EP11 Jon Fisch: Balancing Stand-up Comedy & His New Family

Get ready for a rollicking journey through the world of stand-up comedy with our guest, the hilarious Jon Fisch! You're in for a treat as Jon, with a sparkling career graced by appearances on the Late Show with David Letterman and Stephen Colbert, spills the beans on his comedic expeditions, early days, and the peculiar chemistry between comedy clubs and old bank vaults.

Jon Fisch is not just a comedian; he’s a storyteller who will have you in stitches as he shares his adventures from the smoky comedy clubs of the past to opening gigs for comedy heavyweights like Louis CK. Hear how he navigated the tricky waters of comedy and personal life, and learn why fatherhood has not changed but halted his writing style. And if you've ever wondered what goes into the making of a comedy special, you'll love Jon's insights on HINGE, a hilarious take on online dating, his kids, and his wife.

But it's not all about the laughs. John's journey also offers a unique peek into the challenges of being on the road for work, finding family time, and the anxiety of taking weekends off. As John transitions from stand-up to podcasting, he reveals the power of collaboration with friends and the influence of comedy greats like Jerry Seinfeld and Louis CK. Not to mention, there's a preview into his social media antics and a warm invitation to his YouTube channel. So buckle up, and let's ride along with Jon Fisch on this exhilarating comedy journey!

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Episode Transcript

Scott (00:00):
My guest today is John Fish.

Guest (00:01):
John's one of only a handful of comedians who have
appeared on both the Late Showwith David Letterman and the
Late Show with Stephen Colbert.
You may recognize Jon fromComedy Central or NBC's Last
Comic Standing, where he was theNew York City Capital One
audience favorite.
John has performed at multiplecomedy festivals, including the
HBO Comedy Arts Festival, theGreat American Comedy Festival
and Montreal's prestigious Justfor Last Festival.

(00:24):
He's a regular and favoriteperformer in New York City at
Gotham Comedy Club, New YorkCity Comedy Club and the
world-famous Comedy Seller.
His latest album and special,Hinged, was named a Laugh Button
Top 10 Comedy Special and wasnominated for Album of the Year
by the Interabang John Fish.
Welcome to Cardi.
Saves the World, let's save it.

Scott (00:44):
Let's do it.
Thanks for having me, buddy.

Guest (00:46):
Thanks for being on, man.
It's been a long time, quite along time.
We know each other from astandup in Boston.
Yeah, and when did you move toNew York?

Scott (00:53):
I moved in May of 2001,.
You know, just to set up.

Guest (00:57):
I kind of retired.
I didn't quit, I retired in2006.

Scott (01:00):
Yeah, I used to come back a lot back then those first few
years.
You could get a lot of stagetime in New York City, but it
wasn't good stage time.
Yeah, I'd come back to Bostonlike once a month or every other
month and you'd get all thegood stage time you needed.
So it was worth it for me.

Guest (01:15):
Get a couple of paychecks too.

Scott (01:16):
Yeah, yeah.

Guest (01:18):
So for the audience, let's kind of go over how
standup works.
A lot of people don'tunderstand the struggles and the
beginning stages.
How did you get into it?
I took two different workshops.

Scott (01:28):
First I took one with the man Rick Jenkins yes, yeah, the
colony studios.
It was actually throughBrookline Continuing Education.
I had just graduated college, Iwas living in Brookline and
then everybody in the class wasdoing it for their job or their
bucket list even though bucketlist I don't think was a thing,
pre-bucket list, you know andnobody wanted to continue with

(01:49):
it.
So I was just kind of did thatgraduation class that you do,
you do like five minutes.
At the end I was so nervous Ididn't tell any of my friends.
Really it almost didn't happen,yeah, but it was still in the
back of my mind and then I knewI wanted to do more.
So then I had moved to JamaicaPlain and I was going to take an
improv class and I was the onlyone that signed up.

Guest (02:09):
Nobody signed up, it was just you.

Scott (02:12):
Just me.
And they were like, yeah, we'renot, we can't do this, but we
have a standup class if you wantto take that.
And I was like, okay, it's adifferent continuing education
place.
And it happened to be Rick'spartner, jim DeCrotto.
Oh yeah, jim Opened the clubwith him, rip, and in that
workshop I met two people thatwanted to do it more.
So we did.
It was the start of us doing itmore.
We started going to open micstogether and Ann Manicus and

(02:34):
Mike Diefenbach and we calledourselves the Comedy Trio.
Oh yeah, we would go and wewould infiltrate.
You know, we would do theregular things that you could
find out about in Boston, whichwas at that time like Dick's
Comedy Vault and there was aPizzeria Uno open mic.
Dave Radigan had something Ithink it was called Bel Canto,
oh yeah.
And then in like Ball FanMaster or something.
And then we found an open micin Walfam Mass.

(02:57):
That was just everything youcould do poetry, you could do
music.
You got like a 45 minute slotor something like that.
So the three of us would splitthat.
Oh, that's nice, and even thatsplitting that 15 minutes when
you start was a lot Brutal, yeah, brutal, but the best thing for
us at that time was we wouldmeet once a week after we were
done with the workshop to justgo over jokes, which was the
best thing to be doing at thattime.

Guest (03:18):
Yeah, it's going to be super helpful.
Yeah, nothing teaches you thevalue of a minute like doing
stand-up comedy Right.
When someone says five minutes,you're like, yeah, five minutes
, I got that Right.
I kind of started the same way.
I took a class in Rhode Islandright after I graduated college
with Rhode Island comedy hall offamer, frank O'Donnell.
At the end, again, nobodywanted to do it, it was just
trying to get out of theircomfort zone or do it for work

(03:39):
or something, and I was the onlyone that wanted to move forward
.
So Frank gave me this booker inRhode Island.
He books all kinds of comedyshows John Perrata.
Yeah, and I worked foreverybody's brother, john
Perrata, who's my first booker.
I called him up and he was likehey brother, who do you got?
You got to go 15, 20 minutesand I was like, let's take five.
He was like all right, I gotyou booked for Big Dan's comedy
show 20 minutes and I was like Ican't do 20 minutes, especially

(04:02):
if you're not a storyteller.

Scott (04:04):
Yeah, if you're just telling jokes, jokes, jokes.
It's hard to come up with aminute, you know.

Guest (04:08):
It was brutal.
Big Dan's was.
I don't know if you rememberJody Foster movie the Accused.

Scott (04:13):
Yeah.

Guest (04:14):
It was about a rape case.
Yeah, this bar was the centerof no, that rape case.
So I was literally doing theBig Dan's rape case bar.
That was awkward.

Scott (04:25):
Yeah, I had to remember Jack Lynch.
Yeah, jack, yep, but funny,funny dude.
Yeah, he had called me when Iwas starting out to do a show to
open for him.
And he goes, how much time doyou have?
And I go, when's the show, likehow much will I be able to
collect before I open for you?

(04:45):
You know I probably had 12, butI was like if you need me to do
15, and it's in April and Ihave six months, we should be
good.
Yeah, you know.

Guest (04:53):
You know thinking back, you know when you're starting
out you're like, oh, I got 15.
In reality you had like two.
The other 13 sucked.

Scott (05:01):
Yeah, and also I mean that was.
The good thing about Boston,though, is you could do the kind
of cool hip like comedy studioor the open mic or like there
would be young people in theaudience and but then also, on
the weekends, go open up inthese rooms with paying
customers that were, you know,date night, and when you took
that five to seven minutes thatyou were doing and having fun

(05:24):
with in the open mic at theexperimental level to those real
shows, you were like, oh, thatdoesn't work.
Adults that just works for thesecollege kids.

Guest (05:34):
Yeah, it was the worst show I ever did, right off the
bat and I was bombing miserably.
I remember my mom wanted to go,so my mom actually drove me,
which is just a no-noTrafficking to your own comedy
show.
It's awkward.
I said the punchline of onejoke and it just bombed and I
just kind of held the mic out asI did.
The bouncer walk by and put hishead on the mic and was like

(05:54):
dude, you suck.

Scott (05:59):
Well, speaking of Rhode Island, that was the first time
I was doing 20 minutes.
I was opening for Dom Irerradown at the East Providence
Comedy Connection and my dadloves Dom Irerra and so he was
going to come with me, but I wastoo nervous to let him see me
do 20 minutes, so he waited inthe car in that parking lot and

(06:21):
he was like, if you think doing20 minutes when you first
started doing comedy is long,waiting for 20 minutes in that
parking lot as long.
He was like I saw two fights in20 minutes and that place oh my
god, that place was so small.
That was the only place that wehad when we started that you
could do.
It felt like a road week, yeah,you know, everywhere else was

(06:41):
like maybe you did a weekend.
I don't even think there waslike a.
There might have been Nick's,might have been Thursday, friday
, saturday when I started, butlike by the time I got to
actually work there, it wasn't,it was like just Friday,
saturday.
Yeah, this was like I think youauditioned on Tuesday or
Wednesday and then there wasWednesday, thursday, friday,
saturday, sunday or somethinglike that.
Yeah, and I remember it was sodisgustingly smoky somehow the

(07:04):
smoke stayed trapped in thatroom.
Yeah, I mean, I worked thereprobably half a dozen times.
I remember I would just wearthe same outfit every night.
It was so smoky.
I was like I can't, I just wearthe same thing every night.
It was crazy.
I just want to mess up anythingelse.
Yeah, there were two vaultslike that had a bank vault in it
too, like something aboutcomedy clubs and Chinese
restaurants.
And comedy clubs and old bankvaults have a symbiotic

(07:26):
relationship.

Guest (07:27):
When you're standing on the stage in that place, you
could see like a smokeatmosphere.
You could see, yeah, like therewas a level of just like a
cushion of smoke going across.
I can't believe we did that.

Scott (07:37):
Yeah, you know it was crazy to smoke in some of these
places.

Guest (07:41):
I remember when I started out, I did about a year in
Rhode Island before I moved toBoston and I remember talking to
PJ Tavito about it and he waslike you know, you're going to
be so much tougher because youdid that.
And I was like all right, I gotup, yeah, and yeah, I mean it
was like crowd work, heckling,and I was like that's just no
big deal.
And there were some folks thathad just started out in Boston.
They were like whoa.

Scott (07:59):
Yeah, yeah, tavito was a beast man, absolutely.
I mean I think he's still doingit.
He would kill, like he was oneof those comics that like two
months in because we're talkingabout how like you need a joke
he had stories, yeah, and he hadconfidence and he had presence.
I mean he was 65 or somethinglike that, but he, that guy,
could come out like after twomonths he was headlining because
he just had so much.

Guest (08:19):
And he was from Rhode Island too, like he's actually
from my hometown, and I went tohigh school with his sister and
brother.
I had never met him and he andI looked so much alike.
So when I got up to Bostonpeople were like, hey, pj, and
I'm like I'm not PJ, I'm not PJ.
I promise.
He was so great to me when Ifirst started, just kind of
helped me out and guide methrough Me too.

Scott (08:39):
We met we actually met up in Maine at the comedy
connection up there and Iremember we like coming back and
both were at like the BurgerKing rest stop at the same time
on the way back down and we justhad a chat there and I think
we're talking shit about someoneelse there and I was like, ah,
we're going to be friends.
I left thinking that guy.

Guest (08:58):
What was your one year hell gigs in New England before
you moved?

Scott (09:01):
I mean, I think I had something like that where I
remember out in Worcester I hadgone out there no excuses, but
like it wasn't set up well, andI was just eating it and I was
like, well, there's no way forme to get out of this.
Like they don't think I'm funnyand I just have to stand up
here and do 12 minutes.
And I did.
I probably wouldn't rememberthat, but it was a Dick Doherty

(09:22):
room.
Rip to the room and to Dick.
I got it.
It was one of those like hugestages at like a fish restaurant
, which a short lived one orwhatever, and I remember Dick
calling me.
He was like they said you had ahard time and but you know, I
stood up for you and I was like,oh, thanks, like it was nice to
have this guy you know thislike legendary comic and the
booker of the show tell you likebecause I know I ate it, but

(09:42):
like I'm sure he's got feedback,but like at least this guy knew
like yeah, that wasn'tnecessarily all on like this
every time.
Because I remember, you know tojump ahead to like Staten Island
, which is an abortously roughcomedy area, and I had some of
the war.
I had like an absolute, justfrustrating night where this
woman in the audience was justmaking sounds and she had ruined

(10:03):
the entire show, really yeah,and I, like you know, it was the
same thing with me and I liketried it, just it took me out of
the game but I still have tostand up there for 45 minutes
and I remember I didn't want togo back.
I called the booker I'msupposed to go back the next day
and I told them they're likeit's fine, it's a new crowd,
don't worry.
And I went back and I rememberthe bartender said it was
different bartender and he'slike I heard the audience got
the best of the comics lastnight.

(10:24):
It was just so upsetting to mebecause it was like no, no, no,
someone here didn't do their job.
It wasn't us, it was you guyslike that shouldn't have
happened.
But you know there are stillpeople that think comics just go
up and they're like shut down,like any.
That's what comedy is like shutdown that person or make fun of
them or like.
No, we actually plannedmaterial and have a show and so

(10:47):
used to doing like just comedypodcasts.
But if people out there don'tknow, like there is an actual I
don't want to say theater to it,but there's an actual like show
to stand up.
There's like a psychologybehind having an opener, a
middleer, a headliner.
Like the way a show blends intoeach other and everything from
lighting to sound really mattersand all that stuff and the

(11:08):
stage height or having a stageor something like that, it all
matters, yeah, and professionalsare going to nine times out of
10 do a great show, no matterwhat.
But you want to set us up, havethe things right, yeah.

Guest (11:19):
You know, I remember those shows where you know the
booker walks in with the app,puts the app down.

Scott (11:24):
Yeah, yeah, great.
Well, my buddy Moody McCarthy.
He does a lot of corporate andprivate shows and stuff where,
like you know, you can emailthem till you're blue in the
face to tell them what you need.
And then you show up andthey're like oh, that guy's not
here today that you've beentalking to, but I'm in charge
and there's nothing.
He travels with lights andsound system, just in case If he
doesn't like what you got,he'll go out and set his up in

(11:46):
like 15 minutes.
Yeah, that's the way to go.
That's a professional.

Guest (11:49):
This is bringing back so many memories of getting PTSD
for a minute.

Scott (11:53):
Well, even that, you like you know I'll do these shows
like high paying corporateevents or something, and you're
just like they like really don'twant you to bring an opener, or
really the opener for, likethese non comedy venues is just
a time to get everything, allthose kinks, worked out.
I remember having one of thoseshows where these people really
didn't want me to bring anopener and they really fought me

(12:14):
on it and I didn't, and, sureenough, exactly what was going
to go wrong.
One of that that I was worriedabout went wrong and it was like
you got to stick to your gumsometimes or just for a link or
shit.
Just be like.
This is the way it is.
You know it's not my fault andhopefully they'll understand,
but they often don't.
They're like you know, yousucked, it's like well, you
didn't have the mic working forthe first 20 minutes, so I don't
know what to tell you.
I had another one where I didbring an opener and I was

(12:40):
bringing my friend, so I justneeded someone to do five
minutes and he was about to doConan for the first time.
Gary Veter, oh yeah.

Guest (12:47):
Gary.

Scott (12:48):
Years ago.
Yeah, so funny.
So he was doing five minutesand then I went up so it was
just this big event space and sopeople were just in lounge
chairs like far away from eachother, sofas like not facing us,
and we were in like the DJbooth stage.
It was just not conducive forstand up, flex a glass.
Yeah, it was just awful.
And they had spent a lot ofmoney and we were doing a favor

(13:10):
for a book, our friend of ours,and so they got us on the cheap.
And that was another lessonthey get you on the cheap, they
don't respect you as much, youknow.
Yeah, everything else was tothe nines, like the food, the
tablecloth, like everything.
But it was so bad that I was onand Gary went to get something
to eat and one of the peoplesaid quick, they're going.
Oh, we're not serving yet.
And he goes oh, when do youstart serving?

(13:30):
And he goes oh, well, when yourfriend is done with his speech
Speech.
That's how bad it was.
They thought I was giving aspeech.

Guest (13:39):
No, they're looking for inspiration from you, John.

Scott (13:44):
That's crazy, you know.
And then my friends mad at me.
It's like no, no, no, no again,not our fault.
Oh, you want to know.
The worst bomb though Is thatwhat this started?
Yeah, let's go.
The worst bomb.
I can't believe.
I didn't remember this so longago, but I postponed my move to
New York City for this gig at atemple in my hometown, Newton
Massachusetts.

(14:04):
The temple is gone now becauseof this.
No, because of this.
No, it was Michigan to Fila, Ithink it was called RIP.
I was hired by this woman whosaw me at the comedy connection,
came back with the rabbi andsome friends to make sure, and
then hired me for this show and,again, wouldn't let me bring an

(14:25):
opener.
It was, dare I say, probablyaverage age, like 75.
And there was like one youngertable, and it happened to be a
relative of mine, and then thiswoman got up and told some
street jokes which her table offriends and young people laughed
, and then everyone else sayswhat's going on?

(14:46):
Like they didn't even realizethe show was starting and I was
new, I was three years in, I wasnot ready to do this without an
opener.
And I get up and I was supposedto do 20 and I think I did 13
and I ate it.
And when you, when I say I meanI ate it, they didn't want to
pay me.
You serious, yeah, and I lovedthe boxers I was wearing but
wouldn't wear them for a showuntil they deteriorated.

(15:07):
That's how bad that experiencewas.
And Frank RIP a lot of RIPtoday.
But Frank from the comedyconnection ended up getting some
of the money.
I came in and he's like whathappened?
I'm like dude, it was justbrutal.
And he's like all right, I'llget you.
He got me like half the moneyor something.
Yeah, that was the worst bombin Boston I had and I had

(15:29):
postponed my move because it wasgoing to be the most I'd ever
been paid by.
a lot yeah.

Guest (15:33):
Especially when you start getting that money.
You're like well, wait a minute.
20 minutes, this is all I haveto work, oh yeah, let's rock.

Scott (15:39):
Well, that's then.
That's what you learn.
Like you learn All right, if itdoesn't go well and you don't
do your time, they're justlooking for any way to not pay
you.
So then you learn to bomb for30 minutes.

Guest (15:50):
If you have to do 30 minutes, and then that makes you
stronger because you know youcan do that, and then and that
helps you, like, figure thingsout- Sometimes you get a false
sense of security when bomb infront of comics because that's
what comics love to see, it'sthe funniest thing for a comic
to watch other comics bomb.
So you're out there and youknow, I remember we did the Dick
Doherty's comedy vault and thatgigantic vault in the back and

(16:11):
you could just hear the from theback.
You're like oh okay, I'm eatingit.
That was the part of the thing.
I never had a problem witheating it Like.
I was like and I did it quiteoften.
People always ask me they'relike you did stand up, don't you
still do it?
And I was like, if I was goodat stand up, I would still be
doing it.
That's the whole premise of it.

Scott (16:31):
Plenty of people that are good.
Don't you stop.
They're magic and die at somepoint.
Yeah, I had a tweet.
It was really funny.
I had recently a friend who hadstopped doing stand up, but
it's still like in the creativeworld.
He posted a screen grab ofmyself and a friend, julie Rossi
, who's now on the West Coast.
We had like tweeted basicallythe same thing within four hours
.
Oh really, it was essentiallymine was.

(16:53):
People always asked me how I gotstarted in comedy and more
people asked me how I plan onstopping.
And hers was very similar tothe point like of like new, new
comic.
How do you get started in oldcomics?
How do you get out of this?
You know something like that.
It's true, this guy, ben Bailey, one of the New York City
legendary comic, who was mostknown for cash cab oh yeah, he

(17:14):
was the original cash cab driver.
I remember one night he wastalking and we spent so much
time getting into these clubsand then even more time trying
to get out.
Yeah, because it's like youknow you get in and that's all
you ever wanted.
But then you're like, oh,there's got to be something more
.

Guest (17:29):
Yeah, I remember when I was like slowing down, I
probably should have pulled theplug maybe six, eight months
before I actually did.
Yeah, I think I still got this.
I just I just started losinginterest and I knew I was not
meant for greener pastures inthe standup world and I was like
, hey, I think I need to take abreak.
So you've got all kinds of newstuff going on in the last three

(17:49):
, four years.
You got yeah, got babies andkids and wife.

Scott (17:54):
Technically no, but yes.

Guest (17:58):
It's the basis for your comedy special hinge.
That is on YouTube, which isfantastic.
I watched it a second time lastnight, thank you, those folks
that are listening, go out,check John's show out.
It's amazing.
His specials are free onYouTube.
It's amazing, but that's thewhole basis for that.

Scott (18:12):
Yeah, and well, I remember I was doing a show
because, like, my show wasalways about pretty much online
dating and dating and beingsingle and struggling with that
and I remember doing a show upin Rochester with a friend,
marianne, and she said, what areyou going to do if you ever do
get married or find someone?
And I was like I guess I haveto retire, I'll have nothing
else to talk about.
But of course you start talkingabout all this crap.

(18:35):
But yeah, I met right beforethe pandemic.
I met a woman on that datingapp, hinge, and everything that
I had been trying to get in mylife, my personal life, just
happened in like a span of acouple of years and we just
added another.
So, yeah, we got reallypregnant really quick.
We had the baby, there was thepandemic, we had her during
quarantine and then we moved outto the Burbs, to New Jersey,

(18:58):
and then we had another one andnow.
So now we have like a nine monthold and a three year old and
we're a little family.
You know, I joke that we wantto have a wedding, but fiance
wants to have a drink at herwedding and I keep knocking her
up.
So I refer to her as my wife.
So congratulations.

Guest (19:13):
That's awesome and good for you.
That was kind of my issue whenI was 29.
And I was like my friends wereall getting married.
I wasn't getting the plus oneto the weddings and really hard
to balance stand up and a newrelationship right.
I mean sure, your weekends arepretty much booked with stand up
shows.

Scott (19:29):
Sure, yeah, it is.
It's a struggle.
Now I still get that anxietybecause, like now, I do have
things.
You know in the books that Ihave to take the weekend off,
and there's always a joke incomedy.
It's like you want a big gig,take a vacation that weekend,
you'll get the call the next daywith a big gig that you can't
take.
But it's better.
It's a better, well roundedlife.
You know, I remember doing like, even in Boston.

(19:50):
I remember having a buddy'sbachelor party during the day
and like not being able to passup opening for Richard Lewis
that night so I would leave thefestivities.
I can't believe I have to saythis again, but you remember
Mike Baker.
Yeah, Mike Baker, Mike BakerRIP His wedding.
I was like in his wedding withmy buddy, dave Greenberg, and I
had to leave that to go do ashow and stuff.
And you know it's like whenyou're starting out.
There was so much of that likeyou can't say no to anything and

(20:13):
just you know, doubling up oneverything that I could.
And now it's like I takeSundays and Mondays off, and
then more sometimes, butdefinitely Sundays and Mondays
for like, family days, weekendsthat I just take off for things
that I wouldn't have as a singleman, for weddings and a weekend
with family, and it's still alittle bit of anxiety sometimes
when I do it, but it's made me ahappier, more well rounded

(20:33):
person.

Guest (20:34):
Yeah, it must be so tough to.
I mean, if I go on like worktrip or something, I'm like I'm
gonna miss my kid and this isyou know.
You know you've got to go outand try to make people laugh
while you're doing it.
You know too.

Scott (20:44):
Well, it's one thing.
When I leave for the night, youknow, and I can still come back
, and you know I just miss, likemaybe bedtime or something
which is hard enough.
I wake up with them.

Guest (20:51):
If.

Scott (20:51):
I'm on the road if you're on a work trip.
You know my wife.
When she goes on a work tripshe's working all the waking
hours and thinking about itwhile she's sleeping.
Usually she's busy.
Hopefully I have two shows in anight, sometimes just one show,
and then I got 20 hours tothink about how I'm not at home
with my kids.
You know, yeah, it's really hardto be on the road these days.

(21:11):
I really took a step back theselast couple years, easing back
in a little bit more, but stillwelcoming more like driving gigs
that I can end up back home.

Guest (21:21):
A little closer to home.

Scott (21:22):
Yeah, for sure.

Guest (21:24):
So how has fatherhood changed your writing and your
writing style?
I?

Scott (21:27):
don't think it's changed my writing style as much as it's
stopped it.
I mean, I really I really putthings on like I stopped pretty
much going on stage about a weekor two before our boy was born
and didn't go back on stageuntil I opened for Louis and

(21:48):
Madison Square Garden.
So it would have been longer,wow, yeah, but I couldn't say no
to that, obviously.
Yeah, oh, absolutely not.
So that was about six to sevenweeks and then after that week
of getting back in gear anddoing it, I think I, you know,
didn't do stand up for a fewmore weeks.
I remember having a cancelshows.
I was a little ambitious withgetting back and I was like I
don't think I can leave my wiferight now, and so I sort of

(22:10):
became daddy daycare until twoweeks ago when we put our boy in
daycare finally, and so I kindof put writing on hold Like I
wasn't you know, I was verydiligent about, you know, at
least two hours a day of writingin my days, and so I'm just
getting back to that now.
Yeah, but you know, I still justnot as methodically or
diligently or routinely, but asfar as I feel like it's the same

(22:32):
same approach and the same, thesame lens I'm looking through
because I've always been since Imoved to New York more personal
than observational.
And so, yeah, it's now.
It's a lot about my wife andkids and it where it used to be,
as about the dates, I would goon, or you know the struggles of
feeling like I was going to bealone forever.
Maybe what I thought it wouldhave been a happier tone, but

(22:54):
it's still.
There's still worries abouteverything.
So now it's just the worriesand the interesting struggles of
this life.

Guest (23:00):
Yeah, I remember when my wife had our daughter, folks
would be like, hey, you know,now you're going to have all
sorts of stuff to write about, Idon't have time to write about
it.
There's diapers to change andnoses to wipe, and got a time
for that stuff.
So, yes, you mentioned you openfor Louis CK in Madison Square
Garden.
I saw it on your all yoursocial media.
How does that come about andhow awesome was it?

Scott (23:20):
Well, it was pretty funny because the other day we went
to see Stevie Nicks at MadisonSquare Garden and we were
driving in and my wife goeswhen's the last time you were
here?
And I go, I think when I openedfor Louis.
She's like, yeah, me too, youknow.
So that it was pretty crazy.
I've been opening for him, youknow.
He has like a stable of us thatopened for him, you know, and

(23:41):
you kind of put in youravailability when he's about to
start a tour.
And I was actually supposed togo out with him.
He was.
It was actually going to be thefirst week I was going to be
back out since our son was born.
Yeah, about six weeks after hewas born, the end of January,
and my wife had thrown me a 50thbirthday party and got COVID,
so I couldn't leave and so I hadto cancel.

(24:04):
And so we were texting and Ihad originally I had a like a
corporate event on that day, soI didn't put in for that
availability.
We were just texting and he wasjust checking in and blah, blah
, blah, and then he said willyou be ready to work on January
27th or whatever it was?
And I was like yeah, and I knewwhat it was.
I wasn't going to say no if heoutright asked me, but I didn't

(24:26):
say I was available originally,which so yeah, so that's that
was you know.
I'll let you know on Monday ifI can cancel this thing.
And that was a week out,basically.
Yeah, so I had a week to getback on stage and I went back in
Monday night or Tuesday night,the first night, and I only had
one set that I could get and Iwas rusty, very rusty.
And I got real nervous.

(24:46):
And then, luckily, I had twosets lined up for the next night
and I got in like halfwayduring the first set I was like,
okay, I got it.
It's only took a set and a half.
Okay, all right.
And then it was just, you know.
I could just be regular nervousabout performing for 18,000
people.

Guest (25:00):
Yeah, 18,000.
That's awesome and he's amaster.

Scott (25:03):
He's just a master and I know there's all this amazing
yeah, but you know he's from myhometown too.
We're from, we're both from thesame hometown, Newton Mass, and
you know people.
You know what was the best part?
The best part was actually thehour or so of soundcheck we did.
It was Adrian Appaluchee, theother opener, and myself and
Louie just on the stage becausewe were in the round and he was
kind of like giving ussuggestions and pointers on how

(25:26):
to do it in the round and youknow how to perform for 18,000.
And then just getting intowhatever.
It was like an hour of justlistening to a master talk about
comedy, yeah, so it was great.

Guest (25:36):
I remember when I was on a show at the comedy studio in
Cambridge, he walked in andStephen Wright walked in and
they both bumped me and I had tofollow Louie CK and Stephen
Wright and then Gary Goldmanclosed the show and, needless to
say, I got lost in the mix.

Scott (25:53):
I always remind Louie of this, because in Boston we
started and you would have anopener and you would have a
closer, and you knew what yourjokes were going to be.
And you went up and you saidkeep it going for the hosts.
And blah, blah, blah.
And I saw Louie at the studio.
I think Rick had him come in tolike he must have been in town
or something he was headliningand it was like a huge deal,
Like I remember, like peoplewere like not a contest, but

(26:15):
like you know, everyone wastrying to get to open for him or
something and it was a big deal.
Whoever got to open for him,and we're all watching and he
came out, he just walked up andhe goes, keep it going for Rick
Jenkins, he's a pig fucker.
Or he goes, keep it going forRick Jenkins, he's a pig fucker,
Pig fucker.
He's a pig fucker, he likes tofuck pigs.
He just did like 30 secondsabout I don't know what that was

(26:37):
and we were just all done.
It just broke everything Ithought of that I had watched
and kind of learned, and thenand he just fucking destroyed,
destroyed for 30 minutes, andthen he gets done.
And you know Rick is maniacalabout the time Cause I think it
comes from, you know, not owningthat space.

(26:57):
He was renting that space andthey probably charged him extra
if he stayed until 10, 10instead of getting off at 10.
Louis finished and he had likefive more minutes and Rick got
up and was like, do you want todo more?
And so Louis did an encore, anunplanned encore, which totally
blew my mind because it was like, well, didn't he do his closer,

(27:18):
Like how is he going to go?
And he just went back up anddestroyed for another five
minutes and I mean that justblew.
It blew my mind.
For like weeks I was thinkingabout that.
I was still obviously thinkingabout it.
It was it was amazing.

Guest (27:31):
That was a fun part about Boston, but I'm sure you know
we got to see a lot of Bostoncomics come home and and you
randomly pop in.
But how's New York, like you'respecial, hinged?
You mentioned that JerrySeinfeld literally walked in
before, right before you filmed.

Scott (27:44):
Well, I knew he was coming but I couldn't say it for
a couple reasons.
But I had, I think my folkswere in town and I remember I
was in their hotel room.
The owner, chris Mozzilli,called me and he was like hey,
man, jerry just called, hewanted to come in on whatever.
I think it was a Tuesday nightor something.
Can he go up before you?
I just wanted to check and ofcourse that was like a formality

(28:07):
.
I can't say no to that.
I guess I could.
But.
But I had actually the weekendbefore, like the Friday before
that, I had gone up after him atthe same club.
I remember, because I don't getsuper excited about, but I
remember calling my wife after.
I was like, ah, that's that.
I was like I wish I recordedthat that was one of the best
sets I've had in a long time,and so he had just put them in

(28:29):
such a good mood, you know.
So I was like, yeah, sure,that'll actually be great.
And it worked out twofold Onebecause he did exactly that.
He put them in such a fantasticmood.
It was like a bonus.
It took a lot of pressure offme.
It was like, well, even if Idon't do well, they saw a sign,
felt tonight I brought them thatthe other is.
I also felt like I could.
A comedian or a self-hating Jew, whatever it is, you know, you

(28:52):
never think you're worthy enough, you know.
So it's hard for me to invitepeople to this thing, but it was
like, well, now I know you cancome.
Come, it's going to be a greatnight, yeah you've already done
that.
Yes.
So I had invited my friend Mike.
You know I'm not going toinvite comedians.
Some comedians came on theirown, which I really appreciate,
and even sat in the audience.
I wasn't going to invite onebut my friend Sam Rubenoff, him

(29:16):
and his girlfriend.
I said, come to this show andbring your girlfriend, will be a
nice night.
And he's like why?
I'm like just someone's coming,maybe Just I can't you know.
And he knew he's actually theonly.
He guessed.
One night we sat down in acoffee shop around the corner
down in the village.
I was talking and I go, he goes, are you guys pregnant?
Like he had guessed it.
I don't know, he knows things,he just he senses things.

(29:38):
He guessed we were pregnant,cut to that night.
I get off stage and I hadactually brought him with me to
do a couple of shows when I wasgetting ready to do the albums.
We had seen the set already andthen he watched the finished
product that night and I get offstage and I go over to him.
You know, I say to hisgirlfriend are you glad you came
because she saw Seinfeld?
Blah, blah, blah and he goes.
You got to call the albumhinged.
Really, he named it, he namedit right there, that's awesome,

(30:00):
so it was very helpful.

Guest (30:01):
Yeah, yeah, that's awesome.
When I was doing my podcastinformation sessions cut up
stuff on you.
I started listening to some ofyour old podcasts and Sam was on
your spiraling up podcast,right.

Scott (30:10):
Yes, yes, we became really good friends.
We went to we both went to UVMfor like 10 years or more art
but he's a younger dude and he'sjust a really good guy and I
remember, like he had seen thatI was at the Vermont Comedy Club
and when I got back he was likeyou know, if you go back up
there, I went to UVM to you know, see if you can take me.
Yeah, the next time I went up,we went up and we just we hit it

(30:31):
off and we became good friendsand we started trying to do a
couple of different projectstogether.
And then during quarantine, wewere trying to like, inspire
each other to keep writing andstuff like that.
So we started doing some of thepodcasts together with, like,
the caveat of, like we writejokes each week for that.
So that was helpful during.
You know, it's hard to staycreative during the quarantine.

Guest (30:50):
I can't even imagine what you guys all went through.
Yeah, I was listening tospiraling up and I wanted to
make sure that I pointed out toyou that I hate you for it,
because I can't get the damnsong out of my head.

Scott (31:02):
That was another read.
Like Grant Gordon.
I remember just putting up likea story like could someone
write me a jingle?
And he wrote the jingle.
It was like that's pretty good,that's pretty good, it's the
catchiest song in the world.

Guest (31:11):
Like I was.
Like I sing it in my car.
I'm like that's spiraling up.

Scott (31:15):
Well, listen to my first podcast in the tank.
Yes, people still will do thatjingle to me.
Mark Douglas, who was like ahilarious musician comedian, he
wrote that one and people stillwill come up to me and do that
one too.

Guest (31:29):
Yeah, you were like kind of a groundbreaker out there for
standup podcasts.

Scott (31:33):
Yeah, we were on the forefront back in the day.
We really should have kept thatgoing, man, yeah, I'd be in a
house right now in the 7thdepartment.
That was 2009.
In the tank yeah, in the tankstarted in 2009.
Yeah, I remember it was RobertKelly who was at like the
beginning fitting beginning ofall the podcasts.
He really talked me throughthat and I think he was the one

(31:54):
that told Bill Bertha to do apodcast.
Oh really, they used to justliterally just do it on their
phones.

Guest (31:58):
Yeah, I was listening to.
It was on Apple.
There was only a few episodesstill on Apple that I could find
.

Scott (32:03):
Yeah, I threw up some in the spiraling up fee.
Okay, I'll check it out.
And then I was talking to theguys who did my album, laugh
Button, and we were going toclean them up and put them up on
their thing and then they soldtheir company, oh, okay.
Yeah.

Guest (32:18):
I was listening to the San Maril one.
That was, I think, one of thelast ones.
That was like 2011 or something.

Scott (32:23):
That was before he exploded.
He's he is exploded.

Guest (32:26):
Huge.
I remember I just he showed upin my Instagram feed, maybe
about a year, year and a halfago, and I started following him
.

Scott (32:33):
I knew right away.
That's the thing people youknow, because I've seen people
explode and you know.
Sometimes you see him andyou're like, ah, I never saw it,
Sam, I saw it right away.
I did a show, like a randomlittle show, with him once and
everyone was tanking and he justgot up with the best jokes and
I knew, I knew right there.
Let's see, who else did I see?

(32:53):
You saw, I saw Schumer, I sawAziz, I saw Kristen Schall, like
all those people when you know,before they exploded and I was
like, oh, these people are.

Guest (33:01):
Malaney.
You could tell Malaney was aprodigy you know, when I started
the podcast, I was like one ofthe things I started realizing
because I had kind of lostcontact with all of you guys and
everybody and I didn't do anysocial media.
And then when I moved to NorthCarolina, I wanted to get in
touch with everybody and that'swhen I started rediscovering,
you know, all my Boston standupbuddies, yeah.
So I was like you guys arekilling it.
You and Joe List and Dan Levy,obviously, gary Dwayne Perkins

(33:27):
yeah, dwayne, yeah, it makessense, because none of these
guys yourself included whereanybody wasn't going to make it,
there was a group of us thatweren't going to make it and
there was a group of you thatwere.
So it's awesome to see that.
Who are some of your favoritecomics working?
Now?
You mentioned Sam.
Who else around you know that?
You see in New York that you'reloving?

Scott (33:48):
Let's.
I mean sort of came up withthem, but I'll always watch Mike
Beckie-Om.
I don't know if you know MikeBeckie-Om, he's just a machine.
Who else do I love to watch?
There's this kid I wouldn't saycoming up because he's
established, but he's just getsme all the time is Daniel
Simonson Just so funny.
I'll always watch AdrianAppalucci.

(34:08):
I used to get to see her moreso funny because, like once you
kind of get Pingenhold into yourtime slots and stuff, like
she's more of a late night comic.
I'm more of like a 730 PM comic.
So I don't get to see her asmuch as I like, which was fun.
For us to be able to betogether when we were opening
for Louis Joe List is like nextlevel.
Awesome, it's great, it's.

(34:29):
Yeah, he's really, you know,and I've known him since he was
like what it's crazy 19 yearsold, you know, and I'll still
watch him all the time.
Dina Hashem Okay, yep.
Just really funny.
And then some like people thatyou know that are like a little
more with specials and stuff,like I love watching Nate
Bargazzi, I love watchingJessica Kerson.
Judy Gold is an all timefavorite Her, you know.

(34:53):
Obviously, robert Kelly, likeit's gold how he said he doesn't
do a lot of sets that muchanymore in the city.
This is the last couple ofyears I think he's.
You know, obviously he'shosting on fire and stuff, but
like I always used to say, likethe comedy seller room was like
built for Robert Kelly, likenobody crushes harder than
Robert Kelly down in that comedyseller room.

(35:15):
I mean it's yeah, like wallsshaking.
And, of course, like you know,colin Quinn, david Tell always a
joy to get to see those guys.
Tom Cotter, rhode Island's ownTom Cotter, another Rhode Island
Hall of Famer Yep, and his wife, oh sorry.
Yeah, tolemas, amazing.
Yeah, of course, samarill I'mtrying to think of like some

(35:37):
comics that people might notknow of.
That I love there's such anexplosion of really great talent
.
It's fun to watch.
There's this kid, pat Bercher,b-u-r-t-s-c-h-e-r.
He's got this bit that hits sofunny about like time travel.
It's unbelievable.
So, yeah, these people, likeevery week I'll see somebody new
these days coming up.

(35:57):
That just kind of blows me away.
It's fun.

Guest (36:00):
At what point, when you were in New York and all of
these gods of stand-up comedywould come in, at what point did
you feel comfortable and belike, all right, I'm here, as
opposed to like, holy shit,that's Chris Rock, it just
walked in.

Scott (36:13):
Yeah, I guess you never do Really.
I mean, I've probably youmentioned Chris Rock.
Like I've probably introducedChris Rock dozens of times on
stage and never, you know,really feel comfortable talking
to him.
But I remember he was one ofthe first people I saw when I
got off stage, when I walkedinto, like the VIP hang after
opening for Louie and like weactually had a moment of like

(36:34):
hello, how are you?
You know, wow, yeah, so it wasfunny that you say that.
But I guess I mean there's beena few moments.
I mean, I guess I remember onenight when they would do these
auditions for like a festival atMontreal or something you know.
You'd have a lineup and you'dhave an opener and a closer that
weren't auditioning.
And I remember closing onenight where the last two comics

(36:54):
were Keith Robinson and RobertKelly.

Guest (36:56):
Wow.

Scott (36:58):
I forget which one was last last or which one was
second to last, but I had to goup after both of them and I was
like this is not going to gowell.
And it was fine and I was like,all right, I'm in New York City
now.
Yeah, I can follow those twoabsolute beasts, you know.
Yeah, stuff like that.
I remember when I first startedworking at the cellar back in
the day.
I remember like I don't know ifit was like a designed thing or

(37:20):
deliberate, but I remember likegoing up Friday night late show
after a tell and I remember themanager at the time, kim, was
like oh, this is like if you cando this.
This is how you know you're.
You're for real, you know,going up after the King Dave a
tellably, and so that wasprobably another moment.
You know, you know what wasenough.

(37:40):
Yeah, like to feel reallyconfident.
After there used to be Broadwayand New York comedy club were
booked by the same people.
It was the Al Martens clubs andit was set up for this like I
don't know two or three yearperiod where basically, you
would do the nine o'clock showat Broadway, go over to New York
comedy club, do a show, comeback for the 11 o'clock show at

(38:01):
Broadway.
It would pretty much be the samecomics and nobody would want to
go last because you'd have toeat the checks.
So the newest comic would golast and have to, like, go up
while they're figuring out thechecks and then be last.

Guest (38:13):
It's interrupt, which, by the way, for folks listening,
is the absolute worst thingpossible.
Yeah.

Scott (38:19):
It's the hardest thing is to go up while they're doing
the checks at the end of ashowcase show.

Guest (38:24):
Server's ass is in your face as they're bending over.

Scott (38:26):
It can be mayhem.

Guest (38:27):
Yeah.

Scott (38:28):
Yeah, it's distracting.
So you have to keep yourcomposure, wait till people are
refocused, get them refocusedand still be doing material at
that time and then have enoughin the tank to bring it on
because you're last.
And I don't remember what orderit was, although I think it was
Roguel, greg Roguel, absolutelegend, new York legend, mitch
Faitel, taylor and then GaffiganWow, yeah, and I remember it

(38:55):
was.
You would do three shows,friday and Saturday and I came
out of that unscathed.

Guest (39:01):
You're like I'm here.

Scott (39:02):
Yeah.
So I was like, okay, yeah, thatwas probably one of those
moments.
Yeah, that's pretty sure.

Guest (39:08):
That's amazing.
I'm so happy for you and allthe stuff that you've got going
on.
What do you guys think?

Scott (39:14):
is next Probably a nap Well deserved.
No, no, we're going to soccer.
I'm working right now onfiguring out which direction I
would put more efforts into, aswell as stand up put together
now at the point where I can getback to writing every day and

(39:34):
put together my next hour and doanother album in special.
Yeah, maybe I might resurrect apodcaster or something too.

Guest (39:42):
I loved Spiral Lone Up.
It was a great concept.
Great concept and you used yourmental health, knowledge and
background that you went toschool for.
Yeah, I mean, you used thatreally well.
It was fun.
Thanks, it's just so folks alsoknow you worked in a
psychiatric ward.

Scott (40:00):
I worked at well for Massachusetts people Westwood
Lodge, which was in WestwoodMass, and then Children's
Hospital in Boston.
Yeah, I worked both those onthe psych wards with the kids.
Yeah, that's when I started.
Yeah, no, I feel like you knowI did that because that's what I
went to school for.
Yeah, and then it just happenedto coincide with me figuring
out that I wanted to do this andfigured out a way to do this

(40:23):
during that time.
That's awesome.

Guest (40:26):
You've got two kids, a girl and a boy.
I have a girl.
She's seven.
She's out of control.
Yeah, how is yourthree-year-old daughter?

Scott (40:35):
Well, it's fun.
I was listening to one of yourpodcasts and you said how she's
just so into just being a girland that is the way it is here.
Our current upcoming dilemmawill be when the weather shifts
and she cannot wear summerdresses.
No, we are very nervous.
She only will wear like threeor four of them.

(40:56):
She likes her hair a certainway.
Yeah, she's wants to be aprincess.
She likes dresses.
The other day we said do youthink you can wear some sweaters
and stuff for the winter?
She goes I only like gowns,gowns, gowns.
But yeah, it's great.

(41:17):
We thought she was easy until wehad him.
I think she is needier becauseof him.
She still is having a very hardtime with him being here.
But my favorite thing is when Igo to Lula, I can only and she
goes do one thing at a timebecause I say it so much.

(41:38):
She has to finish it for mebecause she just wants so much.
He's just sitting there likewhenever you need me, I'll be
here.
I'm just happy to be here.
He's like totally chill.
He's got like this inflamed,like eczema, and he's just like
it's a little itchy.
We're like that needs medicalattention.
He's like don't worry about me.
I'm fine, I'm just so chill.

(41:59):
Hey, look, here's my toes.
He just wants her attention sobadly.
We're just like can you say hito him?
She's like hi, it just goes onwith it.
Once in a while she'll dosomething for him, and we're
over the moon about it becauseit's like we had him for you.
Yeah right.

Guest (42:18):
Daughter.
She's an only child.
There's no way we're having itanymore.
We're done.
We're shut off.
We're done with that stuff.
She's like I really would.
I'd love a little brother orsister.
And they say they do, but theyreally don't Like the first
couple of years, right.

Scott (42:33):
She just moved up in daycare to a new class and so,
with COVID and everything like,we've barely been in this place.
They let me go in with her todrop her off to her new class,
and I had him with me.
Her classmates gave him moreattention in eight minutes than
she has given him in nine months.
Did that set her off?
They're all over a minute.
It didn't phase her, no, shejust sat in the court.

(42:55):
I don't know what's going onover there.
She has a best bud, she has acouple of best buds and they'll
have a play date and they'llplay more with a little Ollie
than she will.
But this is my favorite littlething to do with her now,
because she gave him a nicknamejust out of nowhere.
But what's Oliver's nickname?
She goes apple juice.
So now we all have them.
I go.
What's your nickname?
She goes orange juice.
What's daddy's nickname?

(43:17):
Almond milk.
What's mommy's nickname?
Wine.

Guest (43:22):
That's what all mommy's names are.

Scott (43:27):
But yeah, no, I absolutely love it.
She's just she's, she'spersonality and a half.
She's really just funny.

Guest (43:32):
And then he's just this have you gotten any bad reports
yet from daycare?

Scott (43:36):
No, she's, so she's one.
I guess there's the daycareowner told us.
You know, there's like twokinds of kids the ones that like
act up at daycare or the onesthat act up at home.
She acts up at home.

Guest (43:47):
She waits for us.

Scott (43:48):
Yeah, she saves it all for mom and dad.
Yeah, she's, you know, the onlylike she got bit by someone.
That was the worst thing weheard, you know.
You know, the only thing is shewas emotional when he arrived.
They said she could tell.
They could tell she was havinga hard time because she was more
emotional, she was crying andstuff and she never had.

Guest (44:06):
My daughter went through a phase.
We got a little note.
We picked her up from schooland we got a note and it was,
like you know, finley did notuse her hands kindly today.
Oh God, all right, whathappened?
Apparently, she struck a boy onthe top of the head with a
plastic hammer because he closedher hands in the cash register.

Scott (44:25):
Yeah, and it was like a cool phrase to keep if she ever
becomes like a professionalfighter or anything you know.
Just like, get in there, honey,and do not use your hands,
kindly, remember.
That's why we're here.

Guest (44:36):
I'm a big mixed martial arts fan and I wanted to get her
into some sort of martial art,just first of all it's cute as
hell to see little kids and likethe little geese and stuff like
that yeah, but also also justto get her some confidence and
to make sure that she can alwaysdefend herself and she wants
nothing to do with it.
Nothing, nothing.
She's pretty sure she's goingto be the next Taylor Swift.

Scott (44:55):
Yeah, we literally had that conversation yesterday.
We had passed a.
Obviously they keep thosewindows open for those martial
arts places so you can see thecuteness.
And we were driving right by astorefront with some kids
practicing and I had thoughtabout that just recently.
I go to the library to writeduring the day and it's right

(45:18):
across from a school, and aschool got out and I saw some
older kids and I was like, ah,it just made me feel like, oh
yes, there's going to be a timewhere I'm not going to have her
with me all the time, I'm notgoing to be able to watch over
her.
I want her to take someself-defense or something, and
so we literally had thatconversation yesterday about
hoping to do that, which isinteresting because she's in two

(45:38):
things right now soccer andballet.
Oh nice, ballet, which she wantsto, soccer, which she doesn't.
But she does a great job there,she participates, she does, and
I swear there's it's.
You know it's two and threeyear olds.
So the practice starts withfive kids and it just ends with
her and this other kid everytime.
Wow, she's the only one thatstays.
And her favorite time is likeafter she scores I'll twirl her

(46:00):
around or water break, but shedoes the whole 50 minutes and
she has fun, even though she'slike not necessarily into it.
You know the soccer part.
She likes the other things.

Guest (46:11):
We took Fintu to soccer and her ultimate goal was to see
if she could get her fingerscaught in the other goal net.
She would just run to the otherone and stick her fingers in
and like, yeah, and we're likethat's not where the action is,
sweetie.

Scott (46:24):
It's fun, yeah, cause last night we tried a new
playground and there was a highschool soccer game going on and
she just didn't even look at it.
But at her regular playgroundthere's cheerleading practice
once a week or something whichshe does focus in on.
Yeah, so it's very interesting,you know.
She's like I want to do that,you know, and she's like barely
noticed the soccer.

Guest (46:43):
My daughter's in gymnastics.
She does it, it's a greatcartwheel, and she also listens
to these podcasts.
Yes, sweetie, you do anexcellent cartwheel.

Scott (46:49):
You do a great one.
I've heard, see, she's not oneof those kids like we'll go in
and it's like you can get onepresent or something at a store.
She's like I want that and likewe're out.
There's no, no, dilly-dally.
Yeah, that's amazing.
We went to the Disney storewhich we told her it was Disney
World.
We're like you can get onedress, and she just picked her

(47:11):
dress right away and that was itand we're like but do you like
you want to look at it or theother?
She's like no, I want that one.
So it's kind of helpful forHalloween and stuff like that.
It's amazing.
Yeah, she's just like that'swhat I want.
Yeah, yeah, that's amazing.

Guest (47:23):
I mean the only store we have at Wilmington.
We're still a little backwardsdown here, but the only store we
literally have is Walmart.
So every kid has every toy inthe three aisles that Walmart
has.
We have to go down every singleaisle every single time we go
there.
It's the same damn toys sheknows.

Scott (47:35):
Wow, that's amazing, cherish, that that's good,
because, yeah, her treat ofcoming with me to, like you know
, one place has Princess Pezzas,she just gets the one she wants
.
There's no Dilly Delling a bookat Target.
She gets the book, oh oh,cherish that, that's amazing.
That's absolutely amazing.
Yes, but she'll fight us onevery other thing.

Guest (47:56):
Every single thing.
My daughter is into TaylorSwift to the extreme.
We have to go to see the moviewhen it comes out.
She wants to be Taylor Swiftfor Halloween and you have to be
.

Scott (48:07):
Travis Kelsey.

Guest (48:08):
Which is super creepy.
But I thought about it.
Is it creepy?
I don't know.
Like I could be Travis Kelsey,like I could be Ted.
Darken up the hair.
And yeah is it weird, likegoing against your daughter's
boyfriend, probably but yeah,yeah, yeah.
Maybe I'll go with Jason Kelsey.
That won't be so creepy.

Scott (48:25):
Yeah the brother.
Yeah, go as the dad.
That'd actually be really funnyif you could find a picture of
him and dress up as the dad.
Mr Kelsey, yeah, yeah.

Guest (48:35):
But we also get up play dates.
Now we get, we'll walk into theroom and there's pillows under
the shirt and you know, I have ababy in my belly.
And you know, oh my gosh, Iwalked into a room to see if the
girls wanted to drink.
There have it a play date.
And one girl was laying downand my daughter was rubbing
something across her belly andshe said I'm giving her an
ultrasound.
Daddy, oh my gosh, what thehell are you watching?

(48:56):
How do you know about that?
Like, you get out of my house,you go, stand in the corner.

Scott (49:01):
Right now we're in sleepover land.
All her animals are tuckedunder a blanket, all her
stuffies.
They're all minis, by the way.
It's very creepy.
There's about 800 mini.
There's honestly 25 minis inthat room and like little
figurines are also under littlewashcloths having sleepover.
Yeah, mini, mini, mini, minimini Loves mini huh.

(49:22):
Yeah, yeah, it's on a lot ofclothes.
There were three minis in theHalloween period at her daycare
out of like 11 kids.

Guest (49:28):
Really.

Scott (49:29):
Yeah, of her class yeah.

Guest (49:33):
One year she went as for Halloween, she went to go as a
cowgirl riding a unicorn.
We're like what?

Scott (49:36):
Yeah, unicorns are huge.
She wants to be a unicornprincess this year.

Guest (49:39):
I don't want to burst your bubble, but I'm like
they're not real.
John, thank you so much fortaking the time to sit down with
me and go through and catch upon our old Boston comedy days.

Scott (49:51):
Yeah this was fun.

Guest (49:52):
And all the cool stuff you got going on.
Thanks, man, this has beengreat.
Everybody go out and checkHinged John Fish on YouTube is
fantastic, and if you're in NewYork City area, check him out.
What's all your socials?
My handle, the handles, that'swhat the kids call them.
What's all the handles?

Scott (50:08):
The handles.
There's JD Fish JD FISCH, as mygrandfather says, you can't
have the fish without the seedand then Johnny Fish.
Pretty much everything elseJohnny Fish, All right.

Guest (50:23):
Well, thanks again, john.
I really appreciate it.
This has been awesome.
Everybody go check out hisstuff.
Thank you.
Follow John.
He's hilarious and you're goingto absolutely love him.
Thanks again, man.
Thank you, and I am eating it.
These people hate me, they wantnothing to do with me, so I'm
bombing up.
And this woman said somethingand I was like that's it.
And I just went into the crowdwork and I said something and

(50:43):
the place erupted and I was likeyeah, and I was like, oh, mom,
mom, you've got to go, you'vegot to go now.
Oh, jesus Christ.

Scott (50:53):
Oh my God, start the car.