July 1, 2025 • 48 mins
Everyone’s heard it: “Weed was way weaker in the ‘70s.” But is that true — or just more media smoke? In this episode, we dig into the myth, the measurement methods, and the mistakes that have fueled decades of confusion around THC potency.
Brandon and Jesse break down:
Why today’s flower isn’t always “stronger”
How old testing methods (like gas chromatography) skewed historical data
The science behind why your dad’s mellow joint isn’t a myth — just misunderstood
What high THC actually means for your body and mind
The entourage effect and why you might want less THC, not more
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(00:11):
Welcome to Cannabis School. I'm your host, Jesse Angeles.
And I'm Brandon Elder. And we're here to talk to you
about everything pertaining to cannabis from vape flour,
edibles, strains, and everythingin between.
Well, welcome back, kids. Hey D Ho.
(00:32):
So we wanted to ask you because we keep getting a lot of
comments, a lot of responses, and we're starting to see a lot
of bullshit in the media. Oh my God, thank you, CNN.
Yeah, fuck you guys. Oh big fuck you guys.
THC is it too high? What are your thoughts?
'Cause this is a debate that many can of sewers, cannabis
(00:54):
culture, potheads, all alike unique.
We know that there's a lot of stories around that talk about
oh, well, the percentages were so much lower back in the day in
the 70s and 80s. Oh yeah.
The 60s and. To get more people hooked on it.
Oh, there is. There's that one.
Or like that it's drastically way too high now and that they
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have noticed because there's people who are like, oh I tried
it back in the 60s and 70s and it was just chill.
And now I smoke it and I just gointo panic attacks.
So we want to talk a little bit more about the depth, the
science, the results, the, the the ways that they obtain data
and ultimately what it really means to you as a cannabis
consumer, either a legacy one oreven those who are barely
(01:41):
dabbling in it. You know, a lot of this like
Brandon, I've been talking, we has had a great conversation
with a local dispensary owner and grower and we were talking
about that where there's this big push on high percentage THC
being extremely harmful for you.And I will agree with that.
High amounts of THC pretty consistently is is it can really
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can't, it can lead to a causation of problems.
It's not a correlation that it will hurt your heart, cause a
stroke or anything like that. But there are causations that go
towards them. But there's a lot of factors
that people forget, especially the media.
There was a big one over there. I'll, I'll, we'll attach the
article that was sent to me about why they think it is.
(02:24):
And what we want to do today is not necessarily debunk.
We want to educate you. It's the same as anything out
there. Look, you wouldn't drink 4
gallons of water sitting there. You'd kill yourself.
Yeah, well, you can die on literally every other thing so
far. A fuck ton of carrots in diet
probably. Yeah, well, that one I'm sure
(02:44):
'cause you can overeat anything,but even water, you can consume
too much and die. Even air, you can die from air.
Cannabis is still that one that they haven't found the LD-50, at
least as far as I'm aware. If you guys do know what the
LD-50 is, it's the study of halfway through the testing of I
think Lab Rats. So basically that 50% of the
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test subjects die or anything. They've never found any dose for
that even in the Lab Rats. So they were hypothesizing for
humans it was like 10 to 15,001 gram joints in a 15 minute
period may kill a human. Dude, that provides you junior
high when I was in this back in the late 80s, early 90s, but
that when I was in junior high and it was fucking hilarious
(03:30):
because they did this whole thing for dare week, you
remember? Dare Week.
Right, for old enough, you know,DARE week, but they made this
like giant thing with like butcher paper across the wall
and they all drove these things and they drove headstones of
people dying from drugs. And one of them said smoke too
much marijuana. And just, and all of the guys
who had long hair and listened to like Skid Row and rat and
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guys and roses, they're like fucking idiots.
And they're like, yeah, because all these kids were stoned.
But here I wanted to kind of talk about that with you, Ben.
And you've got a lot of information.
But you know, this is the old school weed, right?
70s to 90s. So the average THC content in
the 70s was 1.5 to 3%. In the 80s, it was 3 to 4.
Nineties, 4:00 to 6:00. But that's skewed, isn't it?
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Because on modern weed. Potentially 4 to 7, but even
then it's it's hard because it might also depend on where that
was found, where it was tested from.
A lot of it came from the University of Missouri and other
like collected sources of just DEA seizures and stuff that
happened. So a lot of it wasn't even
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stored properly. So oxidization and light can
degrade THC percentages over time.
So then when they finally went to test it, they used old data
technology with like a gas chromatography method, which
also degrades the THC percentages in that testing
process. So it's a very hard to calculate
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our exact percentages over the years.
But the thing that we've kind oftalked about, because I made a
post on TikTok the other day or on socialism, and it's been kind
of fun to see the commentary, was that change of THC
percentages over the years. Because now we're seeing a lot
of like high 20s, thirty percents, mid 30s.
We've even seen some high 30 percents, like 38 percent THC,
(05:20):
and that's on flour. And so having that, they're not
always the best experiences. It's not like highest THC is
going to be your best experiencebecause when you grow to push
for highest THC, you get rid of other cannabinoids.
So you have less CBGCBNCBD, maybe a smaller spectrum of
terpenes than you would hope forbecause of that.
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So as we've talked about before,the entourage effect is almost
like a more complete high. And so if you're getting a
smaller range of cannabinoids and terpenes, well, your
complete high is probably going to be a little less complete
than what it might have the potential of being if it did
have that broader spectrum of cannabinoids and stuff.
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So it's looking back at all those people who used cannabis
back in the 60s, seventies, 80s,you know, and going, Hey, I'm
sure your your amazing experience from hash or flower
or whatever. I'm sure it was exactly what you
claim it was. But the THC percentage probably
wasn't necessarily the same as it is today.
And that's okay because that those two don't necessarily
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correlate high THC percentage and best experience.
Well, and and also the growing methods, because the growing
methods are going to change drastically once you put a lot
more botany into it instead of just green thumb in it.
You know you can't just throw this shit in your garden like a
tomato and expect it to be yieldthe best quality cannabis out
there. Not at all.
Cannabis is an extremely delicate plant in many ways if
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you want it to be able to produce the high amount of
cannabinoids that you're seeking.
She's a fickle mistress for sure.
She's a. Bitch, if you treat her
horribly, she's going to treat you horribly.
She doesn't take shit from anybody.
But the same time to say that THC levels were higher now than
then, Yes, I believe that. When you look at concentrates,
we didn't have concentrates in mass production now.
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Yeah, there was dab. Yeah, there was wax there.
Were things like well, in hash. Hash has been around for ages,
you know, back in Afghanistan, Hindu mountains all like all.
These they had high amounts of THC in there for sure, but we
can't do it. Hey, real quick, we're actually
going to break that one our friends over at.
Stash. Stash some of the best grinders
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that we've been. Able to use This is the one
we've been using on the show forGosh.
I've got a little one at house. I gave another one of mine away
to my brother-in-law. He still uses it to this day,
but they were so kind as to sendus.
They sent us so many goodies from their company, all their
grinders. We've got the same one as mine
and black a hemp 3D printed likeplastic.
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Look at this hemp cool hemp plastic dude.
I wouldn't dude, this is cool onthe sense of like one.
It's it just feels cool. It's actually it.
Doesn't feel, it's a very tactile like feeling to that
one. I do enjoy that.
Now Brandon's running the boat. Yeah, this one's like a party
grinder or if you're making edibles or if you're just
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hanging out with Brandon and need to smoke.
This is this is the bad one. That's what I said.
It's the identical to that. Just in black.
I love it, dude. Yeah.
See. Yeah.
'Cause this this is. It's got a tiny one in the top,
but it's slightly different. So Brandon's got a good size nug
here. Oh yeah, this.
Well, I guess you could say it'squite the nug.
(08:37):
Yeah, it's quite the nug. Now drop it into the new
grinder. I want to.
I want to because that thing, look at the deepest of that
bowl, dude, That thing is massive.
That's like a cereal bowl. Throw some fucking Cheerios in
that. Yeah, you could literally eat
some soup, a bowl of cereal, andmaybe get some ice cream in
there and Gelato. Oh God, that perfect.
That's like a souffle dish. I know, and it doesn't have a
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Keef catcher because who needs that?
Nope, not me. Dude this thing is a beast.
Because it's got grip around theside.
That's what's really cool. Brandon's going to try and get.
He's going to get some squeakiness in there.
You know, when Brandon used to hear squeaking, he knew that his
parents were finally stopped fighting.
Oh. My God no.
We thankfully had some in floorswhen I was a teenager in between
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the main floor so you could not hear anything from upstairs.
Did I have friends is there? Her parents would just get at it
and they didn't care there. And I remember one time we were
like in her in her basement watching TV, and you could hear
like, Dang, dude, she probably came out with, like, bruises on
the top of her head. Yeah, she's like Wham, Wham,
Wham I? Can't walk?
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But one of the things that we'veloved about.
Staff, what am I going to do about my legs?
Quality quality grinders, great build, easy to clean.
Like how they and we've been. Friends with them.
For a while they don't have the blades or the diamond shape of a
lot of grinders. Yeah, they have these nubs.
Nubbins. They've got sweet nubbins.
(10:01):
Which is really nice on on certain aspects it will really
make a grind fine. Well, it's supposed to not grind
it. It's supposed to tear it apart
nicely, so it doesn't. But I find that with this I get
more powdery, powdery weed. So I'm curious on interesting to
get on this one. Yeah, this, this beast.
Well, I mean, that one's all. Let's see.
(10:22):
That yeah, that's. Really cool.
It's all grounded. I like it, it's almost like a
gear. I know it feels totally
different with those ridges versus the perfectly smooth
pull. That out that's cool and it's
dude, you could literally grind.This is great.
Like what you said, this is goodfor a party or you're just like,
I just love deep bowls. Like that's cool.
(10:42):
If you smoke a good amount. That would like be overflowing.
Oh yeah, depends on the grinder.That small one, the little
travel guy, That one probably would fill it up.
This one. 'S cool.
I like it just for the simple fact that this could be for
almost anything Psilocybin, cannabis, whatever, hemp if
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you're so inclined. But I love the build because
look at that no Keith catcher, just straight in and it's
perfect. It's a perfect size for You're
on the go, do you? Looks like a fucking hockey.
Puck I know that's I thought it would be perfect for like just
sticking in your little bag or something when you go camping.
It's the perfect to go 1. Man this is so cool, so you got
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a link or anything like that? Yeah, the link will be in the
show notes for stash code code will be in the show notes.
Go check out stash check out their dope grinders.
They have fantastic products. They've got a battery for like
5-10 thread. Yeah, they apparently used to
make an e-mail. They don't offer it anymore, but
they had a post on Instagram andabout it.
(11:44):
And I was like, holy shit, I didn't know you guys made an
e-mail and you're like, well, westopped.
We found this one like back in the back somewhere.
I was like, holy shit, I didn't didn't know you guys even made
those. You.
Know, I'm a big fan of Stash. I like really good grinders.
Yeah, shredders. Yes, well these.
Shredders are great. That's crazy.
This is interesting because it came for with a new grinder and
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it's supposed it's like a rubbery 1 and I don't know what
that would do as far as like theexperience on your flower, but
it just it's the same spot I'm. Glad you didn't try it out right
now, but it looks like I'm getting dirty as.
Fuck. OK, but look at this though.
You know how we were talking about that smooth.
Oh, this has it too actually. That line that separates the
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things that Shredder had. This has that same stuff.
But the rubber? The line the rubber is nuts.
It feels so weird. Do that.
What? Yeah.
It's like it doesn't belong. No, it's so weird.
I love that bevel though, right there so it keeps it from being.
Sticky fantastic I. Wonder if that would really help
with wet weed. Oh yeah, because.
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Grinders tend to get really gummed up with your fresher just
I mean, it's cured, it's dried, all that stuff.
But we've got a lot of mad love for Dragonfly because they make
some the best weed we've. Ever.
So I never ever use my keef and because we don't have much,
because most of our stuff is pretty sticky, it's pretty dank.
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And so I don't end up with most keef.
So I really don't. I, I never care for a keef
catcher much because since I stopped shopping in Colorado, my
products have stopped being so dry that I end up with a fuck
ton of keef. I know that's terrible to say,
but there's a lot of reality, like a lot of truth behind and I
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didn't really think about that, but most of mine that was really
dry was all Colorado flower I was getting.
I missed George Jetson, I finished her off, you know.
Still love these guys. Wish I could get a we could get
a hold of them. Yeah, if you guys have a
favorite bong or a peace company, it's like this.
Drop it in the comments below. We've loved George Jetson, but
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we haven't heard from them in a hot minute.
I. Don't know if they're busy.
I don't know if they're still inbusiness.
I know a lot of our our our audience and our friends here
that we get to share. Like you have loved them.
They've gotten the big ones, they've gotten these little
ones, which is fucking huge. But I got to tell you, it's one
of the best bongs out there. But we are, I know there's a lot
of percolating bongs out there, but if you know of one or you
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own that company, reach out to us.
All right, so back to it on the percentage side.
Like the thing that really gets me is that that article coming
out and this is somebody hit me up saying, hey, look, man, I'm
really freaked out. I just got into cannabis.
I'm using edibles and I see thisand I'm in my late 40s.
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I don't want to have a heart attack or stroke.
And I was like, OK, so here's some things that weren't
considered in that factor in that study.
They gathered that from 2016 to 23 and it was across the world,
which means it wasn't a concise study, it was random studies
grabbed. We don't have all the data.
They don't have dosing, they don't have times of using the
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cannabis. They're premorbidity conditions.
Well, and the thing I'm curious on is it's, it's not a long term
study of, hey, these people had used cannabis for this long.
Here's their twin who didn't use, here's their twin who did
use and were like seeing or sibling or closest relative that
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we can find. So we can have like comparisons
or like the closest thing to a any sort of double block, like
any sort of data that makes sense.
It's probably all been compiled like you said from different
sources. But I would look at that and go,
it's probably not been a data oflike, hey, this was tested for
heart things. It was like, hey, this person
went to the hospital for this and they also we used cannabis.
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Using. Cannabis, yes.
And so it's like, OK, well, that's not the same thing as a
study of like, hey. We followed this guy for this
many. Years and we noticed that due to
just cannabis use because nothing else in his life he
lived the most healthy lifestylediet, sleep, you know exercise,
mental health all of that was perfectly in line.
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So, you know, like how many of those are we actually tracking?
And I would guess that the the percentage is 0.
Well, and it just goes down to everything else, right?
If it bleeds, it leads. So where social media or
anything like that, if it takes storm, if there was a study out
there that says smoking cannabisat percentages higher than 15%
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will make your Dick bigger, it would sell out.
Tomorrow. Oh my God.
Yeah, right. Yep.
It'll make your tits. Bigger.
Well, just that comment alone, we probably already did sell out
anything above 15%. Yeah, but I mean, it's like you
think about it like when people start getting so hyped up about
what somebody said instead of really looking into the
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research, right? That like you have it in the
palm of your hand, it can be free.
Just simply go to chat and say give me a no bullshit about the
history of cannabis and how it'shurt people.
Now, again, I'm going to go intothat, right?
Let's look at the other side of this coin.
Yes, it can cause problems. High concentrate THC is not good
for your heart. When we kind of talked about
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that, because long term stress patterns that we've seen in like
my dad or other people who have had long term stress where it's
like, hey, your blood pressure is insanely high and your heart
cannot handle this long term. It will rupture bursts.
You will have complications happen from that.
And I would wager that if peopleare doing 1G dabs constantly, if
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they're putting their heart in this crazy overworked,
overstressed state, like you said, even marathon runners or
things could have that long term.
So, so if you look at these longterm things of hey, is it more
just what is the stress that we're putting on our heart?
Is it more than what it really should have long term?
Like yes, it's great. Our body can do amazing things,
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but is that amazing thing necessarily the best thing for
us in 30, fifty, 6000 years fromnow?
Well. And that goes to the point of
like your higher amounts of THC,such as dabs.
Like dabs I'm a big fan of. I love dabs.
Oh yeah. I love them for what they are
now. Some of the drawbacks on dabs
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for me, if it's not a lot, it doesn't last and I get a lot of
THC all at once, but I don't need to use as much.
But you can end up chasing that dragon.
And why say that? I used to start with like tiny
bits of dab, yes. Now I do a little glob.
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But you like. The size of a booger.
Because you started at the pointof like 1 pen hit was good.
No, it's not one pen hit anymore.
So I look at that most of the time and it's like yeah, it has
gone up. But is your glob my glob size
are you? So you know, I look at.
It but I'm like it, but it is still I mean and that shows that
a lot of people like those who only have access to concentrates
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just because they're blessed, you're going to run up a high
tolerance pretty quickly. So that's a negative side.
Also the high heart rate of different strains.
It can hurt your heart over longperiods of time especially.
If you're doing larger doses, totally like because you can do
the small dose like we did at the beginning where I was like,
hey, just take the tiny pin headsize and your dab was super
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small, tiny and then it's the same as like a pen head, you
know, So that is that is an ability that you do have still,
but it's. Even flour can go the same
route. I mean, you remember we were
like we were dude. Like I have jars, bags of
decarboxylated flour sitting in a dark cabinet right now.
That's another thing. If you got decarb flour, don't
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be letting that shit sit out with everything.
Put it in dark place. But the the amount of THC that
is available today, yes, it is alot higher because we're able to
test better and we actually knowit's impossible to be able to
take older data. It's it's saying the same thing,
right? Like, you know it, It's like.
(20:01):
How some Christian face, not just Mormons, but they'll go,
yeah, well, you know, dinosaur bones aren't real.
They were put here by Satan. Yeah.
And you're like. These are the funniest.
What? And you're like, that doesn't
make any sense. But that was based off of a
belief. Just to test you, you know.
And that's where I think that there's this really fine line
between data, actual facts and beliefs.
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Yeah. And belief, because it's
emotional. I think that's why it leads
people to being so afraid whenever the media who has some
type of special interest involved.
Oh yeah, To strike that down. Well, it's, it's the fear, it's
that, hey, if we can manipulate this, like if we can say this,
how many people 'cause how many people are getting into cannabis
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now? Like we look at even Texas and
Texas has only hemp Dr. productsand THCA and yet they're in.
Was it a 2 or $3 billion industry just in Texas alone in
the last couple years without having real cannabis there and.
Imagine. No.
That's one of the largest 3 primed markets for cannabis when
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they do. And I I truly believe that
Texans it'll happen sooner, maybe maybe later.
But anyways, I mean it's alreadyhappening later.
There's more of a black market in Texas too.
I bet the black market probably 10X is whatever they're making
in hemp. I would take so because I have a
friend down not in Texas, but inFlorida and I guess I have
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friends in Texas too, but in Florida he was talking about it
and they have kind of very similar things where it's all
like the hemp derived shit that he's getting unless you have a
medical card like well, why don't you get a medical card
'cause it's probably like 2530 bucks down there.
He's like, well, we might be moving back to Utah, so I just
don't know if I'm going to get it yet.
I'm like, that's horrible. I would get it in a heartbeat.
I got a medical card when I was in California for a week because
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I was like the area I'm in only has medical.
So Oceanside, that sucked. I could pay 50 bucks, get a
medical card and then have cannabis delivered to me and I
was like, cool, I'd do that. And I did.
And it was great because I granted, I paid like 50-60 bucks
an eighth for two different aids.
But it you know, it's out in themiddle of nowhere, California,
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like you, you get what you get. But it mean that's the thing
too, like, you know, we do know the Gray market is there and a
lot of them push carts and THC percentages.
And that's another thing you have to remember that your pen,
I got one with me. Your pen is concentrated.
This is high concentrated THC. This is not, this isn't what the
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plant was meant to produce, but because they can concentrate it,
that's where dabs and these comeinto play.
These. Not even the same as like, not
even close. They used to have hashes and
other concentrates, but they weren't naturally made and they
didn't have the same chemicals and stuff.
So you can get like a very cleanhash, but it's way harder to
find. And it's more expensive because
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it's now it's craft. And The thing is, it's like what
Brandon and I have been talking about.
Like I love dabs. I do.
I like it. We've had some amazing partners.
Doctor Dabber Bomb, you guys areamazing.
Oh, we'll have those links belowcause 710 is coming up.
Oh, if you are in Utah. Oh.
(23:22):
Shit dragonfly event where you can go get a puffco pivot for
the cost of a puffco pivot you. Get 100 and 3000.
And sixty you can get the your medical card in Utah for 50
bucks and you can get a gram of their like Super Booth live Ross
and concentrate or of their concentrate.
For $1.00. $1.00. What the fuck?
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Yeah, so you get. If you're not there Utah, buy
that shit. I know.
Fuck up. Yeah.
And if you are driving by, just come up be like Oh my God my leg
hurts. Yeah, just say, hey, cannabis
school sent us, where did we getour Puffco Peak 'cause we want a
$1.00. Oh, pivot, puffco, pivot,
puffco, pivot. And then they're doing giveaways
for like the Puff Peak, some other stuff.
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We're going to be chilling, hanging out.
So come stop by Dragonfly up in Salt Lake.
That's going to be cool, but theeven the concentrate, because
that's that was a really cool conversation.
This kind of somewhat spiked this conversation was we were
having a conversation with Dragonfly and as we were talking
about it like we've used their concentrate.
It's per ricey people so fuckingpricey, especially from you've
(24:31):
got a plug where you're being able to get dab for like what 15
bucks? Yeah, 1520 bucks a a gram and
you're buying it for $70.00 for a gram 8090 sometimes.
But but but, but I will say the ones that I'm like, if you're
looking at a $20.20 dollar plug gram, you're probably getting
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like a batter a butter. Yep, not a live rosin, not a
live resin. And if I'm paying, even at
Dragonfly their $80 gram was super poof.
Live rosin and. The quality of the product when
you're banger. Other biomass that goes into.
Dude, it just disappeared. You can tell it's, it's like the
(25:14):
five star, right? When you look at the five star
at the burning rate over there, you know, what is it turning
into? Does it look dark?
Or I have like nothing left. Yeah, it just disappears.
Like you just put in a dry swab and it's clean.
I don't get that in my. I mean, after a while your
banger will start to develop anda little bit of brown in there
(25:35):
just because of just the time. But I'll tell you like having a
high quality hash is, you know and they're.
Going to have hash makers there.Yeah, that's going to be super
cool and. Hella exciting.
You guys can meet the hash makers who actually make the
hash. Yeah, we're going to be able to
ask them a ton of questions. We'll be doing the we got a lot
of cool stuff in the live, but you know, kind of button this
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up. You know, for me right now,
where I'm I'm sitting at is thatI don't see it as a war being
waged on cannabis. It's war being waged on soft
minded individuals. Be curious, look into it.
Don't always take what they say as Hey, it's bad for you.
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These are the same people that said that carbohydrates need to
be the number one food source inyour life.
They created this bliss totally.If you have a question, ask us.
Research it, Google it, talk to chat GP.
Like there's a million ways to find out if there's no.
Excuse these days, yeah. And and that's what really
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frustrates me is that the media still keeps thinking that people
are that fucking stupid and the people who are trapped
underneath that bias. There are some.
Yeah, well, I mean they are fucking stupid.
But The thing is, is it's the only reason why is because they
were either hard pressure and brought up by being
institutionalized with fear of anything, right?
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Yet at the same time, you could see advertisements for alcohol,
meaning that you could be #1 if you just started drinking this
shit, right? It doesn't make sense.
The proudest thing that I heard about from my son recently, his
buddies were getting together. I mean, he just graduated high
school and stuff and his buddieswanted to get together, kind of
get drunk for the weekend. And he's like, that's lame.
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I mean, they're like, why is that lame?
He's like, it'd be better if youjust smoked weed and not get
into trouble. He's like, I don't know why you
would want to mess your body up with that.
He's like that straight poison. And they end up doing really
stupid. Shit, but dude, the the coolest
thing they go, well, have you ever drank it?
He goes no, and I'll never need to.
He's like, I've learned a lot about cannabis, like whatever
his relationship with cannabis is his relationship with
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cannabis. You know he's not.
I'm not giving it to him. I'm not selling it to my son,
but he's he respects the plant alot and he knows a lot based off
of all of the the time that we have spent learning and growing
our knowledge. I mean, we're pretty
knowledgeable about cannabis to this point.
You listen to our first episode,especially Casey Jones, and I
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was saying Davy Jones. Remember that?
That did make me try. Dude, I, I listened to that just
a little while ago and I oh, really funny.
Dude, we didn't do too bad. That's why our our some of our
number ones, our very first ones.
That's hilarious. It is good to hear but that's an
18 year old man right young man?But I'm getting ignorance from
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50603040 year olds people and you're like, where is this
coming from? You You have information right
here and you and it's so biased for you.
Just dig a little past page one on Google.
Like really don't just listen towhat the mass media tells you
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because there's a purpose. Be there special interest behind
that. Why would they do that?
What's the alternative that's coming out?
And I think this is conspiracy time that they're trying to
create another synthetic cannabinoid to take the place so
that they can own the THC. Well, there already is too.
I know. But I mean, I think that they're
really, they're developing something to try and kill.
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There'll be more, yeah, because it'll be pharma has this one,
this one, this one, and they're all FDA approved and all through
this. So you don't have to worry about
it. The problem you don't think
about is, and I think about thismore often because the whole not
having the Netflix without ads. So my Netflix has ads and you
know what? I get a lot of alcohol and
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medications. Oh, totally.
And yet the one thing that basically like I see the alcohol
ones, I just kind of chuckle at and I'm like, that's really
fucking stupid. I I'm not gonna.
I used to do one of the best. I used to love I got.
To give you a link to put down there the best alcohol
commercial, Ray Liotta, who's anactor.
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He's dead now. Ray Liotta for 1800 tequila.
OK. It is motivational.
It is inspirational. It is storytelling at its best.
And at the end, you're like, dude, he's talking about you
being a better person. And I'm like, whoa.
And there's like this boxing match going on.
And he's like an old Mexico. There's this hot Latina.
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She's like, hey, do you want to come over?
You want to keep drunk on 1800 tequila?
Come here, Papi. And he comes over and he's like,
what's going on? Saying you're Rita and all of
the sudden at the end he's just like, yeah, I'm the best because
I drink 1800 tequila and I'm like, good God, that was
brilliant. That was brilliant.
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You make me want to drink it. And that's what I love about
marketing. Yeah, but.
But the the ones I've seen now, they don't do that.
Yeah, they're dumb. And I'm like, you're not
inspiring me to want to have a drink.
But then I watched the the medication ones and everything
that's produced that's FDA approved comes with a long list
of side effects, including like leaky butt hole, loss of
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friends, loss of kidney, loss ofleft eye, your left testicle
turns into a booth like all of these things.
And you're like, possible death.What?
But I could use cannabis. No, you don't want to do that
because like, you might kill some brain cells.
Inverted erection syndrome like your penis just goes inside you
and you're. Like what in the world?
What? But yeah, there's this list of
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medications. What does it help with eczema?
You're like what? That's exactly now with Ebglis
and I'm like what the fuck is this like Oh my God.
It's going to finally turn into like they're really desperate
and they're thinking like the generation younger and all the
medications are going to be in cereal and they're just going to
be like, just add milk. Yeah, just add milk.
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Well, this is amazing. I love eating.
I love eating my Zoloft. Every morning, it's like the
Rick and Morty Future episode where everyone's eating pills
and the world's run by robots and the robots do all the real
jobs. And so Jerry's like, yeah,
Jerry's like the head of one of the governments because it's
Jerry. Yeah.
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And they're like, oh, yeah, you're bringing down, like, A5
pill chewable salary or something.
It's like OK. Well, dude, it's like the this
thing like I, I use a GL P1, which is like Ozempic,
tricipatide, bunch of different ones.
OK. But The thing is, is that that
medication is going at extremelyhigh doses for people, and they
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say it's the minimum and you're watching like these celebrities.
Oh yeah, they are turning into ghouls, Yeah.
It's sad. It is because it literally looks
like they're concentration camp survivors.
And I'm like, this is horrendous, why would you do
that to yourself? The way they always talk about
it, it's like freedom and stuff like that, which I get.
But you know what, they should have it going feeling like a fat
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fuck. Well here now you got a shot.
Get rid of that fat fuck Ness. And you were like, if I heard a
commercial like that and I felt like a fat fuck, I'd be like,
you know what, I am sick of being a fat fuck.
But they dress it up as life changing and.
But it's always the celebrities who are not big to begin with.
Dude they look like the cast from Fallout.
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Yeah, it looks horrible. They like Sharon Osbourne, that
sounds like. Hilarious.
Oh my gosh, I'm a. It looks like fucking Rango.
I mean, dude, it's, it's bad andit's, you know where people go.
Oh, well, there's nothing out there.
There's a lot out there. There's a lot out there.
You know, honestly, I tell people that have a a problem
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with obesity and like smoke weed.
It's already like, oh I'll get to lower your PM munchies and
Nope. You.
Make good decisions. Yeah, well, but that's their
problem is making it that's. Why they're in, the players that
commit they're in. I was a fat fuck for.
Honestly, I just always I have acrazy metabolism, but I always
ate whatever I wanted and it hasn't been until the last
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handful of years that I've started to realize a lot more
stuff And even like the the stuff that's like you eat your
food like medicine or you eat your medicine like food.
It's, you know, we have life harder when we're young, if we
want life easier when we're old,like we work harder, we go to
the gym, we do these things so our bodies don't hurt.
So we have money. So we have all these things that
it's like, you know, we do things so that we can have
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things certain ways, but then wedon't always do it.
It it's just looking at it going, oh, shoot, that's
probably a better approach so that I don't have more pain
later. It's like the Dalai Lama, the
art of happiness, but going intoit of like life is suffering,
like everyone suffers and throughout our life, the theme
and pattern is probably suffering filled with moments of
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joy and like overwhelming happiness and stuff.
But like overall, like I live with chronic pain.
Every single moment of every dayhas has, yeah.
But there's so much beauty and joy to be found in the present
moment, in like colors, in nature, in connection and stuff
that you lose when we focus on our suffering and on all of
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that. Really, and it's hard not to get
caught in that trap and every single one of us will get caught
in it. There's not one person that will
not get caught in that. But you know, that's one of the
things that I really like about.And this is the, you know, to
talk about how THC effects like,you know, recently had a
conversation with Brandon about,you know, how I had realized a
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lot of the things that I was doing that were not harmonious
with other people and where I, Ipledge and I talk about, you
know, connection before anythingelse.
And yeah, I was being not necessarily just hypocritical,
but I was very unaware of what Iwas doing and how cannabis was
able to take tropical runts, which is what we're smoking
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right now. Tropical runts, Like that strain
for me is very introspective. I was able to take 20 years of
shit and explain to my wife why I've been acting a certain way,
and I didn't have that clarity 20 minutes before.
I was arrogant. I wanted to be right.
I got research to back my fucking claims and I was
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spiraling where the cannabis, which is at a percentage of 20
to 25%, was the right dose. So I'm thinking like the higher
percentages on THC don't necessarily mean it's going to
be more harmful. Yes, there needs to be more
education. You are selling a product to
somebody who has a instruction booklet.
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No, there needs to be more educational content, like what
we do, but on top of it even more in depth or spoken plainly
like Sesame Street. That's a fun idea, by the way.
We should totally do it with fucking.
Puppets, ah. Yeah, dude, we got to do that,
Muppets. If you guys know of anybody who
does puppets and stuff, get in touch with us.
Anyways, we'd love to do a wholeskits with puppets just look
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like Brandon and Jet. That would be hilarious areas
that would be like the the ones with the hands like this like oh
dude. Anyways, but to to come back to
it like yes, the percentages mayhave been lower then, but we
don't know truly they could havebeen much higher.
The reason why we see the percentages going up is that the
testing quality had gone up, so.Well, also it could have been
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less time to degrade. It could have been.
All of these who grew it, Yeah. Did they grow up because they
didn't put the amount of? Just because it's confiscated in
a specific time doesn't mean that that grower was even as
good of a grower as this other one.
And so. It was a It was a commonly used
harmonious plant. Well, that's kind of a you think
about it. It's kind of a ludicrous data
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set to even compile because if Igo to like even one dispensary,
the difference in quality of bud, it ranges so drastically
that to select even a handful ofnugs could go, oh, well, this
was what it was. Well, but maybe not because you
misconstrued the data because ifyou looked at this one, it was
actually way higher. So again, like it's a, it's a
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very weird data set. But that's the thing that I
always asked in the comments on that post was if you have data,
sure, I would love to see it. I would love to see it because
the only data that can be found is that it was really low and
it's kind of trickled up and we're a lot higher percentage
now. But again, that doesn't mean the
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experience wasn't great or that you didn't have a really good
high or have all this stuff way back then.
It just means maybe there might be a difference in percentages
because our focus and push now is to try and push to get a
slightly higher THC percentage and and that's it.
Exactly and and talking back to those who were consuming
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cannabis in the 70s, eighties, 90s, whatever.
And they're, they take it now and they're like, whoa, this is
so strong compared to that. They are a tourist in cannabis
now where they're not actually. Using.
Touch it. They barely touch it because
guess what happens when you smoke anything that you haven't
touched in a long time? You get really fucking high.
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There's no. Right.
If you went without weed for three months, Brandon and you, I
came back and the first thing I greeted you with off the plane
was in the car. It was this thing.
And I'm like, bro, we got that and I've got about half a pound
on the back for you. Just go crazy, right?
Brandon wouldn't even be able toget 1/4 of that bowl.
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He'd be fucking stoned out of his mind.
So for those who are speaking asan authority from that time.
Those were beautiful days. I'm I.
Still feel good on it. It just isn't the same as taking
in two hours to mow a lawn that's the size of most people's
front lawn. Like, I mean, you know, because
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it was great. That's a hell of a task.
Yeah, but now I could mow my lawn in 40 minutes higher than
height and I'll be like perfect lines.
But that's the thing. Like if you, if you're speaking
from a place where you don't have a lot of experience in it,
just, you know, get more acclimated to what is available
now, learn a little bit more about terpenes.
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You didn't give a shit about that then.
Get CBD, Get high in CBD or CBG strains if you can.
Start learning. Really about that CBG?
Low and slow, have lemon juice on hand.
Like there's so many ways that you can try and make your
experience. There's no excuse not to have a
good experience on cannabis or at least have an exit plan.
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Yeah, have a better experience than you might have, because not
every strain might be the best experience, and if you are new
to it, consuming another strain might not be the best option for
you. If you're already very high,
get. More information on that strain
as much. You know, guys, I mean, we tell
you we got so many things working.
We've we put a lot of time in it.
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We have, we have a team of developers that we've been
working with to develop something like that.
So you can have that on hand as a resource for certain things
like that awesome strain journalthat goes there.
So it starts to work within AI to be able to sell you like
recommend strains based off of the ones you've been using.
And find you stuff that helps you.
Dude, and we just were thinking like this would be so cool to be
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able to offer and and we're totally done.
I mean. And it's in the workings.
Yeah, it's in the workings and it's going to be free.
We just, we want you guys to have a far more edge because you
know what it's going to do, man.All these percentage talks and
stuff like this 1015 years from now are going to be a thing of
the past. We're going to have amazing
weight at that time because these kids that are growing up
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are starting to figure out less kids are drinking these days.
Oh yeah, I've been really happy with it.
And I haven't read the the actual physical data, but at
least like there's a lot of headlines that are pushing out
that kids are drinking less. But I also wonder if that's why
I see so many ads for alcohol isto push more into that because.
Oh, they're trying. It was like big tobacco.
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I didn't see as many, granted I haven't watched commercials for
ages but like there was a time that I didn't see like Super
Bowl time, obviously beer commercials and stuff but like
majority there wasn't a lot of alcohol commercials.
I was growing up, I saw a lot ofalcohol commercials.
When you were younger or like. Well, I I I had unfettered
access to my TV after school as I.
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Feel like there's one. We're in there.
Wham. Right, I did I.
Had I had unfettered access, butI.
During school. Yeah, no, but no, like at at
night time, like that's when allthe ads would come on, you'd see
some like cop show and my parents would, they would watch
everything. And if we watch with them, cool.
Like that was literally the onlyfamily time I that we really
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spent. We did other family things and
just saying that was the majority of the time very
Americana. But the to think about from then
to now, I lost what I was going to say.
What was it what we were talkingabout right there before you
started sneezing? God I didn't remember those
sneezes. Kind of took me for a loop.
Anyways, let's go back to that see, but the thing that you're
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looking at, this is what I wanted to get back to earlier.
So thank you for that, for resetting my tangent because
this weed is amazing. Thanks.
Causation doesn't mean correlation.
What does that mean? It means that just because
certain symptoms and things havehappened for other people, such
as heart attack, stroke, anxietyattacks, heart murmur, stuff
like that, it's typically something else that's
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underlining it's a medical condition with that person.
So if you have hypertension, getchecked out, Talk to somebody
who actually knows about cannabis in that one probably
going to point you more to like teachers that are like 1 to 20
or whatever like really like minimal THC dose seems to slowly
build you up so you can go OK cuz.
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You titrate your dose so you don't go into the really high
experiences. So you're, I mean, you want the
benefits, right? You enjoy the high.
But if you are not a person who consumes thinking about like
you've got your very conservative people or you've
got your elderly people, actually, I find more elderly
people are way more open to cannabis than ever before.
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I don't think I've ever been told by an older person.
They go, I had a guy come up to me in my neighborhood and he's
like, hey, I know you're all about cannabis.
And I'm like, and he goes, my mom and my sisters all died of
dementia. Does this help?
And I'm like, yeah, anecdotally,yes.
And I was like, but it's, it's anice lubricant.
It's it's like medicine. It's like vitamins.
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If you take it, it can help. And he's like, yeah, yeah, I
need to talk about that. The vow, LDS guy, all that
stuff. And yet even inside this church,
they're super against it. Yeah, for sure.
But. Then we like the episode we had
with Barry, who was even using it before it was ever legal and
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stuff here for a decade, you know, and, and I think that's
beautiful when people can find that.
Or even the Wimmer's grandma whohad cancer 20 years ago here and
she used cannabis, that was agesago, long before it was ever
legal or even remotely considered legal here.
And so there is some people who have found that like exception
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of hey, this is value or medicine for this person I love
in this specific moment, but then shun it and so many others
you. Know it's the, you know,
honestly, it really comes down to guys is that it's having
conversations like what we're having right now being open
about it saying you know what isgoing on about it instead of
just believing A hype, you know,and, and my wife is a prime
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example of being grown up and being very close minded because
the parents are trying to protect their children it's.
The mindset that was taught. It was, but now I think that
bleeds over where they're like concerned about it.
My wife is less concerned of my kids ever using cannabis and
she's also less concerned that they'll ever use alcohol.
And and I'm I'm big on that. I'm I'm very against alcohol
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now. I lost a very, very close and
dear friend to alcohol. I've got family members who are
Alcoholics. That scares me.
But it was all worried about me smoking weed.
And I'm like, dude, I'm healthier than rescue.
Motherfuckers like it it and, and just because like you look
at somebody who seems healthy. This is for body and mind and
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spirit for me. That's what cannabis does.
So don't just think that it's about sleep and all that stuff.
I guarantee a lot of us are out of balance and sometimes you
just need to gain some perspective.
And the Green Queen here, man. Tropical rents.
Sweet little mess, but. Any of them, and that's why
there's so many of them out. There.
Oh, I just meant today. Oh dude, this is brilliant.
Very cottonmouthy. I know.
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But not clicky cottonmouth like my lips feel like they're all
like like dried and crack from the Sahara when they're totally
don't look like that. But that's the way they feel.
No, this has been an awesome combo, bro.
Because yesterday I think that the funniest thing was out of
it. And this, this is a quote from
our friend Nerath. I loved it.
He's like, so you're telling me that you want to lower the
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percentage on the quality of theefficacy of cannabis?
You wouldn't do that to pain pills.
You wouldn't go over there going, hey, that pain pill, I
only want it to be about 80% effective.
Yeah. I don't care what the other 20%
of stuff that you add in there is, but just lower, whatever,
just just lower it. I don't need it to be as strong.
This is like, that's the dumbestfucking thing I've ever heard.
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You know how to do that? Learn dosing.
Learn dosing. Other fucking medicine, dude.
You know, it's not like how muchweed did you take?
A handful. OK, don't trust that guy.
Yeah, I know. But you know, going.
Hey, Yeah. Well, how much weed did you
take? I don't know.
It depends. What time of day is it?
What have I done today? What's my diet going on?
What's my mental health like? Yeah, so.
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Be more aware of that the the percentages.
Don't let the percentages scare you.
Ultimately, you're the one who allows it into your own body, so
go low and slow. Yeah, as we always preach.
And TuneIn next week. Yeah.
Love you guys. Take care.
Welcome to Cannabis School. I'm your host, Jesse Angeles.
And I'm Brandon Elder. And we're here to talk to you
about everything pertaining to cannabis from vape flour,
edibles, strains, and everythingin between.
Well, welcome back, kids. Hey D Ho.
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So we wanted to ask you because we keep getting a lot of
comments, a lot of responses, and we're starting to see a lot
of bullshit in the media. Oh my God, thank you, CNN.
Yeah, fuck you guys. Oh big fuck you guys.
THC is it too high? What are your thoughts?
'Cause this is a debate that many can of sewers, cannabis
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culture, potheads, all alike unique.
We know that there's a lot of stories around that talk about
oh, well, the percentages were so much lower back in the day in
the 70s and 80s. Oh yeah.
The 60s and. To get more people hooked on it.
Oh, there is. There's that one.
Or like that it's drastically way too high now and that they
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have noticed because there's people who are like, oh I tried
it back in the 60s and 70s and it was just chill.
And now I smoke it and I just gointo panic attacks.
So we want to talk a little bit more about the depth, the
science, the results, the, the the ways that they obtain data
and ultimately what it really means to you as a cannabis
consumer, either a legacy one oreven those who are barely
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dabbling in it. You know, a lot of this like
Brandon, I've been talking, we has had a great conversation
with a local dispensary owner and grower and we were talking
about that where there's this big push on high percentage THC
being extremely harmful for you.And I will agree with that.
High amounts of THC pretty consistently is is it can really
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can't, it can lead to a causation of problems.
It's not a correlation that it will hurt your heart, cause a
stroke or anything like that. But there are causations that go
towards them. But there's a lot of factors
that people forget, especially the media.
There was a big one over there. I'll, I'll, we'll attach the
article that was sent to me about why they think it is.
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And what we want to do today is not necessarily debunk.
We want to educate you. It's the same as anything out
there. Look, you wouldn't drink 4
gallons of water sitting there. You'd kill yourself.
Yeah, well, you can die on literally every other thing so
far. A fuck ton of carrots in diet
probably. Yeah, well, that one I'm sure
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'cause you can overeat anything,but even water, you can consume
too much and die. Even air, you can die from air.
Cannabis is still that one that they haven't found the LD-50, at
least as far as I'm aware. If you guys do know what the
LD-50 is, it's the study of halfway through the testing of I
think Lab Rats. So basically that 50% of the
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test subjects die or anything. They've never found any dose for
that even in the Lab Rats. So they were hypothesizing for
humans it was like 10 to 15,001 gram joints in a 15 minute
period may kill a human. Dude, that provides you junior
high when I was in this back in the late 80s, early 90s, but
that when I was in junior high and it was fucking hilarious
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because they did this whole thing for dare week, you
remember? Dare Week.
Right, for old enough, you know,DARE week, but they made this
like giant thing with like butcher paper across the wall
and they all drove these things and they drove headstones of
people dying from drugs. And one of them said smoke too
much marijuana. And just, and all of the guys
who had long hair and listened to like Skid Row and rat and
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guys and roses, they're like fucking idiots.
And they're like, yeah, because all these kids were stoned.
But here I wanted to kind of talk about that with you, Ben.
And you've got a lot of information.
But you know, this is the old school weed, right?
70s to 90s. So the average THC content in
the 70s was 1.5 to 3%. In the 80s, it was 3 to 4.
Nineties, 4:00 to 6:00. But that's skewed, isn't it?
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Because on modern weed. Potentially 4 to 7, but even
then it's it's hard because it might also depend on where that
was found, where it was tested from.
A lot of it came from the University of Missouri and other
like collected sources of just DEA seizures and stuff that
happened. So a lot of it wasn't even
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stored properly. So oxidization and light can
degrade THC percentages over time.
So then when they finally went to test it, they used old data
technology with like a gas chromatography method, which
also degrades the THC percentages in that testing
process. So it's a very hard to calculate
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our exact percentages over the years.
But the thing that we've kind oftalked about, because I made a
post on TikTok the other day or on socialism, and it's been kind
of fun to see the commentary, was that change of THC
percentages over the years. Because now we're seeing a lot
of like high 20s, thirty percents, mid 30s.
We've even seen some high 30 percents, like 38 percent THC,
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and that's on flour. And so having that, they're not
always the best experiences. It's not like highest THC is
going to be your best experiencebecause when you grow to push
for highest THC, you get rid of other cannabinoids.
So you have less CBGCBNCBD, maybe a smaller spectrum of
terpenes than you would hope forbecause of that.
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So as we've talked about before,the entourage effect is almost
like a more complete high. And so if you're getting a
smaller range of cannabinoids and terpenes, well, your
complete high is probably going to be a little less complete
than what it might have the potential of being if it did
have that broader spectrum of cannabinoids and stuff.
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So it's looking back at all those people who used cannabis
back in the 60s, seventies, 80s,you know, and going, Hey, I'm
sure your your amazing experience from hash or flower
or whatever. I'm sure it was exactly what you
claim it was. But the THC percentage probably
wasn't necessarily the same as it is today.
And that's okay because that those two don't necessarily
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correlate high THC percentage and best experience.
Well, and and also the growing methods, because the growing
methods are going to change drastically once you put a lot
more botany into it instead of just green thumb in it.
You know you can't just throw this shit in your garden like a
tomato and expect it to be yieldthe best quality cannabis out
there. Not at all.
Cannabis is an extremely delicate plant in many ways if
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you want it to be able to produce the high amount of
cannabinoids that you're seeking.
She's a fickle mistress for sure.
She's a. Bitch, if you treat her
horribly, she's going to treat you horribly.
She doesn't take shit from anybody.
But the same time to say that THC levels were higher now than
then, Yes, I believe that. When you look at concentrates,
we didn't have concentrates in mass production now.
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Yeah, there was dab. Yeah, there was wax there.
Were things like well, in hash. Hash has been around for ages,
you know, back in Afghanistan, Hindu mountains all like all.
These they had high amounts of THC in there for sure, but we
can't do it. Hey, real quick, we're actually
going to break that one our friends over at.
Stash. Stash some of the best grinders
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that we've been. Able to use This is the one
we've been using on the show forGosh.
I've got a little one at house. I gave another one of mine away
to my brother-in-law. He still uses it to this day,
but they were so kind as to sendus.
They sent us so many goodies from their company, all their
grinders. We've got the same one as mine
and black a hemp 3D printed likeplastic.
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Look at this hemp cool hemp plastic dude.
I wouldn't dude, this is cool onthe sense of like one.
It's it just feels cool. It's actually it.
Doesn't feel, it's a very tactile like feeling to that
one. I do enjoy that.
Now Brandon's running the boat. Yeah, this one's like a party
grinder or if you're making edibles or if you're just
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hanging out with Brandon and need to smoke.
This is this is the bad one. That's what I said.
It's the identical to that. Just in black.
I love it, dude. Yeah.
See. Yeah.
'Cause this this is. It's got a tiny one in the top,
but it's slightly different. So Brandon's got a good size nug
here. Oh yeah, this.
Well, I guess you could say it'squite the nug.
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Yeah, it's quite the nug. Now drop it into the new
grinder. I want to.
I want to because that thing, look at the deepest of that
bowl, dude, That thing is massive.
That's like a cereal bowl. Throw some fucking Cheerios in
that. Yeah, you could literally eat
some soup, a bowl of cereal, andmaybe get some ice cream in
there and Gelato. Oh God, that perfect.
That's like a souffle dish. I know, and it doesn't have a
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Keef catcher because who needs that?
Nope, not me. Dude this thing is a beast.
Because it's got grip around theside.
That's what's really cool. Brandon's going to try and get.
He's going to get some squeakiness in there.
You know, when Brandon used to hear squeaking, he knew that his
parents were finally stopped fighting.
Oh. My God no.
We thankfully had some in floorswhen I was a teenager in between
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the main floor so you could not hear anything from upstairs.
Did I have friends is there? Her parents would just get at it
and they didn't care there. And I remember one time we were
like in her in her basement watching TV, and you could hear
like, Dang, dude, she probably came out with, like, bruises on
the top of her head. Yeah, she's like Wham, Wham,
Wham I? Can't walk?
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But one of the things that we'veloved about.
Staff, what am I going to do about my legs?
Quality quality grinders, great build, easy to clean.
Like how they and we've been. Friends with them.
For a while they don't have the blades or the diamond shape of a
lot of grinders. Yeah, they have these nubs.
Nubbins. They've got sweet nubbins.
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Which is really nice on on certain aspects it will really
make a grind fine. Well, it's supposed to not grind
it. It's supposed to tear it apart
nicely, so it doesn't. But I find that with this I get
more powdery, powdery weed. So I'm curious on interesting to
get on this one. Yeah, this, this beast.
Well, I mean, that one's all. Let's see.
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That yeah, that's. Really cool.
It's all grounded. I like it, it's almost like a
gear. I know it feels totally
different with those ridges versus the perfectly smooth
pull. That out that's cool and it's
dude, you could literally grind.This is great.
Like what you said, this is goodfor a party or you're just like,
I just love deep bowls. Like that's cool.
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If you smoke a good amount. That would like be overflowing.
Oh yeah, depends on the grinder.That small one, the little
travel guy, That one probably would fill it up.
This one. 'S cool.
I like it just for the simple fact that this could be for
almost anything Psilocybin, cannabis, whatever, hemp if
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you're so inclined. But I love the build because
look at that no Keith catcher, just straight in and it's
perfect. It's a perfect size for You're
on the go, do you? Looks like a fucking hockey.
Puck I know that's I thought it would be perfect for like just
sticking in your little bag or something when you go camping.
It's the perfect to go 1. Man this is so cool, so you got
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a link or anything like that? Yeah, the link will be in the
show notes for stash code code will be in the show notes.
Go check out stash check out their dope grinders.
They have fantastic products. They've got a battery for like
5-10 thread. Yeah, they apparently used to
make an e-mail. They don't offer it anymore, but
they had a post on Instagram andabout it.
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And I was like, holy shit, I didn't know you guys made an
e-mail and you're like, well, westopped.
We found this one like back in the back somewhere.
I was like, holy shit, I didn't didn't know you guys even made
those. You.
Know, I'm a big fan of Stash. I like really good grinders.
Yeah, shredders. Yes, well these.
Shredders are great. That's crazy.
This is interesting because it came for with a new grinder and
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it's supposed it's like a rubbery 1 and I don't know what
that would do as far as like theexperience on your flower, but
it just it's the same spot I'm. Glad you didn't try it out right
now, but it looks like I'm getting dirty as.
Fuck. OK, but look at this though.
You know how we were talking about that smooth.
Oh, this has it too actually. That line that separates the
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things that Shredder had. This has that same stuff.
But the rubber? The line the rubber is nuts.
It feels so weird. Do that.
What? Yeah.
It's like it doesn't belong. No, it's so weird.
I love that bevel though, right there so it keeps it from being.
Sticky fantastic I. Wonder if that would really help
with wet weed. Oh yeah, because.
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Grinders tend to get really gummed up with your fresher just
I mean, it's cured, it's dried, all that stuff.
But we've got a lot of mad love for Dragonfly because they make
some the best weed we've. Ever.
So I never ever use my keef and because we don't have much,
because most of our stuff is pretty sticky, it's pretty dank.
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And so I don't end up with most keef.
So I really don't. I, I never care for a keef
catcher much because since I stopped shopping in Colorado, my
products have stopped being so dry that I end up with a fuck
ton of keef. I know that's terrible to say,
but there's a lot of reality, like a lot of truth behind and I
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didn't really think about that, but most of mine that was really
dry was all Colorado flower I was getting.
I missed George Jetson, I finished her off, you know.
Still love these guys. Wish I could get a we could get
a hold of them. Yeah, if you guys have a
favorite bong or a peace company, it's like this.
Drop it in the comments below. We've loved George Jetson, but
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we haven't heard from them in a hot minute.
I. Don't know if they're busy.
I don't know if they're still inbusiness.
I know a lot of our our our audience and our friends here
that we get to share. Like you have loved them.
They've gotten the big ones, they've gotten these little
ones, which is fucking huge. But I got to tell you, it's one
of the best bongs out there. But we are, I know there's a lot
of percolating bongs out there, but if you know of one or you
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own that company, reach out to us.
All right, so back to it on the percentage side.
Like the thing that really gets me is that that article coming
out and this is somebody hit me up saying, hey, look, man, I'm
really freaked out. I just got into cannabis.
I'm using edibles and I see thisand I'm in my late 40s.
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I don't want to have a heart attack or stroke.
And I was like, OK, so here's some things that weren't
considered in that factor in that study.
They gathered that from 2016 to 23 and it was across the world,
which means it wasn't a concise study, it was random studies
grabbed. We don't have all the data.
They don't have dosing, they don't have times of using the
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cannabis. They're premorbidity conditions.
Well, and the thing I'm curious on is it's, it's not a long term
study of, hey, these people had used cannabis for this long.
Here's their twin who didn't use, here's their twin who did
use and were like seeing or sibling or closest relative that
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we can find. So we can have like comparisons
or like the closest thing to a any sort of double block, like
any sort of data that makes sense.
It's probably all been compiled like you said from different
sources. But I would look at that and go,
it's probably not been a data oflike, hey, this was tested for
heart things. It was like, hey, this person
went to the hospital for this and they also we used cannabis.
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Using. Cannabis, yes.
And so it's like, OK, well, that's not the same thing as a
study of like, hey. We followed this guy for this
many. Years and we noticed that due to
just cannabis use because nothing else in his life he
lived the most healthy lifestylediet, sleep, you know exercise,
mental health all of that was perfectly in line.
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So, you know, like how many of those are we actually tracking?
And I would guess that the the percentage is 0.
Well, and it just goes down to everything else, right?
If it bleeds, it leads. So where social media or
anything like that, if it takes storm, if there was a study out
there that says smoking cannabisat percentages higher than 15%
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will make your Dick bigger, it would sell out.
Tomorrow. Oh my God.
Yeah, right. Yep.
It'll make your tits. Bigger.
Well, just that comment alone, we probably already did sell out
anything above 15%. Yeah, but I mean, it's like you
think about it like when people start getting so hyped up about
what somebody said instead of really looking into the
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research, right? That like you have it in the
palm of your hand, it can be free.
Just simply go to chat and say give me a no bullshit about the
history of cannabis and how it'shurt people.
Now, again, I'm going to go intothat, right?
Let's look at the other side of this coin.
Yes, it can cause problems. High concentrate THC is not good
for your heart. When we kind of talked about
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that, because long term stress patterns that we've seen in like
my dad or other people who have had long term stress where it's
like, hey, your blood pressure is insanely high and your heart
cannot handle this long term. It will rupture bursts.
You will have complications happen from that.
And I would wager that if peopleare doing 1G dabs constantly, if
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they're putting their heart in this crazy overworked,
overstressed state, like you said, even marathon runners or
things could have that long term.
So, so if you look at these longterm things of hey, is it more
just what is the stress that we're putting on our heart?
Is it more than what it really should have long term?
Like yes, it's great. Our body can do amazing things,
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but is that amazing thing necessarily the best thing for
us in 30, fifty, 6000 years fromnow?
Well. And that goes to the point of
like your higher amounts of THC,such as dabs.
Like dabs I'm a big fan of. I love dabs.
Oh yeah. I love them for what they are
now. Some of the drawbacks on dabs
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for me, if it's not a lot, it doesn't last and I get a lot of
THC all at once, but I don't need to use as much.
But you can end up chasing that dragon.
And why say that? I used to start with like tiny
bits of dab, yes. Now I do a little glob.
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But you like. The size of a booger.
Because you started at the pointof like 1 pen hit was good.
No, it's not one pen hit anymore.
So I look at that most of the time and it's like yeah, it has
gone up. But is your glob my glob size
are you? So you know, I look at.
It but I'm like it, but it is still I mean and that shows that
a lot of people like those who only have access to concentrates
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just because they're blessed, you're going to run up a high
tolerance pretty quickly. So that's a negative side.
Also the high heart rate of different strains.
It can hurt your heart over longperiods of time especially.
If you're doing larger doses, totally like because you can do
the small dose like we did at the beginning where I was like,
hey, just take the tiny pin headsize and your dab was super
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small, tiny and then it's the same as like a pen head, you
know, So that is that is an ability that you do have still,
but it's. Even flour can go the same
route. I mean, you remember we were
like we were dude. Like I have jars, bags of
decarboxylated flour sitting in a dark cabinet right now.
That's another thing. If you got decarb flour, don't
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be letting that shit sit out with everything.
Put it in dark place. But the the amount of THC that
is available today, yes, it is alot higher because we're able to
test better and we actually knowit's impossible to be able to
take older data. It's it's saying the same thing,
right? Like, you know it, It's like.
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How some Christian face, not just Mormons, but they'll go,
yeah, well, you know, dinosaur bones aren't real.
They were put here by Satan. Yeah.
And you're like. These are the funniest.
What? And you're like, that doesn't
make any sense. But that was based off of a
belief. Just to test you, you know.
And that's where I think that there's this really fine line
between data, actual facts and beliefs.
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Yeah. And belief, because it's
emotional. I think that's why it leads
people to being so afraid whenever the media who has some
type of special interest involved.
Oh yeah, To strike that down. Well, it's, it's the fear, it's
that, hey, if we can manipulate this, like if we can say this,
how many people 'cause how many people are getting into cannabis
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now? Like we look at even Texas and
Texas has only hemp Dr. productsand THCA and yet they're in.
Was it a 2 or $3 billion industry just in Texas alone in
the last couple years without having real cannabis there and.
Imagine. No.
That's one of the largest 3 primed markets for cannabis when
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they do. And I I truly believe that
Texans it'll happen sooner, maybe maybe later.
But anyways, I mean it's alreadyhappening later.
There's more of a black market in Texas too.
I bet the black market probably 10X is whatever they're making
in hemp. I would take so because I have a
friend down not in Texas, but inFlorida and I guess I have
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friends in Texas too, but in Florida he was talking about it
and they have kind of very similar things where it's all
like the hemp derived shit that he's getting unless you have a
medical card like well, why don't you get a medical card
'cause it's probably like 2530 bucks down there.
He's like, well, we might be moving back to Utah, so I just
don't know if I'm going to get it yet.
I'm like, that's horrible. I would get it in a heartbeat.
I got a medical card when I was in California for a week because
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I was like the area I'm in only has medical.
So Oceanside, that sucked. I could pay 50 bucks, get a
medical card and then have cannabis delivered to me and I
was like, cool, I'd do that. And I did.
And it was great because I granted, I paid like 50-60 bucks
an eighth for two different aids.
But it you know, it's out in themiddle of nowhere, California,
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like you, you get what you get. But it mean that's the thing
too, like, you know, we do know the Gray market is there and a
lot of them push carts and THC percentages.
And that's another thing you have to remember that your pen,
I got one with me. Your pen is concentrated.
This is high concentrated THC. This is not, this isn't what the
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plant was meant to produce, but because they can concentrate it,
that's where dabs and these comeinto play.
These. Not even the same as like, not
even close. They used to have hashes and
other concentrates, but they weren't naturally made and they
didn't have the same chemicals and stuff.
So you can get like a very cleanhash, but it's way harder to
find. And it's more expensive because
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it's now it's craft. And The thing is, it's like what
Brandon and I have been talking about.
Like I love dabs. I do.
I like it. We've had some amazing partners.
Doctor Dabber Bomb, you guys areamazing.
Oh, we'll have those links belowcause 710 is coming up.
Oh, if you are in Utah. Oh.
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Shit dragonfly event where you can go get a puffco pivot for
the cost of a puffco pivot you. Get 100 and 3000.
And sixty you can get the your medical card in Utah for 50
bucks and you can get a gram of their like Super Booth live Ross
and concentrate or of their concentrate.
For $1.00. $1.00. What the fuck?
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Yeah, so you get. If you're not there Utah, buy
that shit. I know.
Fuck up. Yeah.
And if you are driving by, just come up be like Oh my God my leg
hurts. Yeah, just say, hey, cannabis
school sent us, where did we getour Puffco Peak 'cause we want a
$1.00. Oh, pivot, puffco, pivot,
puffco, pivot. And then they're doing giveaways
for like the Puff Peak, some other stuff.
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We're going to be chilling, hanging out.
So come stop by Dragonfly up in Salt Lake.
That's going to be cool, but theeven the concentrate, because
that's that was a really cool conversation.
This kind of somewhat spiked this conversation was we were
having a conversation with Dragonfly and as we were talking
about it like we've used their concentrate.
It's per ricey people so fuckingpricey, especially from you've
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got a plug where you're being able to get dab for like what 15
bucks? Yeah, 1520 bucks a a gram and
you're buying it for $70.00 for a gram 8090 sometimes.
But but but, but I will say the ones that I'm like, if you're
looking at a $20.20 dollar plug gram, you're probably getting
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like a batter a butter. Yep, not a live rosin, not a
live resin. And if I'm paying, even at
Dragonfly their $80 gram was super poof.
Live rosin and. The quality of the product when
you're banger. Other biomass that goes into.
Dude, it just disappeared. You can tell it's, it's like the
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five star, right? When you look at the five star
at the burning rate over there, you know, what is it turning
into? Does it look dark?
Or I have like nothing left. Yeah, it just disappears.
Like you just put in a dry swab and it's clean.
I don't get that in my. I mean, after a while your
banger will start to develop anda little bit of brown in there
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just because of just the time. But I'll tell you like having a
high quality hash is, you know and they're.
Going to have hash makers there.Yeah, that's going to be super
cool and. Hella exciting.
You guys can meet the hash makers who actually make the
hash. Yeah, we're going to be able to
ask them a ton of questions. We'll be doing the we got a lot
of cool stuff in the live, but you know, kind of button this
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up. You know, for me right now,
where I'm I'm sitting at is thatI don't see it as a war being
waged on cannabis. It's war being waged on soft
minded individuals. Be curious, look into it.
Don't always take what they say as Hey, it's bad for you.
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These are the same people that said that carbohydrates need to
be the number one food source inyour life.
They created this bliss totally.If you have a question, ask us.
Research it, Google it, talk to chat GP.
Like there's a million ways to find out if there's no.
Excuse these days, yeah. And and that's what really
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frustrates me is that the media still keeps thinking that people
are that fucking stupid and the people who are trapped
underneath that bias. There are some.
Yeah, well, I mean they are fucking stupid.
But The thing is, is it's the only reason why is because they
were either hard pressure and brought up by being
institutionalized with fear of anything, right?
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Yet at the same time, you could see advertisements for alcohol,
meaning that you could be #1 if you just started drinking this
shit, right? It doesn't make sense.
The proudest thing that I heard about from my son recently, his
buddies were getting together. I mean, he just graduated high
school and stuff and his buddieswanted to get together, kind of
get drunk for the weekend. And he's like, that's lame.
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I mean, they're like, why is that lame?
He's like, it'd be better if youjust smoked weed and not get
into trouble. He's like, I don't know why you
would want to mess your body up with that.
He's like that straight poison. And they end up doing really
stupid. Shit, but dude, the the coolest
thing they go, well, have you ever drank it?
He goes no, and I'll never need to.
He's like, I've learned a lot about cannabis, like whatever
his relationship with cannabis is his relationship with
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cannabis. You know he's not.
I'm not giving it to him. I'm not selling it to my son,
but he's he respects the plant alot and he knows a lot based off
of all of the the time that we have spent learning and growing
our knowledge. I mean, we're pretty
knowledgeable about cannabis to this point.
You listen to our first episode,especially Casey Jones, and I
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was saying Davy Jones. Remember that?
That did make me try. Dude, I, I listened to that just
a little while ago and I oh, really funny.
Dude, we didn't do too bad. That's why our our some of our
number ones, our very first ones.
That's hilarious. It is good to hear but that's an
18 year old man right young man?But I'm getting ignorance from
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50603040 year olds people and you're like, where is this
coming from? You You have information right
here and you and it's so biased for you.
Just dig a little past page one on Google.
Like really don't just listen towhat the mass media tells you
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because there's a purpose. Be there special interest behind
that. Why would they do that?
What's the alternative that's coming out?
And I think this is conspiracy time that they're trying to
create another synthetic cannabinoid to take the place so
that they can own the THC. Well, there already is too.
I know. But I mean, I think that they're
really, they're developing something to try and kill.
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There'll be more, yeah, because it'll be pharma has this one,
this one, this one, and they're all FDA approved and all through
this. So you don't have to worry about
it. The problem you don't think
about is, and I think about thismore often because the whole not
having the Netflix without ads. So my Netflix has ads and you
know what? I get a lot of alcohol and
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medications. Oh, totally.
And yet the one thing that basically like I see the alcohol
ones, I just kind of chuckle at and I'm like, that's really
fucking stupid. I I'm not gonna.
I used to do one of the best. I used to love I got.
To give you a link to put down there the best alcohol
commercial, Ray Liotta, who's anactor.
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He's dead now. Ray Liotta for 1800 tequila.
OK. It is motivational.
It is inspirational. It is storytelling at its best.
And at the end, you're like, dude, he's talking about you
being a better person. And I'm like, whoa.
And there's like this boxing match going on.
And he's like an old Mexico. There's this hot Latina.
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She's like, hey, do you want to come over?
You want to keep drunk on 1800 tequila?
Come here, Papi. And he comes over and he's like,
what's going on? Saying you're Rita and all of
the sudden at the end he's just like, yeah, I'm the best because
I drink 1800 tequila and I'm like, good God, that was
brilliant. That was brilliant.
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You make me want to drink it. And that's what I love about
marketing. Yeah, but.
But the the ones I've seen now, they don't do that.
Yeah, they're dumb. And I'm like, you're not
inspiring me to want to have a drink.
But then I watched the the medication ones and everything
that's produced that's FDA approved comes with a long list
of side effects, including like leaky butt hole, loss of
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friends, loss of kidney, loss ofleft eye, your left testicle
turns into a booth like all of these things.
And you're like, possible death.What?
But I could use cannabis. No, you don't want to do that
because like, you might kill some brain cells.
Inverted erection syndrome like your penis just goes inside you
and you're. Like what in the world?
What? But yeah, there's this list of
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medications. What does it help with eczema?
You're like what? That's exactly now with Ebglis
and I'm like what the fuck is this like Oh my God.
It's going to finally turn into like they're really desperate
and they're thinking like the generation younger and all the
medications are going to be in cereal and they're just going to
be like, just add milk. Yeah, just add milk.
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Well, this is amazing. I love eating.
I love eating my Zoloft. Every morning, it's like the
Rick and Morty Future episode where everyone's eating pills
and the world's run by robots and the robots do all the real
jobs. And so Jerry's like, yeah,
Jerry's like the head of one of the governments because it's
Jerry. Yeah.
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And they're like, oh, yeah, you're bringing down, like, A5
pill chewable salary or something.
It's like OK. Well, dude, it's like the this
thing like I, I use a GL P1, which is like Ozempic,
tricipatide, bunch of different ones.
OK. But The thing is, is that that
medication is going at extremelyhigh doses for people, and they
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say it's the minimum and you're watching like these celebrities.
Oh yeah, they are turning into ghouls, Yeah.
It's sad. It is because it literally looks
like they're concentration camp survivors.
And I'm like, this is horrendous, why would you do
that to yourself? The way they always talk about
it, it's like freedom and stuff like that, which I get.
But you know what, they should have it going feeling like a fat
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fuck. Well here now you got a shot.
Get rid of that fat fuck Ness. And you were like, if I heard a
commercial like that and I felt like a fat fuck, I'd be like,
you know what, I am sick of being a fat fuck.
But they dress it up as life changing and.
But it's always the celebrities who are not big to begin with.
Dude they look like the cast from Fallout.
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Yeah, it looks horrible. They like Sharon Osbourne, that
sounds like. Hilarious.
Oh my gosh, I'm a. It looks like fucking Rango.
I mean, dude, it's, it's bad andit's, you know where people go.
Oh, well, there's nothing out there.
There's a lot out there. There's a lot out there.
You know, honestly, I tell people that have a a problem
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with obesity and like smoke weed.
It's already like, oh I'll get to lower your PM munchies and
Nope. You.
Make good decisions. Yeah, well, but that's their
problem is making it that's. Why they're in, the players that
commit they're in. I was a fat fuck for.
Honestly, I just always I have acrazy metabolism, but I always
ate whatever I wanted and it hasn't been until the last
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handful of years that I've started to realize a lot more
stuff And even like the the stuff that's like you eat your
food like medicine or you eat your medicine like food.
It's, you know, we have life harder when we're young, if we
want life easier when we're old,like we work harder, we go to
the gym, we do these things so our bodies don't hurt.
So we have money. So we have all these things that
it's like, you know, we do things so that we can have
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things certain ways, but then wedon't always do it.
It it's just looking at it going, oh, shoot, that's
probably a better approach so that I don't have more pain
later. It's like the Dalai Lama, the
art of happiness, but going intoit of like life is suffering,
like everyone suffers and throughout our life, the theme
and pattern is probably suffering filled with moments of
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joy and like overwhelming happiness and stuff.
But like overall, like I live with chronic pain.
Every single moment of every dayhas has, yeah.
But there's so much beauty and joy to be found in the present
moment, in like colors, in nature, in connection and stuff
that you lose when we focus on our suffering and on all of
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that. Really, and it's hard not to get
caught in that trap and every single one of us will get caught
in it. There's not one person that will
not get caught in that. But you know, that's one of the
things that I really like about.And this is the, you know, to
talk about how THC effects like,you know, recently had a
conversation with Brandon about,you know, how I had realized a
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lot of the things that I was doing that were not harmonious
with other people and where I, Ipledge and I talk about, you
know, connection before anythingelse.
And yeah, I was being not necessarily just hypocritical,
but I was very unaware of what Iwas doing and how cannabis was
able to take tropical runts, which is what we're smoking
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right now. Tropical runts, Like that strain
for me is very introspective. I was able to take 20 years of
shit and explain to my wife why I've been acting a certain way,
and I didn't have that clarity 20 minutes before.
I was arrogant. I wanted to be right.
I got research to back my fucking claims and I was
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spiraling where the cannabis, which is at a percentage of 20
to 25%, was the right dose. So I'm thinking like the higher
percentages on THC don't necessarily mean it's going to
be more harmful. Yes, there needs to be more
education. You are selling a product to
somebody who has a instruction booklet.
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No, there needs to be more educational content, like what
we do, but on top of it even more in depth or spoken plainly
like Sesame Street. That's a fun idea, by the way.
We should totally do it with fucking.
Puppets, ah. Yeah, dude, we got to do that,
Muppets. If you guys know of anybody who
does puppets and stuff, get in touch with us.
Anyways, we'd love to do a wholeskits with puppets just look
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like Brandon and Jet. That would be hilarious areas
that would be like the the ones with the hands like this like oh
dude. Anyways, but to to come back to
it like yes, the percentages mayhave been lower then, but we
don't know truly they could havebeen much higher.
The reason why we see the percentages going up is that the
testing quality had gone up, so.Well, also it could have been
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less time to degrade. It could have been.
All of these who grew it, Yeah. Did they grow up because they
didn't put the amount of? Just because it's confiscated in
a specific time doesn't mean that that grower was even as
good of a grower as this other one.
And so. It was a It was a commonly used
harmonious plant. Well, that's kind of a you think
about it. It's kind of a ludicrous data
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set to even compile because if Igo to like even one dispensary,
the difference in quality of bud, it ranges so drastically
that to select even a handful ofnugs could go, oh, well, this
was what it was. Well, but maybe not because you
misconstrued the data because ifyou looked at this one, it was
actually way higher. So again, like it's a, it's a
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very weird data set. But that's the thing that I
always asked in the comments on that post was if you have data,
sure, I would love to see it. I would love to see it because
the only data that can be found is that it was really low and
it's kind of trickled up and we're a lot higher percentage
now. But again, that doesn't mean the
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experience wasn't great or that you didn't have a really good
high or have all this stuff way back then.
It just means maybe there might be a difference in percentages
because our focus and push now is to try and push to get a
slightly higher THC percentage and and that's it.
Exactly and and talking back to those who were consuming
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cannabis in the 70s, eighties, 90s, whatever.
And they're, they take it now and they're like, whoa, this is
so strong compared to that. They are a tourist in cannabis
now where they're not actually. Using.
Touch it. They barely touch it because
guess what happens when you smoke anything that you haven't
touched in a long time? You get really fucking high.
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There's no. Right.
If you went without weed for three months, Brandon and you, I
came back and the first thing I greeted you with off the plane
was in the car. It was this thing.
And I'm like, bro, we got that and I've got about half a pound
on the back for you. Just go crazy, right?
Brandon wouldn't even be able toget 1/4 of that bowl.
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He'd be fucking stoned out of his mind.
So for those who are speaking asan authority from that time.
Those were beautiful days. I'm I.
Still feel good on it. It just isn't the same as taking
in two hours to mow a lawn that's the size of most people's
front lawn. Like, I mean, you know, because
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it was great. That's a hell of a task.
Yeah, but now I could mow my lawn in 40 minutes higher than
height and I'll be like perfect lines.
But that's the thing. Like if you, if you're speaking
from a place where you don't have a lot of experience in it,
just, you know, get more acclimated to what is available
now, learn a little bit more about terpenes.
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You didn't give a shit about that then.
Get CBD, Get high in CBD or CBG strains if you can.
Start learning. Really about that CBG?
Low and slow, have lemon juice on hand.
Like there's so many ways that you can try and make your
experience. There's no excuse not to have a
good experience on cannabis or at least have an exit plan.
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Yeah, have a better experience than you might have, because not
every strain might be the best experience, and if you are new
to it, consuming another strain might not be the best option for
you. If you're already very high,
get. More information on that strain
as much. You know, guys, I mean, we tell
you we got so many things working.
We've we put a lot of time in it.
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We have, we have a team of developers that we've been
working with to develop something like that.
So you can have that on hand as a resource for certain things
like that awesome strain journalthat goes there.
So it starts to work within AI to be able to sell you like
recommend strains based off of the ones you've been using.
And find you stuff that helps you.
Dude, and we just were thinking like this would be so cool to be
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able to offer and and we're totally done.
I mean. And it's in the workings.
Yeah, it's in the workings and it's going to be free.
We just, we want you guys to have a far more edge because you
know what it's going to do, man.All these percentage talks and
stuff like this 1015 years from now are going to be a thing of
the past. We're going to have amazing
weight at that time because these kids that are growing up
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are starting to figure out less kids are drinking these days.
Oh yeah, I've been really happy with it.
And I haven't read the the actual physical data, but at
least like there's a lot of headlines that are pushing out
that kids are drinking less. But I also wonder if that's why
I see so many ads for alcohol isto push more into that because.
Oh, they're trying. It was like big tobacco.
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I didn't see as many, granted I haven't watched commercials for
ages but like there was a time that I didn't see like Super
Bowl time, obviously beer commercials and stuff but like
majority there wasn't a lot of alcohol commercials.
I was growing up, I saw a lot ofalcohol commercials.
When you were younger or like. Well, I I I had unfettered
access to my TV after school as I.
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Feel like there's one. We're in there.
Wham. Right, I did I.
Had I had unfettered access, butI.
During school. Yeah, no, but no, like at at
night time, like that's when allthe ads would come on, you'd see
some like cop show and my parents would, they would watch
everything. And if we watch with them, cool.
Like that was literally the onlyfamily time I that we really
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spent. We did other family things and
just saying that was the majority of the time very
Americana. But the to think about from then
to now, I lost what I was going to say.
What was it what we were talkingabout right there before you
started sneezing? God I didn't remember those
sneezes. Kind of took me for a loop.
Anyways, let's go back to that see, but the thing that you're
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looking at, this is what I wanted to get back to earlier.
So thank you for that, for resetting my tangent because
this weed is amazing. Thanks.
Causation doesn't mean correlation.
What does that mean? It means that just because
certain symptoms and things havehappened for other people, such
as heart attack, stroke, anxietyattacks, heart murmur, stuff
like that, it's typically something else that's
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underlining it's a medical condition with that person.
So if you have hypertension, getchecked out, Talk to somebody
who actually knows about cannabis in that one probably
going to point you more to like teachers that are like 1 to 20
or whatever like really like minimal THC dose seems to slowly
build you up so you can go OK cuz.
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You titrate your dose so you don't go into the really high
experiences. So you're, I mean, you want the
benefits, right? You enjoy the high.
But if you are not a person who consumes thinking about like
you've got your very conservative people or you've
got your elderly people, actually, I find more elderly
people are way more open to cannabis than ever before.
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I don't think I've ever been told by an older person.
They go, I had a guy come up to me in my neighborhood and he's
like, hey, I know you're all about cannabis.
And I'm like, and he goes, my mom and my sisters all died of
dementia. Does this help?
And I'm like, yeah, anecdotally,yes.
And I was like, but it's, it's anice lubricant.
It's it's like medicine. It's like vitamins.
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If you take it, it can help. And he's like, yeah, yeah, I
need to talk about that. The vow, LDS guy, all that
stuff. And yet even inside this church,
they're super against it. Yeah, for sure.
But. Then we like the episode we had
with Barry, who was even using it before it was ever legal and
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stuff here for a decade, you know, and, and I think that's
beautiful when people can find that.
Or even the Wimmer's grandma whohad cancer 20 years ago here and
she used cannabis, that was agesago, long before it was ever
legal or even remotely considered legal here.
And so there is some people who have found that like exception
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of hey, this is value or medicine for this person I love
in this specific moment, but then shun it and so many others
you. Know it's the, you know,
honestly, it really comes down to guys is that it's having
conversations like what we're having right now being open
about it saying you know what isgoing on about it instead of
just believing A hype, you know,and, and my wife is a prime
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example of being grown up and being very close minded because
the parents are trying to protect their children it's.
The mindset that was taught. It was, but now I think that
bleeds over where they're like concerned about it.
My wife is less concerned of my kids ever using cannabis and
she's also less concerned that they'll ever use alcohol.
And and I'm I'm big on that. I'm I'm very against alcohol
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now. I lost a very, very close and
dear friend to alcohol. I've got family members who are
Alcoholics. That scares me.
But it was all worried about me smoking weed.
And I'm like, dude, I'm healthier than rescue.
Motherfuckers like it it and, and just because like you look
at somebody who seems healthy. This is for body and mind and
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spirit for me. That's what cannabis does.
So don't just think that it's about sleep and all that stuff.
I guarantee a lot of us are out of balance and sometimes you
just need to gain some perspective.
And the Green Queen here, man. Tropical rents.
Sweet little mess, but. Any of them, and that's why
there's so many of them out. There.
Oh, I just meant today. Oh dude, this is brilliant.
Very cottonmouthy. I know.
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But not clicky cottonmouth like my lips feel like they're all
like like dried and crack from the Sahara when they're totally
don't look like that. But that's the way they feel.
No, this has been an awesome combo, bro.
Because yesterday I think that the funniest thing was out of
it. And this, this is a quote from
our friend Nerath. I loved it.
He's like, so you're telling me that you want to lower the
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percentage on the quality of theefficacy of cannabis?
You wouldn't do that to pain pills.
You wouldn't go over there going, hey, that pain pill, I
only want it to be about 80% effective.
Yeah. I don't care what the other 20%
of stuff that you add in there is, but just lower, whatever,
just just lower it. I don't need it to be as strong.
This is like, that's the dumbestfucking thing I've ever heard.
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You know how to do that? Learn dosing.
Learn dosing. Other fucking medicine, dude.
You know, it's not like how muchweed did you take?
A handful. OK, don't trust that guy.
Yeah, I know. But you know, going.
Hey, Yeah. Well, how much weed did you
take? I don't know.
It depends. What time of day is it?
What have I done today? What's my diet going on?
What's my mental health like? Yeah, so.
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Be more aware of that the the percentages.
Don't let the percentages scare you.
Ultimately, you're the one who allows it into your own body, so
go low and slow. Yeah, as we always preach.
And TuneIn next week. Yeah.
Love you guys. Take care.
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