
It's like code and they weretalking about like the
extinction of humans and stufflike that.
So it's like okay, cool.
So we have ai already talkingabout offing all the humans.

(01:35:23):
And then we have it where againai is trying to take over
everything.
Like you got restaurants andautomobiles, you even got like
just even computer games andeven tiktok.

Speaker 1 (01:35:35):
Now I mean imagine if they just said hey, we're gonna
blow up all the phones and killeverybody that has a they could
do that right now if theywanted to.

Speaker 2 (01:35:42):
Even siri, I would as .
Ai at this point.

Speaker 4 (01:35:45):
That would be crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:35:46):
Like on iPhone and whatnot, like Caleb's getting
tired, he's getting tired, I'vebeen tired.
What time is it?
It's only 340.

Speaker 4 (01:35:54):
Yeah, I know I'm just .
I yawn and it's like oh,caleb's tired.

Speaker 1 (01:35:58):
Oh yeah, we got to go to Betty by.

Speaker 4 (01:36:07):
I'm just gonna buy.
No, I'm going to the gym um, ohyeah, getting swell cool yeah,
you're going climbing.

Speaker 2 (01:36:10):
Yeah, you're not going with me.
Why did it sound like an?

Speaker 1 (01:36:12):
insult.

Speaker 4 (01:36:12):
Yeah, you're going to want to go with me I don't know
, I was gonna go and upload thisepisode as soon as we get done
with this okay yeah anyways, wewere talking about yeah, yeah

Speaker 2 (01:36:21):
it's just, it's terrifying and how, and I've
shown you videos on TikTok.
It sounds weird, but they havea Bigfoot preaching the word of
gospel what, yeah, it's calledPreachfoot, preachfoot, yeah,
and then they have ones that arecooking with Bigfoot and it's
like he teaches you and showsyou how to make actual gourmet
meals and stuff and it looksreal as heck.

(01:36:42):
It's crazy on how like ai hasjust gotten and it's like a new
google.
Ai too that's the other part islike google's gotten way more
advanced.
Like I miss when ai used to bewell, like you could tell it was
fake and it was really bad, butnow even videos dude yeah well.
So here's an example right now.

Speaker 1 (01:37:01):
So videos, yeah, there's yeah videos and stuff
like the videos that are goingto be fake people.

Speaker 2 (01:37:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:37:05):
Like it's going to be so hard to discern who is real
people and not For me it kind ofalready is sometimes yeah, I'm
like, is this real or?

Speaker 2 (01:37:11):
not Right, because on the news too, you can
manipulate the crap out ofsomething Like they can make
Trump look like a bad guy andthey can make Biden a hero, or
vice versa.
They could make anybody makeanything.

Speaker 4 (01:37:23):
That's how I think that the world ends is they're
going to come up with some fakecatastrophe with AI, and people
are just going to go crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:37:32):
You see they're trying to push another variant
of COVID again and some othercrap.
That's happened.
They said the plague is comingback.
There was five people thatalready died in.
Where was it?
It was somewhere in the UnitedStates.

Speaker 1 (01:37:46):
But Jersey.

Speaker 2 (01:37:47):
I think what I have a friend in new jersey so there's
like five people that died ofwhat.

Speaker 1 (01:37:51):
They're not even saying what kind of plague it is
.

Speaker 2 (01:37:53):
They're not saying the black plague or whatever,
they're just calling it.
They died of a plague and it'slike cool.
Usually a plague means thatlike a lot of people, a lot, not
just five, but a lot of people,a lot, not just five, but a lot
of people have died from thisand have COVID.
When that was a thing,apparently the hospitals were
all full and everything likethat.

(01:38:13):
But then you get videos of somehospitals and they have nobody
in there.
It's like hmm, was COVID reallythat bad?
I hope plagues don't take us outas a human race at this point,
that'd be pretty terrible.
A zombie apocalypse is an order.

Speaker 1 (01:38:28):
Do you think we're gonna recognize, though, that?
Do you think we're gonnarecognize that?

Speaker 4 (01:38:34):
uh, that ai is like taking over and we're just gonna
stop using it I think yes andno depends on the person,
because there could be somepeople because there's other
countries that won't stop likeif we like.

Speaker 1 (01:38:45):
I'm pretty sure a lot of people in america want to
stop ai yeah but china andrussia are going to be like no
well, what if they keep onresearching ai and keep on
researching stuff, but like, asfar as like our phones and other
technology stuff.
We just stopped doing itbecause we realized it's

(01:39:06):
changing us.

Speaker 4 (01:39:08):
You really think that's going to happen?
They're going to get rid ofphones and AI.
I don't, no, I don't think thatthey're going to do that no.
I think they're going to keepgoing.

Speaker 2 (01:39:16):
They have to because at this point AI they said, oh,
it's done all these helpfulthings, it's discovered how to
do x, y and z, whatever, andthen they're not really pointing
out all the bad stuff, like mynews source, as dumb as it
sounds, is like tiktok and likesome other stuff, because you
don't hear about it on fox newsyeah, that's true, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:39:35):
It's like you don't hear them talking.
Do you hear them talking aboutai at?
All no, does it ever?
I don't really watch it like Iwatch news max, and they don't
actually really talk about iteither.
No Technology stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:39:47):
Daily Mail and everything else.
That's not really news, though.

Speaker 4 (01:39:49):
I don't know if it's it is news but it's not what you
don't think AI is news.

Speaker 1 (01:39:54):
I think it's news, but it's not like.

Speaker 4 (01:39:57):
Trump is like news.

Speaker 3 (01:39:59):
Yeah, it's not like breaking news.

Speaker 1 (01:39:59):
More government stuff is more news than like ai
itself is kind of off left field.

Speaker 4 (01:40:05):
You know left field yeah, but I mean I think I think
a lot of people know that ai isbad, but they can't stop
because nobody's.

Speaker 2 (01:40:15):
It's kind of like the nuclear bomb yeah, like they
don't.

Speaker 4 (01:40:18):
We don't want to have nuclear weapons, but we're not
going to get rid of them,because if we get rid of them
and then russia's the onlycountry with nuclear bombs.

Speaker 1 (01:40:25):
There's some AI that like, hey, it makes our life
better.
Like all this automation that Iwas talking about, you could
not do that and it wouldn'taffect China.
Like same thing with our phone.
Like that doesn't really affectus with China.
Because China might be able todo automation faster and
manufacturing faster than us butthen you also have it yeah but

(01:40:46):
they're still doing it like thegovernment is still doing that
behind the, behind the.

Speaker 2 (01:40:51):
You know, veil, you know if you do think about it
too, think about how terrifyingai can be is what happens if,
like the government's reallytrusting with this ai and like
they got nuclear weapons thatare just on a computer, that are
one button press away or oneprogram away from launching, and
if they decide to go with thiswhole, blow up the earth thing

(01:41:12):
I'm saying yeah, they're stilldefending that stuff and they
have like, they're still makingdrones, making better, better
things for the military, or likedefense wise, but they're not
like you know, like our phoneisn't.

Speaker 1 (01:41:27):
I don't know like we stopped making like tiktok and
facebook and all that.
We just stopped doing that.

Speaker 2 (01:41:34):
We'd just go back revert back to 1995 how did you
see how it was like when tiktokwas like shut down permanently
and like people were ben andjerry's the imagine if they just
let a march, just shut it yeah,yeah, just shut it down.

Speaker 1 (01:41:49):
Just figure it out, like people have to figure it
out, sorry, yeah, like we'reshutting down facebook, we're
shutting down well meta, you'reshutting down media everything
shut down.

Speaker 2 (01:41:58):
Yeah, I think it's ruined a lot.

Speaker 4 (01:41:59):
I think so yeah, I think we would survive without
it I think, it'd be like atfirst.

Speaker 1 (01:42:03):
I think we'd survive, but at the first like month
would be hit like not good Itell you what you know dating
would probably be, a lot easierword, but yeah I think the first
month would be that.

Speaker 4 (01:42:13):
But then when people start going back to talking to,
each other and forming realrelationships, and not well
seeing.

Speaker 2 (01:42:20):
Text and call is still there, but yeah, at the
same time, like you're not likeon bumble or tinder or anything
like that, like just swipingthrough pictures like you're
gonna have to get that out tomaybe google.

Speaker 4 (01:42:32):
Hey, speaking of dating apps, do you think dating
apps are ruining dating?
Yeah that's something we didn'ttalk about on the last episode
with andy, but now you're hereyeah, we can get some classic.

Speaker 1 (01:42:41):
Oh wait, you did or you didn't did not.

Speaker 4 (01:42:43):
We were going to, but then did you listen to that
episode at all?

Speaker 1 (01:42:46):
I did not I am I just listened to our last flannel,
which was in february so dudeyou are, so I am I am 200.
I looked the other day I'm 200podcasts behind this guy yep, I
should be.

Speaker 4 (01:43:01):
This podcast should be your number one.
I can't believe you.

Speaker 1 (01:43:04):
I know get out I I listen to seven podcasts, so I
know I can't keep up.

Speaker 4 (01:43:11):
Do you listen to all of joe rogan's?

Speaker 1 (01:43:15):
no, there's certain ones I don't like, sometimes the
fighting ones, I don't listento, because I think they're just
dumb.

Speaker 4 (01:43:20):
Besides the fighting ones, do you listen to all the
other ones?

Speaker 1 (01:43:23):
um yeah, except for sometimes.
Who's that guy?
Is it duncan trussell?
Yeah, I think I just don't likethe guys that when he dresses
up and stuff yeah, that's duncan.

Speaker 4 (01:43:32):
Yeah, yeah, I don't like that guy either I don't
know why I don't even listen toit anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:43:37):
Nice uh, what were we talking about?

Speaker 4 (01:43:39):
oh, yeah, yeah, uh, dating, yeah, so dating apps uh,
do you guys think that onlinedating apps have made your
dating experience better, worse,or stay the same?

Speaker 1 (01:43:49):
Worse.
They're bad for men, they'regood for women.

Speaker 2 (01:43:52):
I mean you can kind of argue with Are you going to
back that claim up?
Yeah, because I think it wasthe way you looked at it.

Speaker 1 (01:44:02):
You got to back that up so for men, I think it just
downgrades you, because like youdon't get any, like you don't
get any dates as a guy yeah, Imean, I have I mean one to two
percent of people that you hitup are probably gonna girls that
you at least.

(01:44:22):
I'm talking guys to girls andgirls guys, as far as that's
concerned, but so I I think thatthe percent you, the amount you
have to put out to, even like,get on a date, let alone
actually get to a relationship,yeah um, where girls I feel like

(01:44:44):
dude they could, they could geton there and I think within 10
they could probably get one dateyeah, yeah is that a fair
assessment?

Speaker 4 (01:44:53):
I'll say as well for me, like I hear that these guys
can't get dates, but I've alwaysgotten dates on the online
dating apps and the way that Ido it is, I don't look at you
you're beautiful.
No, I'm not.
I am not like, I am not in the.

Speaker 2 (01:45:08):
I mean look at you look at me okay bro look at me I
could lift my shirt into thetruffle shuffle right now and he
actually has?

Speaker 1 (01:45:15):
well, not quite yet.

Speaker 4 (01:45:16):
But um, anyways, you are talking to a gal yeah,
you're talking kind of, soyou're almost there I'll say,
though, before, like the way thewhat works and nobody listens.
As I say, all you have to do isthe first message hey, we
should go out oh, I agree, butguys don't do that, yeah, so
it's kind of it's kind of theirfault too.
They just like talk and be likeoh my gosh, that's so funny
yeah, I've done that a lot, yourprofile, it's so funny.

Speaker 1 (01:45:39):
I can, I can agree, I like your profile it doesn't
have to do with China.
I've done that on dating apps,where you just talk back and
forth for like a day, two daysand then you're like oh, yep and
then that's over.
Yeah, they get bored.

Speaker 4 (01:45:53):
Whereas if you just get straight to the point and
set the date, usually you'll beable to go on it.

Speaker 1 (01:45:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:45:57):
But I will say, like, the amount of matches I get are
low.

Speaker 2 (01:46:07):
And the matches I get are low, and the matches that I
do get are generally lowquality.
I have a question not gonnacall them ugly, because that's
mean.
What is this he missed?
I just noticed that there's achord dangly.

Speaker 4 (01:46:12):
I don't know that is to my pedal board, so it doesn't
even matter, okay cool.

Speaker 2 (01:46:16):
I was like I just felt a chord that I was playing
with because I thought it wasthis for a second and I was like
oh, this is unplugged yep,unplugged, but we can all hear
each other and this is stillgoing.

Speaker 1 (01:46:26):
This is still going so that's, that's how I back up
that, that yeah, and I've heardthat on.
I mean I just lost watch a lotof relationship reels, so I mean
that's kind of just from that Iagree because even though I've
gone on dates, like I said I, Idon't get a lot of matches.

Speaker 4 (01:46:47):
Gone on dates, like I said I, I don't get a lot of
matches, it's maybe like acouple a day, whereas women are,
they don't even they, theycan't even pick who to go on a
date with because they have somany matches right, yeah, guys,
hitting them up.

Speaker 2 (01:46:55):
Ultimately, at the end of the day, it is the female
that makes the decision ofwhether it's worth it or not to
go out with that person at theend of the day.

Speaker 4 (01:47:03):
well, there's day To be honest if girls could get
married.

Speaker 2 (01:47:06):
I feel like it's more rare for a guy.

Speaker 1 (01:47:09):
I think girls could probably get married a lot
easier if they chosemiddle-of-the-line guys.

Speaker 4 (01:47:16):
Do you agree, like us .

Speaker 1 (01:47:21):
Like Caleb, we're below Caleb.

Speaker 2 (01:47:27):
Stop selling yourself so short.
You've got to have thatconfidence boost, bro.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:47:32):
You have zero confidence sitting on the other
side of this table.

Speaker 1 (01:47:36):
I'm saying like six to eight range.

Speaker 4 (01:47:39):
I don't know, I might fall in that you don't think
you're at least a six?
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:47:43):
maybe, maybe I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:47:44):
I don't think you're at least a six.
Yeah, maybe I don't know, Idon't know.
I know Stefan thinks he's atleast a seven right.

Speaker 2 (01:47:50):
I would say at least a seven.
There you go.

Speaker 1 (01:47:52):
Actually, right now, since I've got Wait, you'd say
you're a seven.

Speaker 2 (01:47:54):
I would say I'm a seven.

Speaker 1 (01:47:56):
Or you'd say I'm a seven.

Speaker 2 (01:47:57):
I mean I would say you're like a negative seven,
but like no, I would say fromlike, just like from a guy's
perspective of like how I knowyou and stuff, from the
interactions that we have, Iwould say like you're a solid
like seven or eight, if I'mhonest with you.

Speaker 4 (01:48:14):
Oh yeah, I put myself in the same category.

Speaker 2 (01:48:16):
Yeah, Like I'm not.
I've written.
Nobody's a perfect 10 out of 10or anything like that, but like
dude no 10 is a.

Speaker 4 (01:48:27):
10 is like rosy, that's like zach afron before he
got all that surgery rightchris hemsworth chris hemsworth,
solid 10 yep, uh, yeah, it'd belike jack shepherd yeah, terry
cruz, the guys that you like,there's like influencers who
just have like that jawline,like that would be a 10.

Speaker 1 (01:48:42):
But anyways, I think girls like really go for that
top 10.
They die way too much.

Speaker 4 (01:48:48):
They see, the guys on instagram and those are like
instagram is only showing us,like, what the top one percent
of influencers who are like thebest looking have the best
quality, yeah and so, yeah, theydo go for those ones and, like,
those guys have a bunch ofoptions too.

Speaker 1 (01:49:05):
So, like, all these girls are going for them to be
honest, sometimes I don't even,I don't even like the ones that
are like really beautiful, likethe top, like nine tens, just
because I just I don't know, Ijust don't think that I would go
out with them.

Speaker 3 (01:49:20):
So I like go for the like six to eight.
It's intimidating.
It's not intimidating for me,bit I would say it is.

Speaker 2 (01:49:28):
I think a little bit, bro, if I had a girl that was
like a 10 out of 10 looking atme and everything like that and
I'm just like, why do I looklike chris?

Speaker 4 (01:49:35):
I'm not putting myself down intentionally, but
like I just like I'm a chrisfarley compared to like this uh,
maryland monroe, you know if ifa quote-unquote 10 out of 10
girl was looking at me andwanted to go on a date, I would
go out and I wouldn't be morelike.

Speaker 1 (01:49:52):
I just assume that they've been out with a lot of
guys, so I wouldn't like them Imean as in like having sex yeah
yeah, I just assume that they'vebeen with a lot of guys and
they're yeah, wow.

Speaker 4 (01:50:06):
I mean, is that shallow?
That's very direct.
That's a pretty judgmentalstatement there, Ethan.

Speaker 1 (01:50:12):
Yeah.
But, is it Like oh hi,beautiful.

Speaker 4 (01:50:15):
But is it?
You must have slept with 50guys, sorry.

Speaker 1 (01:50:18):
Is it possible that it's true?
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:50:20):
It's possible that it's true.

Speaker 1 (01:50:29):
But it true.

Speaker 4 (01:50:29):
Yeah, it's possible that it's true, but it's also
possible that you could get, isit pretty high a possibility
that?
It's true there's I would sayit's a pretty high possibility.
It's true that whales haveslept with a lot of guys too.

Speaker 3 (01:50:36):
Yeah, yeah, because there's that uh, there's like a
thing we're talking very worldlyyeah, it is talking very
worldly, but it's also, it is itis worldly

Speaker 1 (01:50:45):
yeah, but it also is true yeah, I mean yeah, you
don't really know, unless you goon a date I guess yeah and you
got to find that out sometimesthat that that can take some
time to figure out.

Speaker 4 (01:51:00):
That too yeah, because when do you ask that?

Speaker 1 (01:51:02):
yeah, do you ask for sing?

Speaker 4 (01:51:03):
so many guys have you .
But the problem too.
The problem too is, even thoughit's like worldly, there has
been like girls in church who'vealso slept with a lot of guys
and vice versa.

Speaker 3 (01:51:13):
Different breed yes, we talked about that on the last
episode, so we don't need toget too into it, but they're
different.

Speaker 4 (01:51:20):
We could also go down like what you think of that um
and vice versa.
There's also been a lot of guysat church, too, who have also
slept with a lot of girls, soit's like I guess you could say
it's worldly thinking, but atthe same time it's like it's
happening in the majority ofchurches too.
They're just not really like.
They're not wearing their bodycount on their sleeve.

Speaker 1 (01:51:40):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:51:50):
Like they do, like the, the whatever podcast,
whatever it's called, rightwhere they're like almost
bragging about it, but women inchurch are keeping it on the
down low.
They have to have that moral ofI'm a good christian woman and
I'm saving myself for marriagekind of thing, or for the right
one at that, at the very leastyeah, but they're keeping it on
the down low yeah, and then theyfind out later yeah, but yeah,
you've

Speaker 1 (01:52:06):
kind of been lying to them, which is also a sin you
are right.

Speaker 2 (01:52:09):
But like are you gonna?
Because you can.
You can argue the same thing,with like a guy and a girl
perspective on even like sex atthat point that we kind of
talked about.
Just touch base on that is likeyou could have a girl that
sleeps with like 50 guys butlike she's probably the most
loyal girl out there and theguys are players, and same thing
with a guy.
You can meet a guy that's likeslept with 50 women but he could
be like the most loyal guy tooout there.

(01:52:31):
But then you get a girl that'svirgin and you're like I don't
want to touch that because she'svirgin, she's unexperienced,
but a girl will also do the samething to a guy.

Speaker 1 (01:52:38):
Oh, he hasn't gotten any, so I'm not gonna go with
that I think the assessment iswrong, but I I'm not trying to
be like well, I'll say this,mean I think I think it's kylie.

Speaker 2 (01:52:49):
My first ex did not want to originally date me
because she found out that I wasvirgin yeah, but that, yes, but
that's the guy.

Speaker 4 (01:52:57):
Wouldn't you call that a worldly relationship?

Speaker 2 (01:53:00):
maybe nowadays, now that I think about it more,
you're going to tell me that itwas a Christian church-filled
relationship.

Speaker 1 (01:53:07):
No.

Speaker 2 (01:53:07):
I'm not saying that.

Speaker 1 (01:53:08):
Wait, yes, I agree with you.
Okay, I agree with half yourstatement.
Yeah, that girl to guy.
It is way more valuable thatyou actually had sex with like
at least five women, Right, Idon't know why that is.

Speaker 4 (01:53:21):
Yeah, you're not arguing for what should be.
You're arguing for what isright, huh?
You're not arguing for whatshould be.

Speaker 1 (01:53:33):
You're arguing for what is so like.
Women shouldn't think that way,but they do.
Yeah, I'm saying yeah, they dotoo.

Speaker 2 (01:53:36):
But well, no with guys, no because guys is more
valuable for them to be a virginway more a guy to be virgin no,
a girl to be a virgin well, Imean yeah, but like, even if
like again, that's where mystatement comes in is like, if
you've even slept with, like, ifyou're a girl and you slept
with two guys at that point orwhatever, because you went into
a relationship, you thought itwas like the same kind of thing,

(01:53:56):
it was a great one.
And then you meet another guywho, yeah, maybe he slept with a
couple, and then he finds outthat she's only slept with two
people.
He's going to be like, okay,yeah, she's experienced, but I'm
not 100% sure.
Or he's going to be like, no,she's already used up at that
point.
But the virgin thing too issome guys are very picky and

(01:54:17):
they're just like you don't knowwhat you're doing.
I dated a virgin.

Speaker 1 (01:54:21):
Most guys don't care if they have zero experience.

Speaker 2 (01:54:24):
I know that because they're not thinking with the
right head at that point,they're thinking with another
head too.
It's not just like one headversus the other, it's it's both
.
They're thinking with that.
I have that.

Speaker 4 (01:54:34):
Like as cringes it sounds.
I have yet to meet a guy thatdid not want a virgin woman.

Speaker 2 (01:54:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:54:47):
So what he's saying is like women don't judge men
the same way that men judgewomen.
Yeah, so men, men will judgewomen based on how many people
they've slept with.
Yeah, and look at it as adownside whereas women.

Speaker 1 (01:54:54):
Look at how many men or how many women the guy has
slept with, but look at as anupside I got yeah because primal
brain thinking with women arelike okay, he slept with a lot
of women so he must be a player,he must be like something, he
must have something that I want,yes, right now, I'm not saying
that's the way that it should be, I'm just saying right what is

(01:55:16):
so I'm not arguing that thatshould be correct.
I'm just saying that is correctbecause that's how yeah, and
then if it's reversed, the guyis like a virgin and the girl
has slept with like, let's justsay, even five.
He looks at her kind of likewell yeah, she's a hoe like
you're.
You're kind of a throwawaytrash bag, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:55:37):
Like that's kind of gross yeah like I mean yeah, I,
I'm not saying I'm saying thatYou're arguing for what it is.

Speaker 1 (01:55:46):
You're not arguing for what should be.
I mean, unfortunately, that'sjust how it goes Now, if you get
over 200, that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:55:52):
Yeah, but even too.
There are some guys I don'tknow if this really goes in for
it too, but like there are someguys I don't know how they are,
but like I've been with a girlthat's had a kid like, so what
do you think about that wise,like if you've already had a kid
, kind of thing, like becausethat also has a factor, I feel
like to a degree I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:56:12):
I feel like the church is always trying to push,
like, oh, you gotta love heranyway.
As a single mom, it's like no,I don't know same thing with
like how I would run, to behonest if a girl had a kid.

Speaker 2 (01:56:23):
I just don't, I don't want to be put.

Speaker 1 (01:56:24):
If a girl had a kid.
I just don't.
I don't want to be put in thatposition Because think about it
from the kid's perspective.

Speaker 2 (01:56:30):
Stepdaddy Ethan Exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:56:33):
Stepdad.
Yeah, I mean, then the kid hastwo dads.
It's awkward.
I don't want to get into that.
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:56:42):
It's so hard.
I would want to know in depth,like the divorce story, like why
did you get a divorce, how longhas it been?
And even after that it's like Istill don't really want to take
on someone else's kid yeah,it's so much harder yeah, it's
just.
It's just harder because thatkid's got to get accustomed to
you and it can happen over years, but it's just not an easy.

Speaker 1 (01:57:08):
The former dad could be a jerk.

Speaker 2 (01:57:10):
Could be a psycho, but then that would be your time
though, to step in and be likehey, I'm a cool dad.

Speaker 1 (01:57:16):
Yeah, what if he?

Speaker 2 (01:57:16):
wants to kill you.
I'll tell you this much, I willsay from experience I almost
did date a girl.
Her name was Elizabeth and shewas in uh, where was it?
What state was she in?
I don't know it was.
It was like probably a fourhour, five hour difference or
whatever.
And she had two kids.
One was like my nephew's ageand then my niece's age like
toddler whatever at the time.

(01:57:37):
And so I was like you know, Ihonestly I don't have kids of my
own, but I have a niece andnephew.
So I mean, like, as long asthey're cool and they'd be all
right with that, like eventuallymean them seeing each other and
this works out, then cool.
And then she, as soon as wewere about to meet, and I was
gonna go meet halfway with her,um she's a kid with you.

(01:57:57):
No, she told me that herex-husband, that she was in the
process of divorcing at thattime, which she failed to
mention.

Speaker 1 (01:58:05):
Um was very.
That's another thing.
That was very.
That's incorrect.

Speaker 2 (01:58:09):
And don't tell you fast enough wait till you're
fully divorced and then do it.
But that that was the thing islike she told me that, like he's
very protective of her still,even though he cheated on her
and is getting married toanother girl.
He doesn't want anybodytouching his ex-wife, and it's
like that's not how the realworld works he's just messy
right and so it's like, and thenat that point I told her I said
, yeah, I, I'm gonna have topass on that.

(01:58:30):
Like I appreciate you fortelling me eventually, but at
the same time, if you would havetold me at the beginning, like
I still would have probably beenfriends with you something like
that, maybe if it was like twoyears after a divorce yeah,
maybe the guy was like prettyfar out of the way, and then
yeah, but the child is maybe six.

Speaker 4 (01:58:49):
People get divorced and then they're like used to
that married life, so they'retrying to fill that void right
away yeah, it's rebounded trueand I think that's why the bible
is so strict on divorce, isbecause, like, look at how messy
they always are yeah even likebefore, during and after the
divorce.
It's like there's a reason whyhe says to stay together.

(01:59:09):
Yeah, I think.
Obviously there arecircumstances where it's just
what if?

Speaker 1 (01:59:14):
instead of a divorce.
We didn't have divorce anymorewe just killed him.
Yes, and one of the person hadto die.
Like, imagine if it was likethat.

Speaker 2 (01:59:25):
Whoever makes the lowest income.

Speaker 4 (01:59:29):
Whoever has more speeding tickets.

Speaker 1 (01:59:32):
You go to court for a death sentence.

Speaker 2 (01:59:35):
That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:59:36):
You go to court and you say which one is the worst
you have the most informationabout the other person.

Speaker 4 (01:59:41):
I bet women would still get the divorce.
Hold on, you think?
Yeah, I think they'd be like Idon't know.

Speaker 1 (01:59:46):
There's some jerk women out there that you can get
a lot of information, if youtry.
Yeah, but here's the thing Ithink it's all not brought to
the court Because guys want toprotect them and they have that
protective instinct and theyjust don't want to record all of
that.

Speaker 2 (02:00:00):
But those jerk women also get alimony, they get
custody of the kids and they getlike a bunch of other benefits
that the guys don't.

Speaker 1 (02:00:07):
It is yeah, because I think the guys aren't bringing
the information to the courtright.

Speaker 2 (02:00:11):
But the guy can have all the proof he wants and the
court's still going to side withthe woman because she's a woman
divorce courts usually sidewith that bad yeah, it's really
that bad yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:00:20):
Why do you think most ?
Why do you think most divorcesare caused by the women?
Why do you think because theyknow they're going to get the
most out of why?

Speaker 1 (02:00:26):
do you think the marriage rate is going down
because?

Speaker 4 (02:00:28):
of that, because of that, because people don't want
to get divorced yeah, it's likethat's crazy there's less
divorces in america now becausethere's less marriages happening
.

Speaker 2 (02:00:36):
There would be a guy there, there are guys out there
that, like they know that their,their wife is cheating on them
it is what's happening.

Speaker 1 (02:00:43):
I know it's a true statistic.

Speaker 2 (02:00:44):
There's guys that know that their wife is cheating
on them and whatnot, andthey've been married for maybe
20, 30 years and they're likeI'm not going to get a divorce,
so I'm just going to let her doit, even though I know, and I'm
just going to pretend likeeverything's fine.
I couldn't do that, though.

Speaker 1 (02:00:58):
No, I wouldn't be what if it wasn't a court thing
where they just like well, theyfought and one died.

Speaker 4 (02:01:06):
Like where you get to go in the boxing ring and spar
with each other.
Yeah, I don't know, that'd befun.

Speaker 1 (02:01:14):
No but that's you just get to kill your spouse if
they're freaking crazy.

Speaker 2 (02:01:17):
You know, in like traditional other places like
Africa, for example, like ifyour husband or wife, I think
it's if the husband dies, thewife is supposed to be.
I don't know if they do itanymore, but it was something
that I learned um a while ago,but basically it's a tradition
and tribes you marry, you marrythe brother, no you oh you.

Speaker 1 (02:01:37):
That's actually as the woman.

Speaker 2 (02:01:38):
If your husband dies or something happens, wise,
you're supposed like they floathis body on fire in a casket.
And you're supposed you eitherchoose, you get uh, was it
exiled from the tribe thatyou're in, if you don't choose
to burn alive with your husbandin the casket, regardless of how
old or young you are why didyou bring that up?

(02:01:59):
That's crazy well, because ofthe whole thing where it's just
like, you know how it seems likeit was saying you want that to
happen here.
It made more sense of thecontext way earlier before we
went into like how?

Speaker 4 (02:02:09):
the women get more like benefits after a divorce
Sounds like they don't reallyget the benefits in that.

Speaker 2 (02:02:14):
No not in that, but like there's different parts of
the world, it's because ofdedication towards the other,
the other person there,essentially it would yeah person
there essentially it would yeah, there was something we were
talking about earlier where itmade way more sense before now
that's okay.
I do that all the time I talkabout stuff like way bad but
like that's how messed up thatarea is and it's like I don't
feel like that's fair to thewomen, just like it's not fair

(02:02:34):
to the men in this case.
For why?
Why does the womenautomatically get the right to
have the kids, or alimony, oreverything?
dude, I would be so angry Iwould too, like if I was a good
husband and like father andwhatnot.
And then I found out, like if Igot divorced and my wife was
getting like half the house andshe was getting like half my
income and I was gonna have topay child support on top of that

(02:02:55):
like, and.
But I was the one that watchedthe kids all day after I got out
of work and she just went homeand partied and did whatever and
it was proven like the court'sstill going to find it in her
favor because she's I thinkthey're making it harder, though
, to get 100 custody hopefully,I think it's more like a 50, 50
like three and four, three daysand four days.

Speaker 1 (02:03:17):
Obviously they can't split it.
Well, right, exactly middle.

Speaker 2 (02:03:20):
But with my brother being divorced.
He's obviously taking care ofhis kids full-time and still
worked full-time, and the wifehas not or the ex-wife she just
hasn't really done.
I mean, she does still take herkids every now and again, but
she doesn't do anythingfull-time with them yeah and I
don't think she wanted to, ifI'm honest with you.
So I don't know 100 well, it'ssaid yeah, but that's just what

(02:03:45):
I go off with what I seevisually.
So I know that she loves herkids and whatnot, but at the
same time it's like you're notwanting to take care of them
full-time or help contribute tothe family at that point, to
that extent of full-time.
So my brother said he could gofor child support if he wanted
to, but he's not going to.
Yeah, so I'm like at that pointI feel like maybe he should, I
for child support if he wantedto, but he's not going to.

Speaker 1 (02:04:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:04:05):
So I'm like at that point I feel like Maybe he
should.

Speaker 1 (02:04:08):
I don't feel like there's he should.

Speaker 4 (02:04:09):
Yeah, he should.

Speaker 1 (02:04:10):
I think in his case currently, right now, he should,
because he could be gettingmore income coming in the house
and not, you know, I don't gethow they made this rule of like
if you're the full-time worker,that all of a sudden, since
you're the breadwinner, theother person yeah you have to
pass, yeah you, you have to payfor, but then also they get the
kids.
It's like that's crazy yeahit's dumb, be like wait.

(02:04:31):
I support this.

Speaker 2 (02:04:32):
So I then I get no benefit, zero benefit, right
zero well, because that's whathappened with my dad when my
parents got divorced too is likemy dad had to pay child support
up until we were 18 years old,and it's like he had to work
like two, three jobs just to beable to do that, and it's just
like, yeah, he I mean, we onlysaw him like two days a week,
and that was on saturday andsunday, and that was every other
saturday and sunday too yeah sotwice a month we got to see our

(02:04:55):
dad pretty much if you're justcounting the two days as one
whole thing I think it's.

Speaker 1 (02:04:59):
It's also sad, like when women want the kids but
then they just go out and partyso it's like you ruined actually
like three lives.
You ruined the husbands, andthen you ruined also the kids
because they're not gettingtaken care of and hers
technically, yeah, and you'reruining and yourself yeah like
that's so, and everyone aroundyou has to hear about your
ex-husband 24 7 he's such a jerklike people that say that I'm

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just like you should really lookin a mirror.
Yeah, he's such a um, yeah,yeah yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:05:33):
But why do you think women are always filing for
divorce?
Because they say they're neverhappy 70 of women in a
relationship have a backup planand 50% of them who are married
have a backup plan Like a guythey know.

Speaker 1 (02:05:49):
Cause they definitely aren't loyal.
I guess that's what it soundslike, I feel.
I mean, that sounds like aloyalty accountability on the
guy's part.

Speaker 2 (02:05:56):
Yes.

Speaker 4 (02:05:57):
Let's go down that route, cause I think, like a lot
of women, even women, causelike guys always complain, like
women only want the rich guys,but then they're cheating on the
rich guys like some hot dudewho might not have that much
money right so I think, like alot of times, guys, when they're
like obsessed with somethinglike football, like they have

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their man cave or whatever, andthey they put that first, or
they're always watching tv, likethey come to a point where,
like the guy gets too complacentin life and I think the women
kind of start to fall out oflove with them.
Well, yeah, is that fair ifyou're just sitting.

Speaker 2 (02:06:32):
Here's the thing I would say it's fair at at one
point.
If, if you've had multipletalks with the husband about
like hey, you're watching toomuch tv, you're not spending
time with me or just me and thekids, depending on what their
situation is with their familyand he still refuses to do it
and he's just on the tv again,then yeah, I would say at that
point fair game is fair gamebecause he's not putting in the

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effort to like try to help fixnot only himself but the family.
At that point, yeah I mean hechose that commitment with you.
Know you may kiss the bridetill death, do us part kind of
thing.
You're not contributing to themarriage or anything like that.
So if you're not going to trywhen it's been talked to you on
multiple occasions then yeahthen game is game at that point.
But if you don't talk about itand you're just cheating or

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doing whatever at that point,then no, then that's not fair
game at that point, because thenlater on, after you're like
well, I found out that you're.
Cheating is ever fair game, it'snot, but, but maybe leaving
like breaking up, or yeah,cheating is never fair game, I
mean I would say cheating in theevent that it's like a domestic
violence issue at that point,and then that way you can just
kind of get out the door if youfound somebody better.

Speaker 1 (02:07:41):
Wrong doesn't equal another wrong, though I like.

Speaker 2 (02:07:44):
I know, but it's like there's certain great you get
out of the door first, and thenyou go and have a relationship
with somebody else I think Idon't know why we do.

Speaker 1 (02:07:52):
I don't know.
I don't even know how that'slike my mindset.

Speaker 2 (02:07:54):
I don't know why, I don't know.
I know we're talking aboutmarriage, but my mindset I think
it just went to like if you'redating at that then break up
with them.

Speaker 4 (02:08:01):
It's even easier yeah , that's true.

Speaker 1 (02:08:02):
You could just literally like end it right yeah
, and then go out with somebodyelse especially, oh yeah, people
that have two.
They're dating two people atthe same time.
How do you do that?
I?

Speaker 2 (02:08:11):
hate that I'm like I don't get how people date
multiple people at once and thencome up with like oh, I
actually like this guy, like thebachelor, you know, like
there's seven women.

Speaker 3 (02:08:20):
I know it's.
I know it's fake.

Speaker 2 (02:08:22):
But it's like you know you have like 12 women that
you're seeing all at once andit's like that is too confusing
for me, like because you get adifferent vibe off each woman.
And then it's like, even withthe bachelorette you got like 12
guys and you're trying to get avibe off them and it's like
that's just weird.
I'm sorry, that's playerattitude right there.

Speaker 1 (02:08:40):
A hundred percent, like for me yeah, why do you
think they never make it exactlyum, but to answer your question
.
Finally, to answer yourquestion, I I agree with what
stefan said.
It's like it's all back tocommunication, because you can
have that on either side eitherthe guy side, like literally
doing nothing for therelationship.

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Or you can have the woman.
That's like I'm just sittinghere amazon and ordering stuff
doing nothing you know?

Speaker 4 (02:09:08):
yeah, I'm just talking from the point of view
that, like, more times the womanis cheating, more times the
woman is filing for divorce, andI think it's because the men
are doing stupid stuff likewatching tv and they're not
spending quality time with her.
And then the time that they arespending they're like watching
TV and they're not spendingquality time with her, and then
the time that they are spendingthey're like on their phones.
Both parties could be on theirphones.

Speaker 1 (02:09:29):
Yeah, but that's also women thinking that they're
communicating with their man.
But they're communicatingeither wrongly or they're not
communicating.

Speaker 4 (02:09:37):
What do you mean?

Speaker 1 (02:09:38):
Either they're communicating not how a guy
would like to them, in that way,which I think is a lot of the
problem, or they're not, orthey're just not communicating.
Oh, he should read my mind.
What does that sound like?
Yeah, that I hate.
That sounds like You're notcommunicating at all to him.
You should know I need you.

Speaker 4 (02:10:00):
You should kind of figure out how women work.
Because, women do workdifferently than men do
emotionally.
They're not going to come outright and tell you exactly what
the problem is.
You kind of have to talk tothem.

Speaker 2 (02:10:11):
But why is it a game every time?

Speaker 4 (02:10:13):
Because they're run by emotions.
And when you start tounderstand that, you're like oh
okay, if I want to play a game,I'm gonna go play mario odyssey
on my switch.

Speaker 2 (02:10:26):
I'm not gonna like play a game, but if you want, if
you want a woman to be a woman,you got to expect her to work
emotionally different.

Speaker 1 (02:10:29):
Yeah, like I, I agree guys need to, like, like,
understand women, but women alsohave to understand guys,
because I feel like there's nota balance there well, if you
like, work on trying tounderstand them.

Speaker 4 (02:10:40):
Like if you pay attention to things, like when a
woman is mad at you for nottaking out the garbage, usually
she's not actually mad about younot taking out the garbage.
It could be that you were off,run into work and you forgot to
say I love you and she doesn'tknow how to like say that
outright because she's a woman.
They just, yeah, operatedifferently and you're kind of
weird yeah, yeah.
Well, relationships aren't easyI know, but like guys are so

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much more simple-minded likewe're just going to tell you how
it is, and it's like that'swhat we want yeah, but I think
women have to be more led bytheir emotions, because it
really lets them be empathetic,especially when dealing with
children.
Yeah, and that's where thatcomes from.

Speaker 2 (02:11:18):
I agree, the empathy that I felt from all the women
that I've been with has not beengreat Okay.

Speaker 4 (02:11:23):
I didn't say women, all women.

Speaker 2 (02:11:24):
Not all women.

Speaker 4 (02:11:26):
I didn't say that every woman.

Speaker 1 (02:11:27):
Every woman that you date doesn't have that no.

Speaker 2 (02:11:32):
Just kidding, I'm just saying too, it's like I get
where you're coming from withit, but it's like the whole
empathy thing, like again again.
I know not all women arenon-empathetic, but like the
encounters that I personally hadthrough my years of dating,
they just don't care and it'slike, okay, if so.
Like again with my ex-fiancewhen we were about to get
married, communication was ahuge thing that we talked about

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and I said I want you tocommunicate.
If you're mad at me, I want youto tell me why you're mad at me
directly.
I don't want you to sit hereand beat around the bush or like
, be like and then just like.

Speaker 4 (02:12:03):
Also, you have to be honest, were you the best
version of a masculine man thatyou were when I tried to?

Speaker 2 (02:12:09):
be for sure, and I know and here's the thing is she
did actually follow that wholecommunication thing.
She was honest about if, if Idid something that like upset
her, like it.
There was one time where I toldher I'd call her after I got
out of work so we could hang out, and I ended up passing out on
the couch or whatever, and thenshe called me because she didn't

(02:12:29):
hear from me and then I calledher back and it was like eight
o'clock at night and I was likeI'm sorry, I literally passed
out and I should have called youright away, even if I would
have crashed on your couch.
She goes well.
I sorry, like I.
I literally passed out and Ishould have called you right
away, even if I would havecrashed on your couch.
You know she goes well.
I was really looking forward toseeing you tonight and you kind
of disappointed me and I waslike I messed up, like I'm sorry
.
Is there anything I can do tomake it up for you at that point
?
Communication is just huge inany kind of thing friendships,

(02:12:50):
relationships, everything well,sounds like she communicated
with you, doesn't?

Speaker 4 (02:12:54):
she did so.
It doesn't like.
Where's the lack of empathy?

Speaker 2 (02:12:57):
No, the empathy is.
I mean, I'm giving her theempathy and I'm like, is there
anything I can do?
What can I do to help you knowthat kind of thing.
And then even with her, likeshe's like I get it, like you
worked like a 12 hour shift,kind of thing you know, Cause I
did.

Speaker 4 (02:13:09):
I worked from like 3am until like it sounds like at
that in that instance, yeah shewas, but it was again with how
we had to talk aboutcommunication.

Speaker 2 (02:13:19):
I'd rather you tell me instead of just like if you
didn't call me and then didn'trespond to my you know phone
call that I tried to call backto you and then you waited a
week until we next hung out andthen been like well, you
remember last week, like somewomen will do that crap too,
they'll hold yours from like 40years ago and it's just like
well, yeah, for some reason itwasn't you that did it, but 40

(02:13:39):
years ago like somebody got hitand so that's your fault yeah, I
mean, if you make yourself likea mountain of a man and I don't
mean like big and burly, I meansomebody who's just not swayed
that easily right then women andstuff like that don't really
bother.

Speaker 4 (02:13:54):
you just kind of like rolls off your shoulder and
you're like, yeah, whatever, youkind of play around with it a
little bit and you just have funwith it.
That's what I think thesolution is.
Yeah, you still have like abackbone and you stand up for
yourself in situations.

Speaker 3 (02:14:08):
Yeah, I agree, I was waiting for it.

Speaker 1 (02:14:14):
I think also like why divorce happened.
What we're?

Speaker 2 (02:14:23):
laughing at your response.
Oh yeah, it was like the pauseand the short response yeah, it
was yeah I was kind of thinkingabout something else.

Speaker 3 (02:14:30):
That's why yeah, that's fine, I'm sorry.
Well, don't listen to me.

Speaker 1 (02:14:34):
No, no, on the same, on the same note.
I think what happens withdivorce rate, why it's so high,
is because I think love kind offalls off, like I think a lot of
divorces happen at the two tofive year mark because it love
kind of falls off.
You kind of have that, like youknow that fresh love, yeah,

(02:14:55):
this is great.

Speaker 3 (02:14:55):
And then it kind of just yeah, it's like the
honeymoon phase runs out, yeah,and then real life hits and I,
it's like the honeymoon phaseruns out, yeah, and then real
life hits and I think a lot ofpeople can't handle it.

Speaker 1 (02:15:05):
And you know what?
Scientists have found out?
That, like hey, people thatactually have like religion and
like structure to theirbackground actually stay
together more often than peoplethat don't, which is kind of
crazy.

Speaker 4 (02:15:18):
Yeah, but it still happens.
I would say frequently withinthe church yeah, I wouldn't say
it's as much, I don't think itdoes.

Speaker 1 (02:15:25):
I wonder if you did a stat on that, how much
different it would be.
I think it's like probably what?
50%?
I would say 80% of the divorcesare outside the church and 20%
in the church.
I'll just say for me, likethat's, that's what.

Speaker 4 (02:15:43):
I would think that the numbers okay, then, and that
, if that's true, then why arepeople like you and I, who
attend church regularly, havingsuch a hard time even finding
somebody to date?
You're staring at me.

Speaker 2 (02:15:54):
Yeah, I don't know, that's because I'm thinking
about the question well, andthen for me too it's like I've
dated, dated two Christian girlsthat go to church, and it's
like they both are, like wedidn't stay together, clearly,
because they all decided to gotheir own separate route and
went totally against what thewhole point of like at least
being together is, you know.

Speaker 4 (02:16:14):
Cause I would say like dating women in the church
has been awful for me.

Speaker 2 (02:16:21):
Yeah, you would say, like dating women in the church
has been awful for me.
Yeah, you would.
You'd be better off findingsomebody on tinder than going to
like a church.

Speaker 1 (02:16:26):
Well, yeah, you know what I mean, though it's not
like literally finding somebodybetter on tinder, but it's like
you literally can find somebodybetter anywhere else I think
there's a lot of factors thatfactor into why, like one of
them being I'm just a weird guyyeah, but weird is better
sometimes yeah, weird is betterlike and I like being alone and

(02:16:46):
I don't really care yeah, so forme, like I don't know me
personally, is this like I, Imean, I don't go out of my way
to even talk to girls yeah,neither do I so like yeah how am
I supposed to even judgeanybody, except for maybe myself
?
yeah in that way.
Um, I also.

(02:17:07):
I mean, there's so manyvariables there because, like,
depending on the woman, likemaybe she's going around doing
stupid stuff and not even doingfollowing what god's plan is for
her either.

Speaker 4 (02:17:20):
Yeah, that's where I was kind of going.

Speaker 1 (02:17:21):
And then once she goes into her plan, and then she
gets married.

Speaker 2 (02:17:24):
Oh, that's crazy dude , They'll wait until they're
like 30 and then they'll be likeI'm ready to settle down.

Speaker 1 (02:17:29):
Or why is society's pressure is still there too,
like you just said, 30 years old, that society's pressure is
still there, even though we'rein a church.
Years old, that societypressure is still there.

Speaker 4 (02:17:40):
even though we're in a church, it's still like, hey,
go and make money and don't beunder this pressure of, uh, the
hierarchy of men yeah I meanyeah, I think that the church,
the the majority of churchesactually, I should say like the
bigger churches, the ones thatget all all the people yeah, we
know who you're talking about.

Speaker 3 (02:17:56):
Yeah well there's more, there's.
There's more than just that.
One is what I was getting at.

Speaker 4 (02:18:01):
Yeah, but that one Our very yeah, but that one,
that one is, I would say, quiteinfluenced by the world in a lot
of aspects.
Like you said, the societalpressure of career chasing, you
know, motherhood is not beingpushed.
Marriage isn't really beingpushed in these, they're not

(02:18:23):
really.

Speaker 1 (02:18:25):
Where's the teaching about how to get married as a
young adult in the generationthat we live?

Speaker 2 (02:18:32):
in.

Speaker 1 (02:18:32):
Nowhere, nowhere Exactly.
It's not in the church.

Speaker 4 (02:18:35):
That's what I'm saying.
It's not in the church, it'snot in the church, there's
nobody teaching it.

Speaker 1 (02:18:40):
The generations before us didn't have this thing
yeah they didn't have, likesome of the, how many things
have changed since, like rightthe 90s?
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (02:18:52):
Nobody has a guidebook for that no, you just
kind of have to wing it and hopefor the best in that point.

Speaker 1 (02:18:57):
The older generation doesn't have a guidebook because
they're like I, I don't know.
I just dated somebody in myhometown.
I mean, both of my parents werefrom Sparta.

Speaker 4 (02:19:06):
We were high school sweethearts, I mean we met at
church you know, yeah, yeah, Ithink that the phones are
definitely a problem, but I also, I think, that like being
satisfied truly in.
Jesus hasn't really been fullytaught at a lot of churches, at
least not the way that it shouldbe.

(02:19:26):
Yeah, because if, if you'resatisfied, like like you or I
would be, like I'm notconstantly on my phone looking
at different women that I couldpossibly be with, it's like I
want a real relationship.
I know I said the other day thatsometimes I download the dating
apps, but that doesn't mean I'mnot going on dates trying to
find somebody yeah, which datingapps you can still lead you to

(02:19:47):
a person.

Speaker 1 (02:19:48):
That isn't correct, so and and even when I?

Speaker 4 (02:19:51):
yeah, but they can also lead you to someone who is
christian yeah, yeah, that'swhat I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (02:19:57):
Oh, we lead you to christian somebody that's in the
church.
I misheard.

Speaker 4 (02:20:00):
I thought, yeah, no, you're good um, but yeah, I
think the paradox of choice isdefinitely a problem, because
that women don't have to settlefor someone in their church or
someone in just their hometown,but maybe they should.

Speaker 1 (02:20:15):
Saturation of the market.
Yeah, because you're, becausethere's.

Speaker 4 (02:20:17):
Oh, if you think about it, and I had to train my
brain this way too, because Iwas in social.
They should.
Saturation of the market yeah,cause you're, cause there's.
Oh, if you think about it.
And I had to train my brainthis way too, because I was in
social media and everything likethere.
The reality is is there always,is going to be a better option
right.
That's just the reality.
But you also have to know to besatisfied with where you're at,
and who you're with, I think.

Speaker 1 (02:20:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:20:42):
And that's not being taught, at least not when I was
going to that church, thatchurch they also push a lot of
women to be leaders there and ina lot of those bigger churches.
It's like let's promote womenmore to be leaders and let's do
less men and you're really likeputting everybody out of what
they're calling are because menwant to be ambitious and have

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that and deep down, I do thinkthat women want to be mothers.
It just has to be with theright person yeah, yeah I'm not
saying that they can't chase acareer.
I think that they can.
It's not like against god forthem to work, but I think if we
want to be happy like men, sothat'd be done the right way
yeah even in the world.

Speaker 1 (02:21:25):
Even in the world, it's like anti-man in general.

Speaker 4 (02:21:29):
Yeah, in a way yeah, it's always been that way.
And that's what I'm saying is,I think, like churches are
slowly kind of becoming anti-menin a in a different way.
It's just slower, like how manyjokes do we have to hear about
the man being dumb in a marriage, but you're never going to hear
a preacher, like a woman likecomplaining about why isn't the

(02:21:49):
laundry folded and all thisother crap.
Yeah, like the pastor.

Speaker 1 (02:21:52):
Well, I wouldn't say that, but you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (02:21:56):
The pastor is never going to, or just saying the
woman is a blonde or she didsomething yeah, that's just not
gonna happen, because that'svery hurt about it offensive.

Speaker 1 (02:22:05):
Oh that's, that's a woman.

Speaker 4 (02:22:07):
You can't say that about them right, but they'll
make jokes about men constantlythat's because they know they
can take it yeah, but just bebrave and say something about a
woman like who cares, I wouldyeah, bro, I tell my sister.

Speaker 1 (02:22:19):
I think it is more offensive if you say a joke
towards women I tell my sisterto get back in the kitchen.

Speaker 2 (02:22:25):
All the time I look at her I said get back in the
kitchen to make me a sandwichbut it's my sister.

Speaker 1 (02:22:32):
You know what I mean but don't you think it is like
more offensive for a joketowards a woman than a guy?

Speaker 2 (02:22:39):
no, no or not, it's not really.

Speaker 4 (02:22:43):
It's equal because, again, it's the whole thing of
like in my I think if you're theguy who is constantly only
making jokes about women yeah,you're dumb then, yeah, you have
like some insecurity, but at anoccasional kitchen joke or
about the wife being dumb, likeit happens.
But if you're the guy that onlyis doing that, then I think
that's a problem.

Speaker 1 (02:23:02):
But if you were like, oh yeah, she dropped the
fricking apples in the drivewayagain.

Speaker 4 (02:23:06):
Yeah, what an idiot.

Speaker 1 (02:23:07):
Yeah, what an idiot I feel like people, like more
people would be like wow, thisguy's just a jerk, compared to
saying ah yeah, the guy frickingdropped the apples in the in
the parking lot again ordriveway again?

Speaker 4 (02:23:21):
Yeah, but I, what an idiot I can see.
I think people would laugh atthat because they're like yeah,
okay so is it like you're sayingthat the people think it's more
offensive?

Speaker 1 (02:23:30):
Yes, the people think it's more offensive if you were
to say that joke.

Speaker 4 (02:23:33):
But you don't really care.

Speaker 1 (02:23:36):
No.

Speaker 4 (02:23:36):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (02:23:37):
I don't personally care.

Speaker 4 (02:23:38):
Okay then, yes, no, I don't personally I don't
personally care okay

Speaker 1 (02:23:39):
yeah, but if I I'm saying if I was a comedian and I
was in front of a crowd and I'dmade those two different jokes
the ones about the apple that Ijust said- yeah I think people
would get up and leave if it was, if I said it was a woman, yeah
, okay, and now for a guy, no.

Speaker 4 (02:23:54):
They think it's funny okay, now that I know that
you're saying from like anaudience perspective.
Yes, I think that peoplegenerally think the women one is
more offensive, but Matt Reifalso had that joke about women
and he just owns it.

Speaker 1 (02:24:07):
Yeah, I mean yeah, but a lot of women do hate him.

Speaker 4 (02:24:10):
So yeah, but who cares?

Speaker 1 (02:24:13):
I mean this is you're going to have, no matter where
you go.

Speaker 4 (02:24:19):
Yeah, I mean if you could like what David Goggins
says.
If you can walk on water,they're gonna think it's because
you can't swim.
Yeah, like they're gonna havehaters are always gonna say well
I mean, I just know I get it.
That's actually kind of goodthough haters are always gonna
find something about you yeah,there's just, it just is what it
is now you can walk outsidewith the red flannel.

Speaker 2 (02:24:37):
Somebody's's going to get like why is it not green?
Yeah, why isn't it green?

Speaker 4 (02:24:41):
Yeah, so I think that it was blue.
Yeah, we're going to move on.

Speaker 1 (02:24:49):
What was the original like?
What were you originallytalking about?

Speaker 4 (02:24:53):
Women Like women versus guys like in the end,
yeah, like I think we were kindof on society, societal pressure
on women, even within thechurch.

Speaker 2 (02:25:02):
Yeah, maybe it started off on like the dating
apps and how they ruinrelationships, and then it just
kind of went to like this pointwhere it's like, yeah, can you
really make fun of a womanwithout somebody getting
offended?
And the answer is no, becausethey'll hold a grudge for like
the next 50 years about that.
Yeah see, there's a joke.

Speaker 4 (02:25:18):
There's a joke about a woman and I think it's funny.

Speaker 2 (02:25:21):
And there will be women that listen to this that
will also agree on that becausethey know it's true.

Speaker 1 (02:25:26):
And then there's going to be women who get mad.
They'll think of other people.
They won't think of themselves.

Speaker 4 (02:25:30):
Yeah, even though generally, if they're thinking
of somebody else, it's probablyabout them.

Speaker 1 (02:25:35):
That's actually usually what I do for a joke.
Huh, I think about somebodyelse, you just don't.
You don't think about yourself,you think about like somebody
somebody else.

Speaker 2 (02:25:47):
Yeah, that happening, but in a way like you also
gotta have fun with yourselfevery now and again too like I
never have fun with myself, dudeI.

Speaker 1 (02:25:54):
I think it's boring.

Speaker 2 (02:25:55):
I do jokes all the time about me because the thing
is is like okay, if I'm gonnamake fun of somebody else and
like I got to be able to like,if I can dish it, I can take it
at that point.

Speaker 4 (02:26:03):
Yeah, but there's too many people who can dish it but
can't take it.

Speaker 2 (02:26:06):
Yeah, and I hate those people I'm like, don't
even joke with me.

Speaker 4 (02:26:08):
Oh, I'm one of them, like I'll make fun of you for
days, but as soon as you make ajoke about me, I hate you.

Speaker 1 (02:26:15):
I'm actually not joking.
I probably am one of those,really Actually, I just don't
dish it, get out, I just don'tdish it, I don't dish it.

Speaker 2 (02:26:23):
And I don't receive it.
Yeah, or I'm not good atreceiving it.

Speaker 4 (02:26:26):
If you don't dish it, then you don't have to take it
Right.
At that point you have a right.

Speaker 2 (02:26:30):
Then that guy's just a jerk, yeah, if somebody says
something like, and then you'relike okay, well, I didn't make
fun of you for your crap, sodon't be making fun of me and
mine.

Speaker 4 (02:26:38):
Yeah, you're able to do that.
Yeah, but if you say, hey,caleb, your shirt's stupid and
I'm like, well, yours makes youlook like a flower.

Speaker 1 (02:26:53):
And you're like don't say that.

Speaker 2 (02:26:54):
Don't say that, then you're wrong.
Yeah, I agree.
Do you think men, like a lot ofthe masculinity has died a bit?
There is still some of it outthere, but I think most of them,
oh, you mean guys?

Speaker 1 (02:27:04):
are getting softer.

Speaker 2 (02:27:05):
Yeah, they're getting softer because I mean, there is
one person I can think of inparticular who, like, doesn't
wear the pants in a relationship, oh yeah.
I know that guy and he yeah,the woman's in control and
whatnot.
Yeah, the woman's in controland whatnot.
And I can feel like it's a moredominant thing at that point
where the woman's going to bemaking the decisions on
everything and anything in thathouse or finances or whatever,

(02:27:26):
and the man's not going to stickup for it, even if he is the
breadwinner.

Speaker 1 (02:27:29):
That's because, literally, women wanted that,
the women wanted that.

Speaker 4 (02:27:32):
Right.
The women wanted what.

Speaker 2 (02:27:34):
To be the breadwinners.

Speaker 4 (02:27:35):
Oh yeah, go back to, but look how happy they are.

Speaker 1 (02:27:41):
They're not happy.
I know I mean go back to Adamand Eve.

Speaker 3 (02:27:45):
It's the oldest story in the Bible.
Which can we?

Speaker 4 (02:27:49):
all agree was Eve's fault for biting into the apple.
Yeah, I blame Eve.

Speaker 1 (02:27:54):
Hold on, I'm making a point.

Speaker 4 (02:27:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:27:56):
Except I forgot what the point was.

Speaker 4 (02:27:58):
Oh my.
God Well you guys interrupted.
He interrupted.

Speaker 3 (02:28:02):
He interrupted.
I had nothing to do with it.

Speaker 1 (02:28:04):
Well, eve, you know, had the apple and then gives it
to Adam right, yeah.
Yeah, and pretty much it's likethe same thing.
They were the first ones thatwanted charge, right, yeah, yep,
and they still want that.
Even in a relationship, theywant to take charge.

Speaker 4 (02:28:23):
Yeah, it's a tale as old as time and God is like nah,
it's like yeah, because Adambasically, Adam simped is what
you could say.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:28:30):
Adam simped yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:28:32):
It's because and I think that, like in that story,
eve represents like freedom fromGod and then Adam represents
the sin and fall of man, becausewomen have always wanted
freedom like they like,liberation from like god yeah
and then liberation from god.
What does that lead to?
It leads to sin yeah becausemen don't have to allow
feminists and feminism to to bethere.

(02:28:57):
We don't have to allow it, butwe do the majority of us allow
it like women will say somethinglike oh yeah, we agree because
we're scared that if we disagreewith them they're not going to
like us right, or they're justgoing to like, call us like a
fascist or something like stupid, and they're going to shun men
on everything.

Speaker 2 (02:29:11):
All men are the same.
At that point.

Speaker 4 (02:29:12):
That's probably just a man's thought, you know if
they call us a fascist, it justmeans how dumb, they are.

Speaker 1 (02:29:18):
Yeah exactly.
Guys actually just yeah, theywant that.

Speaker 4 (02:29:24):
But the reality is, if you actually stand up for
yourself and disagree with them,that actually makes them more
sexually attractive to you.

Speaker 1 (02:29:34):
Versus just trying to agree with them all the time.
I mean, as long as it's not ona hard issue, I mean you know
what I mean.
Like if it's not, I was aboutto say something.

Speaker 4 (02:29:44):
I'm gonna wait.

Speaker 1 (02:29:47):
See it out of the corner of my eye stop stop, like
as long as it's not on like ahuge issue, like hey, I'm moving
or something I don't know whatdo you mean?

Speaker 4 (02:29:57):
moving like.

Speaker 1 (02:29:58):
You can argue like hey, this, I don't know, this
rock is stupid, or somethinglike that.
I don't know.
What do you mean?
Moving like like.
You can argue like hey this, Idon't know this, this rock is
stupid, or something like that,I don't know the examples we
come up with.

Speaker 2 (02:30:06):
Yeah, yeah, I'm saying like okay let's

Speaker 4 (02:30:09):
use the rock if she comes in here and says, like I
really think this rock is a workof art, and I'm just like
you're like it's stupid yeahright, that's.
That's a small thing, youdisagree on yeah, but if it's
like something bigger than nolike you probably shouldn't,
yeah yeah for instance like thatwell then, you probably just
shouldn't be with her right ifyou disagree with her, I'm

(02:30:30):
saying it won't.

Speaker 1 (02:30:31):
They won't be attracted to you.
If you're disagreeing with them, in that bigger I disagree with
you, because I've actually beenon really with women who what
had political, yeah, politicaldisagreements with me, and they
still were like into me, butpolitical that's still like
small class dude that's not.

(02:30:52):
You just said abortion was abig thing no, I'm not saying
like abortion, like she wasscared is has to go get abortion
, like she has to go get anabortion and you're disagreeing
with her on that and I meanhere's oh, that's a whole.

Speaker 2 (02:31:05):
I feel like yeah, the ballpark that is.
Yeah, I'm not saying yeah yeah,like hard really yeah, never
mind difficult situations likethat, there are certain things
they will just not agree withyou yeah, there are certain
things with abortion too, withthat factor I mentioned it a
couple of times where it's likeI feel at one point it's a, it's
a gray line, because I can getwhy a woman would want an

(02:31:28):
abortion and the only reasonwould be like rape at that point
.
Because I wouldn't if I was awoman and I had that happen to
me.
I wouldn't want the kid of therapist that did that to me.
But if you're like some girlthat like just you know what
happens when a man and a womanget together, regardless of age,
at that point like if you're 18, past that age of consent,

(02:31:48):
whatever and you're like, well,I just I'm not ready to be a mom
at that point.
Like you knew what was going tohappen when you decided to do
the horizontal monster mash withthat guy at that college party,
all right, like you knew whatwas going to happen.
So you need to accept what yourmistake was at that point, and
so does the guy.
I'm not saying that the womanneeds to just be the only one to
accept it.

(02:32:08):
The guy is the one who alsoknows that it's his scene that
produces that child.

Speaker 1 (02:32:13):
Yeah, so he needs to man up and then be an example
that is so true that I feel likemen are not stepping up in
those situations and that's whywomen are saying I should just
have an abortion, because I knowthis guy isn't going to do
before we help helping

Speaker 4 (02:32:28):
me at all you know, yeah, okay, before we segue into
this, I will say that even inthe situations of rape, abortion
still doesn't take away thetrauma of the situation no it
doesn't and away the trauma ofthe situation no it doesn't, and
they will still have thatemotional tie to that child.

Speaker 2 (02:32:45):
It still will I just when you look at a kid that if
you were raped and you had thatkid and it's like and the kid's
like eight years old now and ithas the face of the rapist at
that point like I'm not going towant to look at that all day,
like I understand he's a kid andhe's innocent and all this 50%
looking that way.

Speaker 4 (02:33:00):
Well, what I'm just saying is like there's been a
lot of cases where they do keepthe baby and they're really
happy that they did, and a childis really happy that they were
able to live.

Speaker 2 (02:33:11):
Yeah, and that's also good too.
It's just for me personally.
I wouldn't want to.
If I was in that case, if I wasraped as a woman and I had to
look at the offspring of therapist that did that and, yeah,
I'm still going to betraumatized regardless.
But I'm like this video is notgetting pushed on YouTube.

(02:33:32):
No, it is not.

Speaker 4 (02:33:33):
Did we run out?

Speaker 1 (02:33:34):
of recording power.

Speaker 4 (02:33:35):
No, I'm just saying all the words we're using are
supposed to be censored.
I'm not censoring them,though're using.
Yeah, I was supposed to becensored.

Speaker 2 (02:33:40):
I just I'm not censoring him, though I wouldn't
want it to be at that point forme to just look at the kid and
again, I know the kid isinnocent at that point, but like
I wouldn't be able to handle itbecause it would just be a
raise.

Speaker 1 (02:33:50):
That ptsd reminder that kid is a blank slate,
though you understand, though.

Speaker 2 (02:33:55):
Like as you get older , you grow more into whoever the
dominant genes are like.
For me, I'm gonna look morelike my dad when I'm probably in
my 50s, but it's like if my daddid something stupid and then I
was thinking, you're thinkinglike the behavior would be no
different no, I'm talking likejust physical traits, just in
general.
Like so if my dad, let's say,did something stupid to my mom,

(02:34:18):
and then I grow up and I'm 50,she, she's like 80, and then she
has PTSD.

Speaker 1 (02:34:22):
How do you know what they're going to look like?

Speaker 2 (02:34:24):
Because that's just how it is with more dominant
genes and stuff like that.
Like my brother has more of mymom's genes than my dad's?

Speaker 1 (02:34:29):
No, but I'm saying, if you got raped, like, how
would you see?

Speaker 2 (02:34:32):
that Well, the male genes are more, I feel, dominant
.

Speaker 4 (02:34:40):
What if you're like man?
I got raped by the best lookingfreaking guy and it's still
right.
You know what I?

Speaker 1 (02:34:43):
mean, that is a terrible argument.
I'm not even arguing, I'm justsaying how do you know, like
what it's even gonna look like?
I mean at all, because usuallywhen somebody gets raped, they
get drugged and they have noidea even who raped them right?

Speaker 2 (02:34:55):
yeah, that's true, but at the same time, though,
you don't know until the kid'sborn, so there is a chance that
that kid will look like therapist, and then, at that point,
it's like.

Speaker 4 (02:35:03):
I'm sorry, but you never saw the rapist.
Yeah, but you wouldn't knowwhat he looks like because you
didn't see him.

Speaker 2 (02:35:07):
There are people that still do get raped without
being drugged.

Speaker 1 (02:35:11):
Yeah, there's crimes of rape, yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:35:13):
I wouldn't say few, I would say there's an equal
amount of being drugged and notdrugged, really, yeah, oh.
Yeah, and then there's againlike there's sex trafficking,
there's even prostitution andall that other crap too.
That happens, and even thoughprostitution is not technically,
you know, whatever, however theworld sees it, it's honest work
to some people, but other timesit's no, it's not, it's sex

(02:35:36):
trafficking which is bad.

Speaker 1 (02:35:38):
Yeah, but you it's not.

Speaker 2 (02:35:38):
it's sex trafficking which is bad I just yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:35:39):
But you know what I still say, that I mean, I think
I've said this before is thatone wrong doesn't equal another
wrong.

Speaker 2 (02:35:45):
No, yeah, I think the dumbest thing too is just as a
side note piece is a fun fact islike the only way that you can
get away with like sextrafficking or like anything
like that is if you have acamera in front of you, because
then it's considered a porn andI'm like that's so dumb and it's
illegal.
Then at that point becauseyou're filming.

Speaker 1 (02:36:03):
I listened to some podcast about this and they
started cracking down reallyhard on this stuff yeah, I think
it's regardless like uh porn.
No porn hub.
Porn hub, like it used to belike a lot, a lot of rape down
there yeah, because they didn'thave to.
They didn't have to ask foryeah, yeah, like at yeah, and

(02:36:25):
you didn't have to ask forconsent and they only flagged it
after like 15.
Like down.
Vote like like post.
Like down reports reports 15reports, and then, yeah, they
start cracking down on that alot.

Speaker 2 (02:36:43):
Yeah, because again, you can literally put a camera
in front of it and it's oh, thatmight just be a fantasy,
somebody has, or some crap likethat, you know.

Speaker 1 (02:36:47):
Right, but they started knocking that down
really fast.

Speaker 4 (02:36:51):
Well, that's good.

Speaker 3 (02:36:52):
So it's good.

Speaker 1 (02:36:52):
Yes, we live in a better world.
To a degree, to a degree, to adegree it was a girl that I
think she came on Joe Rogan acouple months ago.
No, theo Vons, it was Theo Vons, that's what it was.

Speaker 4 (02:37:06):
I'll have to check it out.

Speaker 1 (02:37:07):
Anyways.

Speaker 4 (02:37:10):
Now what?
Well, I think that we conclude.

Speaker 2 (02:37:13):
Yeah, I think we can conclude now.

Speaker 4 (02:37:15):
Two hours and 40 minutes.

Speaker 1 (02:37:17):
That's a good job guys.

Speaker 4 (02:37:18):
That's pretty long, so do we want to end it.

Speaker 1 (02:37:20):
Yeah, do we have to take.
Do you think?

Speaker 4 (02:37:22):
All right, everybody All right, haven't heard this in
a minute, I know.
Thanks for tuning in everybody.
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Speaker 3 (02:37:36):
Be sure to subscribe and if you're listening, see you
next time this has been anotherinstallment of the red flannel
boys and one grey it's still thesame.

Speaker 4 (02:37:49):
It's still the same people.
You like how I just ended it.

Speaker 1 (02:37:53):
I like to drink ozone a tea sometimes bye, everybody
love you have a blessed week.

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