May 29, 2025 • 50 mins
What happens when Brandon steps into the role of a villain and Jesse dons the cape of a superhero? Pure chaos and laughs ensue! Dive into a wild episode where the Cannabis School duo explores their alter egos. Jesse, the righteous hero, battles Brandon, the crafty villain, all while discussing the nuances of cannabis and having a blast.
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• Jesse’s superhero origin story and how he uses his powers for good
• Brandon’s villainous schemes and why being bad can be oh-so-fun
• The hilarious dynamics between hero and villain
• What their showdown teaches us about cannabis culture and life
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(00:02):
I'm Brandon. And I'm.
Jesse we're cannabis school having cannabis infused
conversations with everyday people, cannabis companies,
celebrities and your mom. Welcome to the Sash.
Today, kids on the Sash. We're going to have a bit of
fun. We're going to play make
believe. Yeah, and we're.
Going to use our friend chat to be able to do it.
(00:23):
And this is some funny shit we were coming up with cause so
Brandon started going through all these ideas and he's like,
Oh yeah, what if we're what kindof superpowers would we have?
And I got real crazy into it. So I'm going to use this as the
catalyst. It's like mine has its own Oh.
Hold on, I'm going to it. We're going to use it.
It's all stems from this strain called Elysian 9.
(00:45):
All right, the status contained mostly.
Before we get into that, Oh yeah, we need to, we're going to
be, we're going to be trying these new rose delights.
Yeah, out in Los Angeles, we were able to stop in and pick up
these. These are fantastic.
Look at that packaging. It's like the Apple of edibles.
Oh, it's so smear. That dude, look at that.
And it's like 10 milligrams a piece in there.
(01:07):
Yeah, they're and they've got, I've got high energy.
That's the one, it says. That's what I popped 4 of right
now and I've got another one in my hand because they're only 10
milligrams. So they're pretty low dose,
well, depending on your dose. Now here's what's unique about
this the amount of flavors in this.
It even says it right here. I hate chewing into the mic and
(01:29):
a bunch of people said fuck, I already heard it.
All right. A fruit and vegetable green
juice blend infused with a single strain flour rosin with
goji Berry, coffee, coffee, cherry tea and lion's mane for
higher energy experience. It's got 1 milligram of CBD in
each of those ones. At least now they send it like
(01:51):
we got, we got six different types there.
So we've got like their deeper sleep.
We've got some sour grape. We have like rhubarb and some
like there's, there's all sorts of flavors that they send.
Us maybe we have different, thisone has 10 milligrams THC and 1
milligram of CBG. I thought it was CBD on the that
package. I think it says CBD.
(02:12):
It's. All new.
Yeah. I think on the plastic one right
there that it came in the sleeve.
I think it also says 1 milligramCBD does it?
Oh yeah. So I wonder if it has CBD and
CBD and just that's fantastic. It's pretty good.
I I think it tastes pretty good.Packaging is pretty bad ass.
Did they send? They give us a code.
I don't think so from them, but I'll message them before this
(02:35):
airs and see if we can get a code for it.
Yeah, if you are in LA, Rose delights they.
Might be all over California, actually, but they are so
delicious. Tasty Like yeah.
It's fantastic. If you we know we got a lot of
listeners out there in Cali. Do you guys have other edible
strains or companies that you really like about it?
(02:56):
Let us know. Oh this is awesome.
Yeah. You'll have to let me know what
you feel from that or where you get because 50 milligrams isn't
going to touch me really, but I do.
I really like the flavor. I I like the flavor.
And it's just a nice little likeaddition to whatever I do, yeah.
Oh, that's all it's going to do.Yeah.
And when it kicks in. But I like the flavor.
(03:16):
It's fantastic. And I'm sure just the amount of
detail put into this, I'm sure it's going to be a great
experience. So.
So let's let's hear about your Elysium.
OK, so or this is funny shit dude, it created like the chat
credit is hilarious. OK, so the strain files called
Elysium 9, it's contained mostlyclassification genomic anomaly,
(03:41):
interdimensional interdimensional psychoactive
warning. This is not a strain, this is a
threshold. All right, the origin of bloom
at lab 9 decades ago beneath theUtah salt flats, a private
sector biotech initiative known as Elysium enhance liminal yield
(04:02):
synthetic interdimensional unified mind began work on a non
terrestrial cannabinoid found ina meteorite fragment that
crashed in 1973. The researchers cultivated it
with the genetic material of a rare pre extinct land races and
(04:22):
quantum crystallized by celium. Jesus Christ.
The results was strain 9, the 9th of only surviving plant in
the experiment. It didn't behave like a plant,
it pulsed under spectral imagingin trichomes, hummed in
patterns, no light, no sound, something in between, something
(04:46):
that responded through. This is the funniest shit ever
dude. It says the taste the.
Taste. Impossible to describe.
First puff tastes like a childhood memory you forgot
existed. Second taste is like your soul
wanted to say during its worst heartbreak.
High users don't get high, they faze.
(05:08):
Each person who smokes Alicia 9 shifts into a parallel thread
where one truth they would bid avoiding becomes reality.
For some it's ecstasy, for others, oblivion.
Dude, that's hilarious. Some doctor let it out.
That's how he got it out there. And then I got it, and then I
(05:29):
smoked it, and I don't know whathappened to me.
So you turn it. So Brandon spoke the same thing.
What did you turn into? So I didn't go with Elysium.
I just had to figure out like what was I was IA super villain
was IA superhero, What was Brandon?
(05:50):
And it said that well, my name was the Chronicler or the Bong
father, Bong father of Time or dank Phantom.
And I was like, oh Bong father of time at work.
But it says once a kind hearted sesh legend known for calming
rooms and feeding friends, you were corrupted by a sentient nug
of galactic garlic that gave youtoo much clarity.
(06:13):
Now you wander the sesh circuit,speaking in riddles, twisting
vibes and always 2 steps ahead because I've already smoked that
timeline so I can trap people invivid, hyper real high memories.
So they forget where they are and they're alive and they'll
relive those. So they relive that one time
(06:33):
they said the wrong name on a date.
Or, you know, when they missed the pizza delivery while in the
bathroom. Or like when they first screened
out at their granddad's, You know?
So weaponizing nostalgia and second hand embarrassment just
kind of creating disruption. So I, I have this, what is a
(06:54):
superpower called snack theft teleportation.
And I don't walk. I blink from bag of chips to
cookie jar to fridge. And every time someone opens
food while I'm high, oh while they're high, there's a 10%
chance that I appear behind themand say you're going to finish
that. The infinite tangent where once
I start talking, no one can escape the spiral.
(07:15):
No, that's mine. I know I just gave it to me
because I'm a. Super.
I know, I get. That's your superpower.
A convo about lighters because becomes a breakdown of fire
evolution and toaster mechanics.Toaster mechanics?
What the fuck? Yeah, so I leave friends dazed,
wondering how I get from Jurassic Park to the economic
collapse of Blockbuster Video. They can't interrupt me because
(07:39):
I'm the high speed rail of side quests.
Yeah, I was like, I've got an aura of unfinishable tasks, so
any To Do List within 10 feet ofme becomes impossible to
complete. So people forget what they're
doing. Half written texts stay in sent.
Yep, and dishes develop sentience and run off.
This totally does not sound likeyou man.
(07:59):
You sound like a villain. It is.
It's your, oh, it's your alter ego it.
Created a villain Brandon, and my kryptonite is the one who
asks too many questions. So my power breaks when someone
sober starts hitting me with questions like wait what are you
actually trying to say bro? What does this have to do with
the podcast? Can we just focus for a SEC?
It paralyzes my rhythm. I lose my train of thought and I
(08:23):
suddenly crave water. My powers fizzle.
My signature weapon is the dab to gone, a glowing mystical,
mystical rig that hit so hard itreveals the truth.
People try to hide from me and them.
My catch phrase, I'm not here tofight.
I'm here to forget what we were.I'm not here to fight.
(08:44):
I'm here to forget what we're fighting about.
And I'll have the like image that it'll have created of
supervillain brand. Dude that's so funny, do you
have like a real name? The names that it gave me up at
the top were the Bong, Father ofTime, Dank, Phantom, or the
Chronicler. Mine added like a real name.
Apparently my new name is Todd Waffles, right?
(09:07):
My status is confused but powerful.
My hero type walking secondhand embarrassment powered by
interdimensional enlightenment. Interdimensional.
Yeah, because I was smoking thatElysian nine.
Yeah, but I put it into my chamomile tea one time and I
thought it was weed sugar from Etsy.
And then Todd took a sip and experienced 14 stimulus
(09:32):
simultaneously. Identity crisis.
Fuck that one suck his soul lefthis body peaked at 12.
Alternate timelines when he diedin embarrassing ways and chose
the most survivable one. When he woke, he was no longer
just awkward, he was awkward with purpose.
(09:53):
Awkward with purpose. Now at least he empowered
abilities paradox or it's one ofthe side effects.
They can't tell if he's a geniusor just extremely divorced.
Chrono cringe loop. My my name is Captain Cringe.
Captain. Cringe.
Yeah chrono cringe loop. He can rewind reality by 8
(10:14):
seconds, but only to relive something even more awkward.
Oh my God. It's how he builds immunity to
embarrassment. His superpower is shame,
resilience, multiverse mumble. When high on Alicia 9, he speaks
in broken prophecies. Broken prophecies.
And unfinished tweets from othertimelines.
(10:39):
Villains become so distracted trying to interpret him they
forget what their evil Plaid was.
Stoner sage mode. Every time he hit he hits a
micro dose of E9HE gains access to a brief window of the
infinite wisdom just long enoughto deliver one mind blowing
truth. Like maybe the villain is just
(11:00):
your coping mechanism in different costume.
The fuck is crazy dude? That's hilarious.
Now to take that one of the things I when you were a kid,
yeah. Did you did you ever pretend to
be some? Well, I don't know.
You didn't get to watch many movies growing up.
Did you get to watch? Star Wars.
We did watch all the Star Wars ones.
(11:21):
I was obsessed with Star Wars. When I was really little like.
Back before the times got too bad, no.
I was trying to think of like when we started really watching
a lot of movies, I feel like, and it probably wasn't until I
was 1516. Oh my gosh.
Like we watch some. You sound like those movies
where that person is like kept in like a storage container
that's buried underground and they're like only light on.
(11:45):
On Sunday, and I would, I playedbasketball like every day for a
year. Alec and I played basketball
when we lived up on the East Side.
Even in the winter, we'd go out shovel snow, even if it was
raining, we'd be playing every single day.
And it was like, Oh, yeah. No, I like me too.
We just didn't read much which or we didn't watch a lot.
(12:07):
Well, I mean, and you weren't allowed to watch anything.
Yeah. And so then it wasn't until we
moved over here, they started buying like a bunch of edited
movies. They bought like a projector for
the basement and just started getting tons of movies.
So Christmas would come around and they'd get like 100 movies
or something, you know? And there'd just be a shit ton
so. It's so funny, dude.
It's like, it's like you were back in time or something.
(12:28):
I know. It's just like back when the
motion pictures came to be, likeit's like, oh man, that's like
me. It was completely different.
Yeah, well, it was like your. Very first movies.
I mean, like, did you start witha lot of superhero stuff or when
did you get into that? Oh, not way later like first
movies I saw. I saw ET in the theaters and my
(12:51):
dad took me to go see ET. Harbor at the drive in Down in
South Provo. Yeah, I remember that place.
I went there. I saw Ninja Turtles the the
first Ninja Turtle movie that came out there.
It was awesome. Everybody had to get underneath
this like blanket in the bed of the truck so the guy would like
pay for himself and then get like 14 people in there.
(13:11):
You pack everybody into them. Like people would pack him into
the back of their cars and shit.It's funny, but it was a good
time, man. But I don't know, man.
Like when I, I didn't get into superheroes until much later,
way months later. And it honestly, it wasn't until
like my wife and I went to this,our bank at the time, like new
Marvel movies would come out OK.And they're like, they would
(13:33):
send free tickets to members of our bank.
I know, right? And we went and saw Civil War
and all they'd asked in there, they're like, you know, what
side are you guys on? You know, are you a team Cap?
Are you Team Iron Man? Because that's the one where
they fought against each other and and my wife goes, oh, that's
easy. We're Team Iron Man.
(13:54):
I'm like, I don't know what you're talking about.
I'm Captain America. Like it was just a joke.
And that's what got you, CaptainAmerica.
Oh, no, no, no, that that was way later.
That was like a couple years later.
But, you know, I just like, I was like, yeah, I'm Captain
America. And then it was just a funny
rival between us. We just thought it was funny at
the time and and it was, but it was just kind of like, oh, then
(14:15):
I started getting into it. And then I started reading comic
books with my son. I was really into Batman, really
into Batman. What's your favorite Batman?
Comic or book or yes. Oh, the comics.
It's the, what is it called, theCourt of Owls.
It's a whole series of books andthere's like a weird part where
they're like some murder mysteryand it has nothing to do with
(14:35):
Batman. Kind of has something to do with
them, but not really. So it's like Scooby-doo comes in
all of a sudden, you're like. It is.
It's very weird, like everybody.Has the Mr. Wagon here?
Cabin and there's all these superheroes they're trying to
figure out the death of another superhero and I'm like
interesting. What's this have to do with it?
But I mean, it does make sense later on, but it's it's like a
weird detour, but it's about these like there are these other
(14:57):
is a like a whole, like, I don'tknow, committee.
It's a it's a the court of theselike almost really dark
individuals throughout time or something like that.
I it's been a long time as I read it, but basically these
guys could kick the shit out of Batman and.
They. Were faster and all this stuff,
(15:18):
but all this stuff happens throughout it.
And then there's yeah. And then I think Robin dies in
one of them. Batman at the beginning of the
first Dark Knight movie, not that's not the same people, but
kind of that concept of like whoever Raz al Ghul or whoever
he went and trained with and the.
Oh yeah. But I mean the Raz al Ghul, I
mean, they when they get into that one, he has like the
(15:40):
Lazarus Pit. That's why he can stay so young.
But in the movies they made him like, into like, like a real man
kind of, which was cool. But then like, you know, the
ending, I'm like, yeah, OK, that's kind of cool.
I thought the second one was awesome.
I loved the second one. It was super.
Dark. Such an amazing.
Oh yeah, and Batman was awesome and had the bat bike.
(16:01):
Oh yeah, that. Was that was dope.
I was still one of like my favorite movies for so long.
So, but the thing I like that one, but and a lot of people
don't agree with me on this one.That's totally fine, but I love
the one with that Ben Affleck. And the reason why is because he
fits The Dark Knight, which where in the comic books he just
(16:22):
not as like, you know, a good Boy Scout type of thing.
He really fucks people up. And even another Lego Batman
doesn't kill. Well, yeah, and several
different and universes he does because he's just like Robins
killed by the Joker, you know, and that that's a cool one.
Like if you ever want to watch aan animated one, they're they
(16:44):
would have been the best movies like The Dark Knight, all the
stuff they're cool. These ones are way better.
But a lot of the movies were based off of The Dark Knight
Returns. And there's a two-part series
where Bruce Wayne's like in his 60s and he's retired and doesn't
do anything for the Batman anymore.
He left it all behind him. And then this huge uprising of
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these, they call them mutants. These just like weird people
that file their teeth sharpen. They're like these gangs that go
around killing people, but they use it like biting.
Do you? Imagine the nerves in your.
Teeth. Oh yeah.
Do people do that now? They will sharpen them, yeah.
They'll have people that will try to make fangs.
They'll have prosthetics implanted.
(17:28):
That's nuts. And not like a cap, like they'll
remove the tooth and inhabit. Yeah, but that would be.
Weird. So like such a weird.
It would be annoying like it thenovelty would wear off pretty
quickly I think, so keep biting your lip.
Yeah, so if you were to talk to Chad, what do you think they
would say your nemesis looks like?
What is your like? What is your superhero nemesis?
(17:51):
I. Don't know what would yours be?
Captain Straight Edge or the Tolerance Terminator or.
Tolerance Terminator. Chad.
It literally says Chad. Yeah.
And it was like once at college,what the fuck's an RA who says
who actually enjoyed writing people up?
So for contacts. Oh yeah, he's like a dorm
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supervisor. Oh OK, I don't know, I didn't
stay in the door. Remember, Captain Straightedge
was exposed to a potent strain of 0 Chill OG during a failed
government experiment to neutralize the vibe.
Instead of mellowing out, his brain broke the other way,
becoming hypersensitive to anything fun.
Now he dedicates his life to shutting down sashes, exposing
(18:36):
giggles, and deconstructing snapfilled philosophical debates
with phrases like you know that's not actually how space
works, right? Do you really need another bowl?
And it's 8:00 PM, Shouldn't we be more productive?
So he's got powers like the Buzzkill Beam.
With a snap of his fingers and ajudge mental glance, he can dry
(18:58):
out even the dankest environmentjoints can.
Oh yeah, joints, canoe bongs, clog, vape pens just
mysteriously die, and he's got aspreadsheet manifestation so we
can summon Excel spreadsheets mid sesh to remind you of
deadlines, budgets, and that onething that you forgot about to
(19:19):
do 3 weeks ago. That's hilarious.
He's got a sobriety field so within 6 feet of him no one can
get high. Your lighter won't spark,
edibles become placebo, and yourdab rig leaks for no reason so
he's got an algorithmic smite. So he controls your podcast
(19:40):
algorithm when he's mad. Your reels get shadow banned
when he's pleased. Your worst clip gets 100,000
views for all the wrong reasons.But his weakness?
His eye contact with a golden retriever so he sees a dog being
blissfully dumb. He short circuits emotionally.
Childhood memories flood back and he grips on control.
(20:03):
His grip on control falters so accidentally inhaling second
hand terps if caught in your terpio aura for too long.
He starts feeling things and this really terrifies him.
The Chad, you know empathy. When he accidentally understands
your point of view, he glitches and starts suggesting maybe we
don't need to monetize everything.
(20:23):
That's funny, yeah. So did you, did you ever get
into superhero type? You know, you and Emily did the
whole Marvel thing just to do itright?
Just. I I never got into superheroes
like we watched The Dark Knight.I remember that one.
And then I think I've seen one Superman movie.
You know, but the, the, the thing was is like superheroes
(20:46):
came out for a while and it was fun.
It was fun. But I mean, it's, it's popcorn,
that's all. It's just for entertainment.
I'm not, I don't need to be, butif they're.
Not really good entertaining then.
It's like that's the problem. Is, and that usually comes down
to the director, The director, because I mean, the scripts are
meh. It's the director giving
direction to the actor saying this is what I want you to, to
(21:07):
be like, to feel like, and, and this is what I want you to show
us. And they're like, Oh yeah, I can
do that. I mean, it's like, you know, if
I want to talk about superheroeson there, like in like in film
for me is Quentin Tarantino because of all his films are
just. Does he have a lot of superhero?
Movies. None.
OK, I just think he's awesome. He does kill Bill, right?
(21:28):
Yeah, he did. He did a lot of those.
He did Pulp Fiction, Reservoir. I mean, I can go through all of
them. But The thing is like, you know,
I, I missed that. Wish that was like something
like that for superhero because for me my favorite superhero is
the Punisher because he's not. He's not a movie.
Or is it just? A.
He's a character. Netflix series, right?
Oh, it's a it's a old character.They've had multiple movies
(21:51):
about him. Oh, OK, lots of but the show was
like the all of them were garbage.
All the movies were garbage. They did a video game on
PlayStation two. It was horrific.
You could do these like horriblekillings.
Like it was crazy dude. But it was like, you know, the
Punisher is like he's a a hardcore dude, but he's a
(22:12):
revenge guy and he is driven by that.
They even did a whole thing in the Marvel Universe where the
Punisher kills the entire X-Men.He kills them all.
He knows how to do it. Oh, damn.
And it's like it's cool because it's like it this make believe
area, but it was by far like oneof my favorite.
I did watch the X-Men ones I liked.
(22:32):
I like the X-Men series. I liked Logan a lot.
That one was really good. I love.
Deadpool. Deadpool's fucking funny.
Deadpool's good. It's like, it's like a really
sweet dessert. I can't.
I can't watch it all the time. I could, but every once in a
while, like I'll go back and I watch it.
I'm like, that was still good. I know.
I I saw the last one and I was like, yeah.
Is there a third one? Is that what it was?
(22:54):
Oh yeah, OK, Deadpool and Wolverine.
Oh yeah, yeah, that one. I saw that one once.
Yeah, I saw it once. I don't have a desire to watch
it again it. I'm a huge Captain America fan,
so I watched them. I've watched them multiple
times. I mean, I love them.
I don't think like, I think it was good.
I don't remember it well enough to go like, Oh yeah, I loved it
and I wanted to go watch it again.
(23:14):
The 1st Deadpool I watched many times.
Because it's funny. It was hilarious.
Yeah, Now I, I look at that, Tim, it's just like, you know,
superheroes were awesome. I, I think that'd be cool.
Like, my kid has his own little superheroes and he loves WWE and
he picks guys as quickly as he would pick flavors of candy.
(23:36):
He didn't care. He's like, they're all cool.
Yeah, this guy's the winner now.And this guy's the winner now.
And it's cool because he's just into like their world.
Cause did you know that they're upset with each other because of
this dad? And I'm like.
It happens. Did not.
It happens. Dude, that's why I don't
wrestle. And he goes, oh, OK, yeah,
(23:57):
that's. Why I like to have?
It's so cool dude, 'cause it's, I remember growing up as a kid,
like fantasy was huge for me andmy, and my parents weren't
around. I mean, like I said, during that
time we raised ourselves during the 80s.
So not necessarily raised ourselves, but our parents were.
I don't know, I feel like they really instilled into us to be
(24:18):
able to survive on our own at that time.
I mean, you take all my siblingsnow all of us looks at my
sister, my youngest sister, all of us can cook really well.
All of us know how to be able totake care of things.
We know how to fix things. We know how to.
I mean, we just, you know, my sister was babysitting at 10.
That's like Phoenix, my youngest, a year older.
(24:39):
I wouldn't trust him to watch myeggs on the on the stove.
I think I was 11. I watched someone's kids around
my like, the corner for me, but that was because I don't know.
Yeah, I think it depends on the kid.
It totally does. But the one thing that I really
enjoy about my childhood is it was full of imagination and play
and fun. And I'm glad that I didn't have
(25:01):
superheroes because the superheroes during when I was
growing up was sports greats. I grew up during Bo Jackson and,
you know, David Robinson and Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen,
like this way before Shaq. Like I had Shaq's like rookie
card. I I was big into basketball back
(25:22):
when, like, Jordan was playing, Pippen was playing John
Stockton, Karl Malone. Yeah, Karl Malone, Larry Bird.
Like why can't? I think of the Dennis Rodman.
My God, dude. The Rodman died, he married
himself. Like all this stuff?
He was crazy. You know, I, I appreciated
(25:45):
basketball guys during that timeand sports guys.
The reason why? Because they were larger than
life and they were outspoken. Like Michael Jordan had a fuck
ton of money but he wasn't showing up with all sorts of
bling and shit and come look at my house.
He never seemed to like, yeah. No dude I mean cuz he had his
own. Demon.
(26:05):
There was an MTV Cribs for him. But he just did.
That guy is richer than all those guys.
I I kind of stopped following like after he retired and that I
was kind of like too. I was like, you know, I think
I'm good. I still played basketball all
the time. I loved it but I stopped
watching. Dude, only time I've enjoyed
watching is that whenever I get invited to like a box seat game.
(26:27):
Oh yeah. That's great.
It's fun because the energy is. There, it's the experience,
Yeah, you know. But then it's just crazy, dude,
how big they are now. Like, it's just like giants
running around on this tiny square.
That's what it looks like when you're above.
You're like, holy. Shit, it's nuts.
But it's this, this idea that like, and, and that's
superheroes, because I remember a long time ago, somebody had
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asked me and they're like, Hey, who's your superhero?
And I said my dad, but I didn't understand that.
I think I was something I was supposed to say.
I, I don't have that because I'm, I'm, I'm in, I just never
have had that. I've never had somebody that I
just I want to emulate ever. Because for me, it wasn't like I
want to be like them at all, other than those that I met in
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martial arts, like in real time or in business, like later on.
Like I could give a shit if I met, like if I met this guy who
was like an awesome sales guy here, dude.
I was like, can I take you out to lunch?
I want to talk to you, dude. It's so cool talking to you.
If I was sitting in front of like Brad Pitt or Tom Cruise,
will be like, hey, yeah, cool that thing you did anyways, I
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enjoyed your movie. Appreciate it.
Like, I don't care. I'm like, oh, what's it like
when you take a shit? Because when I take a shit, it
stinks. It must be different for you.
And he's like, Nope, same deal. Like it's not any different.
But I, I would see these, these men when I was growing up who
did martial arts and stuff like that, and we're good people.
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Police officers for me growing up, I had a lot of really good
experience with police officers and so I respected them a lot.
Wanted to be 1 didn't work out and I'm glad it didn't.
But at the same time, like I really, and I still do, I
respect them quite a bit. If they're a Dick, they're a
person. That guy clearly has issues.
But I, I don't know, man, I never, I never, I said my dad.
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But I'm like, yeah, my dad did alot.
And I love my dad. I love my dad.
I respect my dad. Like I always looked up to my
dad in certain aspects, but there was other things that I
never wanted to be like him, right, You know, But job wise,
for some reason, I always I wanted to be like him when he
was a mailman. I wanted to be a mailman.
Like when he worked at RC Willey, I wanted to work at RC
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Willey and then when he. It's like a little kid pushing
the the lawn mower, the toy lawnmower behind it.
He. Was like, oh, I want to be like
dad, but I don't want to like beat my kids or like I, I don't
want to do these other things. I want to like, I want to take
the goods things that I learned and I want to take that part and
I want to leave behind the things.
And I'm like, you know, that's not necessary.
I don't need that. Like that we learned from his
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dad and that way like there's these things that are kind of
passed down in ways that I'm like, I don't, it's not
necessary. It's not needed.
And I, I don't need to carry that forward for my kids and
their kids or, you know. You break that cycle yeah right.
It's A and that's what we're trying to do I think that's our
superpower now is seeing it and and really working hard to not
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like I I think it's the best quote I've ever heard about
raising kids from Andrew Buzzamante.
He's ex CIA guy, trains people how to be like a CIA person or
see the world as a CIA person. Interesting.
Got to make money somehow. And he talked about he's like,
look, as a parent, my role is tomake sure that my kids are not
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as fucked up as I am. And that's a pretty good
standard because you know, they're not going to get out
unscathed. They're going to have things
that come out. We're all here out of your
control. Yeah.
Environment themselves, whatever.
Well, and even then, like how many times are we human and we
have emotions and we get frustrated or we do something
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and you know, yes, maybe it might not have been the best
response. Like, I know I've not been the
best parent through my whole life and it's something I
continuously try and work on. But I know there's moments that
I'm like, well, yeah, I fucked up.
Yeah, I fucked up. But hoping that there's less of
those than my parents had and hopefully down the road, like
your kid, my kids have less fuckups than than I did.
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Yeah. And you know, and.
I think the one thing that I've learned from from my parents
that the power that I didn't know was there is that I am more
patient now and instead of beinglater because my dad more than
my mom now has patience, he is more.
Patient has more patience than your mom or he's now.
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Now he's around. My mom is never, I mean, she had
her temper and stuff like that, but she was pretty patient with
us. You know, my siblings may
disagree because they had different interactions and you
know what? My parents raised them as
different people. And you know what, like a lot of
people do they they have favourites.
I don't know why, but they do and I I don't.
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I don't either. You know, there's some of my
kids that annoy the fuck out of me that I just don't want to be
around. It doesn't mean I love them any
less or love them more than my other ones.
But, you know, that's kind of how we were treated as kids.
But it was, it was difficult. You've been in a tumultuous
marriage. You're both working, you're
meeting other people, and you all have to raise these kids.
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And you really don't like being in the same space with each
other. You tolerate it because that's
what you're supposed to do. Yeah, that's hard.
Because you have all these all, you have all these kids, you
have 4 kids, most of them are teenagers.
How do you feel obligated? Because you're like, well, I
have to be here and I got to take care.
And there's, you know how to, and I think it's admirable for
those who stay in that one and do it in a way where like my
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parents did, where I know they didn't like each other as much,
but they tried as hard as they could.
And my mom just hit her breakingpoint.
She's like, yeah, despite of anything that she did, despite
anything he did, it didn't matter.
She hit a breaking point. She's like, I'm out of here.
And that was the best thing for my family.
It's, I mean, it's crazy becauseit's, it can be incredibly hard
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to see. But like my parents, they were
basically roommates and businesspartners, great business
partners, but roommates for a couple years before they got
divorced. And all of us kids knew it and
all of us kids were like, you should get divorced.
Like you're not happy. Neither of you are happy.
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And that's where I see like a lot of I had a friend and.
We're all adults. Well, but even then, like it's
the, it's I had a good friend that I worked with at the
hospital for years and I used toteach him and his sons martial
arts every weekend. Like they came for years and we
were trained. And his last kid leaves the
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house and he calls me and I, I trained his kids since they were
young and now they're all adults.
They're all married. They have kids now.
And when the last one had left, he gave me a call.
He says, hey, can I come talk toyou for a bit?
I said sure dude, it'd be great to see you.
We start talking and he's like what the fuck am I supposed to
do now? Like the last kid left and he's
like, I don't know my wife. I don't know who she is.
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And that's the thing that I I see with those who get into a
relationship really young and get married and they're whole,
they just start spitting out kids right away, which I'm all
for people having kids. I think you should have a good,
you should have kids. But as it started going through,
man, like they spend 20 years, 30 years raising children,
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depending on how fast they spellspilled out and then they leave
and now what? We were just maintaining.
Yeah, well, because most of them, and it sucks, but when we
get married super young, we start popping out babies right
away. Most of us are still so young
that we don't really know who weare yet.
We haven't figured any of that out.
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We don't really know a lot aboutour partner because, well, we're
super young. They're super young.
We haven't figured each other out.
We haven't figured out, like none of that's figured out.
And then you start introducing of the responsibilities of
children and more children and then navigating that and raising
their emotions and like, there'sso much you don't have the time.
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No, but you you you can, but at the same time like most.
People don't take the time because it's and so you get a
lot who you said, you know, all the kids are gone.
They're like, who is this personin my house?
Who, who am I sitting with? I don't know anything about this
person. I don't even know if I like this
person. Yeah, he, he, he's like, I don't
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know what to do. He's like, I don't even know
exactly what you just said. That's exactly what he said to
me. And I said, you know, you should
ask her out on a date. And he goes, what?
And I'm like. Get to know who it is.
Dude, just ask her on a date, say hey, do you like to go out
some time? Like like I want to get to know.
And, and he was really hesitant and I kept pushing him and he
did it. And he's like, it was kind of
awkward. And I'm like, yeah, do it again.
Because it's different than whatyou're used to.
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Now they own some like alpaca farm out and Payson or something
like that. And it's cool because they're
still together. But it's this it's it's the idea
that your your role in the marriage is just to provide and
take care of the kids, like for both of you.
And I don't see, I've, I've had a very good marriage.
My wife and I communicate a lot.It has it always been a way?
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No, it was a growth in progress.But we don't give up on each
other and we just keep going andlearning.
And now, I mean, after this recording coming out like my
wife and I, No, Yeah, no. Within like a week my wife and I
are I are going to be celebrating her 20th year
anniversary. Been together for 22 and 23
years, married for 20 and it wasexactly that.
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I was more experienced in the world.
I traveled all over the world, done crazy things.
She was sheltered. You've had experienced a lot
right by then. And it was good because she it
was so foreign to her, everything that I did or said.
Oh yeah, yeah, she's. Like.
Whoa, It's like you were like James and when I not in every
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aspect, but like from the comingfrom the Mormon side of like, oh
shit, this guy's drank. He's done all this stuff like
oh, he. And then so when James came into
the family and he's having theseconversations and it's like, oh
shit. I imagine not the same, but like
similar where it's kind of this shock of like, holy shit, this
is so different than anything that I'm used to.
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Yeah, and it's but the one thingI would say like, you know, it
wasn't. I don't, I don't know about your
parents, but your siblings were really, really welcoming to
James. And James isn't the easiest
person at that time. I hope to be like, yeah, they
were. I.
Remember, I know that my sister was very wary to introduce.
She introduced me first because she was like, oh, you're the
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most like accepting and you won't care.
And he was going through divorceand and I was like, holy shit,
that's kind of a shock that my young sister, like my little
sister is dating a divorcing guyand from the type of person who
she was always like getting on me for swearing or anything I
did. Oh yeah, now she's dating in an
ex. Marine and I was like what the
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fuck like what? It just it didn't compute in my
mind. I'm like, doesn't matter, like.
And so I just, I love him. Like I said, he's a big
Labrador. He's a good guy, he's a good
guy. I mean, you know, but he was
younger and and I remember when I was younger, but the thing
when I came into that family, I was not welcomed at all.
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Like her sister was nice to me. Other sister was decent with.
Me. That's because her dad is.
No, no, no, no. It was just the cult.
Like her mom didn't like me. They all just kind of gave up,
which is funny because now I'm the one that they'll talk to all
the time. And it just goes to show that,
you know, for them it was a goodthing for them because they were
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able to let go of a lot of stigmas and a lot of prejudice
that they had towards people whowere not a part of their
culture. And I never really got along
with my brother-in-law James, other than we were just, we talk
like I can't have deep conversations.
I could talk about video games or something and that's it.
Like father, like son. Yeah, yeah.
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You know, it's well, I could have discussions with my
father-in-law when when we were talking, but.
Good ones. Yeah, I because I control the
conversation. I'm like, I don't want to talk
about what do you want to talk about?
And I would get him to be able to.
Along with those. Oh yeah.
OK, well, because I was able to I I knew what to say to him.
I. Chose not to have many
interactions because none of theinteractions were positive, so I
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just. No.
And you grew up with them? You mitigated those a lot.
More than I did. I didn't know you knew from when
you were a child. Yeah.
You know, I didn't know him verywell.
But I I conned him at a time where he was trying to keep
everybody fooled to what he is. And I saw through that bullshit
a long time ago. My wife said we're not talking
to it anymore and shit, it's here.
And I haven't talked motherfucker since that dude,
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that guy go fuck himself, right?But.
I hope you're listening. Yeah, fuck, even if he is, I
hope you're toking up, motherfucker.
But that would be dope. Yeah, I know, right?
I hope you token up and realize some of the shit you did.
Now he's a narcissist, he won't fucking know, but it's, it's
because of that dude, like I, I see this awesome superpower that
my wife and I have been able to do and the stability of being
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able. I, I've seen that in my kids.
I'm not saying my kids are better than anybody else's, but
I'm just saying like I understand that that kind of
relationship is very strong for them and to be supportive of my
kids, regardless of whatever choices that they make.
Just saying, I love you, I accept you, I care about you and
I want you to know that I will protect you.
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And, and that means against the outside world, regardless if, if
they are friend or foe. And, and that's the thing that
I, I'm trying to like, instill into my kids.
I'm like, you know, just treat people with kindness and
respect, no matter who they are.And it's great for my kids,
'cause, you know, and my daughter especially, she, the
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only thing she says, she goes, yeah, it smells like cannabis
out here. And that's all she said.
But the best part is she said cannabis, right?
I don't say weed or anything like that.
It's it's cannabis. My kids use the the proper
nomenclature. And then on top of that, they
don't see it as bad. Not even my like Steph used to.
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She's like, I don't think you should smoke around Phoenix.
I'm like, you're right, second hand smoke is bad.
And she goes, no, I don't want him to see you.
And I'm joking with her. And I'm like, of course, who
cares? Who cares?
He needs to know this is his dad.
Yeah, this is me. Well, and if it's a medicine who
helps you, that helps you, you're not going oh crap, I got
diabetes. Don't don't look.
Folk don't don't look. I'm take like, well, that helps
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you with something, right? OK, well, I take stuff that
helps me with things too. So wouldn't that be the same
because that helps dad with something Like couldn't it just
be education? It could.
And that's the thing that, you know, I, I, I feel like by doing
that, I'm helping my kids to notbe more well-rounded, but to be
more aware like the world. Here away from it and go, you
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don't have to be afraid of everything, but you should be
aware and let me make you aware of this so you can be educated
when you approach something instead of going, oh shoot, I
need to either be afraid of thator then if they are supposed to
be afraid of it and then they try it and it's like that was
amazing. Well then what?
You know, it's so it's better tojust openly educate.
Well, and they know that, you know, anybody that I've ever
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brought by that consumes cannabis with me, they're all
nice people, They're all very kind, they're all very loving
people. And it's because I choose to
associate with those types of people.
And, and so I'm, I'm helping them to understand these are
healthy relationships that you want.
And I openly, you know, if I do something stupid in front of the
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kids and my wife because I'm getting emotional about
something, I don't want to say I'm sorry I did that.
And I'm sorry, you know, and andmy kids like the biggest thing
I'm like, we don't, I had learned from this old Vietnam
veteran, cool guy, hardcore in the church, but just a cool guy.
And he was the one that asked methe first time he said who after
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I'd had my son Max, like literally a week after I came
back to work and he goes who he has this really lovely.
Who is the most important personin your family in your marriage?
And I'm like thinking, I have tosay my kid, I guess my kid, I
need to take it goes, no, it's your wife because she will be
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there after they all leave. And make sure that you know that
she knows that you're hers and that she is yours.
That's it. Because if your kids come above
it, you will carry a divide. And I saw that with so many
marriages where the wife was only focused on the kids or the
dad was only focused on the kids, but they didn't focus on
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each other. And because of that, it broke
that bond because it's like, OK,great.
But it's, it's so cool. These are the Super.
These are the people that I've learned a lot.
From a lot of people get complacent, like you get in a
relationship, in a marriage and whatever and you get these
habits and your habits become well, we're not dating anymore.
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We're not going out on dates. We're not trying to get to know
this person as they're changing and growing and like, who are
you? What's going on in your life?
Like tell me you know, and really connecting on deeper
levels as we grow. It's there's a lot of like
complacency and just routine that happens that we miss that.
Will you would you go on a date with me?
We're married. Yeah, but you look like I'd like
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to take you out. Would you go on a date with me,
like asking your partner or thatother person, like really
dedicating that time, trying to make him feel special.
Like why do we stop dating the people we start dating when we,
you know, get into it, They're like, oh, hey, we're, we're
really connected now. Well, well, I don't have to work
to keep you because I got you now.
So you know. Yeah, it is weird, right?
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Because you're, you're looking at it from a lens of I, the
reason I didn't want to get married when I was younger,
because I, I didn't want to get married until I was 30.
And there's like, I don't want to do this because I just, I saw
my parents marriage. I saw a lot of I, I had friends
already at this age at 24 when Imet Steph.
We're divorced. We're divorced.
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And I'm like, fuck that. Yeah.
Like I don't mind going around hitting all these skanks.
Right. Well, it's hard.
Like even when I was 22 I had a buddy who was divorced.
Yeah, it's like, what? What?
The hell, like you're just married and then you know, I got
divorced handful of years later and stuff like it.
It happens, but. Well, and it's a product of of
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of it the, and here's just a theory I have, but it's a
generational impact of really surface level marriages for so
long because they all got married for some reason or
another, like they were in love or something you'd hope.
I don't think grandma and grandpa were.
I think it was more of like a. Time.
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It's the yeah, I'm this age, you're this age.
Let's get. You're here.
OK? Yeah.
Let's get married. Let's do this.
OK? Yeah.
Yeah, you come from this area, OK, you have good quality check.
The box. All right, let's go.
All right. Next thing on the box, pop out
babies. OK, All right, Get a college
educate, but got that. OK, Yeah.
And but then when you get to theend, it's kind of like grandpa
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where he loved his wife because.It was his.
Wife. It was his wife.
That's all he knew. But at the same time, I don't
think he was ever in love. No.
And that, to me, is a tragedy. Yeah, but he's never experienced
what being in love would have been.
Like and maintaining it. Dude, my wife and I've been
together for 23 years, 23 years,and I'm more attracted to her
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now than I was when we first gottogether.
And she's like, what are you talking about?
I've had five kids and twins and, you know, and I'm like, no,
I'm glad that you're not as skinny as when I hooked up with.
You because the first bit it's different, it's like this
infatuation, this connection, like it's it's new relationship
energy of this excitement of that.
But then as you connect with thehuman, it grows into a deeper
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type of love. It's a different attraction,
like, Oh yeah, as long as you connect with that person if you
are really trying to grow and and like understand them and
like not just want them to be a specific way.
True. You know, but understanding who
they really are and going like, you know, lots of us have trauma
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or shit we're dealing with and how many of it's like, OK, well,
maybe they haven't navigated that or, you know, but again, it
just depends on the relationshipand.
And, and that's the cool part, like if, if, if you're able to
start going through and actuallyhave some discussions.
This is what cannabis has done for our relationship is that
it's helped my wife and I be able to bond over certain things
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or relax. It's it's something we do, you
know, if we go to the movies or it's something we do before we
have sex or, or it's something that we do, you know, just
because like today's been hard and she'll ask me what, which
edible do I take to help me feelmore like this?
I'm like, Oh, well, tell me about your day.
And then I'm like, OK, now I just labeled the edibles what
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they are, sleep, chill, pain, right?
And energy, happiness like. And, and it does that for her.
And that's what's so great because now we can have these
deep conversations or just chill.
Like that's the great thing too.Like we are at a point in our
marriage where she could sit in one side of the bed and read her
book and I could sit over there playing with Chad or playing a
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video game and. And it doesn't matter.
I'm not avoiding. Intent that you're just.
You can be there together, but you don't have to be doing the
same thing. No, and we don't have to be
right by each other. We don't have to be smothering
each other, even though we're very affectionate.
It's just like, you know, I, I know I love you and that's great
and I'm I'm, I'm always here andI only want to be with you.
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And that's, that's what the great thing, man, that's where I
feel like that strength, that muscle that is built up over
time is that because we've been able to go through those
challenges and try to learn fromit, that our bond is stronger,
our love is stronger. But I always think about my
kids. I'm like, what example am I
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setting for them? If they have a relationship,
what can they base it off of? And what's really cool, bro, and
I'll leave it at this is my son who's 18 and he's making some
really adult decisions in his relationships with his friends
and with his girlfriend. And he said something to me that
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was just profound on these like,you know, sometimes I know that
I know she's the right one for me, but I don't know if I'm the
right one for her, but I love her.
I'm going to stay with her for right now.
And he he has his healthy boundaries, but he even knows
like he's because he's seen whatwe've gone through.
So he comes to us, he talks to us about it.
And dude, that was like a for a while I was like, this kids
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fucking done. Like, I don't know how he's
going to live. This is fucking stupid.
And then all of a sudden he shows me this and I'm like, oh,
maybe I didn't fuck up because it wasn't.
He's stupid. Is that I fucked up and that's
what passed from my parents. Yeah, that's what passed from
your parents. Oh, yeah.
And now you got, you've got somereally good kids.
I got good kids and I got, I gotI have a positive outlook for my
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kids in the future because we'vebeen good stoners, dude.
Yeah, we've been good stoners. Hey, so Spotify has this cool
thing now that we can have conversations in the comments
where it used to allow just one comment, you can respond more so
we can actually respond and havethat.
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So comment below, go to chat, type in, have it give you
whether you're a villain, a superhero, what's you're like
cannabis story. Drop into the comments below,
share it. We'd love to hear it and.
I'm Brandon. And I'm.
Jesse we're cannabis school having cannabis infused
conversations with everyday people, cannabis companies,
celebrities and your mom. Welcome to the Sash.
Today, kids on the Sash. We're going to have a bit of
fun. We're going to play make
believe. Yeah, and we're.
Going to use our friend chat to be able to do it.
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And this is some funny shit we were coming up with cause so
Brandon started going through all these ideas and he's like,
Oh yeah, what if we're what kindof superpowers would we have?
And I got real crazy into it. So I'm going to use this as the
catalyst. It's like mine has its own Oh.
Hold on, I'm going to it. We're going to use it.
It's all stems from this strain called Elysian 9.
(00:45):
All right, the status contained mostly.
Before we get into that, Oh yeah, we need to, we're going to
be, we're going to be trying these new rose delights.
Yeah, out in Los Angeles, we were able to stop in and pick up
these. These are fantastic.
Look at that packaging. It's like the Apple of edibles.
Oh, it's so smear. That dude, look at that.
And it's like 10 milligrams a piece in there.
(01:07):
Yeah, they're and they've got, I've got high energy.
That's the one, it says. That's what I popped 4 of right
now and I've got another one in my hand because they're only 10
milligrams. So they're pretty low dose,
well, depending on your dose. Now here's what's unique about
this the amount of flavors in this.
It even says it right here. I hate chewing into the mic and
(01:29):
a bunch of people said fuck, I already heard it.
All right. A fruit and vegetable green
juice blend infused with a single strain flour rosin with
goji Berry, coffee, coffee, cherry tea and lion's mane for
higher energy experience. It's got 1 milligram of CBD in
each of those ones. At least now they send it like
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we got, we got six different types there.
So we've got like their deeper sleep.
We've got some sour grape. We have like rhubarb and some
like there's, there's all sorts of flavors that they send.
Us maybe we have different, thisone has 10 milligrams THC and 1
milligram of CBG. I thought it was CBD on the that
package. I think it says CBD.
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It's. All new.
Yeah. I think on the plastic one right
there that it came in the sleeve.
I think it also says 1 milligramCBD does it?
Oh yeah. So I wonder if it has CBD and
CBD and just that's fantastic. It's pretty good.
I I think it tastes pretty good.Packaging is pretty bad ass.
Did they send? They give us a code.
I don't think so from them, but I'll message them before this
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airs and see if we can get a code for it.
Yeah, if you are in LA, Rose delights they.
Might be all over California, actually, but they are so
delicious. Tasty Like yeah.
It's fantastic. If you we know we got a lot of
listeners out there in Cali. Do you guys have other edible
strains or companies that you really like about it?
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Let us know. Oh this is awesome.
Yeah. You'll have to let me know what
you feel from that or where you get because 50 milligrams isn't
going to touch me really, but I do.
I really like the flavor. I I like the flavor.
And it's just a nice little likeaddition to whatever I do, yeah.
Oh, that's all it's going to do.Yeah.
And when it kicks in. But I like the flavor.
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It's fantastic. And I'm sure just the amount of
detail put into this, I'm sure it's going to be a great
experience. So.
So let's let's hear about your Elysium.
OK, so or this is funny shit dude, it created like the chat
credit is hilarious. OK, so the strain files called
Elysium 9, it's contained mostlyclassification genomic anomaly,
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interdimensional interdimensional psychoactive
warning. This is not a strain, this is a
threshold. All right, the origin of bloom
at lab 9 decades ago beneath theUtah salt flats, a private
sector biotech initiative known as Elysium enhance liminal yield
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synthetic interdimensional unified mind began work on a non
terrestrial cannabinoid found ina meteorite fragment that
crashed in 1973. The researchers cultivated it
with the genetic material of a rare pre extinct land races and
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quantum crystallized by celium. Jesus Christ.
The results was strain 9, the 9th of only surviving plant in
the experiment. It didn't behave like a plant,
it pulsed under spectral imagingin trichomes, hummed in
patterns, no light, no sound, something in between, something
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that responded through. This is the funniest shit ever
dude. It says the taste the.
Taste. Impossible to describe.
First puff tastes like a childhood memory you forgot
existed. Second taste is like your soul
wanted to say during its worst heartbreak.
High users don't get high, they faze.
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Each person who smokes Alicia 9 shifts into a parallel thread
where one truth they would bid avoiding becomes reality.
For some it's ecstasy, for others, oblivion.
Dude, that's hilarious. Some doctor let it out.
That's how he got it out there. And then I got it, and then I
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smoked it, and I don't know whathappened to me.
So you turn it. So Brandon spoke the same thing.
What did you turn into? So I didn't go with Elysium.
I just had to figure out like what was I was IA super villain
was IA superhero, What was Brandon?
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And it said that well, my name was the Chronicler or the Bong
father, Bong father of Time or dank Phantom.
And I was like, oh Bong father of time at work.
But it says once a kind hearted sesh legend known for calming
rooms and feeding friends, you were corrupted by a sentient nug
of galactic garlic that gave youtoo much clarity.
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Now you wander the sesh circuit,speaking in riddles, twisting
vibes and always 2 steps ahead because I've already smoked that
timeline so I can trap people invivid, hyper real high memories.
So they forget where they are and they're alive and they'll
relive those. So they relive that one time
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they said the wrong name on a date.
Or, you know, when they missed the pizza delivery while in the
bathroom. Or like when they first screened
out at their granddad's, You know?
So weaponizing nostalgia and second hand embarrassment just
kind of creating disruption. So I, I have this, what is a
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superpower called snack theft teleportation.
And I don't walk. I blink from bag of chips to
cookie jar to fridge. And every time someone opens
food while I'm high, oh while they're high, there's a 10%
chance that I appear behind themand say you're going to finish
that. The infinite tangent where once
I start talking, no one can escape the spiral.
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No, that's mine. I know I just gave it to me
because I'm a. Super.
I know, I get. That's your superpower.
A convo about lighters because becomes a breakdown of fire
evolution and toaster mechanics.Toaster mechanics?
What the fuck? Yeah, so I leave friends dazed,
wondering how I get from Jurassic Park to the economic
collapse of Blockbuster Video. They can't interrupt me because
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I'm the high speed rail of side quests.
Yeah, I was like, I've got an aura of unfinishable tasks, so
any To Do List within 10 feet ofme becomes impossible to
complete. So people forget what they're
doing. Half written texts stay in sent.
Yep, and dishes develop sentience and run off.
This totally does not sound likeyou man.
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You sound like a villain. It is.
It's your, oh, it's your alter ego it.
Created a villain Brandon, and my kryptonite is the one who
asks too many questions. So my power breaks when someone
sober starts hitting me with questions like wait what are you
actually trying to say bro? What does this have to do with
the podcast? Can we just focus for a SEC?
It paralyzes my rhythm. I lose my train of thought and I
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suddenly crave water. My powers fizzle.
My signature weapon is the dab to gone, a glowing mystical,
mystical rig that hit so hard itreveals the truth.
People try to hide from me and them.
My catch phrase, I'm not here tofight.
I'm here to forget what we were.I'm not here to fight.
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I'm here to forget what we're fighting about.
And I'll have the like image that it'll have created of
supervillain brand. Dude that's so funny, do you
have like a real name? The names that it gave me up at
the top were the Bong, Father ofTime, Dank, Phantom, or the
Chronicler. Mine added like a real name.
Apparently my new name is Todd Waffles, right?
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My status is confused but powerful.
My hero type walking secondhand embarrassment powered by
interdimensional enlightenment. Interdimensional.
Yeah, because I was smoking thatElysian nine.
Yeah, but I put it into my chamomile tea one time and I
thought it was weed sugar from Etsy.
And then Todd took a sip and experienced 14 stimulus
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simultaneously. Identity crisis.
Fuck that one suck his soul lefthis body peaked at 12.
Alternate timelines when he diedin embarrassing ways and chose
the most survivable one. When he woke, he was no longer
just awkward, he was awkward with purpose.
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Awkward with purpose. Now at least he empowered
abilities paradox or it's one ofthe side effects.
They can't tell if he's a geniusor just extremely divorced.
Chrono cringe loop. My my name is Captain Cringe.
Captain. Cringe.
Yeah chrono cringe loop. He can rewind reality by 8
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seconds, but only to relive something even more awkward.
Oh my God. It's how he builds immunity to
embarrassment. His superpower is shame,
resilience, multiverse mumble. When high on Alicia 9, he speaks
in broken prophecies. Broken prophecies.
And unfinished tweets from othertimelines.
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Villains become so distracted trying to interpret him they
forget what their evil Plaid was.
Stoner sage mode. Every time he hit he hits a
micro dose of E9HE gains access to a brief window of the
infinite wisdom just long enoughto deliver one mind blowing
truth. Like maybe the villain is just
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your coping mechanism in different costume.
The fuck is crazy dude? That's hilarious.
Now to take that one of the things I when you were a kid,
yeah. Did you did you ever pretend to
be some? Well, I don't know.
You didn't get to watch many movies growing up.
Did you get to watch? Star Wars.
We did watch all the Star Wars ones.
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I was obsessed with Star Wars. When I was really little like.
Back before the times got too bad, no.
I was trying to think of like when we started really watching
a lot of movies, I feel like, and it probably wasn't until I
was 1516. Oh my gosh.
Like we watch some. You sound like those movies
where that person is like kept in like a storage container
that's buried underground and they're like only light on.
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On Sunday, and I would, I playedbasketball like every day for a
year. Alec and I played basketball
when we lived up on the East Side.
Even in the winter, we'd go out shovel snow, even if it was
raining, we'd be playing every single day.
And it was like, Oh, yeah. No, I like me too.
We just didn't read much which or we didn't watch a lot.
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Well, I mean, and you weren't allowed to watch anything.
Yeah. And so then it wasn't until we
moved over here, they started buying like a bunch of edited
movies. They bought like a projector for
the basement and just started getting tons of movies.
So Christmas would come around and they'd get like 100 movies
or something, you know? And there'd just be a shit ton
so. It's so funny, dude.
It's like, it's like you were back in time or something.
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I know. It's just like back when the
motion pictures came to be, likeit's like, oh man, that's like
me. It was completely different.
Yeah, well, it was like your. Very first movies.
I mean, like, did you start witha lot of superhero stuff or when
did you get into that? Oh, not way later like first
movies I saw. I saw ET in the theaters and my
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dad took me to go see ET. Harbor at the drive in Down in
South Provo. Yeah, I remember that place.
I went there. I saw Ninja Turtles the the
first Ninja Turtle movie that came out there.
It was awesome. Everybody had to get underneath
this like blanket in the bed of the truck so the guy would like
pay for himself and then get like 14 people in there.
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You pack everybody into them. Like people would pack him into
the back of their cars and shit.It's funny, but it was a good
time, man. But I don't know, man.
Like when I, I didn't get into superheroes until much later,
way months later. And it honestly, it wasn't until
like my wife and I went to this,our bank at the time, like new
Marvel movies would come out OK.And they're like, they would
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send free tickets to members of our bank.
I know, right? And we went and saw Civil War
and all they'd asked in there, they're like, you know, what
side are you guys on? You know, are you a team Cap?
Are you Team Iron Man? Because that's the one where
they fought against each other and and my wife goes, oh, that's
easy. We're Team Iron Man.
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I'm like, I don't know what you're talking about.
I'm Captain America. Like it was just a joke.
And that's what got you, CaptainAmerica.
Oh, no, no, no, that that was way later.
That was like a couple years later.
But, you know, I just like, I was like, yeah, I'm Captain
America. And then it was just a funny
rival between us. We just thought it was funny at
the time and and it was, but it was just kind of like, oh, then
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I started getting into it. And then I started reading comic
books with my son. I was really into Batman, really
into Batman. What's your favorite Batman?
Comic or book or yes. Oh, the comics.
It's the, what is it called, theCourt of Owls.
It's a whole series of books andthere's like a weird part where
they're like some murder mysteryand it has nothing to do with
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Batman. Kind of has something to do with
them, but not really. So it's like Scooby-doo comes in
all of a sudden, you're like. It is.
It's very weird, like everybody.Has the Mr. Wagon here?
Cabin and there's all these superheroes they're trying to
figure out the death of another superhero and I'm like
interesting. What's this have to do with it?
But I mean, it does make sense later on, but it's it's like a
weird detour, but it's about these like there are these other
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is a like a whole, like, I don'tknow, committee.
It's a it's a the court of theselike almost really dark
individuals throughout time or something like that.
I it's been a long time as I read it, but basically these
guys could kick the shit out of Batman and.
They. Were faster and all this stuff,
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but all this stuff happens throughout it.
And then there's yeah. And then I think Robin dies in
one of them. Batman at the beginning of the
first Dark Knight movie, not that's not the same people, but
kind of that concept of like whoever Raz al Ghul or whoever
he went and trained with and the.
Oh yeah. But I mean the Raz al Ghul, I
mean, they when they get into that one, he has like the
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Lazarus Pit. That's why he can stay so young.
But in the movies they made him like, into like, like a real man
kind of, which was cool. But then like, you know, the
ending, I'm like, yeah, OK, that's kind of cool.
I thought the second one was awesome.
I loved the second one. It was super.
Dark. Such an amazing.
Oh yeah, and Batman was awesome and had the bat bike.
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Oh yeah, that. Was that was dope.
I was still one of like my favorite movies for so long.
So, but the thing I like that one, but and a lot of people
don't agree with me on this one.That's totally fine, but I love
the one with that Ben Affleck. And the reason why is because he
fits The Dark Knight, which where in the comic books he just
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not as like, you know, a good Boy Scout type of thing.
He really fucks people up. And even another Lego Batman
doesn't kill. Well, yeah, and several
different and universes he does because he's just like Robins
killed by the Joker, you know, and that that's a cool one.
Like if you ever want to watch aan animated one, they're they
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would have been the best movies like The Dark Knight, all the
stuff they're cool. These ones are way better.
But a lot of the movies were based off of The Dark Knight
Returns. And there's a two-part series
where Bruce Wayne's like in his 60s and he's retired and doesn't
do anything for the Batman anymore.
He left it all behind him. And then this huge uprising of
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these, they call them mutants. These just like weird people
that file their teeth sharpen. They're like these gangs that go
around killing people, but they use it like biting.
Do you? Imagine the nerves in your.
Teeth. Oh yeah.
Do people do that now? They will sharpen them, yeah.
They'll have people that will try to make fangs.
They'll have prosthetics implanted.
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That's nuts. And not like a cap, like they'll
remove the tooth and inhabit. Yeah, but that would be.
Weird. So like such a weird.
It would be annoying like it thenovelty would wear off pretty
quickly I think, so keep biting your lip.
Yeah, so if you were to talk to Chad, what do you think they
would say your nemesis looks like?
What is your like? What is your superhero nemesis?
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I. Don't know what would yours be?
Captain Straight Edge or the Tolerance Terminator or.
Tolerance Terminator. Chad.
It literally says Chad. Yeah.
And it was like once at college,what the fuck's an RA who says
who actually enjoyed writing people up?
So for contacts. Oh yeah, he's like a dorm
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supervisor. Oh OK, I don't know, I didn't
stay in the door. Remember, Captain Straightedge
was exposed to a potent strain of 0 Chill OG during a failed
government experiment to neutralize the vibe.
Instead of mellowing out, his brain broke the other way,
becoming hypersensitive to anything fun.
Now he dedicates his life to shutting down sashes, exposing
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giggles, and deconstructing snapfilled philosophical debates
with phrases like you know that's not actually how space
works, right? Do you really need another bowl?
And it's 8:00 PM, Shouldn't we be more productive?
So he's got powers like the Buzzkill Beam.
With a snap of his fingers and ajudge mental glance, he can dry
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out even the dankest environmentjoints can.
Oh yeah, joints, canoe bongs, clog, vape pens just
mysteriously die, and he's got aspreadsheet manifestation so we
can summon Excel spreadsheets mid sesh to remind you of
deadlines, budgets, and that onething that you forgot about to
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do 3 weeks ago. That's hilarious.
He's got a sobriety field so within 6 feet of him no one can
get high. Your lighter won't spark,
edibles become placebo, and yourdab rig leaks for no reason so
he's got an algorithmic smite. So he controls your podcast
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algorithm when he's mad. Your reels get shadow banned
when he's pleased. Your worst clip gets 100,000
views for all the wrong reasons.But his weakness?
His eye contact with a golden retriever so he sees a dog being
blissfully dumb. He short circuits emotionally.
Childhood memories flood back and he grips on control.
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His grip on control falters so accidentally inhaling second
hand terps if caught in your terpio aura for too long.
He starts feeling things and this really terrifies him.
The Chad, you know empathy. When he accidentally understands
your point of view, he glitches and starts suggesting maybe we
don't need to monetize everything.
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That's funny, yeah. So did you, did you ever get
into superhero type? You know, you and Emily did the
whole Marvel thing just to do itright?
Just. I I never got into superheroes
like we watched The Dark Knight.I remember that one.
And then I think I've seen one Superman movie.
You know, but the, the, the thing was is like superheroes
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came out for a while and it was fun.
It was fun. But I mean, it's, it's popcorn,
that's all. It's just for entertainment.
I'm not, I don't need to be, butif they're.
Not really good entertaining then.
It's like that's the problem. Is, and that usually comes down
to the director, The director, because I mean, the scripts are
meh. It's the director giving
direction to the actor saying this is what I want you to, to
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be like, to feel like, and, and this is what I want you to show
us. And they're like, Oh yeah, I can
do that. I mean, it's like, you know, if
I want to talk about superheroeson there, like in like in film
for me is Quentin Tarantino because of all his films are
just. Does he have a lot of superhero?
Movies. None.
OK, I just think he's awesome. He does kill Bill, right?
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Yeah, he did. He did a lot of those.
He did Pulp Fiction, Reservoir. I mean, I can go through all of
them. But The thing is like, you know,
I, I missed that. Wish that was like something
like that for superhero because for me my favorite superhero is
the Punisher because he's not. He's not a movie.
Or is it just? A.
He's a character. Netflix series, right?
Oh, it's a it's a old character.They've had multiple movies
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about him. Oh, OK, lots of but the show was
like the all of them were garbage.
All the movies were garbage. They did a video game on
PlayStation two. It was horrific.
You could do these like horriblekillings.
Like it was crazy dude. But it was like, you know, the
Punisher is like he's a a hardcore dude, but he's a
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revenge guy and he is driven by that.
They even did a whole thing in the Marvel Universe where the
Punisher kills the entire X-Men.He kills them all.
He knows how to do it. Oh, damn.
And it's like it's cool because it's like it this make believe
area, but it was by far like oneof my favorite.
I did watch the X-Men ones I liked.
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I like the X-Men series. I liked Logan a lot.
That one was really good. I love.
Deadpool. Deadpool's fucking funny.
Deadpool's good. It's like, it's like a really
sweet dessert. I can't.
I can't watch it all the time. I could, but every once in a
while, like I'll go back and I watch it.
I'm like, that was still good. I know.
I I saw the last one and I was like, yeah.
Is there a third one? Is that what it was?
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Oh yeah, OK, Deadpool and Wolverine.
Oh yeah, yeah, that one. I saw that one once.
Yeah, I saw it once. I don't have a desire to watch
it again it. I'm a huge Captain America fan,
so I watched them. I've watched them multiple
times. I mean, I love them.
I don't think like, I think it was good.
I don't remember it well enough to go like, Oh yeah, I loved it
and I wanted to go watch it again.
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The 1st Deadpool I watched many times.
Because it's funny. It was hilarious.
Yeah, Now I, I look at that, Tim, it's just like, you know,
superheroes were awesome. I, I think that'd be cool.
Like, my kid has his own little superheroes and he loves WWE and
he picks guys as quickly as he would pick flavors of candy.
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He didn't care. He's like, they're all cool.
Yeah, this guy's the winner now.And this guy's the winner now.
And it's cool because he's just into like their world.
Cause did you know that they're upset with each other because of
this dad? And I'm like.
It happens. Did not.
It happens. Dude, that's why I don't
wrestle. And he goes, oh, OK, yeah,
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that's. Why I like to have?
It's so cool dude, 'cause it's, I remember growing up as a kid,
like fantasy was huge for me andmy, and my parents weren't
around. I mean, like I said, during that
time we raised ourselves during the 80s.
So not necessarily raised ourselves, but our parents were.
I don't know, I feel like they really instilled into us to be
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able to survive on our own at that time.
I mean, you take all my siblingsnow all of us looks at my
sister, my youngest sister, all of us can cook really well.
All of us know how to be able totake care of things.
We know how to fix things. We know how to.
I mean, we just, you know, my sister was babysitting at 10.
That's like Phoenix, my youngest, a year older.
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I wouldn't trust him to watch myeggs on the on the stove.
I think I was 11. I watched someone's kids around
my like, the corner for me, but that was because I don't know.
Yeah, I think it depends on the kid.
It totally does. But the one thing that I really
enjoy about my childhood is it was full of imagination and play
and fun. And I'm glad that I didn't have
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superheroes because the superheroes during when I was
growing up was sports greats. I grew up during Bo Jackson and,
you know, David Robinson and Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen,
like this way before Shaq. Like I had Shaq's like rookie
card. I I was big into basketball back
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when, like, Jordan was playing, Pippen was playing John
Stockton, Karl Malone. Yeah, Karl Malone, Larry Bird.
Like why can't? I think of the Dennis Rodman.
My God, dude. The Rodman died, he married
himself. Like all this stuff?
He was crazy. You know, I, I appreciated
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basketball guys during that timeand sports guys.
The reason why? Because they were larger than
life and they were outspoken. Like Michael Jordan had a fuck
ton of money but he wasn't showing up with all sorts of
bling and shit and come look at my house.
He never seemed to like, yeah. No dude I mean cuz he had his
own. Demon.
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There was an MTV Cribs for him. But he just did.
That guy is richer than all those guys.
I I kind of stopped following like after he retired and that I
was kind of like too. I was like, you know, I think
I'm good. I still played basketball all
the time. I loved it but I stopped
watching. Dude, only time I've enjoyed
watching is that whenever I get invited to like a box seat game.
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Oh yeah. That's great.
It's fun because the energy is. There, it's the experience,
Yeah, you know. But then it's just crazy, dude,
how big they are now. Like, it's just like giants
running around on this tiny square.
That's what it looks like when you're above.
You're like, holy. Shit, it's nuts.
But it's this, this idea that like, and, and that's
superheroes, because I remember a long time ago, somebody had
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asked me and they're like, Hey, who's your superhero?
And I said my dad, but I didn't understand that.
I think I was something I was supposed to say.
I, I don't have that because I'm, I'm, I'm in, I just never
have had that. I've never had somebody that I
just I want to emulate ever. Because for me, it wasn't like I
want to be like them at all, other than those that I met in
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martial arts, like in real time or in business, like later on.
Like I could give a shit if I met, like if I met this guy who
was like an awesome sales guy here, dude.
I was like, can I take you out to lunch?
I want to talk to you, dude. It's so cool talking to you.
If I was sitting in front of like Brad Pitt or Tom Cruise,
will be like, hey, yeah, cool that thing you did anyways, I
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enjoyed your movie. Appreciate it.
Like, I don't care. I'm like, oh, what's it like
when you take a shit? Because when I take a shit, it
stinks. It must be different for you.
And he's like, Nope, same deal. Like it's not any different.
But I, I would see these, these men when I was growing up who
did martial arts and stuff like that, and we're good people.
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Police officers for me growing up, I had a lot of really good
experience with police officers and so I respected them a lot.
Wanted to be 1 didn't work out and I'm glad it didn't.
But at the same time, like I really, and I still do, I
respect them quite a bit. If they're a Dick, they're a
person. That guy clearly has issues.
But I, I don't know, man, I never, I never, I said my dad.
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But I'm like, yeah, my dad did alot.
And I love my dad. I love my dad.
I respect my dad. Like I always looked up to my
dad in certain aspects, but there was other things that I
never wanted to be like him, right, You know, But job wise,
for some reason, I always I wanted to be like him when he
was a mailman. I wanted to be a mailman.
Like when he worked at RC Willey, I wanted to work at RC
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Willey and then when he. It's like a little kid pushing
the the lawn mower, the toy lawnmower behind it.
He. Was like, oh, I want to be like
dad, but I don't want to like beat my kids or like I, I don't
want to do these other things. I want to like, I want to take
the goods things that I learned and I want to take that part and
I want to leave behind the things.
And I'm like, you know, that's not necessary.
I don't need that. Like that we learned from his
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dad and that way like there's these things that are kind of
passed down in ways that I'm like, I don't, it's not
necessary. It's not needed.
And I, I don't need to carry that forward for my kids and
their kids or, you know. You break that cycle yeah right.
It's A and that's what we're trying to do I think that's our
superpower now is seeing it and and really working hard to not
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like I I think it's the best quote I've ever heard about
raising kids from Andrew Buzzamante.
He's ex CIA guy, trains people how to be like a CIA person or
see the world as a CIA person. Interesting.
Got to make money somehow. And he talked about he's like,
look, as a parent, my role is tomake sure that my kids are not
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as fucked up as I am. And that's a pretty good
standard because you know, they're not going to get out
unscathed. They're going to have things
that come out. We're all here out of your
control. Yeah.
Environment themselves, whatever.
Well, and even then, like how many times are we human and we
have emotions and we get frustrated or we do something
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and you know, yes, maybe it might not have been the best
response. Like, I know I've not been the
best parent through my whole life and it's something I
continuously try and work on. But I know there's moments that
I'm like, well, yeah, I fucked up.
Yeah, I fucked up. But hoping that there's less of
those than my parents had and hopefully down the road, like
your kid, my kids have less fuckups than than I did.
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Yeah. And you know, and.
I think the one thing that I've learned from from my parents
that the power that I didn't know was there is that I am more
patient now and instead of beinglater because my dad more than
my mom now has patience, he is more.
Patient has more patience than your mom or he's now.
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Now he's around. My mom is never, I mean, she had
her temper and stuff like that, but she was pretty patient with
us. You know, my siblings may
disagree because they had different interactions and you
know what? My parents raised them as
different people. And you know what, like a lot of
people do they they have favourites.
I don't know why, but they do and I I don't.
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I don't either. You know, there's some of my
kids that annoy the fuck out of me that I just don't want to be
around. It doesn't mean I love them any
less or love them more than my other ones.
But, you know, that's kind of how we were treated as kids.
But it was, it was difficult. You've been in a tumultuous
marriage. You're both working, you're
meeting other people, and you all have to raise these kids.
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And you really don't like being in the same space with each
other. You tolerate it because that's
what you're supposed to do. Yeah, that's hard.
Because you have all these all, you have all these kids, you
have 4 kids, most of them are teenagers.
How do you feel obligated? Because you're like, well, I
have to be here and I got to take care.
And there's, you know how to, and I think it's admirable for
those who stay in that one and do it in a way where like my
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parents did, where I know they didn't like each other as much,
but they tried as hard as they could.
And my mom just hit her breakingpoint.
She's like, yeah, despite of anything that she did, despite
anything he did, it didn't matter.
She hit a breaking point. She's like, I'm out of here.
And that was the best thing for my family.
It's, I mean, it's crazy becauseit's, it can be incredibly hard
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to see. But like my parents, they were
basically roommates and businesspartners, great business
partners, but roommates for a couple years before they got
divorced. And all of us kids knew it and
all of us kids were like, you should get divorced.
Like you're not happy. Neither of you are happy.
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And that's where I see like a lot of I had a friend and.
We're all adults. Well, but even then, like it's
the, it's I had a good friend that I worked with at the
hospital for years and I used toteach him and his sons martial
arts every weekend. Like they came for years and we
were trained. And his last kid leaves the
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house and he calls me and I, I trained his kids since they were
young and now they're all adults.
They're all married. They have kids now.
And when the last one had left, he gave me a call.
He says, hey, can I come talk toyou for a bit?
I said sure dude, it'd be great to see you.
We start talking and he's like what the fuck am I supposed to
do now? Like the last kid left and he's
like, I don't know my wife. I don't know who she is.
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And that's the thing that I I see with those who get into a
relationship really young and get married and they're whole,
they just start spitting out kids right away, which I'm all
for people having kids. I think you should have a good,
you should have kids. But as it started going through,
man, like they spend 20 years, 30 years raising children,
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depending on how fast they spellspilled out and then they leave
and now what? We were just maintaining.
Yeah, well, because most of them, and it sucks, but when we
get married super young, we start popping out babies right
away. Most of us are still so young
that we don't really know who weare yet.
We haven't figured any of that out.
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We don't really know a lot aboutour partner because, well, we're
super young. They're super young.
We haven't figured each other out.
We haven't figured out, like none of that's figured out.
And then you start introducing of the responsibilities of
children and more children and then navigating that and raising
their emotions and like, there'sso much you don't have the time.
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No, but you you you can, but at the same time like most.
People don't take the time because it's and so you get a
lot who you said, you know, all the kids are gone.
They're like, who is this personin my house?
Who, who am I sitting with? I don't know anything about this
person. I don't even know if I like this
person. Yeah, he, he, he's like, I don't
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know what to do. He's like, I don't even know
exactly what you just said. That's exactly what he said to
me. And I said, you know, you should
ask her out on a date. And he goes, what?
And I'm like. Get to know who it is.
Dude, just ask her on a date, say hey, do you like to go out
some time? Like like I want to get to know.
And, and he was really hesitant and I kept pushing him and he
did it. And he's like, it was kind of
awkward. And I'm like, yeah, do it again.
Because it's different than whatyou're used to.
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Now they own some like alpaca farm out and Payson or something
like that. And it's cool because they're
still together. But it's this it's it's the idea
that your your role in the marriage is just to provide and
take care of the kids, like for both of you.
And I don't see, I've, I've had a very good marriage.
My wife and I communicate a lot.It has it always been a way?
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No, it was a growth in progress.But we don't give up on each
other and we just keep going andlearning.
And now, I mean, after this recording coming out like my
wife and I, No, Yeah, no. Within like a week my wife and I
are I are going to be celebrating her 20th year
anniversary. Been together for 22 and 23
years, married for 20 and it wasexactly that.
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I was more experienced in the world.
I traveled all over the world, done crazy things.
She was sheltered. You've had experienced a lot
right by then. And it was good because she it
was so foreign to her, everything that I did or said.
Oh yeah, yeah, she's. Like.
Whoa, It's like you were like James and when I not in every
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aspect, but like from the comingfrom the Mormon side of like, oh
shit, this guy's drank. He's done all this stuff like
oh, he. And then so when James came into
the family and he's having theseconversations and it's like, oh
shit. I imagine not the same, but like
similar where it's kind of this shock of like, holy shit, this
is so different than anything that I'm used to.
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Yeah, and it's but the one thingI would say like, you know, it
wasn't. I don't, I don't know about your
parents, but your siblings were really, really welcoming to
James. And James isn't the easiest
person at that time. I hope to be like, yeah, they
were. I.
Remember, I know that my sister was very wary to introduce.
She introduced me first because she was like, oh, you're the
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most like accepting and you won't care.
And he was going through divorceand and I was like, holy shit,
that's kind of a shock that my young sister, like my little
sister is dating a divorcing guyand from the type of person who
she was always like getting on me for swearing or anything I
did. Oh yeah, now she's dating in an
ex. Marine and I was like what the
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fuck like what? It just it didn't compute in my
mind. I'm like, doesn't matter, like.
And so I just, I love him. Like I said, he's a big
Labrador. He's a good guy, he's a good
guy. I mean, you know, but he was
younger and and I remember when I was younger, but the thing
when I came into that family, I was not welcomed at all.
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Like her sister was nice to me. Other sister was decent with.
Me. That's because her dad is.
No, no, no, no. It was just the cult.
Like her mom didn't like me. They all just kind of gave up,
which is funny because now I'm the one that they'll talk to all
the time. And it just goes to show that,
you know, for them it was a goodthing for them because they were
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able to let go of a lot of stigmas and a lot of prejudice
that they had towards people whowere not a part of their
culture. And I never really got along
with my brother-in-law James, other than we were just, we talk
like I can't have deep conversations.
I could talk about video games or something and that's it.
Like father, like son. Yeah, yeah.
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You know, it's well, I could have discussions with my
father-in-law when when we were talking, but.
Good ones. Yeah, I because I control the
conversation. I'm like, I don't want to talk
about what do you want to talk about?
And I would get him to be able to.
Along with those. Oh yeah.
OK, well, because I was able to I I knew what to say to him.
I. Chose not to have many
interactions because none of theinteractions were positive, so I
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just. No.
And you grew up with them? You mitigated those a lot.
More than I did. I didn't know you knew from when
you were a child. Yeah.
You know, I didn't know him verywell.
But I I conned him at a time where he was trying to keep
everybody fooled to what he is. And I saw through that bullshit
a long time ago. My wife said we're not talking
to it anymore and shit, it's here.
And I haven't talked motherfucker since that dude,
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that guy go fuck himself, right?But.
I hope you're listening. Yeah, fuck, even if he is, I
hope you're toking up, motherfucker.
But that would be dope. Yeah, I know, right?
I hope you token up and realize some of the shit you did.
Now he's a narcissist, he won't fucking know, but it's, it's
because of that dude, like I, I see this awesome superpower that
my wife and I have been able to do and the stability of being
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able. I, I've seen that in my kids.
I'm not saying my kids are better than anybody else's, but
I'm just saying like I understand that that kind of
relationship is very strong for them and to be supportive of my
kids, regardless of whatever choices that they make.
Just saying, I love you, I accept you, I care about you and
I want you to know that I will protect you.
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And, and that means against the outside world, regardless if, if
they are friend or foe. And, and that's the thing that
I, I'm trying to like, instill into my kids.
I'm like, you know, just treat people with kindness and
respect, no matter who they are.And it's great for my kids,
'cause, you know, and my daughter especially, she, the
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only thing she says, she goes, yeah, it smells like cannabis
out here. And that's all she said.
But the best part is she said cannabis, right?
I don't say weed or anything like that.
It's it's cannabis. My kids use the the proper
nomenclature. And then on top of that, they
don't see it as bad. Not even my like Steph used to.
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She's like, I don't think you should smoke around Phoenix.
I'm like, you're right, second hand smoke is bad.
And she goes, no, I don't want him to see you.
And I'm joking with her. And I'm like, of course, who
cares? Who cares?
He needs to know this is his dad.
Yeah, this is me. Well, and if it's a medicine who
helps you, that helps you, you're not going oh crap, I got
diabetes. Don't don't look.
Folk don't don't look. I'm take like, well, that helps
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you with something, right? OK, well, I take stuff that
helps me with things too. So wouldn't that be the same
because that helps dad with something Like couldn't it just
be education? It could.
And that's the thing that, you know, I, I, I feel like by doing
that, I'm helping my kids to notbe more well-rounded, but to be
more aware like the world. Here away from it and go, you
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don't have to be afraid of everything, but you should be
aware and let me make you aware of this so you can be educated
when you approach something instead of going, oh shoot, I
need to either be afraid of thator then if they are supposed to
be afraid of it and then they try it and it's like that was
amazing. Well then what?
You know, it's so it's better tojust openly educate.
Well, and they know that, you know, anybody that I've ever
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brought by that consumes cannabis with me, they're all
nice people, They're all very kind, they're all very loving
people. And it's because I choose to
associate with those types of people.
And, and so I'm, I'm helping them to understand these are
healthy relationships that you want.
And I openly, you know, if I do something stupid in front of the
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kids and my wife because I'm getting emotional about
something, I don't want to say I'm sorry I did that.
And I'm sorry, you know, and andmy kids like the biggest thing
I'm like, we don't, I had learned from this old Vietnam
veteran, cool guy, hardcore in the church, but just a cool guy.
And he was the one that asked methe first time he said who after
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I'd had my son Max, like literally a week after I came
back to work and he goes who he has this really lovely.
Who is the most important personin your family in your marriage?
And I'm like thinking, I have tosay my kid, I guess my kid, I
need to take it goes, no, it's your wife because she will be
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there after they all leave. And make sure that you know that
she knows that you're hers and that she is yours.
That's it. Because if your kids come above
it, you will carry a divide. And I saw that with so many
marriages where the wife was only focused on the kids or the
dad was only focused on the kids, but they didn't focus on
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each other. And because of that, it broke
that bond because it's like, OK,great.
But it's, it's so cool. These are the Super.
These are the people that I've learned a lot.
From a lot of people get complacent, like you get in a
relationship, in a marriage and whatever and you get these
habits and your habits become well, we're not dating anymore.
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We're not going out on dates. We're not trying to get to know
this person as they're changing and growing and like, who are
you? What's going on in your life?
Like tell me you know, and really connecting on deeper
levels as we grow. It's there's a lot of like
complacency and just routine that happens that we miss that.
Will you would you go on a date with me?
We're married. Yeah, but you look like I'd like
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to take you out. Would you go on a date with me,
like asking your partner or thatother person, like really
dedicating that time, trying to make him feel special.
Like why do we stop dating the people we start dating when we,
you know, get into it, They're like, oh, hey, we're, we're
really connected now. Well, well, I don't have to work
to keep you because I got you now.
So you know. Yeah, it is weird, right?
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Because you're, you're looking at it from a lens of I, the
reason I didn't want to get married when I was younger,
because I, I didn't want to get married until I was 30.
And there's like, I don't want to do this because I just, I saw
my parents marriage. I saw a lot of I, I had friends
already at this age at 24 when Imet Steph.
We're divorced. We're divorced.
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And I'm like, fuck that. Yeah.
Like I don't mind going around hitting all these skanks.
Right. Well, it's hard.
Like even when I was 22 I had a buddy who was divorced.
Yeah, it's like, what? What?
The hell, like you're just married and then you know, I got
divorced handful of years later and stuff like it.
It happens, but. Well, and it's a product of of
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of it the, and here's just a theory I have, but it's a
generational impact of really surface level marriages for so
long because they all got married for some reason or
another, like they were in love or something you'd hope.
I don't think grandma and grandpa were.
I think it was more of like a. Time.
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It's the yeah, I'm this age, you're this age.
Let's get. You're here.
OK? Yeah.
Let's get married. Let's do this.
OK? Yeah.
Yeah, you come from this area, OK, you have good quality check.
The box. All right, let's go.
All right. Next thing on the box, pop out
babies. OK, All right, Get a college
educate, but got that. OK, Yeah.
And but then when you get to theend, it's kind of like grandpa
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where he loved his wife because.It was his.
Wife. It was his wife.
That's all he knew. But at the same time, I don't
think he was ever in love. No.
And that, to me, is a tragedy. Yeah, but he's never experienced
what being in love would have been.
Like and maintaining it. Dude, my wife and I've been
together for 23 years, 23 years,and I'm more attracted to her
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now than I was when we first gottogether.
And she's like, what are you talking about?
I've had five kids and twins and, you know, and I'm like, no,
I'm glad that you're not as skinny as when I hooked up with.
You because the first bit it's different, it's like this
infatuation, this connection, like it's it's new relationship
energy of this excitement of that.
But then as you connect with thehuman, it grows into a deeper
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type of love. It's a different attraction,
like, Oh yeah, as long as you connect with that person if you
are really trying to grow and and like understand them and
like not just want them to be a specific way.
True. You know, but understanding who
they really are and going like, you know, lots of us have trauma
(46:46):
or shit we're dealing with and how many of it's like, OK, well,
maybe they haven't navigated that or, you know, but again, it
just depends on the relationshipand.
And, and that's the cool part, like if, if, if you're able to
start going through and actuallyhave some discussions.
This is what cannabis has done for our relationship is that
it's helped my wife and I be able to bond over certain things
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or relax. It's it's something we do, you
know, if we go to the movies or it's something we do before we
have sex or, or it's something that we do, you know, just
because like today's been hard and she'll ask me what, which
edible do I take to help me feelmore like this?
I'm like, Oh, well, tell me about your day.
And then I'm like, OK, now I just labeled the edibles what
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they are, sleep, chill, pain, right?
And energy, happiness like. And, and it does that for her.
And that's what's so great because now we can have these
deep conversations or just chill.
Like that's the great thing too.Like we are at a point in our
marriage where she could sit in one side of the bed and read her
book and I could sit over there playing with Chad or playing a
(47:53):
video game and. And it doesn't matter.
I'm not avoiding. Intent that you're just.
You can be there together, but you don't have to be doing the
same thing. No, and we don't have to be
right by each other. We don't have to be smothering
each other, even though we're very affectionate.
It's just like, you know, I, I know I love you and that's great
and I'm I'm, I'm always here andI only want to be with you.
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And that's, that's what the great thing, man, that's where I
feel like that strength, that muscle that is built up over
time is that because we've been able to go through those
challenges and try to learn fromit, that our bond is stronger,
our love is stronger. But I always think about my
kids. I'm like, what example am I
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setting for them? If they have a relationship,
what can they base it off of? And what's really cool, bro, and
I'll leave it at this is my son who's 18 and he's making some
really adult decisions in his relationships with his friends
and with his girlfriend. And he said something to me that
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was just profound on these like,you know, sometimes I know that
I know she's the right one for me, but I don't know if I'm the
right one for her, but I love her.
I'm going to stay with her for right now.
And he he has his healthy boundaries, but he even knows
like he's because he's seen whatwe've gone through.
So he comes to us, he talks to us about it.
And dude, that was like a for a while I was like, this kids
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fucking done. Like, I don't know how he's
going to live. This is fucking stupid.
And then all of a sudden he shows me this and I'm like, oh,
maybe I didn't fuck up because it wasn't.
He's stupid. Is that I fucked up and that's
what passed from my parents. Yeah, that's what passed from
your parents. Oh, yeah.
And now you got, you've got somereally good kids.
I got good kids and I got, I gotI have a positive outlook for my
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kids in the future because we'vebeen good stoners, dude.
Yeah, we've been good stoners. Hey, so Spotify has this cool
thing now that we can have conversations in the comments
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we can actually respond and havethat.
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