FEMDOM HUMILIATION TECHNIQUES

DON'T TEACH YOUR SUB THESE SECRETS TO THE TRADE.. LOL THEY MAY CATCH ON TO YOUR PLOYS!

MIA AND POE DISCUSS ALL THE FUN LITTLE THINGS YOU CAN DO TO YOUR SISSY/SUBMISSIVE/SLAVE TO PUT THEM IN THEIR PLACE.

Episode Transcript

(00:07):
Hi, welcome to the latest episode of Call Me Mistress.
I'm your Hostess, Mistress Mia, and I've got with me the PO
Master Viper. Greetings from the Manor.
All right, how you doing PO? I'm doing fantastic.
PO just made a delicious lunch. It was awesome.
The puppies and I enjoyed immensely.
So glad you did. No PO, we have two lovely emails

(00:30):
OK? One is from a dear client and he
was very much an adult baby OK? And I just adore him, truly
adore him. But he, he told me that he has
met someone recently and that hehas a lot in common with her.
OK, He said. It feels like things are finally
turning around for the better and I want to thank you for
helping me gain confidence. I do deserve to be happy and

(00:53):
putting myself out there worked.And that's, that's fantastic.
And then all of our goals. Yes, so I told him I said that's
beautiful. You know you're a wonderful
person. Never stop believing and knowing
how special you are. I'm so happy for you.
Always know you hold special place in my heart because you're
awesome. Love you kiddo.
And he's like the feeling is mutual.
Thanks again will do. But he plans on helping out for

(01:15):
the next event that we're talking about doing for the
adult babies that's. Awesome.
Yeah, it's really cool. Wonder if she is into the kind
of the lifestyle as well. You know, I didn't ask, but I
think at some point maybe he'll just let me know because, you
know, I don't want to be too intrusive.
Of course, of course. It's just the way that he was
speaking so highly of it, that they had a very similar mindset,

(01:37):
that type of thing that I thought maybe he was implying
that maybe she was, you know, willing to, if not in the
lifestyle, at least willing to entertain playing.
I tell you what, can we go back over that again?
Just because all of this? Did you phone on silent too?
My. Phone sounds like.
Motherfucker. OK.
All right, So go ahead. So, so do you think that like is
she into the lifestyle as well? Did you kind of get that from

(02:00):
the the e-mail, the message? Yeah, I don't know.
I don't know. I didn't ask.
I didn't want to be too intrusive about the whole
situation so. Just sounded like from like so
from the verbiage of the e-mail that maybe she was either at
least in the lives or in the lifestyle or at least interested
in playing or I would entertain the idea of it.
So that's that's what I hope forhim.
But if not, at least you found someone compatible that he has

(02:21):
mutual interest win. So that's awesome.
Yes. And, you know, I think Mama
Pete, she had told her story before.
When I interviewed her a couple years ago, she said that when
she met her husband, she wasn't in the lifestyle like that.
Right. You know, she said that she was
working as a nurse, and when shemet her husband, you know,
things just kind of aligned. Yeah.
Yeah. So I think if you truly love

(02:42):
someone and you see their endearing qualities and fetishes
and games, thanks, why not just go with it, right?
Yeah. It's all about fulfilling each
other's happiness, and sometimesthe happiness just happens to be
a little more unique. It's.
So true. So then I had another message.
The gentleman who is going to join us and help us with the

(03:05):
adult baby party, he is actuallysaying that he is going to bring
a high chair and a changing table.
That's that's very exciting, isn't?
That exciting. I've never had an opportunity to
actually see nor play with furniture that's made for, you
know, right for us big kids. So that's pretty.
That's pretty cool. The big kids.
Yeah, but not too big, right? He said he has a crib he's like,

(03:29):
but it is. There's way too much to do.
That sounds like that would be alot of pieces to put together
and I quit my job at IKEA just because of that.
Now then, I have good friends and they they always call.
I always call them the banana couple.
OK, so they're very appealing. Oh yes, they are very, very

(03:50):
appealing. They're super, just wonderful
people. They're young, young kids.
They were newlyweds when I interviewed them oh so long ago.
And they've always come to the events the last four years that
I've known them. But just great people.
They're so sweet. They're just a good little
Southern couple. I love that.
Well they wrote me and they saidMia, I just wanted to say that

(04:13):
we miss you and seeing you at the parties.
We still listen to the podcast every time 1 comes out.
Can't wait for a fucked up Friday to watch while we are
eating dinner. It's coming, it's coming.
It's coming, I know, I just gotta edit this crap.
Those those things are difficultto edit, but take out
everything, put in everything and then retake out everything

(04:36):
and re put in everything. Yeah, it's it's a lot of steps
to adore. And yeah, so finally I get it.
Yeah, PO. And I just started doing stuff
today and I'm like, Oh my God, PO, it's already 3:00 like what
the fuck? Time flies and you're having fun
and you're in good company. So PO, the other day I'm going
to tell you I was kind of disciplining my husband because

(04:58):
he was naughty and he's like, well, maybe I just need to be
put in my bag. And that would consist of his
leather sleep sack. OK.
And it's very intricate, You know, there's, there's buckles,
there's belts that go around them.
And then we attach it all to a massage chair.
So he's laying back, inclined, flat out.
OK. And he fucking loves it.

(05:19):
Interesting. OK.
I'm going to show it to you today.
Don't. Worry, you get to see it.
So he has all this set up and sothat's kind of like our routine.
If he's, if he's having a stressful day or he's been
naughty, it's like, go ahead andget the bag, motherfucker.
Let's go ahead and make this happen.
Because then I scare the shit out of him by doing breath play
or CBT which he hates and just doing things that you know.

(05:43):
Just tickle your fancy. But not necessarily.
You know his. That's what a punishment's all
about, right? Exactly.
It's. About, you know, both people,
you know, mutually, you know, approaching that line, maybe
pushing that line just a little bit, talking sensual, but we
understand that we need to be put in our place and.
You go? Yeah.
I've got a couple of those sessions, so I get.
Them All right, so he asked me if I could put his JBLS on.

(06:05):
OK All right. And I was like yeah, you know, I
always turn the thermostat down so it's really cool.
Yeah. Right.
That's got to be. Yeah, that'd be really
important. Yeah.
So. It's hot, you know, and I'll go
in, I'll give him water and he'll put on a condom catheter.
So he'll be in there for a while, OK?
You know, it's just a condom sleeve and just some adhesive
around the head of his Dick. And then he'll just stay in

(06:26):
there. So he'll urinate.
He'll be fine now. Anyway, he wanted to listen to
his earphones just to kind of like, block everything out.
And so he told me he's like, youknow, I want to listen to one of
your bedtime stories. And I said, well, you're going
to be in here much longer than one of my bedtime stories.
So no. So Needless to say, what I did

(06:47):
was I'm looking at my Spotify and immediately it puts on
their, you know, suggested podcast.
OK. And I see Finn Dom.
Perfect. Right.
And it's by Eva Harmon. And I was like, well, I haven't
heard of her yet. OK.
I'm like, maybe this is literotica.
Yeah. Maybe this is some.
Oh, I can't use that word. It's some type of erotica.
OK. Because literal erotica is its

(07:08):
own little, little website. Oh, OK.
Yes, it's its own website. Yes.
Oh, so long ago I was calling stuff literature erotica because
I thought literature erotica. OK.
Yeah. But no, they have branded that
name. Kind of like self adhesive
bandage versus a mandate. There you go.
Gotcha. OK, so yeah, great comparison.

(07:29):
But Needless to say I went and Ijust see that feminom and I'm
like, oh, I'm going to play thisfor him.
So I put the headset on him. I, you know, set it up, hit play
and I saw that came in volumes. So I thought, Oh well, this will
last several hours and the 1st, this one is like 3 plus hours.
I'm like, yeah, he's going to stay in here that long at least.
Yeah. That's a long story.

(07:50):
It's a long story. I thought this would be great.
Yeah, you know, I thought, oh, wait, maybe it's a book.
I didn't listen to it. I didn't even read the
summarization of it at all. I was just going on the fact
that it's a femdom. So I'm like, OK, win, win.
So I do this and I walk away andI let him enjoy his time.
OK, So about two hours in, I eventually go back in and I
check on him. That's all.

(08:11):
That's all good people should doto make sure nothing's going
wrong. Now, mind you, the only thing
that separated everything else is a wall.
I can hear anything that goes on.
He knows that I'm in the other room.
I'm doing my thing right? And I go in there and check on
him and he's like, Mistress, Mistress, I dropped my headset.
Like, why did you do that? Why did you do that?
And he's like, I got mad. And I'm like, really?

(08:33):
Why did you get mad? He's like, I don't want to talk
about it. He's like, make me listen to
something else. And I'm like, no, you're going
to finish this. And he's like, fine.
He's like, I'll finish it, you pouty, baby, you know?
And so I put the headset back onhim.
I rewound it a little bit and then hit play again.
And so I'm like, all right, so Igo back in, 3 1/2 hours later,

(08:53):
it's already on her second volume.
And he's like, please, please, Iwant out, please, please,
please. Well, I gave him another hour or
two in there. Of course, got to make sure they
learn their lesson. Absolutely slapped his stick
around a little bit, teased him,denied it, walked out, did the
whole little routine a few times.
He wasn't happy then he's well, I'm hot.
So I unzipped it a little bit and then he's like, I want out,

(09:15):
please, please. I'm like, OK, OK.
And then he's like, I unzipped it.
I unbuckled this the first buckle and I undid the first
belt that wrapped around his chest.
He's like, oh God, thank God, freedom.
And I said, no, change my mind, push them down.
Zipped it up A. Dom move.
Yeah, Dom move and. He's like, no, no, no, please,

(09:36):
please. And I'm like, shut the fuck up.
If you don't do this, I'm going to put the mask on with the ball
gag in your mouth, and that's gonna be it.
And he's like, oh God, no, please, please.
And he begged. He begged some more.
I said don't worry, I'll be back.
But he asked for a punishment, right?
He asked for a punishment. He knows exactly he was being
bad, right? All right, so this is when I

(09:58):
went in. We ended it.
I got them out. Like, do you feel better now?
Yeah, I feel better. I feel better.
Thank you, Mistress. Thank you.
And I could see something's not right.
So words were right, but the tone and the vibe was not?
Yeah. OK, OK.
He's like, yeah, I'm just going to take a shower.
I'm good. Do you need anything?
I'm like, no, no, I'm good. I'm going to go ahead and go to

(10:21):
bed. So I said I'll meet you in
there, right? So I wait and he picks a shower.
He comes into bed, and then he gets into bed.
And ultimately he kind of fessesup that night.
Later on, it's like 3:00 in the morning, he wakes me up.
I'm not happy. I'm like, what's wrong?
And he's like that dumb thing you made me listen to.
You're doing everything that shedid on it.

(10:43):
And I'm like, hold on, what do you mean?
And he's like, you've been calling me Boo Boo.
You've been, you've been taking and, and like, like dehumanizing
me and little things and, and, and it just, it makes me feel
indifferent. And the things that you're doing
to me, you know, it's like you're putting me in my bag for
hours on end and and you're and you're doing more of these
things more and more. And he's like, it's like the

(11:06):
certain things you have me do and the words that you say,
that's what she does. And I'm like, So what is she
trying to do? She's like trying to turn your
husband into a cock. And I was.
So this wasn't a story you said?No, it was instructional.
Yes, it was a structure literature for Fendoms.

(11:29):
So fuck you, Eva Harmon. Giving away the secrets.
Giving away the fucking secrets.That's yeah, I can imagine that
being a little bit of a let downfor for him when he thinks he's
gonna, yeah, you know, be getting some stories that maybe
makes him a little more excited and get to do his role.

(11:51):
Yes, and then he realizes in hismind.
But Needless to say, I was calling him Boo Boo here lately.
And I never do that. Yeah, but I just thought, oh,
that's in term of endearment. So I'm like, denied it all
because it was true, right? I mean, what else could I really
say about that? But I was like that fucking
bitch telling people the the meaning and the way to do

(12:13):
things. You don't do that.
It's like the mask magician thatcame out in that one year that
told all the secrets to the magic tricks and you're like,
yes, all the magicians were likefuck you dude.
Yes, exactly. And she was.
She told him about the chastity.She told him about, you know,
what to wear, how to fix his hair, you know, doing these

(12:34):
things, little pieces of the puzzle to how to really control
him in every aspect. I'm like that bitch.
So needless say, I'm gonna see if she wants to do it.
You know, game recognizes game. I can appreciate that.
I really can. All right, so you and I checked
out this article and it was basically boiling it erotic

(12:58):
humiliation, talking about erotic humiliation and how you
basically start off small and using keywords and key things to
say and knowing that whatever you do say, you can't take those
words back. It's almost like a brainwashing.
Yeah, I could definitely see that, right.
Just starting off with somethingas little as good boy or good

(13:19):
girl, you know, very simple, very non threatening, but that
can transition from those words to, you know, other phrases
that. Yeah, lick my feet or else.
Yeah, you know, good boy changesinto good little bitch.
You know there's a transition that you can go through it.
Is all right, so PO, this is on the Bad Girls Bible Club, OK,

(13:40):
It's always a good website to gothrough when you're talking
about certain aspects of sex, certain aspects of BDSM.
We've read on this before, but if you want to go through the
first one, go for it. So the release of the bodily
fluids, yes. OK, but it's on their body as
basically a form of punishment. Come blood, spit, urine or fecal

(14:04):
matter on the body. OK, not much in the fecal part,
but yeah, I could definitely seelike the spitting.
Yeah, I've definitely seen that utilized several times.
Yes. Now Liv won't spit on you, will
she? No, she may spit.
No, the closest she would probably come is maybe putting
like water in her mouth kind of thing.

(14:26):
And but it's I don't even think she's really done that to me.
Think maybe I just heard her describe it on a different
episode of another person. Think if she spit coffee into
someone's mouth or something like that.
Nature. Oh yeah, I remember that.
So servitude, we all know how that works.
It's servicing someone in some form or fashion, obviously.
Sure. You do that with Liv all the

(14:48):
time. Yeah.
You made her breakfast the otherday.
I did. She loved it.
The other day, before we did oursession, I made her a peanut
butter Jelly sandwich. Oh my God.
And I was on my knees holding upthe plate when she walked in.
You know, to the dungeon. She loves PB and J.
She does love her PB and J She's.
So easy. You know it's she's a joy to
cook for. You know, she's so.

(15:09):
It's so sweetly simple too with her, you know, so real quick, PO
and I, we went and we ran a couple of errands the other day
after we went to the nail salon and she says to PO, I need, I
need to stop and get a drink because I need to take, I need
to take some Tylenol. And Needless to say, she goes
into the convenience store and what does she come out with?

(15:32):
Oh, Pringles Beef jerky. It was 2 for one and it's like a
bag full of bullshit. They're basically giving it away
when it's 2 for one. It's 2 for one and she always
drinks her her root beer and shealways, you know, gets her
Pringles and her chips and her fattening shit.
Oh God, she cracks me up. Gotta love her.

(15:55):
We love you, Liv. We love you so much.
All right, so what's #3? Forced oral sex or other sexual
gratifications. Yeah, can't go wrong with that.
Yeah. That's yeah, I could see that.
Forcing them to have. Okay, so forcing them to have
oral sex on you? Not quite sure how that's

(16:15):
humiliating, but I guess. Well, I think just some.
Yeah, I think if you're like, sitting on someone's face, for
example. Oh.
OK, perfect example. OK.
You know I've done that and recently my little slave boy
said I want you to sit on my face.
I want your dirty panties in my mouth, OK?
Yeah, and that probably ass, asslicking would probably be the

(16:35):
beer in that same little category.
Yeah, he said. It's humiliating, but honestly,
he even loves it. So it's like, yeah, go ahead, go
ahead, All right #4 is acting asfurniture objectification.
I'm gonna say you've done that. Yeah, I've done that.
Yeah. Yeah.
Where you live as sat on my back, there are certain things,

(16:58):
Yeah. And I've seen it in other areas
of the sub or the slave acting as a table.
Yes. So you put stuff on them, put
your feet on them. Do you think that do that for
Liv you? Don't see photos.
I could see that, yeah. Yeah, it was fun.
Yeah, all right #5. Requiring physical rituals OK

(17:21):
yeah Liv and I do that yeah because most of her you know
like, you know when you she walks in she wants you in
whatever you know dressing that you would normally wear whether
that be and. She wants your bodily hair gone.
She. Wants that, but she wants you on
your knees when she walks in. Yeah, you know something that
that nature. So that's that's a ritual.
Absolutely, Yeah, yeah, she's very methodical like that,

(17:42):
controlling bathroom usage. I haven't really had that one
happen, but. How torturous do you think it
would be if you were put in a diaper I live and made to drink
a bottle or two of water and sayif she has like some form of
tease and denial or whatever, right?
And she basically forces you to eventually hold your bladder.

(18:06):
To to to hold it without it. Yeah, without going at all.
That after a certain point, yeah.
That would definitely be yeah. Towards right.
Oh, definitely, yeah. Yeah, one of my my good friends
that comes to see me in the dungeon that I told you, rubber
panties. You know, the whole thing with
the diaper. Right.
Being able to choose whether to.Yeah, yes, yeah, that's yeah.

(18:27):
He loves it. Right.
Yeah. You know for women, when you
have to pee at the same time that you're having sex or you,
it really heightens your orgasm.Really.
Yes, you have to hold your urinewhile you're having sex and
you're like right there to orgasm.
It intensifies it. Interesting.
I thought that's why you always like took that extra 3 or 4

(18:49):
minutes before, you know, havingsex to go and use the bathroom
and all that type of stuff. Well, sometimes that happens,
you know, But there's also womenwho just let it go and then they
call it squirt. And now the kind of squirt you
want, but you know. For other people and One Night
King shaming, but for other people it's like if you hold it

(19:12):
when you're having sex, it just intensifies the actual orgasm.
Just saying it's gonna. Be my next online game named
Squirt. Oh yeah, it's kind of boyish
fun. It's cute.
OK, what else you got? Oh, let's see, watching while
using the toilet. That's that's an interesting
one. I'm a shy peer.
So that would be, yeah, definitely, definitely.

(19:33):
So that would be that would be very difficult.
You know what I've done some of my slaves.
What's that? I've actually held their Dick
while they pee. Yeah, that would be a little bit
of a mind fuck. Now, would that be like a like a
potty training kind of situationor would it just be a just for
the hell of it and you figured it that would be a humiliating

(19:56):
thing. I've played it two different
ways. So one way has been very erotic
and we're in the shower together, for example.
OK, all right. Another way with someone who I'm
not nearly as intimate, someone who just is a friend that comes
to see me at the dungeon. I'll hold their penis and I'll
be like, yeah, this could go up or you could go down.

(20:18):
Keep running your mouth, find out which side it's going to
pivot to, you know, so we'll go outside and we'll see which way
it. Goes OK, alright, let's.
See how well bladder control canbe when that piss hits them in
the face? Just saying.
Rocket Man. Exactly.
All right. Wearing collars or other jewelry

(20:41):
as a sign of ownership or punishment.
You know, I just recently asked Liv.
She has the slave collar that she can wear all the time.
Have you looked at men's necklaces that you can wear as a
slave all the time? So I consider that my day color
charm, OK, because that's actually it means owned little.

(21:03):
OK, so let's see the symbol on it too.
So OK, it's always a circle. Yep, and it has the heart.
And the son that just means owned little.
And so that's kind of my, you know, mind, but.
You're my you're a reminder. Yeah, and it just, you know,
it's there. That's you're tingling across my
eyes, so. Oh, that's right, you know.
OK, yeah, years ago I had made one specifically for my husband

(21:26):
and I put on a symbol that meantslave.
And then on the back I did an inscription.
OK, but I'll eventually get one for, you know, another one of my
slaves. But they have like one that's
kind of like 1/2 moon. They had different ones.
And it's not necessarily BDSM symbol and it's not like round,
it's more discreet. OK.

(21:46):
Yeah. So I'm definitely different
things. Seen some websites out there
that had some really neat designs for you know, daytime
yeah collar and yeah even, you know, session collar so.
Yes. So if anyone have any
suggestions, I think it would becool.
Go ahead and suggest it to me because I know that one of my
sissies wants like a pink collar, you know, something

(22:07):
really sweet. And and then I said, well, you
know, I want you to wear something more permanent and on
a daily. So you know, you could wear it
to work. No one's going to know.
Yeah, so forth. This one came from captive
collar, OK. And that's where I see a lot of
people whenever I research, you know, who makes the best day
collars, it always comes back tocaptive.

(22:28):
Collar. OK, I'll have to look at that.
They're very neat website and a lot of them are very unique
designs to where if you if you don't know, you don't know, but
OK. So that's what I would
recommend. OK, we're doing a promo for them
and they don't even realize it yet.
You know, if you want to us to endorse you guys, you know, send
us a, send us a little Instagramor a little Apple suggestions

(22:50):
and we'll, we'll talk. Exactly.
All right. The next one, PO, is number 9.
It's prohibiting clothing. Prohibiting clothing.
OK, I. Was gonna say, does Liv make you
get naked all the time? Make me no, but but that is part
of, you know, our our session dynamic as far as how we

(23:13):
normally play one of our rituals.
Yes. Yes.
And that's. Yeah, I don't mind it.
I think my first session I was alittle bit more shy cuz I just
didn't know quite what to expect.
But yeah, by the end of the session, no clothing at that
point. So from then on.
Yeah, and now you're so free about it, which is hilarious.

(23:35):
I'm like, yeah, PO, go ahead andstick your butt on my couch.
It's OK I'll let a few people doit.
And you're one of those few people like, yeah, go ahead,
pose Butt's. Clean that.
Big deal. When I'm cleaning the dungeon at
this after the session's over, I'm still in a chain.
Yeah, collar and everything. Just news can be walking around
scrubbing things. And, you know, I like how

(23:56):
comfortable I've become as far as that, you know, and being
able to be. I'm like, yeah, it's a body and
it's my body and my body. Exactly one of my you know, my
dear friend Glenn, who we lost this year, He always used to
come like twice a week just to clean my dungeon for me, not
even do a session. But he would clean the dungeon
and he would do it naked. But he wanted me to always

(24:17):
choose a pair of panties for himto wear.
He'd wear a pair of panties for me and I'd come in and check on
him and he just he's like, you know, this is so freeing.
He loved it. And it was so cute because he
would bring like his little carry on of all of his like
cleaning supplies. And he was just always awesome,
just so thoughtful. Yeah, that that sounds like I

(24:38):
could definitely see that because there's certain even if
you're not in a session, but you've done sessions in there,
there's certain things that you'll look at or you'll pick up
and you'll be like, I remember when.
So it's it's, I don't even mind that part myself.
It's fun. Yeah.
All right. How about requiring a dress
code, which we've already talkedabout removing privacy during
activities such as using the bathroom, I removing or opening

(25:01):
the door. We've talked about that.
OK, anal penetration with toys, but plugs, pegging, that's
that's a common thing with everyone.
It's common, but there's definitely some people out there
that, you know, it's like they're they're hard yellow to
where they're like, I'll I'll doit.
But you know, there has to be certain parameters for me to
want to do it or for it to be done to me.

(25:22):
You know, I'm, I'm not super huge into to pegging myself or
but you know, a butt plug, you know, she has a flood every now
and again, but pegging, yeah, that's one that I'm just not
that big of a fan of. But I could definitely see for,
you know, like punishment, you know, being like, OK, that's
going to happen today, later or not.
Wow, you're a champ. Well, I think it's fun.

(25:42):
I think Liv and I, we've always had different ones that enjoy
it, so it makes it more fun whenthey really like it.
Yeah, I could see that. It's just like y'all spoken of
with sysification and I'm sure even AVDL it's more fun when and
they want to do it and they're acting happy and they're like,
Oh no, please don't, I don't want to do it.

(26:05):
And even though, you know, that's just their mind's way of
allowing them to do it. So yeah, it's got to be better
to do it with someone who's openand free and wants to do it in
there. Exactly.
All right, what's the next one PO?
Let's see where we at we're at requiring requiring permission
to masturbate or orgasm. OK, that's, that's definitely

(26:29):
happened several times in the inthe old dungeon down there.
The old dungeon down there. Yeah.
I'd say that's a pretty. I think that's just, you know,
what you're supposed to do when you're in that type of dynamic.
You're supposed to ask and the answer's no.
All right, well, that's too bad.Sucks for me, but I'll live and
I'll try and do better next time.

(26:51):
It is what it is, right? It is what it is.
What's the next one? Let's see, forced cross
dressing, gender bending sissification, for example.
So we kind of covered that one just a few minutes ago with you.
Absolutely. So let's go.
I love my sissies making the masturbate in a humiliating way.

(27:13):
That's an interesting one. Can.
Yeah. I'm not sure I can.
Can you? Can you give me an example of
what that would be? OK, Well, for example, we had
one gentleman and he was here recently.
And Liv, I said damn, she was socreative about this.
She basically used a chain, madeit as a noose and then connected
it, OK, to the other chain suspended from the ceiling.

(27:36):
And she had him sit in a very small little chair, OK?
So he had the complete freedom and control to pull at the chain
against his neck, OK? And we were humiliating him as
we were making him masturbate. OK.
And so at the time, again, it could have been, he could have

(27:56):
been under the influence of something or if he could have
been nervous. There's a lot of factors
involved. But at the time, you know, he's
sitting there, we sissified him.We made him do a striptease
dance. Like we were really degrading
him on every level. Anyway, so he's sitting there
and he keeps pulling harder on that chain.
And you could see his eyes roll back in his head and we're like,

(28:19):
come on, we didn't tell you to fucking stop.
Fucking struck that little clip.Fucking pathetic.
And he's like, I'm trying do it hard.
You fucking suck. And so I would spit on them and
then spit water on them. And yeah.
And Liv was just like, sitting back.
And she's like, you're not even looking at us, You know?

(28:39):
It was great fun. It really was.
That OK that I, I can get it. Yeah, that would that might be a
little difficult to produce the results that you're trying to
produce if he didn't produce anything that well.
He didn't produce. Anything, he said.
I'm a shock here so but can onlyimagine.
Yeah, but he loved it. It was great.
It was great. All right.

(29:01):
So. Oh, scolding them like they're a
child. Has Liv ever scolded you like a
child? I don't think she necessarily
has, but I, being a BDLII, don'talways always like to cross
contaminate Vikings so I like tokeep them separated.
So it's always really a positivevibe when you're doing the adult
baby. Definitely, yeah, it's more of a

(29:22):
like I said, it's definitely a positive vibe, more of a.
You only let big PO be degraded or humiliated or what?
Scalded. Yeah, yeah, cuz I.
Should say cuz she doesn't degrade or humiliate.
Yeah, no, that's not her thing. Yeah, but I could definitely see
where it could be appealing to some people.

(29:45):
Yes. But he said I'm, I'm she
intuitive. So when it comes to like, you
know, degrading, you already have enough things in my head
that I say to myself, I degrade and humiliate myself all the
time. I don't need someone else to say
something that I'm like fuck, I had that same thought.

(30:05):
Damn it. Two of us agree it's got to be
true. God no.
No, no, no, no. But no need for that.
If it was set up in a controlledenvironment to where both of you
are going into the experience and going, hey, but we're going
to try this. Understand we don't mean any of
this, but I think it could be fun.
Yeah. I, I could definitely see the

(30:27):
the appeal of it and I would even be willing to try it.
But I mean, I'm just a nice guy.No, nobody wants to do it
because I'm so nice. Every time.
Every time I asked them to do it, they're like but but you but
you PO gave me mean to PO. Yeah, he will not do it.
Madame Lib will not do it. Well, I'm going to tell you.
This gentleman, he came to see me.
God, it's been 12 years. 13 years ago I saw him and I didn't

(30:51):
like him then. But he had lost his wife.
I try to be very compassionate to him.
Right. And he wanted to.
Interrogation scene. I'm like, I know nothing about
you. I just met you.
Now you can write a list of all the things you want me to
interrogate you about, but I'm telling you, it's going to be
more authentic if I've known youfor a period of time.
I said, so until then, why don'twe do something different?

(31:13):
So we did a different scene and then he tried to do the same
thing to me like 2-3 years later.
Then ultimately I was just like,you know what, fuck it.
He's one of these guys who wantshumiliation, degradation, and
then the moment you do it duringa scene, he fucking creams
himself. But when he would call me and he

(31:35):
would want to demand things withme and I would say, look, you
little fucking bitch. Then he was like, look here
bitch, don't fuck with me. And I was like, oh, I'm sorry.
So you only want humiliation, degradation in the dungeon.
I said well fuck you. But do you know he just emailed
me the other day and he's like, I want to do an interrogation

(31:55):
seeing it. I said I know who you are.
I've known you for the last 13 fucking years and I've seen you
about 8 times. I know who you are, yeah.
OK, if he wants it, yes he can give it to him.
And I know y'all been working on, you know, those types of
scenes. So yeah, maybe you can get some
of that that energy out that youneed to get out.

(32:17):
But you know, the last time he came, because he's gotten so
much older, he's in his 70s now.He doesn't want to do.
I don't. And certainly I don't want to do
anything too hardcore on. I'm not a just at all, but.
It's pushing about when I don't know him right.
Yeah, and you don't know how honest they're gonna be.
But you know, he wanted, he wanted me to find a female sub

(32:39):
to do it to while he was watching us interrogate her all.
Right, so up next we have mockery.
I've. Done that repeatedly.
Yeah, that's it's just like, oh,you're going to be a big little
baby for me, aren't you, you little bitch.
You know that kind of shit. OK.
I could definitely see. I wouldn't mind degradation.

(33:00):
I don't think I would want you. I need the like the Mistress Mia
Lite version. Oh OK.
Cuz you know, I think you would be a little, little tough for
me. You're a little.
Too good at it. I would be way too hard on you.
I couldn't do that though. But I, you know, my thing of it
is it's easy to do it to someonewho you don't know.

(33:23):
True and people who you know really want like that's the.
Thing, that's why I do it. I would only do it if they
really want it obviously. It's, well, that's what this is
all about. It's consent.
And yes. It would be very difficult to do
it to someone I genuinely care about, so I could never do that
to you, sorry. It's OK, It's OK.
I'll take the I'll take the L onthis one.

(33:43):
Yes, but I will say that that one session that came in after
Liv made him eat his pubic hairs, he was just like, he
didn't want to swallow it. Nothing.
And then I was like, you know, you're being a little fucking
bitch. And then ultimately I'm like,
yeah, no wonder your wife doesn't want anything to do with
your little Dick. You know, he's like, OK, that's
nuts there. I'm like, shut the fuck up.

(34:05):
I'll say whatever the fuck I want.
Exactly. I don't care about your wife.
Feel sorry for your wife, OK? All right, Shut up.
Yeah. So making them repeat words
commands honorifics. Making them repeat words.
Commands are honorifics. Not sure I know.
I'm not sure I know what that word means.

(34:27):
Honorifics is a title or word implying a high status,
politeness, respect. OK, so like you referring, you
know then referring to their mistress as their queen or?
My mistress, my Dom. Yes, Yeah.
OK. OK, that makes sense.
Yes, making them repeat words. And commands.
Yeah, You know, I'm not worthy, Mistress.

(34:50):
You're my queen, Mistress. You know, Justin, he's so
endearing. Like he'll say, how are you my
queen? It really.
Really. Tired.
You Talk about Justin, talk about me.
All right, poem, the last but not least.
Requiring permission for daily activities, Yeah, OK.
So I could see that, especially if you are like a real hardcore,

(35:12):
like DS relationship, yes, for example, you want to eat
something, but you're no, you'renot necessarily allowed to eat
that. Get a call and say, hey, can I
eat this? And they say no, then you can't
have those chicken Nuggets. I'm sorry.
There was a story, there was a story in the community.
He's talking about Madam Liv, but I'm talking about somebody

(35:33):
else. I would never talk about my
owner like that. Ohh no, not that.
Was just the just the thing? Just a whim.
Just a whim. Yeah, yeah.
We ratted her out and we said that she had to turn her
location off to go to McDonald's.
Madame Liv does not eat healthy and what's hilarious is she
tried to explain to me how PB and J was healthy and I was like

(35:54):
look you're sweet but your sweetness cannot blow shit up my
ass. Yeah, ice cream is healthy for
breakfast, too. It's got all that milk in it,
right? And waffles, don't forget, she's
like, I didn't eat waffles and I'm like, you told me, Waffles
and ice cream. But yeah, I could definitely see
where ask having to ask permission could definitely

(36:17):
after a while ago. OK, this is humiliating.
Yeah. Especially like if it's
something that was linked to thetop ones, like I have to ask to
go to the bathroom or your abdl.You have to ask before you
change yourself, you know, like,I could definitely see that.
Oh yeah. You know, definitely be in the
degradation humiliation category.
Well, I know with one of my submissives, you know, he has

(36:39):
left his location on, so I know where he's at at all times.
I'm OK. OK, there he is, there he is.
And that's what happens, you know.
And I can say, oh, you went to such and such place today.
There was a sub girl in the community years ago and we heard

(36:59):
the story about it, but she had a Dom that wanted to help her
lose weight and she needed his help to lose weight.
Well one day he's like, I'm going to go and fuck some other
girl. That was their deal.
They had range. It wasn't a big deal like that.
OK, He's like, but I'm gonna go off On this date.
Fuck this girl. And I will call you when you're
allowed to eat. Well, a day and a half later.

(37:22):
Whoa. That's a that's a bit of a
stretch, but yeah. But point received she.
Lost a lot of fucking weight that year.
Well, you talked about that one time, you know, when when Brie
was chained up in the dungeon and you just bring in just a
little bit of this, but it helped her quit, you know,
smoking, helping a lot, lose a bunch of weight, You know that,
you know, whatever other things that might have been addicting

(37:43):
in, you know, that that week shewasn't able to get to it.
So I could see definitely where that could honestly help
somebody and almost make it a little fun for them while
receiving the help because you're introducing it into the
game. Therefore, Yeah, I definitely
see the. The mind.
Factory. Yeah, the mind factory.
But how well it works, Me actually being able to accept it

(38:03):
more because I'm giving you control of it.
It's the power exchange, Absolutely, yeah.
Yeah, With Brie, it was more or less like I gave her the bucket.
I gave her a gallon of water. And every now and then I'd bring
her in an apple with, you know, coated in lemon and salt.
She likes that. I'd give her crackers.
I gave her a few things that, you know, I knew she'd like
she'd eat, but, you know, she wanted to be 165.

(38:26):
And her average weight is supposed to be between 185, 200.
She's tall. She's yeah.
She's 6/1 and she's like, well, I'm 6 foot.
I'm like OK, well call yourself 6 foot.
You could on average be 190. Well, she doesn't want to be
190. She wants to be a petite 16165.
Right, she wants like a 2% body fat kind of thing.

(38:46):
Yes, yes. And so, Needless to say, she
lost a good good. Chunk of change.
When she was tied up in there. Chained up in there, not tied,
but it was funny because my in laws were here and they were
here for like 10 days. But I told her, I said, now when
you hear that door open, you know you cannot make a noise.
I said, now I can simply tell them.

(39:06):
And I did tell my in laws that it was a it was a renter that
was renting the space for woodworking.
Yeah, that's smart. It was smart.
It's very smart. They believed.
It you're always very good aboutbeing able to think on your
feet. Thank you, thank you.
But you know, we had already planned that ahead.
I, you know, I told my husband I'm like, hey, this is what we
got to tell him, 'cause every now and then I get this whiff of

(39:28):
like wood from the inside of thedungeon.
And, you know, at work they believed us.
But, but his mother is so weird.She's very tomboyish.
So she's like, no, no, I wanna see the dungeon I, I wanna see
the dungeon. I.
Wanna see the woodworking? Yeah.
She's like, I wanna see this. So the garage.
And he's like, no, he's like, that's his private space.
That's. It he rents it, it's it is none
of our business what he does in there.

(39:50):
That's it. And we made sure we kept the
lock on that fucking door. That's awesome.
Yeah, it was great. It was great.
But yeah, I kept Brie in there so I'd have to sneak down at
night, two, 3:00 in the morning when they wouldn't have no clue
that I was in there. And I'd be like, here you go,
bitch. Here's your apple.
Here's your salt crackers. Yeah.

(40:11):
Fun times in the manner that's it telling you if this, if this
house itself could like, write abook.
Yeah, it's. Yeah, I'd read every volume of
that. Thank you.
And I gave her two buckets, mindyou, because I wasn't going to
change out her bucket. Oh, and that every bit of that
scene that you're describing, yes, it's every one of these
points that we're talking about today.

(40:32):
I mean, that's, yeah, like I said, you got it down to a tee.
PO I did not need, I did not need Eva Harmon or anyone else
to tell me how to do this. For some reason it's kind of
ingrained in my soul, just. Came naturally to you just.
Came natural. Things are that way.
It is. Awesome.
But my point with all this is I think we're naturally ingrained
for something in our in our mind.

(40:54):
So, you know, it's destiny and what we are.
We all got that rabbit hole. Just how far down does it go?
Exactly. All right, so PO, Are you ready?
I'm ready. Alright, so until then, this has
been the latest episode PO of. Call me Mistress.