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Bowl, Mr Jim Barlow and Mr Rob Zadai.

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Full house. Gentlemen, how are we all?
Awesome. Good.
Thank you. Thank you.
Good to see you guys Jimmy'z back again.
Can't get enough of us mate. No, definitely can't.
He wants to win the quiz again. He.
Does. Yeah, that might also be part of
it too. Have you listened back to last
week's episode, Jim? When you're like, oh, I was so

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good. I did.
I did actually today, because when I got to the end and I said
what I said of the quiz, and forthose who haven't heard it yet,
then I suggest you listen because I thought it was quite
funny. I completely forgot what I said.
And then I thought, well, it's got to become like a bit of a
stand. I got to know what I said.
So absolutely. That's right.
And I think last week we we realised that we've got a few

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different plugs now we've got David's wisdom.
Yeah, we've got to come up. With something wise, yeah,
you've got to have something wise.
Jim's Jim's mowing and obviouslywe've got Charles deliveries.
Rob's doing everything essentially and Scotty's got for
the week, but we'll get to that at the end of the show.
Let's get into some car updates though, gentlemen.

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I'll start with you, Jim. You've had an interesting week.
Yes, I have had an interesting week.
So I was driving to work late last week and as I was going up
the hill the engines seemed to be sort of surging a little bit
and I thought it's a bit strange.
And then later on about 15 minutes down the road and I was
highway driving for context, I went to accelerate the engine

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speed built a bit like nothing happened.
And I know it's a CDT, but even for a CDT like nothing happened.
And so took it to my mechanic and just have asked them to sort
of check on it because the otherthing too is that it's quite
what's the temperature gauge is odd in that I can start it from
stone cold and it will instantly, I don't mean build

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up, I mean instantly go from cold to like normal.
And then when I'm driving it candrop to like below cold or just
sit at normal the entire time. It doesn't really seem to know
what it's doing. Like like so, so Jim, just for
just for some con there's like is that as soon as you flip the
car and it goes ping to middle like is that?
Straight away like and it can belike, you know, been raining all

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night, it's dark, it's cold. I haven't touched it in like 24
hours and it will do that. Yeah, it's that, that is weird,
Yeah. And then when I'm driving, it'll
either sit at that or it will drop to quite cold.
And so I say, I said when I wentand I reported the sort of the
weird transmission behaviour andI said can you please check
that? Because in the entire time I've

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owned the car I've never replaced the thermostat and it's
live in the car for 300,000 K soit probably is true.
Anyway later on I got the car back and they said the coolant
was a bit low so I asked does bit low mean dangerously low or
just a bit low and they said oh they're just a bit low.
So they topped it up while I wasdriving home.
I'll be honest, it was a little bit annoying because my mechanic

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is a 3 1/2 hour round trip from my house so that wasn't really
what I've been hoping for anyway.
But then when I got home and then every time.
So since then after a long drivethere's a there's a gurgling
sound that I can hear. So cars getting a compression
test tomorrow and hopefully it'snothing too serious.
I've been a bit sad for long this week but hopefully it's not

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too serious. But you know it is an old cuddle
of case and it so probably is. But I'm trying to hope for the
best anyway. So for yeah, I can relate to
that. When the laser hit 300 it after
a drive it it'd have you pull over and you and you'd open the
bonnet and you'd see in the overflow tank bubbles and it'd
be Googling and having a bit of a fit that was, you know,

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combustion essentially getting into the cooling system and it
turned out to be a head gasket for me.
But that might be the case for you.
It might also be like an air pocket or you know, especially
if it's pinging straight away toyou know, up to temp.
Just a question, when you turn the key but like don't start the
car, does it go straight away tomiddle as well?
No, it's usually a few seconds. OK, OK.

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Yeah. Like 5 to 10 seconds and that
just goes blink and it's like, OK, clearly it's not hot yet,
but whatever, yeah. It would be a 40 gauge.
Could be 40, it could be a bit of a dicky gauge, or it could
be. It could be the, IT could be
the, IT could be the sensor. You know, there's, there's that
possibility to like, you know, water temp sensors aren't known
to last forever. But yeah, I would, yeah.

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Get a leak down test as well if you can, just to see if it's, if
it's, you know, the, the, the pressurizer system and see if
you can hear it coming from anywhere.
I think I would, that'd be something that I would do.
That's what that's what Ratner did for me.
And we quickly found out that itwas the head casket as the
calling system was just like nothaving a good time.

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So yeah, not, not a, not a good thing.
But I, you know, let's, let's just play it by ear and see how
we go tomorrow when you get the car looked up.
Yeah, absolutely. I'll provide an update then,
hopefully not in tears or more things.
Now it it'll be OK and, and as Isaid to you, like we'll talk
about this during the week, kindof trying to like Instagram
diagnose. And, you know, even if it is a

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head gasket, it's, it's a civic like they're, they're pretty
basic engines to work on and youknow, it's head off.
Skim the head, new gaskets, you know, check the bottom end, see
if it's OK, you know, and then, you know, pretty much put it
back together and and then you're off.
Yeah, it's not like you're it's,it's not like it's going to be a
labour intensive like it would be for like an Audi or

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something, you know what I mean?Like that's so, yeah.
So you know, like and, and at the end of the day too, like
it's, it has done a lot of K's. You know, it's permissible.
I think that's acceptable that at that at those K's, you can
have an issue here and there. It's that's.
Because currently it's sitting at. 485-480-8488.

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OK, well no one can say it hasn't given you servicing.
No. Correct.
But there's, as many said, it's it's a relatively simple fix.
Hopefully, yeah. Fingers.
All the fingers and toes. Crossed.
Yes, all the things. Crossed I think I think you'll
be OK, especially if it's not overheating, because if it is,
then the head could be warped depends on how bad the head's

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been warped. You might need a new head or you
know that's worst case that's worst case scenario, but I think
you'll be OK like like with withmy laser didn't overheat.
It just started playing up and not not wasn't running right.
And then got to check them to turn out to be that.
And but the head wasn't porous, so it didn't go soft or
anything. So it's just skim the head and

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you know, and you should be, I think you should be OK.
So yeah, watch, watch this space, Jim.
Anything else in terms of cars? Not necessarily cars, but
wheels. I have had two very odd bicycle
interactions today. One before where it was coming
out of Kohl's and where I was walking out of Kohl's.
It was in line with some shops and it was around school drop

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off time and there was a studentwho was riding, almost touching
the windows. They didn't see me until the
last second, freaked out and then hit a pole.
Only at walking speed, but they did sort of go over.
I asked if they were OK. They were, but they rode off at
such a speed I think they were more embarrassed than heard.
And then the other one was that when I was coming leaving work,

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there was a person on an electric bicycle who was riding
one handed on their phone and overtook me on the wrong side of
the road and stayed there for about 300 metres.
So car, Car Talk, top tip, watchwhere you're going.
I think that's AI think that's AI think that's what we've
established here. It's a.
It's a. Pretty sad.
I mean it, it is. It is semi industrial SE

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Melbourne. So what else should I expect?
Absolutely, Rob. Updates with you.
Ford have called me back. Oh, OK.
Strap, strap, strap. Yourself.
So, Chad, have you spoken to your uncle?
Is this? The reason, yeah, is that why?
I might have had. I might have had something to
do. Wasn't that?
Appreciate it. Unfortunately not.

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Judge. Of the rescue.
So now they were real sympathetic about the whole
circumstance and said look, you know, we'll do everything in
there means to, to fix all the issues with the gearbox and the
DIF and, and if we can't, we'll reimburse your money in full.
Well, they've actually. Said that.
That's what they said. That's.
Incredible promise, yeah. Big promise, but let's see how

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they go. So that was pretty good.
And they called me on a Saturday, believe it or not.
What on a Saturday? They're working on a Saturday.
They're that busy with recalls. Yeah, I'd say.
So yeah, overtime, overtime. Wow, that is unusual.
Look, it's great. I've got the car booked in for
the 18th so I'll drop it off andthey'll give me a loan car until
they sort out what they're goingto do.

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Which which dealership? Epping, Bayford.
Yeah. Yeah, so they said take it back
to the the place that you got itdone last time at, you know, and
we'll go for it. I'll go for it again and go
through the process. So that was that.
And I got some birthday, a birthday present from my son in
law. And this is one of the things

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that he. Did for me, yeah.
He's 30. That's cool, that's cool.
That's great. Yeah, so he's done that and all
hand drawn. He's very talented of it.
He's a star. And he's done this one as well,
so. Oh.
Nice, Oh. That's the Baron Merck.
No, it's not. Oh no, no it's not.

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It's the coup. It's.
The coup. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So he's done that. So that's my birthday present.
So I got that. That's lovely.
I was hoping to go out to that sort of, by the way, it's Emmett
Creations. So yeah.
It's a plug. We'll give him the plug and
it's. Create.
It and it's pencil creations. There you go he's on you can

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find him on insta and email insta there you go so yeah cars
apart from that nothing's progressed on me SCC pretty
disappointed about that we haven't had any other issues
with cars. All the cars are going good,
touch wood and we didn't go to the car show down is the cars

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and culture down St. Kilda on the weekend.
It's supposed to be pretty big. OK, so I missed out on that one
because he ended up going motorcycle riding so, but that's
pretty much it. Yeah, nice, very nice.
Chad, what days for you? So I wasn't on last week.
I don't think I talked about theMercedes before that, did I?
No, no he didn't. So with the help of Edward

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Bunting, we towed the Mercedes to Rob's fainter and that's
currently with him. So the problem was I couldn't
get the car started on the day that So we, so Ed, Ed came to my
house and then we went and picked up a trailer and then
came back. But before that I tried to get

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the car started just like, you know, get it going, sort of get
it ready to move, whatever, pumpthe tyres up and yeah, could it
wouldn't start. It just kept cranking and then
Ed and I realised that it was the fuel pump not priming.
And so yeah, we had just had to push the car onto the trailer,
which was kind of a pain, but the trailer also had a winch.

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So that was good that we could just winch the car onto the
trailer. So we got that done, went and
dropped it off and yeah, and then I went online and purchased
a, what are they called, a fuel pump relay for AW2O one.
So story with that. Specifically purchased one that

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was in Australia on eBay. And.
Lo and behold, it's an international shipper.
They just say like you bastards,like I needed this like even
within two to three days and nowit's I actually got an update
from Australia Post this morning.
So it's it looks like it's in the country.

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So hopefully I'll get it, yeah, by the end of this week.
But. Now, Charles.
Better. Yeah, because your connections
with Australia Post, Can you find out more important?
Can you find more important things or or?
It's one of those things I can'tmeddle in my own affairs within
the company because it's kind oflike a bit frowned upon.
There's been inside a trade yourself in a way.

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Yeah, almost. And I, I did look at it like I
looked at the tracking through my system and I can't see
anything because it's, it's an international 1.
So it's as soon as it hits Australia, then it becomes an
Australia posting. But at that point it hadn't like

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Australia posted received the information from the
international shipper, but it hadn't actually like got to
Australia Post Network yet. So couldn't do anything about it
anyway. But as soon as it's like in a
facility, I might try and go andpick it up somewhere because it
might be faster anyway. So waiting for the part it's
going to go to Rob's painter andhopefully that will fix the

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starting issue and he'll be ableto move the car if, when when
and if he needs. But yeah, as I said, I, I told
did Rob take as long as you need, start on the SEC 1st.
And mine is not a priority. And yeah, but I just wanted to
get the car. I wanted to give him the car
that was, you know, running and so he could, like, move it if he

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needed to. But yeah, he he said, yeah, it's
all good. And that was it.
Yeah. Ed and I returned the trailer
and, you know, thanked him a lot.
All that's good stuff. And yeah.
So that's at the painter now that's going to get a coat of

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bull bear back, bear back to bare metal and epoxy primer on
and and then I'll think about the paint stage after that.
So nice. We'll see how.
That colour do. You know, yeah, I believe so,
yeah. I think it is either signal red

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or some some other, I don't know.
Yeah, I haven't. I haven't really.
Doubted it. Something hot.
Rot would be the red in German. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So yeah, I'll think about the paint.
I might even go towards a liverystyle thing instead of a paint
job. I might go full take care job

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maybe on it. We'll see.
I'm still still deciding on it and trying to weigh up like the
cost and the, you know, how how much work it'll be.
I still think eighties 80s DTM livery would be epic.
It's definitely on the cards because I'm trying to come up
with something kind of cool for it.
So it might be an inspiration ofDTM with something else.

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We'll say. I don't know, I'm trying to play
around with some stuff in my head.
So. So yeah, that is the Merc.
Yeah, we can do some photoshopping, Chad.
Photoshopping I know a guy I. Know a guy?
I know a guy so that's the Merc Magna I played on the weekend a
little bit with I so it's got plastic bumpers and all that.

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So I pulled the I I got a there was a couple of like real deep
cave in, like the corners, you know, Camry style that type of
caved in bumper. So I Camry esque, that's
correct. So I, I chucked a heat gun on it
and just left it there for like 10 minutes.
So I got really nice and warm and then I got under there with

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a hammer and just hammered them out.
So then they're fairly like 90% straight.
They look there, you can tell someone's hammered them out, but
it's better than it being caved in, I suppose.
So I got that out of the way. What else did I do?
I checked some of the suspensionbits it it's going to need like
at least a front set of shops and because I like looked inside

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one like the left hand front shock and I saw half of a bump
stop just dangling there. I was like, all right, well,
that one definitely needs to be done.
Yeah, the bump stop. I can recommend a guy for the
shockers. Oh yeah, cool.
Oh yeah, I'd love to hear about that.
Yeah, I think David and I know that guy quite well.

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Oh, yeah, OK, I also know him then.
Yeah. Sweet.
So I'll, I'm going to sort that out.
I've got a couple of bits, I think some of the like tie rod
ends or not tie rod ends, but what are they called the the
sway bar links and all that stuff.
That's very cool, Rob. That's super cool.
I've got, I've got my little 198here as well.

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It's a blue one. Nice.
Yeah. So probably a couple of
suspension bits and pieces for the Magna and hopefully that'll
be all it needs for roadie. But I'll speak to it after I get
back from my overseas trip that I'll I'll put it into a
roadworthy joint and see what they reckon.
So just question, your first point of call overseas,

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obviously when you go into Turkey is you're going to go
speak to your uncle at Ford, right?
Yes, I'm going straight to the Ford manufacturing plant,
wherever they make those dips. And I'm gonna, and I'm gonna
slam my fist down on the counterand say I want to talk to the
guy in charge and then offer hima kebab.
Obviously 'cause that's. How you do?
This over there and yeah, so. And so you need a currency over

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there. It's definitely is.
The bodek. You know the pastry.
Yeah, yeah, just slam it on the,slam it on the counter.
And then we'll know if Chad's like, been successful or not
because if he's successful, he'll come back with like, you
know, fake hair and, and like orange skin, teeth.

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Perfect. Teeth.
I've got Scotty's hairline which.
Is like perfect. Basically, yeah, that'll be
good. Busy, yeah.
So yeah, very excited for my trip.
That's the other part of the. I guess I haven't been doing
much else because I've just beengetting ready for going

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overseas. So yeah, that's pretty much all
the updates from me. Well.
We're going to miss you for a few weeks, Chad.
You know this. Yeah, but we'll we'll keep in
touch as we always do. I could potentially try and jump
on online because it'll be around 1:00 PM there.
Oh yeah. Or like 12:00 PM or something.

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Yeah, I might, I might try and Imight try and do a a overseas
special, Yeah. So what?
We can have a Turkish correspondent, Chad.
Yes, and I will report on all things weird Turkish cars.
Transit production line Transit.Ridiculous.
Reporting from the Ford production line too.

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They might do tours. You could go on a tour, I know.
Try. And look into it.
I'll definitely be in Istanbul, so yeah.
And you'll be like this is my Uncle Tarabi.
This is my uncle this. And he's he's the one that he's
the one that did your diff, Rob.I apologise, Rob, I apologise.
I just want to know if they knowwhat doll indicators are and all
that sort of stuff. But apparently my mate was

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saying when they put these diffstogether they got like the
actual bearings are like a single.
One time you can press bearing. Yeah.
So they're crushed bearings. So if you don't talk them down
properly or something like that,they just don't, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, David Prince asked. When you head off, I head off on

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Saturday night. So yeah, I've got three weeks
off from Saturday. That's.
Fantastic. Yeah.
Nice and warm, still will be hotthere.
Oh yeah, probably. It's scorching.
It's like somewhere in Turkey. It was 50° last week.
Wow. It's crazy.
Like 50° like on the ground. And yeah, it looks pretty wild.

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But I think where where we're going to be is going to be OK.
Like it's going to be super, super.
It's going to be hot. It's Turkey's hot.
So yeah, opposite. We'll have to keep in contact
when you're over this. Yes, Chad.
Yeah, definitely. You'll you'll definitely get,
you're getting a lot of photos of cars.
Oh yeah, he's very Turkey's got some doozies.

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Yeah, they're great stuff. They got some interesting stuff
there. Did they build?
The Hillman Hunter for like 100 years.
Yeah, Yeah, they did. Yeah, yeah, because that was
part of the the the Fiat Tofas. Yes.
Brand, I think, yeah. Awesome.
Yeah. Go for a swim in the Black Sea
there. Beautiful.
Yeah, absolutely. Now awesome, keen to see all the

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weirdo on the stuff because because they got all the
European stuff and they got a lot of like just weird, weird
stuff to write like so. So that'll be really, really
cool. Yeah, absolutely.
Scotty Doe Johnson, how are you,my friend?
Yeah, doing well, doing well, getting back into things.
Car update, not much again. I wanted to take the Skyline for

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a bit of a spin on the weekend, but I hurt my I hurt my back.
But it ended up not being the back itself.
It was more the tendons and thaton your hamstring connected to
your butt muscle. It was more that one and I
couldn't press down on the clutch.
Yeah, that's an issue. Go back.

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Go back to auto. Oh no.
Please no. No 7.
Years. No, seven years.
Yeah. I've been to my osteo on that
and I'm all good now. So that's what was happening
during the week and yeah, a little bit on the weekend.
It was still pretty sore but I'mall good now.

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So just been chipping away to get that shed done.
Once I got the shed done then that leads to putting stuff in
the shed which means the skylinecan come over here.
Is it a big shed or is it just alike 3-3 by three shed, 6 by?
You've got to tell us a bit moreabout the shed.

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Yeah, Rob's a shed man. He's a shed man.
It's a 3 by 2.2. OK.
So it's right size, it'll fit all the gardening crap that
we've got that needs to move outof the garage.
And if I put some shelving, I'llbe able to hang and move quite a
lot and stack all the school stuff that are in big tubs so I

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can move all that out of the wayas well.
Honey, we've got a three by three shed in the backyard full
of plastic tubs of school stuff.Too.
Strange. It's a it's a weirdo being a
teacher. Much of it's mine either.
So, so you've got the Rob Sheds approval.

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Not that great to put together though being annoying.
Actually, I'll need to come around and give you a hand and
I'll pick up that model too. How's that?
Oh yeah, it's a model too. Yeah, it's a it's, it's meant to
be an easy shed. Yeah, right.
It's where it comes. Easily.

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It just uses these annoying techscrews that go into it and.
I've got the little tech screw thing ratchet gun so goes
pretty. Quick and just because you go on
through very thin bits of sheet metal, it just starts to bend
and stuff like that. So yeah, Dad's been coming over
a couple of times and that to help out too, so when he can,
it's just fiddly. Scotty, I'm just.

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I'm just. I'm just picturing you looking
at, you know, like the the picture of the shed.
That's a nice looking shed. Why doesn't my shed look like
that? Like that episode of The
Simpsons with the BBQ? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The grill. What the hell is?
That no, we got, yeah, all the all the panels all done.

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The next step is to sit it all up and then connect it all.
Yeah. So that's going to be the last
bit. Just make sure you get the doors
the right, the doors the right way around you always.
I got mine mixed up and something's not right.
They don't line. Yeah, it was.
Yeah. Because yeah, ours is also a
double, double door 1. And we're just looking at the

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hinges and I'm like, jeez, I hope we got the hinges right.
So it'll be a pain in the ass because they're the only things
that were like pot riveted in. Everything else is screwed.
Like jeez, I hope those hinges work and I told dad I go.
If they don't, I'm just lobbing it straight over the fence to
them. Beside me I'll.
Start again. Can I go over the fence?

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Did did you do the slab yourself?
Couldn't do the a slab so it's pavers.
Big concrete pavers. Yeah, that OK.
Yeah, because it's on an an easement or something.
You can't have a fixed, fixed structure there.
But you can have pavers and stuffs.
It's in the corner. I've got big thick cement pavers
that we got from from Bunnings, so I've got those.

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And then once that's in, there'sthis nice kind of rubber matting
you can get from Bunnings too that I put down there and just
lay down on the floor and that'sit.
And then have everything in there and hopefully, hopefully
two cars should fit in. So we're going to thin a proxy
the floor in the garage and the the lights, LED lights.

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And I I need some decent lighting.
It's just one crappy light in there.
I need something a bit better. Yeah.
Likely. I know I'm an electrician so
that'll come in handy. I invited him to the wedding so
it could be the wedding present.I need some new PowerPoints and
I need this. And.

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I need the data points PowerPoints.
Yeah, the. Office is going to go now.
It's funny because when I was getting the garage, getting the
house done, you know, they askedyou what lights you want, where
you want, your PowerPoints and all that kind of stuff, and they
asked about the light in the garage, Did you want a Batten 1

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or whatever? And I said just just a normal
one would be fine. No, it throws off like light for
you to see, but there's so much shadow the shadow just kills it
and you can't see anything. Like if you want to work on a
car, you've got no hope. There's just that much shadow
happening, you can't see a thing.

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Costco Costco have some real nice 4 foot LED RGB ones that
change colour and everything anddifferent brightness as well.
They're about 9080 or $90.00. Each.
Oh, wow, that's pretty good. Yeah.
So that's good to know. Bad value.
Yeah, definitely. Rob's discounts.
Costco discounts, not Rob. What's exciting time, Scotty?

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I'll have to invite you guys allover and you can have a crack on
the SIM that I've got here. Yeah, absolutely.
Race around. I've got.
Have you got grand truths, mate?I've got grand tuition on the
PlayStation, but for the PC it'sAceto Corsa with all the mods
you could ever think of with anycar that you want on any track

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that you want or if you want to.If you're missing Japan, you can
cruise the whole highway system of Japan if you want.
That's. Brilliant with.
Traffic in any car you want withmanual transmission and clutch
everything. I'm going to take you up on that
office, Scotty. I think that's that's it's.
Almost like being in Japan. Almost.

(28:33):
Almost as. You can get at the moment, Yep.
But yeah. And if I don't, if I don't have
the car, I can download it in notime and search and download it
and you can have that car. That's brilliant.
Good. So good.
David Prince. Well, I had quite a week car

(28:57):
wise. It's been been a great week
actually. So last Wednesday I headed out
to Tullamarine. There's a, a place out there, I
think it's called MPs that look after the press fleets through
all manufacturers, the like Tullamarine Park Road and I
picked up an FL 5 Type R, which Honda Australia were nice enough

(29:19):
to lend me for the week, which was spectacularly good.
I do quite a bit for them sort of behind the scenes with their
sort of history sort of stuff and archive of information that
they threw away basically that, that I can't you guys, most of
you guys that see my garage thatyou know, that I can't throw

(29:40):
anything away, especially if it's got a Honda badge on it.
Yeah, but I, I put about four, about between 4 and 500 KS on it
over the course of the week. Dropped it back very reluctantly
today. I was about to say, did you
return it? Well, I did send her a message
on the day afternoon I picked itup to parked outside our house

(30:01):
at the sky and the sun. You know, it was a great shot if
I say something myself. And yeah, I said I don't know
that you'll be getting this one back.
And you know, no one's going to be surprised by the fact that I
I liked it because it was a Honda, But it's freakingly, I
was trying to think of the rightway to describe it, but it's

(30:24):
probably the best car I've had in my driveway and lived with in
all the cars I've driven. It's they're just incredible
things. Maddie.
Well, you, you well know you've got family.
Absolutely. I, it's, I've said, I think I've
said on the show, it's probably the best car I've ever driven.
Like genuinely like in terms of what it offers performance wise.

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And it's just, it feels like it was designed by people who care
about driving. Yeah, and that and and that's
what that car is. And it's like, you know, unless
I become a millionaire, I'm not going to be able to afford a
Porsche GT3 Rs. But this is pretty much as close
as you're going to get in terms of, you know, for under 100

(31:07):
grand. It's.
On that, I mean when they came out so many Rd tests that I
looked at and and and consumed started off with you know how
Honda think they can charge 70,000.
Dollars for a city because it's just outright.
You know, went, went, went, went, went, went, went, went,
went, on and on and on. And then pretty much all of them

(31:28):
by the last paragraph going actually it's really good value
because of what you get. It's like it's like 3 or 4 cars
in one. I mean, that car was as happy
doing a run to Bunnings as an early morning blast across the
Black Spur. You know, like it was the most
involving, exhilarating car to drive.

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Take key takeaways. I won't bore you silly with it
because I could talk all night about it.
It made you feel like you're a good driver #1 and I think
that's a sign of a really good car.
It made me, made, made me feel young again.
That's pretty, pretty impressivefor a car.
You know, I there was a trouble in my life where if Type Rs,

(32:13):
particularly the FN 2 springs tomind.
I just thought, you know what, Ithink I'm past that stage of my
life. You know, this is just a bit too
harsh and a bit too rivy and a bit too wait, wait, wait.
Not so the FL 5. My goodness, it's an incredible
thing. So.
It, it's that card, David Prince.
It for me, it's, it's actually amasterpiece for what it can do

(32:33):
like the chassis dynamics, the ride, the, the compromise
between the different levels in the state sports modes and R
Plus and all that. And that kind of in the
individual mode was brilliant because you can, you can
customise everything, but with the soft suspension and, and,
and, you know, and the, the, theseats are incredible.
The gearbox is great. It, it, it, it auto matches

(32:56):
right, You know, on the down on,you know, on, on, on the
downshift. And it's as a, as a driving
tool. It is one of the 8 wonders of
the, of the car world. Like it, it, it really is in
terms of, you know, if you got to put like your supercar, your
front wheel drive car, your realdrive, like, that'd be the front
wheel drive car benchmark. And every time I've driven my

(33:18):
mum's one, I'm just like, God, this thing's good.
Like it's just, it just does everything well, it doesn't feel
like it's too highly strung. It doesn't feel like you're
having to Rev the nuts off it toget it to go anywhere.
It doesn't feel, it doesn't feelfragile.
It feels, well, engineered. And that for me is a sign of a
of a good car. And and I can't speak highly

(33:39):
enough of NFL Five. Yeah, all the touch points are
good. You know how it makes you feel.
Oh that Alcantara wheel epic. Amazing in your hands.
Epic. Yeah.
It's, it's, it's a, it's a very special car and it's, I think
for those of you who actually have one, it's a, it's
definitely a sense of occasion car.

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Like absolutely it is like but. Every drive every drive is is a
delighted it's it's every every time I started the engine, I
thought, wow, this is something very cool downsides won't fit in
my garage. I tried to get back reverse it
down my my driveway, which is tight to the caddy because I
live in a house built in the 50sand the chimneys very close to

(34:21):
the fence. So luckily all my Hondas go go
down really easily, except for this thing.
I wasn't going to try and get it.
I I don't think it would have fitted.
I I reversed it down as as closeas I could.
The sensors were going nuts the closer I got to got to it.
And yeah, so it's it is a wide car.
And then of course the type has wider again with the body flares

(34:43):
and the and the like. So yeah, the cheeky photos.
I was going to take it in my garage.
They they don't exist because I couldn't get it in the garage.
My beautiful wife's takeaway wasfrom it doesn't have heated
seats like she just can't havinghad seated heated seats in the
car. She cannot understand the logic
of not having heated seats in the car like that.
Mind you, the grippy bright icy ring red Alcantara, I don't

(35:08):
think he really needed them because it was like sleeping
with flat lit bed sheets. You know, it's so warm and.
It's funny to answer that when Iwas speaking to Kath about that
car, she's like, it doesn't haveheated seats.
Like, like, like you. You and my mom both said the
same thing about the bloody heated seats.
Yeah, yeah. I must find out if the update
because there's an update comingout, you know, this month.

(35:30):
OK, very, very minor upgrade, but luckily it includes racing
blue. Now you can order it in racing
blue, which is stunning colour on them.
Yeah. So that that they were the only
two things that that were wrong.And and hey, I'd buy another
house if it meant that I could get a Type R.
So we'll watch this space. I need something, yeah.

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Having said that, the N1RS has heated seats and it's a 6 speed
manual and it fits down my driveway so.
Basically a typo. It's basically a typo.
Well, it's got a typo benches onit, so it must be.
It must be basically a typo. Well, I was telling Kath David
yesterday when I saw her, you know, she's like, I can't
believe it's that expensive and doesn't have a body.

(36:13):
So I'm like, my mom said the same thing because my mom, my
mom's like your fiesta's less than half the price of this
bloody thing. And it comes with a heated
seats. How does that make sense?
She's like, it's even got a heated stereo.
Where's my heated stereo? Yeah.
And she's and I had to, I'd say mom, It's it's pretty much a
race car though. You don't.
Race cars don't need that stuff.That's right, you don't need

(36:34):
hidden seats in a race car. Reduces weight.
So that was that was fantastic. I loved everything about it.
Even though even when I returnedit back to the place today, the
guy said to me, the, the guy behind the camera said, oh, what
did you think? I said, oh, I said I bloody love
it. I said it's really hard to drop
it back. He said.
He said we get a lot of car through cars through here and he

(36:55):
said that is the stand out car for me of all the cars we get
from every manufacturer to loan out to press from press
assignments and stuff. He said they and I thought,
well, OK, it's not just me. It's it's lots of people.
I think you get behind the wheelof 1 and if you're lucky enough
to get the chance to live with one even for, you know, a few
days, Yeah, very impressive. Also impressive during.

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My week. Special car.
Also impressive during my week was we finally unearthed the pre
the 88 Accord SI from my neighbour's garage.
I enlisted the help of a couple of people and pushed it.
This is the one that's done 97,000 KS from new but has not
been started in 20 nearly 25 years.

(37:36):
So we pushed it out of our neighbour's garage across the
street into my driveway where it's now going to live for a
little while. And chatting.
Maddie saw it last night. It's it's a pretty lovely old
example. Bloody hell.
Like Chad, when we saw that car,it was like.
Impressive. It's more than impressive,

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David, it's it's spectacular. I think there were 7 sheets
lying on top of it, you know, protected from the, from the
dust and the like and the interiors smell.
It still smells like an 80s Honda.
It it's completely original. Yeah.
And after you guys left, my mateMalcolm came over and we, he, he

(38:17):
went over a bit more with a mechanical eye than me.
We freed up the butterfly that was just wouldn't move at all.
The they actually throttle pedalwouldn't move at all because it
was all going up. But we got that, that active and
moving sort of drain plug in thebottom of the fuel tank.
So we don't take the fuel tank out.
So we'll drain that off and put some nice fresh petrol in it,

(38:38):
clean the injectors, make sure it still turns, which it should.
It's still got plenty of oil. Yeah.
So hopefully that will come goodpretty soon.
That's exciting. Another project, just what we
need. Would recommend to try and like
disconnect one of the fuel linesfrom the tank and just and once
you get once you've clear out the the old fuel and put new

(39:00):
fuel in it, just to like empty out the fuel that's in the
lines. Yes, just just by just by
triggering the fuel pump just topush some of it out.
Yeah, that would be a good startbefore it gets to the rail and
back into the tank and all the sure yeah.
So. Yeah, so it's a bit like a
reawakening. We've got to gently reawaken it
to get it back and running and reliable.

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That's the thing. Then then we've got to drive it
and hopefully all the seals won't decide.
Oh, so you want me to seal the engine?
That's and there'll be a bit of that I'm sure, but hopefully we
can minimise that. I think I mentioned this mate of
mine went on Rock Auto and, and made up a shopping list of
things that he potentially couldneed.
And it's less than $300.00 for pretty much every consumable

(39:44):
thing in gasket and that that you need.
So timing bill, water pump, all those sorts of things because
they, they sold so many of them over there.
I mean their their spare parts are pretty cheap so.
They they really love them over there.
Don't they like those old Honda?They're they're like America's
probably would you say outside of Japan, their biggest, their
biggest market. Oh, correct.

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Yes, 100%. It had been for many, many
years. Yes.
Yeah. So interestingly, that CA
Accord, which this is the pop upheadlight third Gen Accord,
people have long crowed about the fact that it was the first
the first Japanese car designed outside America and exported
back to Japan because in Americathey actually designed a 2 door

(40:30):
coupe with a boot because Honda Honda in Japan produced the
sedan and the Hatch. But yeah, Americans like their 2
door coups with a boot and that.But interestingly, in the last
12 months I have debunked that theory.
I think it was actually the second car designed out Japanese

(40:51):
car designed outside of Japan and exported back to Japan.
The first being the TN Mitsubishi Magna station waggon.
So that's an argument I'll have to have with someone from Honda
America one day, but I'm up for it.
He'd be like, why aren't you 100, guy?
I am. But I'm a man.
I'm a man of the truth. I'm a man of the.

(41:11):
Truth. Yeah, that's correct.
That's correct. And if the if the Aussies can do
it well, can pick them at the post, that would be brilliant.
Yeah, it would be funny. That's brilliant.
So that's about me for the this week.
What about you, Maddie? Not much my friend at work.
She's a lovely lady Trish. Big shout out to you, she made
me these. Her and her daughter put these
together, so dropping them all. But you probably have seen
online these these little garages and you put your key on

(41:34):
there and it gives up and you put like a little Hot Wheels car
in there depending on the car. So this is one for the Forester.
It's in blue. So I got I got a little Forester
model to put in there. She may be one for the Camry
with the, with the black striperin in there around it.
So that's, that's, that's like that.
This one's for my mom for the XR8 with the with the little red

(41:55):
stripe around it. Got one up there, yellow for the
scamp, similar for the typhoon, green for the Fiesta and black
at the bottom for the laser. So you know, it's, it's a yeah,
it's a cool little gift. I was very happy and was very
thankful because that's that's kind of cool.
So I will be putting them to useat some point.
Updates with me, what have I done?
I've had a busy weekend. Went to the snow, took the

(42:17):
forester U to the snow. Geez, it flies in cold weather
like that car, like at 0° on theboost.
It just, it sounds like it's gotan extra, you know, million
horsepower and it just, it just rips like it ripped through even
stuff was like this. Still, it feels a lot faster.
So yeah, that it went really, really well.
That was fine. It's a great snow car, great dog

(42:37):
car, all the above. So to all the lesbian soccer
mums out there, great car. Then yesterday picked up the
Toyota Camry. So thank you, David Prince, I
want to thank you, first of all.So you went there, down there
and paid, paid for it for me because I wouldn't have wouldn't
have been able to get there before they shut.
He picked up the key. I picked up the key off him.
Chad, thank you. And I missed the help of Chad to

(43:00):
give me a lift down there. He was.
I think he was just as excited as I was just to see the car.
I've been bugging you for weeks.Oh dude, where's the car ready?
Yeah. So we head down, we headed down
there in the in the lovely I-30 Amsterdam.
That's a that is a cool car. Like I it's, it's, it's, if you
want an FL 5, but like don't want to spend exorbitant amounts

(43:23):
of money for the FL 5. You know, the I-30 and sedan,
I'm going to say it is 99% of the car, but it's, it's a big,
it's a it's, it's a big call, but I think it's a fair call.
It's it does everything that the, that the type I can do.
Yes, it's not as powerful. Yes, it's probably not as in
terms of driving refined, but comes with a lot more kit and

(43:45):
you know, heated seats. Yep, and I ran around.
No, and cooled. And cooled and cooled.
Wow. And I ran away.
Just another thing to break. Yeah, but but I ran a race track
there's there's really not much in between that and the Type R
So I think, yeah, I think it's Ithink Hyundai have absolutely
nailed that car. So we got to David's and then we

(44:08):
saw that lovely Accord and then we went and picked up the Camry
and here we start and driving it, it felt so much better than
the first time I drove it. It felt actually, you know, it
felt a lot more cohesive. I've got a list of things I need
to do to to the car. So I went and ordered my parts

(44:29):
today. So it needs for pretty much for
a Rotary needs needs a windshield.
So if you guys know any windshield people, let me know.
Front of our engine mounts timing case leak, but I want to
see if I can clean that up and see how I go.
We're going to cover gaskets. I've ordered.
What else did I order? Some some bushes, front brake
lines because they're starting to crack and I said I need to

(44:54):
order. There's a couple of a couple of
just little things. So but it but it wasn't bad like
it wasn't a bad list. Anyway, driving on driving at
home. Chad followed and smooth little
way home, gave it a boot full and saw all the brown rust come
out of the exhaust and it was like pelting cars.
I was like, Oh no, poor Chad's cars behind me.
But then I did it on the freewaytoday and I gave it a few.

(45:16):
I gave it a few, you know, hits to get it to clean it out and it
seemed to have cleared it a lot more.
I guess when it casts out for solong, you know, that's a type of
things you expect. But I dropped that off my my
mom's be in the driveway and I'mgoing to book that in for next
week once I get all those parts in to get it kind of sorted and

(45:37):
start chipping away bits and pieces and hopefully get that on
the road soon. But yeah, it just it just
flooded back like all the times I remember driving it.
And here's a good thing about it.
The more I drove it, the better it got.
Like it was like it was it felt like the car was waking up.
Yes, the transmission was a bit jumpy because the engine mounts
are completely shot, but you know, it just felt like it was

(46:00):
it felt like a car that was waking from its slumber.
It felt like it was, you know, everything was just, you know,
starting to to to really get in to get and on the freeway it was
it was flying and I I gave it a beautiful from from a from a set
of lights and I'm like, oh, like, you know, and the car just
started it. It feels like you wanted to Rev
and it started to it was actually kicking down in the
transmission. Now I was like, oh, it wasn't
doing this the first time I drive it, it was really not

(46:22):
happy. But this time it was just like
perfect it. I couldn't I couldn't get over
how how good it drove from the last time I drove it.
I took it to work today because I was like, well, I don't have
time to drop it off to my mom. So I took it to work, parked in
the work car park and then dropped it home afterwards.
And a few people at work are like, this is actually kind of a
cool car. So, so that it was good, but

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Chad was I think Chad, you were you, you loved it.
You, you were, you were really impressed.
And David, you drove it yesterday too, so.
I did. I did.
It was great. It's really impressive.
Like it's really, it's a really good neck and the interior is
like nearly Immaculate. It's just like so nice and it's
got a lot of, it's got a lot going for it for sure.

(47:07):
I've driven a few V enters and stuff like that with the three
litre beats. There are three litre yeah, that
is the 2.5 earlier tech, earlierengine, so that's 90.
So what's that? 35 years ago that is there's
such a a smoothness to those Toyota V sixes.
It's just so refined. My SV 21 yeah, it was just a the

(47:29):
two litre twin Cam which was wasa great engine, but the yeah the
V6 was next level. Yeah, it, it was like, it was
remarkably, it's still remarkably smooth Despite that
the engine mounts were, were notgreat.
You know, like you'd only feel the engine mounts really badly
when it'd change a gear because the, you know, the the whole
engine would rock. But you know, on the freeway

(47:52):
sitting at 100 with the cruise control working and everything,
it's just like, oh, this feels great.
Like it felt like it was meant to do it.
So that was a really nice drive home actually yesterday, even
though it was crappy traffic andI thought the police were going
to pull me over, but that was a really nice drive.
I was just, I couldn't, I couldn't, I couldn't get the

(48:14):
smile off my face because it just reminded me of when I was a
kid. You know, it even smells a.
Simple time. Some would say a better time.
But. It just reminded me, like even
it smelled like the, the cars, you know, like our camera as a
kid, like it had that same smell, you know, and it's funny
how like, you know, as humans, we can put smells and, and
things to like, you know, connect with, connect with cars

(48:36):
and connect with things. And like, I remember opening the
door, like when I first looked at the car, like this is this is
my childhood. This, this smells, this smells
like childhood. So even down to the the oil
burning off the exhaust from therocker cover gaskets, that was
that was that was. That's a built in feature.
It's a built in, it's a safety feature, as David Prince would

(48:57):
say, safety feature. No, it was great.
Like I just, I couldn't get the smell off my face.
The the tips look fantastic on it.
Like they they just they just finished it off on the exhaust.
So yeah, I was really, really happy.
Yeah. Now, now it's just the like I
said, I've ordered the parts. I'm just going to start chipping
away at it now. I'll probably give it a clean on

(49:19):
the weekend, give it a nice clean and then start, you know,
start the process of, you know, putting it together essentially
and and getting it going. But wanted to thank you guys a
lot. Thank you, Jim, for the first.
You know, saving me back at the would have broke down that the
first time and so and all the above.

(49:39):
But yeah, thank you to all you guys for making it possible
because now it's now it's official, you know, it's, it's,
it's actually happening now. So really, really excited to see
to see the to see the finished product.
And yeah, but I'm not going to rush on it.
I'm just going to chip away at it and get it done and, you

(49:59):
know, gradually just start driving it and and really
enjoying it. I reckon it would look great
with car torque lever on it personally.
The the the whole, the whole side of the car, just just just
with the. Giant sticker.
Giant sticker. But yeah, look, I'm, I'm really
excited to just drive them. Well, I've put over 100 KS in it
in, in like a day, you know, driving it, driving it back and

(50:22):
on the freeway today and to my mom's.
So yeah, it was yeah, 100 KS solid.
Felt felt really good. But anyway, moving on to
tonight's topic, gentlemen. Now we've we continued last week
from the week before asking questions.
We're going to finish that section with the 2000s and the
20 tens our car selections from then.

(50:43):
Let's go with the 2000s. Now the 2000s were an
interesting time. I think cars in the 2000s really
shaped, you know, how we got cars say like if you look at
cars in from the early 2000s to the late 2000s, yeah, let's say
let's 2009, 2010 cars really haven't changed much from 2010
to how they are now in terms of I think styling.

(51:06):
I think they've kind of kind of plateaued.
Like I mean obviously that they they look a lot more modern with
different lights and stuff, but like in terms of design and and
aspects, I don't think there's much there has been much
changed. But having said that, I still
think the 2000 has some really, really, you know, classy and,
and well aged cars like A and I know David Prince will disagree

(51:26):
with me here, but I think that the Bengal era cars have
slightly aged better than than Iwould have thought at the time.
And I would, I would have an A60now, I think they're a good
looking car now. I think they've aged out of all
these cars that they're the onesthat that's the one that's aged
best. But what is your pick of the
2000 now? Now, Rob, we kind of touched on
this a few weeks ago, but like we didn't fully explore it.

(51:47):
And you, you said XL6 turbo would, would you stand by that,
by by that or would you have thought of something different
in the 2000s? No, it's still.
Stand by it. And that's it.
That's it. Let's go, it's over with.
Let's go, let's move on. 2010 FGX Turbo.

(52:09):
He's just continuing. He's just continuing the six
silver turbo thing from 6 silverthing from last week.
But yeah, so you so your XL6 turbo, like you're talking BB
series XL6 turbo. It was a it was a game changing
car for Australia. It was a game changing car for
performance sedans. Actually, you know, it's a
$45,000 car that was, you know, quicker than the V eights and,

(52:30):
you know, arguably more tunable and had, you know, had a bit of
a cult following. I think that's a great and I
think I still think B series Fords have aged really nicely.
I think they're a good design, which is funny because it was
based off the AU design, which is, you know, which a lot of
people don't really don't realise because they did such a

(52:50):
good job of hiding it. But the basic architecture was
AU. But they've, you know, they made
them a very handsome vehicle. And I think I'm with you on that
one. I think that's a great choice.
But you, Chad, what's your pick from the 2000s?
I think I had to think about it a couple of weekend weeks ago as
well when we talked about it initially.
But I can't go past the era of like when Honda released the

(53:15):
Accord Euro, the CL7 and then CL9.
But see, that was the Type R andwhatnot.
But yeah, the the CL set, yeah, the Euro R is kind of just
sorry, the Accord Euro is quintessentially, I think for me
the the car of the 2000s, just because it was like the perfect

(53:38):
size. The looks still look good today.
Like the, the design language ofit still looks great, but it's
aged amazingly well. And I think it's one of those
cars that can just do it all. Like it's the one car that you
could have potentially for the rest of your car ownership life
and be able to do everything youwant.

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I mean, you know, not obviously whole a lot of stuff, but like
it'll hold a family, it'll fit alot in the boot and it'll just
keep going. And I think Honda just really
smashes it out of the park. Absolutely. 2000s There's a few
floating around in my head. I'll narrow it down to probably

(54:19):
the C63 AMG. 284. Yep, when it first came out.
Looks nice. I like the look of that C Class
and you can't beat that V8 to handbuilt thing.
Sounded insane so that is my pick.

(54:39):
Yeah. I think that's, I think that's a
great. I think that's a great, I think
that's a great choice. Well, again, I I think I got
the, I got the brief wrong a little bit, I think.
And I did this last week too. I've just found the list that I
I've written last week and I'm interested to see for the 2000s,
one of the most significant carsI put down was the Prius.
Yeah, I mean, that was that was a daggy sort of, you know,

(55:02):
attempt, but my goodness, it really revolutionised the way
the world saw hybrid cars. Really that I'd like, I should
have Googled it. I haven't yet, but how many
Priuses there have actually soldinternationally?
But yeah, I mean, hands down runaway hybrid success of the
last 20 years. It's a game changing car.

(55:24):
The Prius isn't. It well, it was, I think it, of
course there was downsides. It there was actually a syndrome
in America called death by Priusbecause people couldn't hear it
coming getting run over that that wasn't ideal.
But but yeah, I think I think Toyota being Toyota of course
brought reliability to somethingthat a lot of people were

(55:45):
probably a bit maybe a bit circumspect or or a bit
concerned might not be a reliable long term thing.
We've I've got we've got a friend who who who had had one
from new. The car is pretty munted.
It's lived outside. He cannot drive to can't park a
car to save himself. But he's just had a new battery

(56:07):
installed at 270,000 KS I think because he said, well, it's he's
he's in his 80s now and he said this it's been the best car I've
ever owned. I think a new battery was two
and a half, $1000. And he said, well, lot less than
buying a new car. So he's a new battery put in and
yeah, he's just gonna keep driving it.

(56:29):
Nothing is an episode on it. Yeah, true.
On the hybrid. That's a good episode.
So popular. It's an important car.
Like it's for me though. Do you guys get the feeling that
like there was cars pre Prius and post Prius, like it was a it
was a car. It was a car that like

(56:49):
transcended a bit of time because when it came out, people
like, you know, I don't know about this, but it's still the
test of time. And now everything's virtually a
hybrid or electric car. So it's it was, it was actually
a trendsetter before you knew what you knew what actually was.
And I mean, you know, it had celebrity endorsements like, you
know, I think Brad Pitt and, andall those people bought them and
Angelina Jolie, I think bought 1:00 and all these people.

(57:10):
But yeah, it was a it's, it was,you know, and as weird as it is
to say, it's kind of a a class as car like you, like you, you,
you do you. It's hard to believe a Prince is
a class as car, but you know, people from all walks of life
and you know, rich, poor, they all went and bought Priuses
because inventicom was saving the world.
But you know, it was a it was a it was a mind boggling thing

(57:31):
when they when they first came out.
So yeah, it's an important. It was a similarity to the mini,
of course, and, and when it was released.
And, and even as I said last week, the the first civic in the
early mid 70s, classless is a good word.
It was a bit different in that that they weren't known for
their cuteness. It was, it was known for, you
know, the a lot of the environmentally minded people
thinking about doing the right thing.

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But the, the argument with a lotof current electric cars is that
they're not going to last very long.
But that can't be levelled at the original Prius.
It's it's not unusual to see them on the road. 25 years old.
Yeah. They're still, they're still
playing around. No, I think that I think that's
a great choice, Scotty. I think your choice is great too
with the C63W2O four. I think that car in particular

(58:13):
that kind of was like AMG's comeback car, like like a
proper, you know, this is what we can do when we actually try
in a, in a good chassis, you know, and it actually genuinely
a good car. So, and that engine's just a
masterpiece. And, you know, and Chad, you
know, the, the Accord Euro, likethe first year Accord Euro is
just, you know, it's still, I think it's, I think it's aged

(58:34):
better than the, than the, the, the its successor.
And it's yeah, absolutely. And I think I think it could
pass as a more modern car if youdidn't look at the inside, you
know what I mean? Because it's, it is, you know, a
really good looking car. So, so, so we've got really
good, I think we've chosen some really handsome designs, you

(58:55):
know, B series Falcon Exosix Turbo, you know, we've got the
first Gen Accord Euro, you know,2O4C63 and the Prius is it
wasn't really a they're not shouty cars.
They're kind of they're kind of aged really nicely.
Jim, are you going to continue this theme where you're going to
go completely something left field?

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A little bit just quickly, I I do completely agree with the
according to your XO 6 turbo, while the inner child of me will
be fuming, I would also extend that to the territory, I think.
Yeah, quite significant here, I think.
But what I'll actually put, which is very mass market and
very boring, I reckon the Honda Jazz actually, yeah, because

(59:42):
such a practical car. I know in my family you can fit
two adults, 3 American Bulldogs and a four weeks of shopping in
it. I've seen them with.
Donkeys in them. Like they're so spacious.
Yeah, I've seen donkey that people like actually fold the
seats that were donkey in. Yeah, I've seen that.
And of course that they use for nugget nationals and stuff like
that now and. They don't call them magic seats

(01:00:05):
for nothing, Jim. Yeah, so they're they're quite
birthed her little cow. I think it is a bit of a shame
that Honda didn't think that they could have maybe like, you
know, MX fired a little bit thatwould have been good, but
absolutely correct. But.
That car, that car was yearning for a hot one.
That was yearning for a hot version.

(01:00:26):
Like, you know, if there was ever a little super Mini that
was that needed a hot version ofit, it was the Jazz like it was
it had the the right chassis, everything.
I'm with you, Jim. It it needed that.
So that's my slightly Westfield choice.
I think I think it's a great choice.
I would yeah, I completely agree.
I'm going to go well, I had a few and I'll tell you the one

(01:00:49):
I'm picking, but I'll give you I'll give you my runners up, my
runners up the Aston Martin DB9.I think it's just a or DBS.
I think it's just a stunning it still looks good today, possibly
a bit of a Casino Royale tragic and the DBS is in that.
So there was there was that I was I'm also kind of a bit of a

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I've got a bit of a soft spot for the BLOB.
IWRXI think that was a really. Yeah, yeah.
Important car that especially inan STI, it was, you know, just
iconic. I'm going to go I'm going to say
a car that really shook up the Australian market and and
Australia took it overseas was the hold of Monaro.
It was it's an it's an iconic car.

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It looked the business. It had AV8 manual transmission,
real drive, you know it 2 door, 2 doors coupe, you know,
everywhere it went, people lovedit.
It was loved in America, even though it didn't sell.
It was loved in the UK, even though it didn't sell.
It was, it was, you know, loved here, even though it didn't sell
too bad too badly. But that car in particular, it's

(01:01:53):
it kind of, you know, as a concept, it was like it was, it
was pretty much ready for production.
I think it was, it was an unvalid the 99 motor show or the
2000 motor show. I can't remember when it was
Sydney Motor Show. But then, you know, it's put in
production early 2001 or two. And it was just, you know, they
still look good today. And I think that was one of the
coolest things Australia had haddone at the time.

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And every time I see one, you know, I'd say, well, especially
if I see like a later CV8Z, that's, that's the business for
me. I think that car in particular
was, it showed what what we as Australians could do in terms of
design and what we as Australians could, could produce
and yeah, grey car. Loved it in that light blue

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colour. In in a CV8Z.
Yeah. Magic.
Turismo Blue. I believe what's called Turismo
Blue. Turismo Blue Blue.
Nice it that car for me is just even in that burnt orange colour
that they you could get them in the CVA and Z.
I'm with you on the blue. That was that was freaking hot.

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Like I'm like, that is and they and they, but they weren't
afraid to like mix it up. Like they had bright interiors,
blue interiors, yellow interiors.
You could get like all leather. These are leather interiors to
like red leather. Like they weren't afraid to, you
know, to experiment with colour and, you know, and it brightened
up in, in an otherwise, you know, a kind of boring

(01:03:22):
automotive landscape that it wasbecoming when Holden would just
put in these leery, leery interiors and stuff.
So yeah, I'm, I'm a fan of that car.
I would, I would happily have one in my garage and I would
happily defend it to the heels because I think that car is a is
a. Jeremy Clarkson tick of
approval. It did in the Vauxhall version
of it. Dude, it was that good.

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It got the James May tick of approval.
Do you remember that? Like he was like, he was like, I
even liked it like it was. Yeah.
And that's that's a hard car to,you know, that's a hard thing to
to get. So yeah, it's for me, that's a
really important car. But I think great choices,
gentlemen. I think they are cars that have
stood the test of time and I think that they are they're you

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know, looking back in about 10 years time, people be like, Oh
yeah, that was a damn good car. You know, I called you AC or two
O 4 Jazz were great. Like, you know, you know that
they've all been nuggeted to death, but they're still a great
car. You know, like that's that
that's also going to lead me to A to a question we can have for
for another day. What Car needed a hot version?

(01:04:27):
And I think a Jazz was was, you know, it was crying for a hot
version that that would've been that that would have done so
well. Imagine that against a Fiesta
St. Even The Mirage had a hot
version didn't. Even The Mirage had hot
versions. Yeah, correct.
So, you know, that's. Yeah.
Well, we're gonna have to do that at some point.
I think that that'll be a that'll be another question for

(01:04:48):
another day. 20 tens, gentlemen.20 tens.
What Car has is your car of the 20 tens?
We'll start with David Prince. Well again referring to this
list and I've already rabbited on about them, but I mind of the
20 tens was the FKA. OK. 2017 that was released and

(01:05:12):
yeah, that was the the, the one,as I alluded to earlier about
the the FN two had left me a bitcold and a bit bit sad that that
I might have been beyond it, butthe the FKA had actually
restored my faith in in fun cars.
So yeah, I remember my first drive in FK 8 very well.

(01:05:32):
The FK 8 that's that's a great choice.
It's it was polarising in terms of design great, but in terms of
in terms of to to drive great car and it the F 05 is kind of
just built from that be a good choice.
Scott, you put something in the chat.
What was that chat? You were just talking about cars
that got like hot versions and stuff.

(01:05:53):
I didn't realise that. Honda CRZ.
It did, yeah. A bit of a virgin put together.
We never got that in Australia though, I think.
I think there was like a. Not the as in.
Yeah, that, that would have beencool.
It's pretty. Nifty.
For the 20 tens, it was hard forme to narrow down one car.

(01:06:16):
So it was kind of, I guess an era or a collection.
It all makes sense, but it's kind of cars that were only in
America. But that revolution of muscle
cars coming back again with the old style, the old style look.

(01:06:36):
So you had the Mustang, you had the Challenger, the Chargers
with their the Kamara coming back in the 20 tens and stuff.
So mine was, yeah, not really picking on one car, but picking
on this era that had just been revitalised back and making
these cars that whole classic retro look of muscle cars that

(01:07:01):
was that was coming back. So that was that was kind of my
pick for the 20 tens. I'm going to say fair play to
America for doing that. Like you know, these were cars
that were so out of fashion, especially, especially juices
during GFC there were these carswere being built.
Yeah, like in designed yeah. Like to see like 2008.
They've been being put together and designed and they still want

(01:07:21):
to they still want to head with it.
That's it's a pretty ballsy moveand I think that they did a
great job. Like if you had to pick one
Scotty, the Mustang, Camaro or the Challenger slash Charger,
what would you go for? I have to go for the dodge.
I think they just let's all the different versions that they did

(01:07:43):
the the red eye, the devil you know, insane versions, the
amount of horsepower to come outof that factory with warranty
and everything that engine endedup in everything.
It ended up in everything in just like daily forward drives,
you'd get this 700 horsepower supercharged V8 in it just in

(01:08:05):
your 4 wheel drive. So hats off to him to make
something that reliable with that much power and easily add
more to it too and not have issues, not even have to crack
open the motor. Yeah, it's they absolutely
nailed, nailed that brief. You know, let's make a muscle
cut, let's bring it back and. Yeah, because I'll never, I'll

(01:08:26):
never forget that. I'm pretty sure it was the demon
and it came with a crate, the wooden crate and had the extra
parts and the thin front wheels and stuff for it that.
Do you remember how much the crate was?
How much was it? $1.00.
Oh. It was $1.00.
It was $1.00 because, you know, it was pretty much to make it,

(01:08:47):
you know, ready for the drag strip.
It was. Yeah.
Yeah, that was pretty cool. And you can buy $1.00 now.
Bond with that seats in the backI think too.
Yeah, I think you could, yeah. Yeah, Yeah.
I think you're right. Yeah, I think so, yeah.
Was that? Was that the same condition or
was that a different? They had the they had the red

(01:09:11):
eye, they had the demon, they had the Hellcat, they had, they
had so many versions of of of that guy and they just kept like
they they wouldn't have, they wouldn't miss to like 900
horsepower I think at one point brought.
Back the gap pack version as well.
They did too, yeah. Yeah.
Like freaking wild. Like what they did.
That was really, really cool. It was, it was a cool era.
Yeah, it was a it was a very cool era.

(01:09:32):
It was amazing the cars that they would just generate and the
colour choices too, like they kept it with the retro colours
of the old Chargers, the purple and everything and the really
bright green and stuff, so it was cool.
Like I know, I know vertical ones.
They're not like a refined vehicle, but you like if you

(01:09:54):
ever stand next to one, my God, they've got presents like
they're just huge. They're huge, they're huge and
they look menacing. And I'm like, first of all, I
couldn't believe how many I saw in Japan, like Japan love them.
But like I remember seeing that green one in Japan and it was a
it was a wide body challenger. And I'm like, my God, it's
massive. Like it's fat arched and just it

(01:10:17):
look, it looks angry. And yeah, if you want a car
that's got presents, that's absolutely it's got it in spades
if if that's what you want to do.
So yeah, very cool. I think.
Great choice, Scotty, Good choice.
Predictable, I guess for me, butjust cars are quite a long time
accessible sort of fun motoring wasn't had sort of fallen off
the radar. I guess in a lot of cars that

(01:10:38):
were entertaining had become quite expensive was the Toyota,
Subaru twins, I think a six and BRZI think.
Good choice. I did also think about the ND
MX5, which I think made an X5. I should be more accessible
again. But I think just the added
practicality of the other two and just yet making it a bit

(01:11:02):
more easier for people who, you know, didn't have significant
savings lying around that could actually buy a car that was
found to drive without using their licence necessarily.
So like. Do you remember when they came
out, Jim? Like the hype was, was real.
Like everybody was obsessed withthem.

(01:11:24):
Why can't we do something like that again?
Yeah, it was, it was definitely everywhere.
I do, you know, we just sort of wondered that.
And there's, well, at least to my way of thinking, there's so
lethal available now unless you're spending big dollars.
I mean, I know all cars are expensive now, comparatively
speaking, but yeah, what's, I mean, look, I mean, like, yeah,

(01:11:45):
the I-20 is still accessible, which is good.
And I think that, you know, the N cars in general are
accessible, but by and large, you haven't got a broad thing to
choose from because, you know, we're all caging to SUV's now.
They have their place, but I haven't found one that I haven't
just felt like I was falling asleep driving yet.

(01:12:08):
Yeah. So I, I think they brought a lot
of promise that, you know, you could make enjoyable motoring
accessible again without burningthrough tonnes of fuel, able to
have fun themselves like that, obviously.
And, you know, the promise of, you know, fairly reasonable
build quality and things like that too because of it not being
European, obviously. So that helps.
I wanted to say, Jim, to add to that point, like like these were

(01:12:30):
what low 30s on the road back when they came out in 2013 or
2012, whenever they whenever, whenever it was.
And this was a back to basics, real drive sports car, you know,
like not superpower. It was a proper back.
Like it came with pre spec tyres.
You know, I don't remember all the reviews were saying this is

(01:12:50):
the most easiest car to slide around because it's got the the
the shittiest tyres. You could just slide it around
everywhere and you know, and they, they loved it and they're
like, this is, you know, this iswhat the people have been asking
for. And it showed what happened
because it because that to that point, it showed what happened
when, you know, the car companies listened and they gave
people what they wanted because they sold buckets of the first

(01:13:12):
Gen Toyota brews. Like you go out today, just go
down your Nordstrom and I guarantee you'll see one.
They sold tonnes of them and forgood reason.
I think there I think that is a massive car for for that era
gym. I think you've you've absolutely
nailed it with that. Yeah.
I just, yeah, I, as you said, I think it brought back that, you

(01:13:32):
know, ability to sort of enjoy driving what you wanna drive.
And yeah, as, as we know, they've gone on to have the one
make series and everything, which is good.
I, I do know some people have bought the newer ones and I, I
look personally I, I prefer to look at the new ones, but
they're, they're so much dearer.So I sort of wonder if they've
lost a lot of the appeal becausethey're not as accessible as

(01:13:52):
they once were in my field. Are they?
They're high 40s now. I think so.
I think, I think the BRZ is about like 48 or something,
yeah. Yeah, it's, it's, it's a jump.
Like I mean, people talk about the FL 5 jumping from the FK,
but that's that's pretty much a similar jump in terms of price,
so. Yeah, it's really double.

(01:14:13):
Yeah, yeah. I mean, like, to be fair, I also
like the MX5 Heritage edition and that's like 60 something.
So yeah, you can't really complain.
But still like, yeah, not a cheap car anymore, no.
No, it's not, but good choice, Chad.
Yeah. So Jim actually touched on both
of the cars that I wanted to sort of mention.

(01:14:33):
But yeah, I think the pick for me it's because I mean Mazda
have always done A10 yearly sortof release with the MX5.
And I think when they just when they dropped it in 2015, you
know, after the BRZ and 86 release, so a few a few years
later after that, I just think for the money, I don't know if

(01:14:56):
you can really buy 86. I think comes really 86.
Somebody has like come really close to the fun of being able
to sorry, the fun you can have in that a you know, 2 door coupe
like an MX5. Obviously money is probably
about the same. I think a an MX5 now is probably

(01:15:18):
more expensive even compared to the upper market of a BRZ.
They're closer, I think. I think they're closer these
days in terms of price like the MX5 was always more expensive.
But in terms of like where they are currently in the market, I
think they've they've the gaps definitely close between the
two, the 2. Tops yes, I think MX5 would be

(01:15:39):
the winner for me They again they kept listening because they
never really stopped listening Mazda kept listening to what
people wanted with the MX badge and you know I think they really
nailed it with the ND series andit's still it's still great
looking up 10 years later and itstill looks it was just designed
this year but you know no that design's been around for 10 plus

(01:16:02):
years now yeah that's really cool I just.
I love that they drew a line in the sand because the NBA was a
bit bigger and then the NNC was,you know, a bit blobby really
compared to the earlier ones. And it was like they said, no,
no, we're diluting what this car's all about.
And yeah, back, back to basics, yeah.
Pretty much basics, yeah. Yeah.

(01:16:25):
It's not. That the NC was a bad car.
No, no, no. It's, you know, it's.
Like all generations of cars. I took a photo of the FL 5 that
I had during the week next to a 75 Civic the other day that was
like on the side of the street. And so, yeah, I mean, that's 50
years, but my goodness, it's double the size, you know, So
it, it, it had just fallen victim to what every

(01:16:47):
manufacturer does and just, you know, just and, and
incrementally increase the size of the car.
Yeah, it's like what Turner did with the 86.
They went back to a small river drive, like very similar size to
an AE86 store. It's still bigger because of
safety reasons and whatnot, but they sort of, yeah, they, they

(01:17:08):
dialled, diluted it back to whatit was.
And they're like, yeah, this is,this is the car that it should
be. And they went ahead with it.
And Mazda did the same thing. They they came back to the sort
of their roots and they went, yeah, this, this the car is
supposed to be a small, lightweight rear wheel drive car
and we went back to it. Maybe they can do that with the

(01:17:29):
mini. Yes.
I think it's due for it to be honest.
And almost this. The new mini almost looks a bit
smaller than the previous Gen. I don't know if it's just the
designing. I used to design because it
because. Have you used the next to 1
chat? They're quite big.
No, I haven't been up to up close to one of them, but yeah.
OK. So they they still are in the
large category, Yeah. Disappointing, yeah.

(01:17:54):
BMW if you're listening. Oh yeah, big time.
Going back to the Monaro, it's disappointing that it didn't
flow on into the VF series. Yeah, I agree.
And that entire Commodore range and.
What could have been? Yeah.
What could have been? Do do you guys remember the
concept of coop 60? Oh my.
God. That was stunning.

(01:18:14):
And I'm going to go for a HSV Malou.
OK, VF malou. VF Malou Yeah, all the VF ranges
I I think they they still look great on the road today when you
see them drive down the road I agree and they were good value
when you bought them they're worth a lot more now the.
VF should have done better than it did.

(01:18:36):
Yeah, I agree. Yeah, VF is a great car.
General matters, General mattersDone everything they could to to
just crash the Holden in Australia.
There's a good documentary I watched on YouTube about it and
they, they explain all the steps, like all the pieces in
place that that happened, that screwed, you know, GM Holden

(01:18:58):
over. I mean, it was, it was actually
really sad. Like I was, I was like, I like,
I didn't know all these, like I knew there was, excuse me,
issues, but GM Holden was alwaysfor the most part profitable.
And a lot of people don't realise that.
And what a lot of people don't realise too is that they
butchered the company because they they sent their best
engineers over to over to Korea,the Today with Korea to train

(01:19:23):
the people who were going to take over their jobs like, and
that like that's, that is such aso.
Bad SO. Like when I, when I found out
this, I'm going to show you, I'mgoing to send you guys this,
this, this Docker, it goes, yeah.
Can you show that Manny? That sounds interesting at.
Every corner. They they every and every time
it it, you know, Jim Holden was one of the, the profitable, you

(01:19:44):
know, places. And if it wasn't for Jim, you
know, Jim Holden, the, you know,the Zeta platform, which the
Camaro and all that stuff, and you know, the really good real
drive platform was based on, they wouldn't be in the same
place they are today. So yeah, I'll, I'll share that
in the chat with you guys at some point today.
It's good watching. And that wasn't the same vehicle

(01:20:08):
and everything, but like trying to persuade people to buy
something like the Malou like Rob said and other quality HSC
and Holden products while at thesame time selling the cruise in
the Captiva was quite. Disgusting.
Yeah, absolutely. Well, the the the the cruiser
Captiva, I think really damaged the Holden brand.

(01:20:30):
Like people say, Oh no, it was the IT was the fine was it
become like does that become a didn't didn't do that it it did.
That's not what that that that'snot that car's fault at all.
I think they, they shot themselves in the foot when they
were like, I mean, when you watch this video, you'll
understand, But they, they infiltrated our market because

(01:20:50):
they didn't want to spend the money on us, you know, importing
or doing the right thing by our mark.
And they said, Oh, you guys can just have these shitty Korean
offerings and, and they quite literally and they and they
damaged the brand like they really.
Really, the epic are in the whatwas the other one?

(01:21:10):
Malibu. Malibu and the Viva, Yeah.
Oh, yeah. God, they were all day.
Were. Yeah, they were crossovers,
right? Yeah.
Yeah, the, you know, even thougheven the Brainer was but like
the Brainer out of that lot was probably the most reliable
version. It was actually not a bad not a
bad little car. I'll see him around a lot.

(01:21:31):
Yeah, they they, they're a toughlittle nugget, but the, you
know, the epic, epic car wasn't wasn't an epic car.
Yeah, like they. Didn't they?
Didn't they do a weird transverse engine gear?
Was that in Epica? Epica Yeah, correct.
Yeah, Transverse in line 6. Yeah.

(01:21:53):
And I had Porsche, Porsche like connection there.
It was a weird, it was a weird story that car.
There should be a quiz question actually.
But yeah. But it's a bit like, you know,
if you said something like the Daimler designed the Titanic,
doesn't really mean it's a good thing.
Yeah, correct. Yeah, absolutely.

(01:22:14):
I could completely agree. But yeah, I, I'm with you, Rob.
I think the, I think the, the VFwas a, it was a very good car,
provided you got, you got like the right one, But like AVF
Malou or a, you know, like a, like a HSVGDSGDS RW1 is the
ultimate Australian car in, in the last, you know, 30 years,

(01:22:36):
you know, they did epic things like they did for what we had
and our, and our quite literallyminuscule budget.
We, you know, we should be proudof that car because it wasn't,
it wasn't, it wasn't a bad car. Yeah, they've got, they've had
the issues with the transmission, the torque
converters, but you know once that sort of they're, they're
mostly pretty good. One of the reason to buy a
manual too. Yeah, correct.

(01:22:57):
Absolutely. My pick is a car that I actually
own, which is the Ford Fiesta St.
It won every of the year award that it entered.
This is even like the the the previous year and the current
Gen like the current Gen, I think came out late 2019, early

(01:23:18):
2020. But you know, I'll put that in
there Top Gear car of the year twice.
You know, in terms of what it what it offered was a fun little
cheap car for, you know, for themasses and it and it delivered
in spades And it, it showed thatcheap hot hatches could still be
fun and still be good and reliable and, and accessible.

(01:23:43):
And like, I know we, we, we rag on Ford Australia a lot on this
show. Rob's not not included, but.
They're great. But, you know, Ford Australia
didn't have to offer the, the, the Fiesta St here, like they
could have said, no, you're not getting it.
And the fact that they still offered it in, in Australia,
even though they didn't sell the, the normal Fiesta towards

(01:24:04):
the end shows, you know, that they, they were committed to, to
giving people a fun, you know, fun alternative to, to, you
know, fun alternative little car.
It's it's kind of like especially the like the first
Fiesta St that that we got, you know, well, the the mark 7 and
and mark a like in America, whenthey got the mark 7 Fiesta St,
it was, you know, all motoring journalists bought that car

(01:24:26):
because they said this is, it's that good that we're going to
buy this this cheap little, you know, poor, you know, poorly,
you know, finished little car it.
But it's, it's epically good to drive.
I always say if a if a an automotive journalist buys a
car, you know, and they put their.
Good sign. Isn't it yeah, yeah, when they
put their hard earned in an actual you know, on a on a
vehicle, it's a great sign. It shows that the the company

(01:24:50):
got it right and and Ford for the Fiesta St they they got it
right. So yeah, that for me is the the
peak of the of the 2000s. They just they they, they
absolutely nailed that little car.
And everyone that drives on is like they walk away from saying,
you know what, that's actually alot of fun.
It's and fun is something that was missing in the 2000s, I
think in a in a lot of ways and especially accessible fun.

(01:25:13):
And that's why, that's why your choice of the the toebrews gym,
you know, the toebrew twins, youknow, that was, you know,
accessible fun like that, that it gave fun to the masses.
And, and you know, people need that.
Look, you might have a crappy day at work and but you hop in
your car and you take the long way home because it's more fun,
you know, And if a car makes youmakes you feel happy when you

(01:25:34):
get home because you've you've done that, then I think that's
it's hit the nail on the head and then you think you made the
right choice. The other thing too actually
though, is I quite like Rob's inclusion of the HSC there
because I think we're all quite sad that we can't.
Even if, you know, we had the chance to complain a lot too,
that we can't look at current locally made cars and sort of

(01:25:54):
look at it with a bit of pride. That's gone, which I think is
quite sad because that was therefor such a long time.
And even there again, we poke fun at the other person's team
and you know that ours is betterthan theirs is that that was
really good. Whereas we haven't got that
anymore and that's quite sad. It is sad.
I mean, like Ford Australia, youknow, the, the Falcon, the

(01:26:15):
Falcon, you know, like you guys don't like Falcons and always
have and always will. But like the, you know, they
didn't have, they had zero budget to for the FGX and
especially for the Sprint. Like they put all they had with
their peanuts into that, into that car.
And look, it was a good car, butit wasn't, it wasn't a great
car, you know, and it felt like they went out with a, with more

(01:26:36):
of a whimper than than than HSVHSV went out swinging.
Like they were like, they're like, yeah, we well, we're
going, but we're going to go, we're going to go hard as, as,
as we go out, you know, and, andthey, they went GDSRW 1, you
know, it was faster around a racetrack than innocent GTR.
You know, that that's, that's ridiculous in a four door sedan.

(01:26:56):
So that for me is just like, youknow, it's so sad that we don't
have that. And these cars like they weren't
expensive. Well, I mean, they were
expensive, but they, they're pricey, but they weren't German,
you know, expensive money. Like they were accessible, you
know, like extra 6 turbos, 45 grand.
You know what? What was yours?

(01:27:16):
Rob 42,000. On the road. 42 on the road for
a 50th anniversary turbo brand new, you know, where can you,
where could you have got that performance anywhere in the
world for that, for that money? You you just couldn't.
And you know, a lot of the badgeknobs are they always looked
down on on the Australian stuff.But at the end of the day, you

(01:27:37):
know, they offered a lot for notmuch money.
And, you know, it's, it's a shame that, that it ended the
way it did. The old expression that you
don't appreciate something untilit's gone.
It's gone. Yeah, Americans love them too.
They do good choices, gentlemen.I think that's yeah, it's kind
of a sad note to end that on, but I think, yeah, I think it's
an important, it's an important thing to be said.

(01:27:59):
But yeah, we did some good cars.And I think all the cars we've
named over the last few weeks interms of in terms of the 70s to
to now, I think all of them are great choices with people And
people look back on those cars quite fondly.
And, you know, a lot of them arelike a jazz or a, you know, or a
chord Euro. They weren't, they weren't a
special car inverter Commons, like a, you know, a special car.

(01:28:20):
But they were, you know, a good car and they and they, they gave
people reliability and they gavepeople, you know, all what you
needed to, to, to be, to be successful.
Yeah. It's, it's just interesting to
see, to see the car landscape now where where in, in let's say

(01:28:41):
five years time in 20, in 20, Was it 2030?
We'll be saying, oh, guys, pick your best cars from the twenty
20s and it'll be like maybe a maybe a a ABYD, you know, Shark
6 or a but but seriously, you know, like it's it's it's going
to I think, you know, it's goingto be hard to to kind of get

(01:29:04):
there. I think the only cut out in the
last few years have come out. That's been kind of really
interesting. For me.
It was the FL 5, especially on the driving one.
But I mean, there's a few more ones, but I think we'll have to
see where the next few years take us.
But then the key of Tasman, right?
Did it look good? No comment, David Prince, no
comments. I I actually saw my first one in

(01:29:25):
the flesh tonight when I was about to come back for this.
Yeah. But I think clearly they have
purchased it in black. That's the colour.
Yeah, yeah. Harley said the same thing too.
They look good in black. Oh.
You can't see the shape. Is Harley?
Is Harley? Is Holly there?
He's here, but he does. Yeah, he's working.

(01:29:45):
He's busy. He's still working away, tapping
away at his work computer. Tell him it's OK to be wrong.
It's OK to be wrong. Part of these laws are like,
yeah, but we we all hated the AUFalcon at first.
I'd always be kind of just driveit everywhere and just annoy
everybody. But.
Not everyone in this podcast hated the AU Falcon.
Probably they first. Came out they weren't pretty,

(01:30:07):
especially in the Forte version.Jim they became a meme.
That's that's why, that's why they became famous.
The. Whale.
The whale, I think it's not for the car quiz, you know.
Yeah, let's get into it. Question #110 questionable
supposed questions. The Falcon BF RIP curl Ute it's

(01:30:31):
funny it it it autocorrected to utensils had over how much in
dollar value of of extras built into the car.
I'll give closest to Jim. Jim.
I'm going to say 6 1/2 thousand.6 1/2 thousand, says Jim.

(01:30:51):
Scott. Scott.
'S going to say 55 grand. Scott says 5.
Dad, I'll do 10. Ten Oh jeez, Chad, I think, I
think you're you're a bit not going to watch. 2 for the stars,
right 2. For the stars, yeah, Remember,
Ford's got no money at this point, so they bitch.
But hang on, are. We saying that it cost.

(01:31:15):
This. Much extra or this is what they
sold it for. Sort of for so like the the the
how much value like extra of extras like, you know, dual zone
climate and all that stuff they put.
Into it, I see. I'll still stick to 10, that's
fine. Yeah, that's fine, Scotty and
David. Robin, David.

(01:31:38):
Rob, Sorry. Yeah, Rob.
I'll get 4 1/2. 4 1/2, says David.
So 4.5. I'll go 2388 dollars. 4 Jeez
your your not bad, not bad Rob. It was two it was $2700 worth of
value. So you are closest to Rob.

(01:32:01):
Well done. Did we get a breakdown of what
what was included? You got a RIP curl badging.
That's where your money went. You got I think you got dual
zone climate. You got wetsuit seat covers.
Yeah, you got the the partial leather and and I believe
leather and kind of fabric seat covers.

(01:32:23):
So so seats dual zone climate I believe as well.
So premium sound option and and and metallic paint at no extra
cost because it was inbuilt. It's no Hilux Tamworth.
I'm just. No, no, it's, it's definitely
not. It's definitely not question #2
the Kia Tasman, as we've just spoken about.

(01:32:43):
Black. Black yeah Rob.
The Kia Tasman has had an interesting start to its sales
in Australia and around the world.
Based off this, Kia are considering what Rob Rob.
Scrapping the car entirely. I wish that was the answer.
That is incorrect, Rob. David.

(01:33:04):
David. Reducing the price.
You'd think so, but no. Oh.
Chad. Chad.
Are they pulling you out of a shot?
No. Not quite a difference.
It hasn't been that much of A disaster yet.
Yet. I've seen one on the road so
far. Yeah, Jim.
I'll say 1, Jim. Jim, I'll say an update.

(01:33:26):
I would have thought that would have happened already, but no
Scotty. Mine was kind of the same.
I was singing like a facelift. Incorrect.
Believe it or not, they're considering making an SUV
version of it. So.
Yeah. With.
The Everest. They can be with the Everest and

(01:33:47):
the Fortuner and all that crap. I'm just like, what?
Like it's going to face something a mother could love
like it would. Be so pretty though.
Like even the AU is saying actually I look better than that
and that's that's. The stomach is like, really?

(01:34:09):
It it actually is. It actually is.
I think we're being mean to the stomach.
I think the stomach looks better.
Yeah. Correct.
Yeah. Question #3 What American car
has dethroned the Mustang GTD this week for a faster time on

(01:34:29):
the Nurburgring? Oh jeez, that's why.
Yep. Yeah.
So the that. Just happened the GTD.
Just happened and then another car.
Rob. Rob.
Well, would I go Corvette? I'll give it to you Rob
Corvette. Wow Corvette.
It was the ZR1 Corvette was that1X whatever it is the they took

(01:34:51):
2 versions. 2 versions beat the time 1 was an all wheel drive
version and one was it's the standard wheel drive version.
And it surprisingly, this is a car that costs, you know,
that's, that's a purpose built sports car and it was only a
couple seconds quicker than a Mustang, which is weird.
But anyway, moving on. Question #4 bring it on is a

(01:35:15):
catch phrase for What Car company bring it on.
It's it's on all their ads. It's it's kind of there at the
catch phrase slash. They're, you know, they're
marketing, marketing language like zoom zoom.
But it's it's not zoom zoom. It's it's it's it's it's like a
zoom zoom for Mazda, but it's bring it on.

(01:35:35):
Bring it on, Jim. That's.
Right, Jim. Is it Isuzu?
Incorrect. Let's go your own way.
I thought it might be bring. It.
On Bring It. On God, bring it on, Bring it
on, stud. Chad.
Is it Jeep? No, it's a Jeep is what's what's

(01:35:59):
Jeeps bought a Jeep Bought a Jeep.
No, it's a new. Need a bigger trailer?
David, David, is it Mitsubishi? Incorrect.
Mitsubishi is moving something people.
I don't know. That's, that's, that's not

(01:36:20):
Mitsubishi Spirited Castle, Spirited people.
David Prince. It was that.
It was that. Bring it on.
So who we got left? We got Scotty and I think Rob.
Rob Scotty and Rob left, yeah. Bring it on, bring it on, I'll.
Give you guys a hint, bring it on.

(01:36:41):
Think about, you know, I don't think a company like Mazda would
be saying and bring it on. That's zoom, zoom, zoom.
Not Japanese is that? What you're getting, yeah, I'll
give you it's not it's not Japanese, but like no a company
like that sell. I'll give it away if I say
anything more all. Right.
Good to know it's left a really lasting impression on people.

(01:37:03):
Yeah. Absolutely.
I'll. I've got no idea, Jaguar.
Jaguars in the whole world. World of hurt right now.
Rob, they're trying to bring something on anything.
Copy trying to bring anything onanyone.
Ethan, I'm on. They are.
They're trying to bring anythingon at this point.

(01:37:25):
That's it. Crazy Scotty.
BMW. Incorrect.
That's the ultimate driver. It's LDV.
Bring it on. Oh.
Yeah. I think it should be a badge of
honour that none of us got that.I agree.
And we should all get a point. I'll tell you what, you all get
a point. I'm going to give you all the
points. Never, never have I given a

(01:37:47):
point. Everybody getting it wrong.
There you go, score check. Chad 1, Jim 1, Scott 1, Rob 3
and David. We're on the board.
We're on the board if you. Even gave your hint we still
have even got it anyway. I was going to say it was like a
dual cab, you know, brand. But anyway, question #5 the Unos

(01:38:11):
30X, it's a little V6, had an engine size of 1 litres.
David. 1.8. 1.8 is correct. David Prince. 1.8 a.
Little car. They're great to drive.
Have you enjoyed one? I have.
I have they're. Fantastic.
I wish they sold more of them. Question number six, staying

(01:38:31):
with Unots, when did the companybecome defunct?
When do they go out of named thebusiness?
Is this closest to or? Oh yeah, I'll give closest to.
I'll go. In 1999. 99 This is David GMO

(01:38:56):
was in the next I heard. I'll go 96. 96 Yep.
Who else would like to go in? I'll.
Go to go change. I was going to say 2002. 02 Rob.
I was going to go 01. 01 and Scotty. 90.
Eight, yeah. Closest to on the money was Gym

(01:39:17):
at 96. That's when they went out of
business. Question.
Question #7 The Volkswagen Type 2T2, so the the Combi van as we
knew it had a very, very, very long life.
In which country in particular, Rob?
Brazil. Brazil's absolutely correct,

(01:39:38):
Rob. Well done.
Bonus question. You know what I'm going to ask
When did it end? Production.
Oh jeez, that's that's a hard one.
This is. Oh jeez.
I'll give closest to for this aswell.
Jim. Jim. 2015. 15 says Jim.
I'll go Rob early 2000s or I'd say about 03. 03 says Rob,

(01:40:01):
David, Scotty and Chad yet to play I'll.
Go 2010. 2010. No, I'll go 2012. 2012, says
Chad and Scotty. Then then I'll one up here and
go 2013. You did a what's it?
What's it, What's his name? Shenanigans.

(01:40:21):
Alan. He didn't.
He didn't. Alan Stephen Bradbury 2013 is
correct. It's got to go.
It'll always go one up on. Someone you'd.
Always say say 3 or 13. Right, That's, that's the rule.
That's the rule, guys. Yeah.
Question number question #8 how many generations of the Subaru
Forester have been released? David.

(01:40:42):
David. Oh, this is an album now I'm
going out from. Trying to go 5. 5 is incorrect
Chad. Chad just got in there.
I. Heard. 4 is incorrect.
Jim was next. Really.
That's not 4. No.
So what was that, Jim? 7. 7's incorrect.
Rob. Rob. 6. 6 is correct you Stephen

(01:41:06):
Bradbury. So.
More than I thought. With the new one released that's
that's the official 6th generation of Forrester.
Well, they just released anotherone.
They have that. In the last week.
In the last week Yep. Question #9 Trevor Wilkinson of
TVR. So if you are we all aware of

(01:41:28):
what TVR is, I think we should all be a well and truly aware He
incorporated design elements of his dogs chewing of a scale
modelled car. On which TVR model?
He's not, so he. Said that so so so.
Trevor Wilkinson of TVR incorporated design elements
from his dog chewing a model a scale model on.

(01:41:50):
He used design elements of the chewing the chewed up model on
which TBR model. Chad, I think Chad now I.
Believe it's the Cigarrus. It is the cigarrus,
unfortunately. Never heard of it.
Not the cigars. The cigars is cool, but it's
it's not the cigars. It's not.
The cigar. No, it's not the cigar.

(01:42:10):
Sorry, I said incorrect. I said incorrect.
Incorrect, Jim. Was it?
I can't pronounce the property, but is it the Shimaron?
Shimaron, give me a .5 because it starts with those letters.
It's actually. I'll give it to you.
I'll give you. I think it's the only one that

(01:42:31):
works. It's the Crimeera, Crimeera I.
Think it's yeah, Crimeera. Crimeera Yeah, that's the one.
Yeah, I'll. I'll give it to you soon.
So typical TVR doing weird, weird, weird stuff.
His dog chewed a scale model toyand was like, oh, yeah, I kind
of like that. And then incorporated design
elements into that actual car. Not not.

(01:42:55):
Yeah, it's just not. Right.
Is it? Yeah.
All right. Score check Before we get to the
last question. Chad one, Scotty 2, David 2, Jim
3 and Rob on four. Last one is a is a.
What's it called? Rosha.
Rosha question. Thank you.
Oh. Hi, Tease.

(01:43:15):
Yeah, I'm really bloody struggling today.
I've had a had a long day. A perfect balance.
To deploy the performance of a great engine and power to weight
ratio, you need to obey the lawsof physics.
Welcome to the science of fun. Naturally the Blank is a front
engine, rear wheel drive sports car.

(01:43:37):
It's the blueprint for real driving enjoyment.
Look closer and the fundamentalsare enlightening.
Weight distribution is near perfect at 53 to 47 front to
rear, whilst the centre of gravity is seriously low, 4240
millimetres long, 1775 metres wide and just 12185 millimetres
high. The Blank is ideally tailored to

(01:44:00):
exploit its inherently nimble handling and instant power
delivery throughout. For throughout, form and
function complemented Geller perfectly.
The shape is aerodynamically efficient, ideally sized to
maximise performance and handling that reflects the Blank
sports car heritage beautifully.From the powerful low set front
grille to the unique 17 inch alloy wheels and twin exhausts,

(01:44:24):
this is the design that signals its intent at every curve and
detail. The equal bore and stroke of
each piston in the potent boxer engine is 86 millimetre.
Scott. Is it the Toyota A6?
It is a Toyota A6 Scotty, well done.
I say earlier, but I was holdingout for a bit longer.
Isn't that long? No, that's surprising.

(01:44:45):
He did, Yeah. They are that they are that
long. But The funny thing is though,
the, the, the bore, the bore stroke is 86 millimetres as
well, which is in the name, which is kind of cool.
I know that's that was really, really cool.
So it's 86 more than 86 stroke. It's it just?
Said it was equal. No, it Oh yeah, the equal boring

(01:45:08):
stroke of each piston is 86 mil.Yeah, you're right.
That's that's really cool. Square boxer.
Yeah, score check, gentlemen. Chad won, David 2, Scott and Jim
on three, and tonight's winner on a grand title of five is Rob.
Well done. Thank you.
Thank you. Can I thank Scotty for pipping
Jimmy out of this? And well, that's a little bit of

(01:45:34):
tie and then we had to go for a tie break, you know?
Thank you, Scotty. So I didn't even have to, I
didn't even even have to ask youwho you wanted to thank because
you just used straight into it anyway.
Right away. Sorry.
Well, no, no, it's fair. It's it's the car quiz this

(01:45:55):
shade thrown every time Jim threw shade last week.
It's it's you're allowed to havebragging rights for a week, to
throw, to throw shade. That's totally fair.
Appreciate it. That's all right, I'll give it.
I'll allow that. Gentlemen, that was fun.
I think that's a car. I think that's a car quiz and I
think that's a podcast. Let's finish up the show with

(01:46:15):
some plugs. Jim's mowing, Jim's Civics.
Hopefully that's on the. Mend.
Thank you. Yep, my my plug will be to, you
know, get off your phone while you're riding a bicycle.
Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, yeah, gyms.
Tips Should we get gyms tips? Gyms tips, gyms tips and also,

(01:46:38):
if you're not doing any road works then don't leave 40
kilometres an hour signs out on the road for all of us to dawdle
in please. I agree with you, Jim.
I agree. Most of Melbourne, isn't it?
Yeah, it's. We're all 40 body clock on this
per hour, Rob. Emmitt's pencil creations.
Emmitt's pencil creations, Yeah.So make sure you get you can get

(01:47:00):
one of these drawn up of your own car.
Absolutely. That's lovely.
He's done great. He's done a great job.
Awesome. That looks so good.
Emmitt's pencil creations. He is a bit of a study.
Great. Great human too.
I've been following him for a while.
Yeah, great humans to support some locals that do lovely work.
You're also doing it, Rob. So as you know, Rob's doing.
Everything as always. As always, Chad's deliveries

(01:47:23):
delivering to a place near you. Yeah, now doing international
deliveries. International deliveries, yeah.
Dips in the four tractor. Boxes.
Chad's Dips Chad's Dips. Very good.
Scotty's golf tip of the week. Mine goes to patients, golf tip

(01:47:46):
of the week. You'll see a lot of pros,
they'll they'll crack it. You know, there's things up
there where they've thrown the Golf Club and stuff like that.
But in instance with me, I on one of the holes I got a like
quadruple bogey. So I was like 4 over terrible,
terrible. The very next hole apart, well,

(01:48:07):
I can turn around in no time. Yep.
So patience. You shouldn't watch happen.
Gilmore too. Patience is a virtue and David's
wisdom. A smart person knows what to
say. A wise person knows whether or
not to say it. Oh, like that one?
That's good. It's very nice.
Very nice. Yeah.
Well done, David. David's son.

(01:48:30):
That is very good. David's son.
Yes, hi. Hi.
Hi. Chad, safe travels mate.
Thank you very much. Have a have a good time.
Bring Robert Diff home and thankyou very much.
Yeah. I'm not bringing nothing else
but just a diff on the plane he's.
Just he's taking it. Overhead compartment.

(01:48:51):
Yeah. Yeah, he's just, he's just
taking with him an empty bag like he's.
Yeah, just just to bring it back.
Can't wait, it's looking over his.
Shoulder build, building the diff the whole time.
Safe travels mate. I can share Facebook pages Car
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