Cardigan and Collar

Cardigan and Collar

Cardigan & Collar is the podcast of the North American Lutheran Seminary (NALS), pursuing theological conversations for the enrichment of pastoral ministry. In each episode, Professor David Luy and Pastor Maurice Lee interview guests, discuss books, trade insights, and seek wisdom, in the conviction that theology is both Christ’s gift to the church and its responsibility. To learn more about the North American Lutheran Seminary visit www.thenals.org

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July 16, 2025 28 mins

In this episode, our hosts are joined by theologian Dr. Daniel Treier to explore Dietrich Bonhoeffer’s diagnosis of modernity. From the rise of secularism to the impact of technological rationality, Treier unpacks how Bonhoeffer’s insights into a “world come of age” still resonate today. The conversation touches on the loss of Christendom, the temptation to co-opt cultural power, and how the church might resist becoming just anothe...

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In Part 2 of our conversation with Dr. Michael Pasquarello, we turn more directly to Dietrich Bonhoeffer’s preaching—its structure, clarity, and surprising depth. What made Bonhoeffer’s sermons distinctive? How did his theology shape his voice in the pulpit? And what can preachers today learn from his example?

We explore Bonhoeffer’s Christ-centered approach to Scripture, his resistance to cultural pressures, and his belief in preac...

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We often remember Dietrich Bonhoeffer as a theologian, teacher, and leader in the Confessing Church—but what happens when we pay attention to him as a preacher? In this episode, we talk with Dr. Mike Pasquarello about Bonhoeffer’s theological approach to preaching, the shape of a “preaching life,” and what it means to proclaim Christ not as technique or advice, but as the living Word. Part one of a two-part conversation.

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In this episode, hosts David Luy and Maurice Lee return with Dr. Michael Mawson to deepen the discussion on Dietrich Bonhoeffer’s understanding of the church and pastoral ministry. Building on themes from Sanctorum Communio and Life Together, they explore Bonhoeffer’s dialectical view of the church as both flawed and faithful, fractured yet held together in Christ.

Dr. Mawson reflects on Bonhoeffer’s theology of hope, his realism a...

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In this episode, hosts David Luy and Maurice Lee sit down with Dr. Michael Mawson to explore Dietrich Bonhoeffer’s striking vision of the church. Drawing from Bonhoeffer’s early work Sanctorum Communio, they unpack how the church can be both a flawed human community and the place where Christ is truly present. From ecclesiology in the 1920s to the tension between sociological and theological claims, this first part sets the stage f...

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In this second part of our conversation with Dr. Michael DeJonge, hosts David Luy and Maurice Lee explore how Bonhoeffer's Lutheran foundations shaped his understanding of political life, resistance, and the church's role in society.

Key Topics:

  1. Lutheran themes in Bonhoeffer's popular works "Discipleship" and "Life Together"

  2. How Bonhoeffer approached the Sermon on the Mount within a Lutheran law/gospel framework

  3. The theological pat...

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In this episode of Cardigan and Collar, hosts David Luy and Maurice Lee continue their exploration of how Dietrich Bonhoeffer became a pastor-theologian by examining the Lutheran sources of his theological and pastoral formation with Dr. Michael DeJonge.

Key Topics:

  1. How Bonhoeffer approached theology as both an academic and ecclesial discipline

  2. Bonhoeffer's distinctive understanding of the church compared to contemporaries lik...

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In this second part of our conversation with Dr. Charles Marsh, we dive deeper into the moments that shaped Dietrich Bonhoeffer’s vocation as a pastor theologian. From Harlem to Rome to a Benedictine monastery in Bavaria, we explore how Bonhoeffer’s encounters with global Christianity—and especially the Black Church in America—inspired his vision of a concrete, lived theology.

Dr. Marsh reflects on Bonhoeffer’s hunger for an embodi...

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How did Dietrich Bonhoeffer become the theologian and pastor we remember today? In this first part of our conversation with Dr. Charles Marsh, author of Strange Glory: A Life of Dietrich Bonhoeffer, we explore Bonhoeffer’s early intellectual influences, his break with academic theology, and his journey toward a lived, Christ-centered faith. Dr. Marsh shares insights on Bonhoeffer’s upbringing, his experiences abroad, and the decisi...

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March 5, 2025 40 mins

In this season opener, hosts David Luy and Maurice Lee kick off their exploration of Dietrich Bonhoeffer as a church theologian. They unpack why Bonhoeffer stands out as someone who connects deep theological thinking with practical church ministry. Instead of just explaining concepts, Bonhoeffer shows us what this connection looks like in action.

David and Maurice discuss what we gain from studying exemplary figures, the challenges...

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December 20, 2024 75 mins

In our final episode of the season, Pastor Maurice Lee and Dr. David Luy record in-person at the North American Lutheran Seminary Center in Ambridge, Pennsylvania. Together, they reflect on the journey of exploring catechesis and the rich insights gained from their many conversations this season.

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Key Topics  

  • Catechesis at the church’s core, not an add-on.
  • Formation as an interconnected ...
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November 15, 2024 67 mins

In this episode, we are joined by the Rev. Dawn Rister, Pastor of St. Paul Lutheran Church in Pomaria, South Carolina, to discuss catechesis and its role in building vibrant faith communities. Pastor Rister shares her unique journey from teacher and coach to pastor, exploring how authentic engagement, relational teaching, and hands-on catechesis can transform both individuals and congregations. Listen in as we dive into the ways li...

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October 2, 2024 52 mins

In this episode we are joined by Pastor Teresa Peters, Director of Youth & Family Ministry for the North American Lutheran Church (NALC). Pastor Peters shares her experiences, insights, and practical advice for how churches today can effectively minister to young people, emphasizing relationship-building, belonging, and possible approaches to catechesis. Whether you’re a pastor, youth leader, or a parent, this conversation offe...

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September 21, 2024 62 mins

In this episode, we are joined by the Rev. Ryan Jones, Director of Iona House, a 71-acre center for contemplation and Christian formation located in Placerville, CA. to discuss the importance of catechesis in the modern church. Ryan shares his insights on how ancient practices and paradigms can be utilized to form a more accurate understanding of human beings and their purpose, contrasting this with today's secular assumptions....

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July 10, 2024 55 mins

In this episode, we are joined by Dr. Mary Jane Haemig, Professor of Church History at Luther Seminary. Our discussion delves into approaches to Christian education and evangelism, emphasizing the significance of consistent, accessible catechetical instruction for all ages. This episode offers valuable insights for church leaders, educators, and laypeople interested in deepening their faith and enhancing their evangelistic efforts ...

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March 14, 2024 64 mins

In this episode we explore the intricate interplay between catechesis, culture, and preaching. Our guest is Dr. Frederick Bauerschmidt, permanent deacon of the Archdiocese of Baltimore and Professor of Theology at Loyola University Maryland. Join us as we delve into Bauerschmidt's theological approach to preaching, uncovering the essence of crafting sermons that resonate deeply with listeners. This episode offers insights for p...

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February 13, 2024 67 mins

In this episode, Dr. David Luy and Pastor Maurice Lee discuss the conversations we’ve had so far during this season of the podcast focusing on catechesis. They engage in a thoughtful exploration of the concept of catechesis and its vital role in the Christian faith and emphasize the need for a profound awareness of spirituality and the constant danger of straying from the Christian path. The discussion extends to the idea that theo...

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January 12, 2024 55 mins

In this episode we have Todd Hains from Lexham Press on the podcast as we delve into Martin Luther's approach to catechesis and its relevance for modern Christian practices. Hains unpacks Luther's emphasis on simplifying and purifying catechetical methods, highlighting the integration of these teachings into daily routines, both at home and within the church. Luther's insistence on memorization as a foundational step in...

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December 7, 2023 52 mins

In this episode, we dive into the world of early Christian catechesis with Dr. Alex Fogleman, the founding director of the Catechesis Institute and assistant research professor of theology at the Institute for Studies of Religion at Baylor University. Uncovering the diverse approaches, theological foundations, and practical aspects of catechesis in the early church, the episode explores figures from the early church and sheds light...

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November 2, 2023 49 mins

Why Catechesis?

In this episode, the Rev. Dr. Joel Scandrett joins Dr. Luy and Pastor Lee as they explore the role of catechesis in Christian formation. They delve into the historical and theological significance of catechesis, drawing from early Christian and Reformation traditions. Dr. Scandrett highlights the importance of classic catechisms like the Apostles' Creed, the Lord's Prayer, and the Ten Commandments in shaping...

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