AN INTERVIEW WITH A CROSSDRESSER - "LIFE IS NEVER EASY"

MIA AND WHITNEY SIT DOWN TO DISCUSS LIFE AS A CROSSDRESS AND THE ISSUES CAN CAUSE IN LIFE. IT'S NOT ALWAYS RAINBOWS AND BUTTERFLIES WHEN DECIDING ON BEING WHO YOU TRULY ARE OR BEING WHO YOUR FAMILY AND SOCIETY WANT YOU TO BE.

LISTEN TO HER STORY AND YOU LET US KNOW YOUR THOUGHTS.. LIFE OF A CROSSDRESSER IS NEVER EASY.

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Episode Transcript

(00:12):
Hi, welcome to the latest episode of Call Me Mistress.
I'm your Hostess, Mistress Mia, and today I have a special guest
with me. I have someone who has not yet
been on the show, but we met years and years ago.
So today I want to introduce youto Whitney.

(00:33):
So Whitney, tell us how it all began.
You're a cross dresser. Yes, ma'am.
And it started probably when I was younger and I was, you know,
I would dress up summer trying different stuff and, you know, I
never thought anything of it. And then as I got older, I

(00:58):
started realizing I enjoyed wearing dresses and different
shoes. And I really like kids.
They're super cute. That's, that was when I was
growing up. That's what all the girls wore
too. And it just kind of made me
realize that I like dressing this way.
Like I prefer it. Like I don't really like having

(01:20):
to be a be a man. It's it's honestly kind of
terrible. I'm sure a lot of people could
relate to that. You know, you first came to see
me and you were in college and you were quite the little

(01:41):
handsome, sexy thing I must say when you were in, when college,
when you were was this 19? Yeah, I think so. 19 or 20?
Yeah, and so you came to see me in the dungeon for the first
time, and of course you were your kids.
You bought me a pair of black kids and you came in, you told

(02:05):
me you had the KED fetish, and Iwas like, now wait a minute.
I think there's more to this than just kids.
Yes, ma'am. And ultimately, we did this
scene together, and I remember putting you in the swing and you
were dressed up and we're doing all sorts of dirty things that

(02:28):
you do in the dungeon. And I said, I bet you want a big
black cock in your mouth. And you're like, no, no, I'm not
gay. I'm not a fag.
Yes, I remember that. You remember that?
I mean this has been probably 7 years ago.

(02:50):
Yeah, probably. It might be a little bit longer.
Yeah. And then you, you say this and
you looked at me very perplexed,like I was the dumb one.
And then ultimately, ultimately you said, well, how did you
know? How do you know these things?
Because you came back a year later and you're like, Mistress,

(03:12):
you were right all along. Yep.
And it just honestly, it kind oftook somebody forcing that out
of me, you know, And it's and it's true.
I do, I mean prefer penis now like predominantly like trans
women or other crossdressers, but like, yeah, I just.
But when I'm in girl mode, it's kind of whatever, as long as I

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mean, to be honest, there's a penis involved, so.
You know, is it just about the penis or is it would you be in a
relationship with a man? Adam's still trying to discover
like if let me digress for a second.
If a woman wanted me to be with a man 100%, but I'm still in

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that where I want to be told what to do kind of because it's
it's a part of my learning. Like if because of course I'm
not just going to be like, OK, I'm going to go dad a man, but
like, yeah, a girl like a good friend or a mistress was like,
no, you're going to then yeah, Iwould.
And then that could help evolve me more.
Like I wasn't open to penis until you basically told me I I

(04:24):
was into it and you honestly putone down my throat.
Like then that's when I was like, OK, you know, so it's
like, I don't know trans women 100%.
Like they're, they're so gorgeous.
But it's, I mean, and then a woman with a strap always,
always and forever. But I think it is more like not

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as maybe it's sad to say or bad to say, but maybe it's not as
much the relationship with the man as it is just like being
able to be a girl, be Sissy, be controlled and have a penis
somewhere in me. Does that make sense?
It does. Do you know why you have these
feelings the way you do? I have never been able to figure

(05:11):
it out honestly, but I've started to embrace them.
You know, a lot of times we do, we embrace what we crave because
it makes us feel better. But ultimately, you've had an
emotional disconnect in your life.
And psychologists will have their own opinion, but I mean,

(05:32):
reasonably so. Between 8:00 and 12:00,
prepubescent years, I should say, and, and how you get your
sexual development. But you know you're not a
passable woman. But you want to be, I take it?
Yes, ma'am. And it's normally because, you
know, you want to feel special and maybe escaping as a man,

(05:57):
taking the real pressures of your life, you know, turning you
into a woman you think are goingto make those things disappear.
But I know you're very submissive.
So what was your relationship like with your mother and
father? It was, honestly, it was, it was

(06:17):
great. You know, there was, it was my
normal upbringing. Mom and dad both had solid jobs.
I mean, we're not completely wealthy by any means, but we we
were wealthy enough to where I played baseball when I wanted
played football, all the sports,you know, they all the cookouts,
everything really wasn't the only the only thing from my

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childhood that I remember was when I was like 8 years old, I
used to jump out of the fishing boat to my dad in the garage.
And it's funny now I went in at all, Mom still don't think it's
funny, but I was jumping to my dad about to, but my mom called
him and he turned and looked andI jumped and I landed and hit my

(07:01):
head and knocked me out. I had to go to the hospital.
And you know, it took me like they said, I had a concussion
and something else. I was too young.
I can't remember, but yeah. So, but then it took me like 2
weeks later, I was back to, you know, normal or it was actually
about two months later, I'm sorry, before I could play

(07:22):
baseball and stuff again and T-ball and then.
But as I grew up, you know, still playing sports, life was
good. So I had great parents.
It wasn't really like that. Now they're very Southern, you
know, and Methodist, you know, very not sheltered.
But obviously this way life was not ever talked about, you know?

(07:47):
Do you remember life before the age of 8?
Vaguely small memories, you know, like it's just so hard to
remember that long ago at this age, but and just, you know,
when you're younger, you with your, your brain development and
everything, some memories get just get lost.
But I don't remember much before, probably 7-8, other than

(08:08):
I know I played base, T-ball andall the normal stuff that kids
do. Do you think maybe you're
suppressing memories from beforethat?
I don't think so. And the only reason is because I
did, you know, I did go to therapies, kid, just because of
ADHD and stuff. And I've talked to therapists

(08:29):
over the years and, you know, they've tried to crack into it
and, you know, they say that it's they don't, they don't
speculate that there was any trauma prior to that.
That's interesting. You know, it's I've known people
that have always been, you know,trans or cross dressers, you

(08:51):
know, and there's always been some type of emotional
disconnect, some type of trauma.Sometimes they were raised in a
highly dysfunctional situation, but you know only you will be
able to know. You know why you feel the way
you do at some point, but you feel the need to escape.

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As a man you have a desire, obviously, to submit to.
Is it primarily black men or just cops in general?
Yes, ma'am, but also mainly for women though, like again, like
my main thing is to serve a woman.
Like I mean, I have a perfect scenario in my head, but that'll
probably probably won't happen. But it would be nice, but I'm

(09:35):
not going to bore you all with that but.
It's important what what is the scenario 'cause you got married?
I did and. Is it fulfilling?
Yeah, I mean, I love her. I really do.
You know, there's some intimacy is not really there as far as
sexual intercourse. But I mean, we, we do love each

(09:56):
other and I do everything for her, but she's not very dominant
and she doesn't mind me dressingwhen we share a closet.
But there's just certain things that I wish that I could have in
life that I'm probably not. Like that?
Well, I've always told myself like I would love to find a very

(10:19):
Pretty Woman or just a, you know, a nice woman in general
who is dominant, who basically wants to turn her man into a
woman and wants to make him dress up, force him to go out
with her, have girls nights, youknow, force, force him to take

(10:42):
estrogen. Like, you know, like literally
force truly force feminized to be who I am.
Like and of course there's othersubsections of that, like
obviously, you know, being somewhat degraded and whatnot,
but I just, it would be nice to and you know, to have a woman

(11:02):
who literally makes me even if Idon't want.
Do you feel like if a woman forces you to do it, it takes
the guilt away from you? More than likely, yeah.
And it is kind of like I want togive it up, but it's in my mind
it's not as easy. So if a woman takes it from me,
you know I'm going to be submissive to her anyways.
So if if she literally would take it from me, then I would it

(11:26):
would be phenomenal. I know that may not make sense
to a lot of people. Or maybe it does it.
Could very well people experience the same things.
But I mean, like, and I told myself to like, you know, now
I've, I've made some, I've made some good choices in life and
very well financially stable. And and so, you know, and I

(11:48):
didn't joked with myself saying I'm going to find a woman who
wants that. I'm going to support her.
And all she's got to do is literally, you know, transition
me and force me to do these things and force me to try
things, whatever she wanted, basically.
So, but I guess I just kind of settled, you know, because I

(12:10):
mean, where I live, it's really hard to find.
You know, the harder things thatyou really want can be very
difficult to find, and that's just part of life,
unfortunately. But you know, when I first met
you, I was like, don't get married.
Don't do it. You did anyway.

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And that's partly too like, I tried to think, OK, well, this
is my life now, like, or becauseof my job and what I do and what
I have done between, you know, Iwas in the military and, you
know, I was like, well, I'm going to be a man's man and get
married. And, you know, and it was done

(12:55):
with for a little while. You know, I was able to suppress
those the true, true things I wanted to do.
And yeah, I guess just over time, they started creeping back
out. And and then I accidentally got
on the Internet and saw a video of a mistress forcing a man to

(13:16):
be a woman and basically, I mean, pegging him, crushing his,
his clit like, and I was like, Iwant to be that girl or you
know, that that Sissy, like that's, that's who I am.
And it's just evolved and it's, it's just banging on the door
right now to get out. And it's just, it's terrible.

(13:38):
Like again, and some of the kinks that I've really thought
about that I want to do or just they're banging to get out.
Yeah, you know, the cravings arejust going to get worse,
unfortunately. Yeah, and I think the kinks, I
can eventually, you know, try ordo some of them.

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One of them is a little silly, Iguess, and it obviously involves
cats, but it's. Yeah, to to the listeners, we
have to reiterate this. You're always sending me
pictures of you and cute little kids.
Yes, ma'am. So that in itself is adorable.
Just saying but. But, you know, if I can, you

(14:24):
know, get a few of these things to happen, you know, it may help
push me to that next step. Or, you know, if I or if I find
even a female friend that will literally just be like, hey, now
you're going to do this, you know what I mean?
Even non sexually like this is what you're going to do, then
that would be phenomenal. You know what I mean?

(14:46):
Find a woman who I can share shoes and clothes with, you
know, And that would be, I mean,that would be enough to, I
guess, keep the pot from boilingover, so to speak.
Yeah, you have to find your truehappiness.
You really do. I know how difficult it is for

(15:06):
you because I see it with so many people and struggle.
The the whole concept of struggling through this, it's
difficult. Yes, ma'am.
I know, but. I guess we'll see.
You know, I'm I'm still, you know, I'm still fat, obviously.
And, you know, hopefully, you know, I can meet a female in

(15:27):
there that that would like a friend like me and, you know,
would not take no for an answer,you know, but like, and I
thought I'd found one a while back.
It was probably a couple years ago.
But she was well, you don't wantto hear about that.
But it just didn't work. No, it's OK.
Go ahead and tell your story. I am I am very giving, like I

(15:49):
love to help others and and do things for others.
That's just who I am. Even before Whitney truly, you
know, over evolved, but you know, I met this one lady and
she was kind of what I wanted. She wanted, she wanted me to
transition and we happen to wearthe same size shoes and clothes.
And so I was I would buy her. I probably bought her like 15

(16:12):
pairs of shoes, of course like 6of them were cats.
But then I bought her a couple outfits and stuff like that and
then she just ghosted me. And I'd also paid her a little
bit of money and she just ghosted me.
And so it kind of that hurts because it's like some of these
women though, I don't, I don't mind.
Like I want to spoil a woman whomakes me, but it's almost like

(16:36):
though I want her to be able to enjoy this journey and want this
to happen. And then but that's why I get
kind of shallow on that because a lot of women just want money.
Like they don't, they'll say what they have to do and they
cut shoes, clothes, whatever. And it's just like it, it almost
like I know that like I've whereI'm at, I feel like this is

(17:00):
weird and and quirky and stuff, but that right there where it's
supposed to be, you know, it's supposed to be a place where I
can be myself really does push me back in the closet sometimes
because it's like, you know, youbasically just, you know, lied
to me and made me feel like likeshit, you know.
Yeah, I know. So.

(17:22):
People get wrapped up into it and then when it gets too real
and too deep, you know, they just, they shy away, you know,
they don't want to really deal with the whole realism.
And like the concept of this manreally wants a vagina and he
wants to be an HRT and he wants to go all the way, you know?

(17:43):
And it's harder when you're sucha sexy man.
If you were ugly, might be easier.
Yes, ma'am. And like, you know, I'm I'm
obviously talking with my my, you know, voice, but when I do
throw in a pair of jeans and boots and a shirt and you know,
I got really muscular. That's another problem too is
like I've gotten I know and you know, the muscles in the 8 pack

(18:10):
look great and jeans and boots, but not in a dress.
And you know, if a woman too wanted best of both worlds, like
I could, I could compromise too.That would be another thing.
Like obviously I'm going to be aprotector regardless of what I
do and I really don't have to transition.
But you know, if every once in awhile come home, you know, she's

(18:30):
like, take that off, you're going to be with me, put this on
and we're having a girls night. You know, best of both worlds.
You can have a a guy friend and a girlfriend, you know, husband
and wife, because if she did that, I'd be doing all the
chores, all the cleaning. I would want to do all the
chores because I could have you.Talked to her about this.

(18:51):
Yes. And she so she tried to strap
on, she didn't really like it and she wore heads and let me
make out with them and stuff. And it just you could tell she
went into it and it was never brought up again.
So that's why though she's OK. Like if I had a female friend,

(19:13):
she don't mind if I go shopping or stuff like that because she's
not into that. But she is open enough to let me
have female friends and not think of it in a sexual way.
Because I mean, and honestly, I wouldn't, you know, I wouldn't
betray that, you know, because Ijust, I want to be one of the
girls and you know, and then with those female friends, I'm

(19:35):
still one of the guys that I need to be, you know, so it's
just it is a different dynamic. And there there may be one
person out there that understands how I feel about it,
but. If I'm like that, I know there's
someone out there. I mean, right now I have a
lovely little Sissy slave because my husband, he's, he's

(19:55):
not a Sissy slave. So I have a nice little Sissy
slave and I dress him up and make him pretty and make him
wear high heels. You know, you can do this.
You can find someone like this. You know I'm going to look and
heck, maybe I just need to come back down here and clean your
house for you. I don't know.
Yes, you can come here anytime. I will dress you up.

(20:18):
You know, the alternative is I knew this, this one couple,
they're very good friends of mine, very sweet people.
They're both submissive, but they're best friends.
They got married, they fell in love.
So they basically draw their little love out of a hat.
Kind of. OK, whose night is it going to
be? You know, what are, what are we

(20:38):
going to do? Who's going to dominate who?
You know, the best thing of it is if you truly love your wife
and she truly loves you, you said, you know, you're lacking
intimacy, you're lacking sex. Does she not want to have sex?
Is it you not wanting to have sex?
It's me and I mean I want to, but it just now it just doesn't

(21:02):
work when I want to for that. Like it works for other things.
Like granted, I keep it locked up a lot, like it's locked up
right now, but it's like I tried, but I just I can't.
But like if a dominant woman, you know, if she was dominant,
it probably would. But I just, I've been alpha of
my entire life in the, you know,in the real world, not in what I

(21:24):
am. And it's just like, I'm tired of
being alpha and tired of being dominant and I literally just
want to be someone Sissy bitch. And like, I need a woman to tell
me, hey, you're going to do this.
And that could get me sexually aroused.
But we, we just don't. I just can't really do it.

(21:47):
It's embarrassing. I wish I could, but just can't.
Yeah, it's a sad situation. It really is.
Ultimately, you're gonna have tomake a a decision that's gonna
have to impact yourself and her life.
Yeah. And I've been, you know, I've
talked to my counselor about that and I know that if, if
things do plays, you know, I've got a, it's, I've got a lot set

(22:11):
up for her because I do love herand want to still be friends.
But, you know, there's, but I made sure no matter what, that
she's going to be taken care of.So I mean, I've, I've got, let's
just say I've got a hefty nest egg put away that it's, we do
split. She won't have to probably do
anything the rest of her life. That's wonderful for you to do
that, you know, again, have you maybe thought tell her, hey, let

(22:35):
me bring a guy home for you? Would you like to see her have
sex with another man? Almost definitely like.
Exactly. But she I have tried that and
she doesn't want to. She's even even in this light
with Whitney, she still doesn't want a polyamorous type
relationship. So I mean, she'd rather us be

(22:56):
monogamous and not have sex thanyou know, So it's, I mean, I'm
still working on it to see because like, I mean, heck, if
she was like, hey, I'm, I'm going to suck somebody's Dick to
get the house clean before I gethome, Lord, I would be so happy.
Like that would be heaven, you know, and then she'd come home,
tell me about it. Then I probably would want to

(23:18):
fuck her, you know, but but it'sa lot of, it's a lot of very
unstable bridges I'm trying to cross, you know, so.
That is, it's difficult. I find the more that you put in
towards your relationship, you know, women do waver.

(23:38):
You know, they, they ultimately they give in.
You know, if they truly love their partner, you know they're
going to do what makes them happy on so many levels.
You know there has to be an equal compromise between you and
her. Yeah, and, and I have made a
little progress, like I said, with being able to have female

(23:58):
friends and, you know, and I'm, I'm fixing to have the talk with
her that I want to, you know, goto a friend of mine's, you know,
go out of town, maybe to a friend's house.
And I'm just going to have a girls weekend and dress up.
And I'm not even going to bring men's clothes at all.
So even if, you know, she wants to go somewhere like to lunch or

(24:18):
something like that where I haveto wear that, like that's.
And so I'm going to, I'm going to talk to her and be like, hey,
I really do need this and just see what happens.
Yeah, I totally understand that.I totally do.
Like I said, you're more than welcome to come down here.
You know, I'm happy to give you an entire weekend of any type of

(24:43):
fun you want to do. We will do it.
Yeah, I will. I will hopefully take you up on
that for sure. I would love to do that with
you. So and then of course, you know,
as long as I can clean and do chores.
Oh absolutely. And maybe suck some cock for me
and. Whatever you want, honestly, I
mean literally, it'll be whatever you want as long as I'm

(25:06):
dressed up and you make me, It'sliterally whatever you want me
to do. I mean absolutely.
And that's how I love to be. I love to, I literally just want
to serve a woman. Like I literally want to do
whatever she whatever she asks. Like that's that's what makes me
happy. That's what makes me feel my
purpose. Like, yeah.
And as long as I can dress up like I literally whatever it's,

(25:28):
it's my happiness is being able to accomplish things for others,
you know, and let them enjoy it.You know, if a woman loves
seeing a Sissy suck a cock, wellthen I'll do it.
If she wants me to take a cock, well, I'll take one like it.
You know, as long as she's happy, then I'm happy.
Love it, couldn't make me happier.

(25:50):
Yes, and we can match our kids. Exactly, but my feet have gotten
smaller, so you're going to haveto give me a new pair.
What size do you wear now? I'm like a nine.
I used to be a 10. I'm back.
I'm like a 90. Honey, I'll wear size, you know,
9 to 10 roughly because remember, I wore 10's and I

(26:11):
think those kids I got, you werean 11.
They were, yeah. We can still put them to good
use, but I'll get you an. Yeah, give me a new pair.
I'd like them in red or pink, just FYI.
I've got a pair size 9 in pink, so I'll get you I'll I'll, I'll
bring those to you and I'll get you some red ones.
Perfect. It'll get you any shoes you

(26:32):
want, man. Oh, look at you.
Come on now. But I weren't married.
But we'll go to the salon, we'llget all our nails done and like
I said, we'll get some cocks lined up.
I'm down to clown, you know me. Yes, ma'am.
And if you honestly, if you havea party or something and you
want to make me serve for it, I will, you know?

(26:56):
Well, so I'm, I'm having one that is going to be like a
commitment ceremony for some friends the 13th of next month.
And then after that I'm doing one probably in November.
So it's entirely up to you. OK, well I would love that.
Like I think too, like if you ever like I would, and I'd

(27:18):
probably honestly, I would, I would fund the whole party.
If you just had a bunch of girlsover there and I just had to
serve them, we could do like a kid's party.
I'm just kidding, hey. We can do that.
Serious. You think I'm.
Yeah, I'm down. I would not complain about that
at all. Well, we'll, we'll figure it out
and I'll buy have whatever ladies want to come.

(27:39):
I'll buy their kids and their size and then we can just have a
little, little party. All right.
But but yeah, I'm, that's, that's the stuff I need.
That's what I need to kind of, you know, fulfill my happiness.
Wonderful, but I can still gropeyou and feel your abs.
Oh, 100%. OK, and I'll call you my sweet

(28:01):
sexy little girl. Play with your Dick while you
suck a cock. We'll be down.
Well, can we call it a clip because it just makes.
Yeah, we'll call it a clip. Thank you I'm.
Sure, it's not that big now is it?
The cages have really helped it shrink a little bit.
Too perfect and I want to get into a flat cage.
I found one that's got vagina lips on it.

(28:23):
It's all. That the pink ones.
Oh yeah, I love it. But yes, but whatever, whatever
you want, like I said, whatever you want to do, like I'll
anything. Let's do it.
Yes, ma'am. So, but I'll say yeah, so we'll

(28:43):
definitely. And then like, oh God, Ked's
party would be soap on. You got it.
We'll do it. And don't worry, I won't be
trying to kiss all their kids so.
I'll share you. Yes, ma'am, I'm going to.
Share you sexy bitch. Why not?
That's a fact. It is.

(29:04):
It's true. And I'm telling you.
You know how many of my friends would love to fucking grope you
and do dirty things to you? Yeah.
Why is that? Just because.
Just because they love fucking crossdressers?
Oh yeah? Well, lovely.
Well, I need to meet them too then, yeah.
You do? Yeah.
We can do a sexy scene, we can spank you.
We'll do all sorts of dirty things to you.

(29:26):
Smell literally whatever y'all want to do.
All right, I can't wait. So thank you for joining us as
always. And until then, this has been
the latest episode of Call Me Mistress.