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Episode Transcript

(00:09):
Hi, welcome to the latest episode of Call Me Mistress.
I'm your Hostess, Mistress Mia, and I've got with me the Pope
Popinator. Good morning, everyone.
So ho, we're here to talk about several things, but one thing is
you got to do a session with Madame Liv.

(00:30):
But you weren't little PO. A lot of fun getting to play a
different character and a different route, you know, in
the in the dungeon. Yeah, you and I were thinking,
we talked about different roles and and how it would be if once
you did that role, we thought, OK, you're going to top
somebody. So are you like service top?

(00:53):
No, you felt like a Dom like in there.
You did it. It was, it was a lot of fun to
see it, like said, from the other part of the perspective of
being able to provide that that service or that feeling.
Yeah. For someone, yeah.
It was both, honestly. Yeah, because we did that, that

(01:13):
scene for Fucked Up Friday, right?
And they're going to be seeing that next week.
It's awesome that that was a lotof fun.
Then you're going to do it. Yeah, you, you did some
electrical plague, a lot of electrical plague.
It was definitely a shocking experience.
It was right, you did some impact and he was just on cloud

(01:34):
9 when he left. He really was like, yes, the.
Endorphins were going, yeah. Dopamine, like you could just
see it. Yeah.
In his, his face, he was smiling.
Like, you know, it was a lot, yeah.
It was crazy. It was.
It was, yeah. So we were there.
Dragon Ling saw it. She and I were like, oh, look at

(01:57):
this. This is wow.
This is a whole new side becauseit brought out a different side
to. You It really did.
And you, you felt a little empowered there, didn't you?
It was, it was definitely like Isaid, empowering, but like I
said, I, I just really enjoyed that I know what I get from a
session whenever I'm playing, you know, the, the submissive
role. And it was just very nice to be

(02:20):
able to put that energy back into the world, into another
person. I think that's what really got
me like, OK, that they're reallyenjoying this.
Let me keep pushing and pushing and pushing it and just see if
they're very similar to me and they just keep rising the
occasion and, and he did. The dopamine just gets higher
and higher and it's a shared experience.
He did. He liked it a lot.
He really enjoyed it. And I'm it's always more fun

(02:41):
when you're playing off someone and you're doing that kind of
scene where it's, you know, you're full doming in both
modes. There's no a lot of give or
take. It was more or less like both of
you were just kind of going in full force with it, right?
Because it was a fucked up Friday, right?
It wasn't supposed to be this prolonged hour of, you know,
Eroticism and, you know, fantasy.

(03:04):
But it was fucked up Friday. He was in there for a reason, to
see how far he could take it, topush his boundaries.
And you all. It lasted a whole 16 minutes.
Yeah. Yeah.
That's what I was thinking. I was like 18 minutes or so.
But yeah, but yeah, he but he, he he took it like a champ and
he took a lot. He did.
I was, I was very impressed he did.

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And you know, I told you when hecame in that he was, he's one of
those pain sluts who could just really take it.
He proved it. Yeah, a very beginning of the
session. You know, whenever he, you know,
he, he let out a certain laugh and I couldn't help but look at
Madame, Levin said. I know that.
Laugh, you know that. Laugh for sure.

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Yeah. Don't you find it so
interesting? You know, I've never bottomed
for anybody and I've never done that in the dungeon.
I've never had the desire, right, to be submissive.
It's just not in me, OK. And I often heard from my peers
over the years, they're like, you know, a Dom really makes a
great Dom when they've subbed before.
And I said, well, you know, maybe that's true for a lot of

(04:07):
people, right? But in my case, I just to me, I
read, I read the room, I read the person.
Yes, you know, I try to gauge the person enough to know what
they want. And I think it's just a level of
connection. If you can if you can vibe with
the person, you get active response.
Yes, yes. All of that plays into it.

(04:28):
Oh, definitely. So I don't think I have to be a
sub to really experience no. You know, I don't think it's a
necessary requirement, you know,on either part of it.
I just have to enjoy both sides of the equation and I always
thought that I would enjoy, you know, being the top, but I
didn't quite know for sure. But after that night, I
definitely know for sure. I really agree with you on that

(04:50):
because seeing a different side of you, it was just like OK, I
am not PO right now, I'm not little PO, I'm not regular PO, I
am Master Viper. Master Viper and I'm in charge.
That's Robbie and that is I really, really, I think it's to
me, I have had a lot of doms that have wanted to come to the

(05:13):
dungeon to see people and to explore BDSM and I have to tell
them all the time. Be humble.
You know, you're always going tolearn.
You know, it's really something that you can get in there and
you feel so empowered, right, that you just like you said,
hey, I control. This is where I this is what I
do and so. But it was nice being with with

(05:36):
Madlib because, you know, I could also feed off of her
energy and go, OK, I can, I can see what route we should take it
at this moment and may have a little bit of side talk at the
same time to go, OK, let's, you know, let's try this, let's try
this. So she was a very, I was very
lucky to have her as a guide there as well to kind of give me
some input here and there. Yeah.
She's God, She's so creative. She is.

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She really is. And it's, you know, she had said
something and I just, this is another thing that I just love
about her is that there's not any jealousy with her.
There's not any meanness in her.There's no spite, no vindiction,
nothing in her mind. She is.
It's like the purest, kindest person that that she has and the

(06:18):
thoughts that she has. And, you know, we did a session
yesterday with someone. Yeah.
And she came up with this great little thing.
And it. It's amazing how she'll take
something so simple and turn it into something that just really
sets the tone. OK For the same.
Yeah. At the very beginning, this
gentleman told us that he wasn'tinto impact.

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He really didn't want a lot of pain.
And, and I'm thinking, I see that look in your face because
you're thinking the same thing. If Madame Lib is conducting the
session, you're going to have toexperience some level of
threshold of pain, are you? You know, because it's, it's all
about a, a balance of, of pleasure and pain it.
And if you don't have a little bit of pain, then you can't

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appreciate the the great amount of pleasure that also goes.
Exactly, my my way of doing things is that I've always put
pain at the same time as pleasure so that they can kind
of like engross the person at the same time.
Can you can you give me an example of?
Well, like doing anal play, OK, And then truly, and this is what

(07:22):
it's something I did with this gentleman, I was doing a little
bit of anal play with, like milking his prostate, OK, At the
same time I was choking him. Oh.
OK, gotcha. OK, you see?
So I was like, OK, I'm gonna choke him a little bit.
I'm gonna pull the collar. I'm gonna do this.
And it was for those people who have not done this to experience

(07:43):
this. But when you have your fingers
in someone's asshole. All great conversations start
with when you have your fingers in someone's asshole, yes.
And and you feel them relaxing as you're doing this, but the

(08:03):
moment you go to choke them, it's like you feel his, his, his
ass kind of like contracting like, but it was a back and
forth and we played him like a fiddle.
He loved it. And it's something that when we
do a session like this, the nextday or the night of, they're

(08:24):
blowing up my phone, they're texting me, they're emailing me.
Mistress Mia, can we do this next time?
Can we do this? There's so much I want to try.
And I'm like, this is great, this is great.
Yeah, he's tasted the the life, tasted the the drug and it is,
you know, I'm hooked. Let's you know what's what's my

(08:45):
next dose? And, you know, how can we alter
that dose a little bit? I get it.
Yeah, you use those statements, but it's true because we often
say, and I know Charles always used to stay, you know, he needs
his medicine. I truly didn't understand that
concept when I first heard it after I really started thinking
about it. And I'm going with it's a drug.

(09:06):
It's. But what's what's?
Yeah. He's right.
It is. It's a drug.
But that's OK, because to me, ifit's that kind of drug that you
can handle and that you enjoy and you can control and you're
in a safe space and doing so, you know what are the negative
effects? I can't see any, you know, I
said it's not something that, you know, it's, it's a very

(09:29):
taboo thing out there for peoplewho have not experienced it or
have not, you know, had any kindof exposure to the scene.
So I can see it from, you know, some movies aspects and all that
kind of stuff of, you know, stuff that's just been imprinted
in the rain, but not any of thatstuff.
And since coming to the dungeon,a lot of the videos I used to
watch, I can't even really watchanymore.
Something like that. It's not like that.

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And I'm happy like with that because like I said, I thought
it would be completely different, you know, with, with
impact play and that type of thing.
And the time I experienced it was like, no, this version is a
lot better. There's a gentleman that we
interviewed a couple of years ago, and it was Sergeant Miles,
OK, and his girlfriend, and they're both porn stars, OK.
He's actually a former military and he started a porn production

(10:13):
company, OK, not too far from here.
And the scenes that he does, he sets them up in a way that it's
a lot of two guys on girl, you know, 2 girls on guy and there's
he's very bisexual. OK, so there's, you know, game
gay porn aspect of it as well. Very attractive man.

(10:35):
But what he does is a lot of forced stuff, OK, and it's
correlates all with BDSM. I've seen him do some impact,
but it's like you said, it's notalways like that.
It's totally different. I think that porn always builds
things up. They don't really show all the

(10:56):
things that can go wrong, right?And when we did the scene with
Liv and I, we get to this point where, you know, he enjoys the
impact to a point, but he reallycan't take it past this
threshold. He loved the anal play, but I
had his knees buckling. He could not take so much more
of this. And so at this point, we're

(11:17):
already rounding up to 45 minutes.
You know, it's like, OK, what should we do with this little
boy? And when I say little boy, he's
just a young inexperienced, you know, 20, 425 year old guy.
And he's little. He's like 5-8 and probably 140
pounds, 130 lbs live. Thought, OK, I'm going to put

(11:41):
him on this chair and we have that little toilet training
chair and it's maybe a foot and a half off the floor, the
little. Brown One.
Yes. So we sat there and she put him
right below this really thick, heavy chain.
I like where this is going. Yeah, yeah.
And she took a leash and wrappedit around his neck and then

(12:05):
attached it to the larger chain.OK.
And she told him she's like, youcan lean forward or you can lean
backwards, but either way you'rein charge of your chain.
That's clever. Right.
It's very clever. It was.
That's a that's a Madame Lid move.
It's exactly. And so we sat there, we're both
sat on the couch and she and I are both in awe with this

(12:27):
because he would like close his eyes and you could tell it was
like on the verge of like passing.
And we told him, you want to play with your clip, Go ahead
and play with your clip. We're just going to sit here and
watch. And he kept sinking deeper and
deeper into this mindset. And I told him, I said, you
know, you're probably the first one who's ever done that.

(12:48):
And then you're the first one who's ever done that and not
looked at Madame Liv or I And then of course, because he's
closing his eyes. Yeah.
And I'm like, why wouldn't you want to look at these two hot
doms in front of you? It was strange.
Well, it could have been that hecouldn't focus jaw and you know,
stimulate his clit at the same time and get the reaction that
he wanted. He.

(13:10):
Was, you know, that was his, hisnervous, you know, nervousness
coming out, can't do this while other people were actually
staring at me. It could have been and when he
was doing that, he then he wanted to look at us.
I'm like don't look at us It's 1of those like those under under

(13:32):
the eyes looks like whoa yeah itwas like oh God.
Well, that's not creepy at. All I practice that look, come
on, Like when I'm going through a mask, when I'm knobbing, I'm
like, yeah, that's the look you want.
Not the look you want from yourself though.
So Needless to say, I thought, gosh, you were just in the other

(13:54):
room while we're doing this scene.
And I, I'd even asked him, I said, would you like a male Dom
to come in here? And he's like, no, no, not, not
this time. That's because of how much
impact play Madam was giving him.
I don't know if you gotta have your hand.
Definitely not, because I definitely heard some impact
going on in there. Oh yeah.

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Oh, yeah, and she got a reactiontoo.
But see, what she did was when she did the impact for a little
bit, I was like, OK, I'll step in.
I'll do a little the the milkingpart of it.
And so I was stimulating his prostate and I'm talking to him
about the fantasy. And I said to him, you know, you
want you want some black man in here to fuck you.
And he's like, Oh yeah, you knowthat that's his fantasy.

(14:37):
OK, so. Nothing wrong with that.
Nothing wrong with that. That's it.
And he, you know, he wants to bedressed up as a woman.
So we we dressed him up. He was sexy.
And at the very beginning of thesession, we made him do a little
striptease, OK? And I told him I'm like, yeah,
grab that big chain. I want to see you turn around,
you know, spin it out, OK. And then Liv's like, yeah, shake

(14:58):
your booty, you know? That's great and.
Hilarious. It's and I'm like, oh, Liv,
we're in a strip club right now,baby, you shake that.
You know, it was great. It was great.
We took some videos and picturesof him.
OK, he liked it, he really did. But now I'm thinking at this

(15:19):
point, you enjoyed that scene somuch with pup Sage, right?
And he was a very willing participant.
You're going to do the next Fucked Up Friday with him again.
Definitely. And I think we put you on the
site. I would love that, right?
I would love that. I think that, you know, I still
have some, some education that Ineed to kind of get in there,
but certainly I think this is a great place to, to be able to,

(15:41):
to explore that. He said it's it was amazing, you
know, the first time. And like I said, I, you know,
live my life by chapters and this is a brand new chapter and
I really like this story. Good.
I'm glad it's a good way. Like you said, evolution.
That's exactly it. Evolving and evolving.
And you're not evolving, you're dying.
So exactly. Like a shark in water.

(16:01):
That's it. Just keep swimming.
Just keep swimming. Thank you, Jory.
You know, but yeah, I think thathaving somebody as a new Dom in
there, it's always fun. And I remember we have this one
gentleman, Goodness, He he's another guy.

(16:23):
He's wants to be a Sissy. But the moment I gave him to
live, he was just like, I don't want to be a Sissy.
And I'm like, what? She tells me this after because
I wasn't in there during the session, right?
And I said that little bitch andshe's like, yeah, he he didn't
want to dress up for me. I said, oh, he didn't want to be
considered less than. And she's like, I told him I'm

(16:45):
Liv does not get into humiliation or degradation,
right? You know this, right?
I know this. You know, that's why I'm in
there half the time for her withthe other people, right, right.
You know the guy yesterday I wasspitting on him and calling him
all these names, right? So you, you know, I enjoy it.
I think it's fine. Yeah, everybody has.
Everybody has their style. They do.
You know, like I said, if you can get 2 chefs in the kitchen

(17:08):
to milk combine their secret ingredients ma'am.
Make a masterpiece. That's it.
Well, he was roasted duck yesterday.
Why he was cuz his ass was red. Yeah.
But I saw him afterwards. He was, you know, grinning from
ear to ear. So God, yeah, looks like he had
a good time, yeah. You know, it's, it's interesting

(17:29):
too, when I've had so many people, they have, they've
traveled out of state to come here.
They have, they've gone through so many things, so many
obstacles to try to get here. I had one guy even hitchhiked
one time. Well, that's.
Yeah, that's hardcore. That's.
Hardcore and I'm glad that he was able to get here and and do
that because that's that shows almost a desperation of needing

(17:51):
that out True, and that's that'sspecial. 100% I had another
gentleman and he's like, yeah, Istarted early this morning, but
it took me about a couple of hours to walk here.
I'm like, how many miles are we talking?
He's like, I don't know, maybe 12:15.
I don't know. I'm like, holy shit, can I drive

(18:13):
you home? Yeah, Can I drive you home,
dude? Yeah, that's like I said, that's
it's a dedication. Yeah.
But like I said, just goes to show you the kind of stuff that
goes on here that, you know, people are getting that
fulfillment. So they are willing to literally
walk the extra mile to to get here exactly to be able to
experience that. And that's just a a high praise

(18:33):
for the the organization. Well, I thank you for that.
And now you're part of it, right?
That's. I love it.
That's one of the reason why I've want to be involved here is
because I know you know yours way that you'll operate and the
whole theory behind why you do what you do.

(18:54):
And it's a therapeutic experience.
And you know, we're just here tomake those fantasies become a
reality. Absolutely.
Because overall, you know, it is, it's about their well-being,
it's about what they enjoy. And it was interesting.
I'll tell you this, I didn't getto tell you this today, but last

(19:14):
night I went to dinner with my family and my eldest sister.
She's really have has always been against what I do.
And I told her I said, you know,oh so long ago when I was a part
of the family business and everything else, I still was
doing what I do and she didn't even like it.
Then I said, look, I did it backin the day because it's always

(19:38):
been my calling and we've alwaysdealt with a lot of people that
have had a lot of issues. And I feel this is something I
could really help people and whywe do it.
You know, it's not as if I'm a doctor.
I can't prescribe medicine, but this is their form of therapy,
right? And it was interesting because
last night when we're talking, my niece said something to me.

(20:02):
And she's like, yeah, she says. She said there was a friend of
mine through work that came in and told us that they found her
nephew and he had pretty much died having BDSM.
Leather straps on him. He was in full gear and he had a

(20:28):
chain around his neck, rope around his neck.
He had something to the effect. She didn't give all the details,
but I said, well, was it erotic asphyxiation?
And she says, actually, they think he landed or excuse me, or
pushed in this dildo so far thatit ruptured and he bled out on

(20:49):
top of going out with the bang, with the rope or the chain
around his neck, either way. But he died that way.
And my niece was like, you know,her husband stepped in and was
like, you know, there's safe spaces you can go, but so many
people don't realize that. Yeah, they don't realize that
are they just, they're so ashamed of that taboo subject

(21:12):
that they're only wanting to do it behind closed doors.
But yeah, so there's people out there that, you know, they're so
ashamed or they just can't accept, you know, taboo or the
cultural things that are out there about what they're doing
that they just say hi. And unfortunately things like
this can happen. You know, that's why, you know,
I adore, you know, that I've heard you, you know, tell the

(21:33):
the ladies here, hey, CPR classes, that kind of stuff is
always a great thing to know. And that that tells me, again,
this is a safe environment. If something happens, there's a
plan in place to be able to get us out of that, you know, get
out of that situation and 100%. Yeah.
So that just shows your level ofcommitment like to safety.
Well, people have always asked me, you know me, is there a

(21:54):
Safeway to do breath play? There's really not a Safeway to
do breath play, right? There's really not.
And everything that that you cando in the dungeon, it can be
detrimental, right? It could be dangerous, right?
On so many levels, right? You know, sounding rods, this
can be dangerous, electrical, dangerous, bondage, dangerous,
all these things. So it's something that I always

(22:14):
tell the ladies that come to thedungeon and the men who come to
the work in the dungeon, right? You know, it is CPR.
Know that if you're going to do breath play, it is, you know,
it's like we had certain people to come in and teach basic
points in bondage. We're not to tie people up.
Right. There's there's things to do,
things not to do right, but to try to learn something all the

(22:37):
time about the craft. Yeah.
And just just always be preparedbecause we've had we've had
scenes where they've gone, they've gone awry very quickly.
We had a gentleman and you know,he was elderly guy and he, he
came in and we put him on the cross.
I had asked him like I asked everyone that comes in there.

(22:57):
Are you on any medications? Do you have any allergies?
Any history of diabetes? Do you have you know, low blood
sugar high blood sugar are you what medication are you on,
right? Are they addicted to latex?
Are. Allergic to latex?
Yes, when I say. She said addicted to Latex.
But I mean, either way, that's aplausible question to ask when

(23:20):
you're coming. To this place, Yes.
Yes. Are they addicted?
Are they allergic? Yes.
Addicted slash allergic. That's great, but I've asked
them, you know, have you ever passed out?
Have you ever had seizures? Right.
Heart attack, anything like thatto help us out?
Yeah. Well, this gentleman, I don't

(23:42):
like to play with elderly people.
It's a very. It's scary.
I could you get it? I could see that you get it,
grandparents and you know, it's yeah, yeah, I definitely would
have my reservations, right. Yeah, I always have my
reservations. And honestly, anyone over 40

(24:03):
who's had blood pressure issues,right, I never put their arms
above their head. Okay?
You just you don't wanna take any risks and I don't like to
take risks like that. That makes perfect sense.
I've never even thought about that.
But that makes circulation problems, yeah.
Absolutely. And so ultimately this gentleman
came in and he passed out from the cross.
Now, this man's like 6 foot 5, big, tall but skinny man, right?

(24:28):
And I was in there with my associate at the time.
This is way before I met Liv, this is years ago.
And he passed out and then he avoided his bladder.
Wow. And yeah, that's a.
Serious pass it. Was serious passing and I felt
his heart rate. He had a very slow heart rate.

(24:49):
It was very scary, very quickly,and we assessed everything, took
care of him. And I even said, hey, look, you
know, I want you to stay here with me for the hour.
Yes. Yeah.
Yeah, don't get behind the wheelright now.
It's. You know it happened twice with
him. He passed out a second time.
Wow. Yeah.
And so ultimately I asked him, He's like, yeah, I'm blood

(25:10):
pressure medication. And then And then he told me
that he took a Viagra. Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding.
Yeah, that's not the not the best combination.
Of. Medical history to have and and
don't get me wrong, you could have that medical history.
Just tell somebody you know that's.
You know, the dominators you're coming to see.
It's, you know. But I told him, I said, you

(25:32):
know, we're not prostitutes, so you don't have to have a hard
on. Yeah, just get enough to go
here. You know, we don't we don't do
the things that that hard on wants us to do so.
I told him I'm like you because,you know, he immediately got
Iraq and I told him I said trustme with you having that.

(25:52):
We're not doing anything with that, right?
Maybe it was one of those situations where it just didn't
work very often and he's like, Ijust wanted y'all to know.
It does. Work.
Exactly. And let me tell you the manpower
behind that 10 incher. That was an impressive man
piece, I can tell you that much.It wasn't yours, Justin.

(26:14):
You said 10 inches, yeah, not 10centimeters.
No, no, not at all. It was it was 10 plus inches and
shit was almost a foot long. Hey, $5 foot long.
Exactly. Sorry, ever since I got
perverted, the subway commercials, they just they mean
something totally different to me at this point.
I agreed. Agreed.

(26:37):
So anyway, but yeah, you just, you just always want to be
cautious and safe and, and just do the best you can always do.
That's the goal. That's that's it like I said and
just continue learning and you notice something ask questions.
Don't be afraid of you know thisdidn't work out too well this
time. What could I do next time that
they're a little differently close minded people.

(26:59):
I don't think we do. They're dangerous in yeah, in
thing in situations of this nature.
Yeah, to where what they know iswhat should be done.
And instead of just going hey should I do?
Is this okay? And it's definitely a process.
It is definitely a process and I'm glad that we met.
I'm glad that you came to the dungeon and.
The best decision of my life. I know it's a really decision.

(27:22):
Really it was. It was great and it's been great
and we have many more years of fun in the dungeon.
That's it. Let the good times roll.
Exactly. And so Mr. Viper, you want to
close this out because they're going to be ready to see you in
the dungeon. Anybody wants a good Dom?
Ladies, gentlemen, anyone looking for a good session, they

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need to try Master Viper becausehe's precise.
He's going to be really good at his craft.
We're going to have some fun. I was going.
To say because you've had any lessons from Matt and.
Lou it's it's I definitely have those, those weekly sessions are
are definitely coming in hand. These days we won't be paying
off, aren't they? Saying.
All right, so until then, this has been the latest episode of

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Master Viper of. Call me Mistress.