September 11, 2025 • 58 mins
Welcome back to The Sesh, where conversations go sideways, strains spark stories, and nothing is off-limits.
This week, Brandon and Jesse light up some Papaya Cake (easily a top 5 strain in our book) and dive straight into one of those chatty highs where everything feels worth unpacking. From fake pee hacks for drug tests (yep, with a 25% off code just for our listeners) to run-ins with cops, car accidents mid-Zoom call, and why money doesn’t define you — it’s all on the table.
We talk about the ego as armor, letting people cut in on the freeway as a metaphor for life, and why human connection is worth more than any shiny label or paycheck. It’s raw, it’s funny, and it gets unexpectedly deep in the way The Seshalways does.
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(00:00):
I'm Brandon. And I'm Jesse we're.
Cannabis school having cannabis infused conversations.
With everyday. People.
Cannabis companies. Celebrities.
And your mom? Welcome to the sesh.
Hey, welcome, guys. Hey, what's going on?
How's your headspace this morning, man?
Dude, my headspace is good. Dude, we'll get this papaya cake
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that we reviewed and it's in ourtop five strains.
Oh my God, yeah. I of all time, I don't know
where in the top five 'cause it's it's fighting in my head
right now. I don't know either.
But I still do. You have the top one of all
time. Top five strains that I'd like
to smoke. That's where we're gonna go.
Yeah. Yeah.
I don't think it the numerical order.
They just fit in there. Like if any of these five are
(00:44):
available, I'll smoke them. If you know what it is, I'll
smoke it. I'll smoke a dirty disti of
this. That's how much I like this just
to try it. Yeah, because this strain is
like, we just had this really indepth conversation that
unfortunately you will not be able to participate in.
But it was it's a good conversation.
And it kind of went back into, you know, hell.
Of a chatty strain. It is.
(01:05):
It's a very good strain, which is awesome because we can talk
about, you know, where we're at right now, man.
And you know, I've been really curious and I do appreciate we
had an audience member so bold of you.
You just said like, hey, Jesse, you fucking talk to us,
Chatterbox. And Brandon, you don't talk
enough. So I'm very aware of it.
(01:26):
Sometimes strains get crazy and they just grab a hold of you.
And sometimes I'm a quieter person than Jesse.
Yeah, no, sometimes when he justsmokes, he just and when he
needs to jump in, he jumps in And I'm getting way better at
because I'm I'm, I'm way more aware of myself and and I've had
(01:47):
this fantastic new beginning with this job.
It's awesome. It doesn't get in the way of
this one. I didn't have to do anything to
avoid drug test. Nope, We got a partnership with
this beautiful company that we really.
Like, Oh yeah, products. Down there, we've talked about
it in every episode recently because it's just that cool.
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I mean for all you kinky people fake pee, think of all the cool
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family member, a partner who is just really worried about a drug
test coming up. This is the top producer, I
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episode. This is a valid point.
What is this worth? The best part about it?
It's worth 55,000. It's worth 120,000.
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It's worth 200,000. How?
Much. Do you make a year?
Yeah. When you think about it and
quantifying on that level and we're just because you're
listening to cannabis school because they don't advertise
with anybody. You can buy this like in head
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We get you an extra 25% off. Because we love you guys.
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The thing warms up, has this cool little hand warming pouch
that they put in the back. This is a a patented bag.
No one else knows how to make this bag.
They had to get this from a special place.
But it's cool. You heat it up and then it heats
up to around 90 to 100° and that's ready and you can use it.
(03:33):
It'll stay that warm for 8 hours.
Just don't put the heating pad skin.
Yeah, I saw this thing guys, do not put on the pad.
I repeat, do not put it like. That was more hot coffee on my
lap. I think all the bad reviews were
guys who were really high and they tried it out.
Do not insert penis into toaster.
Yeah, like, Oh no, it's biting me.
(03:56):
How Really. What's going on?
Yeah, he must have been really high.
Oh those guys like all the reviews are like 3 words.
Yeah, it probably wasn't cannabis that they were using.
That's why they. No that was definitely fentanyl
anyway. Got the fentanyl lean and
everything. The fentanyl lean it's.
Like I'll do lean, I'll tell youthat that that's that's really
(04:17):
fucked up. But I mean at the same time dude
I saw this guy like I was getting out of in my office this
last week and he was doing the fent lean and I was so sad.
He looked like the inflatable arm dude walking down the
street. I just want to play like Fat
Joe's lean back. Yeah, dude, because he is.
And I felt so bad for like, I'm like, fuck dude, why don't you
(04:39):
smoke AJ? What has life got to be like
that you get to fentanyl? Like, I mean, I guess medically
my grandma got to that for chronic migraines.
Like they prescribed that? But people just want to feel
better. For everyday person out on the
streets like that just seems shitty.
You know shit my. Water.
(05:00):
Oh, yeah? Yeah.
Hey, you're OK. You stay in there.
It's OK, baby. We'll be right there again.
Nick loves your dog. By the way.
It was just like, he's got to come see her.
She's a sweetie. Oh yeah, she's like.
Yeah, but people, they get into it, I think for a lot of the
people are hurting both inside and out.
(05:22):
And you know, there's Did you ever pop pills?
Yes. Were like lower tabs and shit
like that lower tabs. And yeah lower tab Percocet and
Oxys because I had a large largehundreds of them collection and
when I knocked doors for Vivint everyday I would pop two to
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three of them and drink a 5 hourenergy or a monster and go knock
doors. Man, I bet you felt really
focused. It was a weird sensation and
honestly. Like no pain and just feeling
kind of floaty. Yeah.
But even back then, I still had like, back pain.
I've had like chronic back pain since I was 10 maybe Yeah.
(06:07):
So I don't know, but I. The Brokeback bitch did did.
You ever pop pills? Oh yeah.
Oh. Yeah, I we had a.
It's one of my favorite things to do to clean.
I pop a couple 5-7 point fives or I pop A10.
I try to keep it low because it,it would kill my guts after
time. And whenever I would get one,
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like, you know, really used to worry my wife because I would,
she was like, where'd you go to the doctor for?
I hurt my knee. I didn't hurt my knee.
Fucking wanted some. I wanted some pills because you
know, at this point in my life Iwas really ashamed of where we
were at. Again, dude, before I met my
wife, I did. I had no desire to do anything.
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Nothing. I wanted to work at a mental
hospital, show up, leave, go home, drink, fall asleep.
Did you ever think you would getmarried like younger you?
Not as young as I did. I mean, I got married at 26.
I. Imagine myself like when I was
18, I pictured myself being old,living in an apartment, being
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single like I didn't imagine me getting married I.
Wanted to get married around like 30.
At least that's what I thought. Not that I didn't want to, no, I
just women were always. Oh, I always wanted to get
married. Oh, I wanted.
Interesting. And relationships always ended
up going interesting ways. And so by the time I was that
age, I was like, yeah, I don't, I don't know if I'll ever get
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married. Like maybe I'll just work and
have like my own place and do myown thing and then.
Bring some gentleman callers over.
No, no, it's just like, I never,yeah, just kind of changed.
And then life happens. Life does happen dude, and
that's oh shit, I lost Rosa to talk about where were we got.
(07:52):
Life right now, but. Yeah, no, man, but I, you know.
Sorts of places. I know.
I really love this strain. The thing that I've been
thinking about lately, though, man is like how we perceive we
it's what was it? Dude, I had this whole analogy
while I was driving. It was such a good strain.
I smoked in in the in the parking lot before I I took off
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onto the road and I didn't listen to any music and I just
listened to the traffic and where I was at and tried to zone
out everything and just focus onmy being a present but being
somewhere else at the same time.Weird concept, but there's a
(08:33):
show called Hannibal. Collector.
Like that, yeah, it's about him.But they use, it's like a
different setting and a different.
Yeah, it's a good show. That's a great.
Show, you know, the guy, the FBIguy, the professor, who will he.
Yeah, he will like he will recreate the crime.
Yes, as he is doing it yeah. And that's kind of what I I love
(08:53):
that concept. So I was like, you know, can I
put myself in this mindset of contemplation and this trucker
needed to get into the lane and I was just like.
And so many people are just like, no, I need to get up there
first. And I just slowed way down.
And I just, you know, just waving in there and he goes in
(09:16):
and then I start driving as I'm passing by.
He just, he really appreciated that.
And I started thinking the concept, we don't all need to be
there first, right? We've got this concept in our
mind that we have to be there first.
I've got to be there now. And it doesn't just go with
driving. It goes with everything.
I think of people who sell, theygot to sell now they're so
(09:39):
desperate on the phone going, hi, I'm Jesse.
I'm with XYZ company and I provide this type of service and
I could do all these things for you.
And if you just let me to come over there and I'll be the
lowest predator and that's how you feel.
And it's you got to be there first.
What the fuck? Why do we all feel like that?
Why can't I just be? I have been focusing on being
(09:59):
such a kind person on the road because I've never been in a
wreck, I've never caused a wreckand I've I've been in two wrecks
that weren't my fault. OK.
And so like I've been in. You've been in some hairy shit.
I've been in so many accidents. Yeah, dude, like you and Emily
when you guys got hit out. Here she bone randomly on
that's. Crazy you.
(10:20):
He was on your side, wasn't it? No, her side.
I was on a She's still hurt. Yeah, I think both of us do up
our spine. Did you run a zoom call?
I was on a zoom. I bet people still talk about
that. I was like legit on a call, like
Zoom had my laptop, had my phoneout, and I glance over right as
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she's just about to hit us. I always notice right before I'm
about to get hit when I was on the phone with you in the winter
and I'm like, oh bro, hey, I've got to go.
And you're like, what, Mike? Yeah, I'm about to get in a car
accident. You're like, what, Mike?
Yeah, I'm about to get rear-ended.
And like I was at a stop light and was in the going straight
line and I look at this van, I'mlooking at a rear viewer and
(11:03):
like this van is not slowing down.
This van is not slowing down. So I have enough room in front
of me that I can try and get to the center lane, the turning
lane out of their way. So I even start to move to get
out of the way. He still fucking hits me.
Was he not slowing down? Wasn't paying attention, wasn't
slowing down like this. Shit happens all the I mean, not
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all the time. Yeah, it's like that in cops had
it's like that in cops with you because, you know, I have a
completely different sentiment for cops, you know, am I happy
they pulled me over? Fuck no.
I did something or they, but I've never had the I've only no,
I'll take that back. I had one.
I barely moved to Provo, Right. We moved in with Terry, OK.
(11:50):
And I got pulled over like 75 yards away from my house.
I could see my house. Yeah.
Cops are grilling me. He goes, you know, I pulled you
over. I said, honestly, I don't know,
Kind of did rolling stop back there?
I said, I apologize, Officer didn't even see that I
apologize. I think I was just so focused on
getting home. Oh, yeah.
(12:11):
Where's home? I just moved right over here
now, what's your address? I don't even memorize.
I, I honestly can't remember. And he goes, really, because
your ID shows something else AndI'm like, he goes, hold on a
second, just moved. He goes back to his car, comes
back out and he's heated, got his hand on his gun and he goes,
(12:33):
you didn't tell me you had a carry, a concealed carry permit.
And I'm like, I don't have my weapon on me and I don't need to
divulge that unless I'm carryingmy weapon.
And he goes, so you don't know your address?
I'm like, I just moved here. I just moved here.
I know my memory of turn here, turn there.
He's like, all right. And then he goes, I'll let you
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go right now. He's like, don't do that again,
OK. And then I drove home and he
waited. Then he pulled out in front of
the house. Of course he did.
I just stood there and I'm like,what the fuck, dude?
What the fuck? And.
I would have gotten his badge number called the.
No, but that's the thing. Like I've only had that happen
like the other one was because my father-in-law made me a
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suspect into some dog murder. Father in law's a retard.
He's a fucking Terry. Terry, I know you're my uncle,
but you're a fucking retard. Yeah, dude, you're you're not
the. Piece of shit dude, but.
He never would. But if anybody does around him,
I think he lives in Alabama or something like that.
He moved far away from here. He burned too many bridges.
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But anyways, yeah, dude, it's I've been thinking about like,
why do we always feel like we got to be first?
I don't. Know.
Like money wise, like I got to have money.
Like I love that quote from Jerry Seinfeld.
He's like the. Reason why I want money is to be
able to take care of my family and others. 100% But that's the
thing. Like, it used to be like, like
I, I think I told you about thatquote where Jerry Seinfeld was
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being interviewed and he's like,whatever happened?
Why, why was why is it all aboutmoney now?
He's all back in the day, it wasyour job.
Yeah. If you had a cool job, you had a
cool job. Like nobody looked down on you
If you were a garbage man, nobody looked down.
If you were the post man, yeah. No one gave a shit.
No, everybody was just. Like how much money do you make?
What's your income? We do well.
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That's all that people would say.
We do well. Now all of a sudden we've added
dollars and cents as value of you as a person in society.
Yeah, no more has put that into my head, except for when we did
that one episode that we have taken off, which you will never
find. I saw him on another podcast.
I believe it. It was a guy and and the
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introduction was basically this billionaire.
And and I think about that and I'm like, it's so stupid to ever
be introduced. Is here's the dollar amount that
I hold. Here's the dollar amount.
Here's my how much mine? Even the way you felt when you
first met him, like you're like,whoa, dude, this is crazy
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because and I my. Mind, I'd never met someone
who'd it made that much money. Right.
But I mean, but I understand because of your upbringing,
money was extremely, extremely important.
Very valued. Very.
Yeah. My grandpa was keeping up with
the Joneses. Or it was keeping up with
grandpa. Yeah, You know.
On TV, I do have that. And then you had the other side.
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It was like extremely conservative.
Extremely for like frugal had all the money but had no desire
to spend. It looked like they lived in
squalor. Yeah, I mean, he got a.
It was so funny when when your mom and her sisters got him a
new fridge, he was pissed. He was like, I don't need that.
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And like, the other one broke. And then I came over and he
goes, well, they didn't need to do that.
And I'm like, yeah, I mean, we just throw them in coolers.
Yeah, plus God needs your money anyway, so you better save it.
I mean, you know, and I, that's the one thing I after I really
respected. I'm like, that actually is a
valuable lesson if you look at it from a different point, a
point of view, he says. You know what my last gift to
you guys is? To let you know that our love is
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more important than any money I could ever leave you.
So that's why I'm not giving it to you.
Do you? Feel like there was a lot of
love in the in that. No, towards the end, I think.
From him, yes, he realized at the end.
That he could have spent more time with his kids.
He could have loved them more. He could have told him he loved.
He would tell me that all the time when he would come over,
we'd have him over for dinner often.
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Yeah. And.
Grandpa after grandma passed, yeah, was a different person.
Totally was, you know, on on herway out.
The senility was skipping over into him too.
He was getting really bad. It's because it's hard when
that's all year round and that'swhat you're.
Oh, it's just nonsense. And then it's whatever form of
love or that that they shared, that's what he knew.
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And that was going away after 50years, like forever.
I I can imagine that's hard on any level, you know?
Absolutely. So and that's the difficult part
in any setting. You're always trying to see it
from, well, how should I be? I think what's great now is that
our children right now, for a lot of people around our age,
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we've, we've become a little bitmore cognizant of our actions in
the past of being like, not, notlike, oh, I'm sorry I didn't
call you by whatever the fuck you want me to call you, but
just because you treat them likea good person.
Like I know a lot of people today don't like hearing it, but
dude, I grew up colorblind. I didn't care if people were
black or brown or Asian. There wasn't a lot of black
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kids, but like, there was NativeAmericans, Hispanics, like.
I grew up with Thailander, a lotof Islanders.
And so they were just people. It was the same as anyone else,
the the people in my, my ward orwhatever.
There was all sorts of differentpeople and yet no one was any
better or worse or, or different.
It was like, OK, they live here.Their last name's this.
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They live here. Their last name's that like.
How do you how do you say that last name?
Yeah, I have no fucking clue. That's it.
Like that's all it came down to there.
Was nothing different about them.
Did Nope make me any better or them any better or or worse or
different. It was just like OK this is this
person, this is this person. We're all the same, like squeezy
paste come out. We're just, you know.
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Meet. Different paint on it.
But that's the thing, I think it's that again, it goes back to
that concept of why do I need tobe first?
Like is there really a like whenI let people in when?
Ego gets a. Normal 100% your ego is and and
I I was contemplating this with chat one time I was really high
I mean. Papaya cake kind of high.
Oh, dude, no, I I want to get like really high on this and
(18:39):
then just contemplate. But we the ego is not
necessarily a negative thing. It is a protective thing.
It can it, it creates this armorfor us and that's this really
good book. I don't know if you've you've
listened to it the altered ego effect.
Yeah. I love that I I started going
through it again and it makes way more sense and I'm actually
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applying it at work. Oh, it's cool.
I have Lightning McQueen. He's one of my alter egos and
when I touch him I activate Lightning McQueen in my mind of
what is my focus and Lightning McQueen is fast and he wins and
he does everything he needs to do but he is focused on the day
and I use that for calls. I'm just like, that's a there.
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And then when I'm in learning and in sales mode, I have my
Funko Pop, John Wick. He knows what to do all the
time. He's super calm all the time.
He never loses his temper. He's just surgical.
He knows everything to do. He knows how to do sign language
and speaking languages. Like, what the fuck was this
(19:45):
Renaissance man who kills people, right?
Yeah, but that's when I'm in that mode.
I do that. I'm not like 100% serious.
I'm just very aware and use all of what I have.
And it was really cool because when I'm there and I'm like, I
feel I'd get distracted because it's this ego thing in my head
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going, hey, we could do all these other fun things, right?
Like when you when you work fromhome, it's difficult not to come
in And like especially today where you don't feel it, you
want to go play games. Yeah, I have to.
If there's certain days where I'm like, fuck, what am I doing
today? I don't have editing.
I don't have social content creation.
I don't have scripting for that.I don't have like, OK, I have
(20:26):
some emails, but realistically, how much time is it to send back
the emails? Like, I've got a lot of time on
my day, So what the fuck am I going to do?
And I'm like, but I don't want to watch a show.
I don't want to play a video game because like, so then I'm
like, OK, what do I work on? So then I find something else to
work on or do because yeah, I, I, I just can't, I can't sit
down that early in my mind's like, because even growing up,
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even on Saturdays, we couldn't play with friends before noon.
Morning time was you get up, youclean, you do your chores, you
read, practice piano color in a coloring book.
Did they make you do like scripture study and shit?
No, just read every day for at least 30 minutes.
Do your chores, practice piano for at least 30 minutes.
And then when we were super little, we had to color in a
(21:11):
coloring book. But if it was I was head of the
lines too much or too much mess,we had to redo it because that
was rushed and. My mom hit you.
No, but she'd be like, you're going to be there.
But the outside thought your momwould do probably.
Yeah, I was surprised how many people were afraid of my mom,
but she wouldn't. She's a tiny little thing.
She'd be like, Oh well, tell your dad when he gets home.
Yeah, that would get my butt whooped.
So my mom, not afraid of her, just afraid of who she'll tell.
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Yeah, it's funny, man. Like we had this like concept
now and and this one guy had kind of said it.
And I was like, yeah, like, I know that there's, you know,
here, here's where I go in succession, right?
And I can only go so far becausethen I don't fucking know what's
going on for us. But the boomer generation
screwed the Gen. Xers because they purposely
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built massive ways to be financially OK, but nobody would
be OK after that after they're gone.
And this one guy is like, you know what?
Fuck them. And how they are the ones that
did really well in that generation, who are complaining
about the generation now. This is what they came from.
This is what the conversation stem from.
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Because they're just like, well,fuck those guys.
They're, they're horrible peopleanyways.
They complain endlessly. They're constantly saying like,
well, what about this? Like, they grew up during a time
that was very plentiful. Like, very plentiful from after
World War 2 all the way up untillike early 2000s.
The only time that was surprising, that kind of shocked
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me was when there was the the gas rations and food rations and
stuff. Yeah, 'cause I just learned that
my grandpa traded stuff for likegas rations so he could take his
family on a trip to California. I was like who fucks taking
trips? Like, yeah, rich people, because
they don't realize. Well, because then, I mean, it
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wouldn't matter if you're rich or not.
It's like, this is the days thatyou can go and here's your
ration card. Yeah, like you can't, you can't
just go. You still had to pay for it.
And and the gas was high then, too.
And people would be in line for hours.
All day. Yeah, and it it's, it was
insane, right? Can you?
Imagine spending your entire daywaiting in line just to fill up
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your car. But that's the thing.
Like, I think that a lot of people forget that these times
will constantly cyclically come back.
Like almost every decade we are going to have some type of
financial issues. And it's because we we don't
learn, right? It's like an addict.
We just say, you know what, I'm good, I'm done.
(23:45):
I don't want to do it anymore. And then somebody comes by going
just, you know, you come out like Joey Diaz, come on, come
on. Brandon Elder.
Come on, one more bump. Come on, let's do this.
One more ducky death. Sorry, yeah, let's do this.
Come on, let's snort this line. Let's go out there and get some
horse. I mean, it's it's, I don't know,
man. It's just changed.
And my generation fucked over the other ones because we helped
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build out this technology, started it out like on the, on
the commercial side and people started making crazy money and
it screwed people over because all of a sudden now they're all
focused on possessions and things and those possessions,
how much that cost. And I mean, now we, we celebrate
people like the Paul brothers and name your social media
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person. You're like, why is that person
a millionaire? Why is PewDiePie a millionaire?
I have no idea. Yeah, 'cause it could be
beautiful, bad. Like he's funny kind of
sometimes, but a millionaire. Isn't everyone?
Isn't everyone kind of funny? Sometimes, yeah, absolutely.
Like there are people that are just like really gifted up being
funny some. People are fucking funny.
Yeah, yeah, all the time. But but everyone's funny
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sometimes. Right.
Like, yeah. And if you catch that.
Moment and somehow it got blown like they're.
What? Yeah, but be back then, dude,
back during when I was growing up, I, I gotta be able.
I was fortunate enough to be able to dovetail off of that
generation of hard working, you know, very entrepreneurial
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mindset and, and travelling likemy dad is the only one from his
family that sought to come to America, got his visa, worked
his ass off, learned the language and got his citizenship
the right way. And he used to love this
country, used to love this country.
And. But he was the only one to do
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it. Yeah, right.
Nobody in there. They were all like.
And then it was kind of weird because he gets here and he
turns into a conformist. I'm thinking I'm going to hit
that again, too. Yeah.
Anyways, I long tangent over there.
I had to go pee. But I've just been trying to
think about how I'm being more present for not others, but for
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all those around me and being more.
I mean, I won't go deep into the, the Christianity thing, but
you know, being more like who I,I am, I, I love, I, I love the
idea of Christ. I love the, the concept of
Christ. I love, I love that, you know,
the Trinity and all that stuff. They, it makes a lot of sense to
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me, but I feel closer to that when I act this way.
I, I don't look at like there's a woman I work with now and she
straight up does not like me. I don't know what the fuck I
did, but she does not like me and I haven't.
Maybe it's just something about me, right?
Maybe she thinks that we're too tight of T-shirts or some shit
like that. But.
And I don't give a shit. Like this is like, what?
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I just felt bad. I was like, oh, and all I
thought was like, you know, at first I was like, what's this
bitch thinking? And then it quickly my mind
goes, yeah, well, you know what?Maybe maybe you remind her of
somebody, or maybe she's just that's true.
Maybe she's just a bitch, like she doesn't know she's just a
bitch. She's always been that way,
like, and, and maybe that's justwho she is.
Maybe that's her culture and that's why I put it in my mind.
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And I'm like, yeah, that's her culture.
So I'm like, I'm just, yeah, whatever, you know, Because now
I start thinking of like, if people are assholes, I'm like,
yeah, it's just your culture. Because then now I have to
respect the culture and I go, well, they're not offending me.
And then thus I don't, I don't feel upset about it.
I just go, wow, that's unfortunate.
Like guys, I, I work. Well, I heard a couple of them
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making sales calls, and the guy felt so uncomfortable.
And I said, hey, does that feel uncomfortable?
And he goes, yeah. And I said, think about the
other person on the other line. Right.
Yeah. Now you feel they're
uncomfortable too. Yep.
And he goes, well, how do you get rid of it?
And I'm like, just pretend. Or you address it, you know,
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Damn, feels kind of awkward, doesn't it?
Yeah, yeah, it does. And you're like cuz once you air
that out then the instant is like.
You become human. Shit.
OK. And they become human.
I would rather get on the phone going.
Hey, I'm really sorry. I'm so nervous.
I called you today. I just really don't want to make
you upset with me. Is that OK?
Yeah. They would probably be like,
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what do you, what do you, what can I help you with?
Like, they're gonna be more opento you.
And so I just thought about like, if, if I'm more aware of
people around me and thinking like, what I mean, it doesn't
mean like if, if you got to go to work, you got to go to work.
Like if somebody's starting shit, like, am I just going to
be all passive and turn the other cheek?
Probably not, probably not. I'm going to dump your ass in
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the dirt. But I, I think more in line
going, Hey, we don't need to getthere because I feel so good,
not because I got this job. I think I got this job because
of that. Like dude, I referred somebody
to them and I was like, that guywill get it.
That guy's way better than me. Oh yeah, you're telling me that?
And they and I asked him and I was like, well, why didn't you
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pick that guy? And he's like, perceived value,
the vibe, Well, the perceived value, I need to be here versus
like, let's see what we do, Yeah, see what happens.
Yeah, I need to make. This versus like, oh, I need to
be here and not just like here, but I need to be here.
And they're like, well, we don'tknow what you can do.
You've got a paper, but like, wedon't know who you are.
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Well, and especially when you, when you put a monetary value
and I think it's a, it's a bait question.
I've realized that now when theyask you what do you need to make
that is that's, that's a red flag for you.
They're purposely throwing up there because they want to see,
are you going to undervalue yourself or are you going to
overvalue yourself? Because it's like in that book,
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Chris Voss's never split the difference.
He has this story about this kidgraduates college and he's going
to be working at this financial company and he wish he took the
class before because he told them I won't take anything less
than 110,000. And they said no problem.
And then he found out that everybody starts at 135 and it's
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like, don't. Shoot yourself in the foot.
Well, it, it, this is a concept I learned in Sandler training
was don't spill your candy in the lobby.
What it means is don't, don't show everything right away.
Relax it. He's like he, he equated it to
when he was a little kid becausehe grew up like in the 50s.
And you know, he's all excited. He's got his popcorn and his
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candy and his drink, and he's running in the theater and
doesn't notice there's this bulge in the carpet and he trips
and falls over it and spills it everywhere because he was such
in a rush to get where he wantedto go.
Yeah, I need the sale. I need the friendship.
I need a date, whatever it is. But when in the past has the
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overly aggressive, throw up in your face type of approach
really worked in dating sales any of that relationship?
Yeah, like pick up artist yeah, who who looks like Oh yeah, if
you say this, she's she's instantly.
She's like, Oh my God, squish. Take Me Home.
Squish. No.
Nope, Nope, never works. That's all fantasy.
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And and I mean, it's like this. There's this really cool guy
that I follow something Fritz. He goes, he goes, my name is
Fritz and I'm autistic and he hesays the funniest shit dude, and
he's just, you know, what was cool is that he just.
He calls it out and he just. Well, dude, lean into your
weird, yeah? Exactly.
Like when people ask me at work,what are you into?
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I hate when people in in the business world go, well, you
know, I'm into biking, golf, youfucking boring dude.
And they go, what do you do? And I'm like, I'm really into
video games and I like playing with best friend.
We race, we do shooters. I like RPGs, I like if you.
Guys have ready or not let us know yeah send us a message
because 1/3 or 1/4 or 1/5 would be dope yeah also Gran Turismo 7
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like. Yeah, if you're a racer on that
one. I don't have my wheel anymore.
I've been going back to the controller to race with Jesse.
I telling him dude get the wheelI want to be fair I do bring it.
I don't. Think it would be fair?
Bring it all right, next. Time we raise.
Yeah, yeah, but no, I mean it, it's been, it's been
interesting, dude. It's been interesting.
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My perception of a value right now about others has magnified
and showed a lot of grace to me,not because of that one, but
because I'm not so focused on what do I get?
I don't care. I really don't care.
Like, I even thought of like a whole, like, I hear these guys
calling and I'm like, man, that sounds awful.
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I would rather be like, hey, how's it going, Sally?
Sound like first sales jobs? Yeah, dude, these guys, they,
they and these guys are 6-7 years.
At this company. No, in that world I don't have a
license for this. World, I can't imagine knocking
doors, making sales calls for six or seven years consistently
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and making that type of mistake.Well, dude, I, I, I started
thinking like, was that Mike, I was talking to Micah yesterday
and he said, dude, your name came up yesterday.
And I'm like, where? And he goes, we're at that
marketing group, the Utah Marketers group.
And I said, Oh yeah. And he's like, yeah, he's like,
he's like, we were talking and and people are like, oh, I have
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such a hard time talking to people and and networking to
work at like Kmart. He could be a manager.
He had had a college degree. Oh, yeah.
In business management. Yeah.
And I mean, they made money, dude.
You could be a manager of a Kmart and have a really good
home, nice car. I was in line to make 50,000 a
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year at 18 if I had but I told. Them back in the day too, man.
But I had told them that I was going to college and so I
couldn't manage training table. I was going to go do the other.
And so I was like, I can't, I can't do that.
I'm going to go to college. I'm going to do this.
And you're like, well, if you change your mind because I was
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way young when I was manager. Like and that's cool dude.
I mean it, it, it shows like earlier on what you your
aptitude was for. Your aptitude is for order.
Your aptitude is for smooth because you hate anxious
feelings and so you would ratherhave everything work smooth.
So you want to know how everything works.
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So you're just like, no, like you watch that movie The
Founder. No, watch that.
It's about McDonald's. Oh, OK.
Ray Kroc, how he discovered these two brothers in California
who had this amazing cause back then, like he had to wait.
And he, they even try to show itlike, you know, the, the
skating, the skating waitresses or whatever they had back then.
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Man, I would have got in troublethen.
But he's, he shows he's like, he's waiting forever.
And they're like, sorry, we're backed up.
And then he goes to his McDonald's and he's never seen
this before, but he went there to follow up because this
McDonald's that they had this burger shop ordered six.
Oh yeah, he sold milk milkshake makers.
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That's what this guy did for a living.
He had a good living too. He sold milkshake machines.
That's so weird. And he, they are like, we need
6. And he goes, no, it's a typo.
And he calls and he goes, hey, I'm sorry.
My, my girl probably messed thatup.
Did you say 6? He goes, yeah, that's wrong.
We actually need 8. And he was like, Oh my gosh,
this is the sale. So he drives out there with all
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the shit, but then he goes over to see what it is.
And he goes up and he's there like, yeah, you know, what do
you want? He goes, I'll get a burger and a
drink. And he goes, OK, and fries and
he goes, OK, it'll be like $0.55.
And he's like, OK, he gives it to him.
And then he hands him a bag and he goes, what's this?
And he goes, your food? He goes, no, but I just ordered
it. And he goes, and now it's here.
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Enjoy. And I was like, that kid was so
like, dude, customer service back then was customers.
That was what you were proud of.Yeah.
It was your job. Because you were there to truly.
Fucking love this stream. Like, I don't know, it's we live
in these worlds where we do these jobs where most of it just
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feels tedious, monotonous and dumb as fuck.
Like my girlfriend talks about her job all the time and how
much she hates it and she's like, it's so boring.
It's so dumb. It's so like it feels really
stupid. I'm like, I get that.
But your job doesn't define you,no, it's just something you do.
I thought about it. I think, man, could I?
Could I do that? Like would that matter?
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I'm literally just sitting thereat a computer doing this thing.
I sat at a computer anyway half the day trying to do all this
other shit like. It doesn't define I think.
It's a lot of the perception anda lot of that comes from what we
are able to surround ourselves with, and what I mean by that is
all of this. Stupid.
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Shit that we see on TV, that thecelebrities have, that our
neighbors have, that all of our friends have.
The new nicest headphones, the best upgraded watch, this type
of car, these shoes, this name brand, this Stanley water
bottle, all this shit that you're like, why the fuck do I
do I need this? Or is it just because I'm like,
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yes, exactly. It's just stuff.
And at the end of the day, all that stuff doesn't really make
you happy. It doesn't come down to like, oh
man, I'm feeling warm and fuzzy because look at all my stuff
I've got like I'm surrounded by Apple products.
Oh, I feel so happy. Or like, oh, I'm wearing Nike.
Or like, does that really equateto happiness?
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But that's I think what it is, it's it's a protective shield.
Like many of us try to armor ourself in a way like Knights would
Anybody going into battle, maybesubconsciously they're getting
ready to go out there because you can tell by the people and
what they wear that they really want you to know that they are
ready for battle. Like when the reason why I'm so
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appalled to suits is because, and I, I don't, I don't hate
suits. I want I want to get a nice
suit, but at the same time for what purpose?
And it is to bring comfort into a room.
I don't want a black one, I wanta blue one I like.
Suits, but I like because I likehow I look, not because I give a
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shit about how I'm presenting or.
No, no, but that, that it, it's but to yourself, though, again,
it's it's reflective. That only for me.
I don't give a shit about what anyone else thinks or feels
about it. Because you haven't it, it makes
you feel a certain way. But I've also noticed that I
enjoy buying less name brands orhaving less labels on me because
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I'm like, oh, I like wearing something that doesn't look like
I'm branded, like or. Or getting like, like dude, I
was telling you about this. I picked this up at DI Desert
Industry. For 5 bucks. 5 bucks dude, this
is an Under Armour 1 and it is so comfy and it's perfect
because it's not too warm and it's not cold yeah and I'm like
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this because I was worried I wasgoing to be like sweating and
I'm not at all yeah and I'm justlike dude, this is so cool and
and it's because like dude, that's another thing too, man.
I'm really big on this thriftingnow because, you know, unless
it's something to like, really like, I want some nice pants for
work and slacks like that. If I can find it, thrift.
Hell yeah. Oh yeah, If I can find polos and
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stuff like that, thrift, that's what I'm gonna.
Do just go get some really nice ones.
I've got a tailor who's right out in your area.
She does great work. Sweet.
She tailored Alex suit. She did my pants.
Oh dude, so money. I I need that right by Alex.
I need that. I've got some pants and all
that, but you know, it's, it's, I started thinking that too,
man, like on the opposite side, like I don't want to be
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perceived as something else. Like my, my business and my, my
company. They said that they love, they
love me, but my, my boss is very, he's a square.
So he is everything is right, right angles.
And I know that. And so if I don't fit the mold
of this is what it looks right? Then it's going to be hard.
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Now, if I had an ego, I would bereally upset.
He said, hey, I need you to change your LinkedIn and I need
you to change your profile picture on LinkedIn and on the
company 1. And I said, oh, no problem.
And he goes, really? And I said, yeah, I mean, we
celebrate personalities. No, no, no, it's not a big deal.
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It's just a picture. It's not your Facebook, it's not
your own Instagram. It's it's just, it's business.
No. Problem.
Who the fuck cares? And he's like, cool, thank you.
OK. But I don't.
It's just things. Yeah, it's not important you.
Know, and I've been thinking a lot about that like scene where
you know, Brad Pitt and Fight Club, he's like, you know, I
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mean, of course it comes from the book, but he's like, you
know, you're not your cars, you're not your khakis, you're
not your apartment, you're not your money, you're nothing.
And I think that's that why I'vereally been so hold towards
Christ in that way, you know, reading a lot is because I feel
that like when you read those stories, it's all about complete
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sacrifice, completes a giving yourself to everyone, not just
to a few people, everyone and yet threatened with death,
killed, flayed, crucified upsidedown, like all this horrible
shit happened to him and they were happy all the way up to the
end. They were, they accepted it
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because they knew that this isn't, this isn't real.
This isn't real. The feelings that we share with
one another, that connection, that's real because it's that
feeling you get when you see that person and you're happy.
Like when we see each other, well, we get happy.
We give a big happy, yeah, real happy because there's there's
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meaning there. It doesn't mean because, oh, you
can provide for me or you can protect me.
It's just it that's where I believe like the soul really
that's a real thing because whenyou connect with somebody, it's
unexplainable on a completely different and I get really out
there. Thank you.
Is almost on a quantum level because it's you can't see it,
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but it impacts you. Oh, deeply, yeah.
It makes you so happy. Or it can completely destroy
you. Yeah, like nothing.
Else that's what I realized in my, my most depressed, anxious,
sad moments when my kids were across the country and I was
sitting in the front room and looking around and I was like, I
am just sitting in this anxious,depressed, lonely box.
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And I looked at the front room as literally just a box.
And I'm like, and it wouldn't matter if I'm in this box or a
bigger box or a smaller box or abox that smells different or box
it has different furnishings in it.
I would still be sad and lonely and depressed because it doesn't
actually matter what shit I haveof surrounding me because I'm
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still sad and lonely and depressed.
And in that moment Addie called me and I was instantly
overwhelmed with love and happiness and joy.
And I was still in that same boxthat a moment ago held sadness,
loneliness and depression, was overwhelmed with love, happiness
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and joy instantly because of a thought change, because I went
from thinking about what I didn't have to thinking about.
I'm sharing this second, this moment, even on FaceTime, a call
with someone I love, care about truly more than anything.
And that instantly changed all of it.
And it was like all of this stuff, all these things, none of
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that matters. None of it is valuable.
At the end of the day, it it really holds no valuable.
I could be crying my eyes out ina Mercedes-Benz, in a in a
Bentley like Atom, in a shitty broken down Honda.
Doesn't matter. Like it really doesn't matter
because at the end of the day, that feeling, all of that, that
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vehicle, that box that I'm sitting containing, it's just
the thing doesn't change anything at the end of the day.
No, dude, it's like this guy I work with, like he, he asked me
if that was my car and I said yeah, it's my Acura.
He goes, oh, he's like, I thought you would drive
something nicer. And I said, what gives you that
impression? He's like, well, I don't know,
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dude. He's like, I you're very
professional, but you're fun to talk.
He's like, he's like, you're weird because I'm, I'm like, I
could talk to you about businessstuff for hours and I don't find
it fascinating. He's like, but you just make it
the conversation roll. And I said, yeah, it's on
purpose. I've learned to do that.
And he's like, yeah. And I said, but was my car have
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anything to do with that? And he goes, I don't know.
And I said, is that your Tesla? And he goes, yeah.
And I said, cool, did you pay for the self drive?
He goes, no, it's like 8 grand. And I said, then why did you get
it? Yeah, like, honestly, like, only
thing I thought about while I'vebeen on the road a lot lately,
like I've been stuck in traffic for an hour and a half.
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Yeah, and that's time you could get back to learn or do
something that's like Bennett, when we wrote with Bennett and
he's like, I just got like 30 minutes of stretching in on the
way here. And I was like, wait, what?
Yeah, that is worth 8000. Dollars and I was like OK, but
for the lifetime it's not per year, it's like you pay 8 grand
and then it's unlocked. So I could do that and.
Why not if you're buying a? Towers a year, are you fucking
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spending and traffic commuting? Yeah, get your time back.
Like, what could? And that's what I thought about
like, man, what could I learn? What could I do if I wasn't
having to be so invested on I gotta make sure I'm not gonna
hit someone or or I gotta like especially in rush hour that
would have the value if I could do that.
But 100% I have zero care 0 desire to Oh no no drive one or
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Nope or have it because. But if I'm on the road, I was
like, that was the only time where I was like, yeah, I'd buy
that. But when this guy doesn't have
that, I'm like, but why not? And and I get it, it it's
expensive. So then I have to argue.
I'm like, he's like, yeah, I saved this much on gas and I'm
like, yeah. And I'm not saying like, oh,
you're pulling off the grid or anything like that.
But no, I mean, it's still an expensive car.
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Yes, it's a very expensive car. And that's where I'm at where
I'm like, you know, what do I need that?
No, Would I would I like to havethat kind of not something that
I really. Think would certain things about
it. I would rather get an accurate
TLX like from 2018 to to now. There's a couple shitty ones in
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between that but but I mean, I just.
Like on that diesel Beamer, 8090miles a gallon and it still goes
like. I like the speed and I like the
look just because I like it. I think of myself because I'm an
80s kid and I'm thinking of all those movies like guys flying
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jets and shit and they're. 16. Like that shit ain't happening.
Get the fuck out of here. But I mean, it's, it's those
things like I, I still think like that.
So it's nostalgic for me. And that's why I would like
something. OK.
I don't need a Ferrari. Oh God, no.
Like I saw some chick that I know on LinkedIn and she posted
a picture of her buying a Porsche.
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OK, that's cool. That's like.
Yeah, that is cool. But at the same time, like there
was this whole story about striving and growing and and
that as your goal, which is great if if a vehicle is really
there. But you know what?
Like it's like getting a shit load of money right at once.
Like the most money you've ever got in one little small period
of time all at once in a lump sum is an amazing feeling.
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But it has about the staying power of a fart.
Yeah, and. Then you're back to who you are.
You didn't change. Nothing's changed.
And in fact, so your, your spending habits didn't change,
your money management hasn't changed like nothing within the
lack thereof, your habits haven't changed.
And so usually it's like, OK, well, a big lump sum.
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Oh my God. OK, well, and then again,
because no habits or things havechanged, nothing, nothing truly
changes. No, like that's why we see
people who win the lottery and then you go back and it's like,
well, they're poor as fuck somehow.
Like how are they? And it's because they have
nothing's changed. Nothing has changed.
They're the exact same person, but now they've just got an
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instant lump of sum or recurringlump of sum and they're still
that same exact person. And so the problem is that
person who never was able to store earn, save is but in that
same mindset. Where does it come from?
Typically man, and it is the, it's the learning.
It's the learning of of what happens, not just life, but
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about connection. Because when you make deeper
connections with other people, you're more cognizant of their
life. You want them to like a business
owner may be seen to many peopleas a complete piece of shit
because he has millions of dollars or this person, how many
people does he employ? Well, he employs like 700,000
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people. How many families are that?
Yeah. And then they provide benefits
and all these other things. Does that affect seriously?
And you're going, OK, well, yeah, they started this and you
might be pissed because look howmuch money they've got, but then
you look at it and you're like, but then look how many families
they're helping some, some. And then I mean, obviously some
are still helping anyway becauseotherwise their company wouldn't
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exist. Well, as.
I mean you, you're gonna grow your company based on the people
that you get and keep and, and the trend is for like 9 months
to like a year and a half and then you quit and move on to the
next job. Well, cause no companies like
here is a pension and a retirement and we want to take
care of you. We want you here until you
retire because we value you and we see that value.
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And so we because no pension exists.
No. Well, I mean and.
It's not that retirement fantasythat was always promised or
like, oh, you could get this, but.
That's the thing too. Like, I think that's what rotted
the minds of the boomers was retirement.
Because what happened to most ofthem when they retire, they
don't know what to do and eitherthey just go on weird spending
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sprees or they go on vacations because that's what you're
supposed to do. But they're not fulfilled by
that. And so they find themselves less
fulfilled because there's a purpose you have.
And honestly, I always think like, well, if I was in a place
of great fortune, not overwhelming like fame or
something like that, I don't want ever that.
But it's something where I can feel like I can contribute not
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just money, but it's also my time, my connections.
If I make enough connections in my life and I'm somebody's
trying to start a business and Ican help them like save five
years saying, hey, talk to thesepeople and not even have like a
vested interest into it going, hey, yeah.
And if you get there, give me 5%of it.
Like I don't even need to ask for it.
I just do it because it's. Just to help them, it's what
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could you do? And usually it's people you like
because that's why you're connecting them is, hey, I like
something about you, what connection we built, whatever
here it is. And I want to see you succeed.
And I think there might be something I can do, whether
that's connecting with your friend, giving you some insight,
even a fucking book, like there might be something I can do that
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could give value. It doesn't mean that there has
to be anything that comes back. It's just that I valued that
connection and I would like to see you flourish, whatever that
looks like. It comes back, man, Like, do you
know anybody who's like, really kind, very generous and always
just like happy to be around that struggles?
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It's a rarity like like Greg, Greg Wimmer.
Oh, OK. He's got, I mean, they've had
their struggles and their familyfor sure, like every family.
But you know, one thing I've always appreciated about him is
that no matter what, he wants everybody around him to feel
comfortable. Yeah.
And that I resonate because that's how I am.
I want you to all be comfortable.
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Like if somebody doesn't like me, I used to hyper fixate on
it. Like I was telling you about
that woman at my work who's justlike, she clearly doesn't like
me. Like I'm just like, OK.
And I tried to talk like I was trying to get to know my boss.
So I'm asking him questions. We're serving over at the Humane
Society. This company is so cool.
They just they force you to do humanitarian.
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I'm like, that's awesome. It's you know, it counts against
you. There's no like you don't you
have to be sick and they're likeyou have to go and they do it
right in the middle of the work day.
So you that's cool though. 4 hours and go do this.
I've actually found that going and helping do things like
that's been it just feels good, like impactful to your soul,
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because even like the service project in Mexico is still
probably one of the most impactful moments.
I think that shaped my life and that have really just made me
want to help anyone, not becausethey have anything they can give
or do for me, but because they exist because they're there and
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because maybe in some way there's something I could do
that could help them and that's it.
And it's it was like that was a whole different mind shift of
something because growing up in a very judge mental critical
culture and society was. Which is funny too, because I
mean, it's so centered on at least the the name brand on the
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outside is Christ. And but it's not that way.
It's judgement. It's it's constant like keeping
up with the Joneses. Like I saw this thing where
there was a comment about Utah Mormons and they go the outside
people that I've never heard this before.
Maybe you have, but they said that you realize how far some of
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them are away from Christ when you look at their homes.
Yeah. And I was like, they go so big
and lavish, not how they were perceived as Mormons in their
state. Yeah.
And so it's like it's well. It's because look at what God
has given me. But like, so much.
And God wants me to have this estate that looks so gaudy and
(54:12):
lavish and over the top that no real human ever honestly fucking
needs. But yet we do have quite a few
homes like that here. If you could build a mansion, I
would make that like a place forentrepreneurs to live.
Like honestly, like I'm like youguys share this house, this is
rent, It's reasonable, everything's included, but all I
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want is whatever ideas you have,I want 2%.
That's it. You get to live here, but I want
2% I. Didn't do it.
That'd be a. Kick ass place, no camera set up
right, no real world bullshit. It should be creepy just like
you know, cuz some people would say like how can we profit off
of every little thing? Like that's what I would want to
do. How do you monetize that?
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How do you like throw cameras inthere?
Make it weird. Let's script it out.
How do you monetize it? You let these guys create
something that nobody else watches.
I think that's one of the big things that stifles innovation
now is that everything is sharedalong the way.
Why can't I build in peace and then release it?
When I saw this interview of theguys who made Robin Hood, one of
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the founders, he went from college campus to college campus
to college campus giving this software away.
He would say, hey, I want you totry it because nobody was able
to ever get into the stock market unless they had a broker
or he had your Series 7. So these he he wanted to make it
open for everybody. They all thought it was going to
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be stupid, but the the place he was trying to sell it was Wall
Street, and instead he found it on college campuses.
Yeah, I was like, you can't sellthat to Wall Street.
Wall Street's where they actually trade.
He's so wealthy now, but he doesn't act like it.
His favorite thing to do is findold cars.
He's like, there was a romance with cars and it it goes back to
innovation. These things were created and
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they didn't have to be shared with everybody.
You create it in the dark and then you release it.
That today is like when people get a surprise drop of a video
game, everybody go, yeah, they lose their shit because why?
We live in a world of expectation of, yeah, it'll be
released and the whole series will be out and I'll watch.
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It because we've got the trailers, we've got teasers,
we've got everything we've got amillion ads for.
Just teasers dude. That's what they should do for
all movies because even if it's shitty, at least she didn't have
any expectations, right? Like I'm looking at you Vin
Diesel, right? Like all your movies fucking
suck now dude. Like I don't want to watch Fast
movies, they're so stupid. Emily asked me.
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She was like, oh, there was thisfast movie and because it was on
at the gym in the theater room, they have.
And she was like, oh, there's this fast one had this.
I'm like, who the fuck what thatwas in there?
And she's like, you haven't seenthat.
I'm like, I stopped watching them after like 5.
Do you know they're Paul Walker,whatever died.
And it was like, all right. And even before then, it kind of
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like the first one was good. The second was fine.
Tokyo Drift was like, why this didn't make sense with the
story. And then four, they kind of
brought it back in, or four or five they brought back in how
that played into it. Or maybe 5 was where Paul Walker
died, I don't remember. But it was kind of like, all
right, I'm good. I think I'm done.
You guys have played it out. It's like land before time.
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We got 37 of them now or something like and he move on.
He. Keeps he keeps dropping Pauls
and they, you know, Pablo and wehave Pablo here today.
He'd be so happy and proud, like, no, he's dead and he's in
a different realm and he doesn'teven know what's going on.
Movies back. Why would they?
But that's the creepy thing, dude.
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They put his face on it and there's just like.
Paul Walkers face on it. Yeah, well, dude, like Bruce
Willis, I think he saw before hewent into the he sold the rights
to be able to make use his likeness cause.
Bruce Willis and then he sees dead people.
And so that's how Paul Walker was able to be on there.
Ohh no. Why is it cold?
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But I mean, it's this man that was such a good.
It still is a good movie. Dude that's so crazy.
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How's your headspace this morning, man?
Dude, my headspace is good. Dude, we'll get this papaya cake
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that we reviewed and it's in ourtop five strains.
Oh my God, yeah. I of all time, I don't know
where in the top five 'cause it's it's fighting in my head
right now. I don't know either.
But I still do. You have the top one of all
time. Top five strains that I'd like
to smoke. That's where we're gonna go.
Yeah. Yeah.
I don't think it the numerical order.
They just fit in there. Like if any of these five are
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available, I'll smoke them. If you know what it is, I'll
smoke it. I'll smoke a dirty disti of
this. That's how much I like this just
to try it. Yeah, because this strain is
like, we just had this really indepth conversation that
unfortunately you will not be able to participate in.
But it was it's a good conversation.
And it kind of went back into, you know, hell.
Of a chatty strain. It is.
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It's a very good strain, which is awesome because we can talk
about, you know, where we're at right now, man.
And you know, I've been really curious and I do appreciate we
had an audience member so bold of you.
You just said like, hey, Jesse, you fucking talk to us,
Chatterbox. And Brandon, you don't talk
enough. So I'm very aware of it.
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Sometimes strains get crazy and they just grab a hold of you.
And sometimes I'm a quieter person than Jesse.
Yeah, no, sometimes when he justsmokes, he just and when he
needs to jump in, he jumps in And I'm getting way better at
because I'm I'm, I'm way more aware of myself and and I've had
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this fantastic new beginning with this job.
It's awesome. It doesn't get in the way of
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I mean for all you kinky people fake pee, think of all the cool
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It's worth 200,000. How?
Much. Do you make a year?
Yeah. When you think about it and
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It'll stay that warm for 8 hours.
Just don't put the heating pad skin.
Yeah, I saw this thing guys, do not put on the pad.
I repeat, do not put it like. That was more hot coffee on my
lap. I think all the bad reviews were
guys who were really high and they tried it out.
Do not insert penis into toaster.
Yeah, like, Oh no, it's biting me.
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How Really. What's going on?
Yeah, he must have been really high.
Oh those guys like all the reviews are like 3 words.
Yeah, it probably wasn't cannabis that they were using.
That's why they. No that was definitely fentanyl
anyway. Got the fentanyl lean and
everything. The fentanyl lean it's.
Like I'll do lean, I'll tell youthat that that's that's really
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fucked up. But I mean at the same time dude
I saw this guy like I was getting out of in my office this
last week and he was doing the fent lean and I was so sad.
He looked like the inflatable arm dude walking down the
street. I just want to play like Fat
Joe's lean back. Yeah, dude, because he is.
And I felt so bad for like, I'm like, fuck dude, why don't you
(04:39):
smoke AJ? What has life got to be like
that you get to fentanyl? Like, I mean, I guess medically
my grandma got to that for chronic migraines.
Like they prescribed that? But people just want to feel
better. For everyday person out on the
streets like that just seems shitty.
You know shit my. Water.
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Oh, yeah? Yeah.
Hey, you're OK. You stay in there.
It's OK, baby. We'll be right there again.
Nick loves your dog. By the way.
It was just like, he's got to come see her.
She's a sweetie. Oh yeah, she's like.
Yeah, but people, they get into it, I think for a lot of the
people are hurting both inside and out.
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And you know, there's Did you ever pop pills?
Yes. Were like lower tabs and shit
like that lower tabs. And yeah lower tab Percocet and
Oxys because I had a large largehundreds of them collection and
when I knocked doors for Vivint everyday I would pop two to
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three of them and drink a 5 hourenergy or a monster and go knock
doors. Man, I bet you felt really
focused. It was a weird sensation and
honestly. Like no pain and just feeling
kind of floaty. Yeah.
But even back then, I still had like, back pain.
I've had like chronic back pain since I was 10 maybe Yeah.
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So I don't know, but I. The Brokeback bitch did did.
You ever pop pills? Oh yeah.
Oh. Yeah, I we had a.
It's one of my favorite things to do to clean.
I pop a couple 5-7 point fives or I pop A10.
I try to keep it low because it,it would kill my guts after
time. And whenever I would get one,
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like, you know, really used to worry my wife because I would,
she was like, where'd you go to the doctor for?
I hurt my knee. I didn't hurt my knee.
Fucking wanted some. I wanted some pills because you
know, at this point in my life Iwas really ashamed of where we
were at. Again, dude, before I met my
wife, I did. I had no desire to do anything.
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Nothing. I wanted to work at a mental
hospital, show up, leave, go home, drink, fall asleep.
Did you ever think you would getmarried like younger you?
Not as young as I did. I mean, I got married at 26.
I. Imagine myself like when I was
18, I pictured myself being old,living in an apartment, being
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single like I didn't imagine me getting married I.
Wanted to get married around like 30.
At least that's what I thought. Not that I didn't want to, no, I
just women were always. Oh, I always wanted to get
married. Oh, I wanted.
Interesting. And relationships always ended
up going interesting ways. And so by the time I was that
age, I was like, yeah, I don't, I don't know if I'll ever get
(07:30):
married. Like maybe I'll just work and
have like my own place and do myown thing and then.
Bring some gentleman callers over.
No, no, it's just like, I never,yeah, just kind of changed.
And then life happens. Life does happen dude, and
that's oh shit, I lost Rosa to talk about where were we got.
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Life right now, but. Yeah, no, man, but I, you know.
Sorts of places. I know.
I really love this strain. The thing that I've been
thinking about lately, though, man is like how we perceive we
it's what was it? Dude, I had this whole analogy
while I was driving. It was such a good strain.
I smoked in in the in the parking lot before I I took off
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onto the road and I didn't listen to any music and I just
listened to the traffic and where I was at and tried to zone
out everything and just focus onmy being a present but being
somewhere else at the same time.Weird concept, but there's a
(08:33):
show called Hannibal. Collector.
Like that, yeah, it's about him.But they use, it's like a
different setting and a different.
Yeah, it's a good show. That's a great.
Show, you know, the guy, the FBIguy, the professor, who will he.
Yeah, he will like he will recreate the crime.
Yes, as he is doing it yeah. And that's kind of what I I love
(08:53):
that concept. So I was like, you know, can I
put myself in this mindset of contemplation and this trucker
needed to get into the lane and I was just like.
And so many people are just like, no, I need to get up there
first. And I just slowed way down.
And I just, you know, just waving in there and he goes in
(09:16):
and then I start driving as I'm passing by.
He just, he really appreciated that.
And I started thinking the concept, we don't all need to be
there first, right? We've got this concept in our
mind that we have to be there first.
I've got to be there now. And it doesn't just go with
driving. It goes with everything.
I think of people who sell, theygot to sell now they're so
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desperate on the phone going, hi, I'm Jesse.
I'm with XYZ company and I provide this type of service and
I could do all these things for you.
And if you just let me to come over there and I'll be the
lowest predator and that's how you feel.
And it's you got to be there first.
What the fuck? Why do we all feel like that?
Why can't I just be? I have been focusing on being
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such a kind person on the road because I've never been in a
wreck, I've never caused a wreckand I've I've been in two wrecks
that weren't my fault. OK.
And so like I've been in. You've been in some hairy shit.
I've been in so many accidents. Yeah, dude, like you and Emily
when you guys got hit out. Here she bone randomly on
that's. Crazy you.
(10:20):
He was on your side, wasn't it? No, her side.
I was on a She's still hurt. Yeah, I think both of us do up
our spine. Did you run a zoom call?
I was on a zoom. I bet people still talk about
that. I was like legit on a call, like
Zoom had my laptop, had my phoneout, and I glance over right as
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she's just about to hit us. I always notice right before I'm
about to get hit when I was on the phone with you in the winter
and I'm like, oh bro, hey, I've got to go.
And you're like, what, Mike? Yeah, I'm about to get in a car
accident. You're like, what, Mike?
Yeah, I'm about to get rear-ended.
And like I was at a stop light and was in the going straight
line and I look at this van, I'mlooking at a rear viewer and
(11:03):
like this van is not slowing down.
This van is not slowing down. So I have enough room in front
of me that I can try and get to the center lane, the turning
lane out of their way. So I even start to move to get
out of the way. He still fucking hits me.
Was he not slowing down? Wasn't paying attention, wasn't
slowing down like this. Shit happens all the I mean, not
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all the time. Yeah, it's like that in cops had
it's like that in cops with you because, you know, I have a
completely different sentiment for cops, you know, am I happy
they pulled me over? Fuck no.
I did something or they, but I've never had the I've only no,
I'll take that back. I had one.
I barely moved to Provo, Right. We moved in with Terry, OK.
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And I got pulled over like 75 yards away from my house.
I could see my house. Yeah.
Cops are grilling me. He goes, you know, I pulled you
over. I said, honestly, I don't know,
Kind of did rolling stop back there?
I said, I apologize, Officer didn't even see that I
apologize. I think I was just so focused on
getting home. Oh, yeah.
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Where's home? I just moved right over here
now, what's your address? I don't even memorize.
I, I honestly can't remember. And he goes, really, because
your ID shows something else AndI'm like, he goes, hold on a
second, just moved. He goes back to his car, comes
back out and he's heated, got his hand on his gun and he goes,
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you didn't tell me you had a carry, a concealed carry permit.
And I'm like, I don't have my weapon on me and I don't need to
divulge that unless I'm carryingmy weapon.
And he goes, so you don't know your address?
I'm like, I just moved here. I just moved here.
I know my memory of turn here, turn there.
He's like, all right. And then he goes, I'll let you
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go right now. He's like, don't do that again,
OK. And then I drove home and he
waited. Then he pulled out in front of
the house. Of course he did.
I just stood there and I'm like,what the fuck, dude?
What the fuck? And.
I would have gotten his badge number called the.
No, but that's the thing. Like I've only had that happen
like the other one was because my father-in-law made me a
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suspect into some dog murder. Father in law's a retard.
He's a fucking Terry. Terry, I know you're my uncle,
but you're a fucking retard. Yeah, dude, you're you're not
the. Piece of shit dude, but.
He never would. But if anybody does around him,
I think he lives in Alabama or something like that.
He moved far away from here. He burned too many bridges.
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But anyways, yeah, dude, it's I've been thinking about like,
why do we always feel like we got to be first?
I don't. Know.
Like money wise, like I got to have money.
Like I love that quote from Jerry Seinfeld.
He's like the. Reason why I want money is to be
able to take care of my family and others. 100% But that's the
thing. Like, it used to be like, like
I, I think I told you about thatquote where Jerry Seinfeld was
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being interviewed and he's like,whatever happened?
Why, why was why is it all aboutmoney now?
He's all back in the day, it wasyour job.
Yeah. If you had a cool job, you had a
cool job. Like nobody looked down on you
If you were a garbage man, nobody looked down.
If you were the post man, yeah. No one gave a shit.
No, everybody was just. Like how much money do you make?
What's your income? We do well.
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That's all that people would say.
We do well. Now all of a sudden we've added
dollars and cents as value of you as a person in society.
Yeah, no more has put that into my head, except for when we did
that one episode that we have taken off, which you will never
find. I saw him on another podcast.
I believe it. It was a guy and and the
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introduction was basically this billionaire.
And and I think about that and I'm like, it's so stupid to ever
be introduced. Is here's the dollar amount that
I hold. Here's the dollar amount.
Here's my how much mine? Even the way you felt when you
first met him, like you're like,whoa, dude, this is crazy
(14:59):
because and I my. Mind, I'd never met someone
who'd it made that much money. Right.
But I mean, but I understand because of your upbringing,
money was extremely, extremely important.
Very valued. Very.
Yeah. My grandpa was keeping up with
the Joneses. Or it was keeping up with
grandpa. Yeah, You know.
On TV, I do have that. And then you had the other side.
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It was like extremely conservative.
Extremely for like frugal had all the money but had no desire
to spend. It looked like they lived in
squalor. Yeah, I mean, he got a.
It was so funny when when your mom and her sisters got him a
new fridge, he was pissed. He was like, I don't need that.
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And like, the other one broke. And then I came over and he
goes, well, they didn't need to do that.
And I'm like, yeah, I mean, we just throw them in coolers.
Yeah, plus God needs your money anyway, so you better save it.
I mean, you know, and I, that's the one thing I after I really
respected. I'm like, that actually is a
valuable lesson if you look at it from a different point, a
point of view, he says. You know what my last gift to
you guys is? To let you know that our love is
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more important than any money I could ever leave you.
So that's why I'm not giving it to you.
Do you? Feel like there was a lot of
love in the in that. No, towards the end, I think.
From him, yes, he realized at the end.
That he could have spent more time with his kids.
He could have loved them more. He could have told him he loved.
He would tell me that all the time when he would come over,
we'd have him over for dinner often.
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Yeah. And.
Grandpa after grandma passed, yeah, was a different person.
Totally was, you know, on on herway out.
The senility was skipping over into him too.
He was getting really bad. It's because it's hard when
that's all year round and that'swhat you're.
Oh, it's just nonsense. And then it's whatever form of
love or that that they shared, that's what he knew.
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And that was going away after 50years, like forever.
I I can imagine that's hard on any level, you know?
Absolutely. So and that's the difficult part
in any setting. You're always trying to see it
from, well, how should I be? I think what's great now is that
our children right now, for a lot of people around our age,
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we've, we've become a little bitmore cognizant of our actions in
the past of being like, not, notlike, oh, I'm sorry I didn't
call you by whatever the fuck you want me to call you, but
just because you treat them likea good person.
Like I know a lot of people today don't like hearing it, but
dude, I grew up colorblind. I didn't care if people were
black or brown or Asian. There wasn't a lot of black
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kids, but like, there was NativeAmericans, Hispanics, like.
I grew up with Thailander, a lotof Islanders.
And so they were just people. It was the same as anyone else,
the the people in my, my ward orwhatever.
There was all sorts of differentpeople and yet no one was any
better or worse or, or different.
It was like, OK, they live here.Their last name's this.
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They live here. Their last name's that like.
How do you how do you say that last name?
Yeah, I have no fucking clue. That's it.
Like that's all it came down to there.
Was nothing different about them.
Did Nope make me any better or them any better or or worse or
different. It was just like OK this is this
person, this is this person. We're all the same, like squeezy
paste come out. We're just, you know.
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Meet. Different paint on it.
But that's the thing, I think it's that again, it goes back to
that concept of why do I need tobe first?
Like is there really a like whenI let people in when?
Ego gets a. Normal 100% your ego is and and
I I was contemplating this with chat one time I was really high
I mean. Papaya cake kind of high.
Oh, dude, no, I I want to get like really high on this and
(18:39):
then just contemplate. But we the ego is not
necessarily a negative thing. It is a protective thing.
It can it, it creates this armorfor us and that's this really
good book. I don't know if you've you've
listened to it the altered ego effect.
Yeah. I love that I I started going
through it again and it makes way more sense and I'm actually
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applying it at work. Oh, it's cool.
I have Lightning McQueen. He's one of my alter egos and
when I touch him I activate Lightning McQueen in my mind of
what is my focus and Lightning McQueen is fast and he wins and
he does everything he needs to do but he is focused on the day
and I use that for calls. I'm just like, that's a there.
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And then when I'm in learning and in sales mode, I have my
Funko Pop, John Wick. He knows what to do all the
time. He's super calm all the time.
He never loses his temper. He's just surgical.
He knows everything to do. He knows how to do sign language
and speaking languages. Like, what the fuck was this
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Renaissance man who kills people, right?
Yeah, but that's when I'm in that mode.
I do that. I'm not like 100% serious.
I'm just very aware and use all of what I have.
And it was really cool because when I'm there and I'm like, I
feel I'd get distracted because it's this ego thing in my head
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going, hey, we could do all these other fun things, right?
Like when you when you work fromhome, it's difficult not to come
in And like especially today where you don't feel it, you
want to go play games. Yeah, I have to.
If there's certain days where I'm like, fuck, what am I doing
today? I don't have editing.
I don't have social content creation.
I don't have scripting for that.I don't have like, OK, I have
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some emails, but realistically, how much time is it to send back
the emails? Like, I've got a lot of time on
my day, So what the fuck am I going to do?
And I'm like, but I don't want to watch a show.
I don't want to play a video game because like, so then I'm
like, OK, what do I work on? So then I find something else to
work on or do because yeah, I, I, I just can't, I can't sit
down that early in my mind's like, because even growing up,
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even on Saturdays, we couldn't play with friends before noon.
Morning time was you get up, youclean, you do your chores, you
read, practice piano color in a coloring book.
Did they make you do like scripture study and shit?
No, just read every day for at least 30 minutes.
Do your chores, practice piano for at least 30 minutes.
And then when we were super little, we had to color in a
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coloring book. But if it was I was head of the
lines too much or too much mess,we had to redo it because that
was rushed and. My mom hit you.
No, but she'd be like, you're going to be there.
But the outside thought your momwould do probably.
Yeah, I was surprised how many people were afraid of my mom,
but she wouldn't. She's a tiny little thing.
She'd be like, Oh well, tell your dad when he gets home.
Yeah, that would get my butt whooped.
So my mom, not afraid of her, just afraid of who she'll tell.
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Yeah, it's funny, man. Like we had this like concept
now and and this one guy had kind of said it.
And I was like, yeah, like, I know that there's, you know,
here, here's where I go in succession, right?
And I can only go so far becausethen I don't fucking know what's
going on for us. But the boomer generation
screwed the Gen. Xers because they purposely
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built massive ways to be financially OK, but nobody would
be OK after that after they're gone.
And this one guy is like, you know what?
Fuck them. And how they are the ones that
did really well in that generation, who are complaining
about the generation now. This is what they came from.
This is what the conversation stem from.
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Because they're just like, well,fuck those guys.
They're, they're horrible peopleanyways.
They complain endlessly. They're constantly saying like,
well, what about this? Like, they grew up during a time
that was very plentiful. Like, very plentiful from after
World War 2 all the way up untillike early 2000s.
The only time that was surprising, that kind of shocked
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me was when there was the the gas rations and food rations and
stuff. Yeah, 'cause I just learned that
my grandpa traded stuff for likegas rations so he could take his
family on a trip to California. I was like who fucks taking
trips? Like, yeah, rich people, because
they don't realize. Well, because then, I mean, it
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wouldn't matter if you're rich or not.
It's like, this is the days thatyou can go and here's your
ration card. Yeah, like you can't, you can't
just go. You still had to pay for it.
And and the gas was high then, too.
And people would be in line for hours.
All day. Yeah, and it it's, it was
insane, right? Can you?
Imagine spending your entire daywaiting in line just to fill up
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your car. But that's the thing.
Like, I think that a lot of people forget that these times
will constantly cyclically come back.
Like almost every decade we are going to have some type of
financial issues. And it's because we we don't
learn, right? It's like an addict.
We just say, you know what, I'm good, I'm done.
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I don't want to do it anymore. And then somebody comes by going
just, you know, you come out like Joey Diaz, come on, come
on. Brandon Elder.
Come on, one more bump. Come on, let's do this.
One more ducky death. Sorry, yeah, let's do this.
Come on, let's snort this line. Let's go out there and get some
horse. I mean, it's it's, I don't know,
man. It's just changed.
And my generation fucked over the other ones because we helped
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build out this technology, started it out like on the, on
the commercial side and people started making crazy money and
it screwed people over because all of a sudden now they're all
focused on possessions and things and those possessions,
how much that cost. And I mean, now we, we celebrate
people like the Paul brothers and name your social media
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person. You're like, why is that person
a millionaire? Why is PewDiePie a millionaire?
I have no idea. Yeah, 'cause it could be
beautiful, bad. Like he's funny kind of
sometimes, but a millionaire. Isn't everyone?
Isn't everyone kind of funny? Sometimes, yeah, absolutely.
Like there are people that are just like really gifted up being
funny some. People are fucking funny.
Yeah, yeah, all the time. But but everyone's funny
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sometimes. Right.
Like, yeah. And if you catch that.
Moment and somehow it got blown like they're.
What? Yeah, but be back then, dude,
back during when I was growing up, I, I gotta be able.
I was fortunate enough to be able to dovetail off of that
generation of hard working, you know, very entrepreneurial
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mindset and, and travelling likemy dad is the only one from his
family that sought to come to America, got his visa, worked
his ass off, learned the language and got his citizenship
the right way. And he used to love this
country, used to love this country.
And. But he was the only one to do
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it. Yeah, right.
Nobody in there. They were all like.
And then it was kind of weird because he gets here and he
turns into a conformist. I'm thinking I'm going to hit
that again, too. Yeah.
Anyways, I long tangent over there.
I had to go pee. But I've just been trying to
think about how I'm being more present for not others, but for
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all those around me and being more.
I mean, I won't go deep into the, the Christianity thing, but
you know, being more like who I,I am, I, I love, I, I love the
idea of Christ. I love the, the concept of
Christ. I love, I love that, you know,
the Trinity and all that stuff. They, it makes a lot of sense to
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me, but I feel closer to that when I act this way.
I, I don't look at like there's a woman I work with now and she
straight up does not like me. I don't know what the fuck I
did, but she does not like me and I haven't.
Maybe it's just something about me, right?
Maybe she thinks that we're too tight of T-shirts or some shit
like that. But.
And I don't give a shit. Like this is like, what?
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I just felt bad. I was like, oh, and all I
thought was like, you know, at first I was like, what's this
bitch thinking? And then it quickly my mind
goes, yeah, well, you know what?Maybe maybe you remind her of
somebody, or maybe she's just that's true.
Maybe she's just a bitch, like she doesn't know she's just a
bitch. She's always been that way,
like, and, and maybe that's justwho she is.
Maybe that's her culture and that's why I put it in my mind.
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And I'm like, yeah, that's her culture.
So I'm like, I'm just, yeah, whatever, you know, Because now
I start thinking of like, if people are assholes, I'm like,
yeah, it's just your culture. Because then now I have to
respect the culture and I go, well, they're not offending me.
And then thus I don't, I don't feel upset about it.
I just go, wow, that's unfortunate.
Like guys, I, I work. Well, I heard a couple of them
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making sales calls, and the guy felt so uncomfortable.
And I said, hey, does that feel uncomfortable?
And he goes, yeah. And I said, think about the
other person on the other line. Right.
Yeah. Now you feel they're
uncomfortable too. Yep.
And he goes, well, how do you get rid of it?
And I'm like, just pretend. Or you address it, you know,
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Damn, feels kind of awkward, doesn't it?
Yeah, yeah, it does. And you're like cuz once you air
that out then the instant is like.
You become human. Shit.
OK. And they become human.
I would rather get on the phone going.
Hey, I'm really sorry. I'm so nervous.
I called you today. I just really don't want to make
you upset with me. Is that OK?
Yeah. They would probably be like,
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what do you, what do you, what can I help you with?
Like, they're gonna be more opento you.
And so I just thought about like, if, if I'm more aware of
people around me and thinking like, what I mean, it doesn't
mean like if, if you got to go to work, you got to go to work.
Like if somebody's starting shit, like, am I just going to
be all passive and turn the other cheek?
Probably not, probably not. I'm going to dump your ass in
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the dirt. But I, I think more in line
going, Hey, we don't need to getthere because I feel so good,
not because I got this job. I think I got this job because
of that. Like dude, I referred somebody
to them and I was like, that guywill get it.
That guy's way better than me. Oh yeah, you're telling me that?
And they and I asked him and I was like, well, why didn't you
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pick that guy? And he's like, perceived value,
the vibe, Well, the perceived value, I need to be here versus
like, let's see what we do, Yeah, see what happens.
Yeah, I need to make. This versus like, oh, I need to
be here and not just like here, but I need to be here.
And they're like, well, we don'tknow what you can do.
You've got a paper, but like, wedon't know who you are.
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Well, and especially when you, when you put a monetary value
and I think it's a, it's a bait question.
I've realized that now when theyask you what do you need to make
that is that's, that's a red flag for you.
They're purposely throwing up there because they want to see,
are you going to undervalue yourself or are you going to
overvalue yourself? Because it's like in that book,
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Chris Voss's never split the difference.
He has this story about this kidgraduates college and he's going
to be working at this financial company and he wish he took the
class before because he told them I won't take anything less
than 110,000. And they said no problem.
And then he found out that everybody starts at 135 and it's
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like, don't. Shoot yourself in the foot.
Well, it, it, this is a concept I learned in Sandler training
was don't spill your candy in the lobby.
What it means is don't, don't show everything right away.
Relax it. He's like he, he equated it to
when he was a little kid becausehe grew up like in the 50s.
And you know, he's all excited. He's got his popcorn and his
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candy and his drink, and he's running in the theater and
doesn't notice there's this bulge in the carpet and he trips
and falls over it and spills it everywhere because he was such
in a rush to get where he wantedto go.
Yeah, I need the sale. I need the friendship.
I need a date, whatever it is. But when in the past has the
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overly aggressive, throw up in your face type of approach
really worked in dating sales any of that relationship?
Yeah, like pick up artist yeah, who who looks like Oh yeah, if
you say this, she's she's instantly.
She's like, Oh my God, squish. Take Me Home.
Squish. No.
Nope, Nope, never works. That's all fantasy.
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And and I mean, it's like this. There's this really cool guy
that I follow something Fritz. He goes, he goes, my name is
Fritz and I'm autistic and he hesays the funniest shit dude, and
he's just, you know, what was cool is that he just.
He calls it out and he just. Well, dude, lean into your
weird, yeah? Exactly.
Like when people ask me at work,what are you into?
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I hate when people in in the business world go, well, you
know, I'm into biking, golf, youfucking boring dude.
And they go, what do you do? And I'm like, I'm really into
video games and I like playing with best friend.
We race, we do shooters. I like RPGs, I like if you.
Guys have ready or not let us know yeah send us a message
because 1/3 or 1/4 or 1/5 would be dope yeah also Gran Turismo 7
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like. Yeah, if you're a racer on that
one. I don't have my wheel anymore.
I've been going back to the controller to race with Jesse.
I telling him dude get the wheelI want to be fair I do bring it.
I don't. Think it would be fair?
Bring it all right, next. Time we raise.
Yeah, yeah, but no, I mean it, it's been, it's been
interesting, dude. It's been interesting.
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My perception of a value right now about others has magnified
and showed a lot of grace to me,not because of that one, but
because I'm not so focused on what do I get?
I don't care. I really don't care.
Like, I even thought of like a whole, like, I hear these guys
calling and I'm like, man, that sounds awful.
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I would rather be like, hey, how's it going, Sally?
Sound like first sales jobs? Yeah, dude, these guys, they,
they and these guys are 6-7 years.
At this company. No, in that world I don't have a
license for this. World, I can't imagine knocking
doors, making sales calls for six or seven years consistently
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and making that type of mistake.Well, dude, I, I, I started
thinking like, was that Mike, I was talking to Micah yesterday
and he said, dude, your name came up yesterday.
And I'm like, where? And he goes, we're at that
marketing group, the Utah Marketers group.
And I said, Oh yeah. And he's like, yeah, he's like,
he's like, we were talking and and people are like, oh, I have
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such a hard time talking to people and and networking to
work at like Kmart. He could be a manager.
He had had a college degree. Oh, yeah.
In business management. Yeah.
And I mean, they made money, dude.
You could be a manager of a Kmart and have a really good
home, nice car. I was in line to make 50,000 a
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year at 18 if I had but I told. Them back in the day too, man.
But I had told them that I was going to college and so I
couldn't manage training table. I was going to go do the other.
And so I was like, I can't, I can't do that.
I'm going to go to college. I'm going to do this.
And you're like, well, if you change your mind because I was
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way young when I was manager. Like and that's cool dude.
I mean it, it, it shows like earlier on what you your
aptitude was for. Your aptitude is for order.
Your aptitude is for smooth because you hate anxious
feelings and so you would ratherhave everything work smooth.
So you want to know how everything works.
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So you're just like, no, like you watch that movie The
Founder. No, watch that.
It's about McDonald's. Oh, OK.
Ray Kroc, how he discovered these two brothers in California
who had this amazing cause back then, like he had to wait.
And he, they even try to show itlike, you know, the, the
skating, the skating waitresses or whatever they had back then.
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Man, I would have got in troublethen.
But he's, he shows he's like, he's waiting forever.
And they're like, sorry, we're backed up.
And then he goes to his McDonald's and he's never seen
this before, but he went there to follow up because this
McDonald's that they had this burger shop ordered six.
Oh yeah, he sold milk milkshake makers.
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That's what this guy did for a living.
He had a good living too. He sold milkshake machines.
That's so weird. And he, they are like, we need
6. And he goes, no, it's a typo.
And he calls and he goes, hey, I'm sorry.
My, my girl probably messed thatup.
Did you say 6? He goes, yeah, that's wrong.
We actually need 8. And he was like, Oh my gosh,
this is the sale. So he drives out there with all
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the shit, but then he goes over to see what it is.
And he goes up and he's there like, yeah, you know, what do
you want? He goes, I'll get a burger and a
drink. And he goes, OK, and fries and
he goes, OK, it'll be like $0.55.
And he's like, OK, he gives it to him.
And then he hands him a bag and he goes, what's this?
And he goes, your food? He goes, no, but I just ordered
it. And he goes, and now it's here.
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Enjoy. And I was like, that kid was so
like, dude, customer service back then was customers.
That was what you were proud of.Yeah.
It was your job. Because you were there to truly.
Fucking love this stream. Like, I don't know, it's we live
in these worlds where we do these jobs where most of it just
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feels tedious, monotonous and dumb as fuck.
Like my girlfriend talks about her job all the time and how
much she hates it and she's like, it's so boring.
It's so dumb. It's so like it feels really
stupid. I'm like, I get that.
But your job doesn't define you,no, it's just something you do.
I thought about it. I think, man, could I?
Could I do that? Like would that matter?
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I'm literally just sitting thereat a computer doing this thing.
I sat at a computer anyway half the day trying to do all this
other shit like. It doesn't define I think.
It's a lot of the perception anda lot of that comes from what we
are able to surround ourselves with, and what I mean by that is
all of this. Stupid.
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Shit that we see on TV, that thecelebrities have, that our
neighbors have, that all of our friends have.
The new nicest headphones, the best upgraded watch, this type
of car, these shoes, this name brand, this Stanley water
bottle, all this shit that you're like, why the fuck do I
do I need this? Or is it just because I'm like,
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yes, exactly. It's just stuff.
And at the end of the day, all that stuff doesn't really make
you happy. It doesn't come down to like, oh
man, I'm feeling warm and fuzzy because look at all my stuff
I've got like I'm surrounded by Apple products.
Oh, I feel so happy. Or like, oh, I'm wearing Nike.
Or like, does that really equateto happiness?
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But that's I think what it is, it's it's a protective shield.
Like many of us try to armor ourself in a way like Knights would
Anybody going into battle, maybesubconsciously they're getting
ready to go out there because you can tell by the people and
what they wear that they really want you to know that they are
ready for battle. Like when the reason why I'm so
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appalled to suits is because, and I, I don't, I don't hate
suits. I want I want to get a nice
suit, but at the same time for what purpose?
And it is to bring comfort into a room.
I don't want a black one, I wanta blue one I like.
Suits, but I like because I likehow I look, not because I give a
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shit about how I'm presenting or.
No, no, but that, that it, it's but to yourself, though, again,
it's it's reflective. That only for me.
I don't give a shit about what anyone else thinks or feels
about it. Because you haven't it, it makes
you feel a certain way. But I've also noticed that I
enjoy buying less name brands orhaving less labels on me because
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I'm like, oh, I like wearing something that doesn't look like
I'm branded, like or. Or getting like, like dude, I
was telling you about this. I picked this up at DI Desert
Industry. For 5 bucks. 5 bucks dude, this
is an Under Armour 1 and it is so comfy and it's perfect
because it's not too warm and it's not cold yeah and I'm like
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this because I was worried I wasgoing to be like sweating and
I'm not at all yeah and I'm justlike dude, this is so cool and
and it's because like dude, that's another thing too, man.
I'm really big on this thriftingnow because, you know, unless
it's something to like, really like, I want some nice pants for
work and slacks like that. If I can find it, thrift.
Hell yeah. Oh yeah, If I can find polos and
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stuff like that, thrift, that's what I'm gonna.
Do just go get some really nice ones.
I've got a tailor who's right out in your area.
She does great work. Sweet.
She tailored Alex suit. She did my pants.
Oh dude, so money. I I need that right by Alex.
I need that. I've got some pants and all
that, but you know, it's, it's, I started thinking that too,
man, like on the opposite side, like I don't want to be
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perceived as something else. Like my, my business and my, my
company. They said that they love, they
love me, but my, my boss is very, he's a square.
So he is everything is right, right angles.
And I know that. And so if I don't fit the mold
of this is what it looks right? Then it's going to be hard.
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Now, if I had an ego, I would bereally upset.
He said, hey, I need you to change your LinkedIn and I need
you to change your profile picture on LinkedIn and on the
company 1. And I said, oh, no problem.
And he goes, really? And I said, yeah, I mean, we
celebrate personalities. No, no, no, it's not a big deal.
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It's just a picture. It's not your Facebook, it's not
your own Instagram. It's it's just, it's business.
No. Problem.
Who the fuck cares? And he's like, cool, thank you.
OK. But I don't.
It's just things. Yeah, it's not important you.
Know, and I've been thinking a lot about that like scene where
you know, Brad Pitt and Fight Club, he's like, you know, I
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mean, of course it comes from the book, but he's like, you
know, you're not your cars, you're not your khakis, you're
not your apartment, you're not your money, you're nothing.
And I think that's that why I'vereally been so hold towards
Christ in that way, you know, reading a lot is because I feel
that like when you read those stories, it's all about complete
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sacrifice, completes a giving yourself to everyone, not just
to a few people, everyone and yet threatened with death,
killed, flayed, crucified upsidedown, like all this horrible
shit happened to him and they were happy all the way up to the
end. They were, they accepted it
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because they knew that this isn't, this isn't real.
This isn't real. The feelings that we share with
one another, that connection, that's real because it's that
feeling you get when you see that person and you're happy.
Like when we see each other, well, we get happy.
We give a big happy, yeah, real happy because there's there's
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meaning there. It doesn't mean because, oh, you
can provide for me or you can protect me.
It's just it that's where I believe like the soul really
that's a real thing because whenyou connect with somebody, it's
unexplainable on a completely different and I get really out
there. Thank you.
Is almost on a quantum level because it's you can't see it,
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but it impacts you. Oh, deeply, yeah.
It makes you so happy. Or it can completely destroy
you. Yeah, like nothing.
Else that's what I realized in my, my most depressed, anxious,
sad moments when my kids were across the country and I was
sitting in the front room and looking around and I was like, I
am just sitting in this anxious,depressed, lonely box.
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And I looked at the front room as literally just a box.
And I'm like, and it wouldn't matter if I'm in this box or a
bigger box or a smaller box or abox that smells different or box
it has different furnishings in it.
I would still be sad and lonely and depressed because it doesn't
actually matter what shit I haveof surrounding me because I'm
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still sad and lonely and depressed.
And in that moment Addie called me and I was instantly
overwhelmed with love and happiness and joy.
And I was still in that same boxthat a moment ago held sadness,
loneliness and depression, was overwhelmed with love, happiness
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and joy instantly because of a thought change, because I went
from thinking about what I didn't have to thinking about.
I'm sharing this second, this moment, even on FaceTime, a call
with someone I love, care about truly more than anything.
And that instantly changed all of it.
And it was like all of this stuff, all these things, none of
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that matters. None of it is valuable.
At the end of the day, it it really holds no valuable.
I could be crying my eyes out ina Mercedes-Benz, in a in a
Bentley like Atom, in a shitty broken down Honda.
Doesn't matter. Like it really doesn't matter
because at the end of the day, that feeling, all of that, that
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vehicle, that box that I'm sitting containing, it's just
the thing doesn't change anything at the end of the day.
No, dude, it's like this guy I work with, like he, he asked me
if that was my car and I said yeah, it's my Acura.
He goes, oh, he's like, I thought you would drive
something nicer. And I said, what gives you that
impression? He's like, well, I don't know,
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dude. He's like, I you're very
professional, but you're fun to talk.
He's like, he's like, you're weird because I'm, I'm like, I
could talk to you about businessstuff for hours and I don't find
it fascinating. He's like, but you just make it
the conversation roll. And I said, yeah, it's on
purpose. I've learned to do that.
And he's like, yeah. And I said, but was my car have
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anything to do with that? And he goes, I don't know.
And I said, is that your Tesla? And he goes, yeah.
And I said, cool, did you pay for the self drive?
He goes, no, it's like 8 grand. And I said, then why did you get
it? Yeah, like, honestly, like, only
thing I thought about while I'vebeen on the road a lot lately,
like I've been stuck in traffic for an hour and a half.
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Yeah, and that's time you could get back to learn or do
something that's like Bennett, when we wrote with Bennett and
he's like, I just got like 30 minutes of stretching in on the
way here. And I was like, wait, what?
Yeah, that is worth 8000. Dollars and I was like OK, but
for the lifetime it's not per year, it's like you pay 8 grand
and then it's unlocked. So I could do that and.
Why not if you're buying a? Towers a year, are you fucking
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spending and traffic commuting? Yeah, get your time back.
Like, what could? And that's what I thought about
like, man, what could I learn? What could I do if I wasn't
having to be so invested on I gotta make sure I'm not gonna
hit someone or or I gotta like especially in rush hour that
would have the value if I could do that.
But 100% I have zero care 0 desire to Oh no no drive one or
(45:52):
Nope or have it because. But if I'm on the road, I was
like, that was the only time where I was like, yeah, I'd buy
that. But when this guy doesn't have
that, I'm like, but why not? And and I get it, it it's
expensive. So then I have to argue.
I'm like, he's like, yeah, I saved this much on gas and I'm
like, yeah. And I'm not saying like, oh,
you're pulling off the grid or anything like that.
But no, I mean, it's still an expensive car.
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Yes, it's a very expensive car. And that's where I'm at where
I'm like, you know, what do I need that?
No, Would I would I like to havethat kind of not something that
I really. Think would certain things about
it. I would rather get an accurate
TLX like from 2018 to to now. There's a couple shitty ones in
(46:35):
between that but but I mean, I just.
Like on that diesel Beamer, 8090miles a gallon and it still goes
like. I like the speed and I like the
look just because I like it. I think of myself because I'm an
80s kid and I'm thinking of all those movies like guys flying
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jets and shit and they're. 16. Like that shit ain't happening.
Get the fuck out of here. But I mean, it's, it's those
things like I, I still think like that.
So it's nostalgic for me. And that's why I would like
something. OK.
I don't need a Ferrari. Oh God, no.
Like I saw some chick that I know on LinkedIn and she posted
a picture of her buying a Porsche.
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OK, that's cool. That's like.
Yeah, that is cool. But at the same time, like there
was this whole story about striving and growing and and
that as your goal, which is great if if a vehicle is really
there. But you know what?
Like it's like getting a shit load of money right at once.
Like the most money you've ever got in one little small period
of time all at once in a lump sum is an amazing feeling.
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But it has about the staying power of a fart.
Yeah, and. Then you're back to who you are.
You didn't change. Nothing's changed.
And in fact, so your, your spending habits didn't change,
your money management hasn't changed like nothing within the
lack thereof, your habits haven't changed.
And so usually it's like, OK, well, a big lump sum.
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Oh my God. OK, well, and then again,
because no habits or things havechanged, nothing, nothing truly
changes. No, like that's why we see
people who win the lottery and then you go back and it's like,
well, they're poor as fuck somehow.
Like how are they? And it's because they have
nothing's changed. Nothing has changed.
They're the exact same person, but now they've just got an
(48:20):
instant lump of sum or recurringlump of sum and they're still
that same exact person. And so the problem is that
person who never was able to store earn, save is but in that
same mindset. Where does it come from?
Typically man, and it is the, it's the learning.
It's the learning of of what happens, not just life, but
(48:41):
about connection. Because when you make deeper
connections with other people, you're more cognizant of their
life. You want them to like a business
owner may be seen to many peopleas a complete piece of shit
because he has millions of dollars or this person, how many
people does he employ? Well, he employs like 700,000
(49:02):
people. How many families are that?
Yeah. And then they provide benefits
and all these other things. Does that affect seriously?
And you're going, OK, well, yeah, they started this and you
might be pissed because look howmuch money they've got, but then
you look at it and you're like, but then look how many families
they're helping some, some. And then I mean, obviously some
are still helping anyway becauseotherwise their company wouldn't
(49:24):
exist. Well, as.
I mean you, you're gonna grow your company based on the people
that you get and keep and, and the trend is for like 9 months
to like a year and a half and then you quit and move on to the
next job. Well, cause no companies like
here is a pension and a retirement and we want to take
care of you. We want you here until you
retire because we value you and we see that value.
(49:46):
And so we because no pension exists.
No. Well, I mean and.
It's not that retirement fantasythat was always promised or
like, oh, you could get this, but.
That's the thing too. Like, I think that's what rotted
the minds of the boomers was retirement.
Because what happened to most ofthem when they retire, they
don't know what to do and eitherthey just go on weird spending
(50:07):
sprees or they go on vacations because that's what you're
supposed to do. But they're not fulfilled by
that. And so they find themselves less
fulfilled because there's a purpose you have.
And honestly, I always think like, well, if I was in a place
of great fortune, not overwhelming like fame or
something like that, I don't want ever that.
But it's something where I can feel like I can contribute not
(50:30):
just money, but it's also my time, my connections.
If I make enough connections in my life and I'm somebody's
trying to start a business and Ican help them like save five
years saying, hey, talk to thesepeople and not even have like a
vested interest into it going, hey, yeah.
And if you get there, give me 5%of it.
Like I don't even need to ask for it.
I just do it because it's. Just to help them, it's what
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could you do? And usually it's people you like
because that's why you're connecting them is, hey, I like
something about you, what connection we built, whatever
here it is. And I want to see you succeed.
And I think there might be something I can do, whether
that's connecting with your friend, giving you some insight,
even a fucking book, like there might be something I can do that
(51:16):
could give value. It doesn't mean that there has
to be anything that comes back. It's just that I valued that
connection and I would like to see you flourish, whatever that
looks like. It comes back, man, Like, do you
know anybody who's like, really kind, very generous and always
just like happy to be around that struggles?
(51:39):
It's a rarity like like Greg, Greg Wimmer.
Oh, OK. He's got, I mean, they've had
their struggles and their familyfor sure, like every family.
But you know, one thing I've always appreciated about him is
that no matter what, he wants everybody around him to feel
comfortable. Yeah.
And that I resonate because that's how I am.
I want you to all be comfortable.
(52:00):
Like if somebody doesn't like me, I used to hyper fixate on
it. Like I was telling you about
that woman at my work who's justlike, she clearly doesn't like
me. Like I'm just like, OK.
And I tried to talk like I was trying to get to know my boss.
So I'm asking him questions. We're serving over at the Humane
Society. This company is so cool.
They just they force you to do humanitarian.
(52:20):
I'm like, that's awesome. It's you know, it counts against
you. There's no like you don't you
have to be sick and they're likeyou have to go and they do it
right in the middle of the work day.
So you that's cool though. 4 hours and go do this.
I've actually found that going and helping do things like
that's been it just feels good, like impactful to your soul,
(52:42):
because even like the service project in Mexico is still
probably one of the most impactful moments.
I think that shaped my life and that have really just made me
want to help anyone, not becausethey have anything they can give
or do for me, but because they exist because they're there and
(53:02):
because maybe in some way there's something I could do
that could help them and that's it.
And it's it was like that was a whole different mind shift of
something because growing up in a very judge mental critical
culture and society was. Which is funny too, because I
mean, it's so centered on at least the the name brand on the
(53:25):
outside is Christ. And but it's not that way.
It's judgement. It's it's constant like keeping
up with the Joneses. Like I saw this thing where
there was a comment about Utah Mormons and they go the outside
people that I've never heard this before.
Maybe you have, but they said that you realize how far some of
(53:46):
them are away from Christ when you look at their homes.
Yeah. And I was like, they go so big
and lavish, not how they were perceived as Mormons in their
state. Yeah.
And so it's like it's well. It's because look at what God
has given me. But like, so much.
And God wants me to have this estate that looks so gaudy and
(54:12):
lavish and over the top that no real human ever honestly fucking
needs. But yet we do have quite a few
homes like that here. If you could build a mansion, I
would make that like a place forentrepreneurs to live.
Like honestly, like I'm like youguys share this house, this is
rent, It's reasonable, everything's included, but all I
(54:35):
want is whatever ideas you have,I want 2%.
That's it. You get to live here, but I want
2% I. Didn't do it.
That'd be a. Kick ass place, no camera set up
right, no real world bullshit. It should be creepy just like
you know, cuz some people would say like how can we profit off
of every little thing? Like that's what I would want to
do. How do you monetize that?
(54:57):
How do you like throw cameras inthere?
Make it weird. Let's script it out.
How do you monetize it? You let these guys create
something that nobody else watches.
I think that's one of the big things that stifles innovation
now is that everything is sharedalong the way.
Why can't I build in peace and then release it?
When I saw this interview of theguys who made Robin Hood, one of
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the founders, he went from college campus to college campus
to college campus giving this software away.
He would say, hey, I want you totry it because nobody was able
to ever get into the stock market unless they had a broker
or he had your Series 7. So these he he wanted to make it
open for everybody. They all thought it was going to
(55:39):
be stupid, but the the place he was trying to sell it was Wall
Street, and instead he found it on college campuses.
Yeah, I was like, you can't sellthat to Wall Street.
Wall Street's where they actually trade.
He's so wealthy now, but he doesn't act like it.
His favorite thing to do is findold cars.
He's like, there was a romance with cars and it it goes back to
innovation. These things were created and
(56:01):
they didn't have to be shared with everybody.
You create it in the dark and then you release it.
That today is like when people get a surprise drop of a video
game, everybody go, yeah, they lose their shit because why?
We live in a world of expectation of, yeah, it'll be
released and the whole series will be out and I'll watch.
(56:22):
It because we've got the trailers, we've got teasers,
we've got everything we've got amillion ads for.
Just teasers dude. That's what they should do for
all movies because even if it's shitty, at least she didn't have
any expectations, right? Like I'm looking at you Vin
Diesel, right? Like all your movies fucking
suck now dude. Like I don't want to watch Fast
movies, they're so stupid. Emily asked me.
(56:45):
She was like, oh, there was thisfast movie and because it was on
at the gym in the theater room, they have.
And she was like, oh, there's this fast one had this.
I'm like, who the fuck what thatwas in there?
And she's like, you haven't seenthat.
I'm like, I stopped watching them after like 5.
Do you know they're Paul Walker,whatever died.
And it was like, all right. And even before then, it kind of
(57:05):
like the first one was good. The second was fine.
Tokyo Drift was like, why this didn't make sense with the
story. And then four, they kind of
brought it back in, or four or five they brought back in how
that played into it. Or maybe 5 was where Paul Walker
died, I don't remember. But it was kind of like, all
right, I'm good. I think I'm done.
You guys have played it out. It's like land before time.
(57:25):
We got 37 of them now or something like and he move on.
He. Keeps he keeps dropping Pauls
and they, you know, Pablo and wehave Pablo here today.
He'd be so happy and proud, like, no, he's dead and he's in
a different realm and he doesn'teven know what's going on.
Movies back. Why would they?
But that's the creepy thing, dude.
(57:46):
They put his face on it and there's just like.
Paul Walkers face on it. Yeah, well, dude, like Bruce
Willis, I think he saw before hewent into the he sold the rights
to be able to make use his likeness cause.
Bruce Willis and then he sees dead people.
And so that's how Paul Walker was able to be on there.
Ohh no. Why is it cold?
(58:08):
But I mean, it's this man that was such a good.
It still is a good movie. Dude that's so crazy.
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