November 27, 2023 • 62 mins
Have you ever wondered about the spiritual essence of Jerusalem? Well, you're in for a treat as we journey through the Holy Land with the resilient and inspiring Sister Love Cooper. An ardent believer, Sister Cooper's dedication to her faith is reflected in her recent pilgrimage to Jerusalem, a journey she embarked upon despite financial hurdles. Join us as she candidly shares her preparation, fundraising efforts, and ultimate realization of her dream to walk the sacred path in Jerusalem.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Jesus walking the Via della Rosa and then he has this
cross on his back.
So while he, our tour guide, istalking to us, he's now telling
us the walk of this is thefirst walk and this is how he
was walking and how he stumbled.
And then First walk, how hejust stopped and then his
handprint was just right therein a while.
(00:20):
So I'm looking at the wall andthen I put my handprint with
Jesus Handprint and I'mliterally touching the handprint
of what Jesus actually failed,like his handprint was still
there, y'all, his handprint wasstill in that while.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Welcome to the call by God podcast with Adne Godin
and myself, nixon Sylvain.
This show is about dialogues ofbiblical characters and
testimonies of Christians whosubmitted to the will of God.
Each week we bring on one guestso that they can share their
story how they were called byGod.
I hope this show inspires you.
(01:01):
Enjoy, hello and welcome worldto the call by God podcast.
I'm yours truly, brother, nick,and I'm here with sister Adne
Godin.
Sister Go, then, how are youdoing on his blessed day?
Speaker 3 (01:13):
I am wonderful brother, nick, I cannot complain
, I'm just super, super, superexcited.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Yeah, how was your day?
Speaker 3 (01:22):
It was pretty good.
Like I said it, it was a reallybusy day, which is which is
always good, because my day goesby fast, but, um, I Honestly,
like I said, I cannot complainat all.
How was your day?
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Oh, my day was busy, very productive, you know.
But, um, god is good.
You know what they?
What's that saying?
You know, any day above groundis definitely a blessing.
It's a blessing, I mean, it's ablessing for me to be with the
Lord, but it's also a blessingto be still be here, to be doing
the work of the Lord.
So I'm thankful at me.
I'm just feeling blessed, butI'm super excited at him.
(01:57):
I'm just we're just gonna justdive in into this episode.
You know we have a specialguest and whenever we have a
special guest I just get excited, you know, I guess sometimes.
But this guest is not astranger at she's not stranger
to this platform.
She's been here before.
She's been on episode oh, 100,153 and 155, it's called.
(02:20):
The episode is called, but God,part one and part two.
So if you haven't heard her,her name is Sister love Cooper.
Sister love Cooper, welcome tothe call by God podcast.
How are you doing on thisblessed day?
Speaker 1 (02:30):
I'm doing well.
Thanks for asking.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Let me tell you something about sister Cooper.
Sister Cooper, she's a powerfulwoman of God.
You know Again, if y'all heardher test, the testimony, her
story and I'm gonna say it again, episode 153 and 155.
But I'm gonna tell you what'sso special about what she's
about to share.
Sister love Cooper is about totake us on a field trip yes, I
said it, on a spiritual fieldtrip.
(02:53):
So Addy and I gonna sit backand we're gonna relax I don't
have any popcorn and I don'tknow if you do but sister Cooper
is gonna take us on a spiritualfield trip to Jerusalem.
Sister Cooper has recently beento Jerusalem and I haven't had
you and I had never been toJerusalem, but hopefully that's
on our bucket list, hopefullythat somebody out there could
sponsor this podcast so we couldgo Jerusalem.
(03:16):
I thought I just had that inthere, but we're just gonna dive
right into it, cuz I just can'twait to hear Her story, her
testimony, her trip to Jerusalem.
So, sister Cooper, first wewant to begin.
How did all this trip comeabout?
We want to talk about thepreparation phase.
(03:36):
How did?
Did you just wake up onemorning, or wake up one day,
said I'm gonna Jerusalem, walkus through and our listeners
about your preparation.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Okay.
So my preparation of Jerusalem.
I had actually just placedmembership at a another church
where I had came from, and sothe talk was about Jerusalem and
so they had like the leadership, so the leaders rather was
taking a trip to Jerusalem and Ikind of overheard the talk.
(04:09):
So I was like Jerusalem, I saidoh wait, I want to go to
Jerusalem.
So, like I say, it was a reasonfor the leaders, well, for the
leaders at the church.
But then I asked about it andthey say anybody can come on the
trip.
So I'm like, okay, so you know,we made joke about like how
long does it take, how much gasdo we take to get to Jerusalem?
(04:31):
Or like how long does it taketo drive to Jerusalem?
So yeah, like little funnymarks or whatever.
So I End up asking my pastorabout it past the trip here and
I was like, okay, so what I needto do to go to Jerusalem.
He's like I'm going toJerusalem.
I say yes, I'm going toJerusalem.
Like it was like in my mind.
(04:52):
My mind was saying like, ohyeah, I'm going to Jerusalem.
So he had me to contact doctorJackson, thomas Jackson, and I
spoke with him and we got tolike that tenor area.
I'm not that tenor area but gotthe, the application and
everything.
So in my mind I'm like I'mgoing to Jerusalem.
(05:12):
Like I'm going to Jerusalem.
I didn't know how I was going,I didn't have the funds to go,
but in my mind I said I wasgoing.
So the deposit at this time was$500 to Secure the spot.
Well, I did have $500 at thattime to secure my spot, so I put
up my $500.
So this is like in May.
(05:34):
So the deadline for the tripwas like November the 20th.
So November the 20th, the other$4,000 had to be paid.
So, my dude, this was a $4,500trip.
So I had on paid the $500.
And then so May, june, july,august, september, March,
october, and that's been down tothe needy grid and I have not
(05:55):
paid my $4,000.
So like, oh, my goodness.
But in my mind still, I say I'mgoing to Jerusalem.
I don't know how, but I'm going.
So it was.
It got down to like I said, thedate was like November the 20th,
which was like the deadline.
I think it was somewhere aroundthat time.
And so they started calling meand I was like well, you know,
(06:17):
you got to make a payment andthe payments do and Time is one
day today's, tomorrow's thedeadline.
So I start kind of voodoo phonecalls because I'm like I don't
have $4,000.
So they keep on constant.
I kept on hitting the bullet, Ikept on hitting reject, but
that just when I answer theycall because I knew I didn't
have the money to do it over thephone and I knew that's what
(06:39):
they was calling me for.
Was they paid me over the phone.
So Then that's not.
So I kind of played it down alittle bit.
I'm like I'm calling next day.
So they got me like I missedthe phone cause I can see like
what's going on.
But Thomas Jackson, you know,call me that night like Cover,
you got to make the payment fortomorrow, can you do anything?
(06:59):
I'm like I Said I don't knowwhat I'm gonna do.
I said but I'm gonna get it,I'm gonna get it, I'm gonna get
it.
I'm just kept on telling I'mgetting that magic.
It's pressure on me tonightbefore to come over $4,000, no
job, no money, and trying tofigure out how I'm gonna come
over $4,000 in less than maybeabout eight hours.
So I was like okay, I said well, can't y'all like give me to
(07:24):
like at least eight o'clock,nine o'clock tomorrow, just give
me to nine o'clock tomorrow.
And so he was like, well,tomorrow's the deadline for the
trip, so of course I wouldn'thave lost my $500.
So, my god, my daddy end upsending a room in B Bush the
next morning, I end up having$4,000.
(07:48):
So I was so Grateful but in mymind, like I said, it was just
no doubt in my mind that I wasnot going cuz I just had my mind
set that I'm going and I knowthat God just knew my heart.
Was she just saying she going,she gotta go cuz?
It was like nothing was nothingwas stopping, it wasn't a
(08:09):
doctor said, well, maybe I wantto be able to go, y'all cuz I
could.
I could have told Jackson like,well, I might not be, it was no
doubt, it was none.
No, no, no, just give me, justgive me some more time.
That's what I was telling.
Just give me some more time.
But yes, they ran me in, bushcame through and I'm grateful to
God I was able to make their$4,000 payment and, yeah, I was
(08:31):
in the room.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Wow, that's, that's a blessing.
You know when, when you'resharing that, it brought me back
to some of the experiences thatI Experience along the way,
especially like when I was a kid.
You know, as kids See, myparents was poor, we couldn't go
to Disney World, but we saw allthe other kids that have money.
They used to go to Disney Worldevery summer and come back,
yeah, you know what the DisneyWorld.
And they, they said, you know,go to school.
(08:54):
They used to talk about DisneyWorld and I'm like man, I want
to go to Disney World one day.
And then when I went there, Ijust like lost my mind.
I was like, wow, I'm in DisneyWorld.
And then.
So even just you sharing thatyou know Things that we read in
the Bible or even things that wesee in the TV.
It's one thing to read it, usto see it, but it's it's another
to actually be there present.
And that's why I've mentionedon the top of the show, you're
(09:16):
gonna take us on a spiritualjourney.
So, yes, we're gonna be talkingabout Jericho, we'll be talking
about Jesus, bethlehem,nazareth, jordan rivers, the Sea
of Galilee, the Gardener,kissimmee, the path to the cross
and also the Garden Tomb.
So we're gonna methodicallyWalk through this journey
together, but you're gonna besharing your experience.
(09:36):
So first we're gonna talk aboutJericho, but before we talk
about your experience in Jericho, let me just read a brief
summary about Jericho.
So Joshua is the leader at thistime in Jericho.
Jericho is mentioned in the OldTestament of the Bible and it is
first found in the book ofJoshua.
What happened?
Joshua being a new leader asMoses passed on the baton to
(09:59):
carry his new leadership role,something special happened.
Something special happened inthe midst of Jericho and I'm not
gonna go too far in the detailinto it.
All I want the people to knowis that Joshua is the new leader
and Joshua have new followersfollowing him.
Joshua was given an assignmentto God to go to Jericho and you
(10:22):
know the history.
I want you to tell us aboutyour experience and if you want
to share a little bit of history, you could do that as well.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Well, yes, um, standing over in Jericho was
very profound, I must say,because I could say I was
literally standing in Jericho,like I was right there in
Jericho.
So I'm often telling peopleabout faith, the faith the size
(10:50):
of a mustard seed, and I'm often, you know, encouraging people
Just because you don't see itdoesn't mean it's not there and
then to connect its Jericho likeit was that faith moment, like
I'm actually standing over,looking over Jericho.
So not only am I can, not onlyam I using my own mustard seed,
(11:15):
faith, I'm actually connectingwith it right now because I've
never seen it, but by faith I'mlike I'm gonna be there, I'm
gonna go.
So just to be standing overover where Joshua hey command to
tell the people to walk aroundthis city that I am standing in,
(11:37):
seven times for the walls tocome falling down.
So the first time, just knowinghow they went, and they walked
around it one time and then wentback to where they laid their
head and came back again thesecond time, and then the third
time, and fourth time, and thefifth time, and then until the
seventh time.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Come back to Jericho and for them to walk around
seven times of Jericho and thenwhen he makes the sound, when he
give the command to shout, andthen he walls on come coming
down, like I walk around andwalk around and then I shout and
then some walls gonna fall down.
That's got this faith rightthere.
Yeah, who would say I'm gonnawalk around and then, oh, we
(12:23):
gonna shout and then the wallsgonna come falling down, like
who would, why and how?
But it was the faith that theybelieve that if we do this and
we walk around seven times andwe shout, that now we get to hit
, the walls come falling downand then they inherit all this.
So I'm just standingoverlooking it, the what
(12:45):
happened back then.
So that was just like it is.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
It is profound because that's that's a
historical landmark.
So when you are actually there,so I.
These are these are the thingsthat I read in the Bible Joshua,
chapter six, when the wallscame falling down, as you
mentioned, but just to see thepower of God, because God at
this point is where Israel.
So just to see the power God,he gave them instructions what
(13:12):
they need to do.
Obviously, gave Joshua theinstructions.
Joshua gave the peopleinstructions and for them to
actually follow suit and do it,and just to see the hand of God,
how the walls came falling down.
Like you said, it was a degreeof faith and even trusting in
God and obeying God's ordinance.
But I mean that's powerful tome.
I would have been like a kidjust looking at Jericho.
I'd be like, wow, god, you didsome powerful things here in the
(13:34):
city.
So I think you again forsharing it with us, because
those of us that read the Bibleand they know a little bit of
history for you to actually bethere, that's a different
feeling.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Amen, amen.
I'm gonna ask you to talk to usabout Jesus and I'm gonna share
a few thoughts and then you canshare your experience.
Jesus Christ is known by JesusChrist, god, the Messiah, the
Son of God, the Son of man,emmanuel, lamb of God, king of
(14:03):
Kings, lord of Lords, savior,the Word, etc.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
You were in the place where Jesus Christ walks.
So I know you know likewhenever you have a figure in a
certain city or a certain state,you be like man, michael Jordan
was here.
I'm just using sports, forexample.
I like sports.
Michael Jordan was here likethis is where Michael Jordan,
this is where he lived.
So you were in a place whereour Savior was.
So I know the noise is stillringing even in that place to
(14:31):
this day like do people actuallyview him as a carpenter or even
Savior or both?
Could you expound more on that?
Speaker 1 (14:39):
It was more of the stone maesary.
So that's how Jesus works.
He worked like off the stonemaesary.
So just to know that you know,what we think over here is
totally different over there.
You know, you read the Bible.
It's more of you have to knowwhat you're reading, I mean know
what you're reading before youeven get in there, so that it
(15:01):
can kind of all connect witheach other.
So you don't want to put Danielat the burning bush, you don't
want to put Moses in the ark, soyou kind of want to know what
it is once you actually get inthere.
So that's what I was.
I really, when I was there, Ireally wasn't connecting because
(15:21):
I was just more of overwhelmedthan what I was seeing.
So the fact that I was moreoverwhelmed than what I was
seeing, then it kind of said,okay, I got to be more into my
Bible, more I got to know more.
Okay, jesus was this one thatwas actually walking through,
you know, miracles.
(15:42):
Like you know, they actuallyhated on this person.
They actually did everything.
Like you know, what was it thathe did wrong for y'all to
dislike him so much?
Or what was it that y'all hedid wrong to make you hate him,
but you know, just being inthere, it was very, very, very,
very, a very incredible momentamen.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
I mean I, you know, I would have been overwhelmed as
well, because and I thank youagain for bringing clarity to me
and even our listeners aboutthe carpentry because we in the
western world, when we think ofcarpentry, we think of it in a
western way, we don't thinkabout it how they do it over
there in the east or inJerusalem.
So again, I thank you again forbringing clarity today.
(16:28):
So we're moving forward,tiptoeing through your journey
in Jerusalem.
So now we're going to discussBethlehem.
So in Bethlehem, in the Bible,in the book of Matthew, chapter
2, verse 1, it says now, whenJesus was born in Bethlehem of
Judea, in the days of Herod theking, behold, wise men from the
east came to Jerusalem saying so.
That's in Matthew 2, 1.
(16:48):
So you were in Bethlehem.
Like I said, we're tiptoeingthrough your journey in
Jerusalem.
Can you tell our listeners justbriefly about your experience
in Bethlehem?
Speaker 1 (16:58):
Bethlehem.
Jesus came out of Bethlehem, soBethlehem is known as the house
of bread.
At first I didn't, you know, Ikind of got confused, like the
house of bread house is thehouse of bread but Jesus is the
house of the bread.
(17:19):
So that's the foundation ofBethlehem and just you know, go
in.
You know we look at them.
I looked at the manger, whereyou think that he's in his barn
with animals and you know peopleare surrounding, but it's
actually a, it's actually insideof a.
You know it was like it's notwhat we think of as a barn, that
(17:42):
that's not the main.
You know we do Christmas and wesay Jesus was in the manger,
but it wasn't that type of manwhere a born, you know, and just
to be inside of there to youknow, see, this is where he was,
the star was actually born.
And then over here he's noteven three feet away where he's
(18:03):
actually put in, you know, themanger.
It was just mind-blowing, likeit was just to actually be there
and to see this is where thestar was born in Bethlehem amen,
that's.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
That's powerful.
Because when you think aboutthe house of bread and Jesus
says I am the bread of life,right, and if we go back to, I
want to say it's in the Psalmswhere David is talking that you
know.
It's not the Psalms, oh Lord,have mercy.
It's when God sends Samuel toanoint King David.
(18:41):
Right, he sends him toBethlehem.
So it's like it's like God is sostrategic in everything that he
is doing as far as our Lord andSavior, and for us to
understand, like when we readthe word, we need to start
reading it through the eyes ofWestern men and start reading it
through the eyes of those inthe Middle East and stuff,
(19:05):
because the lifestyle, theculture, the customs, everything
are completely different.
So as I, as I'm listening toyou, you're actually bringing
the word to life for me, becausenow it's like, oh okay, so
Bethlehem, house of bread, jesus, bread of life, that's that's.
You know that that's sopowerful, really, really, truly
(19:26):
profound.
So let me take you now toNazareth.
I want you to discuss inNazareth with us.
And it says Matthew I'm gonnaread Matthew 2, 23.
And it says and he went andlived in this city called
Nazareth, so that what wasspoken by the prophets might be
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fulfilled, that he would becalled a Nazarene.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Share your experience in Nazareth, okay so I'm in
Nazareth looking over again allof this like land and just like,
okay.
So the first thing is what goodcan come out of Nazareth?
And I'm just standing on thetop, like you know, to know
Jesus stood up there and youknow speaking, and then you have
(20:17):
it where you, actually,standing up, like it was, the
site was so beautiful, it wasmore of like, hmm, me standing
up there with Jesus up there.
I was just like you know, in myown mind, cause I kinda like
(20:38):
had like the wind blowing.
I was just like in a moment upthere, like it was, just like I
was just looking out at theworld, like just visually
visualizing just to be standingthere with Jesus and we just
standing there.
And I'm in Nazareth.
I'm up here in Nazareth.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
So, since the Cooper, do it look like the hood?
Cause you know, like, you know,like they say, no good Nazareth
Right, so do it look like thehood man.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
It looked like nothing like the hood, it was
just so pretty.
The landscaping, it was justlike OMG.
But I do have several picturesthough.
Like, if anybody like gooutside of this park and go to
it, you can see, like it, thesite is just a beautiful site to
see and it's just meditation,you know, just a piece of mind.
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Like I said, I stood up thereby myself for a moment and I
just had my moment, like it wasjust a peaceful moment, like
Jesus is right here, like he wasthere, like the whole.
Like in certain times of it waslike okay, jesus, you right
here, you right here with meagain.
Like just to feel that spirit.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Wow, I'm glad you're sharing this, cause, even when
you're sharing, it is like itmakes me want to go, cause it's
like this is where our saviorwas and then, like you said, you
felt him like he was rightthere, so as though you could
feel his presence because hisearthly body was there and then
that's where he was right, causewe know he was born in
Bethlehem, he went to Egypt andhe went to Nazareth and he was
(22:10):
raised in Nazareth.
So thank you for sharing yourexperience with us and the
reason why we want you to shareyour experience because we want
people out there to make thatconnection.
Because, as you're sharing,like I said, it makes me want to
like I'm out of here.
I already got I recently got mypassport, so probably got a
lobby to get my passport for areason.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
I'm going to.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Jerusalem.
So, moving forward, you know,you know, I know your trip.
You had so many things that youcould talk about your trip and
I know we're just you're justtaking us on a field trip and
we're just tiptoeing throughsome of the landmarks you went
to.
So the next line item we wantto talk about is the Jordan
River.
But before you talk about yourexperience of the Jordan River,
(22:53):
so we know that there areseveral historical events that
took place at the Jordan Riverthe baptism of Jesus and also
the healing of Naaman.
So I think the more key one isthe baptism of Jesus and, of
course, a pivotal verse isMatthew, chapter three, verse 13
.
So you were at the river thatour Savior got baptized.
(23:18):
Please, please, please, pleasetell us, share your experience.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Oh, my goodness.
So the water was cold, uh-huh.
So, yes, walking into the place, it was like, okay, people were
just, you know, it was likeeverybody on white, like you
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know, just like going in there.
And then, you know, justlooking around, so when I got
ready to go in there, I'm like,okay, I'm going to get baptized
in the Jordan River.
So they're first hit theprocess in my brain, like I'm
actually going to go down.
So when I got off in there andI can see the water was cold,
(24:03):
and to just get emerged out inthe water and then come up, like
that moment was breathtaking,that moment was speechless.
That was like, you know, whenGod said, um, in the heavens
open and this is my son, who Iam well, please like that
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feeling.
I can't explain it, feelinginside, but it's like when I
came up, it was just so freshand so breathtaking and so
renewed, like I got baptized inthe Jordan River, the same river
that Jesus got baptized in.
Yeah, that was, that was a,that was a crisis moment.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
Wow, I've seen people go to Jerusalem and get
baptized in the Jordan River,and you're the only person I've
ever heard explain it this way,like the, and I'm and I'm
correlating it because of yourbelief and your relationship
with the Lord.
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So for you, it's not just abaptism.
This is like.
This is where my Lord andSavior stood, and John the
Baptist says to him I need to bebaptized of you.
And you come to me and he saidlet it be.
And he said let me baptize you.
So you just shared a completelydifferent experience than most
(25:33):
people have had.
Right, and I think that's themost powerful part is that the
relationship that we have withour Lord and Savior makes a
difference.
When we do take that tripBecause I'm speaking it into
existence I will be going toIsrael.
Right, I have that experiencebecause I definitely want to do
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the baptism at the Jordan Riverand I'm and I'm also playing it
in my mind like why Naaman hadan issue with dipping seven
times Because to him it was likeit was muddy water.
But that's not what you said.
You're like it was cold, it was, it just was a fresh, fresh
thing.
So I really appreciate yougiving us a completely different
(26:18):
visual of being baptized in theJordan River.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Yes, because, like I said, I've been baptized, I've
been baptized before and thatwas just a different.
That was a different feeling,you know.
Because it's like why are yougoing to get baptized?
You already got baptized before, so why don't you do it again?
Because that's a totallydifferent to me.
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In my mind now that's just atotally different baptism,
because, number one, I'm gettingbaptized with.
Jesus got baptized there.
That's number one.
And then number two, just toexperience this whole Jordan
River, to be standing in thisJordan River with the water.
It's like is the water clear?
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Is it muddy?
How was the water in there?
Well, the water was again.
It was cold, it was that.
It wasn't like a crystal clear,like you know that really blue
water.
It wasn't that look, and Iain't gonna say it was the muddy
water either, but it was thatmixture of water.
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It wasn't the water that I'mlooking at, the water.
I ain't getting that water.
That water is dirty.
It wasn't that kind of.
It was like okay.
I'll get this water and I cansay go down and just come down
back up and you're just going tolove it.
I'm just letting you know inadvance because I heard you
speaking it into.
Existence and Manifestation isreal, I am aware of it.
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So you know when you go down,because you're gonna go down in
the water.
You're gonna speak to God, tothe reason.
It's gonna be mind blowing andmind changing, because one thing
for certain and two things forsure whenever you go to Israel,
you will not, your life willnever be the same.
You will not come back thistime first.
So this happened with me.
(28:10):
We're in September now.
I have not been the same sinceyou know, before I went to
Jerusalem, I'm just a wholedifferent person.
You know people don'tunderstand that and people don't
see that because you know theyhaven't you know been there or
just experienced it.
So I can't explain.
You know, you know, say youcome back different, oh, you
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just changed.
Oh, you know it's a lifechanging.
I'm telling you, you don't justgo to, like, go to Disney World,
and then you go, go to DisneyWorld, and then you know you'll
still be the same.
Yeah, I went to Disney World.
I wrote on his ride, I did this, this, this.
But when you go there and thesign completely tells you when
you get there, your life willnot be the same.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
Amen.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
And it is so true and I think anybody that has been
you know the people that I'vebeen with and I'm sure the
people that have been before methey can vouch for that.
But for me, speaking on it, yourlife will be the same.
You'll be a totally like yourmindset, like reading a Bible.
It's totally different nowreading a Bible because, just
like I was sharing with Nick,now that I'm reading a Bible,
(29:14):
I'm reading and I'm connectingwith me being in the war,
because I just literally readthis the other night or last
night, how John baptized him andthen when he came out, then God
said from heaven, open up theclouds of heaven and said this
is my son.
Now I'm saying me being in theJordan River and then the clouds
(29:37):
are now opening up.
Like I'm saying the cloudsopening up and I'm hearing Jesus
saying, I'm hearing God sayingthis is my son, who I'm will
please that you know.
So I'm connecting witheverything.
So this is a lot.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
It's so much more to that, so yeah the connection is
not the same.
Mercy.
Wow, all right, let's go to theSea of Galilee, mark 1.16,.
Passing alongside the Sea ofGalilee, he saw Simon and Andrew
, the brother of Simon, passinga net into the sea, for they
(30:14):
were fishermen.
Tell us your experience on theSea of Galilee or walking by the
Sea of Galilee, okay so the Seaof Galilee, that was like I
think that's what y'all passed.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
It was on the boats.
He was, he rocked the boat.
That was was, uh, out there, herocked it.
No, oh, he, he, he, he spokeword, he spoke a word on this
boat.
Just to be on the boat of theSea of Galilee was again I keep
(30:48):
using it seems to be a differentword like speechless, because
the whole thing was speechless,but just like mind blowing.
I'm on this on the Sea ofGalilee.
Now, imagine, now this is whatPeter is saying um, he's on this
boat and you know, jesus issleeping, and now he got to step
(31:11):
outside of this boat and he gotto walk with the water by faith
, so just to know he is reachingout his hand and Jesus is
walking across this water.
And this is just my mind, howI'm on the boat and I'm
recording and I'm just like, ohmy goodness, like just seeing
Jesus, you know, walking acrossthe water.
(31:33):
And then I just scratch myhands out and just, you know,
just grab me and I just, youknow, reach out and just walking
on water and only by faith, youknow I'm doing this, that was,
that was, that was.
And then the listening to howthe winds were blowing, and then
(31:54):
we had this guy.
He was singing what was thesong?
I think it was right now, buthe was singing the song and he's
sung it in their language, in adifferent language, and it was
so beautiful, oh my God, it wasso beautiful.
(32:14):
And then it's just like youknow, back to just having the
faith of you know.
They fishing all night, theyfishing and nothing's being
caught, nothing's being caught,nothing's being caught.
And then you can say I'm goingto make you a fisherman,
fisherman, a man.
And then you just catch yourneck and then the whole neck is
(32:36):
just like feel a fish.
Oh yeah, that was like.
That was the Sea of Galilee.
That was another greatexperience.
Yeah, that was just amazing.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Wow, that is amazing, Adanie, I'm, I'm, adanie, we,
yeah, you're right, I'm going tohave to figure a way out how to
go to Jerusalem because wedon't have a visual right now.
And if you know, sister, and atthe Teladis podcast, sister,
we're going to share with youguys, where you can find all the
(33:13):
visuals.
But even just her sharing itverbally, I mean, I still feel
there's a connection.
I could feel the way she'sexplaining it and I'm like
because I read the Bible, sowhen she's talking about the Sea
of Galilee and all these otherplaces, I'm making that
connection and, man, it makes mejust want to be there, like
like today, like today.
(33:34):
But we're going to move forwardto the Garden of Gassimi, but
before you share your experience, so let me just say a few
things.
This is when Jesus Christ Iwould say what I was at he was
at his lowest point and he waswhere Peter James and John.
So in Matthew 26, chapter 26,verse 36, it said then Jesus
went with them to a place calledGassimi and he said to his
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disciples, which is Peter, jamesand John, he said sit here
while I go over there and pray.
So he wanted them to.
Well, actually, he wanted themto watch and pray, but Jesus
Christ wanted to pray as well.
So, based on that experience,or even this context that you
know about Jesus, what he didwhile he was at Gassimi, share
with us your experience.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
Okay, so my experience in the Garden of
Gassimi it was.
It was very emotional and I'mgoing to share this with you
guys.
My daughter, she ended upgetting sick while I was in
Jerusalem and she has thisdisease ahead, the disease where
it's called Ciclit Bumini, andI had got this phone call right
(34:37):
before I ended up going to theGarden of Gassimi and it really
bothered me because I'm like I'mso far away, there's nothing I
can do, and she had theseepisodes where she vomits for
like two, three days straightand it's just like a nonstop
thing.
So I got their phone call rightbefore that and so my mind was
(34:59):
just all over the place thatmorning, like I was sad, I was
just like in the moment.
But then when I got in there,garden of Gassimi, that was a
whole different.
You know the preacher startedpraying with me.
You know I just had my moment.
I cried because this is thesame place that Jesus was at,
(35:20):
right before he had to go getcrucified, and he knew he had to
do it.
He said, lord, let this cuppass over, like he didn't want
to do that.
He didn't want to do that.
And just to know, I'm sittinghere in pain because, you know,
my daughter, she's away.
I mean, she's so far away andI'm right here and there's
nothing that I can do.
And then I'm connecting withJesus, like, okay, you want this
(35:43):
cup to pass over, but you know,if not, but not my will, but
not my will, let your will bedone.
So I was able to wrap aroundthat and to connect around it,
like you know, being in thatgarden where Jesus actually was
praying, like I'm sitting on thestool, sitting on the bench,
(36:04):
just in a whole moment of prayer, like Jesus in me, just Jesus
in me.
And you know I was praying andjust you know I'm praying for my
daughter, just praying for youknow the whole outcome and I
felt so much of a burning thatwas lifted up off me in that
garden and it's like Jesus isreally in the garden, like
(36:26):
everywhere I move.
I'm telling you how it was likeJesus was with me, jesus was
with me, wow, and when he moved,when he moved, I moved, just
like that.
So, yes, that garden of God, somany, that was like you know it
was.
It was a lot of tears there andthis was just within my group.
(36:47):
It was like tears shed, youknow, because that was an
intimate moment, just being inthere that was.
it was so intimate.
It wasn't nothing of.
You know, I don't think I.
It probably wasn't a dry facein there, I mean the preachers,
everybody was emotional and itwas just because it took me
there Like, oh my God, jesus isabout to go.
(37:10):
And you know he has to go to becrucified.
But he and he know, you knowhe's been portrayed.
But then, you know, but he wasso humble to say, but not my
will, he wasn't selfish about it.
You know, not my will, but letyour will be done and whatever
your will is, father, I'm withthat.
So that was the, the touchingmoment that was.
(37:33):
It was very touching.
You know, it takes me backthere now, just sitting here
talking about it, because youknow the trees and just you know
we sitting in there and youknow there's a sermon given
about, you know how Jesus isabout the night before, you know
he's about to go get crucified.
(37:53):
And then it just took us backthere, like it was a story and
we just sitting there and welistening and it's just so
heartfelt and so touching, like,yeah, come through Jesus, come
on, come on.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
Yeah, it is, it is.
It is emotional Cause, even theway you explain it, like I'm
getting emotional.
And then I want people to makethat connection.
You know, although youexperienced it firsthand because
you was at Kissimmee so whatJesus Christ went through.
I want all believers toexperience that they don't have
to necessarily go to Jerusalem.
(38:27):
The reality is that once we'rein the body of Christ, we have
to think about our Savior.
We got to think about all thethings that he went through for
the sake of humanity.
So when you're sharing thisstory about his experience at
Kissimmee, I mean Jesus Christwas emotional, he was an agony,
he was in pain and on top ofthat he had three individuals he
(38:47):
thought, you know, had his backand they fell asleep.
So when we, when we see thefallible nature of man, that
they could even even watch andpray for their own Savior, and
then Jesus Christ was prettymuch on his own until the angels
, the messengers, came down andministered to him and, like how
you alluded to, you said that hesaid, look, it's not my will,
but let thy will be done.
(39:09):
So I make that connection.
So when we go hard for God andwe do the things that we do for
God is because we remember whatJesus Christ did for us, and I
want whoever's listening to thisthat they need to remember why
they became a Christian.
They need to remember why Godwake them up every day.
It's not solely just to workand just do the things.
(39:29):
What I do, whatever you big andbad enough to do.
No, you need to sit back andyou need to remember what the
Savior did for you and you needto do his will.
Speaker 3 (39:39):
Amen, Amen.
The path to the cross, the Viade la Ressau, the path that
Jesus walked before hiscrucifixion.
Events related to Via de laRossa the Last Supper, Gatsimony
(40:00):
Trial Before Pilate MochoreeCarrying the Cross and
Crucifixion.
Share with us your experienceon the road to or on the Via de
la Rossa.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
Okay.
So, if I can be transparent, Iwas on the Via de la Rossa and
so my pastor pastor of the beardhe said you know what we're
walking on and I'm like you know, I know this, the path of you
know with Jesus.
And so he pointed to the sign.
He said this is the Via de laRossa.
So I looked up, I said Via dela Rossa.
He said that's what it's calledVia de la Rossa.
(40:37):
I didn't know it, you know.
But when he told me that heconnected and I was like so we
on the path where Jesus actuallywalked, this walk and carry
something, my mind this, yeah,my mind went.
I'm glad he told me that.
I'm so glad he told me becausemy mind went straight to
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imagining, visualizing Jesuswalking the Via della Rosa and
then he has this cross on hisback.
So while our tour guide istalking to us, he's now telling
us the walk of this is the firstwalk and this is how he was
walking and how he stumbled andthen first walk, he just stopped
and then his hand print wasjust right there in the wall.
(41:23):
So I'm looking at the wall andthen I put my hand print with
Jesus hand print and I'mliterally touching the hand
print of what Jesus actuallyfailed, like his hand prints
were still there.
Y'all His hand prints was stillin that wall.
That was so, so, so old.
(41:45):
My goodness, that was so thechills.
It was chills, like chills inmy body to be able to touch the
wall where he failed.
Then you know he's walking andhe's knowing that.
You know he's about to becrucified.
And then he got his mom.
You know it's like all thesedoors that he's stumbling and
(42:05):
you know he's about to becrucified.
And then his mom sitting here.
You know she's witnessingwhat's going on and then you
know it just took the lowestupper.
It's to a whole another level.
I don't even take the lowest upof the same number.
Ever since I came back fromJerusalem, the lowest upper is
totally different in my mind now.
(42:26):
Like I sit there and I'm likejust it takes me back to
Jerusalem.
Every time we're taking thelowest upper, because before I
went to Jerusalem I was like thelowest upper.
Right now I'm taking the lowestupper.
This is one of the acts, thisis what we're doing.
But once you connect to that,you can't take the lowest upper,
the same number.
(42:46):
You can't sit there and notreminisce or not take you back
to where Jesus was walking andhow he just, you know, had the
cross on his back and he's justbeing beaten and he's just blood
.
Just like that, just like youknow, I get emotional with it.
(43:08):
I just get, you know, emotionaland because, just to know
that's what he did for me,little old me, he did that for
little old me, just to walk thiswalk to your Delarosa to be
headed, to be crucified, to hangon the cross, for a old, filthy
(43:29):
rag like me.
Like that, if you just take itand you think about it like that
, you, you start taking likedifferent, like you start
thinking about thingsdifferently, you'll start taking
not taking things for granted,you will start, you know,
reflecting on that and the fact,I guess, because I was there
and you know where he wasactually hung and the nails
(43:54):
pierced in his hand and piercedit, like just to see that sight,
like this is where Jesus hung,this is where he gave his life,
like I said, just for a sinnerlike me, like that's right
enough to get all fired up Likeyou know what.
Thank you, daddy, I appreciateyou.
(44:14):
And then you know you can't,you crazy, you just don't know.
You don't know that's on.
You just don't know.
When you hear me hollering andwhen you hear me clapping my
hands and when you see me, youknow, you probably think I'm
over there just being out ofcare.
I mean being, yeah, doingsomething like it.
Like they say, you don't takeall this.
Oh yes, it does.
Speaker 3 (44:35):
It does, it does.
Speaker 1 (44:36):
It does Baby, it takes all that, and then
something.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
It does yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:40):
You don't know my story.
Speaker 3 (44:42):
You don't know what.
Speaker 1 (44:42):
I witness and you don't know what I've been
through, but I want you to seethat through me, because that's
what I use.
Amen, god use that.
Speaker 3 (44:51):
The thing that I'm listening to you as you're
saying this is that so many ofus take what Jesus did for
granted, because even at thecongregation where I currently
attend, it's it's not.
I haven't even gone toJerusalem and the Lord's Supper
is different for me, right, andI don't want to just sit there
(45:12):
and they just read thescriptures and then we just take
the Lord's Supper.
It's like he says do this inremembrance of me.
Speaker 1 (45:19):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (45:20):
What are you remembering that he has done for
you, for you to sit there?
It's not just five acts, it isan intimate.
You're sitting at a table.
You've got to picture yourselfsitting at the table and Jesus
taking this bread, and he'sblessing it and he's breaking it
and he says take, eat, this ismy body which is broken for you.
(45:45):
And now you just said he's onthe road, the Via de la Rosa,
his body is broken, right,because he has just gotten
beaten.
We cannot just take the Lord'sSupper like, oh you know, let me
just eat this bread.
No, it is something so intimate,so personal, so he gave his
(46:05):
life and it's like body and Ihave to say because just hit my
heart we really need tounderstand why we're members of
the body.
Yes, absolutely, because whathe did was big, what he did was
(46:26):
grand, like there was darknesson this earth, like we just go
to church just to.
Even the singing is like are wereally lifting up songs to our
father?
Are we just standing there justsinging?
Speaker 1 (46:43):
Yes, I always just count the.
Yeah, because, see, he's not we, just there.
He's not counting the people,he's counting the sacrifice, but
it's the sacrifice that he'scounting.
It could be a church full ofpeople, but he's counting
sacrifice.
What are you coming here for?
Just like you say what are youcoming here for?
Are you just coming to say Icame to church on Sunday morning
, I did the 5X, I did the, I didmy offering, I did my community
(47:06):
.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
It is the sacrifice, and Ilearned that as well in
Jerusalem.
Like God don't count people, hecounted sacrifice.
So it could be two sacrificeamong the 200 people there, it
ain't but two people that don'tcount to sacrifice, and he knows
that, god knows that.
So it ain't the, the numbers,it's the sacrifice.
(47:28):
So just back to what you say,and like we take it for granted,
like we come in, we come tochurch and we you know people
play church.
This is time out for playingchurch.
We ain't playing church, it'stime out.
So we come, if we come, and wecome in for unity.
We come in to serve, like we'recoming to uplift, we come into
(47:50):
be because we all see when weget there.
We all want coming to ahospital, so ain't no better
than no better, because if thiscase you need to stay at home.
If you, if you 100, you perfectyou good, what you coming up
here for, this is for the sickpeople.
This is for people that'scoming out, coming in and
leaving out different, not tocome in and leave after, come in
(48:12):
the same and leave after sayingthat's not what it's for.
So, yeah, back to what you said.
This most definitely you got to.
You know we take it for granted.
We take it for granted.
You know what we're, what we'redoing, and until you just
visualize and think about youknow what you're doing it for
what, why, what?
What is the lowest up?
(48:33):
Before, like, if you.
And now they have startedplaying this video.
In some church word they showedthe video that really touches
my heart, like I know Renna'sundead after that was my first
time doing seeing it.
And then I know we do it some,we've done it before.
And now it really takes me backto Drew, because before I don't
think if I could have saw thatvideo before, you know, to have
(48:56):
what I have right now.
Now, when I see that videodoing communion.
It's like, you know, it's notto be sad, it's not to be sad at
all, but it's just to know thisis what Jesus did for me, this
is the, this is what hesacrificed for me.
So, in least, the least I coulddo, the least I could do.
Speaker 2 (49:18):
So, speaking of Christ, so we know that there's
a lot of different religions andJesus Christ was the only God
that actually was raised fromthe dead.
We know he went through deathbearer and he was resurrected.
So we want to talk about thegarden tomb.
So I do have a referencescripture found in Mark, chapter
15, verse 46.
(49:38):
It says and Joseph brought alinen, a Shrod, and, taking him
down, wrapped him in the linenshrod and laid him in a tomb
that had been cut out of therock and he rolled the stone
against the entrance of the tomb.
So I know you had yourexperience in a garden tomb when
(50:01):
our savior was laid.
Could you share your experienceabout the garden tomb?
Speaker 1 (50:06):
So the garden tomb, first of all, the rock inside of
the rock, number one, the rockinside of the rock.
Come on that, because Jesus isthe rock of the world.
So the fact that you know theyput them there and so walk up
and just walk inside of there,that's whom, look up against the
(50:29):
walls and just see that he isnot there anymore.
Like I got sad.
I think he ain't that no more.
Yeah, he has risen.
Yeah, these are my women's day.
Jesus was not in a tomb, he isnot there.
He has risen and he, he, he'snow.
(50:50):
You know he's not there anymore.
Speaker 2 (50:53):
So yeah, man, yeah, yeah, I hear that one Sunday.
Speaker 1 (51:04):
Oh, let me give my vocal back, jesus rose, oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (51:23):
Yeah, but listen, we're about to wrap these up and
again, again.
We want to thank you so muchfor shares to your experience
that, although we didn't have avisual, we don't have a visual
right now I mean every word thatcame out of your mind.
I felt it in the spirit.
So if anybody's connected withGod and they have the Holy
Spirit, sometimes they don'tneed to see.
It's by faith.
(51:43):
I felt what you felt and the adnew felt the same thing.
So, anything you want to sharewith our listeners.
Speaker 1 (51:51):
Okay, well, yeah, I do have a blog.
If you want to go back to myblog to actually I did a
documentary on this.
I might didn't catch.
I mean, yeah, I didn't get tosay everything because you know
I was.
I was gone for like two weeksbut people thought I was gone
for that for about two months orso.
You go back to Daily dose oflove.
(52:12):
This daily dose of love, helloyou be.
It's my blog every, everymorning.
It's it's an encouragementblock.
I don't know what people gothrough.
I just allow God to use me tobe a blessing to others and it
might not be a dose for you, butit can be a dose for someone
else and you could just spreadthe love.
Also, you can find it onInstagram as well.
(52:33):
It's daily dose of love.
Same thing.
It's an encouraging blog.
Never know what people goingthrough, but hey, could be
something that could encourageyou.
Also, you can find on Facebook.
I did say that my daughter.
She has a book out is calledBrookman's beautiful bubbles as
well.
She just wrote her.
She's an author of her firstbook.
(52:54):
She's eight years old.
Um, you can find that on Amazonalso.
My email address is love Cooperat Yahoocom again this L?
O you be Cooper at Yahoocom.
Speaker 2 (53:10):
Amen, amen.
So also what I want to add ontop of that.
So if y'all want to have avisual of what sister Cooper
shared, you guys could find avisual on a real talk now From
sister Roz on Facebook.
Real talk now from sister Rozon Facebook.
Now, are you actually comingout with a DACA, a documentary,
(53:30):
sister Cooper, like an actualvideo recording of your
experience, or it's just likepictures for now?
Speaker 1 (53:38):
So right now, if you go on there, it's a lot, if you
watch it, it's like you actuallythere, it's a lot of videos,
it's a lot of pictures that youthat will actually walk you
through Jerusalem, as though youcan feel this, though that
you're there.
So again, like I said, you haveto probably stroll down a bit.
What I might do is, once soon,just get it all on one and then
(54:00):
make that like my pin at the top.
Speaker 3 (54:03):
So when people Sit again, put it on you, put it on
what YouTube?
Speaker 1 (54:12):
on you, oh, yeah, okay, yeah, and put everything
together and then that way youwill have the whole story of
Jerusalem.
And if anybody looking to go toJerusalem like I said, dr
Thomas Jackson he is the personthat is over, he does these
trips like twice a year isactually one coming up in
January 2024 you might have thesame thing like I have you
(54:36):
having to November to make that$4,500 payment if you like to go
in January, oh, 2024, that tripis coming up and then I will
have another documentary comingreal soon.
Stay tuned, can't steal thebeans right now All right, but
it'll be another out of thecountry thing that I know that
you guys are absolutely love.
I can't wait to share thatexperience and again, I don't
(55:00):
know how I'm gonna do it, but Ibelieve I'm gonna do it.
Speaker 2 (55:03):
So, sister, since the Cooper I know on brother, is it
minister, dr Thomas Jackson?
So, minister, talk, doctorThomas Jackson, that is correct.
I know he's one of theprominent preachers in a
brotherhood so we're gonnaprovide all his information in
the show notes.
So if anybody is interested ina trip, and they have to be in
(55:23):
the body of Christ, correct?
Speaker 1 (55:25):
I mean, it's a worldwide thing, so anybody that
wants to go, right, okay, takethat trip to Jerusalem, because
it's a different people allaround that goes.
So it's not limited to who canand cannot go.
Anybody can take this trip.
I Courage someone to investinto this, like to say, if you
can invest in Disney World andcome back with just the fun I
(55:46):
went to Disney World I wouldsuggest you invest into
Jerusalem and make that paymentand there was to be something
that would stick with you forlife.
Speaker 3 (55:53):
Amen, I'm, I'm just and I, like I said, I will be
going to Jerusalem.
That's something that's been onmy heart.
So just listening to you, itdefinitely it shifted something
in me.
Just listening to you right now, just knowing that he loves us
y'all, like God, loves us somuch.
(56:17):
We were his enemies and heloves us so much.
He sent his son in the form of ababy, who was almost Attacked
by Herod Angel says take him toEgypt, right.
And then he comes back, 12years old, he's found Speaking
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in a wisdom and then, when hecomes back on the scene, he's
baptized by John.
I'm taking y'all on a brieftrip so you can understand how
much he loves you.
And Then getting baptized andgoing into the wilderness to be
tried.
After being tried, he goes outand says the kingdom of heaven
(57:01):
is at hand.
Three years later, he's beaten,he is bruised and he, he
becomes the perfect Lamb ofsacrifice for you and for me.
Members of the body of Christ,I challenge you to stop just
(57:23):
going to church and Start goinginto his presence and sit and
Just welcome him and communewith him and enjoy him.
I didn't even take theJerusalem trip and I just felt
like I had such an experiencewith him, I Will never worship
the Lord the same, and Ichallenge you not to do the same
(57:46):
as well.
Speaker 2 (57:48):
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continue to listen.
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Also, if you want to supportour show, please scroll down to
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We were greatly appreciated.
Thank you for listening andremember God is good all the
time and all the time God isgood and also Jesus Christ loves
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you.
Thank you you.
Jesus walking the Via della Rosa and then he has this
cross on his back.
So while he, our tour guide, istalking to us, he's now telling
us the walk of this is thefirst walk and this is how he
was walking and how he stumbled.
And then First walk, how hejust stopped and then his
handprint was just right therein a while.
(00:20):
So I'm looking at the wall andthen I put my handprint with
Jesus Handprint and I'mliterally touching the handprint
of what Jesus actually failed,like his handprint was still
there, y'all, his handprint wasstill in that while.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Welcome to the call by God podcast with Adne Godin
and myself, nixon Sylvain.
This show is about dialogues ofbiblical characters and
testimonies of Christians whosubmitted to the will of God.
Each week we bring on one guestso that they can share their
story how they were called byGod.
I hope this show inspires you.
(01:01):
Enjoy, hello and welcome worldto the call by God podcast.
I'm yours truly, brother, nick,and I'm here with sister Adne
Godin.
Sister Go, then, how are youdoing on his blessed day?
Speaker 3 (01:13):
I am wonderful brother, nick, I cannot complain
, I'm just super, super, superexcited.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Yeah, how was your day?
Speaker 3 (01:22):
It was pretty good.
Like I said it, it was a reallybusy day, which is which is
always good, because my day goesby fast, but, um, I Honestly,
like I said, I cannot complainat all.
How was your day?
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Oh, my day was busy, very productive, you know.
But, um, god is good.
You know what they?
What's that saying?
You know, any day above groundis definitely a blessing.
It's a blessing, I mean, it's ablessing for me to be with the
Lord, but it's also a blessingto be still be here, to be doing
the work of the Lord.
So I'm thankful at me.
I'm just feeling blessed, butI'm super excited at him.
(01:57):
I'm just we're just gonna justdive in into this episode.
You know we have a specialguest and whenever we have a
special guest I just get excited, you know, I guess sometimes.
But this guest is not astranger at she's not stranger
to this platform.
She's been here before.
She's been on episode oh, 100,153 and 155, it's called.
(02:20):
The episode is called, but God,part one and part two.
So if you haven't heard her,her name is Sister love Cooper.
Sister love Cooper, welcome tothe call by God podcast.
How are you doing on thisblessed day?
Speaker 1 (02:30):
I'm doing well.
Thanks for asking.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Let me tell you something about sister Cooper.
Sister Cooper, she's a powerfulwoman of God.
You know Again, if y'all heardher test, the testimony, her
story and I'm gonna say it again, episode 153 and 155.
But I'm gonna tell you what'sso special about what she's
about to share.
Sister love Cooper is about totake us on a field trip yes, I
said it, on a spiritual fieldtrip.
(02:53):
So Addy and I gonna sit backand we're gonna relax I don't
have any popcorn and I don'tknow if you do but sister Cooper
is gonna take us on a spiritualfield trip to Jerusalem.
Sister Cooper has recently beento Jerusalem and I haven't had
you and I had never been toJerusalem, but hopefully that's
on our bucket list, hopefullythat somebody out there could
sponsor this podcast so we couldgo Jerusalem.
(03:16):
I thought I just had that inthere, but we're just gonna dive
right into it, cuz I just can'twait to hear Her story, her
testimony, her trip to Jerusalem.
So, sister Cooper, first wewant to begin.
How did all this trip comeabout?
We want to talk about thepreparation phase.
(03:36):
How did?
Did you just wake up onemorning, or wake up one day,
said I'm gonna Jerusalem, walkus through and our listeners
about your preparation.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Okay.
So my preparation of Jerusalem.
I had actually just placedmembership at a another church
where I had came from, and sothe talk was about Jerusalem and
so they had like the leadership, so the leaders rather was
taking a trip to Jerusalem and Ikind of overheard the talk.
(04:09):
So I was like Jerusalem, I saidoh wait, I want to go to
Jerusalem.
So, like I say, it was a reasonfor the leaders, well, for the
leaders at the church.
But then I asked about it andthey say anybody can come on the
trip.
So I'm like, okay, so you know,we made joke about like how
long does it take, how much gasdo we take to get to Jerusalem?
(04:31):
Or like how long does it taketo drive to Jerusalem?
So yeah, like little funnymarks or whatever.
So I End up asking my pastorabout it past the trip here and
I was like, okay, so what I needto do to go to Jerusalem.
He's like I'm going toJerusalem.
I say yes, I'm going toJerusalem.
Like it was like in my mind.
(04:52):
My mind was saying like, ohyeah, I'm going to Jerusalem.
So he had me to contact doctorJackson, thomas Jackson, and I
spoke with him and we got tolike that tenor area.
I'm not that tenor area but gotthe, the application and
everything.
So in my mind I'm like I'mgoing to Jerusalem.
(05:12):
Like I'm going to Jerusalem.
I didn't know how I was going,I didn't have the funds to go,
but in my mind I said I wasgoing.
So the deposit at this time was$500 to Secure the spot.
Well, I did have $500 at thattime to secure my spot, so I put
up my $500.
So this is like in May.
(05:34):
So the deadline for the tripwas like November the 20th.
So November the 20th, the other$4,000 had to be paid.
So, my dude, this was a $4,500trip.
So I had on paid the $500.
And then so May, june, july,august, september, March,
october, and that's been down tothe needy grid and I have not
(05:55):
paid my $4,000.
So like, oh, my goodness.
But in my mind still, I say I'mgoing to Jerusalem.
I don't know how, but I'm going.
So it was.
It got down to like I said, thedate was like November the 20th,
which was like the deadline.
I think it was somewhere aroundthat time.
And so they started calling meand I was like well, you know,
(06:17):
you got to make a payment andthe payments do and Time is one
day today's, tomorrow's thedeadline.
So I start kind of voodoo phonecalls because I'm like I don't
have $4,000.
So they keep on constant.
I kept on hitting the bullet, Ikept on hitting reject, but
that just when I answer theycall because I knew I didn't
have the money to do it over thephone and I knew that's what
(06:39):
they was calling me for.
Was they paid me over the phone.
So Then that's not.
So I kind of played it down alittle bit.
I'm like I'm calling next day.
So they got me like I missedthe phone cause I can see like
what's going on.
But Thomas Jackson, you know,call me that night like Cover,
you got to make the payment fortomorrow, can you do anything?
(06:59):
I'm like I Said I don't knowwhat I'm gonna do.
I said but I'm gonna get it,I'm gonna get it, I'm gonna get
it.
I'm just kept on telling I'mgetting that magic.
It's pressure on me tonightbefore to come over $4,000, no
job, no money, and trying tofigure out how I'm gonna come
over $4,000 in less than maybeabout eight hours.
So I was like okay, I said well, can't y'all like give me to
(07:24):
like at least eight o'clock,nine o'clock tomorrow, just give
me to nine o'clock tomorrow.
And so he was like, well,tomorrow's the deadline for the
trip, so of course I wouldn'thave lost my $500.
So, my god, my daddy end upsending a room in B Bush the
next morning, I end up having$4,000.
(07:48):
So I was so Grateful but in mymind, like I said, it was just
no doubt in my mind that I wasnot going cuz I just had my mind
set that I'm going and I knowthat God just knew my heart.
Was she just saying she going,she gotta go cuz?
It was like nothing was nothingwas stopping, it wasn't a
(08:09):
doctor said, well, maybe I wantto be able to go, y'all cuz I
could.
I could have told Jackson like,well, I might not be, it was no
doubt, it was none.
No, no, no, just give me, justgive me some more time.
That's what I was telling.
Just give me some more time.
But yes, they ran me in, bushcame through and I'm grateful to
God I was able to make their$4,000 payment and, yeah, I was
(08:31):
in the room.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Wow, that's, that's a blessing.
You know when, when you'resharing that, it brought me back
to some of the experiences thatI Experience along the way,
especially like when I was a kid.
You know, as kids See, myparents was poor, we couldn't go
to Disney World, but we saw allthe other kids that have money.
They used to go to Disney Worldevery summer and come back,
yeah, you know what the DisneyWorld.
And they, they said, you know,go to school.
(08:54):
They used to talk about DisneyWorld and I'm like man, I want
to go to Disney World one day.
And then when I went there, Ijust like lost my mind.
I was like, wow, I'm in DisneyWorld.
And then.
So even just you sharing thatyou know Things that we read in
the Bible or even things that wesee in the TV.
It's one thing to read it, usto see it, but it's it's another
to actually be there present.
And that's why I've mentionedon the top of the show, you're
(09:16):
gonna take us on a spiritualjourney.
So, yes, we're gonna be talkingabout Jericho, we'll be talking
about Jesus, bethlehem,nazareth, jordan rivers, the Sea
of Galilee, the Gardener,kissimmee, the path to the cross
and also the Garden Tomb.
So we're gonna methodicallyWalk through this journey
together, but you're gonna besharing your experience.
(09:36):
So first we're gonna talk aboutJericho, but before we talk
about your experience in Jericho, let me just read a brief
summary about Jericho.
So Joshua is the leader at thistime in Jericho.
Jericho is mentioned in the OldTestament of the Bible and it is
first found in the book ofJoshua.
What happened?
Joshua being a new leader asMoses passed on the baton to
(09:59):
carry his new leadership role,something special happened.
Something special happened inthe midst of Jericho and I'm not
gonna go too far in the detailinto it.
All I want the people to knowis that Joshua is the new leader
and Joshua have new followersfollowing him.
Joshua was given an assignmentto God to go to Jericho and you
(10:22):
know the history.
I want you to tell us aboutyour experience and if you want
to share a little bit of history, you could do that as well.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Well, yes, um, standing over in Jericho was
very profound, I must say,because I could say I was
literally standing in Jericho,like I was right there in
Jericho.
So I'm often telling peopleabout faith, the faith the size
(10:50):
of a mustard seed, and I'm often, you know, encouraging people
Just because you don't see itdoesn't mean it's not there and
then to connect its Jericho likeit was that faith moment, like
I'm actually standing over,looking over Jericho.
So not only am I can, not onlyam I using my own mustard seed,
(11:15):
faith, I'm actually connectingwith it right now because I've
never seen it, but by faith I'mlike I'm gonna be there, I'm
gonna go.
So just to be standing overover where Joshua hey command to
tell the people to walk aroundthis city that I am standing in,
(11:37):
seven times for the walls tocome falling down.
So the first time, just knowinghow they went, and they walked
around it one time and then wentback to where they laid their
head and came back again thesecond time, and then the third
time, and fourth time, and thefifth time, and then until the
seventh time.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Come back to Jericho and for them to walk around
seven times of Jericho and thenwhen he makes the sound, when he
give the command to shout, andthen he walls on come coming
down, like I walk around andwalk around and then I shout and
then some walls gonna fall down.
That's got this faith rightthere.
Yeah, who would say I'm gonnawalk around and then, oh, we
(12:23):
gonna shout and then the wallsgonna come falling down, like
who would, why and how?
But it was the faith that theybelieve that if we do this and
we walk around seven times andwe shout, that now we get to hit
, the walls come falling downand then they inherit all this.
So I'm just standingoverlooking it, the what
(12:45):
happened back then.
So that was just like it is.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
It is profound because that's that's a
historical landmark.
So when you are actually there,so I.
These are these are the thingsthat I read in the Bible Joshua,
chapter six, when the wallscame falling down, as you
mentioned, but just to see thepower of God, because God at
this point is where Israel.
So just to see the power God,he gave them instructions what
(13:12):
they need to do.
Obviously, gave Joshua theinstructions.
Joshua gave the peopleinstructions and for them to
actually follow suit and do it,and just to see the hand of God,
how the walls came falling down.
Like you said, it was a degreeof faith and even trusting in
God and obeying God's ordinance.
But I mean that's powerful tome.
I would have been like a kidjust looking at Jericho.
I'd be like, wow, god, you didsome powerful things here in the
(13:34):
city.
So I think you again forsharing it with us, because
those of us that read the Bibleand they know a little bit of
history for you to actually bethere, that's a different
feeling.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Amen, amen.
I'm gonna ask you to talk to usabout Jesus and I'm gonna share
a few thoughts and then you canshare your experience.
Jesus Christ is known by JesusChrist, god, the Messiah, the
Son of God, the Son of man,emmanuel, lamb of God, king of
(14:03):
Kings, lord of Lords, savior,the Word, etc.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
You were in the place where Jesus Christ walks.
So I know you know likewhenever you have a figure in a
certain city or a certain state,you be like man, michael Jordan
was here.
I'm just using sports, forexample.
I like sports.
Michael Jordan was here likethis is where Michael Jordan,
this is where he lived.
So you were in a place whereour Savior was.
So I know the noise is stillringing even in that place to
(14:31):
this day like do people actuallyview him as a carpenter or even
Savior or both?
Could you expound more on that?
Speaker 1 (14:39):
It was more of the stone maesary.
So that's how Jesus works.
He worked like off the stonemaesary.
So just to know that you know,what we think over here is
totally different over there.
You know, you read the Bible.
It's more of you have to knowwhat you're reading, I mean know
what you're reading before youeven get in there, so that it
(15:01):
can kind of all connect witheach other.
So you don't want to put Danielat the burning bush, you don't
want to put Moses in the ark, soyou kind of want to know what
it is once you actually get inthere.
So that's what I was.
I really, when I was there, Ireally wasn't connecting because
(15:21):
I was just more of overwhelmedthan what I was seeing.
So the fact that I was moreoverwhelmed than what I was
seeing, then it kind of said,okay, I got to be more into my
Bible, more I got to know more.
Okay, jesus was this one thatwas actually walking through,
you know, miracles.
(15:42):
Like you know, they actuallyhated on this person.
They actually did everything.
Like you know, what was it thathe did wrong for y'all to
dislike him so much?
Or what was it that y'all hedid wrong to make you hate him,
but you know, just being inthere, it was very, very, very,
very, a very incredible momentamen.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
I mean I, you know, I would have been overwhelmed as
well, because and I thank youagain for bringing clarity to me
and even our listeners aboutthe carpentry because we in the
western world, when we think ofcarpentry, we think of it in a
western way, we don't thinkabout it how they do it over
there in the east or inJerusalem.
So again, I thank you again forbringing clarity today.
(16:28):
So we're moving forward,tiptoeing through your journey
in Jerusalem.
So now we're going to discussBethlehem.
So in Bethlehem, in the Bible,in the book of Matthew, chapter
2, verse 1, it says now, whenJesus was born in Bethlehem of
Judea, in the days of Herod theking, behold, wise men from the
east came to Jerusalem saying so.
That's in Matthew 2, 1.
(16:48):
So you were in Bethlehem.
Like I said, we're tiptoeingthrough your journey in
Jerusalem.
Can you tell our listeners justbriefly about your experience
in Bethlehem?
Speaker 1 (16:58):
Bethlehem.
Jesus came out of Bethlehem, soBethlehem is known as the house
of bread.
At first I didn't, you know, Ikind of got confused, like the
house of bread house is thehouse of bread but Jesus is the
house of the bread.
(17:19):
So that's the foundation ofBethlehem and just you know, go
in.
You know we look at them.
I looked at the manger, whereyou think that he's in his barn
with animals and you know peopleare surrounding, but it's
actually a, it's actually insideof a.
You know it was like it's notwhat we think of as a barn, that
(17:42):
that's not the main.
You know we do Christmas and wesay Jesus was in the manger,
but it wasn't that type of manwhere a born, you know, and just
to be inside of there to youknow, see, this is where he was,
the star was actually born.
And then over here he's noteven three feet away where he's
(18:03):
actually put in, you know, themanger.
It was just mind-blowing, likeit was just to actually be there
and to see this is where thestar was born in Bethlehem amen,
that's.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
That's powerful.
Because when you think aboutthe house of bread and Jesus
says I am the bread of life,right, and if we go back to, I
want to say it's in the Psalmswhere David is talking that you
know.
It's not the Psalms, oh Lord,have mercy.
It's when God sends Samuel toanoint King David.
(18:41):
Right, he sends him toBethlehem.
So it's like it's like God is sostrategic in everything that he
is doing as far as our Lord andSavior, and for us to
understand, like when we readthe word, we need to start
reading it through the eyes ofWestern men and start reading it
through the eyes of those inthe Middle East and stuff,
(19:05):
because the lifestyle, theculture, the customs, everything
are completely different.
So as I, as I'm listening toyou, you're actually bringing
the word to life for me, becausenow it's like, oh okay, so
Bethlehem, house of bread, jesus, bread of life, that's that's.
You know that that's sopowerful, really, really, truly
(19:26):
profound.
So let me take you now toNazareth.
I want you to discuss inNazareth with us.
And it says Matthew I'm gonnaread Matthew 2, 23.
And it says and he went andlived in this city called
Nazareth, so that what wasspoken by the prophets might be
(19:48):
fulfilled, that he would becalled a Nazarene.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Share your experience in Nazareth, okay so I'm in
Nazareth looking over again allof this like land and just like,
okay.
So the first thing is what goodcan come out of Nazareth?
And I'm just standing on thetop, like you know, to know
Jesus stood up there and youknow speaking, and then you have
(20:17):
it where you, actually,standing up, like it was, the
site was so beautiful, it wasmore of like, hmm, me standing
up there with Jesus up there.
I was just like you know, in myown mind, cause I kinda like
(20:38):
had like the wind blowing.
I was just like in a moment upthere, like it was, just like I
was just looking out at theworld, like just visually
visualizing just to be standingthere with Jesus and we just
standing there.
And I'm in Nazareth.
I'm up here in Nazareth.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
So, since the Cooper, do it look like the hood?
Cause you know, like, you know,like they say, no good Nazareth
Right, so do it look like thehood man.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
It looked like nothing like the hood, it was
just so pretty.
The landscaping, it was justlike OMG.
But I do have several picturesthough.
Like, if anybody like gooutside of this park and go to
it, you can see, like it, thesite is just a beautiful site to
see and it's just meditation,you know, just a piece of mind.
(21:30):
Like I said, I stood up thereby myself for a moment and I
just had my moment, like it wasjust a peaceful moment, like
Jesus is right here, like he wasthere, like the whole.
Like in certain times of it waslike okay, jesus, you right
here, you right here with meagain.
Like just to feel that spirit.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Wow, I'm glad you're sharing this, cause, even when
you're sharing, it is like itmakes me want to go, cause it's
like this is where our saviorwas and then, like you said, you
felt him like he was rightthere, so as though you could
feel his presence because hisearthly body was there and then
that's where he was right, causewe know he was born in
Bethlehem, he went to Egypt andhe went to Nazareth and he was
(22:10):
raised in Nazareth.
So thank you for sharing yourexperience with us and the
reason why we want you to shareyour experience because we want
people out there to make thatconnection.
Because, as you're sharing,like I said, it makes me want to
like I'm out of here.
I already got I recently got mypassport, so probably got a
lobby to get my passport for areason.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
I'm going to.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Jerusalem.
So, moving forward, you know,you know, I know your trip.
You had so many things that youcould talk about your trip and
I know we're just you're justtaking us on a field trip and
we're just tiptoeing throughsome of the landmarks you went
to.
So the next line item we wantto talk about is the Jordan
River.
But before you talk about yourexperience of the Jordan River,
(22:53):
so we know that there areseveral historical events that
took place at the Jordan Riverthe baptism of Jesus and also
the healing of Naaman.
So I think the more key one isthe baptism of Jesus and, of
course, a pivotal verse isMatthew, chapter three, verse 13
.
So you were at the river thatour Savior got baptized.
(23:18):
Please, please, please, pleasetell us, share your experience.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Oh, my goodness.
So the water was cold, uh-huh.
So, yes, walking into the place, it was like, okay, people were
just, you know, it was likeeverybody on white, like you
(23:41):
know, just like going in there.
And then, you know, justlooking around, so when I got
ready to go in there, I'm like,okay, I'm going to get baptized
in the Jordan River.
So they're first hit theprocess in my brain, like I'm
actually going to go down.
So when I got off in there andI can see the water was cold,
(24:03):
and to just get emerged out inthe water and then come up, like
that moment was breathtaking,that moment was speechless.
That was like, you know, whenGod said, um, in the heavens
open and this is my son, who Iam well, please like that
(24:27):
feeling.
I can't explain it, feelinginside, but it's like when I
came up, it was just so freshand so breathtaking and so
renewed, like I got baptized inthe Jordan River, the same river
that Jesus got baptized in.
Yeah, that was, that was a,that was a crisis moment.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
Wow, I've seen people go to Jerusalem and get
baptized in the Jordan River,and you're the only person I've
ever heard explain it this way,like the, and I'm and I'm
correlating it because of yourbelief and your relationship
with the Lord.
(25:12):
So for you, it's not just abaptism.
This is like.
This is where my Lord andSavior stood, and John the
Baptist says to him I need to bebaptized of you.
And you come to me and he saidlet it be.
And he said let me baptize you.
So you just shared a completelydifferent experience than most
(25:33):
people have had.
Right, and I think that's themost powerful part is that the
relationship that we have withour Lord and Savior makes a
difference.
When we do take that tripBecause I'm speaking it into
existence I will be going toIsrael.
Right, I have that experiencebecause I definitely want to do
(25:55):
the baptism at the Jordan Riverand I'm and I'm also playing it
in my mind like why Naaman hadan issue with dipping seven
times Because to him it was likeit was muddy water.
But that's not what you said.
You're like it was cold, it was, it just was a fresh, fresh
thing.
So I really appreciate yougiving us a completely different
(26:18):
visual of being baptized in theJordan River.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Yes, because, like I said, I've been baptized, I've
been baptized before and thatwas just a different.
That was a different feeling,you know.
Because it's like why are yougoing to get baptized?
You already got baptized before, so why don't you do it again?
Because that's a totallydifferent to me.
(26:44):
In my mind now that's just atotally different baptism,
because, number one, I'm gettingbaptized with.
Jesus got baptized there.
That's number one.
And then number two, just toexperience this whole Jordan
River, to be standing in thisJordan River with the water.
It's like is the water clear?
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Is it muddy?
How was the water in there?
Well, the water was again.
It was cold, it was that.
It wasn't like a crystal clear,like you know that really blue
water.
It wasn't that look, and Iain't gonna say it was the muddy
water either, but it was thatmixture of water.
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It wasn't the water that I'mlooking at, the water.
I ain't getting that water.
That water is dirty.
It wasn't that kind of.
It was like okay.
I'll get this water and I cansay go down and just come down
back up and you're just going tolove it.
I'm just letting you know inadvance because I heard you
speaking it into.
Existence and Manifestation isreal, I am aware of it.
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So you know when you go down,because you're gonna go down in
the water.
You're gonna speak to God, tothe reason.
It's gonna be mind blowing andmind changing, because one thing
for certain and two things forsure whenever you go to Israel,
you will not, your life willnever be the same.
You will not come back thistime first.
So this happened with me.
(28:10):
We're in September now.
I have not been the same sinceyou know, before I went to
Jerusalem, I'm just a wholedifferent person.
You know people don'tunderstand that and people don't
see that because you know theyhaven't you know been there or
just experienced it.
So I can't explain.
You know, you know, say youcome back different, oh, you
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just changed.
Oh, you know it's a lifechanging.
I'm telling you, you don't justgo to, like, go to Disney World,
and then you go, go to DisneyWorld, and then you know you'll
still be the same.
Yeah, I went to Disney World.
I wrote on his ride, I did this, this, this.
But when you go there and thesign completely tells you when
you get there, your life willnot be the same.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
Amen.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
And it is so true and I think anybody that has been
you know the people that I'vebeen with and I'm sure the
people that have been before methey can vouch for that.
But for me, speaking on it, yourlife will be the same.
You'll be a totally like yourmindset, like reading a Bible.
It's totally different nowreading a Bible because, just
like I was sharing with Nick,now that I'm reading a Bible,
(29:14):
I'm reading and I'm connectingwith me being in the war,
because I just literally readthis the other night or last
night, how John baptized him andthen when he came out, then God
said from heaven, open up theclouds of heaven and said this
is my son.
Now I'm saying me being in theJordan River and then the clouds
(29:37):
are now opening up.
Like I'm saying the cloudsopening up and I'm hearing Jesus
saying, I'm hearing God sayingthis is my son, who I'm will
please that you know.
So I'm connecting witheverything.
So this is a lot.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
It's so much more to that, so yeah the connection is
not the same.
Mercy.
Wow, all right, let's go to theSea of Galilee, mark 1.16,.
Passing alongside the Sea ofGalilee, he saw Simon and Andrew
, the brother of Simon, passinga net into the sea, for they
(30:14):
were fishermen.
Tell us your experience on theSea of Galilee or walking by the
Sea of Galilee, okay so the Seaof Galilee, that was like I
think that's what y'all passed.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
It was on the boats.
He was, he rocked the boat.
That was was, uh, out there, herocked it.
No, oh, he, he, he, he spokeword, he spoke a word on this
boat.
Just to be on the boat of theSea of Galilee was again I keep
(30:48):
using it seems to be a differentword like speechless, because
the whole thing was speechless,but just like mind blowing.
I'm on this on the Sea ofGalilee.
Now, imagine, now this is whatPeter is saying um, he's on this
boat and you know, jesus issleeping, and now he got to step
(31:11):
outside of this boat and he gotto walk with the water by faith
, so just to know he is reachingout his hand and Jesus is
walking across this water.
And this is just my mind, howI'm on the boat and I'm
recording and I'm just like, ohmy goodness, like just seeing
Jesus, you know, walking acrossthe water.
(31:33):
And then I just scratch myhands out and just, you know,
just grab me and I just, youknow, reach out and just walking
on water and only by faith, youknow I'm doing this, that was,
that was, that was.
And then the listening to howthe winds were blowing, and then
(31:54):
we had this guy.
He was singing what was thesong?
I think it was right now, buthe was singing the song and he's
sung it in their language, in adifferent language, and it was
so beautiful, oh my God, it wasso beautiful.
(32:14):
And then it's just like youknow, back to just having the
faith of you know.
They fishing all night, theyfishing and nothing's being
caught, nothing's being caught,nothing's being caught.
And then you can say I'm goingto make you a fisherman,
fisherman, a man.
And then you just catch yourneck and then the whole neck is
(32:36):
just like feel a fish.
Oh yeah, that was like.
That was the Sea of Galilee.
That was another greatexperience.
Yeah, that was just amazing.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Wow, that is amazing, Adanie, I'm, I'm, adanie, we,
yeah, you're right, I'm going tohave to figure a way out how to
go to Jerusalem because wedon't have a visual right now.
And if you know, sister, and atthe Teladis podcast, sister,
we're going to share with youguys, where you can find all the
(33:13):
visuals.
But even just her sharing itverbally, I mean, I still feel
there's a connection.
I could feel the way she'sexplaining it and I'm like
because I read the Bible, sowhen she's talking about the Sea
of Galilee and all these otherplaces, I'm making that
connection and, man, it makes mejust want to be there, like
like today, like today.
(33:34):
But we're going to move forwardto the Garden of Gassimi, but
before you share your experience, so let me just say a few
things.
This is when Jesus Christ Iwould say what I was at he was
at his lowest point and he waswhere Peter James and John.
So in Matthew 26, chapter 26,verse 36, it said then Jesus
went with them to a place calledGassimi and he said to his
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disciples, which is Peter, jamesand John, he said sit here
while I go over there and pray.
So he wanted them to.
Well, actually, he wanted themto watch and pray, but Jesus
Christ wanted to pray as well.
So, based on that experience,or even this context that you
know about Jesus, what he didwhile he was at Gassimi, share
with us your experience.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
Okay, so my experience in the Garden of
Gassimi it was.
It was very emotional and I'mgoing to share this with you
guys.
My daughter, she ended upgetting sick while I was in
Jerusalem and she has thisdisease ahead, the disease where
it's called Ciclit Bumini, andI had got this phone call right
(34:37):
before I ended up going to theGarden of Gassimi and it really
bothered me because I'm like I'mso far away, there's nothing I
can do, and she had theseepisodes where she vomits for
like two, three days straightand it's just like a nonstop
thing.
So I got their phone call rightbefore that and so my mind was
(34:59):
just all over the place thatmorning, like I was sad, I was
just like in the moment.
But then when I got in there,garden of Gassimi, that was a
whole different.
You know the preacher startedpraying with me.
You know I just had my moment.
I cried because this is thesame place that Jesus was at,
(35:20):
right before he had to go getcrucified, and he knew he had to
do it.
He said, lord, let this cuppass over, like he didn't want
to do that.
He didn't want to do that.
And just to know, I'm sittinghere in pain because, you know,
my daughter, she's away.
I mean, she's so far away andI'm right here and there's
nothing that I can do.
And then I'm connecting withJesus, like, okay, you want this
(35:43):
cup to pass over, but you know,if not, but not my will, but
not my will, let your will bedone.
So I was able to wrap aroundthat and to connect around it,
like you know, being in thatgarden where Jesus actually was
praying, like I'm sitting on thestool, sitting on the bench,
(36:04):
just in a whole moment of prayer, like Jesus in me, just Jesus
in me.
And you know I was praying andjust you know I'm praying for my
daughter, just praying for youknow the whole outcome and I
felt so much of a burning thatwas lifted up off me in that
garden and it's like Jesus isreally in the garden, like
(36:26):
everywhere I move.
I'm telling you how it was likeJesus was with me, jesus was
with me, wow, and when he moved,when he moved, I moved, just
like that.
So, yes, that garden of God, somany, that was like you know it
was.
It was a lot of tears there andthis was just within my group.
(36:47):
It was like tears shed, youknow, because that was an
intimate moment, just being inthere that was.
it was so intimate.
It wasn't nothing of.
You know, I don't think I.
It probably wasn't a dry facein there, I mean the preachers,
everybody was emotional and itwas just because it took me
there Like, oh my God, jesus isabout to go.
(37:10):
And you know he has to go to becrucified.
But he and he know, you knowhe's been portrayed.
But then, you know, but he wasso humble to say, but not my
will, he wasn't selfish about it.
You know, not my will, but letyour will be done and whatever
your will is, father, I'm withthat.
So that was the, the touchingmoment that was.
(37:33):
It was very touching.
You know, it takes me backthere now, just sitting here
talking about it, because youknow the trees and just you know
we sitting in there and youknow there's a sermon given
about, you know how Jesus isabout the night before, you know
he's about to go get crucified.
(37:53):
And then it just took us backthere, like it was a story and
we just sitting there and welistening and it's just so
heartfelt and so touching, like,yeah, come through Jesus, come
on, come on.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
Yeah, it is, it is.
It is emotional Cause, even theway you explain it, like I'm
getting emotional.
And then I want people to makethat connection.
You know, although youexperienced it firsthand because
you was at Kissimmee so whatJesus Christ went through.
I want all believers toexperience that they don't have
to necessarily go to Jerusalem.
(38:27):
The reality is that once we'rein the body of Christ, we have
to think about our Savior.
We got to think about all thethings that he went through for
the sake of humanity.
So when you're sharing thisstory about his experience at
Kissimmee, I mean Jesus Christwas emotional, he was an agony,
he was in pain and on top ofthat he had three individuals he
(38:47):
thought, you know, had his backand they fell asleep.
So when we, when we see thefallible nature of man, that
they could even even watch andpray for their own Savior, and
then Jesus Christ was prettymuch on his own until the angels
, the messengers, came down andministered to him and, like how
you alluded to, you said that hesaid, look, it's not my will,
but let thy will be done.
(39:09):
So I make that connection.
So when we go hard for God andwe do the things that we do for
God is because we remember whatJesus Christ did for us, and I
want whoever's listening to thisthat they need to remember why
they became a Christian.
They need to remember why Godwake them up every day.
It's not solely just to workand just do the things.
(39:29):
What I do, whatever you big andbad enough to do.
No, you need to sit back andyou need to remember what the
Savior did for you and you needto do his will.
Speaker 3 (39:39):
Amen, Amen.
The path to the cross, the Viade la Ressau, the path that
Jesus walked before hiscrucifixion.
Events related to Via de laRossa the Last Supper, Gatsimony
(40:00):
Trial Before Pilate MochoreeCarrying the Cross and
Crucifixion.
Share with us your experienceon the road to or on the Via de
la Rossa.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
Okay.
So, if I can be transparent, Iwas on the Via de la Rossa and
so my pastor pastor of the beardhe said you know what we're
walking on and I'm like you know, I know this, the path of you
know with Jesus.
And so he pointed to the sign.
He said this is the Via de laRossa.
So I looked up, I said Via dela Rossa.
He said that's what it's calledVia de la Rossa.
(40:37):
I didn't know it, you know.
But when he told me that heconnected and I was like so we
on the path where Jesus actuallywalked, this walk and carry
something, my mind this, yeah,my mind went.
I'm glad he told me that.
I'm so glad he told me becausemy mind went straight to
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imagining, visualizing Jesuswalking the Via della Rosa and
then he has this cross on hisback.
So while our tour guide istalking to us, he's now telling
us the walk of this is the firstwalk and this is how he was
walking and how he stumbled andthen first walk, he just stopped
and then his hand print wasjust right there in the wall.
(41:23):
So I'm looking at the wall andthen I put my hand print with
Jesus hand print and I'mliterally touching the hand
print of what Jesus actuallyfailed, like his hand prints
were still there.
Y'all His hand prints was stillin that wall.
That was so, so, so old.
(41:45):
My goodness, that was so thechills.
It was chills, like chills inmy body to be able to touch the
wall where he failed.
Then you know he's walking andhe's knowing that.
You know he's about to becrucified.
And then he got his mom.
You know it's like all thesedoors that he's stumbling and
(42:05):
you know he's about to becrucified.
And then his mom sitting here.
You know she's witnessingwhat's going on and then you
know it just took the lowestupper.
It's to a whole another level.
I don't even take the lowest upof the same number.
Ever since I came back fromJerusalem, the lowest upper is
totally different in my mind now.
(42:26):
Like I sit there and I'm likejust it takes me back to
Jerusalem.
Every time we're taking thelowest upper, because before I
went to Jerusalem I was like thelowest upper.
Right now I'm taking the lowestupper.
This is one of the acts, thisis what we're doing.
But once you connect to that,you can't take the lowest upper,
the same number.
(42:46):
You can't sit there and notreminisce or not take you back
to where Jesus was walking andhow he just, you know, had the
cross on his back and he's justbeing beaten and he's just blood
.
Just like that, just like youknow, I get emotional with it.
(43:08):
I just get, you know, emotionaland because, just to know
that's what he did for me,little old me, he did that for
little old me, just to walk thiswalk to your Delarosa to be
headed, to be crucified, to hangon the cross, for a old, filthy
(43:29):
rag like me.
Like that, if you just take itand you think about it like that
, you, you start taking likedifferent, like you start
thinking about thingsdifferently, you'll start taking
not taking things for granted,you will start, you know,
reflecting on that and the fact,I guess, because I was there
and you know where he wasactually hung and the nails
(43:54):
pierced in his hand and piercedit, like just to see that sight,
like this is where Jesus hung,this is where he gave his life,
like I said, just for a sinnerlike me, like that's right
enough to get all fired up Likeyou know what.
Thank you, daddy, I appreciateyou.
(44:14):
And then you know you can't,you crazy, you just don't know.
You don't know that's on.
You just don't know.
When you hear me hollering andwhen you hear me clapping my
hands and when you see me, youknow, you probably think I'm
over there just being out ofcare.
I mean being, yeah, doingsomething like it.
Like they say, you don't takeall this.
Oh yes, it does.
Speaker 3 (44:35):
It does, it does.
Speaker 1 (44:36):
It does Baby, it takes all that, and then
something.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
It does yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:40):
You don't know my story.
Speaker 3 (44:42):
You don't know what.
Speaker 1 (44:42):
I witness and you don't know what I've been
through, but I want you to seethat through me, because that's
what I use.
Amen, god use that.
Speaker 3 (44:51):
The thing that I'm listening to you as you're
saying this is that so many ofus take what Jesus did for
granted, because even at thecongregation where I currently
attend, it's it's not.
I haven't even gone toJerusalem and the Lord's Supper
is different for me, right, andI don't want to just sit there
(45:12):
and they just read thescriptures and then we just take
the Lord's Supper.
It's like he says do this inremembrance of me.
Speaker 1 (45:19):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (45:20):
What are you remembering that he has done for
you, for you to sit there?
It's not just five acts, it isan intimate.
You're sitting at a table.
You've got to picture yourselfsitting at the table and Jesus
taking this bread, and he'sblessing it and he's breaking it
and he says take, eat, this ismy body which is broken for you.
(45:45):
And now you just said he's onthe road, the Via de la Rosa,
his body is broken, right,because he has just gotten
beaten.
We cannot just take the Lord'sSupper like, oh you know, let me
just eat this bread.
No, it is something so intimate,so personal, so he gave his
(46:05):
life and it's like body and Ihave to say because just hit my
heart we really need tounderstand why we're members of
the body.
Yes, absolutely, because whathe did was big, what he did was
(46:26):
grand, like there was darknesson this earth, like we just go
to church just to.
Even the singing is like are wereally lifting up songs to our
father?
Are we just standing there justsinging?
Speaker 1 (46:43):
Yes, I always just count the.
Yeah, because, see, he's not we, just there.
He's not counting the people,he's counting the sacrifice, but
it's the sacrifice that he'scounting.
It could be a church full ofpeople, but he's counting
sacrifice.
What are you coming here for?
Just like you say what are youcoming here for?
Are you just coming to say Icame to church on Sunday morning
, I did the 5X, I did the, I didmy offering, I did my community
(47:06):
.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
It is the sacrifice, and Ilearned that as well in
Jerusalem.
Like God don't count people, hecounted sacrifice.
So it could be two sacrificeamong the 200 people there, it
ain't but two people that don'tcount to sacrifice, and he knows
that, god knows that.
So it ain't the, the numbers,it's the sacrifice.
(47:28):
So just back to what you say,and like we take it for granted,
like we come in, we come tochurch and we you know people
play church.
This is time out for playingchurch.
We ain't playing church, it'stime out.
So we come, if we come, and wecome in for unity.
We come in to serve, like we'recoming to uplift, we come into
(47:50):
be because we all see when weget there.
We all want coming to ahospital, so ain't no better
than no better, because if thiscase you need to stay at home.
If you, if you 100, you perfectyou good, what you coming up
here for, this is for the sickpeople.
This is for people that'scoming out, coming in and
leaving out different, not tocome in and leave after, come in
(48:12):
the same and leave after sayingthat's not what it's for.
So, yeah, back to what you said.
This most definitely you got to.
You know we take it for granted.
We take it for granted.
You know what we're, what we'redoing, and until you just
visualize and think about youknow what you're doing it for
what, why, what?
What is the lowest up?
(48:33):
Before, like, if you.
And now they have startedplaying this video.
In some church word they showedthe video that really touches
my heart, like I know Renna'sundead after that was my first
time doing seeing it.
And then I know we do it some,we've done it before.
And now it really takes me backto Drew, because before I don't
think if I could have saw thatvideo before, you know, to have
(48:56):
what I have right now.
Now, when I see that videodoing communion.
It's like, you know, it's notto be sad, it's not to be sad at
all, but it's just to know thisis what Jesus did for me, this
is the, this is what hesacrificed for me.
So, in least, the least I coulddo, the least I could do.
Speaker 2 (49:18):
So, speaking of Christ, so we know that there's
a lot of different religions andJesus Christ was the only God
that actually was raised fromthe dead.
We know he went through deathbearer and he was resurrected.
So we want to talk about thegarden tomb.
So I do have a referencescripture found in Mark, chapter
15, verse 46.
(49:38):
It says and Joseph brought alinen, a Shrod, and, taking him
down, wrapped him in the linenshrod and laid him in a tomb
that had been cut out of therock and he rolled the stone
against the entrance of the tomb.
So I know you had yourexperience in a garden tomb when
(50:01):
our savior was laid.
Could you share your experienceabout the garden tomb?
Speaker 1 (50:06):
So the garden tomb, first of all, the rock inside of
the rock, number one, the rockinside of the rock.
Come on that, because Jesus isthe rock of the world.
So the fact that you know theyput them there and so walk up
and just walk inside of there,that's whom, look up against the
(50:29):
walls and just see that he isnot there anymore.
Like I got sad.
I think he ain't that no more.
Yeah, he has risen.
Yeah, these are my women's day.
Jesus was not in a tomb, he isnot there.
He has risen and he, he, he'snow.
(50:50):
You know he's not there anymore.
Speaker 2 (50:53):
So yeah, man, yeah, yeah, I hear that one Sunday.
Speaker 1 (51:04):
Oh, let me give my vocal back, jesus rose, oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (51:23):
Yeah, but listen, we're about to wrap these up and
again, again.
We want to thank you so muchfor shares to your experience
that, although we didn't have avisual, we don't have a visual
right now I mean every word thatcame out of your mind.
I felt it in the spirit.
So if anybody's connected withGod and they have the Holy
Spirit, sometimes they don'tneed to see.
It's by faith.
(51:43):
I felt what you felt and the adnew felt the same thing.
So, anything you want to sharewith our listeners.
Speaker 1 (51:51):
Okay, well, yeah, I do have a blog.
If you want to go back to myblog to actually I did a
documentary on this.
I might didn't catch.
I mean, yeah, I didn't get tosay everything because you know
I was.
I was gone for like two weeksbut people thought I was gone
for that for about two months orso.
You go back to Daily dose oflove.
(52:12):
This daily dose of love, helloyou be.
It's my blog every, everymorning.
It's it's an encouragementblock.
I don't know what people gothrough.
I just allow God to use me tobe a blessing to others and it
might not be a dose for you, butit can be a dose for someone
else and you could just spreadthe love.
Also, you can find it onInstagram as well.
(52:33):
It's daily dose of love.
Same thing.
It's an encouraging blog.
Never know what people goingthrough, but hey, could be
something that could encourageyou.
Also, you can find on Facebook.
I did say that my daughter.
She has a book out is calledBrookman's beautiful bubbles as
well.
She just wrote her.
She's an author of her firstbook.
(52:54):
She's eight years old.
Um, you can find that on Amazonalso.
My email address is love Cooperat Yahoocom again this L?
O you be Cooper at Yahoocom.
Speaker 2 (53:10):
Amen, amen.
So also what I want to add ontop of that.
So if y'all want to have avisual of what sister Cooper
shared, you guys could find avisual on a real talk now From
sister Roz on Facebook.
Real talk now from sister Rozon Facebook.
Now, are you actually comingout with a DACA, a documentary,
(53:30):
sister Cooper, like an actualvideo recording of your
experience, or it's just likepictures for now?
Speaker 1 (53:38):
So right now, if you go on there, it's a lot, if you
watch it, it's like you actuallythere, it's a lot of videos,
it's a lot of pictures that youthat will actually walk you
through Jerusalem, as though youcan feel this, though that
you're there.
So again, like I said, you haveto probably stroll down a bit.
What I might do is, once soon,just get it all on one and then
(54:00):
make that like my pin at the top.
Speaker 3 (54:03):
So when people Sit again, put it on you, put it on
what YouTube?
Speaker 1 (54:12):
on you, oh, yeah, okay, yeah, and put everything
together and then that way youwill have the whole story of
Jerusalem.
And if anybody looking to go toJerusalem like I said, dr
Thomas Jackson he is the personthat is over, he does these
trips like twice a year isactually one coming up in
January 2024 you might have thesame thing like I have you
(54:36):
having to November to make that$4,500 payment if you like to go
in January, oh, 2024, that tripis coming up and then I will
have another documentary comingreal soon.
Stay tuned, can't steal thebeans right now All right, but
it'll be another out of thecountry thing that I know that
you guys are absolutely love.
I can't wait to share thatexperience and again, I don't
(55:00):
know how I'm gonna do it, but Ibelieve I'm gonna do it.
Speaker 2 (55:03):
So, sister, since the Cooper I know on brother, is it
minister, dr Thomas Jackson?
So, minister, talk, doctorThomas Jackson, that is correct.
I know he's one of theprominent preachers in a
brotherhood so we're gonnaprovide all his information in
the show notes.
So if anybody is interested ina trip, and they have to be in
(55:23):
the body of Christ, correct?
Speaker 1 (55:25):
I mean, it's a worldwide thing, so anybody that
wants to go, right, okay, takethat trip to Jerusalem, because
it's a different people allaround that goes.
So it's not limited to who canand cannot go.
Anybody can take this trip.
I Courage someone to investinto this, like to say, if you
can invest in Disney World andcome back with just the fun I
(55:46):
went to Disney World I wouldsuggest you invest into
Jerusalem and make that paymentand there was to be something
that would stick with you forlife.
Speaker 3 (55:53):
Amen, I'm, I'm just and I, like I said, I will be
going to Jerusalem.
That's something that's been onmy heart.
So just listening to you, itdefinitely it shifted something
in me.
Just listening to you right now, just knowing that he loves us
y'all, like God, loves us somuch.
(56:17):
We were his enemies and heloves us so much.
He sent his son in the form of ababy, who was almost Attacked
by Herod Angel says take him toEgypt, right.
And then he comes back, 12years old, he's found Speaking
(56:40):
in a wisdom and then, when hecomes back on the scene, he's
baptized by John.
I'm taking y'all on a brieftrip so you can understand how
much he loves you.
And Then getting baptized andgoing into the wilderness to be
tried.
After being tried, he goes outand says the kingdom of heaven
(57:01):
is at hand.
Three years later, he's beaten,he is bruised and he, he
becomes the perfect Lamb ofsacrifice for you and for me.
Members of the body of Christ,I challenge you to stop just
(57:23):
going to church and Start goinginto his presence and sit and
Just welcome him and communewith him and enjoy him.
I didn't even take theJerusalem trip and I just felt
like I had such an experiencewith him, I Will never worship
the Lord the same, and Ichallenge you not to do the same
(57:46):
as well.
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Thank you for listening andremember God is good all the
time and all the time God isgood and also Jesus Christ loves
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you.
Thank you you.
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