32: The Red Flannel Boys: Modern Dating And Guns

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'm going to crack a cold one with the boys.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
I cracked mine early.
Yeah, you beat us.

Speaker 3 (00:10):
Yeah, you did, it's all right.
I got my black tea, though.
It's really good.

Speaker 1 (00:15):
And I've got my Dr Pepper.

Speaker 3 (00:18):
Ooh Dr Pepper.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
Ethan, what do you?

Speaker 3 (00:22):
have.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
Coke, so are we going to address the elephant in the
room.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
What's the elephant in the room?
The fact that you're back.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
No, that we're all wearing red flannel.
That's true.
I was hoping people would seethat and think wow

Speaker 1 (00:37):
what a cute idea, what a cute idea, but now here
it is.
There's the elephant in theroom.
We're all wearing red flannelssure am the red flannel boys red
flannel boys the other elephantin the room is ethan is back
from his trip yeah, three peopleclapping is so lame.
Oh, my god, that was loud Ididn't even get allowed.

Speaker 4 (00:58):
What clapping, yeah, oh you can go for it.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
Oh man, that wasn't even loud.
I didn't even get it loud.
What Clapping.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
Oh, you can.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
Go for it, woo.

Speaker 3 (01:12):
All right, we're going to move on.
Yeah, we're going to move onnow.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
Thanks for the clap Ethan.
We all appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (01:18):
Yep, welcome back to the podcast.
This is also your first andlast stream here.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
Yep Getting kicked out already yep, all right,
folks, thanks for listening.

Speaker 3 (01:30):
We'll see you next week so what are we talking
about today, caleb?

Speaker 1 (01:38):
well, I was just going to talk about how, like
you guys are both ugly, so whathas dating?

Speaker 4 (01:42):
been like for you guys.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
Ethan, I haven't been really trying to be honest,
well, and I've also been gone,so it's kind of hard to date.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
But didn't you meet a girl out in arizona?

Speaker 4 (01:59):
I did you don't have to use your name.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
Oh, by the way, we're not using names yeah, yeah, you
can.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
if you want to refer to anybody from the past, like
Fatso or whatever, Don'tactually use that name either.
We're not using like you canmake up names.

Speaker 3 (02:14):
Demeaning belittling words no, not demeaning,
belittling words.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
but just no names.
But anyway, girl from Arizona,didn't you meet one?
No names, but anyway girl fromArizona.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
Didn't you meet one?
Yeah, she was also hiking theArizona Trail during the time,
so I met her in the Grand Canyon, but it didn't work out.
Yeah, but you guys could havehad your wedding there.
That would have been cool.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
Speaking of cool, you can take your flannel off now
that everybody knows that, yeah,dude, that was a great three
seconds.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
I'm good for now.
I mean just for now.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
Is the red light on on the camera?

Speaker 3 (02:50):
Okay, just wanted to make sure I can't see it.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
So if it goes out, then just continue talking.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
We'll just yeah, we'll just keep going yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
All right, take that coat off and we'll get back to
the story I'm good, like kind ofa little bit.
No, you talked about it at thebeginning that you wanted it off
.
Now get it off, oh my god,that's aggressive.

Speaker 3 (03:11):
I'm kidding, it's a hostile work environment yeah,
what kind of, what kind of?

Speaker 1 (03:16):
podcast is this a fun one anyway.
So it didn't work out.
That's where we were in thestory, but why didn't it work?
Yeah, why didn't it well?

Speaker 2 (03:25):
I was just where, when and why so I was going from
town to town and like our textsweren't like very consistent,
but even then I would like texther and then she wouldn't text
me back for like three to fivedays later, dang.
So it's like it's not even likeI got a message and then I got
it later in town.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
It was like just straight, not even getting
texted back, so pretty muchghosted yeah, but could you also
say that it was from you beingout in the middle of nowhere,
like how was the reception?

Speaker 2 (03:58):
yeah, like, yeah, but her, she got back and she was
had reception the whole time youknow I mean, so it's like, ouch
, it's like.
And then she would be like oh,I was really busy, or blah, blah
, blah really busy is a good oneand is yeah, it's just not not
true?
I mean, if you're gonna maketime, you're gonna make time,
you know right yeah, now I Iwill.

Speaker 3 (04:19):
Can.
I will confirm that, sincetechnology has, like,
significantly improvedthroughout the years, most
people, as sad as it sounds,have their phones and staring at
their screen probably about 70to 80% of their day.
There's no reason why you can'trespond.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
Yeah but, what is an acceptable amount of time to
respond, because sometimes it'slike you'll be sitting there,
I'll see it, but I don't want torespond because I don't want to
have a texting conversation allday long right?

Speaker 3 (04:50):
well, I'll say this is an example.
There are some friends outthere that I do have not you or
you but there's not be there.
There's a couple friends I haveout there that occasionally what
they'll do is they'll justshoot me a text message and be
like oh hey, man, like how's itgoing?
You know, just normal convo,and then I'm wanting to continue
drawing or something like that.

(05:10):
I'm really getting into it andI'd rather not have any
distractions.
I will usually wait, for mepersonally.
I think it varies on the person, but I think for me personally,
I would say about an hour ortwo, maybe three, depending on
what I'm doing.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
Yeah, because that's super short.
I was gonna say like two days.

Speaker 3 (05:29):
Well, unless you're talking about like a dating
perspective of things, and Idon't really know the person,
I'm still getting to know themI'd probably say at least a day
or two at most, I think isreasonable yeah, but it's not
five days, it's way too long.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
Yeah, if you, because you're not five days, it's way
too long.

Speaker 3 (05:45):
Yeah, if you cause you're not leaving that person
like hanging for too long, likeyou could genuinely be busy,
plus you have your own life todo.
You know what?

Speaker 1 (05:52):
I mean, and sometimes you just don't want to respond.
I think that's perfectly fineIf it's like you don't want to.
Yeah, right away.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
But if you're going to also sit there and after five
days just you're not interestedin that way, or you just are,
you thought you were interestedbut you're not, don't ghost.
That's one thing I absolutelyhate about people is and stuff

(06:28):
like that, versus just beingghosted.

Speaker 1 (06:30):
What if she hits you with like you're just the
ugliest person I've ever met andI'd rather stay a brother, a
sister and brother in Christ.

Speaker 3 (06:39):
I would rather hear that than I would be just like
absolute silence, because, yeah,I can't help that.
I'm ugly, you know it's, it'swhatever.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
But yeah, you're not, you're not.
No, I don't, I don't.
But that's what she said to meat the end, anyway she said you
were ugly no not surprised, butno, like that.

Speaker 3 (06:56):
That's how it is, though is like don't ghost, I
would rather again hear that I'mugly and then just all right,
I'm ugly and proud, I'll move on, you know, but then it's like
you get other things where it'sjust like I had to throw that in
there.
But yeah, then you get womenthat will just be like.
Or, you know, for women, guysthat'll be like, you know, oh, I

(07:18):
just don't like yourpersonality, I don't feel like
we really clicked or anythinglike that.
But also they do it way toosoon, I feel like.
I feel like you should at leastgive it a month, maybe two to
three weeks at most, before youmake a decision, because I'm not
going to sit there after thefirst date, like for the women
that I've dated.
After the first date that I'vehad, I've I always give them the

(07:41):
benefit of a doubt because I'mlike okay, maybe they got some
stuff going on, whatever, evenif I don't feel like we're
clicking right away.
Like for my last girlfriendthat I had, for example, I
didn't feel like me and her wereclicking right away and I
thought, like this, this mightnot work out, like I'm not
really sure how I feel about.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
Are you together now?
No, turns out, you were right,are you saying?

Speaker 2 (08:03):
are you saying you like, you pushed it like more
than just one day.
Yeah, like I pushed it morethan one day, because it's not
fair to either party.

Speaker 3 (08:10):
I feel like at that point, like if, whether you're
trying to move on from like apast relationship or whether you
know you're, she's trying tolike give guys another chance,
kind of thing, like you want tostrive to at least again give
the benefit of a doubt, likestep in their shoes or at least
just try, yeah, again, more thanone or two dates well, the

(08:31):
first, the first date is alwayscrap anyways well, yeah, it
always is 100 I've had somepretty good first ones before
have

Speaker 2 (08:39):
really yeah, where it's just like we're talking,
laughing, hanging out youthought it was great, she
thought it was terrible, shewent on a second one.
Or it's just like we're talking, laughing, hanging out.
You thought it was great, shethought it was terrible, she
went on a second one.

Speaker 4 (08:47):
Or it's either the first or the second.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
It's either the first or the second is usually like
terrible, so like you need toget to at least three or four.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
Yeah, but as a guy too.
If you go on a first date andyou just know you're not
attracted to them at all, youmight as well not waste their
time.

Speaker 3 (09:05):
That as well, not waste their time.
That's true, because we do.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
We do base things more on looks than women do like
with like mostly.
So like if you just know rightoff the bat you are not
attracted to this person, Iwouldn't waste their time.

Speaker 3 (09:14):
If you think like maybe there's something there
and it can grow, then I'd go forit, but usually on the first
date, you know that's true, wellthat you know that way can
swing towards women too in a way, because it's not like they're
gonna date like the guy from thewhale and like is that a really
big person?

(09:35):
yeah, they're not gonna sitthere like as soon as he walks
in the door through applebeesand be like oh, maybe this guy's
got a great personality.
No, they're gonna be like Idon't know this guy at all.

Speaker 1 (09:44):
Yeah, yeah, okay, Women do like, don't care as
much about looks, but obviouslylike in that case.
Yeah, it's like he's 500-poundcouch potato, I can't do this
yeah, that's the thing too, forboth parties.

Speaker 3 (10:00):
But again, like you are right, men do look more at
you know, looks than they do.
Like an emotion, like man, Ibet you she cares a lot about
kids or something like that, youknow yeah, well, I'm not
thinking about that.
No, no, it's just that's howwomen think.
Is there like maybe this guy'slike really good, like as an
emotional support person?

Speaker 1 (10:18):
yeah, they do tend to think that way more, but
there's like a little bit oflooks in there, yeah yeah, yeah.
So what back to the main story,uh, main story, main story,
yeah so pretty much whathappened.

Speaker 2 (10:34):
There was like we were texting back and forth and
then she just didn't want totext back what if it really
happened that she fell into thegrand canyon and passed away?
Uh, she was out of the GrandCanyon.

Speaker 4 (10:43):
She already knew she was home.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
Well, there ain't no way somebody let you go.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
so she died.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
There's no way she was also from a different state,
so that brings.

Speaker 4 (10:56):
Ohio.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
Another state, Another state New York Ew that's
why I mean that's pretty far.
That would be far for me todrive.
Yeah, I mean that's pretty far,that would be far for me to
drive.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
She was probably yeah , that's.
I feel like that's not.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
Or her to drive.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
I feel like that's not a doable long-distance
relationship.
No, because what is that 17hours?

Speaker 2 (11:19):
Yeah, yeah, I think it's 16 if you go through Canada
, or 14 to 16 if you go throughCanada, or 14 to 16 if you go
through Canada Either way.

Speaker 3 (11:25):
Yeah, that's too long .
What would?

Speaker 1 (11:26):
be the limit for you guys for a long distance.

Speaker 3 (11:29):
I don't know, because I'll say my buddy, my buddy
Raden, he had a girlfriend fromhad.
Had, yes, had, from France.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
Oh man, that's far.

Speaker 3 (11:42):
Yeah, and so how they met is there's like an online
country, like, yeah, the countryfrance yeah, the state dude
continue.
I'm sorry, that's just likethat's way too far no, it
definitely is, but this is I'mgetting to like how they met,
kind of like so so raiden.
He was taking french classes inhigh school and stuff, and so

(12:03):
he was struggling for a bit, buthis teacher gave him like uh
online website that sorry sorry,that's not a red flannel.
We have to end the podcast.
Sorry, sorry guys, you only get13 minutes this week yeah yeah
I'm sorry hey or, or get out youimagine we just pan the camera

(12:26):
over the door and he's justwalking out.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
That would be mean.

Speaker 1 (12:34):
By the way, I have to go to the bathroom.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
Oh, great, yeah, you already have to go, yeah.

Speaker 3 (12:39):
So I might have to like mute my mic and you guys
can.
Yeah, that's fine.
Just if you need to, you guyscan just keep talking.
Fine, just if you need to, youguys can just keep talking.
Go for it okay, I'll be back sobasically what happened with
radin was his teacher gave himlike a website to like an online
kind of like language uh, helpthing.

(12:59):
Yeah, and it was with it linkedpeople from whatever language
you're trying to learn.
So if you're trying to learnSpanish, like Mexico or Spain or
whatever, if you're trying tolearn Canadian, whatever.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
So you had to learn another language for this girl?
Is what you're saying?

Speaker 3 (13:15):
It's basically so you got him who's in the United
States, and then you got herthat's in France, and she was
trying to learn English and hewas trying to learn english and
he was trying to learn french,and so what they?
Do is in the middle, so theycan meet in the middle so she
can teach him and he can teachher.
And, yeah, teach them yeah, sheand she was a really she gosh

(13:36):
and she was a really goodlooking gal and whatnot like.
I met her a few times and herfrench accent was very thick and
, yeah, that was the one thingthat I was like whoa what the?
heck, because I've met somepeople from different parts of
the country before, like Russia,where there's like a really
thick, like Russian accentedwoman and she was at Walgreens
one day with me and she was liketalking to me about some of the

(13:58):
cosmetology stuff and I waslike I don't understand half of
what you're saying, but I meansure, awesome.
But she had broken english.
So that's kind of like how umrayden's ex-girlfriend was and
she had a little bit of brokenenglish, but it was they.
They kept going for like about,I think, four years yeah, did it
work out or no, no um sheunfortunately ended it because

(14:22):
she just was not seeing and it'sgoing to sound bad, but it was
more or less from what Iremember hearing is that he was
not showing initiative to likewant to either move out or get a
different job kind of thing.
So it was more like you know,if gonna come move to america

(14:45):
and mean you are gonna getmarried and stuff like that.
Because she did, she wanted to,like you know, be with this guy
.
So he, just she it was, hedidn't get a better job.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
No, he, he worked with me at o'reilly's like back
when I was his manager and sothey broke up because, like he
didn't get a better job, like itwasn't expected, more from him.

Speaker 3 (15:04):
It kind of that's crazy.
Not like that, I don't Duh,she's French.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (15:11):
I want you making $100,000 at least.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
Well, french, people are very.

Speaker 3 (15:16):
You guys are well over-exaggerating that factor.
What it was is he just did notstrive for any kind of
initiative to like betterhimself, in a way, in regards to
like he was complaining abouthis job not making enough money.
I'm not doing this, yeah like soI should I probably should have
explained it a little bitbetter.
But yeah, so he just he wascomplaining about not having

(15:37):
enough money and all this otherstuff and she was like, well,
you need to try to find anotherjob.
And then he just, you know, washere and then he was saying he
was going to go to college andbut he didn't have anywhere to
stay, so in that was in indianaor something like that he was
going to college for orsomething.
And there was some other stuffthat happened that I won't get
into that, but that's.
And then it was kind of messedup too, because it was when he

(15:59):
was dropping her off at theairport.
Yeah, that, uh, he goes, allright, well, I'll text you when
you get home, or whatever, ortext me when you get home and
she goes no, you don't have todo that anymore because we're
we're done after this and thenit's nice and straightforward
yeah, it is nice andstraightforward, but it's also
still pretty slap in the face Idon't know which one's more
messed up the fact that she didit as like because his family

(16:22):
paid for the ticket home, like,so she did it after they paid
for the ticket for her to gohome.
After like, I think she staysthere for like a month or times
whenever she's an economist,like thanks for the ticket yeah.
And then just like yeah, by theway, we're done, I'm never gonna
see you again, kind of thing.
And then there was also thefact too that, like her, his

(16:42):
family was like paying for alltheir food and everything else,
and it's just like, wow, that'skind of a big slap.
Like to them too, at that point.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
Yeah, like so I've seen a lot of foreigners and
like on the on the trail and alot of them like, to be honest,
just sleep around like fromother countries a lot like I was
surprised when people said ohyeah, I got one from france and
well because some xyz likewherever it's like dude, wait,

(17:10):
you have like you have likemultiple girlfriends in other
countries what?

Speaker 3 (17:14):
what does that mess and like europe?

Speaker 2 (17:16):
is like really small, so it's like mormon or
something like that.

Speaker 3 (17:19):
They do that polygamy ?

Speaker 1 (17:20):
yeah, but they're not dating them, are they probably
not?
What do you mean?
Like I got, I think, maybe oneat a time, but they'll like.

Speaker 2 (17:27):
They'll like bag people from different countries.
That's like I don't thinkthey're dating I think they're
just like it's just more lax, iswhat I'm saying?

Speaker 1 (17:34):
like they're casual, yeah, yeah it's super casual in
europe well, that's what girlsdo whenever they're like I want
to go backpacking in europe yeahyeah, yeah, yeah, there's a
reason.

Speaker 4 (17:45):
I mean guys, I'm not even saying girls.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
I'm saying guys and girls do that.

Speaker 4 (17:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
Like across the board .
Well right, I'm just sayingfrom my perspective, because
usually it's like, yeah, there'sbeen girlfriends of mine, not
girlfriends, but you know, galpals.

Speaker 3 (18:05):
I guess you can say they have said like, yeah, I'm
going to go backpacking infrance.
And it's like, yeah, we allknow what you got, I don't know
what.
Are you 50?
Yeah, actually I am.
I'm 32, just 18 more years away.
That's pretty crazy.
Yeah, it's bad, but yeah, no,like there's.
There's, you know, foreigners,like women and whatnot, and men
that what I've seen, at leastright now, is like in japan, for
example.
There's the women there arereally modest and they're very

(18:27):
loyal to their husbands and Ithink that's more of an eastern
thing it is, but at the sametime it's like which is fine and
with the modern dating today.
Unfortunately, I hate to say it,but these american women are
just awful like not all of them,obviously because there's
there's some good eggs out there.
Can't put everybody in thatbasket but the bad ones, they're

(18:50):
just like.
They're out there cheating,they're out there sleeping,
they're out there just eitherjust staying single because they
just don't want to be in arelationship.
And then, anytime some guytries to like flirt with them
and be like, hey, how's it going, or like, hey, you dropped your
pencil something stupid,innocent and then they all get
all like mad and just like getaway from.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
That's because you're on tiktok, do you think that's
a?

Speaker 3 (19:11):
society problem, that's, that's well, I don't
know, I'm not just taking stufffrom tiktok that I've seen, but
like right but from experiencesthat I've heard from friends and
that I've witnessed like inreal life, about things like at
certain events like metro cruiseand like even out in dmc

(19:31):
midwest not the place in general, but out in chicago where the
delorean dealership's at there'speople that like we've stopped
at mcdonald's before and stufflike that happens and it's just
like why like.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
See, I personally have never had a bad encounter
with a woman because I grew upto them at the gym.
I don't like ask them out, butI'll go to the squat bar that
they're using to ask them if Ican use weights, just to you
know it helps you just aconversation?

Speaker 2 (19:56):
yes, yeah, hit them up at the gym.

Speaker 1 (19:57):
That's what caleb's saying yeah, I would if I was
more comfortable that's usuallynot where you I think the gym is
probably the worst place thatyou.
I think it's the best, becauseyou know she's hot.
That's true, you know she'staking care of herself.
That too, and if you're notcreepy about it, right, you can
go up to her yeah it's when you,it's when it's the guys that go

(20:18):
up to him and be like hey, Ilike it when you do squats and
they're like every girl thinksI'm creepy and it's like well,
yeah, because you say stuff likethat.

Speaker 3 (20:26):
Right, it's just because you are creepy and then
you're gawking at them too whilethey're doing it.

Speaker 1 (20:33):
That just makes you look like a yeah, like they're
doing squats and you're justlike.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
Because girls at the gym, like, barely wear anything.
Let's just be honest, that istrue.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
Yeah Well, I like that's why that's guys need to
train themselves not to look.
But girls also need to knowlike what if you're?
If you're dressing that way,the creeps are gonna look yeah
and then the guys who don't careare gonna be staring at you,
right?

Speaker 3 (20:54):
it's just how it goes and you're you at that point.
If you're dressing skimpy, likeyou, you can't be mad.
You can't.
If you're getting gawked at,you cannot get mad and you have
no reason to get mad.
But if you're dressing properly,you're wearing the like right
gym clothes and stuff like thatI want to know what properly is
like I would say, like I'm fine,like I don't get like weirded
out if, like, they're wearinglike a sports bra kind of thing,

(21:16):
like the tank top, whatever itis that they wear and they're on
the treadmill and then they'rewearing like leggings and stuff,
I'm cool with that, or evenshorts, I'm fine with that.
Like they'll usually wearshorts like up to their kneecap
pretty much.
That's still kind of hoey I meanlike half a little bit, but
it's like there's like halfwaythere, there's like half houses
and there's like half, but thatbut that I can like not gawk at

(21:38):
is a thing to me that's justnormal gym clothes, versus like,
if they're wearing very skin,tight like shorts that like go
up to their groin or whatever,and then they're like yeah, I'm
gonna do squats real quick.
And then it's like okay, howare you not gonna look at that
point?
You know what I mean?
You just have to train youreyes.

Speaker 1 (21:58):
Yeah, and I start looking at the lights.
Yeah, like this, like walkingaround, and that's how I do look
into the light yeah, look intothe light it's.

Speaker 3 (22:05):
It's really not that hard though to have a little
self-control, though.
I'm just like because when Iwent to the gym with with john,
like yeah, there are a lot ofgood looking women there, you
know and I had a couple womenyeah and I had a couple women on
when I was on the treadmill.
like did they just come up rightnext to me?
I'm just listening to my musicworking out and I just give a
quick glance and say, hey, how'sit going?

(22:26):
Just stuff like that.
You know, it's not that bad andyeah, they may be dressed up in
a different way, but I'm likeI'm just here to work out.
At that point, if she wants tomake more of a conversation,
I'll at least open it up towhere I'm friendly and I'll want
to talk to you by saying, hey,how's it going, kind of thing.
But if she just doesn't want totalk afterward, then I'm just

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going to keep working out.
I'm not going to sit there andjust stare at them.

Speaker 1 (22:53):
You should just run and then turn your head and just
look at them for a while Onthat day, for no particular
reason.

Speaker 3 (23:00):
I started running.
Forrest Gump Run, forrest run.
I'm going to move on.

Speaker 1 (23:09):
No, you should do that oh yeah, Go with the
Forrest Gump joke and I'm sureshe'll be.
Just call her Jenny next to you.

Speaker 3 (23:18):
Life is like a box of chocolates you never know what
you're going to get.
We're going to move on.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
Yes, on, yes.
Please get us out of here.
What about you, caleb?

Speaker 2 (23:30):
what?
Yeah, caleb, how's your datinglife going?

Speaker 1 (23:33):
uh, I would say it's obviously hasn't led to marriage
yet, but it's been kind of funyeah I've been going on dates
with girls, which I don't thinkis wrong no, that's surprising
with the looks like yours.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
I mean, you're not ugly like me and Ethan.

Speaker 4 (23:48):
Well, that's what he just said.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
Oh wait, what were you saying?
Were you saying I'm ugly?

Speaker 4 (23:54):
No.

Speaker 1 (23:55):
Oh, I thought you were saying it's surprising
because I've been going on dates.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
No surprising you're not married.
Oh, with the looks like yours,oh.

Speaker 3 (24:03):
Yeah, we got a Chad over here yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
Yeah, Chad.
So they've been going good orbad Well obviously they haven't
worked out because they haven'tbeen married.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:14):
But I think like sometimes you just have to keep
going on dates.
I know like in church cultureit's like you find somebody that
you like and you just have tofocus on them and then if it
doesn't work out, but that'skind of proving to be a waste of
time, so I think it's better tojust go on a bunch of dates,
obviously if you're like twomonths in with somebody you
should probably start focusingon just them.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
Right, yeah, but go on dates with many women, is
what you're saying.
Yeah, like, if you have likefive first dates this week.

Speaker 1 (24:43):
You've got one on Monday, you've got one on
Tuesday, one on Wednesday.

Speaker 2 (24:46):
I think that's fine, yeah, as long as you're not like
exclusive.

Speaker 1 (24:49):
Yeah, as long as you're not exclusive, you're not
like sleeping with them.
Yeah, obviously.

Speaker 3 (24:54):
I find it weird in that perspective of like the
multiple people dating like that, even if it is a first date,
because there was a girl that Iwas trying to go out with on I
think it was highly was thedating app and she that's your
first problem, but continue wait, this was like that's no, the
dating app is highly.

(25:14):
Oh, I don't know, it's like noworse than tender yeah, there
was.
It was two years.
It was, uh, yeah, two years agoin 2022, when I moved into my
newer apartment and there's thisgirl named megan and she seemed
really cool.
You know, we were hitting offpretty good and we had been
talking for like a few days andI was like, hey, you know, do
you want to go out for a date?
And she's like, oh yeah, sure,but I'm gonna let you know

(25:37):
something real quick.
And I'm like, what's up?
And she said that she wasseeing five other guys and then
she was gonna plan a date tohave like a whole day thing,
like one at breakfast, one likemidday, one at lunch, one
mid-afternoon to just have themall together.
And then she, at the end of theday, she would probably, she
would think about it.

(25:57):
And then she told me that thenext day, which I think was like
probably saturday or sunday orsomething- dude, she ain't
paying for anything.

Speaker 2 (26:04):
That's all I'm saying .

Speaker 1 (26:05):
Yeah, and, but the thing is is like that's fine if
she oh no, was that the drink?
No, it was.

Speaker 3 (26:11):
Oh, it's an empty mug , but she was basically going to
decide, then, who she was goingto stick with exclusively.
I'm like, well, how long haveyou been dating for she goes?
Oh, just this week.
I'm like what?

Speaker 1 (26:24):
yeah, okay the thing is that's fine if she wants to
go on yeah, that's five days,but why would?
You tell somebody that, yeah,like you don't tell other girls
that you go on dates with, likeyeah, I just went on a date with
another girl right, becausethen you come off as a dog, like
you're just thirsty all thetime dog and you come off as
actually insecure because you'relike.
You have to let her know thatyou're that you're seeing, like

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you're seeing other people.
She should just like let thatyou got to, let that like go
into her mind on her own yeah,because at that point though,
then that gets her as bad as itsounds that I mean, you're not
wrong you should date less, butit also gets in her mind.

Speaker 3 (26:58):
Then at that point if you tell her that you have
other options, then she's justanother option, so then she's
just gonna dip.
My motto is if I'm an option,don't pick me at that point, if
I'm your choice, yeah, butthat's not gonna happen on a
first date.
Well, no, I'm not saying that,but like if you're saying like
when, how she told me that she'sseeing five other guys.
But I'm just an option, forgetit, I'm out yeah, I think it's

(27:20):
weird that she told you no.

Speaker 1 (27:21):
Nah, dude, you got to compete, dude.

Speaker 2 (27:23):
You got to be number one, you got to be like hey look
, I can play pickleball.

Speaker 3 (27:26):
I can play pickleball .

Speaker 1 (27:28):
Yeah, Pickleball yeah pickleball so great.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
I have show shorts for pickleball.
Yeah, dude.

Speaker 4 (27:34):
Yeah you have hoochie daddies, is that?
What you have.
No, I don't care.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
Oh man, lol, lol, yeah I agreed I don't know
that's, that's just too much.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
It is too much yeah, it's just weird that she brought
it up yeah, and that's when Iwas just like I'm done with that
, that's that's weird.
For sure, for sure yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
So next topic awkward silence awkward silence no,
it's okay, this is like the.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
This is the chill moment when you don't have
anything to talk about.
You're just like hanging out.
Yeah yeah, I like it, yeah metoo, let's just not say anything
and just a solid five minutesof silence of just nothing
happening, just the occasional Iguess I wow, I guess we could

(28:30):
talk about, like why do you guysthink that this dating crisis
has happened?
No, that's a good one.
We can get into society yeah,go from there.

Speaker 3 (28:39):
That's a nice road.
Yeah, it is going out societyand how the world is made out to
be right now at this pointsociety yeah, probably social
media, I think yeah, socialmedia would definitely be.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
Yeah, I talked with alec on the latest one about
social media oh, we can't retashthat, then well, we can, it's
just like get your guys'sperspective on it, because we
didn't.
It wasn't like the main themeof that episode.
We just kind of like touched onit a little bit, like the
paradox of choice, because womenand I guess I have to say, and
men which is annoying becauseI'm not thinking- of men, I'm

(29:12):
thinking about women, because Idate women right they think that
they have all these choicesbecause of social media, when in
reality it's it's like, yeah,they do, but they really don't
at the same time, because theykeep, there's always going to be
a better option I think that'sthe problem with dating at least
one of the problems is there'salways a better option out there
and the thing is is technically, that statement is true when

(29:36):
you think about it like there isalways somebody better out
there?

Speaker 3 (29:39):
yeah, and they're just a click away yeah, that's
true versus how it used to bewhere before, like Facebook,
myspace and all that other crap,like we had to go, like at
lunchtime, and go up to thetable that she was sitting at
with all of her friends and belike, hey, do you want to go out
to prom?

Speaker 1 (29:55):
You know the old-fashioned way, but that
seemed to always usually workmore.

Speaker 3 (29:58):
Yeah, because you actually built that rapport and
chemistry, because you're inperson built that rapport and
chemistry, because you're inperson, right, and yeah, you'd
have probably more in your favorlike, yeah, you'd still get
rejected, but at least at thatpoint it's like all right, move
on to the next one yeah, and atthe same time.

Speaker 1 (30:11):
At the same time it's like there was a lack of choice
, so some people did actuallyhave to settle.
So it's like where's thatbalance at?
Because if you're like livingin a small town with only 50
people and you're a woman andyour choices are like Bill, dad
and Bobo, it's like what are yougoing to do?

Speaker 4 (30:31):
Bobo.

Speaker 3 (30:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:34):
What are you going to do?
Right, and you don't haveanybody else to marry.
It's like you got to marry oneof them if you want to have kids
or have a family or whatever.
So it's like there's reallylike this it sucks because it's
like on the one end, we have waytoo many choices and then on
the other end, there's notenough and then there's not
enough because it seems liketoday.

Speaker 3 (30:55):
It's like people don't know how to appreciate
what they have now yeah and sothey just like keep moving from
option to option to option, andthen and sometimes those people
like they could have been reallygood for you, like you know you
could meet somebody, you breakup, but then, like years down
the road, you find out likethey're with somebody but it's
like clearly toxic and they'rehaving issues financially or

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something, or they're just notgetting cared for.
The guy's a tool, somethinglike that, or the girl's just
she doesn't care enough aboutthe relationship, so like she's
having the guy pay foreverything kind of thing.
But yeah, then at some pointsomebody retaliates, they break
up and then they're like, dang,I really wish, like I had what I
had with this person back atthat point.
They, they immediately getfilled with regret at that point

(31:40):
.
After that, yeah that doeshappen.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
That's why you make yourself more valuable right,
it's what I do.

Speaker 3 (31:46):
I try to like us individually.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
I don't know, or as a man, as a man as a man yeah, I
have something that every otherguy doesn't have you know

Speaker 3 (31:56):
yeah like he's got.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
You know he's a chad and I'm ugly well, it's not just
that he's a chad, but you alsohave to have social skills yeah
like for me.
I don't even watch tv, right,and I just I just read I work
out and study.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
Do the podcast music, all that stuff and I'm the
total opposite, playing gamesnot working out, like, like an
ugly like an ugly guy like anugly basement dweller like an
ugly guy has to work on thatmore than like somebody that
just hasn't made like with lookswhen you look like the guy from

(32:35):
the goonies and he's like, hey,you guys, he's got like that
weird.

Speaker 3 (32:38):
I'm saying you have to bring something more to that
you have to bring something moreto the table.
Yeah, like Coke.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
Yeah, yes, like a book, I don't know.
Or even just better at socialinteraction.

Speaker 3 (32:51):
Social interactions.
Or maybe there's a hidden skillyou can write poetry or you can
really romance it, you can playbasketball really well, or
pickleball.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
Well, yeah or pickleball.
The thing is, women do like aman who has ambition.
They don't necessarily wantmillions of millions of dollars
some of them do but those arejust the ones we see on tiktok
that are just like, yeah, he'sgot to make six figures, but a
lot of times it's just like theywant somebody who's ambitious I

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disagree.

Speaker 2 (33:23):
I think that's what they say they want, but I think
what they actually want is justa good-looking guy, and they
don't care about anything else.
Really, yeah, I don't know,that's my opinion, or the one
with a lot of money and a goodlook You're telling me if
there's a guy who's verygood-looking like a solid 10.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
If you put, somebody that has a Fabio comes walking
in.
He's like hey, let me show youto my house and it's a cardboard
box.
You're going to be like yes,she's going for him because he
looks good.

Speaker 3 (33:50):
You never know You're stone-faced.

Speaker 1 (33:51):
There's some girls that can be, that desperate man.

Speaker 3 (33:55):
I got a good-looking guy.
Oh, where's this?

Speaker 2 (34:10):
I think yeah, if you don't show two people in the
room, one that's really goodlooking and one that has, like,
a huge character, I think she'sgonna choose the one that's good
looking.
Yeah, I can see that.
Even if, even if the character,even if they like are really
good with conversation with thatguy that has character, it
doesn't matter, they're gonnastill choose the other guy what
if the guy with good characters,like a seven?

Speaker 1 (34:19):
they're really good looking guys.
Ten I was thinking like a fiveand a ten, but okay, so five and
a ten, if okay, if he's uglyenough, they're obviously gonna
choose the guy who's betterlooking, but if he's like a
seven or eight and the other guyis a ten, but the seven right
is really good at conversationand he's funny, I think he's
gonna win her over in a, maybein a way, but he starts pulling

(34:42):
out those hundreds or something.

Speaker 3 (34:43):
Right, that's that, that is one thing is a lot of
and again, you know some men arelike this too, where you know
they'll look on, looks like thisgirl could be like faithful,
she could dispel, like oh yeah,I was cheated on blah blah, but
I'm really faithful to my guysthat I'm with and whatnot, and
you know I'll be there, you knowI'll give you a back massage,

(35:03):
whatever, just to woo the guyover and she's like she could be
really honest and loyal.
But then you get like a kimkardashian kind of looking girl
and the guy's gonna go for herbecause she looks, she's got an
hourglass figure and all thisother crap and I'm not saying
that girls just do those guysprobably do it too.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
Oh yeah, they're just like oh, who's the hottest girl
in the room?
Yeah, guy Like I said before, Idon't care, you know.

Speaker 1 (35:26):
Yeah, most guys go for looks.

Speaker 3 (35:29):
It's just how they're built.
Yeah, that's how we're built.

Speaker 1 (35:32):
I mean, there's like how many?
I guess there's some videos, Idon't know if there's actually a
study, but it's like the womanasks the man like what do you
want me to do when you come home?
Do you want me to clean, cookor look good?
And they almost always chooselook good, like they don't care
if you cook, they don't care ifyou clean, they just want you to
look hot when they come homefrom work.

Speaker 3 (35:51):
Right, and I'm like sorry, I'd rather you be relaxed
and chill and doing whatever.

Speaker 1 (35:56):
I definitely want them looking hot.

Speaker 3 (35:58):
I don't want them to like, maybe on a date night.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
Sure, I will cook, and then we can clean together
on Saturday when I come homefrom work and you see a smoking
hot wife you are going to thank,do everything and anything.
Yeah, you would just yeah, itwould be nice.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
At the same time.
If you don't have time to cook,I would love somebody to cook.

Speaker 3 (36:20):
But then the other thing is too is that then you
get that or she'll get thatmentality, that your mentality
is as long as I look good andhot, then I don't have to do
anything.
And then she becomes lazy.
And then when you stop doing itbecause you're like man, I'm
tired and just whatever, thenshe'll just dump you for fabio I
thought you're lord farquad orwhoever she's going after or

(36:41):
shrek or shrek, I literallythought you're gonna say then
she gets ugly she's ugly andproud.

Speaker 1 (36:48):
100 honey you got real ugly.

Speaker 3 (36:51):
That's great yeah and I for me.
I think it's just it shouldn'tmatter at that point, like of
how you look, if you'representable and coming home,
like I would say, if I come hometo at least like if she's got a
part-time job or somethingstupid.
Let's just say in a perfectworld, hypothetically, like I
have a really good job, not sixfigures, but a good enough job

(37:14):
to where I can have a home.
You know she can stay there, Idon't have to really worry about
a perfect world you don't makesix figures in a perfect, I'm
just saying in a hypotheticalsituation you don't make six
figures.

Speaker 1 (37:26):
I'm just saying, in a hypothetical situation I still
don't make six figures.
I'm just saying, if you'regoing to go with the perfect
world scenario, I'd be like in aperfect world I'm making a
billion dollars.

Speaker 3 (37:33):
It's an average perfect world.
How about that?
So you get nothing?

Speaker 1 (37:39):
You're not making something?
Upper class, perfect world.
There we go.

Speaker 3 (37:42):
Yeah, so you're not making six figures but you're
almost there.
But you have enough for a home.
You got enough for a nice car.
Yeah, you got enough for like areally you know good looking
girl.
Let's say that falls for you orwhatnot, but she doesn't know
how much money you make and if Iam the main bread provider at
that point.
And let's say she works apart-time job or whatever, yeah,

(38:02):
like, if I'm like coming homefrom a long day at work, let's
just say my job is eight to five, I come home it's like 5, 30, 6
o'clock.
If the house is like, I wouldsay if.
If it's like clean or at leastsomewhat tidied up and it's not
like a giant mess, I'm like okay, cool, that's at least one
thing, because I don't want tocome home.
I'm neat freak, that's just me.

(38:23):
I would rather come home tolike a clean, like picked up
kind of like home than justsomething with like trash laying
around everywhere or just likethere's stains on the carpet
from the dog or something likethat or like in the aspect of
like I wouldn't, I don't reallyeven care about like a dinner
already being ready to be made.

(38:44):
I could just be that guy that'slike, hey, let's just order
little caesars or something likethat just for tonight.
Or you know, hey, I'm justgonna whip something in the
microwave, or hey, I'm gonnamake dinner real quick, or do
something like that.
Yeah, I would just say, as longas they like, if they were in
that scenario, just, you know,tighten up the house just a
little bit.
They don't have to go overboardand like grab the feather
duster like they do in the 80smovies, like one tippy toe on

(39:06):
the ladder, and just be likegetting up on the bookshelf okay
, so you said she has apart-time job, right?
yeah, and in a hypothetical uh,above average world.

Speaker 1 (39:15):
Yes, I'm just saying because obviously if she has a
part-time job, she's probablywhat's part-time like below 30
it's like 20 hours or so, 25, sothere's gonna be days where
she's not working.
So if she's spending all of herday trying to look good,
obviously there's gonna be anissue it's like girl clean or

(39:37):
cook or something.

Speaker 3 (39:39):
The same rule, I think, applies to where, like,
even if I work full-time andlet's just say she's working and
I have the day off or somethinglike that, I'm sure she would
even appreciate the house beingpicked up a little bit, because
just because I'm workingfull-time, making most of the
bread doesn't mean like I justdon't have to do crap around the
house.
You know what I mean like, soit's my part of my duty too so

(39:59):
it works out in both partieswhere you know, hey, if I want
the house clean, then theexpectation is is when you're
gone that I'm going to clean thehouse no, that's all her job.

Speaker 2 (40:10):
Wow, that'd be totally clean when I get home.

Speaker 3 (40:19):
It should be open for both parties.
At that point I feel like.

Speaker 2 (40:23):
No, you're right.
You're right, it's more 50-50.
It's not?

Speaker 1 (40:29):
No women have to stay in the kitchen.

Speaker 2 (40:32):
Oh, I thought it was a bedroom oh.

Speaker 1 (40:33):
Wow, Ethan Gosh.
You know, if a woman and a manare driving and they get in an
accident, whose fault is it?

Speaker 2 (40:46):
Was it head on it in an accident?
Whose?

Speaker 1 (40:47):
fault is it?
Was it head on?
It doesn't matter.
Whose fault is it?

Speaker 3 (40:50):
I know where this is going.
The guy's fault, of course.
Yeah, it is the guy's fault, itdoesn't matter why is he
driving in the kitchen.

Speaker 2 (40:58):
Y'all are horrible, it's aggressive, it's a joke,
it's not aggressive, it'saggressive, it's a joke.
So when, when you said thatquestion about social media, I
totally thought you were talkingabout like way back when, when
like, likes and stuff likestarted going on on facebook
where I was like that kind ofchanges everything, at least for

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the first time a girl poked meon facebook.

Speaker 1 (41:23):
I thought she was in love with me.
Oh, dude same.

Speaker 3 (41:28):
Yeah, because when were pokes, that was like what
beginning of Facebook?
Yeah, that was the beginning ofFacebook.
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 (41:34):
But people just getting likes In general changed
how they got gratification fromit.

Speaker 1 (41:42):
Yeah, in general I'm not even saying that, saying now
it's so expendable and so, just, it does it's meaningless, but
it's still like well, no, do youthink it's meaningless?
Yeah, not completelymeaningless, but okay.
I used to think that if a girllike this liked my post on
facebook, that she liked me.
Yeah, I don't care what it was,it could be a picture of me

(42:02):
smiling.
She liked it.
I was like, oh my gosh, we'regonna go out together.
She's gonna be mine.
This is happening.
I can't believe she did it.
I would think all night whatI'm gonna message her.
I'm not even kidding.
I used to do that.

Speaker 3 (42:14):
Now girl likes, I'm like, okay, whatever yeah yeah,
it doesn't matter, they reallyhave to show like initiative at
that point if they really likeyou, I think.

Speaker 2 (42:22):
Think it doesn't matter on that aspect, but it
matters on business aspect nowinstead, because if people have
enough followers, they can makemoney off of it.
Yeah, it's still good to change.

Speaker 1 (42:34):
It is good to get likes.
If you're YouTube or Facebook.
It boosts your algorithm.
The more people that like yourstuff, the more it's going to
push it out there.

Speaker 4 (42:42):
Right, you're right on that.

Speaker 1 (42:43):
So, on a business aspect, of course, yeah, it's
helpful, but it what I what Imean by it doesn't mean anything
, is like, it's just so easy todo like you just like anything,
it doesn't really matter and youkind of forget about it, but
back then that, when I wouldyeah, when I would like, I would
like freak out if I was goingto like some girl's picture.

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I'm like, oh my gosh, do I doit?

Speaker 2 (43:05):
yeah, and then you do it and you're like, and I start
sweating I think other peoplenot you, but like other people
are like oh, I only got 100likes on this and they feel bad
because they only got 100 likeson something there's some people
that.
Yeah, some people are like thatbecause they need that.

Speaker 1 (43:22):
That's where they need that yeah, they find their
worth from how many likes theyget I mean, yeah, don't get me
wrong if I found my worth fromhow many likes I get.
I would be dead because, yeah,nobody likes me.

Speaker 3 (43:34):
I have like none I mean this is one thing for me
like.
So, if there's somebody on thisis me with social media in
regards to the likes, but so ifI have a drawing that I did, if
it only gets like one like, atthat point I'm kind of like,
okay, come on now.
Like the titanic drawing I did,you know like that.

(43:57):
I spent like a week.
Was it sinking?

Speaker 2 (43:59):
yeah, it was.
Oh okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, Idon't know maybe it was floating
, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (44:05):
I mean, it was at one point over 100 years ago but
yeah and so if I get like, if Ispend some time on a drawing and
granted, I know I'm not gonnaget blown up with like a million
likes or whatever but if I onlyget like one like on a drawing,
that's when I'm kind of likeokay, really like, come on now I
spent like hours on this andyou can't tell me that it's

(44:26):
scrolled through your news feedand you're just like you can't
just quick like that orsomething like that, like I'm
not again expecting like 500,000.

Speaker 1 (44:34):
Yeah, but it's because you're not quote,
unquote cool, right.
And so it's like the more likesyou start getting, the more
likes you start getting, right.
And what I mean by that is likethe human brain is weird and
humans are weird.
Where it's like, say, somebodysees your photo and has zero
likes, they're like yeah, Idon't like because nobody likes
it.
But if they see that it haslike 30 likes, it's weird

(44:56):
because that same person wouldbe more likely to like that
photo because they already seethat it has likes, right.

Speaker 3 (45:02):
Why is that that?
I don't know.
I they already see that it haslikes right.

Speaker 2 (45:06):
Why is that that?
I don't know.
I think it's just commonality.
They want to be on that team,so they want right.

Speaker 1 (45:10):
Yeah, they want to be on the team, because that's how
it is with youtube it's like Idon't have, I only have.
I think, like right now, at thetime I was recording 68
subscribers.
Dude, that's huge right yeah,and it's like it's more than me
yeah, and you don't get anyviews on youtube.
But once people start watching,it's like oh, this video has

(45:32):
500 views, I'm gonna check itout, but if it has zero, it's
like I don't want to watch thisright, unless you're jack septic
high or somebody else I don'tknow who jack septic is.

Speaker 3 (45:43):
No, he's like early youtube, like pewdiepie
markiplier, like that earlyyoutube oh yeah, I don't know
who any of those guys are.

Speaker 2 (45:50):
I hate, don't wide mouth I hate views without any
likes, though, like you, you'llbe like 200 views and then zero,
yeah, but really it's.

Speaker 1 (46:04):
I think it's the duration that they watch that
really boosts the algorithmthat's true, because on tiktok.
I've had videos that get abunch of likes but barely any
views.
But then I've had shorter oneswhere they're more likely to
watch the whole thing get a lotmore views.
Because once tiktok doesn'tcare about likes or dislikes as
much, I don't think youtube doeseither.

Speaker 3 (46:24):
They care about how long they can keep you on their
platform they have like ananalytics thing, that shows up
because, like, if you're justrambling on about something
stupid, like you're just talkingabout dinosaurs or something
like that, and it's just likethe same dinosaur for like 30
minutes most people it'll showyou like where they stop at or
where they skip to like see ifanother topic is being talked
about and it's like you know atthat point, then that's where

(46:48):
they drop.
And then youtube's like okay,we, you got to change it up here
, bud, because your videos arelike tanking bad.

Speaker 2 (46:54):
You're not making us money at that point I think long
videos are like, not the thingeither like all depends on the
life, everybody seems seems togo in short.
Yeah, that's true, compared towhat it used to be.

Speaker 1 (47:05):
Yeah, it's a lot harder, especially for me,
because the episodes are what.
Yours is like two hours almostevery time.

Speaker 3 (47:11):
Good job, dude.
Yeah, no right.

Speaker 1 (47:13):
And it's like people don't want to watch that whole
thing, but also, you have toremember, they don't know who we
are.
So it's like why would we watchtwo hours of two people that we
don't even know?

Speaker 2 (47:22):
That are ugly.
I mean what?
Yeah, exactly.
Well, if you were there, it'dbe three ugly people I know.

Speaker 1 (47:27):
Yeah, not red flannel , yeah.

Speaker 3 (47:30):
Hey, can I take it out, because I was hot yeah.

Speaker 4 (47:33):
It's a heavy jacket.
Okay, it's a heavy jacket.

Speaker 2 (47:35):
It's heavy.

Speaker 4 (47:40):
Oh man, you guys are killing me.

Speaker 3 (47:50):
Well, you're making me alive.
Yeah, blue flannel, all right.
You know that sound on Arthur.
When they drank a milkshakeLike that straw, that was like
the shake was empty all the timeand they're just sucking air.

Speaker 1 (47:58):
I have always wanted a sugar bowl.

Speaker 3 (48:00):
A sugar bowl.
That's the drink in Arthur.

Speaker 1 (48:04):
No, it's the place that they go.
It's like a bar for highschoolers, but it's soda and ice
cream.
That would be so cool.

Speaker 2 (48:11):
I know you could just go there and hand from Avengers
and Odyssey.
You know what I want youremember.

Speaker 1 (48:16):
Yeah, it'd be the same idea.

Speaker 3 (48:17):
You remember the Goofy movie, the pizza and the
cheese?

Speaker 1 (48:25):
Just like when, when they picked it up, the cheese
just drooled.
Yeah, but I always hated thatscene because the guy with the
earrings was just like sittingin his shirt and his underwear
and I was like the leaning towerof cheese.

Speaker 3 (48:33):
That guy, yes, he was just nasty, he was a little
smoky.
That was him, and like the, Ithink it was likeline.

Speaker 1 (48:43):
But I do want to go to one of those poetry clubs
where they're like, notnecessarily snapping your
fingers but just like that typeof atmosphere where it's like
you're just hanging out andsomebody's doing poetry.
I think that'd be kind of fun.

Speaker 3 (48:55):
I've been there a few times.
It's very chill, like a coffeeshop.
Kind of it's.
They have like different areas.
Okay, for example, for me likethere's a place downtown I won't
name the place, but they'll dopoetry night every like
Wednesday or Thursday.

Speaker 4 (49:09):
Tell us after.

Speaker 3 (49:10):
Yeah, I'll tell you after.
Yeah, they'll do poetry.
I think it's Wednesdays andThursdays and you get people
there.
They'll do the snapping of thefingers like as the applause and
whatnot, and I'm like, dang,that's pretty good, like it.
I'm like, dang, that's prettygood, like it really speaks to
you at that point.
And plus, then again everybodyin the room is just chill with
you, like I could sit across thetable from another person and

(49:30):
we'll just make conversationjust because, wow, that poem was
like really good, you know, orlike it really spoke to me at
that point.
Like about my life, like I'mgoing through some trauma or
something stupid like that.
Yeah, because trauma's stupid.

Speaker 2 (49:46):
Tell that to the camera Trauma's stupid Did
anybody was like yeah, that wasterrible, that was a terrible
poem.

Speaker 1 (49:53):
Didn't like it I don't think anybody would ever
do that, because it takes a lotof guts to go up there.

Speaker 4 (49:58):
Anybody who's?

Speaker 3 (50:00):
You suck, oh brother, this guy stinks.

Speaker 1 (50:08):
I totally butchered the quote you got it right.

Speaker 2 (50:11):
You can't do that in real life?
Oh, that's another thing withsocial media.
Everybody's slamming peopleonline, can't do it in person.

Speaker 1 (50:18):
And that's the thing too is we see this huge
political divide?
First of all, the politicaldivide has always been here
there was a literal civil war inthe 1850s.
Yeah, so it's always been here,but it's just blown out of
proportion because on tiktokyoutube shorts, whatever it is
you see two people just going atit, but that is not the case

(50:39):
going at it no, I mean I'm justkidding, like as in fighting.

Speaker 2 (50:45):
Oh, okay, yeah yes yeah that's, that's what I
thought too.

Speaker 1 (50:48):
Yeah, yeah, we can tell uh, they're arguing back
and forth and they're extremelyangry at each other and that we
see that and we think that's thenorm, and so it puts it in our
mind as if that's the norm, butit really isn't.
When you have a discussion Ihave liberal friends, okay, and
when I tell them my politicalviews, it's like we can be we

(51:13):
can be friends, civil andfriends and they can.
They actually see my point and Isee their point and you
actually find out that you kindof agree on a lot of things and
things aren't really as bad.
But the reason why we get somad is because we see two people
on YouTube shorts screaming ateach other and that's just not

(51:33):
the real world.

Speaker 3 (51:35):
Because the world's out to divide us at that point,
because that's exactly how it isand that's what sells on media
Like two people agreeing isn'tgoing to sell on.

Speaker 2 (51:44):
No, you got to butt heads you know, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (51:51):
I thought you were going to say more.

Speaker 3 (51:53):
No, that's the silence, right there is great.

Speaker 1 (51:57):
So, ethan, do you think?
What do you think of Bigfoot,bigfoot?

Speaker 3 (52:01):
He's the scariest known.

Speaker 1 (52:02):
It's scary.
I do not believe in Bigfoot ohwe got, I thought we're going to
go a totally different way withthat Now really, but what?
With Bigfoot or social media.

Speaker 2 (52:12):
No about going into politics.

Speaker 1 (52:14):
We can go into politics.
I just wanted to say theBigfoot thing is kind of a joke.
Oh yeah, why?

Speaker 3 (52:20):
because, it's the scariest thing known to man,
next to Bigfoot.
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 4 (52:23):
We just have to bring him up.

Speaker 2 (52:24):
I'm confused.
Because Bigfoot's funny what doyou guys think about?

Speaker 1 (52:28):
Bigfoot.
I think it's a demon.

Speaker 4 (52:33):
Yeah, I think it doesn't exist.
It doesn't exist so much forpolitics, it just doesn't exist.
No, we can come back to that.

Speaker 1 (52:39):
Yeah we can come back to it, but Bigfoot is.
We already discussed it in oneof our episodes.
Which one Bigfoot?

Speaker 2 (52:46):
Or Bigfoot politics.
Bigfoot.

Speaker 1 (52:51):
Well, it's political season and this is probably
going to come out.
I think this will come out, Ithink a week after the election
day.

Speaker 2 (52:59):
You know what's crazy ?
It's election week.

Speaker 3 (53:02):
This week?
Yeah, it's this week.
It started on Monday, yep.

Speaker 2 (53:08):
And it goes until monday, is today, next tuesday.
Yeah, it is, today is mondayyeah, so it's election week
today, this week I thought itwas like, next, tuesday is when
we vote right tuesday's when wevote yeah, right, and I think
they're taking monday off, sothey're not doing it like next
monday, but monday to sunday andthen tuesday, because the only
days I have off are monday.

Speaker 3 (53:24):
Sunday I'm pretty sure they're not doing it like
next monday, but monday tosunday and then tuesday, because
the only days I have off aremonday sunday.

Speaker 2 (53:28):
I'm pretty sure they're doing it on sunday, but
well you can usually go prettylate on tuesday.

Speaker 1 (53:32):
Anyway, I'm pretty sure they have to let you leave
work to go vote like yeah, theydo during the day or like early
or whatever or let you come inlate yeah to like okay, I got
you now because, well, that wasthe thing is like, back before I
left o'reilly's, it came backis.

Speaker 3 (53:51):
I just went on like my lunch period because I lived
on that side of town where myold store was, and so it was
like it's just down the road,I'll be in and out, no problem,
which it was.
It was in and out, and then Ijust literally came back to work
and just did whatever.
But now that I'm on this sideof town it's like I'm not in the
same position that I was before.
It's a little bit morechallenging because, again, my

(54:13):
schedule usually have Sundaysand Mondays off and I work
Tuesday through Saturday.
So it's like how late do theystay open?
Is it like six Something?
Stupid?

Speaker 2 (54:21):
like that.
Yeah, it's like six or seven, Ithink it's eight, all right,
but again.

Speaker 3 (54:25):
Your job has to let you leave early, right which
would be nice, because I wouldrather just leave early, like
for the day, like, oh yeah,you're out at four, all right,
leave at three.
Then I'm like, cool, I'll dothat.

Speaker 1 (54:36):
Okay, harris is gonna win I don't what no you think?
I think so, but I think they'regonna do what russia does and
like kind of cheat.
Have you seen the signs aroundMichigan?

Speaker 4 (54:48):
I've seen a lot of Trump signs.
Dude, there's no way you.

Speaker 1 (54:51):
No, I'm talking about like billboards.

Speaker 4 (54:53):
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (54:55):
You haven't seen any of the Kamala billboards.
They're everywhere.

Speaker 3 (54:59):
Kamala's everywhere.
Don't pay attention the thingis is up north.
There's a lot more Trump Vancethan there is Harris Billboards.
I saw a Trump thing downtownBillboards and even just little
picket things in people's yards.
Like there's a lot more.
Like back where my parents likein Hershey.
Like there's a lot of Trumpbillboards.

Speaker 1 (55:18):
But that's a small town.
You're waiting in Grand Rapids,no right?

Speaker 3 (55:26):
And Grand Rapids, though rapids no right, and
they're not gonna get a placewhere, unfortunately, a lot of
stuff happens.
We had the riots with georgefloyd and all that other crap
too people from other towns.
Those are liberal.
That's the liberal side rightthere at that point, and so it
makes sense yeah, but there'sblack lives matter.

Speaker 1 (55:37):
Crap up there and freaking downtown there's those
signs that say, like I'm, it'slike his name is dwight and it's
like I'm a former Dwight andit's like I'm a former Trump
supporter.
I am a gun owner.
I'm voting for Kamala this time.
There's this big billboard andthere's tons of those and I
don't think they're convincing.
I don't think they're meant toconvince people.

Speaker 2 (55:56):
They're just meant to drag the other person down.
They're really bad atconvincing if it is.

Speaker 1 (56:06):
Yeah, well, to instruct us.

Speaker 2 (56:07):
I think it's meant for like the idiot people to be
like see, that's why she won,because all these people are
changing their minds.
See that?
Yeah, that's what I'm saying,like if they tend to cheat.

Speaker 1 (56:13):
But you know, I don't really know if they cheat in
elections I wouldn't put it pastthem.

Speaker 2 (56:17):
Watergate fine example they're saying she's
losing in, like every stateright now.
That's what.
That's what I've heard.

Speaker 1 (56:23):
Yeah, that's what I've heard too, but it's like,
which means you need to go andvote because a lot of people are
gonna be like well, I guessthey don't have to vote but then
here's the thing, though, isthat it, if it does come down to
her winning, I already knowit's going to be a landslide of
her cheating, because how it?

Speaker 3 (56:36):
how it worked even before, with biden and trump
running again against each otherback in 2020 it was.
There was a few ballots thatwere were missing, that
mysteriously just got lost inthe mail, and then they found
them, and they were all bidenmagically.
So it's like that's how, ifmost of the us is voting trump

(56:56):
right now, and then, all of asudden, harris wins magically,
they're cheating 100 well, myprediction is they're going to
focus the cheating on, like Ohioand Michigan and Pennsylvania,
yeah, yeah, the ones that youhave to swing.

Speaker 1 (57:11):
Yeah, but then California, out of nowhere, is
switching Trump.
That's my prediction, if itactually happens, I'm going to
be so happy.

Speaker 3 (57:21):
Because that would be crazy if California switched.

Speaker 2 (57:23):
It would be Exactly.
Yeah, it'd be like New Yorkswitched.
It would be Exactly.

Speaker 1 (57:27):
Yeah, it'd be like New York switching, yeah, or
that you could flip-flopCalifornia and New York for me.

Speaker 2 (57:32):
Which is like if one of those flips out of nowhere
and then all of a sudden orNorth Dakota goes the other way.
I know mostly.

Speaker 3 (57:40):
South.
Wow, I think mostly South is,from what I've heard from people
that live down south, liketexas and whatnot, is they're
all trump well, south and theheartland is usually trump.
It's just hard because ofcities you notice how it's like
cities are opposite of like thecivil war and stuff like that,
where you have like what was it?
it was the north versus thesouth, where it's like the north

(58:02):
had like the freedom of like wejust have to stop for that
there was, like you know, likehow, when slavery was an act and
whatnot, like, the south is theone that owned the slaves for
like, felt like slaves shouldn'tbe free.
And then you have the north.
That's like nope, you havefreedom.
Now it's reverse, I think, atthis point, where the north is
more like, not like with slavery, but you know, just as an

(58:24):
example, like now, they'reswitching sides and now
technically it's like thedemocratic party.

Speaker 1 (58:30):
People think that like we flipped and like now all
of a sudden the republicansdon't like black people and
democrats all for black people,but really democrats keep them
enslaved.
It just looks different.
Yeah well by saying like hey,we'll help you with these
government handouts.
Yeah, you need our help.
You can't do this on your own.
And they keep them stuck inthese areas, in these places,

(58:52):
for decades.
It seems like it's like.

Speaker 3 (58:53):
Burton street has not changed, it's still all here as
walls well, and then too,here's the other thing is even
on spotify too.
This is the dumper I hate themost because I'm up.
I'm a huge military supporter.
I support the vets, active duty, fallen soldiers, whatnot.

Speaker 1 (59:09):
My family's been in war.
Yeah, I don't support any ofthat.
Neither do I.
Oh my God.

Speaker 3 (59:13):
You were in the Navy for a little while, weren't you
For?

Speaker 1 (59:16):
literally three weeks when I got sent home from boot
camp, so I don't count it.
Still in the Navy, I stillsigned my name, sure, but I
wasn't actually like I've beenthinking about going to sign
your name, yeah.
Yeah, because you can join theNavy up until 37.
Really, oh dang, yeah Well it'sbecause it's not as straining
as Marines.

(59:37):
What?

Speaker 2 (59:38):
is the army age cut off 28 or something like that.

Speaker 1 (59:46):
I think it's probably somewhere around there.
I know I think marines is 27,but I've been thinking about
rejoining the navy just becauseit's like not necessarily I
don't really want to weldforever and it'd be kind of cool
to be on a ship that's true,but then you also have to think
of, like, what happens if youget struck by a torpedo or
something like that?
What happens if I'm in a warzone.
And yeah, yeah what I?

Speaker 3 (01:00:03):
well, I'm just.
What happens if I'm in a warzone and I get sniped?

Speaker 1 (01:00:04):
What happens if I'm driving down my car and a
pothole or a sinkhole comes in.

Speaker 3 (01:00:08):
That's already worse.

Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
What happens, if a semi goes out of control.

Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
What if somebody comes through that door and
kills you?

Speaker 1 (01:00:15):
Yeah Well, that's not going to happen because I have
my base Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:00:20):
Yes we got it in.

Speaker 4 (01:00:22):
Let's go.

Speaker 1 (01:00:23):
So, he walks in he's like why is there a chair on the
inside of your bedroom door?
And I put a chair.

Speaker 2 (01:00:28):
It was like right in the walkway.
Yeah, I was like why is thisdude in here?

Speaker 1 (01:00:32):
Okay, first of all nobody's walking into my room,
except for me, okay.

Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
That's not true, because I just walked in.
Yeah, but that's not like aregular situation.

Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
People aren't always visiting here, that's true.
So every night before I go tobed I walk through the bathroom.
I lock my door.
The bathroom has a lock, so Ilock that.
I go in my closet, through thecloset into my bedroom.

Speaker 2 (01:00:58):
He has a huge walk-in closet with two doors.

Speaker 1 (01:01:01):
Yes, thank you for the description.
And then I put my chair infront of my door my bedroom a
little bit over extensive andwell, you guys, you guys are
really really bad at listening,but very good at interrupting.
So I put my chair in front ofthe door, so if somebody breaks
in the front door, they're notgetting through the bathroom.

(01:01:23):
I want to hear them by thistime.
Oh yeah, if they come through myroom, they're going that chair
is going to fold.
I've tested it.
It folds and falls down.
So I'm obviously going to beawake by that point.
There's also a stand like afoot in, so they're going to
think that the person causethey're disoriented, they're
breaking into my apartment.
They have no idea.
Maybe it's dark, yeah, maybeit's dark.

(01:01:44):
Well, not, maybe it is dark, itis dark.

Speaker 2 (01:01:46):
Well, I mean unless they turn on the light.

Speaker 1 (01:01:48):
So then I have my base next to my bed until I get
my shotgun.
So if they walk into the doorand I'm just like this and I
slam down on their head, that isnot going to be a good feeling
for them.
No, it's not.
They're going to dream worldunless they're in a bad place
and they're going nightmareworld and it's a solid body base
so it's not going to break inhalf.

(01:02:09):
It's full force back of thehead or the front of the head
getting smacked with a base it'svery descriptive just has a
base next to his bed yeah, so Ihave a base next to my bed.
Then like, and that's, that'sgotta be worse than getting shot
with a shotgun?
Probably Can you imagine,because a shotgun you're dead,
you're not going to feel much.

Speaker 3 (01:02:29):
Well, not unless you shoot their kneecaps out or
something stupid.
I'm not aiming.

Speaker 2 (01:02:33):
Here's the thing I'm aiming at the door, you don't
have to though I gotta say it'sso thick like there's no way
anybody's breaking through thatdoor?

Speaker 4 (01:02:48):
yeah, but there's a window right there, yeah, but a
window.

Speaker 1 (01:02:50):
You're gonna hear, oh yeah, then they have to worry
about stepping on glass, so it'sreally not the most practical
way of breaking into somebody'shouse is through a window, but
what I really want to get isbear traps.
Can you imagine putting beartraps all over your house and
what step in it?
What happened?

Speaker 2 (01:03:07):
I'm just saying Did you have somebody walk into your
room when you were?

Speaker 1 (01:03:10):
younger.
No, I think it's from all thehorror movies that I've watched.
It's like I never want to dealwith that.

Speaker 4 (01:03:16):
But can you?

Speaker 1 (01:03:17):
imagine if somebody walked in, stepped on a bear
trap.
Yeah, they don't even need togo to jail.
They're never breaking intosomebody's house again.
No, because a bear trap wouldbe if I got the most agonizing
pain in the entire world becauseyou're still alive and you no
longer have an ankle especiallyif you remove the release.

Speaker 3 (01:03:39):
Yeah, exactly, then you ain't getting away at that
point.
You're not getting offscot-free at that point, because
how are you going to remove it?
You chop off your own leg andhobble to the hospital, exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:03:48):
Yeah, those things are hard.

Speaker 2 (01:03:50):
Those would go into your bone.
Oh yeah, no, they're men.

Speaker 1 (01:03:53):
They go into a bear's bone, so they're meant to go
into a human's, if they werewalking.
You could slice a human's legoff, probably, and I wouldn have
to do the like, turn the othercheek in the bible, like I went
out to worry about that becausethey stepped on it and it ain't
my fault, you stepped on that.
So then you walked in andstepped on something that you
shouldn't have spent that soafter they're in the bear trap,

(01:04:13):
you hit them with your guitar.

Speaker 3 (01:04:17):
What a double whammy right there.

Speaker 1 (01:04:19):
Yes, literally if you had a whammy bar too wrong
house Exactly and then it liketeaches them a lesson.
They're like I'm never breakinginto a house again, boom.

Speaker 2 (01:04:31):
You're the justice system.
They might die from that too.

Speaker 1 (01:04:33):
Well then, they're really not breaking into
somebody's house Because theydid that is true, Because they
did.
I would actually Be like repentand believe I'd save them, and
then they die and then they'reoff.

Speaker 3 (01:04:50):
Repent, and then you die.

Speaker 2 (01:04:52):
That's it.
What defenses do you have inyour house, stephan?
I have my gun.
Oh, okay, yeah well.

Speaker 1 (01:04:59):
I want to get a shotgun Pump action, because
with a shotgun I just have tohide in the corner and aim at
the door.
Yeah, because they're notcoming to the bathroom.
I know that, uh, already then,all of a sudden, the chair falls
and then it's like bam, I'm noteven giving a warning shot,
like I'm just shooting this,this got really like you know,
you know, I guess I do have abone arrow, so I could use that

(01:05:24):
oh, all right d.

Speaker 2 (01:05:24):
Daryl.

Speaker 4 (01:05:25):
Dixon Close quarters, bow and arrow.

Speaker 1 (01:05:26):
I have to go to the bathroom again.

Speaker 2 (01:05:27):
Again.
Wow, you're at two and we're atzero.
Bro, what are we going to talkabout now?

Speaker 3 (01:05:33):
I know, talk about your bow and arrow, did he just
say?
Okay?
So I'll say this real quickabout, since we're really off
topic about the whole datingthing.
So I was telling caleb one ofthese days that I want to bring
in my bug out bag and kind of goover it, because you have a, oh
, you have a bug out bag.
Yeah, I have a bug out bag, somy plan is talked about this

(01:05:54):
once this.
This is one thing, and I toldcaleb on a podcast I don't know
if you heard in a coupleepisodes ago when I was on it
where I don't think so there wasone part where it's talking
about like where an apocalypsekind of thing could happen.
Not like an apocalypse likezombies and all that crap, but
like where basically, no matterwho gets voted for, there's
something that's going to happen.
Whether harris gets elected orwhether trump gets elected,

(01:06:17):
something is going to happen atthat point so my I'll I know
somebody that knows someone thatis updated with all.

Speaker 4 (01:06:27):
That is a person.
That is a person.

Speaker 3 (01:06:28):
Yeah.
I know someone that knowssomeone that is up to date with
the most kind of things thathappen.

Speaker 1 (01:06:32):
That's right.
You were supposed to tell melast time who this guy is,
because we can't say on here,but you can tell me.

Speaker 3 (01:06:36):
I'll tell you next time.
Yeah, Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:06:39):
That's for the podcast.

Speaker 3 (01:06:40):
But yeah basically, what ends up happening is that
if something happens to wherethey're going to shut down crap
or something stupid, I'm not oneof those superstition guys
where it's like, oh my gosh, theend of the world is happening
tomorrow Are you a?
Little stitious.
I would say a little.

Speaker 2 (01:06:55):
Okay, yeah, I'm furgalicious.
Yeah, I mean, my family haslike a… we're going to move on.

Speaker 3 (01:07:00):
So, yeah, sorry, I totally missed that so the bug
out bag I have, just in case ofthe event that I need to get out
and go on my own, like becauseright now that's also part of
the reason why I have amotorcycle, other than the fact
I've wanted one for years, samewith tattoos I have wanted to
have a tattoo.
I have six.
Oh yeah, I have six been when?

Speaker 2 (01:07:23):
Okay, yeah, I see one there on your arm.

Speaker 3 (01:07:25):
Well, yeah there's one, two, three, and then
there's four, five and then six.

Speaker 4 (01:07:29):
Dude, I just don't pay attention enough probably.

Speaker 3 (01:07:30):
No, you're good, but yeah, the motorcycle in a likel
likel, in a likely situationwhere you need to get out.
Likel For one the yeah in theyeah in a likeable situation,
the, the interstate, is going tobe the most crowded, because if
you've seen any kind of likehorror movie where it's like,
you know, doomsday or somethinglike that or a good example,

(01:07:52):
cloverfield or just florida orflorida, yeah, there's that like
a couple weeks the highways areblocked, yeah, yeah the
highways are blocked and peopletry to get out because they're
like, yeah, this is the quickestway.
But on a motorcycle, yeah,you're very limited on at least
off-road terrain versus like.
If I got in my accord and likewas gonna go off on a country

(01:08:14):
road trail, but I can weave inand out in traffic and take side
roads a little bit easier, andif I need to go off-road, you
know, then at that point I'llhave to just be more cautious,
but I have more range at thatpoint.
Plus, I have a like almost fivegallon tank on my honda shadow.

Speaker 1 (01:08:33):
So that's gallons, that's not that much it, but I
got for a motorcycle you can goabout as far as a car you can
300 miles.

Speaker 3 (01:08:40):
Yeah, it's about 300 miles before philip, and then I
have a gas light on Fill up who.

Speaker 2 (01:08:48):
Yeah, but some trucks have two gas.

Speaker 3 (01:08:51):
Yeah, but that's a semi truck you're talking about.

Speaker 2 (01:08:54):
No, no, there's some older trucks.

Speaker 3 (01:08:56):
Like an R10.

Speaker 1 (01:08:57):
Chevy, that have what ?
Two gallons?
Yeah, it's like 40 gallons ineach one.

Speaker 2 (01:09:02):
So they have 80 gallon capacity Wow, 40 gallons,
good Lord.
They have 80 gallon capacitywow, 40 gallons, good lord.
I mean they also get crap gasmileage.

Speaker 3 (01:09:09):
So yeah, but, yeah, but then when you're looking at
it through again, why not?

Speaker 1 (01:09:12):
just make one big tank?
Why not?
Why is it like two?
Two tanks of 40 gallons each.
Why not make a one, 80 gallon?

Speaker 3 (01:09:20):
visual, probably like with you can switch over I
don't know, but yeah, like themotorcycle is more of a verse,
it's more of you can get outeasier and have little to no
trouble with, I feel like, ondirt roads.
It wouldn't be good, though no,it's, it's not trust me because
back in the year when I visitedmy folks.

Speaker 1 (01:09:38):
Back roads isn't exactly just dirt roads every
time no, I'm just saying dirtroads.

Speaker 3 (01:09:42):
It would not be good, but that's the thing too, is
that like so back in cedar,where?
my folks were at the rv, theywould, um, they have a dirt road
and so that motorcycle you'dhave to go slow on, but it was
an actual dirt road.
So because, if you turn onewrong way with your fork, then
you're just, you're done at thatpoint like you're gonna tip
your bike or something's gonnahappen or you're gonna slide.

(01:10:04):
A Braking is not that easy ondirt roads too on a bike, but
you're again, you have a lotmore.
Uh, what, what's it called?
Um, um, you basically have morerange and more freedom to be on
a bike and just get out of Dodgeif you need to, then I would be
in my car.
I wouldn't need to go anywhere,so you're planning on holding

(01:10:26):
down the fort in your bathroom?

Speaker 2 (01:10:29):
Well, my family has a group spot where we meet if
stuff goes down, and it'sactually at my house.

Speaker 1 (01:10:35):
Can I be part of it?

Speaker 2 (01:10:36):
I'm planning on going down south If I get a gun can I
be part of it?

Speaker 1 (01:10:38):
I'm planning on going down south.

Speaker 3 (01:10:39):
Can I be part of it?

Speaker 2 (01:10:42):
It's a far drive for you, though, like everybody else
, that we all live inMiddleville, dude, I can't tell
people.

Speaker 3 (01:10:51):
I'm not saying give away your position as soon as
the revolution happens, as soonas everybody on this podcast are
in Middleville.

Speaker 1 (01:10:59):
They're this podcast.
I can't wait for every sentencein this podcast to get flagged
by the FBI.

Speaker 3 (01:11:04):
I'm just saying I'm going south FDA, that's where
I'm going.
Fbi I'm not that far from you.

Speaker 2 (01:11:12):
I mean it's still like 30 minutes.

Speaker 1 (01:11:14):
Yeah, but if everything is going down, it's
not going to fall apart in 30minutes.

Speaker 2 (01:11:18):
No, yeah, I'm just saying, either way, you can't
stop me, I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:11:22):
I know where you live .
I'm going to.
I know where you live.

Speaker 2 (01:11:26):
I will provide shotgun shells oh okay, yes, you
only have shotgun shells noteven a gun.

Speaker 1 (01:11:33):
If it's just like, if a revolution happened, I'm not
a.
It's not going to happen, I'mgoing to be frontline shotgun.
Do you already have the?

Speaker 2 (01:11:41):
shotgun shells, but not a shotgun.

Speaker 1 (01:11:42):
No, I have the shotgun.
It's at my parents' house, butit's a single shot.
I want to get like a pumpaction.

Speaker 2 (01:11:47):
Yeah, my dad has like a loader that's like what?

Speaker 3 (01:11:50):
Like a 12-gauge pump.

Speaker 2 (01:11:55):
Yeah well, 12 pump, that's like six.

Speaker 1 (01:11:58):
If they sell semi-automatic shotguns, I'm
getting one of those.

Speaker 3 (01:12:02):
But I don't know if they sell them.
I don't think they do.
I mean, when I went, toCabela's.

Speaker 1 (01:12:06):
Well, semi-automatic is like.

Speaker 3 (01:12:07):
Yeah, you have to pull the trigger every time, but
like, yeah, a semi-automatic oran auto, whatever you know,
yeah, but a pump just fastalmost as fast, or?

Speaker 2 (01:12:15):
the shoot it and then you pump it?

Speaker 4 (01:12:17):
yeah, it's not even that.

Speaker 1 (01:12:18):
But if they had an a12 with, like the big barrel,
yeah, the shotgun.
That would be my choice ofweapon they, if a revolution
happened, I would be front line.
I'm probably gonna be the firstone to die.
That's okay, because I don'twant to be like I don't want to
be alive anymore.
Yeah exactly, I don't want tobe like, I don't want to be
worried about everything like ifjust want to die.
If I'm back of the line and yousee all your comrades dying,

(01:12:44):
all of your army.

Speaker 2 (01:12:45):
People run the other way typically, but you're saying
you'd go the other way, I'd belike running charging with a
shotgun and just giving it myall, and then I'd be down.

Speaker 1 (01:12:56):
Because if you're like the most nuisance enemy on
the all, if you're like the mostnuisance enemy on the
battlefield and you're likeshooting with a shotgun, like
they're like get that guy downand then, and then you're dead
and then you don't feel anythingno, the worst, worse is like a
machine gun in war.

Speaker 2 (01:13:13):
To be honest, machine gunner, yeah, machine gun,
that's you, I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:13:17):
If, you have a machine gun shotgun.

Speaker 2 (01:13:20):
Yeah, I mean yeah, but you are public enemy number
one but it doesn't rifle is waybetter.

Speaker 1 (01:13:26):
Yeah, but if you're in their face, here's a yeah if
you can get close enough.
I don't know I would be closeenough.
I would wait for them to belike a way for them to like go
over me, and then I'd just startlike blasting them in the back
with my shotgun.

Speaker 3 (01:13:42):
Can I intervene for one second?
Yes, I think I have a new one.
You're going to have to retitlethis whole podcast now that's
fine.

Speaker 1 (01:13:52):
Yeah, I know A new topic.
Modern dating and guns, datingguns and politics.
Dating guns and politics that'swhat it's probably going to be
called.

Speaker 3 (01:14:00):
I'll say this right now I have a Taurus G3 pistol.
It's like, I think it's onethat cops use Not nowadays, but
I think I forget the actual onethat they mainly use but a
Taurus G3 is like one that copsuse and it's a 9 caliber or a 9
mil Well, yeah, same ninecaliber.

(01:14:21):
And uh, or a nine mil not.
Well, yeah, same thing.
But, um, yeah, it's, it's agood.
I haven't shot it yet, is thething, but um, it's really good.
I'll say that from the reviewsthat I've seen, it's, it's very
good and it doesn't have a wholelot of kick to it, like where
it's gonna like blow your backout or anything like that.
Like it's what, or anythinglike that, like it's what.
Why wouldn't it blow your backout?

(01:14:49):
You know what I mean?
This guy is going to blow yourback out.
No, I'm saying.
Are you saying?
No, we don't.

Speaker 2 (01:14:55):
I'm saying we don't know what you're saying, I'm
saying blow your back out as inlike you're going to feel back
pain like from the kick.
Like from a shock.
Yeah, but it's not your back,it's your shoulder, dude.

Speaker 3 (01:15:09):
No, but like, if you're stiff enough, yeah, it's
true, like the kick back, it'slike.

Speaker 1 (01:15:15):
Yeah, it'll like kind of knock you back, a lady back,
or something yeah, but you'regonna hurt your shoulder from a
pistol, ethan, yeah, no, I saidyeah, if you hold it in front of
you like that, then yeah,you're just gonna.

Speaker 3 (01:15:27):
You know you're still having okay.

Speaker 1 (01:15:29):
So what use are you gonna be in a war with a pistol?
I mean, I can't snipe, have youseen?

Speaker 3 (01:15:34):
my snow goggle of glasses I can't snipe worth crap
.

Speaker 1 (01:15:38):
Yeah, I agree, I'm just saying a pistol is more of
a sidearm.
You either need to be a machinegunner shotgunner with me, or
assault rifle.
Well, I would probably stickwith a shotgun and pistol,
because, the thing— so you'redying in the first 30 minutes of
war with me.

Speaker 3 (01:15:55):
If I need to get out of Dodge and I'm on my
motorcycle, the pistol is goingto come in handy, because I can
still ride with one hand on thethrottle and brake and then I
can use my other hand.

Speaker 1 (01:16:07):
How often have you practiced that not?

Speaker 2 (01:16:09):
enough but all this doesn't matter, because if you
don't have air supportsuperiority, it doesn't matter.

Speaker 3 (01:16:17):
What do you mean?
Air support when?
We come on in an airstrike,you're saying.

Speaker 2 (01:16:21):
You're saying invaded us and they have air
superiority.
It doesn't matter, they're justgonna kill, okay.

Speaker 1 (01:16:27):
Okay, if we're talking about somebody invading
us if it's invading, there's adifference.

Speaker 3 (01:16:31):
Right, we would have just a civil war.
Oh, are you talking?

Speaker 1 (01:16:33):
just people go crazy yeah people, view people but I
do want to talk about if we wereat war with invasion.

Speaker 3 (01:16:40):
Yeah, from another country.

Speaker 1 (01:16:43):
There's no way they're winning because we have
the government with us oh no,everybody would die.
No, we would win, because oh,yeah, yeah.
Say, russia comes over here andinvades us, okay, they have to
deal with first the government.

(01:17:03):
The government forces are gonnalike battle each other.
But then can you imagine beingon the ground as a russian
soldier and you're like going?

Speaker 2 (01:17:06):
to a neighborhood.
It's like oh, here's grandmawith a shotgun like that's.

Speaker 1 (01:17:08):
That's your easiest enemy.

Speaker 2 (01:17:08):
Is grandma with a shotgun, mama cocoa unless you
are that country and you canactually convince half the
population that it's okay, likethat we're doing this.
That's the only way there'sthere.

Speaker 1 (01:17:23):
Well, because then you got half versus half and
then it depends, because Iactually am learning russian on
duolingo right now so you'rebecoming a russian spy as well?

Speaker 2 (01:17:33):
yeah, well, I'm taking the team bowling the f.

Speaker 1 (01:17:34):
I think, caleb, you want to go bowling, the FBI is
watching me and you guys planthings oh gotcha.
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:17:42):
So you're planning to go?

Speaker 1 (01:17:43):
to.

Speaker 4 (01:17:44):
Nova Scotia?
Yeah, I know.

Speaker 1 (01:17:45):
Yeah, I know.

Speaker 3 (01:17:49):
Anyways.
So you're planning to go toNova Scotia.
Is that what your plan is?

Speaker 1 (01:17:54):
Yes, comrade Caleb, that's Canada, isn't it?
I don't know Nova Scotia, Ithink that's Canada.

Speaker 2 (01:17:58):
But yeah, if it's anarchy, I'm in a good spot
because my brother-in-law is inSIG, so he's got a lot of guns.

Speaker 1 (01:18:07):
Maybe you shouldn't say that publicly.

Speaker 2 (01:18:08):
We'll cut that out.
Why can't I say that?

Speaker 3 (01:18:13):
Because, he's in Middleville apparently Actually
no, they don't know who he is.
I didn't say he lived in themiddle of the world.

Speaker 1 (01:18:18):
He also didn't say his name.
No, did not.
What's his name?
It doesn't matter dude.

Speaker 3 (01:18:28):
That's true.

Speaker 2 (01:18:29):
Well, I mean, if it's an emergency, I feel like he
would be able to use those guns.
Yeah, yeah, but yeah, normallyyou would not.

Speaker 1 (01:18:38):
Yes, normally you would not.
Yes, normally you would not.
He actually doesn't have themavailable right now.
It's just like if an emergencyhappens, a magic barrier goes
down.

Speaker 2 (01:18:48):
Dude, why can't I not say that?

Speaker 1 (01:18:50):
You can, but I'm just saying well, because I'm afraid
of like government buyback withguns, yeah, but Sig sells the
guns to the government.

Speaker 2 (01:19:03):
Oh well then, I mean, I don't know, I don't think
that would happen.

Speaker 4 (01:19:08):
The government needs a business to sell their guns.

Speaker 2 (01:19:11):
They're not necessarily his, but they're not
.

Speaker 1 (01:19:12):
The government needs businesses to sell them guns.

Speaker 2 (01:19:16):
Yes, but businesses bid for the guns.

Speaker 1 (01:19:21):
Every time I talk to people in this country, I'm
convinced our government getsdumber.

Speaker 2 (01:19:27):
It's always been that way, though, like Browning,
that's a company.

Speaker 1 (01:19:30):
Yeah, I know Browning's a company.
Yeah, I didn't know thegovernment was like we need
people to build those guns.
It's a huge thing.

Speaker 2 (01:19:42):
If Sig gets their gun into the government, that's a
huge sell.

Speaker 1 (01:19:46):
X amount of dollars.
I understand that.
I just thought the governmentwould have the army creating
guns, but I guess our governmentis just as dumb as I thought
they were.
No everything is made in Chinaor some other country, it's just
like how GM that true vermontdude, everything's are gone.

Speaker 3 (01:20:02):
but here's the thing, though, is even our cars today
chevy, you know, gmc, ford,they're all garbage vehicles, a
hundred percent.
My brother's chevy avalanche,that thing is not going to
outlast the honda, it's not andthat is the one qualm.

Speaker 1 (01:20:21):
Well, that's one of the qualms I have with
capitalism.
I do not hate capitalism.
I think it's the greatesteconomic system.
But in this system you areright, because chevy and and
ford and all, them.
They don't think with guns,though yeah, they don't care,
they just want to make money andthey want people to come back
and buy more, whereas honda andthese other companies from
foreign countries are like wewant to make the best thing

(01:20:43):
that's going to be best for youand last forever right, like I
had my old 1991 honda I rememberthat thing I had for 10 years
and I got it from 230 000 milesto over 500 and it was still
chugging.

Speaker 3 (01:20:56):
The only problem it had was that rust was holding
the entire thing up, and thatwas that and that was right when
I scrapped it I mean chevy andford.

Speaker 2 (01:21:05):
Technically isn't government though, is it?

Speaker 3 (01:21:07):
no, it's not government it's, american it's
american yeah, american madestuff is not sick is american
made.

Speaker 1 (01:21:14):
Yeah, but didn't you just say it's the same with guns
?

Speaker 2 (01:21:17):
I mean, it's the same with guns as in like.
The government isn't good atmaking like anything which is
the United States, correct?
So that's what?
Well, that's, that's a, wasn'tit hasn't always been that way.

Speaker 1 (01:21:29):
No, because it's most of like.
Up until recently it's been thecapitalist market where
everybody is trying to make thebest of the best.
And that's why capitalism works, Because if you are a gun
company and you make this gunand you sell it for such and
such, but Johnny Bogarty downthe street is like making a
better gun and he can make itfor slightly less, it's like

(01:21:53):
whoa, what do we got to do tochange?
And that's why capitalism works.
But I think the best thing yeahyeah, it is the best thing, I
agree, but I think there's timeswhere it has gotten out of hand
with, like when we think ofcars ford and chevy.
It's like honda's last forever.

Speaker 3 (01:22:09):
Yeah they do, they really do so do toyota.

Speaker 1 (01:22:11):
You could go a thousand miles over without
changing your oil, and theengine's still not going to blow
up and and that's becausedifferent countries like
volkswagen, too, with germanylike they're trying to make
something for you that's goingto last forever, that's going to
be the best quality, whereas incapitalism we can get stuck in

(01:22:32):
what we just want to make asmuch money as possible.
So we're going to make a carthat lasts 180 000 miles like a
chevy and then when it does itcraps out boom, you got to buy
another one.
You owe us more money, whereaswith a honda it's like I
remember his honda accord waswhat?
250 000 or was it.

Speaker 3 (01:22:48):
It capped out.
When I scrapped it again, itwas still chugging on the
original engine and transmissionat over 500 000 miles on it 500
000, 500 000 yeah, 500 000 500it was like 529 000?

Speaker 1 (01:23:04):
are you sure it wasn't 320?

Speaker 3 (01:23:06):
no, because I had that thing for over 10 years and
I went to lansing and back andchicago and back.
I did a lot of traveling inthat.

Speaker 4 (01:23:12):
Okay, well, I'm gonna take your word, that's only a
couple thousand yeah, exactly,I'll take your word for it five
hundred twenty thousand is a ton.

Speaker 1 (01:23:21):
Yeah, I, I didn't see it, so I can't stop.
I might have to take stefan'sword, but yeah, they do last
forever and kia like well, Ithink those are just cheap he
has people garbage they they'renot garbage, yeah, they are they
had a

Speaker 3 (01:23:36):
whole of their engines blowing up on people.

Speaker 1 (01:23:39):
Dude, you called my car garbage.
Well, everybody has recalls.

Speaker 4 (01:23:41):
Yeah, I forgot, you have a Kia.

Speaker 1 (01:23:44):
You do have a.

Speaker 2 (01:23:45):
Kia, what do you have ?
I also see them all.

Speaker 3 (01:23:47):
You have an Optima.

Speaker 2 (01:23:48):
No, I got the one that everybody steals.
Don't steal my car.

Speaker 1 (01:23:52):
Kia boys the.

Speaker 2 (01:23:54):
Kia boys will going to come steal my car.

Speaker 3 (01:23:55):
But like, I'm sorry, but from my experience of like
people that I've had personallythat have had Kias, and then
also me being an O'Reillymanager and having to deal with
the Kia dealership, kila yeah,the Kila dealership and they
have had nothing but recalls andissues with their vehicles,
like nonstop.
Like Kevin, one of the guysdown there on plainfield.

(01:24:17):
He was sitting there and hegoes yeah, man, like this is our
third engine replacement of theday today.
And it's like why?
And he goes oh, because youknow, there's oil leaking into
the rods and all this other crapor there's like a blown head
gasket.
I'm like, well, what's themileage at?
Is it over 100?
Is it over 200?
It goes, no, it's at 30.

Speaker 2 (01:24:34):
And I'm like yeah, they didn't take care of their
car when they were supposed to.

Speaker 3 (01:24:39):
The only acceptable thing I find for Kias and I'm
not personally attacking you,but as Kia is a car owner they
are only good for student drivertesting.
That's it.
That's the only use of a Kia.

Speaker 2 (01:24:53):
But why is it like 25% of people are driving a Kia
if you look around?

Speaker 3 (01:24:58):
I mean because they're cheap.
Is it because they're justcheap?
Is that just because you own?

Speaker 1 (01:25:02):
one, and you happen to see them more.
No.

Speaker 2 (01:25:05):
I literally, because they have two different symbols.
You know what?

Speaker 1 (01:25:08):
I mean the old school and the new one, the old school
and the new school.
How cheap are they?

Speaker 2 (01:25:11):
There's a lot out there.
You can get a new one for like25.
Yeah, that's okay.

Speaker 3 (01:25:18):
A newer and that's like 35 okay, that ain't that
cheap.

Speaker 1 (01:25:23):
And how long are they lasting?

Speaker 2 (01:25:24):
that's cheap and car standards and car standards yes
but how?

Speaker 1 (01:25:28):
how long are they lasting?

Speaker 2 (01:25:29):
because if it's like, oh yeah, I don't think they're
lasting that.

Speaker 1 (01:25:32):
Well, okay, if you're saying that, I'm just saying
you were to tell me that theylasted 200, maybe 220,000, I'd
be like, yeah, okay, I don'tthink they're old enough, but I
don't know, maybe some of theolder ones, but the fact that
they don't last that long is theproblem.
You can make a cheap car If youmake a cheap car and it's like
15,000, but it only lasts150,000,.

Speaker 3 (01:25:52):
I'll buy one.

Speaker 1 (01:25:53):
Yeah 15,000 bucks.

Speaker 4 (01:25:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:26:02):
Yeah, 15 000 bucks.

Speaker 3 (01:26:03):
Yeah, yeah, I'll buy one, but 25 000 I think it's 20,
21 to 25 yeah, yeah, well,either way, but over the 20 000
mark, that's a lot of money.
And I was gonna say too, withback to the honda accord too, I
also had an inline four, whichthose the four honda has been
known to make the bestfour-cylinder, whether inline or
not, inline four-cylinder,whether inline or not, inline
four-cylinder engines.

Speaker 2 (01:26:20):
I was going to say people don't even know what that
means.
Is inline?
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:26:24):
They make the best four-cylinder engines.
They last forever.
You could beat the crap out ofit and it's still going to get
you from point A to B.
Their V6s probably not theirbest, but still pretty decent.
Their V8s garbage.
I'll say that I think I'm gonnastick with honda because I've
had the best luck.
I had a jeep at one point.

(01:26:45):
That thing exploded at 300 000miles on the dot, that is pretty
good though, yeah, 300 000 fora jeep yeah, because jeeps are
known to have a lot ofelectrical and mechanical issues
.
There I mean, it was cool.

Speaker 1 (01:26:58):
I like it, driving pointing up his finger.
What do you want to say?

Speaker 2 (01:27:00):
I was gonna say judy hops is staring at you right now
.
Yeah, dude, why she's?

Speaker 1 (01:27:05):
like a dude she's been staring at me that's got
the mustache those are whiskers,but the mustache necklace oh
electric cars.

Speaker 2 (01:27:15):
They're super expensive and they were blowing
up a while back which one theTeslas.

Speaker 3 (01:27:24):
Teslas Rivians are actually pretty good, not my,
Elon Musk.

Speaker 2 (01:27:27):
Yeah, I know, I mean, even if it is expensive
sometimes, it doesn't last.

Speaker 3 (01:27:31):
No, Teslas are garbage.

Speaker 1 (01:27:33):
Guess who's got to go to the bathroom again, Dude no
way you know what the problem is.
Soda for me.
Me is it's a dia, it's adiuretic, so it makes you pee a
lot and I probably have.

Speaker 2 (01:27:44):
Maybe it hits me more you know what else makes you
pee a lot?
What water?
Yeah, but yeah, so I will.

Speaker 3 (01:27:54):
if we were all forced to get electric vehicles at
this point because that's whatthey wanted us to do is, I would
go with a Rivian.
I'm not even going to lie, it'sa unibody.

Speaker 2 (01:28:05):
What is a Rivian?
It's a truck.
I don't know about it.

Speaker 3 (01:28:07):
Oh.

Speaker 4 (01:28:08):
I should have looked that up.

Speaker 3 (01:28:09):
Yeah, Rivians, they're actually now the Amazon
partner with them and they havedelivery vehicles that are now
all Rivian electric.
Rivian electric they're so far.
They're they're pretty upexpensive, like eighty thousand
dollars or so, but they'repretty good electric vehicles so
far compared to like a tesla.

Speaker 4 (01:28:25):
Yeah, and then same thing, they hold up better oh,
yeah, they hold up way better,are they like?

Speaker 2 (01:28:29):
this is what I have a problem with electric cars is
they're so freaking heavy dudeyeah, and the battery's like
twenty thousand dollars, likethe brakes are like super
expensive.
It's like dude this.
This car just has nothing butproblems.

Speaker 3 (01:28:41):
Oh yeah no, there was , uh, tesla rotors.
I believe somewhere that I sawthat like somebody, for just
regular customer price was likealmost 150, 200 bucks for each
rotor.
I'm like, are you kidding me?
And they're not even likespecial, like vented or whatever
, they're just like a solidrotor and it's like, are you
kidding?
Like that's ridiculous.
And then even, too, the problemwith electric vehicles.

(01:29:04):
Now too, the batteries are like$20,000 starting.

Speaker 2 (01:29:08):
Yeah, you can't afford that if it goes out.

Speaker 3 (01:29:11):
No, and you have to be a certified technician.
In that, so, like for Tesla,you have to be a certified Tesla
technician.
And plus Michigan right now inthat, so like for tesla, you
have to be a certified teslatechnician and plus michigan
right now.
Yeah, that's the review.
Yeah, that's the rivian they're.
They're cool looking um, andthe thing is too is that um in
michigan?

Speaker 4 (01:29:27):
since gm.

Speaker 3 (01:29:28):
Like we're the automotive state pretty much.
Um, they don't allow teslas tobe worked on or whatever at in
our state so you have to get ittransferred over to another
state that's certified to fixyour tesla to get it looked at
dude, I think they did that withuh amazon vans too you must
have to do that um which?

Speaker 2 (01:29:48):
I think that doesn't that doesn't create a free
market.
That's that's, but that'sbullcrap in my my opinion.
To me, I'll say this much.

Speaker 1 (01:29:56):
Two things.
First of all, rivian cars areawesome, even though they're
electrical.
And what are you saying doesn'tcreate a free market.

Speaker 2 (01:30:03):
If you can't work on an electric car yourself, like
the battery and stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (01:30:07):
No, I mean you can do basic stuff like brakes and
stuff, but when it comes to thebattery, yeah, no, you have to
be certified because that's likelethal crap.

Speaker 2 (01:30:19):
Like one false move.
You're done like, yeah, but whycan't you just get certified in
?

Speaker 3 (01:30:21):
michigan because we're they won't be able to.
Gm owns the whole automotiveindustry, and that's competition
, and tesla is elon musk, sothat we are moving to a less
free country yeah, it'ssomething

Speaker 1 (01:30:34):
I mean I don't want to say I just accept it, but
it's true.

Speaker 3 (01:30:37):
Well, yeah, I mean because again it sounds crappy,
but like, for example, like youknow, the, what was it that
happened?
The forest fires in Hawaii orsomething like that that
happened?
Yeah, there was something wasabout, I think it was I don't
think it was Oprah specificallyfor the person, but they were
looking to get more land.

Speaker 2 (01:30:59):
And so people in the residency were like they were
gonna buy the land.

Speaker 3 (01:31:00):
Yeah, they were gonna buy the land.
And people were like no, you'renot doing that.
And so those fires convenientlyburned down that area of land
and then anything that wasmarked with a certain thing was
untouched, like there's propertyout there that was like it
doesn't even look like anythingwent by it no fumes, no ashes,
no nothing oh, we gottainvestigate this now.

Speaker 2 (01:31:19):
Right, we gotta put them and then put something
around it.

Speaker 3 (01:31:22):
Oh, oprah duane, the rock johnson, coming.
They're like you need to giveus money.
It's like you guys makebillions of dollars a year.
I think you can afford it.
We can't.

Speaker 1 (01:31:31):
I can't even get rent , yeah stuff, and we talked
about this on the last one, wedon't want to go too into it
yeah, I know, but it's like that.

Speaker 3 (01:31:37):
That's just how it is , is like the people like not
being a free country anymore.
It's like that's how peopleliterally are nowadays.
If you're not going to give itup, then we're going to take it
from you.
At this point, it's not goingto be your freedom.

Speaker 2 (01:31:49):
That's like what the well, that's, that's what
they're doing, sorry, go ahead.
What the fourth one?

Speaker 3 (01:31:55):
what that's.
Freedom of speech.
Is what amendment?
The first one, or is that?

Speaker 1 (01:31:59):
I think it's the first one, isn't it?
Because the second amendment isguns, yeah the second is right
to bear arms, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:32:05):
Freedom of press.
I think is yeah, number one.

Speaker 1 (01:32:07):
Yeah, which I think is also freedom of speech.

Speaker 3 (01:32:09):
Right.
So it's yeah, they're justgoing back and forth on that.
It's like okay, cool, butyou're also creating more
problems if you're not lettingus be able to do that.
You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:32:23):
Yeah, I mean, that's what big businesses are doing
with real estate too is they'rebuying all the real estate and
renting it out to people.
It's like why are you guysbuying real estate?
It doesn't make sense, no.
So what about Florida?

Speaker 3 (01:32:36):
That's like more recent, there was something with
lithium or something like thatwasn't there.

Speaker 1 (01:32:42):
That was Hurricane Helene in North Carolina.

Speaker 3 (01:32:44):
North Carolina.
Okay, and that's just aconspiracy theory.

Speaker 1 (01:32:47):
Well, we did kind of cover this on our last one.

Speaker 2 (01:32:50):
I didn't know, sorry.

Speaker 1 (01:32:52):
Well, I mean we can talk about it again.
I just don't want to go toointo it because I really don't
want repeat conversations.
I just don't want to go toointo it because I really don't
want repeat conversations.
But the theory is that so Idon't know if the government can
create hurricanes, but I thinkthey can.

Speaker 2 (01:33:08):
That's a theory, dude .
There's no way.

Speaker 3 (01:33:10):
Yeah, there's been a theory for the government
controlling weather.
Well, that's what climate?

Speaker 1 (01:33:13):
control is If they can control climate to be good,
they can most certainly controlclimate to be bad.

Speaker 3 (01:33:19):
if that's the case.
Yeah, they could sit there andbe like we're gonna have the
worst winter in like america in30 years or something.

Speaker 2 (01:33:25):
Yeah, I just think that's here hearsay though yeah,
like I don't think they canactually even create, uh well,
weather.
Yet I mean what?

Speaker 1 (01:33:32):
about cloud seeding, like I'm pretty sure that's
proven where they add water tothe clouds and they make it rain
.
Well, yeah, and even too, Imean as a dumb example.

Speaker 3 (01:33:41):
But like you know, like how they have ski lounges
like Pando and uh Cannonsburg,they use fake snow.
Yeah, but that's so small scaleright, that's small scale, but
just imagine if they hadsomething that could go up there
or do something that they putin with the crop dusting or some
stupid crap.

Speaker 1 (01:33:58):
Either way, that crop does all the theory.

Speaker 3 (01:34:03):

Speaker 1 (01:34:06):
The theory is that they they were doing something
with the weather during Kirk andColleen to North Carolina
because there was like.
Either it was because there waslithium or it's like a very
Republican area.
So they're like trying toextinguish extinguish it.
Yeah the entire area.

(01:34:26):
The theory is either that theycreated rain or more water,
because if you look at it, it'sa ton of water or that they're
not helping them on purpose,because I feel like they lost
more votes of the countrybecause they didn't send any
help, like the government justdidn't even address it.
It felt like you know well, notevery move they do is smart.

(01:34:48):
No, it's like sometimes thethings they do is the the things
they do backfire on them.

Speaker 2 (01:34:54):
I will say that yeah, I think that one's one that
backfired.

Speaker 1 (01:34:58):
Yeah, for I would say like if, if, if it's true that
they're not trying to help thembecause of because the whole,
entire, entire entire area isrepublican yeah that's like
really what happened then ofcourse that's kind of crazy then
of course it's gonna backfirebecause, like I said before,

(01:35:19):
there are a lot of liberalmoderates out there who are
going to think about stuff andbe like, yeah, that's kind of
crazy, because I don't know ifyou saw, tony Henchcliffe was at
the last Trump rally.

Speaker 3 (01:35:30):
Yeah, we know who.

Speaker 1 (01:35:31):
Tony.

Speaker 4 (01:35:32):
Henchcliffe is right.
Yeah, Kill Tony.

Speaker 1 (01:35:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:35:35):
Kill Tony Dude.
I really want to watch thatshow, but anyways, it's funny.
The Kill Tony.
I haven't seen any of it.
A lot of it's funny, especiallywhen Shane Gillis is
impersonating Trump, Like he'sso good.
I love Shane Gillis.
Yeah, it's funny, he's so funny.

Speaker 1 (01:35:49):
But Tony Henchcliffe was at the latest Trump rally
and that just blew my mindbecause he's In Grand.
Rapids.

Speaker 2 (01:35:57):
No, I'm just kidding.
I don't know where it was.
Awkward silence.
Sorry, I cut you off.

Speaker 1 (01:36:03):
Yeah, I don't know which one it was, but he was at
it and it's just crazy to mebecause he was known as a very
liberal guy.
And it's just weird the theculture shifts that, like
Republican conservatism,Christianity has been such a

(01:36:24):
counterculture.
Now, where it's starting to.
Now we're in the section whereit's starting to push back
because the seventies happened.
The feminist movement comes the.
The the drugs, everything thathappened in the seventies.
It was like Woodstock.

Speaker 2 (01:36:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:36:40):
And and prom promiscuity hard word to say,
but like people sleeping aroundall of that stuff has been like
the norm for over 50 years now.

Speaker 2 (01:36:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:36:53):
And so Christianity and all that has become
counterculture, and now we'restarting to see, I think, a a
pushback because to have allthese famous people now starting
to support republicanism iskind of weird.

Speaker 3 (01:37:08):
Yeah, well, I mean, if you look too like, granted, I
know Eminem's apparently beenanti-Trump since you know
forever, anti-trump since youknow forever, but he's.
He just came on the newsrecently at a kamala harris uh
meeting or rally or whatever andhe was talking crap about trump
and all this other crap.
And I'm just like, apparentlypeople there there are people

(01:37:30):
out there that'll sit there andbe like, well, I'm not listening
to his music anymore, butapparently he's getting a lot of
backlash from it or somethingfor him, just trash talking
trump.
It was just like when, uh,tenacious d, jack black's band
member, he's getting a lot ofbacklash from it or something
for him, just trash talkingTrump.
It was just like when TenaciousD, jack Black's band member,
he's out there and goes don'tmiss Trump next time during the
assassination attempt.
And now, like Tenacious Ddoesn't exist anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:37:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:37:50):
It's one of those things where it's just like you
realize you're being an idiot atthat point.

Speaker 1 (01:37:54):
Yeah, when I was seeing so much backlash where,
if you come out as the otherside, yeah, now it's costing you
yeah whereas before, like eightyears ago, where, if you came
off as a trump supporter.

Speaker 3 (01:38:08):
Yeah, that would cost you well, mark, yeah, you know
mark hamill too.

Speaker 1 (01:38:11):
Yeah, he's, he's a liberal yeah, well, he's a
nobody, he had he had lukeskywalker and and that was a
good role and he's joker.

Speaker 3 (01:38:20):
That's the only thing I'll give him right now, other
than star wars yeah, but he'snot known for joker like he may
have been a good joker, he isjoker yeah, no, he's the cartoon
one.

Speaker 1 (01:38:29):
Yeah, but I'm saying he's not popularly known because
unfortunately heath ledger tookthat role that's, yeah, that's
true.
And and everybody who thinks ofJoker now thinks of Heath
Ledger.
It's not Mark Hamill.

Speaker 3 (01:38:41):
Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 1 (01:38:43):
Yeah, but anyway, it's like we're now seeing the
counterculture as conservatism,and so we're now starting to see
this pushback especially withJoe Rogan is now leaning more
towards Trump.

Speaker 2 (01:38:58):
Yeah, did you see he had him on?

Speaker 3 (01:39:00):
yeah, that's crazy and then even streamers too.
There was this guy named aiden,who's on kate and ross, yeah,
he did it yeah he literally hadtrump on stream, like it was
like holy crap, like that isthat's.
I don't think a president'sbeen on like a streaming service
like that before yeah, loganpaul had him yeah, logan paul
had him aiden ross, there wassomebody else I feel like I had

(01:39:23):
him too but theovan also didhave bernie sanders yeah, but
yeah, but he's crazy dude, buthe's two for well, I think it's
good to have both, but it's

Speaker 2 (01:39:33):
two for one because he he had bernie sanders, then
he had trump and then he had jdvance yeah so it's just
interesting to see that nowwe're seeing this pushback with
the counterculture asconservatism I think some people
have really realized that, like, the democratic side is a
little bit crazy, though yeah,well, even to like the last

(01:39:56):
couple of years well, when meand my brother, john like, went
to the trump rally, that waslike right by our house.

Speaker 3 (01:40:02):
We we saw his parents by the way.
They were in line and I yeah,they did.

Speaker 4 (01:40:06):
Yeah, we, we saw.
What side are you on and thething is is like we literally
like we stood in line, we madeconversation.

Speaker 3 (01:40:13):
There wasn't any like , yeah, like f joe biden and
whatever like that kind of thing, and there wasn't any craziness
.
And there wasn't any like, yeah, like f joe biden and whatever
like that kind of thing, andthere wasn't any craziness, and
there wasn't.
I'm sorry to say it diaperwearing people, where they're
like having a diaper over theirface, like you know, because
covid still apparently existstoday, where we need to wear a
mask, mandate thing, like therewasn't any of that.
And then we didn't have anybodylike saying, yeah, you guys

(01:40:35):
suck, you support trump, he'sgot corn hair and everything
else.
Like there wasn't any of that.
It was all peaceful.
But then if you look at, likethe rally meets for, like the
biden harris foundation, theyhad to have a free concert to
get people to go and then, whenthe concert was over, they left.
I don't know if you saw that.
And then there was also twoprobably true where there was a

(01:40:58):
green, they showed this.
There was a green screen of theaudience over, like the, at the
harris rally.
At one of them there was agreen screen on the back portion
where, like it, the camerawould be facing her, essentially
where it was all backdrop withpeople, and then, like around,
that was a bunch of people, butthere was a whole section that
was just empty, and so it's like, so not a whole lot of people

(01:41:19):
showed up, so it's like, andthen you have ai.
That's an influence now too.
They found excuse me, theyfound out that uh, part of
kamala harris's, uh photos of,like her coming out of the jet
and all this other crap all aigenerated with the crowd and
everything like that, yeah, yeah, because ai has.
Ai has a problem with hands andlanguages when it comes to like
signs and stuff like that, likethey found where a guy's holding

(01:41:42):
up his phone I don't understandit either, it just does there's
a guy that I was gonna saysomething else, but he's holding
up his phone and he's got likehe's got seven fingers holding
up a phone and then there's agirl holding up a sign and it's
like looking like a weird videogame russian combination like of
like lettering and stuff.
And then you have people where,like they're facing away and

(01:42:04):
stuff, but then their glassesare like looking all funky and
it's, yeah, it's totally fake,so it's totally fake.
yeah, comma looks fine.
And then there's other eventstoo, where there's another rally
and then guess what?
It's all and again hands andsigns like that don't even you
can't like.
If you go to a Trump rally andyou see their stuff, like out in
Pennsylvania or even inMichigan, you can see pictures

(01:42:27):
of it and it's perfect, crystalclear.
You can see Trump Vance, youcan see vote for Trump and all
this other crap.
You can see people having fourfingers and a thumb.
It's like OK, they're reallytrying to make themselves look
way better.

Speaker 1 (01:42:41):
I really like that you differentiated the fact that
the thumb is not a finger.

Speaker 3 (01:42:47):
So good for you.
It's true, I hate people thatsit there and be like, oh, you
have five fingers, it's likethis is a thumb.

Speaker 1 (01:42:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:42:55):
First finger.
Call that the middle finger,ring finger and pinky finger.
You know it's now thumb fingersounds well, if it's the middle
finger yeah technically that's aspecial index finger yeah, the
index finger, pointer, finger.
Yeah, so it's, it's just one ofthose we know our yeah, our
fingers.

Speaker 1 (01:43:13):
Yeah, we know our fingers my ears hurt on this
side, pinky finger.

Speaker 3 (01:43:15):
Anyways, take them, take them up see, that's why
bathroom breaks are great,because, my ears start to hurt
on this side.

Speaker 1 (01:43:18):
Pinky finger, anyways , take them off, see.
That's why bathroom breaks aregreat, because my ears don't
hurt at all.

Speaker 2 (01:43:23):
Yeah, yeah, we got to take one, both me and you.
Oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:43:30):
Caleb's got us beat by two.

Speaker 1 (01:43:32):
You're checking your time.
Do you have to go at a certaintime?

Speaker 3 (01:43:34):
Like before nine, I would say and it's already 818.
At a certain time, like before9, I would say and it's already
8.18.
Okay, Well, I was yeah, I waslike I was just checking, I was
going to say something else withthe politics, because I have to
work tomorrow and I get up at5.30.

Speaker 1 (01:43:46):
Yeah, well, we'll make sure you're out of here by
before 9.

Speaker 3 (01:43:49):
Well, I mean, I mean like I'm talking like leaving at
8.
Okay, yeah, 10 more minutes uh,yeah, about just about like 12,
if you want to be exact well,we've got to plan these earlier
because, like I'm, not evenclose to being done yeah, I mean
like I'm down to do it again,it's just, yeah, it has to be
earlier for me at least, like ifit's a monday, like what time

(01:44:10):
do you get out of work usually,like on mondays, like I can get
out at any time.

Speaker 1 (01:44:14):
You can, yeah, if you .

Speaker 3 (01:44:16):
If you want to do it at like, I can do it at four
o'clock would be like fantastic,cause that's when my brother's
kids get home, and then it'slike they're already at home so
they can watch the kids, andthen we can just keep going.

Speaker 1 (01:44:27):
Yeah, cause there's so much more we can talk about.
But I didn't know you had real.
I didn't realize you had toleave.

Speaker 3 (01:44:33):
So early sleep pattern because I've been
arriving to work like 20 minuteslate, even though elizabeth
don't care, it's just, she justis like yeah, you know, you're
like you're supposed to callwait, so you have a girlfriend.
No, that's my boss, oh wow yeah, I was like no she, um, yeah,
she just is like she don't carebecause she also has the same
issue that we weren't takingnames dude.

Speaker 2 (01:44:54):
Well, you know well that's.

Speaker 3 (01:44:56):
Yeah, it's done, yeah , it's different yeah, so it's
just, I'd rather try to get on abetter sleep schedule where I'm
going to bed early and that'swhere I'm like, all right, it's
about 8 30 and I'm going to tryto go to bed around 9 9 30.
So I'd rather get home so I canhave time to get you know.
Simply, right to a degree, yeah, right, so, but yeah, well at
that point, what were you gonnasay?

Speaker 2 (01:45:16):
the only other thing I was going to say is well,
might go for maybe anothercouple minutes, because but with
you were talking about Harrisontaking the election even though
there's nobody You're sayingnobody's coming, actually coming
, right?
Yeah, I was listening to apodcast and they were talking

(01:45:38):
about like buying, uh, like youknow pretty much buying the
election like I mean google andadvertising and all that money
can that get you power?

Speaker 1 (01:45:50):
you mean because, it would like for more like output
yeah, it's just the.

Speaker 2 (01:45:55):
The democrats seem like they have more of the news
outlet right now.

Speaker 1 (01:46:01):
Yeah, well, I mean the billboards around Michigan.
Of course they have more money.

Speaker 2 (01:46:05):
Yeah, exactly Kind of like what you were saying.

Speaker 1 (01:46:07):
I'm not talking about picket signs either.

Speaker 2 (01:46:09):
Like picket signs are individual, I'm talking about
like billboard signs that sayyeah, yeah, I know, Like on the
highway, yeah yeah, yeah, buteven through Google, just like
pushing that narrative and andjust all that, it's like it
makes the race a lot closer whenit's like you have all of that
power there and likehistorically the Democrats have

(01:46:30):
had more money in general, thatput they put towards.

Speaker 3 (01:46:34):
It's like it's actually surprising that any
republican has won because ofhow much money they have more
well, if you really look at thenumbers, trump could probably
pour in his own money at that.

Speaker 2 (01:46:46):
Yeah, but it's still not the same compared to how
many people are like donating.
No, like it's millions, likeit's more than what trump has.
Yeah, I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:46:54):
Imagine if a million in the and democrats have at
least a million people donating.
Imagine if even one persondonates one dollar.
That's a million dollars.

Speaker 3 (01:47:04):
That's true.

Speaker 1 (01:47:05):
And they're donating a lot more than just a million.
Yeah, so they're making it.

Speaker 2 (01:47:08):
Yeah, it's rich people that are like, well, I
can get a favor if I get thisperson in, yeah, and I guess
that kind of brings up like thebig pack mentality, mentality
which nobody wants and nobodylikes.

Speaker 1 (01:47:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:47:22):
But that was only the last point.
I don't know if you want toclose out with that, I guess
yeah we'll just close out withthat so everybody.

Speaker 1 (01:47:30):
Thank you so much for listening.
Have a blessed week.
Bye, I love you, bye, bye.

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