January 24, 2025 • 18 mins
In this episode of the Cape CopCast "Chief's Chat" edition, we're giving you updates on several major projects within the Cape Coral Police Department. We're gearing up for the annual NAMI Walk, benefitting the National Alliance on Mental Illness. Chief Sizemore, the king of analogies, then illustrates the progress of Project 35 using the analogy of building a snowman. We also talk about entering the design and development phase of our police precinct buildings, which will be in each of the four quadrants of the city.
We also recount a tale that exemplifies the power of teamwork and the spirit of Cape Coral. When a local gentleman experienced cardiac arrest, a quick-thinking family member and our dedicated police and fire rescue teams came together to save his life. We talk about reuniting with the man and his family, complete with plans for a future golf outing. It's stories like these that make us pause and appreciate the unique teamwork that thrives in our community.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
How's it going?
Welcome back to another episodeof the Cape Cop cast Chiefs
Chat Edition.
I'm one of your hosts, LisaGreenberg.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
And I'm Officer Mercedes Simons.
Together we make up the PublicAffairs Office, and once again
we have Chief Sizemore with us.
How you doing.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
I'm great.
How are you?
Good, it's been a good week,can't complain.
Chilly week, so cold.
I can't complain.
Actually, I'm over the rain,the cold can stay, but I need
some sunshine.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Yes, this weekend.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
We were talking.
It's interesting too this week.
One of the big things thatwe've been dealing with this
week and working on is planningfor the NAMI Walk that's coming
up in March, and I was talkingto the chief about T-shirt
designs and I'm like, oh well,you know a light color is good
in case people get really sweatyand gross, and he was like it
actually might be just like thisfor the NAMI walk.
It's in the beginning of March.
We might be dealing with coolweather like this for that walk.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
March.
I always use spring training,right Because you have the twins
, the Red Sox, now the Bravesare up in Northport the
beginning of the month.
Sometimes you could be wearingjackets and sweatshirts.
You could be wearing jacketsand sweatshirts, and by the end
of the month it's hot, yeah,right, and there's a time change
right in the middle.
So the NAMI Walk is thebeginning of March, so we could
be very close to what we hadthis week, or it could be summer
(01:14):
already.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Yeah, I'm excited.
I'm looking forward to the NAMIWalk.
It's an awesome event.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
March 8th, right March 8th, saturday, march 8th
it's an evening walk, a sunsetwalk, centennial Park, downtown
Fort Myers.
So you got the bands playing,the playground's open.
They're back from Ian it looksgreat down there Our partners
with the city of Fort Myers andall of our nonprofits and all of
(01:40):
our sponsors and ourparticipants.
It's a big party and that's agreat kickoff at four o'clock
right, so all the families areout, there's food trucks and
then right around six o'clock wejust go right down Edwards
Drive to the Edison Bridge andby the time they time it perfect
, you hit the peak of the EdisonBridge right at sunset.
Photo moments.
(02:00):
It's really a great, greatevent.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
It's beautiful.
Honestly, it was awesome lastyear and, for anyone who doesn't
know, nami stands for NationalAlliance on Mental Illness.
Correct, this is something thatyou're very passionate about.
You serve on the board.
I know we talked a little bitabout it in a prior podcast, so
we don't have to get too deep,but we're just excited because
we're finally in the realplanning stages and getting our
team together and the t-shirtdesigns and all that good stuff.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
I don't want to jinx it, but we are once again the
biggest team and I believe ourteam is the biggest sponsor
getter.
If that's Sponsor getter,sponsor getter Official, that's
awesome Accumulator of donations.
We're winning.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
That's awesome.
Yeah, outside of NAMI and theplanning, we've also been
talking a lot about Project 35.
And it's interesting becausewe've been talking so much about
the planning, planning,planning, and while we are still
planning, we're actuallystarting to see that plan come
more to life.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
It's taking shape.
So we'll go on the winter theme, right?
So our friends in the panhandlegot like six inches of snow.
So if you're going to build asnowman, there is no book on how
to do it.
You just start grabbing snow.
Doing nothing is not an option.
I say that all the time formany different things in my
personal life and also here.
Doing nothing is not an option.
So if you're going to buildsomething and you really don't
(03:16):
know it's never been done before, it's a new concept.
Start doing something.
So start grabbing snow, juststart pulling it in and before
you know it it's going to takeshape.
So start grabbing snow, juststart pulling it in and before
you know it it's going to takeshape.
And then you know what to do.
You start making the body, thehead, the corncob pipe, the
whole thing that all of ourfriends in Pensacola are doing
this week.
But the Project 35 was a plan.
(03:36):
It was a dream or an idea or aconcept.
It was a vapor.
And what's happened is wetalked about it, I think last
week or the week before, wherewe actually had our first
strategic planning session withall of our brains to get
together to lay out what we looklike 10 years from now so that
we can take that plan andreverse engineer it.
10 years to get our budgets.
(03:57):
And we got our first proofsback right.
A lot of the notes and workingmaterial from that strategy
session are on paper and we'relooking at it and we're putting
it together to, to, to grab thatsnow and it's starting to take
shape, which is really cool.
So there's a it's the winterworkshop for budget, and budget
(04:19):
in government is like thenational hockey League it never
stops, right?
It's a long season.
So budget is planning,development.
They break it down into majorcapital, they break it down even
further into personnel and thenoperating.
And you have to develop andplan.
(04:39):
And you do all of this prepwork internally as a department,
then you do it as a city, thenit gets presented to the public
and you make sure that whatyou're asking for, what you're
designing, is in line with whatthe public wants, right, because
that's what we all do, isprovide a service to the public.
So are we delivering on what isexpected in the community, and
(05:00):
then that gets voted on and thenit gets funded and that's the
big celebration.
Is that all of the things thatwe've been planning for, to
deliver to our community we'reable to do.
It's funded, let's go.
That's the championship forhockey, right?
And then the off season isabout five minutes and then you
start training camp for the nextseason or the next development,
(05:22):
or to stay on pace and to keepto keep growing, keep
maneuvering.
So we are in almost the end ofthe regular season for budget,
because now we're starting totalk to the public, to our
elected officials, in a publicformat of.
This is what we're coming upwith.
Are you guys good with it?
Are we along the same lines?
(05:44):
We share the same vision?
So it's almost the playoffseason for budget as we start
working towards developing anactual budget to submit.
So, to take our concept of,we're going to change it up a
little bit.
Let's get everything in line tohaving something in your hand
now where you can picture whatwe look like 10 years from now
(06:05):
and put it into into play.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
It's exciting, it's super exciting, really cool,
that's awesome yeah, I love it.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
I think that it's.
It's going to be really cooljust working backwards.
I don't think anybody's reallythought to do that before.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
So, um, and we especially need that with the
exponential growth for sure,it'd be great, for sure, and
part of that is talking aboutour precincts and getting those
designed and developed anddeveloped, and we're in that
process now right.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
We're pretty much the theme for all of our planning
now is the dreams are startingto turn into real strategic
plans.
So a strategic plan that is notbacked up by or engaged with
budget or funding is just a wish.
It becomes a strategic planwhen you have the funding
mechanism in place, and that forus is municipal budgeting,
(06:54):
forfeiture money, grant fundingall different revenue streams.
So we're attaching fundingsources to our plans, and one
such plan is the precincts thatwe've been talking about and,
without going too deep into itagain, a precinct is a section
of the city.
We have four of them and itmirrors your address southeast,
(07:15):
southwest, northeast, northwest.
So if you live in the southeastcape, your address is southeast
something here in the southeastprecinct.
As we grow and get bigger, itwill become much more
challenging for you to come tothis building to get police
service.
So what we want to do isreplicate full police service in
a precinct building in yourgeographic area, so that it's
(07:38):
better service for you.
During blue skies or after adisaster, you need police
services.
You can go to your precinctsubstation located in your
geographic area and get all ofthe same services that you would
get here.
Well, that concept is nowstarting to come into a real
plan.
So even today, there's ameeting later this afternoon
(08:01):
where we're talking about actualconcepts of what those
buildings will look and feellike.
In the experience you will getas an employee working in them
and a member of the publicpatronizing those establishments
, if you will.
So that's another excitingthing for us too.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Are things going to kind of have the same feel and
look to all the differentprecincts?
Are they going to have theirown vibe?
Speaker 3 (08:24):
They'll have a little bit of a different vibe.
I'll give you an exampleSoutheast is the most densely
populated, oldest precinct thatwe have, so there's not a lot of
available land.
And you want to fit,architecturally and footprint
size-wise, with the neighborhood.
(08:44):
We want to be good neighbors sothat precinct is going to look
different than Northwest.
So Northwest Cape is our newestto develop.
There's more ample land.
It doesn't look odd to have awider footprint, so we'll be
able to store some assets upthere.
Some of our high water vehiclescan be stored up there while
(09:05):
there's no storms.
That you just won't be able todo in a tighter footprint of
Southeast.
But the user experience will bevery similar.
We want consistency.
If you go to certain areas ofthe country, if there's a
McDonald's restaurant, you canlook like what you picture in
(09:26):
your head, and then there'sother kind of swanky areas that
will allow a McDonald's but thefacade has to look and feel and
fit the same way.
But when you go into theestablishment you know what
you're going to get.
That's what we want to do ishave that franchise brand
experience that when you walk inyou will have a records
professional to engage with, adesk officer to engage with and
(09:49):
any of the services that youwould need you will be able to
get at any one of our facilities.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
You have the best analogies.
I just have to say we've hadlike three of them in this
episode and I'm like these areincredible.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Snowmen McDonald's hockey season.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
I'll give you a funny one.
So I was going through theprocess to get the permanent
chief's job.
So I was the interim chief.
They did a national search.
There were 70-somethingcandidates and we did a series
of exercises and the roleplayers that we had to engage
with were current chiefs thatare in the Florida Police Chief
Association.
So later they became my peersand friends of mine and people I
(10:26):
lean on.
But I didn't know a lot of them, especially during the process.
You couldn't have anyrelationship with them or it
would have been a bias.
So we were going through thisone scenario and it was a
replication of you as the chief,correcting a command staff
member who let you down or didsome performance issue and I
utilized because that's just theway I talk and the reason I
(10:49):
talk that way is because that'sthe way I see it in my head.
So I use pictures, right, I'm apicture book guy, I guess.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
That's awesome.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
So I translate what I see.
Well, if I can understand itlike that, then you would
understand it.
So I communicate in visualslike that, or analogies, and
they try to get you off yourgame when you're in these
scenarios.
And the guy said I don't likeanalogies.
And they try to get you offyour game when you're in these
scenarios.
And the guy said I don't likeanalogies, don't talk to me with
analogies, I don't respond tothem.
And without even thinking, Isaid well, that's the way I
(11:18):
communicate, so you better getused to it.
And he went okay, understood.
And afterwards, when youdebrief, we laughed because he
goes yeah, I totally said thatto throw you off.
And my response was I can't notspeak that way, so I better set
the tone or I'm going to bereally off for the rest of it.
But that's the way Icommunicate.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
That's awesome.
Well, when you turn trafficenforcement into the layers of
the cake, that's when I knew, ok, he's good at this, he's good
at this.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
It all started from episode one.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
It all started from episode one.
It all started from episode one.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
It's so true I still hear about that one.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Oh yeah, I mean I'm pretty sure it's our most
listened to episode.
That's good.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
I think we still bring up layers of the cake when
we're explaining, becausethat's something that we explain
all the time.
We frequently throw in the cakeanalogy because it's so complex
and it works.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
You have to explain a system or a topic or an idea
from.
Phd to GED and you got one shotand they all got to get it
Exactly.
So how do you do it?
You do it with pictures.
You do it with stuff people canrelate to.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Bonus points for food .
And if you haven't listened tothat episode yet, that one is
our first episode in our podcastfeed, so make sure to give that
one a listen.
One other thing I wanted totalk about before we wrap things
up is we had a pretty big win.
We did something really coolwith the fire department
yesterday.
Some of our guys got recognizedfor being involved in saving a
man's life who was in cardiacarrest.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Tell us a little bit more about that so we can share
it with the people what anawesome event yesterday was, and
tip of the cap to the firedepartment for putting it
together and for the family ofthe gentleman who, quite frankly
, I don't think would be heretoday if what happened by our
first responders didn't happen.
And what happened, you mightask, is a gentleman in our
(13:03):
community was experiencingcardiac arrest or having a heart
attack.
Right If we're going to saywhat happened experiencing
cardiac arrest or having a heartattack.
Right If we're going to justsay what happened.
And a family member of hisimmediately started what the
fire department I learned a termis called bystander CPR, which
I think is anybody but them,those CPR.
She started administering chestcompressions, was on the phone
(13:25):
with 911, and then our officersfrom the police department
happened to be in the area, gotthere first and took over and
they began chest compressionsand continued until our fire
rescue personnel came over orcame in and assumed the task and
utilized more advancedtechnology and then got the
(13:46):
gentleman transported andcutting to the end.
He's alive and thriving.
And we celebrated at the firestation from which the
firefighters responded with theman, his relative, his daughters
were there and it was anemotional scene.
(14:07):
It was all the firefighters whoworked on them, all the police
officers who responded, myself,the fire chief.
You were there and what wasreally cool was just the impact
that hit home for the family.
The young lady who wasorganizing it.
She brought little plaques andread something, but she kept
saying my dad is here because ofwhat you guys did and we were
(14:30):
talking before the episode.
Today that and just two topicsago, we're talking big plans and
10 years down the line and it'smoving very fast.
There's almost a quartermillion people here, more coming
every day.
It's just moving and moving andmoving.
And what we did yesterday waswe hit pause, pause.
We stopped and took oneincident to all these people and
(14:53):
all these stories and all theselives going in a million
different directions and all thegrowth that we're doing.
We just stopped it and took oneexample and really did a deep
dive into this family and to see, you know, we think big, think
big.
And yesterday we thought smallYep day, we thought small yep
and man, that was really reallycool to see what an impact one
(15:15):
call for service, one usage oftraining and teamwork to have a
real life.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
And I'll let you guys tell the cool nugget at the end
well, so I was talking to oneof the officers, um, who was
first on scene after the familymember started cpr, and I guess
he was talking to the guy whoselife he saved and I guess they
exchanged phone numbers andthey're planning on going
golfing, that's so cool.
And that might seem.
I mean that's obviously verycool, but I think it means a lot
(15:46):
to see the outcome of someonewhose life you saved.
I think a lot of times it'sjust call to call for officers
and then you almost don't eventhink about it at the end of the
night, even if you savesomebody's life.
But to see the person whoselife you saved in the family
that it impacted is just verycool and that's so rare for us
to be able to see too Well, tohighlight it right.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
We've heard of that and I've almost 30 years for me.
I've heard that story, I'vebeen kind of a part of that
story To see the human side ofit and it's absolutely 100%
impactful for the family.
That's a no-brainer.
But I think that golf outing isgoing to be so therapeutic for
(16:32):
our officer that I wouldn't begolfing with this guy either
getting beat by him or beatinghim or whatever you do.
This wouldn't happen if thatdidn't happen.
And how cool is that?
Speaker 2 (16:41):
It's so cool and that partnership with the fire
department for us is awesome toofor them to call us out to
their location and include us,and everything was really,
really awesome too, because wework in tandem with them all the
time.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
We have a relationship with them that I
think other communities it'sforeign.
I mean, of course you're goingto be professional when the
flames are flickering and thebullets are flying, but here in
Cape Coral we support each otherall the time and it's just not
that kind of rivalry that peoplethink about, because it doesn't
happen here.
It's really a partnership, it'sa brotherhood.
As a matter of fact, yesterdayI had lunch with the fire chief
(17:16):
and his number two, because webounce ideas off of each other
to make sure we're good leadersand good stewards of the
community.
So it was something yesterday.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
It was great.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
I think maybe we'll kind of incorporate a little
good stuff at the end of everypodcast.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Yeah, I like it.
It's been nice the last coupleof weeks, and on a positive note
for sure.
Well, thank you so much forjoining us again and hanging out
.
We appreciate you.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
You got it.
Have a great weekend.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Sounds good.
See you next time, take care,enjoy the weather.
How's it going?
Welcome back to another episodeof the Cape Cop cast Chiefs
Chat Edition.
I'm one of your hosts, LisaGreenberg.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
And I'm Officer Mercedes Simons.
Together we make up the PublicAffairs Office, and once again
we have Chief Sizemore with us.
How you doing.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
I'm great.
How are you?
Good, it's been a good week,can't complain.
Chilly week, so cold.
I can't complain.
Actually, I'm over the rain,the cold can stay, but I need
some sunshine.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Yes, this weekend.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
We were talking.
It's interesting too this week.
One of the big things thatwe've been dealing with this
week and working on is planningfor the NAMI Walk that's coming
up in March, and I was talkingto the chief about T-shirt
designs and I'm like, oh well,you know a light color is good
in case people get really sweatyand gross, and he was like it
actually might be just like thisfor the NAMI walk.
It's in the beginning of March.
We might be dealing with coolweather like this for that walk.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
March.
I always use spring training,right Because you have the twins
, the Red Sox, now the Bravesare up in Northport the
beginning of the month.
Sometimes you could be wearingjackets and sweatshirts.
You could be wearing jacketsand sweatshirts, and by the end
of the month it's hot, yeah,right, and there's a time change
right in the middle.
So the NAMI Walk is thebeginning of March, so we could
be very close to what we hadthis week, or it could be summer
(01:14):
already.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Yeah, I'm excited.
I'm looking forward to the NAMIWalk.
It's an awesome event.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
March 8th, right March 8th, saturday, march 8th
it's an evening walk, a sunsetwalk, centennial Park, downtown
Fort Myers.
So you got the bands playing,the playground's open.
They're back from Ian it looksgreat down there Our partners
with the city of Fort Myers andall of our nonprofits and all of
(01:40):
our sponsors and ourparticipants.
It's a big party and that's agreat kickoff at four o'clock
right, so all the families areout, there's food trucks and
then right around six o'clock wejust go right down Edwards
Drive to the Edison Bridge andby the time they time it perfect
, you hit the peak of the EdisonBridge right at sunset.
Photo moments.
(02:00):
It's really a great, greatevent.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
It's beautiful.
Honestly, it was awesome lastyear and, for anyone who doesn't
know, nami stands for NationalAlliance on Mental Illness.
Correct, this is something thatyou're very passionate about.
You serve on the board.
I know we talked a little bitabout it in a prior podcast, so
we don't have to get too deep,but we're just excited because
we're finally in the realplanning stages and getting our
team together and the t-shirtdesigns and all that good stuff.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
I don't want to jinx it, but we are once again the
biggest team and I believe ourteam is the biggest sponsor
getter.
If that's Sponsor getter,sponsor getter Official, that's
awesome Accumulator of donations.
We're winning.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
That's awesome.
Yeah, outside of NAMI and theplanning, we've also been
talking a lot about Project 35.
And it's interesting becausewe've been talking so much about
the planning, planning,planning, and while we are still
planning, we're actuallystarting to see that plan come
more to life.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
It's taking shape.
So we'll go on the winter theme, right?
So our friends in the panhandlegot like six inches of snow.
So if you're going to build asnowman, there is no book on how
to do it.
You just start grabbing snow.
Doing nothing is not an option.
I say that all the time formany different things in my
personal life and also here.
Doing nothing is not an option.
So if you're going to buildsomething and you really don't
(03:16):
know it's never been done before, it's a new concept.
Start doing something.
So start grabbing snow, juststart pulling it in and before
you know it it's going to takeshape.
So start grabbing snow, juststart pulling it in and before
you know it it's going to takeshape.
And then you know what to do.
You start making the body, thehead, the corncob pipe, the
whole thing that all of ourfriends in Pensacola are doing
this week.
But the Project 35 was a plan.
(03:36):
It was a dream or an idea or aconcept.
It was a vapor.
And what's happened is wetalked about it, I think last
week or the week before, wherewe actually had our first
strategic planning session withall of our brains to get
together to lay out what we looklike 10 years from now so that
we can take that plan andreverse engineer it.
10 years to get our budgets.
(03:57):
And we got our first proofsback right.
A lot of the notes and workingmaterial from that strategy
session are on paper and we'relooking at it and we're putting
it together to, to, to grab thatsnow and it's starting to take
shape, which is really cool.
So there's a it's the winterworkshop for budget, and budget
(04:19):
in government is like thenational hockey League it never
stops, right?
It's a long season.
So budget is planning,development.
They break it down into majorcapital, they break it down even
further into personnel and thenoperating.
And you have to develop andplan.
(04:39):
And you do all of this prepwork internally as a department,
then you do it as a city, thenit gets presented to the public
and you make sure that whatyou're asking for, what you're
designing, is in line with whatthe public wants, right, because
that's what we all do, isprovide a service to the public.
So are we delivering on what isexpected in the community, and
(05:00):
then that gets voted on and thenit gets funded and that's the
big celebration.
Is that all of the things thatwe've been planning for, to
deliver to our community we'reable to do.
It's funded, let's go.
That's the championship forhockey, right?
And then the off season isabout five minutes and then you
start training camp for the nextseason or the next development,
(05:22):
or to stay on pace and to keepto keep growing, keep
maneuvering.
So we are in almost the end ofthe regular season for budget,
because now we're starting totalk to the public, to our
elected officials, in a publicformat of.
This is what we're coming upwith.
Are you guys good with it?
Are we along the same lines?
(05:44):
We share the same vision?
So it's almost the playoffseason for budget as we start
working towards developing anactual budget to submit.
So, to take our concept of,we're going to change it up a
little bit.
Let's get everything in line tohaving something in your hand
now where you can picture whatwe look like 10 years from now
(06:05):
and put it into into play.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
It's exciting, it's super exciting, really cool,
that's awesome yeah, I love it.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
I think that it's.
It's going to be really cooljust working backwards.
I don't think anybody's reallythought to do that before.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
So, um, and we especially need that with the
exponential growth for sure,it'd be great, for sure, and
part of that is talking aboutour precincts and getting those
designed and developed anddeveloped, and we're in that
process now right.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
We're pretty much the theme for all of our planning
now is the dreams are startingto turn into real strategic
plans.
So a strategic plan that is notbacked up by or engaged with
budget or funding is just a wish.
It becomes a strategic planwhen you have the funding
mechanism in place, and that forus is municipal budgeting,
(06:54):
forfeiture money, grant fundingall different revenue streams.
So we're attaching fundingsources to our plans, and one
such plan is the precincts thatwe've been talking about and,
without going too deep into itagain, a precinct is a section
of the city.
We have four of them and itmirrors your address southeast,
(07:15):
southwest, northeast, northwest.
So if you live in the southeastcape, your address is southeast
something here in the southeastprecinct.
As we grow and get bigger, itwill become much more
challenging for you to come tothis building to get police
service.
So what we want to do isreplicate full police service in
a precinct building in yourgeographic area, so that it's
(07:38):
better service for you.
During blue skies or after adisaster, you need police
services.
You can go to your precinctsubstation located in your
geographic area and get all ofthe same services that you would
get here.
Well, that concept is nowstarting to come into a real
plan.
So even today, there's ameeting later this afternoon
(08:01):
where we're talking about actualconcepts of what those
buildings will look and feellike.
In the experience you will getas an employee working in them
and a member of the publicpatronizing those establishments
, if you will.
So that's another excitingthing for us too.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Are things going to kind of have the same feel and
look to all the differentprecincts?
Are they going to have theirown vibe?
Speaker 3 (08:24):
They'll have a little bit of a different vibe.
I'll give you an exampleSoutheast is the most densely
populated, oldest precinct thatwe have, so there's not a lot of
available land.
And you want to fit,architecturally and footprint
size-wise, with the neighborhood.
(08:44):
We want to be good neighbors sothat precinct is going to look
different than Northwest.
So Northwest Cape is our newestto develop.
There's more ample land.
It doesn't look odd to have awider footprint, so we'll be
able to store some assets upthere.
Some of our high water vehiclescan be stored up there while
(09:05):
there's no storms.
That you just won't be able todo in a tighter footprint of
Southeast.
But the user experience will bevery similar.
We want consistency.
If you go to certain areas ofthe country, if there's a
McDonald's restaurant, you canlook like what you picture in
(09:26):
your head, and then there'sother kind of swanky areas that
will allow a McDonald's but thefacade has to look and feel and
fit the same way.
But when you go into theestablishment you know what
you're going to get.
That's what we want to do ishave that franchise brand
experience that when you walk inyou will have a records
professional to engage with, adesk officer to engage with and
(09:49):
any of the services that youwould need you will be able to
get at any one of our facilities.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
You have the best analogies.
I just have to say we've hadlike three of them in this
episode and I'm like these areincredible.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Snowmen McDonald's hockey season.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
I'll give you a funny one.
So I was going through theprocess to get the permanent
chief's job.
So I was the interim chief.
They did a national search.
There were 70-somethingcandidates and we did a series
of exercises and the roleplayers that we had to engage
with were current chiefs thatare in the Florida Police Chief
Association.
So later they became my peersand friends of mine and people I
(10:26):
lean on.
But I didn't know a lot of them, especially during the process.
You couldn't have anyrelationship with them or it
would have been a bias.
So we were going through thisone scenario and it was a
replication of you as the chief,correcting a command staff
member who let you down or didsome performance issue and I
utilized because that's just theway I talk and the reason I
(10:49):
talk that way is because that'sthe way I see it in my head.
So I use pictures, right, I'm apicture book guy, I guess.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
That's awesome.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
So I translate what I see.
Well, if I can understand itlike that, then you would
understand it.
So I communicate in visualslike that, or analogies, and
they try to get you off yourgame when you're in these
scenarios.
And the guy said I don't likeanalogies.
And they try to get you offyour game when you're in these
scenarios.
And the guy said I don't likeanalogies, don't talk to me with
analogies, I don't respond tothem.
And without even thinking, Isaid well, that's the way I
(11:18):
communicate, so you better getused to it.
And he went okay, understood.
And afterwards, when youdebrief, we laughed because he
goes yeah, I totally said thatto throw you off.
And my response was I can't notspeak that way, so I better set
the tone or I'm going to bereally off for the rest of it.
But that's the way Icommunicate.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
That's awesome.
Well, when you turn trafficenforcement into the layers of
the cake, that's when I knew, ok, he's good at this, he's good
at this.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
It all started from episode one.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
It all started from episode one.
It all started from episode one.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
It's so true I still hear about that one.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Oh yeah, I mean I'm pretty sure it's our most
listened to episode.
That's good.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
I think we still bring up layers of the cake when
we're explaining, becausethat's something that we explain
all the time.
We frequently throw in the cakeanalogy because it's so complex
and it works.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
You have to explain a system or a topic or an idea
from.
Phd to GED and you got one shotand they all got to get it
Exactly.
So how do you do it?
You do it with pictures.
You do it with stuff people canrelate to.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Bonus points for food .
And if you haven't listened tothat episode yet, that one is
our first episode in our podcastfeed, so make sure to give that
one a listen.
One other thing I wanted totalk about before we wrap things
up is we had a pretty big win.
We did something really coolwith the fire department
yesterday.
Some of our guys got recognizedfor being involved in saving a
man's life who was in cardiacarrest.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Tell us a little bit more about that so we can share
it with the people what anawesome event yesterday was, and
tip of the cap to the firedepartment for putting it
together and for the family ofthe gentleman who, quite frankly
, I don't think would be heretoday if what happened by our
first responders didn't happen.
And what happened, you mightask, is a gentleman in our
(13:03):
community was experiencingcardiac arrest or having a heart
attack.
Right If we're going to saywhat happened experiencing
cardiac arrest or having a heartattack.
Right If we're going to justsay what happened.
And a family member of hisimmediately started what the
fire department I learned a termis called bystander CPR, which
I think is anybody but them,those CPR.
She started administering chestcompressions, was on the phone
(13:25):
with 911, and then our officersfrom the police department
happened to be in the area, gotthere first and took over and
they began chest compressionsand continued until our fire
rescue personnel came over orcame in and assumed the task and
utilized more advancedtechnology and then got the
(13:46):
gentleman transported andcutting to the end.
He's alive and thriving.
And we celebrated at the firestation from which the
firefighters responded with theman, his relative, his daughters
were there and it was anemotional scene.
(14:07):
It was all the firefighters whoworked on them, all the police
officers who responded, myself,the fire chief.
You were there and what wasreally cool was just the impact
that hit home for the family.
The young lady who wasorganizing it.
She brought little plaques andread something, but she kept
saying my dad is here because ofwhat you guys did and we were
(14:30):
talking before the episode.
Today that and just two topicsago, we're talking big plans and
10 years down the line and it'smoving very fast.
There's almost a quartermillion people here, more coming
every day.
It's just moving and moving andmoving.
And what we did yesterday waswe hit pause, pause.
We stopped and took oneincident to all these people and
(14:53):
all these stories and all theselives going in a million
different directions and all thegrowth that we're doing.
We just stopped it and took oneexample and really did a deep
dive into this family and to see, you know, we think big, think
big.
And yesterday we thought smallYep day, we thought small yep
and man, that was really reallycool to see what an impact one
(15:15):
call for service, one usage oftraining and teamwork to have a
real life.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
And I'll let you guys tell the cool nugget at the end
well, so I was talking to oneof the officers, um, who was
first on scene after the familymember started cpr, and I guess
he was talking to the guy whoselife he saved and I guess they
exchanged phone numbers andthey're planning on going
golfing, that's so cool.
And that might seem.
I mean that's obviously verycool, but I think it means a lot
(15:46):
to see the outcome of someonewhose life you saved.
I think a lot of times it'sjust call to call for officers
and then you almost don't eventhink about it at the end of the
night, even if you savesomebody's life.
But to see the person whoselife you saved in the family
that it impacted is just verycool and that's so rare for us
to be able to see too Well, tohighlight it right.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
We've heard of that and I've almost 30 years for me.
I've heard that story, I'vebeen kind of a part of that
story To see the human side ofit and it's absolutely 100%
impactful for the family.
That's a no-brainer.
But I think that golf outing isgoing to be so therapeutic for
(16:32):
our officer that I wouldn't begolfing with this guy either
getting beat by him or beatinghim or whatever you do.
This wouldn't happen if thatdidn't happen.
And how cool is that?
Speaker 2 (16:41):
It's so cool and that partnership with the fire
department for us is awesome toofor them to call us out to
their location and include us,and everything was really,
really awesome too, because wework in tandem with them all the
time.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
We have a relationship with them that I
think other communities it'sforeign.
I mean, of course you're goingto be professional when the
flames are flickering and thebullets are flying, but here in
Cape Coral we support each otherall the time and it's just not
that kind of rivalry that peoplethink about, because it doesn't
happen here.
It's really a partnership, it'sa brotherhood.
As a matter of fact, yesterdayI had lunch with the fire chief
(17:16):
and his number two, because webounce ideas off of each other
to make sure we're good leadersand good stewards of the
community.
So it was something yesterday.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
It was great.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
I think maybe we'll kind of incorporate a little
good stuff at the end of everypodcast.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Yeah, I like it.
It's been nice the last coupleof weeks, and on a positive note
for sure.
Well, thank you so much forjoining us again and hanging out
.
We appreciate you.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
You got it.
Have a great weekend.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Sounds good.
See you next time, take care,enjoy the weather.
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