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On this episode of Car Torque, Matty, Ed, Scotty, David, Rob and Chad discuss their latest updates with their cars. They also discuss Sakura Picnic which is organised by the Toyota Car Club of Victoria.

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(00:05):
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They see us in there. OK, and because it's not a super

(00:29):
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2 letters A&U. Long live my Ltd.
Welcome to Castle Get to Choose on here in 98.9 NW FM.
It's me, Maddie Jay in the studio with Mr Chad the Bell and
online with Mr Edward Bunting. How are we, gentlemen?

(00:51):
Hello, good. Hello, Matthew.
Good. Yes, good.
How are you? Very well.
Thank you, mate. Very well.
Good to see you guys. Good to see you guys on the
weekend, which we're gonna talk about very shortly.
Yeah, Sakura Picnic. Allison's probably like seeing
you guys on the weekend. You must have had like a date or
something. But no seeing.
We caught it, but I think the whole crew was there, you know,

(01:12):
even Adrian was there to to. Pretty much which?
Was good to say. Adrian was there.
Adrian was there. Oh sure, I saw him.
Yeah, I yelled at him as he drove.
Out. Yeah, he was there and then we
proceeded to have a fun. I know.
Yeah, Adrian, Yeah. Yeah, yeah, we had a bit of fun
on the on the freeway home, which which was which was which
was a little bit of a little bitof fun.

(01:32):
But yeah, it was it was good to see you guys.
It was great to see all the different cars there and, and
and the like. So let's Carrot crack on with
some car updates. Chat updates with you my friend.
Trying to remember last time I did something on a car.
I worked on the civic last week.Mm hmm.
I had a couple of days off sick from work, so as I was getting

(01:53):
better I decided I'd do a littlebit of.
Thing you weren't You weren't quite sick enough to not go to
the garage. From workers listening, I was
sick anyway so I I thought I'd give the bar the brakes on the
Civic and other go up bleeding them.
So I did another bleed and I just made sure that I did an
extra long one this time. So it was, you know, more, a few

(02:17):
more pumps than usual per corner.
And I had my wife help me to do that.
And it seemed to seemed to, yeah, finally give me a bit of
pedal pressure. And it was, yeah, it, it, it's
working now, but I have brakes. I have brakes and it and the car
stops under its own power. To turn out it was a couple

(02:39):
along. It was what?
The couple. Along well, I think maybe it was
a mixture of the cap and also doing a really good blade.
OK, like really like it took me like 40 minutes to do the whole
car. And I think that that the
combination of those two things helped.
And so I drove it to work on Thursday and I dropped it off to

(03:01):
get a wheel alignment as the steering wheel was like 90° off
centre since I replaced some steering arms.
And now, yeah, it's driving right.
Really I'm going to dial a bit of suspension in on the weekend.
I think just get some like, you know, some rebound settings and
stuff, right and just yeah, makeit make a drive good and maybe

(03:22):
lower the rear a little bit is sitting a little high and and
yeah, it's another time to hit the truck.
So yeah, a couple of weeks time.I reckon I'll I'll get onto a
truck day and sweet. Yeah, I'm, I'm started.
I'm ecstatic because yeah, the car drives great and it's just,
it feels good now and it's got headers as well and it sounds
good and yeah, it actually does sound really good.

(03:44):
Yeah, now it's like sounding a bit more racy than usual.
So yeah, what else have I done? So does it, does it feel more
firm and does it feel more? Yes, and it feels more direct.
It's yeah, it's like the the amount of pressure you put on
the pedal directly correlates with how much like the car wants

(04:06):
to stop. So it's like there's no, there's
no cushion, you know, there's nolike air assisted feeling where
it's like, you know, your, your pedal goes in and it's
eventually gets harder and harder.
This is like, it's already like kind of hard to start with and
it just gets harder from there as you push more fluid into the

(04:26):
through the cylinder into the 1st.
Track thing will be a lot of kind of modulating throttle.
Yeah, learning how to brake again, basically.
Modulating braking because you're not gonna have that
assistance, absolutely, and you're probably gonna flat spot
your tyres. Oh yeah, yeah look, yeah, my
tyres are already like 6 track days old so it's like it's
nearly time to get a new set. So it'll be a good test to be

(04:47):
able to find the limit of the brakes and you know, how much
they can lock up and yeah, how much I need to work on my
braking now. So yeah, it's, it's, it's a
little bit more testing and thenyeah, we can do a little bit
more sort of competitive time stuff eventually.
So yeah, I think that's it for me.
I didn't really touch any other.Oh, I did drive, drive the

(05:08):
Sylvia on the on the weekend secure picnic and it's been
giving me some issues with the alarm and doing a flat battery
for some reason. So I'm still in the middle of
trying that out. I've fully disabled the alarm
for the moment, so it's just, you know, anyone listening,
please don't come and steal my car.
But it's yeah, I'm just trying to figure out what's what it's

(05:29):
doing. And yeah, I think I've basically
cooked a battery like it's, it'sdrained too many times and it's
yeah. So I've got to, I'm going to
figure out what's going on with the gremlins and yeah, but
otherwise the car drive. Awesome.
Yeah. And as usual, yeah, that's it
for me. Awesome.
We're also joined by Mr Scotto Doe Johnson and Mr. David
Prince. How are you gents?

(05:50):
Really good. Thank you.
Can't hear you, Scotty. Yeah, he's he's he's giving us
the. Nothing.
Scott Crickets 1 moment please. We'll come we'll we'll come back
to you. Scotty in a.
Button OH. Yeah, we.
There we go. We.
Got you there, we. Go it's it's it's new new laptop
at new school. So I haven't done it set up for

(06:11):
Zoom. So I just had to change to a
proper microphone to set that upso.
Well, you're here. We're all.
Good. I'm here.
I'm doing well. Thank you very much.
No worries. How's your first two?
How's your first two days been at your new school?
Yeah, pretty good. Done a few classes of of English
and got to actually teach. Wasn't really much behaviour
stuff so. Oh wow.
Haven't had that for quite some time.

(06:32):
Yeah, it. Would.
Be years. I got sevens and eights.
Nice. Nice, Edward, I'll do this with
you. It's been a while and I do
apologise. Yeah, my Tuesday nights have
been elsewhere over the last fewweeks.
But you know, back to normal regular programming.
As I said today with Prince, I think yesterday, so I can't

(06:54):
remember where we got to car wise last time, but I can run
through a few updates, the most recent being the the yellow Wasp
Magna. Sorry, it's not a Magna, it's a
Verada. I keep calling it a Magna.
I'm down grading it. It's a Verada that did go to

(07:15):
Sakura Picnic on Sunday. It was nice to join a bunch of
fellow magnet drivers. We're not we're not.
We're not totally taking over the Honda Car Club, but there
was a a few crossovers. There they will.
So I think we had eight or nine cars.
They're a nice mixture of your early TMTP moving into TRTS

(07:36):
moving into, you know, KRKS or whatever.
Mine is a K J2 I think. So, yeah, we had, we had, we had
three out of the Magna shapes very well covered, I think from
that bunch. So that was good.
Look, the Wasp is still driving.It looks better than it drives
at the moment. The shockers are all stuffed and

(07:58):
it's very wiggly on the road. You know, you go over a pothole
and the rear end feels like it'ssort of twisting out from under
you. It's it's not happy in the
suspension. Fortunately in my garage are 4
brand new shockers. Thank you, Maddie J for sourcing
those and rocker cover gaskets. So it's going to get that stuff
done on Sunday. Still needs a driver's drive

(08:20):
shaft and two rear tyres. I'm being real tied ass with the
tyres. I'm waiting till they're at
IMLAC second hand for a pair of 2 to 550 seventeens.
If it gets to a week before Magna Fest and I still don't
have any then all right, I'll shell out for some more
expensive ones. But. 5017. 5017 Keep an eye out

(08:41):
for a pair of those. I've got a few people on the
hunt. I'll speak, I'll speak to my
tiger. He always gets the second hand
ones. In yeah ideally like, you know,
40 bucks each or something wouldbe lovely so but you know,
engine wise and driving wise otherwise that car is fine.
You know, everything's working and, and it's not overheating or
doing anything nasty or belchingsmoke or, you know, it's

(09:03):
interesting. At that event, Sakura, I, there
was one of the Magna guys there who's got like, he's got like 7
of them or eight of them. And I, he kept reeling off.
He's got this VRX and that VRX and this like amazing
collection. He was there in that TMR, which
is the last of the three 80s, but done by team Mitsubishi

(09:24):
Valley or whatever and 1:20 and yeah, quite a rare thing.
You're you're starting your own 1 of 20 clubs.
Yeah, yeah, exactly. So mine's one of 20.
Yours is 1 of 20. I was chatting to him and he
said, oh, I could start yours up.
So I started it up and it, you know, it sounds very healthy.
It's not an unhealthy. And he goes, oh, that's the
sound. That's what it should sound

(09:44):
like. I was like, oh, that's good.
He knows these He. Knows them.
Yeah, yeah, that's that's nice. So that's the WASP.
What else have I? I spent a fair whack of time in
the 300 coupe over the holidays on one or two days particularly
that's driving very well. Other than the fuel gauge on
those old 80s nineties Mercs, it's they can get very flickery

(10:09):
and basically, you know where it, it's not a smooth sort of up
and down of the gauge. It'll, you'll turn the key on,
it'll go going to a particular level and then it'll sort of
jump down really fast. And it's not a, it's not a
smooth up and a smooth down. I did a bit of huge so mine now
is stuck on 3/4. It's basically the.
I had that exact same thing. Happen, and I know what it is.

(10:29):
Yeah, the float runs up and downin the tank on these two sort of
wires and they get very gummed up over the years.
And I saw a YouTube clip where the guy pulled the thing out of
the tank, cleaned them with acetone, basically nail Polish
remover and then his fuel, you know, the float flows really
freely and then your gauge is accurate and doesn't jump

(10:51):
around. So that's exactly what's
happened to mine. The floats just got stuck up at
3/4. And so my gauge is just reading
constant 3/4. It's not, you know, coming down
because I kept thinking, geez, just cars getting better and
better for economy wise. It's great.
And I was like, oh, no, that's that's busted.
But yeah, it sounds really easy.You can get to the tank from in

(11:11):
the boot and you can pull out the thing.
And so I'm actually going to give that a crack myself because
I'm just so God damn handy with cars these days.
I I. I did that exact thing I did and
it was. It was pretty easy.
Did you clean it with? Acetone, is that what you did
with on the? Wires I did that, but then I
realised that one of the parts was was broke inside internally

(11:33):
on it. So it was it was stuffed, but
but I just I just replaced it with another one and they
they're not cheap if it's if it's broken into, no, I.
Look, you can buy them for sort of 200 and something dollars.
That's pretty much what I paid for it, yeah.
Yeah, but I I think I can probably fix it unless something
snapped or. Yeah.
Like it's 90% chance. It's that sometimes they do,

(11:54):
they do break there. There is a chance that they do
break in mine. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Then then the car was. Completely had it it that was
broken in my own, but it's I cangive you a hand with it.
So I did it before I took it outtwice.
So I had to put it back in when I realised I couldn't fix it,
sorry. I put it back in the order 1 and
pull it out and did it again. Yeah, yeah, it's if you want a
hand with it, I'm happy to give you a hand with.
That. Thank you.

(12:14):
Yeah, That could be a fun littleafternoon project one day.
Absolutely. So that's the red car.
Otherwise driving? Well, it was the steering wheel.
It'd be similar to you, Chad, after an alignment.
I actually had it aligned because it had a new front right
tie rod end in it. So the steering wheel was
aligned by the the tyre shop that the mechanic chose to use
down the road. And I got it back and it was
slightly to the left and it was annoying me on those long drives

(12:37):
I did. So I took it back to them.
I said, oh, no worries, you know.
So they realigned it. Now it's slightly to the bloody
right and I'm just, that's nice.Do you drive the cars after you
do this? Like within a minute down the
road? I'm like no it's not straight.
And the 124 Mercedes is very easy to get straight because the
top of this 2 is dead flat. It lines up with the bottom of

(12:57):
the dash. You can see when it's off.
So anyway, now we're up to the right rather than off to the
left. Other than that, that's fine.
The I bought AI sold my little manual swift hatch.
Finally I found someone from Britain who knows how to drive a
manual so she bought that. What else did I sell?
Recently I sold the 280 E the red Merc that I had.

(13:21):
That went through the auction. That went through the auction,
so I believe it went to live in Coburg.
I purchased a 2015 Swift and sold that to a friend of a
friend and traded in her 05 Swift.
So I've sort of had a trifecta of Swift.
My friend who's a dealer was like, you should just become the

(13:41):
Swift guy. And I'm like, well, it's not a
bad guy to be. They're a great car.
They're. Very popular.
I'd be quite happy. Being just the Swift guy myself,
yeah, so I've tried it in this little auto from 05, which
mechanically is sweet, but it's copped a bit of hail.
There's a Ding in the right front panel, you know, the front
bumpers. Seen better days, but drives

(14:02):
perfectly. The auto and the engine are very
healthy, good service history. So I think what we'll do with
that one is to bring it back fully cosmetically is going to
be too expensive. You know it's not worth it, but
nor is it worth me just sending it to the auctions.
I think because of how well it drives, I'll probably get it
roadworthy because I don't reckon it will need bucket loads

(14:23):
for roadie and then just sell itas a cheap turnkey roadie car.
You know, not ask 5 for it, likeask, you know, four or three
eight or something. And someone at that money would
surely just want a turnkey transport Swift.
It'll be it'll become like your QA and Uber Eats car.
Yeah, exactly right. It'd be something like that.

(14:43):
But there are no issues with hail damage and roadworthy.
No, a good question, Chad. Depends where it is.
If. It's just in the middle of the
room and the bonnet fine. If it's big enough, dense on
structural three quarter panels and A pillars then they'll ping
it for. Right, okay.
So this doesn't have any there. It's literally just roofing a
bit of bonnet and even the doorsare fine, you know well.

(15:06):
You probably do a little bit of PDR just to improve.
It good. But yeah, I've seen, I've seen
them before where if the dents right on the A pillar or there's
a few and right on the C pillar like because it's the structural
panel they'll they'll make, they'll say no to that.
OK. So that's the current transport
is that Swift Pajero's had an oil change.
I did a lot of case in that overthe sort of 10 day break we had

(15:29):
recently. That's running well.
The tyres I'm happy with. My Geo Landers still haven't put
shocks in it from our good friend Reed Reed.
Oh yes, icon. Yes, I haven't done that yet,
but that's on my list. The Scamp is currently on
charge. What else?
Nothing much else, I don't think.
Yeah, unless anyone else can remember my cars.

(15:51):
Oh, Windows 15. The the Reno 16 Yellow is at my
house. I removed the brake master
cylinder. I ended up sending that to a mob
in Adelaide called Power Brakes.And if you go on their website,
they are very comprehensive. They rebuild slave cylinders,
master cylinders, everything to do with brakes.
They manufacture rekit, rehone, re sleeve.

(16:13):
They do all of that. A mob in Melbourne I used to go
to, you know, don't anymore do alot of that stuff.
They're more sort of selling parts.
They're not so much rebuilding, but yeah, I rang the lady over
there and she was like, Oh yes, the twin piston 1 and I'm like
yeah, it is. And can you give me some photos?
There you go. She said Oh yeah.
So that's been recently before and I'm like bloody hell, this

(16:35):
this it is on to it. Like yes, it has been recently
before. So not by me, but so we, yeah, I
was very confident sort of sending it to them.
And she said, Yep, we can get the kit.
They don't get the rubber kit just from one place that
sometimes they'll source them from.
You know, this seal comes from here and that seal comes from
here and they'll make it up fromdifferent suppliers.

(16:57):
So yeah, she said that's what they're doing in that case.
Then look, it's not mega cheap, but I'm like, if it comes back
brand new and working and I can bolt it to the car and look,
there was some online overseas that you could get but I'm
always sceptical. They put like 18 different
master cylinders in that car because they had a long
production run and I just thought, oh, I could order 1 and

(17:20):
it might be a smidge cheap, but then you get it and then the
bolt holes aren't the same. And yeah, I'd just rather have
the original 1 rebuilt. Yeah, that's right. 100% yeah,
especially when it's on everydaycar, you know it could.
Doesn't matter if it's off the road for another.
No, no, no, no, no. It's sitting in my garage for
two weeks sitting there. So doing that, oh, I bought a

(17:42):
little EG Civic as well. So you know, the 92 good shape,
EG 150 KS in an auto. So you know, a neat little car,
a few Dings in it, one of them in particular quite large behind
the driver's door, which is a bit of an awkward spot.
It's not like a, you know, frontpanel you can bolt on and off.

(18:03):
So that needs, it's not unhealthy and it's certainly
very original, but it needs too much for me to go any further
with it. So that's at the auctions coming
up, probably tomorrow, if anyone's interested in EG Dibic
coupe with 150 KS. Captiva Blue.
Yeah, Captiva Blue. Is that the name of that blue
terrible name for a given Holden?

(18:26):
It's been allied. By the Holden Calabrex down.
But yeah, that little Civic willit actually had a, a problem
where it was dying at traffic lights and, you know, hazards
flashing and things. And it really was a combo of two
things. The battery was cactus and it
was getting really hot, you know, as she drove.

(18:47):
And if I put it on charge, the battery was just physically
getting really hot. There's something not, not happy
about it. So I, I got rid of that and got
another battery from the wreckerfor it for 40 bucks, which was
good. So that solved the starting
issue and the battery going flatissue.
The second one was this dying atthe lights, which we sort of
honed down to being the immobiliser was doing something

(19:09):
funky. So I took, took it to the auto
Alec. He ripped the whole immobiliser
system out of it and he said theway they'd actually installed it
was all through the ignition switch.
And he said it shouldn't be putting that much power through
that kind of switch. So he said it's probably a combo
of things, but yeah, just get rid of it all.
And and it didn't die at all. Once it was gone, it it, it was

(19:32):
driving fine. So, you know, moral story there,
kind of right person, right job,relatively simple.
The mechanic where it had been at was talking about rebuilding
carbies and things like that. And I was like, yeah, I don't
think so. They're pretty 150K.
They don't generally need that sort of work.
So it's a carbie model Ed. It's the last of the Carvey

(19:54):
models. Yeah, it's a nice.
Twin carb. Awesome.
Yeah, yeah, twin carb. So yeah, that car stop starts,
drives nice. So now I was comfortable sort of
sending it to the auctions. You know it needs a muffler and
it's got the Dings in it, but other than that?
You know how many people that that that do cars up to make
them comfortable enough? For the auction, I mean, I sort

(20:18):
of wanted it, you know, like I couldn't have sent it out there
like it was because the battery dies overnight.
So I thought, well, they're not going to be able to start it and
then if it if it dies on them, then they'll they'll list major
engine faults or something and it just it didn't have that.
So I thought I've just got to have it turnkey, you know,
idling, driving fine. OK, good.

(20:39):
So I think it was worth spendinga little bit of money on that.
There you go I'll shut up. That's all the car news, I
think. Very.
Good. We've been joined by Rob.
How are you, Rob? Good.
Thank you. How are we all?
Good mates, good. Next on the list is Scotty Doe.

(21:00):
So what I was doing was getting the 31 ready for sucker picnic.
I was making sure it was scrubbed up and looked nice and
tidy. So I just gave the rims bit of a
Polish, got them shining again. We got rid of some of those dirt
marks that are kind of on there that's blended its way into the

(21:22):
paintwork. So everybody get rid of that bit
of a wax to seal over the top. Drove it round to fill it up.
That was $120.00 later it took 55 litres.
So it was fairly. Yeah, it was fairly empty

(21:42):
because I've just when I did drive it, the last time I filled
it up was with the 20 litre drum.
I just filled up and then just poured it in there because
remember like ages ago I was going through that trouble of I
think I went through 2 fuel pumps and that before I they
just kept getting clogged up. But yeah, I fixed, fixed that
issue, scrubbed it up. I had some rubbing issues on the

(22:08):
rear, pumped up the tyres. They're actually very, very low,
which makes sense. I mean, it's been jacked up for
over a year and that, so they'regoing to go flat when they've
been sitting around for so long.Don't scrub as much anymore.
Just on that back on the back quarter panel.
I've just got to kind of bash itup a little bit more just the

(22:29):
way the lip is, because I'm pretty sure it's probably meant
to have the plastic in a guard or something on there, which it
doesn't have the plastic in a guard.
So now you've just got a sharp piece of metal that's kind of
sitting there. So when it goes down, it
catches, it catches on that and just rips up chunks of your tyre

(22:50):
on the side wall. Not ideal.
So yeah, still it's a comfy ride.
I mean, that's, that's what you get for something that doesn't
have the really, really hard shocks where if you hit a bump,
your kidneys move and that's about it.
That's the only thing moving. So it's kind of a bit softer.

(23:10):
Was Absolutely Fabulous to drive, had no, no faults of it,
cruised nicely. Not really much of a vibration
in it. It will need a wheel alignment
with everything that I've that I've kind of fiddled with, I've
probably bashed those things around so.
But other than that it was actually very smooth, went into

(23:32):
gears very nicely, temperatures were a OK from what I could see
and from what it read. I don't know how accurate it is
because on the way back the fuelgauge decided to work.
And then when I nearly. And then when I nearly got home,
it fell down and died again, so I was empty tank again.

(23:57):
So I'd say the drama with that is the the dash itself, yeah, is
the cluster itself. I don't think it's the the float
or anything. They've got a problem where the
the soldering starts to crack because it's that old in it and
people pull them out and try andresolder and stuff like that.

(24:19):
So. Yeah.
Either do that and see if that works or I just buy a second
hand one, see how I go. Mine's forever on 250,000
kilometres anyway. Doesn't travel any more than
that. That's just how much case is
always on it. But I think what I noticed was
super funny was everybody with an old car, RR 31 all had Agps,

(24:44):
Speedo on it all did everyone. Had one that'll work.
Yeah. Or it's off.
Yeah, that was hilarious. Are they known for that?
Are they the clusters just die or something They.
Are actually, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
OK. I.
Think I can remember my my uncle's Pintara was like that, I
think and very similar. It was, it was a bit funny in

(25:04):
the dash, so. Yeah, so the odometer reader
breaks because the little plastic cog wheel.
Yeah, gets brittle and snaps. You can replace that.
You can buy the little parts. You see, I get them from Jaycar.
You can buy the little. The little spigot wheel and
replace that. So the gauges that do work on it

(25:27):
is the battery Revs and the oil pressure.
OK. Oh, and and temp I guess, too.
Yeah, which isn't too bad. Cool.
That it has an oil pressure, That's a gauge, yeah.
They were. Called a comprehensive dashboard
in those. And.

(25:47):
Implementation. And I only stalled it once when
I was leaving in front of everybody that.
Time to do. It I was, I kind of, I thought I
had it in first and I was like Iwas, I was looking and then I
was about to go and then I went and then died.
I went, oh crap, it's in 3rd. I said no, quickly put it in

(26:13):
first and disappear. If anybody notices.
Yeah. But oh, well, that's, that's my
update. Just the car was great, ran well
and I had I had a lot of fun with it to actually get out
there and experience it. That's awesome.

(26:33):
I couldn't believe it, Scott. I thought it was a mirage.
Finally, the R31 being driven somewhere.
Yeah. Oh, and shout out.
Thank you to David for the idea with the rubber pedals.
Oh. Yeah, because I had brand new
rubber pedals and I couldn't getthem on.
And he said just on the floor. Yeah.
And he said put them. Yeah.

(26:54):
And he said put them up on the dash so they heat up, so they
get more flexible and bend. And that worked perfectly.
Yeah, Wolf. He's an interiors man.
He's a girl for a reason. Absolutely.
It's funny, as I was standing there talking to Will, the guy
with that TMR 380, you know, something came up about
interiors or something and I said, oh, you just got to talk

(27:17):
to David about that. He said, oh, something's come
unglued today and he goes, oh, why David?
I said he's new life vinyl and leather, like, you know, he's
your interiors man. He goes, oh, his eyes just lit
up. He was like, oh, he he thought
it was really stuck with something.
I can't remember it was, but there you go.
You might get a call from him, David.
Or there you go, I. Think at some stage, very.

(27:40):
Good David Prince. Biggest car update was the crew
picnic obviously, which I think we'll probably talk about later.
We'll. Get to that in a second, yeah.
The Yeah, I only got back from the Land of the Rising Sun on
Thursday at Thursday lunchtime, so I had Friday just to just
tidy up a few things before I went back to work yesterday.

(28:02):
It didn't involve meeting meeting Mr Rigglesworth down at
IMAX because there's another TR magnet down is.
That the white sedan. Yeah, white elite sedan.
Yeah. Yeah, that's the one.
Yeah, I I saw that. So I did grab something out of
that because I do have an elite radio and with the graphic
equaliser from the TR. But in the lowest spec cars,

(28:24):
this is really ultra geeky. Some people will tune out
probably during this, but the lowest spec cars actually have a
have a single gin unit and then they have a little pocket
underneath. But the the moulding for the the
surround that the fascia surround actually has a has a
piece across it. So whereas the elites didn't

(28:45):
have a piece across it because they had a double gin unit to
start with with the graphic equaliser.
So this Elite just happened to still have that piece in.
So I grabbed that in case we want to do a bit of an upgrade
to the TR. Where?
They didn't just leave a hole init, David.
No, Yeah, that's right. That's right.
That was the we'll talk about that story in a little bit.

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That was the funniest thing I'veever seen.
That's that will make sense soon, everybody.
OK, OK, good. I'm glad about that.
OK. So, yeah, so that was good.
And then the Friday morning, actually, I went out and jumped
in the van, which had been threeweeks since it had been started,
and it was dead as a dodo. So I thought, oh, 4 1/2 years,

(29:28):
I'm sure we can just charge thisup.
So I had a couple of jobs to do and one of those involved
driving down to Hampton Park to pick something up.
So I drove down to Hampton Park,down the freeway, gave it a good
Fang relieve it, relieve it leftit running while I was at
Hampton Park back to Mount Waverley.
Turned it off, went to start again, absolutely nothing did as
a dodo again. So I jump started again.

(29:49):
Got it home rang the RACV on theway home.
Now I know I could have gone to my friends are super cheap or or
anywhere and but I thought Nah you know what you join these
this will work. What did you pay for your
battery? 40 bucks and in Lex yeah yeah
well the Patty of course I paid 10 times that for my battery cuz

(30:14):
it's a fill me in it's an. AG.
Which is a second language. Yeah, it's a stop start battery.
So they've got, they've got different cells and all
different. Okay, well now the guy explained
that to me. I just had three letters on it
which I thought was or somethinglike that.
It would be an AGM battery wherethe OR an EF.

(30:36):
I think they got it EFS batteries as well like the.
EFS, that was it. It started with E definitely
started. With E so, so yeah, they,
they're they're made for stop start, then they're made for a
lot more cranks and turnovers. Yeah, OK.
This one, it's for and a half years old.
It's not even working. Yeah.
There's a Car Talk top tip, ladies and gentlemen, if you car
has stop start, switch it off because you'll get a lot more

(30:58):
battery life and it's less pressure on your on, on your,
the rest of your components, youstart a motor, et cetera.
I hate it, I would always switch.
It off yeah, so for that reason and it will save you a lot of
money in the long run because they do they can last quite a
long time, but not as much when you stop studying all the time
because they they do burn out a lot quicker but yeah, but they

(31:18):
are also they also pretty much double the price of any other
battery so yeah they can be theycan.
Be Yeah. Well, I, you know, I figured,
yes, it's a, it's a Volkswagen, so it's going to be dearer, but
I didn't think it was going to be 450. $4.00 or wherever it
was. Anyway, it works fine.
Now that's interesting because you can, you can override the
stop start in the goal in the Caddy.
The only other car I've got withstop start is the N1.

(31:41):
But as soon as you take it out of eco mode, the stop start
disabled. So it doesn't spend a lot of
time in eco mode. That car not going to be an
issue, I don't think in that car, but but yeah, so the
Caddy's back and running like asit should.
But The funny thing was, of course, when it was dead and I
tried to start it, you got all these lights and I had, you

(32:01):
know, error warnings come up on this and something else.
The windows wouldn't go up. Look, wouldn't the, the one
touch function didn't work like the you had to inch them up and
all these things. And then I got into it when when
the I said, Oh no, there's all these warning lights on it.
The guy said start it and he said now turn the wheel all the
way to the left and then turn the wheel all the way to the

(32:24):
right. Yep, turn away all all like
black magic, you know, I mean, how can that?
Possible like reset something? Yeah, we, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then you said turn it off,
turn them all on. Everything was fine.
Everything. It was like a yeah reset sort of
motion or something, but Yep. I said correct, it was EFB

(32:44):
battery. EFB.
EFB. OK, OK.
But not. Yeah, which has nothing to do
with stop start. So I mean, it's not one of those
letters that's got an S in thereanywhere.
So just for good measure. So yeah, no, I mean that was I
haven't driven anything else I don't think.

(33:05):
Nice. Since that time I went to move
the Civic and I was reminded by the that I've got to take it
back to get the brakes, I think because it won't even roll in
the garage. So that's got to go back and
have the because I had a new wheel similar to put on it and
it won't it's dragging that jammed.
On. It is, it is.
I'm not happy about that. The only other thing I did get

(33:27):
to see the 94 accord the other day after it was in an
altercation with a rubbish. Truck.
Oh no. Yes, my well, my youngest son
had it was was driving it and loving it and went to a private
home that where he gets his haircut and came out and the side

(33:50):
behind the the driver's side guard behind the rear door was
caved in. Oh.
Jeez. So we was there.
A note on it. No, no, no, no.
But the, the rubbish truck had been up.
It was in a court, it was parkedin the bowl of a court.
He didn't notice it in the morning, but he wasn't looking
for it obviously either. But as soon as he walked up to
it after he came out. So he got onto the council and

(34:13):
they, they said, oh, we've got, we'll have the footage from the
camera from the from the truck, you know, and they said, they
said, oh, no, it wasn't us. So they've sent him a photo,
which I haven't seen yet becauseI only saw him again last night.
I haven't seen the photo yet, but I had a look at the damage.
It's yeah, it's a big, it's a nasty bit of damage on that rear

(34:35):
quarter. So if we can't prove who did it,
yeah, I don't know that it's going to be worth repairing.
Oh, David, half a million KS. Yeah, David, I know, I know, I
know. Send me a photo.
I will send you a photo I'll putin the chat.
You're too much work into that car.

(34:55):
We'll bring that back. Was it like punctured the metal
or something? David.
No, but it's, it's pushed it in far enough.
It's a double skin panel obviously just above the wheel
arch. Yeah, and it's pushed it in so
much that the the door doesn't shut.
Like it's, it's sort of pushed, pushed it in under where the
door shuts against it. So there's quite a gap now where

(35:15):
the door should shut. So the panel's really skewed out
of out of and of course it's high enough it could, it
obviously looks like, like a bump up from a truck.
You know, it's not, it's not down low on the door.
It's above the wheel arch. So anyway, so we'll, we'll keep
plugging away with that. But yeah, disappointing.

(35:39):
What does one do with that car? If you don't fix it, what do you
do with it? I don't know.
I don't know. Suggestions Give it away as a
raffle car maybe, maybe. And sadly the the I've got the
renewal to for the, I've had it a year now on club plates, so
I've got the renewal to be put in this week.
So I'll put it in. I'll still put it in, still

(36:01):
completely drivable, but it's just looking a bit like an old
truck. And because it's been left
outside and the pain in the bonnet's gone.
Yeah. I.
Was on the bonnet. Yeah, the it's the only paint
that it was starting to peel early on.
OK. And that's the only panel that's
been resprayed that it was when she hit the kangaroo.
So I mean, it's the local paint that's no good.

(36:23):
The rest of the paint's good. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah it.
Must be something with red Hondas and getting backed into
isn't that. Right.
I know. Yeah.
Awful Rob updates with you my friend.
Firstly, Scotty brought back some flashbacks on my BMW with
the fuel gauge not working and the abdominal.
You know, I swear if I hold yourdescribe in the D30, you know to

(36:46):
the table it's not working. Anyway, that's one thing.
We can use your card Dave for a variety bash car or something.
Maybe it's. Not a bad idea.
I'm clutching my pearls. Anyway.
It'll make it. It'll be it'll be one of the

(37:07):
cars that actually make the distance.
Yeah, it's done this thing. It's come this far.
Exactly. So after the picnic, your nephew
comes around, he goes, oh, you just do a few things to my
E4430. He got these wing mirror rubbers
because he wasn't happy. They're all sort of perished and
cracked on the A pillar between the mirror and the frame.

(37:27):
The A pillar, they're all cracked and they look pretty
crappy. You go.
So we had to take the mirrors off.
The rubbers weren't exactly the same.
So I had to modify the rubbers to fit onto the A pillar, put
the wing mirror back on, but then the spring basically went
loose, so the mirror flapped. It was floppy, so I had to pull
the actual part of the the coveroff the mirror, try to get the

(37:51):
spring back on and then try to screw it back onto the car.
But as you flex the mirror it actually broke the casting on
the mirror frame. Oh no.
So now it's really floppy, isn'tit?
Anyway, so I can fix this something else.
So I've got a, a self tapping tick screw and screwed that,

(38:13):
cleaned it up and got the got rid of the self tapping part of
it and then screwed it back in and put the spring back onto the
screw and everything holding back back on.
All right, so, so all the rubbers are back on, the mirrors
are back on. I said don't call me, here's
your car back. So fix that up.
What else do we do to the car? Oh, radio, Yeah.

(38:37):
So you bought a cheap Apple CarPlay radio off eBay for
$60.00 and I'll go, oh, this is going to be difficult to fit
because you've got to change theconnections, believe it or not,
Unplugged it, plugged straight in, everything worked with the
ignition straight away, everything was all working.
But soon as you turn the car on,everything turns off.
So something's wrong with the wiring.

(38:59):
I've got to find out. The ignition wire or something?
Isn't it? Isn't it?
Is it an autotor like like LMD users or?
Yeah, I don't know, but it's a good, it looks pretty good, but
everything connects real well. Yeah.
So it's all working. Yeah.
When it's on ignition, on, on, you know, on auxiliary, but soon
as you turn the ignition on and turn the car on it and yeah, so

(39:23):
I have to work out what's happening with that wire when it
goes to ignition. But then probably crossed or
something. Something's not right.
It did that pick up Harley's scarf.
You've got a detail today. So that was pretty good.
It come up real well. You see 63 you got a second.
It was only going to be sort of like a single stage polishing
clean up, but you end up doing it going a bit deeper and

(39:45):
getting out all the swirl Marks and all the scratches so that
the C63 come up real good. Now you can see the dents.
So I've got the dent guy coming around on Friday to fix the
little that it's got tiny 2 tinylittle dents where the seat belt
buckle must have flipped out on the.
Basically on the B pillow, if you want to call it on the coupe
and it sort of just left 2 little dints on the top of the

(40:05):
panel and you could you got to like go looking for it, but I
know it's there so I have to getrid of it.
Yeah, you got to do it. So did that.
So cars come up real well. I'm going to put the Mustang in
to get that also detailed because he does a pretty good
job. He cleans the wheels and
everything. You've got cleaned the steering
wheel. The Alcantara come up real good,

(40:25):
$400.00 wasn't overly expensive.It wasn't the cheapest diva
maybe. Can I talk top tip for Arcantara
steering wheels? Do you want one?
Yeah, absolutely. Diesole, a toothbrush and a
chamois like a. What bristle a bristle?
No, no diesole. Oh, diesole.

(40:46):
OK, yeah, diesole. A old toothbrush and a shammy.
Shammy. Yeah.
Very well, that's enough. Yeah.
Yeah. So that came up.
All right. So, yeah, so we're going to get
the dints taken out of the Z 36.There's one little dint on the
guard and then the three little dints on the C63.

(41:07):
So we'll get that sorted out. Apart from that, not much.
Oh, put my Ford Transit into Ford again.
You got it back. No, no, I got it back.
But I got it back instead of having the the real whining
noise at up between 110 and 90 and now it's between 80 and 70

(41:30):
and it's even worse than what itwas between 100 hundred.
And 10 What was the noise? What did they say?
It was the cause. The the Crown opinion, the
backlash did did it, but not machine right.
Something's not right there. So it's just making it like, you
know, a big bus when Vance sounds like a bus.
That's sort of bad. Yeah, so they're getting another

(41:50):
diff in for me, third one. So but they they came up to me,
you know, the real sort of defensive and I go, what's going
on here? You're the one who gave us a
real bad survey. Yeah, survey plots because can
you fix that up for us? I said.
Well, you guys. Did you fix my car for me?

(42:10):
My God damn transit and I'll give you a good.
Survey, I said if we work together and you get my car
fixed and you communicate what'sgoing on and make sure my car is
fixed properly the first time, I'll give you a good survey
result. What do they say to that?
He goes, all right, fair enough.You know, so they're pretty.
They're very nice to be after that.

(42:33):
How's the nerve to call you out though?
That's Oh yeah, that's pretty bad.
You must hit their KPI's. They must be based on bonuses if
they're if they hit the targets on these surveys, there's.
Plenty of. People.
I bet people would cave. In as well 00 OK, all right.
Yeah. I said you, you book my car and
get it all fixed and I'll fix itup for you.

(42:53):
Yeah, yeah. So that that's pretty much it.
So the car's going to go back ineventually, probably within the
next if. I don't know if they imported a
couple of extra diffs or whetherthey will have to wait now for
another one to come from Turkey.Jeez.
Yeah. I'll put a call in mate.

(43:13):
And please. Yeah.
So yeah, we'll see how the the third diff goes.
Hopefully it'll be better than the other the 1st 2 that's.
A joke The. The van the the loader that they
gave me was real good. It had no noise whatsoever, but
it was a front wheel drive. Yeah, that's probably reliant,
yeah. Could have ordered the pro wheel
drive transit. The reason why I was thinking

(43:36):
that if I was going to use it aslike which I am building it as a
camper van, what you can do. And I've seen some YouTube clips
where they've actually put a starter motor to the wheel to
make it all wheel drive to get them out of the snow when
they're stuck in snow and stuff like that all.
Right. So imagine that you can put some
gears in the back, put some starter motors to the back,
wheels off the axles and. If you.

(43:58):
Get If you get stuck in the mud or sand or whatever, you just
flip the starter motor and it pushes you through it's.
A Tesla. It's an absolute Tesla.
Basically, it's not that. How's that?
It's like a. Temporary all wheel drive.
Yeah, temporary all wheel drive only when you need it.
I like it, Rob. So.
Yeah, someone else has already done it in Russia, but hey, seem

(44:22):
done. Be there, Larder.
Most. Likely, yeah.
So yeah, that's pretty much it. No, that's good mate.
Updates with me. I spent a bit of time cleaning
the laser, getting ready to screw a picnic.
I then went to did a wrecker run.
I got, I managed to get a grill,which is, which is good.
You're getting that. So I, I, instead of costing me
online over $100, I got it for $20, which is pretty good.

(44:47):
I got some little bits and bobs and things here and there.
And then I, and then in this, inthe typhoon, it's, it's been
like this for years when on, on my younger years, when I was a
lot younger, I, you know, I liketo have my music loud.
And I blew out the subwoofer, the factory sub years ago.

(45:08):
And, and, but like, but I could live with it because like, Oh
yeah, I didn't, I didn't turn upas much anymore.
So anything under like 25, it was, it was fine.
Anything more pop, pop, pop, poppop.
So I had a fair line there and, and fair lines come with premium
sound. So I took the speakers and the
sub out of that, ditched out of the repository shop and popped

(45:28):
that into the, into the typhoon.And now that's perfect.
No more popping, no little things.
So just quick all done as I was putting it back together one of
the seat belt clips has snapped and I'm like great.
So I went to the records and gotanother one and that proceeded
to break as soon as the one I took that one out of as well.

(45:48):
It took me 6 attempts out of like 4 different cars and I
eventually got one good one, butI'm too afraid to put it in now
because you got to put it through the buckle of the, of
the, of the seat. And that's how they were all
snapping. So I'm like, how the hell did
they get them on there in the 1st place?
Like it, it makes no sense to me.
So I'm going to, I'm going to figure out how I want to do
that. Or I might just because it was

(46:10):
only one of the, one of the likethe clips of the one in mind
break. So it's a, it's a touch bit
loose. But I did, I did take the other
ones that I broke with me. So I might be able to make
something work by glueing something and I'm not taking it
off and just keeping it there. But I might have to speak to Mr
Prince about that. He'd he'd be the guy in the in
the know. You can't.
Tell. But are these plastic?
Yeah. Plastic.
So it's because they're old and brittle.

(46:30):
Correct. Yeah.
OK, Yeah. I mean, the car's 20 years old
now, 20 years old, so yeah, you'd expect.
What was that, Rob 3? D Print it.
Well, people do 3D printing, so I want to see how I go with
this. If it doesn't work, I'll just 3D
print one and pop it in. What else have I done?
But yeah, like it's still, it's still on the car.
It's just, it's just a touch. It's a little bit loose and then

(46:52):
you know me, I'm a bit of an anal person about my cars, so
I'm gonna have to get that sorted.
Find me a little bit. Just a little bit.
So yeah, that one's pretty much it for for my car updates.
Sakura Picnic Sunday. It was May the Fourth.
It was Star Wars Day, One guy dressed up in Star Wars
paraphernalia. That's why he was like that.

(47:14):
Yeah. Yeah.
I was like, OK, just like robes or something you'd.
Think the same thing. Did not put those.
Things together, do you think the same thing in the start?
But I was behind him in the sausage sizzle queue and I was
chatting and and he was saying how Oh yes.
And then I remembered on the invite, it did talk about,

(47:35):
because it was May the 4th, May the Fourth be with you.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And also with you and.
But I mean, turning up in a white Magna Alante dressed up in
that gear, I mean, I said, did you think the stormtrooper said,
look, I did think the stormtrooper.
I thought I would go down that path but he said the the outfit

(47:56):
was a lot, a lot dearer And he said and I said, but with your
hair mate and your beard you could totally rock that.
Oh yeah, yeah, he. Looked like a Roby, sort of a
guy, you know? Sure.
Like a Norse God or something. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I mean, you know, that's the the the here.
I got that vibe. So yeah, if.
Ever there was a stormtrooper car?
A white Atlante is it? Exactly right, all those angles

(48:19):
and bits and. Yeah, And, you know, just total
white hubcaps and white spoilers, and you could really
picture a Stormtrooper in that car.
Yeah. What would Chewbacca, Dr The.
Car from Dumb and Dumber. Dumb and Dumber.
Yeah, the man. Yeah, the dog.
Yeah. What about Darth Vader?

(48:42):
He'd have to be a black on black.
Yeah. He's a Buick Regal G&X in the,
which is that's, they call it the Darth Vader car for a
reason. Yeah, but yeah, Segura picnic.
So the day for me and and for probably half was on this
podcast began meeting up at Macca's and Heidelberg where I

(49:04):
drove in and I was shocked to see so many magnas there with
magnet. It was, it was this sort of
pandemonium was magnumonium, andthey were there everywhere.
Can I explain that? Can I explain that?
Absolutely the. The effervescent Andrew
Wrigglesworth, who we know is the the Magna Guru of Lovely.
Individual. He, he's also a member of the

(49:28):
Honda car club because they haveHonda HIV as well.
So he said, oh, I'm trying to get a few Magnus together for
the 40th anniversary in Victoriabecause, you know, not everyone
will probably be able to come toAdelaide Rah, rah, rah is I
said, well, you can join us at our meet up, you know, like
that'll be fine. Just at the magazine Heidelberg,
not realising that it's actuallynot a huge car park, but it's

(49:51):
quite a small car park. So yeah, I got there about
ordered tonight, put tonight I suppose.
And there was a couple of cars and then the Magnus just kept
rolling in. It was fabulous to see.
I think, I think the Hondas it was very close.
We picked up a few on the way onthe drive to the to the event

(50:11):
itself who were made us so the sort of near tribuni there.
But yeah, it was we were nearly outnumbered as far as the the
meet up. So yeah, but it was, it was
brilliant to see and there was areal camaraderie, I reckon.
And you know, Honda guys were talking the Magna guys and the
Magna guys were talking the Honda guys.

(50:32):
So it was good. It was a good meet up to begin
with. Racial stand off over a land war
or. Something, you know, like we're,
we're all. Up in these cars.
No, yeah, well, that's the thing.
And that's that that young Edward is, is one of the key
differences with that cohort, I reckon.
You know, like you wouldn't be getting certain European makes
or British makes that would feelthe same.

(50:54):
Same way about rival make sort of thing, yeah.
Correct. I think the only drama that
happened was they let a Ford in.Yeah, they.
Really, didn't they? Saw a topic guys.
The other person we picked up atthe start there was young
Giorgio from Sullivan Kerr, who was the guy that bought my Red
N1 And, you know, he he was going by himself and he said,

(51:18):
oh, you know, you know, it'd be great if we could go together.
I said, oh, McDonald's, you know, it'll be great.
And he did what he hadn't told me.
He told me that he had a surprise for me.
He'd actually had the M1 wrapped.
So it actually is now a Harlequin M1, like a Harlequin
golfer for polo of the 90s. I think they were 90s, early

(51:41):
2000s. So basically each panel has been
wrapped in one of four or five colours and the things bright
blue and bright green and brightred and bright yellow and
attracted a lot of attention. Yeah, it is quite distinctive
and the wheels on it are all different colours.

(52:01):
Yeah. As well.
Yeah, did you pick the car, the wheels wrong?
No, I didn't pay much attention to them.
Isuzu Piazza. Oh, don't.
Yeah, you are. That's.
What they were. Yeah.
Now that you mention it, that does sound very familiar, the
look at those. I saw those.
I'm like they're Piazza wheels. Like they're so distinct, like,

(52:23):
like they are just absolute. There's circles.
There's a couple of different things going on with those.
How random that someone would have a set of Piazza wheels
that. They would prevent it is more
random that someone actually still has a Piazza like that's
Yeah. What does?
That mean? What about that there's two
Aussie guys that wrote a book onthe search for the Holden

(52:44):
Piazza. I do have a copy somewhere that.
'D be a good read, yeah. No, that's not really.
They just talk about how they ate meat pies and drove around
looking for all the piazzas in Australia.
It's not exactly the best work of literature you've ever read.
It's. Not kind of win a Pulitzer
Prize. No Win a Pulitzer.
Prize, you know, but if you're into a quirky car things, why
not? Yeah, So, yeah, met up at the

(53:06):
Mac is Chad rocked up in the in the S13, Edward was there in the
Wasp, David was there in the N1 Rs.
Mr Rigglesworth came in the TR waggon.
It was just, it was just cars ofof all Magner and all Honda 2 NS
XS. It was, it was, it was a really

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eclectic car park, that's for sure.
It. Was in a Magna that you can't
get the opposite. No, you can.
But the variation of magnets is really cool, like all the
different models. And also, you know, there was
that purple fully wrapped one that was supercharged.
It was just like cool. It was really cool to say such

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different types of Magnus. I said to Andrew he was wanting
to arrange us all in in oldest to newest and I said no, no, I
do it by colour. Look at the colours you've got
here, which we didn't do becauseyou know, it all gets hard once
you're in there. But I said you know, you could
have gone burgundy. No black, then burgundy.
Then what was the next? The purple, I think, then the

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probably the yellow, the beige and then the light or the your
misty rose waggon David, then the yellow, then the beige.
Just say like you darkest to lightest.
Yeah, being quite a cool displaythat way anyway.
But you know, like it was just it was really cool to see like,
you know, I just want to give MrRiggs some credit, like one man

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mini Magnus. But he's also done like he's
he's quite literally single handedly saved.
Yeah, the Mitsubishi Magna. Where are you buying them?
Sorry. Working with Chad at the moment
for working on a deal in the background.
You know, it's, it's there's a yeah, there there is, there is
discussion, but well. That was the other car from my
car that that ties into that. I bought another one from the

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auctions a a Kianti red SE sedanin ATR 140 KS.
You know, quite a clean originalcar, but needs some cosmetic
love and you know, a few weekends on it.
I sold that to our friend Nick, who's known from the first Type
3 waggon and he's going to bringthat to Magna Fest.
So he now has a Magna Fest car as well.

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He didn't come on the weekend, but it's because it's not ready.
But you know, that's another oneto add to the pile.
Okay, so Scotty, Chad, Rob, comeon.
Well, Chad will have one by the end of this week, I would say.
Yeah, I reckon. He's he's, he's 90% there.
The seller's keen, the prize keen.
I'm just the middle man. So that leaves he, just he.

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Just wants his cut. Just just yeah.
What a good. Cut is I'll tell Tom to buy me a
sausage roll. Yeah, a good handshake.
Good. And then now we need Robin
Scott. Yeah.
Magna up, boys, Magna up. Well, so he's.
He's gonna run. Rob's looking.
I think I I think I saw that. Is that done 180K?

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That would be alright. 2K. No, but it's done 180.
I don't know how. Many KS it's done on it.
It was one my friend sent me, the done 180.
That was that colour, that shape5.
K. No, it's not that one.
Well, Rob did say he's coming, so that's yeah.
And also you got till October, you got a while.
Yeah, 8. $100. There you go.

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It's not an expensive. That sounds worth it for the
wheels. It's got the nice.
It's got the nice TR optional 15inch alloys.
Oh is it the the tear droppy ones?
Yeah, no, not the that's the TS.These are, these are sort of
chunkier. Oh OK in wheels but.
Yeah, I know those, yeah. Nice wheels.

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They're on my original waggon. I bought brand spankers.
I couldn't afford the 700 bucks.I could afford the 700 bucks for
the alloy wheels but not for theV6 engines.
How? Much more was the V6. 700 bucks.
Really. Is that all?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Why didn't people buy the V6
more? Online.
Online good. How?
Tight and magnifiers very. Very.

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It's. An opportunity cost you've got
to understand, you know? Believe that 700 was all it was
for the V6 over the four. Yeah.
Yeah, and you? Picked up you picked up lumber
support and better trim and all that I.
Mean 700 Why didn't you do that I.
Know, I know, I know. Did you think about doing the V6
at the time? I actually hadn't driven the V6.

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The four seemed fine. I thought we don't need a six.
We don't need a six. We don't need 6, which the
four's fine. We're going for an SV 21 Camry,
so we're getting a bigger engineA. 4 to a four.
Yeah, yeah. So anyway, I'm.
Really. I've got one now so it doesn't
matter. So yeah, the the Magnas were
were in full force, probably themost magnets ever seen ever in a

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in a, in a gathering the same place outside of a Mitsubishi
dealership and. In the 80s.
Then we drove in together. So yeah, we got in and obviously
they'd set us, they'd set us allup.
And then there's some great carsthat that we saw that we saw.
Scotty was there. Scotty got there earlier.
You got a really nice spot next to a Hakuska Skyline.

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So Scotty's car isn't a lot of photos.
He's. In a lot of photos.
And he'll just be like, you're raising the the boxy scarlet out
of it and keeping his one there.So that's, that was pretty good.
That was that was cool to say that had that had some really,
really interesting stuff. My my pick of the day was
obviously you know it was Besides, Scotty's car was
opposite Scotty's car underneaththe in the shade was a first Gen

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XA turbo. That was pretty cool.
Then in what I. Said Turbo.
Yeah, that was pretty. Cool.
Yeah, the 2 door, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
First Gen, super cool 80s dashboard we all we all like.
Agreed. I think with Scotty, you were
there and Chad, you were there. We were like the dash.
Are we all? Yeah.
Yeah, we're like, oh, that. Was a dash but to get a photo of
it? And then we went.
Then we saw we had a good, good look at David Prince's and Mr

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Andrew Wurth's TR waggon. To which the, to which point I
asked, you know, about the, the air con and stuff.
And then Rigglesworth's like, well, there's a lot of space
underneath the bonnet and, and he's like, oh, well, I'm like,
oh, you have to replace anythingfor the dash.
I believe that was the question I asked.
And he's like, no, it's just, it's just got a hole in the dash
to which we walked into the car and there's a giant hole in the

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dash where the air con, you know, switching button would be.
And I'm like, so they just quiteliterally didn't give you the
just gave you a hole in the dashboard, which just blew me
away. I was like, that is
unbelievable. Yeah, there was no and non air
con version climate control thatthey made.
So they just instead of making adifferent climate control, they

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just took the air con button outof it and you get you just got a
hole in the. Dash, which I've never I've
never seen before. Like usually they go like a
black blanking plate or or something.
Not no Mitsubishi. Yeah, like they just kept the
hole in. That even my civic has has no
air con and. Instead of yeah, I mean, yeah,
instead of like, it doesn't evenhave a blanking.

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It's like a moulded, oh, right, piece onto the like where the
button should be. It's just like this raised bit
of plastic that's like part of the actual climate control.
And civic would have been way cheaper than a Magda at the time
as well. Like what the hell are?
You sure it didn't have something and someone's pushed
it thinking it's got important and they've punched it into the

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maybe? I'm not convinced that it I.
Think that's more likely? Not something there, but it's
the I think it's literally the only TR I've ever seen without
air conditioning. Yeah, I don't think I've ever
seen a lot, especially like they've ordered the V6.
I'm assuming the power steering would have been extra or or.
Would have kind of that was partof the exact package.
Exactly. OK, yeah, power steer.
OK, so but they would they wouldhave ticked the V6 box tick and

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crossed the air con box. Well it's funny you said it
because when we bought Mum's waggon in 94 that was a 93 TRV 6
manual waggon, same as what you've got David that had air
con because the car existed and we bought it when it was one
year old. But Dad was literally about to
order a dark red waggon in with manual V6 with no air because I

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said at the time stupid me as a kid, I said mum never uses the
air like why pay more money for air just don't even you know.
And daddy was not fair enough. So he was about to order and I
said fair enough, let's just look in the trading post.
Even back then it was was the guru of the family as far as a
little bit ordered. So then I said.
No, let's look in the trading post to see what we can get.
And then I found the one year old TR for seven grand less than

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the new one was going to cost with air con with the body
colour bumpers that the first owner had done.
So it was a 12,000 KS like 1 year old car 12,000 K and you
save 7 grand and you get more. I was like this is a no brainer.
That's amazing. Which is what we got, but.
But like on that topic of Mitsubishi being tight ass or
whatever, in my Pagero has the exact same stereo in the GLX

(01:01:56):
which is my base model compared to the next one up the GLS.
Same stereo, same face, same buttons.
They get a stacker in the GLS. Mine doesn't have a stacker but
it it says multidisc on it so. When I bought it.
I put in a CD who I'm going to load all my favourites in.
No, you get one, the other five,it's just not there.

(01:02:21):
Same resident. Same stereo face and everything,
and it even says 6 disc whateverand you're like hang on a
minute. And I had to go on the forums to
work it out and the guys like Ohmy God, yeah, super tight ass.
They just don't give a team. That's awesome.
Rude, Very rude. So I thought so we we all had a
good chuckle at that. We looked at the wasp.

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The wasp was cool. Then we bumped into Robin Harley
and your and your nephew Rob, who it was there.
We took, we took the the obligatory Car Talk, you know,
team photo, which was which was good to see.
So, yeah, overall it was it was a pretty good day.
It was. It was actually nice to catch up
with everybody. Good to good to see someone
listening to the show. Jim, big shout out to you.

(01:03:02):
Yeah. Well, good to see.
Good to see. Listen to the show.
Good to see Adrian. Good to see all the crew there
It was. It was actually a nice.
It was. It was a nice day.
The weather held out really nicely.
Yeah. I thought it was quite, quite a
successful, successful, you know, day in, in, in tow now
the. Great.
The great thing for Jim on on Sunday too was that he he got to
drive Andrew's TM Elite. The Beautiful.

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Car. Yeah, fantastic car.
And I'm not sure that it was thefirst magnet he's driven, but he
certainly hasn't driven a lot ofthem.
And yeah, he just loved it, you know, It's fantastic.
That the seats in that are unbelievable, by the way,
they're so nice. And yeah, like that whole car
was, it's just a beautiful example.

(01:03:45):
It was, it was, you know, it's areally early cartoon, so it must
be one of the one of the first ones.
Yeah, but the pain's unbelievable on that.
So. All right, so let's talk about
our favourites from the show. Let's Yeah, for for me, it was
definitely was the extra turbo because I, you know, I, I grew
up, you know, thinking those were so cool.

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And so I really was happy to seeone of those, the TMR that was
parked next next to you. Edward was was pretty cool.
Well, like I was saying 1 of 20 and I didn't know, you know,
it's always a good learning thing.
These customers. I did not know what it was.
I knew it was A380 Mitsubishi. So the last thing I ever made
here, but I didn't know how it differed from a normal 380 and

(01:04:26):
that it was actually a Toyota. Sorry, not Toyota God, the
Mitsubishi rally art, you know, branded vehicle.
And then you know, I spoke to will about he told me all about
it. I'm like, whoa, this is, this is
an interesting car. And yeah, and the big chromy
wheels on it, I'm like, oh, surely they're not original.
Yes, they are. You know it's.

(01:04:48):
Yeah. It's a factory thing, so a rare
beast. So so picks the the best ones in
the highlight. We'll go with that.
I always. Struggle to remember them all.
Yeah, it was a lovely green brumby that the mighty Calm mod
guys had done, I think, and given away or something.
Yeah, that was there. I enjoyed looking at that.
There was a Sigma GSR waggon. Megan yeah, that was cool.

(01:05:11):
Yes. That was pretty original.
I I thought wow you don't see AGSR Sigma waggon every day.
What else did I like? A very original Corolla like Ake
20. I think it was like a little
cream coupe 1971 ish that was just pristine.

(01:05:31):
You know, the tools and the mat in the back and like the tyres
were cross plies. I think it like it.
It was very, very original car being restored, you know, partly
restored, but but still a very nice attention to detail on that
was very good. I've got to say a shout out to
Sam from the gang of Magnus thatcame with us.

(01:05:52):
He has a TR V6 sedan in Chianti red.
Oh, it's a beautiful car, it. It's literally showroom, you
know, that car, you know, since they were new.
I have never seen one that lookslike that.
Yeah. And I like, I thought the one I
just bought from the auctions and sold to Nick was was, you
know, like that's one 40K and oh, it's pretty tidy and that'll

(01:06:12):
clean up well. And then you see Sam's and
you're just like, holy shit, this thing's this thing is the
gloss on the paint. I don't know what he used on it,
but it it had that wet look and it just everywhere you looked
was was perfection. You just think you can't get any
better than this absolute grandpa spec.
And he was saying he bought it with 68 KS on it and it's now

(01:06:34):
done sort of 119. He's run it up to Bathurst and
back quite a lot. But yeah, given the the KS and
the years on it, you just think,wow, that thing's mint, mint,
mint. So is that your highlight?
That's that. Is one of the highlights until I
remember more cars that I walkedaround looking at.
I think mine that stood out the most was a 180SX.

(01:06:57):
Yeah, this one here it was a 2. Tone.
That was probably the cleanest 180 I've seen in a very long
time. Incredible.
Yeah. I mean, I don't remember the
last time I've I've seen one so,so clean and had all the little
rare bits and pieces added on. The on the body kit fitment of
the wheels was spawn. It just stood out so much.

(01:07:18):
It was a beautiful car. Yeah, it was such a good
example. Like everything was done so well
on it. It was.
Just yeah, not not Drift spec oranything.
It was proper like Street St Spec, something that you would
have seen, I'd say, back in the 90s.
Yeah, absolutely. Another shout out to A to a

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crown that was there that just, you know, looked like a nice old
crown, but it was packing an LS.Yeah, that was crazy, I saw.
That, yeah. Yeah.
Yeah, and it fitted in there like it was, it looked like it,
they've done such a nice job. And it was like a, it almost
looked factory because like, yeah, it looked like it could
have been like that from the factory.
It was just. It was.
That nice and live, Yeah, Yeah. So that was that was up there.

(01:08:02):
I really really liked that one and when it was leaving I heard
it idling. Sounds pretty tough.
Yeah, I see it sound sound good.Yeah, that sounded good.
And I was actually a bit of a fan of the Magna Elante, the
white one, The white one. Yeah, Yeah, I like the I like

(01:08:23):
the boxy look, but also how they've kind of sported it up
with the little add ONS, the little side skirts, the little
rear pods on the corners. And yeah, that's that's kind of
my pick. If I was to get a Magna, that
would be it, yeah. It was very, it was a very cool.
Yeah, that's that's my pick would be one of those.

(01:08:47):
Mine was this triple S. Yeah, that was a good that was.
183 triple S. Mate 1 I had one of those in red
and it was a fence magnet so every time we come around a
corner he'd run into a recyclingfence.
Barbed wire fence. Jeez.
He. Used to lose control.
Any any bitter rally we used to do, it would lose control, spin

(01:09:09):
out and hit a fence. Yeah, we used to do quite a bit
of rallying in it back in the 80s down the back paddocks,
which is an outer ring Rd. No, no way.
That would have been that would have been a really nice car back
then, Rob. That would have been, it would
have been still very, very new and well, not new new, but like
would have been quite a tiny little.

(01:09:29):
He's a little rough around. He just has beaten up a little
bit after hitting all these fences.
It's. Had it's time, yeah.
Yeah, they had a hard time. We actually hit a a farmer's
post down the old Sydenham Highway.
Sydenham Rd coming back from Calder Park one weekend.
Come up over a Crest and the carcrossed up.
Took that entire farm fence right down.

(01:09:54):
That poor farmer. They're all rotten.
There was no farms anymore back there.
They were just starting to put houses up around for some
reason. Always used to lose control of
that car. It's for some unknown reason.
Drive era. Drive era, bull tyres, all the
above. Probably, yeah.

(01:10:14):
But that was my, that was my favourite because it brings back
memories. Yeah.
Therefore is memories. Yeah.
Very nice. David Prince.
You see, that's the key, Rob. We're, we're at that age, aren't
we? We're the one car other than the
that I took a photo of was as itwas leaving was about a 73 two
40K coupe coupe yeah yeah with just had alloys.

(01:10:39):
It didn't have it wasn't trying to make it a pin Mari you know
GTR replica or anything. It was just plain not even
protection moulds. Nice alloys had a very period
pop up sunroof like a little glass pop up sunroof.
But yeah that was good. Still had the 240 KGL badges on
my best mates when when we got our licences.

(01:11:01):
Had a red coupe which was a lovely, lovely thing.
Still have the rust bubbles on the side till I.
Saw the rust bubbles on the sideas as it drove out they all.
Do they all I. Think I think that's pretty
standard with them. It's a faction unfortunately,
but that King's still probably worth 40 or 50 grand, so if only

(01:11:21):
you knew the cars to keep up, you couldn't give them away for
a while back. There was also the vicar at the
local church had a manual 77 four door I think like your
grandfather had a head. What colour was that?
Silver, silver, so that manual ones had like a the 70 sevens
had like a pressed steel rim rather than the hubcaps.

(01:11:43):
Yeah, my, my. Grandfather was his, was a 75
and that had the press deal, sort of black and grey wheel.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they came with AC2 pack and
I think the C2 pack was the autoand the cassette player.
My grandfather had a manual but he had an auto before that for
about a month. Hated it, swapped it the

(01:12:05):
dealership. For him, yeah.
So in 75, he was his last car and he didn't know that, I
suppose, but he probably thoughtthe idea.
But he he ordered an automatic because he'd never driven an
auto in his life. And the everyone he said, well,
you know, all his friends and family were like, I'll get an
auto getting all that very good.Now you know, you're old, you're
old, you want an auto, you want,it's easier, it's easy, all

(01:12:25):
this. And he, he really liked driving.
He, he, it's probably where I get it from.
And he, he bought the auto and I've got the log book that he
kept for the, the subsequent manual car, but it's also got
the auto car in it. So he writes the mileage and the
fuel and whatever it was about amonth, maybe a month and a half
and it stops. And then it said 240 KGL manual

(01:12:48):
I think. That.
That kept going and going for the for the rest of his days and
then my uncle took it over. Chaos to him, like saying yeah,
not doing this, yeah. Not for me.
So he drove us and it was a 5 speed too.
So he drove the 5 speed till he died.
But yeah, respect. He just, he, he'd always driven

(01:13:09):
manuals and he loved driving andit like, why would you do it to
yourself sort of thing? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The other car, two cars parked together and I took a photo of
was 2 CD. We do love a waggon now.
I'm a waggon guy as well, two CDaccord waggons packed together,

(01:13:29):
so the CD is mid 90, so that's the same shape as the red car
I've got, but in a waggon. So yeah.
Like the VCR 10 waggons? Yeah, they they're all built in
America, very expensive, new when they were here when new and
didn't sell a lot of them and a funny looking thing, but time's
been friendly to them I think. I think they look nicer now than

(01:13:50):
they than I remember. And seeing 2 together was pretty
rare. I haven't seen one for a long
time. Near the entrance was like 3
silicas that were there. Did you see like they're in
different colours, the blue, thered and the Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
They would they, they, they're very cool.
They're very cool. They, they just stayed.
They look, they look super 80s and, and I wanted to give, to
give that a shit. I was, I was going through the

(01:14:11):
photos, you know that from, fromwhat was there.
So that there was some really nice examples of all, all, all
sorts of cars there. But yeah, those three in
particular, they, they worked really nice as a set.
Yeah, I think, yeah, there's a couple of 80 sixes on like tow
trucks, yeah, as well, which I'mnot sure why, but I mean they're
called cars. Another interesting one was the

(01:14:34):
Corolla Cabrio, which you alwaysbought.
Yeah. Oh, really?
Yeah, so, so, so we want Chad's like I always bought this car
and like, well, I was like, wait, what?
And then? Red.
Car yeah, there's a red, red AE 92, I think 92, yeah, Corolla
sedan that had a cabrio conversion from the like the

(01:14:58):
back seat to the, you know, to the boot sort of thing.
And yeah, like I've seen that car a couple of times at the
show. And but I remember yeah, before
I saw the car out the show a couple of years ago, I saw it on
marketplace and I messaged the guy.
It was a lady. Sorry.
I messaged the lady and, you know, she was like, yes, you

(01:15:18):
know, I was like, I'm very interested it's very cool and I
want to come to check it out and.
And she gave me her address and then I was arranging a time to
like, you know, to take time offwork because I think it was
like, not Interstate, but it waslike a bit far away from
Melbourne. And, and yeah, all of a sudden

(01:15:40):
it just sold this guy who had itat the show bought it and yeah,
he just put a deposit down. And then, yeah, obviously that's
the key with the car for him. Yeah, without him seeing it.
And yeah, now he now he brings it to like to classic Japan and
Sakura picnic every time. He's a was a big turtle Nutter.
And yeah, it's super cool car. Glad, I was saying.

(01:16:01):
I'm glad that you can see, Yeah.Yeah, it's amazing.
Very special. Another 2 for me were the 323
familiars, the 22 wild ones. They're gorgeous examples.
Really, really clean cars. They come to pretty much most
shows, but they are always superduper clean.
Yeah, they're incredible. Yeah.
Which is which is always good tosee.

(01:16:22):
I was a big, big fan of those. But yeah, there was there was
quite a lot more 30 ones than I expected.
Scotty, like you, you blended right in there with your with
your 31 like you, you seem to you seem to fit.
It's a pretty good turn out. Well, yeah, absolutely.
Like that, the one for the fire brigade was pretty interesting.
That was, that was cool. Yeah.
So, so so the one from the fire that had all S was an SVD.

(01:16:46):
You know, it was pretty much AGDS it.
Was AGDS 2 so it had all that, all those the running gear from
the engine in it, so the cams had work and everything done to
it to make it that bit more powerful for the fire brigade.
And obviously a bit more powerful so like the stand ones
what 114 or 17 kilowatt they. 17.

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And these were 140. So that's just from head head
work and, and, and a tune really.
It's quite a bit of power just, you know, back in the 80s as
well, like, oh, maybe in the early 90s.
But but two like that was, you know, especially being in an
exec spec car as with all the power that that's pretty cool.
Yeah, that was cool to say. So there was that.

(01:17:31):
Just going going through a few more, the list that we saw
plenty of, plenty of Crusaders, RX Sevens and stuff.
I'm always a sucker for an RX7. There's like 1,000,000 Blaze
there in a row, you know? That's Scotty, Yeah.
And at the end, they all got together and did a nice little
photo shoot. That's good.
There was, yeah, there's just some really, really interesting
cars. A lot more Subarus than I
thought that would be because I don't know if you guys have

(01:17:52):
noticed as well, but like the Super guys, they don't really
show up to these shows like they're like and so.
Silver Vortex That was very original.
That was very original, yeah. There's been a guy there a few
times. Wasn't there?
Who's had a white vortex? You know, we've seen him a few
times, but I don't think I've ever seen that silver vortex.
No. And it was a manual whereas the

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I think the guy, the white guy one is an auto.
Yeah. I think he's got a couple
actually, and I think they're both autos.
For me that that light blue evo 6.
Yeah. With the with the white wheels,
I don't know if you can see it, but that's that one there.
That was a beautiful car. So I like I just was in order.

(01:18:34):
Every time I see that car, it's just, it's so good.
It's a gorgeous car that so there were some really, really
cool cars. Any other last ones before we
get to the car quiz, gentlemen? Yeah, I found this.
I I glanced at it, but I didn't know what it was.
And now that I look at it closerin photos, it's a Isuzu Gemini,

(01:18:55):
but like a early 90s one. I think that.
Yeah, yeah. That's the.
Japanese is a strange little coupe or the square boxy.
One, Yeah, it was like a it was just like, it's a sedan.
And now? They they will all drive turbo
as well, yeah. Which is such.
Oh, there you go. Wow, that's yeah, that was a
pretty special one. So it was that was pretty.
They were a pretty special car. Yeah, it was absolutely.

(01:19:15):
Do you? Remember seeing one Maddie at
the Fukuyama Clock and Motor Museum dude.
That was cool. That was very cool.
I wish. I wish Holden kept selling the
Gemini. Yeah, that would have been that
would have been, you know, instead we got other trash from
from Natty Rabbit. Got.
The cruise mate. The cruise Yeah, got the.
That was one car that was nice. There was the Suzuki Ignis Sport

(01:19:39):
Yellow, the original Ignis, which was the same as the Holden
Cruise. The Cruise was a rebadged Ignis
back in that very first Gen. So whenever anyone says Holden
cruise, I'm like, Oh yeah, is itthe good Holden cruise or?
The. Subsequent bad Holden cruise.
Well, as as David and I've said numerous times in this podcast,
that first cruise is the one to get if you want to dig this

(01:20:01):
because you got all that drive. It's it's the better car.
Actually, it's a. 100% better expect.
The three best cars was Scotty Skyline next to a GTR and a
240Z. Yeah, that was pretty cool.
It's a good liner. Yeah, it's like.
Every sort of generation of car was fantastic.
It was good. I was telling the boys when we

(01:20:22):
looked at the Ignis Sport, Anthony, Mr Turbo, Terry and I
always bought 1 to take two Nuggets because there was a blue
one. We said yeah, we'll, we'll buy
it. And well before we had to pick
it, I said this is how we ended up with the Paseo.
Before we ended up to pick it upthe day before we went like we
was, we were due to go pick it up.
The guy crashed. He stacked it into it.
He stacked it really badly. He's like, I'll still sell it to

(01:20:44):
you, but for half price. And we were like, you know, so
so then we ended up we're getting getting a Paseo.
But yeah, I always kind of likedthe the Ignis Sport.
It had the really cool fishnet stocking esque.
Yeah, yeah, I was wearing those on on Sunday.
Yeah, it's they're a cool car. They're really, really very.
Cool, Very, very cool guy. Kit, you'll get one of those.
Yeah, maybe you should. They're they're, they're a good

(01:21:06):
drive. They're fun.
I didn't, I didn't, I didn't have a close look at it, but in
the distance it looked pretty good, was the the IT must have
been wrapped the light blue FDRX7.
I did walk past that, Yep. The wide body thing, yeah, yeah,
that was pretty loud. I had a couple of spirit hours
there too, I think, Scotty, I think.

(01:21:26):
Yeah, Like they're yeah. There's that blue one, but.
Yeah, with the bonnet open, thatwas tough.
That was very plain. That's a that's a lot of money
these days for spirit hours. But beautiful things like
that's, yeah, that's one of my dream on my list of cars that I
know I want. But most likely we never get one
because I get divorced, but two,I will, you know, be broke for

(01:21:49):
the rest of my life. So.
So yeah, overall a good day. You know, everything went well
except for my entrance, but we'll cover that another another
day. And yeah g'day.
G'day all around, gentlemen. Looking forward to the next one.
Absolutely. Now it's time for the Cartel car
quiz, gentlemen. So you know the rules. 10
questions plus some bonus questions.
You can say, you can say that I'm just going to, I'm going on

(01:22:11):
my phone. So 10 questions plus some bonus
questions. I've also got some, I've got 2
at the end questions of two brochure questions at the end.
So we'll, we'll cover that very shortly.
Question #1 What does Ecotech stand for?
So Ecotech as in the Holden engine?
Eco. Edward.
Edward. Or it stands for Economy

(01:22:33):
technology. It doesn't.
I'll give you a .5 because the tech stands for technology.
I'll thank you. So much.
Give you a .5. So you've got that bit.
But but what does the eco Bitcoin?
I'll give you a hint. It's 3 words.
Oh, OK. So as I said, I said a few
episodes ago, I've been, I've been on a on a rabbit hole of

(01:22:57):
looking at these old videos, youknow these.
Yeah, yeah, the hole and stuff. So I, I, I, they, they were,
they were talking, talking this up like something special.
The Ecotech, it stands for No, no, no, no.
David. David.
Electronic controlled operation.Incorrect.
The like what you're thinking, but not quite.

(01:23:17):
OK, so we've still got Chad, Scuddy and Rob to go.
And his walk in the Black Forest.
Should I just guess the first letter or emissions?
Emissions is the first letter. Well done.
So Chad, I'll give you a .5 because.
What is that emissions? It's emissions blank, blank

(01:23:39):
technology. Message control optimization.
Well, you got the, you got the third word, Edward.
All right, I'll get another chunk of a point there.
Yeah, I'll give you .5. Yeah, all right.
So. But there's one more.
There's one more word. That's not control.
Not control, no. So Scotty and Rob still got a
chance. Crickets.

(01:24:03):
What do engines do? Oh, no, Scott.
Combustion. Oh, close, they also do
something else. Like crap.
What was that, Rob? Kill them, pop.
No, it's they consume so it's emissions.
Consumption optimization technology is what Ecotech
stands for, no? That's.

(01:24:24):
But see, that makes sense. That's a mouthful.
You don't consume emissions. No, it's silly.
And you don't optimise the consumption of the.
Yeah, it's yeah. I mean it's no VTEC now is a
David Prince, No question #2 Colin McRae, the famous rally
driver had a series of video games named after him on which
console did his first video. Chat chat Sega.

(01:24:47):
Master drive incorrect. Oh so.
Was it the first PlayStation? It was the first PlayStation.
Yeah, that's right, Scotty. Well done.
Quick bonus question, after he passed away tragically in the
helicopter crash, the games got renamed out of respect.
What did they get renamed to? I thought you were talking about
Shirley Strawn. Chad.

(01:25:08):
Chad. Is it dirt?
It is dirt. Well, no, no, they called it
dirt. That's it.
Yeah. Well done.
Score check, gentlemen. Edward on one, Chad 1.5.
Scotty on one. David and Rob yet to score.
Question #3 The Ford Capri was known as the what in the United
States of Freedom. David.
The Mercury Capri. The Mercury Capri is absolutely

(01:25:29):
correct. Weird.
Not to be confused with Mercor, which they sold as a Sierra XML
TI and Scorpio. Yeah.
Question #4 the Honda Integra issold in China yet again.
What is it based on this David? David could.
Be the civic. It is the Civic.
Yeah. Well done.
Whoa. That's weird.
It's basically the same thing, so.

(01:25:50):
It's a Civic, but it's just called a Honda.
Yeah, pretty much. It's what, Yeah, I, I was
looking it up and I was like, itlooks like a they.
Don't like the name Civic? It's it's probably too close to
CCP, so this. It's got two seasons.
Correct question #5 What Car succeeded the Holden Rodeo?

(01:26:11):
Ed. Ed.
Well, the Colorado. Is that your?
Hang on, I see red The Yeah, I think it was the Colorado.
Was the Colorado was its actual proper successor?
That's correct. Well done, Ed.
Well done, Ed. Were you going to say that,
David? No, I thought you I was going to
say the predecessor. I thought you said what preceded
not no, no what came after. Succeeded.

(01:26:32):
OK, bonus question, how many generations of the Redeiro did
they sell Redeiro name planted so I completely.
Ed I. Think David got it?
I yeah, I think, I think I heardDavid, just I don't.
David Fine. You didn't because I didn't say
my name. Oh.
OK, well, what's that? I heard David David too.

(01:26:53):
That's really weird. Well, Edward?
Well, wait a minute, she's not even talking.
Edward. Edward Go.
Alan would hate me. I'm counting, yeah.
Come on, Ed. Oh, she.
Knows. I think there were collusion.
Tech Talk. I think there were. 4.
That is incorrect. Edward, David.

(01:27:14):
David. Let me count.
He's doing an LM as well. Here we go.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah 5. Incorrect.
So Rob, Scotty and Chad still inthe game?
Chad, I'll guess 3. Three's correct, Chad.
Well done. They had many, they had many

(01:27:35):
facelifts in in each generation.Yeah, you're right.
In terms of generation, there was three question #6 the
Hyundai I30 replaced the one vehicle in Australia.
Chad, Chad the Elantra. Elantra is absolutely correct.
Chad, you're on fire. The score check.
Edward on 2, Chad on 3.5, Scotty1.

(01:27:56):
David to Robbie at the score. Come on, Rob, I need you on the
board here, man. A bit slow having dinner.
Question at #7 the mid. This is a bit quite funny
because the autocorrect changed my my word to veranda in inner
Mitsubishi veranda verada. Besides GTV like those limited

(01:28:22):
edition will spare edition ones,what was their highest level of
trim Ed Ed? Verada XI.
XI is correct, XIXI is correct. Yes, well done.
Question #8 what series of Toyota engines had their first
iteration of a twin camshot head?
So I'm after the generation, so you can you can say it like
it's. I know it codes.

(01:28:44):
A engine or an M engine, I'll take it in.
I'll take any any either of those.
I'll Rob. I'll.
Guess 3A. 3A is incorrect, David.
David 4A incorrect. Wasn't 4A.
Rob, you got the first, you got the first number right.
But I it will give it away if I tell you anything more, Chad.

(01:29:06):
I'll let you guys go. That's a guess.
I know what it is, I think. It's your guess, Chad.
Yeah, I don't know. No, I was going to say something
else, so I don't know. I was going to say 5 M but.
I'll give it to you. I'll give you .5 because I'll
give you, I'll give you a rob .5H.
It was the three M. 3M. Three M so point 5H. 3M.
So the the M series of engines. So I'll give you .5 H.

(01:29:28):
That was the first M series. Yep.
Yeah, interesting. Honest question, What Car did
that car come out and What Car did that engine come out in?
Ed. Ed.
Or a koala. Incorrect.
It's a David. David.
Is it the silica? Incorrect.
Rob. Rob.
Camry. Camry.

(01:29:49):
Incorrect. Scott.
Scott. Did it come out in the early
crowns? It it a version of it did, but
not not that's not when it firstcame out.
It wasn't the first car, OK? Chad.
Chad Proceda. Correct.
Damn 2000GT. Oh, what?
Yeah. Oh.
Really, that was a three. M Oh wow.

(01:30:10):
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(01:30:30):
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Ed OK, who was that this time? That was hard.
I heard, Ed, I heard. That I'll give it to Ed this
time. Ed, I think I did hear.
That too, I think I'll. Probably get it wrong.
I was gonna say Toyota Camry. Incorrect, David, you guessed.

(01:30:53):
I was gonna say the TR Magna. Incorrect.
Let's finish the question. Yeah, OK.
You can't rely on that Chad. You can't rely on that Chad.
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(01:31:59):
is drop orientated whilst whilst.
Listen to. I know it's, it's, I can't read
it. It's so, so tiny.
So it's a whole. It's loaded with smart thinking.
Loaded with smart thinking, it'sit's an.
It's a Holden, is it? Is that what we know?
Well, GM and GM. It is a Holden from the 90s,
I'll give you that. OK.
Well, how many are there like many mates like?

(01:32:22):
Computer trip computer. A Commodore add that might be a
Commodore. It is Commodore based.
Hold the Calais. Maybe it's.
A based. Yeah, it's a, it is the Vt
Calais when that first came. Oh, the Vt.
Calais. No one gets that.
Next one which is hopefully a bit easier to read because that
one I swear I looked at it earlier and it looked fine.

(01:32:42):
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This one be sure your contacts are in maybe?
There, this one. This one's a lot easier to read,
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(01:33:03):
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Far my guess of Honda Accord rings true.

(01:33:50):
It's very Honda record ish, but it's not at night your your way
is lit by two extremely bright main beams and two driving
lights that should That's a bit of a hint.
Fog lamps provide additional illumination in adverse weather
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(01:34:10):
New compact ABS gives reassuringcontrol on slippy roads and in
emergency brake situations. Optional on Essex.
David. ZR, David.
Toyota Celica. Toyota Celica is absolutely.
ZR ZR. Yeah.
And that is the car quiz 2. The 2.2 was should have been
100. .22 point 2. Sri to begin.

(01:34:35):
With. Yeah, yeah, also Sri 2.2 Sri.
Not to be confused with score check Rod .5.
Scotty won, David 3 and we've got a tie for first place.
I've just had Edwards on 3.5 apiece. 3.5 it's a verada engine
mate, it's. A Verada.

(01:34:56):
It's meant to be Ed. You want to battle it out or do
you want? To buy 2 point.
Chicks. Astron.
Astron. Astron.
Astron Astron Mate, my Verada motor trumps 2 point shigs.
So we've got a tie now. I'm happy to do the tie, a
tiebreaker or you guys can even at the points.

(01:35:18):
It's up to you. I'll give.
You a tiebreaker? We always want a tiebreaker.
Tiebreaker, All right. I don't want to lose the end of
that tiebreaker. It is.
All right, I was happy to go either way, just for the record.
I'm never. Happy, Chad.
I don't win that. Sounds sad.
I'm never happy, Chad. No, I'm happy.
I just don't. I don't like listening on a tie.

(01:35:40):
I'd rather lose than have a tie.He doesn't like losing.
He doesn't like losing. Let's just let's just fight it
out. If you win, that's great.
So the tiebreaker question is when did Holden release the
LS1V8 on which Commodore? Chad, Chad, the Vt Commodore and
you want a? Year I was hoping well, you're,

(01:36:01):
you're, you're almost correct with Vt, but it wasn't just AVT
or what I need a bit more than that.
Need a bit more than. AVT I need a bit more than Vt
because Vt it. There was a few iterations of
Vt. In fact, I'm giving you a hint
here. And I come in now well.
Well, you've given, did you say series one?
Yeah, it's incorrect, Chad. Oh, really?

(01:36:21):
It was the HSV. Incorrect.
It was the V it was the Vt series. 2 is when.
No way. So there was no V8 in Vt series?
It was. They still had the iron line.
No. The five litre.
That's crazy. So.
I think I'll give it to you, Chad, because you did get Vt and
that that is that's OK. I'm OK with that.

(01:36:43):
Edward, you OK with that? Yeah, I'm OK with that.
Well done. Game.
Well, yeah, she's shaking. Shaking.
Yeah, Yeah, Air shakes. Well.
Possibly your TS just went up. So, Chad, is anyone you want to
think? I'd like to thank Edward for
putting up such a good fight andletting me, you know, take the
reins, I guess. Absolutely I.
Think it's a podcast, gents. Yeah, good work.

(01:37:04):
Excellent work, man. It is.
Very good Scotty Doe. Gothic Week.
Tip of the week pretty easy one that I'm going to start for this
week is practise your short game.
Simple as that. Practise the short game I.
Think there's something in that for all of us?
I'm wearing shorts, does that count?

(01:37:25):
Why not just practise it? Perhaps as long as you practise
wearing your shorts, you're good.
Rob's doing it. Whatever you need.
Firefighting, electrical, neighbourhooding, punch ONS.
Punch ONS with. Yeah, he's doing it.
He's absolutely doing it. He's fixing side mirrors.
Fixing side mirrors. Chucking on mouldings?
Yep. All sorts.
There's your guide, Chad's delivering to a place near you,

(01:37:47):
Edward Bunting. Anything you want to plug today?
Bid on my Stevic at Grey's 92 GL.
Hatch it's it's swift. Yeah, auto swift, soon to be on
the road. Roadworthy gonna be about 4
grand. Yep, absolutely.
David Prince. Anything you want to plug?
Look, I'm evidently according tothe Magna chat that's been going
on during the podcast, I think plastics in everybody.

(01:38:10):
'S Magna chat going on. And it's going to to Magna 40,
so I'm going to be busy. Yep, absolutely.
Come to Magna 40. Yep, be there will be.
What's a bad Mitsubishi? Most.
PSX. Eclipse cross?
Eclipse cross. Yeah, that's bugging Hybrid.

(01:38:33):
That is a. Horrendous.
Yeah. Eclipse cross crap?
Yeah, I think. ASX is up there too.
Like that is a. That's a shocking bit.
Yeah, not good. Yeah, terrible.
Sold well for some reason it. It Yeah, yeah, kudos to them.
None of us on this podcast wouldprobably buy one, but we
probably all rented one when we've been in Cairns.
And that, that that thing's beenrunning now for 14 years, I

(01:38:56):
think. Yeah, since the first shape came
out. And they just keep redoing.
Actually, it's no longer available because it couldn't be
upgraded to the new rigs, new safety rigs.
So that's one of the cars that got cut, sadly.
But we can hear Hertz and Budgetabsolutely crying into their
pillows as we speak. Bloody safety.

(01:39:19):
That's the whole thing. I mean, I've had a couple of
people ask me recently about, you know, cars and they've said,
oh, but they're not safe. You know, they're not, they're
not allowed to sell them anymore.
I said they're perfectly safe. It's just they've moved the goal
posts. That's right.
Regulations, yeah, yeah, they'restill allowed to sell the stock
they've got in Australia and you'll get it discounted because
you know, they've got to clear it so.

(01:39:39):
So they keep moving the goal posts.
It's like I had this argument with someone the other day, you
know, I said, you know, a 1985 Mercedes S class meets not one
of the of the current goal posts.
You know, there's no, there's nolane change whatever.
But if you're slamming into a wall at 80 or 100 kilometres an
hour, I would rather be in that than in a a new ASX.

(01:40:01):
You know, like like yet it gets zero stars if it was put through
the current. You know, and not even an 80s
bends it. And like that one I had that S
class, the early 2000s S class, you know, one of the safest cars
in the world of its time, you know, engineering wise wouldn't
pass any of the current stuff. And you just go, well, it's kind
of they're they're they're focusing on the wrong things

(01:40:21):
here, I think. Yeah.
Because they're too busy concentrating on it, having lane
assist and stuff like that. That's, that's not a safety
thing. That's because you're not paying
attention. It's because we're getting done
with our phones. But it was just only saying
about the class because he remembers this is the Miller
family. The Miller family drove.
Yeah. Going up a Crest, that's a.

(01:40:42):
Brilliant ad. That's a good ad that is bad.
Have you guys ever seen that that Mercedes they.
They hit another car at the niece family.
It was they hit another car it like head on at 100.
The front of the car was absolutely mounted in the 80s S
class and the rest of it was completely intact.
You know, they all walked away and.
All the doors had been to think 2 doors but that's.

(01:41:03):
Just safety cell, you know, and they talked about it in the end,
they said in all there's 120 safety features built into every
Mercedes Benz. You know, the drivers pedals
dropped away from the feet, the pre tensioning seatbelts worked.
You know, the the passenger safety cell remaining intact,
the burst proof door locks, all of those things, you know, and
they they didn't they spooked about that stuff, but not like
now it's not like a little tick box that you've got to meet to

(01:41:25):
get a five star crash rating. You know, it was just built into
those cars, which is my point. You know that would not pass one
star in the current system, yet that is a very, very safe car.
Yeah. It's like they're, they're all
safety systems, but they don't tick the box for what you need
the status for. That's right.
Let's just say most people thesedays, they as soon as they're

(01:41:45):
hop in their car, they all that shit on noise and the beeps and
bongs and things. But also the cars are met.
The cars are built to meet the five star criteria, not
necessarily be a great safe car criteria that they're designing
them around the law. They're not just sitting out to
design a safe car, They're designing it to pass the star
test, you know, which is not thesame thing.

(01:42:06):
It feels like a whole other topic to.
Talk about Yeah, it's a whole other topic.
Yeah, like and share Facebook page.
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(01:42:28):
podcast. We are also on YouTube, so check
it out all the episodes on YouTube as well as our ASMR
videos and I'm going to start recording more next week.
So I'm bringing the MR2 home to do a recording of that that'll
be up on unless I'm going to do going to do a couple of your
cars to each other way. Yep, which would be which would
be a lot of fun and I think thatis pretty much it on my end.

(01:42:48):
Gentlemen, good to see you guys.Good to see you on the weekend
and I'll see you next time. Take it easy, see.
You bye.
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