May 19, 2025 • 34 mins
EVERYONE HAS THEIR OWN INTERPRETATION OF CUCKOLDING.. SO YOU BE THE JUDGE ON THIS! IS IT YOUR FANTASY TO WATCH YOUR WIFE WITH ANOTHER MAN.. WE DON'T JUDGE! DO YOU WANT TO DO DIRTY THINGS WITH HER AFTER SHE'S BEEN TOUCHED BY ANOTHER MAN?? TELL US ALL ABOUT IT!
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Hi, welcome to the latest episode of Call Me Mistress.
If you all. Were only in here just a few
moments, you could have heard the banter between Liv and
Charles because they would not shut the fuck up.
It's our problem. We just love to talk.
It's a hot. Subject.
So the hot subject we're going to talk about today is
cuckolding. And a lot of people bring it up,
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a lot of people do it, and it's very taboo to a lot of people,
obviously. All right, I've got my coffee
now. Jesus Christmas.
So Liv and I were going over an article on Psychology Today.
This guy, he did an interview. They were talking about it.
This person has done a lot of extensive research, I mean, 4000
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plus people. And the topic of cuckolding is
easily defined when you're watching your partner in a
sexual interaction with someone else, OK, And it's typically a
woman who is participating in sex and the guy is being
cuckolded. That's typically what everybody
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associates that with. Now, a lot of people's idea of
cuckolding is different. Their their ideal, you know,
situation is always different. A lot of people contact me and
say, oh, hey, Mistress Mia, do you do cock holding in the
dungeon? I'm like, no, no one's going to
go down on me. No one's going down live.
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We're not doing any of that. But everybody wants that, you
know, and a lot of it they do. You just don't know.
You don't get the phone calls like God.
Yeah. So ultimately people that are
our slaves, IE Charles is sitting here staring at us.
In his little baby chair in. His little baby chair.
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He loves the idea of cuckolding.So, Charles, tell us you've done
this before. You've done a lot.
So you're big voyeur. You like to watch couples.
Oh, yeah. And you've participated with
couples in the sense of cuckolding?
Well. Yes and no.
I watched couples but it wasn't always cuckolding.
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OK. Just clearly, yeah, because.
You're watching doesn't mean that.
OK, The traditional cuckold thatI know of is a husband and wife,
and the husband is made to watchher be satisfied by a real man.
There you go. Now my situation, I was never
married, so I'm always like the third person.
But the basic of cuckold is you have a a woman who's denying you
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access to her sexuality. So she's with the alpha male of
the bull and the lesser male gets to watch and sometimes it's
a female that gets to watch and that's called cuck queen.
But so I've always been like thethe third wheel.
I've watched this voyeur, but that was a cup holder.
But when I was a cup holder, they let me know why I wasn't
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allowed to have sex. You know, it's kind of the
verbal humiliation. Oh, you're too small, you finish
too quick. You're not a real man, you're
not allowed. And sometimes they let you
participate, like by going down on her or him giving them ready.
You watch. And then when it's over,
sometimes there's a cleanup. Not always, but sometimes.
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Yeah, I've noticed a lot of people in the lifestyle, they'll
say to me, well, I'll drop off my wife and her friends and
they'll go out for the night. And when she wants me to pick
her up at a hotel, for example, you know, she's obviously had a
good time. She'll, she's had sex and then
I'll go home and she'll let me clean up and go down on her.
And after she's been filled withsome strange man's come.
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Isn't that erotic? That was a little different.
That's. Different.
But I've done it too where they were condoms.
It wasn't always a clean up. It was in fact there was a guy
in there 1st and he like he marched his territory.
It doesn't have to be a a sloppymess.
It was just some guy was in there and went OK, now you can
eat at no other time. It's like a.
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It's almost animalistic, though isn't.
It but when I was in high schoolwas the first time I actually
kind of got a whiff of this because of Buddy of Bond.
Well, hang on. He says, OK, yeah, he's you can
go down to my girlfriend. I'm like, what?
OK. And he says about I have to I
want to fuck her first. And I was like, the truth is I
would have done it in a second, but my friends heard it and I
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didn't want to, you know, dive into that.
But that was the alpha male. Yeah, you can have a little
taste, but I'm going to mark it first anyway.
That was my first introduction to.
I just didn't know what it was. Wow.
In hindsight, yeah, I would havegone to chow town with everybody
watch, but I'm a car. Right now, that's great.
It's an alpha thing and I'm sureit's been done a lot and people
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just didn't throw a name on it, you know?
Clearly, because it's, it's likean ego boost.
I mean, obviously your friend's alpha male and here he is in
high school. He's a fucking high schooler.
Oh, this dude's a poon hound. Yeah.
And he had this, this one girl for quite a while and he knew we
all liked her and she was a lot of fun.
She was gorgeous. And they knew I was a pervert
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already. I mean, it's just, I guess I
didn't hide it very well. Don't hide it well now you
didn't learn how to hide it through the year.
I'm not. Hiding it now, I don't care.
Oh, OK. I'm too old to fucking worry
about. That he's like, there is no
concealed carry here. No, there's no concealed carry.
I don't think I concealed shit. No, but.
Anyway, so that's. And so, Liv, we were talking
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about this a little earlier, butyou had a three-way with your
boyfriend. Yeah.
And you were more or less the fluffer in the situation for
her. Are you ready?
Yeah. Get to admire what is about to
be destroyed, you know? Yes.
And now you like watching your partner have sex.
Yeah, I don't know what. I don't know the real reason as
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to behind that or where it came from.
Like you said, you had your yourexperience.
I don't know where mine came from but I've always been into
watching. Well, Mrs. Griswold's like that
too. Well, I don't know.
Yeah, she loves to watch her husband, you know, fuck some
other. Woman, it's, it's a primal thing
for sure, because then you, you get that sense of jealousy and I
literally run off that jealousy.I'm like, it's a, it's a drug,
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Yeah. But I think there's a difference
between just watching a cup holdup or cut clean because it's.
Being made to watch. Made to watch or I guess it's
everything's in context because watching your partner have sex
is fun, but it doesn't have to be cup holding just because you
watch. Yeah, being tied up in the
corner and. I think there's all the little
steps you add to it. So oh, you want to have some of
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this but you can't because you've been bad or you're not
good enough or some shit like that.
It's all, it's all in the fucking head.
Just watching people all. BDSM is is a mind fuck anyways.
Yeah, I'd say 99% of it probably.
Which is why after you're in thelifestyle, it's really hard to
get off on a vanilla way, because you're not.
Working the mind anymore tainted.
Yeah, so what's it like slurpingup another man's cum once it's
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been on a vagina? I will.
Tell you what happened the last time I did it and it was
hilarious. I was with this couple, this
black couple, a very nice lady. Oh my God, just the the pink is
the pink anyway. Not her personality, just her
pussy. The nicest lady ever.
She was, she was, she was a lot of fun.
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She was the one I did my first golden shower with and it was
hilarious because we we weren't expecting the power of the
stream and I was in the bathroomfloor just covered in her piss
and we were both laughing our asses off because it was so
ridiculous. That's awesome, So.
Later we did a cuckolding session.
She brought her bull over and hedidn't.
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He was completely straight. So he allowed me to watch, but I
couldn't fluff him. But I went down on her getting
her ready. So they started having sex and
she had me in a corner tied up. So I watched him and yeah, he
did very. He did a good job.
I could never compete with what this guy did.
He was like 10 inches and just they went for like an hour.
OK, so after this, he basically jizzed all over her, her her
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booty, which was just OK. So anyway, she had me go in
there and lick her ass and pussyand all this and I was like, I
was going at it and I couldn't go for very long.
She's like, what is it? And I'm like, it smells like
nuts because he didn't wash his balls.
It was all musky. So I couldn't I couldn't keep
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going. But she was laughing so fucking
hard. I thought she was going to cry.
And I kind of I started laughingtoo, but I had a mouthful of his
stuff and it was he didn't wash his nuts.
That was my biggest thing was like.
You had a great experience with this.
Well, not that part. Licking her afterwards was cool.
Watching was cool. The the nut was thick and
abundant. He was dehydrated.
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He was a black dude. I mean he just just, it was like
it was like a hose. OK.
But the thing was, it was the the musky nut smell on her once
glorious tasting pussy and ass. But I said it smells like nuts.
And she started laughing. And then I told I was going to
not do cup holding after that for a while, I talked to a
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couple online that I was supposed to go meet and I told
him what happened. I said yeah, I couldn't do that
because it smelled like balls. And he said about the laugh
emojis all across the page. She thought it was hilarious.
But yeah, she should have made you do it anyway.
I did do it anyway, yeah. It made you.
Do it anyway. Well, she had.
She started laughing too hard atthat point, and I'd already
cleaned her. Yeah, it tasted like nuts.
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Or smelled like nuts. Anyway, that was my last
experience with that. That's awesome.
I think that's pretty cool, honestly.
So based on the article that we read too, it says that gay men
fantasize about cuckolding, but they don't say that it's
cuckolding. They don't specialize or
generalize it in that sense. It's more or less.
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I'm assuming they're thinking more or less like an orgy or
just a three-way. Oh, they don't, you know, they
don't kind of classify it as cuck holding.
Gay men do it too. They do, but I'll.
Never have dug too far into that.
Yeah, the the article read they,they based it on 600 gay men and
they asked, you know, everyone in that, in that 600 people if
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they classified it as cuck holding and they said no, it was
a three-way with their partner. OK, now, I mean, Liv and I were
talking earlier, we were also talking about hot wifing and
she'd really not heard of that term, that expression.
But you know, hot wifing, from what we've read and what we
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know, you and I, Charles, based on swingers and that kind of
thing, we've met a lot of them and it's more or less like the
hot wife is this prize piece. What's great though is when you
meet some fuglies and they thinkthey have a hot wife and they
put on their hot wife and I was like bitch, stop from.
What I saw, what necessarily did, she was like extremely
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attractive. It was that she goes out and
gets all the sex she wants. Because I'm.
Sorry, I mean, I get it though. Hot wife thing you're seeing hot
wife. I sound like a superficial
bitch, I really do, but I'm allowed to be.
I don't give a fuck. The point of it is if you're a
hot wife and you're hot wife thing, then you need to be a hot
wife. Then again, that's relative.
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Well, it is, but you know, I automatically think of someone
in my mind that I know personally who is a friend of me
now. And the bitch guess yeah, I mean
like because I should always puton her profile, you know, hot
wife. And I'm like oh please bitch,
please stop. But anyway, I will stop being
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mean. I'm just saying it is very
impossible because I can be verymean.
I don't give a fuck, all right? So what else did we get from
this article? If.
The cheating and the guilt and how it makes you feel whenever.
Like is it cheating? Or you know about it.
Yeah, the difference between cheating and cooking.
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As the traditional cuckold in ancient days, the cuckold, He
may or may not have known his wife was cheating, but he was
still a cuckold because, you know, it just happened.
You ever seen that, though? The old cartoons with the horns,
they meant to cut the cup, the horns of a cuckold back in the
day, you know, like medieval ages, they would actually make a
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guy who he couldn't keep his wife under control.
They would put horns on his headand they call it wearing the
horns of a cuckold. That way everybody in town knew
of his shame that he couldn't control his wife and she was out
having adulterous affairs. Wow.
Wow. That is a lot of shit in back in
the old days and these, these motherfuckers.
Yeah. And his church stuff and the
other one, there was another story attached to this about the
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punishment he would have to havefor not keeping her in line.
But it just kind of evolved out of that.
It was basically started as cheating.
So I guess all cheating at that point was kind of cuckolding to
the male because it was, oh, he should have been able.
To. That or keep her under control.
Because back in the day it wasn't about satisfying.
It was simply, you know, the man's in charge of the marriage.
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Especially like an old England. But that's where this shit came
from long time ago. You know, Charles and I watch
that show Ghosts, the the comedy.
It's hilarious. But they've often referenced
poor Pete as being the cuckold. They'll say, oh, listen to the
cuckold. Listen to the cuck.
Because because his wife was outon him, you know.
Yeah, yes, quite a bit. The old version of cuckolding
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was yes, some some ladies out there banging everybody and the
rest of the town knows it, but Dupus doesn't.
Well, some people fantasize about them cheating, and that's
a sexual thing anyways. And it takes away the guilt,
which is what that was. Yeah.
You know, take it takes away theguilt when you can be there.
You are allowing them to experience this, you know.
And to me, it's just hot. It doesn't have to be a lot of
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psychology behind it. It's fun to watch.
Well, you know, and see, that's someone who's experienced it,
you know, but that's often what happens is, you know, it's like
you like being a crossdresser, you know, and it's like you
really don't care. Why do you like feeling that
way? It's just like Liv and I, we
have our sexual desires and whatwe like, but it's like we kind
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of don't even care. And that's our normal.
It's your normal, right? But that's why, you know,
there's listeners out there and they're like, God, I wonder why
I like this, you know? Does it make me, you know, feel
bad? Does it make me feel wrong that
I want to see, you know, like cut coding?
You know that I want that kind of relationship?
Yeah. Are you a Sinner?
And all this stuff? That's really what I felt like
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because I how I was able to get through my marriage because I
was married to somebody and I really wanted to see him be with
somebody was we had that that pocket pussy that was like a
full one with an ass and everything.
And I would make him eat it out and I would come to him doing
that. And that was how I got through
life. And I was.
I knew that if we did that forever, I'd be fine.
And you just wanted to see him do something with another.
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I really wanted to see him do something.
With him, because you know he didn't.
You wanted to see him get extra pleasure or you didn't.
I. Wanted him to give the pleasure.
OK, you just wanted to watch. I wanted to watch.
Just like boy you're, I'd say. But he never wanted to do that.
It was a center in his head. But he was able to work with me
with the whole pocket pussy thing.
That was just compromised. Yeah, and he did it.
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He he got into it. He did really well.
So again, the psychology of this, I know it's kind of like
it's like a weird subject, but in general you were saying
earlier that with your ex partner, you're in your
marriage, you want to see him give pleasure.
Yes, OK. And then you did the three-way
with your boyfriend and. That was the first experience I
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got to have a partner be yes, and that's different, but you
can watch people all day. But when it's your partner and
you're emotionally attached to it, it's a totally different
experience. I have never actually done that.
That's way better I. Imagine it would be, but I've
never been in that spot. Well, I think the emotion would
be like 100 times better. People I knew.
I kind of knew them, but it wasn't, you know?
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Intimately. It was just, it was more kink.
It really didn't hurt. Oh, you're not good enough to
fuck me? In fact, I don't care this is
this is just fun. I don't wanna be hurt by it.
Don't tell me I'm not good enough.
That's why I was like one, yeah,it was OK.
It's probably different from animals.
It's probably different for everybody.
You know each person to their. Own you know now, you said
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before with when you're partnered up with a woman during
sex, you don't want to be the dominant.
I'd be that whenever I'm in witha three-way.
Yeah. I don't know how because I'm
with my partner. I want to be the dominant one
because I don't want her going down on me.
I don't want the attention. I'd rather her have all the
attention. Mm.
Hmm but whenever I had a threesome with a with a female,
she gave me all the attention soI don't know where my brain
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would rather lie because I've only.
Had a couple experiences. Well, you know, when I've talked
to different people, we had someone come into the dungeon
one time and they said, you know, I envision myself as that
woman getting fucked. Yes, that's that's what I do.
OK. And that's what I was going.
To do I get to know what it feels like because I know him,
yeah, but I get to watch it and then I get fucked by him.
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And then I know what she got to experience it.
But I also got to envision. So now whenever I think about
myself getting fucked by him, I can see it.
It's not just like in a mirror. I literally can see what he
does. And wow, I don't know why.
That's interesting, isn't it? Yeah, Especially.
Whenever he gets all like animalY with it, yeah, you're like,
God. He does it to me, Taylor.
That's all primal and dirty, yeah.
Heard some people on Fetlife talk about it and they were kind
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of putting cuckolding into a theman pretends himself being the
woman who's being fucked by the bull and maybe some guys.
Exactly. Maybe I never have really put my
mind in that that, but I did remember I read about that some
people would, you know, that's how they looked at it.
They were fantasizing. They were the 1 getting all the
Dick and we talked about that people we've met.
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They they can't go out and do all these things.
So they're delivering vicariously through the wall.
Now, in this survey that they did on this article, they said
that they interviewed 4200 people.
That's a lot of fucking people. And they said primarily they
were either gay or bi. And they felt more comfortable
having that cuckold fantasy because it's like for some
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reason they wanted to watch. They wanted to feel empowered in
that situation. But you know, more or less they
were gay or bi in that situation.
I feel like with my partner, because I think he's into it, I
think he would be the one to be like the bull and make somebody
else watch. I think that's what he would
want. Now that we've been sitting here
talking about it, I was like, I feel like that would be
something he would. Want to do?
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Yeah. Like, you can't have it.
Yeah, but I got to have it. Yeah.
So it's really how it's perspective, how everyone views
it. It's their own, based on their
own experience and. There's probably 100 different
ways. Exactly 1,000,000 different.
Ways Exactly. And the point of it is the
reason why we talk this out is because you all have experienced
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this and in your situation, you like they the concept of it
being like a degradation, humiliation in a sense.
That's the theory, yeah. But I never really actually felt
those things, you know, they said them.
And it's more like we're, we're doing this well, I'm watching
because I really, I didn't know them that well.
So it really wasn't. Yeah, the yeah, like we're
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saying the intimate. Sting.
It didn't sting as much. Gotcha.
Now I've had girlfriends that had cheated on me before, so
technically I guess I was cookedthat way, but I didn't.
I didn't. I wasn't allowed watch or
anything that would that would have been more intense
emotionally. I think the that that brain
candy would have been a lot better.
I like that brain candy. How'd that work?
That's good. Me and oxytocin and all that
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good shit. It's all together and it's game.
It's true. It's literally the best.
You can't have a better hide than that.
There's a lot of good hives. For me, I won't go anything
further. I won't go to do the.
Drugs. I will.
OK. The point of it is, if people
are experiencing it, they're notfreaks for wanting to do it, you
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know? Well, because it becomes your
normal. I don't even feel like a freak.
Anymore is considered taboo is because other people said it
was. Society.
And they're usually doing worse shit than any of us are when the
truth finally comes out, especially in churches.
Like touching little. Boys, seriously no, the church,
they always, they get caught doing the worst fucking shit.
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We're and then they're judging us outwardly whenever they're.
Doing shit between consenting adults, it's a little outside of
normal, but no, nobody's really getting hurt unless they like
it, you know? Yeah.
Yeah, you've both experienced this.
I was raised Catholic. I I didn't experience this at
all. We were all about free love and
having fun, you know? Grew up in the South and went to
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those churches. Yeah, you do.
The coppers were not about freedom.
No, they were not. Except for what they were doing
behind closed doors later, yearslater when it comes out.
Yeah. Anyway, did I mention we're in
186 countries now? Yeah, you did tell me that. 186
countries. What's the latest edition?
I don't remember. Yeah, I don't remember which
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country. It was Malawi was 185.
Yeah, I don't know what. I don't know which one.
Before that, a lot of the Africans were watching.
Yeah. Yeah, I love that because I
think about that. Big Dicks.
They're beautiful. I love black folks.
Absolutely big Dicks. That's a bonus.
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You know, at Cracker Barrel, they had this thing on
Valentine's Day. It was a little black chocolate
man and it said it was, it was muscular and I would just be
like, hey, you want, you want mylittle chocolate man?
And I'd be handing them out as ahost.
That's hilarious, that. Sounds kind of like.
Anti Cracker Barrel. Oh yeah.
And my manager was a black man and he came up and he said it
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was racist. I didn't feel like it was
racist, but. This seems weird.
Definitely. Cracker Barrel, Well, I'm I'm
just a weird individual. Individual, really.
I thought it was funny that it was Cracker Barrel.
All these older Christian peoplecoming in that doesn't.
Feel right. You want to taste like my little
black man? There you go.
Doesn't. Really feel right.
I don't want to. Comment on that.
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All right, so in the closing of this article, God, that's that
is fucking hilarious. I can just imagine that.
They don't sell them anymore, they only sell them.
They sell the white chocolate ones though.
Oh my Exactly. I never opened it up OK.
Wow, I would love. To see what's behind that
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underwear. Because it's just.
A naked little man with a with little red underwear on.
Well, everybody pulled down the pants on a candle.
I mean, yeah, and. There was nothing there.
It had a little bit of a bulge. I would get turned on by that
little bulge because. The ones I saw had nothing.
You're probably petting it and licking it next to your Kool-aid
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pillow. Oh, I make my Barbies do it.
Yeah, Barbies were kinky. I was going to say, I think all
girls were fondling their Barbies and putting them in
sexual positions. Yeah, nice.
That's one of the store. Yeah, totally. 6 toys when?
I don't know. We can't go back too early.
It's gonna get creepy. That time I like the vacuum
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cleaners. Yeah, it's actually not that
fun. Liv had a no.
She had social experience with her vacuum with her vacuum.
It was the shop vacuum that my stepdad put in my room to clean
up my room, and it would only gooff about two minutes of time of
the day. I'm surprised that they didn't
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realize what I was doing becauseit'll only be on for two
minutes, but I put it in there and make it go like it's so big
to go and it felt good. Nice, now see that I need to be
on video, yeah? I love my vacuum cleaner.
Literally. Literally.
If any guys have actually had a good time with their vacuum
cleaner, because I think a lot of us have done it, but it just
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didn't go well. Maybe if you use a shot vac it's
a bigger hole. Make it, make it flop around in
there. I don't want mine to fly off
it's I don't have much there to live.
You know what? We didn't get the shot.
Vacuum. Pull it.
Put your pants down. Let me try this.
We don't have a shot. Vacuum.
Yes, we do. Not up here.
I don't I don't think we need totaint my husband's shop vac
anybody's penis. He's.
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Not gonna like that. It wouldn't pass it around.
You'll never know. No, we'll pass it around.
Down pass it around. Real quick.
Yes, so. I'll watch, I'll do it.
So. That's my vacuum cleaner.
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With robots. What is that?
I'm saying what? Would be the word.
For it, somebody's going to makesomething up for.
Sexual robotics Now at the end of this article they said how do
you approach someone, your partner in wanting this type of
fantasy? Well, they first said don't give
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all your fantasies up at once, go slowly.
And they said start with the most vanilla and then go from
there. Yeah, work your way up and see
what they kind of. Like I tried before I got
dumped. I feel like I need to give the
worst one up front. Yeah.
Why is the biggest one up front?And then work your way down from
there. You know, there might be
something to that. Somebody just figured this shit
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out. It is not me.
Me neither. I just I tried to be honest and
I got. Well, if you're with somebody
that is vanilla and you throw out your kink, then they they
just narrows it down. You don't meet that person.
I know I went for the lightest shit I could think of but.
That wasn't your person. Obviously and it was like, but
other people, I've heard of someguys, this is for beware because
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usually when a woman gets if shedoes get into it, she's never
going to let that let go of it. So you're not going to try it
for a few times. She's going to become a hot wife
and you, Sir, are not going to get anymore Pootie.
Yeah, you got to be very carefulwith a woman.
Doing you make sure you want make sure that's what you want,
because a lot of if you actually.
No communication in respect. If you're with a partner that
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has good communication and respect then you can have these
things. Otherwise you shouldn't have it.
See, you're talking about a goodrelationship and I see that a
lot of people, hence why they come to see us.
It's because they really can't tell their partners the honest
truth about a lot of things. I hate that for them.
I know I hate it for them too, Ireally do.
But it's part of why they're still with their partners is
because they they couldn't, theydidn't tell the truth.
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They're coming here to get theiritch scratched.
Very true. People tell the truth and they
get fucked for. It very true.
It's I'm. New and are successful.
But you know, I feel like we're doing their spouses favors if
we're dressing them up and crossdressing them and doing this.
We're doing a good service for people and a lot of people are
battling with things more dark, but they want to do and they,
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you know, they don't want to accept it.
So they want to, like, fulfill it without actually doing it.
Like get like an itch scratched.Not fully.
This is a little off topic. Do you remember that?
That maybe the little whore house?
Best little whore house in Texas.
Of course I do. Remember.
A lot of that you would like it live on.
Sunday afternoon they would the the married men would come over
and they would go to the brothel.
And a lot of the wives knew about it because that way they
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knew their husband needed something, you know, he needed
his itch scratched. And they were OK, but some of
them were OK with it. It was, they didn't talk about
it, but they were OK with it. And I think a lot of that if
you, you know, your partner has an itch that needs to be
scratched and you don't want to scratch it, they have to get it.
Clearly you could accept them, you know, just needing to have
their thing. But I remember that from that
movie, because it was something about the old timer.
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They would come after church andgo get their, get their weight
wet or whatever. And it was just a little
something extra. We have a crossdresser and he
comes to see us twice a week a lot of times.
And he has a wife. And the whole situation is it
was New Year's Eve and he told her, he said, look, I can go to
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the hunting camp or I can stay home with you.
And she's like New Year's Eve. Go to the hunting camp.
Who says that to their, you know, their partner, They're
they're one that they're supposed to.
It's about New Year's Eve, yes, Bring in the new year with your
partner. Yes, somehow she wanted to do.
Yeah, somebody. Yeah.
Exactly she wanted to. Bring in the new year with
somebody else. I think she's aware of what her
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husband is. She doesn't want to be involved
and that's just how it is. Because I know that he'd
mentioned to her before how he likes to wear panties, for
example, but he didn't give her the full scoop.
And she's like, yeah, I can't dothat.
He tried to tiptoe into it, and yes, he saw the roadblock right
there. Right there and it was done.
You need to do that in your dating phase, not in your
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marriage. Agreed.
Agreed. People evolved.
That's true. Because I wasn't into everything
that is true first I kind of tiptoed and then.
I wasn't always into it so. It was an avalanche.
In the beginning it was all about spanking and candle wax
and then it just barrel rolled and everything else.
And then I get older. I have narrowed down my list of
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favorites. But for a while, I wanted to try
everything. But in the beginning, yeah.
You evolved like cuckolding. I wasn't into that until later.
It's true. It was just like a brief time,
too. Now it's like that.
It's OK. I can try it.
Maybe again. You.
Know, I wonder if it if Mia did it, would that affect you?
Oh God, yeah. Yeah, so you're emotional.
Yeah, well, I'm obviously like her.
I. Mean, I know, I'm saying that's
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where you would get the full effect of.
It it would be from emotion at this point instead of just
visual or just because I'm trying something.
Not saying that I'm. For a spanking, I can get
spanked from anybody and it's nice.
But when it's somebody that's and you like, I don't want to
just disappoint this person. Oh, that's yeah, like she's
pretty much the only one now. Everybody else, I'm just I'm
fucking done with them as as faras disappointing, like I tried
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my best, if it wasn't good enough, fuck off.
But her I still feel bad. Tell everyone how I choked you
with the plastic bag over your head the other night.
What did you do? Tell them how much you like that
one, Charles. I liked it a lot.
I was I was sitting in front of her and she put the the clear
plastic bag on my head while I was masturbating.
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Masturbating. This winky let.
Me have a bit of air once in a while because I was going and I
wasn't trying to hurry up and finish, I was trying to prolong
yeah. And eventually she says you
better hurry. And she let the bag on.
So I was trying to wait, wait, wait.
That was awesome. I think the one that was
actually better was the the scarf that we rigged up.
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Yeah, that was she went for the carotid.
That was hot. It took me a few minutes to
recover from that because nobodyever really got there and did
that perfect before. They tried.
And it wasn't on the the trachea.
It was on the carotid. And it started blacking out and
it was like, it was very nice. It was quite before.
I was showing Liv and Evie kind of the same scenario, but I
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didn't have the scarf. You took it home.
I said this is Charles scarf, soit's it's his.
So we'll have to find other implements to use.
But a scarf is always a go to ora nice like fabric belt that's
always great. It was nice.
It was nice. He loved it.
But you all haven't met Edie. But we we saw this really hot
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cross dresser the other night. And I will still go on about
this cross dresser. But my point of it is if my
spouse were to come to me after we've been married for 10 plus
years now and said hey honey, I want to cross dress, I'd be
like, yeah, I'll do it. But you're you.
But I'm me. Everybody in this room has got
an open mind. I know Liv would do it, you
would do it, but it's the sad thing that so many people are
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missing out on that and helping their partners.
Brainwashing society just brainwash them.
At some point you got to save any.
Think about what these people pushing your heads.
Or they just don't care enough. Yeah, You know, I don't know,
caring. I think they just, they, they
drink the kool-aid and they put a bubble of reality around
themselves. And you know you're supposed to
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do this and do that and. Yeah, the Bible says this.
The Bible says. That yeah, that book has been
translated for. I'm just.
Saying that, that's where a lot of people get held back and
you're like God was we were madein his image and a whole lot of
us are like alike. And I'm sure a lot of them are
alike. They're just not able to accept
it in themselves. They just don't say it.
We're we, we've gotten to the point where we can say it out
loud and honestly, we're probably not 100% honest with
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everybody because we don't go toWalmart and announcing it to
the. World I will, I told my nail
lady. Oh my.
Gosh, I'm telling more people that I know, but most of them is
just IT really in their business.
Yeah, I don't. Tell my mom and stuff.
I didn't tell her, but I think it honestly I'm getting to the
point where it's going to be fucking hilarious when I do just
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to keep her. From you need to do it when
you're like, really fucking old.No, no, I need to do it when I'm
mad. Oh, mad.
And say, where did you go this weekend?
Well, I did all kind of shit this weekend.
First they had me tied up to a cross and then there was 15
people having a gangbang across the room.
Just watch her drop. I'm sorry.
So no, you're OK. What?
What did your nail tech? What'd she say?
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She was. She got a little bit weirded
out. Yeah.
I loved it, Yeah. Oh, 'cause it was kind of like,
yes, feel the uncomfortable. Yes, I love making the
uncomfortable. Nice.
What did you? Tell her exactly you were.
Dominatrix might be men for a living.
Oh nice. She's like, what?
Is that why you get your nails like this?
Yes. I wanna black and.
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Point it, get it also. Your toes are done too.
Yes, my toes are done block. Very nice.
Yes, love it. They were looking a little
Christy Dusty last time you justsaw them.
They they needed some work last time.
I can't talk, mine are horrible.Alright, shall we paint them?
We'll just paint them. Probably next week.
Alright, all right kids, this has been interesting so.
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It's never not interesting cop. Holding 101.
This is great. So Liv, this has been a great
episode. Thank you again.
And until then, this has been the latest episode of.
Coffee Mistress.
Hi, welcome to the latest episode of Call Me Mistress.
If you all. Were only in here just a few
moments, you could have heard the banter between Liv and
Charles because they would not shut the fuck up.
It's our problem. We just love to talk.
It's a hot. Subject.
So the hot subject we're going to talk about today is
cuckolding. And a lot of people bring it up,
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a lot of people do it, and it's very taboo to a lot of people,
obviously. All right, I've got my coffee
now. Jesus Christmas.
So Liv and I were going over an article on Psychology Today.
This guy, he did an interview. They were talking about it.
This person has done a lot of extensive research, I mean, 4000
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plus people. And the topic of cuckolding is
easily defined when you're watching your partner in a
sexual interaction with someone else, OK, And it's typically a
woman who is participating in sex and the guy is being
cuckolded. That's typically what everybody
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associates that with. Now, a lot of people's idea of
cuckolding is different. Their their ideal, you know,
situation is always different. A lot of people contact me and
say, oh, hey, Mistress Mia, do you do cock holding in the
dungeon? I'm like, no, no one's going to
go down on me. No one's going down live.
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We're not doing any of that. But everybody wants that, you
know, and a lot of it they do. You just don't know.
You don't get the phone calls like God.
Yeah. So ultimately people that are
our slaves, IE Charles is sitting here staring at us.
In his little baby chair in. His little baby chair.
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He loves the idea of cuckolding.So, Charles, tell us you've done
this before. You've done a lot.
So you're big voyeur. You like to watch couples.
Oh, yeah. And you've participated with
couples in the sense of cuckolding?
Well. Yes and no.
I watched couples but it wasn't always cuckolding.
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OK. Just clearly, yeah, because.
You're watching doesn't mean that.
OK, The traditional cuckold thatI know of is a husband and wife,
and the husband is made to watchher be satisfied by a real man.
There you go. Now my situation, I was never
married, so I'm always like the third person.
But the basic of cuckold is you have a a woman who's denying you
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access to her sexuality. So she's with the alpha male of
the bull and the lesser male gets to watch and sometimes it's
a female that gets to watch and that's called cuck queen.
But so I've always been like thethe third wheel.
I've watched this voyeur, but that was a cup holder.
But when I was a cup holder, they let me know why I wasn't
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allowed to have sex. You know, it's kind of the
verbal humiliation. Oh, you're too small, you finish
too quick. You're not a real man, you're
not allowed. And sometimes they let you
participate, like by going down on her or him giving them ready.
You watch. And then when it's over,
sometimes there's a cleanup. Not always, but sometimes.
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Yeah, I've noticed a lot of people in the lifestyle, they'll
say to me, well, I'll drop off my wife and her friends and
they'll go out for the night. And when she wants me to pick
her up at a hotel, for example, you know, she's obviously had a
good time. She'll, she's had sex and then
I'll go home and she'll let me clean up and go down on her.
And after she's been filled withsome strange man's come.
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Isn't that erotic? That was a little different.
That's. Different.
But I've done it too where they were condoms.
It wasn't always a clean up. It was in fact there was a guy
in there 1st and he like he marched his territory.
It doesn't have to be a a sloppymess.
It was just some guy was in there and went OK, now you can
eat at no other time. It's like a.
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It's almost animalistic, though isn't.
It but when I was in high schoolwas the first time I actually
kind of got a whiff of this because of Buddy of Bond.
Well, hang on. He says, OK, yeah, he's you can
go down to my girlfriend. I'm like, what?
OK. And he says about I have to I
want to fuck her first. And I was like, the truth is I
would have done it in a second, but my friends heard it and I
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didn't want to, you know, dive into that.
But that was the alpha male. Yeah, you can have a little
taste, but I'm going to mark it first anyway.
That was my first introduction to.
I just didn't know what it was. Wow.
In hindsight, yeah, I would havegone to chow town with everybody
watch, but I'm a car. Right now, that's great.
It's an alpha thing and I'm sureit's been done a lot and people
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just didn't throw a name on it, you know?
Clearly, because it's, it's likean ego boost.
I mean, obviously your friend's alpha male and here he is in
high school. He's a fucking high schooler.
Oh, this dude's a poon hound. Yeah.
And he had this, this one girl for quite a while and he knew we
all liked her and she was a lot of fun.
She was gorgeous. And they knew I was a pervert
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already. I mean, it's just, I guess I
didn't hide it very well. Don't hide it well now you
didn't learn how to hide it through the year.
I'm not. Hiding it now, I don't care.
Oh, OK. I'm too old to fucking worry
about. That he's like, there is no
concealed carry here. No, there's no concealed carry.
I don't think I concealed shit. No, but.
Anyway, so that's. And so, Liv, we were talking
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about this a little earlier, butyou had a three-way with your
boyfriend. Yeah.
And you were more or less the fluffer in the situation for
her. Are you ready?
Yeah. Get to admire what is about to
be destroyed, you know? Yes.
And now you like watching your partner have sex.
Yeah, I don't know what. I don't know the real reason as
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to behind that or where it came from.
Like you said, you had your yourexperience.
I don't know where mine came from but I've always been into
watching. Well, Mrs. Griswold's like that
too. Well, I don't know.
Yeah, she loves to watch her husband, you know, fuck some
other. Woman, it's, it's a primal thing
for sure, because then you, you get that sense of jealousy and I
literally run off that jealousy.I'm like, it's a, it's a drug,
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Yeah. But I think there's a difference
between just watching a cup holdup or cut clean because it's.
Being made to watch. Made to watch or I guess it's
everything's in context because watching your partner have sex
is fun, but it doesn't have to be cup holding just because you
watch. Yeah, being tied up in the
corner and. I think there's all the little
steps you add to it. So oh, you want to have some of
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this but you can't because you've been bad or you're not
good enough or some shit like that.
It's all, it's all in the fucking head.
Just watching people all. BDSM is is a mind fuck anyways.
Yeah, I'd say 99% of it probably.
Which is why after you're in thelifestyle, it's really hard to
get off on a vanilla way, because you're not.
Working the mind anymore tainted.
Yeah, so what's it like slurpingup another man's cum once it's
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been on a vagina? I will.
Tell you what happened the last time I did it and it was
hilarious. I was with this couple, this
black couple, a very nice lady. Oh my God, just the the pink is
the pink anyway. Not her personality, just her
pussy. The nicest lady ever.
She was, she was, she was a lot of fun.
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She was the one I did my first golden shower with and it was
hilarious because we we weren't expecting the power of the
stream and I was in the bathroomfloor just covered in her piss
and we were both laughing our asses off because it was so
ridiculous. That's awesome, So.
Later we did a cuckolding session.
She brought her bull over and hedidn't.
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He was completely straight. So he allowed me to watch, but I
couldn't fluff him. But I went down on her getting
her ready. So they started having sex and
she had me in a corner tied up. So I watched him and yeah, he
did very. He did a good job.
I could never compete with what this guy did.
He was like 10 inches and just they went for like an hour.
OK, so after this, he basically jizzed all over her, her her
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booty, which was just OK. So anyway, she had me go in
there and lick her ass and pussyand all this and I was like, I
was going at it and I couldn't go for very long.
She's like, what is it? And I'm like, it smells like
nuts because he didn't wash his balls.
It was all musky. So I couldn't I couldn't keep
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going. But she was laughing so fucking
hard. I thought she was going to cry.
And I kind of I started laughingtoo, but I had a mouthful of his
stuff and it was he didn't wash his nuts.
That was my biggest thing was like.
You had a great experience with this.
Well, not that part. Licking her afterwards was cool.
Watching was cool. The the nut was thick and
abundant. He was dehydrated.
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He was a black dude. I mean he just just, it was like
it was like a hose. OK.
But the thing was, it was the the musky nut smell on her once
glorious tasting pussy and ass. But I said it smells like nuts.
And she started laughing. And then I told I was going to
not do cup holding after that for a while, I talked to a
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couple online that I was supposed to go meet and I told
him what happened. I said yeah, I couldn't do that
because it smelled like balls. And he said about the laugh
emojis all across the page. She thought it was hilarious.
But yeah, she should have made you do it anyway.
I did do it anyway, yeah. It made you.
Do it anyway. Well, she had.
She started laughing too hard atthat point, and I'd already
cleaned her. Yeah, it tasted like nuts.
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Or smelled like nuts. Anyway, that was my last
experience with that. That's awesome.
I think that's pretty cool, honestly.
So based on the article that we read too, it says that gay men
fantasize about cuckolding, but they don't say that it's
cuckolding. They don't specialize or
generalize it in that sense. It's more or less.
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I'm assuming they're thinking more or less like an orgy or
just a three-way. Oh, they don't, you know, they
don't kind of classify it as cuck holding.
Gay men do it too. They do, but I'll.
Never have dug too far into that.
Yeah, the the article read they,they based it on 600 gay men and
they asked, you know, everyone in that, in that 600 people if
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they classified it as cuck holding and they said no, it was
a three-way with their partner. OK, now, I mean, Liv and I were
talking earlier, we were also talking about hot wifing and
she'd really not heard of that term, that expression.
But you know, hot wifing, from what we've read and what we
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know, you and I, Charles, based on swingers and that kind of
thing, we've met a lot of them and it's more or less like the
hot wife is this prize piece. What's great though is when you
meet some fuglies and they thinkthey have a hot wife and they
put on their hot wife and I was like bitch, stop from.
What I saw, what necessarily did, she was like extremely
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attractive. It was that she goes out and
gets all the sex she wants. Because I'm.
Sorry, I mean, I get it though. Hot wife thing you're seeing hot
wife. I sound like a superficial
bitch, I really do, but I'm allowed to be.
I don't give a fuck. The point of it is if you're a
hot wife and you're hot wife thing, then you need to be a hot
wife. Then again, that's relative.
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Well, it is, but you know, I automatically think of someone
in my mind that I know personally who is a friend of me
now. And the bitch guess yeah, I mean
like because I should always puton her profile, you know, hot
wife. And I'm like oh please bitch,
please stop. But anyway, I will stop being
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mean. I'm just saying it is very
impossible because I can be verymean.
I don't give a fuck, all right? So what else did we get from
this article? If.
The cheating and the guilt and how it makes you feel whenever.
Like is it cheating? Or you know about it.
Yeah, the difference between cheating and cooking.
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As the traditional cuckold in ancient days, the cuckold, He
may or may not have known his wife was cheating, but he was
still a cuckold because, you know, it just happened.
You ever seen that, though? The old cartoons with the horns,
they meant to cut the cup, the horns of a cuckold back in the
day, you know, like medieval ages, they would actually make a
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guy who he couldn't keep his wife under control.
They would put horns on his headand they call it wearing the
horns of a cuckold. That way everybody in town knew
of his shame that he couldn't control his wife and she was out
having adulterous affairs. Wow.
Wow. That is a lot of shit in back in
the old days and these, these motherfuckers.
Yeah. And his church stuff and the
other one, there was another story attached to this about the
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punishment he would have to havefor not keeping her in line.
But it just kind of evolved out of that.
It was basically started as cheating.
So I guess all cheating at that point was kind of cuckolding to
the male because it was, oh, he should have been able.
To. That or keep her under control.
Because back in the day it wasn't about satisfying.
It was simply, you know, the man's in charge of the marriage.
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Especially like an old England. But that's where this shit came
from long time ago. You know, Charles and I watch
that show Ghosts, the the comedy.
It's hilarious. But they've often referenced
poor Pete as being the cuckold. They'll say, oh, listen to the
cuckold. Listen to the cuck.
Because because his wife was outon him, you know.
Yeah, yes, quite a bit. The old version of cuckolding
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was yes, some some ladies out there banging everybody and the
rest of the town knows it, but Dupus doesn't.
Well, some people fantasize about them cheating, and that's
a sexual thing anyways. And it takes away the guilt,
which is what that was. Yeah.
You know, take it takes away theguilt when you can be there.
You are allowing them to experience this, you know.
And to me, it's just hot. It doesn't have to be a lot of
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psychology behind it. It's fun to watch.
Well, you know, and see, that's someone who's experienced it,
you know, but that's often what happens is, you know, it's like
you like being a crossdresser, you know, and it's like you
really don't care. Why do you like feeling that
way? It's just like Liv and I, we
have our sexual desires and whatwe like, but it's like we kind
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of don't even care. And that's our normal.
It's your normal, right? But that's why, you know,
there's listeners out there and they're like, God, I wonder why
I like this, you know? Does it make me, you know, feel
bad? Does it make me feel wrong that
I want to see, you know, like cut coding?
You know that I want that kind of relationship?
Yeah. Are you a Sinner?
And all this stuff? That's really what I felt like
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because I how I was able to get through my marriage because I
was married to somebody and I really wanted to see him be with
somebody was we had that that pocket pussy that was like a
full one with an ass and everything.
And I would make him eat it out and I would come to him doing
that. And that was how I got through
life. And I was.
I knew that if we did that forever, I'd be fine.
And you just wanted to see him do something with another.
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I really wanted to see him do something.
With him, because you know he didn't.
You wanted to see him get extra pleasure or you didn't.
I. Wanted him to give the pleasure.
OK, you just wanted to watch. I wanted to watch.
Just like boy you're, I'd say. But he never wanted to do that.
It was a center in his head. But he was able to work with me
with the whole pocket pussy thing.
That was just compromised. Yeah, and he did it.
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He he got into it. He did really well.
So again, the psychology of this, I know it's kind of like
it's like a weird subject, but in general you were saying
earlier that with your ex partner, you're in your
marriage, you want to see him give pleasure.
Yes, OK. And then you did the three-way
with your boyfriend and. That was the first experience I
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got to have a partner be yes, and that's different, but you
can watch people all day. But when it's your partner and
you're emotionally attached to it, it's a totally different
experience. I have never actually done that.
That's way better I. Imagine it would be, but I've
never been in that spot. Well, I think the emotion would
be like 100 times better. People I knew.
I kind of knew them, but it wasn't, you know?
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Intimately. It was just, it was more kink.
It really didn't hurt. Oh, you're not good enough to
fuck me? In fact, I don't care this is
this is just fun. I don't wanna be hurt by it.
Don't tell me I'm not good enough.
That's why I was like one, yeah,it was OK.
It's probably different from animals.
It's probably different for everybody.
You know each person to their. Own you know now, you said
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before with when you're partnered up with a woman during
sex, you don't want to be the dominant.
I'd be that whenever I'm in witha three-way.
Yeah. I don't know how because I'm
with my partner. I want to be the dominant one
because I don't want her going down on me.
I don't want the attention. I'd rather her have all the
attention. Mm.
Hmm but whenever I had a threesome with a with a female,
she gave me all the attention soI don't know where my brain
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would rather lie because I've only.
Had a couple experiences. Well, you know, when I've talked
to different people, we had someone come into the dungeon
one time and they said, you know, I envision myself as that
woman getting fucked. Yes, that's that's what I do.
OK. And that's what I was going.
To do I get to know what it feels like because I know him,
yeah, but I get to watch it and then I get fucked by him.
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And then I know what she got to experience it.
But I also got to envision. So now whenever I think about
myself getting fucked by him, I can see it.
It's not just like in a mirror. I literally can see what he
does. And wow, I don't know why.
That's interesting, isn't it? Yeah, Especially.
Whenever he gets all like animalY with it, yeah, you're like,
God. He does it to me, Taylor.
That's all primal and dirty, yeah.
Heard some people on Fetlife talk about it and they were kind
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of putting cuckolding into a theman pretends himself being the
woman who's being fucked by the bull and maybe some guys.
Exactly. Maybe I never have really put my
mind in that that, but I did remember I read about that some
people would, you know, that's how they looked at it.
They were fantasizing. They were the 1 getting all the
Dick and we talked about that people we've met.
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They they can't go out and do all these things.
So they're delivering vicariously through the wall.
Now, in this survey that they did on this article, they said
that they interviewed 4200 people.
That's a lot of fucking people. And they said primarily they
were either gay or bi. And they felt more comfortable
having that cuckold fantasy because it's like for some
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reason they wanted to watch. They wanted to feel empowered in
that situation. But you know, more or less they
were gay or bi in that situation.
I feel like with my partner, because I think he's into it, I
think he would be the one to be like the bull and make somebody
else watch. I think that's what he would
want. Now that we've been sitting here
talking about it, I was like, I feel like that would be
something he would. Want to do?
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Yeah. Like, you can't have it.
Yeah, but I got to have it. Yeah.
So it's really how it's perspective, how everyone views
it. It's their own, based on their
own experience and. There's probably 100 different
ways. Exactly 1,000,000 different.
Ways Exactly. And the point of it is the
reason why we talk this out is because you all have experienced
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this and in your situation, you like they the concept of it
being like a degradation, humiliation in a sense.
That's the theory, yeah. But I never really actually felt
those things, you know, they said them.
And it's more like we're, we're doing this well, I'm watching
because I really, I didn't know them that well.
So it really wasn't. Yeah, the yeah, like we're
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saying the intimate. Sting.
It didn't sting as much. Gotcha.
Now I've had girlfriends that had cheated on me before, so
technically I guess I was cookedthat way, but I didn't.
I didn't. I wasn't allowed watch or
anything that would that would have been more intense
emotionally. I think the that that brain
candy would have been a lot better.
I like that brain candy. How'd that work?
That's good. Me and oxytocin and all that
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good shit. It's all together and it's game.
It's true. It's literally the best.
You can't have a better hide than that.
There's a lot of good hives. For me, I won't go anything
further. I won't go to do the.
Drugs. I will.
OK. The point of it is, if people
are experiencing it, they're notfreaks for wanting to do it, you
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know? Well, because it becomes your
normal. I don't even feel like a freak.
Anymore is considered taboo is because other people said it
was. Society.
And they're usually doing worse shit than any of us are when the
truth finally comes out, especially in churches.
Like touching little. Boys, seriously no, the church,
they always, they get caught doing the worst fucking shit.
(20:31):
We're and then they're judging us outwardly whenever they're.
Doing shit between consenting adults, it's a little outside of
normal, but no, nobody's really getting hurt unless they like
it, you know? Yeah.
Yeah, you've both experienced this.
I was raised Catholic. I I didn't experience this at
all. We were all about free love and
having fun, you know? Grew up in the South and went to
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those churches. Yeah, you do.
The coppers were not about freedom.
No, they were not. Except for what they were doing
behind closed doors later, yearslater when it comes out.
Yeah. Anyway, did I mention we're in
186 countries now? Yeah, you did tell me that. 186
countries. What's the latest edition?
I don't remember. Yeah, I don't remember which
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country. It was Malawi was 185.
Yeah, I don't know what. I don't know which one.
Before that, a lot of the Africans were watching.
Yeah. Yeah, I love that because I
think about that. Big Dicks.
They're beautiful. I love black folks.
Absolutely big Dicks. That's a bonus.
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You know, at Cracker Barrel, they had this thing on
Valentine's Day. It was a little black chocolate
man and it said it was, it was muscular and I would just be
like, hey, you want, you want mylittle chocolate man?
And I'd be handing them out as ahost.
That's hilarious, that. Sounds kind of like.
Anti Cracker Barrel. Oh yeah.
And my manager was a black man and he came up and he said it
(21:56):
was racist. I didn't feel like it was
racist, but. This seems weird.
Definitely. Cracker Barrel, Well, I'm I'm
just a weird individual. Individual, really.
I thought it was funny that it was Cracker Barrel.
All these older Christian peoplecoming in that doesn't.
Feel right. You want to taste like my little
black man? There you go.
Doesn't. Really feel right.
I don't want to. Comment on that.
(22:19):
All right, so in the closing of this article, God, that's that
is fucking hilarious. I can just imagine that.
They don't sell them anymore, they only sell them.
They sell the white chocolate ones though.
Oh my Exactly. I never opened it up OK.
Wow, I would love. To see what's behind that
(22:40):
underwear. Because it's just.
A naked little man with a with little red underwear on.
Well, everybody pulled down the pants on a candle.
I mean, yeah, and. There was nothing there.
It had a little bit of a bulge. I would get turned on by that
little bulge because. The ones I saw had nothing.
You're probably petting it and licking it next to your Kool-aid
(23:01):
pillow. Oh, I make my Barbies do it.
Yeah, Barbies were kinky. I was going to say, I think all
girls were fondling their Barbies and putting them in
sexual positions. Yeah, nice.
That's one of the store. Yeah, totally. 6 toys when?
I don't know. We can't go back too early.
It's gonna get creepy. That time I like the vacuum
(23:21):
cleaners. Yeah, it's actually not that
fun. Liv had a no.
She had social experience with her vacuum with her vacuum.
It was the shop vacuum that my stepdad put in my room to clean
up my room, and it would only gooff about two minutes of time of
the day. I'm surprised that they didn't
(23:42):
realize what I was doing becauseit'll only be on for two
minutes, but I put it in there and make it go like it's so big
to go and it felt good. Nice, now see that I need to be
on video, yeah? I love my vacuum cleaner.
Literally. Literally.
If any guys have actually had a good time with their vacuum
cleaner, because I think a lot of us have done it, but it just
(24:04):
didn't go well. Maybe if you use a shot vac it's
a bigger hole. Make it, make it flop around in
there. I don't want mine to fly off
it's I don't have much there to live.
You know what? We didn't get the shot.
Vacuum. Pull it.
Put your pants down. Let me try this.
We don't have a shot. Vacuum.
Yes, we do. Not up here.
I don't I don't think we need totaint my husband's shop vac
anybody's penis. He's.
(24:25):
Not gonna like that. It wouldn't pass it around.
You'll never know. No, we'll pass it around.
Down pass it around. Real quick.
Yes, so. I'll watch, I'll do it.
So. That's my vacuum cleaner.
(24:46):
With robots. What is that?
I'm saying what? Would be the word.
For it, somebody's going to makesomething up for.
Sexual robotics Now at the end of this article they said how do
you approach someone, your partner in wanting this type of
fantasy? Well, they first said don't give
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all your fantasies up at once, go slowly.
And they said start with the most vanilla and then go from
there. Yeah, work your way up and see
what they kind of. Like I tried before I got
dumped. I feel like I need to give the
worst one up front. Yeah.
Why is the biggest one up front?And then work your way down from
there. You know, there might be
something to that. Somebody just figured this shit
(25:27):
out. It is not me.
Me neither. I just I tried to be honest and
I got. Well, if you're with somebody
that is vanilla and you throw out your kink, then they they
just narrows it down. You don't meet that person.
I know I went for the lightest shit I could think of but.
That wasn't your person. Obviously and it was like, but
other people, I've heard of someguys, this is for beware because
(25:50):
usually when a woman gets if shedoes get into it, she's never
going to let that let go of it. So you're not going to try it
for a few times. She's going to become a hot wife
and you, Sir, are not going to get anymore Pootie.
Yeah, you got to be very carefulwith a woman.
Doing you make sure you want make sure that's what you want,
because a lot of if you actually.
No communication in respect. If you're with a partner that
(26:13):
has good communication and respect then you can have these
things. Otherwise you shouldn't have it.
See, you're talking about a goodrelationship and I see that a
lot of people, hence why they come to see us.
It's because they really can't tell their partners the honest
truth about a lot of things. I hate that for them.
I know I hate it for them too, Ireally do.
But it's part of why they're still with their partners is
because they they couldn't, theydidn't tell the truth.
(26:35):
They're coming here to get theiritch scratched.
Very true. People tell the truth and they
get fucked for. It very true.
It's I'm. New and are successful.
But you know, I feel like we're doing their spouses favors if
we're dressing them up and crossdressing them and doing this.
We're doing a good service for people and a lot of people are
battling with things more dark, but they want to do and they,
(26:55):
you know, they don't want to accept it.
So they want to, like, fulfill it without actually doing it.
Like get like an itch scratched.Not fully.
This is a little off topic. Do you remember that?
That maybe the little whore house?
Best little whore house in Texas.
Of course I do. Remember.
A lot of that you would like it live on.
Sunday afternoon they would the the married men would come over
and they would go to the brothel.
And a lot of the wives knew about it because that way they
(27:18):
knew their husband needed something, you know, he needed
his itch scratched. And they were OK, but some of
them were OK with it. It was, they didn't talk about
it, but they were OK with it. And I think a lot of that if
you, you know, your partner has an itch that needs to be
scratched and you don't want to scratch it, they have to get it.
Clearly you could accept them, you know, just needing to have
their thing. But I remember that from that
movie, because it was something about the old timer.
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They would come after church andgo get their, get their weight
wet or whatever. And it was just a little
something extra. We have a crossdresser and he
comes to see us twice a week a lot of times.
And he has a wife. And the whole situation is it
was New Year's Eve and he told her, he said, look, I can go to
(28:01):
the hunting camp or I can stay home with you.
And she's like New Year's Eve. Go to the hunting camp.
Who says that to their, you know, their partner, They're
they're one that they're supposed to.
It's about New Year's Eve, yes, Bring in the new year with your
partner. Yes, somehow she wanted to do.
Yeah, somebody. Yeah.
Exactly she wanted to. Bring in the new year with
somebody else. I think she's aware of what her
(28:21):
husband is. She doesn't want to be involved
and that's just how it is. Because I know that he'd
mentioned to her before how he likes to wear panties, for
example, but he didn't give her the full scoop.
And she's like, yeah, I can't dothat.
He tried to tiptoe into it, and yes, he saw the roadblock right
there. Right there and it was done.
You need to do that in your dating phase, not in your
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marriage. Agreed.
Agreed. People evolved.
That's true. Because I wasn't into everything
that is true first I kind of tiptoed and then.
I wasn't always into it so. It was an avalanche.
In the beginning it was all about spanking and candle wax
and then it just barrel rolled and everything else.
And then I get older. I have narrowed down my list of
(29:04):
favorites. But for a while, I wanted to try
everything. But in the beginning, yeah.
You evolved like cuckolding. I wasn't into that until later.
It's true. It was just like a brief time,
too. Now it's like that.
It's OK. I can try it.
Maybe again. You.
Know, I wonder if it if Mia did it, would that affect you?
Oh God, yeah. Yeah, so you're emotional.
Yeah, well, I'm obviously like her.
I. Mean, I know, I'm saying that's
(29:25):
where you would get the full effect of.
It it would be from emotion at this point instead of just
visual or just because I'm trying something.
Not saying that I'm. For a spanking, I can get
spanked from anybody and it's nice.
But when it's somebody that's and you like, I don't want to
just disappoint this person. Oh, that's yeah, like she's
pretty much the only one now. Everybody else, I'm just I'm
fucking done with them as as faras disappointing, like I tried
(29:47):
my best, if it wasn't good enough, fuck off.
But her I still feel bad. Tell everyone how I choked you
with the plastic bag over your head the other night.
What did you do? Tell them how much you like that
one, Charles. I liked it a lot.
I was I was sitting in front of her and she put the the clear
plastic bag on my head while I was masturbating.
(30:09):
Masturbating. This winky let.
Me have a bit of air once in a while because I was going and I
wasn't trying to hurry up and finish, I was trying to prolong
yeah. And eventually she says you
better hurry. And she let the bag on.
So I was trying to wait, wait, wait.
That was awesome. I think the one that was
actually better was the the scarf that we rigged up.
(30:30):
Yeah, that was she went for the carotid.
That was hot. It took me a few minutes to
recover from that because nobodyever really got there and did
that perfect before. They tried.
And it wasn't on the the trachea.
It was on the carotid. And it started blacking out and
it was like, it was very nice. It was quite before.
I was showing Liv and Evie kind of the same scenario, but I
(30:51):
didn't have the scarf. You took it home.
I said this is Charles scarf, soit's it's his.
So we'll have to find other implements to use.
But a scarf is always a go to ora nice like fabric belt that's
always great. It was nice.
It was nice. He loved it.
But you all haven't met Edie. But we we saw this really hot
(31:16):
cross dresser the other night. And I will still go on about
this cross dresser. But my point of it is if my
spouse were to come to me after we've been married for 10 plus
years now and said hey honey, I want to cross dress, I'd be
like, yeah, I'll do it. But you're you.
But I'm me. Everybody in this room has got
an open mind. I know Liv would do it, you
would do it, but it's the sad thing that so many people are
(31:36):
missing out on that and helping their partners.
Brainwashing society just brainwash them.
At some point you got to save any.
Think about what these people pushing your heads.
Or they just don't care enough. Yeah, You know, I don't know,
caring. I think they just, they, they
drink the kool-aid and they put a bubble of reality around
themselves. And you know you're supposed to
(31:56):
do this and do that and. Yeah, the Bible says this.
The Bible says. That yeah, that book has been
translated for. I'm just.
Saying that, that's where a lot of people get held back and
you're like God was we were madein his image and a whole lot of
us are like alike. And I'm sure a lot of them are
alike. They're just not able to accept
it in themselves. They just don't say it.
We're we, we've gotten to the point where we can say it out
loud and honestly, we're probably not 100% honest with
(32:19):
everybody because we don't go toWalmart and announcing it to
the. World I will, I told my nail
lady. Oh my.
Gosh, I'm telling more people that I know, but most of them is
just IT really in their business.
Yeah, I don't. Tell my mom and stuff.
I didn't tell her, but I think it honestly I'm getting to the
point where it's going to be fucking hilarious when I do just
(32:40):
to keep her. From you need to do it when
you're like, really fucking old.No, no, I need to do it when I'm
mad. Oh, mad.
And say, where did you go this weekend?
Well, I did all kind of shit this weekend.
First they had me tied up to a cross and then there was 15
people having a gangbang across the room.
Just watch her drop. I'm sorry.
So no, you're OK. What?
What did your nail tech? What'd she say?
(33:00):
She was. She got a little bit weirded
out. Yeah.
I loved it, Yeah. Oh, 'cause it was kind of like,
yes, feel the uncomfortable. Yes, I love making the
uncomfortable. Nice.
What did you? Tell her exactly you were.
Dominatrix might be men for a living.
Oh nice. She's like, what?
Is that why you get your nails like this?
Yes. I wanna black and.
(33:20):
Point it, get it also. Your toes are done too.
Yes, my toes are done block. Very nice.
Yes, love it. They were looking a little
Christy Dusty last time you justsaw them.
They they needed some work last time.
I can't talk, mine are horrible.Alright, shall we paint them?
We'll just paint them. Probably next week.
Alright, all right kids, this has been interesting so.
(33:42):
It's never not interesting cop. Holding 101.
This is great. So Liv, this has been a great
episode. Thank you again.
And until then, this has been the latest episode of.
Coffee Mistress.
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