March 11, 2025 • 40 mins
In this captivating episode, we journey into the often chaotic yet rewarding world of motherhood. Join us as we explore time management through the lens of experienced mothers who have effectively balanced family responsibilities with their personal aspirations. This discussion unravels the complexities of juggling multiple roles while providing insightful tips that can be applied to everyday life.
Our conversation emphasizes the importance of a supportive network, especially when you're feeling short on time and energy. We delve into personal anecdotes that resonate, showcasing how vulnerability and storytelling can create authentic connections among mothers.
Listeners will walk away with actionable strategies to help navigate their daily routines by prioritizing essential tasks and finding creative ways to uncover pockets of time throughout the day. This episode is designed for mothers who want to reclaim their narrative, focusing on growth and fulfillment rather than merely surviving the daily grind.
So grab your headphones, get comfortable, and prepare to embark on a transformative journey. Don't forget to connect with us after the episode! Share your thoughts and insights, and let’s build this resilient community together.
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Megan (00:00):
Everyone's limit on time, and one thing that a lot of
people say is that we all havethe same 24 hours in the day.
But yes, we might all have 24hours, but everyone's
circumstances are so different,so it's how we use those 24
hours that's really setting youapart.
Here, and when you do havelimited time and maybe you can
only squeeze things into certainpockets of time, is really just
(00:21):
defining one must-do task thatyou have to accomplish every day
, no matter what.
Camille (00:34):
So you want to make an impact.
You're thinking about startinga business, sharing your voice.
How do women do it that handlemotherhood, family and still
chase after those dreams?
We'll listen each week as wedive into the stories of women
who know.
This is Call Me CEO.
Welcome back everyone to CallMe CEO.
(00:55):
This is your host, CamilleWalker.
It is so good to be with youtoday, especially as we are
talking about what to do whenyou are short on time and energy
.
And I can tell you, afterhaving last night I am sick and
my daughter was having an eighthgrade moment and we were up
late talking about grades andfriends and the drama and why do
(01:18):
we have to go to school and whydoes it start so early.
And, trust me, I tell her Idon't want to go through junior
high again, but we do, we do.
We go through junior high andall the grades again with our
kids.
So I am really looking forwardto today's discussion because
I'm feeling a little short onenergy and time.
Today we have Megan Tobler, whois the owner and the podcast
(01:40):
host of Self Start Her, which isan online community as well as
a podcast, sharing very similarstories motherhood and business.
So we know immediately that wealign and I'm so excited to have
this conversation today.
So, Megan, thank you for beingon the show today.
Megan (01:56):
Thank you so much for having me.
Camille, I have to sayeverything that you just talked
about.
I relate, but on a differentlevel.
I have a little one of my ownwho's now 16 months, so I'm not
quite yet in that middle schoolyears, but I'm looking forward
to them.
But I understand what you'retalking about with the no sleep
and not wanting to relive someof those days of the middle
school days.
Camille (02:16):
Yeah, it's for sure.
It's so funny because at everystage of parenting you're like
I'm going to get that sleep, I'mgoing to get that sleep, but
one way or another you have toprotect it as much as you can
and make up for it when you can,because whether it's a baby or
a teenager, they have needs atnight and it's just it changes.
So yeah, tell us a little bitmore about you, where you live,
(02:38):
your family and what yourmission is with what you do.
Megan (02:43):
Well, like I mentioned, I'm a mom first and that has
been the best title that I haveever had, and I've had a lot,
let's just put it that way.
I'm based in California, inSouthern California, and I've
been born and raised here myentire life, outside of studying
abroad for about four monthsduring my college days.
But as far as what I do youmentioned it I am the podcast
(03:05):
host of Self Starter and alsoabout to launch my upcoming
community called Together, whereI'm really focusing on the
current stage of life that I'min, where it's focused on moms
building businesses while alsojuggling all that life has at
home.
So that's really where I'mfocused on today and my whole
story has really led me to thismoment.
(03:25):
I will say it hasn't been aneasy path, but it's been a very
rewarding one and one that I amjust really excited to share
today.
Camille (03:34):
Very cool.
So with being a new mom andleaving corporate, I mean you've
made some pretty big jumps andchanges in the last few years.
What was it that led you tothis path of focusing on
motherhood and helping to buildcommunity of mothers?
Tell us a little bit about thatcorporate background.
I mean it sounds like you'vedone a lot.
Megan (03:55):
I'm going to say brace yourself, because we're here for
a little bit then.
So I actually spent over adecade in corporate sales.
I was climbing the corporateladder, I was getting promotions
and I was really making a namefor myself and also making a
really, really good income.
But that also came at a price.
I was on the road for up tothree hours each way to and from
(04:16):
work every single day,commuting to and from my job.
Camille (04:19):
And yes, that sounds awful, three hours each way.
Megan (04:28):
Yes, that sounds awful, three hours each way.
I'm in LA or I was in LA, sosometimes the traffic, I call it
the four or five parking lotnot the four or five freeway,
for a reason.
Camille (04:34):
So it definitely so what time were you leave?
Okay, so I'm Utah, so we havemy husband commutes I don't know
25 minutes, 45 on a really badday, like if we have snow or
something.
So what time are you leavingfor work?
Megan (04:51):
Sometimes I would leave at 5 o'clock in the morning in
order to be there between 7 and8, depending on traffic, and
then I would try to leave around5 o'clock and then sometimes it
would take me until 8 o'clockto get home.
So it really just depended onthe circumstances of the day,
(05:11):
and there were things that areout of my control.
But what was in my control wasmy mindset, and I will say, the
first day that I sat in the carfor that length of time, I got
home and I started crying.
I was thinking is this, is thismy life?
It can't be.
So I had to really work onreframing my mindset, and so
what I did was I actually juststarted immersing myself in the
podcast and being able tosurround myself with
(05:34):
conversations that felt like Iwas just having a chat with my
best friend, but also I waslearning a lot in the process.
So I was really leaning intoJenna Kutcher and Amy
Porterfield and Marie Forleo allthe big ones that I just admire
so much and filling my brain,honestly, with all that
information.
So I started to think aboutokay, I know one day I want a
(05:58):
family, but with this currentstate of being on the road 24
seven, what it felt like atleast also never being able to
really take a break, because Iwas a quota-based career.
At that point, the majority ofmy money was based off of how
much I sold, so I wasn't able toactually take a real vacation.
I was able to go, but I wasconstantly on my computer making
(06:21):
sure that if deals were comingthrough, that I was taking care
of it to be able to make sure Iwas hitting my quotas.
So I really was starting tolook at okay, I know I want a
family, how can I make thispossible?
And I really had no idea how toanswer that question.
So what I did is in 2022, Istarted to really get frustrated
and I wanted to take that firststep into figuring out how to
(06:45):
make a new life for myselfpossible.
And so what I did is I startedto take a look at what are my
skills currently?
Okay, I love to talk to people,I love to hear their stories
and I love to help.
So I figured okay, why notcombine all of these areas of
expertise and start byinterviewing women that have
come before me, like the JennaKutcher's of the world?
(07:06):
But clearly I couldn't get toJenna Kutcher right away, so I
started with the people that Iknew and I started interviewing
them, recording it, talkingabout their stories, where they
came from, why they decided toleave corporate and, ultimately,
how their business has grownand their life has changed as a
result from that.
And what I had here was just inmy mind pure magic, because I
(07:28):
was so inspired every single day.
So I took all of thatinformation that I was able to
accumulate and I started sharingit with the world through this
podcast.
And multiple months had passedand I was just loving what I was
doing.
Come January of that followingyear, I decided to hire a
business coach and I told mybusiness coach I was doing.
Come January of that followingyear, I decided to hire a
business coach and I told mybusiness coach that I wanted to
be out of corporate by the nextquarter.
(07:50):
So as soon as I heard thisbusiness coach, as soon as I had
this conversation, I then foundout I was pregnant and I
backtracked.
I said okay, I'm not, I'm notready, I'm not ready.
I have to collect my maternityleave.
I am not ready to make that bigof a pivot.
But be careful what you ask for, because sometimes you might
just get that exact thing, justpackaged a little bit
(08:12):
differently.
And right after announcing mypregnancy to my company, I was
actually laid off with my entiresales department.
So, yeah, that's exactly how Ifelt was whoa, what do I do now?
So I went into panic mode and Ihad 40 interviews within two
weeks trying to get another job.
(08:34):
And I will say that afterconversation, after conversation
, I just knew that I wasn'tmeant to go back to corporate.
This was coming into my pathfor a reason and I needed to
listen to it.
So it was that moment where Irealized, okay, this is my
opportunity.
If not now, then when?
And I went all in on my podcastand my journey has just
(08:54):
unfolded from there.
Camille (08:56):
Oh, that's awesome.
I feel like that's so relatable, and it's funny that you say be
careful what you wish for,because you might just get it
right.
I feel like this.
I had a very similar situationhappen, but for me I was in the
mortgage business and it was themortgage crash of 2008.
And I was at a place where I'mlike I can't do this anymore.
I was in a toxic workenvironment and I said, if I'm
(09:17):
pregnant, I will stick around.
If I'm pregnant, I will getthrough, because the benefits
were so good.
Literally, my baby was $20.
And I did.
I stuck it out for that babyand then the company closed and
I got a severance for eightmonths.
It was like the most bizarreunveiling of like that path
being laid before me andthinking, oh well, this is what
(09:41):
I was ready for.
I wanted to be a mom.
Well, this is what I was readyfor.
I wanted to be a mom.
And I thought, gosh, if Ifollow this.
I remember being like I'm goingto quit if I'm not pregnant.
And I got a call that day andthey said you're pregnant and I
stuck it out, but then it justlaid out before me that it was
this moment of transitioninginto this new season, which is
(10:01):
so beautiful.
I love that that happened foryou too, because sometimes I
think we get that goldenhandcuff of like I'm here and
this is working.
This is what I know.
So that unknown of going intomotherhood and a different
season is so it can be so scary.
So what was it for you thathelped you get through that
(10:23):
instability or that unknown, toreally feel comfortable, to take
that leap?
Megan (10:28):
I think it was the pain of going back to what I was
doing before.
I think that was greater thanthe unknown at that point and I
will preface this that saying myhusband and I had a
conversation prior to decidingto not go back to corporate and
to go all in on my business,because I recognize that not
everyone has the financial meansto be able to really go in, all
(10:52):
out, having the fight withouthaving something already Exactly
, and so I have to recognize himand also make sure that that's
known, that we did have thatsafety net that I was able to
lean on as I went all in on thisbusiness.
So kind of a little asteriskthere for you.
Camille (11:09):
Yeah, no, that's a privilege to have, for sure,
because there are many singleparents or people who are the
breadwinners that that's not anoption and you have to weigh
through and figure out what thatseason looks like.
Yeah.
Megan (11:21):
And especially when you have a new baby, like you need
that safety net.
It is a season of a lot ofunknowns and to not have the
financial means during that timewhen you're bringing in a new
baby can be quite terrifying.
So I completely agree with you.
Camille (11:36):
Yes, oh, my gosh.
Well, I'm curious for the tipswith short on money and time and
energy.
Money, time and energy, all thethings when you're feeling
short what are those things thathave helped you to be able to
make space to get the thingsdone that you need to get done?
Megan (11:55):
Yeah.
So just to preface this again,I have built my entire podcast
and business either while I waspregnant or as a new mom and, as
you, you've had four childrenof your own, so you know that
it's exhausting sometimes.
Not even just one kid, letalone four.
I know I'm not quite there yet,but it's been a learning curve
(12:18):
and what I really had toprioritize is how I feel in
these different seasons.
So what I really started totake a step back and do is when
I was starting this business.
I really wanted to make surethat when I knew I was going to
have to build something duringnap time.
So I needed to make sure that Iwas really evaluating what type
of business that I was creating.
(12:39):
And if you don't have abusiness like this is something
that you can really apply intoany area of your life, because
you just need to prioritizewhat's important to you.
So for me, building a businesswas a top priority at this time.
So I was really thinking okay,am I building a business that
fits into my life, or am Icreating a business that fits
(12:59):
into the life that I wanted?
And at that time I reallywanted to be able to be present
for all of my son's life moments.
I wanted to be able to makesure that I could be able to
make money but also like nursehim if he needed to be nursed,
or take him to his doctor'sappointments without having to
request time off of work.
So one of the ways that I wentabout this is when I, when I
(13:23):
hired a coach myself, I wasactually thinking about hired a
coach myself.
I was actually thinking aboutbecoming a coach myself.
As soon as I found out that Iwas pregnant, I knew again that
my time was going to be limitedand immediately I said I no
longer want to be a coach and Ilove coaching.
I think it's such a great andneeded profession out there, but
(13:43):
when I'm having my new boss asthis infant who really dictates
the time of the day, it didn'tmake sense because I then would
have needed to invest inchildcare and that's really what
I was avoiding at this time.
So I think when you are takinga look at your business and just
your life's priorities ingeneral, really think about okay
, what is the life that I wouldlike and design that business
(14:07):
around that.
So that's tip number one.
Camille (14:10):
I love that and I think that a key point is how you
want that to feel, becauseeveryone's priorities of how
they want it to feel and looklike and that life they're
wanting to create is a differentdefinition depending on the
season and the time and what itis that you have to give and
your bandwidth, Because, likeyou said, for years when I was
(14:30):
doing my business from home withall my little babies and
pregnant, I never had a nanny.
I always did it in the pocketsof time that I had and for a lot
of people, especially that Italked to on this podcast,
they're like how in the world?
But if you find pockets of timeand you get creative about it,
you can make it happen.
But you also want to keep inmind how you want it to feel,
(14:53):
and a lot of times that meanstaking a slower pace and being
okay with that slower pace andknowing that even those small
steps create the progress towhat you are creating long term.
So I love that.
Megan (15:07):
And you mentioned the word season and I really want to
just emphasize that, becausethat has been really what I have
been holding on to when timesdo get tough, because life is
just a series of seasons and weare all in different stages and
different seasons of life andit's important to be able to
understand that.
Okay, yes, it might be toughnow, but this is just a season.
(15:28):
I maybe only have an hour a dayto be able to focus on my
business or whatever task is athand, but this, too, shall get
easier as time goes on and on,because it's just for a short
amount of time and I just reallywanted to be able to soak in
all of the time that I did have,knowing that it was limited.
Camille (15:45):
It goes so fast.
It goes so fast.
I don't regret for a minute thechoices that I made to be at
home with my kids.
It really is such a magical,beautiful time.
And then they become teenagers.
No, I'm just kidding.
I love my teenagers.
They're so great, but it reallydoes.
I think the season of life I'min now, looking back, I can
pinpoint those moments and seethose mamas with their babies
(16:07):
and just it flies.
It just flies by.
You always hear that it soundslike such a like a trote what is
it A rote thing to say?
Like it's can be trite or itcan seem really simple, but you,
just you live it.
And then you look back andyou're like, oh my gosh, that
was a blink.
So, yeah, soak in as much asyou can.
And then I have friends, too,who they're like babyhood,
(16:30):
infant time.
That is not where I have themost fulfillment as a mother.
I need a nanny, I need thatsupport, I need to be able to
get out and talk to adults.
I needed a part-time job.
I needed to work full-time tobe a better mom for me, and
that's totally cool too.
I think that each of us has adifferent definition of what
embracing that season looks like, and that is totally okay.
Megan (16:53):
Totally, and I think that's why I have really enjoyed
the podcast is because I alsoneeded that connection and that
sense of relatability thatallowed me to be able to meet
people like you.
Honestly, that just keeps yougoing and fired up for the days
where you literally feel likeyou're just going to crash
because you are functioning onno sleep.
Yeah, no matter if you're aninfant or a middle school age
(17:19):
child, as you started with here.
Yeah, but I will say that thesecond tip here is everyone's
limit on time, and one thingthat a lot of people say is that
we all have the same 24 hoursin the day.
But yes, we might all have 24hours, but everyone's
circumstances are so different.
So it's how we use those 24hours that's really setting you
(17:42):
apart here.
And when you do have limitedtime and maybe you can only
squeeze things into certainpockets of time, is really just
defining one must-do task thatyou have to accomplish every day
, no matter what.
And I say that because if youlook at the entire picture of
your entire to-do list, it'soverwhelming.
We have just a never-endingto-do list as women here, and if
(18:06):
you look at everything, you'renot going to get anything done.
So just start with one must dotask, because if you can just
accomplish that check that offof your list for the day, you
will feel a win and and be ableto propel yourself forward
knowing that you were able toaccomplish what you wanted to do
.
So for for me, as from abusiness perspective, I really
wanted to.
I was prioritizing the podcast.
(18:27):
So at that time, even even if Ionly had 15 minutes during his
wake windows to be able to getsomething done, I just would set
different tasks for specificdays.
Like maybe I do the show noteson this day, maybe I prospect
and invite guests on for for myTuesdays, maybe I um, I do on my
inner my interview prep on myWednesdays, and the list goes so
(18:49):
on and so forth.
So that way I'm not really downon myself when I'm not able to
accomplish everything all atonce because his nap windows
were just too short, becausebelieve me, especially in
(19:20):
infancy, those were basicallynon-existent windows, especially
in infancy.
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I agree with that.
It is so true that and one Ilove theming my days where I
have a specific focus for eachday, and it doesn't mean that
(20:04):
it's a perfect execution ofeverything that needs to get
done, but you have an idea ofwhat it is that you're doing and
then, of course, feeling thatsense of accomplishment.
And there are days that gettingup and taking care of the baby
and taking a shower and gettingout for a walk is like the thing
, like that's what you're doing.
Then, if you get that done,like that is, a win like the
thing, like that's what you'redoing, then if you get that done
like that is a win.
(20:26):
So I agree with that.
It's really being gentle withyourself, giving yourself that
grace, because that confidenceis built on consecutive growth,
where if you make a commitmentto yourself and you keep that
commitment, that's where youbuild trust with yourself and
that's where you buildconfidence to keep going.
I know that when I started mypodcast or, sorry, my blog, I
(20:52):
had two little ones at home.
They were, I don't know, threeand eight months or something
like that and I was doing blogposts about recipes and sewing a
matching bow tie and hair bow,like it was so random but it was
so fun for me, and so I thinkreally looking for an element of
fun in that to do so that youfeel that rejuvenation to keep
(21:13):
yourself going, is reallyimportant as well.
Megan (21:16):
I couldn't agree more.
I think that for me, it wasgetting outside and taking a
walk that made me feel alive andgetting the vitamin D it's so
needed because, especially as anew mom, you find that you're
very isolated and sometimes it'seasier just to stay home, just
because the routine of eat,sleep, change the diapers and
(21:36):
repeat is never ending.
So just being able to sneak outand just focus on something for
yourself, that was a gamechanger for me.
It was even just going forthose walks and even being able
to put in a little podcast orcatch a phone call.
It just made you feel a littlebit more human.
Camille (21:53):
Yes, I call them walk and talks.
I'll do those either.
Sometimes I'll do like a bookor a podcast or something when
I'm walking.
But my best and most favoritethings I did as a especially a
young, like baby toddler mom wasI had a friend I went on walks
with very regularly and we wouldwalk for a long time and it was
(22:16):
like the bread to my life, likeit was so good to get out and
it was so good for the kids andwe connected and bonded so much
during that time because we werein that same phase.
So if you can find someonethat's in that same phase with
you and you have a general ideaof when you go out and do these
walks, it just is life, even inthe winter, even in the cold.
(22:37):
You're in California, so youdon't have to worry about that
as much, but we would go out ondays that it was rainy and cold
or icy and just dressappropriately, get those kids
dressed, because it really is.
It's like opening up thatuniverse and I have always said
that walking and talking is thewashing machine of your mind and
your brain and it gives youthat deep breath of like okay,
(22:59):
we got this and it's fun to likego, especially if you're going
to find a friend, and sosometimes I'll do that on a
phone call.
When I had my little babies, Idid have someone that I would go
on walks with, which, by theway, she moved to Idaho and
we're both driving like an hourand a half tomorrow to see each
other to go, have like a walktogether and a lunch, because
(23:19):
we're at a season in our lifenow where our kids are in school
but I haven't seen her in along time.
So we're going to drive and seeeach other tomorrow and go for
a walk and we still feel soconnected because we went on
those long walk and talkstogether.
We felt so connected with eachother because you help each
other through.
So find a friend and be willingto open up and just chat, even
(23:41):
if it feels scary, because it isso worth it to find that
community.
Megan (23:45):
I again, I couldn't agree more with that.
That's kind of actually leadsinto my tip.
Number three is to be able tofind that support system and, to
your point, to be able to findsomeone that's kind of going
through the same, like they'rein the trenches with you.
And even if there's not someonein your life that's going
through it.
We have access to this thingcalled the internet that
generations before us didn'thave, and I think that in some
(24:08):
ways it's sometimes a detrimentto us because, like, we have
access 24 seven, but in otherways it's just this beautiful
thing because it's allowed us toconnect with so many people
that we otherwise wouldn't havemet.
And, like today's conversation,I probably wouldn't have met
you if it wasn't for theinternet and it's being able to,
um, find these people that arekind of going through the same
(24:31):
things in life that you are, andyou can find a support group
pretty much for for anything outthere or a podcast.
So if you're not, if you're notreally wanting to go and chat
with a friend for some, for somereason that day, just pop on a
podcast, watch a YouTube video,maybe even scroll the gram
sometimes, because sometimesyou're feeling a little bit
(24:52):
connected that way.
It's just being able to feellike, okay, I'm not alone.
Today I need this little doseof inspiration and these people
get it.
And I would say that Iaccidentally found my community,
because I started my podcast asmore of like a peak of
curiosity and it justorganically molded into this
(25:14):
wonderful community.
And I have to say, sometimes ifyou just put yourself out there
, the community will justnaturally be drawn to you and
who knows what can happen as aresult of that.
You just looking for someone tohave a chat with.
Camille (25:28):
Yeah, yeah, and I think a big key in this and it's
interesting because the conceptstays the same whether you are a
new mom, whether you are aretiree and the kids have moved
out of the house, or whetheryou're in junior high there is
an element of risk of puttingyourself out there and finding
friends and being the inviter orthe creator of the content, and
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it is vulnerable.
It is vulnerable to show up totell your stories, to put your
face on in the internet neverknowing Believe me, I've had
years of troll content that mineis pretty mild because I keep
myself pretty.
Years of troll content thatmine is pretty mild because I
keep myself pretty.
I'm not a controversial persononline by any means, but it is
so vulnerable and it isvulnerable to ask a friend for a
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number, just like it is whenyou were in junior high, like
there really is a piece ofconfidence and willingness to be
vulnerable, to be open to thatcommunity.
So I'm proud of you for doingthat, because it is not easy to
create it and to invite, but itis so worth it.
Megan (26:33):
It is worth it.
And I think you had mentionedbeing able to ask that person
for a number.
I was actually.
I took my son to the librarythe other day for story time and
I met this wonderful other momwho is this accomplished doctor,
and she just she and I very,very much clicked and I was just
beating myself up after becauseI didn't ask her for her number
and it it's one of those thingslike if you have the urge to to
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connect with someone, just putyourself out there.
The worst thing that can happenis they say no.
But my unique and suspicion isthat they won't, because if
you're feeling a connection,then they likely did too.
And even though, yes, I putmyself out there, started a
podcast, faced rejection, itdoesn't mean that I'm imperfect
by any means, because I stillhave moments where I'm kind of
(27:19):
just kicking myself for notmoving forward with that little
gut feeling that I had.
So hopefully I run into heragain, but if not, then there's
all of you wonderful people tobe able to.
Camille (27:31):
Yeah and show up again.
That's the thing is that youfind people one of the best
pieces of advice and it'sinteresting because the top two
questions I've gotten for thepast 12 years online have been
how do I make money from homeand how do I make friends and
legit like we are lonely.
We need connection and we alsowant to feel value and purpose
and be able to provide for ourfamilies, and so that is why
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I've created the content and thecommunities that I have,
because those are literally thetop two questions I've been
given.
So a good piece of advice hereis go to the places where you
have the interest with the samepeople that are around you,
meaning the book club that youdid, or an example of something
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that my son did recently that Iwas really proud of him for is.
He got into Magic, the Card Game, which we call Nerd Camp,
because he goes on Tuesdaynights legit, he's 16 years old
and none of his friends are intoit and he's like I really like
this and I'm kind of interestedand I don't know.
My husband had some old cardsthat he had found from when he
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was a teenager and he said Ithink I'm going to go check this
out, and he did.
He went to this card shop andnow he has this whole community
of people that he goes and hangsout with every Tuesday night
and a lot of them are like 30something year old men and it is
hilarious.
Some of them are teenagers buta lot of them are not.
And so he comes home onTuesdays and we say, how was
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nerd camp?
And he's like it was great,look at this card I got, or like
whatever.
And even sometimes he'll driveto another neighboring city and
kind of venturing out to meetmore people that way and I'm so
proud of him because that is soscary, especially as a teenager
and knowing it's not like theair quote cool thing.
But who cares?
Like if you have interest in?
I did a belly dancing classwhen I had a baby and I was like
(29:20):
I do not feel cute or sexy orwhatever, but belly dancing,
like that'd be fun.
I didn't know anyone and Iended up making a really good
friend from doing that and it'sjust, you just need to put
yourself out there.
So go to the communities or theplaces where you have natural
interest and chances are you'regoing to attract someone who is
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similar to you.
I always tell my kids that likeattracts, like meaning, the
kind of person you are, theenergy you have, the interest
that you are interested in, willbring people towards you if you
have that ability to openyourself and be brave enough to
go seek after them.
Megan (29:58):
I agree, I completely agree.
It was.
You're talking about going tothe places where you just
naturally are interested in, andI think that those other people
are obviously naturallyinterested in those things as
well.
So and also, so it's going to,like you said, like attracts,
like.
But also think about if you'reafraid to put yourself out there
(30:19):
.
You're not the only one that'safraid, because every, every
single person almost in thisworld it has that fear of
putting themselves out there.
So if you're feeling thatlikely they are to just be the
be the person, reach out yourhand, shake, shake their hand
and introduce yourself, becauseI guarantee you they're wanting
to do that too.
They just are afraid to do it.
(30:40):
So if you put yourself outthere, that shows that you're
confident, that you're ready tobe able to kind of get to know
this person, and that you're,you're interested and
immediately a conversation issparked.
Camille (30:50):
Yeah, I love that and that is such good advice.
Yeah, I love that and that issuch good advice.
It really no one is alone infeeling that way of self-doubt
or to think, oh, but what ifthey don't like me?
Or oh, what am I wearing?
Or what am I going to say?
Love the messy if you'reconfident and willing to just
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show up as imperfect and who youare, because then that gives
them the permission to bethemselves in their imperfect
self and state.
So think about the people thatyou really love and cherish
being around.
It's not the perfectly polishedthey always say the right thing
and look perfect.
No, it's the person who is ableto laugh at themselves and will
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make open opportunities forpeople to feel comfortable in
their space.
And I just think that there isso much to be remembered in that
, because it's easy to forgetwhen we're putting ourselves out
in that way.
Megan (31:48):
People love authenticity and everything that I've seen
online.
The big word for 2025 isauthenticity.
So like, scratch perfection,just do it messy, put yourself
out there, because it isrelatable.
Everyone wants to understandthat I'm not alone here.
Oh wait, she's rocking the fiveday old like non-washed hair
(32:10):
too, with just a bunch of dryshampoo.
I am too so.
She doesn't have a perfect puttogether outfit.
Neither do I.
My kids have these gorgeous,well-crafted outfits, but my bra
is five years old.
Things like that.
It's real and people want realtoday, so couldn't agree more.
(32:30):
I will say that actually, Iknow it's a little bit of a
band-aid, but being able to meetpeople in person with my son
has actually been really helpfulbecause it's a natural
conversation starter.
You're going through a similarthing in life that they are.
So even if you don't have alittle toddler running around
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like we were talking aboutbefore, going to these places
where there is that commoninterest, that common like
that's just a naturalconversation starter for you
there.
Camille (32:59):
Yeah, I've always said if everyone could walk around
with a puppy or a baby, we wouldhave a much more connected
world, because they naturallybring questions like oh, they're
so cute, how old are they?
Can I pet them?
Can I say hi to whatever?
Megan (33:15):
Not petting the kid, petting the dog.
Sometimes people try to petyour kid.
Camille (33:17):
Yeah, I've had that many times.
Or your belly and you're likethat's weird.
But yeah, I totally agree withthat.
That has been so true and suchthe case with getting yourself
out there and having theopportunity to connect with
people, so this conversation hasbeen so good.
Do you have any other tips thathave been on your heart that
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you would like to share?
Megan (33:41):
I would just say for.
For anyone that is out thereand thinking about can I have
more?
The question or the answer isabsolutely.
You just have to identifyexactly what is that more that
you're looking for and take thatfirst step, because, I will say
, the first step is the absolutehardest because the fear is in
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the way.
So if we can take that firststep, push the fear aside and
overcome it, then each step getseasier and easier and I will
say that fear keeps creeping upat every single stage because
it's natural.
It means that you're pushingyourself and you're expanding.
So fear is natural.
So know that it's 100% going tobe there, but it's really if
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you just keep taking those steps.
That's going to be thedifference from if you're going
to achieve that more or not.
Camille (34:32):
Yeah, yeah, I love that .
If you're going to achieve thatmore or not, yeah, yeah, I love
that.
So two questions that I askevery guest that come on the
show is one what are you reading, watching or listening to?
You can share one of each orjust one of the three.
And then the second is amotherhood moment that you'd
want to share, whether it befunny, loving, touching,
(34:53):
memorable, whatever funny,loving, touching, memorable,
whatever.
Megan (34:59):
So I'm actually about to launch my own community with
guest speakers, so I'm actuallyreading one of the books from
one of the mastermind ormasterclass speakers.
It's called the blood book andit's really about um syncing
your cycle to your task list, sobasically, as you're running
your business, being able to dothings at different optimal
times based on your energylevels.
So I found that veryfascinating and, honestly, my
(35:24):
book list is piled like a milehigh on my nightstand because at
the end of the day, I will tellyou, I can only get through a
couple of pages before I'm out.
A day with a toddler is no jokesometimes.
And then funny moments.
I will tell you, every day is afunny moment in itself, but I
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will say that one of the bigthings about motherhood is they
don't tell you the amount ofmess that would happen when they
eat.
So I am constantly making my, myson, this food and he'll he'll
grab it out and then he'll justdump it on the floor and then I
think he enjoys watching me pickit up and if it wasn't for my
dog, I would probably just leaveit there.
(36:09):
But I have the world's mostsensitive dog that um, would end
up in a probably a $10,000 vetbill if she ate this.
So it's this game that my sonand I now have, where I put the
food there and he thinks it'stime to put it on the floor.
So we just make light of it.
(36:31):
We have the best time eating ornot eating, together, whatever
he decides to do for the day,and just enjoying all of life's
moments, because it's really, Ithink, like the littlest moments
for me that are the mostintimate and enjoyable and
memorable for me Funny, funny ornot, sometimes just just sweet.
Camille (36:54):
Oh, that is so fun, that is so true.
I actually look back at thosepictures of the messy, like the
yogurt or the spaghetti, andthere's some of my favorite
pictures to look at, which Iknow you're in the middle of it.
So you're like, oh, that's likeevery day and every meal is
like a bath after becausethey're just like smeared in
their hair or whatever.
But, yeah, I, it's, I'm able to, and even from like child one
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to child four.
Looking at that and being likechild one, I'd be like, oh, you
know, I just was way morefrustrated by child four.
I'm like it'll clean off, it'sfine, just put a garbage bag on
the floor, which is actually areally good tip.
You just put a garbage bag flaton the floor so that if they,
if they do get really messy orwhatever, it doesn't get all
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over your floor.
But it's just like on thegarbage bag laying flat.
Megan (37:43):
I did that last night and that was a game changer.
But yeah, so highly highlysuggest that.
Tip right there because it willsave your carpet.
If I have a rug underneath mytable and it's cream and it's
completely ruined, so I'velearned now to put a trash bag
underneath it and it's a mucheasier cleanup and takes a lot
of the stress out of it.
My husband can't sit there forthe meal times because it
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stresses him out.
His OCD is just on the nextlevel.
So I just I embrace it and wehave a good time.
We put on some music and makethe most of our messy meal
together.
Camille (38:16):
Messy middle.
Oh, I love that.
Well, this has been so much fun.
I really appreciate those tipsthat you've shared today,
bringing back some of thosememories for me of the babies.
And it is a time like you arein it, and it is a challenging
time, so I commend you for everylittle bit of effort you're
making in building yourcommunity.
Please tell our audience alittle bit more about your
(38:36):
podcast and where they can findyou.
Megan (38:42):
Well, and I have to first say that people like you are an
inspiration, because you'vedone this with raising four
children and having a successfulshow as well as a successful
business.
So it is possible to do both,but it's not always easy, and I
think that's what I reallywanted to share today is that
you can have it all, butsometimes it's going to take,
maybe a little bit longer thanyou had hoped for, but it's
worth it 100% when you're ableto accomplish what you want from
(39:05):
a career standpoint as well asa family life as well.
But if you wanna follow me, I'mover on Instagram, so
selfstarther the self-starterpodcast on all podcasting
platforms, and if you want tolearn more about the upcoming
community for women buildingbusinesses while juggling life
at home, it's justselfstartercom.
Slash together.
Camille (39:25):
Awesome.
Well, thank you for thatcompliment.
I really appreciate that, andif you are listening to this and
thinking you want to startsomething or grow your business,
or you're in the weeds andtrying to figure it out, I offer
coaching and I also have amastermind where entrepreneurs
who are looking for support havethat community as well, so I
would love to help you reach outto me at camillewalkerco on
(39:47):
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Everyone's limit on time, and one thing that a lot of
people say is that we all havethe same 24 hours in the day.
But yes, we might all have 24hours, but everyone's
circumstances are so different,so it's how we use those 24
hours that's really setting youapart.
Here, and when you do havelimited time and maybe you can
only squeeze things into certainpockets of time, is really just
(00:21):
defining one must-do task thatyou have to accomplish every day
, no matter what.
Camille (00:34):
So you want to make an impact.
You're thinking about startinga business, sharing your voice.
How do women do it that handlemotherhood, family and still
chase after those dreams?
We'll listen each week as wedive into the stories of women
who know.
This is Call Me CEO.
Welcome back everyone to CallMe CEO.
(00:55):
This is your host, CamilleWalker.
It is so good to be with youtoday, especially as we are
talking about what to do whenyou are short on time and energy
.
And I can tell you, afterhaving last night I am sick and
my daughter was having an eighthgrade moment and we were up
late talking about grades andfriends and the drama and why do
(01:18):
we have to go to school and whydoes it start so early.
And, trust me, I tell her Idon't want to go through junior
high again, but we do, we do.
We go through junior high andall the grades again with our
kids.
So I am really looking forwardto today's discussion because
I'm feeling a little short onenergy and time.
Today we have Megan Tobler, whois the owner and the podcast
(01:40):
host of Self Start Her, which isan online community as well as
a podcast, sharing very similarstories motherhood and business.
So we know immediately that wealign and I'm so excited to have
this conversation today.
So, Megan, thank you for beingon the show today.
Megan (01:56):
Thank you so much for having me.
Camille, I have to sayeverything that you just talked
about.
I relate, but on a differentlevel.
I have a little one of my ownwho's now 16 months, so I'm not
quite yet in that middle schoolyears, but I'm looking forward
to them.
But I understand what you'retalking about with the no sleep
and not wanting to relive someof those days of the middle
school days.
Camille (02:16):
Yeah, it's for sure.
It's so funny because at everystage of parenting you're like
I'm going to get that sleep, I'mgoing to get that sleep, but
one way or another you have toprotect it as much as you can
and make up for it when you can,because whether it's a baby or
a teenager, they have needs atnight and it's just it changes.
So yeah, tell us a little bitmore about you, where you live,
(02:38):
your family and what yourmission is with what you do.
Megan (02:43):
Well, like I mentioned, I'm a mom first and that has
been the best title that I haveever had, and I've had a lot,
let's just put it that way.
I'm based in California, inSouthern California, and I've
been born and raised here myentire life, outside of studying
abroad for about four monthsduring my college days.
But as far as what I do youmentioned it I am the podcast
(03:05):
host of Self Starter and alsoabout to launch my upcoming
community called Together, whereI'm really focusing on the
current stage of life that I'min, where it's focused on moms
building businesses while alsojuggling all that life has at
home.
So that's really where I'mfocused on today and my whole
story has really led me to thismoment.
(03:25):
I will say it hasn't been aneasy path, but it's been a very
rewarding one and one that I amjust really excited to share
today.
Camille (03:34):
Very cool.
So with being a new mom andleaving corporate, I mean you've
made some pretty big jumps andchanges in the last few years.
What was it that led you tothis path of focusing on
motherhood and helping to buildcommunity of mothers?
Tell us a little bit about thatcorporate background.
I mean it sounds like you'vedone a lot.
Megan (03:55):
I'm going to say brace yourself, because we're here for
a little bit then.
So I actually spent over adecade in corporate sales.
I was climbing the corporateladder, I was getting promotions
and I was really making a namefor myself and also making a
really, really good income.
But that also came at a price.
I was on the road for up tothree hours each way to and from
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work every single day,commuting to and from my job.
Camille (04:19):
And yes, that sounds awful, three hours each way.
Megan (04:28):
Yes, that sounds awful, three hours each way.
I'm in LA or I was in LA, sosometimes the traffic, I call it
the four or five parking lotnot the four or five freeway,
for a reason.
Camille (04:34):
So it definitely so what time were you leave?
Okay, so I'm Utah, so we havemy husband commutes I don't know
25 minutes, 45 on a really badday, like if we have snow or
something.
So what time are you leavingfor work?
Megan (04:51):
Sometimes I would leave at 5 o'clock in the morning in
order to be there between 7 and8, depending on traffic, and
then I would try to leave around5 o'clock and then sometimes it
would take me until 8 o'clockto get home.
So it really just depended onthe circumstances of the day,
(05:11):
and there were things that areout of my control.
But what was in my control wasmy mindset, and I will say, the
first day that I sat in the carfor that length of time, I got
home and I started crying.
I was thinking is this, is thismy life?
It can't be.
So I had to really work onreframing my mindset, and so
what I did was I actually juststarted immersing myself in the
podcast and being able tosurround myself with
(05:34):
conversations that felt like Iwas just having a chat with my
best friend, but also I waslearning a lot in the process.
So I was really leaning intoJenna Kutcher and Amy
Porterfield and Marie Forleo allthe big ones that I just admire
so much and filling my brain,honestly, with all that
information.
So I started to think aboutokay, I know one day I want a
(05:58):
family, but with this currentstate of being on the road 24
seven, what it felt like atleast also never being able to
really take a break, because Iwas a quota-based career.
At that point, the majority ofmy money was based off of how
much I sold, so I wasn't able toactually take a real vacation.
I was able to go, but I wasconstantly on my computer making
(06:21):
sure that if deals were comingthrough, that I was taking care
of it to be able to make sure Iwas hitting my quotas.
So I really was starting tolook at okay, I know I want a
family, how can I make thispossible?
And I really had no idea how toanswer that question.
So what I did is in 2022, Istarted to really get frustrated
and I wanted to take that firststep into figuring out how to
(06:45):
make a new life for myselfpossible.
And so what I did is I startedto take a look at what are my
skills currently?
Okay, I love to talk to people,I love to hear their stories
and I love to help.
So I figured okay, why notcombine all of these areas of
expertise and start byinterviewing women that have
come before me, like the JennaKutcher's of the world?
(07:06):
But clearly I couldn't get toJenna Kutcher right away, so I
started with the people that Iknew and I started interviewing
them, recording it, talkingabout their stories, where they
came from, why they decided toleave corporate and, ultimately,
how their business has grownand their life has changed as a
result from that.
And what I had here was just inmy mind pure magic, because I
(07:28):
was so inspired every single day.
So I took all of thatinformation that I was able to
accumulate and I started sharingit with the world through this
podcast.
And multiple months had passedand I was just loving what I was
doing.
Come January of that followingyear, I decided to hire a
business coach and I told mybusiness coach I was doing.
Come January of that followingyear, I decided to hire a
business coach and I told mybusiness coach that I wanted to
be out of corporate by the nextquarter.
(07:50):
So as soon as I heard thisbusiness coach, as soon as I had
this conversation, I then foundout I was pregnant and I
backtracked.
I said okay, I'm not, I'm notready, I'm not ready.
I have to collect my maternityleave.
I am not ready to make that bigof a pivot.
But be careful what you ask for, because sometimes you might
just get that exact thing, justpackaged a little bit
(08:12):
differently.
And right after announcing mypregnancy to my company, I was
actually laid off with my entiresales department.
So, yeah, that's exactly how Ifelt was whoa, what do I do now?
So I went into panic mode and Ihad 40 interviews within two
weeks trying to get another job.
(08:34):
And I will say that afterconversation, after conversation
, I just knew that I wasn'tmeant to go back to corporate.
This was coming into my pathfor a reason and I needed to
listen to it.
So it was that moment where Irealized, okay, this is my
opportunity.
If not now, then when?
And I went all in on my podcastand my journey has just
(08:54):
unfolded from there.
Camille (08:56):
Oh, that's awesome.
I feel like that's so relatable, and it's funny that you say be
careful what you wish for,because you might just get it
right.
I feel like this.
I had a very similar situationhappen, but for me I was in the
mortgage business and it was themortgage crash of 2008.
And I was at a place where I'mlike I can't do this anymore.
I was in a toxic workenvironment and I said, if I'm
(09:17):
pregnant, I will stick around.
If I'm pregnant, I will getthrough, because the benefits
were so good.
Literally, my baby was $20.
And I did.
I stuck it out for that babyand then the company closed and
I got a severance for eightmonths.
It was like the most bizarreunveiling of like that path
being laid before me andthinking, oh well, this is what
(09:41):
I was ready for.
I wanted to be a mom.
Well, this is what I was readyfor.
I wanted to be a mom.
And I thought, gosh, if Ifollow this.
I remember being like I'm goingto quit if I'm not pregnant.
And I got a call that day andthey said you're pregnant and I
stuck it out, but then it justlaid out before me that it was
this moment of transitioninginto this new season, which is
(10:01):
so beautiful.
I love that that happened foryou too, because sometimes I
think we get that goldenhandcuff of like I'm here and
this is working.
This is what I know.
So that unknown of going intomotherhood and a different
season is so it can be so scary.
So what was it for you thathelped you get through that
(10:23):
instability or that unknown, toreally feel comfortable, to take
that leap?
Megan (10:28):
I think it was the pain of going back to what I was
doing before.
I think that was greater thanthe unknown at that point and I
will preface this that saying myhusband and I had a
conversation prior to decidingto not go back to corporate and
to go all in on my business,because I recognize that not
everyone has the financial meansto be able to really go in, all
(10:52):
out, having the fight withouthaving something already Exactly
, and so I have to recognize himand also make sure that that's
known, that we did have thatsafety net that I was able to
lean on as I went all in on thisbusiness.
So kind of a little asteriskthere for you.
Camille (11:09):
Yeah, no, that's a privilege to have, for sure,
because there are many singleparents or people who are the
breadwinners that that's not anoption and you have to weigh
through and figure out what thatseason looks like.
Yeah.
Megan (11:21):
And especially when you have a new baby, like you need
that safety net.
It is a season of a lot ofunknowns and to not have the
financial means during that timewhen you're bringing in a new
baby can be quite terrifying.
So I completely agree with you.
Camille (11:36):
Yes, oh, my gosh.
Well, I'm curious for the tipswith short on money and time and
energy.
Money, time and energy, all thethings when you're feeling
short what are those things thathave helped you to be able to
make space to get the thingsdone that you need to get done?
Megan (11:55):
Yeah.
So just to preface this again,I have built my entire podcast
and business either while I waspregnant or as a new mom and, as
you, you've had four childrenof your own, so you know that
it's exhausting sometimes.
Not even just one kid, letalone four.
I know I'm not quite there yet,but it's been a learning curve
(12:18):
and what I really had toprioritize is how I feel in
these different seasons.
So what I really started totake a step back and do is when
I was starting this business.
I really wanted to make surethat when I knew I was going to
have to build something duringnap time.
So I needed to make sure that Iwas really evaluating what type
of business that I was creating.
(12:39):
And if you don't have abusiness like this is something
that you can really apply intoany area of your life, because
you just need to prioritizewhat's important to you.
So for me, building a businesswas a top priority at this time.
So I was really thinking okay,am I building a business that
fits into my life, or am Icreating a business that fits
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into the life that I wanted?
And at that time I reallywanted to be able to be present
for all of my son's life moments.
I wanted to be able to makesure that I could be able to
make money but also like nursehim if he needed to be nursed,
or take him to his doctor'sappointments without having to
request time off of work.
So one of the ways that I wentabout this is when I, when I
(13:23):
hired a coach myself, I wasactually thinking about hired a
coach myself.
I was actually thinking aboutbecoming a coach myself.
As soon as I found out that Iwas pregnant, I knew again that
my time was going to be limitedand immediately I said I no
longer want to be a coach and Ilove coaching.
I think it's such a great andneeded profession out there, but
(13:43):
when I'm having my new boss asthis infant who really dictates
the time of the day, it didn'tmake sense because I then would
have needed to invest inchildcare and that's really what
I was avoiding at this time.
So I think when you are takinga look at your business and just
your life's priorities ingeneral, really think about okay
, what is the life that I wouldlike and design that business
(14:07):
around that.
So that's tip number one.
Camille (14:10):
I love that and I think that a key point is how you
want that to feel, becauseeveryone's priorities of how
they want it to feel and looklike and that life they're
wanting to create is a differentdefinition depending on the
season and the time and what itis that you have to give and
your bandwidth, Because, likeyou said, for years when I was
(14:30):
doing my business from home withall my little babies and
pregnant, I never had a nanny.
I always did it in the pocketsof time that I had and for a lot
of people, especially that Italked to on this podcast,
they're like how in the world?
But if you find pockets of timeand you get creative about it,
you can make it happen.
But you also want to keep inmind how you want it to feel,
(14:53):
and a lot of times that meanstaking a slower pace and being
okay with that slower pace andknowing that even those small
steps create the progress towhat you are creating long term.
So I love that.
Megan (15:07):
And you mentioned the word season and I really want to
just emphasize that, becausethat has been really what I have
been holding on to when timesdo get tough, because life is
just a series of seasons and weare all in different stages and
different seasons of life andit's important to be able to
understand that.
Okay, yes, it might be toughnow, but this is just a season.
(15:28):
I maybe only have an hour a dayto be able to focus on my
business or whatever task is athand, but this, too, shall get
easier as time goes on and on,because it's just for a short
amount of time and I just reallywanted to be able to soak in
all of the time that I did have,knowing that it was limited.
Camille (15:45):
It goes so fast.
It goes so fast.
I don't regret for a minute thechoices that I made to be at
home with my kids.
It really is such a magical,beautiful time.
And then they become teenagers.
No, I'm just kidding.
I love my teenagers.
They're so great, but it reallydoes.
I think the season of life I'min now, looking back, I can
pinpoint those moments and seethose mamas with their babies
(16:07):
and just it flies.
It just flies by.
You always hear that it soundslike such a like a trote what is
it A rote thing to say?
Like it's can be trite or itcan seem really simple, but you,
just you live it.
And then you look back andyou're like, oh my gosh, that
was a blink.
So, yeah, soak in as much asyou can.
And then I have friends, too,who they're like babyhood,
(16:30):
infant time.
That is not where I have themost fulfillment as a mother.
I need a nanny, I need thatsupport, I need to be able to
get out and talk to adults.
I needed a part-time job.
I needed to work full-time tobe a better mom for me, and
that's totally cool too.
I think that each of us has adifferent definition of what
embracing that season looks like, and that is totally okay.
Megan (16:53):
Totally, and I think that's why I have really enjoyed
the podcast is because I alsoneeded that connection and that
sense of relatability thatallowed me to be able to meet
people like you.
Honestly, that just keeps yougoing and fired up for the days
where you literally feel likeyou're just going to crash
because you are functioning onno sleep.
Yeah, no matter if you're aninfant or a middle school age
(17:19):
child, as you started with here.
Yeah, but I will say that thesecond tip here is everyone's
limit on time, and one thingthat a lot of people say is that
we all have the same 24 hoursin the day.
But yes, we might all have 24hours, but everyone's
circumstances are so different.
So it's how we use those 24hours that's really setting you
(17:42):
apart here.
And when you do have limitedtime and maybe you can only
squeeze things into certainpockets of time, is really just
defining one must-do task thatyou have to accomplish every day
, no matter what.
And I say that because if youlook at the entire picture of
your entire to-do list, it'soverwhelming.
We have just a never-endingto-do list as women here, and if
(18:06):
you look at everything, you'renot going to get anything done.
So just start with one must dotask, because if you can just
accomplish that check that offof your list for the day, you
will feel a win and and be ableto propel yourself forward
knowing that you were able toaccomplish what you wanted to do
.
So for for me, as from abusiness perspective, I really
wanted to.
I was prioritizing the podcast.
(18:27):
So at that time, even even if Ionly had 15 minutes during his
wake windows to be able to getsomething done, I just would set
different tasks for specificdays.
Like maybe I do the show noteson this day, maybe I prospect
and invite guests on for for myTuesdays, maybe I um, I do on my
inner my interview prep on myWednesdays, and the list goes so
(18:49):
on and so forth.
So that way I'm not really downon myself when I'm not able to
accomplish everything all atonce because his nap windows
were just too short, becausebelieve me, especially in
(19:20):
infancy, those were basicallynon-existent windows, especially
in infancy.
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I agree with that.
It is so true that and one Ilove theming my days where I
have a specific focus for eachday, and it doesn't mean that
(20:04):
it's a perfect execution ofeverything that needs to get
done, but you have an idea ofwhat it is that you're doing and
then, of course, feeling thatsense of accomplishment.
And there are days that gettingup and taking care of the baby
and taking a shower and gettingout for a walk is like the thing
, like that's what you're doing.
Then, if you get that done,like that is, a win like the
thing, like that's what you'redoing, then if you get that done
like that is a win.
(20:26):
So I agree with that.
It's really being gentle withyourself, giving yourself that
grace, because that confidenceis built on consecutive growth,
where if you make a commitmentto yourself and you keep that
commitment, that's where youbuild trust with yourself and
that's where you buildconfidence to keep going.
I know that when I started mypodcast or, sorry, my blog, I
(20:52):
had two little ones at home.
They were, I don't know, threeand eight months or something
like that and I was doing blogposts about recipes and sewing a
matching bow tie and hair bow,like it was so random but it was
so fun for me, and so I thinkreally looking for an element of
fun in that to do so that youfeel that rejuvenation to keep
(21:13):
yourself going, is reallyimportant as well.
Megan (21:16):
I couldn't agree more.
I think that for me, it wasgetting outside and taking a
walk that made me feel alive andgetting the vitamin D it's so
needed because, especially as anew mom, you find that you're
very isolated and sometimes it'seasier just to stay home, just
because the routine of eat,sleep, change the diapers and
(21:36):
repeat is never ending.
So just being able to sneak outand just focus on something for
yourself, that was a gamechanger for me.
It was even just going forthose walks and even being able
to put in a little podcast orcatch a phone call.
It just made you feel a littlebit more human.
Camille (21:53):
Yes, I call them walk and talks.
I'll do those either.
Sometimes I'll do like a bookor a podcast or something when
I'm walking.
But my best and most favoritethings I did as a especially a
young, like baby toddler mom wasI had a friend I went on walks
with very regularly and we wouldwalk for a long time and it was
(22:16):
like the bread to my life, likeit was so good to get out and
it was so good for the kids andwe connected and bonded so much
during that time because we werein that same phase.
So if you can find someonethat's in that same phase with
you and you have a general ideaof when you go out and do these
walks, it just is life, even inthe winter, even in the cold.
(22:37):
You're in California, so youdon't have to worry about that
as much, but we would go out ondays that it was rainy and cold
or icy and just dressappropriately, get those kids
dressed, because it really is.
It's like opening up thatuniverse and I have always said
that walking and talking is thewashing machine of your mind and
your brain and it gives youthat deep breath of like okay,
(22:59):
we got this and it's fun to likego, especially if you're going
to find a friend, and sosometimes I'll do that on a
phone call.
When I had my little babies, Idid have someone that I would go
on walks with, which, by theway, she moved to Idaho and
we're both driving like an hourand a half tomorrow to see each
other to go, have like a walktogether and a lunch, because
(23:19):
we're at a season in our lifenow where our kids are in school
but I haven't seen her in along time.
So we're going to drive and seeeach other tomorrow and go for
a walk and we still feel soconnected because we went on
those long walk and talkstogether.
We felt so connected with eachother because you help each
other through.
So find a friend and be willingto open up and just chat, even
(23:41):
if it feels scary, because it isso worth it to find that
community.
Megan (23:45):
I again, I couldn't agree more with that.
That's kind of actually leadsinto my tip.
Number three is to be able tofind that support system and, to
your point, to be able to findsomeone that's kind of going
through the same, like they'rein the trenches with you.
And even if there's not someonein your life that's going
through it.
We have access to this thingcalled the internet that
generations before us didn'thave, and I think that in some
(24:08):
ways it's sometimes a detrimentto us because, like, we have
access 24 seven, but in otherways it's just this beautiful
thing because it's allowed us toconnect with so many people
that we otherwise wouldn't havemet.
And, like today's conversation,I probably wouldn't have met
you if it wasn't for theinternet and it's being able to,
um, find these people that arekind of going through the same
(24:31):
things in life that you are, andyou can find a support group
pretty much for for anything outthere or a podcast.
So if you're not, if you're notreally wanting to go and chat
with a friend for some, for somereason that day, just pop on a
podcast, watch a YouTube video,maybe even scroll the gram
sometimes, because sometimesyou're feeling a little bit
(24:52):
connected that way.
It's just being able to feellike, okay, I'm not alone.
Today I need this little doseof inspiration and these people
get it.
And I would say that Iaccidentally found my community,
because I started my podcast asmore of like a peak of
curiosity and it justorganically molded into this
(25:14):
wonderful community.
And I have to say, sometimes ifyou just put yourself out there
, the community will justnaturally be drawn to you and
who knows what can happen as aresult of that.
You just looking for someone tohave a chat with.
Camille (25:28):
Yeah, yeah, and I think a big key in this and it's
interesting because the conceptstays the same whether you are a
new mom, whether you are aretiree and the kids have moved
out of the house, or whetheryou're in junior high there is
an element of risk of puttingyourself out there and finding
friends and being the inviter orthe creator of the content, and
(25:50):
it is vulnerable.
It is vulnerable to show up totell your stories, to put your
face on in the internet neverknowing Believe me, I've had
years of troll content that mineis pretty mild because I keep
myself pretty.
Years of troll content thatmine is pretty mild because I
keep myself pretty.
I'm not a controversial persononline by any means, but it is
so vulnerable and it isvulnerable to ask a friend for a
(26:14):
number, just like it is whenyou were in junior high, like
there really is a piece ofconfidence and willingness to be
vulnerable, to be open to thatcommunity.
So I'm proud of you for doingthat, because it is not easy to
create it and to invite, but itis so worth it.
Megan (26:33):
It is worth it.
And I think you had mentionedbeing able to ask that person
for a number.
I was actually.
I took my son to the librarythe other day for story time and
I met this wonderful other momwho is this accomplished doctor,
and she just she and I very,very much clicked and I was just
beating myself up after becauseI didn't ask her for her number
and it it's one of those thingslike if you have the urge to to
(26:58):
connect with someone, just putyourself out there.
The worst thing that can happenis they say no.
But my unique and suspicion isthat they won't, because if
you're feeling a connection,then they likely did too.
And even though, yes, I putmyself out there, started a
podcast, faced rejection, itdoesn't mean that I'm imperfect
by any means, because I stillhave moments where I'm kind of
(27:19):
just kicking myself for notmoving forward with that little
gut feeling that I had.
So hopefully I run into heragain, but if not, then there's
all of you wonderful people tobe able to.
Camille (27:31):
Yeah and show up again.
That's the thing is that youfind people one of the best
pieces of advice and it'sinteresting because the top two
questions I've gotten for thepast 12 years online have been
how do I make money from homeand how do I make friends and
legit like we are lonely.
We need connection and we alsowant to feel value and purpose
and be able to provide for ourfamilies, and so that is why
(27:54):
I've created the content and thecommunities that I have,
because those are literally thetop two questions I've been
given.
So a good piece of advice hereis go to the places where you
have the interest with the samepeople that are around you,
meaning the book club that youdid, or an example of something
(28:14):
that my son did recently that Iwas really proud of him for is.
He got into Magic, the Card Game, which we call Nerd Camp,
because he goes on Tuesdaynights legit, he's 16 years old
and none of his friends are intoit and he's like I really like
this and I'm kind of interestedand I don't know.
My husband had some old cardsthat he had found from when he
(28:35):
was a teenager and he said Ithink I'm going to go check this
out, and he did.
He went to this card shop andnow he has this whole community
of people that he goes and hangsout with every Tuesday night
and a lot of them are like 30something year old men and it is
hilarious.
Some of them are teenagers buta lot of them are not.
And so he comes home onTuesdays and we say, how was
(28:57):
nerd camp?
And he's like it was great,look at this card I got, or like
whatever.
And even sometimes he'll driveto another neighboring city and
kind of venturing out to meetmore people that way and I'm so
proud of him because that is soscary, especially as a teenager
and knowing it's not like theair quote cool thing.
But who cares?
Like if you have interest in?
I did a belly dancing classwhen I had a baby and I was like
(29:20):
I do not feel cute or sexy orwhatever, but belly dancing,
like that'd be fun.
I didn't know anyone and Iended up making a really good
friend from doing that and it'sjust, you just need to put
yourself out there.
So go to the communities or theplaces where you have natural
interest and chances are you'regoing to attract someone who is
(29:41):
similar to you.
I always tell my kids that likeattracts, like meaning, the
kind of person you are, theenergy you have, the interest
that you are interested in, willbring people towards you if you
have that ability to openyourself and be brave enough to
go seek after them.
Megan (29:58):
I agree, I completely agree.
It was.
You're talking about going tothe places where you just
naturally are interested in, andI think that those other people
are obviously naturallyinterested in those things as
well.
So and also, so it's going to,like you said, like attracts,
like.
But also think about if you'reafraid to put yourself out there
(30:19):
.
You're not the only one that'safraid, because every, every
single person almost in thisworld it has that fear of
putting themselves out there.
So if you're feeling thatlikely they are to just be the
be the person, reach out yourhand, shake, shake their hand
and introduce yourself, becauseI guarantee you they're wanting
to do that too.
They just are afraid to do it.
(30:40):
So if you put yourself outthere, that shows that you're
confident, that you're ready tobe able to kind of get to know
this person, and that you're,you're interested and
immediately a conversation issparked.
Camille (30:50):
Yeah, I love that and that is such good advice.
Yeah, I love that and that issuch good advice.
It really no one is alone infeeling that way of self-doubt
or to think, oh, but what ifthey don't like me?
Or oh, what am I wearing?
Or what am I going to say?
Love the messy if you'reconfident and willing to just
(31:13):
show up as imperfect and who youare, because then that gives
them the permission to bethemselves in their imperfect
self and state.
So think about the people thatyou really love and cherish
being around.
It's not the perfectly polishedthey always say the right thing
and look perfect.
No, it's the person who is ableto laugh at themselves and will
(31:35):
make open opportunities forpeople to feel comfortable in
their space.
And I just think that there isso much to be remembered in that
, because it's easy to forgetwhen we're putting ourselves out
in that way.
Megan (31:48):
People love authenticity and everything that I've seen
online.
The big word for 2025 isauthenticity.
So like, scratch perfection,just do it messy, put yourself
out there, because it isrelatable.
Everyone wants to understandthat I'm not alone here.
Oh wait, she's rocking the fiveday old like non-washed hair
(32:10):
too, with just a bunch of dryshampoo.
I am too so.
She doesn't have a perfect puttogether outfit.
Neither do I.
My kids have these gorgeous,well-crafted outfits, but my bra
is five years old.
Things like that.
It's real and people want realtoday, so couldn't agree more.
(32:30):
I will say that actually, Iknow it's a little bit of a
band-aid, but being able to meetpeople in person with my son
has actually been really helpfulbecause it's a natural
conversation starter.
You're going through a similarthing in life that they are.
So even if you don't have alittle toddler running around
(32:51):
like we were talking aboutbefore, going to these places
where there is that commoninterest, that common like
that's just a naturalconversation starter for you
there.
Camille (32:59):
Yeah, I've always said if everyone could walk around
with a puppy or a baby, we wouldhave a much more connected
world, because they naturallybring questions like oh, they're
so cute, how old are they?
Can I pet them?
Can I say hi to whatever?
Megan (33:15):
Not petting the kid, petting the dog.
Sometimes people try to petyour kid.
Camille (33:17):
Yeah, I've had that many times.
Or your belly and you're likethat's weird.
But yeah, I totally agree withthat.
That has been so true and suchthe case with getting yourself
out there and having theopportunity to connect with
people, so this conversation hasbeen so good.
Do you have any other tips thathave been on your heart that
(33:38):
you would like to share?
Megan (33:41):
I would just say for.
For anyone that is out thereand thinking about can I have
more?
The question or the answer isabsolutely.
You just have to identifyexactly what is that more that
you're looking for and take thatfirst step, because, I will say
, the first step is the absolutehardest because the fear is in
(34:04):
the way.
So if we can take that firststep, push the fear aside and
overcome it, then each step getseasier and easier and I will
say that fear keeps creeping upat every single stage because
it's natural.
It means that you're pushingyourself and you're expanding.
So fear is natural.
So know that it's 100% going tobe there, but it's really if
(34:26):
you just keep taking those steps.
That's going to be thedifference from if you're going
to achieve that more or not.
Camille (34:32):
Yeah, yeah, I love that .
If you're going to achieve thatmore or not, yeah, yeah, I love
that.
So two questions that I askevery guest that come on the
show is one what are you reading, watching or listening to?
You can share one of each orjust one of the three.
And then the second is amotherhood moment that you'd
want to share, whether it befunny, loving, touching,
(34:53):
memorable, whatever funny,loving, touching, memorable,
whatever.
Megan (34:59):
So I'm actually about to launch my own community with
guest speakers, so I'm actuallyreading one of the books from
one of the mastermind ormasterclass speakers.
It's called the blood book andit's really about um syncing
your cycle to your task list, sobasically, as you're running
your business, being able to dothings at different optimal
times based on your energylevels.
So I found that veryfascinating and, honestly, my
(35:24):
book list is piled like a milehigh on my nightstand because at
the end of the day, I will tellyou, I can only get through a
couple of pages before I'm out.
A day with a toddler is no jokesometimes.
And then funny moments.
I will tell you, every day is afunny moment in itself, but I
(35:47):
will say that one of the bigthings about motherhood is they
don't tell you the amount ofmess that would happen when they
eat.
So I am constantly making my, myson, this food and he'll he'll
grab it out and then he'll justdump it on the floor and then I
think he enjoys watching me pickit up and if it wasn't for my
dog, I would probably just leaveit there.
(36:09):
But I have the world's mostsensitive dog that um, would end
up in a probably a $10,000 vetbill if she ate this.
So it's this game that my sonand I now have, where I put the
food there and he thinks it'stime to put it on the floor.
So we just make light of it.
(36:31):
We have the best time eating ornot eating, together, whatever
he decides to do for the day,and just enjoying all of life's
moments, because it's really, Ithink, like the littlest moments
for me that are the mostintimate and enjoyable and
memorable for me Funny, funny ornot, sometimes just just sweet.
Camille (36:54):
Oh, that is so fun, that is so true.
I actually look back at thosepictures of the messy, like the
yogurt or the spaghetti, andthere's some of my favorite
pictures to look at, which Iknow you're in the middle of it.
So you're like, oh, that's likeevery day and every meal is
like a bath after becausethey're just like smeared in
their hair or whatever.
But, yeah, I, it's, I'm able to, and even from like child one
(37:18):
to child four.
Looking at that and being likechild one, I'd be like, oh, you
know, I just was way morefrustrated by child four.
I'm like it'll clean off, it'sfine, just put a garbage bag on
the floor, which is actually areally good tip.
You just put a garbage bag flaton the floor so that if they,
if they do get really messy orwhatever, it doesn't get all
(37:40):
over your floor.
But it's just like on thegarbage bag laying flat.
Megan (37:43):
I did that last night and that was a game changer.
But yeah, so highly highlysuggest that.
Tip right there because it willsave your carpet.
If I have a rug underneath mytable and it's cream and it's
completely ruined, so I'velearned now to put a trash bag
underneath it and it's a mucheasier cleanup and takes a lot
of the stress out of it.
My husband can't sit there forthe meal times because it
(38:05):
stresses him out.
His OCD is just on the nextlevel.
So I just I embrace it and wehave a good time.
We put on some music and makethe most of our messy meal
together.
Camille (38:16):
Messy middle.
Oh, I love that.
Well, this has been so much fun.
I really appreciate those tipsthat you've shared today,
bringing back some of thosememories for me of the babies.
And it is a time like you arein it, and it is a challenging
time, so I commend you for everylittle bit of effort you're
making in building yourcommunity.
Please tell our audience alittle bit more about your
(38:36):
podcast and where they can findyou.
Megan (38:42):
Well, and I have to first say that people like you are an
inspiration, because you'vedone this with raising four
children and having a successfulshow as well as a successful
business.
So it is possible to do both,but it's not always easy, and I
think that's what I reallywanted to share today is that
you can have it all, butsometimes it's going to take,
maybe a little bit longer thanyou had hoped for, but it's
worth it 100% when you're ableto accomplish what you want from
(39:05):
a career standpoint as well asa family life as well.
But if you wanna follow me, I'mover on Instagram, so
selfstarther the self-starterpodcast on all podcasting
platforms, and if you want tolearn more about the upcoming
community for women buildingbusinesses while juggling life
at home, it's justselfstartercom.
Slash together.
Camille (39:25):
Awesome.
Well, thank you for thatcompliment.
I really appreciate that, andif you are listening to this and
thinking you want to startsomething or grow your business,
or you're in the weeds andtrying to figure it out, I offer
coaching and I also have amastermind where entrepreneurs
who are looking for support havethat community as well, so I
would love to help you reach outto me at camillewalkerco on
(39:47):
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