045: (Most Of) Signal The Skies

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We open with gear talk and end in the heart of a song: VHS is a haunted look at memory, written to feel like a choice to sink and a choice to surface. We map the track’s story, share mix decisions, and chart the EP’s path with honest timelines and a clear creative brief.

• VHS as nostalgic grief framed as a ghost that pulls you under
• Breakdowns, syncopation, and when rhythm serves story
• Haunting cover art motifs and a visual language of hands
• Distribution via UnitedMasters and discovery beyond social
• EP scope, interlude plans, and realistic delivery window
• Finding a cleaner vocal identity and redoing older tracks

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Episode Transcript

SPEAKER_02 (00:00):
Here you go.

SPEAKER_04 (00:00):
It'd be weird to be like.

SPEAKER_02 (00:01):
Merry birthday, dude.

SPEAKER_03 (00:02):
Why did you give me this?
Well, you said you the other onewas Well, it still works.
I just don't know why I wouldplug this into it and it just
wouldn't Oh, that's okay.

SPEAKER_02 (00:10):
I'm supplied with power cords and power strips and
if you need some Velcro strapstoo, dude.
I got you.
Yeah.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (00:20):
Dude, I got mad Velcro strips.

SPEAKER_02 (00:22):
Dude, I love so instead of using zip ties now at
work, I started actually doingVelcro strips just because it's
less of a hassle, and likeinstead of having to cut the the
ends off or whatever, you justtighten it.
And it's like and my boss likesit more too because it just
looks more clean.
And and then when you're doingmaintenance or any type of
fixing, you're not gonna scratchthe heck out of your hands when

(00:44):
you rub next to them.

SPEAKER_01 (00:45):
Yep.
So and they stick to the carpet.

SPEAKER_02 (00:48):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Cool.

SPEAKER_00 (00:53):
I've learned so much about Velcro.

SPEAKER_02 (00:55):
Dude, Velcro's nice.
It becomes a really you use itinstead of what?
Uh uh screw ties or zip ties.

SPEAKER_00 (01:02):
Screw ties?

SPEAKER_02 (01:03):
There's screw ties and zip ties.
No.
No.

SPEAKER_03 (01:08):
No, it's pretty heavy duty.
Guess I learned something newevery day.

SPEAKER_02 (01:11):
You do, dude.
That's how it goes in life.
You just learn and you justlearn and you learn.

SPEAKER_03 (01:16):
Oh, by the way, remember when you made fun of me
for not having a pedal board?
Sitting right there.

SPEAKER_02 (01:22):
He's still a fancy.
He's got cool pedals, too.
He's got that.

SPEAKER_03 (01:24):
They're not all cool.

SPEAKER_02 (01:25):
He's got that Alpha Omega pedal.

SPEAKER_03 (01:28):
That's the one that I brought.

SPEAKER_02 (01:29):
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (01:31):
That is very biblical.
Chorus.
MXR envelope.

SPEAKER_02 (01:35):
Yeah.
The preamp.
The envelope one is my favorite.
You should just startincorporating some of that in
one of our songs.

SPEAKER_03 (01:41):
I don't think it would work.

SPEAKER_02 (01:43):
Why not?

SPEAKER_03 (01:43):
Because it's more, it's mostly like a funk pedal.

SPEAKER_02 (01:46):
Dude, we'll write a funky, funky thing.

SPEAKER_03 (01:49):
I mean like 70s funk.

SPEAKER_02 (01:51):
Oh.
How would you describe the soundon the It's almost like a wah,
but it's like more.
It's like bubbles.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (02:00):
It sounds like bubbles.

SPEAKER_02 (02:01):
Yeah.
I was gonna say, instead of itbeing like an actual like wah
where like the the wave wouldlook like this, it's more like a
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (02:12):
Yeah.
I don't know if I go with thatroute.

unknown (02:15):
No?

SPEAKER_02 (02:15):
No.
I feel like that's a pretty gooddescription.

SPEAKER_03 (02:19):
If you look at it in a if you ever listen, do you
know Thundercat?

SPEAKER_01 (02:23):
The show?

SPEAKER_03 (02:24):
No, Thundercat Thundercat is uh is a bassist.
He uses it.
I think he's like popularizingit a little bit for like modern
day.
Yeah.
Okay.
Other than that, I don't reallyknow.
I'm sure who's the guy who'ssuperhero cat thing?

unknown (02:40):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (02:42):
Who's the guy who used the star base?
I can't think of the BootsyCounty.
Bootsy County.
Yeah.
He uses that pedal too, I wouldimagine.

unknown (02:50):
Dang.

SPEAKER_01 (02:51):
The funk.

SPEAKER_02 (02:52):
Yeah.
That's so fun.
Dude, we could do like a funky70s style thing.
Imagine like a 70s style likebreakdown, but it's like really,
really groovy.
That'd be fun.

SPEAKER_03 (03:04):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (03:05):
A little bit of syncopation, like uh the one
band, um Thank You Scientist.
Kind of like how they would dolike a thing when they might
write a breakdown, but it's likesuper funky, and they got all
the all the French horns andstuff like that.

SPEAKER_03 (03:16):
And they got like the fiddle.

SPEAKER_02 (03:17):
Yeah.
Have you heard of that band?
Oh my gosh.
Thank you, Scientist is one ofthe weirdest bands.

SPEAKER_03 (03:24):
They I don't think they're that weird because it's
palatable.

SPEAKER_02 (03:26):
It's like the vocalist is like Koh Heat and
Cambria style vocalist.
And then you don't like Koh Heatand Cambria?
No, I like that.

SPEAKER_01 (03:33):
Oh, but he's like he's like Getty Lee high
pitched.

SPEAKER_02 (03:35):
Yeah.
He's got he's got like a highpitch, but like it's I would say
that they're more like rushstyle.
Rush?

SPEAKER_03 (03:43):
With more yeah, with more instrument instrumentation
in it.

SPEAKER_02 (03:48):
Yeah, they're really, really cool.
Like like um There's like ninemembers or something.

SPEAKER_03 (03:52):
Yeah, probably.
Anyway, I forgot to dointroductions.
So this is the majority ofSignal Disguise.
Unfortunately, Jay couldn't makeit today, our drummer.

SPEAKER_02 (04:03):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (04:03):
But everybody else introduced yourself.
Everybody knows me, so we'll gothis way.
Who are you?
I'm Caleb.
What do you do?
I weld.

SPEAKER_00 (04:13):
For the band.

SPEAKER_03 (04:15):
For the band.
I play bass.
Guitar.
Yeah, I play the big guitar.

SPEAKER_02 (04:19):
The big guitar, dude.
I'm Andy.
I'm the vocalist slash guitarwriter player, I guess I would
say.
For the band.
CEO of the band.

unknown (04:31):
CEO.

SPEAKER_03 (04:32):
Chief Executive Officer.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (04:34):
Okay.
Continue.

SPEAKER_01 (04:37):
Uh, I'm Anna.

SPEAKER_02 (04:39):
She just joined.
How fun.

SPEAKER_01 (04:42):
I play guitar.

SPEAKER_02 (04:44):
Nice.
Anything else?

SPEAKER_01 (04:46):
Do I?

SPEAKER_02 (04:47):
No, I don't know.
Maybe not.
I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 (04:48):
Love to find out.

SPEAKER_02 (04:49):
Yeah, we'll figure that out at some point.
On the next EP.

SPEAKER_01 (04:53):
The mandolin, maybe.

SPEAKER_02 (04:55):
Did you redo?

SPEAKER_03 (04:56):
Are you talking about the upcoming EP?

SPEAKER_02 (04:58):
No.
No.
Oh more EPs.

SPEAKER_03 (05:01):
So you're not playing on any of the songs,
like the singles.
No, she is now.

SPEAKER_02 (05:06):
So funny enough, she'll be starting to write more
for like the last three songs.
Really incorporate her skill inthe next few.
I think it'd be appropriate.

SPEAKER_00 (05:17):
I'm Bree, and I was supposed to just be doing some
piano stuff, and then Andydragged me into vocals.

SPEAKER_02 (05:24):
I had to beg her.

SPEAKER_00 (05:27):
It's a good time.

SPEAKER_03 (05:27):
It was a good time.
So you hate singing.

SPEAKER_00 (05:30):
I think I'm a terrible singer.
You're an awesome singer.
Really?
I do.
I truly listen, the only personthat had heard me sing was a
friend from college, and hepushed me to like share my
music, and then Andy was sharinghis music.
And so I had shared something,and Andy's like, dude, you gotta
be on a song.
And like that's like my parentsdidn't even know that I like to

(05:52):
sing.

SPEAKER_02 (05:53):
Dude, going back, yeah, it starts off because
like, yeah, I was just sendingher.
This is like literally when Istarted sending Leaving.
Yeah.
And then Brue was like, Oh, thishas a lot of potential.
And then Leaving came out, andthen I started writing
Pneumonia.
Probably like my favorite songthat I've ever written, besides
all the other ones.
Yeah, it's a good one.
They're all my favorites.
I love them all.
But pneumonia.

SPEAKER_03 (06:13):
You can't have multiple favorites.
Okay.

SPEAKER_02 (06:16):
You have to pick one.
All right, dude.
All right.
My favorite one will have to bepneumonia, just because it's
just, I don't know.
It's so raw and so emotional.
And it's so simple at the sametime.
And this is like the one songthat actually doesn't have like
a breakdown in it.
Well, if I was happy, it doesn'thave a breakdown either.

SPEAKER_03 (06:34):
Are you gonna put a breakdown on every song?

SPEAKER_02 (06:37):
No, I'm gonna try not to.

SPEAKER_03 (06:38):
I want to be more because it's value.

SPEAKER_02 (06:41):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (06:42):
If you keep doing it.

SPEAKER_02 (06:43):
Yeah.
But which is why I start doinglike really random rhythms.
If any if all of you notice,Anna actually, we were talking
about this earlier today, and Iwas like, I write the most
annoying breakdowns possible.
Just to have give it the mostrandomest syncopated rhythm
possible where it doesn't makesense half the time.

SPEAKER_03 (07:00):
You better hope the music theorists don't listen to
this and come after you oncethey hear it.
They might not agree.

SPEAKER_02 (07:04):
Dude, they might like it.

SPEAKER_03 (07:05):
They might like it.
I'm just saying they might alsobe like, dude, you can do it.

SPEAKER_02 (07:11):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (07:12):
Well, get your powerpoint right.

SPEAKER_02 (07:16):
Sometimes I want to hit the polyghums.
Well, sometimes I want to hit iton the E instead of the and.

SPEAKER_03 (07:22):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (07:22):
You know?
Yeah.
But um, oh yeah.
Anyway, going back to the story,uh, I shared pneumonia with
Bree, and I originally like sangon the bridge, and I was like,
hey, you know, I can't rememberhow I said it.

SPEAKER_00 (07:37):
Well, I shared something with you that I was
working on.
Oh, that's right.
And then you were like, hey, youshould really sing on this, and
I'm like, absolutely not.

SPEAKER_02 (07:43):
Yeah, no, that's exactly how it went.
I shared pneumonia and then sheshared something back, and she
was singing on it, and I waslike, it would be really cool to
like get a different vocalistfor the like for this song then.
And I was like, a femalevocalist is like top tier when
it comes to a metal song.
A lot of a lot of metalfrontline uh or women frontline
bands are super super popular.

(08:05):
So I was like, let's get Brie onit.
And it took forever for me toconvince her.
And then she came back and she'slike, Alright, here's this.
This is just a yeah, I was like,just listen.

SPEAKER_00 (08:16):
You can hate it and delete it and not do anything.

SPEAKER_02 (08:19):
And then I listened to it, and then it was just it
it worked perfectly.
And then when her harmonies camein, I'm like, she's gotta be on
this song.
There's no doubt about it.

SPEAKER_03 (08:28):
This is all a story that I haven't heard because I
wasn't part.
I joined later.

SPEAKER_02 (08:34):
Yeah.
You joined, you joined postyeah, like lately.
Lately is when you came back.

SPEAKER_03 (08:40):
Yeah.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (08:40):
Oh wow.
I was gonna actually have himwrite bass for pneumonia and
violet, and then we haddifferent musicians.
We broke up for a minute, andthen we're now back together.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (08:57):
Destiny.
For those of you who don't know,Andy is actually married to a
woman.

SPEAKER_02 (09:00):
I am.
Don't worry.
You know, talking aboutmarriage, I forgot my ring.
I'm so screwed.
Did you better not have yourhand on the camera though?

SPEAKER_03 (09:08):
There's gonna be a lot of single ladies.
Oh no.
That's why Stefan hasn't beenback.

SPEAKER_02 (09:13):
He's probably been caught by all the ladies.
JK.

SPEAKER_00 (09:18):
I was just gonna let that pop through that.

SPEAKER_03 (09:21):
I have no comment.
Actually, I'm doing one with himtomorrow.
Yeah, him and Ethan.

SPEAKER_02 (09:29):
Oh.
I miss both of those guys.
I'm coming in.
I'm gonna interrupt.

SPEAKER_03 (09:33):
Maybe I'll ask them if you can come on.

SPEAKER_02 (09:36):
Well, why ask them it's your podcast?
What?

SPEAKER_03 (09:41):
Oh, because it's because the one that we're doing
is your red flannel boys.
Yeah, it's like the special onesthat come out.

SPEAKER_04 (09:48):
This is my podcast.

SPEAKER_03 (09:50):
Maybe they can maybe they'll be if they don't want to
do it under that logo orwhatever, then that's why.
Okay.
It's not telling me for thefirst time.

SPEAKER_02 (09:58):
Dang.
Alright.
Well, let me know.
If not.

SPEAKER_03 (10:00):
But they're gonna it's gonna be about the Charlie
Kirk thing.

SPEAKER_00 (10:04):
So well, we just got canceled, alright.

SPEAKER_03 (10:10):
Cancelled?

SPEAKER_02 (10:11):
We can't talk about that stuff.
Yeah, I can't bring that up.
Oh, really?
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (10:14):
That's crazy.

SPEAKER_02 (10:14):
Just be careful.

SPEAKER_00 (10:15):
It's a hot topic right now.

SPEAKER_02 (10:17):
It is a hot topic.
Did you speak just to get offtangent?
Did you notice that people arelike theorizing and like looking
closer into that whole entirething and how they're like don't
let me go down that rabbit hole.

SPEAKER_00 (10:27):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (10:28):
I'm just gonna I'm just gonna leave it at that.
I've already gone down all theconspiracies.

SPEAKER_00 (10:32):
We gotta chat later.
Not recording.

SPEAKER_02 (10:34):
Yeah, we're talking about music today.

SPEAKER_03 (10:35):
Well, there's no rules to this podcast.
You can talk about anything.
I just wanted to have the peoplefrom the band on and then also
talk about the new single, whichcomes out in two uh two weeks or
two weeks recording.

SPEAKER_02 (10:49):
Yeah, two weeks-ish.
So now that we think about it,we we can talk about it here
too.
I think it'd be great.
Um the plan for our new singleto come out, VHS, is October
17th, which is great.
It's got some spooky vibes toit, really fly leaf style is um
what a couple people have beensaying for this one, which I
like because I love fly leaf.

(11:11):
Um so October 17th would wouldbe a pretty cool time because
it's like a little bit beforeHalloween, so that way people
can give it a give it a listen,give it a chance, and hopefully
it carries on.
Maybe we'll it'll go on somespooky TikToks or something like
that.
It'd be sweet.

SPEAKER_03 (11:29):
Okay, so now that we're on the subject, what is
the story behind this song?
Because I I don't even know.

SPEAKER_02 (11:35):
I don't think.
Um Brie kind of took a littlebit of a lead on this one.

SPEAKER_00 (11:39):
Yeah, I did the lyrics for this song.
Oh, really?
I did.

SPEAKER_02 (11:43):
Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_00 (11:44):
Um, so the s story kind of behind it, so there's
the metaphor of the ghost likedragging me deeper into my
memories, and the idea is likewhen you're thinking of a time
in the past that you kind ofmiss, you're kind of mourning or
grieving, you wish you werestill there, and you let your
mind just go there and drown fora little bit.
You're like, I just want tothink about this, I just want to

(12:05):
mourn this a little bit, or oreven if it was a happy time, not
even a sad time, but uh you justlife is different and it's not
like that anymore.
And you're like, you know what?
I'm just I'm good to just kindof drown in my memories here for
a little bit.
So that's the metaphor of myghost is like my past self drags
me deeper and I don't mind.
I'm good to drown here.

SPEAKER_02 (12:26):
Yeah.
Yeah, just to add on to thattoo, because it's like one of
those things where you justbecome so reminiscent on
everything, you you miss thosetimes, and so it's kind of like
a like a melancholic feelbecause you're like, Oh, I can't
go back to that.
I can't, you know, rewind.
And so it's like calling it VHSwas a little bit of a vibe for
for that.

SPEAKER_03 (12:46):
Um, okay, so it's supposed to be like nostalgic,
yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (12:49):
Yeah.
So yeah, no, the lyrics aresuper good.
I think, yeah, Bree to prettymuch wrote all of them except
the bridge.
I think the bridge was justmainly my part.
So, and yeah, just kind ofadding on top of that, you know,
like who knows if I'll ever getit back, you know, because
you're just there.
And so, yeah, it becomes areally cool thing.

(13:11):
And we just actually got donewith our little bit of a photo
shoe for like promo stuff.

SPEAKER_04 (13:15):
Oh, um, yesterday.
Um, it was sweet.

SPEAKER_02 (13:18):
Yeah, my friend or our friend, it's Anna's friend
too, uh, Britt.

SPEAKER_00 (13:22):
I'm pretty sure we're friends now.

SPEAKER_02 (13:24):
Oh yeah, you guys are like besties now.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (13:26):
Wait, photo shoot.

SPEAKER_02 (13:28):
Yeah, yeah.
Well, like for the album coveror like the the cover for the
for the song and then like acouple promos and like putting
the canvas up on Spotify andstuff like that.
Oh that's how we're able to doall like the cool videos that
we've been doing on Spotify,instead of it just being like
the picture of the cover.

SPEAKER_00 (13:46):
Yeah, not a band photo.
We you didn't you didn't missanything.

SPEAKER_02 (13:49):
No, don't worry.

SPEAKER_03 (13:50):
I was hoping I did.
But just Photoshop Kay look atthe Photoshop my old the other
one that we have.

SPEAKER_02 (13:58):
That was that was a really good picture of you.

SPEAKER_03 (14:01):
Thank you.

SPEAKER_02 (14:03):
Flattered blushing and looking at Andy, beautiful.
I know.
It's like it's so easy now.
Well, easy to make me blush.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Overall, yeah, no, VH, um, butjust getting into it, I think
there's just a little bit of astruggle with like kind of the

(14:24):
what's going on with the mix.
And I think I don't know.
What do you guys think?
Like, do you guys think we canjust real quick bring it back to
Landon, who, if nobody knowsLandon mixes and masters our
songs, and he's been doing itsince uh Violet.

SPEAKER_03 (14:41):
And so Well, we all know my ultimate opinion, but
yeah, I do think that it needsto go back.
Go back.
I should show it to you on myheadphones after this.
Yeah.
Because it like it it soundslike they're gonna explode.

SPEAKER_02 (14:56):
Really?

SPEAKER_03 (14:57):
Yes.
That's kind of scary.
I wonder lower volume, like Ican feel the little speaker
rumbling.

SPEAKER_02 (15:03):
Ooh, I wonder, I wonder if he did max out on his
like overall.

SPEAKER_00 (15:07):
I would be curious to actually see the mix, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (15:10):
Yeah.
I know I keep funny enough, Ikeep telling him, I'm like,
Landon, while you're mixing,take some videos for me, because
I would love some of this stuffto post it on her.

SPEAKER_03 (15:21):
What if he doesn't want people to know his secret?

SPEAKER_01 (15:24):
His secrets.

SPEAKER_03 (15:25):
Well, it's like that's gonna get sausage.

SPEAKER_04 (15:28):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (15:30):
You can't give away.
Well, that just means they'recopying Landon and that gives
him all the boobs.

SPEAKER_03 (15:37):
No, because then it takes business away from him.

SPEAKER_00 (15:40):
New sausage from Landon.

SPEAKER_03 (15:42):
Because if uh they can have their own thing.
If if like so you know howthere's like guitar teachers on
YouTube and stuff teaching youall all their secrets, it's like
they're doing that because theirsecrets aren't very good.
And then otherwise they'd belike, otherwise people would be

(16:05):
learning their bass lines.
People would have videos of themtoo.
It's kind of the same thing.

SPEAKER_02 (16:09):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (16:10):
So if he gave away all the secrets, maybe he thinks
it's the best way to do thingsand he wants to do it.

SPEAKER_02 (16:18):
Well, I think it would still save him because
it's like we don't have to taghim.
People would just know what ourproducing is.

SPEAKER_03 (16:24):
But they would still know how he's doing it.
It doesn't matter if his name isin there.
Like, oh, I don't know thisguy's name, so I can't copy his
tactics.

SPEAKER_02 (16:32):
Yeah, dude.
That's exactly how it shouldwork.
Well, that's not how it works.

SPEAKER_03 (16:37):
Wishful thinking.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (16:40):
But even if it was just like a little bit of
B-roll, you don't even have tosee specifics of what he's
doing.

SPEAKER_02 (16:44):
Yeah, if you did like a really cool time-lapse
video.
His computer is just all blackand he's just like working.
It doesn't even look like he'sdoing it.

SPEAKER_03 (16:52):
No, just like make it like uh what they do when
they have to like censor certainpictures on YouTube.
Just a big tag censored.
That or just like make it likeblurry.
Pixelated.
Pixelated.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (17:04):
I like that.
Yeah.
We just need to bring it back.
So we'll see if it if it doesstick to being October 17th.
Um, but yeah, it would be reallycool if we could still put it
that.
If not, still soon.
Push it.
Still.
Yeah.
If if we need to push it a week,it's not gonna hurt my feelings.
I mean, overall, it's like we'rewe're still putting music out,
which is great.

SPEAKER_03 (17:24):
Plus, John's flipped album comes out on October 17th
as well.

SPEAKER_02 (17:28):
Who even is John?
Just kidding.
He was great.
He he was on one of our songstoo, and he actually made that
song super fun.

SPEAKER_03 (17:36):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (17:37):
Oh, he was perfect for that song.

SPEAKER_02 (17:38):
Yeah, yeah.
You know what's crazy?
I almost considered um one of myold buddies who also has a punk
band um to do vocals.
And uh, what is his band nameagain?
Uh oh, the the the skinny limbs,just because I like his voice.
Um you remember Mitch Garcia?
Yeah, I almost considered him,and then I was like, ah, you

(18:00):
know what?
I think I think John would fitthis more.

SPEAKER_03 (18:03):
Are you still friends with him?

SPEAKER_02 (18:04):
Mitch Garcia?
Yeah, I haven't talked to him ina while, but he still follows me
and you know, comments on someof my stuff, and he follows the
band too.
Yeah, he's a cool guy.
He's going on, I think he'sgonna have a second kid.
Whoa.
Whoa, indeed.
Yeah.
Anyway, so but yeah, got somepromo stuff done.
Bree's slowly working on it.

(18:26):
We just need to get an officiallike audio so we can put it on
the clip.
And then we'll from there andit's sweet though.

SPEAKER_00 (18:34):
I think they turned out really sweet.
She did really good.

SPEAKER_02 (18:36):
She did a really, really good job.

SPEAKER_03 (18:37):
Where like like music video asked type stuff?

SPEAKER_02 (18:40):
Yeah, kind of like, yeah, so we had like the idea.
So did you decide on what you'regonna do for the album cover
yet?
Are you gonna do the one whereit's like I haven't decided yet?

SPEAKER_03 (18:52):
Honestly, so did you guys leave me out because you
thought we were gonna fall inlove?
Yes.
Okay.

SPEAKER_02 (18:59):
You told them no, I didn't tell him anything yet,
actually, though.
But all three of us, I think wecan try and see if we can
probably He seems to knowsomething.

SPEAKER_03 (19:08):
Well, I told him about Nobody can nobody can tame
this wild stallion.
That just doesn't happen.

SPEAKER_02 (19:15):
He said Calm down, spirit.

SPEAKER_01 (19:19):
So you still haven't even met her.

SPEAKER_02 (19:21):
Oh correct.

SPEAKER_00 (19:23):
I do think you should meet her.
She's amazing.
After meeting her, I three ofus, dude.

SPEAKER_02 (19:29):
Uh some what do you say, Jay?

SPEAKER_03 (19:30):
Yeah, but you'd oh very sad.
Um But you two don't know methat well, so you wouldn't be
able to tell if I'd match herthere.
And Andy thinks I'd do well withanybody.

SPEAKER_02 (19:43):
That's not true.

SPEAKER_03 (19:44):
That is true.

SPEAKER_00 (19:46):
I agree with Caleb on this one.

SPEAKER_02 (19:47):
Uh but it's because I just like Caleb so much.
Yeah.
Yeah.

unknown (19:51):
That's so nice.

SPEAKER_03 (19:53):
So music video type stuff.
Yeah.
And promo.
I wish I could see him, but I'mnot on any of the social media.

SPEAKER_02 (19:59):
Do you have any of the video stuff on your phone or
anything?

SPEAKER_00 (20:02):
No, I didn't have because I'm still still working
on it.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (20:07):
But no, I think so.
We took one picture and we th Ithink it would be a really cool
album cover where it's like it'sher, and then like Brit's face
is like kind of like coveringher, where like the eyes still
pop out.

SPEAKER_00 (20:18):
Britt's hand is covering my face.
Britt's face is not covering myface.

SPEAKER_02 (20:21):
Oh, sorry, Britt's hand is covering her face.

SPEAKER_00 (20:23):
That would be a whole different kind of album
cover.

SPEAKER_02 (20:26):
Yeah.
Brit's face is covering yourface.

SPEAKER_00 (20:31):
So we did a few shots where so we had uh light
in the back against the blackwall.

SPEAKER_02 (20:37):
The light bulbs.

SPEAKER_00 (20:38):
Yeah.
Just one, just to give lightlight.
It's the only place to go.
Uh and then I brought fromhomework a big white flowy cloak
almost.

SPEAKER_02 (20:53):
Yeah.
Like a robe.
Yeah.
It's like the Jesus robe thatthey use for plays on Christmas.

SPEAKER_03 (20:57):
Where do you work where that's obtainable?

SPEAKER_00 (21:00):
We have a whole costume closet.

SPEAKER_03 (21:03):
They do Oh, you work at a church.

SPEAKER_00 (21:05):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (21:06):
Okay.

SPEAKER_00 (21:06):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (21:09):
How do you obtain that?

SPEAKER_00 (21:12):
I stole it.
No.
Uh, and then I'm standing infront of her and she like
reaches around.
You can see like half her face,and she comes over and like
grabs my face.
But it's like it's actuallyturned out pretty cool.

unknown (21:24):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (21:24):
That sounds really scary.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (21:27):
You might have to cover your eyes.

SPEAKER_03 (21:29):
I might have to.

SPEAKER_02 (21:30):
Honestly, dude, I like the it's really cool that
we're going for like thishaunting vibe.
So there's actually a couple ofpeople that have reached out to
me.
They're like, is there a crowlike some sort of thing to align
here?
Because they notice that likethe past two album covers have
been similar, where it's likethe hand reaching out and then
the hand that's like holding thekey.

SPEAKER_03 (21:48):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (21:48):
And so they're like, something is going on here.

SPEAKER_03 (21:50):
You should have one that does this.
So that people can really getinto the content.
That'll be the last one.

SPEAKER_01 (21:59):
Controversy.

SPEAKER_02 (22:00):
That'll be the EP album cover.

SPEAKER_03 (22:03):
Perfect.

SPEAKER_02 (22:04):
Just uh it's actually Well, what's gonna be
the next one?

SPEAKER_03 (22:10):
They're all hands, right?

SPEAKER_02 (22:12):
Well, the I mean VHS will be the last single before
the EP comes out.
I'm not putting out anymore.

SPEAKER_03 (22:18):
So, but all the singles are gonna have some type
of hand.

SPEAKER_02 (22:22):
The EP will be where we finally put the two hands
together, the one holding thekey and the one.

SPEAKER_03 (22:28):
Okay, then what's what's the single picture for
VHS then?
If you can say.
If it's gonna spoil too much.

SPEAKER_00 (22:35):
That's what I'm still trying to figure out.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, something in thatmovement of that video.
I don't know if it's gonna beher reaching.

SPEAKER_02 (22:43):
Yeah, we're conjoining we did it, guys.

SPEAKER_00 (22:47):
It won't look similar to the last.

SPEAKER_02 (22:49):
The last two.
Yeah, it'll probably be likefull on, where it's like we
finally have a face to show kindof thing.
The the I hate saying the word,but that's like the only word I
could think of, but like thedeity of what our memories and
our mistakes and issues um willbe.

SPEAKER_03 (23:07):
And a deity means God.

SPEAKER_02 (23:10):
That's not the word then.

SPEAKER_03 (23:11):
I think you're thinking of entity.

SPEAKER_02 (23:13):
Entity.

SPEAKER_00 (23:15):
Yeah, I was like deity.
We're going straight sleeptoken.

SPEAKER_02 (23:18):
Oh, yeah, my bad.
Also blasphemous.
Sorry.

SPEAKER_00 (23:21):
Hey.

SPEAKER_02 (23:22):
Hey, we're Christians in a van.

SPEAKER_03 (23:23):
We're not a Christian band, so it's like So
that make that gives us anexcuse to be blasphemous and
heretical.
Yeah.
Alright.

SPEAKER_02 (23:30):
Just kidding.

SPEAKER_00 (23:31):
Wait for Caleb to turn around and grab the Bible
and go, listen, Candy.
That's what I was saying.

SPEAKER_03 (23:39):
This jumbo one, too.
And it's King James.
Oh.

SPEAKER_00 (23:42):
That means it's serious.

SPEAKER_02 (23:43):
That means it's the real one.
I didn't know we were gettingthat crazy.
Yeah, you might open it.
Whoa.

SPEAKER_01 (23:50):
Maybe an effigy?

SPEAKER_02 (23:53):
Ooh.
I forgot.
See.

SPEAKER_01 (23:55):
Caleb's the only one that knows what that means.

SPEAKER_02 (23:57):
What?

SPEAKER_01 (23:58):
It's a word I've heard before.

SPEAKER_02 (23:59):
Effigy.

SPEAKER_03 (24:01):
I actually don't know what that means.
Please tell us.
Yeah, nay, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (24:07):
Caleb's the only one that knows what that means.
That the only other person thatknows what it is.

SPEAKER_03 (24:10):
I've heard of it.
I just don't know what it means.

SPEAKER_02 (24:12):
Yeah.
But no, overall, super cool.
So hopefully October 17th forwhoever is excited for this, be
on the lookout.
Follow Signal the Sky's Band onInstagram and TikTok.

SPEAKER_03 (24:25):
Um You're acting like it's over, dude.

SPEAKER_02 (24:27):
What?
Okay.

SPEAKER_03 (24:29):
That's what you want.
Say it multiple times.
Just say it whenever you can.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (24:32):
Hey guys, follow us on TikTok and Instagram, Signal
the Sky's Band.
At sign Signal Sky.
We do have a Facebook too.

SPEAKER_03 (24:39):
For all the booms.

SPEAKER_02 (24:41):
All the boomers.
Yeah.
No.
Yeah.
All the Unks out there.

SPEAKER_03 (24:44):
Did we find out?
Is that what they call it?
We do have some boomer fans.
Dude, my nephew called me Unkthe other day, and it's cute.
It really hurt me.

SPEAKER_02 (24:53):
You're in your 30s, Unk.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (24:58):
Did you figure out what it means?
Yeah, it's uh has to pull up herphone again.
We didn't memorize it.

SPEAKER_01 (25:03):
A sculpture or model of a person.

SPEAKER_03 (25:06):
Uh I always see when I hear that, now that I heard
the definition, I thought itmeant like a storyline of
somebody.

SPEAKER_02 (25:12):
Like what's that's elegy?
Oh.
Yeah.
Elegy, effigy.

SPEAKER_01 (25:18):
Yeah, the effigy would be the physical
manifestation of something.
What's the eulogy?

SPEAKER_03 (25:23):
Like when I die?

SPEAKER_02 (25:25):
Oh, oh my gosh.
Elegy is like the whole story,but then eulogy is the ending of
the story.

SPEAKER_03 (25:31):
Is elegy even a word?
Yeah.
Like I don't think I've everheard it.

SPEAKER_01 (25:34):
If you say it enough times, any word will sound like
it's not a real world wordanymore.

SPEAKER_02 (25:38):
Like bluffernicus.

SPEAKER_00 (25:40):
That was that a word?
Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (25:45):
The ending makes you seem like you would have been
that guy.
Of that word.
What did it what?
Don't just don't say it again.

SPEAKER_00 (25:52):
Yeah, that was we're gonna get cancelled for that
too.

SPEAKER_03 (25:54):
Oh man, my bad.
But YouTube's gonna pick that upand be like, hey, they said a
word.

SPEAKER_00 (25:59):
Yeah, he's not dark enough to say that.

SPEAKER_03 (26:03):
Exactly.
That's what it's not.
That's oh my bad.
It's giving those vibes kind ofold last name.
Which you don't need to say thateither, but um anyway.
Facebook for the unks.

SPEAKER_02 (26:19):
Facebook for all the unks.

SPEAKER_03 (26:21):
Do you post on Facebook for Facebook?

SPEAKER_02 (26:23):
Um I have the Instagram and Facebook like
tagged together, and I'm tryingto get the TikTok to get the
Facebook, but for some reason,every trying to every time I try
to cook put them together, itlike is like error.
It's not working.
I'm like, why?
Um They used to be connected tothe city.

SPEAKER_03 (26:39):
Is there a way to promote without social media, or
is that like the only way now?

SPEAKER_02 (26:42):
Sadly, social media is like our biggest crutch right
now.

SPEAKER_00 (26:46):
Although I did say it'd be really cool to make some
QR code stickers and then goaround and just stick them
everywhere.

SPEAKER_02 (26:53):
Tag them on the gym and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_03 (26:55):
Yeah, put them on the treadmill.

SPEAKER_00 (26:57):
That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_02 (26:58):
Dude, nobody would know.
Nobody would know.
Nobody would know what.

SPEAKER_00 (27:03):
Gas station pump.

SPEAKER_02 (27:05):
Yeah.
Yeah, dude, they put Bidenstickers on the gas station pump
so we could put QR codes, dude.
Exactly.
That's why that is if you gotthe idea.

SPEAKER_01 (27:14):
But couldn't make like business cards with it and
then make it look reallymysterious.
Like uh, what's that?

unknown (27:22):
That one.

SPEAKER_02 (27:23):
Like the Squid Game thing?
Yes, that's exactly what I wasthinking about.

SPEAKER_01 (27:25):
Squid Game.

SPEAKER_02 (27:27):
Dude, people wouldn't pick it up if we did
that.

SPEAKER_01 (27:29):
Well, it wouldn't be like Squid Game, the place.
Like a little circle, triangle,square.
No, something else mysterious.
Somebody can't put them.

SPEAKER_03 (27:37):
I'm not gonna say who did this because I don't
want to use his name when he'snot around, but a former Amazon
delivery driver that I used toknow would put the podcast on
business cards and like dropthem off with a box.
That's what I'm saying.
Which is illegal, but he did itanyway.
Well, who's who's really gonnaget the law involved with
something like that?

(27:57):
Yeah.
Like, hey, somebody left abusiness card.
And I bet the police would belike it's not worth our time.
911, what's your emergency?

SPEAKER_02 (28:03):
Yeah, people be leaving business cards in my
mailbox.
Okay.

SPEAKER_03 (28:07):
Well, it was with a package, like an Amazon package.
He's gonna text me when thisepisode comes out and be like,
dude, that was me.
Shout out to you, dog.

SPEAKER_00 (28:18):
Does he want to do some QR code stickers?

SPEAKER_03 (28:21):
Yeah, dude.
Ask him if he'll do some QRstickers.
I'll ask him next time becausehe works for a different
delivery company now.

SPEAKER_02 (28:28):
Oh man.
He betrayed Amazon.

SPEAKER_03 (28:31):
Which I can't say.
It's actually like confidential.

SPEAKER_02 (28:34):
Alfedix?

SPEAKER_03 (28:35):
I can't say.

SPEAKER_02 (28:39):
Post post post office?
The US post office.
USPS.
USPS.
Actually, post office, USPO.

SPEAKER_03 (28:48):
Well, it's postal service.
Oh.
Yeah, you drop your stuff off.
Dang it.
Yeah, my bad.
Dude.

SPEAKER_02 (28:55):
I don't use that stuff.

SPEAKER_00 (28:56):
But I appreciate your confidence, and you know,
when you were saying it, youwere.

SPEAKER_02 (28:59):
You don't use the postal service?
I can't say I ever have.
Shame.
Usually when I return stuff toAmazon, I just go to Kohl's.
Because they have the thingthere.

unknown (29:09):
That's true.

SPEAKER_03 (29:09):
What?
Yeah.
They have an Amazon.
Why did you walk into Coles tobegin with?
That's the return something toreturn.
Yeah, but you didn't.
Did you know?
How did you know the Amazonthing was there?
Oh, they tell you.

SPEAKER_02 (29:24):
Yeah, they ask you how you want to return if you
ever do a return.
Have you ever done a return forAmazon?
No.
Okay.
Well, if you ever get the chanceto.

SPEAKER_00 (29:34):
I feel like Caleb's the kind of guy that doesn't
sleep on Amazon, which I alsosupport.

SPEAKER_03 (29:38):
Actually, I barely ever order off Amazon.

SPEAKER_02 (29:40):
Well, how about this?
Order something really cheap onAmazon and then be like, oh, I
don't like it.
And then do I want to do areturn.
And then it's gonna be like, doyou want to go to your local
Kohl's or some other place?

SPEAKER_03 (29:49):
I will say I admire Kohl's business tactic to get
people in there because theyknow they're failing.

SPEAKER_01 (29:55):
Well, yeah, Kohl's is like three feet away from
your house.

SPEAKER_02 (29:57):
Yeah, it really is.
I could walk there, but I

SPEAKER_03 (30:00):
You have one out there?

SPEAKER_02 (30:01):
Yeah.
It's right next door to thehibachi place.
I've never been there, but I'veheard it's good, and I've also
heard like sketchy things aboutit.
Is it?

SPEAKER_01 (30:11):
Yeah, sometimes sketchy is the way.

SPEAKER_02 (30:13):
That's true.

SPEAKER_01 (30:14):
Absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 (30:15):
There's that number one Chinese food place I go to
that's like four or five minutesaway from me.
Sketchiest little spot, but man,that food is good.

SPEAKER_01 (30:22):
Oh, you gotta go to first walk.

SPEAKER_02 (30:24):
Yeah, uh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I've been there too.
Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (30:27):
Alpine does have everything.
It just takes 30 minutes to getanywhere.

SPEAKER_02 (30:31):
Now people know where I live.

SPEAKER_03 (30:35):
Nobody wants to do it.
As if I don't deal with thepaparazzis and it's not worth
driving down Alpine to findsomebody anyway.

SPEAKER_02 (30:42):
So Alpine is horrible.
Traffic can get kind of crazysometimes up there.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (30:51):
They make bumper stickers about how much people
hate Alpine.
Really?
Oh, dude, now I want one.

SPEAKER_04 (30:57):
That's crazy.

SPEAKER_03 (30:59):
Oh, then it uh includes a bad word.
So I wouldn't get one on yourcar.

SPEAKER_02 (31:06):
Yeah, that's true.
I don't condone that behavior.

SPEAKER_03 (31:08):
Yeah, you better not.

SPEAKER_02 (31:09):
Never.

SPEAKER_00 (31:10):
You better not.

SPEAKER_02 (31:11):
Never ever.
But yeah.
So Amazon Amazon.

SPEAKER_03 (31:16):
Amazon delivery.

SPEAKER_02 (31:17):
Those returns you can do it at Kohl's.
I think they do it at Walgreenstoo, sometimes.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (31:23):
Alright, so back to the where we were we were
talking about like Facebook andstuff.
Yeah.
Oh yeah, I was gonna say ifthere's better ways to promote,
to just get off social media.
Because I gotta say, it's beenpeaceful without it.

SPEAKER_02 (31:37):
Yeah, I know.
I think that's the only reason Ikind of like hold on to my
social media is because of theband stuff.
And that's the only way to do itis like building reels and like
making videos or like any chanceto just be like, oh hey, our
song is out, and then puttinglike a cool video with it or
whatever.

SPEAKER_03 (31:54):
Yeah, but do you ever get caught up in the views
and the likes when you postsomething on TikTok?
Like, oh, how many views is thisone getting?

SPEAKER_02 (32:00):
I think I I used to actually get be a lot worse.
I think now I wait a couple daysand be like, oh, sweet, it made
it over a hundred views.
That's pretty good, and thenjust leave it alone from there.
And if I get any likes orcomments or anything like that,
like I actually had this onerandom TikToker um be like, Oh
dude, I just found you guys andI'm so excited for this new
single.
And I'm like, Yeah, it's sick,dude.

(32:22):
And he post it on his on hisstory, and he like does a whole
bunch of like metal.
Oh sweet.
Yeah.
So I think those kinds of thingsalso help in a way.
Um, but yeah, I also justplugged our band too when I was
at Guitar Center a couple daysago.
I was buying that was when wewere on the phone.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, and I was buying a bunchof equipment for the church, and

(32:42):
uh this guy was buying a newinterface, and I was like, Oh,
dude, you should buy this oneinstead because it has like the
warm compressor and stuff likethat.
Like, because that's the one itwas the the UA 276 or whatever
that I want to buy.
The Universal Audio.
Did I show you that one?
The blue one?
No, it's like wood, green, andwhite.
Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (33:00):
Oh, the focus right?

SPEAKER_02 (33:01):
No, it's uh it's well, it's not a focus right,
but it's like the focus rightjust better.

SPEAKER_03 (33:06):
Is it the same brand?

SPEAKER_02 (33:07):
No, it's universal audio.

SPEAKER_03 (33:09):
Oh, okay.
That's yeah, got it.

SPEAKER_01 (33:11):
It's the one I convinced him that he wanted
instead of getting the blue one.

SPEAKER_02 (33:15):
Which that blue one is still pretty dude, focus on
it.

SPEAKER_03 (33:18):
I don't know anything about interfaces.
I just bought that one becauseit works, and I got it
refurbished for like 80 bucks.

SPEAKER_02 (33:24):
Well, now you gotta get a DAW.

SPEAKER_03 (33:26):
What's a DAW?

SPEAKER_02 (33:27):
Digital workstation, you know?
Audio workstation.
Why do I need that?
So you can record garage band.

SPEAKER_03 (33:35):
Oh, yeah, that's it.
Yeah, that's it.
I sent it to John and he's like,dude, this sounds sick.
So I did that misery.
Yeah, I think for like singleinstruments, garage band is
fine.
Yeah, I would say like mixingand stuff, it's probably
terrible.

SPEAKER_02 (33:50):
Dude, I tried, yeah.
I tried, I jumped on garage banda little bit when I was doing uh
a multiple, a multi-track kindof thing for the church, and you
could not do multi-tracks ongarage band.
I'm like, dude, I can't usethis.

SPEAKER_03 (34:03):
What's a multi-track?

SPEAKER_02 (34:04):
It's like when you do multiple recording takes in
one go.
So, like, that's what you woulddo if you're like recording
drums, and then the drums havelike 10 to 13 different
microphones.
So you could do a multi-tracksetting, highlight them all, and
then they would all record atthe same time while you're
playing.

SPEAKER_03 (34:21):
There is a way you can do that because I remember
one time I found out how to dothat when I was first starting
to do the podcast.
Remember when I was like reallyfinicky about editing, we
figured out how to record allthe mics at the same time.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I did you so you could withGarage Band or was that with
Logic?
That was with GarageBand becauseI used my laptop.
Oh.
Yeah.
I don't have Logic or whateverthe other one is.

(34:46):
What's the big one?

SPEAKER_02 (34:47):
Uh, there's Fruity Loops, uh, Ableton, Pro Tools.
Pro Tools.

SPEAKER_03 (34:52):
Pro Tools, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (34:53):
I hate Pro Tools.

SPEAKER_03 (34:54):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (34:55):
So much.
That is the like the one when Iwas in college and they wanted
us to use Pro Tools, and I waslike, what is this?
And then I found out about likeReaper, and I was like, oh,
Reaper's pretty cool.

SPEAKER_03 (35:06):
But so bad about Pro Tools.

SPEAKER_02 (35:08):
It's just overly complex, and some of the stuff
you just can't find.
It's just a lot to learn.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (35:13):
You just have to learn it where things are.

SPEAKER_02 (35:15):
Ableton is crazy too.
That's what Landon uses to mixand master our stuff, is
Ableton.

SPEAKER_03 (35:21):
But if you do learn everything from Pro Tools, does
it become one of the better onesto use?

SPEAKER_00 (35:26):
I mean, yes, if you were to put it on your resume,
you'd get hired.
I mean, I was gonna get likecertified in Pro Tools in
college.
There was like this huge bookand test thing I was gonna go
through.

SPEAKER_03 (35:36):
But now you're Dante certified instead.
Yeah, but what what stopped youfrom doing Pro Tools?

SPEAKER_00 (35:41):
Uh well, I mean I used it through college.
Oh and then I was planning toget certified because that would
look really good on a resume.
And then uh COVID hit.
We all went home.

SPEAKER_03 (35:51):
Oh, COVID uh is a word that gets you demonetized
in YouTube too.

SPEAKER_00 (35:55):
Oh well, 2020 trash sent us home.

SPEAKER_02 (35:59):
Jeez.
Also crazy.

SPEAKER_03 (36:03):
There's like so many words that get you censored.
Anyway, yeah, you like that.
What is that?
What is that?
I got it from some like gymclothing store.
Ah, dude, that's amazing.
And I don't know where to put itbecause I actually like that.

SPEAKER_00 (36:20):
Oh, they can't say that word either.

SPEAKER_03 (36:21):
No, you can't say killer.
Oh you can't say Hitlermurderer, mass shooting, gone.
You can't say anything.

SPEAKER_01 (36:27):
Well, just say, well, dude, that is so cool.
It's like bullet bill-esque.

SPEAKER_03 (36:33):
It is kind of bullet bill.
But I don't know what to put iton, so like I just keep it.
Put it on your laptop, dude.
No.

SPEAKER_02 (36:42):
I would put it on my laptop.

SPEAKER_03 (36:44):
Um, anyway, back to Pro Tools.
That's what we were on.

SPEAKER_02 (36:47):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (36:47):
Um, I feel like you should just learn it.
Just go through all the pains.
But the thing is, I feel likelearning stuff on video is
really annoying because you'relike trying to like figure it
out.
I just do it as I go.
Like all the podcast stuff, Ijust learn more and more as I go
like, oh, this editing video.

SPEAKER_02 (37:05):
Yeah, because what do you use to fully edit your
audio and stuff like that?
Or do you just let because youdo the video programming thing
too, right?

SPEAKER_03 (37:12):
Yeah, I use Cap Cut for video and people would make
fun of me for that because it'slike eight dollars a month.
Dude, Cab Cut is actually But itworks for podcasting because you
don't need anything special forthis.
Yeah, exactly.
And then for audio, the what isit called?
It's almost like what's likeDisco Monkey or whatever it's
called that you use for likesongs.
What is that?

SPEAKER_02 (37:32):
Oh, Distro Kid.
Yeah.
Distro Kid.

SPEAKER_03 (37:34):
What what is monkey?
What is that?

SPEAKER_02 (37:38):
Like that's your distribution.

SPEAKER_03 (37:40):
Okay, yeah.
So I use Buzz Sprout for mydistribution, and they have
something where if you pay alittle extra, they'll just make
all the mic levels even.
Oh, nice.
And like cut out any backgroundnoise automatically.

SPEAKER_02 (37:52):
Yeah.
Oh, dude, United Masters doesthat too.
That's what I use to put ourmusic up.
60 bucks a year, not bad.
Um, but before they let you likeofficially put out your song,
they're like, hey, do you wantlike a United Masters mastered
version of your song orwhatever?
And they show you like a clip ofit and it's like a 30-second

(38:14):
clip and it's like a differentsound.
And I've always I've almostconsidered it.
I almost did it for as a costextra.
It's like five bucks.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (38:23):
Is that the distribution thing that you use
is United Masters?

SPEAKER_02 (38:27):
United Masters for, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (38:28):
And is that who pays you if you make yeah when you
get more plays?

SPEAKER_02 (38:32):
Yeah.
So it's yeah, so I don't know ifI showed you the app.
I have the app on my phone, butit like shows you all of like
your like your progress andstuff like that.
It even like builds you a coupledifferent um like little reels
to like the little post-itthing, like, hey, this song
comes out so and so time.
It also like shows a bunch oflike excuse exclusive things to

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where you can advertise yoursong through a bunch of
different things as well.
Like we could get our song onESPN if we really tried.
Imagine our song being on thenext Maggie.
I mean, they could make ithappen, but it's obvious that it
would have to get approved bythe actual companies too.
Like, let's say, for example, ifwe wanted our song to be on like

(39:16):
2K27, you know, like thebasketball game or whatever.
Like, well, 2K's gotta be like,okay, yeah, this is a good song.
Let's let's put it on there.

SPEAKER_03 (39:25):
Plus, if they did send it out and somehow it ends
up on ESPN 2, dude, I'd beheartbroken.
Dude.
That would be the worst.

SPEAKER_02 (39:31):
ESPN2?
Isn't that the one where theyjust show like the backlogs of
most sports?

SPEAKER_03 (39:35):
It's like poker sometimes.

SPEAKER_02 (39:40):
Can you imagine just VHS in the background while
people are putting it playingblackjack?

SPEAKER_01 (39:45):
ESPN just got WWE.

SPEAKER_02 (39:48):
Oh.
Oh, dude, our song on WWE, dude.

SPEAKER_01 (39:51):
Actually, that would work.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (39:54):
They just bought WWE?

SPEAKER_01 (39:56):
No, they got they did a deal with so they can play
it on ESP.
Yeah, for streaming.
Oh.

SPEAKER_02 (40:03):
And let's face it, like WWE, like, it's great.

SPEAKER_01 (40:07):
Yeah, it's really cool.

SPEAKER_03 (40:08):
Do you guys actually think it's cool?

SPEAKER_02 (40:10):
Dude, there's nothing better than guys
wrestling and throwing chairs ateach other.

SPEAKER_01 (40:15):
Man meat, slapping man meat.
Okay.
You gotta watch it.

SPEAKER_00 (40:20):
That didn't work for me.
There was nothing in thatsentence that encouraged me to
watch it.

SPEAKER_02 (40:27):
But I don't think the Caleb's smile went away for
like three seconds.
He's like, no.

SPEAKER_03 (40:34):
It's just like fake wrestling.

SPEAKER_00 (40:35):
They have girls fight too.
That's the worst.

SPEAKER_03 (40:38):
Yeah, yeah, it is.
It is fake.
Yeah, I just don't think I'dwatch it.

SPEAKER_01 (40:42):
It's fake, but it's like really athletic.
Yeah.
It's interesting to watch.

SPEAKER_02 (40:45):
I mean, these guys will sometimes actually hit each
other.
Like, no joke.

SPEAKER_01 (40:49):
They take real bumps, but like the punches and
stuff are all fake.

SPEAKER_02 (40:52):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (40:52):
But they do like pick each other.

SPEAKER_02 (40:56):
Well, they do it for UFC and stuff.

SPEAKER_03 (40:59):
They use gloves.
But I've heard that those glovesdo actually more damage than
Yeah, because you got the thickpad.

SPEAKER_02 (41:05):
Because it's meant to protect your hands and stuff
like that.

SPEAKER_03 (41:08):
That's why if boxing wasn't rigged, it'd be cool to
watch.
But it is.

SPEAKER_01 (41:12):
See, everybody knows that WWE is fake though, and
that's what makes it fun.

SPEAKER_02 (41:17):
It's just an acting.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's just an act, and it's it'sfun to watch sometimes.

SPEAKER_03 (41:21):
Yeah, I guess.

SPEAKER_02 (41:22):
Like who doesn't like watching John Cena take on
The Undertaker?
You know?
I just have no interest.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (41:28):
I mean, I get it.
I'll watch it for the memory.
Everybody has their thing.
Good for you.

SPEAKER_02 (41:32):
I'll watch it for the meme because it's like, I
mean, come on, John Cena andsome jorts, and he's just like,
you can't see me.

SPEAKER_01 (41:38):
He's retiring this time.
And he's old.

SPEAKER_02 (41:40):
He's so old.

SPEAKER_03 (41:42):
That's one of those things that I have to do.
Like 45.
45.

SPEAKER_02 (41:46):
No way.
He is.
Is he really only 45?

SPEAKER_03 (41:48):
Oh, look at him.
I thought he was older.

SPEAKER_02 (41:51):
I thought so too.
Man's wearing knee braces.

SPEAKER_03 (41:54):
I mean you could wear those at 45.
Yeah.
45 is pretty old.

SPEAKER_01 (41:58):
He's 48.

SPEAKER_03 (42:00):
That's pretty old for his athletics.

SPEAKER_00 (42:03):
Yeah.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (42:04):
Have you ever watched Slap Fighting?

SPEAKER_02 (42:06):
No.
No.

SPEAKER_03 (42:08):
All the slap thing that people have been doing
lately.
Yeah, it's Dana White from theUFC thing started it.

SPEAKER_02 (42:15):
Dude.

SPEAKER_00 (42:15):
I have seen clips of that.

SPEAKER_02 (42:17):
I see those clips sometimes, and I'm like, there
is no way.
Like you are losing an eardrumfrom that catastrophic smack to
the face.

SPEAKER_03 (42:26):
They wear earplugs.

SPEAKER_02 (42:27):
Oh, do they?
Oh, wow.

SPEAKER_00 (42:29):
You would have to.
Mouth guard, probably.

SPEAKER_03 (42:31):
But they're always just like massive dudes.
Yeah.
It's like bang.
But that's gotta be really badbecause they get knocked out
from one slap sometimes.
And like their head hits thetable and they've seen them.
They get back up and then startlike.

SPEAKER_02 (42:46):
That's where our songs need to go, is the slab
fights.

SPEAKER_03 (42:49):
I feel like that'd be kind of a letdown, too.
Like if it was like UFCfighters.

SPEAKER_02 (42:54):
Huh?

SPEAKER_01 (42:54):
That's United Masters.
United Masters.
They do pitching for you.

SPEAKER_02 (42:58):
They can help with the pitching.

SPEAKER_01 (42:59):
So yeah, I mean it's have on pitch to the slap fight.

SPEAKER_02 (43:03):
So it's like they they have different
distributions and stuff likethat.
They give you the options to doso.
So and then like, yeah, oursong, like they're like, oh, we
can try and get your song onpeople's like Twitch accounts
and stuff like that.
Like they could play it orwhatever.
And would you get royalties fromthat?
Oh yeah, 100%.
Yeah.
The thing is, is like whateverlistens you get, then you're

(43:24):
getting paid for that.
And that's based on every disdistributor that we're on.
And we're on like all of them.
Hmm.
Yeah, we're on Spotify, AppleMusic, YouTube, YouTube Music.
Um, some of the ones that evenwe don't even use ourselves.
Like um uh what is that one?
It's like call I think it'scalled like Fiverr or something

(43:45):
like that.

SPEAKER_03 (43:46):
Some isn't that where you pay people to write
stuff for your song?

SPEAKER_02 (43:49):
On what?
Fiverr.
I don't remember.
I don't remember Title.
Title, that's what it is.

SPEAKER_03 (43:56):
Oh yeah, five sorry, Fiverr is the one I think where
the Yeah, you like send yoursong out and be like, hey, I
need someone to play drums onthis, and then you pay yeah
yeah, and then they'll do it.
Oh, that's sweet.

SPEAKER_02 (44:07):
Yeah.
There was one time speaking oflike having somebody like write
lyrics for us for a second, Ijust wanted to find some like
better words to put on one ofour songs.
And just for fun, I was like,let me see what ChatGPT would
say.
And Bree was immediately like,no, we're not using that.
I love Chat GPT lyrics.

SPEAKER_00 (44:28):
I shut that down so quick.
You did.
Absolutely not.

SPEAKER_02 (44:31):
It's okay.
Did you like him?
No, it the he just like likechat or sorry, it's not a he.
It just like made it moreformal.

SPEAKER_03 (44:41):
Somebody gives a little too much power to this.

SPEAKER_02 (44:43):
I know.
Sorry.
That was an accident.
I take it back.
I don't actually like Chat GPT.
My Bailey uses ChatGPT foreverything.

SPEAKER_04 (44:51):
Like to they them.

SPEAKER_02 (44:56):
They them?
Yes, I think that's fair.

SPEAKER_03 (44:58):
Cancelled they them is the funniest out of all of
the gender identities, I think.
Because how do you like why?

SPEAKER_02 (45:07):
I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 (45:07):
Would you because like there's this guy, the
shipping and receiving guy atwork who's like just against all
of that.

SPEAKER_02 (45:14):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (45:14):
And he's in like these group chats, and sometimes
they'll sneak onto his computerand be like, yeah, sounds good.
By the way, my pronouns are nowthe but it's funny because he's
like a hu like a bodybuilder.
But he's still he's 23, so hestill has like the young face.
Oh, yeah.
He's a really funny dude.

(45:35):
That's funny.
He's he's really funny though.

SPEAKER_02 (45:37):
I love that.
I would play it prank like that.
Oh my gosh.
I don't understand that thatgender thing.
It does it never makes sense tome.

SPEAKER_03 (45:47):
Yeah, it's crazy it is uh wild.
They them.
But that would be what chat GTPwould probably be is they then.
Thear.
Or it, whatever it slash.

SPEAKER_02 (45:58):
I don't yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (46:00):
It slash it.

SPEAKER_02 (46:01):
What if somebody is what if somebody is like a we
us?

SPEAKER_03 (46:06):
I identify as we that would be a demon, because
that's how demons that's Legion.

SPEAKER_02 (46:10):
Yeah.
Whoa.
Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 (46:13):
Is that from a movie?

SPEAKER_03 (46:14):
No, that's from the Bible.

SPEAKER_01 (46:16):
Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_03 (46:17):
No, it is from the people the Bible, the people.
But there is also Legion.
Isn't it about that?
Is that the one where thegrandma like crawls on the
ceiling?
Yes.
She's like, Oh, you're soterrible, and then she just
starts climbing on the stairs.

SPEAKER_02 (46:33):
Dude, I remember that trailer.
I've never seen that movie, butI remember that trailer popping
up.

SPEAKER_03 (46:38):
I remember that was like one of the scariest things,
and now everything that comesout is just like that's why I
won't c watch Constantineanymore.

SPEAKER_02 (46:46):
That movie was cool, but learning that it's like
super demonic.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (46:50):
Yeah.
I don't even know that movie.

SPEAKER_02 (46:52):
I think you would have liked it if you're like
into those movies.
I know you don't like a lot oflike scary or like spiritually
effective movies.

SPEAKER_03 (47:00):
I don't like scary either.

SPEAKER_01 (47:02):
Well, you really watch high school musical and a
scary movie in the same movie.

SPEAKER_02 (47:07):
Let's watch the scary movie and then high school
musical after to like.

SPEAKER_00 (47:11):
I will not do a scary movie either.
I will not.

SPEAKER_03 (47:13):
I have to stay here by myself and I will stay up all
night.
Ever since midsunday.

SPEAKER_01 (47:18):
Did you say though?
Literally in a fortress ofsolitude.

SPEAKER_02 (47:22):
Yeah, dude, you got knights walking around here all
the time.
I don't care.

SPEAKER_00 (47:25):
Still the hallway with their spears.
You're right in their Caleb.

SPEAKER_02 (47:29):
These windows.

SPEAKER_03 (47:31):
These windows are ground level.

SPEAKER_01 (47:32):
You live in a fortress.

SPEAKER_03 (47:34):
It is.
Yeah, just don't tell themexactly which one.
Um the scary movies really dofreak me out.
I remember when I watchedMidsummer, I had to have the
lights on for a whole week.

SPEAKER_02 (47:45):
Midsummer is a weird one.

SPEAKER_03 (47:46):
Yeah, it was terrible.
And then and then since that Idon't really watch them.

SPEAKER_02 (47:50):
That movie's nuts.

SPEAKER_00 (47:51):
No, I won't either.
I I'm going to a bacheloretteparty in a few weekends, and
they're going to uh like ahaunted house maze thing.
And I'm like, uh no, I won't.
First of all, I'm not gonna pay$60.
Second of all,$60 for like$50something dollars.
But I'm like, nope.
I said, I just I very muchbelieve in spiritual warfare and

(48:14):
angels and demons, and Satanwill use that against me in my
head.

SPEAKER_02 (48:18):
Until one of them tries to scare you and they got
like bad breath, dude.

SPEAKER_00 (48:22):
I won't.

SPEAKER_02 (48:22):
I remember one time I went to a scary, like a
haunted house thing, and likethis girl got up in my face, and
I was like, you need gum.

SPEAKER_00 (48:29):
Just go back through and give her a breath.

SPEAKER_02 (48:31):
Like the scariest part about this is your breath.
Well, that's literally what Itold her.
I was like, girl, you need gum.

SPEAKER_00 (48:38):
You're like, wait, she's actually dead.

SPEAKER_03 (48:41):
What if she was?
That'd be so good.

SPEAKER_00 (48:43):
That's what I'm saying.
That's why your breath smells sobad.

SPEAKER_03 (48:45):
Um, the only ones that I can do are the corn mazes
where people like it's like jumpstuff.
Oh, dude, the corn mazes withthe if they're gonna do like
depictions of stuff, I can't.
But I've worked at uh corn mazewhere all there was was like you
just dress up and pop out.
It was really fun.

SPEAKER_00 (49:02):
I'll do a corn maze just to like walk through it.

SPEAKER_03 (49:05):
But watch out for the melon beds.
I feel like having a corn mazewould be like the perfect thing
to be a serial killer.

SPEAKER_02 (49:13):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (49:18):
Nope.

SPEAKER_00 (49:18):
So you're never going through a corn maze ever
again now.

SPEAKER_03 (49:22):
Maybe not in today's not in today's world.
They'd be caught so fast, butlike during their prime in like
the 70s.

SPEAKER_02 (49:28):
You know, there's still people that'll walk around
in the clown costumes to scarepeople.

SPEAKER_03 (49:33):
Well, the more they're just gonna get killed.

SPEAKER_02 (49:35):
So you can't say that word.

SPEAKER_03 (49:39):
Yep, it's okay.

SPEAKER_00 (49:40):
Can't say assassinated either.

SPEAKER_03 (49:42):
Dude, can't say that.
Can't say me.

SPEAKER_00 (49:45):
What do they say?
Uh unalived.

SPEAKER_03 (49:47):
Unalived.

SPEAKER_00 (49:48):
Unalived.
I hate that so much.

SPEAKER_03 (49:50):
That's why I just don't censor because I don't
care if YouTube doesn't pay meand they're not paying me anyway
right now.
So I just but if you think aboutit, if you were in YouTube shoes
and you could get people to makevideos, especially with tons of
views, to get people on yourplatform and find out a way to
not pay them, that'd be the wayto do it.

SPEAKER_02 (50:07):
Yeah.
Yeah.
100%.
I would do it that way.

SPEAKER_03 (50:12):
That's just that's just the but it is annoying to
listen to with like essay forlike sexual assault.
They have to say like, then hegot essayed and I'm like.

SPEAKER_00 (50:21):
Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_03 (50:22):
Or they censor it and it's just annoying to listen
to.
You just gotta have the comedicbeeping sound though, you know.
Yeah, but that's also annoyingafter a while because they have
to beep like every word.
Yeah, why don't we gottaespecially for like true crime?

SPEAKER_01 (50:36):
We're doing demonetization maxing.

SPEAKER_03 (50:40):
Yeah.
My favorite one has beenSpongeBob Maxing.
Like somebody who works at theirjob happily and doesn't know
anything.
There's like a Gordon Ramsayvideo, and someone's like, bro,
is Spongebob Maxing right now?
That's awesome.
Gen Z has the best lingo.

SPEAKER_02 (51:02):
They do.

SPEAKER_00 (51:02):
It's pretty fun.

SPEAKER_02 (51:04):
I hate some of it though.
Because I still I still can'tget over the we were just
talking about this the otherday, the whole 6'7 thing.
Oh my gosh.
I don't know what that means.
Apparently, it's just not a likeso the way we were educated
about it, it's like apparentlyit's like a basketball player or
somebody, and that's like theirheight is six seven, but they
just like the way they said it'sa lot of things.

(51:25):
It's just a non-comedic, comedicmeme for the the the Gen Zers.
It means nothing.
Or is it Gen Alpha?

SPEAKER_01 (51:33):
It means nothing.
It means absolutely nothing.

SPEAKER_02 (51:34):
Yeah, if you look up if you look up the term for 6'7
and why it's funny, they'relike, oh, it's just a it means
nothing, but it's funny.

SPEAKER_01 (51:42):
Like uh in Friends when the guy goes, hey, or
whatever.

SPEAKER_02 (51:45):
It's like us, it's like us when we do our thing and
then nobody knows what we'redoing.

SPEAKER_03 (51:48):
Oh, but like Oh yeah, yeah, okay.
I do know that.
Yeah.
So it's the same thing.
Yeah.
Just widespread.

SPEAKER_02 (51:56):
But yeah, but they're just like, oh they they
do it at my wife's school allthe time because they're just
like six seven, six, seven.
And then when she's likecounting numbers or whatever,
and she like takes her she liketakes a pause between six and
seven so the kids don't noticeit.

SPEAKER_01 (52:10):
So it's if I were a teacher, I would be like five,
six, seven, eight, nine, I wouldplay it.
Yeah, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_02 (52:23):
There are moments where where my wife will try to
say some of the things that thekids say, and they're like, no,
you can't say that.

SPEAKER_04 (52:32):
Yeah, yep.

SPEAKER_02 (52:34):
But she hates it, so she won't do it.

SPEAKER_03 (52:36):
I could not be a teacher in today's.
So kudos to her.

SPEAKER_02 (52:40):
Yeah.
She's she's doing the Lord'swork, that's for sure.

SPEAKER_00 (52:44):
There's a crown in heaven specifically for
teachers.

SPEAKER_02 (52:46):
Yeah, dude.

SPEAKER_00 (52:47):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (52:48):
Yeah, they they work hard.
And I know two of them, so it'slike they both work really,
really hard in that.
And it's just an annoying areaof work.
I don't know how they do it.

SPEAKER_00 (52:58):
My dad always said it's a calling.
You don't just go into it forlike for funsies.

SPEAKER_02 (53:02):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (53:03):
A calling that you're given.

SPEAKER_02 (53:06):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (53:07):
I feel like I could be a teacher for fun.

SPEAKER_00 (53:09):
You'd be a fun substitute teacher, maybe.
Uh-huh.
Oh, dude, you could teach socialstudies.

SPEAKER_02 (53:16):
Social studies.
Like US history.

SPEAKER_03 (53:18):
What is social studies?
History.

SPEAKER_02 (53:20):
Oh, yeah.
I feel like social studies washistory.

SPEAKER_03 (53:22):
But why isn't it just called history?

SPEAKER_01 (53:24):
Because they also teach you about like the
government.

SPEAKER_02 (53:27):
And socialism.

SPEAKER_01 (53:28):
Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (53:29):
Then I could uh I could say the word Hitler and
not get in trouble.

unknown (53:33):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (53:33):
You could say assassination, not get in
trouble.

SPEAKER_03 (53:36):
Yeah, dude.
Um, as fun fact, Nazi actuallystands for National Socialism.
So really isn't that crazy?

SPEAKER_02 (53:45):
So it is okay to play secret Hitler now.

SPEAKER_00 (53:47):
Really crazy.

SPEAKER_02 (53:48):
Yeah.
Huh.
Good to know.
So anyway, Signal the Sky's Bandon Instagram and TikTok.

SPEAKER_04 (53:55):
Thanks for tuning in.

SPEAKER_02 (53:58):
Um, I want to get back to it a little bit because
going back, we are planning torelease an EP, I think.
Oh, yeah.
Hopefully by yeah.
Hopefully by the end of theyear.
It's gonna have six songs.
I almost went like this.

SPEAKER_04 (54:11):
Six or seven.

SPEAKER_02 (54:12):
Six and a half, actually, because we don't count
the oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_03 (54:18):
Dude, name the EP six seven.

SPEAKER_02 (54:20):
That'll be the next EP.
The death of the death of sixseven.

SPEAKER_03 (54:25):
Uh, but I'm gonna be honest, I don't think it's gonna
be out by the end of the year.

SPEAKER_02 (54:28):
Probably not.
Just the way we're we're workingon it.
Um, yeah, we're just trying toget everything done.
I think we still need to like weneed to fix vocals on one of
them, and then we still need toput vocals on the other two.
Um, we actually need to finishthe lyrics for two of them
still, or they're still in thewriting process a little bit.
Um, and then most importantly,obviously drums, and with drums

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comes the bass.
So uh Jay, get on it, dude.
He's so nervous, he doesn't wantto talk.
Just kidding.
We miss you, Jay.
Hopefully, hopefully when hehears this, he'll he'll be like,
Yeah, dude, I got it.
That's exactly what he wouldsay.

(55:11):
Yeah, but no, three more songs,and then yeah, just the
interlude just for funsies,because I thought overall, um,
it's obviously like the sameinstrumentation as lately, which
is the song that just came out,what, two months ago now?
Some some somewhere around.

SPEAKER_00 (55:25):
When did that come out?

SPEAKER_02 (55:26):
Wasn't that June?

SPEAKER_03 (55:29):
It was June.

SPEAKER_02 (55:29):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (55:30):
Because we took those pictures in June.

SPEAKER_02 (55:32):
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, it is like four monthsago.
Uh you know what's crazy is thatlike I made myself a goal
because like last year, and thiswas before all of you guys like
fully joined in.
I was like, I'm just gonna putthree songs out just cuz, and
then three songs ended upbecoming five, and then with
those five, I already wrote likethree other songs already,

(55:54):
basically.
And um, like the first singleoff of the EP, which was Escape,
which is finally where kind oflike introducing Breeze, now
officially a huge part of theband with all the cool synth
stuff that she wrote, and herlittle bit of vocals and stuff
like that in that, and then kindof making her the frontman for
these last two songs right now.

SPEAKER_00 (56:15):
Which is crazy.

SPEAKER_02 (56:16):
Yeah.
Yeah, like a front woman.
Sorry, front woman.

SPEAKER_03 (56:20):
Front woman.

SPEAKER_00 (56:21):
Thank you, Caleb.

SPEAKER_03 (56:22):
Thank you.
I stand up for women feminismright here.
Um also I think late or notlately, but leaving should be
redone.
You said that.
I can't do the I can't do theauto-tune.

SPEAKER_02 (56:37):
Like I when I listened to it, I was still not
confident in my vocals yet.
Like that was where I was likefor the books.

SPEAKER_03 (56:45):
For the books?
I'm yeah.
Let's do it, let's do it.
Everything like and then what Iplayed was just like wasn't
good.
Uh uh, because I was whateverreason, but that's when you were
already planning to break upwith me.

SPEAKER_02 (56:56):
That's why.
No, that wasn't a lot.
I'm just kidding.

SPEAKER_03 (56:59):
Right after they took up I go through little
slumps where I stop practicingand yeah.
Well, you were focused on thepodcast.
If I don't practice, yeah.
If I don't practice, then myskill goes out the window.

SPEAKER_02 (57:10):
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, you were more focused on thepodcast when I was like starting
to really focus in on the musica lot more.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, no, 2024 was actually a areally crazy year for for
writing music because it wasjust for me, it was just
non-stop.
Um, and then I was just comingup with more and more ideas, and
you know, like the only one Ithink that I didn't do a lot to

(57:32):
was if I was happy.
The if I was happy was actuallylike somebody else wrote it, and
then they get like I bought itfrom them.
And so, and then I just editedthe guitars a little bit more
and then it became what it was.
So I cheated on that one.
You did.
I did.
It's okay.
That's why there's not anothersong like it though.

(57:55):
But we have two songs with thesame kind of drum intro, which
is something Caleb pointed out,and I never noticed it until
now.
The blata blata, because if if Iwas happy and escape does that.

unknown (58:06):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (58:08):
Whoopsies, that's okay.

SPEAKER_03 (58:09):
We should just start every song with like that.

SPEAKER_02 (58:11):
Yeah.
I I I do like I don't know whatit is about a snare flam, but I
love a nice snare flam.
If you don't know what that is,that's like an off it's like on
beat, but with a slightlyoffbeat hit on the snare.

SPEAKER_03 (58:25):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (58:25):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (58:26):
The idea for the EP is like what five songs?

SPEAKER_02 (58:31):
Six songs.
Six and a half with thatinterliver.

SPEAKER_03 (58:34):
And first it was three.

SPEAKER_02 (58:36):
No, no, no.
Um, no, going back to it, I lastyear when like leaving
pneumonia, violet, um, if I washappy, and Alliance.
Um, I was actually planning onputting Alliance out like this
year, but I was just like, stuffhappened, obviously, and I was
like, you know what?
I'm feeling a a little a littlepetty petty, and I was also

(58:58):
feeling a little motivated,like, let's just put another
song out.
So I know, dude.

SPEAKER_03 (59:04):
Petty will get you nowhere.

SPEAKER_02 (59:05):
Yeah, I know.
But hey, a lot of people didlike that song.
A lot of people did like thatone.

SPEAKER_00 (59:09):
Got him a song.

SPEAKER_02 (59:10):
Yeah, and then uh uh I'll tell you what, I think
that's when I finally like wasable to find my actual clean
vocals, like when I was singingon that one.
Like my cleans are probably alot better, but I like doing the
see everything that I do foryou, dude.
Even even when you're gone, youstill you still help me out.

(59:30):
What a guy.

SPEAKER_03 (59:31):
That's so nice.

SPEAKER_02 (59:33):
Anyway, so yeah, my my goal for 2024 was just to put
three songs out, and it was justgonna be leaving pneumonia and
violet.
And then yeah, I heard for thethe instrumentation for if I was
happy, and I was like, huh, thatshould be fun.
And I think I worked on that onefor like two or three months,
and it was like, I don't know, Iwas I think I was in like a

(59:54):
depressed era because obviouslythat song is pretty sad.
Um for how for how happy itsounds like.
If I was happy.

SPEAKER_03 (01:00:01):
Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (01:00:02):
Yeah.
And so, and then yeah, and thenstuff happened, and then I
started writing this crazy,almost dissonant sounding guitar
track, and then I sent it toBrie, and then I was like, oh
man, this sounds cool.
And then I started getting alittle bit more intense with it.
Like, that's when drop B waslike really my favorite tuning
then, too.
So I was like, Yeah, let's dothat.

(01:00:23):
And then I made this weird, Ithink I got it from Sleep Token,
which was that weird octavephasey sound for that little
breakdown on Alliance, which bythe way, you're gonna have to
figure out how to do that.
Being our new guitar player,Anna, you gotta you gotta figure
out all my crazy tricks.

SPEAKER_01 (01:00:40):
Um I did though, I figured out both parts at once.

SPEAKER_02 (01:00:44):
Yeah.
She sent a video, we'll I'llshow it to you guys later, but
she can play both guitar partson leaving, no problem.
Talented.

SPEAKER_00 (01:00:52):
Like at the same time.

SPEAKER_02 (01:00:53):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (01:00:54):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (01:00:54):
Double neck guitar?

SPEAKER_02 (01:00:55):
Yeah.
No, one neck.
Oh.
Four hands though.

SPEAKER_03 (01:00:59):
Oh, okay.
And pose.

SPEAKER_02 (01:01:04):
But yeah, so five songs ended up being what 2024
happened, and then I don't know.
I obviously like mistakes andissues.
That album type originally itwas gonna be an album when we
had Alec and Nathaniel being apart of it all.

SPEAKER_03 (01:01:20):
It's that old.

SPEAKER_02 (01:01:21):
It's that I that concept was is that old.

SPEAKER_03 (01:01:23):
Whoa.

SPEAKER_02 (01:01:24):
Yeah.
And so now it's it's it's cominginto fruition, and I'm so super
excited.
And obviously, like this albumjust talks about pointing out
the obviously is all themistakes and issues that I
myself have been dealing with,and I mean Brie kind of too.
And I think when we look at it,like I think we've all dealt
with similar situations that aregonna be talked about in this in

(01:01:46):
this EP.
So just the idea of like beingreminiscent and being in the
hurt and trying to figure outwhy we're hurt.
So it's gonna be really, reallycool.

SPEAKER_03 (01:01:58):
All right, sweet.
Well, we are at an hour, so Idon't know.
Does anybody else have anythingthat they want to mention?

unknown (01:02:06):
Nothing.

SPEAKER_03 (01:02:07):
I'll take that as a no.

SPEAKER_02 (01:02:08):
Dude, signal the skies banned on TikTok, on
Instagram, and uh for all theyou know the unks out there,
Facebook is just signal theskies, dude.

SPEAKER_03 (01:02:16):
And then the single comes out October October 17th
is the plan.
So but it might be the twentyfourth.

SPEAKER_02 (01:02:22):
Yeah, follow our pages and you you'll get to know
everything.

SPEAKER_03 (01:02:26):
All right, thanks everybody listening.
Bye, love you.

SPEAKER_02 (01:02:28):
Bye.