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There's a professional radio. There was this front wheel drive
so. Have you got anyone you want to
thank? Just myself.
And now I do the after hours, gentlemen.
What would you go for? They see us in there, OK, And

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because it's not a super duck. What?
It is. It's not automatic.
Perfection comes in the form of 2 letters A&U.
Long live my Ltd. Welcome to Car Talk.
It's Tuesday night here at 90.9 Northwest FM.
It's me, Mary J online with Mr Scotty Doe Johnson, Mr Alamdeep

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Singh, Mr Rob Zadai and first time on the show.
First time, so long time listener, first time caller, Mr
Jim Barlow. How are you guys?
I'm good. Thank you very much.
Good. Thanks.
Happy to be here. Good.
Thank you. No worries Jim, welcome to the
show. Thank you very much for having
me. Thanks for coming on.
We we we've been discussing you coming in the show for a while

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in terms of like in been passing, but but I was like, you
got to come on the show at one time.
So you've you've you've come on the show now.
You've met all the guys because you you met him at Sakura
picnic. And it was funny when, when Alan
and and Scotty, you know, when you guys walked off, I think
there was chatters was there as well.
You were like, go, just close myeyes.

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It was like I'm listening to thepodcast, like just hearing you
guys hearing you guys talk. So nice to have a listener of
the show who's actually keen to to jump on and, and and have a
chat. So, so welcome.
Thank you very much. No, it's it's so good,
especially when I'm I'm committing to work and stuff can
just go Yep, new podcast. We can just settle back and
relax and enjoy the the banter and the quiz at the end and all

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the discussions. All the all the alum entries
where he says shenanigans and all and all the above and.
The only one here trying to keepthe quiz you know above above
reproach. Too many rule Breakers around
here is what I'm saying. Too, too, too many rule, too
many rule Breakers, he says. OK, you got.
Mr Edward Bunting just yelling at his name and then taking 20

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minutes to answer the question. Well, actually on that, I've
often wondered why you haven't maybe introduced some elevated
music whenever he answers the question.
We should, we should do that. We should.
Sorry, hang on, we can play thator the Jeopardy theme music.
Just just hang on, guys, sorry, just before you answer that,
just press play. But yeah, look, it's be prepared
for shenanigans. It's Scotty's quiz tonight.

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So, so, so Scotty's written a quiz for us.
I got kept back at work. I had a big, big afternoon, so I
wasn't able to to get it done. So, so thank you, Scotty.
And we'll get to that towards the end of the show.
But before we get into our car updates, let's let's introduce
you, Jim. So Jim, again, long time
listener of the of the podcast, member of the esteemed Honda Car
Club in Victoria, owns a few cars himself.

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So tell us a little bit a littlebit about your Jim and about
some of the cars that you own soour listeners can get a grasp of
who you are and, and the and thecars that that you that you
drive. OK so I've probably been a
member of the Honda Club for about about 8 years now.
My first car was an EG civic sedan dual car.
I currently own 4 civics, prelude, Ford laser and cheddar

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highs. And I'm also another fellow
educator as well. I've got a lot on this podcast,
so. Scotty would be enjoyed.
Yeah. So, so you've got.
OK, so, so you've got a prelude.You've got 3 civics you said, or
4? Just try and count.
Hang on one 2-3. Sorry, 3 civics and a jazz.

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I forgot the jazz. Yeah, so 3 is currently 3 civics
and a jazz. You you know when you're into
cars, when you've got to remember how many you've got,
and you've got to start countingwhen you've got a fair few.
Yeah, I should start chromologically, otherwise I
forget, but yeah, it's it's quite funny.
I've got one for every day of the week so.
Absolutely. But you mainly drive your Ek,
correct? Yeah.

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Yes, that's my daily driver. That's the one that this my my
workhorse, Yes. And, and this, this E this Ek
you've put on a bazillion miles like it's, it's, it's quite,
it's quite the story. It's quite the car.
We're talking about it. And it's, it's quite a, it's a
weird, it's like a Japanese import, isn't it?
This one? It's a bit of a jump so.
So my my first my first car was Japanese import.

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That's that was the EG. Yes, EG yeah, but my, my Ek is
actually has been in the Honda Club for 22 years.
So it was actually owned by the father of friend of Mr Prince
and I bought it when that previous owner passed away.
So I've had it now for six and about 6 1/2 years.

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I bought it with 193,000 KS on it.
When I spoke to it secure it had474 and now it has 476.
Well, it's always at 4:50 that'ssee, see Rob and and you and you
say Hondas. Well, Hondas that that's they're
the best. I'm hoping to have 500 by
Classic Japan in December, so yeah.

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Just just a little context. You do a lot of driving in it.
Yes, so I do. I was doing about 1000 K's a
week but then now I'm also attending TAFE on weekends so
it's about 11-12 hundred K's a week.
Yeah, Yeah, you should probably get there, I'd say.
Yeah, no, very, very good. And when we got you into cars,
like were you always into cars or were you you're?
Pretty much always into cars, like when I was younger it was

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more into like locally made stuff in Big V eights and stuff
like that as well. But I spent most of my life
living near Phillip Island and watching a number of races
where, you know, V8's always funded to the and then watching
them as their breaks start to glow red hot and they run out of
traction and they go backwards. And then you go, okay, that was
fun for a few minutes. So I think and then obviously

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when you're young, a lot of the car is sort of aspired to you
can't afford. So it's looking around.
But it was actually quite funny because I had the relative I I
spent a lot of time with was very anti Honda actually, but
her very trusted mechanic recommended to me as a first
car. And when his daughter was moving
into a BMW, he offered me the Civic and I became rusted on

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after that. And my relative had to very but
gradually accept it when they could no longer drive and they
were stuck being in my Honda. So that was really funny.
Well. You're not, you're not just a
Honda man. Like, yeah, out of all the
Hondas you had, you did. So you didn't mention you got a,
you got a laser. So you're definitely welcome on
this side of the podcast. And Rob's just like off.
Yeah. Yeah, no, I have good memories
of being given to school in a KBlaser gear manual, and it, that

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was so cool. Unfortunately, mine's an
automatic, but still, I love it.Not the same build quality as my
Honda, but yeah, I enjoy nonetheless too.
And I went to drive in a car without new power steering, so
that doesn't faze me at all. Yeah.
So, so that that's a KB GL correct?
Yes. Yeah.
And that's a. That's a automatic 1.5.

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Yes, yeah. I'm not sure exactly of the
colour colour, I need Mr Prince for that, but it's green.
It's like a brown interior. There will there will yeah, a
lot of them with with that combo.
But yeah, they've they've held the test of time.
They're they're they're definitely a good thing and I'll
be interested just to see that car one day actually that that'd
be that'd be really. Really cool.
Absolutely. Yeah, it's, yeah, it's one of

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the many projects on on the listof the Moment 2.
And yeah, it was a bit of an impulse purchase.
I have learned the hard way that, you know, I probably
shouldn't spend as much time on grades as I do.
I end up buying too many cars that way.
But hey, we're only live once, so.
Absolutely 100% and you you're probably what what generation

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probably do you. Have that's 3rd and probably so
that's the first one with four wheel steering pull up.
Headlights. That's a cool car.
Yes, I bought it from my optometrist so I've seen it near
me and I've often wondered who owned it.
And then one time around Christmas time about I think it
was 2022 or something, I start being driven and then I went Oh

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my pub trust is driving it. And then when I saw him I said
to him, if you ever want to sellit let me know.
And then he said Oh no it's fineat the moment.
And then I had just bought my EdCivic and about 3 days later he
goes, oh remember when I spoke about the prelude and I'm like
great, here we go. And then he said, Oh, yes, well,
I want to sell it now. OK, great.

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And you know, being a teacher, it's they.
Don't really have like. Money growing on trees anyway.
But anyway, so I've got that. So I've got 160,000 KS.
It's been in his family since new.
His father bought it originally,but one of his sons I think when
they're going to like parked it out on the street.
And so it's quite sun to bake, sun baked.
And when I've driven it, it's quite fun watching, but paint

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literally flake off while I'm driving.
So yeah. But it's only got 165,000 KS and
I think so it's pretty low really.
Is that registered that one or is that on a club plate or?
It's still registered, but it's currently in storage at the
moment, yeah, but yeah, not the ongoing project.
And is that a manual or is that an order?

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No, it's not a medic. Unfortunately nearly all of my
cars were American, but yeah. Boring, but it's it's still full
of steer prelude and you know, alot of people don't realise like
that was that was a pretty hot car back in the day like that
was. Absolutely.
I was so straight away with the rhino height just went, yeah,
that that's perfect. Yeah, none of this is climbing
up into a tree thing. Oh, lovely.

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And I asked our first time guests on the show, always this
question, if you had to get a car with, you know, that you
really, really want, what would it be?
I can never answer it because it's just like, oh, there's so
many to choose from so. There's there's so many and also
being neuro spicy too. It just completely changes every
few minutes. But probably at the moment I'm
going to be a little bit left field and say something like and

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I'm strong, Sydney 346 I think. Yeah, classy car like that one.
That's a good choice. Well, welcome to the show, Jim.
You know how our show works. We do our car updates and then
we get into our overarching topic of the evening.
So let's begin with some car updates.
Let's start with Scotty. Me, yeah, nothing exciting.

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All I did was gave the blade a wash and I don't know if it's if
any of you are the same but not a fan of washing cars.
I love it. I thought it was therapeutic.
I don't, I just end up with a sore.
I just end up with a sore back and and then black rims.
Oh, don't get me started. Black wheels are the worst.

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And the other thing that I complain about is when you wash
it. That's when you start finding
little new stone chips and Nicksand things like that in it.
And I just found a new tiny, tiny din and a mark on the side
of the blade as I'm, you know, Ihate it.
I hate it. So when you find all that stuff,
that just makes you sad. Yeah, Yep.

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And I like being sad. I don't like being sad, but I do
like having a clean cut. It's nice.
There's there's a balance to be had between the therapeutic part
and the you needing remedial therapy afterwards part.
And I think I always managed to crossover and for that second
part, most of the time, and I'm like it's gonna be a quick wash.
3 hours later, I'm still out there.
I'm like, all right, you done itagain.

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Why you do this? You know why you like this.
Yeah. Why couldn't it just be a wash?
Why did I have to do the whole process?
Yeah. I I find it like I I love it.
I I could spend all day in a carand just I got my little brushes
for my for my vents and and things and, and Steph will be
like, where is this guy? And I'll be in the garage and
you know, just just polishing and and just brushing and I

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always said also, is it clean? No, no, is it as clear as it
could be? No.
So then I go back and clean it even more.
I get out my, my, my, my steamer.
You know, I get I I go to town now I love it.
It's full day event for me. That that for me.
Is like money come round. Yeah, I'm back.
I was. Happy you can do your car, Yeah,
and I'll shat your BBQ or whatever you want.

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You can come clean. Dodd, I'm over.
I just remember the day we did the MR2 that.
Was a good day. Yeah, I think we spent like 3
and a bit hours by the end of itand there was no polishing.
That was just decontaminating and then just coating it with it
was a hand protectant, but still, like it was nice.
It popped. I still have that picture of a

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misty Edward Bunting doing the, oh, water feeling Toyota jump.
Yeah. That was good.
That was fun. I do remember that.
So you gave the gave the blade aclean.
Scotty regretted your decision. Need to see an osteopath and
that's that's where you're at. Yeah, yeah.
That's it. Alan Deep.
Unfortunately, yeah, not a huge amount of exciting stuff on my

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end either. Finally got the Dmax booked in
for the, what do you call it, that recall.
Much to my chagrin, there was another recall that I just
hadn't been informed about. So I can get the two in one
service at least. Which is good combo.
Yeah, I think I'm taking it or my dad will be taking it.
And next Tuesday I just booked in a time that was convenient

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for them to wake up later on in the day rather than why, you
know, get there at 7:00 or something and wait for them to
open. And then I would just take one
of the other cars to work. But so they they do that.
What is it? The oil dipstick and the fuel
delivery hose might be entangledor rubbing on each other,
leading to a possibility of fire.
So they'll have to deal with that.
That's the most recent recall. Apparently there's also an ECM

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flashing that needed to take place and that's been since like
August last year. And you know, I didn't get no
paperwork about that. So it also it would have
happened right after I got the car serviced.
So it wouldn't have been done during the service either.
So I've been running the car with at least, you know, recall
issue since then. Maybe it's a lower tier recall
that's why it's then send out the notices or something.

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But basically I think they described as the car can, in
some situations lose power and stall, leading to a dangerous
situation. So I can't tell if this is like
a high, like you're on Hwy speeds, that sort of thing
because that's never happened tome.
What I have had it happen a few times in the D Max is when
you're moving off at a slow pace, but then let's say it's a

(14:09):
roundabout, you're trying to kind of edging forward and you
get an opportunity. So you kind of put your foot
down a little bit more. I've had a few situations of
where the car's kind of almost died on me for a second or it
seems like it's kind of about toshift up in a second and then
it's like, Oh no, I can't do that.
And it's confused. So you kind of like bog down for
half a second and then it picks back up and gets going.
So it might be that that they'retalking about.

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I'll probably get more information when they drop off
the cargo. I'll meant to ask a few
questions, but they probably won't give any decent answers.
But it's it's it's still weird to me that I've never got any
contact about that recall. So at least, you know, two birds
with one stone. I think she was she was going to
go for the traffic that she was like, oh, you know, your service

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is coming up. I was like, I still got another
5000 KS lady. Like let me wait till the end of
July. You know, you can have your $680
or whatever it is. Cap price my ass.
It's like cap price servicing. But would you like an AC
service, you know, or whatever it was?
I think they wanted like 180 bucks for that and then they

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want to sell me tyres for like 1500 bucks.
A dollar wiper blades. Yeah, yeah.
So I'll have by the time it getsthere, I'll have a new cabin
Philtre, I'll have a new fuel Philtre.
I've already had the new tyres put on what, a month and a half
ago? I'm looking forward to what
they're trying offer me. But that's that's for I guess
future, future episodes. So in the meantime, it'll just

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be the recall and then that should be it.
I think I gotta get the the Honda booked in for a service
because it's been about a year since I purchased that off.
Misread. Yeah.
So I might just take it to the old rat man, or he'll just give
me a lot of book service. Yeah, very easy, very nice.
We're also joined by Mr Turpitary himself.
Mr Anthony Falk. How you doing?
Anything. Eric guys had the little one

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crying. I didn't think you did that in
the background. No.
How you doing mate? Yeah, not too bad, guys, Not too
bad. Good to see everybody again.
Good to see you too, mate. Good.
We're just doing just in car updates at the moment.
We'll come, we'll come back to you.
Rob updates with you. Just got the couple of dints
taken out of Harley's C63 that was passed on to us from

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delivery from North Shore Mercedes when we got it.
Finally got all the densol, fixed it and straightened out of
the the quarter panels. So that looks good.
Booking my niece's car for a service.
Harley's car has been serviced. I'm getting mine detailed on
Friday. So yeah, just sort of just
general things. But getting the cars detailed
and washing the cars is the besttime to do all the wiper washer

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fluids, check the oils, make sure it's all OK, and if you
want a good paint, a paintless dent remove guy, just let me
know Scotty and I'll put you on to him.
Will do. Rob's pity.
No, I won't do it. I've got the little PDR kit.
You can try it at your own whim.But yeah, you can.

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Yeah, you can definitely try it,but it's very difficult to try
doing it yourself. I haven't had too much success
trying to do that. The dent removals myself with
the glue guns, it's some of it'sworked if some of those into
panels in some cars. So other cars it's just it keeps
on popping off because it's justthe metal's too strong.
Even though you try to heat it up a little bit and glue it on

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and and then try to pop it, it doesn't always pop.
Yeah, pedia, especially at the highest level is such an art.
Like you just see them go at it and you know, you're like, I
don't even see anything there inthe 1st place.
The next thing you know they're like Nope, there it is.
I can already tell that if that little weird thing with the
lines in it reflecting and they're going at it to poking
things and whacking it. And I'm like, just that is like,

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you know, a lot of witchcraft. Yeah.
A lot of automotive services arelike, you know, some Hogwantry
and stuff. But that is some you can see
where your money's going, like in in a level of skill that a
person's built up over the years.
Yeah. Absolutely.
With the with the with my old Volvo, the S60 that had one of
the hailstorms got hit and got got sort of with PDR and again,

(18:10):
guys did a did a killer job withit.
Yeah, couldn't recommend anything else higher if you're
not looking to race spray or anything like that.
Again, definitely black magic going on there.
So yeah, I had five dinks removed, $300.00.
It's pretty good. Hey, that's good.
I've got to get my laser done. It just, it just seems to

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attract all the hits. So that, that'll, that, that'll
get done at some point. Cindering they charge you to do
like to fill a crack or something in your windscreens
already like a couple 100 now todo that job.
You know, I've done it myself and I, I don't think mine is any
worse than the professionals to tell you true.
Yeah, yeah, I agree with that. You buy the kits.
Well, we sell them at work and we, we, we.

(18:51):
See those? We've got a German at work that
does it on the side and I've seen some of his repairs and I'm
like mate, I'll get better repair out of $30 kit from
Supercheap. To be fair, he didn't, he didn't
have the full vacuum machine. Yeah, but he did have like,
we'll call it pro ish level of gear that I think he stole from
one of those old joints. I think it's sometimes it's just

(19:13):
the crack. The crack ain't, you know, it's
not going to cooperate with you.It is what it is.
Yeah. But yeah, those like the kids
that you can kind of get retail,especially if the crack is just
really also the ship is really, really small.
I would just go with that. Yeah.
I think even he he's like it's aside hustle job, but he still
charges like I think $108.00 plus GST.

(19:34):
Yeah, OK. Wow.
Anthony, updates with you. Well, nothing too crazy, I
probably didn't mention this onehere ages ago, but back in end
of Feb after one of my nights I did have a have an incident in
the territory where I overslept and was then running late to
work and end up reversing into my mum's car that was parked on

(19:55):
the street. So yeah, again, very minor
damage, but it was more just do an insurance claim to get mum's
car fixed more than anything else.
But that was a. That's the tail light on both of
our cars and sort of scuff off the bumper.
As interesting as I got as I gotthat repaired the other leg from
a Capital Smart lovely establishment and they're pretty

(20:15):
average work to be honest. Had to had to bring it back to
them. Oh sorry, first time I brought
it back, the bumper was too light and clearly a different
colour in that instance. So they then resprayed the
entire bumper again. They got the colour better, but
there was a couple of scuffs that need to be polished out and
then had to go back this week, went back on Friday and they

(20:37):
they polished out those couple of scuffs.
But yeah, again, it's, it is sort of what you expect for, for
the service. But you know, in the end we we
got there, that's probably aboutas exciting as we sort of get
for any sort of car updates withme that's more to speaking trial
updates being made for the last little bit.
Yeah, and how is the little 1 going?

(20:57):
Yeah, yeah, she's going good. She's going good.
She's 8 weeks 8 weeks old now asof as of Monday.
Which again, where does the timego?
But now she was asleep on me forprobably the last 2 1/2 hours
after a feed. So she's due for another feed
soon but thought screw it, I'll try and transfer her to A to the
bassinet and Chuck the baby monitor on and get onto the show

(21:19):
for a little bit. So in case I do have to dart
off. I've done, I've done what I can
with what I can, but we'll see how we sort of go.
But yeah, for the most part, everything else is good.
Otherwise, man, just that's good.
And eight sleep, work, repeat and watch her.
Gladly. I've got another two weeks off,
so I've been able to look after her a bit more and help Jess out
a bit more. Yeah, nice.
But that's quite familiar overall, guys.

(21:42):
Yeah, sweet Jim. Anything new with your cars that
you've done recently in the lastweek or so?
Especially I try and wash mine every week.
I did make the mistake of putting some alloy wheels from
an EUCV come on mine which look OK but break dust.
My God I think I'm gonna have nightmares or get a nervous
twitch and have to clean it off every week.

(22:03):
Far up and I think it's due for its next service in.
Well. Probably next week with me.
I'm driving. I do I do quite enjoy,
especially with Honda dealers when I bring them up to book
inner service. I've not for a while with a
Honda dealer perfectly and I'll tell them what the mileages and
they go, Oh, what, what what month interval is that?

(22:25):
And I go, I don't know, 4,000,002 like you can't go by
month interval when it's got only 500,000 KS guys.
But anyway, it's so it's probably yeah, so I'll book that
in again soon. And I think it's got a bit of a
slack sort of cable because it'sgetting a little bit very
sluggish to respond to input. I don't think it's like

(22:50):
injectors or something else. It like it genuinely feels as
though it's sort of like loadingsort of a little bit like when
you've got a virus on your computer sort of thing.
So hopefully it doesn't there will help and yeah, but
otherwise, no, it's it's, yeah, doing what it usually does,
starting every day without any dramas at all.

(23:11):
It's being a Honda, which is a good thing.
Typical, yeah. Thanks with me.
I've had a busy week so I've been driving the MR2 all week,
which has been good. I've been driving, I've been
driving the crap out of it just to enjoy it.
I got some parts that came in the other day that I ordered
from the UK because the UK seemed to be the best part place

(23:32):
to get all part, you know, secondhand parts and stuff for
for this thing. So I got my new oil cooler with
secondhand oil club. It looks to be in good nick.
And I got a whole key, whole keyset for the car.
So I was like, yeah, you know, Ican install these.
So we're started working on that.
Put the boot instant, put the boot one on 1st.
That was easy to 5 minutes go todo the at the driver's door and

(23:56):
because someone had tried to break into the car before, so
that they're just kind of like they plugged up the hole like,
Oh yeah, I'd assume that they just, you know, broke the key
barrel and they've just covered it.
So no one tries to, to put the key in the ignition.
Took the door handle out, took all the covers off and
everything pulled the door handle, door handle off and
there is nothing behind it. So it was just quite literally a
hole. So I was like, great, that

(24:17):
that's, that's interesting. So then I put the new key barrel
in and then put, put the door handle back into the door and
said, where does this click into?
There's like a rod inside the door that opened, you know, that
unlatches and matches the, the, the locking mechanism on the
door missing. I'm like, oh God.
So, so, so when they've taken out the, when they've damaged
the key barrel, they've just removed the whole thing.

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So then I was like, OK, we'll have to open the passenger side.
So as it went to the passenger side, took the door off,
replaced it, took the, took the rod out of that one and had a
spare piece of rod. And I was just bending and
trying to make it work and I kind of made it work and it
works OK. So I'll put the other one back
in and, and as soon as I was tidying everything up, you know,
I was doing it in a pretty good time.
You could I have to use A10 mil spanner in there.

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And of course it's a 10 mil for this next bit and tightening,
tightening. And then it like the spanner
like flicked off and it went into the abyss of the door, but
it went where so like, and I wasjust like, oh man, like I, I
can't get it. I, I tried for 3 1/2 hours last
night to get it out. I got, I went to bed at 1:30 in
the morning because I was tryingto get this damn thing out of

(25:21):
the, out of the pool. So it's, it's, so, you know, how
cars have got like, you know, impact, side impact, like the,
the, the, what are they called the side impact protection, you
know, strengthening bars in the,in the doors.
So in the MR2, it's kind of got that, but it's kind of got like
a like a corrugated roof kind ofstyle and it's going behind that
and that's kind of welded to theskin of the door.

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So for 3 1/2 hours just trying to get it out.
I couldn't get it out. I can't even really see it.
So I decided that has now becomeone of one with the car.
So I put this. So Maddie.
Have you lost just the socket? No the the actual 10 mil
spanner. The spanner.
I was going to say, can you hearit?
Well, I haven't driven the car. I didn't.

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I didn't take it to work today because I was so pissed off at
it. I was like, this is just insane.
Then stuff's like, where the hell have you been?
It's 1:30 in the morning. I'm like.
I don't want to talk about it. Funny story, you've asked I'll
I'll go to the zoo. You need to do a Jeremy Clarke
to where you spin the car for a tunnel upside down.
Yeah, yes. And get it out.
Of that'll that, that'll do it. But I was actually half tempted.

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I'm like, I want to take this freaking door off.
I want to I'm going to take it off and I want to shake it
upside down and just I'm going to I'm going to take off.
So if because I'm going to driveit tomorrow, if the rattle is
prominent, I will be taking the door off this weekend and
shaking the door out and trying to get it out it.
Would absolutely lose your mind if there was a rattle in there
and I kept doing it like I I could picture you stripping that

(26:46):
whole entire car or just like, I'm just going, I'm buying a new
door. No, he likes it original as
possible with, you know, the OEMplus style.
So he's going to drill out the spot welds.
Flipped it off. I kid you not.
I was like, I was like, oh, it'stight.
I'll give it, give it one more for good luck.

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And then it like flipped up because it's like where the
where the bloody nut is. It was right.
Honestly, it's, it's a bot. Actually, it goes, it goes into
the back of the back of the headbackwards in the on the other
side. It's behind the glass.
So you, you got to kind of like you can't, you can't fit a
ratchet in this. You have to use your spanner and
they're like tight, tight, tight, tight, tight.
And then I was like one more forgood luck and, and I was like,

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Oh, no. And I saw it because I had about
the torch on. I just see it go straight,
straight down. I was like, oh, and I was like,
no, it's gone. It's, it's, it's physically
gone. 3 1/2 hours, gentlemen, 3 1/2 hours last night.
I'm trying to get. This down the $1,000,000
question, Maddie. Sorry, Rob, go ahead.
Did you try wire magnets? What did you do?

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Rob, I used the magnet tool. I used the claw tool.
I used the trim removal tools. I used pieces of sheet metal
trying to trying to jiggle it inthere.
I used what else did I end up using?
I was using other different sides of types of magnets I
used. I used a couple more things.
I kind of what I used screwdrivers I used.

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I used like a I even used the stud fighter to see where to try
to find out where I was, but that didn't really help.
That was just that was that was no girl.
I was like maybe this might workmaybe, but I don't know so.
Around about the 1:30 mark, wasn't it?
So I got to it got to like 1:20 in the morning and I'm like,
this is what am I doing with my life?

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This is this is it. So I, I was like, Nah, I'm done.
Like I'm like, it fought me for,for, for that time.
I put the door panel on door cut.
I'm sorry, put, you know, timed it all up close the door and
then I when I went to lock the key, I realised I didn't click
in the the the the last rod thatI was that I had to make.
I'm like, oh, you're kidding. So now the title is going to

(28:51):
come off again, but I'm, I'm kind of done with it.
So I'm like, you know, it's, it can stay like that.
It, it didn't, I, I didn't have a key in it in the last five
years I've owned it. So it's, it's going to, you
know, I can, I can, I can live without for a little bit longer.
All I have to do now I've got one more, I've just got to
change the ignition barrel and then I can, I can have a full
set of, you know, you know, brand new keys that'll, that'll
work for the car. Because I, I did get for

(29:12):
Christmas AMR two key like a, like a, like a, like a proper
replica, like original, you know, really nice key.
And I've been planning to use itlike once I get once I get a
new, you know, a full new set. So that's so losing my 10 mil
span has kind of put a dampener on that like, and I'm like, what
am I saying? What am I trying to find this 10
mil span a bit in my head? I'm like, it's going to rattle,
it's going to annoy me, It's going to ruin my experience with

(29:34):
the car. I'm I need to get it and I
couldn't get it. Even if you don't know, don't
hear it, you're going to know it's there A. 100.
Percent. And that part will just hurt you
spiritually. I think now the really normal
question is, do you know somebody with a scoping camera?
I do not actually. Well, Rob, have you got one?
That's gonna be your best friendin this, I think, given the

(29:54):
amount of tools you've already exhausted in this pursuit.
Get the scoping camera in there.I think I've got a bit cheaper
and it just plugs into your laptop.
Bang, yeah, you are right. I mean, I do know a guy that
works there. I could probably, but yeah, I
might have to get you boys over to give me a hand with it
because I'm, I'm, I was, I'm quite literally about to take

(30:15):
the door off If, if I can't see what the scope be coming, the
doors coming off like I'll, I'lldrive without a door for for a
bit if I have to like it's. Tipped a car, six of us.
Well, we could. It's, it's pretty light.
You can lift it up and just put it upside down.
Otherwise, the next step, get some expanding foam and just
spray it in there and then it won't rattle because it can't.
Go anywhere that's a good idea. Actually, I don't mind that
idea. I don't mind that idea at all.

(30:36):
FD. I'm gonna see how it goes
because I'm gonna drive to work tomorrow and I'm gonna see.
And if it rattles, I'm gonna, yeah, yeah, yeah.
If it rattles, I'm quite literally going to drive it home
and I'm gonna take the door off and I'm gonna, I'm gonna begin.
It's gonna be it's gonna be the process of me yelling at the car
profusely. So yeah, but that was my evening

(30:57):
with the the MR2 last night. But I'm half of that's been
driving really, really well, dropping a little bit cooler
because they've they've obviously just bled the system
and there's a bit of, you know, overflow until that all you know
settles out because it's just had the the whole system redone.
But totally fine. Driving really nicely feels a
lot way more smoother, smoother to drive now that the you know,
the gearbox and everything's allall sorted with the clutch and

(31:21):
that so yeah, really, really enjoying it.
Except for last night. That was that was a bit of that
was a bit of a pain in the ass. But who am I?
Who am I to say anything? That's just just another thing
to add to my life of cars. But but that's your point, Rob,
sorry and and Scotty of of finding a little, you know, a
chip and a din on your car. I was giving the typhoon a clean

(31:43):
and it's got a bottle protector right on that car.
I've got a chip that's just above it and it's a it's a fresh
one too. Like you can see where it must
have been the last one I've driven the car and I was just
like, I'm like, this is just story again.
So I've didn't have a, didn't have a great car week, but the
car's driving well. So stay tuned and find out next
week for for more adventures with Maddie and the rattly door.

(32:04):
But we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll discuss, we'll discuss that.
But anyway, that's my updates, gentlemen.
Moving on to tonight's topic. So a few weeks ago we discussed
The Who bought that, you know, so who actually bought a, who
bought that car when they were new?
And I think we, we all just, we all loved the jackaroo story.

(32:26):
I think the jackaroo was Alan had had convinced that it was,
it was the the the guy that one of the Land Cruisers but
couldn't afford it, bought the Jackaroo to to save his
marriage. And there was the the financial
strain that broke the family's back.
That's it. It's the on the way to becoming
a low income single dad car it. Is so to continue with that,
I've got another six cars we're going to discuss tonight that

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we'll we'll go through and see who bought The Who do you think
bought these new? So the first one is the Toyota
Lexan. So who bought a Toyota?
Listen now, Rob you. Yeah, I believe you were a
Toyota at this time when this when these were new, Correct.
You were, yeah. So who bought Alexan over a
Commodore? And for what reason would you
have bought Alexan over a Commodore?

(33:09):
Can I that's, I think it was a guy who just retired who plays
lawn balls. Yeah.
And bought a new caravan. What at the tow?
One at the tow. But why did you go to it?
Because it's, it's a, it's a Toyota.
It's it's reliable. Yes, no, I.
Don't mind that one. That's a good one.
Yeah, I, I agree with you now, like every time I've seen a

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Lexan, it was especially as a kid, it was always owned by
older people. It was never owned by, by, you
know, the people that owned Commodores and they were always
in a lot better. Nick, like we've always said on
this show, if you had AVN Commodore on your on your
driveway, you made bad life decisions.
But when you had a Lexan on yourdriveway, everyone's like, Oh
yeah, that's right. You know, it was, you know,

(33:53):
it's, it's, it's a solid car. So they never got that stigma to
that that stigma that the old, the old VN had, which is which
is interesting to see. Yeah, I I can't think of any
other reason other than someone that's gone.
Oh yes, it's a good sized, good sized car and Toyota
reliability. So they've gone with that.

(34:17):
That's that's kind of what I wasgoing to power on.
Like the whole idea of like, yes, I'm buying a Toyota.
It it it's the same kind of person that would buy a Holden
and Polar, But obviously the Toyota version of that.
It's like, Nah, mate, I'll buy Holden's over here and then, you
know, they buy a Camry. I'll make Daniel had had a
Holden and Polar in his household as well.

(34:38):
It's just like, I don't know, maybe some people actually got
convinced that they were buying a Toyota.
I'm sure you know, or whatever happened at the dealership
happened at the dealership. But like, you had to have known,
right, that you're buying a Toyota badge Commodore?
Like Rob, were they more expensive than the Holden
counterpart? Like were they more pricier or

(35:00):
were they virtually same price? I.
Think they were touched? Deer on recollection, I remember
when they launched it because I was actually working at Toyota
at the time they actually launched it and that the big who
are about, you know, Lexan and you know how we won America's
Cup and all that sort of stuff. Yeah.
So that's what they sort of based it all around and they had

(35:21):
the nice little, I think a little sticker on the side and
some other little things that sort of changed it with the
actual interior and some little trim, exterior trim bits.
Yeah. Yeah, I don't really know.
Yeah. I can just imagine the Sorry, I
need to cut you off there, just being like an older person who
somebody's like, oh, nice Commodore mate.
And they're like. It's not a Commodore, it's

(35:42):
Lexan. Yeah, you see.
That Toyota bench, yeah, You know, you sit there for an hour
and be like, please, man, I gotta go to my family.
You don't see too. Many around because I think
everyone's converted them back to a Commodore.
That was quite that was done quite often.
Actually, it was it was done quite often.
I went to school with with a kidwho, I mean, you probably you

(36:05):
might, you might have known him Allen, but I won't say his name.
He was a storage holding man. And and he's like, even if I
bought a Camry, it's becoming anApollo.
I don't care. Like he was, he was that he was
that kind of guy. I remember him saying that, that
that line to me because because he saw my mom dropped me off in
the Camry one day and he's like,he bought a tomato.
I'm turning into an Apollo. I'm like, you're an idiot.
But anyway, that's another story.

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So, yeah, but were they, were they better equipped for more
money? Because I'm just trying to
figure like, why would you spendmore money on the Toyota version
of it? Like that's that's the they
would have had to have had more factory kit standard, right?
So apparently according to this is again Wikipedia knowledge, so
I don't know if it's correct. They were only available with AV
six and only automatic. Correct.

(36:48):
Yeah. So it's like realistically,
again, you'll not be able to get.
I'm not saying you know a manualwouldn't necessarily be a
window, but definitely the lack of AV 8 you know you're not
getting. I would say the prime example of
the car then. Imagine a imagine a VN Lexan
with like an A1 UZ like the likea proper VNW.

(37:09):
Oh man, that would have been that would have been special.
That would have been a cool car.I.
Might so suggest too that there might have been a demographic,
especially as we've discussed being older purchasers who might
have being reluctant to try something that wasn't Australian
made in their eyes. And, you know, getting having
more of their older friends stepping into Toyotas rather

(37:30):
that eventually felt reluctant and then sort of went, Oh, well,
you know, kind of a bit of a bridge maybe.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I I can, I cansee that, you know, it was an it
was an affordable bridge into AV6 powered car.
You know, full size luxury car, not luxury, but full size like
full size sedan. So yeah, I can see how they that
that decision could be made, youknow, and and you you probably

(37:52):
would have got better service atat your Toyota dealer anyway and
you would have got better you know, you probably better
warranty and and and stuff like that.
So I remember went forward so the the XF Ute to to Nissan and
and Nissan, we're using it as the the the Nissan mute.
I think it got a better, I thinkit got longer warranty than what
Ford offered. So like, yeah, it's, it's, it's

(38:12):
stuff like that that they did weird, weird, weird things back
then. But I can see how that that
that'd make sense. You know, I remember as a kid
seeing Lexan's quite, quite often, especially when we'd go
to church and there'd be all theold gays in their, in their
Lexans and all the younger guys in their, in their Commodores.
So, so it'd be, you know, it was, it was, it was the car for

(38:35):
the, the, the more esteemed gentleman.
He wanted a bit more prestige intheir, in their badge than, you
know, Toyota over, over a Holden.
So All right, so, so if you had to pick it, it'd be an old man
wanting to tow, meaning, you know, played lawn balls, wanted
to get into a Japanese brand, a proper brand, but didn't want to
quite fully commit to an Australian car.

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And that's where they ended up with the Toyota Lexan.
I like that one. I think that's a good, I think
that's a good, good outcome. Great.
The biggest thing I'd say would be that bridge between Commodore
and and Toyota. Yeah.
Reluctancy. Yeah, I agree with that.
Next one is your sangyongs. So I've got 2 sangyongs tonight.

(39:16):
You're saying young Musso, the original Musso that came out.
Do you remember those though that the big, the big, the big
musos. Now I remember when these were
new and I remember the ad forum.I don't know if you guys
remember the ad forum, but they were always told about how the
Mercedes reliability on my Mercedes engines.
Musso. It was it was always the ad
probably said Mercedes like 10 times and I'm not even I'm not
even kidding. It was it was all you know, I I

(39:38):
loved I loved my Musso. It's, it's got my Mercedes,
Mercedes power car. And then like with Chevy badges
on Commodores, we're seeing Mercedes badges on musos.
Do you guys remember seeing the Mercedes badges on musos?
They were coming out everywhere and I'm like, there's not a
Mercedes. It's a muso.
It's a Sangyong. But, but you know, it was, it

(39:59):
was kind of they did sell quite a fair few of them though, to be
fair. And they were everywhere for a
short amount of time and then they all vanished.
Like I I haven't seen one in years who bought a muso brand
new. Is the same person that bought a
jackaroo or they had a slightly bit more money than the people
that bought a jackaroo? I would suggest it might be sort
of a bit like now with the really, really new Chinese

(40:21):
brands coming in, the people go,oh, it's a brand new car with a
warranty and it's cheaper than the other brands.
And then they would have probably read into the Mercedes
part and thought, oh, see, it's great because I heard people at
the time discussing that too andjust thinking, well, you do you.
But like, you know, try and educate yourself.
Yeah, absolutely. I like that, Jim, because I was

(40:41):
going to say it's, yeah, somebody's just like, I'm going
to buy a new car and this is reasonably priced and they don't
know any better. They're just like, maybe they
buy into a bit of that advertising puffery and they're
like, yeah, I guess I can see the murkiness to it.
There's no murkiness to it. But it wasn't a bad looking car
like it wasn't terrible like like I mean, it wasn't a great

(41:05):
looking car like it like. It's not winning any awards.
I guess compared to the stavic. We're going to cover the Stavic
in a minute, by the way. Generally that's that's that's
that's the next one because I would actually want to know who
bought that car. But the the Moose are in OK in
comparison, like for like like an 8, let's say an 80 series

(41:25):
from the same period daily series is a much more handsome
car, much more, much better built car.
Yeah, I would have said like what you said, Jim.
I think that I think that's a good ugly outcome.
But I also think people that wanted badge snobbery but
couldn't afford badge snobbery, if that makes sense.
So, so yeah, it's, it's Mercedesguts, but it's.

(41:47):
Not a Mercedes, the yuppie that just bought a place in Carlton
or that's trying to make it big at his farm that hasn't really
taken off yet. Look, if, if, if I was in a bar,
right, and somebody's like, yeah, I've got a sag, I'll move.
So it's basically a Mercedes Benz.
I would literally laugh this person out of the bar.

(42:09):
You know, call me cruel, but it's, it's deserved.
You'll be there flashing your muso key with with a stuck on
Mercedes badge on it. You'll be like got a Merc baby
like that's that's. Actually think about the
language of of that particular period in time.
Pretty raw and rough compared towhat was provided within the

(42:29):
Saiyang. Wasn't it like?
Yeah, the kid, the kid in the inthe Saiyang was actually pretty
reasonable for it. Yeah, comparative.
Yeah, comparatively I would agree.
Like you got a lot for your money and then and they weren't
super duper expensive like that.They weren't cheap cars, but
they weren't expensive. So like like I guess if you

(42:49):
bought you bought a toy, if you wanted the, you know, live
axles, the proper 4/4 wheel drive, you know, kind of kind of
action, but then you bought the the the moose.
So if you if you were like, well, I can go off road too.
You know, I can do what you guyscan do.
I can do it better. I can do it with the Mercedes.
So I think that, yeah, I agree with you, Rob.
You know, a bit of a bit of yuppiness, a bit of like, oh,

(43:11):
you know, I don't want to buy Toyota.
I'm going to buy, I'm going to buy this this new brand from
Korea. You know, Korea's taking over
like like the Japanese took over.
Korea's taking over Korea's turn.
Look at look what hang on XL aredoing.
They're they're selling, they became the best selling car in
the country at one point. So if they can do it, moose, I
can do it. And then proceeded to have
hideous reliability. Somebody who was about to be

(43:32):
filled with a lot of regret, Yeah, is somebody who would have
bought a moose or brand new. I like what Rob's saying.
He's someone that's started out on his own construction
business, maybe tradie, but on his own.
I was just about to actually just chime in on that one there,
and I'd say the best way I can describe, I think even for the

(43:55):
modern, I actually saw there wasa clip that went around.
It was pretty amusing and prettyaccurate of describing each sort
of you and the Musso came acrossas your handyman who has a Ryobi
kit and doesn't actually know what's actually going on.
He's probably going to be your client for a Musso.
But when he gets, when he gets out, he's wearing this.

(44:17):
He's got a collared shirt on. He's got his collared shirt on
though when he gets out and his phone's clicked to his belt.
Yeah, yeah. I take offence from that.
I have a Ryobi drill one. Do you?
Have a Moussa. No.
And would you get out of a car with a collared shirt when
you're doing, you know, some, some hard man's work?

(44:38):
I know you're a man that has some high vis in the wardrobe.
Rob definitely does. Real men wear high vis, you
know. No, he's having a go at us, boy,
he's having a go at us. But all right, So would you guys
agree that the Moussa wasn't a great car?
Yeah. I think we're all in the grants

(44:59):
there. Have you guys actually seen a
Moussa recently? I haven't seen one in years.
I think they'll just disintegrate it.
Yeah, I think they all just fellapart.
And because I have not seen one,I have not seen one in years.
I yeah, kind of like, can I remember the last time I've
seen, I've seen, I saw a mousse.Well, I mean, the only thing you
mentioned that one is they actually I was having a look
before I was like, I wonder whatwhether any of them are still

(45:22):
for sale or exist and they they do and they actually have newer
Senyong muso they. Do Yeah, they do, yeah.
And I have a feeling actually, Idon't know whether it's, I
actually have a feeling one of the guys at work who is a
special guy in my office and I'mpretty sure he actually drives a
senyong muso. So I do actually have a feeling

(45:46):
that that they do exist. And I'm pretty sure I see one on
the regular. I just choose to ignore the fact
that that exists in my office. I used to know a guy with a sang
Young Rexton and he, he loved his Rexton.
He's always like the Rexton's best car I've ever bought at the
standing. I'm like yeah, man, Cool.
Yeah, yeah, you do you, bro. That's a yeah.
If you're happy, I'm happy for you.
And then you delete on my Facebook.

(46:08):
I'm probably gonna have to jump off guys a little 1 so due for a
feed. I might try and jump back on a
bit later on, but if not, have agood night and talk to you guys
soon. Yeah, you too.
Worries mate. Yeah, So sticking with, you
know, Sangyong because, because we're we're not bashing Sangyong
here. You know, we're not, we're not,
we're not, we're not doing that.We, we're just.
We're just. Sticking I am, but we should

(46:29):
continue. What the guy is the Stavic now?
It's a car we got to talk about because the options when the
Stavic was around were your Tarago, your Kia Carnival, your
Grand Voyager. I'm trying to think what else in
terms of like big, like kind of ish people movers like that
because like your Odyssey's a bit too small.
It's a bit of a small size people mover.
So I'm not going to put Odyssey in there.

(46:51):
And your second hand esteem is because they because they're all
estimates, because they were just everywhere and you're
stabbing. So that's kind of your that's
kind of your five really. What made you say no to all
other of those options to buy the stabbing?
What? Why did you do that?
You were trying to start a funeral business and this car is
going to double, double as your hearse.

(47:14):
It's got the, you know, it's gotthe bubble part of the baggage
ticket, the seats. Just throw the bloody coffin in
there. You know, like, otherwise it
makes no sense. I'm trying to give this person
an out. You know, maybe they had dreams
of starting a funeral business and they're like, you know what?
I've got to bounce the family car and the hearse.
I can't afford both. Screw it.

(47:36):
I'll get you know this Stavic. Like I'm just, you know, and,
and believe me, the other options aren't great.
Like, like, I mean, the carnivaland Toyota are probably the ones
you'd go for, but like even overa, a bloody Chrysler Voyager or
a grand Voyager, you've you've taken a stabby like that's it
must have you must have got a real good, good price on the day

(47:57):
because when you went and pickedup, you'd be like, Oh my God,
what have I done? What did I buy?
What? Picture the people that actually
own or drive them because I eventhe larger families, you know,
like the Islanders and stuff, they always have a large
families and stuff. They don't even go anywhere near
them. They're in Tarago.
This is where. This is where they're at.
They're in. Reliability is is key.

(48:18):
Reliability is king man reliability they're.
Not going for something like that.
I saw, I saw I saw like a reel the other day and this they'll
talk about their dream cars and this the island guy's like, man,
my dream cars are Tarago. And it was that was the best.
It was I I laughed. But yeah, like even even they're
in Tarago. It's like who bought a stabbic.
I'm wondering if maybe it might have been an art teacher.

(48:41):
An art teacher. Yeah, I'm saying that because
I've, I've had some that have made some bold car choices over
the years and I'm wondering if they were like, I'm not driving
one of the other bricks. I can't for one anyway, this
thing looks different and you know where whatever outfit
they're wearing as well doesn't really make any sense to anybody
else. But then and so they're like,
I'm just going to go with it andmake a whole personality so.

(49:03):
So you're saying they're making a statement with this car?
Oh yeah. 100% because like I guess she was blind and couldn't
drive. They're just like.
I like it. So as an art teacher myself, I
know, I know Artie teachers can be, can be be an arty farty.
I know I worked with them, I went to uni with them, I went to
art school. I know what it's like.

(49:24):
That's a big stuff, That's a bigcall.
But I will agree with you because one of my art lecturers,
she drove a PT Cruiser. That was her car.
I won't prove it. So, so now that you've said
that, I'm like, you know what, Ikind of get it.
I kind of get it. But they've bought OK, so, so
the art teacher's bought it because it's got a lot of room
to configure your, your, your big canvases and stuff in there.

(49:46):
Well, I was also thinking that, you know, when they looked at a
Tarago or at a Kia, they sort of, you know, start yawning and
falling asleep and then they sort of went, you know, maybe
this is sort of like Picasso before the C4.
Picasso, it's very cubist, doesn't it?
It's a cube on wheels. So while you're having dreams of

(50:07):
looking at Guernica in when looking at the the Sangyong
Stavic, but surely you would you'd have taste like like
there's there's so. People bought that Mercedes
Navara, so no, they don't. Well, that is, that is, that is
true. But also.
But I mean, here's the thing, right?
Like there's, there's something,there's some things that are so
cute, so ugly that they're cute,like a pug, like pug pugs are

(50:29):
cute. Like, you know, they're, they're
so ugly that they're cute. This is just, it's everybody
I've spoken to. Now, I'm not saying it's, I mean
it's probably up there with the most hideous cars of all time.
But everyone I've said spoken toabout the stomach, if I sort of
imagine they go like they get that chill of like, like that of
the stain. There's not many cars that I can
say that people have had that that feeling towards.
Maybe some desperate businesses or family owners saw a bargain

(50:55):
and they were, I think, very competitively priced.
They were they. They definitely were.
And you would have had to have gotten a good deal to get to get
one. Like, yeah.
Apparently a lot of them were used as airport taxis because
obviously if the extra seating in the space for luggage.
OK. So I guess there's utility in
it. I wouldn't get into a taxi.
That's you know. No, thanks.

(51:18):
I'll walk. Yeah.
I'll take my bags and move. I think it comes down to there's
so many people out there that don't don't care.
Yeah, yeah. You know, they just see it as
something that gets them from point A to point B, and they
don't care how ugly it is. And people just don't have taste

(51:40):
well. The.
The care. Factor I feel is always like I
don't really like care about cars or whatever.
You still buy something that's normal looking.
This is again going on to the gym thing like a hipstery choice
in a way. Yeah.
I feel there's there's there is a choice in this.
Well, you'd have to. You'd have to walk into the
dealership in the 1st place likeyou're making that conscious

(52:02):
decision. I'm going to go look at this
stomach. Dealership comes to you.
I'm knocking. On the door.
Yeah. Well, are they like Kirby vacuum
sales with like? Maybe they just targeted a bunch
of people with cataracts. If you find out like incidents
of cataracts with like people that bought the stomach and it's
like 1 to one, it's like, Oh yeah.

(52:25):
But Jim, I'm actually with you on this one, though.
I think, I think people bought that car just to say something
like that's it's such, it's a polarising vehicle to look at
like it's, it's, it's. Up in life.
So while we've. Given up in life?
Yeah. Look, whatever they're saying,
I'm not interested in hearing it.
I'll tell you what. Yeah.
Sorry, sorry. Maybe.

(52:48):
Maybe it was a not so subtle wayof saying.
Hey, separate bedroom at this point.
It was a cry for help it. Was a cry.
So what was that, Jim? I said maybe it was a subtle
sign to say I think we need separate bedrooms at this point.
Well, I mean, I mean, at that point, you, you know, if you're,
if you're a devout Catholic, you're, you know, you, you've

(53:09):
had so many kids, you need to put them somewhere like, OK, we
definitely. And that'd be the final straw.
We're we're definitely have, youknow, separate bedrooms.
Yeah. Because I, because I, I don't
want to have any more, anything more to do with this.
So yeah, look, I'm, I, I get all, all points of that.
But what we've got, we've got topick, we've got to pick a, a
demographic. So a final demographic.

(53:30):
So Jim's saying an Artesia, Rob's saying a person that's
given up on life. Scotty's just like a blind
person, a blind person alum's like with cataracts.
So if you put them all together,you can, you can get, you can
get some. There's your demographic.
There you go. You've said no.
You've said no to the Tarago, you said no to the to the

(53:51):
Carnival, you've said no to the even the Grand Voyager.
There you go. That that that's your stomach
bio the right. You know what it is?
It's an it's an art teacher that's been teaching for 40 plus
years and she's just, she's done.
She hates the kids. Like I mean with a passion.
She just goes in and just lets loose on these kids.

(54:16):
And she drives up because. She doesn't let the kids go to
the toilet. They're like missing.
No, no, no, no. She's like, you just went to the
toilet three hours ago, you're not going now.
She doesn't have any at home either.
And she bought. She's got, she's got 10 cats.
And she's bought this car because she just hates everybody
at this point. She's like, she's like, you

(54:37):
know, I want to buy the most vile things so people don't want
to see me coming and. She can take all the 10 cats to
the vet at once. Each of one seat does in the
basket every. She doesn't use the basket, she
just throws them in the van. Just.
The vet just covered it at here.Yeah, and fur.
Balls all she talks about. I'm I'm with her.

(55:01):
I'm, I'm, I'm with, I'm with Mavis.
I'm with you. I'm with you, Mavis.
Yeah, we've. You've been teaching for a long
time, Mavis. And I I get it.
I get your pain. She.
Quits like the family thruster. You know, National Lampoon's do
a dealership, 40 bucks, he comesout with that.
You think you hate it out, just wait till you're driving, he

(55:22):
says, I think I think he says that is the one that that the
guy uses now. Speaker staying with hideous
cars. I'm going to I'm going to give
you one that's a precursor, the Kia Tasman.
Who do you think is going to buythe Kia Tasman?
Because that is polarising to say the least, Rob.
Who's been hanging on to replacetheir Austin Tasman?

(55:44):
No one or a business manager or a business that wants one of
their sales reps to leave the company.
Yeah, I I agree. Did you see how much you how
expensive it is too? It's like it's over 70 grand.
It's it's OK. I get that they're trying to be
different and and that's the whole, that's the whole idea.
But my God, like if the stomach's bad, I don't know what
this is. This is this is not another one.

(56:05):
It's. It's 100% site managers for like
construction type businesses that are going green.
Yeah, OK. Yeah.
You'll be, you'll be the ones that would have normally gone
for the Raptor just just because, you know, because it's
what everyone goes for, but they're going to go for this
instead and have all the attachments and stuff on it and

(56:27):
it never goes off road or anything.
And he just goes up to the business sites and has a look
and that's it. And off he goes.
For the the company newsletter they have a picture of him with
a high vis vest on the hard hat.It'd be like, you know, Jim from
general man, like here from decisions.
Yeah, regional manager Jim here,you know.
Sorry, Jim, I'm using your name there.

(56:47):
It's totally unrelated, but just.
Yeah, as all the sites ensure safety is up to check and this
and that. And immediately he throws a high
vis off. He throws a hard hat.
You know, he's just got his collared shirt.
That's nicely been impressed. Neil Gates.
Genie's Tasman too, while he's at it.
Yeah. He's got all the gear and no
idea as they would say that's that's a.

(57:10):
That this car won't be, you know, even be gone in two years
or they're updated in two years.I think it'll be gone in two
years, Rob. I I think that it's going to be
such a sales flop. I mean, I could be wrong.
It could be like kind of like a cult classic, like a like APT
cruiser, which is somehow, you know, it got cold status where,
you know, they'd be like it's sougly that, that I kind of want

(57:31):
it. Yeah, that's a that's a that's a
tough one. It's a tough, it's a tough one.
Who's gonna buy it now? I I I'm in agrees with you, but
I also think it's hear me out. It's your, your mum wins the
Lotto and knows you've been trying, working so hard and, and

(57:53):
you're, you're, you're an apprentice on an apprentice wage
and you're driving a, you're currently driving like a mom's
hand me down VY Commodore waggonwith all your tools in the back
of it. And the Arson's on the ground
and it's struggling and it's on it's last legs with 450,000
kilometres. And your mom knows you wanted
to, wanted to buy a Ute and she,she goes to, she goes to a few

(58:13):
dealerships and they're, they're, they're all out of
stock. But here there's like 6 in the
lot because nobody bought them. She's like, I want to get that.
And that's, that's the, and thenshe's like, look, son, I've,
I've won the Lotto. You know, I'm, I'm going to, you
know, the boys are at work are going to make fun of your
Commodore. Now here's your new Kia Tasman
son. And then he's going to be like,
the boys at work are going to make, make my life even worse.

(58:33):
So I think that's that's going to be your, your potential, your
potential. It reminds me of that of the
meme with the kid and the mum and the kid goes, but in this
instance the kid goes, I want to, I want a Ford Ranger, she
goes, but we got a Ford Ranger at home and it's one of those.
It's the. It doesn't, yeah.

(58:55):
If my mum won the lottery and didn't get me a bloody Silverado
or around 2500 mate, I'm gettingdisowned myself.
Well, she, she see my mum wouldn't say them and be like
these American things are too big, but I know he wants a Ute
and you know, key is a good brand.
They've been around for a while.You know, I'm gonna I'm gonna go
to go to care and and here, son,I've got this on a great deal on

(59:16):
a you know, it's all paid in cash.
So the. Government might have some
sympathy and and scrap the utex on it as well because it's
really an ugly you, so maybe they'll sell a few without the
tax. Well, question, do you think
it's going to be here in, in thenext two years?
That's the big question. No, no, Jim.
I think they will. It might because I think they
might decide to with a corporatefacelift.

(59:38):
Yeah. That's what I was thinking.
It'll be around, but it's going to look different.
Right. I think they have to be quick to
bring in their hybrid version slash.
I think they've got EV on the plan as well for it, but the
very least the hybrid and I think that'll keep them going if
they just keep it as the diesel kind of system as it is,

(59:59):
probably not. I think they're, they're too far
into it to back out now. Like they've invested way too
much money into, into this programme to, to kind of back
out after two years. I mean, I mean, they're probably
looking at Mercedes with what they did with the X Class and
said, well, then the Max house on there said what, 3-4 years?
And then they pulled, they pulled the pin.
So I think they're like, well, we can't do that.
We can't be a Mercedes X Class. We need to have a product that

(01:00:22):
we're going to have to just push.
It's kind of, it's kind of like the, it's going to be the AU
Falcon of utes isn't it really? It's but they're getting the 80
Falcon sold, so that's that's a bit of a weird thing.
Hard to compete what's already out there.
And you? Compete with the Ranger.
But dude, it doesn't compete with the Chinese stuff like, you
know, like the the BYD Shark 6 is is a far better vehicle, you

(01:00:43):
know, and it's actually you know, and you're getting getting
quite a quite a good, quite a good car for the for the money.
I don't know man, like. Yeah, like if if you're going to
have one of them, you might as well have the T MU F-150.
Correct. Yeah.
You know, like nice and easy. It looks the part like.
I don't know if it goes apart but.
Plus, if you want a fleet, you're not going to get a fleet

(01:01:05):
of them. You just get the base model for
ranges and you get a whole bunchof them.
Yeah. It's way cheaper and easier than
getting a whole bunch of Casmans.
Yeah, and and I guess they don'thave the the pedigree or the
slash, you know, known reliability yet in that space.
So, yeah. But then again, they'll be like,
but the Chinese, we just come out with all these, all their
cars. Yeah, that's because been priced

(01:01:26):
accordingly and they don't look like a toad.
So it's going to be, you know, it's going to be an interesting,
interesting time for for Kia. I think.
I think they're I think they're too far in that they've just got
to commit. They've got to be all in now.
Like that'd be, that'd be a buyer.
I can, yeah. But I definitely think they're
best finding ground if they're going to make it succeed will be
in that hybrid to electric kind of range.

(01:01:48):
Yeah. Yeah.
And you're right. And maybe a corporate buyer
might buy if they throw in free servicing, free this, free that,
guaranteed buy back after three years, they might sell a couple.
Yeah. Maybe what's the space A?
Fleet manager who already buys alot of Kias and stuff might just
kick the box and add that to thelist as well.

(01:02:08):
Yeah, Yeah, that's an option, yeah.
They'll try flogging it off through your corporate lease
plans through Maxi or something like that.
Yeah, they'll do you a special deal.
Who next one who bought a Volvo 850R?
So this is their hot, hot Volvo,you know the the turbocharged

(01:02:29):
flying brick, the cool one that everyone remembers going around
race tracks. But who bought that car,
especially in Australia, like who was who was The Who was the
buyer for that car? Because you had to turn down
BMWM threes, you had to turn down C 36 AM GS.
You had to turn, you had to turndown a few other European stuff
to buy A5 cylinder front wheel drive, manual waggon or or or.

(01:02:52):
Sedan. That's an easy 1, isn't it?
Well, you're going to say like graphic designers or Oh no.
It'd be sort of fairly very welloff in a suburb, like a in a
city suburb family of, you know,2-3 kids where it's this second
car that the wife drives and they've got a pretty good

(01:03:14):
business going. OK, that's a fair.
I'm going to riff off that, Rob,and say, yeah, well, off Eastern
European immigrants who were maybe looked out upon by some of
the more luxury dealers and decide to take their money.
Oh. OK.
Yeah, you know, see, I. Like more Aussies?

(01:03:35):
Yeah, I've seen a couple of my fair share of, we'll call it.
Yeah, well, Eastern Europeans would be the nice word driving
these around, but then again, they could have been second
earnest. My first was sinking the die
hard touring car people because I guess even during that during

(01:03:55):
that era of touring cars, even Aussies were out there buying
new Fords and Holdens and that'swhat was pushing those brands
big time. And I was thinking those kind of
people watching this waggon hammering around and racing, not
sure if it was televised much because it was mainly in the
British touring cars. So I'm not sure in Australia if

(01:04:19):
it was televised or if they wereable to see much of it back
then, but I was kind of leaning towards that.
But then Rob brings up a pretty good point too, where it's more
of because it is a waggon, but it's like top of the range
waggon. It's going to be not the guy's
car, it's going to be the woman's car.
Because it kind of reminds me that I've seen previously is the

(01:04:43):
the male that makes all the all the money, I guess sounding
sexist as. But anyway, he buys the wife a
car, but doesn't buy like the base model version of something.
He always gets the Top Model of something, but it's a practical
version of it. So it's not going to be a 2 door

(01:05:04):
M3 or anything. It's going to be the four door
M5 or the M5 touring or something instead.
You know, it's not going to be Yeah.
So I feel like, yeah, we need a waggon, we need the room for the
kids. He's got his own sports car, the
BMW M3, that he drives to work, and this is what she gets.

(01:05:25):
Yeah, I don't mind that one, Jim.
I was thinking that might be purchased by a chiropractor
who's just moved into a suburb. It like, oh, I don't know, maybe
Brighton or something. And there Mrs Is the president
of the private school Parents and Friends Council.
Yeah, yeah. And.

(01:05:46):
Need something to show off because she's fallen a little
bit behind in the currency with her friends.
Yeah, I, I, I think that's a good one.
Yeah. She's she's she's head of the
parents of friends. She's on school council.
Yeah, I'm, I'm, yeah, I'm all the board and all the board with
that. Yeah.
Thinking out like the people that bought those cars new,
because I got a friend who who bought AC-70 convertible

(01:06:10):
recently, like a 2000 and one C70 convertible 5 cylinder turbo
thing off the original owners inBRAT and you know, and they've
had it since new and, you know, they were, you know, quite well
to do massive powers, etcetera. You know, and they're and
they're like full car was reallywell looked after and they were
that very much that type of theyfinished their their their words

(01:06:32):
with an extra syllable kind of kind of people, you know, they
they they're you know, they're they're a bit more they they
look down at us northern northern folk.
So yeah, it was it was I can seethat they're the people that
people that probably would have bought would have bought that
car brand new. Yeah, I think that I think
that's AI think that's a good, good guess.

(01:06:54):
Now my last one for this eveningbefore we get to the quiz is,
you know, I'm not having a go atyou Alan, but who bought a
Suzuki SX4 brand new? And I know your parents did.
Yep. But besides your parents, who
were they? Who was that car marketed
towards? Because it it was not a good
crossover. It was not a good hatchback.

(01:07:15):
It was just a car that didn't really fit in any category.
And I don't know who would have bought that car over, I don't
know, you know, a Corolla or a Mazda 3.
Well. My great aunt also bought one,
although she lives in in Texas and she is a Catholic convert,

(01:07:39):
but she only goes to Mass in Latin and she'd driven her last
car into the ground and needs something.
I think it was to do like the three hour return trip to get to
church. And so that was just convenient
and she couldn't care less aboutwhat it was as long as it went.
And I think that's I think that's the way that came out of
her mouth. So that's very.
Important. It's an auntie's car.
It is. It is such an auntie's car.

(01:08:00):
You're absolutely right. It is absolutely Auntie's car.
It, it gives you that it's, it'sthis is a crossword feel of it's
high up enough that it kind of lets you feel like you're not
sitting low to the ground. And you can, as my parents
describe it, you can just slide into it rather than have to sit,
you know, or climb, which especially as you get older, you
know, that starts to matter. Hopefully that doesn't matter

(01:08:22):
for me. But, you know, you're my kid.
It already matters. But yeah, so it's because I
guess the seat's so close to hiplevel, it really helps out
there. And then, you know, it's not so
large that, you know, especiallygiven it's era of no cameras,
that sort of thing, it's difficult to park.

(01:08:42):
And while you're foregoing kind of any other benefit, you know,
you're losing the rest of the benefits from the SUV of the
large size of storage capacity. You know, you're basically
trading that off for good parking ability.
And then you're trading away everything from, you know, a
sedan or something smaller as well with the extra weight.
You're kind of trading all thosefor that little, little benefit.

(01:09:04):
And I guess it's worth it for those people.
It was worth it for my mom. She's very happy.
She misses that car sometimes. She's like, I want my car back.
Tell your friend Nathan I want it back.
For me, this car to use, like you said, Scotty, definitely an
auntie's car, definitely a person's, you know, a person
like that who wants something easy to get in.
For me, it's a person's last carthey bought.
It's like, you know, your kids are gone.

(01:09:25):
You're a grandparent, you downsize your home.
You don't you or, or you're recently widowed and, and
you've, and you've, you know, you want to get rid of the big
old bends that's in the, it's inthe garage.
So you move that on and you wantsomething small that's easy to
park and easy to get in your garage.
And it's, you know, easy to sit in, you know, because because
you can just slide into the car yields, as you said, you don't
have to like hop down or hop up into it to slide across.

(01:09:49):
You know, I think that people, you know, these, these
particularly, particularly women, I'm not, I'm not being
having a go or anything, but I think that would have found this
car, you know, really good value, plenty of cup holders,
plenty of this, plenty of that slide into it.
Easy to go cheap, cheap to run, cheap or cheap ish to run
because they were quite heavy onfuel, but cheap to fix because

(01:10:10):
it's a Suzuki, you know, and just as a last car, like, you
know, it's, it's a car that endsup with your in your estate and
it goes to the local guy that sells that's using it for Uber
eats as an Uber eats car. That's where it meets us.
Device, it initially goes to your grandkids and like I don't
want this shit. It's funny you say that as like

(01:10:32):
the last car, because obviously they don't sell the FX4 anymore.
Yeah, I feel like in a lot of ways the Subaru XV has kind of
picked up that mantle. Yeah.
Because like the amount of, especially when I lived in
Canberra, nearly, I'd say 90% ofthe old people I saw were
driving those. Yeah, I'd agree.

(01:10:53):
With that, and they're very much, I'm not saying they're on
their last car, but if anyone's gonna be on their last car, it's
probably them. Yeah.
It was just that easy to get into kind of that big enough to,
you know, make things easier andthen also not too big that
you're you're crashing into people because you're already
going to do that in parking lots.
Yeah. What I really wonder though is
who bought the SX4 as a sedan? Yeah, they did have a sedan

(01:11:14):
version of that. You are absolutely right.
Like sociopaths. Well, there you go.
And there you go, Jim. There's your answer.
Now. That's your.
I feel that's pretty no no. That being said, I've never met
anyone that bought an SX4 sedan so I could be wrong, but that'll
be my guess. Just starting out.

(01:11:36):
Well, that is. That's tonight's rendition of
Who bought that? Tonight's rendition of alum
insulting people that bought cars.
Cars, yeah. Well, I mean, that's the you
kind of, you kind of, you kind of have to, it's not
discriminate, but discriminate because there's a time of people
that bought their car, like essentially like, you know,
you're not, you're not saying you know who, who, who didn't
buy the car. Like, yeah, that's the

(01:11:57):
demographic. That's, you know, it's like,
it's like whenever the time I see like, you know, you know,
old people driving a Ford Fairlane or something, or an Ltd
or a cow or a Caprice, that's, that's the demographic right
there. They didn't need a big car, but
they've got one and they're like105 years old.
They're still driving. And the and the edges of the
bumpers are so scratched up because the cars are so long
they can't see the edges of it. But that's the demographic you

(01:12:18):
bought. Yeah, You let me know, Sir.
You, you, you kind of hit that car on the way and he's like,
huh, Drive off. Well, actually I'll, I'll make a
disclaimer on that. The Ek I got, that's what
happened to it towards the end of its life as its last owner,
every corner was really scratched and his son said, dad,
please put a camera in. So I was reversing camera in but

(01:12:41):
the last owner drove until he was 98 so.
That's impressive. That's that's, that's, that's a
good innings to to be driving a cartel.
Yeah, yeah, I, I again, I feel bad for anyone that was in
parking lots with them because the Lord knows that didn't
happen at home. So I think we've established the

(01:13:05):
people that have that have bought these cars new.
Now if you guys had the pick oneto to own out of out of the list
that we've covered today. So let's let's cover them, the
Lexan, the A50R, the Essex 4, the Stavic, the Musso and the
Kia Tasman. What would you guys have if you
had to pick 1A? 50 RA. 50R Scotty.

(01:13:26):
Yeah, same. Yeah, Rob.
Geez, the Lexan. Lexan, Jim.
I reckon I'd buy the Stavic and then go to Sakura and just watch
all the hate I get. Yes.
At your own club, even if it's just one member you.

(01:13:48):
Yeah. Because I hate them too.
But you know, might as well steer the part.
Absolutely. The So Good, the founding and
only member of the Sangyong Static Appreciation Society.
But it'll be, it'll be a stabbing gate, whereas I had, I
had laser gate earlier this year.
But we'll do it. We'll talk about that.

(01:14:09):
Yeah, Nah. But anyway, can we can we all
buy a stabbing? Can we just go in and buy a
stabbing and just bring it to secorific thing next year?
Like just and I want to see the look of that guy's face when I
drive in. Hey, it's Asian mate.
Like you know, you didn't let mein last year with my laser
almost. You know you're not going to
you're going to let me in with this.
You want to put the Mercedes badges on it first too?

(01:14:30):
Absolutely. AMG badges too.
It's an AMG. Imagine that there's an M156 out
of AC 63. You know, 6.2 in a stabic.
That'd be that'd be something cool.
Yeah, I was going to say put theC63 badge on as well.

(01:14:52):
Why not? Why not?
Well, they did do an R63 so you know the R class that are that
are the big waggon. That'll be kind of you people.
They didn't R 63. So so that is you could put it
R63 AMG badge on it. That would be funny.
But anyway, it is time for the Car Talk car quiz made by Mr

(01:15:13):
Scotty Doe Johnson. So we've got four players, Jim,
Rob, myself and Alan, Scotty Doe, the floor is yours.
I'll say that Maddie's already bribed me so.
Yeah. He already knows all the
answers, just so you know. I will say, Jim, you're, you're
well versed in the rules of the game.

(01:15:33):
I was going to explain to you the rules, but I think you know
the rules. Yeah, Jim, no shenanigans are.
Right. No shenanigans.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You got to buzz in with your
name. So you can you say, you guys say
Jim and then you know, you know,obviously Scotty will, will,
will will hear whoever calls 1st.
And if you've called, you'll, you'll be first to to give an
answer if, if it's wrong, everyone else gets to go.

(01:15:54):
And then it's up to the quiz master if he chooses to, I
guess, you know, let everybody back in if it's a, if it's a
tight question, but. And I'll do my best to not do an
Ed Bunting impression as well. Yeah, and then we'll, we'll,
we'll have. Well, look, my goldfish's cat
bought it new. And then my, you know, it was
this, this, this, I'm pretty sure.
Talking about Australian delivery or oh boy.

(01:16:19):
Poor Red Noddy to defend. Himself, he's not even to defend
himself. Sucker.
Do I love you guys? You guys love me.
Live every Tuesday. All right, Scotty down.
Take it away. It's a good mix of just some
random questions with some motorsport questions and stuff.
And then to finish it off, I gota brochure question.

(01:16:40):
Lovely, lovely all. Right question #1 An F1 driver
used the pseudonym Franz Herman.Who was it?
Franz Herman. Yeah, it's just recent been
popping up everywhere. Rob, Rob.
Rob. Rob, Rob, Rob.
Max Verstappen. Correct.
Now this happened at the NurburgRing.

(01:17:02):
What Car was he testing? Oh, the Lego car.
Matthew, I'm going to say he wasin a.
Car the the. The reason why he changed his
name because he was in a car that he shouldn't have been in.
So I want to say he was testing a a BMW3M3 or something.
No, Alan, you're on the you're. On the right.
Track as in thinking of a. Different kind of manufacturer

(01:17:25):
car, Alan. I reckon he was testing some
kind of Ferrari, yeah. Can I get half point?
For it, I'll give you half a point.
Yeah, .5. Yeah.
So Jim and I think. Rob's still got a chance to to.
Answer. I'm stumped.
Yep, you're you're out. So it's a Ferrari?
Or some description, Rob, I don't know which model, got no

(01:17:48):
idea. Well, it's not a model that you
can just buy off the shelf or anything.
It's a 296GT3 race car. So he just, he flew in, went
down a full tank of gas, went around, did one lap and got like
a lap record and then just left.Of course he did.
That's what. He did so See, if that was me, I

(01:18:09):
would have changed. My name to Phil in.
That would that would, that would be, that would be my name
question #2 the 2025 Cooper. Tavascan, I hope I say that
right. Tavascan got four stars on the
ANCAT rating. What was it missing to get 5
stars? It was missing a feature which
made it not get 5 stars. Lane departure warning Matthew

(01:18:31):
Lane. Departure warning?
No, it's going to be one of those wanky little things that
that all new cars have to have and what I call them warnings.
For rest, rest break. Warning.
Not one of those, Jim. Jim Yeah.
Was it speed? Sign recognition.

(01:18:51):
Yeah, it was. Yeah, really.
Speed sign. Recognition didn't have that.
That's a. Safety feature, Yes, now.
Geez, I mean. We've discussed this.
My. DMX one occasionally says 130
and I'm like I don't know what you saw that sign but if the car
says if the car says it I. Guess go check Jim.

(01:19:13):
And Rob are winning on one element. .5 myself I get the
score 3 *** tell me the the manufacturer.
Who made the naked? Oh, Matthew.
Matthew, OH. It's a Japanese car.
Was it? Daihatsu.
So what's it was a Daihatsu naked?
The the Japanese do not get the English language at all, do you

(01:19:33):
think? Let's be honest.
So good. Yeah, it was.
Succeeded. By the Daihatsu streaker, you're
an idiot. All right, for engine code nerds
out there. What's the engine code for the
BMW E46 M3? Matthew.

(01:19:54):
Matthew. That would be.
The S. 50 SS 54 S 54, correct. I was going to get S 52 but.
I think that was the E36 so so I'm not sure I just remember S

(01:20:15):
54 we're. Going to move into a couple more
motorsport questions. Question #5 Which F1 driver was
recently sacked? Matthew.
Matthew, just I think. I think I heard Rob before I
heard said my name. Oh, did you?
Give it to Rob. Yeah, OK, doing.

(01:20:37):
Yes, it was. Jack doing, he's not doing too
well. So you did that?
Yeah. Well done.
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well done. Yeah.
Thank you. Thank you.
Thanks for that, Maddie. Yeah, it's all good, mate.
I I. I want to win fair and.
Square, because Alan will will inquire.
I would have called shenanigans on that one.
Yeah, there you. Go.

(01:20:58):
You would have called it too. Question #6 The supercars.
Raced on the weekend. What track?
Matthew? Yeah, Matthew I.
Think. Were they in pukukoi overseas?
It's the name of the track. Probably the name of the track,
but it. Was it wasn't in Pukukoi?
Though was it? I don't think this track is in.

(01:21:20):
New Zealand. No, OK, I'm out.
I thought. I thought they did new.
Zealand recently. Not the name of the track, but.
Yeah, I I don't think it is. Missed it on the news?
Didn't get to hear about it. That's the thing, supercars.
There isn't much about it anymore, not nothing like you.
You barely hear about it at all.And I used to be.
Obsessed with it now. I don't know.

(01:21:43):
Yeah, no, nothing. The track is definitely
Australia. I know where it is.
Let's closest state or I say QLD.
No column, I say. Tasmania.
It's Tasmania, but what's the? Name of the track.
I'll take a closest state. I agree to that.

(01:22:04):
I'll give you a .5. Done.
I'm living on these point fires,does anyone want to?
Say what the track is that's in Tasmania.
It's as soon as you say I'm going to be like you idiot, how
did you not? Remember, it's not.
It's like it's not MEC Park. Or I don't even think they race
in Ormond Park name I think. Ormond Park's gone.
I'm gone. Yeah, it's closed.

(01:22:25):
That's in New South Wales. MEC Parks is.
SA Mount Cambier, been passed itseveral times. 2 words wheel
out. Out, yeah.
Women's planes. Oh.
Simmons Planes. That's where they were at.
Yeah, I know I'm a tough one because I mean, you don't hear

(01:22:48):
about that very. Often.
And I thought it'd be a tough question and I just wanted to go
to show that supercars ain't popular anymore.
Yeah, yeah. It's a shame.
You need to do something they do.
And here's. One's for us.
It'll be. Their hype man.
Racing or something? They've got to do homework.
At cars again. They've got to, They've got to.

(01:23:08):
You know, make it interesting because it's just been, I mean,
they've dropped the touring car name because they're not even.
Touring cars. Touring cars?
Yeah, they're not. They're bespoke, yeah.
It's trash, yeah. So they should.
Get like you know? C60.
Threes and M Threes and and justput roll cages in them and and
go for it. Yeah, that'd be great.

(01:23:29):
Would be fun to watch, yeah. All right.
Question #7. The first.
Chevy Camaro to come off the factory line was which colour?
I'm going to go for it, Rob. No black.
You'd be all right. Yep.
It. Was black.
Well done you champion. My guess would have been blue,

(01:23:52):
yeah. What is it?
A blow? I guess.
Yellow. Is that a white?
Black, white or yellow? One of those I was going to.
Say blue with a white stripe, but that's a.
Question #8. What auto brand?
'S name is an Italian acronym. Auto brand's name is an Italian
acronym. Is this like a?

(01:24:15):
Car manufacturer's name, huh? Yep, it's a car manufacturer.
Italian. Itself, you'd say.
OK, so. Matthew, Matthew, is it Fiat?
It is. It's Fiat.
Fiat is an acronym. I did not know that.

(01:24:35):
There you go. No, neither did I.
If you have a look and type in Fiat.
Acronym. It says that it's it's Italian.
I'm not even gonna bother but yeah, you can do your search and
have a look. Fix it again, Tony.
That's what I. But yeah, I didn't know that.
Fiat is an acronym. Question #9 Mr Ralph Teeter was

(01:24:56):
a blind mechanical engineer who created this car feature.
What is it? Oh, Matthew, Matthew.
That's. Cruise control, isn't it?
Yes, it is. I.
Remember reading that? That's the guy that was blind.
Did cruise control. I'm like, well, at least you
wouldn't see what was going to hit him if that's if that's the

(01:25:17):
case, pretty clever of him, I must say.
Very just kind of. Bring up a question just so I
can read it, because it's a brochure question.
Blank is the blank for the driver, who is a bit of a purist
at heart. Your first glance will tell you
this is no ordinary family car. Alloy mag wheels, flared

(01:25:38):
skirting and front and rear spoilers give a hint of the
performance capabilities of blank.
Under the bonnet you'll find thefamous blank 2.6 litre astron 2
ohc engine with eci fuel injection that adds a lot of
excitement to every drive. Matthew, Matthew Magna elante.

(01:26:03):
It is the. Elante that.
Was it the engine that kind of gave it away?
It was. Because like because.
The skirts and stuff only came on the.
Alante So I was like, I was like, oh, that's yeah, that
shows how sad I am that I know what Magnus came with skirts and
stuff. It's no Wi-Fi as well, but it's
good. It says like I was getting to it
goes Mitsubishi. Balance shaft technology

(01:26:26):
delivers smooth flowing power and amazing level of quietness.
Mitsubishi's balance shaft technology is so good it's used
under licence by Porsche in their 944 range.
Did they know that? No.
Now Jim, you're the last person on this show to have driven a a
first Gen Magna engine. Smoothness.
Yay or nay? Yeah.

(01:26:49):
Next question Yeah, no, to be fair, like it is Carby fed too
the last one I drove so yeah, yeah, but.
The I mean, I mean Porsche. Has taken it off them they're
they're Pandit Mr Andrew was worth you know that that
question is for you I think and I'm hopefully we did you proud
on on Car Talk so that's the quiz Scotty that is the quiz

(01:27:12):
how. How'd we go?
How much did you win by 5? I don't want to brag, but.
Jim and Allen on on. One Rob on three and myself on
five tonight. Rob's just shaking his head.
Everyone's just called someone. We can't even call it
shenanigans. No, we can't.
Nothing you're not. You're not sitting.
Next to him to. Call it shenanigans.

(01:27:34):
I know. Yeah, I know there's.
I did say at the beginning that he bribed me.
So I did. You know I, I said to him.
Look. You know, I, I want to put a
good impression for Jim, who's first time on the show.
I want him to to see my prowess in his pure dominance, pure
dominance of the quiz. Used to know it all.
I wanted to. Show him that I'm the alpha.

(01:27:59):
So there. There you go.
Jim, you've you've heard about the collusion on the on the
show. You've seen it first hand.
Now you can, you can now yell atyour your your radio when you're
hearing this one back. You, you'd be like you bastards.
It was all collusion. It was all this all bloody
collusion. Well, you've got first hand.
I didn't understand. Yeah, first hand of it.
It's absolutely. You've.
Done is combined. Our scores, Ellen.

(01:28:20):
You and I and we would have beena draw.
That's true. Let's do that.
Yeah, Dad, I'll, I'll. Taskmaster, yes.
I'll, I'll take the, I'll take the.
Draw. I'll take the draw.
I think that's a podcast, gentlemen.
Yep, that was a lot of fun, Jim.Great to.
Have you on board for tonight? Man, did you enjoy yourself?

(01:28:43):
Oh, I had so much fun. Way cheaper than therapy.
Yeah. It's it's free mate.
I'm glad that you're more than welcome on anytime.
Good to have you on. Glad it's again good to have our
listeners on the show. You know, we've got a few more
guests coming on in the next fewweeks.
We've got a, we've got a new, we've got a guest coming on from
Clutch Industries who works for Uni Clutch next week.

(01:29:05):
We work in the industry. So we're going to find out about
him and his product. He wanted to to discuss his
product, so we're going to have him on the show.
Give us some free clutches. I'll let him know if they would.
Yeah, but absolutely, I'll, I'lldump the clutch a few times and
then. If they if they ask, they'll
yeah, yeah. Just just make sure he offers
lifetime warranties. How good is this?

(01:29:27):
Clutch Yeah, well, yeah, it's pretty good.
It's it's truck test. It isn't now.
Oh man, I'll be the I'll be the judge of that.
Speaking of. Of uni.
Clutch. Actually there was.
When was it? A couple years ago, You know,
Moti video? Yeah, they did a whole thing on
the UNI Clutch. It's really cool.

(01:29:47):
YouTube video, they're actually.Very.
Good. The whole kit that comes with
and the way it's packaged and everything, the way you can pick
and choose the bits and pieces that you want to make it.
Well, uni as in Universal, yeah.And that's what keeps the costs
down and up to yeah. Pretty good.
So yeah, it's. Very interesting.
So I hope people tune in for that one.

(01:30:08):
Yeah, absolutely. It's it's it's definitely good
listening so. We'll see.
His name is Julian Petain. We'll be discussing with him
next week on the show. Again, thank you Jim for coming
on the show. Yep, thanks.
It was so much fun. Really enjoyed it.
My discussion was great too. Thank you gentlemen for us.
As always, let's do some plugs. Scotty's golf tip of the week

(01:30:30):
Golf tip of the week is tempo. Work on that tempo, A lot of
people will. Go.
Really, really quick with their swings.
Or they might do a slow up swingand then really fast.
Just keep a nice tempo. It's no different than when
you're playing the piano. You got the metronome, the
tempo, the temper that comes after.

(01:30:54):
Oh, that comes after you miss it.
Yeah, tempo first, then temper. After Yeah.
That sounds about right. Yeah.
I I. I like that.
I'm gonna take that into consideration, Jim, as a
listener of the show, I, I'm gonna ask you, yeah, 'cause you
know, you know, our listeners don't come on very often.
Could you reckon you could be a good golfer after listening to
all these these golf tips? You know, the golf tip of the
week potentially 'cause last time I tried.

(01:31:16):
Golf in front of the Nets I managed to completely miss the
net and almost hit somebody thatwas walking past so hopefully I
would so well subconsciously subconsciously you're.
Aiming for that person. So good shot.
Yeah, yeah, True, true. They.
Were driving a late. Night as Mercedes, another good
one. So yeah, it's probably fair
Rob's doing it. He's doing everything.

(01:31:38):
Firefighting, electrical panel beating, painless dent removal.
Well, what else did we say you were doing tonight?
We we said something to start watching.
We'll call it scope. Oh, yeah, yeah.
But. Ball scoping so.
I would have to use you once I cannot get this bloody spanner
out of my door. Ball scope and if things look
rough, even an interscope. We'll do it all.

(01:31:59):
We're all there to watch. That one, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, now. Moving on, moving swiftly on.
Thank you very much. LMD if you'd like to lock
yourself in with. An EV and then get buyer's.
Remorse a few weeks later when anew EV comes out.
Yeah, our good friend Rizzy ross@carloop.com dot AU, also
found on Facebook on facebook.com/carloop AU.

(01:32:21):
He's a man in the know when it comes to electric car space in
Australia. And you know what?
He might let you know that it might be a better time to wait
or buy, depending on what's coming out.
Because you can. If it's coming to Australia, you
can bet he's been in it, he's tried it out.
He can let you know what's real.What's the real deal?
Probably can't be on the show. Yeah, he's gonna.
He just can't see in a new. One, because they're just
flying. Out the doors.
That's it, everywhere. We're gonna we're gonna get him

(01:32:42):
on in the next few weeks becauseI.
I spoke to him the other day. He's been in Shanghai for like
the last, you know, month and a half testing all the new cars.
He's like, you wait and see what's coming.
It's gonna, the market's gonna be a big shake up.
So the legacy brands that we know and try and love might not
be here in a few years. Let's just put it that way.
From what he's saying, yeah, he's also the main in the know

(01:33:03):
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(01:33:46):
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