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July 11, 2025 • 56 mins

MIA AND THE CREW COME TO THE MIC TO DISCUSS ALL THE DADDY ISSUES THAT REALLY COMPLICATE D/S RELATIONSHIPS. DO WE LOOK FOR DADDIES? DO WE HAVE A PATTERN IN THE PARTNERS WE SEEK.. YOU TELL US YOUR STORY.

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(00:06):
Hi, welcome to the latest episode of Call Me a Mistress.
I'm your Hostess, Mistress Mia, and I've got with me the one the
only. Let him live.
Hi guys, got my coffee today. I love the British, it suits you
so well. Thank you.
I haven't. Practiced that one yet?

(00:27):
See, I always did two types of British.
It's the Dragon Ling version, which is oh, darling, we talk
like this. It's so eloquent.
And she's from Manchester. And then the other one is the
white trash British. It's.
Hey, would you like some tea? You from bits, you fucking
wanker? There.

(00:47):
I like it. Yeah.
You know, a lot more soccer, a rock.
Soccer. What's a soccer?
Soccer is your football. Oh yeah, you would say football.
Yeah, I would say football, but you know what?
Like you live. Football.
My suck, I'll call it. I'll call it foosball.
Bobby. No, he's the water boy.

(01:11):
That's the devil. That's.
There you go. You know Adam Sandler is going
on tour right now. Oh, as what?
As himself. Doing standing.
Oh, yeah, doing standing. Don't look at me like she was.
She was young. She was so young when he was
doing stand up. It was just a questionable.

(01:32):
No, no, it's that well. He could have been doing
anything. Thank you.
And PO is again. He is here introducing PO, the
PO, nater possession the PO. Nater that's that's a new one,
the echo. It's all over me.

(01:53):
Oh no. That's exactly what I was
thinking of. Like a tomato, potato, bacon,
lettuce and pomader sandwich. I mean, yeah, I come into your

(02:17):
life. I'm like a tornado.
Like a Wrecking Ball? Yeah.
How about the Expo? There we go.
Expo markers. They erase easy, so be careful.
That hurt more than the shot caller.

(02:42):
Oh, I'm sorry, I'm in. We have made this Damn she just
jab into your heart each time. Like damn.
Yes, it's the Poemia show today.Motherfuckers.

(03:08):
I know it sounds like I'm poor. Pull me.
Up. You gotta hang out with that
dude. You know what I've had worse
said about me? I'll take it.
Well, you know, there's more to come.
Don't worry, sometimes. They just come into my mind and
I don't know what I'm saying. I realize that.

(03:30):
I realized, I think the people have realized that too.
I think they have because you talk just randomly about shit
like how many things can I stuffin my vagina?
I had to go in and fish it out, like come on, PO.
I burped the baby doll, you knowwhat I mean?
Like it's just like, thank you. It's very entertaining, hey.

(03:53):
I love it. You did not do that in your
life, didn't do weird things in there.
No, I didn't. I I love you but.
No, I don't have one so. I'm sure you have when you would
stick things in it I. Probably would, yeah.
I'm just honest. You know, the strangest thing I
did as a lowly little Catholic girl when I was a kid is I loved
baby dolls. I loved my dolls.

(04:15):
I, you know, I always dress themup just like guys.
I'm sure growing up they had like, GI Joe, that kind of
stuff, you know? And then, you know, girls that
had Barbie dolls. Well, I had my dolls.
I love Cabbage Patch dolls. I still love Cabbage Patch
dolls. I think they're great.
My sister's a huge fan. She still has all of hers.
Yes, the 80s, yes. And I love them, I really do.

(04:36):
My husband, he was sweet. He surprised me on two different
occasions, you know, for birthday or something.
Or rather with Cabbage Patch doll.
But it's sweet. But anyway, I think the weirdest
thing as a kid I ever did was I would organize my dolls in a
Manger scene. Like I had baby Jesus.
And I'm telling you, this is what we do.

(04:56):
Catholic school, you know, I'm thinking Christmas time.
I made it as a stage like all mydolls, because I had probably.
Sounds really creepy. Yeah, I made it as a Jesus
Manger. No, but they're all like dolls.
Just like, yes, one of their eyes closed and.
No, they were cute. They're all like Cabbage Patch.
And now I have delicate babies. I could see you.

(05:17):
Thank you, Poe. And that's why it's the Poe and
Mia show today. Fuck you, Liz.
Thank you. All right.
Let me go get some stumping something so you can like shove
it up in your something. Something to watch today.
As long as you got Lube, I'm good.
Poke into that spoon right there.
Scoop out all the babies leftover the last time.

(05:43):
I will say before we start that,you know, I told Liv, I said,
took your advice and I have thisthis stuff that I've had for
many years and we never really made it official.
It wasn't like a collar or anything crazy.
But you know, he'd come to see me when he could.
He eventually got married the past year, but with his job, he

(06:04):
travels, he works for the government, etcetera, etcetera.
So he's limited. So I said, let's do, we'll take
Liz's advice, we'll do an onlinejournal.
So we did the online journal andit was funny because he said,
what is your first assignment for me?
I said, well, for one, I want you to write in your journal
whenever you feel compelled to just put out your thoughts out

(06:26):
there because he knows that withme there is no judgement and
that we could talk about anything.
I said, you know, you could talkabout your work, your fantasies,
your life, your marriage, whatever you want to talk about.
Just consider me, you know, going back and forth with
therapy in the BDSM world, we can correlate anything.
It'd be fun. And then I said your second

(06:48):
assignment is to find things to shove inside your pussy hole.
Again I thought about. Live terrible sometimes it if
you got to make sure you have anend on that on that pussy hole
thing sure do because it get it gets stuck.
And then you don't want to. Have to bust that baby.
We were going to put a rod and pose ass and electrocute it, but

(07:09):
I thought about it. Wasn't going to do it 'cause I'm
thinking like it could get sucked up and be gone forever.
Yeah, we're. Not going to the doctor.
You could use one of those stuff, yeah.
I'm probably not going to the doctor.
I'm just going to die right there.
I don't. I'm not going through that
embarrassment. Use one of those female urethral
sounds. So I'm talking about there's
still like 6 inches I. Think he gets stuck up there We.

(07:31):
I would just stick it in his asslike 2 inches and then keep the
other part out. I'd rather just use the the male
ones male sounding. Around, but I think we we
figured out that, you know the. I could still put it.
In there, you know. That it doesn't.
They don't electrocute you. Yeah.
They're not conducted to your butt.
Butt hole in the inside. I don't know why, nor the the
penis. Yeah.
Yeah. So yeah, you can't electrocute

(07:52):
it and it go in there, which I thought was crazy because you
can have sex with it. So what does it do when you have
sex? I guess just maybe the touch of
your skin touching. Yeah, I'm sure it's.
Because like when the Dick goes in because if he was the
conductor or the male was the conductor, his penis goes into
the vagina right? I just assumed it would go.
God, no, I don't think. It's going to do.

(08:13):
That expressions I love her that's what I was going to tell
you the third thing Poe yes God thank you for acting like a goof
ass I. Love you, I love it.
Because she's doing this expression, I'm shot like she's,
I'm stronger in the chair, looking like there's seriously

(08:34):
something wrong with her. But what I was saying to Poe was
we had a new comment today and someone commented and said I
want more videos. Please.
That's it. That's it.
Please make more videos. And do you have any?
Videos on your foot. On my foot, yeah.
This was for the podcast. Oh.
I don't think I have any videos on my.

(08:56):
Oh, because of Master Viper? What are we talking about You.
Are so confused you're still thinking about stuff to stick
inside of you or stick inside for po Po again, this is the me
and Poe show all right me and. Poe I love that po po po po po

(09:17):
get. Away.
There's got to be some rappers. Yeah, it's the me and Poe coming
together. We're going to show you how we
flow. You know, I mean, there's like
there's, there's some good stuffthere.
The Me and Poe Show. I just said yeah.
Good job, I'm gonna give you that.
Happy. Yay.

(09:38):
Fuck Marshall Mathers when we need him.
Now, what I was going to say, your third project, yes, is
you're going to help Liv and I set up a camera again so that
the camera can be on her. You can remain private and we
can record an episode of her andI talking and you can help us

(10:02):
with new pictures for the episodes with for the podcast.
Perfect. Because we're still, we're like
kind of in limbo with with the last couple of photos.
Yeah, we need to look up like dominant women photos and just
get ideas because we have no inspiration.
We can only go off pictures. We know that work.
So just I would like something alittle bit new.
Fresh with us. I really think it'll be

(10:23):
simplistic. I think that it's a podcast just
for the podcast. Okay, okay, you're with you now.
Okay. I'm trying to figure out myself
where the pictures like to promote the podcast, but you're
talking about like basically a thumbnail.
Two picture. Yes, the one that we got.
Two things. No, I don't.
OK, Because it looks like I've got this excessive amount of

(10:44):
makeup on. Oh, OK.
And the way it you're positioned, it's not really.
It's like you're looking up at me and my titties are right at
your head. That's why she likes it.
That's why she. Likes it.
She's like. Boobies.
Titties. Sorry, that's the little indie.
I apologize. She did that to Dragonling in

(11:07):
the pool last week. I.
Know, you know and. See, we're all thinking like,
that's so sexy. And then she's like, oh, you can
feel them, but not with that little thing you just did.
And she's like Mama. You're no fun.
I can't help it when you see titties like that, you just
crumble into a baby. Yes, where?

(11:28):
They're they're nice looking. See, I don't crumble into a baby
again. I didn't have mommy issues.
OK, bitch, I'm sorry. Perfect childhood.
Yeah, childhood. You got breathed and was happy.
I. I don't know, with me.
Yeah, put it on her Zapper. I got the smaller one right

(11:51):
here. I'd imagine like a flash water
you have. That one little, you know,
electric flash water. She can't really go hard on it
though. You got to get it like.
You don't. You don't got to go hard with
it. Just touch your skin to that
metal. I can see it coming.
That's what I'm saying. She's going.
Well, you just wear the collar and I'll ZAP you on this collar.

(12:12):
The smaller one. Oh, OK, yeah, every time she's
asked me, you're getting zapped.Pose like you.
Know what I'm not? I'm not sure who's getting the
better of that deal. Thank you.
Thank you. I thought that was a good
suggestion. I like it.
Good. I'm with you.
See. I like it.
He's not a pussy. I didn't say that.

(12:32):
Big deal no? I'm just saying.
He couldn't have a big dog, big dog shit.
All right, look, we're going to get down to this episode now.
Ready. Yeah, I forgot it all right.
So this is daddy issues and the daddy issues and how it
correlates to everyday life. We can talk about that.
We're going to talk about how itcorrelates into BDSM and we use

(12:56):
how it correlates back with daddy issues and who we choose
in partners and how we're not addressing the dating scene and
who we're dating and potentiallydating and looking for daddies.
I can always start this because I'll tell you what's really
funny. So we got this cute little sub
that comes in and he's like 5-7.He's my type of guy.

(13:20):
He's 130 lbs and. That's when you're talking about
baby butt. Baby butt.
I've been calling him baby Butt.Baby butt slave and he has a
pretty name. Baby butt slave.
Yes, baby got butt. He was so smooth, it was like a
little baby scan. Yeah, it was really smooth.
I thought he could do ABDL. Totally.
He had the face and the body. He wants to try everything.

(13:44):
I'm sure he'll make him try everything.
It's funny because. I play with him.
Liv and I didn't. You said no blowing.
I didn't say I play with him that way.
I was talking about the ABDL thing, Liv.
You're sick. You're talking about adult
babies. So it really feels bad whenever

(14:05):
we're on a freak show right now and you're saying I'm the one
that's sick. Are we supposed to be non
judgmental? We will keep changing you.
It is not a safe space. But anyway, Liv and I, we did
this session with this really cool guy.
He's really sweet, 27 years old and he's just adorable.

(14:28):
And his pictures on fat. He had written me, you know, a
long time ago, talking about coming.
And finally he got to be here with Liv and I, and she and I
saw him and were like, we're going to do this together.
He wanted us both. So we're both like, oh, yeah, we
can own him as a slave. This is going to be fun.
We can share him. It's been fun.

(14:50):
So we were comparing notes with a lot of different things and
what we want to try. And ultimately, at the end of
the session, we were talking about him, and we're talking
about his facial hair now, I said, he's got this cute little
boyish look. He's wearing skater attire, you
know, with the little Vans and the T-shirt.

(15:10):
We're like, Oh yeah, so sexy. I like the beard though.
You, but yes he has a more defined jawline.
It looked good. Yeah, and see, I'm that one for
facial hair and. So we're like, we want to share
this sub but we don't dog. So like, it's fine.
You get him to shape half of hisface.

(15:31):
Oh my God. Yeah, you you get to look at
this half whenever he sucks like2 face from Batman and whenever.
Yeah, focus on. I'll focus on the left side,
left cheek. You focus on the right side,
right cheek. Yeah.
I think it can. Work OK, I call the right side
because there's a :) on that side.
Yeah, the :) on his ass, he's got a tattoo :) it's fucking

(15:52):
adorable. It's like the Nirvana thing.
Yeah, it's adorable. It's so cute.
And he has the cutest, juiciest butt.
It is. It jiggles when he walks it.
Jiggles We were doing a scene and I was like.
Like. Jiggling it and it was fun.
It was fun. Yeah.
Milk and this prostate that was great fun.

(16:12):
Lives in the front. I'm in the back.
In the front stuff, the back stuff was for you that.
Great. Like it was for you.
Yeah, like get it out of there. Oh my God.
I'm sorry that that's. Just it when you.
Try and get his balls out my back.
Well, he wouldn't get hard. And then I guess she touched him
in just the right way that it itgot hard immediately and I was

(16:36):
like, oh, that worked. But as it got hard, it come too.
I was like, oh, it really worked.
Yeah, whatever it was, she. She where's the button?
Where? Oh, there it is.
Yeah, she did it, Yeah. It's that divot you got to find
that prostate. I know where it's.
At but I went back there. But I don't rub it like she
does. She rubs it like a pro.
Look. Thanks, Liv.

(16:56):
Thanks, she said. That may be the sweetest thing
you've ever said to me. We've been in a booty hole
together. We have.
We have. I think one time you had like
you were touching a scrotum or his here for Edie you were
touching his grundle. And I.
Was touching his prostate and I said.

(17:18):
Oh. Liv, I feel you.
They could be very intimate for us some time you.
See. We're like, wow, I feel closer
to you right now. Yes, we're on either side of
this man, jacking them off together, looking at each
other's eyes like Oh my God, you're just so beautiful that.
Sounds like a great world it. Was.

(17:41):
It is. It is the first time it ever
happened. We were very uncomfortable with
it because, you know, I'm datingher nephew.
Yeah, but it was like, eventually it just became second
nature. We're just like, hey, come here,
we're getting this together. Yeah, come here, milk this cow.
Usually it's a cow. He is a cow we have.
To smack him in the titties. Justin.

(18:05):
I have not seen him in such a long time.
He needs to come when I run here.
My poor little baby Justin, he is working so hard.
So, so hard. So I told him today, you're
working so hard. And he said yeah, I'm making
that money for you, mistress. I said yeah, you're going to pay
for my nails today and my petty so we can give some give some
money to Madame Liv to get hers done too.

(18:26):
Cheers. Cheers.
We love you, Justin. You work hard and you lose that
weight, you fat. Fuck Yeah, Little.
Piggy, little piggy, where are you?
I was like Scooby Juice. I.
Was like I didn't. Know that got some weight to
lose now. All right, so daddy issues,

(18:57):
we're going to go back to this. But my point of it is Liv and I
were going back and forth with this guy because because I was
like, look, Liv just likes that old man beard because my nephew,
he's has the Gray patches over here on the side.
Oh my God, my favorite. And she loves that.
Shit, I love a little salt and pepper.
She loves that salt and pepper because she needs a daddy and

(19:20):
he's my daddy. He's your daddy and I don't.
I don't have those daddy issues.My dad always had the full
beard. It wasn't, it didn't grow long
like your boyfriend's, but it was just one big, thick black
beard. And you know, I never liked guys
that looked like my dad did. I didn't like guys that looked

(19:41):
old. I was like young guys that were
barely legal. What causes that?
What causes me liking younger men or vice?
What would be the vice versa equivalent?
Because it's not mommy issues. No, it's not mommy issues at
all. I blinks.
Well, I the way I view it, the way I feel is I'm very young at
heart and it makes me feel young.
That's what I was. OK, OK.
It makes me feel young. I don't feel my age.

(20:02):
I don't want to see myself at your age.
Thank you. I still feel the way I did in my
20s. And so we're going to stick to
that. I'm in my 30s so I'm older than
you. That's OK.
That's because I'd be tired of needing a nap.
Yeah. I asked.
Liv, what did you have? This morning for breakfast cuz
post starting to make us breakfast now and she's like oh

(20:24):
waffles? And then I had some ice cream
later. Oh my gosh breakfast for a 5
year old. I love it during the summer
time. That's why I'm tired.
I ain't got no green beans in there.
No, all right. Daddy issues.
Daddy issues now what I've seen in the BDSM scene, this is the

(20:47):
reason why you want all you all OK?
This is the reason you and all fuck me.
Fuck any fuck. You and all is that the new
medication for for something take you and all side effects
maybe it's. For your refill.
Bladder infections. Your shot effects should be
kneeling and fucking damn. I'm not taking that Med.

(21:10):
OK so so daddy issues in BDSM. I see this often.
I think This is why it would be a good thing for you all to
actually go to community events.I'm not pretend you don't even
know me because a lot of the community here, they don't like
me. Which is OK, I'm cool with that.

(21:31):
At least they pretend they like me.
People would recognize us thoughwell.
You know. I don't care, they cannot like
me too. They cannot recognize me.
I don't even what do I have a connection with these people.
I've never seen true that don't like you.
I don't. Care they cannot like me too.
I love because I'm standing nextto you.
I love that solidarity. But in the meantime, yeah, you

(21:52):
should go to local events and just check it out.
I. Think it'd be fun?
Yeah, you need to go because honestly these.
People want to be a sub out in public.
Yeah, but these people in the community, a lot of these female
Subs specifically, they always end up with old daddy Doms, all
of them. That's usually men too.
Men would go for the older. I, you know I.

(22:13):
Guess it's really just related to traumas of your parents.
I suppose so I it's. For like, vanilla's are so good
because they don't have any issues.
Yeah, that's what. They're boring though.
They're really fucking. Boring.
Yeah, I'm glad I was abused. I don't want to be boring like
you guys. He says I am what I am right?

(22:37):
I'm PO you. Go through the things you go
through to help other people. I truly believe that.
I do too. I mean, yeah, I've discussed
several times, you know, online with the different people and,
you know, say, you know, I'm working a dungeon, that kind of
thing. And they go, oh, that's all this
bad stuff. I'm like, no, if you saw like
the amount of like healing and empowerment that happens in this

(23:02):
place, I promise you would not view it the same way that you I
know currently view it. It's.
A sanctuary. Yeah, it almost to a point where
it's like I'm tired of it even having to say it trying to
understand it's not. We're not we're not like the
Bible thumpers who's like on theend of the road come to the.
Deck exactly, exactly, but you know, I might be willing to do

(23:26):
that. That would be fun.
You know, it's sit right next to, you know, one of the other
kind of. Precursors making your tab and
so yeah, that would be fun. All right, that would be
interesting, wouldn't it? Let's go do it.
Let's go with 9 miles. Across the road, go to heaven.
I'm gonna try it out next time aJehovah Witness comes to my
house. Try to convert him into yeah.

(23:47):
Yeah, let's go. Have we have a conversation.
Let's meet at the local dungeon.We'll have a conversation.
You know they always want. To be scared.
Or something like that to talk. Invited them in and gave them
food. And we never really talked about
Jesus, but we've invited him in.That's nice.
Had meals. That's that's good.
I like that. I go the alternative route and I

(24:07):
like to debate. And so they come and start
telling me what I posted. I'm supposed to view something,
you know, we getting a intellectual conversation.
Daddy issues, yes. Liv, when you dated, did you
find that you dated men that youwould potentially think of as a
father figure? I haven't really dated that

(24:29):
much. No, I know you didn't, but I
mean. But yes, I feel like I learn
more into like why I wear my granny panties and my big
T-shirts. Like I feel like a little kid
and I feel like I kind of fall into that a little bit more and
I want somebody that appreciatesand coddles me like a dad would.
Yeah, you had said the other dayyou even said to PO and I,
you're like, I really think thatthere's a little inside of me.

(24:51):
And we're like, yeah, we both had 0 hesitance on.
That yeah, yeah. Is it because of my mashed
potatoes? No, as she jiggles her tummy.
No, not at all. It's the cute obvious things
that you do. Obviously it's just like the
other day when you ate that thatsandwich and you're like, oh,
look at my belly. It's a big baby belly.

(25:13):
We gave it birth together. Oh my gosh.
It's the cute role play. It's the sweetness.
I mean it's almost like AI wouldsay like a 7 year old, but it's
really based on how you feel personally.
You know, that's funny because six years old is when my dad
died. Oh wow.
And I, I have literally, I have no recollection of that year.

(25:34):
I remember the years before and I remember the after, but I
remember that 6th grade year or that. 66 year old 6 year old
self. Yeah, wow.
Wow, I need some hypnotism here.We are learning things.
Isn't that interesting? Wow, OK, interesting.
So I mean, honestly, that could go back to a lot of things with,
you know, self coping and, you know, you feeling isolated and

(25:58):
not feeling well. I was going from an abusive
father to that father who was very affectionate, who died, and
then my mom got remarried to somebody who was anti
affectionate. So I was being pulled back and
forth through it. Yeah, their love.
Crazy. That's crazy.
Daddy, his shoes. Well, yeah, you know, it's a

(26:19):
touchy subject for a lot of people because a lot of times we
don't want to self reflect. But that's another great
characteristics about you I absolutely adore is that you
have zero problem with self reflecting.
I love that about you. Okay, I don't realize what I'm
doing you. Do you do, because you have, you
have 0 filter, you want to be completely transparent with

(26:40):
your, your friends and you know,you're completely honest about
it and you're always kind of like analytical.
So you're, you're constantly analyzing.
You know, we analyze other people, then we, we go back and
analyze ourself. But I have a harder time
analyzing myself because I'm like, I'm not, there's nothing
that exciting, but I can remember saying to.

(27:01):
Nothing that exciting about you.I know, but that's.
What I'm saying? I know that's what I'm saying in
my head and I don't I don't think that a lot of times I
don't think they're well, you know, whatever kind of deal, but
Dungeon Master masturbator, whatdo you whatever you know,
whatever you want to call me, I've never.

(27:23):
Seen that? Well, you know, I'm I'm
masturbating other people. How about that?
And I'll be on the one. Masturbator.
Exactly. Fine.
Exactly. I'll be on the one end and you
can be on the other. But I thought it was funny
because we were telling the slave we were just like, yeah,

(27:44):
you know, I told him. I said you, you capture your
youth. You're only 27.
Go back and like, really look youthful.
Take it all off and lives like, oh, no, leave it on, Leave it
on. Grab the beard, fill it out, you
know? It looked good short because it
made his drawing line look good.Yeah, not grow.
He wouldn't have looked good with a big beard because some

(28:05):
people can pull off the big beard, some people can't.
I don't think I could pull off the no.
Like the long I feel like you look really good with even right
now it's probably a little bit. Long.
It just a little bit long. I was actually thinking it needs
to be trimmed up a little bit, yeah.
Just something that just kind ofaccentuates your jawline.
Yeah. Some people can do it, some
people can't. I gotcha.
Well, it's it's funny because I've I've always liked my

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husband. He's.
He's my baby. Exactly.
It would be weird without a beard.
Don't do that. I don't care if you're a baby
with a Binky and a beard. Honestly, even when I shave it,
I'm like no grow back, grow back, grow back, put miracle
grow on it like I've done everything.
Yeah, it's almost instant regretevery time.
But every every like 3 or 4 years I do shave it completely

(28:49):
off just to see how I've grown into my face and that's.
Got to be wild to see yourself. It's.
Age it's it's like I said it's weird but I actually think at
this particular point I would actually look decent clean
shaven but it's only because I've lost weight and don't have
these chubby chubby chipmunk cheeks anymore I thought.

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You look good with like a goatee.
You know, maybe Mr. said that aswell.
And it's been thumping around inmy head, you know, to make us,
to make. Your face a little bit longer.
Take away the hair on your cheeks and just focus on the
center of your face. And it's summertime.
Maybe it grows back rather quickly.
Yeah. Maybe look up how to do it so

(29:34):
you don't cut too. Much out, I gotta go get my
actual haircut as well so. I would just go to it.
You know, a place where they cando it properly, show me how it's
supposed to look, and then I cango, OK.
Cool. Yeah.
I think it might be really distinguishing.
And then you can again, you justcolor it further, you know, or
just leave it all in lives like.A little bit of Gray on your
chest. You can't have a.
Maybe that's Gray. I mean, that's where I draw the

(29:55):
line. I'm with you PO.
I'm probably going to be 80 and still coloring my hair.
I'm just not going to have. It but your skin isn't aging so
to be fair. Oh well, thank you.
Isn't this? When you start to go a little
Gray in your hair, are you goingto color it?
Actually, when I start going Gray, I'll get the Gray streaks
in my hair so it looks better. OK, I was just like.

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Yeah, she's going to be happy with that.
My mom was always OK with aging.She's always excited for that
part of her life, so I got to watch her be excited for it, so
I'm not. Right, that was nothing to do
with aging. Has to do with your looks.
Yeah, but I'm saying make what is there look good.
Like focus on dying your hair Gray.
Like the Gray streaks in your hair where it makes it look
good. OK, I get what you're saying.

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Because great, sometimes the wayit comes in, it's all like, what
the fuck? So just it'll lean into it a
little bit, make it look good. Yeah, that's what suits you.
With me, it just doesn't grow where it should to do streaks.
It's just not. And it's just to me, I'm like
Poe, I just got to do it. I got a color.
I can't. Do it.
You don't have the skin for Grayhair yet, so thank you.
Keep it, keep it. Dark.
I like that compliment. Loving it.

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OK, correlating with dating. She's got yeah, not.
Reading my own writing properly,OK.
Correlating with dating and finding partners?
Oh. Goodness, yeah.
When I look for you, do I look for more of a bearded look?
I like beards. Maybe that's a daddy issue
thing. I look for somebody who's
compassionate, has compassion for others.
That could be a daddy thing. Or maybe it's just like I want

(31:19):
compassion, but like a nurturingtype of man who nurtures me and
only me, not every fucking womanout there.
I think maybe that's a daddy you.
Never curse. I love that no fucking woman out
there I. Heard that there was a little.
Yeah, there was a little definitive.
I'm not. Sure.
My daddy, it's my daddy and nobody.

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Else see that was your little. Yeah.
I know it when your voice pitch changes and you go to a certain
posture. Yes, that's the story I'm
looking for. Thank you.
That makes sense cuz I will get into that like little like I'll
make my shoulders go down yeah or up my neck go down.
That's funny now that I see thatbecause whenever I get in

(32:02):
trouble with my Dom, I'll do that.
I'll put my shoulders up by my ears like no.
Yes, look at me as little and yeah, don't, don't do that.
Just like when I told him I cut off my location.
For me. I told him I was like, I cut off
my location. Most people do that to cheat,
but I did it to get chicken Nuggets.

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When? I told him that I like like.
Like to me and I was. Like like trying to get him to
hug me like. It's OK.
Yeah, he was just standing therelike.
Yesterday you'd have to do it 'cause you're like, oh, I'm with
your aunt, it'll be fine. She stopped at McDonald's.
I don't fucking eat McDonald's. OK, he said.

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But did you stop in between yourmy aunt's house and here?
I said no. Oh.
But I did tell him I did eat. I was like, I'm, I'm not hungry.
He's like, alright, let's get ready for food.
I was like, actually I already. Right after I told him shit.
And he was like, well, what did you eat?
I said McDonald's. And he was like, did you?
What the fuck, that's where my mashed potatoes comes from.

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Oh Lord. Everybody's got their vice.
I would never be able to do a diaper though, so.
That's probably why you're about7 years old.
It's just not diapers on your bag.
I should talk to my dog about this.
Yeah, he probably already knows.That's why it correlates, like
you said, with the and I we shouldn't call them granny
panties because you're not granny.
Yeah, I. Know I see them more as a little

(33:24):
kid you. See them as.
But everybody else calls them granny panties.
Yeah, I call them that, but I feel like the big in their when
their bag, that's why I like them.
They're like they're baggy. I don't know, whatever.
No I totally understand they're non sexual panties that you
would put on sexual. Panties a 7 year old but I still
want to be fucked in them. Yes, because you're sweet and
innocent and Daddy's going to take control.

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My innocence away. Oh yeah, take your innocence
away. I was like hell, this is too
much. Everyday you see your dumb in a
different light. You know, I adore the evolution.
That's a good way to look. At it, our gentleman took an

(34:05):
Uber and he will be here at 1:15.
He said it is 1238. OK, all right.
But yeah, it correlates honestlywith the date, the dating scene
and what you would actually findin a partner.
Now going to PO, you said that one of your dream girls is Reese
Witherspoon, right? Is this Reese Witherspoon now

(34:26):
and what she looks like or are we talking Reese Witherspoon,
you know, 1520 years ago? To me, that's the like, I don't,
I don't. See her age?
You don't see her age? There's.
Certain people that. She just doesn't age, does she?
Yeah. I You know, I remember her first
movie, Man on the Moon. Did you ever see that movie?
Man on the moon or. Man in the moon, something like
that. But it was Man and Moon in the

(34:46):
title. But she was probably 12 or 13
years old when she did it. OK.
I don't know. I don't remember that.
One, let me tell you that movie,get ready to cry.
It's excellent movie. She was basically in love with
someone. Got a phone call?
Man on the moon. Okay, man on the moon.
But yeah, PO, you really need towatch the movie.
It's really sweet. But that was that was before she

(35:08):
became a woman and she was of legal age, but it was she was
even a great actress then. I really like her, but the
question was going to ask you was, could you see yourself
going for a woman like Reese Witherspoon, you know, in
everyday life? I could see me going after it.
I can't say it whatever come about anything, but yeah, I
could definitely see me going don't.

(35:29):
Look at it without the confidence.
Don't look at it specifically asher right Look at like her
personality and how she like that's what she's asking.
We're not like the we're never really get Reese Withers you.
Know what I'm saying? No, I meant like you lost your
confidence whenever you said it,whenever you do have that
capability, right? Yes, I'm saying and oh, so if
you were to meet somebody in your your workplace or in

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passing and she was a Reese Withers version, is there a
reason why you'd particularly goafter someone that looked like
that type of person? My personality is it the look I.
Mean it's definitely, I think it's more of a personality.
Yes. Because she just seems like a
very kind person, OK about the looks, of course, you know, they

(36:11):
help the situation as well. They just reaffirm, you know,
what you already want. But yeah, it's more of the
personality of going, OK, I think that would be a cool
person to hang out with. OK, Is it like the blonde hair?
Is there something striking? Is there something that reminds
her of your? Never minds.
No, I don't think so. Since we're being like she the
opposite completely since we're being analytical.
That's very possible. Yeah.

(36:32):
That was maybe it's the the polar opposite.
Yeah. Because yeah, I'm short, dark
haired, that type of thing. Yeah.
So yeah, so you would go for a tall light.
And hair something. Something of that nature and I
don't yeah, I still do like Bru dance, but the yes, it's more of
the personality part. So I don't want somebody who is
so blunt that it comes across asnegative or passive aggressive.

(36:56):
Right. Well, I'm almost yeah, yeah,
passive aggressiveness just I want to see a positive outlook
on it. Even if you're trying to bring
something to my attention to say, hey, I don't like this can
you say it in a positive way that makes me feel like I can
overcome and control that versusyou're never going to be able to
fix this. It's just who you are.
Just communication, right? That's a learned behavior.

(37:18):
So when you look at women and they struggle with that, that's
because they have no idea how tocommunicate.
Yeah. So definitely could just go
like, hey, this is how I need tobe communicated with.
And it's definitely doable for any woman you choose, as long as
they care enough about you to change their way of
communicating with. You, you know, that's something
I, the way you worded that, I automatically thought there's so
many people out there that I know personally who will say,

(37:38):
well, I'm a realist, you know, Ionly state facts here and I hate
that. To me it's like they don't mind
being negative because if they had a positive outlook then they
would think they would be lying.You understand what I'm saying?
Yeah, I just, yeah, I have a hard time.
You can still be completely honest and be a realist and be
kind about it. But yeah, that's just my whole

(37:59):
thing. It's just the outlook of it of,
you know, don't, don't try and degrade you know me to get me to
comply to a specific behavior. Help me figure it.
Out, even though you're a sub, even as a man, you are there to
kind of like guide her emotions and then she's supposed to be
respectful of how you lead thoseemotions, right?
So just know that you are still the leader even as a sub.

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That makes sense. See, I think it's so, so much
harder for you all being Subs toactually find a partner because
I think that it makes you one more vulnerable.
I agree with that. And you know, you, you find a
lot of your innocent feelings almost as what word do I want to
use as a burden? You know, it almost like it

(38:42):
hinders you in a lot of things like you.
Can see that. I just, I just see that, I see
so many male Subs that come in to see us that it's like they
really want life partners. But it's like, well, do they
really want the wife and kids scenario or do they really want
the dominant woman to take charge of their entire life?
You know, you know, I just, I just see that it's, it's more so

(39:05):
complicated for them to actuallyfind life partners.
Yes, but like how you see with PO PO is this, he came to us
very vulnerable, but he has gained this sort of confidence.
So he was like our little baby bird.
But once they get wings, they still want to lead their
families. They still want to be the man of
their families. But yes, as I said, you're very
vulnerable in the beginning. And no matter what, you can have

(39:25):
a dominant woman. But to go for just complete
control, that's you guys. You aren't fixing issues, you're
just leaning into them and that's not going to be a healthy
relationship. Yeah, I think too, I think that
a lot of our submissive males, when they do find wives, they
end up finding wives that are dominant, strong women in and
out of the bedroom or in the real world, but not in the

(39:49):
bedroom. Yeah.
And then they're not getting sex.
Yeah. Yeah.
Because they see their men as less than.
Yeah, Yeah. I know, it's so crazy to me.
Because as a sub you're still supposed to heal and be a man at
the same time. Yeah, because you can be a sub
and kneel. At your partner's feet and still
leave the family there's. Absolutely.
Because I don't see that, you know, having a male sub would
be, I would never, ever think ofthem as being less than.

(40:11):
Yeah, just never, you know that.Never.
But I'm saving the people that come in.
Yes, they're wise. Literally think that way of
them. Yes, so they.
Feel that way about themselves. They're not healing, they're
getting worse. They're falling more into their
traumas, which is why they need us.
Like see that? Interesting.
I tell you you all, I'm telling you in this community that I've
known for the last years, I've seen so many women that are

(40:34):
submissive, women that I've beenfriends with and that kind of
thing. And I see them on fat.
And it's like they go from lesbian to dating trans to
dating men to dating women again.
And it's just like this whole cycle and they just find one
predator after another and they're just, it's just sad.

(40:55):
It's just sad because they can'tfind a life partner with them
trying to be them themselves. Because, you know, finding the
partner and dating everything, The things you're looking for
are actually the toxic traits ofa man.
You're not looking at it correctly.
Exactly. They're not looking at things
correctly. So true your.
Wheels are even a compassionate 1.
You come in and be like, We had a guy come to the party.

(41:15):
He was very compassionate, very doting on me, but he was creepy.
He was following me everywhere. Do you remember that guy?
The one that wanted to be upstairs and we kicked Sterling?
Not Sterling. Dragonling kicked him out so
that she didn't want to be watched, but he wanted to watch.
He kept following me, even following me to the bathroom.
Do you remember that stuff? One of my first party it was.

(41:36):
Oh yeah, the first party, yeah. But it was very compassionate,
very kind, very Daddy asked, very nurturing.
So I could see somebody kind of going for him and not realizing
that it's a dangerous Rd. because he's not actually that,
yeah. You know, I just can't picture
his face. We'll have to figure that out
after the. Show I don't know his face
either OK he was a little bit bigger of a guy not not fat but
like bigger brown hair. Oh.

(42:00):
God, I remember who he is. Yes, but you know what he does?
He tries to play Dom. I don't.
Yeah, he tries to say he's a Dom.
I know. Yes.
He was very submissive to me. Oh my God, Yeah, yeah.
He is so lost in himself. But he he's not.
He's just a good friend and equivalent into my little group.

(42:21):
But he had very much toxic traits.
Oh my God, he didn't. I was crazy.
He crazy. Toxic.
If anybility fell into it, he would not supply the things that
he was offering in the beginning.
Yeah. And you could see it now.
I could see it because I I've been through these things
already, Right. But I'm just saying, like just
watching him, I just knew. They could top the top, not walk
the walk. So the problem with him is I, I

(42:43):
had a party years ago and he came to this party and he
actually found the one person I knew that he should not have
matched up with. OK, so I had this older
gentleman friend who comes to the dungeon, really nice guy.
You all have not met him yet. Super nice guy.
He hasn't been here in a couple years.
He ended up getting sick, takingcare of his mother, so forth so

(43:04):
on. Anyway, he's more of like 6065
years old. And he brought in this young
woman who is in her early 30s, skinny, petite blonde, kind of
on the verge of white trashy, you know, just really.
Yeah, She's on the other side ofthe tracks.
Nothing against the girl at all.She's very sweet.

(43:24):
But I was like, oh, yeah, she's obviously just fucking him for
money. He's the sugar daddy.
I get it. This is why, you know, he hasn't
really come around. I haven't seen him.
And then he shows up at the party and I was like, oh, wow,
it's so good to see you. And he's like, oh, yeah, you
know, I brought my friend and she's going to come and blah,
blah, blah, blah. Well, next thing I know, this
guy you are now talking about, OK, we're just going to call

(43:46):
him. Let's call him Nick, OK.
We don't like that name. I'm saying it might be his name.
No, it's not his name. Oh, OK.
No, no, I know his real name. OK, We're just going to call him
Nick. OK, so Nick, who's at the party?
And he was at this party four orfive years ago.
He is in the pool with this chick, naked, skinny dipping,
making out with her. And the daddy Dom that I know

(44:07):
that's here at the party, too, He's like 30-40 feet away doing
his own thing, hanging out. He didn't give a fuck what she
was doing, but he was fucking her.
I clearly just thought she was aprostitute.
That's really why I think he brought her, was that she paid
her to bring here, You know, he paid her to come here to the
event and Nick. Did or the?
Daddy Dom did, the Daddy Dom didbecause Nick met her that first

(44:29):
night and I was like all the women at that party that night.
And for him to meet her, it was like I could see the toxicity
just coming off of it so quickly.
Because the next event I had a little gathering with about 20
of my friends. We played this fun little game
that I always play with my friends.
I have to tell you all about it.It's a lot of fun, but I made a
neat little dinner for everybodyand we're all sitting out by the

(44:52):
pool. 11 fall evening, and here he comes with this blonde.
I was like, oh shit, Nick, your friend.
Oh. And he's like, yeah, yeah, we're
dating now. And she's like, well, I wouldn't
call it dating. Yeah, come to find out, 'cause I
told Nick I took him to the sideand I'm like, look, the girl is,
you know, a recreational drug user.

(45:13):
Mm. Hmm.
And a little, then some. And are you paying for some
bills? Are you giving her money?
He's like, well, you know, I, I just helped her out with rent
this month and that, you know, it was that kind of shit.
And I'm like, Nick, come on, man.
Yeah. And but what it is, he likes to
find women that he can rescue. Yeah.
Every man likes a baby bird, butthe only thing about a baby bird

(45:35):
is they fly away. You have to get a woman that's
already established that you're not necessarily fixing, but
you're taking care of like a baby bird.
I think men mix that up and theydon't realize that they're just
saving this person and you're just the stepping stone and I
don't think. All men do it, but I think.
A lot of men do. A lot of men do.
Women do that too, as far they find this man and they.

(46:00):
Use them as this. Person.
I've seen it so many times. Usually it's like the fuck boys.
Oh, I can make them not be a fuck boy and they'll only want
me and I'll be the best and things like that.
So yeah, that's like the ultimate girl fantasy is that
they they obtain the beast, you know?
OK so to break it down really quick with this note because I

(46:20):
like what post said on this too with women, I think women can
either go for being the maternalperson and wanting to nurture
them and care for them. That's why they tolerate abuse
of men. And then the other side of the
coin is yes they feel like they can fix them and help raise them
up to be men when in actuality they can't fucking change them.

(46:42):
But for dudes, I think men go after 2 types of women and like
you said it's either wounded baby birds or it's women.
That I forgot what I was going to say about it maybe.
Go under the insecure kind of thing when they can use those
insecurities. Wanting to fix them?
Yeah, because they're wanting torescue Mama, you know, wanting

(47:03):
to rescue their own mother. I think that's why they do the
wounded bird thing, because my friend Nick.
Mommy issues. Yeah, it's the mommy issues.
Oh shit, I just opened my brain for some things.
Yeah, because Nick, he was adopted out.
He was raised till he was probably 10 or 11 years old.
He had younger siblings. He was the oldest of like four

(47:24):
or five kids. Father was kind of in and out,
drugs involved, mother drugs involved, prostitution involved,
blah, blah, blah. Him and his siblings, they all
get separated. They're in the system.
He ends up the craziest thing with his his job.
He ends up in his hometown out of the blue.
This company sends him to a coordinating town that's within
like 50 miles. He ends up driving to his town,

(47:46):
comes across his aunt's house that she still resides in.
He hadn't been there in over 25 years, hadn't seen any of his
actual family. His mother has already died, his
dad was in prison and died. He hasn't even seen all of his
siblings. After all these years, he come
to find out he had like 7 or eight siblings.
Then he never got like reconnected with of all of them.

(48:08):
They're still like missing siblings because they obviously
have their name changed and all of this.
But that's the thing. I think he goes after women,
like you said, wounded birds, sohe can fix and help, help kind
of heal the mother, yeah, that he missed out on.
But those women always go away. Oh yeah, those women always go
away because it's usually drugs or alcohol involved or something

(48:30):
is wrong with them in some sort of way because they don't have
their like you said, they don't have their life together.
Well, if you notice, and I've noticed it with a lot of people
like my, my, my friend. Yeah, I'm going with a friend
that came to the party. He likes to go after women that
are in relationship problems. He wants to save them from their
relationship. And I know that's dangerous
because you're just helping themget out.

(48:51):
They're going to go find something else.
They're not wanting you. Yes, you save them.
Yes, you're a knight in shining armor, but only for this short
amount of time. They'll walk all over you and
they'll be gone. But you know you're the
connecting flight. Yes, you know what he's doing.
When you first told me about him, I asked you, I said did he
have an, an alcoholic abusive father?
And you said yes. And I said, well, that is his

(49:12):
problem. What he does is not only does he
suppress a lot of these feelingsand he wants social acceptance
from other men and he said he tries to get it's.
Wild. It's wild because I was telling
her all these things even beforeI met him.
Yeah. And it's true.
It's all true because then you said, you know, why is he trying

(49:32):
to date this married woman and why is he trying to do this?
Why? Is he trying to mirror my
boyfriend and getting tattoos inthe same location?
Yes, yes. And I said Liv.
I said it's his parental issues.He's trying to get acceptance
from the dad he never got the love and acceptance from.
So he's seeing Daddy from my daddy?

(49:53):
No, Yes. No.
He said my daddy. And he's going after women that
are in bad relationships becausehe thinks that he can save them.
Exactly. It's so wild and I'm like, you
can't save her. She's going to fly away that
baby bird. You fix your roundup and you
should be all better. She's gone.
So the only resolution, and thisis this is the resolve.

(50:16):
The resolve is the most important part in all of this.
The only way that your friend isgoing to be able to fix this is
if he comes to an acceptance about his mother and father and
makes peace with how they are orwere, if they're still alive, if
they're dead, see that happening, OK?
His dad's. I mean Erica the psychic.

(50:37):
Yes. She told him that he might die
this year to know, to go towardshim and you know.
Make peace with his father. Make peace with his father so.
And he didn't want to do it and.He doesn't want to do it, OK, I
know he's never going to forgiven.
He's going to be stuck in this loop of with women.
Well, I think you could always, if it comes up again, you can

(51:00):
always break it down and you cantell him, say, you know, Mia
told me all of this before she ever met you.
I explained, you know, and that's how you can go back to it
and say it. But the ultimate resolve, even
if you can't speak to your your father and his situation, say if
his father had passed is my point, then he can always.
What a lot of people do is writea letter and then burn it and

(51:23):
they feel like they get a resolve that way.
But then to me, I don't, I don'tsee that because I haven't
experienced that. But for me personally, I would
say to this, how was your fatherraised?
Right. So why was his father an abusive
alcoholic? Well, it's one learned behavior
or two, He experienced somethingin his life that made him want

(51:45):
to be the person he was for a reason.
So he either has to say, I'm going to throw this in the
universe and let it go and I accept who he is and love the
person he was enough to give me life.
And that's where I need to leaveit and just accept it and grow
in love. And that's where Daddy lives.

(52:07):
Theme song. Yeah, yeah.
And Mia show well, yeah, I thinkwe've we've talked a lot about
this and our next one should probably be Mama issues.
But then again, we can't talk about both.
We did, but there's so much more.

(52:28):
Oh yeah, bothers more. About daddy issues for sure.
Bottom line is there's a lot of fucked up people who don't need
to have kids and they don't needto continue to fuck up kids
lives. Period.
Yes. You know, I kind of went on a
tangent yesterday when we were in the car and for some reason
we were talking about parents and how they can really enable
their children to grow. And then when you have someone

(52:50):
as a parent who verbally abuses their children and bashes their
kids, and it's in the way that they do it, it's in the context
and how they do it. So like with someone I know, his
father would just yell and yell and yell and nothing was ever
good enough. He strived for perfection.
It never met his expectations. Therefore his children are

(53:15):
fucking miserable when it comes to trying to perfect everything
in their life. That mediocrity is not a word
they would ever acknowledge. Now then I have another friend
that she really she had four children and she presented her
son because the son looks so much like the man she stepped
out on her husband with right. And so she really disliked her

(53:37):
own child so much that she wouldemasculate him as he was growing
up. She would say you're fat, you're
disgusting, you're Sissy, you'refucking Sissy, you're a little
fucking faggot and saying these awful things.
And this child was 1011 years old.
And I went up to her one day andI slapped her across the face.

(53:58):
I said you will not abuse that child in front of me.
You will not abuse that child. Good on you.
Yeah, I said that shit will not fly with me.
I said you were going to ruin this poor baby.
He is a baby. What the fuck are you thinking?
And I called DCF on her. She got her kids taken away from
her at some point. Ultimately the state let her
have the children back. But her son is now a gay man and

(54:21):
he can't connect with women. Why?
Because his mother wasn't a woman, wasn't a good woman.
She was a predator and an abuserand a horrible fucking waist of
skin. And I disconnected with her
years ago. I I could not even be friends or
associated with someone like that.
Yeah, I'll slap a bitch real quick.

(54:42):
And like I said the other day, Ipunched that in the pussy for a
reason. Liv I.
Reached out, puster in the pussy.
Yeah, last night I was thinking,I was like, what's the The
Powerpuff Girl theme song right after we got done having sex?
And he was like, where the hell did that come from?
I was like, I was just thinking about it.

(55:02):
So we had to look it up. To say I don't.
Know why that reminded me of thePowerpuff?
Yeah, You know. The seven-year old girl in you.
Oh God, please be a Powerpuff Girl for Halloween and he can be
a Power Rangers. Please, he could be the monkey.
Oh, OK. Or you could both be super
powered kids. Like like I said, Power Rangers,

(55:25):
Powerpuff girl. OK, yeah.
And then you can then you can have Powerpuff and Power Ranger
children. There's enough generation of
those Power Rangers. The pee pee family.
Oh my God, I can hear my sons laughing at that.

(55:46):
PPPR. PPPR.
Oh my God. And then your son killing snakes
with your oh. God smells airsoft guns.
Airsoft guns, he. Makes him angry.
Oh gosh, that's so fun. OK, all right kids, we done PO

(56:07):
the ponator. Hey, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Come up the names. I'll go with them.
All right, possession, call us out.
This has been the latest episodeof.
Call me Mistress.
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