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Welcome to Cannabis School. I'm your host, Jesse Angeles.
And I'm Brandon Elder. And we're here to talk to you
about everything pertaining to cannabis from.
Vape flour. Edibles.
Strains. And everything in between.
So today we're checking out. It's by ritual.
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It's called permanent chimera. Permanent chimera.
It sounds like a science experiment.
Right. It's mixed with a permanent
marker, which we just did that strain.
So go check out that and it's combined with chimera #2 We
haven't tried Chimera. Yet, no, not at all.
And you know, one of the things I really liked about it was the
breakdown of terpenes. And the number one you're going
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to find in here is lemonade. And you know the big reason why
people like lemonade? It's it's uplifting, it's mood
enhancing, great for stress, anxiety, energy, often gives you
this citrus Zing like I actuallylooking forward to like when I
get a really strong one like lemon Key Lime, Key Lime Pie.
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Oh, we haven't had that. I still think about that one.
Late at night when you're all alone.
You'd Brandon's usually touchinghimself, but.
Like, yeah, don't you? And you think about Key Lime
Pie? I mean, what else do you do?
Wow. You know, and and it what's
really cool, though, no, not only is laminating at the top
because that's really good for those who get that tightness in
the chest, This is a great way to relieve it.
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And this one is a supposed to bea really balanced hybrid as far
as looking in, but cool. Terpenes and cannabinoids.
Right, but the cool 1 is the second one is beta carefully.
So we're talking about the pain relieving aspects,
anti-inflammatory. So this is like a really I, I
mean, I'm because 5050 hybrids go one of two ways for me,
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either really chatty or very sedated.
Interesting. Very.
And it just depends on the, the,the terpene, but linolol, then
humaline, then pining. I mean, this sounds like a very
strong sativa leaning hybrid based on those terpenes.
That's what I would say. Even when it's ground up like it
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is, it feels a little bit stickier than it did when it
was, you know the nug. The flower is crazy dry on this
one. Like it it's.
Colorado Dry, Yeah. Colorado dry it literally hang
on. Listen to this.
That crunch, that crackle. It's like so dry.
Yeah, it feels crazy. So I'm excited to see, very
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curious to see how it burns, howit tastes, what the experience
is like. Yeah, oh, permanent chimera #20
that's what this one is. THC is 20.
Point. 57. That's what it was, yeah, very.
Interesting. So wait a minute.
The package says inhalation of cannabis smoke has been
associated with lung injury. Very good to know.
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Well, that's true, because they do say that it creates bronchial
effects over long periods of time.
Oh yeah, I mean my voice goes lower the more I smoke out of a
bong. I don't I I typically like
throughout the week. I'm using a vaporizer.
Yeah, I actually pulled out George Jetson yesterday and
smoked a bowl from it, which normally I don't.
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Normally I am often dabbing or using the vaporizer or something
else. Like, it's not often during the
week that I pull out the bomb. Definitely tastes stale.
Isn't that sad? Like the very first hit is
usually the the best flavor, thebest like.
No citrusy notes whatsoever. Lame.
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Is that supposed to be the top reported flavor that?
You yeah lemonine because when you have lemon in especially
that amount of lemon in there which is around from what I.
Saw. Oh yeah.
I've got a. Citrusy, fruity, some peachy
notes. Supposedly no.
Like sour and spicy. Sour, spicy.
You tell me. Yeah, that face.
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Yeah, I got spicy. That's why I started coughing.
You know, I don't want to shit on this, but I got to tell you
like I mean, the facts is going to be different, but there's
something to be said about dry ass weed because when you smoke
dry weed, that's usually like ohshit, I found this bag like
Brandon found. That's usually why I have dry
weed. Yeah, but you know what?
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Even that dry weed is still pretty fucking good compared to
that. Well, it's surprising because
that mystery bud that we did theother week that who knows,
probably sat there for six months, probably was about the
same consistency of like dryness.
Oh yeah, but I mean. This is very peppery notes I
don't. For a lemonade high.
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Or citrusy. Or.
Well and beta carefully is the second one so and it's a pretty
decent amount as far as dosage goes in there, but.
I wonder if when it was first cured and harvested, if you got
more of those notes, but now after time and degradation of
quality, if it's lost some of that and so now we're left with
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the product. Well, and what does that tell
me? Like that tells me that this is
really old weed. Like this is really old weed.
This is like a year, year and a half old weed.
I mean, I don't know how does it?
I'm not feeling shit really. Nope, I am down the back of my
neck. I feel a little.
Badly enough like. And I've been like, I haven't
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been using much cannabis for thelast three days.
I mean, now they're just edible form I can.
Every time I smoke I just get panicky.
Oh yeah, you were saying that because the cake would make you
super. That's the thing too.
I did notice more lately, the cake, I've gotten a lot more
tightness in my chest specifically from that strain.
This one's supposed to help with, like anxiety and chronic
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pain. That's supposed to be one of the
really high reported relief. OK, I'm starting to feel it.
It's a. It's not it's not bad.
Interesting. Yeah, it's it's real calming,
but I don't feel tired. The only negative thing I would
think about this and and it's just from my stance right now.
I mean, yeah, OK, I know I'm pissed because it's like shitty
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weed. But when you pay money at a
dyspo and you get shitty weed, Imean, I could go to a plug the
guy who grows his shit in his fucking backyard and it would
taste 10 times better than that.Yeah.
And take that off in a SEC. I just didn't want to keep
smoking the dry weed just keeps it rolls.
Yeah. Oh, I know.
It rolls. It's like a, it's like a forest.
Which I love. If I'm passing the bowl and it's
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just going, that's perfect. But if I'm not and I'm letting
it sit like, it's kind of annoying.
That's the cool thing that HappyCamper offers.
I love that cap. Yeah, that that would be cool on
a bowl. It would be I.
Used to like this. When I had bongs where my bowl
would be flat sitting versus this one's at an angle, Grandpa
gave me these cool stones and they were flat and smooth and I
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would just cap it with one of those and that was like the
perfect bowl cap for my bong. And I just set that on there.
Yeah, it was. I paid 55 bucks for that 8th at
Yeah, yeah. And I was just man, man, man,
who's this? I don't mind the experience so
far. The.
Experience is OK. When I didn't touch the bud
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until I got. Dude this is like $3035 weed.
Yeah, at least I would feel. In a dyspo, yeah for sure.
The terpenes like that, I do give it, it looks better than a
lot of other flower I've seen even through Colorado over the
years that the quality might have been better initially.
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But again. Yeah, the whole.
Quality, yeah. Does it have a match date on it
potentially or a like a harvest or let me see.
I didn't actually look through there to see, but I'd be very
curious what that looks like as far as when the actual harvest
was from there. That packaged 11724.
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OK, yeah, six months. Yeah, checks out.
Yeah, I mean, you know, that's another thing too.
I mean, if the dispos got it going six months, you know, that
shit's dry as fuck. You know, somebody who actually
knows what the fuck they're talking about is going to be
like, all you got to do is touchthat bag.
Yeah. Going that.
Was it the second? I touched it and I was like, oh,
this is super dry. But I didn't touch it until I
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got home and opened it and I waslike, oh, this is exactly.
Fucking weird, dude. Not for I mean, and I mean, hey,
I'm not going to shit on you guys.
Ritual I I think it's great product.
I feel it now. I've only had two hits.
I feel it very a lot at the baseof my school.
I like it. I like the feel.
Hey, on on feeling pretty awesome, actually.
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Yeah, this is a chill. But here's the problem I have
with it. I don't feel like I want to do
fucking anything but I'm awake. Like I would doom scroll with
this. Oh, I wouldn't feel like being
productive. Yeah, that's not great.
It's. It might like a Sour Diesel.
Or if it's the end of the Express, yeah, perfect end of
the day weekend day where you'vegot nothing of importance get.
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This dude this is a good fuck itstrain like.
It's a fuck it. End of the day you're just like
fuck this. It it could be.
I wonder if it's chimera. Like I've never tried chimera,
but permanent marker was a pretty dopey.
Yes. Slow you down a little bit kind
of strain. I don't know man, I just, I like
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it, but it's definitely like onein reserve for me.
This would be like, you know, at$35, should I pick this up once
a month just as kind of like if I if I was going through a lot
of stress, anxiety, like I thinkthis would be a great strain.
It's pretty pleasant the more itsettles in.
I don't feel any tightness in mychest at all.
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I like the overall. It's like all over my body.
It's supposed to be a pretty happy strain overall.
I think they use it for depression fatigue as well.
So if you're probably exhausted,Yep, this might be a great
strain to, like, put you to bed at the end of the night.
If you're just like, oh, man, it's been a rough day.
Just kind of need to shut my mind off.
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This one might be perfect for that.
Yeah. I mean, some of the stuff that,
you know, kind of like was playing around with, I'm like,
what would this pair well with? And I mean, the effects to
expect are euphoria, but not overwhelming pain relief with
clarity. Great for afternoon creativity
or evening relaxation. Potentially good with anxiety
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Lenolol and CBD touch so you know when do you it totally.
So after work wind down creativesessions, social evening without
couch lock, low stress focused test.
So I'm already feeling like I'm going slower.
Yeah, my, my eyes, the lights feel like bright but like muted
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and it's very interesting. It's a very.
A pleasant I I do actually really like the feeling of this
strain. Again, it's not it's the it's
not a daytime one. It's not a no, I got shit to do.
But if you've got some pain, maybe you're hurting.
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I slept like shit and I woke up in weird positions.
So like, and my back hurts. I don't know why I'm duct tape
like this. Like why is my butt in the air?
And, you know, I just, yeah, I don't know.
That sounds like that just totally triggered old Robin
Williams skit. He used did a lot of stand up
comedian right? He did and he uses like he he
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takes a drink of his butt to go have a little sip of Perrier
here. Had to had to quit drinking
because I kept waking up on the hood of my car with my keys in
my ass. People come by going.
Can we help you, Sir? No, it's OK.
It's just flooded. It was so funny, dude.
Oh man, he's hilarious. You know, it's interesting.
The flavor seems better further.Yeah, like, I don't have as
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strong. They're still peppering.
Dude, it's fucking strong. It is.
I only had one. One hit, yeah.
Yeah, fuck. So I'm going.
In even though it's dry and we like the shit all over that
because dry buds. Not our favorite, honestly.
Do we spoil? I mean, Dragonfly produces some
of the best. Tasty.
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Fucking just delicious. The only thing that beats is is
all the stuff from California and Oregon, and no, all the good
stuff from California and Oregon.
I'm sure there's lots of other great strains too.
Yeah, but for me, pardon. For me, it's the full
experience, but I'm a bit of a legacy user, so I'm I'm more
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concerned on the flavor. Yeah, a can of snob.
We've had more products, experience and ability to go,
hey, this was not my favorite experience.
I actually didn't like that. Now if I was at a social
gathering, someone had this in ajoint, still tastes the same, I
wouldn't give a shit because I'mat a social gathering and this
is, you know, as much as people don't like it, it is a fact.
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It's embedded into us, is like almost our DNA, but it's tribal.
Because senior donor. Yeah, because when you're when
you're when you're around othersand you're passing it around,
you're passing that energy around.
And if you've got one person in there who's kind of fucking up
the vibe, either they got to join the circle or they going to
get the fuck out. Yeah, because it's going to fuck
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everybody's vibe up. And then what is every?
It breaks the circle and then everybody leaves.
You notice that like you get a bunch of good people around, one
person fucks it up because of their bad attitude.
But like, they're just like, hey, you got to go like.
Yeah, you say hey, you know, like.
Penny, shut your face. You're adopted.
But the idea that, you know, that you would turn something
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away, like, yeah, I'd shit all over because it's dry.
Look, if you pay 55 fucking dollars, you should be able to
get $55 worth. And if it means that it's an A
year on the shelf, you're not going to move it.
I mean it's a great experience, but it tastes like shit.
Yeah, but not, not every grower,not every strain is really the
best flavor profile if it reallydoes what I'm looking for and if
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it's a good experience overall. Like, yeah, I'm really
disappointed that it's dry, but I know.
I'm just disappointed with the price.
Yeah. Oh, that too if.
It was $10 cheaper. It'd still be worth it.
For Utah, yeah, I feel like Utahflower pricing, 45 bucks an
eighth is not my favorite. It would be probably subpar.
Like it's not the best quality, but it's not the worst.
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And so I think that would be a fine one.
But it was just, it was the dryness with the price.
It was that combination togetherof like, I feel like I overpaid
for that just because of the market and how much I know, like
I've spent on flour everywhere. And then I look at it.
But I I do Love Actually the feeling like it is a pretty
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thorough like it's throughout myentire.
Body. Oh yeah, dude, there is no
doubt. It's strong as fuck.
Like I feel it throughout my body, dude, It's, it's on my it
feel it right here on my forearms, my finger.
And and you know what I'm I don't know, you're right.
I am a bit of a can of snob now,which is hilarious because
before I would suck down pens and I'm like, this is
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embarrassing, right? And then now I'm just like, is
that a dirty dusty? Yeah, that's not touching my
mouth. I was like when I went and
actually got this and I was talking to the bud tender and I
was like, So what have you been puffing on?
Like what's been what's been good for you?
And she was like, oh, I've been doing this one.
I'm like, what is that? She's like, oh, it's in a cart.
And I'm like, so it's a a dusty.She's like, yeah, yeah, it's a
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dusty. And I'm like, oh, OK.
But I mean, that's OK, you know,they just don't know.
But here's the thing. I just had an idea.
Like, you know what? Purely, if you go in there and
they've got this like fucking color chalk board thingy with
the markers and stuff, and they write up all the specials, but
they just write the flower and then how many ounces and the
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price. Yeah, but it'd be better if they
could spread it out a little bitmore and say here's the effects.
Well, but that's not chair Leaf because Cure Leaf is AMSO and
they are a wreck. Product.
Oh, I know, I know. I'm just saying.
You know. No to move it though.
That's what I'm saying. Like as a.
Consumer. I would love that.
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I come in and says calm, happy, euphoric, going to be like,
that's exactly what I want. Because if I come in and I'm
brand new, I'm in Utah, I get a medical card and I go there and
I don't know what the fuck to do.
And I get this guy behind the counter who may or may not know
what the fuck he's talking about.
And the guy's like, Oh yeah, dude, I love those two grim
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cards. I'll go through them in a week.
It's pretty rough, dude. I mean, unless you're like
heavily addicted, Like, I understand.
Like I heard about this guy who's been on kratom for 18
years. Wow.
Yeah, it's like you can't get off of it.
And the guy used kratom to get off of opioids and he's like, I
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can't get off of it. And I've heard a lot of people.
Super addicting. Sick.
Yeah, in the it's like a a mild high buzz.
OK. Yeah, but it's for pain
apparently. But people get addicted to that
shit. I've not really tried kratom
I've there was a buddy of mine who had me try kabi and I did
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that a little bit and it was fine.
It wasn't nothing to write, hum about or go.
I mean, but if you don't know anything, like, yeah, I mean, it
changes your perception of reality.
Yeah, you're going to go, whoa. It's like the first time you
ever get a pain Med, You're like, whoa, like, first time I
ever had morphine. Oh my.
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Gosh. Yeah, it was a love story right
there. It's a good thing I never got it
again because I would have been addicted to morphine, dude.
Like, it felt amazing when they put into my body.
I became warm and extremely. Happy.
Oh yeah. And I'm just like fuck, this is
amazing. Yeah, I went from like crazy
body time. I I don't even know what
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happened. I was sick and I wasn't I wasn't
even a little bit at home. I was like grown up and I went
to my parents and my ex-wife at the time was like, oh, you
should go to the doctor. I'm like, why?
I just feel sick. And we were sitting there at the
doctor 'cause my parents are friendly, like, no, you need to
go. Like they all drove me down to
the doctor. And I'm sitting there getting
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checked in and my body starts like tensing up and like I and
I, I like, I can't move all of asudden and they take me and they
stick me like morphine, put me with all these fluids in that.
And it was like this crazy floaty, such a happy you've
worked. But yeah, you can't live like
that. No, but it's, it's, it feels
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like bliss. And and that's that's where a
lot of people even get problems with with Canada, like like a
strain like this. I could not do anything.
No, I. I'm not even excited to play
video games or watch it. I could.
You know what, this would be great for Fishing.
Oh yeah, fuck shit going camping.
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I wanted sitting out in the mountains just.
Fish, I mean, early in the morning, just fucking putting
all that poison on me so the mosquitoes stay off me, yeah.
I fucking hate mosquitoes. And just, I would be so content
with a bag of this. We smoked the whole fucking
thing. Oh yeah, we'd be there for 6-7
hours, just maybe catch 2 fish. I was like, you think we'll
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catch? 2 fish maybe but dude it's like.
Our poles aren't even in the water, we're just sitting here
holding. Them.
What I love about this is it makes the most mundane tasks
seem entertaining. If you could do the task.
Yeah, dude. But I mean, I love this idea
where I'm like, no, it's got to be simple task.
That'd be boring task. Like if somebody's like, hey, do
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you want to paint this room? You get me a A.
Compressor. I actually don't mind painting.
I don't either, that's what I'm saying.
Like like I even smoke this and then just go.
Wait, I don't know. I was going to say even not
high, but then I realized I don't know the last time that
I've painted without having cannabis in my system.
So I truly. Wouldn't know anyway.
I have no idea because every time I do it I can even do
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rollers. See, I love rolling.
Just simple mundane tasks. I couldn't do complicated things
like I couldn't get involved in a Nolan movie right now.
I. Don't know what that.
Is Christopher Nolan Interstellar the Batman movie?
I can't get into a movie like that.
Be like, no, no, I couldn't have.
Told you what? He directed.
I couldn't even get into a funnybut I could watch a documentary
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on it. Oh, I could watch Interstellar
because this one would like calmmy mind enough, the music.
And I could just be like so drawn into it because my
problem. And I was thinking about this
the other day as I was sitting there and I'm like, what do I do
right now? I've already got this done.
I've got this done, I've got this done.
What do I do? And my brain's like, well, you
could do this, you could do this, you could do this.
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And I realized my problem isn't that I have so many options.
My problem is my brain's afraid of choosing the wrong option.
So instead of going hey, just dothis.
It's like, what if I do this andthat's not what I want to do?
What if I should have done this instead?
Shut the fuck up, sit down and just chill.
Just do it. Well, it's hard.
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It's hard, man. It's not, it's not an easy
thing, but it's great that you noticed that.
So this would be good for that because it would just go, don't
worry about it, just do it. Just just do it.
Yeah, just do it. I like the the fact that it's
super calming that I haven't used.
So it's good even in decent doses.
I mean I've only had two two ribs.
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I mean 2 full chambers. Yeah that's not bad.
I just. For a sharing I don't.
Know I think and I was really harsh at first I apologize
ritual oops. But the thing that I'm I'm
thinking about here is if your weeds this old and dry, just it,
this is just a QA thing, like maybe somebody could go through
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and go and yeah, when I squeeze it, it's crunchy.
Maybe discount it then and go ohthis is old shitty weed let's
let's sell it for 3540 bucks. Yeah, I mean before you have to
fucking dispose of it. You know, however, the thing
that. They just take it and turn it
into distillates, don't they? Often the thing that I was
wishing that we did. I wish that I had tried that six
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months ago, because for how pleasant this strain is, how
like decent the experience is, Iwonder what it would have been
like when it was like newly harvested and properly cured
instead of dry as fuck. Way too long.
Long stage. I like the packaging.
Yeah. I don't like that It's clear
right there though. No.
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And my only concern was that, yeah, is the light.
That's probably what dried it out.
Is just well that would change and degrade like the THC over
time. So you get air oxidization and
the air, the light will actuallychange and degrade like THC and
that's where you get more of like your CBNTHCV basically less
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potent in. Yeah, but they're selling this
at like a premium cost for like dragonflyweed.
Yeah, Betty, pricing. Betty Price.
Oh yeah, no, that Dragonfly is more expensive than that.
But yeah, I mean even Betty pricing because we know the
Betty quality typically now I have had Betty that's dry as
fuck too. Same.
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So I won't always say that they're lows it, but it's just
on today. Yeah.
And I get it, They don't pay attention to most of others
products when they're expiring other than if they scan it
going, oh, we can't sell that. There's got to be like a cut off
time. Yeah.
Well, there's got to be a queue,a shelf.
Life, yeah. I wonder what the shelf life for
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Utah products is currently, If you guys know, what is your
shelf life for your products in your state?
Obviously flour might be different than edibles, might be
different than concentrates, might be different than
cartridges, but do you guys knowwhat that is as far as your
products go? We'll look into that for ours
and maybe we'll hook that up next week.
Yeah, and if you got any questions, feel free to e-mail
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