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February 20, 2025 52 mins

Can radical acceptance be the key to both business success and personal transformation?

In this episode of "Came Here to Love," host Liz Logan sits down with Brian Robertson, the creator of Holacracy, the world's most widespread framework for self-managed companies using decentralized power structures. Robertson has founded multiple successful organizations over three decades, including Holacracy One and GlassFrog. His latest venture is Ledgeway Sangha, a unique psychedelic church that focuses on creating mystics rather than priests, fostering direct experiences of love through sacred ceremonies and community healing.


The conversation weaves through Robertson's remarkable journey from successful tech entrepreneur to spiritual facilitator, including a powerful story about his relationship with his crack-addicted father that taught him profound lessons about unconditional acceptance. They explore topics ranging from sacred medicine and indigenous wisdom to conscious business leadership, discussing how inner work and radical acceptance can transform both personal relationships and organizational dynamics. The episode includes Robertson sharing his acclaimed poem "Knowing Love," which encapsulates his philosophy about love as the ultimate truth.

Brian Robertson is the creator of Holacracy, a widely adopted framework for self-managed companies that replaces traditional hierarchies with decentralized power structures. He founded HolacracyOne to help organizations unlock creativity and empower leadership. Additionally, Robertson founded GlassFrog, a software company that enhances organizational transparency and alignment. His passion for human potential is fueled by spirituality, which he often explores in talks and interviews blending business, management, and consciousness. His book, *Holacracy: The New Management System for a Rapidly Changing World*, has influenced tens of thousands of companies globally.


In this episode:

  • (00:00) Introduction to Brian Robertson, Creator of Holacracy, what we’re loving right now
  • (03:16) Brian's Work with Psychedelic Church, Introduction to Ledgeway Sangha and Its Mission
  • (06:45) Liz’s Background with Sacred Medicine and Indigenous Wisdom
  • (13:23) Brian's Journey from Business to Spiritual Leadership
  • (17:40) Profound Father-Son Story and Lessons in Acceptance
  • (23:23) A beautiful poem: Knowing Love
  • (30:11) Discussion on Sacred Ceremonies and Community
  • (37:58) Business Wisdom and Inner Work
  • (41:56) Perspectives on Past, Present, and Change
  • (48:26) Deep Reflections on Identity and Love
  • (52:32) Closing Words and Contact Information
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