August 29, 2023 • 56 mins
Welcome to another episode of the Can We Start Over podcast! This week starts with host Britt sharing his recent experience with ketamine therapy. Lindsey and Britt are feeling full of possibility after 6 weeks in Ojai!
The conversation then shifts to a powerful interview with Tressa Vazquez, a yoga teacher, holographic sound facilitator, and sacred ceremonialist.
Tressa shares her journey of leaving corporate America and finding her true purpose in life through the use of plant medicine. Her story is one of listening to her intuition and following the call of her heart, even when it meant leaving behind a comfortable and familiar life.
Tressa's story is a powerful reminder to trust your path and follow your heart's call, even when it feels scary or uncertain.
Tressa also discusses the power of love and how it guides her in holding space for others. She believes that love answers many of life's challenges and that we all can tap into this universal energy and share it with others.
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Britt (00:15):
Hello and welcome to another episode of the Can We
Start Over podcast.
My
Lindsey (00:18):
name is Brit.
And my name is Lindsay.
Welcome, welcome.
We are glad you're here.
Today I just woke up feelinglike anything is possible.
Britt (00:27):
Me too.
Partially because I did ketamineyesterday.
Lindsey (00:33):
As a therapeutic treatment.
Right, yeah.
It
Britt (00:36):
didn't just go down to the local rave and get it out of
somebody's fanny pack.
Lindsey (00:41):
Yeah, man.
Then you'll end up in a k holein a port a potty and that's not
Britt (00:45):
good.
Yeah, I always wondered what khole meant until yesterday.
When I found out I don't knowbut is that like a bad thing as
a k hole a bad you can't moveYeah, I couldn't move Oh for a
while, huh?
But I mean I set my I was in mybed right safe I knew everything
was cool, had my littleheadphones on playing, you know,
(01:07):
nature music, weird ambientshit.
Uh, cause that's what it it'scalled Mindbloom, you should
look it up.
They don't sponsor us, but uh,it's pretty cool.
And I've only done yeah, notyet.
I've only done one treatment, soI can't completely vouch for it,
but uh, it was pretty cool.
Lindsey (01:21):
Yeah, it's definitely amazing that there's an option
for someone to do psychedelictreatment, and I know there's
like so much back and forthbetween, it's not plant
medicine, it's not this, but Imean, if it helps someone feel
better, then we should justutilize it.
Yeah, I'm trying it out.
Britt (01:37):
Yeah.
You know what I also do?
I eat, uh, like gas station foodsometimes, so.
I'm not too worried about it.
I can try ketamine a coupletimes.
Uh, with, you know, I, I swim inrivers that have run off from
cities.
I don't know.
I'm not gonna overthink it.
Yeah.
You know?
Lindsey (01:56):
Yeah.
Just do what you feel called todo.
Yeah.
Britt (01:58):
And I must say in the first, uh, like, right after it
was over, I was like, wow, thatwas fun.
But was I supposed to reallylearn something just now?
Am I, should I be crying?
Should it like, what, what'swrong with me?
Am I okay?
And yes, I was okay.
But the benefits I've noticed afew hours after into today.
And I'm feeling a lot better.
(02:19):
I'm very present right now,which I'm usually not very
present.
I have to try hard to bepresent.
I'm always thinking about thenext thing.
But since yesterday morning, I'mjust focusing on now.
And that feels awesome, becausethat was my intention going into
it.
Right.
I was also, because when yousaid intentions with stuff like
this...
You also know that the medicineis just going to show you what
it shows you, right?
(02:41):
So, you can have an intention,but it's an intention.
It may not be the first thingthat happens.
So, I didn't really think myintention would happen so
easily.
Yeah.
And maybe that's just a sideeffect or something that happens
when you do the ketaminetreatment.
But luckily, it's what I wantedto happen and
Lindsey (02:58):
it's happened.
Right, right.
And well, I think there'ssomething to be said for someone
who already has own awareness.
on multiple levels and, like,has practices.
I know that's such a big word,but, you know, if you're
creative and you're devoted tosomething and you have some kind
of, like, awareness practice,whatever it is, then whatever
(03:19):
the medicine is, even if it'snot a medicine, even if it's a
modality, can, like, Help in adeeper way.
Right?
Britt (03:27):
Well,
Lindsey (03:27):
I'm feeling pretty good about it.
Yeah.
Yeah, and definitely being inOjai is just feeling so good
I've been doing my course ACourse in Miracles Work and just
feeling it loving it.
It feels really good.
Like every day.
There's a little Magicalencounter or spark or something?
(03:47):
That's like, oh, yeah, this isright.
This is exactly right.
Yeah Yeah,
Britt (03:51):
you know what else happened today?
We went to get some coffee Andran into a person that we've had
on our list to have on thepodcast.
Lindsey (03:59):
Yeah, that we had no idea would be here at all, even
in the state.
Britt (04:03):
Right, exactly.
Had no clue.
Saw him at the coffee shop.
He was super nice and was like,I want to come on your podcast.
Yeah.
Wild, so look for that.
Lindsey (04:14):
Yeah, those are those little yellow arrows, as my
lovely friend says.
And also when the little yellowarrows there aren't there, man,
just like don't freak outbecause they're coming back.
Right.
It's just actually means you'resupposed to like sit under a
tree for a while.
Right.
If there's no arrow, don'tfucking go anywhere.
Just chill out.
Britt (04:34):
Sometimes that might mean get on some ketamine treatment.
I don't know.
Right, right.
Lindsey (04:38):
Yeah, do the thing that's gonna get you back to
like your, your truest self oryour whatever can be highest
self, but it doesn't need to behighest self.
You're
Britt (04:47):
yeah, you're fine.
You're doing it.
You're fine.
You're here.
Yeah.
You're still here.
You're good.
Lindsey (04:52):
All of this feels really in line with our episode
today, and I'm so excited forour interview with one of my
teachers, my friend.
Her name is Tressa Vasquez.
She's amazing.
We met about two years ago.
She is a mother of three.
She's a yoga teacher, aholographic sound facilitator,
(05:16):
and a sacred ceremonialist.
Her work is really heartcentered.
She shares with people in thisspace of awareness.
That really helps them movetoward a deeper connection and
really in the essence of avibration of unconditional love.
And she talks a lot about it inthe interview.
(05:36):
And I think that really justlike comes off of her being.
You know, I love learning fromher.
She was actually who trained mein holographic sound.
And she does, she holds spacefor people in such a grounded
and real way.
Like she's 1000% authentic,whether she's.
Serving sound medicine, trainingsound facilitators, or holding
(05:59):
space in sacred medicineceremonies, or if she's just
being your friend.
And you can find out more aboutTressa on her website,
mamapachamedicine.
com, or follow her on Instagramat Tress37.
These links are all available inthe show notes.
and you can connect her with herand you can connect with her
(06:21):
there to find out more ways towork with her.
She is co facilitating anincredible 12 day journey into
Egypt with Dr.
Paul Hubbert, who is the founderof the Institute for Holographic
Sound and Inner Balance, andthis Egypt journey of higher
consciousness and masteryhappens November 29th through
(06:44):
December 12th.
So it's two week journey intoEgypt that includes a private
grand sound ceremony in theGreat Pyramid, which sounds
amazing.
That is insane.
I want to do it.
I know I've been wanting to goon this journey for so long and
we will do it.
Yeah.
When the time is right.
And
Britt (07:02):
we've talked to people that have done it.
With her and oh my gosh, itsounds
Lindsey (07:06):
insane.
Dr.
Paul has been leading thesejourneys for several years and
yeah Everyone we know comes backdifferent and with an incredible
story to share You can learnmore about it at
holographicsound.
com And definitely if you'relooking for an amazing journey
to go on at the end of the yearThe one to Egypt is the one to
(07:29):
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(07:54):
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(08:17):
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All right, let's get into theepisode.
Let's do it.
Tressa (08:33):
I've been thinking about this, and I've all, I've loved
listening to y'all's podcastsince you've started putting it
out, and yeah, thinking aboutwhat is my starting over story,
and There's certainly been ahandful of big moments, um, and
experiences that lent themselvesto starting over, right?
And so I can think of likebecoming a mother and getting
(08:56):
divorced and leaving corporateAmerica, um, as like three of
the big ones.
And I guess for me, I connectmost to my most recent starting
over, which was Really just likea shift in how I spend my time
and generate income and show upand, you know, uh, it's been a
(09:18):
wild and fun and beautiful ride.
I think down to like themicrocosm of it.
It's like every day I'm open tostarting over.
So like trying to be present towhatever shows up and really
like releasing the control thatLike, I think the universe knows
(09:38):
more than me, and I'm open tosee what, what arrives for me.
Yeah, that's been a reallybeautiful practice, and it's
been amazing to get toexperience, uh, life in a new
way.
And I am continually in awe of,Of the experiences I get to have
because of that.
Lindsey (09:59):
That's so amazing.
So tell us what was it likebefore this most recent shift,
you
Tressa (10:05):
know, I think that um The shift came in two big
pieces.
One was maybe actually it's beenabout 10 years ago when I left
corporate america And I spent adecade in medical and
pharmaceutical Recruiting I waslike playing the part and, you
know, climbing the ladder andget in the office and all the
(10:25):
things and it served a beautifulpurpose and then at some point I
could feel I was done.
I went through a series ofpositions trying to find the
next home that never fit.
And then at one point, I gotfired.
Honestly, that's one thing Irealized in thinking about my
starting over journeys.
I'm a little hard headed.
(10:46):
And so sometimes I'm reallygetting forced to like, no, come
on, this is not what is you'redoing here.
So yeah, so I got fired.
And in that moment, I could feelit in my body.
And I wasn't even that good atlistening to my body then.
But I could feel I cannot.
Do this again.
Like I am done working inrecruiting and at the time I was
(11:09):
teaching yoga part time and Iwas living with a partner who
allowed me the space to try toteach yoga full time and to
really follow that path ofworking in wellness and I'm so
thankful for him and for thattime in my life and for having
that little cushion to explore.
(11:29):
And that was going well.
I was happy, but I wasdefinitely struggling.
And then I found plant medicine.
And that's like the real bigstarting over is, um, beginning
to work with plant medicine,which was about six and a half
years
Lindsey (11:44):
ago.
Now I want to hear where thatled you.
What do you do?
With plant medicine and how youact as a space holder for other
people's healing that
Tressa (11:56):
year.
I think maybe that was, yeah,about 10 or nine years ago.
And the two big pieces that Igained from that experience was,
um, meeting Hanuman, which ifyou do or don't know, I know,
you know, um, we share a deeplove for Hanuman.
He's the monkey God of, um, inthe Bhagavad Gita and all in the
Hindu mythology.
(12:16):
And he, yeah, love and devotionand his, um, spirit and his
essence.
Yeah.
Just opened up so much love anddevotion in my heart and.
I love to think about it whenthey say he does the mirrors of
our hearts, you know, so that wecan reflect that pure love
(12:37):
outward.
And, um, and then I met thiscouple who started talking about
ayahuasca and I don't know, theman, he talked about literally
pouring his purge on his head.
And it was a disgusting story.
And there was some part of methat was like, I have to do
this.
And it was baffling to me thatthat was my innate response.
(12:58):
I had heard about it plenty andwas always a hard no, and there
was something in his sharingthat lit a fire in me, and I
knew, I guess, in meeting bothof those energies at that
retreat, that they were bothgoing to be a predominant part
of my life.
I had no clue how, and what it'sturned into is, really sharing
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my deepest medicine, which islove.
And it's like so cheesy, butit's so true.
And I think that the answer isalways love.
And the question is, how can Iget to love?
And.
When Rumi says, our task is notto seek for love, but all the
barriers we've built against it.
And so, like, that is the quest.
(13:41):
Where have I built barriersagainst love?
And that's how I hold space.
It's like an invitation foreveryone to find their own
vibration of love, to experiencelove, to know they are loved, to
share their love, and just to,like, give space for us all to
remember that, like, love is ourbirthright.
(14:04):
And that is all.
And I think that's where I comefrom when I hold space.
And that's where I come from inmy daily practices.
And that's where I try to comefrom in my parenting and in my
interactions with people.
It's like, uh, realizing it'sall the same.
It doesn't matter if we'resitting in ceremony together or
we're talking on this podcast orI'm driving my kids to school.
(14:27):
It's like all of it is equallyas sacred.
Lindsey (14:32):
I love it.
So beautiful.
So from that moment, is thatwhen you had this connection
with your, like, essence of.
Sharing this love, or how didthat build?
Tressa (14:45):
You know, it wasn't.
It was when I had my connection.
Yeah, experiencing this love forthe first time.
And then it just became thislike, moth to the flame.
I want to follow that feeling.
How can I be there more?
Simply because it felt good,right?
(15:06):
And in plant medicine, I knewI'd always be working with the
plants once I met them in thatway, but I had no, uh, idea what
that would actually mean andwhat would actually be asked of
me.
But it really was like a littlebit of this, like, babe in the
woods.
I was in awe of all the things Iwas experiencing, and it was
(15:26):
just one foot in front of theother, one foot in front of the
other.
And...
Eventually I was being asked tosupport in new ways and, you
know, it started by cleaning thebuckets and cooking in the
kitchen, you know, and then itstarted to grow in the ceremony
space and I could feel thisenergy inside of me being pulled
(15:47):
out and exposed and remembered.
And it's like, Oh, here we are,here we are.
And it's just, um, yeah, I thinkI do have this, uh, it can be
like a, it's a, it is annoyingto me actually, but I could feel
annoyance when I think of it,but this child like, uh, wonder
(16:09):
sometimes.
The purpose that it serves andwhat it is good for is that it
relaxes a lot of the grown upexpectations and kind of allows
me just to daydream or beoptimistic and like watch it
unfold instead of try andcontrol it.
Lindsey (16:27):
You know?
Yeah.
How did you begin to let go ofthose grown up expectations that
we, I know we all feel?
Tressa (16:38):
You know?
I think like there's been,again, periods of...
experiences that required that.
And so what comes into my heartwhen you asked me that it's
really like, uh, leaving mymarriage, right?
So I had built this life in thesuburbs with my three kids and
the house and the marriage and.
(16:59):
It was not good for me and theexpectations that were around
me.
I mean, when I decided to leavemy marriage, I feel like most
people were like, don't do that.
That's a big mistake.
You know?
And like, it's almost when it's,you get so uncomfortable that
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the unknown seems lessuncomfortable than the current
experience.
And it is a scary place to be.
But sometimes that's what ittakes to release the grown up
expectations and say, I don'tfeel good in this.
example.
And it's hard because we put somuch expectations on ourselves,
(17:42):
on each other, on what it shouldbe like.
Yeah.
And it's scary not to try tolive up to those expectations.
Lindsey (17:50):
Right.
Yeah.
And there's, I think culturallywhere we are, there's such a
disconnect that maybe a lot ofpeople don't even know.
Yes.
Or we're so used to.
Feeling to things, feeling lessthan that.
We're just like, this is it.
This must this.
I think it's,
Tressa (18:10):
yeah, such a culturally ingrained that it's like the
fish doesn't know he is in theocean.
Mm-hmm.
And you know, I pray foreveryone that they can have some
glimpse of.
Flicker of light to think, Oh,maybe I want something else if
that's what they want, you know,and that's kind of how I
(18:32):
honestly I felt about my exhusband.
He wasn't happy either, but hewould have never left because it
was comfortable.
And that I think is so common.
Lindsey (18:43):
So then how do you get to?
Washing bucket or get fromwashing buckets or working in
the kitchen.
And also I guess I want to ask,where's this happening?
When do you end up going andtraveling to, I hope I'm going
to, did you go to Peru or?
Tressa (19:03):
Eventually I did go to Peru, but initially I, so it was
beautiful.
I Bhakti Fest and then.
Within a week of being home, achildhood friend of mine who I
love dearly called me up and shesaid, this is going to sound
crazy, but hear me out.
I was at paleo effects and Iheard a panel on shamanism and I
(19:25):
want to go try ayahuasca.
Will you come with me?
And I'm like, heck yes, ofcourse I will come with you.
And that even that alone was somind boggling to me that that
happened.
Thank you so much.
That it was like, this is such afull body.
Yes.
When I didn't really know what afull body.
Yes.
Was.
And so we went synchronicity.
Lindsey (19:49):
Yeah.
Tressa (19:49):
Yeah.
Huge.
She set it all up.
She, you know, all I did was getin the car and go with her and
we ended up sitting the firstnight.
She never sat again.
She didn't even finish thatretreat.
She just, that was enough forher.
It was so clear to me that herjob, and she is such a connector
in life in so many ways, her jobwas to deliver me to the
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medicine because she's, I wouldtrust her and I would say yes to
her.
And yeah, so then I startedsitting with a group out of
Austin.
Um, and I did that for a coupleof years and then they moved to
Guatemala.
And I continued to work withthem in Guatemala.
And then I planned my first tripto Peru.
(20:32):
And by this time I was aboutthree to four years working with
the medicine.
And then COVID happened and Ididn't make it into my, my
planned trip.
And.
That was actually such abeautiful, I mean, I understand
so many people had a lot ofstruggle and loss and I was just
grateful that my experience was,it was a pause that I needed
(20:55):
that I would have never takenand I was able to dive so deep
into my practices, into my workwith Hanuman and really just
make this cocoon and allowmyself to turn into the mush and
your g.
be reborn.
And when things started openingup again, then I went to Peru
for the first time.
And so by that time I was, youknow, four and a half years,
(21:18):
five years into working with themedicine before I ever got into
Peru to experience it in thejungle.
That was beautiful.
And by this time too, I wasworking to facilitate in my
teacher's circle a lot and Icould feel my own medicine.
Being remembered and beingenlivened and I when I was in
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Peru Every plant that I workedwith whether I mean there were
several that I worked with invarious ways and every plant
told me You need to rely more onthe plants and less on the
people And it was a very clearmessage that I was putting too
much stock into the humans andnot enough into the plants.
And that began this unraveling,um, this like very humbling
(22:09):
experience of actually justgiving myself into the guidance
of the plants and allowing themto be my teachers again, with
the hardheadedness, I kind oflike, I, I.
Ended up leaving the teachersthat I was working with and it
felt like a little like itcaught me off guard But it was
one of those moments where I wasbeing forced out because I
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probably would have never leftyou know, and I needed to go on
to what was next and thatunleashed a whole New layer of
working directly with theindigenous and really connecting
in going four days into theAmazon to live in a village, you
know, and to learn from thepeople who have been doing this
(22:52):
for thousands of years and.
That was really an experiencethat, um, I think really just
catapulted me to this newiteration and, uh, the present
of what's happening.
Yeah.
Lindsey (23:08):
So tell me a little bit more about that, living in the
Amazon.
Tressa (23:13):
Yeah.
Um, it was one of anothersynchronicity where it was like,
there was no plan to go.
And then all of a sudden thebags were packed and we were
heading to the airport and itwas just boom, boom, boom.
This is what's happening.
And man, you know, it was sobeautifully intense the entire
experience to be with people wholive and breathe the jungle as
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their daily life.
And it was such a, Honored awitness life in a village and to
be included in all of theirexperiences and to be a part of
the village for the time that wewere there and, um, everything
from meals and music andceremony and hikes.
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And, you know, there's a plantmedicine called Sonanga, and
it's an eyedrop that reallyburns your eyes.
And, you know, It's intense.
However, we walked into thejungle with the men in their
headdresses and the children intheir feathers and we watched
him pull up the plant and scrapethe root and make the Sananga in
(24:23):
a giant leaf and then from thatleaf put it in our eyes like it
was receiving the medicine inthe way the medicines been given
for thousands of years and thatis an experience that to me is I
mean, unduplicatable.
It doesn't matter how long youtrain and spend in the jungle,
(24:44):
there is nothing like that.
And it was a very beautifulinitiation.
Lindsey (24:50):
And then from there, you're, so you're, it's like
you're on the, you're on yourown path, but you're also taking
your path and offering it toothers.
So how do you hold space foryourself and others?
You're, cause you're learning somuch.
(25:12):
I mean, you're going to thejungle, you're having all these
brand new experiences and then.
You bring it back for your owncircle at this point.
Is that right?
Yeah,
Tressa (25:23):
It is and so the way it's like It's like two pieces
because it is so important forme to continue to do my own work
and for me to make space To bein a space where I am not in
charge and where I am not isholding space or being expected
to do anything So that I cancontinue my own personal work
(25:44):
Uh, I do feel you know Maybe itwill happen sometime, but for
the most part, I don't everreally have my own personal
experiences when I'mfacilitating medicine circles.
I'm definitely making timeelsewhere to do that work.
And sometimes it's just me bymyself and sometimes it's me
going into the jungle for weeks.
You know, it just depends whatthere's space for.
(26:06):
But the medicine has made itvery clear too that like it is
my What's being asked is that Iam the bridge because not
everyone's going to travel forfour days to go into the jungle
and work with the Hooni Queenand I fully know that and So
what I can do is I can go tothese places.
(26:27):
I can go to these power places Ican visit temples and wisdom
keepers and indigenous leadersAnd then I can bring it back,
and I can do my best to get outof the way and become the
clearest vessel that I can be toshare this medicine with
everyone who wants to experienceit.
(26:47):
And, you know, I've, um, I feellike...
Some people who could probably,you know, we could all use the
medicine.
I think it's, what did they say?
The medicine is for everyone,but not everyone's for the
medicine.
So it was like that.
Um, but I want to bring it tothe people who don't feel called
(27:08):
to go to the jungle and whoaren't going to make those
pilgrimages and yeah, who justdon't have the capacity for
whatever reason.
Still.
Everyone should have themedicine if they want it.
And she would have never left,you know, all the medicines.
They would have never left thejungle if they didn't want to be
shared.
Lindsey (27:27):
Right, right.
Yeah.
So how do you work with people?
Like, how do you suggest oroffer that people use medicine,
whether plant medicine or...
any ancient wisdom, any healingwhen they want to make a
significant change in theirlife?
Tressa (27:46):
I think that's the key, what you just said, is like the
ancient wisdom.
And the ancient wisdom can comein so many technologies.
So yes, plants and animalmedicine is definitely One of
those categories.
Um, sound medicine would beanother one.
Devotional chanting, you know,all of these ancient practices
that have been done forthousands of years hold so much
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wisdom for us if we invite themin.
I think for people that I workwith, I invite them to come in
any way that they want to showup.
So, usually it starts withsound, because this is a
palatable way to make anintroduction to the work that I
do.
And so they come for sound, andyou could have...
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equally as powerful experiencesusing sound medicine or
devotional chanting as you canwith plant medicine.
And so it's really about likeSeeing if we can get quiet just
long enough to tune into thelittle whispers or the little
pings or the little pulls Why doI keep hearing about this book?
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Why does this keep coming up,you know and getting curious and
allowing that to lead some ofour motions and our decisions
and I always, I guess I alwaysinvite people, yeah, to start
with sound, um, sometimeschanting, and then see what that
opens and what, what they feelcalled to next.
Mm.
Lindsey (29:10):
So when, when you work with sound with people, just
tell, tell us a little bit moreabout that for people who aren't
familiar.
Tressa (29:19):
So I work with a type of sound that's called holographic
sound healing, and um, I knowyou do as well.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Um, And this is a technologythat is, it's been around for
thousands of years.
It derives from like ancientEgypt and the energies of some
of those, some of those ancientenergies there.
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And it really is about becominga clear vessel that will allow
for sound to come through andheal us.
Everything is vibration and, Wecan heal with the vibration.
We can heal physically.
We can heal energetically,emotionally, mentally and
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spiritually through throughsound vibration.
Um, so that is the sound that Iwork with.
And when
Lindsey (30:10):
people find you in this way, and they want to have like
a one to one sound session withyou, potentially, eventually,
they're just getting moreinterested in their own inner
audio.
Yeah,
Tressa (30:24):
it can be anything.
So it can be, um, we could beworking on something physical.
We could be working on a beliefsystem or a pattern or a habit
that you want to deconstruct.
Um, it could be really any focusthat someone wants to bring to
it can be addressed.
(30:45):
Certainly it's, Generallycalming, relaxing, and you know,
stress reducing, sure, but wecan actually very much tune in
and get very specific with thework that we
Lindsey (30:58):
do.
And then from there, do you seethat frequently or do you see
that there's a pattern that thenpeople open up to other types of
medicines and other types ofhealing?
Tressa (31:10):
Yeah, I would say, yeah, pretty much.
I usually start with soundbecause, uh, it is a good way to
meet me and to experience what Ioffer in a in an easy one hour
package, you know No commitment.
Just come check it out.
But yes, uh, it typically Tendsto then lead to other types of
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work, whether it's with combo,which is a frog medicine or with
plant medicines of varioustypes, not all hallucinogenic,
some very heart opening, somevery grounding, some very
protective, and so it's it'sstepping into Yeah, different
ways to plug in and it's cool tosee how that unravels.
(31:54):
Um, there's a woman in ourcircle I can think of who was
very feeling very drawn toworking with tobacco.
And so she came over for a fewhours and helped me process
tobacco from the way that Ipurchase it.
And we just sat outside anddeconstructed and took out the
stems and had these likebeautiful conversations while we
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were working with the tobaccomedicine.
And that in itself was a healingexperience.
Lindsey (32:21):
Yeah, that's so amazing.
And I just love, I can justpicture that happening.
And I know that your, like yourmedicine is that, that space for
people to have a person that.
That is that love you really arethat you embody that I that's
why I can just picture havingthat comfort like sitting there
(32:43):
on on the porch or whatever andI'm sure it was healing even
though you're just chatting ormaybe not.
But you know, you offer thespace for these.
Deeper healings to come throughfor someone.
Yeah,
Tressa (32:58):
and you know, I think a lot of it in the starting over.
There was a big starting overpoint when I left my teachers.
And, uh, I guess that was justlast year.
So it's been a little more thana year.
And what the starting over andthe space that was able to open
up when I When I did end upleaving was that it was that
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space of raw, unfiltered love,and I did experience that with
my former teachers sometimes,but I also experienced other
things that felt.
Competitive, or egoic, or notfrom love.
And I can feel in my heart andin my bones that I don't ever
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want to make anyone feel any wayother than love.
You know?
Uh.
And there's a softness that thatactually allows.
Do I get angry?
Sure.
Do I get sad and lonelysometimes?
You know, do I get frustratedwith my teenagers?
Absolutely.
And I also know that I am love.
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I am loved.
I am loving.
I am beloved.
And it's all okay.
Like, it's all part of it.
Let it all be in love.
You know?
Mm.
Lindsey (34:18):
Yes.
So, from that space, do youexperience working with people
who you feel might be taking themedicine too far?
Or, you know, do you everexperience that?
Because I, there can be alsothis real, um, bro culture
(34:39):
around plant medicine that'sreally emergent, emerging in the
last couple years.
And maybe it's always beenthere, but.
Do you ever experience workingwith people in a way where you
need to lead them on a differentpath or, or they need to figure
out a different path?
Tressa (34:57):
I mean, not honestly, not really.
I did probably experience someof that, like I mentioned, like
a bit of competitiveness, um, atother places on the, on my path
and right now, um, Where I'm atin the the container holding
space of it I is it like atrusting in the medicine and I
(35:18):
trust the medicine to guide meto know how much medicine to
share I don't I've never Ihaven't said no more But maybe
if that happens that I will knowand I will be clear enough to
know, you know I've definitelyseen some people push the edges
and a couple times, then maybethey get their butt handed to
them a little bit.
And then the next time they comeback a little humbler, you know,
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and like that, like trustingthat the medicine is going to
give them what they need toguide them.
And I think when the humans canget far enough out of the way to
hold a container of raw love,then the plants and the
medicines can.
Have the freedom to guide thepeople, you know, when I can get
myself out enough, yeah, thatit's all gonna work out,
Lindsey (36:05):
right?
Right.
Yeah.
And I guess that also, it's likethe right people are coming into
your circle.
And then the right people areleaving when it's time as much
as you can, like you saidearlier, put one foot in front
of the other and just trust andtrust.
It's like, The right people kindof flow in and out.
(36:28):
As needed for them and for youand for the circle.
Tressa (36:34):
Yeah.
And that, I mean, I've had oneexperience in a combo circle
where I told someone I couldn'twork with them anymore.
And the reason I did that isbecause she didn't trust me and
I could feel that.
And so then at that point, Itwas, there wasn't a lot I could
do to share the medicine in afull way and that you really
needed to find someone that youdid trust to work with a
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powerful medicine like combo andI love to see who shows up
because it is always the rightpeople and it is always people
either similarly going throughthe same type of energetic work
in the circle or people who aregoing through what I've just
experienced in my own work orpeople who are really seeking
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and answering the call.
Of, uh, of self love, which issome of the biggest medicine I
will, I will, I will serve up.
It's like, yeah.
And it's always the right peoplewho find me.
And it's always the people whoneed the medicine that I carry.
Lindsey (37:37):
Yeah, yeah, what I envision is because you
mentioned it's people comesometimes that are like
experiencing what you kind ofjust have been through.
It's like you're holding theflashlight in the cave.
You're just like a few stepsahead or maybe more than a few
steps ahead.
But like, so you've already seenthat what's back there and
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you're like, all right, this iswhere we go.
Yeah,
Tressa (38:02):
it is.
And it's very much of that asabove.
So below as within.
So without it is truly acollective effort in healing.
And we're all attracted to thecircle that we're sitting in
because that circle has healingfor us and we have healing for
the circle.
And so like creating a circle,It's a space where everyone has
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a part if they want it and whereeveryone belongs and where
everyone has a medicine to shareand yeah, it's like, it's like
when we can, um, enliven our owninner medicine, then we give
people permission to also dothat.
And it just trickles out.
Lindsey (38:43):
And then that reminds me of a lot of people, like
anyone could do, anyone couldexperience plant medicine on
their own.
You know, they have, they couldacquire whatever they wanted and
do it alone and there's nothingwrong with that.
But how potent community andlike sangha is that makes that.
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Like come out even more
Tressa (39:07):
Yeah, it's so true and it is really this Essence that
the circle heals the circle thatwe are the circle and the
circle's healing me and thecircle's healing you and the
circle's healing we it's all ofit and it's like such a joyous
place to play in and Actually, Iwill say too, that's one thing I
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really got to experience andlearn from the Hooni Queen was
just like the joyous experiencethat everybody belongs and this
is fun and we're having a goodtime and even when we're not,
that's okay because it belongsto and just Yeah, they just
really open up that to see anactual village have ceremony
(39:52):
with so many moving parts and somany people and even the
children, if they want to singand they want to dance, then
they are and they're given justas much space as the page.
And it's like this beautifuldance.
And that's how it should be, Ithink.
Lindsey (40:10):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Community is just, it is wherewe are actually going to heal.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So in line with, with that, howdo you, how do you offer, how do
you teach devotion in, insomeone's personal practice or
(40:31):
in community and how someone canuse a devotion practice to
transform their lives?
Tressa (40:41):
Yeah, I think devotional practices are so important, and
I think almost anything can be adevotional practice, right?
Um, It's the idea that, youknow, oh, it's, it's shifting
from the idea that we have to bedisciplined in our daily efforts
to be better than we arecurrently, right?
And releasing that control andflipping it into devotion and
(41:05):
allowing the practices, whateverthey might be, to be an act of
love, starting with oneself.
You know, I do my daily chantingto Hanuman, and so I'll get on a
call with a small group and wewill recite the Hanuman Chalisa
11 times.
And maybe some days I don't geton because I'm working or I have
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a client or something, and thenmaybe that trickles into an
extra day or two, and then I'mgoing to sleep late.
And then by the time I come backto the devotional practice, it's
like, Oh, I forgot how good thisfelt for me and how much I am
beaming because of this devotionthat I'm feeding to myself right
(41:49):
now.
So yes, my devotion is in homageto Hanuman and to the sangha
that I recite with, but it'salso devotion to me.
And I think sometimes we have ahard time even Considering that
we're worthy of our owndevotion.
Yeah.
Just like letting it be a giftto the self first, and then we
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can pour into the other cups.
Lindsey (42:16):
Mm hmm.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, we are, it's so easy toforget, but we are the
expression of what we'redevoting ourselves to.
Hanuman, the universe, God,love, whatever, it's, you're
that.
So, gotta turn, flip that mirrorand be devoted to ourselves.
And yet it's just so easy tothink it needs to be outward
(42:42):
first.
Uh huh.
Tressa (42:43):
Yeah.
Or that we have to do it.
Or that if I do this, then I'llget something or feel better.
Lindsey (42:51):
Like the good girl thing.
Yeah.
Which comes, which isindoctrinated in us in a lot, I
mean, from a lot of obviouslylike patriarchal.
Society and the way religionchanged, um, but yeah, so that
you, that can be ingrained whereit's like, be good and then get
the good thing after, yeah,instead of, I am good.
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And then good things.
And
Tressa (43:17):
so I'm going to give myself this good thing, because
I'm so good.
Lindsey (43:22):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And you really have a way ofjust showing that with a lot of
humbleness.
Thank you.
Yeah, you're so welcome.
Yeah,
Tressa (43:37):
I've been hearing this a lot this week.
There's a lot of people sharingreally intimate, beautiful
things with me this week aboutthe way that I am perceived, and
it's like watering my garden ina really wholesome and
nourishing way.
So thank you.
Lindsey (43:51):
Yeah, you're so welcome.
Tell us about, I know you justwent to Egypt for a holographic
sound retreat.
Can you tell us a little bitmore about that?
And what you experienced
Tressa (44:05):
there.
Yeah, I would love to.
Um, so it was my second trip toEgypt in just over six months.
And last year, my holographicsound teacher, his name's Dr.
Paul Hubbard.
Um, he invited me to co lead thetrip with him last year and it
went great.
And he invited me back this yearand we'll actually be going
(44:26):
again in December.
And so, um, Egypt is the mostmagical place, and there is so
much energy and so much love,actually.
Um, and just so much to be...
Connected into.
And so we take a 12 day trip toEgypt and we fly into Cairo and
(44:52):
spend some time there.
And then we fly to Aswan andspend some time there and then
we cruise the Nile and we juststop at all the temples and we
visit all the holy sites andtaking it up and then back to
Cairo and we finish in the greatpyramids and we actually do a
private entrance into the greatpyramids.
(45:12):
Um, Where we're able to do asound ceremony and the entire
trip is a spiritual pilgrimageand it is set up that way and
the Egyptologist and the tourmanager, they have been working
with Dr.
Paul for decades and they havejust created and curated the
(45:32):
most epic.
Yeah, spiritual pilgrimage.
And he told me the first timenobody comes back the same and
I'm like, yeah, of course It'sgonna be an awesome time, you
know, and it's like like
Lindsey (45:45):
spring break.
Yeah, no one comes back the samesure
Tressa (45:50):
And and what's I mean, it is just the most epic Uh, in
my experience, just likedownloads and upgrades and
releasing and receiving andyeah, it's both times have been
just really beautifulremembrances.
I, I can just, um, know thateveryone on our trip has been
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there in lifetimes before, andwe are all going to reconnect
and to be reminded and to beconnected to the love of.
Ancient Egypt and the Netaru andthe gods and the goddesses and.
And the present day people.
I mean, it is such a beautifulcountry and it is so everyone is
(46:34):
so kind and loving and happy tosee you.
And it's just a very beautiful,um, beautiful journey where we
get to do a lot of sound work aswell.
Lindsey (46:46):
I wanna do it so badly.
Tressa (46:49):
Maybe in December.
I know you'll be on
Lindsey (46:50):
one sooner or later.
Yeah, I know.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So what kind of magic happenedfor you there?
If you wanna share like, some,any, anything that is, feels
shareable.
Tressa (47:03):
Um, well, I'll share with you a really magical story,
which was actually from my firsttrip with Dr.
Paul.
But I, um, I have a crystal thatI keep on my altar and it's
always on my mason ceremony andit's a crystal I've turned in my
hand a thousand times and we dida private ceremony at the Isis
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temple and I had been taking itinto all the temples and in that
ceremony I just had a ping togive it to a woman on the trip
and just for the day and so Ihanded it to her after our sound
ceremony and I said, carry thisaround.
Do with it what you want, justbring it back to me when you're
done.
Day goes on, and then that nightwe're on the boat, we're...
(47:45):
You know, cruising down the Nileand she comes in dinner and she
hands it back to me.
Thank you.
I'm tumbling it in my hand.
Like I've done a thousand times.
And then on the face of one ofthe points, there was three
triangles etched in the crystalthat were not there before.
And the next stop we were goingwas to the great pyramids.
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And I mean, I can show you thecrystal, the triangles were not
there and then they were.
And it was just like, I don'tknow.
It's magic.
Lindsey (48:16):
It's magic.
I know.
That's what I was about to sayis like someone was going to
hear that and find a thousandreasons of how it could happen.
And it's just also magic is thereal thing.
Tressa (48:28):
Yeah, there's a place in Egypt.
It's called Abydos.
It's one of the temples.
And, um, it's, there's a Columnpillar off that you can see.
And on the pillar there's, uh,it's not even etched.
It's, they don't know what it isor how it got there, but it's a
flower of life symbol.
And it's, they found one inEgypt, one in China and one in
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Peru.
And they're all done in theexact same way.
And they're so precise that evenlike modern day technology
wouldn't be able to duplicatethem in the way that they are on
these rock faces.
And.
It, it, that is like the essenceof the magic of the place.
It is everywhere.
And I'm sure it is amazing to goto Egypt as a tourist and you're
(49:13):
going to get goodness regardlessof if you know what you're
getting into, but then to addthe layer of sound and medicine
and vibration, sound medicine, Ishould say, uh, and vibration.
Uh, it's like just really opensit up to a whole new level.
And it is.
amazing and wild and full ofmagic.
Lindsey (49:34):
Yeah, yeah.
So what do you say to people whoare interested in plant medicine
or sound medicine or magic ordevotion, all of these things,
but they're like, There's alittle fear or trepidation.
What do you say to people?
(49:54):
How do you shine that flashlighta few steps ahead?
Tressa (49:59):
Yeah, I think it is like such a practice of trust.
And so when people are curiousUh, if we can trust our
curiosity to be our ownflashlight, right?
And know that it is not like fornothing.
There's a reason that we'refeeling curious.
(50:19):
There's a reason we're startingto ponder possibility.
There's a reason that maybe theshoes we've loved for ten years
don't feel good anymore.
And just like really givingourselves permission to be
curious.
Like just starting there, whatwould it be like if I drank
cacao in the morning instead ofcoffee?
(50:39):
What would it be like if I tooka walk instead of watching the
news?
You know and just like Lettingit be simple and letting it be,
like, sweet and, yeah, I thinkcuriosity and trust.
Lindsey (50:55):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Curiosity instead of, or, or in,like, opposite of trying to
figure it out.
Yeah.
Which is common, can be commonfor people.
Like, oh, I need to know whatthis all means.
Tressa (51:14):
I think there can be an, uh, air and energy of like,
yeah, needing to fill, fill upall the spaces.
So I'm going to go watch all thedocumentaries I can find about
whatever it is I'm interestedin, or I'm going to read and
listen to the audio and hear allthe people and all the things
they have to say.
And it's like, well, whatactually would happen if I just
(51:36):
go get curious and have my ownexperience, whatever it may be.
Yeah, and we're such aconsumption and it's again, it's
not our fault it's so ingrainedand we can be born into it and
not even realize but like theconstant consumption of
information and food and liquidand All of it if we can just
(51:58):
back up just a step or two andlike give just a little space
for something else
Lindsey (52:04):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I always, like, teach or talkabout, like, the power of just a
1% shift and how you can,you'll, like, be in a completely
different place and it's, like,a scientific method that I,
like, teach from where if youflew from New York to L.
(52:25):
A.
but you shifted one degree,You'd end up in, like, San Diego
or something.
So, like, if you just, if wejust shift, like, one degree,
because obviously also the onedegree is going to lead to
another degree and anotherdegree, maybe.
It might not, but you're stillgoing to end up in a different
place.
Tressa (52:42):
It is, and it's like, uh, it just takes that first
little space to allow forsomething new to come in.
Yeah, yeah,
Lindsey (52:51):
yeah.
Tressa (52:52):
I think I would also tell people who are curious.
To like turn off the news andturn off his radio and don't
read the newspaper.
And even if they only, if it's,if that seems blasphemous, then
don't do it for a day.
And if that's okay, then try notdoing it for a couple of days.
And just like actually givingour own.
(53:13):
Thoughts, space to make theirown, you know, conclusions,
curiosities again, but yeah,that would be a big
recommendation I might make tosomeone
Lindsey (53:23):
interested.
Yeah, that's really good.
Yeah, like who am I withoutinformation coming, blasting at
me from all, all areas.
I know we're, like, getting intothe time where you probably need
to go.
I know he's getting antsy.
Okay, we end with, um, twoquestions.
Okay, so the first, the firstquestion is, what do you, what's
(53:48):
happening in your life rightnow, or is there anything in
your life right now that feelslike something new, or like
another starting over?
Or maybe it's even somethingthat is down a little bit, but
you can, like, kind of see itcoming.
Tressa (54:04):
I think for me right now, it is, uh, everything feels
so new, like image, like in aplace of expansion and yeah,
like letting every day be anopportunity to, like I started
with just be open to whatever iscoming my way.
And a lot of it, there's a lotof newness and a lot of just
(54:25):
like being really open towhatever it looks like.
Lindsey (54:29):
Hmm.
I love it.
So beautiful.
Yeah.
And then we always end with aquestion from Eli and Jack.
Can Eli ask the questionhimself?
Yeah.
Okay.
Will you go get him or you wantme to go get him?
I'll go get him.
Okay.
Yeah.
He wants to ask it himself thistime.
Tressa (54:46):
Cool.
Hello.
Hello.
Britt (54:50):
All right, buddy.
What's your question?
Tressa (54:54):
Why do strawberries have to be The red to be ripe.
Mmm.
Well, I'm not sure, but if I hadto guess, I would think that the
red is what makes them sweet andjuicy.
And that's how you know.
It's nature's way of letting usknow they're ready.
That's nice,
Britt (55:13):
yeah.
That probably makes animals wantto eat them, and that's good,
because that spreads the seeds.
Tressa (55:18):
Yeah, and it makes them easier to find.
Britt (55:21):
Nice.
Was that a good answer?
Is that a satisfactory answer?
Yes.
Tressa (55:25):
Thank you, Eli.
Thank you.
Britt (55:28):
Awesome.
Well, thank you so much forcoming
Tressa (55:30):
on.
Yeah.
Thank you for having me.
This was so much
Lindsey (55:32):
fun.
Yeah.
Thank you so much for doingthis, for sitting with us.
I want to make sure people knowhow to find you.
Probably
Tressa (55:41):
the best way is on Instagram and it's at Tress37.
T R E S 37.
Um, I've got some holographicsound trainings that will be
coming up in the fall andanother trip to Egypt in
December.
So, yeah, that'll all be outthere.
Lindsey (55:56):
Awesome, yeah.
Thank you so much.
Thank you for having me.
Yeah, a wealth of, of love.
Of self love, yeah.
Yay, thank you.
Thank you.
Hello and welcome to another episode of the Can We
Start Over podcast.
My
Lindsey (00:18):
name is Brit.
And my name is Lindsay.
Welcome, welcome.
We are glad you're here.
Today I just woke up feelinglike anything is possible.
Britt (00:27):
Me too.
Partially because I did ketamineyesterday.
Lindsey (00:33):
As a therapeutic treatment.
Right, yeah.
It
Britt (00:36):
didn't just go down to the local rave and get it out of
somebody's fanny pack.
Lindsey (00:41):
Yeah, man.
Then you'll end up in a k holein a port a potty and that's not
Britt (00:45):
good.
Yeah, I always wondered what khole meant until yesterday.
When I found out I don't knowbut is that like a bad thing as
a k hole a bad you can't moveYeah, I couldn't move Oh for a
while, huh?
But I mean I set my I was in mybed right safe I knew everything
was cool, had my littleheadphones on playing, you know,
(01:07):
nature music, weird ambientshit.
Uh, cause that's what it it'scalled Mindbloom, you should
look it up.
They don't sponsor us, but uh,it's pretty cool.
And I've only done yeah, notyet.
I've only done one treatment, soI can't completely vouch for it,
but uh, it was pretty cool.
Lindsey (01:21):
Yeah, it's definitely amazing that there's an option
for someone to do psychedelictreatment, and I know there's
like so much back and forthbetween, it's not plant
medicine, it's not this, but Imean, if it helps someone feel
better, then we should justutilize it.
Yeah, I'm trying it out.
Britt (01:37):
Yeah.
You know what I also do?
I eat, uh, like gas station foodsometimes, so.
I'm not too worried about it.
I can try ketamine a coupletimes.
Uh, with, you know, I, I swim inrivers that have run off from
cities.
I don't know.
I'm not gonna overthink it.
Yeah.
You know?
Lindsey (01:56):
Yeah.
Just do what you feel called todo.
Yeah.
Britt (01:58):
And I must say in the first, uh, like, right after it
was over, I was like, wow, thatwas fun.
But was I supposed to reallylearn something just now?
Am I, should I be crying?
Should it like, what, what'swrong with me?
Am I okay?
And yes, I was okay.
But the benefits I've noticed afew hours after into today.
And I'm feeling a lot better.
(02:19):
I'm very present right now,which I'm usually not very
present.
I have to try hard to bepresent.
I'm always thinking about thenext thing.
But since yesterday morning, I'mjust focusing on now.
And that feels awesome, becausethat was my intention going into
it.
Right.
I was also, because when yousaid intentions with stuff like
this...
You also know that the medicineis just going to show you what
it shows you, right?
(02:41):
So, you can have an intention,but it's an intention.
It may not be the first thingthat happens.
So, I didn't really think myintention would happen so
easily.
Yeah.
And maybe that's just a sideeffect or something that happens
when you do the ketaminetreatment.
But luckily, it's what I wantedto happen and
Lindsey (02:58):
it's happened.
Right, right.
And well, I think there'ssomething to be said for someone
who already has own awareness.
on multiple levels and, like,has practices.
I know that's such a big word,but, you know, if you're
creative and you're devoted tosomething and you have some kind
of, like, awareness practice,whatever it is, then whatever
(03:19):
the medicine is, even if it'snot a medicine, even if it's a
modality, can, like, Help in adeeper way.
Right?
Britt (03:27):
Well,
Lindsey (03:27):
I'm feeling pretty good about it.
Yeah.
Yeah, and definitely being inOjai is just feeling so good
I've been doing my course ACourse in Miracles Work and just
feeling it loving it.
It feels really good.
Like every day.
There's a little Magicalencounter or spark or something?
(03:47):
That's like, oh, yeah, this isright.
This is exactly right.
Yeah Yeah,
Britt (03:51):
you know what else happened today?
We went to get some coffee Andran into a person that we've had
on our list to have on thepodcast.
Lindsey (03:59):
Yeah, that we had no idea would be here at all, even
in the state.
Britt (04:03):
Right, exactly.
Had no clue.
Saw him at the coffee shop.
He was super nice and was like,I want to come on your podcast.
Yeah.
Wild, so look for that.
Lindsey (04:14):
Yeah, those are those little yellow arrows, as my
lovely friend says.
And also when the little yellowarrows there aren't there, man,
just like don't freak outbecause they're coming back.
Right.
It's just actually means you'resupposed to like sit under a
tree for a while.
Right.
If there's no arrow, don'tfucking go anywhere.
Just chill out.
Britt (04:34):
Sometimes that might mean get on some ketamine treatment.
I don't know.
Right, right.
Lindsey (04:38):
Yeah, do the thing that's gonna get you back to
like your, your truest self oryour whatever can be highest
self, but it doesn't need to behighest self.
You're
Britt (04:47):
yeah, you're fine.
You're doing it.
You're fine.
You're here.
Yeah.
You're still here.
You're good.
Lindsey (04:52):
All of this feels really in line with our episode
today, and I'm so excited forour interview with one of my
teachers, my friend.
Her name is Tressa Vasquez.
She's amazing.
We met about two years ago.
She is a mother of three.
She's a yoga teacher, aholographic sound facilitator,
(05:16):
and a sacred ceremonialist.
Her work is really heartcentered.
She shares with people in thisspace of awareness.
That really helps them movetoward a deeper connection and
really in the essence of avibration of unconditional love.
And she talks a lot about it inthe interview.
(05:36):
And I think that really justlike comes off of her being.
You know, I love learning fromher.
She was actually who trained mein holographic sound.
And she does, she holds spacefor people in such a grounded
and real way.
Like she's 1000% authentic,whether she's.
Serving sound medicine, trainingsound facilitators, or holding
(05:59):
space in sacred medicineceremonies, or if she's just
being your friend.
And you can find out more aboutTressa on her website,
mamapachamedicine.
com, or follow her on Instagramat Tress37.
These links are all available inthe show notes.
and you can connect her with herand you can connect with her
(06:21):
there to find out more ways towork with her.
She is co facilitating anincredible 12 day journey into
Egypt with Dr.
Paul Hubbert, who is the founderof the Institute for Holographic
Sound and Inner Balance, andthis Egypt journey of higher
consciousness and masteryhappens November 29th through
(06:44):
December 12th.
So it's two week journey intoEgypt that includes a private
grand sound ceremony in theGreat Pyramid, which sounds
amazing.
That is insane.
I want to do it.
I know I've been wanting to goon this journey for so long and
we will do it.
Yeah.
When the time is right.
And
Britt (07:02):
we've talked to people that have done it.
With her and oh my gosh, itsounds
Lindsey (07:06):
insane.
Dr.
Paul has been leading thesejourneys for several years and
yeah Everyone we know comes backdifferent and with an incredible
story to share You can learnmore about it at
holographicsound.
com And definitely if you'relooking for an amazing journey
to go on at the end of the yearThe one to Egypt is the one to
(07:29):
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All right, let's get into theepisode.
Let's do it.
Tressa (08:33):
I've been thinking about this, and I've all, I've loved
listening to y'all's podcastsince you've started putting it
out, and yeah, thinking aboutwhat is my starting over story,
and There's certainly been ahandful of big moments, um, and
experiences that lent themselvesto starting over, right?
And so I can think of likebecoming a mother and getting
(08:56):
divorced and leaving corporateAmerica, um, as like three of
the big ones.
And I guess for me, I connectmost to my most recent starting
over, which was Really just likea shift in how I spend my time
and generate income and show upand, you know, uh, it's been a
(09:18):
wild and fun and beautiful ride.
I think down to like themicrocosm of it.
It's like every day I'm open tostarting over.
So like trying to be present towhatever shows up and really
like releasing the control thatLike, I think the universe knows
(09:38):
more than me, and I'm open tosee what, what arrives for me.
Yeah, that's been a reallybeautiful practice, and it's
been amazing to get toexperience, uh, life in a new
way.
And I am continually in awe of,Of the experiences I get to have
because of that.
Lindsey (09:59):
That's so amazing.
So tell us what was it likebefore this most recent shift,
you
Tressa (10:05):
know, I think that um The shift came in two big
pieces.
One was maybe actually it's beenabout 10 years ago when I left
corporate america And I spent adecade in medical and
pharmaceutical Recruiting I waslike playing the part and, you
know, climbing the ladder andget in the office and all the
(10:25):
things and it served a beautifulpurpose and then at some point I
could feel I was done.
I went through a series ofpositions trying to find the
next home that never fit.
And then at one point, I gotfired.
Honestly, that's one thing Irealized in thinking about my
starting over journeys.
I'm a little hard headed.
(10:46):
And so sometimes I'm reallygetting forced to like, no, come
on, this is not what is you'redoing here.
So yeah, so I got fired.
And in that moment, I could feelit in my body.
And I wasn't even that good atlistening to my body then.
But I could feel I cannot.
Do this again.
Like I am done working inrecruiting and at the time I was
(11:09):
teaching yoga part time and Iwas living with a partner who
allowed me the space to try toteach yoga full time and to
really follow that path ofworking in wellness and I'm so
thankful for him and for thattime in my life and for having
that little cushion to explore.
(11:29):
And that was going well.
I was happy, but I wasdefinitely struggling.
And then I found plant medicine.
And that's like the real bigstarting over is, um, beginning
to work with plant medicine,which was about six and a half
years
Lindsey (11:44):
ago.
Now I want to hear where thatled you.
What do you do?
With plant medicine and how youact as a space holder for other
people's healing that
Tressa (11:56):
year.
I think maybe that was, yeah,about 10 or nine years ago.
And the two big pieces that Igained from that experience was,
um, meeting Hanuman, which ifyou do or don't know, I know,
you know, um, we share a deeplove for Hanuman.
He's the monkey God of, um, inthe Bhagavad Gita and all in the
Hindu mythology.
(12:16):
And he, yeah, love and devotionand his, um, spirit and his
essence.
Yeah.
Just opened up so much love anddevotion in my heart and.
I love to think about it whenthey say he does the mirrors of
our hearts, you know, so that wecan reflect that pure love
(12:37):
outward.
And, um, and then I met thiscouple who started talking about
ayahuasca and I don't know, theman, he talked about literally
pouring his purge on his head.
And it was a disgusting story.
And there was some part of methat was like, I have to do
this.
And it was baffling to me thatthat was my innate response.
(12:58):
I had heard about it plenty andwas always a hard no, and there
was something in his sharingthat lit a fire in me, and I
knew, I guess, in meeting bothof those energies at that
retreat, that they were bothgoing to be a predominant part
of my life.
I had no clue how, and what it'sturned into is, really sharing
(13:20):
my deepest medicine, which islove.
And it's like so cheesy, butit's so true.
And I think that the answer isalways love.
And the question is, how can Iget to love?
And.
When Rumi says, our task is notto seek for love, but all the
barriers we've built against it.
And so, like, that is the quest.
(13:41):
Where have I built barriersagainst love?
And that's how I hold space.
It's like an invitation foreveryone to find their own
vibration of love, to experiencelove, to know they are loved, to
share their love, and just to,like, give space for us all to
remember that, like, love is ourbirthright.
(14:04):
And that is all.
And I think that's where I comefrom when I hold space.
And that's where I come from inmy daily practices.
And that's where I try to comefrom in my parenting and in my
interactions with people.
It's like, uh, realizing it'sall the same.
It doesn't matter if we'resitting in ceremony together or
we're talking on this podcast orI'm driving my kids to school.
(14:27):
It's like all of it is equallyas sacred.
Lindsey (14:32):
I love it.
So beautiful.
So from that moment, is thatwhen you had this connection
with your, like, essence of.
Sharing this love, or how didthat build?
Tressa (14:45):
You know, it wasn't.
It was when I had my connection.
Yeah, experiencing this love forthe first time.
And then it just became thislike, moth to the flame.
I want to follow that feeling.
How can I be there more?
Simply because it felt good,right?
(15:06):
And in plant medicine, I knewI'd always be working with the
plants once I met them in thatway, but I had no, uh, idea what
that would actually mean andwhat would actually be asked of
me.
But it really was like a littlebit of this, like, babe in the
woods.
I was in awe of all the things Iwas experiencing, and it was
(15:26):
just one foot in front of theother, one foot in front of the
other.
And...
Eventually I was being asked tosupport in new ways and, you
know, it started by cleaning thebuckets and cooking in the
kitchen, you know, and then itstarted to grow in the ceremony
space and I could feel thisenergy inside of me being pulled
(15:47):
out and exposed and remembered.
And it's like, Oh, here we are,here we are.
And it's just, um, yeah, I thinkI do have this, uh, it can be
like a, it's a, it is annoyingto me actually, but I could feel
annoyance when I think of it,but this child like, uh, wonder
(16:09):
sometimes.
The purpose that it serves andwhat it is good for is that it
relaxes a lot of the grown upexpectations and kind of allows
me just to daydream or beoptimistic and like watch it
unfold instead of try andcontrol it.
Lindsey (16:27):
You know?
Yeah.
How did you begin to let go ofthose grown up expectations that
we, I know we all feel?
Tressa (16:38):
You know?
I think like there's been,again, periods of...
experiences that required that.
And so what comes into my heartwhen you asked me that it's
really like, uh, leaving mymarriage, right?
So I had built this life in thesuburbs with my three kids and
the house and the marriage and.
(16:59):
It was not good for me and theexpectations that were around
me.
I mean, when I decided to leavemy marriage, I feel like most
people were like, don't do that.
That's a big mistake.
You know?
And like, it's almost when it's,you get so uncomfortable that
(17:20):
the unknown seems lessuncomfortable than the current
experience.
And it is a scary place to be.
But sometimes that's what ittakes to release the grown up
expectations and say, I don'tfeel good in this.
example.
And it's hard because we put somuch expectations on ourselves,
(17:42):
on each other, on what it shouldbe like.
Yeah.
And it's scary not to try tolive up to those expectations.
Lindsey (17:50):
Right.
Yeah.
And there's, I think culturallywhere we are, there's such a
disconnect that maybe a lot ofpeople don't even know.
Yes.
Or we're so used to.
Feeling to things, feeling lessthan that.
We're just like, this is it.
This must this.
I think it's,
Tressa (18:10):
yeah, such a culturally ingrained that it's like the
fish doesn't know he is in theocean.
Mm-hmm.
And you know, I pray foreveryone that they can have some
glimpse of.
Flicker of light to think, Oh,maybe I want something else if
that's what they want, you know,and that's kind of how I
(18:32):
honestly I felt about my exhusband.
He wasn't happy either, but hewould have never left because it
was comfortable.
And that I think is so common.
Lindsey (18:43):
So then how do you get to?
Washing bucket or get fromwashing buckets or working in
the kitchen.
And also I guess I want to ask,where's this happening?
When do you end up going andtraveling to, I hope I'm going
to, did you go to Peru or?
Tressa (19:03):
Eventually I did go to Peru, but initially I, so it was
beautiful.
I Bhakti Fest and then.
Within a week of being home, achildhood friend of mine who I
love dearly called me up and shesaid, this is going to sound
crazy, but hear me out.
I was at paleo effects and Iheard a panel on shamanism and I
(19:25):
want to go try ayahuasca.
Will you come with me?
And I'm like, heck yes, ofcourse I will come with you.
And that even that alone was somind boggling to me that that
happened.
Thank you so much.
That it was like, this is such afull body.
Yes.
When I didn't really know what afull body.
Yes.
Was.
And so we went synchronicity.
Lindsey (19:49):
Yeah.
Tressa (19:49):
Yeah.
Huge.
She set it all up.
She, you know, all I did was getin the car and go with her and
we ended up sitting the firstnight.
She never sat again.
She didn't even finish thatretreat.
She just, that was enough forher.
It was so clear to me that herjob, and she is such a connector
in life in so many ways, her jobwas to deliver me to the
(20:11):
medicine because she's, I wouldtrust her and I would say yes to
her.
And yeah, so then I startedsitting with a group out of
Austin.
Um, and I did that for a coupleof years and then they moved to
Guatemala.
And I continued to work withthem in Guatemala.
And then I planned my first tripto Peru.
(20:32):
And by this time I was aboutthree to four years working with
the medicine.
And then COVID happened and Ididn't make it into my, my
planned trip.
And.
That was actually such abeautiful, I mean, I understand
so many people had a lot ofstruggle and loss and I was just
grateful that my experience was,it was a pause that I needed
(20:55):
that I would have never takenand I was able to dive so deep
into my practices, into my workwith Hanuman and really just
make this cocoon and allowmyself to turn into the mush and
your g.
be reborn.
And when things started openingup again, then I went to Peru
for the first time.
And so by that time I was, youknow, four and a half years,
(21:18):
five years into working with themedicine before I ever got into
Peru to experience it in thejungle.
That was beautiful.
And by this time too, I wasworking to facilitate in my
teacher's circle a lot and Icould feel my own medicine.
Being remembered and beingenlivened and I when I was in
(21:41):
Peru Every plant that I workedwith whether I mean there were
several that I worked with invarious ways and every plant
told me You need to rely more onthe plants and less on the
people And it was a very clearmessage that I was putting too
much stock into the humans andnot enough into the plants.
And that began this unraveling,um, this like very humbling
(22:09):
experience of actually justgiving myself into the guidance
of the plants and allowing themto be my teachers again, with
the hardheadedness, I kind oflike, I, I.
Ended up leaving the teachersthat I was working with and it
felt like a little like itcaught me off guard But it was
one of those moments where I wasbeing forced out because I
(22:30):
probably would have never leftyou know, and I needed to go on
to what was next and thatunleashed a whole New layer of
working directly with theindigenous and really connecting
in going four days into theAmazon to live in a village, you
know, and to learn from thepeople who have been doing this
(22:52):
for thousands of years and.
That was really an experiencethat, um, I think really just
catapulted me to this newiteration and, uh, the present
of what's happening.
Yeah.
Lindsey (23:08):
So tell me a little bit more about that, living in the
Amazon.
Tressa (23:13):
Yeah.
Um, it was one of anothersynchronicity where it was like,
there was no plan to go.
And then all of a sudden thebags were packed and we were
heading to the airport and itwas just boom, boom, boom.
This is what's happening.
And man, you know, it was sobeautifully intense the entire
experience to be with people wholive and breathe the jungle as
(23:38):
their daily life.
And it was such a, Honored awitness life in a village and to
be included in all of theirexperiences and to be a part of
the village for the time that wewere there and, um, everything
from meals and music andceremony and hikes.
(24:00):
And, you know, there's a plantmedicine called Sonanga, and
it's an eyedrop that reallyburns your eyes.
And, you know, It's intense.
However, we walked into thejungle with the men in their
headdresses and the children intheir feathers and we watched
him pull up the plant and scrapethe root and make the Sananga in
(24:23):
a giant leaf and then from thatleaf put it in our eyes like it
was receiving the medicine inthe way the medicines been given
for thousands of years and thatis an experience that to me is I
mean, unduplicatable.
It doesn't matter how long youtrain and spend in the jungle,
(24:44):
there is nothing like that.
And it was a very beautifulinitiation.
Lindsey (24:50):
And then from there, you're, so you're, it's like
you're on the, you're on yourown path, but you're also taking
your path and offering it toothers.
So how do you hold space foryourself and others?
You're, cause you're learning somuch.
(25:12):
I mean, you're going to thejungle, you're having all these
brand new experiences and then.
You bring it back for your owncircle at this point.
Is that right?
Yeah,
Tressa (25:23):
It is and so the way it's like It's like two pieces
because it is so important forme to continue to do my own work
and for me to make space To bein a space where I am not in
charge and where I am not isholding space or being expected
to do anything So that I cancontinue my own personal work
(25:44):
Uh, I do feel you know Maybe itwill happen sometime, but for
the most part, I don't everreally have my own personal
experiences when I'mfacilitating medicine circles.
I'm definitely making timeelsewhere to do that work.
And sometimes it's just me bymyself and sometimes it's me
going into the jungle for weeks.
You know, it just depends whatthere's space for.
(26:06):
But the medicine has made itvery clear too that like it is
my What's being asked is that Iam the bridge because not
everyone's going to travel forfour days to go into the jungle
and work with the Hooni Queenand I fully know that and So
what I can do is I can go tothese places.
(26:27):
I can go to these power places Ican visit temples and wisdom
keepers and indigenous leadersAnd then I can bring it back,
and I can do my best to get outof the way and become the
clearest vessel that I can be toshare this medicine with
everyone who wants to experienceit.
(26:47):
And, you know, I've, um, I feellike...
Some people who could probably,you know, we could all use the
medicine.
I think it's, what did they say?
The medicine is for everyone,but not everyone's for the
medicine.
So it was like that.
Um, but I want to bring it tothe people who don't feel called
(27:08):
to go to the jungle and whoaren't going to make those
pilgrimages and yeah, who justdon't have the capacity for
whatever reason.
Still.
Everyone should have themedicine if they want it.
And she would have never left,you know, all the medicines.
They would have never left thejungle if they didn't want to be
shared.
Lindsey (27:27):
Right, right.
Yeah.
So how do you work with people?
Like, how do you suggest oroffer that people use medicine,
whether plant medicine or...
any ancient wisdom, any healingwhen they want to make a
significant change in theirlife?
Tressa (27:46):
I think that's the key, what you just said, is like the
ancient wisdom.
And the ancient wisdom can comein so many technologies.
So yes, plants and animalmedicine is definitely One of
those categories.
Um, sound medicine would beanother one.
Devotional chanting, you know,all of these ancient practices
that have been done forthousands of years hold so much
(28:09):
wisdom for us if we invite themin.
I think for people that I workwith, I invite them to come in
any way that they want to showup.
So, usually it starts withsound, because this is a
palatable way to make anintroduction to the work that I
do.
And so they come for sound, andyou could have...
(28:30):
equally as powerful experiencesusing sound medicine or
devotional chanting as you canwith plant medicine.
And so it's really about likeSeeing if we can get quiet just
long enough to tune into thelittle whispers or the little
pings or the little pulls Why doI keep hearing about this book?
(28:50):
Why does this keep coming up,you know and getting curious and
allowing that to lead some ofour motions and our decisions
and I always, I guess I alwaysinvite people, yeah, to start
with sound, um, sometimeschanting, and then see what that
opens and what, what they feelcalled to next.
Mm.
Lindsey (29:10):
So when, when you work with sound with people, just
tell, tell us a little bit moreabout that for people who aren't
familiar.
Tressa (29:19):
So I work with a type of sound that's called holographic
sound healing, and um, I knowyou do as well.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Um, And this is a technologythat is, it's been around for
thousands of years.
It derives from like ancientEgypt and the energies of some
of those, some of those ancientenergies there.
(29:40):
And it really is about becominga clear vessel that will allow
for sound to come through andheal us.
Everything is vibration and, Wecan heal with the vibration.
We can heal physically.
We can heal energetically,emotionally, mentally and
(30:02):
spiritually through throughsound vibration.
Um, so that is the sound that Iwork with.
And when
Lindsey (30:10):
people find you in this way, and they want to have like
a one to one sound session withyou, potentially, eventually,
they're just getting moreinterested in their own inner
audio.
Yeah,
Tressa (30:24):
it can be anything.
So it can be, um, we could beworking on something physical.
We could be working on a beliefsystem or a pattern or a habit
that you want to deconstruct.
Um, it could be really any focusthat someone wants to bring to
it can be addressed.
(30:45):
Certainly it's, Generallycalming, relaxing, and you know,
stress reducing, sure, but wecan actually very much tune in
and get very specific with thework that we
Lindsey (30:58):
do.
And then from there, do you seethat frequently or do you see
that there's a pattern that thenpeople open up to other types of
medicines and other types ofhealing?
Tressa (31:10):
Yeah, I would say, yeah, pretty much.
I usually start with soundbecause, uh, it is a good way to
meet me and to experience what Ioffer in a in an easy one hour
package, you know No commitment.
Just come check it out.
But yes, uh, it typically Tendsto then lead to other types of
(31:33):
work, whether it's with combo,which is a frog medicine or with
plant medicines of varioustypes, not all hallucinogenic,
some very heart opening, somevery grounding, some very
protective, and so it's it'sstepping into Yeah, different
ways to plug in and it's cool tosee how that unravels.
(31:54):
Um, there's a woman in ourcircle I can think of who was
very feeling very drawn toworking with tobacco.
And so she came over for a fewhours and helped me process
tobacco from the way that Ipurchase it.
And we just sat outside anddeconstructed and took out the
stems and had these likebeautiful conversations while we
(32:14):
were working with the tobaccomedicine.
And that in itself was a healingexperience.
Lindsey (32:21):
Yeah, that's so amazing.
And I just love, I can justpicture that happening.
And I know that your, like yourmedicine is that, that space for
people to have a person that.
That is that love you really arethat you embody that I that's
why I can just picture havingthat comfort like sitting there
(32:43):
on on the porch or whatever andI'm sure it was healing even
though you're just chatting ormaybe not.
But you know, you offer thespace for these.
Deeper healings to come throughfor someone.
Yeah,
Tressa (32:58):
and you know, I think a lot of it in the starting over.
There was a big starting overpoint when I left my teachers.
And, uh, I guess that was justlast year.
So it's been a little more thana year.
And what the starting over andthe space that was able to open
up when I When I did end upleaving was that it was that
(33:21):
space of raw, unfiltered love,and I did experience that with
my former teachers sometimes,but I also experienced other
things that felt.
Competitive, or egoic, or notfrom love.
And I can feel in my heart andin my bones that I don't ever
(33:44):
want to make anyone feel any wayother than love.
You know?
Uh.
And there's a softness that thatactually allows.
Do I get angry?
Sure.
Do I get sad and lonelysometimes?
You know, do I get frustratedwith my teenagers?
Absolutely.
And I also know that I am love.
(34:08):
I am loved.
I am loving.
I am beloved.
And it's all okay.
Like, it's all part of it.
Let it all be in love.
You know?
Mm.
Lindsey (34:18):
Yes.
So, from that space, do youexperience working with people
who you feel might be taking themedicine too far?
Or, you know, do you everexperience that?
Because I, there can be alsothis real, um, bro culture
(34:39):
around plant medicine that'sreally emergent, emerging in the
last couple years.
And maybe it's always beenthere, but.
Do you ever experience workingwith people in a way where you
need to lead them on a differentpath or, or they need to figure
out a different path?
Tressa (34:57):
I mean, not honestly, not really.
I did probably experience someof that, like I mentioned, like
a bit of competitiveness, um, atother places on the, on my path
and right now, um, Where I'm atin the the container holding
space of it I is it like atrusting in the medicine and I
(35:18):
trust the medicine to guide meto know how much medicine to
share I don't I've never Ihaven't said no more But maybe
if that happens that I will knowand I will be clear enough to
know, you know I've definitelyseen some people push the edges
and a couple times, then maybethey get their butt handed to
them a little bit.
And then the next time they comeback a little humbler, you know,
(35:40):
and like that, like trustingthat the medicine is going to
give them what they need toguide them.
And I think when the humans canget far enough out of the way to
hold a container of raw love,then the plants and the
medicines can.
Have the freedom to guide thepeople, you know, when I can get
myself out enough, yeah, thatit's all gonna work out,
Lindsey (36:05):
right?
Right.
Yeah.
And I guess that also, it's likethe right people are coming into
your circle.
And then the right people areleaving when it's time as much
as you can, like you saidearlier, put one foot in front
of the other and just trust andtrust.
It's like, The right people kindof flow in and out.
(36:28):
As needed for them and for youand for the circle.
Tressa (36:34):
Yeah.
And that, I mean, I've had oneexperience in a combo circle
where I told someone I couldn'twork with them anymore.
And the reason I did that isbecause she didn't trust me and
I could feel that.
And so then at that point, Itwas, there wasn't a lot I could
do to share the medicine in afull way and that you really
needed to find someone that youdid trust to work with a
(36:56):
powerful medicine like combo andI love to see who shows up
because it is always the rightpeople and it is always people
either similarly going throughthe same type of energetic work
in the circle or people who aregoing through what I've just
experienced in my own work orpeople who are really seeking
(37:20):
and answering the call.
Of, uh, of self love, which issome of the biggest medicine I
will, I will, I will serve up.
It's like, yeah.
And it's always the right peoplewho find me.
And it's always the people whoneed the medicine that I carry.
Lindsey (37:37):
Yeah, yeah, what I envision is because you
mentioned it's people comesometimes that are like
experiencing what you kind ofjust have been through.
It's like you're holding theflashlight in the cave.
You're just like a few stepsahead or maybe more than a few
steps ahead.
But like, so you've already seenthat what's back there and
(37:58):
you're like, all right, this iswhere we go.
Yeah,
Tressa (38:02):
it is.
And it's very much of that asabove.
So below as within.
So without it is truly acollective effort in healing.
And we're all attracted to thecircle that we're sitting in
because that circle has healingfor us and we have healing for
the circle.
And so like creating a circle,It's a space where everyone has
(38:23):
a part if they want it and whereeveryone belongs and where
everyone has a medicine to shareand yeah, it's like, it's like
when we can, um, enliven our owninner medicine, then we give
people permission to also dothat.
And it just trickles out.
Lindsey (38:43):
And then that reminds me of a lot of people, like
anyone could do, anyone couldexperience plant medicine on
their own.
You know, they have, they couldacquire whatever they wanted and
do it alone and there's nothingwrong with that.
But how potent community andlike sangha is that makes that.
(39:04):
Like come out even more
Tressa (39:07):
Yeah, it's so true and it is really this Essence that
the circle heals the circle thatwe are the circle and the
circle's healing me and thecircle's healing you and the
circle's healing we it's all ofit and it's like such a joyous
place to play in and Actually, Iwill say too, that's one thing I
(39:28):
really got to experience andlearn from the Hooni Queen was
just like the joyous experiencethat everybody belongs and this
is fun and we're having a goodtime and even when we're not,
that's okay because it belongsto and just Yeah, they just
really open up that to see anactual village have ceremony
(39:52):
with so many moving parts and somany people and even the
children, if they want to singand they want to dance, then
they are and they're given justas much space as the page.
And it's like this beautifuldance.
And that's how it should be, Ithink.
Lindsey (40:10):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Community is just, it is wherewe are actually going to heal.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So in line with, with that, howdo you, how do you offer, how do
you teach devotion in, insomeone's personal practice or
(40:31):
in community and how someone canuse a devotion practice to
transform their lives?
Tressa (40:41):
Yeah, I think devotional practices are so important, and
I think almost anything can be adevotional practice, right?
Um, It's the idea that, youknow, oh, it's, it's shifting
from the idea that we have to bedisciplined in our daily efforts
to be better than we arecurrently, right?
And releasing that control andflipping it into devotion and
(41:05):
allowing the practices, whateverthey might be, to be an act of
love, starting with oneself.
You know, I do my daily chantingto Hanuman, and so I'll get on a
call with a small group and wewill recite the Hanuman Chalisa
11 times.
And maybe some days I don't geton because I'm working or I have
(41:28):
a client or something, and thenmaybe that trickles into an
extra day or two, and then I'mgoing to sleep late.
And then by the time I come backto the devotional practice, it's
like, Oh, I forgot how good thisfelt for me and how much I am
beaming because of this devotionthat I'm feeding to myself right
(41:49):
now.
So yes, my devotion is in homageto Hanuman and to the sangha
that I recite with, but it'salso devotion to me.
And I think sometimes we have ahard time even Considering that
we're worthy of our owndevotion.
Yeah.
Just like letting it be a giftto the self first, and then we
(42:13):
can pour into the other cups.
Lindsey (42:16):
Mm hmm.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, we are, it's so easy toforget, but we are the
expression of what we'redevoting ourselves to.
Hanuman, the universe, God,love, whatever, it's, you're
that.
So, gotta turn, flip that mirrorand be devoted to ourselves.
And yet it's just so easy tothink it needs to be outward
(42:42):
first.
Uh huh.
Tressa (42:43):
Yeah.
Or that we have to do it.
Or that if I do this, then I'llget something or feel better.
Lindsey (42:51):
Like the good girl thing.
Yeah.
Which comes, which isindoctrinated in us in a lot, I
mean, from a lot of obviouslylike patriarchal.
Society and the way religionchanged, um, but yeah, so that
you, that can be ingrained whereit's like, be good and then get
the good thing after, yeah,instead of, I am good.
(43:16):
And then good things.
And
Tressa (43:17):
so I'm going to give myself this good thing, because
I'm so good.
Lindsey (43:22):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And you really have a way ofjust showing that with a lot of
humbleness.
Thank you.
Yeah, you're so welcome.
Yeah,
Tressa (43:37):
I've been hearing this a lot this week.
There's a lot of people sharingreally intimate, beautiful
things with me this week aboutthe way that I am perceived, and
it's like watering my garden ina really wholesome and
nourishing way.
So thank you.
Lindsey (43:51):
Yeah, you're so welcome.
Tell us about, I know you justwent to Egypt for a holographic
sound retreat.
Can you tell us a little bitmore about that?
And what you experienced
Tressa (44:05):
there.
Yeah, I would love to.
Um, so it was my second trip toEgypt in just over six months.
And last year, my holographicsound teacher, his name's Dr.
Paul Hubbard.
Um, he invited me to co lead thetrip with him last year and it
went great.
And he invited me back this yearand we'll actually be going
(44:26):
again in December.
And so, um, Egypt is the mostmagical place, and there is so
much energy and so much love,actually.
Um, and just so much to be...
Connected into.
And so we take a 12 day trip toEgypt and we fly into Cairo and
(44:52):
spend some time there.
And then we fly to Aswan andspend some time there and then
we cruise the Nile and we juststop at all the temples and we
visit all the holy sites andtaking it up and then back to
Cairo and we finish in the greatpyramids and we actually do a
private entrance into the greatpyramids.
(45:12):
Um, Where we're able to do asound ceremony and the entire
trip is a spiritual pilgrimageand it is set up that way and
the Egyptologist and the tourmanager, they have been working
with Dr.
Paul for decades and they havejust created and curated the
(45:32):
most epic.
Yeah, spiritual pilgrimage.
And he told me the first timenobody comes back the same and
I'm like, yeah, of course It'sgonna be an awesome time, you
know, and it's like like
Lindsey (45:45):
spring break.
Yeah, no one comes back the samesure
Tressa (45:50):
And and what's I mean, it is just the most epic Uh, in
my experience, just likedownloads and upgrades and
releasing and receiving andyeah, it's both times have been
just really beautifulremembrances.
I, I can just, um, know thateveryone on our trip has been
(46:13):
there in lifetimes before, andwe are all going to reconnect
and to be reminded and to beconnected to the love of.
Ancient Egypt and the Netaru andthe gods and the goddesses and.
And the present day people.
I mean, it is such a beautifulcountry and it is so everyone is
(46:34):
so kind and loving and happy tosee you.
And it's just a very beautiful,um, beautiful journey where we
get to do a lot of sound work aswell.
Lindsey (46:46):
I wanna do it so badly.
Tressa (46:49):
Maybe in December.
I know you'll be on
Lindsey (46:50):
one sooner or later.
Yeah, I know.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So what kind of magic happenedfor you there?
If you wanna share like, some,any, anything that is, feels
shareable.
Tressa (47:03):
Um, well, I'll share with you a really magical story,
which was actually from my firsttrip with Dr.
Paul.
But I, um, I have a crystal thatI keep on my altar and it's
always on my mason ceremony andit's a crystal I've turned in my
hand a thousand times and we dida private ceremony at the Isis
(47:24):
temple and I had been taking itinto all the temples and in that
ceremony I just had a ping togive it to a woman on the trip
and just for the day and so Ihanded it to her after our sound
ceremony and I said, carry thisaround.
Do with it what you want, justbring it back to me when you're
done.
Day goes on, and then that nightwe're on the boat, we're...
(47:45):
You know, cruising down the Nileand she comes in dinner and she
hands it back to me.
Thank you.
I'm tumbling it in my hand.
Like I've done a thousand times.
And then on the face of one ofthe points, there was three
triangles etched in the crystalthat were not there before.
And the next stop we were goingwas to the great pyramids.
(48:05):
And I mean, I can show you thecrystal, the triangles were not
there and then they were.
And it was just like, I don'tknow.
It's magic.
Lindsey (48:16):
It's magic.
I know.
That's what I was about to sayis like someone was going to
hear that and find a thousandreasons of how it could happen.
And it's just also magic is thereal thing.
Tressa (48:28):
Yeah, there's a place in Egypt.
It's called Abydos.
It's one of the temples.
And, um, it's, there's a Columnpillar off that you can see.
And on the pillar there's, uh,it's not even etched.
It's, they don't know what it isor how it got there, but it's a
flower of life symbol.
And it's, they found one inEgypt, one in China and one in
(48:50):
Peru.
And they're all done in theexact same way.
And they're so precise that evenlike modern day technology
wouldn't be able to duplicatethem in the way that they are on
these rock faces.
And.
It, it, that is like the essenceof the magic of the place.
It is everywhere.
And I'm sure it is amazing to goto Egypt as a tourist and you're
(49:13):
going to get goodness regardlessof if you know what you're
getting into, but then to addthe layer of sound and medicine
and vibration, sound medicine, Ishould say, uh, and vibration.
Uh, it's like just really opensit up to a whole new level.
And it is.
amazing and wild and full ofmagic.
Lindsey (49:34):
Yeah, yeah.
So what do you say to people whoare interested in plant medicine
or sound medicine or magic ordevotion, all of these things,
but they're like, There's alittle fear or trepidation.
What do you say to people?
(49:54):
How do you shine that flashlighta few steps ahead?
Tressa (49:59):
Yeah, I think it is like such a practice of trust.
And so when people are curiousUh, if we can trust our
curiosity to be our ownflashlight, right?
And know that it is not like fornothing.
There's a reason that we'refeeling curious.
(50:19):
There's a reason we're startingto ponder possibility.
There's a reason that maybe theshoes we've loved for ten years
don't feel good anymore.
And just like really givingourselves permission to be
curious.
Like just starting there, whatwould it be like if I drank
cacao in the morning instead ofcoffee?
(50:39):
What would it be like if I tooka walk instead of watching the
news?
You know and just like Lettingit be simple and letting it be,
like, sweet and, yeah, I thinkcuriosity and trust.
Lindsey (50:55):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Curiosity instead of, or, or in,like, opposite of trying to
figure it out.
Yeah.
Which is common, can be commonfor people.
Like, oh, I need to know whatthis all means.
Tressa (51:14):
I think there can be an, uh, air and energy of like,
yeah, needing to fill, fill upall the spaces.
So I'm going to go watch all thedocumentaries I can find about
whatever it is I'm interestedin, or I'm going to read and
listen to the audio and hear allthe people and all the things
they have to say.
And it's like, well, whatactually would happen if I just
(51:36):
go get curious and have my ownexperience, whatever it may be.
Yeah, and we're such aconsumption and it's again, it's
not our fault it's so ingrainedand we can be born into it and
not even realize but like theconstant consumption of
information and food and liquidand All of it if we can just
(51:58):
back up just a step or two andlike give just a little space
for something else
Lindsey (52:04):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I always, like, teach or talkabout, like, the power of just a
1% shift and how you can,you'll, like, be in a completely
different place and it's, like,a scientific method that I,
like, teach from where if youflew from New York to L.
(52:25):
A.
but you shifted one degree,You'd end up in, like, San Diego
or something.
So, like, if you just, if wejust shift, like, one degree,
because obviously also the onedegree is going to lead to
another degree and anotherdegree, maybe.
It might not, but you're stillgoing to end up in a different
place.
Tressa (52:42):
It is, and it's like, uh, it just takes that first
little space to allow forsomething new to come in.
Yeah, yeah,
Lindsey (52:51):
yeah.
Tressa (52:52):
I think I would also tell people who are curious.
To like turn off the news andturn off his radio and don't
read the newspaper.
And even if they only, if it's,if that seems blasphemous, then
don't do it for a day.
And if that's okay, then try notdoing it for a couple of days.
And just like actually givingour own.
(53:13):
Thoughts, space to make theirown, you know, conclusions,
curiosities again, but yeah,that would be a big
recommendation I might make tosomeone
Lindsey (53:23):
interested.
Yeah, that's really good.
Yeah, like who am I withoutinformation coming, blasting at
me from all, all areas.
I know we're, like, getting intothe time where you probably need
to go.
I know he's getting antsy.
Okay, we end with, um, twoquestions.
Okay, so the first, the firstquestion is, what do you, what's
(53:48):
happening in your life rightnow, or is there anything in
your life right now that feelslike something new, or like
another starting over?
Or maybe it's even somethingthat is down a little bit, but
you can, like, kind of see itcoming.
Tressa (54:04):
I think for me right now, it is, uh, everything feels
so new, like image, like in aplace of expansion and yeah,
like letting every day be anopportunity to, like I started
with just be open to whatever iscoming my way.
And a lot of it, there's a lotof newness and a lot of just
(54:25):
like being really open towhatever it looks like.
Lindsey (54:29):
Hmm.
I love it.
So beautiful.
Yeah.
And then we always end with aquestion from Eli and Jack.
Can Eli ask the questionhimself?
Yeah.
Okay.
Will you go get him or you wantme to go get him?
I'll go get him.
Okay.
Yeah.
He wants to ask it himself thistime.
Tressa (54:46):
Cool.
Hello.
Hello.
Britt (54:50):
All right, buddy.
What's your question?
Tressa (54:54):
Why do strawberries have to be The red to be ripe.
Mmm.
Well, I'm not sure, but if I hadto guess, I would think that the
red is what makes them sweet andjuicy.
And that's how you know.
It's nature's way of letting usknow they're ready.
That's nice,
Britt (55:13):
yeah.
That probably makes animals wantto eat them, and that's good,
because that spreads the seeds.
Tressa (55:18):
Yeah, and it makes them easier to find.
Britt (55:21):
Nice.
Was that a good answer?
Is that a satisfactory answer?
Yes.
Tressa (55:25):
Thank you, Eli.
Thank you.
Britt (55:28):
Awesome.
Well, thank you so much forcoming
Tressa (55:30):
on.
Yeah.
Thank you for having me.
This was so much
Lindsey (55:32):
fun.
Yeah.
Thank you so much for doingthis, for sitting with us.
I want to make sure people knowhow to find you.
Probably
Tressa (55:41):
the best way is on Instagram and it's at Tress37.
T R E S 37.
Um, I've got some holographicsound trainings that will be
coming up in the fall andanother trip to Egypt in
December.
So, yeah, that'll all be outthere.
Lindsey (55:56):
Awesome, yeah.
Thank you so much.
Thank you for having me.
Yeah, a wealth of, of love.
Of self love, yeah.
Yay, thank you.
Thank you.
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