November 25, 2025 • 33 mins
Juicy citrus meets pepper snap. Orange Block Berry hits fast, bright, and happy, with a blood-orange flavor that sticks around while your cheeks and forehead warm up like sunrise. It’s solventless, clean, and way tastier than it has any right to be.
Form, look, smell
Live rosin batter processed with ice water, glossy light-gold batter with a soft, micro-whipped texture that scoops clean.
Nose opens with sweet orange zest and berry candy, backed by black-pepper spice. On inhale you get blood-orange and Earl Grey vibes, on exhale a peppery tickle that can spark a cough.
Terpenes
Limonene, the citrus driver, mood lift, bright focus.
Beta-caryophyllene, peppery grounding, body ease.
Myrcene, smooths edges and settles the body.
Humulene, light uplift, keeps things crisp.
Trace α-pinene possible from the profile and flavor, [Inference].
Cannabinoids
The jar listed total THC around 622 mg per gram, think low-to-mid 60 percent potency for this batch, CBD negligible.
Experience
Onset, fast. Head high blooms behind the eyes, wraps the temples, lifts mood without jitter. Feels sativa-leaning hybrid, caffeinated clarity with a calm undercurrent. Minimal cottonmouth, moderate pepper-spice cough from the caryophyllene.
Function, great daytime concentrate for focus, light pain relief, and creative flow, with mild munchies potential.
How we ran it
Per the session, this shined in an e-rig at controlled temps for flavor first, potency second, which kept the citrus terps intact.
Pair it with
Earl Grey or citrus-forward tea, the bergamot plays nice with the blood-orange terp profile.
Light snacks over sugar bombs to avoid chasing munchies, cold water helps if hunger spikes.
Bottom line
If your lane is bright, flavorful solventless that actually wakes you up, this batch of Orange Block Berry from Out of State is a ringer. Clean lift, real citrus, pepper pop, and legs long enough to carry you through a work block without frying you.
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Episode Transcript
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(00:08):
Welcome to Cannabis School. I'm your host, Jesse Angeles.
And I'm Brandon Elder. And we're here to talk to you
about everything pertaining to cannabis from vape flour,
edibles, strains, and everythingin between.
Welcome to another episode of Cannabis School.
(00:31):
Yeah, today we're checking out aa Utah strain.
It's actually called out of state.
Is the brand so. Better taste.
One, it's cold cured, full melt and this is a live rosin batter.
So let's see, this was so this is packaged and tested back in
April of this year. Oh nice.
(00:53):
I've really been impressed with the local concentrates.
We for a while we just frequented Dragonfly, not
because they are so kind to us every single month and have so
we we love them. Absolutely.
I don't think we have anything ever bad to say about them.
High tech, high quality. Them there was just a couple
(01:17):
strains here or there that haven't been our favorite.
Not that we've shit on them, butthey're there's someone else's
place for that strain. It's just not ours.
And and you know what I look at like cannabis strains, like
burritos, they're all good. It just maybe there's some that
you don't like, right? Yeah, they're all good, but
sometimes the person who makes some fucks it up.
(01:38):
Yep, totally. Yeah, dude, totally.
That one kid. Just like, Oh my God.
But smell this though. So this is Orange Block Berry,
and yeah, super excited it's a hybrid.
It smells like a sweet fart. Right a sweet.
I'm still feeling red velvet. Oh, I believe that.
(01:59):
Oh, that stuff is good. So this is a solventless one.
They used ice water to process it and top terp is limiting and
then karyophylline so or beta karyophylline.
So then it's got miracine and humaline as well in there.
So should be pretty solid. Pretty excited.
Yeah. Yeah, it is.
(02:20):
I I admit these concentrates outof state.
We tried another one. Not a big fan.
I don't remember the one you guys would have to go back and
find. Oh, the out of state brand one,
Yeah. I didn't like that one at all.
Which is the experience, the flavor, the dude, It's it's
which thing? It's random.
It was all of the above. The flavor was meh, The feeling
(02:42):
was kind of unsettling. And you know what?
That Turk profile, just there's something in me genetically that
it just doesn't vibe with. It's not necessarily it's bad
because there are people out there that'll be like, oh, well,
you know, Jack Herrera always makes me super anxious.
But then for me, I'm like, yeah,I could understand that
(03:03):
depending on where you get it from.
And the person, sometimes peopledon't do well with high sativa
or that type of dirt profile. And that's so beautiful.
I mean, we are talking with Doctor Dana.
We got to, we got to talk to that company.
Which company? She talked about that.
You could pop these pills and they'll get you.
Back Oh the yeah, the thing thatthey have, they have it in
pharmacies or head shops and stuff down in Arizona.
(03:25):
Yeah, we got to. We got to figure out how to be
able to get connected with them too.
Because that sounds amazing. That sound great.
I mean, wouldn't that be awesometo not only own, but to have on
you to help others? Because that's the worst when
somebody who's really new to it.Yeah, it's basically a product
if you weren't listening to thatepisode, that helps bring you
(03:47):
down from a high in matter of minutes, get you basically back
to a base level. So we will I edit that later
this next week. So I will make sure those are in
the show notes. We'll see about reaching out to
them, but today we are using ourconcentrate in our favorite E
rigs. Best.
I don't think we've ever been excited about an E rig as much
(04:09):
as we are about these guys. I know, which is crazy to say
because I still love Doctor Dabber.
They make great products, but like for for the price point
where no one is like or where they're going.
Hey, I don't want to spend $400.00 for the Doctor Dabber
switch, which is my favorite onefrom Doctor Dabber.
If you're not going for that, this is 100 and 6000 and $70.
(04:33):
And then you get our code and they're solid, dude.
And our code in the notes saves you on top of that.
So it's even cheaper than that. Well.
And I, I got to say, man, like in the cannabis world, it's
really hard for quality to maintain.
And we've seen a lot, We've tried a lot.
You mean you can go back and we have done a ton?
(04:54):
There's a battle of the E rigs episode years ago the.
Yeah, go back and look at that. A bunch of rigs sent out to us.
This is heating up, so I'm goingto give you first go on that.
Oh well. Thank you friend.
Oh. Yeah, and it got it all nice
and. Clean and sparkly spinning top.
I know I did too. So after you gave me that piece
and I swapped it out, it's just been all that's on there, but I
(05:17):
still have the other one. Nice.
What's really good about this? Oh.
Tastes like it smells. Oh, it's like a blood orange.
Yeah. That's a really rich, deep
flavor of a blood orange. What's great about it, though,
that after having it with that tea has really I'm I'm just
(05:38):
having some I'm just having someOh, gripe tea and and 678 9/10.
The power of Christ can tell you.
Whoa, there's got to be a lot ofbeta careful in this.
Yeah, that's the second terp Limonene's the first beta
(05:58):
carefully. Is the 2nd 12 milligrams of the
limonene and 1.5 beta carefully?You know what we need to do.
We need to get our I I remember you can be a canisor, like a, a
certified canisor. We got to figure out how to do
that. We got to figure out a school.
We just need to make a program for that.
We have cannabis school. Dude.
(06:20):
I feel this right in my cheeks, straight to my face.
Yeah, it's a very happy strain right away.
Like right to the front of my head.
Right here, like it's like a like where our headphones are
kind of feels like it just kind of shapes around the face.
It's really nice. Just the head top of the cheeks,
no cottonmouth at all. It is a very peppery string,
(06:43):
though. Be forewarned, you will cough.
It's it's still sitting back there, but it's like black
pepper, not hot pepper. I do like that it woke me up
from the red velvet. Yeah, oh dude, this one is a
this is a hybrid sativa leaning for sure with a lemon in there.
(07:04):
Definitely tells you that lemonade is great too, keeps
down the anxiety. But the beta carophiline, that's
actually kind of a odd way because you could be used as
more of a as like on the go painstrain.
But then the the next terp is miracine, granted it's like 4kg
instead of 12 and 14, but then humaline is like 4 milligrams as
(07:26):
well. That's so that's balancing and
that's the, it's a great hybrid balance.
Yeah, I that's amazing hybrid balance because you think about
that, especially that humiline, that's that uplifting feeling
happiness. The lemonine is the calming and
the just kind of relaxed, but but the humiline that just kind
(07:46):
of adds on top of it very caffeinated.
The room in the it's very illuminating too.
Has it got brighter in here? No, I mean not lights wise but
it no. Like your sight?
It got more illuminating after that first.
Well dude and our and our attitude already fast acting.
Yeah, it's more Dang again. So this is my least favorite
(08:08):
thing about yeah. And we had quite a few comments
that was. Cool.
Well, about the coloration and stuff.
Due to something in the grower, the nutrients and I thought
about that. The nutrients definitely and not
necessarily that it's bad, it's just the way it looks because
the ones that we typically get that are our legacy that I love
(08:31):
the look. I I like looking in after I've
had a sesh and it just looks like honey.
That's. I got super boof flavors for a
moment. Super boof.
Really super boofs. Yeah, it tasted almost like
super Boof that was. Weird.
That was the one thing I was kind of confused about when Bo
was over here. He's like, yeah, we got super
boof sativa and I'm like, really?
(08:51):
I'll. Be curious to see there could
just be the turf profile that came out of it.
That's weird. Oh, and it's like, right, right
on it. Yeah, that's straight back to
the face, like even more. Oh man, that blood orange
flavor. Is delicious.
It's been wow, yeah, I am quite pleasantly surprised with this.
(09:14):
And it's right behind my eyes too now.
Not heavy but like I feel it a little bit behind my eyes.
I turned it down. Now turn it on and then let it.
No, it's still at 4:25. Oh, they are.
Yeah. Well, the light went off.
Oh, sometimes if this gets twisted the wrong way, it.
Shuts it off. Let's.
Or disconnects, so it doesn't. Weird, I haven't had that.
(09:37):
I do not have the small one, which I miss.
That is my favorite. It is by far the best.
I love that one and you know, it's like something now where I
honestly, it's like, you know, my favorite vaporizers come from
Storson Bickel because it they are the best.
I've dude, I have treated this thing like a Honda.
(09:59):
Let me tell you that right now, I have treated this not very
well right now. Look at that shit.
It's all caked. I don't even know how smoke gets
through it. But guess what?
I get like a full sesh every time.
I remember I sat there and you know how I do it, I'll I'll go
up a button just to keep it rolling, which my battery goes.
(10:22):
But I'm like fuck, I do that with my phone.
I'll just hook it up. So after a sesh, I'll just hook
it up and leave it over there. I'm like, yeah, but we've had
this for over 2 years. Oh yeah, we had that one, went
to Vegas. We we've had this for a long ass
time. Still rocking?
Oh, great device. And if you want to code for your
stores and pickle, go check the show notes.
(10:43):
We've got that for the bomb rigsfor the.
Our stores and pickle. I mean, love both of those.
They're me. One the flavor profile from this
train, out of state, out of state.
I'm going to say right now, thisis my favorite concentrate of
2025 that I've had in from the steak.
It is the best. I love it.
(11:07):
It is it is truly the best. And the reason why I'm saying
that is 1 Your flavor profile isfucking off the charts.
It's still in my it is so good. Like I could imagine, like one
thing would be really awesome todo is like have just some not
super sweet fruits with this. Just eat that because it's a it
(11:27):
it, it can be a munchy strain. Yeah, I could see that.
I could definitely get. Oh yeah.
I could eat, yeah, I could eat, you know, 'cause I'm just like.
Dude, back to our episode with Tim Pickett years and years ago.
I think the first one we did there was a recommendation that
he said when you feel like you're munchy, that's to drink.
(11:49):
Ice water. So if you are feeling munchy on
some orange BlackBerry, go aheadand drink some ice water.
See if that helps. I think that I I need to do
Sometimes I worry about that. I'm I pulled myself off a
Manjaro mainly was to get my blood sugars down, but I've kept
my weight down. I've gone since I stopped.
(12:10):
This is this is really funny. Since I stopped using
testosterone, yeah, my weight's gone up.
Wow, interesting. Yeah, by 10 lbs.
Weird. I was getting pretty ripped so
it leaned you out. Yeah.
And the way that I, my diets arelike in the morning it's high
protein, in the afternoon it's protein and carbs.
(12:34):
And then at home I eat pretty much whatever my wife has made
for dinner, which is usually a mix of, of higher carbs, some
protein. So it's like, it's totally fine.
But I the thing that sucks is when I have a strain that's
super munchy. This one I could eat, but not a
lot. And that's one of the great
things that I've learned is I'vethe Manjaro helped train my body
(12:57):
to go. You don't need to eat all the
time. And I eat only when I'm stressed
or if I'm I just, I just need tofeel.
Yeah, I'm, I'm just trying to give myself dopamine pretty
much. And you know, the 1st place is
my mouth, right? And not that big bird.
How dare you? First thing you want you to do
(13:19):
is put it in his mouth. If you say so.
Happy birthday. I'm just doing this because you
asked me too. I.
I only doing this because I would take it all.
I'm just doing what you want. Yeah, that's all it.
But fuck, I forgot what I was talking about.
Anyways, this is awesome. Really.
I if you are in Utah or if you're somewhere else, it is a
(13:42):
very good strain. Very good.
Oh my gosh, You know what? I don't get really excited about
a 1G. I mean, I'm going to say this
like you're looking anywhere from like if it's on sale, which
is rare, but if it's on sale. Right now, fuck, it's $85 per
gram. $85 gram, but I, I will say this for year more just
(14:08):
getting into the space and I normally wouldn't say this not
just because of what I'm experiencing right now, but what
I've been thinking about lately Brandon and I wanted to get your
opinion on this. With dabs, I feel it is far more
effective in the medicinal way to make sure that if one you're
(14:28):
using it for focus alert and work oriented, I would
recommend, you know, just makingsure that you're in a space
where you're you can be safe in a way you if you know what I
mean. And then the other side is if
you've dealing with pain all day, I think the dabs are by far
(14:50):
better than a vape pen. And I don't think that during
where you're around a lot of people, it's a little bit more
difficult flame to flower. I have been doing a new routine
where I only do flame to or If Ido flame to flower I mostly
vaporize is unless it's a joint I'll smoke a joint.
Yeah, I love joints too. But you know what I mean?
(15:10):
Like I mean what? What are your thoughts?
So whatever audience members, Reema, she has been messaging
about concentrates recently, that was cool about that.
I believe it was Reema. Sorry, there's been a lot of
emails recently and I. Yeah, a lot of interaction guys
is. Awesome, love you all.
It's been amazing. I love hearing your stories and
(15:31):
connecting. So but the concentrates they
were getting more into concentrates and trying to see
like if that's better than you know, necessarily a pot like a
pen. And my argument is I have never
seen, I take that back, 99% of the concentrates that I've seen
are not the same consistency of product as what is ever in a
(15:55):
cart ever. So there's some sort of
distillation, some sort of manipulation to that product to
get it to that form or they justdon't whip it as much.
Whatever it is, there's something that I've noticed that
I get better flavors and experiences from a concentrate
and with most pens I don't get the control of the temperature
(16:17):
the same way as I do. With this meaning I can control
my experience way more with not just the level of high, but
almost the terpenes that are burnt off because of the
temperature that I'm going at. So.
I can have a different, much better, more nuanced experience
with a dab rig. And for me, yes, like this gram
(16:43):
was expensive, but like most of other grams, like I found other
ways that not all of them are that price.
Right. And so for me, it's a much
better use for longevity. I can hit the level I need to
for my pain and that will last for way more a lot more hours
than a pen would. Oh my gosh, but you met.
(17:04):
I mean, and and with all that, Iwas just thinking about how my
body feels right now. I feel I have.
It's getting colder so we feel more of the aches and my knee
doesn't hurt right now but I'm so awake.
Yeah, I have less sharpness in my back at this moment.
(17:24):
It's kind of it is probably, I mean, that's why I'm saying like
out of all concentrates right now, I can, I can because I have
consumed a lot of concentrates as of late and it's been a
great, it's been a it's, it's been very illuminating.
I think about new cannabis consumers, if they're going to
smoke, this is going to be 1 theeasiest on them to the the
(17:48):
safest 'cause you're controllingthe dose.
And the temperature and everything way more than and The
thing is sometimes it's hard to take a small hit on a pen
because maybe that pen is clogged.
Maybe you're new to it on this. You can pull and just see it
fill up this. You don't have to pull hard.
You pull for a second and then you see in here and go, OK,
(18:10):
well, I just want the tiniest sip.
So then you sip on that. Yeah.
And you have to take the rest ofit.
Well, and, and that's why the bomb rigs are, are amazing.
Super. I just love what they've done
with it. I mean, it doesn't matter the
color, it's, you know, the quality that you're getting with
it. I I told you like I am not
(18:31):
always great at cleaning these things and I cleaned it out and
I swear I was getting resin candy like it was so like it
came out in large, thick, sharp pieces and I was just like, that
sounds and you know, it was so, I mean, it literally took me no
time. And it works great.
Dude, I've run this thing dirty.What I usually would say is if
(18:54):
this doesn't spin very well, it's time to clean.
Oh, OK, that's. It right, the little knob thing,
it's deceiving 'cause when it warms up, it moves.
Yeah, but like this, Nope. It you know when it's done
because it's like, and I'm like,oh, it's time to clean.
That's why I love it. This is my favorite top.
I clean mine pretty regularly, but then it was, it's usually
(19:16):
the glass that I'm like, I should tear this apart and clean
everything. Yeah.
And so then I do, but usually it's not too long between it,
but I still don't. Like, oh, it's.
Not everyday. But it's the favorite.
Except for the bowl, I'm every two to three dabs.
I'm usually cleaning out the ball.
Well, and I don't like the the rigs with the older atomizers.
(19:41):
I think they're atomizers like the the dab dab tech.
Yeah, Wes had reached out to me.I gave him one of those a while
ago and I said hey, he he reached out and he goes, hey, do
you know where I can get one of these?
These these bangers for it. And I'm like, yeah, and I looked
them up, they're like 7080 bucks.
And I'm like. That's crazy.
And I'm like, no, dude, that is yeah.
(20:02):
Like, I mean, yeah, you get. He doesn't clean his either
super well. No, no, no, no, no.
But I mean at At the same time though, it's like.
Man. So here's my question to
everyone at home. How often do you clean your rig?
Is it really dirty? Is it like, I guess, are you?
Are you Jesse? Are you Brandon?
(20:22):
Are you? Messy, Jesse.
Are you like really bad that youwould never clean it at all?
Or are you? You clean it after every single
use and it's meticulous and spotless.
I, I, I will say like I've got aroutine where I, I use a little
bit of water and I and like a cap of water and I dip AQ tip in
there when I'm done And then while it's warm, yeah.
(20:45):
And it, it cleans it real good because then I see the Q-tip and
it's black. Yeah.
It's soaked up everything. I even the ring has gotten less
because I do it when it's hot. Yeah.
And so I'm just like, yeah, I keep it.
It's the base. But that's what I love about
this dude. Any other rig that I've used,
when the base gets bad, it's bad.
(21:06):
And it's a paint. This is pretty easy to clean.
Super easy. I was impressed.
Yeah, clip. And I dropped that whole thing
in ISO, right? Just not.
AI just shred. I pull it apart, it's awesome.
And then heat up your water really hot when you rinse it out
so that it gets rid of all the extra concentrate in there.
Yeah. But the to go back to like why
now because we've been consumingso much concentrates as of late.
(21:30):
Thank you, Frank. Thank you, Bijan.
We now are seeing this where we really want people of all levels
of cannabis consumption to be considering concentrates on one,
on the on the side where it's it's, it's not carcinogens that
you're worried about. Yeah, you're getting that into
(21:51):
there. But your body will absorb it.
It's the way you can be able to consume just such as like with
the bomb rigs absolutely recommended because of their
discreteness and they're very well built.
But the, the the experiences that you could get on that one
at a very, very, very micro level is not as easy to do with
(22:11):
pens. And the reason why I say that is
because the pen is going to heatup to a baseline level of what
it's going to be able to activate it, but the consumer
can just keep pulling and what one or two or three poles before
it gets you there. Now it's 5 or 6 and then you hit
a ceiling. Now you're consuming more and
(22:33):
you're not doing it. And and half of it is going to
change the molecular structure of it, which changes the
experience by the end of your pen.
That's why it's all dark. That's what I was actually
thinking too, was it actually doesn't really matter what pen
you use because any pen you use will continuously heat up and
(22:54):
cool down that concentration. Which changes it.
The molecular structure of your cannabinoids that are in there.
So from the start to the end it wouldn't even be the same
experience. And it normally isn't now you
notice at the end it's more CBN feeling.
And straight technology, you're like tastes like circuit board
over here. Ever since Bijan said that, he's
(23:15):
like, he's like pretty much yourfree basic.
Circuit boards or something ideait's.
It's so funny, dude. It's.
So that that's the one of the better things with this is you
only are pulling out what you need.
So then the rest right, stays atthat same consistency, that
same, you know, terp profile, cannabinoid profile.
(23:36):
And the other good thing I was thinking about it, I when I used
to work in an office all the time and I would take a pen with
me. The pens then I could twist off
the top and I would take out a little toothpick, dab that in my
coffee and stir it around and have a drinkable.
You can do that with this. You can't do that with most of
the pens. Now you can get like, I mean, I
love that idea too, because it'sa toothpick size and and that's
(24:00):
where you really need to be thinking about is that the you
don't need a big amount to get to where you need.
If you're new to it, if you're still doing your, your moderate
with it, like like I would say I'm more moderate.
I would. I'm a moderate to heavy user,
more so now a moderate user. You're going to get a lot of
(24:20):
mileage out of it. Like one of these you're going
to get a month, maybe longer. Because this is like 1G cart.
So if you're doing that, but youhave better and The thing is.
You're going to get all of it. You don't get the same hand to
mouth oral fixation or habit that comes from it from a pen
because. Definitely don't want to walk
around in your. Pocket or whatever.
Like it's just not the same. Now there are those people that
(24:43):
are like, look, what if I'm at work and I'm, I'm consuming and
I, I kind of need, you know, constant stimulation because,
well, that's just where I'm at with cannabis.
And I understand it. Whatever your relationship is,
is where your relationship. I still think that is the better
way to. Go.
I do. I think the second side would be
something like the the honey honey stick phantom.
(25:05):
OK. Or even like the little honey
Badgers that you can, you literally just touch the
concentrate to the tip of it. That's what I was.
Thinking in the bucket too. I think that's even better.
And the only reason why I was going to be the caveat on the
other one is that they're coils and the coils they change it you
you're going to have to go really low town.
(25:27):
So you're saying you didn't likethe puff Co pivot?
Would the puff Co pivot have a place in that moment I.
With you saying what, what? Well, and just thinking about
the honey stick, the honey stickhas its place, but after
thinking about it my experience with the pivot, I think that
Nerith is right. It is the best small micro
(25:48):
concentrate delivery mechanism that they it's very, it's like a
tooth. It's like a size of like a
chapstick, OK, It's very small, very discreet.
I love it. And it was cool because when
Nerath and I met up for I I had a non alcoholic beer and it was
very delicious. It was a Heineken and I was
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like, damn, I want that again. I I, I don't want the alcohol.
I just love the flavor. Yeah, probably because it's
really close to smelling like cannabis anyways.
That's funny. Because it's skunky, Yeah.
Which, if you know about that hops, is in the cannabis family.
Yeah, well, there's the terpenesthat come from hops that are in,
you know, the same. Yeah, it's so cool.
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They look same too, right? Almost.
Yeah, often times when it's processed or in certain forms
like yeah, see it. It's so cool.
It's so cool. Yeah.
But the pivot I think is something that would be
recommended for anybody to get, especially if you're new to it,
because you can temperature control it.
It's it's simplistic, it's discrete.
But do you have to say? Temperature control on a puff.
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No, I think it's doesn't too. Oh OK, but in an app you can
fully temperature control usually.
Yeah, totally. So that wouldn't be bad because
even if you have to go through the web-based app.
But that's what you get, like the smaller you go, the less
control you get. And that's why for for your
money, this is it. This is it because the quality
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of product you're getting. It's just not quite as discreet
if you're chilling in your car at work trying to do it.
Like it's, it's a pretty bit, yeah, but it's small.
It's tiny. But like if you're the pivot is
more discreet than this. Well, you think about it.
I mean, like, what if you had during your day?
And that's why concentrates are so great, especially in these
little jars. They're airtight.
They're not going to be there. But I love your idea, Brandon.
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You're there at work. Most people are going to drink
coffee or tea throughout the day.
Maybe they're doing an energy drink.
I would recommend doing like even a tea and then being able
to do that with the toothpick. You just go like that, put it in
your coffee. Now you're able to use cannabis
while you're at work. And it has to be hot enough to
activate it. So make sure it's just hot or or
if you want, what you can do is you don't want to pre activate
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it and then put it in Yeah, just.
No, just. I mean, that's simple.
Hot, hot coffee. Put it in there or tea or
something. And yeah, stir just a tiny bit.
That's why I would recommend like Earl Grey tea because it's
got such a flowery, fragrant type thing.
And then when you stir that in there, the hotter it is.
You just going to mostly smell that.
And even if you're going to smell cannabis, somebody be
like, oh, it's my balm. I've never, I never had anyone
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notice it wasn't that. I don't.
Know, but I I didn't even think about that until you'd said that
I was just like, dude, that is right.
You could do that like. That's why.
Or make edibles like there's so many other options with just a
concentrate that you can't necessarily do with a a pen.
Oh yeah, if you wanted to make abunch of gummies, 'cause you're
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a gummy person, you're just like, I just need gummies 'cause
I don't like, I don't want to smoke it.
Getting that would make a shit load of gummies for the rest of
your month. As long as you're not like a
confrete, you know, did not mom,mom, mom.
And then I get it. We've all hit that point, you
know, and, and Brandon used to have to do that until he started
using the moxies. Yeah, well, I've been out of
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those for SO. Long Yeah, we need, yeah, we
need to get more. So like this?
Whole this bucket 622 milligramsof THC.
That's a lot of THC. So if you figured out whatever
your dose was for edibles. Could you imagine split?
That up between there. If your sweet spots like 5.
Oh yeah, you 5 to 10. You would if you had five to 10.
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That would be insane. You would go.
Forever. Your dabbing shouldn't be with a
hot knife. It should be with a toothpick.
Yeah, I just thought of that, like when you started saying I'm
like, I should be using a toothpick for micro doses.
Yeah, Yeah. I mean, dude.
And seriously, how far would it go?
You keep it? Well, Brandon always talks about
keeping it in a cool place. He always keeps his.
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Minor in my fridge. Yeah, always in his fridge.
I need to fix my little fridge. It had a little fuse thing go on
the back, but I truly that's where I store my like that
cannabis like in that form because it keeps it longer.
But even if you keep it out somewhere else, just keep it in
the cool. Dark the the shelf life and
that's the thing like you reallyhave to be considerate of the
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temperature because I've seen when cannabis gets into high
70s, low 80s. It changes everything about it.
It's melted, it's like butter, and you don't want to alter your
like the. No, I had that happen with
Durbin Poison and I left it out in my because that was my area.
My my garage is my smoke area and it was out there and it got
(30:30):
hot as balls. Yeah.
And it totally changed. I it went from a very peppy
strain to extremely tired. And it's like, oh, it turned
into CBN. Yeah, because it probably baked
it and then it just. Over and over and over.
And so that's why mine are always in a cool consistent.
Place Now they're at the bottom of my in in my closet in a dark
(30:52):
sealed container. Because like, the shelf life on
this is 2 years. You think about that, people
like you could get like, I mean,we're talking about if you're
and and if it's Nana who's getting into it, great.
You can introduce Nana into putting it in her tea or her
coffee. Yeah, right.
Oh, yeah. And then you could go over here,
right, And get this nice rig. Put that up to your lips.
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Oh man I watched a video of someone getting high with their
grandma and I just laughed so hard I was like oh man this
would be awesome. Amazing.
I would love to get high with mygrandma.
I know there's no way in hell she would, but like, maybe.
I could maybe in some hot chocolate.
Yeah, right. Yeah, I I wouldn't want to dose
her and not tell. Her no, tell her.
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Say, hey, look how much time yougot left.
Come on, you know what? Yeah.
Next time I go down and I'll be like, grandma, do you need?
You know what? How much time do you have you
been wanting to be gone for agesanyway?
Why not just have some fun? Why not?
Why not? You know what it's gonna feel
like when you get a touch That veil.
'Cause she she felt it like experienced cannabis and a
little bit of highs when she didedibles when her mind she
(31:58):
probably. Felt amazing.
Yeah, but then I think it's thatmentality of, Oh, well, I don't
need this and this is still a drug and it's bad and, you know,
so. You need to do that.
And then you're saying, hey, I'mjust going to ask you questions
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Welcome to Cannabis School. I'm your host, Jesse Angeles.
And I'm Brandon Elder. And we're here to talk to you
about everything pertaining to cannabis from vape flour,
edibles, strains, and everythingin between.
Welcome to another episode of Cannabis School.
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Yeah, today we're checking out aa Utah strain.
It's actually called out of state.
Is the brand so. Better taste.
One, it's cold cured, full melt and this is a live rosin batter.
So let's see, this was so this is packaged and tested back in
April of this year. Oh nice.
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I've really been impressed with the local concentrates.
We for a while we just frequented Dragonfly, not
because they are so kind to us every single month and have so
we we love them. Absolutely.
I don't think we have anything ever bad to say about them.
High tech, high quality. Them there was just a couple
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strains here or there that haven't been our favorite.
Not that we've shit on them, butthey're there's someone else's
place for that strain. It's just not ours.
And and you know what I look at like cannabis strains, like
burritos, they're all good. It just maybe there's some that
you don't like, right? Yeah, they're all good, but
sometimes the person who makes some fucks it up.
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Yep, totally. Yeah, dude, totally.
That one kid. Just like, Oh my God.
But smell this though. So this is Orange Block Berry,
and yeah, super excited it's a hybrid.
It smells like a sweet fart. Right a sweet.
I'm still feeling red velvet. Oh, I believe that.
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Oh, that stuff is good. So this is a solventless one.
They used ice water to process it and top terp is limiting and
then karyophylline so or beta karyophylline.
So then it's got miracine and humaline as well in there.
So should be pretty solid. Pretty excited.
Yeah. Yeah, it is.
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I I admit these concentrates outof state.
We tried another one. Not a big fan.
I don't remember the one you guys would have to go back and
find. Oh, the out of state brand one,
Yeah. I didn't like that one at all.
Which is the experience, the flavor, the dude, It's it's
which thing? It's random.
It was all of the above. The flavor was meh, The feeling
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was kind of unsettling. And you know what?
That Turk profile, just there's something in me genetically that
it just doesn't vibe with. It's not necessarily it's bad
because there are people out there that'll be like, oh, well,
you know, Jack Herrera always makes me super anxious.
But then for me, I'm like, yeah,I could understand that
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depending on where you get it from.
And the person, sometimes peopledon't do well with high sativa
or that type of dirt profile. And that's so beautiful.
I mean, we are talking with Doctor Dana.
We got to, we got to talk to that company.
Which company? She talked about that.
You could pop these pills and they'll get you.
Back Oh the yeah, the thing thatthey have, they have it in
pharmacies or head shops and stuff down in Arizona.
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Yeah, we got to. We got to figure out how to be
able to get connected with them too.
Because that sounds amazing. That sound great.
I mean, wouldn't that be awesometo not only own, but to have on
you to help others? Because that's the worst when
somebody who's really new to it.Yeah, it's basically a product
if you weren't listening to thatepisode, that helps bring you
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down from a high in matter of minutes, get you basically back
to a base level. So we will I edit that later
this next week. So I will make sure those are in
the show notes. We'll see about reaching out to
them, but today we are using ourconcentrate in our favorite E
rigs. Best.
I don't think we've ever been excited about an E rig as much
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as we are about these guys. I know, which is crazy to say
because I still love Doctor Dabber.
They make great products, but like for for the price point
where no one is like or where they're going.
Hey, I don't want to spend $400.00 for the Doctor Dabber
switch, which is my favorite onefrom Doctor Dabber.
If you're not going for that, this is 100 and 6000 and $70.
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And then you get our code and they're solid, dude.
And our code in the notes saves you on top of that.
So it's even cheaper than that. Well.
And I, I got to say, man, like in the cannabis world, it's
really hard for quality to maintain.
And we've seen a lot, We've tried a lot.
You mean you can go back and we have done a ton?
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There's a battle of the E rigs episode years ago the.
Yeah, go back and look at that. A bunch of rigs sent out to us.
This is heating up, so I'm goingto give you first go on that.
Oh well. Thank you friend.
Oh. Yeah, and it got it all nice
and. Clean and sparkly spinning top.
I know I did too. So after you gave me that piece
and I swapped it out, it's just been all that's on there, but I
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still have the other one. Nice.
What's really good about this? Oh.
Tastes like it smells. Oh, it's like a blood orange.
Yeah. That's a really rich, deep
flavor of a blood orange. What's great about it, though,
that after having it with that tea has really I'm I'm just
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having some I'm just having someOh, gripe tea and and 678 9/10.
The power of Christ can tell you.
Whoa, there's got to be a lot ofbeta careful in this.
Yeah, that's the second terp Limonene's the first beta
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carefully. Is the 2nd 12 milligrams of the
limonene and 1.5 beta carefully?You know what we need to do.
We need to get our I I remember you can be a canisor, like a, a
certified canisor. We got to figure out how to do
that. We got to figure out a school.
We just need to make a program for that.
We have cannabis school. Dude.
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I feel this right in my cheeks, straight to my face.
Yeah, it's a very happy strain right away.
Like right to the front of my head.
Right here, like it's like a like where our headphones are
kind of feels like it just kind of shapes around the face.
It's really nice. Just the head top of the cheeks,
no cottonmouth at all. It is a very peppery string,
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though. Be forewarned, you will cough.
It's it's still sitting back there, but it's like black
pepper, not hot pepper. I do like that it woke me up
from the red velvet. Yeah, oh dude, this one is a
this is a hybrid sativa leaning for sure with a lemon in there.
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Definitely tells you that lemonade is great too, keeps
down the anxiety. But the beta carophiline, that's
actually kind of a odd way because you could be used as
more of a as like on the go painstrain.
But then the the next terp is miracine, granted it's like 4kg
instead of 12 and 14, but then humaline is like 4 milligrams as
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well. That's so that's balancing and
that's the, it's a great hybrid balance.
Yeah, I that's amazing hybrid balance because you think about
that, especially that humiline, that's that uplifting feeling
happiness. The lemonine is the calming and
the just kind of relaxed, but but the humiline that just kind
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of adds on top of it very caffeinated.
The room in the it's very illuminating too.
Has it got brighter in here? No, I mean not lights wise but
it no. Like your sight?
It got more illuminating after that first.
Well dude and our and our attitude already fast acting.
Yeah, it's more Dang again. So this is my least favorite
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thing about yeah. And we had quite a few comments
that was. Cool.
Well, about the coloration and stuff.
Due to something in the grower, the nutrients and I thought
about that. The nutrients definitely and not
necessarily that it's bad, it's just the way it looks because
the ones that we typically get that are our legacy that I love
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the look. I I like looking in after I've
had a sesh and it just looks like honey.
That's. I got super boof flavors for a
moment. Super boof.
Really super boofs. Yeah, it tasted almost like
super Boof that was. Weird.
That was the one thing I was kind of confused about when Bo
was over here. He's like, yeah, we got super
boof sativa and I'm like, really?
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I'll. Be curious to see there could
just be the turf profile that came out of it.
That's weird. Oh, and it's like, right, right
on it. Yeah, that's straight back to
the face, like even more. Oh man, that blood orange
flavor. Is delicious.
It's been wow, yeah, I am quite pleasantly surprised with this.
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And it's right behind my eyes too now.
Not heavy but like I feel it a little bit behind my eyes.
I turned it down. Now turn it on and then let it.
No, it's still at 4:25. Oh, they are.
Yeah. Well, the light went off.
Oh, sometimes if this gets twisted the wrong way, it.
Shuts it off. Let's.
Or disconnects, so it doesn't. Weird, I haven't had that.
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I do not have the small one, which I miss.
That is my favorite. It is by far the best.
I love that one and you know, it's like something now where I
honestly, it's like, you know, my favorite vaporizers come from
Storson Bickel because it they are the best.
I've dude, I have treated this thing like a Honda.
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Let me tell you that right now, I have treated this not very
well right now. Look at that shit.
It's all caked. I don't even know how smoke gets
through it. But guess what?
I get like a full sesh every time.
I remember I sat there and you know how I do it, I'll I'll go
up a button just to keep it rolling, which my battery goes.
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But I'm like fuck, I do that with my phone.
I'll just hook it up. So after a sesh, I'll just hook
it up and leave it over there. I'm like, yeah, but we've had
this for over 2 years. Oh yeah, we had that one, went
to Vegas. We we've had this for a long ass
time. Still rocking?
Oh, great device. And if you want to code for your
stores and pickle, go check the show notes.
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We've got that for the bomb rigsfor the.
Our stores and pickle. I mean, love both of those.
They're me. One the flavor profile from this
train, out of state, out of state.
I'm going to say right now, thisis my favorite concentrate of
2025 that I've had in from the steak.
It is the best. I love it.
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It is it is truly the best. And the reason why I'm saying
that is 1 Your flavor profile isfucking off the charts.
It's still in my it is so good. Like I could imagine, like one
thing would be really awesome todo is like have just some not
super sweet fruits with this. Just eat that because it's a it
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it, it can be a munchy strain. Yeah, I could see that.
I could definitely get. Oh yeah.
I could eat, yeah, I could eat, you know, 'cause I'm just like.
Dude, back to our episode with Tim Pickett years and years ago.
I think the first one we did there was a recommendation that
he said when you feel like you're munchy, that's to drink.
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Ice water. So if you are feeling munchy on
some orange BlackBerry, go aheadand drink some ice water.
See if that helps. I think that I I need to do
Sometimes I worry about that. I'm I pulled myself off a
Manjaro mainly was to get my blood sugars down, but I've kept
my weight down. I've gone since I stopped.
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This is this is really funny. Since I stopped using
testosterone, yeah, my weight's gone up.
Wow, interesting. Yeah, by 10 lbs.
Weird. I was getting pretty ripped so
it leaned you out. Yeah.
And the way that I, my diets arelike in the morning it's high
protein, in the afternoon it's protein and carbs.
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And then at home I eat pretty much whatever my wife has made
for dinner, which is usually a mix of, of higher carbs, some
protein. So it's like, it's totally fine.
But I the thing that sucks is when I have a strain that's
super munchy. This one I could eat, but not a
lot. And that's one of the great
things that I've learned is I'vethe Manjaro helped train my body
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to go. You don't need to eat all the
time. And I eat only when I'm stressed
or if I'm I just, I just need tofeel.
Yeah, I'm, I'm just trying to give myself dopamine pretty
much. And you know, the 1st place is
my mouth, right? And not that big bird.
How dare you? First thing you want you to do
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is put it in his mouth. If you say so.
Happy birthday. I'm just doing this because you
asked me too. I.
I only doing this because I would take it all.
I'm just doing what you want. Yeah, that's all it.
But fuck, I forgot what I was talking about.
Anyways, this is awesome. Really.
I if you are in Utah or if you're somewhere else, it is a
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very good strain. Very good.
Oh my gosh, You know what? I don't get really excited about
a 1G. I mean, I'm going to say this
like you're looking anywhere from like if it's on sale, which
is rare, but if it's on sale. Right now, fuck, it's $85 per
gram. $85 gram, but I, I will say this for year more just
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getting into the space and I normally wouldn't say this not
just because of what I'm experiencing right now, but what
I've been thinking about lately Brandon and I wanted to get your
opinion on this. With dabs, I feel it is far more
effective in the medicinal way to make sure that if one you're
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using it for focus alert and work oriented, I would
recommend, you know, just makingsure that you're in a space
where you're you can be safe in a way you if you know what I
mean. And then the other side is if
you've dealing with pain all day, I think the dabs are by far
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better than a vape pen. And I don't think that during
where you're around a lot of people, it's a little bit more
difficult flame to flower. I have been doing a new routine
where I only do flame to or If Ido flame to flower I mostly
vaporize is unless it's a joint I'll smoke a joint.
Yeah, I love joints too. But you know what I mean?
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Like I mean what? What are your thoughts?
So whatever audience members, Reema, she has been messaging
about concentrates recently, that was cool about that.
I believe it was Reema. Sorry, there's been a lot of
emails recently and I. Yeah, a lot of interaction guys
is. Awesome, love you all.
It's been amazing. I love hearing your stories and
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connecting. So but the concentrates they
were getting more into concentrates and trying to see
like if that's better than you know, necessarily a pot like a
pen. And my argument is I have never
seen, I take that back, 99% of the concentrates that I've seen
are not the same consistency of product as what is ever in a
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cart ever. So there's some sort of
distillation, some sort of manipulation to that product to
get it to that form or they justdon't whip it as much.
Whatever it is, there's something that I've noticed that
I get better flavors and experiences from a concentrate
and with most pens I don't get the control of the temperature
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the same way as I do. With this meaning I can control
my experience way more with not just the level of high, but
almost the terpenes that are burnt off because of the
temperature that I'm going at. So.
I can have a different, much better, more nuanced experience
with a dab rig. And for me, yes, like this gram
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was expensive, but like most of other grams, like I found other
ways that not all of them are that price.
Right. And so for me, it's a much
better use for longevity. I can hit the level I need to
for my pain and that will last for way more a lot more hours
than a pen would. Oh my gosh, but you met.
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I mean, and and with all that, Iwas just thinking about how my
body feels right now. I feel I have.
It's getting colder so we feel more of the aches and my knee
doesn't hurt right now but I'm so awake.
Yeah, I have less sharpness in my back at this moment.
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It's kind of it is probably, I mean, that's why I'm saying like
out of all concentrates right now, I can, I can because I have
consumed a lot of concentrates as of late and it's been a
great, it's been a it's, it's been very illuminating.
I think about new cannabis consumers, if they're going to
smoke, this is going to be 1 theeasiest on them to the the
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safest 'cause you're controllingthe dose.
And the temperature and everything way more than and The
thing is sometimes it's hard to take a small hit on a pen
because maybe that pen is clogged.
Maybe you're new to it on this. You can pull and just see it
fill up this. You don't have to pull hard.
You pull for a second and then you see in here and go, OK,
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well, I just want the tiniest sip.
So then you sip on that. Yeah.
And you have to take the rest ofit.
Well, and, and that's why the bomb rigs are, are amazing.
Super. I just love what they've done
with it. I mean, it doesn't matter the
color, it's, you know, the quality that you're getting with
it. I I told you like I am not
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always great at cleaning these things and I cleaned it out and
I swear I was getting resin candy like it was so like it
came out in large, thick, sharp pieces and I was just like, that
sounds and you know, it was so, I mean, it literally took me no
time. And it works great.
Dude, I've run this thing dirty.What I usually would say is if
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this doesn't spin very well, it's time to clean.
Oh, OK, that's. It right, the little knob thing,
it's deceiving 'cause when it warms up, it moves.
Yeah, but like this, Nope. It you know when it's done
because it's like, and I'm like,oh, it's time to clean.
That's why I love it. This is my favorite top.
I clean mine pretty regularly, but then it was, it's usually
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the glass that I'm like, I should tear this apart and clean
everything. Yeah.
And so then I do, but usually it's not too long between it,
but I still don't. Like, oh, it's.
Not everyday. But it's the favorite.
Except for the bowl, I'm every two to three dabs.
I'm usually cleaning out the ball.
Well, and I don't like the the rigs with the older atomizers.
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I think they're atomizers like the the dab dab tech.
Yeah, Wes had reached out to me.I gave him one of those a while
ago and I said hey, he he reached out and he goes, hey, do
you know where I can get one of these?
These these bangers for it. And I'm like, yeah, and I looked
them up, they're like 7080 bucks.
And I'm like. That's crazy.
And I'm like, no, dude, that is yeah.
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Like, I mean, yeah, you get. He doesn't clean his either
super well. No, no, no, no, no.
But I mean at At the same time though, it's like.
Man. So here's my question to
everyone at home. How often do you clean your rig?
Is it really dirty? Is it like, I guess, are you?
Are you Jesse? Are you Brandon?
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Are you? Messy, Jesse.
Are you like really bad that youwould never clean it at all?
Or are you? You clean it after every single
use and it's meticulous and spotless.
I, I, I will say like I've got aroutine where I, I use a little
bit of water and I and like a cap of water and I dip AQ tip in
there when I'm done And then while it's warm, yeah.
(20:45):
And it, it cleans it real good because then I see the Q-tip and
it's black. Yeah.
It's soaked up everything. I even the ring has gotten less
because I do it when it's hot. Yeah.
And so I'm just like, yeah, I keep it.
It's the base. But that's what I love about
this dude. Any other rig that I've used,
when the base gets bad, it's bad.
(21:06):
And it's a paint. This is pretty easy to clean.
Super easy. I was impressed.
Yeah, clip. And I dropped that whole thing
in ISO, right? Just not.
AI just shred. I pull it apart, it's awesome.
And then heat up your water really hot when you rinse it out
so that it gets rid of all the extra concentrate in there.
Yeah. But the to go back to like why
now because we've been consumingso much concentrates as of late.
(21:30):
Thank you, Frank. Thank you, Bijan.
We now are seeing this where we really want people of all levels
of cannabis consumption to be considering concentrates on one,
on the on the side where it's it's, it's not carcinogens that
you're worried about. Yeah, you're getting that into
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there. But your body will absorb it.
It's the way you can be able to consume just such as like with
the bomb rigs absolutely recommended because of their
discreteness and they're very well built.
But the, the the experiences that you could get on that one
at a very, very, very micro level is not as easy to do with
(22:11):
pens. And the reason why I say that is
because the pen is going to heatup to a baseline level of what
it's going to be able to activate it, but the consumer
can just keep pulling and what one or two or three poles before
it gets you there. Now it's 5 or 6 and then you hit
a ceiling. Now you're consuming more and
(22:33):
you're not doing it. And and half of it is going to
change the molecular structure of it, which changes the
experience by the end of your pen.
That's why it's all dark. That's what I was actually
thinking too, was it actually doesn't really matter what pen
you use because any pen you use will continuously heat up and
(22:54):
cool down that concentration. Which changes it.
The molecular structure of your cannabinoids that are in there.
So from the start to the end it wouldn't even be the same
experience. And it normally isn't now you
notice at the end it's more CBN feeling.
And straight technology, you're like tastes like circuit board
over here. Ever since Bijan said that, he's
(23:15):
like, he's like pretty much yourfree basic.
Circuit boards or something ideait's.
It's so funny, dude. It's.
So that that's the one of the better things with this is you
only are pulling out what you need.
So then the rest right, stays atthat same consistency, that
same, you know, terp profile, cannabinoid profile.
(23:36):
And the other good thing I was thinking about it, I when I used
to work in an office all the time and I would take a pen with
me. The pens then I could twist off
the top and I would take out a little toothpick, dab that in my
coffee and stir it around and have a drinkable.
You can do that with this. You can't do that with most of
the pens. Now you can get like, I mean, I
love that idea too, because it'sa toothpick size and and that's
(24:00):
where you really need to be thinking about is that the you
don't need a big amount to get to where you need.
If you're new to it, if you're still doing your, your moderate
with it, like like I would say I'm more moderate.
I would. I'm a moderate to heavy user,
more so now a moderate user. You're going to get a lot of
(24:20):
mileage out of it. Like one of these you're going
to get a month, maybe longer. Because this is like 1G cart.
So if you're doing that, but youhave better and The thing is.
You're going to get all of it. You don't get the same hand to
mouth oral fixation or habit that comes from it from a pen
because. Definitely don't want to walk
around in your. Pocket or whatever.
Like it's just not the same. Now there are those people that
(24:43):
are like, look, what if I'm at work and I'm, I'm consuming and
I, I kind of need, you know, constant stimulation because,
well, that's just where I'm at with cannabis.
And I understand it. Whatever your relationship is,
is where your relationship. I still think that is the better
way to. Go.
I do. I think the second side would be
something like the the honey honey stick phantom.
(25:05):
OK. Or even like the little honey
Badgers that you can, you literally just touch the
concentrate to the tip of it. That's what I was.
Thinking in the bucket too. I think that's even better.
And the only reason why I was going to be the caveat on the
other one is that they're coils and the coils they change it you
you're going to have to go really low town.
(25:27):
So you're saying you didn't likethe puff Co pivot?
Would the puff Co pivot have a place in that moment I.
With you saying what, what? Well, and just thinking about
the honey stick, the honey stickhas its place, but after
thinking about it my experience with the pivot, I think that
Nerith is right. It is the best small micro
(25:48):
concentrate delivery mechanism that they it's very, it's like a
tooth. It's like a size of like a
chapstick, OK, It's very small, very discreet.
I love it. And it was cool because when
Nerath and I met up for I I had a non alcoholic beer and it was
very delicious. It was a Heineken and I was
(26:09):
like, damn, I want that again. I I, I don't want the alcohol.
I just love the flavor. Yeah, probably because it's
really close to smelling like cannabis anyways.
That's funny. Because it's skunky, Yeah.
Which, if you know about that hops, is in the cannabis family.
Yeah, well, there's the terpenesthat come from hops that are in,
you know, the same. Yeah, it's so cool.
(26:29):
They look same too, right? Almost.
Yeah, often times when it's processed or in certain forms
like yeah, see it. It's so cool.
It's so cool. Yeah.
But the pivot I think is something that would be
recommended for anybody to get, especially if you're new to it,
because you can temperature control it.
It's it's simplistic, it's discrete.
But do you have to say? Temperature control on a puff.
(26:50):
No, I think it's doesn't too. Oh OK, but in an app you can
fully temperature control usually.
Yeah, totally. So that wouldn't be bad because
even if you have to go through the web-based app.
But that's what you get, like the smaller you go, the less
control you get. And that's why for for your
money, this is it. This is it because the quality
(27:12):
of product you're getting. It's just not quite as discreet
if you're chilling in your car at work trying to do it.
Like it's, it's a pretty bit, yeah, but it's small.
It's tiny. But like if you're the pivot is
more discreet than this. Well, you think about it.
I mean, like, what if you had during your day?
And that's why concentrates are so great, especially in these
little jars. They're airtight.
They're not going to be there. But I love your idea, Brandon.
(27:34):
You're there at work. Most people are going to drink
coffee or tea throughout the day.
Maybe they're doing an energy drink.
I would recommend doing like even a tea and then being able
to do that with the toothpick. You just go like that, put it in
your coffee. Now you're able to use cannabis
while you're at work. And it has to be hot enough to
activate it. So make sure it's just hot or or
if you want, what you can do is you don't want to pre activate
(27:56):
it and then put it in Yeah, just.
No, just. I mean, that's simple.
Hot, hot coffee. Put it in there or tea or
something. And yeah, stir just a tiny bit.
That's why I would recommend like Earl Grey tea because it's
got such a flowery, fragrant type thing.
And then when you stir that in there, the hotter it is.
You just going to mostly smell that.
And even if you're going to smell cannabis, somebody be
like, oh, it's my balm. I've never, I never had anyone
(28:18):
notice it wasn't that. I don't.
Know, but I I didn't even think about that until you'd said that
I was just like, dude, that is right.
You could do that like. That's why.
Or make edibles like there's so many other options with just a
concentrate that you can't necessarily do with a a pen.
Oh yeah, if you wanted to make abunch of gummies, 'cause you're
(28:41):
a gummy person, you're just like, I just need gummies 'cause
I don't like, I don't want to smoke it.
Getting that would make a shit load of gummies for the rest of
your month. As long as you're not like a
confrete, you know, did not mom,mom, mom.
And then I get it. We've all hit that point, you
know, and, and Brandon used to have to do that until he started
using the moxies. Yeah, well, I've been out of
(29:03):
those for SO. Long Yeah, we need, yeah, we
need to get more. So like this?
Whole this bucket 622 milligramsof THC.
That's a lot of THC. So if you figured out whatever
your dose was for edibles. Could you imagine split?
That up between there. If your sweet spots like 5.
Oh yeah, you 5 to 10. You would if you had five to 10.
(29:24):
That would be insane. You would go.
Forever. Your dabbing shouldn't be with a
hot knife. It should be with a toothpick.
Yeah, I just thought of that, like when you started saying I'm
like, I should be using a toothpick for micro doses.
Yeah, Yeah. I mean, dude.
And seriously, how far would it go?
You keep it? Well, Brandon always talks about
keeping it in a cool place. He always keeps his.
(29:45):
Minor in my fridge. Yeah, always in his fridge.
I need to fix my little fridge. It had a little fuse thing go on
the back, but I truly that's where I store my like that
cannabis like in that form because it keeps it longer.
But even if you keep it out somewhere else, just keep it in
the cool. Dark the the shelf life and
that's the thing like you reallyhave to be considerate of the
(30:06):
temperature because I've seen when cannabis gets into high
70s, low 80s. It changes everything about it.
It's melted, it's like butter, and you don't want to alter your
like the. No, I had that happen with
Durbin Poison and I left it out in my because that was my area.
My my garage is my smoke area and it was out there and it got
(30:30):
hot as balls. Yeah.
And it totally changed. I it went from a very peppy
strain to extremely tired. And it's like, oh, it turned
into CBN. Yeah, because it probably baked
it and then it just. Over and over and over.
And so that's why mine are always in a cool consistent.
Place Now they're at the bottom of my in in my closet in a dark
(30:52):
sealed container. Because like, the shelf life on
this is 2 years. You think about that, people
like you could get like, I mean,we're talking about if you're
and and if it's Nana who's getting into it, great.
You can introduce Nana into putting it in her tea or her
coffee. Yeah, right.
Oh, yeah. And then you could go over here,
right, And get this nice rig. Put that up to your lips.
(31:14):
Oh man I watched a video of someone getting high with their
grandma and I just laughed so hard I was like oh man this
would be awesome. Amazing.
I would love to get high with mygrandma.
I know there's no way in hell she would, but like, maybe.
I could maybe in some hot chocolate.
Yeah, right. Yeah, I I wouldn't want to dose
her and not tell. Her no, tell her.
(31:36):
Say, hey, look how much time yougot left.
Come on, you know what? Yeah.
Next time I go down and I'll be like, grandma, do you need?
You know what? How much time do you have you
been wanting to be gone for agesanyway?
Why not just have some fun? Why not?
Why not? You know what it's gonna feel
like when you get a touch That veil.
'Cause she she felt it like experienced cannabis and a
little bit of highs when she didedibles when her mind she
(31:58):
probably. Felt amazing.
Yeah, but then I think it's thatmentality of, Oh, well, I don't
need this and this is still a drug and it's bad and, you know,
so. You need to do that.
And then you're saying, hey, I'mjust going to ask you questions
about you growing up and tell meabout the fun times.
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