The generations that destroyed a nameplate

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studio with Mr Alamdeep Singh. How are you, gentlemen?
Good. Thank you.
Happy to be here. Hello.
Thank you. Hello all.
How are you gentlemen? Let's crack on.
We're seeing how you guys. But first of all, I want to say
a big happy birthday to the one I only Scotty Doe Johnson, who
is not in the podcast. Yeah, it.
Is your It is your birthday, so happy birthday.

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Where is he? What's he, what?
What He's not. Here he's out for he's out for
dinner with his lovely. Partner, he can go out for
dinner any night of the week, you know?
Exactly, Scott. And this, this is only a Tuesday
night affair and you're not hereto defend yourself, so we're
going to rag. On you does that Can I be the
golf tip at the end? Yeah.
Well, we, we need the golf tip there.
Yeah. All right.
OK, OK. Maybe.

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I'm sure, I guess. Instead of Scotty's golf tip, it
would be Eddie's golf tip of theway.
And maybe I'm going to give a Skyline update as well in that.
And maybe it'll be a decent golftip for once.
Maybe you'll never want to miss the podcast again.
Bully the manager returning. Boys, Yeah, I listened to the
podcast last week, you guys. Well, well, well.

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And truly, that means me. He meets me.
To to you or Alan. To Scotty, OH.
Scotty, Yeah. Yeah, well, look, we love you,
Scotty. Happy birthday, mate.
Hopefully you're having a lovelydinner and will will will take
your your place for for for as our honorary Scotty for this for
this evening, which which I think.
I'll try and do it justice. He'll do it justice.

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OK, Very well. How are we going, guys?
Let's start with Chad. Chad updates with you, my
friend. Oh, updates, not a lot.
Just driving the Tarago, puttingsome kilometres on it.
Yeah, not much there. I obviously helped you last week
a little bit and I guess we'll get into that in your updates,
But no, just just enjoying driving while all the cars are

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working right now. So that's been good.
And the rago is doing well. The raga is really good, Yeah,
it's been, it's been eating up the kilometres like nothing.
Else. Yeah, man, perfect.
Yeah, good car, the Raga. Right.
We like a raga. Rob's also join us.
How are you, Rob? Good.
Thank you. How's everyone?
Very well. Hello, Rob.
Very well. Thank you.

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We're just getting the car update, so Chad's given us his
update with his lovely Rago. Any other updates Chad or that
or that? No, yeah, not nothing else.
I kind of, I guess there's a carupdate and I, you know, it's
driving related. I, I gave my wife a manual
driving lesson and she did really well.

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She, she did a lot of like, you know, slow, slow take offs and
didn't stall it as much as I, you know, expected.
So that was good. Excellent.
She did a bunch of going forwards and reversing and then
we went for a little, you know, 1st to 2nd gear action and
around the corner and stuff. So yeah, she, she, she, she did

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really well. So hopefully she'll want to have
another lesson. Going in.
It was the I30. I just thought it might be the
easiest car to you know, it'll it'll be the most comfortable
seating and steering wise. Otherwise all the other cars are
a bit silly. Yeah, if the Civic was like

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stock standard with a regular seat, I think that would be the
perfect car. But otherwise the I think is
quite sensitive in terms of the clutch release.
It's, I think you might have oneof those delay valves which a
lot of those new manual cars had.
So yeah, yeah. So you kind of like, it doesn't
give you a full feel of the the fiction point and all that

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stuff. So she struggled a little bit
with, you know, taking it off, just using the clutch without
any gas and stuff. So and then I, you know, slowly
introduced her to give it a little bit of gas.
And yeah, it's, that worked wellafter that.
But yeah, it was, it was good. She hopefully she enjoyed it
dude, she told me. At least she did so.

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Yeah, well, she did enjoy it when you when you had a gun,
when you had a gun to to the to her bag.
So you better bloody enjoy it. Yeah, well, you know, yeah,
she's in this life now, so. The danger with that is that the
the danger with with the learning in the I30 is she'll
get into any other manual on cargo.
This doesn't go as fast as as there must be something wrong

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with it. This doesn't snap, crackle and
pop when I come off the gas. I made sure that she was in
economy mode for the least amount of acceleration as
possible, but no, we're in a really quiet area of toddler
marine and there's nothing else around.
Yeah, nice. Yeah, no, it was good.
And that's that is all my updates.

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Well, when Steph drives the Fiesta, she always puts it in
sport mode. She doesn't more than me and I'm
like well at. Least someone's enjoying it,
buddy. Correct, correct, correct.
I, I, I will happily take that one on the chin that that's a
that's a good point. See I'm I'm looking forward to a
couple episodes down the road when Chad's like so anyone know

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a good clutch guy? Well, hey, actually we met one
last week. Remember Remember it was on the
podcast. We did.
We did. Yes, we did.
So it's a good timing I guess. Perfect timing.
Hey, you know, you came on the podcast and you did us a favour.
Now I need you to do me a favour.
Yeah, well, you know. Can you full cross up with a uni
clutch? Yeah.

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That's good man, that's good. Edward Bunting up updates with
you. Hello, What have I done?
What have I done? I've been enjoying driving the
Renault because it's back on theroad, you know, after I did the
break. So I took it up to the
Dandenongs on Saturday with a friend of mine and yeah, it's
running very nicely and it, it fitted in perfectly up there in

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the autumn colours of the hills.It sort of blended right in.
And she even picked up a leaf and and said I think that's
track yellow because I told you I was telling you and I said oh,
I think that's a bit light. Anyway, bugger me, she was
right. We got back in the can't, held
the leaf up, and it was exactly that.
But we're sitting in this cafe. I had to laugh because she was

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telling me this story and I'm like, uh huh.
And I sort of got a bit distracted at one point looking
out the window because a beautiful white TS Magna waggon
pulled in and it had the key drop alloys on it.
Which of course, our friend, or our new Magna friend Sam wants a
set of those, yes. So.
I was just sort of, I said, oh, I'm sorry, I'm just distracted

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by that, Magna. And I had to explain why and.
Then you ever thought you'd say you're?
The only person to ever say those words.
And I was, I was watching the guy come back to it and he was
sort of a long haired youngish guy and it had S Australian
plates on it. And I thought, oh, he's
obviously driven it over from SA.
And I thought, well, either maybe I'll try and buy the
wheels off him or just tell him to come to Magna Fest.
But but there was a long way around to get from where we were

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right around the outside of the building to where the the car
was visible. And I just like CPF.
You know what? I hear excuses, Edward.
That's that's cool. But on the way back from that,
we were just on a meandering bitof an adventure and we went to
this plant nursery that she likes and, and it was very good.
Actually, I liked it too. Anyway, we're coming back down
Canterbury Rd and I was like, oh, you know what's quite
nearby? A little bit of pick apart and

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she's like, well, pick apart andI'm like, well, you're about to
find out. So we, we go in and she's never
been into a wrecker in her life.Like this is very, you know,
this is very uncharted territoryof her.
But she was sort of intrigued. She says, Oh my God, look at
these cars. And she started taking photos of
these cars. That one's got no front and that

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one's got no this. And she was quite taken with the
destruction of it all. And, and I said, oh, this is the
European section and the full drives down the bottom.
And we had a had a bit of a tourof pick apart.
I got a floor mat. So I got the front left mat for
the Wasp, which means I now havea full set of mats for that car.
I think one of them's a slightlydifferent grey.

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But yeah, who's worried anyway? So yeah, that was a, that was a
fun little trip. I bought during the week a
Triton dual cab Ute or I picked it up.
I think I bought it last Wednesday.
So that was the year after the podcast.
So it's a dual cab, 07 manual 4 wheel drive with the big banger

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3.2 Pajero motor in it, which isthe good one to have, Not those
two point fours and two point fives.
So you know, like always, it's abit of a lottery.
I went to pick it up on Thursdaylunchtime and you know, it
looked clean enough and need to Polish and whatever the interior
is very good. And I was driving it out of

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there and it's like going through the driveline and I
went, yeah, something's not happy.
But then I thought, no, it's notdivision, it's not gearbox.
That all feels really good. It's it's something in the drive
shaft. And then I started Googling when
I got home and they're a two piece drive shaft with a instead
of bearing and a rubber like a donut thing.

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And they're all like, Yep, Triton Classic that that'll need
replacing. They're not expensive.
And I went out and crawled underit on the weekend and sure
enough, that rubber thing's destroyed.
So it's the Dr shafts aren't talking to each other as well as
they should. Yeah.
But other than that motorbox clutch air con cold, you know

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it's done 332,000 I think, but it's it's strong as an ox.
It feels fantastic to drive and the no smoke or anything it's
it's actually quieter than my pedge.
I reckon with less case, but so yeah, that will scrub up quite
nicely. And I'm thinking that will be

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bought probably by an old personfrom the country who knows what
it is with that motor. Or maybe like a 20 year old
tradie who wants to go full driving on the cheap.
Because you know, those things are sub 10 grand.
You know, not they they get quite a lot of utility for for
not a lot of money anyway, so that's my latest buy.

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Still got the Murky class, stillgot the.
What? What year is this trend?
07 that is. So it's the first shape that had
the sort of swoopy doors, you know, that new generation Triton
sort of thing. And is it a order?
And the series is ML, it's manual.

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Minus somebody interested will say.
Somebody wants it. OK, talk to me.
Yeah, so I'll book that in in the next.
I've had a looked at for roadworthy.
It needs a couple of things. Nothing crazy like front link
pins, couple of tie rod ends, I think the front left wheel
bearing they said on that drive shaft thing I mentioned.
Of course, other than that, pretty good.

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Like, you know, it wasn't wasn'tan insane list.
And I just thought if you, if you were really on the skin, you
know, and you just, you needed afull drive and a Citi car, you
could have my Swift and you could have that Triton, you
know, and you could spend like combined value of sort of like
10K. Edward Bouncing, the one stop

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shop for cars. We got everything.
You know, in tough economic times, like if things really
went bad for you, you could or you would just spend money.
You could just, you could just have those two cars and you
really couldn't go too wrong. You know, 10K for the pairs.
That's that's a that's. Not a bad garage.
What a bit of just buying a Vitara that does everything.

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That's a good point. Tara, I mean, it's not as you
can't tow as much with that as the U Yeah.
And it doesn't have a thing on the back, you know, you can't
put stuff in it like a U, Yeah. OK.
Is this $10,000 drive away no more to pay?
Is that is. That, yeah.
I mean, look, I think the Tritonis probably more like 8 1/2, you

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know? And the Swift is probably more
like 4, so maybe call it 12. 12 now maybe?
Maybe, maybe that's, you know, something like that.
You know, multiplied multi by discount or something.
Or maybe I'll. Maybe. 2 for one.
Maybe 20 grand and you get the E.
Class as well the. Ute car, the City car, The

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prestige car. That's it.
And you be stupid not to make that decision for the mic for
one car. Think about it, you could have.
Three that one for the. Kids so the Swift can be for the
kid and your dad Drive mute. Mum's got the E lovely.
Yeah. Yeah, it's a family pack.
It's a family affair. Pack.
Yeah, family pack. A good idea?
That's a good way of doing. It that's how we start selling
cars with family packs. What?

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You think about you go to a theme park, they've got a family
pass. You go have a family bucket.
You're. Onto.
Something here and. And what occasion do those cars
not cover? Like if you go to the theatre,
you take the Mercedes. If you're going on an Interstate
road trip, you know, to visit relatives in Sydney, Mercedes.
If you want to go camping, Triton.

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You want to go to the tip Triton.
You want to go full driving Triton.
Want to go to the train station?All right, take the Swift.
Train station swift or the kid takes the swift easy P play card
Economical everyone's going. Families are, I said.
You should really. Grant the lot.
Yeah, yeah. You should change your name to
Family Family Deal Motors. That's my latest.

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Nothing else crazy to report in the world of cars, I don't
think. David Prince updates with you.
I had AI actually found something of use in the gearbox
in the the in the car club gearbox, which is really good.
There's been a muffler kicking around there for years and years
and years and years. And I thought, wow, we had a big

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Chuck out. In the back of my mind, I
thought that was one of the things that went out because
it's been there for ages and no one wanted it.
The so the Civic Grand Prix edition has got a body kit on it
that was part of the the standard equipment at the time.
And all those sort of third Gen Civics actually had a twin pipe
muffler coming out the back bumper bar somewhere along the
line. Mine's been replaced with a

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single pipe muffler offset, so it never looked right.
So it bugged me every time I looked at the back of that car
and then a little light bulb went off in my head because it
was in having the brakes readjusted.
And I said to the guy, can you source a muffler for one of
these? And he's kicking around.
He used to be an exhaust guy. He said no, I don't think I'll
find anything for that. I thought hold that, hold the

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phone. And I was down that way, grabbed
it and it's now on the Grand Prix Civic.
So it only took about 6 years toto get in my head to do so.
That's good. I've got to pick that up
tomorrow night. That's all done bargain, bargain
price. Very good man at Burwood.
Burwood Automotive looked after that.

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He used to be he'd be a Berkeleyexhaust place and he's very clue
with the old exhaust systems. What else?
I was also in the Dandenongs on the weekend, Edward.
I could have could have flashed my I would have flashed my
lights at you had I seen you in a in the track yellow car, but I
was actually in my mother in law's cerulean blue jazz giving

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out a bit of a out a. Bit of a run a.
Bit of a pump through the mountains, yes.
I always pictured that car as yellow.
I don't know why I've always pictured that jazz as yellow,
but now I didn't realise it was blue.
Ah, yeah, yeah, a cerulean blue.Yep.
Great little car it was. It's such a sweet little car.
It's done about 120,000 KS I think, so quite low.
It's an O eight, I think, O seven O 8.

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But yeah, it doesn't get a lot of use, but, but it's been a
great reliable little car for it.
And Saturday the club had a run to the Fox Museum in Docklands
to see Lindsay Fox's collection of cars, which is pretty crazy.
You'd have to say the man has a very interesting collection of

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cars and so many of them just had such great provenance.
What was your favourite? Of the cars there, there was a
lovely gold pagoda. I did think of you, Edward, one
of his pagodas. Of course, there's a couple of
gold wings there. He had a lovely, actually, I've

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never been a huge Healy fan, buthe had a beautiful white and
blue 100 S Healy with Jack Brabham and Sterling Moss's
autograph in texter on the dashboard.
Wow. They're both driven that car.
So that's the sort of provenance.
He also had a Mercedes, a 1937, I think it was a 36 or 37.

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So just prior to the Second World War, right hand drive
Mercedes SSKI think it was called.
Yeah, 5500 SSKI think that's. The one built for the German.
The consulate in the UK only right hand drive one in the
world. Wow.

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And is has been valued at $12 million.
Oh my God. Decent.
The thing was nuts. Just extraordinary.
The detail and the the craftsmanship in the car was
just just amazing. So there were a lot of nice
cars, a lot of a lot of Porsches.
Now someone else commented that he hadn't been into Porsches as

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much. It was all Ferrari, you know, a
lot of Ferraris. He does have an Enzo in there,
which I think I remember hearingat the time absolutely outraged
a lot of the purists because it's Rosso Corso, obviously the
bright green colour, but he had the roof painted yellow like
like his Lynn Fox trucks. Yeah, that's cool.

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Just to just to make sure everybody knew who, who's and
that that was on display. That was pretty crazy.
But he's also got things like hehad a white LFA, Lexus LFA.
I sent a photo to Matthew, just like the one you carried around
in a huge box all of Japan. The he's got my car but in full

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scale. That's right, that's right.
The real thing. Just keep adding water to yours.
You'll see it'll. It'll grow.
But no, that was, that was a good outing.
I mean, I, I went probably 25 years ago and fabulous building
though. Beautiful, beautiful,
beautifully arranged and beautifully curated.

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He does have 3 hangers of cars at Essendon Airport.
So they do alternate a rhythm around a bit, twist them around
things like he's got one of those AMG ones as well.
But that's not that. That's wasn't on display while
we were there. So imagine having that car and
and that's not a prime on prime display, you know, on display.

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But so no, that was a good day. That was a good day.
What else? Oh, the the Magna Waggon has
safely ensconced in Horsham and there's a list of little, well,
you know, all maintenance sort of things that are going to be
done to that in preparation for Magna 40 coming up in October.
Yeah. So I think that's about it for

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now. Sounds good.
It's. Enough.
Rob, a pleasure with you. Got the Mustang detail by a
professional detailer. How's that?
The first time I've ever paid someone to detail my car.
Was it good or bad? It's better than what I could
have done, but I would have expected better from a

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professional detailer. How's that?
Wow. OK, yeah, I still saw found some
swirl marks where it's in the he's cleaned it up real well.
He's removed a lot of swirl marks.
But when you go to the door and you see the top of the the roof
line, you can still see some swirl marks certain daylight.
So. What colour is that car?
It's a grabber blue. OK.

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Yeah, so. But apart from that, it's
beautiful. It's great having a fresh car.
It's all clean. It's actually as far as I'm
concerned, it's probably better than what it was delivered from
the factory. Yeah.
Detailed. You know, I suppose anything can
be better than after it's been detailed by Ford A.
Ford, Yeah. Delivered by Ford, so got that

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so and now you can see as soon as you step in the car, your
carpets just get dirty so quick.So now you've got to tap it
straight away and that sort of stuff.
But it's all right. I I can put up with that.
So they've got the car detailed and it's still enjoying the car
worked a lot on the SEC over theweekend.
The the 380, the painter wants to pull it down to a point where

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he's going to spray the doors, the bonnet and and boot and all
that on on the racks. Flap.
Rather than on the car. So we've pulled the torto car
down, pretty much everything barthe two doors.
And I don't know how I'm going to do the doors.
So I don't want to. I'm dreading and I don't think
I'm going to do it. I'm not going to let him do it
because there's too many vacuum hoses and and electricals going

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through those big doors to starttrying to tear all that out
without breaking one of those vacuum hoses or something.
So we're going to have to find another way of doing it.
The doors, he's going to have todo it on in situ on the car
somehow. I'll take as many rubbers.
I've taken the door trim off andtackling all the trim around it
off, pulled all the seats out because he's going to get the
seats 3 trimmed. So yeah, the car's getting to a

(22:19):
point where it's actually getting work done to it, which
is. Good.
You know, I've been pushing him and pushing him, but he's
established enough now, he's gothis throw roof set up enough now
his work's settled. So now I could start
concentrating on my car, which is good.
So that does SCC. Not going into too much detail.
I had a lot of hassles with Victoria Pol over the weekend of

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a car that's got that was stolenand ended up on my dad's
premises legally and I was getting phone calls from Anne
hassled. I couldn't believe how many
phone calls so I got from a Victoria pole over a a a 5-6
hour period. I I spoke to three different
police stations trying to get tothe bottom of it and whatnot.

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And what I found was as cut a Long story short, my niece's ex
partner's car was left at me dad's place and he reported it
stolen once we moved it out of his driveway.
And he knew that because we toldhim.
Oh right, so so the car wasn't stolen and it was just reported
as stolen. Yeah, so I had to go through a

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lot of explaining to the police In what?
Occurred. So, yeah, so busy weekend, quite
a stressful weekend. Being accused of stealing a car,
Yeah, you know. But yeah, but the place the
Torquay police are better than Isuppose the sunshine, better

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than the Sunshine police or the Epping police that I've spoken
to, because I spoke to differentpolice stations right throughout
because it's involved in different people in different
places. And so at at the end of the end
of the day, it was more of a civil matter, you know, with
where the keys were and, and who's going to get the keys and
how they're going to hand over the car and everything else
because we thought it was going to be left there when they split

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up. Cut a Long story short, my dad
needed to do some work around the house.
The car got moved and yeah, so he wasn't where it was.
Thought to be. We didn't ask where it was, he
just reported the police as stolen.
Yeah. Yeah, so idiot.
So yeah, be careful when moving cars.
Make sure, yeah. So so we can add this to yours

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jobs. Rob's car theft.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Rob's car Relocating.
Relocating. Rob's car relocations from
allegedly. Allegedly.
Allegedly. Allegedly.
And Matt, it's time for the Scotty update.
Oh. Yes, updates with you Scotty.
Yeah, so it's been a busy week at school, but I did go out to

(24:57):
the Skyline and I just tried to get the AM radio part of the
radio working. And would you believe there's
only three AM presets, but 5 FM presets?
And I thought to myself, well, why would I only have 3:00 AM?

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So I spent an hour trying to work that out and yeah, they
still didn't work, so I just left that.
How's that that? Was pretty good.
That was pretty good it. Was like he was in the room.
It was like he was right there with us.
I'm never not going to be on this podcast again.
Happy birthday Scotty. Happy birthday Scotty, Happy

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birthday. Wait for the golf tip now.
Towards the end of the show, I'll updates with you.
For some unforeseen reasons, I had to take the D Max for its
recall appointment instead of myold man.
SO I snuck out of work, dropped it off, got somebody from work
to pick me up, you know you use my lunch break all day.

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Got the car back a couple hours later with a little bit of
paperwork indicating what had been done.
There were a couple of field campaigns on it to my surprise,
so one was obviously the little field pipe connecting with the
dipstick hose. They allegedly fixed that if it
need to be fixed, reflashing theECU.

(26:23):
They asked if I had my own custom tune on it and I was
like, no, yeah, this guy's very clearly stuck.
I wouldn't be coming back for, you know.
No, they want you to say yes so they can void your warranty.
Yeah, most likely. And the third one was uneven
tyre wear and it said vehicle not eligible.
So I asked the question. I said, hey, what's going on?
Why am I not eligible? They're like, well, you got new

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tyres. I said no shit, I got new tyres.
I'm like tyres I don't even really want.
I need the new tyres. So I said I want more
information about this because you can't just say feel cool,
not eligible for, you know, campaign and then send me on my
way that clearly, you know, I don't need some, you know, I
want a fair go. So I had they were a bit busy.

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They said they'd get the head service advisor or whatever to
call me back. And so I was on the way home
from work, got a call back from I forgot the lady's name at
Isuzu Essendon and she said. I think I feel like it'd be
Diane. Diane sounds like a lady that'll
be calling you back from, from like, yeah.

(27:31):
Let's find it. I might have it somewhere here
in my messages. Let's.
I'm gonna go with Michelle. Michelle Oh, that's a good one.
Yeah, yeah. I'm gonna go with Sue.
Sue. Sue for my Sue.
Sue. Nicely done.
Nicely done. I'm guessing we're all going to

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be wrong, aren't we Alan? Yeah, I'm not.
This is not the important part of this, no.
It was Caitlin, I think. Caitlin OK, that's.
Important. Yeah, we're all wrong.
We're all. Wrong.
It might be somebody else. We'll see.
So. Caitlin from Isusu.
Yeah. So basically called me kind of
discussed the, the whole recall thing and I said look, my tyres

(28:15):
were unevenly worn, the front ones basically the wires were
sticking out. So I had to go get new tyres.
So she said, well, to get Isuzu Australia involved, I have to
provide them with one, the proofof purchase of the tyres which I
have that's fine. The alignment sheet from when
the new tyres were put on. But most importantly, I don't

(28:35):
know how important it is. Photos of the old tyres, which
is what I don't have. That's.
Insane. That's true.
That's the part where I think, Idon't know, that's if that's the
hell they're going to die on, I'm going to at least provide
them with the rest of the information and see kind of
where it falls because basicallyI'll take the word for that.
They're not going to complete the field campaign.

(28:56):
If you know, I don't have the proof of the other tyres being
worn, but it'll happen to these tyres too.
How many A's on that car? I think it's just under 40,000.
Yeah, right. And the tyres were to bear wise
on the inside by 35,000 KS. I think that's a plan.
Wow. Yeah.

(29:17):
And if that's SUV tie, they lastlonger than that.
Yeah, yeah. So I, I'm yet to get all my
little paperwork together and send it through to Isuzu.
I'll send it through the dealership and they'll send it
to Isuzu for me. I'm sure the dealership will go
into that for me. But if they come back and say
you need photos of the ties and I'm like, which I don't have,
the ties have gone there and dumped me and like what I want

(29:38):
to do, I'll just say, look, that's fine.
But when these tyres were in thesame way, I will file a
Victorian consumer affairs complaint against you and then
request money for the old tyres and the new tyres because I will
like I'll, I'll bite the I'll take the hit on the actual tyres
as long as they then do whateverthey need to do repair wise to

(30:00):
make sure it doesn't happen again.
But if they put the repair contention on me having proof of
the tyres being worn out legally, which I can't provide,
at that point I'm like right, well where I'm at again, it'll
happen in another 35,000 KS, I don't care.
But then we're going on this merry go round properly.
You know, then you get John Kodaga involved.
Yeah, current affair. I'll be like I just want a fair

(30:21):
go 2 sets of ties in 70,000 case.
You'll be on with Tracy Grimshaw.
It's. The hard working fair Nick
Kamosi. The question about the long term
of this is like, is there no fixfor the uneven wear?
Is it just an inherent issue with the car that they can't?

(30:42):
Fix. So what I suspect is this is
we're in the well, there's already a semi recall for it,
right? There is some kind of fix
relating to the steering front steering system, but it's
probably expensive to the point where they only want to do it if
they really, really have to haveto.
Yeah, whereas a lot of people, especially if you've got your
bull bars and everything else and Isuzu is turning away anyway

(31:05):
because they're like, well, we never authorised this
modification, those people, yeah.
It's going to cause uneven wear,so if you have more weight and
all that, yeah. Yeah.
So they're getting aftermarket solutions.
So there is something I think mechanically in the works to
actually fix this issue. It's just whether or not Isuzu
will do it for me. Maybe it's time to get get the

(31:28):
hive involved in looking for D Max's that have bad tyres and
we'll then we can all take some photos of some bad tyres and if
they ever ask for it, you go here's my tyres and yeah that's
true I'm. Just gonna get somebody else to
send me some some weird ass pictures.
Seriously got on Reddit and likeand then I'm sure there's an eye

(31:49):
to zoo so I've Reddit and see ifsomeone will has already
uploaded photos and. What I'll do in case they do a
reverse image search, I'll just change the background and yeah,
do a bit of do it on my Photoshop and you sorted you
don't know what you to. Worry about yeah, change the XF
data like you're good, totally got.
You, yeah. Allegedly, allegedly, allegedly.

(32:10):
We would never do that. No one's no one from Isuzu is
listening. Turns out when the whole court
cases go on this, they bring up like this exhibit.
Yeah. They play this part.
Yeah, the video, the power I'm talking about, they play the
part. I admit there are now.
My client was on video talking about this.
Yeah. Well, it'll be like.

(32:31):
It'll be like. Stolen cars, impersonations and
fraudulent tyre replacement. And none of it you'd expect from
a northern suburbs based community.
Yeah, yeah. From an unmarked community radio
station building. This is what's been unfolded
here tonight. Oh.

(32:52):
God playing. I'm.
Walking to the DX like what do you want to say for yourself?
As I drive off I just rolled outmy window like I just want a
fair go. Here you go, here's a nice photo
of ultimate Tyre. Wear a nice zoo D Max.

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There you go there. You go.
Very bad. My tread pattern was a bit
different to that fact, so I'm sure we can find the stock tread
pattern pretty easily. We can.
We can do. That it's not hearing all that,
but that that was my adventure with the D Max.
So I'm. Oh, excellent.
Yeah, that'll do. Like I said, if I've got the

(33:34):
receipt of the new tyres, I've got the alignment sheet.
I feel like I didn't just get the tyres for the fun of it, you
know, I'm not that wealthy of a man that I can just buy new
tyres as a goof. Clearly something went wrong.
I'll accept that. They won't pay for the rear
tyres, That's fine. The reason didn't need it.
That's a shocker. Yeah.
So we'll, we'll see what happens.
It's it's a known issue that like, yeah, it's an, you know,

(33:55):
obviously the first time I've heard of, you know, Isuzu being
really stingy when it comes to this.
Yeah. So, you know, I think they need
to be held accountable. I remember there was a a family
that had, I think it's the MUX. I don't know if it might have.
Yeah, I think it's an MUX. They had a religiously serviced
at the Isuzu dealership. I think it's about 5000 KS out
of warranty or something and thefuel pump grenaded itself, which

(34:16):
caused downstream damage. Damage.
Yeah. And as soon as you just said no
man, we're not covering that area, which which again if you
go through that's crazy, your consumer advocates you've.
Got a Statue 3 won't you? Yeah, yeah, you would win that.
It's just as soon as you like to.
You know, make. The customer.
Yeah. Will the customer make you work
for it? Which, you know, they they
underestimate how petty a brown man.

(34:37):
And then all the suburbs can be so you.
Know. But see it, you say that, but
like, for example, like rememberthat guy with that modified 300
series where he chopped it and lifted it and put all this extra
stuff on it and he, and he was towing like a Brazilian tonne
caravan behind him and it blew up.
It was just, it died and he, andhe's like, he was the one.
I just want a fair guy. You know, I spent all this money

(34:59):
on this $300,000 car at that point, which all the
modifications and Toyota were like, no, because you, you've,
you've done, the car is completely, it looks completely
different, whereas yours is a different situation.
Yours is like a factory car. Exactly.
Yeah, so. I don't know, I think I talked
about it a while back, but like my sister's Hyundai I30 was
making horrible noises and you know, not not happy always

(35:23):
service to Hyundai, but well outof warranty, you know, like it's
a 2018, I think and what that's what 5-7 years old, so out of
warranty, but I think it was a five year warranty on it.
But they were fantastic. Took it to city Hyundai.
They were like, well, you've done everything right.
You've serviced it at Hyundai the whole time.
There's a known batch of of engines, rooted engines that

(35:47):
have ring wear and boss piston slap and all that sort of thing.
So it was a whole new bottom end.
And my brother in So I rang the guy and he was very good and he
complained it all and, and I said great.
And I and I was, I was like, they've done everything right.
Like, yeah, you know, there was you, you couldn't have been

(36:09):
happier with it. And two weeks later the car was
back, brand new engine. I said, you'll just have to ring
Vicroads and give them the new block number, new engine number,
which the the dealer had highlighted, you know, on the
paperwork. This this is your new engine
number. I was like, well basically you
got a brand new engine even though you've done 80,000 K and
and you know, no whinging from the manufacturer, unheard of.
Yeah, pretty good. Pretty good.

(36:30):
Pretty good. The other bad thing with that
was I drove it at Christmas. It feels a bit down on power.
It's making a bit of a noise. And I, I gave it a good clean at
Christmas time and took it out for a Fang to to see what he's
talking about. And I brought it back, said no,
it's fine, nothing wrong with that.
As it turned out, there was something wrong with that.
But I need to go. Why could I suzu in?

(36:50):
Yeah, I should. But you'll be right.
That's fine. Yeah.
So it's within spec as I say I. I I mean, I didn't pull the
dipstick on it. I probably should have, but
yeah, you. Know after like you got 35 whole
thousand KS out of your tyres, people losing about 10, you're
lucky. Stars, Sir, get a bargain.

(37:12):
So. So that's your updates, Helen.
Yes, indeed. Updates with me.
I'll get through it really quickly because there's only one
car kind of it updates on was the Forester.
Now Stephanie had family coming from Adelaide and and she's
like, look, I want to put the the shocks had had it like they
were they were they were done. She's like, can we please just

(37:33):
get the shocks done before they get out?
I'm like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.I put it off long enough and
then I had to have it done. So then I, I got a set of Pettas
shocks and springs for it, whichI got second hand with only
30,000 K on them. And I and Chad, I enlisted the
help of 1 Chad de Bell and he was like, yeah man, I'm coming

(37:53):
to help. You know, Steph made him dinner
and that was that was, you know,it was, I think you enjoyed
dinner. Was it Chad that?
Was really good. Yeah, it was delicious.
So Chad and I were working away on putting the suspension in the
car. And as soon as we had put it in
that that quite literally the last, the last strut in, we

(38:13):
looked underneath the car and there's just a puddle of of
fluid everywhere. And I'm just like, Oh no, this
is. That's not from the shocks.
No, well, it was so on the frontdriver's side when, when we, you
know, moved the hub out of the way to put the strut in, it's
kind of pulled out the, the, thedrive shaft and we and we hadn't

(38:36):
realised that it's pulled it outand it's just pissed out all
it's fluid. None of us saw it.
We we both didn't see it. It wasn't leaking until we, you
know, started on the front rightand then we worked all the way
around and then we ended up in the front left and then looking
after that. And also the car was, you know,

(38:57):
tipped over to the other side aswell.
So it was just, it was just leaking all of it out.
So I. Was about to say Chad, I'll buy
you dinner, come and help me do the front end of the Wasp, but
now? Now look, I always said I'm glad
no one pays me to work on their cars.
Yeah, I can't provide a warranty.

(39:20):
Well, Chad, we did a good job like so I was OK and to get to
that point, I'll explain in a second.
But like we I'm like, Oh no, this, this cannot be happening.
Like the car needs to be done for tomorrow.
This is they were coming on the Thursday.
This is Wednesday night. I'm, you know, freaking out.
I'm like, oh, man, this is, it'sthat's it, you know, it's all

(39:41):
over. You know, I'm not going to get
it done. I kind of crawl in and stuff's
like, how'd you go with the car?And I'm like, yeah, yeah, about
that. And she's like, no, like she's
like this needed to happen. I'm like, I know I will sort
something out, don't worry. So I call.
The cars, does it give her the laser or something?

(40:01):
The issue is the issue is if they got two kids, baby chairs,
a whole bunch of whole boot loadof luggage, whole family, whole
family and bit small for the layers like like it'll, it'll
work, but it it'll be it'll be atight fit.
So I'll make a call to Sebastianat Goodyear and I'm like, hey,
this is what's happened. He's like, just bring the car,

(40:23):
get it towed in and I'll I'll have it done by the end of the
day. Anyway, I got to pick it up.
And so, so anyway, I'm like, what time will it be done?
He's like going to be done about5:00.
I'm like, I got to pick them up from the airport at 4:00.
So I had to, I had to go to my to my mom's place, pick up the
XR8 because it's a full size sedan, go pick them up from the
airport and then and XR8, you know, plenty of space fit

(40:46):
everything in there. Drove quite literally drove that
to, to, to the mechanic. I'm like, we got to stop before
I drove you guys to the hotel pick.
Up your hire car. To pick up the hire car
essentially. And, you know, Sebastian was
like, the only issue was you just moved it out.
Not yeah. And you didn't.
And he's like, it's very easy todo because, like, you don't
really, you know, you couldn't tell at time.

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So he popped it in, refilled it with fluid, and we got it back
and crisis averted. But that was a bit of a like,
oh, man. Like Steph asked me to do one
job and I couldn't even. I couldn't even finish the job
though. Like, it's quite, you know,
redoing the suspension is quite a big job.
Well, it was just. Yeah.
Just not like change the wiper blades that's it's quite serious
mechanical work. How do you?

(41:30):
Tell you why. Afterwards.
Oh, beautiful. Yeah.
Like it's, I mean, it's, it's ona lowered Pettis shock and a
Pettis spring. So like it's their lowered
package. So it's a little bit higher than
I was with the coilovers, but itjust it rides beautifully now.
It just swaffed over everything and Steph's like, Oh my God, why
didn't we do this sooner? Our.
Forest meant to ride. Our forest meant to ride.
Yeah, and we soon found out why I was riding so bad, didn't we,

(41:53):
Chad? There was quite literally no
bump stops. Left.
Yeah, yeah, all the bump stops and the pillow ball mounts on
the on the top hats were just shagged like it was nothing left
basically. So yeah, so Stephanie's very,
very, very happy with the car. And I'm like, it's good.
Crisis averted. Yeah.
You know, I could breathe easy. I was, I was having a very

(42:14):
stressful day Thursday. I'm like, I'm like, it's just
not going to get done. Like there's they're not going
to be able to fix it in time. But the XRI came to the rescue
and then the foresters all good.Happy days with happy forest
during as as I would say. I've shaft popped back in
Maddie. Is it like something that just
like if it pops out, surely popped back in easy enough too?
Well, we tried, didn't we Chad? Like we took, we took the wheel

(42:36):
off and it just would not budget.
Like we're trying to push the whole strut assembly back in.
I couldn't do it like what is going on?
So they had to. They had to loosen everything
and then realise it. Yeah, I think it was a matter of
you had to disassemble basicallyeverything away from the hub so
that you could push it back in. But this was midnight, like this

(42:56):
was midnight on the Wednesday. By the time we realised we we'd
really stuffed it and we just couldn't do it like we could we,
we would have had to been there another couple of hours and
having to use power tools at notthat time as well.
So it just wasn't doable. So yeah, we just, but yeah,
it's, it's one of those weird things where when you took all

(43:18):
the suspension out of the front,all that's really holding is the
drive shaft. And, and because the hub is so
heavy, it's like it's as soon asit like falls away from the car,
it's just pulls the driveway outthe drive shaft out.
So it was, I mean, we've just learned something basically on
Foresters Don't, don't let the hub flop around and pull the

(43:41):
drive shaft down South. So Car Talk, top tips, support
your hubs, support your hubs. Yeah, absolutely.
I think we've learned. I think we learned that the hard
way to live. Time up.
Time up yeah correct yeah just just just just hold everything
support it don't let it drop drop down, but I'm oh it drives
great like I'm I'm sorry I'm so pleased with how it drives.
You know it's it's I mean it's got really thick sway bars on

(44:03):
there anyway, so there's really largely no body roller.
It handles really well with withthis with the pet is lower
suspension setup, which was quite an expensive set up that
the guy paid for and I got it for a bit of a bit of a steal,
which I was quite happy with Facebook marketplace the place
to be that is it for my updates.All right so topic for tonight

(44:25):
is gentlemen cars that were sales success and then faded
failed well faded into an existence like that that now
just just went off and you know that was so good and then all of
a sudden was so bad. Well, not bad, but like just
disappeared disappeared irrelevant and I got thinking
about this topic because I was driving behind an accord euro

(44:46):
the other day and I'm like they sold buckets as a first Gen euro
they sold bucket loads of them like they couldn't they couldn't
tell them enough. I don't think David I think it
was probably it was Honda's mostlike sale time in in Australia
at that. Point.
I think that from, from my research for this, the second
Gen was a still a good car. Didn't sell it as well.
I didn't think it was as good looking as the, the first guy's

(45:08):
a very handsome car. And I think the first guy's aged
better. But then they didn't do a year
after that. And now they sell one accord a
year. I'm in Australia.
So, you know, it got me thinking, I'm like, what
happened to all these, these great, you know, these great
cars that had just, you know, they were, they were selling
safely with a liberty after, after the Gen 4 liberty, which
is a beautifully handsome, handsomely stolen car.

(45:30):
They had the that kind of fatter, you know, bigger
liberty. They even did an Xesia version
of it. And then that the liberty was a
shadow of itself. Like there were so many cars
that, you know, that were reallygood and really popular.
And all of a sudden, so it's like it's like a light switch
went off and they just kind of faded off into existence.
I wanted to get your opinion on which cars have has that
happened too? And why do you think it's

(45:51):
happened to those specific cars?So we'll start with the euro
anyway. The second Gen euro was still
something quite well I think David when when they pulled the
pin, did they give an exact reason as to why they pulled the
pin on the on the on the euro? As I understand, they, because
that was sourced from Japan, they stopped making them number

(46:12):
one. Yeah, they continued with a, a
refreshed model into the, I think it was, I think the Euro
won Car of the year in about 2009, I think.
Yep. About that.
So that would have gone through for four years.
So, yeah, yeah, early, early 20 teens, they went to a larger car

(46:36):
again. And I, I think, I think there'll
be a lot of these, these cars. It's just the inevitable creep
in size. I think of the cars, I mean, the
Civic really filled the space. Well, the current Civics are
bigger than the the first Gen EUR.
I mean, they're, they're much bigger cars.
So it's just that the every generation you look at Corolla,

(46:56):
where Corollas have gone from the first car through to the,
the current shape, they've done the same thing.
But the, I think the main reasonis the size.
There was a whole thing. Australia was the only market
that we had both Accords, the American or the Thai built one,
which was for America and the, and the Japanese built one.
That's why it was called Euro because it was considered more

(47:18):
of a driver's car in the first shape.
And then the quite unkindly, I think they referred to the
American design one as the home accord in a in a in not a very
unobscure Simpsons reference. Was there a price point issue?
Like was there price creep with those model changes where it got

(47:41):
to a point where while you're going to go for a car that's
more competitive, a bit smaller,a bit cheaper, like it's it's a
better value for what it is and it's in a similar.
Yeah, well, I, I think you're right.
A case in point, in 2008 we bought a, a new, we were
looking, we were looking at updating, getting out of

(48:02):
Odysseys. Our kids had licences, so we
didn't need need a A7 seater anymore.
And we were looking at a Euro. But we actually bought a Civic
Sport, which basically had an FDCivic sport sedan.
So it was the still the Thai built car, but it it had a lot
more safety gear than the the lowest spec cars and as much
room inside as as the as the CL 9.

(48:25):
I call it the first Gen Euro andit was cheaper.
So yeah, we thought, well, there's not a lot of point in in
buying the bigger car when the smaller car's got as much room
inside and and does everything else.
So that's the reason why, well, OK, so in America they, they did
sell the, the euro as the RSX, right, the the Acura RSX.

(48:47):
Acura, Sure. Yeah, sure.
Yeah, yeah, sure. Yeah.
So, so they're a market that hadboth, both vehicles.
Yeah, I mean batched as Honda. Honda.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so you had the Honda and
you had the the, yeah, the Acura.
But it's just a shame because like, it was I I remember them.
They were everywhere. And and they still are, but in a
lot of parts. You still, you still go to a car

(49:07):
park. They still around most of them.
Yeah, because they're they're. They're pretty under plus.
Like they're a very good thing. So that's no surprise that that
that they're still around. So that was the demise of the
euro. What are the cars were were
everywhere and like, you know, and then they, you know,
superseded it and then it just kind of faded, faded away into
existence. And for me, another one is the

(49:28):
Hyundai XL. Like they were everywhere.
They were Australia's best selling car at one point of
time. And then they then they didn't
do an excel. They they went to an accent or
accent or however you want to say it.
And then it just wasn't it was just was never the same.
It was never the sales success as a as a 13990 no more and no
more to pay drug way. I don't want to pay Hyundai
excel. You know, that that for me was

(49:49):
just like, why did they not offer another excel like that?
Just I mean, from all accounts, from my research was the the
Excel was was essentially the the ascent.
That's what's what that's what it morphed into, but it just
didn't have the same. Well, I, I, I don't know if that
was because of the name change, but it, it never had the same,
you know, you know, pinache and,and kind of cutie factor and,

(50:13):
and Oh yeah, it's a nugget car like like the bit.
Like the Exceldeer and Teter. Teter, yeah, for a long, long
time. And they always told, well, they
were, they were never probably the number one seller, but they
were certainly a a strong runnerup.
And then it went to Teter and just, you know.

(50:33):
I think changing that the name you know, mid rail or or mid
generation is, is not a good thing.
I was going to say because, you know, pure the markers, the
theatre was called the the Pulsar and that was going to be
my next question to you guys. Do you think that the name
change affected it? So I say if if the if the accent

(50:55):
was going to be called the the Excel, do you reckon it would
have still had the same? Oh yeah, it's it's an excel.
Just go by a new Excel. Like do you reckon it was to
carry that that kind of that kind of name plate, but it.
Would have helped, particularly when it was it was a very well
liked name. It wasn't.
It didn't have a bad name it. Didn't have a bad reliable car.
Neither did Pulsar so that I think it really hurt.

(51:16):
Both probably there. Was a lot of hesitation in
buying and Hyundai Excel if you can avoid it.
Well, at the start in the, in the, in the like the late 80,
early 90s, they, they weren't very, you know.
Yeah, in the Korean rush. Maybe, yeah, but also I don't
think there was ever a time where somebody proudly an owner
behind Excel. My uncle was a proud owner of
OHH. You know I disagree, Alan.

(51:38):
GLX, thank you very much. Maybe I'm particularly proud,
but there was something about itbeing the cheapest car you could
buy, so it was like a very it's accessible way to get into a
new. Car a new.
Transport. Brand new?
Yeah, it was the new car factor.Indy Paxton had one.

(52:00):
I've got another one for you there, Maddie.
It's the, it's the gets. Yeah.
Yes, yes. I mean, I think maybe
essentially the Excel almost passed on to become a GET, but
you know. Hatchback.
Whereas the extent was like the next size up or something.
The getz's are still everywhere.They are.

(52:21):
They are, but they're not around.
They're like they they don't sell them anymore.
Yeah, and maybe the I30 is the new Getz or you know what it
was. The I-20 was supposed to take
over the Gatsby I-20 was Oh yeah, that's true.
Never the car the the the the gets, the gets was such a
better, it was a better built car and and it was a better, you
know, a better driving car and Ithink.
The built side, it was everywhere.

(52:43):
Yeah, and like, there's still somany gets.
Were the were the I 20s made overseeing Europe?
They might have been a Turkish built car.
Yeah, I had a feeling that my Gitz's were certainly Korean and
I think the the I 20s came from.Yeah.
Oh, you say Turkey. I thought it was Slovenia, but.
The I Tony gave me tinnitus worse than I've ever had.

(53:05):
The I20. Yeah, tinnitus.
I've never had. I've told this story before when
I was on holiday in Tasmania fora week.
I've rented 1 and I had the worst ringing in my ears of my
life, so much so that I was basically deaf for a week.
I could not hear. Because why?
The road noise from that I-20 onwhatever tarmac they use in

(53:28):
Tassie was horrendous. And I thought to myself, this is
not like I've spent my life and still do driving inappropriate
cars long distances, you know, and most of them very old.
Business card, shouldn't it? Oh yeah, basically old cars that
are not suitable for what I'm doing.
And I've never had an issue. I drove a Honda City 3/4 of the

(53:51):
way around Australia, you know, didn't, didn't bat an eyelid,
but this stupid I-20, I was like, whatever resonance
happened, you know, I was like, I was dead for a week.
Anyway, there you go. Very.
Interesting, I'm. Not a fan of the I20?
Yeah, made in Turkey. There you go.
Yeah. So the first and the second Joe
was made in Turkey apparently. But another car that was I don't

(54:13):
think they make them anymore, dothey?
Not for us like they still make the I 20s overseas, but but they
they get the base model, but we don't we don't get the really
get the hot 1. We get 10 in the UK as well.
Correct. Yeah, that is, that is very
true. Again.
Which I don't think you'd want any smaller, but anyway that's
imagine. An I5.

(54:34):
I reckon. I reckon the.
Cone is going to go the same way.
You reckon? Yep, there's there's something a
few of the new cone is like likeI'm seeing them around.
They're pushing it because they're fugly.
Yeah. You're not wrong though.
Yeah, actually I quite like the ad.
Did you see the ad? It's.
Great. Yeah style.
Beautiful style. But I, I, I think they're

(54:58):
working with what they've got, you know, from the point of view
that, that, that ad you, it's, if you haven't seen it, it's a
car park full of white, white orsilver SUV's, isn't it?
And all different makes models and stuff.
And he goes to get into a brightred Kona and drives off and you
think, you know, and it's, you know, about individuality and
standing out and that sort of thing with what you've got.

(55:20):
It might not be enough, but I thought it was creative.
The lady I worked has bought a brand new one.
Mary, if you're listening, Hello, lovely lady.
She's she bought a she bought a mint green one and it's it's
lovely to drive. Like it's actually it's highly
spectating everything. But yeah, I get it.
I don't I'm not a fan of the looks.
I don't think I could. Yeah, I don't think I could earn

(55:42):
it. Some angles it's not bad.
Where am I on the rear? The rear there is all right.
It's just like the light on the front just got so much plastic.
Like it, just like it. Just like there's a slab of
plastic where there's nothing init so it looks a bit weird.
Actually I saw and saw an insta on the road the other day.
What's? That oh, that's a new a new.
Hyundai, I think it's electric, but it's a small again than the

(56:05):
Venue it's. It's like the size of a an
Ignis. Like a new Ignis.
Oh. Cool.
Yeah, Yeah, very. Funky cool, cool looking car.
Did you say hi, David? I see I did as I went.
You said hi, he said hi, we all said hi to Hyundai.
Hi to Hyundai. That that that was their that
was their blood care man. But it worked.

(56:26):
You know, they, they, they were.Which was after all day, no.
It was before. That was before day.
Every day. Every day.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
The the pronunciation of the last last syllable right?
Yeah, that they got that they they worked on getting getting
they correct themselves correct Yeah, here's one for you guys

(56:49):
probably just want us to be that's.
Another fan. There's worse out there, Rob.
There's. There's worse.
Have you seen the Nissan joke? I mean, Duke, have you seen
that? They went from real bad ugly to
a little bit better. Slightly.
Yeah, a little bit better, like they just got a nose job or
something. Yeah, here's one for you guys.

(57:10):
The hole in Gemini. So what I think personally
killed the Gemini was the RB Gemini that the front wheel
drive Gemini. I think that's what I think
that's what killed the Gemini. If they would have kept it, you
know, rear wheel drive or even if they would have kept like
this, you know, some of the you know, the cool styling that it
had and and you know the the interesting things about it.
But they yeah, like everyone thinks of the jet.

(57:31):
No one thinks of an RB Gemini like nobody.
Everyone thinks of the, you know, the original, you know, T
series Gemini so. Really.
They made those RBS. Were they?
Were they like Isuzu, Japanese, Gemini?
Or were they? I'm not too sure.
Were they fully important? They maybe I'm I'm gonna look.
I have a. Feeling they were still built in
Queensland at Arcacia Ridge. I thought they were.

(57:55):
Yeah, Luky version of the Holden.
What was that? The Berean?
Was that a? Barina.
Yeah, a Barina was important. Barina was a a swift sort of
thing. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, it was. It was it was in America that
car was very marginal as far as being sold because of safety
concerns about the the structureof the body.

(58:17):
There was one of the crash teststhat didn't even like didn't
wasn't going to pass. My neighbours had a lovely old
beetle. It was a super bug, you know,
like in that mustard yellow colour.
But the big elephant foot tail lights nicely.
They've lived over there for decades and they had one of
those for years and years and years and years.

(58:38):
And then they traded it in the mid 80s on this RB Gemini.
And I remember being a bit horrified, like why would you
get rid of that lovely old beetle for that luck?
Just keep the beetle. And the Gemini they got was red,
bright red. And of course, over the years
that faded and then one day it was metallic green.
They had it repainted Metallica well.

(59:01):
In the colour they liked. Later.
Far out? Well, here's your.
Question. David, it was built.
It was built in Elizabeth after the closure of Elizabeth after
the closure of the occasion. Of Maddie, funny enough, the RB
Gemini sold the most out of all the Geminis, no?
Really. 240 Oh, no, sorry, no, no, sorry, I'm looking at the

(59:23):
wrong numbers. Sorry.
It's got, it's got total and then cumulative total, which is
like all of you know, sorry I looked at the wrong thing.
How many? Guys.
Yeah, they sold the lease. So for example TX jeopardise 48.
Sell the lease, yeah. TC jeopardise 17,000 TD 42,000,
T 70,000 TF 28,000 TG 24,000, RB16,000 So yeah.

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But. Of course, the earlier ones you
had a sedan and coop and a waggon and a paddle van.
Paddle van Yeah. Later ones were just sedan.
Yeah, correct. Yeah.
So I think that hurt it. I think that definitely hurt it,
but yeah. Apparently.
But that's a car that coming. Down the road the other day our
friend Brett David well, I said jeez, you don't see this these

(01:00:11):
around. It was a Gemini panel van like a
76 model maybe cool. Oh no it was a Reggio still in
the original plate so it might have been a 7879 Yeah.
Wow. Faded blue waggon manual rust in
the front of the sills like he could put your fist through
they. Always go there.
And I said, oh, jeez, that's, that's a nice old girl.
And Brett was like, oh, shouldn't be on the road, you

(01:00:33):
know, whinge, whinge, whinge. But he said, look, he loves it.
He won't get rid of it. He loves it and I'm like, well,
yeah, I can see one. I remember my dad when he had
his Fleuro Kermit green Gemini. David Prince will say the name
of the colour. Mint Julep.
Yep, there you go, Julep. It's the colour of Cad's wall

(01:00:54):
behind him there, almost. Yeah, kind of.
Yeah, it's about that. It's a bigger hand model.
I remember my uncle, he was a mechanic and he drove it and
he's like, this is the, he's like this thing's on its last
legs, but it won't die because these things are like
cockroaches. They, they, they're very hard to
kill. And I remember, I remember the
story my mum told me when she, when she, when my dad was like

(01:01:16):
to, Hey, you know, she's like, oh, What Car do you drive back
in Melbourne? Because like the man in Sydney,
he's like, oh, I've got a Gemini.
And she thought it was like a brand new RB Gemini, you know,
at the time, you know, this is avery nice car.
And she's like he get they're walking in the car park of of
Melbourne Airport when when she's landed and there and there
and they walk in, she sees this bright green Gemini all the way
in the distance. She's like, that can't be it

(01:01:37):
getting closer. Oh God, it might be than it is.
Oh no. No.
So that's the that's the story of the Gemini, which is the car
I came home from the hospital in.
Wow, I was a combi van. Yeah, well.
We had a mint jewel at SL. It was Kath's first car and then
my second work car was a TF Gemini van after XRACV.

(01:02:02):
Courtney and Patterson in Heidelberg is that?
Very cool. In being nice.
Wow. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, Odyssey Impatience. Odyssey Impatience.
What other ones, gentlemen? So that for me, that ruined the
Gemini and then that kind of ruined that little segment
because, because they pretty much had that segment tied up
really like they were killing itwith, with those.
If it wasn't a Corolla, you bought a Gemini really at the
time because like, because the, the, the European Ford offerings

(01:02:24):
of the, you know, of the, what'sit called?
The, the Escort was a good car, but it wasn't as big a seller as
as, as a Gemini or a Corolla. So they kind of had, you know,
they kind of had the segment really, really, you know, locked
down and then they kind of just let it go, which is.
The only thing in regard to thatis that toward with the T ES and
the T FS and the T GS, they was just Milky.

(01:02:44):
They just had this yeah, right platform.
I mean, the laser was had been released, the pulsars, the three
2-3 were all front wheel drive and more modern, more advanced
and modern and the like. So Holden had to do something.
It's just a shame that that RB was what they did.
Keeping with the same brand. Of course, though, you can't

(01:03:04):
talk Amira. Well, I was going to say
Commodore how that ended up, youknow, like from the brand that
it was to a, you know, fully important European based Opel.
It was the Insignia. I think also with the overseas
market, they should never recallthe Commodore.
It it, it, you know, it was justlike the.
I mean, that's one example of where they should have got rid

(01:03:26):
of the name. Correct.
Yeah, that's correct. Yeah.
Did more damage than anything. Exactly.
Right. Yeah, and the Commodore wasn't a
bad seller. Like, you know, it was always
OK. Yeah, it yeah, it's it's it got
hurt after the SUV craze and thedual cab craze, but it was still
a consistent seller. Yep.
You know, it, it was doing a lotbetter than Falcon ever did in

(01:03:46):
terms of in terms of that, you know, and, and you know, there's
one thing that Holden can hold their head up for that people
bought them and they kept buyingthem no matter what.
And when the RB came, it was an RB, the Zed B came out.
I think it must be a lot of beam.
It must be a failure point with Holden.
Everyone agrees that it shouldn't be.

(01:04:09):
It shouldn't have been called a Commodore and that heard it and
I don't know would you agree on that, that was the case that it
really hurt the brand. Yeah, like if you will, you
know, you you enjoyed your Holden and you're like, that's
it, all right, they're done. And you're like, that's where
the Holden ends or more the Commodore ends, I should say.
Sorry with, you know, UVFS. That's it.

(01:04:31):
Cool. It is what it is.
But then you're like, hey, you know, you can still have a
Commodore. It's just piece of shit that's,
you know, a frontal Dr and you know nothing to what a Commodore
used to be. Yeah, it does.
It rubs you the wrong way. And you know what?
I might just pick a different car from a different company at
this point. I'm not going to support this.
Yeah, but if they call it an Insignia like it's actual name
was, would you have said Oh yeah.
That's it. If you're in the market for that

(01:04:52):
kind of a sedanish car and you're wanting to go from drive,
yeah, but. Or a school drive.
Or all drive. Yeah, they do it all drive.
Yeah. But that's that's, yeah, calling
it a Commodore. Yeah, not the right pick.
Interestingly, for my thing, it would have been the distinct,
even though it was only one generation, but it showed a lot
of promise. A lot of people were happy with

(01:05:12):
it. I think most people that owned
it very much, very much love them.
They swear by them. The other thing is, obviously it
only lasted, what, 6 years? Yeah.
And it kind of came at the end of the Commodore and the Falcon.
So it's kind of going to like itwas poised to be the replacement
for those, but I think it was just too late in the game.
Yeah. Like, it was, it was, it was.

(01:05:32):
It showed promises. Like, you know what, you can
still have a nice fast sedan, you know, with a strong engine.
There's no V8, but still, you know, it's a twin turbo V6,
still pretty solid, 273 ish kHz or thereabouts.
But the problem is, I think, yeah, like people are already
kind of pushed onto the SUVs andthe dual cabs and, you know,

(01:05:53):
like it just didn't come early enough, I reckon if it came a
few years earlier. It would have caught on.
Yeah, it probably would have. Caught on I I've always said,
and I've said this to you and I said this on the podcast like it
was the kind of modern typhoon same power, kind of output, same
size, same there same that, you know, same idea.
Yeah, tunability, tunability, you know, and, and it didn't
for, for me, like when they announced that they were going
to stop making it, this sales went up like they, they had

(01:06:17):
people going to all different dealers to get one because
they're like, well, this is actually kind of a car, like the
last car that I kind of want. So if you, you guys can look at
the stuff yourselves, but you know, it's like, it's like
flatline flexing 2 cars a month to like thousands in the last,
in the last, you know, few, few bits of production.
Because you know that people realise it was a, it was a good
rig, you know, and that's what they want.

(01:06:39):
I wonder if somebody's got one parked up, he's like, oh, this
is going up in value, baby up and feel it got 200 KS on one.
That's all it's going to have, you know, that's it.
It's going to be retirement. There'll be someone, there'll be
someone like that for sure. But they're they're a great car.
Yeah, I'm a big fan of a case thing.
I'm I would happily have one in my driveway.
What are some other ones, gentlemen that were, you know,
were big sellers and then all ofa sudden the the got got

(01:07:01):
essentially killed. Well, I can tell you Ford
destroyed their brand image withthe Focus.
So the first and second generation Focuses sold
relatively well. The third generation came out
and then they had the power shittransmission.
Yeah. And that crucified the car like
it was, you know, in terms of asa car, it was great if you

(01:07:22):
bought the manual version, but if you bought an auto, you had,
you were stuck with the dual, the dual clutch gearbox, which
class actions worldwide, etcetera, etcetera.
And when they when they updated it for the update, they, they
put a conventional automatic back in it.
It was, it was too late. Like the people like, yeah,
we're not, we're not touching that with a 10 foot pole,

(01:07:42):
despite the fact that they were half decent.
So that kind of really hurt the brand.
So that, that, that that's a, that's a, an example of the
brand hurting, hurting itself interms of, you know, the product
being subpar and you know, now it's got a name of being a car
you wouldn't want to touch. I remember a lady bought one.
She I used to work with her at Target years ago.

(01:08:04):
Her ex husband used to work for Ford and still got a Ford
discount and she bought a KQ Laser brand new and only had
60,000 KS on it when she upgraded to the new Focus.
And within the first year you went back to get the clutches
replaced and it was replaced like two or three times.
So she's like, I shouldn't have got rid of my old legs.
But that's yeah. But you know, you don't know at

(01:08:26):
the time, you know, and she's like, I'd never buy another Ford
again. She's like, the only reason I
did is because you got the discount and this and that.
And, you know, it's, it's, it's,it says a lot about the, the
company, you know, failing, failing its customers.
So the only good Ford was made by Mazda, is that right?
That is kind of what I'm saying,yes.
Yeah. The best Commodore was the one
with the Nissan motor. Thanks Scotty.

(01:08:50):
Thanks, Scotty. Wait, So yeah, Scotty, would you
agree with that? Yeah, I would actually.
I don't know if this kind of fits the bill, but like the
Volvo 200 series. I mean.
In a look, I don't think the company sort of had a dive off

(01:09:11):
after the 200 was discontinued, but I think eventually, you
know, we're talking maybe 1520 years after that car was
discontinued. I mean, I know they had some
models in the meantime, but likethe 200 series is such a a
successful car, which it's an icon.
Then they yeah. And then they I, I also

(01:09:33):
recognise that the 800 Series replace that segment of their
car line because like, you know,similar sort of space interior
wise. But I feel like if they just
kept making the the the two, theseven and the 900 series, I'm
not sure anyone would have batted an iron.

(01:09:55):
Yeah, I think that's, I think that's a smart thing.
Like like I, I remember as a kidstill seeing more 200 series
Volvos than I did see those 800 series.
And even today, like I still seemore.
I say, Oh yeah, there's a, there's a 240 waggon.
Yeah, there's another. There's a lot more of them
kicking around than an 800 series.
And I don't think it's because they're cheaper and a lot more

(01:10:16):
reliable and what have you. I think that they just sold way
more than they did and. Sheer numbers, yeah.
Absolutely. And I think the fact that I
believe that a lot of them were built here, David, would that be
correct that over 202 forties and stuff they they were built
here in, in, in in some sort of numbers I'm, I'm.
Pretty they're assembled to Clayton.
Clayton Place and. And foxes up until certainly the

(01:10:44):
mid 80s. It'd have to be.
Yeah, yeah, you'd have to be. Because like that would have
been sold here in decent numbersfor and then that would have
been sold at an OK price because, you know, being the
knock down kits and and stuff built here that would have, you
know, helped, you know, people like certainly.
Helped and the local content going into.
It correct, yeah, absolutely. And and you still see plenty of

(01:11:04):
two 40s around like like a lot of car shows you go, there'll be
a 240 there, you know, like, and, but even people still using
them every day on the original ridges.
So, you know, especially, you know, down your side to David
and Ed, like there's still a lotof people with their old Volvos
at that, and they absolutely love them.
Yeah, they have the same brand. And like I see them more than I
see in eight series, like like like in 800 series.

(01:11:26):
So yeah, I think that I think that's something to be said.
Like I think the the reliability, I think the price
factor too, because you know, they were always like the eight
hundreds quite a pricey car backin the day.
So, you know, like people would be like, cool, that's a lot more
money than my. I'll stick with my 2:40.
Yeah. Yeah, the cool thing is they all
have the original dealer stickers on the back windows and

(01:11:48):
they've all the dealers are longsince gone.
So cool. Yeah, I followed one in in
Cantwell I'll probably 12 monthsago now.
They still have The Reg Hunt Volvo sticker on the back
window. So cool.
You can reminisce about the SO dealerships.
Page. I remember them.
I mean, this is a topic we we can reflect back on in a.

(01:12:10):
Quiz. Yeah, I think we can reflect
back on this in a in a few weeksand see what.
About and I know these are stillpopular obviously because they
can't make they keep they keep making them.
But the Mini when they went from, you know, Leyland,
etcetera and then to to BMW likethe original meaning.

(01:12:31):
Well, I think now. I think now especially because
the new mini is. Not a mini.
It's not a mini, it's a shadow of.
It's a shadow of itself, really.Axi.
They're big, big mothers. Such.
A bad reputation and reliability.
Yeah, that is, that is also true.
Right. So the car, the current name
exists obviously, but what it orwhat it used to be is no longer

(01:12:53):
right? Like it's small form micro car
now you can call it in today's words, but like that's that's
long gone and they sold so, so well.
Oh. Yeah.
I will give them credit in the the feel of the new minis is
very much like the original. You know, it's, it's a good

(01:13:14):
homage to the original in that they're very chuckable,
incredibly fun around town. Like if you you couldn't meet
anyone that would drive a manualJCW and punt it hard around some
corners. Who doesn't smile?
Those things are. A great time.
Very fun. You're right, Rob.
They're not particularly reliable.
When I worked at BMW, if ever there was a car on the hoist,

(01:13:34):
you know, with serious like the whole front end out, it would be
a Mini. But you know, when they're
working and working well, they're, they're a joy to drive,
whether it be the first of the new Minis or the last of the new
monies. Minis are definitely fun, but
they're, they're bigger and fatter and you know, all those
things. The car, the car that I had that
was the closest to the to the old Mini in modern, modern niche

(01:13:55):
times was that little cure. It was the three cylinder 1
litre cure. Oh yeah.
And that really was a tin can. So much fun.
But obviously Japanese built being bought, I had to and and I
was like, that's, that's sort ofthe real.
News. Spirit of the Mini.
Reminiscent. It.
Was 10 foot long and you know, tinny doors and all those things

(01:14:18):
but but Gee, it was fun. Yeah, that was a cool car.
I enjoyed that car. And also with the new Minis,
like they're not doing a manual anymore.
So that's so yeah. So that's that takes away any of
the fun factor for those cars because I mean, he should be a
manually in my eyes, but that's absolutely that's another story.
We'll revisit this because there's plenty of cars that we

(01:14:38):
can discuss that kind of, you know, was super successful and,
you know, fade off into existence and and we'll cover
them in it in another time. But it is the cartel car quiz.
So I've got my phone over here so Alan cannot see.
So hey I'll. Move over.
Shenanigans. I'm a fair player over here.
Yeah, right. You.
Can still see me. You know.

(01:15:00):
Can you see me? Hey, can you see this?
Yeah, I can see that. You know what it is it's the
cartel car quiz 10 questions plus some bonus questions
buzzing with your name Let's getinto it Question number one in
the game need for Speed Underground one.
So the first name has been underground.
What was the car in the opening sequence getting modified when
the game? Chad Chad.

(01:15:22):
Think it was a. On the Civic Cope.
Incorrect. Chad, Ed.
Ed Nissan 350 or 370Z. Incorrect. 70 Ed, Come on, 371
isn't even out there. Incorrect.
I don't know what year this is. Rob.
Rob. Nissan 200SX2. 100SX is

(01:15:43):
incorrect. The good guesses, they're all,
they're all in the game in some form or another.
One, this is underground one, right?
Underground 1 Correct. The open one was in the two of
the. Games.
I know it's an 092. I can buzz it again.
Yeah. David, come on.
Underground one, underground onean.
Acura. It was not an Acura, so I think
we've only got left, I think David Prince I.

(01:16:03):
Think it's me too rid of. Their mix.
It was not. It was a Mitsubishi.
Eclipse Eclipse. Eclipse.
Eclipse we didn't get here. We didn't get here no the the
good eclipse unfortunately, which is.
The only good one. Question #2 Which electric car
company has informed its distributor in Australia that

(01:16:25):
they are taking over control? David.
I said Ed first. That was Ed. 1st I heard David.
I heard David you. Heard David as well.
I heard David too. I'm sorry.
David Prince. BYD.
BYD is absolutely correct. What's going on there?
Sorry. So, yeah, to to finish the
question, because David Prince and Edward Bunting were so
quick. So they are, they've informed

(01:16:48):
the distributor in Australia that that they've got to take
over full control. Instead of it being led to like
the distribute, the distributionled to a third party.
They're making too much dealer. So, so they're wanting to as a
as a company, BYD not have a distributor anywhere.
They want to be the sole distributor of of the.
OK. In Australia.

(01:17:08):
In Australia, by this question, how many models do they
currently have on sale in Australia?
David, don't say the names. 4. Incorrect Alum Alum 5.
Incorrect Rob. Rob. 6. 6 is correct Rob.

(01:17:28):
Well Rob, Rob did a bunting and then jumped it up there.
Bonus bonus question point each alum, name them.
OK. Otto Dolphins.
Otto's .5. That's not, that's not fully
correct. Alum.
All right, that's .5. I'll take the .5. .5 dolphin is

(01:17:50):
another one. Seal.
Seal is another one. That's all I got.
David. David.
Sea lion. Sea lion is 1, David.
Dolphins. Oh, you said dolphins.
The dolphin's been said, yeah, so we've said Otto.
There's another part to that fora. 3. 3.5 To David Prince.
So we've said auto three, we said the seal, the sea lion and

(01:18:11):
dolphin. And shark.
Shark. There is Shark.
Yeah, I'll give you, I'll give you .5 there's.
A couple of different sea lions though, A5 and A7.
I'll give you the point there. It would bunting.
I'll give you .5 to rob because you you did say you know the
shark. So they've got the Auto 3, the

(01:18:32):
seal, the Sea Lion 6, the Sea Lion 7, the Dolphin and the
Shark 6 is what they currently have on sale in Australia.
Score check. David on three, Rob on 1.5, Ed
on one, Alamon 2.5 Chad yet the score come on Chad come.
On guys, it's going to go home already.

(01:18:53):
Scotty. What's Scotty on?
Scotty get the score. Scotty get the score.
I was just dying at the corner. Question #3 Which company sells
the last five cylinder powered cars in the world?
Rob. Rob.
Volvo. Incorrect.
Chad, you get Volkswagen Audi. Volkswagen Audi Group old pay

(01:19:14):
ESA Audi is correct. Bonus question on which model
slash models does this engine appear?
Chad. Chad.
The Rs Q3. That is one point, and there's
another point available there. You.
Go Oh, Chad. Chad.
RS3. RS3 is correct, yes.

(01:19:36):
So the Rs Q3 and the RS3 is the last cars in the world available
with A5 cylinder engine, 215 litre 5 cylinder.
Mate you ask any guy with a straight 6 who's dropped
available too? Yep, they run 5 cylinder
engines. You were not wrong.
Any barrel that's missing one cylinder?

(01:19:57):
Yeah, like my other. Cylinder you need.
To call. That lumpy Allen?
Send it a call back question #4 which has been the only muscle
claw, muscle claw muscle car slash pony car to be in constant
production since its introduction.
Alan Alan, The Ford Mustang. The Ford Mustang is correct,
Alan. Well done.

(01:20:18):
It's getting tired. It's a tight quiz time.
Unless your name's Ed Bunting, because he just hasn't really
moving hard. I.
Did answer the one before but you didn't hear it so you know.
There's #5 Which car company from the following is not from
China? BYDX, Peng, Leaf Motor, Geely,

(01:20:41):
Chang Han, Cherry Neo Psych, Dongfeng D Pal, Gak Honda, Chang
Feng and Zika. Which of those ones are not from
on from China? Yeah, David.
D Pal. Incorrect.

(01:21:02):
Ed. Ed.
The Dak Feng thing. Incorrect.
Rob. Just say those names again.
Rob. So Yak or whatever it was.
Zika or sake? No, that's incorrect.
You say those names again, the ones that have been called out.
Chain Feng, Zika, GAK, Honda D Pal, Dong Feng, Sake, Neo

(01:21:26):
Cherry, Changan, Geely or Geely,Leap Motor X Pang and BYD I'll.
Go to Neo. Incorrect, Chad, it's on you.
Is it the first one? That's a Korean one.
BYD is incorrect. Not all of them.
The answer is. Oh no.
Oh, that was BYD. Sorry.
They're all Chinese. They're all Chinese.
It's a trick question. They're all Chinese gentlemen.
Jesus Christ, Maddie. I'm trying to be evil for a

(01:21:51):
change and it's not working. Like we're going to get accused
of being fair to say. I'll never buy any of them.
So we all put a point. We all get a point.
Yeah. Except Scotty.
Except Scotty. Scotty doesn't.
Get a point? He doesn't get a point on
abandonment. That's OK, guys.
Oh, better luck next week, yeah?That's it.

(01:22:11):
Is anyone you want to? Thanks.
Thanks Goody, just myself. Just myself.
Number six Question 6. How many rally art Mitsubishi
Magnas were produced? Oh, David.
David. I should know this.
Andrew Rigglesworth will be screaming at his radio, right?
I know, I know. I'm sorry, Andrew.
I'm going to say 500. 500 is bang on.

(01:22:32):
Well done. Thank you.
Nice, thank. You very much.
Bonus question on which generation of the Mitsubishi
Magna I'm after. I'm after the model code.
Were they were they released? Were they based?
David. Model code OK.
Model code please. Third generation.
That is correct, but I'm after model code and specifically
please. Hold the chassis number the.

(01:22:54):
Chassis code. Sorry, the chassis code, Yeah,
if you. Can just maybe, and I apologise.
Events. Andrew, TJ.
What were you going to say, ChadI.
Was going to say TA. David is right, it's TJ.
It's the one after. Yeah, the ugly, ugly one.
What are you talking about? Sorry, no offence the.

(01:23:14):
Situation. I think it comes in my front
shocks. Question, you have the good one,
TJ is the one after, right? No, no, it's two.
TJ is 1K JKJ. Yeah, it's the one.
After. No, it's another one.
Yeah, yeah. Question #7 How many generations
of the Holden Piazza were sold in Australia?
And. Ed was in there first.

(01:23:35):
Yeah, just like before. Jeez.
OK, all right. Really.
I mean, I thought there was onlyone, but now I'm thinking maybe
that's a trick. Maybe it's 2.
Is that your final answer? No.
I'm going to go 1. That's correct.
That's. What?
I thought that's what I thought,yeah.
Question #8 Toyota used the Sportivo name on many models in

(01:23:58):
their range that included Echo. They included Camry and Corolla.
What does Sportivo mean in Italian?
Chad. Chad.
Sporty. Sporty, yeah.
That's .5 because there's there's another meaning for it.
I'll give you a .5 Chad, isn't it?
So it's sporty is one word that it means, but also means

(01:24:19):
something else. David.
David. Is it fast?
Incorrect so that Alan, Rob and Edward to.
Go. T TiVo What's Latin TiVo TiVo
TiVo isn't. That a streaming service TiVo.

(01:24:41):
Sporty style. Sporty style is incorrect, Rob.
I like that one. It's a good one.
Yeah, it's not bad. Helen and Edward.
Come on Ed, you're all, you're all like fake Italian sometimes.
You're a resident Italian. I'm not getting in and nothing's
coming to me. Nothing.
You're out, alum. You're out as well.
I'm not. Ed.

(01:25:03):
It's a pasta dish. Pasta dish is incorrect.
You've done a cooking course in Tuscany.
You think you know every pasta? Yeah, it does, Sporty.
Spirit. Sporty spirit is incorrect.
It means athletic, athletic or sporty.
Yeah. Athletic.
Right. Question #9 If a car runs AT 56,

(01:25:25):
what would that be? Allen Allen got in there first.
56 damn it. T56 What is AT56?
It's a A6 speed manual. It is a transmission.
I'll pay that. Yes, I was going to say.
Transmission. That's two points down, down.
Random. Well, there there was many cars
that had AT 56. That is not the bonus question.

(01:25:45):
We had it, Ford didn't have it, General Motors had it.
That's a point. That's a point.
That's a better. Question who didn't have?
It that is. Also making up points now I'll.
Tell you who didn't have it. Bloody Ford with the power
shifts. They did not get goes.
Or any Japanese go? Yeah, that is correct.

(01:26:05):
That is correct. All right.
Last question is a question for brochures from the Australian
Car Ads Instagram page, which weall love and get all our great
stuff from there. That's the first time I've heard
about this damn Instagram page. That's what I'm getting from.
People have been studying and colluding and here I am.
You don't work. Maddie, your phone screen is a

(01:26:26):
little visible. Oh, is it?
Yeah. Hey.
Did you guys see what the car was?
No. OK, go on shenanigans.
All right, this is where it all starts.
You climb into your new blank blank and you'll climb into the
driver's seat, tailored for performance.
Behind you, it's seats back sculpted with large wings,

(01:26:50):
keeping you making sure you havea secure driving position.
Behind you, a seat back sculptedwith large wings helping you
secure it. Saab 9000.
Aero. Incorrect.
How we secure a driving positionduring quick lateral
acceleration. Wings that taper below the
shoulders to avoid any interference during cornering or

(01:27:10):
aggressive gear changing while around you.
There's a selfish layout of instruments.
So selfish layout of instrumentsthat mean selfish.
Layout of instruments. Which means which towards the
driver, if that makes sense. That's a bit.
You'll maintain my Saab 9000 error.
That's a good. It's a.
It's a good guess, but it's incorrect.
That is what you're describing. Every dial, every button, every

(01:27:33):
bit of important information is pointed directly at you for
instant comprehension. And if you are the passenger and
sorry, and if you are the passenger, question mark.
While your seat may not be as quiet as a radical, consider
yourself lucky and hold on tight, Chad.
Mark Forte, the supra. Mark Forte is incorrect.
That's I was actually thinking that Chad, it's.

(01:27:54):
A good guess though too. So the blanks driver's seat,
it's now it's got all about the driver's seat cut outs where the
bolsters are as a sculpted in the middle to to for optimum
shifting and steering. The bolster is is angled 40° to
support you and keep you in yourseat.
Where you should be is. What it says.
So it's got a different driver'sseat to the passenger seat.

(01:28:16):
No, they're the same seat. It's just the way it's been,
it's been angled. Is it worded it like it was a
different seat? Yeah, yeah, it, it has.
It has that. Is the ChatGPT this bullshit
before that? It's got a 80 submissive bolster
and that has cutouts with both legs to optimise pedal optimum
up the pedal operation. This car was sold in the in the

(01:28:38):
2000s and it's a sports car. I can't give you any more than
that otherwise it'll give away Rob.
Rob. Crossfire.
Crossfire is a good guess, but incorrect.
It went against it had a big. Wings, though on the scene it.
Didn't, but it's it went againstthe crossfire back in the day.
So, so Chad's out, Ed's out, Rob's out.

(01:28:59):
It's Japanese. So give you a hint.
David and and Alan are still in.Alan.
Alan. Honda's 2000.
Correct, David Prince, I'll giveyou some more hints.
If you get this wrong, then everyone's back in.
OK. I've got another guess.
Oh, sorry, did you say you? And.
Then if I get it wrong, everyone's back in, or if I

(01:29:21):
don't get it, everyone's back in.
If you don't get it, everyone's back in and, and you've got
another guess as well. I do remember this.
They made a lot of, they made a lot of fuss about their seat
and, and how it was like, you know, the, the, you know, it was
really interesting to drive. Yeah, is it the aforementioned
370Z? Isn't the 370Z incorrect alum?

(01:29:41):
Alum, we got a new round, so it's the 3:50.
Z it's the 350Z. This is the 350.
It is the 350Z. Yes, there it is.
And those instruments were selfish.
They were very angled. They.
Were they've got like a whole picture of the chair.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I apologise for that selfish
action, David, but thank you, I appreciate it.

(01:30:05):
Score score check Let's crack. Let's see the Rob 1.5 Scotty get
the score Edward to Chad 3.5 David 12345 Allen 12345.5 gets.
The victory on the. Last point, you Steve Bradberry

(01:30:27):
bastards, they're looking you, you have, you've taken you've
taken it away from. Thank you, David.
You're welcome on this occasion.Steve Bradbury, deep singer
should be called that's that is your.
That is your new name. That is the car quiz, gentlemen.

(01:30:47):
Good. Well done, Alan.
Anyone you want to thank? I want to thank David and I want
to thanks guys. So you should.
Yep. So we should?
Absolutely. So you should.
Anyone else? You Maddie, for doing such a
good quiz. Thank you.
Thank you. I don't think I had any anymore,
but ohh, you know, surprised. I thought it was a pretty good.
Quiz the I. I did like how it kind of ran
through all of us with kind of getting close to the lead and.

(01:31:10):
It was, it was a tight quiz, yeah.
Like pretty solid. Genuinely that it could have
been anybody game. I mean, there's Paul Formson,
Scotty, but. Yeah, but.
We won't hold that against. We'll just glance over that
Scotty gonna hate us for doing this but.
He's probably up to his sticky date pudding now.
I'd be. Don't tell me that's my
favourite. That's my favourite dessert
anyway, when I was at Canberra camp, they all know, see that

(01:31:34):
pudding is my favourite pudding.So they all ordered to get that
pudding and they put it in frontof me and like you got to eat
this. And then, and so I had and then
they're like, we're going to make you hate to get that
pudding because because you've talked about how much you like
it so much. So now everybody's phone, the
picture of me is me with like like four or five to get that
pudding in front of me. And as I'm going through them
all by 1. So literally you've had a few

(01:31:54):
sticky dates, eh? Oh yeah, you could say that
Mister. Mr Mr Up Moving on swiftly
moving on A Scotty's golf tip ofthe week.
Yeah, so I think probably the one I've got for you all is if
you're on the fairway, you want to use a big club.

(01:32:18):
Some people call it the Big Bertha and that's what I'd
recommend. You don't want to pick an iron
for the fairway. So, so you need like a like a,
like a, like a three word or a two word or something.
You want the birther you. Want the birther?
Yep. Want the big YEAH?
Yeah, good tip like it nice. Yep, I think, I think we're

(01:32:38):
getting, we're getting, we're getting very, very good tips
from, from Scotty Robs doing it.He's quite literally doing
everything. He's even doing police
investigations and car, was it car, car removals?
Car relocation. Relocation.
Allegedly. Allegedly.
Reframe that Grand Theft Auto. Coming out in 2026 so that it's

(01:33:02):
delayed. He can, yeah.
We're going to see, we're probably going to see the end of
Trump's reign after and it's still going to have have GDA 6.
I don't think that's the case. Oh, OK.
Oh, is that from some insider insider knowledge?
Can't say too much, OK? David's got some knowledge.
He does. So yeah, Rob's doing it.

(01:33:22):
Chad's delivering, delivering toa place in the EU you want and
he'll bring it. A good friend.
Rizzi, Ross. Yes, So if you would like to run
the gauntlet and buy an electriccar and run the risk of not
being able to get replacement parts and having the car totaled
after a small Fender Bender hit it by a good friend Verizi
ross@carloop.com dot. AU.

(01:33:43):
Canalsobefound@facebook.com/carloopAU He's a man in the know when
it comes to the electric car space, and he might let you know
which cars you'll actually be able to get spare parcel so
you're not stuck on, you know, the bad end of the stick when it
comes to your insurance. A few Fender benders happen all
the time. I'm seriously going to cut these
out of every episode and put them together and just play them
back one day cuz they get betterbut.

(01:34:05):
He's also the man in the know when it comes to the going price
of brand new cars, so it's him up for all the information.
It's a great human tour is big shout out to you mate David
Prince and Edward Bunny. Anything you would like to plug?
Yeah, I'll just plug my cars forsale again.
So I've got five, I've got the murky three, 5006.

(01:34:27):
I've actually got no 5:06 and 07:00 and the Triton dual cab
07. There you go, 567 family pack,
20 grand. A lot come and get. 20K no more
to pay. 20K no more to pay for the lot.
Yep, I'll do that. Yep, done, done deal.
David Prince. Anything you want to plug?
Just myself. Oh no.
One other thing. July 6th has just been announced

(01:34:48):
that they're doing a highball atthe mall.
They did see that, yeah. And.
It's not a Northland, is it? No.
It's no huddled no. Not no machete.
And it's a big steel themed highball.
Did see that, yeah. Steel themed.
Big steel themed. What does that mean?
Talking like the movie Bare Metal.

(01:35:10):
He's got a Cedric. No, no, no.
The movie. The Movie.
No one's got a Cedric. The the Cedric that you almost
bought years ago be. There, I know I nearly did that
car, but hang on big steel thinglike it's I mean it's 1990 was
the film. So are they wanting 90s cars?
I should have. Like the Ltd Ltd LED Australian,

(01:35:31):
you got picked up in a bloody fair lane.
You need that Ltd with a Persianrug draped over it it.
Might be back on Sally. Hit up the guy, low block.
Their website. Check their website.
Coming up, it's being set up like a car yard.
And they said Gordon. Farkas.
You're your best Gordon Farkas essentially, is what they're
saying. So I love it.

(01:35:51):
So that'll be a good time, gentlemen, Honour as always.
I think that's a podcast I can show Facebook pages, Car Talk,
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(01:36:13):
podcast. We're also on.
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car content, including car ASMR videos.
Next Monday night I'm recording the MR2.
Excellent. So we'll.
Was it nerd? No nerd noises.
Nerd noises. Correct.
Never done any of my cars, you know, Bring one over.
Edward Bunting. It offended.
Yeah, bring it over, bring the, bring the diesel, the little

(01:36:35):
piggy. That'll be fun.
Or. The piggy, Yeah, or.
Or the CA because because you can hear the bell goes because
as it comes out to you. That'll be cool.
Yeah. Sorry, the headrest.
Yes, I push the buttons. My car makes a lot of sounds.
Yeah, all the good sounds. So yeah, Monday, Monday night,
I'm recording. I'm going to try to record a few
cards. So if you can, any of you boys
want to come over for a beer, you're more than welcome to.

(01:36:58):
Oh, I was like a night. Or a beverage.
You're more than welcome to comeover and we can record.
Up squash. How long does it take to record
1 car? 40 minutes.
Yeah, about 40 minutes. We.
Set up and. We set up and ready to go.
Yeah, I'll, I'll make sure it's set up on the Sunday night.
So it's ready to go for the for the Monday, Yeah.
Yeah, you did. Retreat, so let me know, but you
guys are more than welcome to come for a Bev honour.
As always, gentlemen, I'll see you next time.

(01:37:19):
Take it easy. Cash though, Goodbye.
Bye.

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